Send that pic to Leno! I'd love to see him showcase that one!

Maybe Ney can solicit campaign contributions from his fellow prisoners?

The longer this guy remains in the race, the worse it looks for all Republicans in Ohio. Once he's indicted, what are they going to say?

Tim, send this photo to Jay Leno for his Headlines segment.

Ney feels so "threatened" by Zack Space that he had to announce his re-election bid in Zack's Hometown!

As G-d as my witness, I can honestly say that Zack is THE CANDIDATE to bring back integrity, honor, & dignity to the 18th Congressional District of Ohio! I'm counting down the days until I can call him Congressman!

Another part of the Republican Party of Corruption is this shining example:

"Former official from N.C. pleads guilty on Iraq contractsTONI LOCYAssociated PressWASHINGTON - A former U.S. occupation official in Iraq pleaded guilty Thursday to conspiring to steal more than $2 million and rigging bids on $8.6 million in reconstruction contracts.
Robert J. Stein, 50, of Fayetteville, N.C., admitted that he and his coconspirators smuggled millions of dollars out of Iraq into the United States aboard commercial airliners and laundered cash through multiple bank accounts in Switzerland, Amsterdam and Romania.
Stein was a Defense Department employee who served as a contract official for the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq, controlling more than $82 million in funds slated for rebuilding the Middle Eastern country."

Full article here:
http://tinyurl.com/c4po6

You could not make this up if you wanted to. I wonder how many of the Regressives will get the point?

Ha Ha! I love it.It's so fitting.

I DO NOT TRUST the DNC. It seems that the DNC is doing nothing to counter the myriad of lies and spin that Bush rolled off in his "State of the Union" address. All that the DNC seems to say is "give us money". There is no intelligent articulation of truth that I can discern on this website. Remember when Bush said "this Crusade", or "as long as I'm the Dictator"? I am wondering if Howard Dean (once such a forceful speaker who told how the Bush Administration is "defunding" the nation's infrastructure) has been the recipient of a frontal labotomy? It almost seems like the DNC is covertly on the influenc/money-train with the goose-stepping Republican "majority". We have no one providing courageous representation of any kind in DC, except perhaps for John Conyers and Jack Murtha.

How does one write to Howard Dean? Is he alive? Does he have an e-mail address? Does he ever personally interact with this blog? I doubt it. I see no reason to trust the DNC, and would not volunteer one dime to this pathetic "leadership" of a willfully self-emasculated and demoralized Democratic Party..

Even getting into this blog is a tedious task that seems intended to muffle any dissent within this pathetic and useless organization.

The DNC is starting to smell. Harry Reid is a gutless wiener, and that clown who gave the reply to Bush's doublespeak speech on Tuesday night does not even deserve to have his name mentioned.

So if your brain is alive, go to conyersblog.us for some real discussion and exposure to Truth. This place is for losers.

So you would give up on a party that gave John Conyers a chance to have a voice? Remember what this counttry was like before the civil rights movement? We are the party that embraced it and made it law. And we are the only thing stopping the Republicans from killing it.

SandyH -

The "We're the only alternative to Republicans" argument is getting more and more hollow by the week.

Where were the elected members of our party when they had a chance to make a stand against a USSC nominee who will clearly be a consistent champion for the powerful over the weak, corporations over workers, rich over poor, government over individuals? 19 of them, evidently, were hiding under their desks.

Sorry - we've got to come up with something better than "We're not them." There are millions of voters out there who are not buying that argument anymore, and the Democratic Party as a whole is doing very little to reverse the trend.

Funny! Click my link - dare you.

The funny part is that people actually believe that crao in that book. franken had everything FACT CHECKED, and found that most if not all of the accusations were either made up from whole cloth, or carefully edited to paint a certain slant.

Go try to sell real eatate, or whatever it is you pretend to do.

If you want some real FACT BASED reading, try going to Conyers site, or Media Matters, or ANYTHING but the worm brained based society.

Results for "Do As I Say (Not As I Do) from MEDIA MATTERS

Facts, BAY-BEE!!!!

That is the best! Plus you gotta love protests that feature bagpipes...just gotta love it!

STOCK MARKET FORECASTS GLOBAL ECONOMIC COLLAPSE DUE TO U.S. DOLLAR DEMISE

"Experts of Standard & Poor's forecast a global economic collapse. The collapse will be caused with the demise of the U.S. Dollar Rate against the European Currency [Euro Rate] by more than 30%. The European Central Bank has expressed its concerns with the forecast from Standard & Poor's. European financial specialists say that the demise of the American currency will endanger the global economy on the whole."

--INN World Report - Today's Headlines - Feb. 2, 2006 - Reported by Mizan Kirby Nunes
--Dish Satellite Channel 9415, Free Speech TV
(FSTV)

Anyone follow? Or am I the only doing the honky tonk badonkadonk in here?

gimme gimme gimme the honkey tonk bluz

Anyone watching the pre-game for the Super Bowl yet? I'm pretty sure it's started already.

How ya doin Fade? Things could be better here I suppose.

Well, HERE's where y'all are.

The UP needs some better over the air radio stations. I'm sick of classic rock, don't listen to a whole lot of country or pop and that's what the airwaves are dominated with up here. I wish this computer had a soundcard. I need some modern rock.. something I can schedule my head for an appointment with the nearest wall with.

HOWDY, DeLL!!

Posted by DPD on February 5, 2006 at 12:54 AM

We didn't ditch ya DPD, I promise.

Posted by DPD on February 5, 2006 at 12:56 AM

Hey der!! How is it goin?

good one, dell

they do milk it for all it's worth, don't they?

they've got the stones at halftime, with little danger of a bared breast...doubt if they play the neocon song, though it would be cool

do you enjoy the commercials?

I-Pod or a cheap equivelent, dude. Some of those knock offs are going for about $40. I STILL have a Walk-Man that uses tapes. I have cassettes from College that CAN'T be replaced. It was the old "It was there, and so was I, so I taped it" stuff.

Posted by fade2bluz on February 5, 2006 at 12:59 AM

To be honest, I haven't even watched the full game since the 1997 Packer/Patriot game. The commercials I do catch are usually funny, like the Budweiser horse farting, I dig juvenile humor.

Posted by DPD on February 5, 2006 at 01:00 AM

I've got the ol' CD Walkman that I've had since high school. Other then that, I've got nothing portable for music.. although I am seriously debating getting XM satellite radio for AAR, Dodger games and good music.

