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More Problems for Diebold/Electronic Voting

Posted by on December 15, 2005 at 09:36 AM

The Miami Herald:

A political operative with hacking skills could alter the results of any election on Diebold-made voting machines -- and possibly other new voting systems in Florida -- according to the state capital's election supervisor, who said Diebold software has failed repeated tests.

Ion Sancho, Leon County's election chief, said tests by two computer experts, completed this week, showed that an insider could surreptitiously change vote results and the number of ballots cast on Diebold's optical-scan machines.

After receiving county commission approval Tuesday, Sancho scrapped Diebold's system for one made by Elections Systems and Software, the same provider used by Miami-Dade and Broward counties. The difference between the systems: Sancho's machines use a fill-in-the-blank paper ballot that allows for after-the-fact manual recounts, while Broward and Miami-Dade use ATM-like touchscreens that leave no paper trail.

"That's kind of scary. If there's no paper trail, you have to rely solely on electronic results. And now we know that they can be manipulated under the right conditions, without a person even leaving a fingerprint," said Sancho, who once headed the state's elections supervisors association. [...]

Sancho said he tried to discuss the problems with Diebold, but met with resistance. On Monday, he did one final test with Hursti at the Leon County supervisor's office, Hursti hacked the memory card to spit out seven "yes" votes on an issue and one "no" vote.

Then, six "no" votes and two "yes" votes were cast into the machine the same way voters would. Those results didn't show up in the final tally -- just the ones hacked into the card.

Officials for ES&S, which makes the systems used in Miami-Dade and Broward counties, couldn't be reached for comment Wednesday.

Sancho says he has yet to conduct tests on the ES&S machines, but would do so next. With all the serious and reasonable questions about the security of electronic voting machines, why we wouldn't have mandatory paper trails for potential recounts is absolutely beyond me. I'm sure we can expect more from this story in the coming weeks as it appear to justify many of the concerns laid out by the Government Accountability Office (.pdf) earlier this year.

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"Sancho said he tried to discuss the problems with Diebold, but met with resistance. On Monday, he did one final test with Hursti at the Leon County supervisor's office, Hursti hacked the memory card to spit out seven "yes" votes on an issue and one "no" vote.

Then, six "no" votes and two "yes" votes were cast into the machine the same way voters would. Those results didn't show up in the final tally -- just the ones hacked into the card.

Officials for ES&S, which makes the systems used in Miami-Dade and Broward counties, couldn't be reached for comment Wednesday.

Finnish security expert Harri Hursti, together with Black Box Voting, demonstrated that Diebold made misrepresentations to Secretaries of State across the nation when Diebold claimed votes could not be changed on the “memory card” (the credit-card-sized ballot box used by computerized voting machines


http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_black_bo_051214_black_box_voting_rep.htm

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PamB on December 15, 2005 at 10:57 AM

This is disgusting. The fact that this doesn't make the MSM is even more revolting

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KyleRaccio on December 15, 2005 at 11:00 AM

This has been one of my biggest concerns from the beginning of the electronic voting. I do not believe this should be a partisan issue, but an American issue. The very integrity of our democracy and balloting is at stake.

There have always been charges, and some legitimate, of improprieties at the ballot box. Those have been addressed in different ways at different times. This is a far more serious threat however, as it can affect most of the country and not just an isolated area.

There should be something enacted by congress that would require a paper ballot to be produced in every machine used. There is a vulnerablity in these machines for manipulation from an extremist in either party, or from no party.

In Georgia, we now have advance voting (besides absentee ballots) that allows you to vote for any reason during the week before an election. I voted on this paper ballot during the last election because I wanted to see that I did not vote for Bush, and that I DID vote for Kerry. There are other concerns for me in the Georgia votes and things that are being attempted here. That is for another time though.

This advance voting is not enough. We must change these electronic machines to produce a paper ballot, or change to a system that does.

How can we lecture anyone in the world about their elections, when ours are so vulnerable.

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GAmtn on December 15, 2005 at 11:33 AM

Time to go back to paper ballots and ink on the fingers of those who have already voted.

These companies are clearly manufacturing inferior machines...on purpose. The typical fraud and money laundering charges could be issued against any company who gave money to GOP candidates. It's standard procedure. DeLay wrote the rules.

Let's see if 60 Minutes and Dateline have enough balls to investigate these voting machine companies. Seems odd that after all the controversy in last year's election that NO ONE in the MSM did a story on how easy these things are to hack. What do the media outlets have to lose? The Pentagon probably has their personnel under scrutiny under the Patriot Act as suspected terrorists anyway.

As soon as it came out that that guy at Diebolt wrote in a letter where he said that he "would deliever" for the President, the whole world knew how crooked our elections have become.

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SandyH on December 15, 2005 at 12:02 PM

We wouldnt need electronic voting if dumbasses were LITERATE! lazy retards that dont know HOW to vote shouldnt

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TruthMonger on December 15, 2005 at 07:50 PM

We wouldnt need electronic voting if dumbasses were LITERATE! lazy retards that dont know HOW to vote shouldnt

Posted by TruthMonger on December 15, 2005 at 07:50 PM

We have electronic voting due to ADA standards. Literacy has nothing to do with it. Oh, and I'm not certain, but I bet lobbyist had something to do with it too.


I want to know why those that voted on DRE before, never complained until it was made a federal mandate?

HAVA more fun all the time!

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Bleujae on December 16, 2005 at 09:26 AM

I sure hope no one from the Democratic Party are trying to take any credit for STOPPING electronic voting in Volusia!!!!!

I was there, and I don't even live in Volusia! We went to, three hearings, and spoke, and were the only ones to picket, and got others involved.
There sure weren't any Democrats!!!

Thank Susan Pinchoin, Common Cause, and Florida Fair Elections; we did all the hard work! As usual when there's hard work to be done the Florida Democrats are Missing in Action! All their good for is going to parties at our expense!

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jjgudat on December 18, 2005 at 02:08 PM


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