I've got 7 hours left at this place I call "work." I am already feeling tired... it's gonna be a looooooong night.

DeLL, speaking of the Dodgers, I was reading your Blog a while back, and you misspelled Dodgers. I forgot to tell you earlier, but it was in a Headline. (Around the time you were having a "discussion" with a relative about Pug stuff, which may be all the time.)

Guard that HOLE!! Your Nation depends on you, and the Profits it brings.

fade, are you still listening to DST? Joni Mitchell & Tom Scott is on.

COOL, an old Lambert, Hendricks & Ross tune.

Posted by DPD on February 5, 2006 at 01:07 AM

It was an inside joke.. my dad and I used to go to a few games when I lived out there and usually had the same seats. The Latino dude next to us, I think he was a season ticket holder always yelled, "Go Doyers!!" Before you know it, my dad and I would yell "Go Doyers!!" after we got to know the guy and he would tease us about our "Canadian" accent. Good politically incorrect times, good times.

Posted by DPD on February 5, 2006 at 01:08 AM

It's a mad, mad world. I haven't seen a car since the dude I relieved left, other then the snow plow. More good times I say, more good times.

"and you know two heads are better than one"...

i love this station!

can't listen while i'm at work, but it's on all weekend...

Oh great... "In the Air Tonight" by Phil Collins just started. It's the only song in the world that has the power to suddenly bring me back in time to a place I don't enjoy being at. Thank G-d for the tuning switch.

oh, Dell...you sound excessively bummed to be at work...sorry

wish i could be more entertaining, but then if i was...i wouldn't be sitting at my computer singing with joni mitchell, now, would i?

Dell, while you were listening to Phil Collins (ugh) we were hearing Jethro Tull's "Inside" and the Kinks. Motown is on now.

Posted by fade2bluz on February 5, 2006 at 01:16 AM

It's been one of them days. I don't have "one of them days" very often, but today is just that. I am quite bummed to be at work. I got too much on my mind right now to be stuck at this craphole in a freakin' blizzard on a Saturday night. I should be at home.

So, our Czar of the Fatherland for Security (Skullitor Chertoff) was just in Chicago to spread some Bushco crapola about how safe he's making us, and W is a great guy, and Daley decided "F that crap", and so he is going to Isreal to get some REAL advice.

More outsourcing from Bushco.

oh, poor baby, i wish you were at home, too....

I wish you BOTH were at MY home so we can start on some of these Jello shots I made for tomorrow.

:)

Posted by DPD on February 5, 2006 at 01:25 AM

LOL.. I don't get this bunch of twits know as the GOP, the Bush Crime Family, the Turd Reich.. (just made the last one up) I don't know I'm sure someone else has said that but hey, I thought it was funny, lol. Boy, sorry I'm so grumpy tonight guys.

Ya know....St. Louist o Chgo....Ishpeming to Chgo...

SAME DISTANCE. LEAVE NOW!!!!

Posted by DPD on February 5, 2006 at 01:28 AM

Now my friend that is something that could be good. I find it hard to pass up a good Jell-o Shot, very hard. Have fun with those!

Posted by DPD on February 5, 2006 at 01:30 AM

I cannot abandon my post. I mean after all my first general order is: I will guard everything within the limits of my post and quit my post only when properly relieved; or something to that effect.

jello shots?

1. Czar of the Fatherland for Security (Skullitor Chertoff)

2. Turd Reich

LMAO, and Dell...no need to apologize, it's a beeotch that you have to work at midnight on Saturday night. Whatever mood you're in is kewl...

Jello shots in the correct team colors. Blue & Green / v.s. Yellow & DARK Purple (couldn't find licorice Jell-o, and WHY is that? I LOVE black licorice)

Tons of Guacamole, chicken, chili (which goes in the crock pot at 8 ) ham wraps, and STUFF!!!!

Posted by DPD on February 5, 2006 at 01:38 AM

Shush, I'm gonna spend my SB Sunday sleeping I think. I got invited to a friends house, so me and the fam damnily might go somewhere anyway. I don't think the spread is going to be that nice though. I think we'll have generic ruffles, MadDog 20/20 and Tequila Rose.

hahahahah

licorice jello? they've overlooked a real winner, dpd...

what the heck is a jello shot?

and the food sounds wonderful

Jell-o shots are shots made with Jell-o and vodka (Smirnoff for me, not the expensive stuff). Pour the mixture into a 2 ounce paper souffle cup, and chill until it's a viscuous mass. (DO NOT ADD FRUIT)

They are like jell-o with a buzz. Think Gummy Bears with a kick.

Buzz-ola with a vitamin C bonus.

A jello shot is jello made with one or more of a variety of liqours, silly. I'm partial to Captian Morgan in my jello.

Posted by DPD on February 5, 2006 at 01:48 AM

At least it isn't my old vodka, Five O Clock. I can't drink vodka anymore, one too many pukers.

I can't drink vodka anymore, one too many pukers.

Posted by DeLLBerto on February 5, 2006 at 01:50 AM

Wow, that's a major drink group. My first drinking experience was with sloe gin...and it was a puker.

fortunately, not drinking that sh*t twice is no big loss...but vodka...that's a staple

OPne time I tried to use Tanqueray, and it just wouldn't set up. The Captain is good too, but the coconut and spice flavor would be better suited for the Jell-o if maybe Tampa or Cleveland were playing. Realize, if you will, I was constrained by the teams colors.

If Green Bay or the Bears were in, it would be cheap beer flavored plain Gelatin.

so jello shots are not something you drink, they're gummy?

how did i let myself become so frumpy? thank you, both, for enlightening me...maybe one day i'll be able to play with the cool kids, again.

Posted by DPD on February 5, 2006 at 01:56 AM

Now that's the spirit. Us Packer Backers wouldn't have it any other way. Cheap beer, cheap gelatin... yeah. For some Vodka is a staple. I can drink Vodka and Red Bull though. I don't know why, but it goes down good.

i wish i was going to this party..."constrained by the team colors" LMAO

WTF is 5 O'Clock vodka? Varnish remover?

The first time I had tequila was on my 25th birthday, and I was with my friends named Mark, and Mark. It made it really easy to make a fool of myself.

"Hey, Mark..." and someone always said "Hey, What?"

tequila, another staple

now, it's a margarita but in my wilder, younger years it was shots...my 21st birthday was a bit blurry as a result--well that, among a number of things

Wasso funny, fade? Yellow is LEMON. Green is LIME, Blue is Blueberry, and Black is ...REALLY undiluted GRAPE.

I DEMAND licorice Jell-O. I own stock in that Company!

Yeah pretty much varnish remover. It sucks bad. Maybe that's why I don't drink it anymore, never had anything better.

I spent my 21st birthday in the field play Army. Needless to say I was dry and sober :(

licorice flavored jello might taste good (might...), but it would have a distressing color...maybe...

then again, it might be a perfectly wonderful idea, so suggest it to the company

pretty sure the last time i had jello, gravity was not yet the enemy

I meant playing Army... jeesh.

oh yeah, emerson lake and palmer

that was a good concert...

Dell,

what made you decide to join the army? if you don't mind my askin'

I NEVER liked Jell-O (it moved by itself in the cafeteria line, like it was alive) until someone invented the Jell-O shot. Now thousands of middle aged women have nice nails and loose morals.

JUST KIDDING, their nails are about the same.

HAHAHA

ELP!!!

well, my nails could use a little help

Jell-O Shots Recipes

Now, don't forget the Fundies at your Party. Jesus Juice is wine in a Diet Pepsi can.

Posted by fade2bluz on February 5, 2006 at 02:18 AM

I actually had 9 years in the Army Guard. It's odd though, outta those 9 years, 3 and half were active duty. I actually joined because I wanted to kill a summer getting some direction and discipline in my life. I needed to know, What next and Basic Combat Training provided that oppurtunity. I also joined because of the Patriotic, do something for the nation thing... but I did join in 1996 so it wasn't because of 9-11

Posted by DPD on February 5, 2006 at 02:28 AM

My favorite fundie is Marilyn Manson.

thanx, dpd...

this will be a fun treat, and the flavors look interesting. i'll let ya know...

btw, if you add food coloring to your jello, you can make black. green and yellow should do it.

it might be unpleasant looking at very gray teeth, however, so--forget i said that...

10 Years After.

WHAT HAPPENED to pop music that there were ACTUALLY PROTEST SONGS on the radio, and now all we get is shit about bling, and material goods?

"I'd Love To Change The World"

Alvin Lee was a kick ass gee-tar player too.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1156497,00.html

Anyone else see this silly shit? One more SOTU "supsect".

I still like the TASTE of black licorise. (There's always Sambucca, or Anisette).

yeah, Dell...i saw that earlier. they want to pretend like they're actually doing something besides stealing money from the taxpayers

oh, i mean fighting the "war on terror"

that's so true, DPD...the protest music was so powerful, back then. there are some artists doing good things today, but they don't get much air play...that was an amazing time for art, in any medium

this radio station is so good, i don't ever want to shut it down and hit the sack...

I saw that, DeLL. There was a Sikh (Indian Religion) who was murdered because he had a turban on for a Religious Rite, just after this mania was started by the Nazis in the White House.

They will pick off ANY group in order to keep the fear-mongering on the front burner.

Right before the '06 elections, and DEFINITELY before the'08 elections Bushco WILL pull another orchestrated attack in order to keep the fear factor running on all 8 cylinders.

I'm just wondering what they have planned for Detroit for tomorrow, seeing as Detroit is Black, Depressed (XIV.I % unemployment) and basically the NOLA of the Rust Belt.

If Bushco can get ahold of THAT land, right on the Canadian Border, Halliburton will make BILLIONS!!

These pricks consider American Citizens just "Collateral Damage" if they have a history of voting for the Democrats.

Green Day's American Idiot album is fantastic. System of a Down's has some protest music as well.

Crap I can't type tonight I meant system of a down.

Dell, ARE YOU sure YOU CAN'T LINK TO wdst.com?

The computer has no freakin' soundcard, so I'm screwed.

5 more hours.... tick tock tick tock.

Dell, that's true. American Idiot is fine. Larry McMurtry is also amazing.

we're old farts, though, so just humor us, please...it's one of the best coping tools we have left in these days of darkness

the suggestion that there might be a tragedy tomorrow has been floating around all day today...let's hope not

wouldn't put it past these evil monstors, though...not at all...they've demonstrated that they are all about p.r. and greed...and will stop at nothing

oh, carlos

this is my favorite

will i ever sleep?

Posted by fade2bluz on February 5, 2006 at 02:54 AM

I dubbed Fri. Oh Fck Day, considering Iran was going in front of the UN, then they did it today so I don't know anymore. I hope Oh Fck Day doesn't happen that's for sure.

you know they need fear to maintain their control over the sheeple

when i think of scooter's trial being put off until 2007, i start clenching up...that is such crap...oh, my lawyer is busy...

yeah, right...these guys think they have it all sewed up..

it doesn't seem to matter how much damning evidence turns up, they're scoot free

I went to College in Michigan during Ray-Gun-Omics, and watched ENTIRE towns die within a year. If you haven't seen "Roger & Me" RENT IT or BUY it before the Nazis take it out of circulation.

I lived there during that period. Today I found a BUNCH of web-sites from people who live there, some are architects, some are Sociologists...

You get the idea. Most of the posts on TWENTY-ONE LINKED SITES are that Detroit "GAVE UP", and that they are tearing down BEAUTIFUL buildings at taxpayer expense, and exposing the few people left to asbestos, just to build a parking lot for a football game.

I'll try to find the main link page. They are Urban Explrers, and take pictures of the rape of what once was a beautiful City.

When I was there in the late '70's - early '80's it was kinda bedraggled, but when I went back 2 years ago it seemed like they were actually trying.

I guess not, anymore.

that's so sad...we're nothing more than ants to them...

i need to buy Roger and Me, that's for sure...i will tomorrow...

my dad was a labor leader, and i'm a labor market analyst...can't believe i haven't seen it, yet.

I think it's the BEST Moore film, probably because I worked at a soup kitchen when I was in College, and saw entire families walk from their CAR in which they were living, just to get a warm meal and a smile.

that is so sad...and it was just the beginning...it's still happening.

this last month was a very bad one for mass layoffs...it gives me the chills...very bad, indeed

Detroit closed the ZOO on Belle Isle 2 years ago, and last year they closed the Aquarium. Now there's no reason for the few LOCAL Citizens to go there, but it will bring BIG BUCKS as a yacht club with condos.

They can't afford a $700,000 subsidy to keep the Aquarium open, but the Mayor lives in a City owned Mansion, and has 21 FULL TIME body guards, and a fleet of Escalades, whch his family uses?

And the City is SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS in the RED?

NUTS!!

NUTS!!

Posted by DPD on February 5, 2006 at 03:22 AM

it absolutely is, DPD...and so wrong

wish i could keep my eyes open a little longer

goodnight you two...hope the time passes quickly for you, {{Brian}} peaceful rest, {{Patrick}}

Good night fade... I got up having to do work.. sorry bout the late response!!

Here's the main page I found about those Urban Excavators. "International Metropolis" is also a good one, and has a direct link. This guy went into the MOTOWN headquarters just before they tore it down and found TREASURES!! like Marvin Gaye's insurance policy, actual MOTOWN book-keeping records etc.

Look at what they did to that City, just to put on a "face" for a STOOPID BOWL.

Make Sure You Read The Blogs, And Use The Links

I'm almost ready to hit it, too. I have to make the Chili for the crock pot by 8-ish.

G'Nite, {{fade}}

Well, DeLL, it's just you and me, and I ain't too sure 'bout me.

I can't blame ya DPD.. work called again. I cleaned up our little guard shack, the boss is relieving me in the morning so I might as well kiss ass! ;)

I'm still around.

I'm ALWAYS lurking. No, really, I took my night heart meds, and will go through the dizzies, and then the sleepies soon.

I got the cat all settled down in her personal Lazy-Boy, so it's all good.

I give me about 20 minutes.

Sorry to hear about the heart medicine... I kind of know the feeling lately.. although no medicine yet, I've got something wrong that needs to be checked out in a hurry.

Then DO IT.

I was complaining for several years, and the idiot doctors said it was just "stress" and kept prescribing Valium (because they got a kickback from the Drug Companies).

Years later, after 4 "minor" heart attacks, I was FORCED to go to a Company Christmas Party. I felt like shit, and left early.

For 3 days I still felt like crap, so I went to a Hospital on Christmas Eve. The Doctors said "Good news, No heart attack, but just to be safe we sent your charts to a Cardiologist"

1 hour later, the Cardiologist is slapping these 2 clowns with my charts, and actually YELLING at them.

I was in surgery within the hour.

Because I "HAD" my "heart attack" in a resaurant at the Christmas Party, I "Wasn't" at "work" and so the Insurance won't pay a cent of the 120 grand cost.

And NOW, I can't go back to work, because I'll screw up their group Policy, and NO ONE will hire me because of my "pre-existing condition".

So, F 'em.

Posted by DPD on February 5, 2006 at 04:27 AM

Jayzuss Chrimmintys. Is that legal? I mean to not hire you? That can't be legal can it?

I'm scheduling an appointment Monday with an internal Dr. I'm only 26, I thought too young but hey, if it is what all the symptoms say it is, it's better to get it taken care of now.

Would YOU hire a 52 year old guy who'll be dead in 3 years?

My first heart attack was at 36

Posted by DPD on February 5, 2006 at 04:35 AM

Honestly, if I were hiring I probably would.. I mean if you did good during the dreaded hiring process. 36? That's insane. Very insane.

And I wasn't a coke freak, as opposed to Der Fuhrer.

Bum ticker since I was a whelp.

Posted by DPD on February 5, 2006 at 04:41 AM

What the heck is a whelp?

a young'n of the wolf & fox persuasion.

means the middle of the litter, as opposed to the runt.

Posted by DPD on February 5, 2006 at 04:41 AM

I shoulda known that... I just always called em puppies. I'm pretty scared to see a doctor right now. I fear the diagnosis big time, ya know?

WHELP

I mean I hope I'm kinda being a hyperchondriac or whatever but I just don't know.

GO, GO, GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One missed opportunity will literally screw you AND YOUR FAMILY for the rest of YOUR and THEIR lives.

These Insurance Companies don't make their money by paying OUT money.

Also, I wonder if ANYONE knows that Insurance Companies are TAX FREE because ALL of their holdings (including their lavish offices and their Private Jets) are considered Corporate Assets, and are therefore "Investments" into the Policy Holders' Trusts"?

Those BASTARDS DO NOT PAY TAXES!!

They are no better than those phony Churches and Charities.

They take your money, but meander around when it's time to pay it out, and if YOU make a mistake on one of THEIR forms, it's YOUR fault.

It's a shell game.

Posted by DPD on February 5, 2006 at 05:03 AM

Lucky for me I haven't any insurance.. well not so lucky really. I can't believe those bastards don't pay taxes. That's a scary thought in a sense. The least they could do is pay ya when they need to. That HSA thing Bush wants to do, what a sham... bankers get a hold of that money, I think that's why he's so excited to do this. I hope he doesn't. Anyways, I don't exactly have money to save any damn way.

Okey Dokey

The Dizzies are starting. Time for the Sleepies.

Take care DeLL, Make an appointment with a GOOD doctor SOON!!!!!!

Do the whole work-up.

G'Nite, Little Bro.

Good night sir... damn right I have to make an appointment... I like living! :)

good morning. here we are. this is some thoughts i had posted at the big fat thread:

morning. i read at reuters that chavez has now said bush is worse than hitler...so he has seen rumsfelds insult and raised him...and another consulate has been burned (in lebanon i believe) so the concept of tolerance that is so important to international relations is out the window, and who knows what saber rattling the ghouls from the white house and congress will rant on about on the talking head shows this morning...now the whole world is beginning to look like "lord of the flies" and we can only hope that the grownups arrive soon and that this time they are not the friggin british!

a buddy of mine said last night " you know bush was this rich little asshole who wandered around yale not reading shit and mouthing all this upper class crap about how fdr was a commie and so on and then whoops! the little pig becomes president and here he is a totally ignorant mean spirited douchebag firing up hostilities all around the world and beating down his own people" or words to that effect. and so now we get this very clear assessment of the next budget and where it is taking us:

2007 Budget Favors Defense
Medicare Takes Biggest Hit in $2.7 Trillion Plan

By Amy Goldstein
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, February 5, 2006; Page A01

President Bush plans to propose a $2.7 trillion budget tomorrow that would shrink most parts of the government unrelated to the nation's security while slowing spending on Medicare by $36 billion during the next five years, according to White House documents.

The spending plan Bush is to recommend to Congress will call for the elimination or reduction of 141 programs -- for a savings of $14.5 billion -- across a broad swath of federal agencies, according to administration and congressional officials who have had access to budget documents in advance. Wide-ranging as they are, those cuts pale in comparison with the White House's attempt to carve money from Medicare -- the first tangible result from a vow the president made in his State of the Union address last week to constrain the massive entitlement programs for the elderly and the poor.

Overall, the budget for the 2007 fiscal year would further reshape the government in the way the administration has been striving to during the past half-decade: building up military capacity and defenses against terrorist threats on U.S. soil, while restraining expenditures on many domestic areas, from education programs to train service.

sack of shit

and so the vision of bush/cheney/rice/rummy is of the united states as a small minded, hostile, militaristic country with its people seperated into two groups...the rich and the fucked over and no greater mission or effort to make the world a better place for future generations but rather just a lunatic type gestalt, hold up in the basement waiting for death to come....i guess the tim robbins character in the remake of war of the worlds is a good metaphor for bush's vision of our future.

Morning, Gregg. What's up with your computer?

Kos Sunday talk show lineup:

This Week: Constitutional expert, Gen. Michael Hayden drops by to distort the 4th Amendment. That is, when he's not claming up. Then Gooper Robot, Ken Mehlman (all together now, "Ken Mehlman.....Eeeewwwwwww!!). Afterwards, Goopers Cookie Roberts and George Will bash Sam Donaldson.

CNN: Barbara Boxer (you go girl !) vs Suck-ass, Duncan Hunter. In the Jimmy the Greek segment, Hamid Karzai, Prince Turki Al-Faisal, and Landslide Iyad Allawi drop in and reveal their Super Bowl picks. Afterwards, a confused Wolf interviews Seattle's Mayor Greg Nickels and Pittsburg's Mayor Bob O'Connor on Hamas, PNAC, and record oil profits.

Air America's Politically Direct: They're off, but we found some smoking hot, best of segments: Governor Dean and future U.S. President, Barack Obama. [patients, it takes a minute for their links to ignite]

60 Minutes: They're taking the week off also, but we cooked up some on-line "best of:" President Bill Clinton and Derek Jeter.

Meet the Press: Butt-Man, John Boehner lights up some smokes as he hands out the weekly pad ("quid pro quo" ca$h, that is)!

The Wiregate Hearings begin this week, which compels committee Chairman, "Single-Bullet Theory" Spector, to drop by and explain why he's no Sam Ervin. Afterwards, Ron Brownstein and John Harwood play a game of "Truth or Dare" - DARE! I Dare you to mention the new Downing Street Memo!

Face the Nation: Pat Leahy clobbers the morally duplicitous, Jeff Sessions. Time Mag's Karen Tumulty and Gooper propagandist, Baghdad Brooks fill out the panel.

The Bottom of the Barrel: Hayden and Boehner visit the choir and reprise their song and dance. Boy, Jesus Christ (D-Nazareth) would have his hands full with those sinners.

Chavez warns U.S. over refineries if cuts ties

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez warned on Saturday he could shut his government's U.S.-based refineries and sell oil to nations other than the United States if Washington decided to cut diplomatic ties, as relations between the two countries continue to worsen.
...
"If the U.S. government wants to break relations, then they have to take that decision over there, over there. I could easily order the refineries we have over there closed," Chavez told a large crowd of supporters.

"We'll see how high oil prices go, we'll see how much a gallon of gas will cost. I could easily sell the oil we sell to the United States to other countries," he said. "We don't want to get to that extreme, we want them to leave us in peace."

This, coupled with Iran's threat to take their oil off of the market? And, the fact that we are producing less oil out of Iraq since before the war? We are screwed.

2/3/06-Air Force Officer MIA from Vietnam War is Identified

The Department of Defense POW/Missing Personnel Office (DPMO) announced today that the remains of a U.S. serviceman, missing in action from the Vietnam War, have been identified and will be returned to his family for burial with full military honors.

He is Col. Eugene D. Hamilton of Opelika, Ala. Final arrangements for his funeral have not been set.

On Jan. 31, 1966, Hamilton was flying an armed reconnaissance mission over North Vietnam when his F-105D ‘Thunderchief’ was hit by enemy ground fire over Ha Tinh province. His mission was part of a larger operation, known as Operation Rolling Thunder, which attacked air defense systems and the flow of supplies along the Ho Chi Minh Trail.

Airborne searches for his crash site that day were unsuccessful. A radio broadcast from Hanoi reported an F-105 had been shot down but did not provide any details.

Semper Fi

Al "Grandpa Munster" Lewis will be fondly remembered not only as one of the great comic actors of the 1960's, but a progressive who sought to organize nonunion workers into unions and as fighter for other progressive causes.

More on the life of Al "Grandpa Munster" Lewis here.

Al Lewis was one of the nicest and best advocates for the old American left. Lewis was 96.

PROGRESSIVE VALUES

Good morning, all.

How approprite to come over to this thread this morning...the new Majority leader in all over the tube this morning explaining why we don't need any new restraints on lobbyist activites...just better disclosure (and more creative bookkeeping?).

His soultion: let the Ethics Committee oversee the graft and bribery.

He also just told Chris Wallace that lobbyist paid golf trips to Scotland are "educational seminars."

This guy is too good to be true. In their haste to get away from the Abramoff taint, the Republicans voted for a guy who sings the same song as DeLay and acts like a happy drunk ...the self-proclaimed "Dean Martin comes to Washington" Republican politican...golf club in hand with all the right K Street mob connections.

I think he will do quite nicely for an election year characiture of the Republicans' distain for those who elected them to be honest and forthcoming.

good morning, y'all

thanx for the lineup, Cyn...i caught the last 15 minutes of Timmy and that was enough...the unmitigated gall of the "journalists" who calmly report that as long as there is a reThuglican majority it doesn't really matter how flagrantly the misadministration fudges with the "law" tee hee

they didn't say it that way, but that's the implication...the calm and resigned view from the top, um bottom...wherever they are in the pile

it's amazing that Chavez is standing up to them...our rhetoric is embarassing to shameful...what are they thinking? boning up on my dusty, rusty espanol is a good idea...

otherwise, how is everyone?

Paul, I wasn't aware that Al died! I have one of his campaign posters from a few years ago. He was something else.

Press the Meat update: Specter said he would consider a subpoena wrt Judiciary hearings on domestic spying.

if you missed these photos of robert nofacts giving timmy the secret handshake at TalkingPointsMemo, have a look...before they're scrubbed

link

Regarding the jello shot discussion earlier this morning....is this one of those let's get the kids hooked on booze at an early age thing? I remember Jello merchandising those Easter egg jello molds to mothers with small children ten years ago or so.

I can't understand why anyone would want to get their alcohol release in such a slimmy manner. Sipping from a glass between snacks and conversation is a lot more relaxing. Is it easier to mix date rape drugs in these things?

I think Jello also marketed jello molds in the shape of various animals and Xmas decorations. Jesus jigglies are not out of the question, then?

alberto has his script in hand for the hearings tomorrow...my prediction...nada

we let it go and it's too late to grab this greased pig...as cyn said earlier on another topical note: "we are screwed" but insert the "f" word in my version

posturing is all this is...the media whores are correct, sadly...nothing will come of this, but hey...let's pay attention to the important stuff...

it's superbowl sunday! and they've put in a lot of hard work in Detroit gettin' the place all gussied up...DPD posted this most excellent link on that topic, for those of you that love the seamy underbelly of truth--photos speak volumes...

bread and circuses

Jesus jigglies are not out of the question, then?

Posted by SandyH on February 5, 2006 at 10:55 AM

ROTFLMAO!

I'm a huge Al Lewis fan as well, Cyn. He was way cool!

Not only was he a great progressive voice, but his 1960's, THE MUNSTERS show, involved some great storylines, comic acting, great wild 1960's George Barris custom cars, trippy theme music inspired by both surf music and offbeatism and other things that made growing up in the mid60's great.

PROGRESSIVE VALUES

Good morning everone.
Looks like the GOP is putting on a full court press this morning on the talking head shows. Boner is everywhere. 'Course the question is, where is the other side? A full court press is tremendously more efective if the team with the ball is only allowed to field one player to your five.

News flash:
Boner believes Tom DeLay is innocent.

It should be noted that the average age of the liberals on the Supreme Court is 72, while the average age of the conservatives is 58.

This is further proof of wisdom coming with age. But we shouldn't hold the lack of life experience against young conservatives which fuels their very foolish opinions.

PROGRESSIVE VALUES

Good morning, bloggers.

A man (and the same thing may be said of a people) may procure the means of existence in two ways,—by creating them, or by stealing them... We may steal them by breach of trust, by violence, by force, fraud, war, etc.

Letter to "Meet the Press".

How could a news organization responsible for reporting the news to the American people fail so miserably on a simple issue of domestic spying. On the Meet the Press show on Feb. 5, 2006, your show included a poll. That poll asked Americans if they support the program to wiretap calls to or from foreign suspects. Using that poll borders on propaganda and does not reflect the issue. The issue is (and the poll should have addressed) if Americans support wiretapping on Americans WITHOUT A WARRANT! Any editor who is not biased or inept should understand that THAT is the issue. That is what the American people want to learn about. The inability of your show to accurately address the real issue is troubling in that it represents either an incompetent organization or one that is biased. Both are unacceptable if the United States is going to continue to enjoy a free and unbiased press.

Everyone seems to have left.
I am outta here too.

Hi everybody! Just a quick pop in to wish you all a happy Slacker Sunday.

Go Steelers!

Enjoy the day!

Exclusive: Can the President Order a Killing on U.S. Soil?

Feb. 13, 2006 issue - In the latest twist in the debate over presidential powers, a Justice Department official suggested that in certain circumstances, the president might have the power to order the killing of terrorist suspects inside the United States. Steven Bradbury, acting head of the department's Office of Legal Counsel, went to a closed-door Senate intelligence committee meeting last week to defend President George W. Bush's surveillance program. During the briefing, said administration and Capitol Hill officials (who declined to be identified because the session was private), California Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein asked Bradbury questions about the extent of presidential powers to fight Al Qaeda; could Bush, for instance, order the killing of a Qaeda suspect known to be on U.S. soil? Bradbury replied that he believed Bush could indeed do this, at least in certain circumstances....

WATCH YOUR BACKS.......

Happy Seahawks Sunday!

Thanks for the Newsweek link Burnsey.

{{{Burnsey}}}, {{{Joanie}}}

Two of my favorite people! Hope all is well with you and your's !

Robert, I am headed to CA on Thursday. I wish I could get up to SF to meetup, but I am going to help my daughter run a Fund Raiser for TriValley Rescue Center, and don't know what kind of time I will have.

One of these times, definetly though. I would love to meet up with Tylin, too. She is out there.

CT is having a sunny, nice day today. ( For a change. ) Very good for the Morale.

Well, Well, looks like Cheney and Rumsfeld wanted Domestic wiretapping and spying back in the 70's !

"Washington - An intense debate erupted during former U.S. president Gerald Ford's administration over the president's powers to eavesdrop without warrants to gather foreign intelligence, newly disclosed government documents revealed.

Former president George Bush, current Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Vice-President Dick Cheney are cited in the documents. The roughly 200 pages of historic records reflect a remarkably similar dispute between the White House and Congress fully three decades before President George W. Bush's acknowledgment he authorized wiretaps without warrants of some Americans in terrorism investigations.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020506X.shtml

www.politicalpixeladpage.com

hehehe

“I don’t think the American people, if you look historically, elect angry candidates. And whether it’s the comments about the plantation or the worst administration in history, Hillary Clinton seems to have a lot of anger,” Mehlman told ABC’s “This Week.”

When contacted for a response, Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson said, “If the president and the White House spent half as much time worrying about the runaway deficit and the broken Medicare system as they do about Hillary Clinton, the country would be in much better shape.”

http://news.bostonherald.com/election2004/view.bg?articleid=124570

anybody notice Tim Russert this morning, calling Boehner , BAHNER ! Like "Boe" is really pronouced "BAY" !

I guess it is just too hard to keep a straight face and call the guy Boner!

Ken "in the closet" Mehlman says Hillary has "a lot of anger", and is not sure (he's confused about other things too) that is what americans want.

Dick Cheney bolstered the Chairmans statement by adding "yeah she needs to go f**k herself..."

You are welcome to freep the poll

and it is not about boners, Pammie :)

Hillary has a lot of anger? I don't see her doing anything but playing nicely with others planning a run for the Presidency like Lesley Graham. Mehlman must have her mixed up with that Republican woman who wanted to run against Hillary for Senator.

Is it just me? Or doesn't it seem almost impossible to keep track of all the open threads? There are people posting all over the place because this one is way too long.

Posted by PamB on February 5, 2006 at 03:34 PM

The same cast of characters keep on popping up. These guys are like pit bulls. Once they get their teeth into something, they can't let go. They are terrorizing the neighborhood and scaring young children.

Like most dangerous animals, it's up to the owners to make them behave. So those of you who voted for these out-of-control neocons, time to see that they are put into chains where they can't do anybody else any harm.

Steven Bradbury, acting head of the department's Office of Legal Counsel,...

This crack legal team has come up with some really bizzare interruptations of the law in the last few years. The Constitution seems to keep tripping them up. Without it, it would be so much easier to make their arguments for torture, warrantless doemestic spying, free speech zones, and invading other countries because they don't look like Mayberry.

Posted by Chicago on February 5, 2006 at 12:04 PM

Chicago, remember who owns these media outlets. Free press? I think not.

Good grief - I had a hard time finding people this afternoon! I think we have 3 threads open right now.

Did I ever have one heck of a mess this morning. My husband and I were doing our usual Sunday gig, reading newspapers, drinking coffee. I turned on Timmy to see who he had on. It was the Boner. I was right in the middle of a rather large glup of coffee when he (the Boner talking) said that the trips to Scotland were "educational" and that he had to make speechs. Well, the coffee flew out of mouth like the last launch of the space ship. So, I had to go into my cleaning mood and scrap coffee off of my carpet. Shame on NBC, they should tell us when they're going to have Comedy Hour on! That guy (the Boner) is a roit! How he can keep a straight face and let the words - no wait, he's had good training that's right - he's a republican!

Anyhow - just thought I'd do a fly by. Hope your afternoon is going good. I can't get into the Super Bowel. The Packers aren't in it and I hate - I mean I hate that fat f*** Mike Holgrom. He's such a traitor! I hope he loses by 1 point. (sorry for those of you who are Seahawk fans - I understand your pain - you'll understand in the morning -hehehe

One Party Rule is Over!

Little Alberto will again show on Monday how willing he is to protect his boss.

This is the same "Al" Gonzales who helped get W out of jury duty in Texas so he wouldn't have to answer questions about his DUI in Maine. For his help in that cover-up he got a spot on the Texas Supreme Court; what prize will he get for this cover-up if it succeeds?

Is this the open thread? Good grief, I have been all over looking for ya' all.

{{Cyn}}

Looks like Tim started his SuperBowl celebrating on Friday !

Pam, how hard is it to put up a new thread? This is starting to tick me off. Is this the thread we are using???? If so, I will post it on the myriad of other threads so people know where we are.

Cyn, It appears this is the one that is getting the most action, so I would say so. But it has been a slow day, whether because of the Threads, or people out and about.

I saw Tim say he could not post a new thread from wherever he is, so he must have forgotten us !

well its half time and i am rooting for seatle as they have never been in it before so that could be the kiss of death.

my computer will be in the shop for the next week so i will either post from some other machine or live the three dimensional life till friday or saturday.

impeach bush.

hi everyone

we'll miss seeing you first thing in the mornin' gregg...please find a place to post

we need your twisted sense of humor...mwah!

live the three dimensional life till friday or saturday.

impeach bush.

Posted by gregg on February 5, 2006 at 08:10 PM

Watch out! The DT's are gonna get ya! haha

I was right in the middle of a rather large glup of coffee when he (the Boner talking) said that the trips to Scotland were "educational" and that he had to make speechs.

Not only that, Boner also said that the money he took from Abramoff had nothing to do with Abramoff. See, that's how the Republicans work. Money that Democrats DIDN'T take from Abramoff is "Abramoff related", and money Republicans DID take from Abramoff is "NOT Abramoff related". Then later in the show Russert exclaimed, "Democrats sure 'get mad' when you say they took money from Abramoff too!" Hello! We "get mad" at liars like you.

Hello! We "get mad" at liars like you.

Posted by WD on February 5, 2006 at 09:28 PM

hello! ain't it the truth...i only caught fifteen minutes of the tail end, and it still made my blood boil. i did not, however, yell or scream at the t.v., so apparantly a quarter of an hour is an acceptable dosage of psychological operations for me.

i heard mike malloy was taken off the air somewhere in california...ya think he'll last much longer? i hope so, but i'm scared

WAR IN IRAQ -- 2,247 U.S. & 202 Coalition Deaths

That's 2,247 DEAD US Soldiers based on a lie. A lie that resulted in the exposure of an undercover CIA agent and led to the creation of secret prisons for the abduction and torture of men, women and children all without trial. A lie which led to War Crimes on a grand scale.

A lie which must be redressed by taking back the House of Representatives and impeaching the President and Vice-President of the United States before fascism locks its hands around America's throat strangling it into submission and return to democracy, liberty, and freedom are but a dream.

There are times when regular politics will not do, and this is one of those times. -- Molly Ivins

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/

so he must have forgotten us !

Posted by PamB on February 5, 2006 at 07:45 PM

well, let's hope so. he's young and it's toiletbowl weekend! party hearty, tim!!!

just be sure to get back here with some fresh ideas and photos come monday, young man. hope you had a wonderful time!

personally, i enjoy watching us try to deal with the challenges of long threads...good exercise for problem solving...

we appreciate you, buddy...even if we don't say it very often. thank you

Mike Malloy's a surviver. I'm sure he'll be all right.

"For nearly 20 years, Mike Malloy has been making talk radio like this: caustic, abrasive, inventive, confrontational and resolutely left of center. It has won him admirers and awards, and it has cost him jobs. At a time when the very genre of talk radio is widely seen as synonymous with strident conservatism, his career both ratifies and belies that premise."

http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2003/05/13/malloy/index_np.html

WD

my cousin's boy was killed last June...24 years old, same age as mine...

al anbar province, he was a marine

we need this craziness to stop, but it will take a leader that talks to some other "god", since only Satan himself could bring about this descent into hell...no loving force had a role in this disaster

these big box churches are springing up all over around these parts...and i work with a few people that go to them...they are absolutely certain of so much...and george bush is a christian, so that's why they voted for him

it would be inappropriate for me to say what i think, and i need my job...love my job, actually...so i just walk away

What you've got, though, is a sense that Washington isn't working, it isn't solving or dealing with the problems of ordinary people, and that is producing a very strong sense of disapproval of Congress; 35 percent approval rating, or lower, in polling 60 percent of the country saying we're on the wrong track. Democrats aren't winning any popularity contests either, but as the party in power, holding all the branches of government, Republicans clearly have the most to fear from that kind of tide.

MR. RUSSERT: But Democrats get hopping mad if anyone suggests that this is anything more than a Republican scandal.

MR. HARWOOD: Well, the Abramoff scandal is fundamentally a Republican scandal, but the issue of lobbying and the relationship between lobbyists and members of Congress, that's very bipartisan. So it's a question of which scandal you're talking about. I think one of the most interesting things from your interview with Congressman Boehner is the idea that earmark reform, which in our poll ranked among--by voters as the most important thing that they thought could be done,

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11160479/page/7/

Chris Matthews: Breaking the law may be "part of the job" of being president.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200601130004

GREAT LITERARY TAUNTS

"I feel so miserable without you, it's almost like having you here." Stephen Bishop

"A modest little person, with much to be modest about." Winston Churchill (about Clement Atlee)

"I've just learned about his illness. Let's hope it's nothing trivial." Irvin S. Cobb

"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." Clarence Darrow

"He has never been known to use a word that might send a reader to the dictionary." William Faulkner (about Ernest Hemingway)

"He is not only dull himself, he is the cause of dullness in others." Samuel Johnson

"He had delusions of adequacy." Walter Kerr

"I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it." Groucho Marx

"They never open their mouths without subtracting from the sum of human knowledge." Thomas Brackett Reed

"He loves nature in spite of what it did to him." Forrest Tucker

"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it. " Mark Twain

"His mother should have thrown him away and kept the stork." Mae West

"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go." Oscar Wilde

"He has no enemies, but is intensely disliked by his friends." Oscar Wilde

"He has Van Gogh's ear for music." Billy Wilder

yeah, and the impeachment process might be the appropriate course of action after midterms...i love how the stephdekakalous is predicting that the Democrats won't be picking up any seats.

that little twerp has-been is so full of himself

Watch This British News Video and Then Ask Why is Bush Still in the White House and Not In Jail? And This is Just One of His Impeachable Offenses.

Video

WD,
The literary taunts are so great, i had to email them, which is something i hardly ever do. Those are great!

Information Awareness Office

The IAO originally had a mission of Total Information Awareness -- amended in May of 2003 to Terrorist Information Awareness (TIA). John Poindexter, former United States National Security Advisor to President Ronald Reagan served as the first head of the IAO.

The IAO and its stated mission caught the attention of many conspiracy theorists and civil libertarians, particularly with its use of the pseudo-Masonic eye-in-pyramid symbol in its original logo. That logo featured the eye of Providence from the Great Seal of the United States gazing at the Earth, and the Latin motto scientia est potentia, meaning "knowledge is power". In addition, "Iao" is another name for a gnostic supreme diety and sun-god , the Demiurge which is purportedly referred to in Masonic ritual.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Awareness_Office

Poindexter was convicted on multiple felony counts on April 7, 1990 for conspiracy, obstruction of justice, lying to Congress, defrauding the government, and the alteration and destruction of evidence pertaining to the Iran-Contra Affair. The convictions were reversed in 1991 on the grounds that the prosecution's evidence may have been tainted by exposure to Poindexter's testimony before the joint House-Senate committee investigating the matter, in which Poindexter's testimony was compelled by a grant of 'use immunity'. The prosecution was not able to re-try the case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Poindexter

http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/

Negroponte supervised the construction of the El Aguacate air base where Nicaraguan Contras were trained by the U.S., and which some critics say was used as a secret detention and torture center during the 1980s. In August 2001, excavations at the base discovered 185 corpses, including two Americans, who are thought to have been killed and buried at the site.

Records also show that a special intelligence unit (commonly referred to as a "death squad") of the Honduran armed forces, Battalion 3-16, trained by the CIA and the Argentine military, kidnapped, tortured and killed hundreds of people, including U.S. missionaries. Critics charge that Negroponte knew about these human rights violations and yet continued to collaborate with the Honduran military while lying to Congress.

In May 1982, a nun, Sister Laetitia Bordes, who had worked for ten years in El Salvador, went on a fact-finding delegation to Honduras to investigate the whereabouts of thirty Salvadoran nuns and women of faith who fled to Honduras in 1981 after Archbishop Óscar Romero's assassination. Negroponte claimed the embassy knew nothing about the nuns. However, in a 1996 interview with The Baltimore Sun, Negroponte's predecessor, Jack Binns, said that a group of Salvadorans, among whom were the women Bordes had been looking for, were captured on April 22, 1981, and savagely tortured by the DNI, the Honduran Secret Police, and then later thrown out of helicopters alive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Negroponte

Junior appointed John Negroponte to be Director of National Intelligence. (DNI). The jokes on us.

WD,

I expect this from Democrats!!

Start with the AG.

He claims that the reason they did not follow FISA was that it did not allow for quick enough reactions. As we know FISA allows for a 72 hour delay between when the wiretap is initially set, and when the warrant finally has to be issued. The questions for the AG are:

Is your Justice Department capable of filling out a warrant in three days?

How many warrants/wiretaps would this domestic spying program require on an average day?'

They are telling us that the program is limited. Only a few citizens have been involved.

If that is true, why haven't they been able to follow FISA?

Pat Robertson was on Hannity and Colmes the other day to discuss his new book, Miracles Can Be Yours Today. While he was on, Colmes brought up Robertson's comments calling for the assination of Hugo Chavez. As it turns out, Robertson wasn't really sorry.

COLMES: You did say assassination. Was that a mistake?
ROBERTSON: Well, we did -- I've got a wonderful news team. They did a five-minute analysis of Chavez. It was just brilliant. It ended with him saying the United States is trying to assassinate me.
And what I should have said was we ought to accommodate him and kept my mouth shut. Instead of that, I said well ahead -- and then I went on from there. And I said, well, the special forces should take him out.
But my premise was -- and this is so important -- I don't like to go to war. I see young men maimed. You all were talking about that earlier in the show, you know, this cartoonist, so obnoxious.
We've spent $200, $300, $400 billion dollars in Iraq. Wouldn't it have been better to have targeted Saddam Hussein? Wouldn't it have been better to have targeted Adolf Hitler? And I just think that we ought to wage war against the dictators...
(CROSSTALK)
COLMES: Should Chavez be assassinated?
ROBERTSON: Well, one day he's going to be aiming nuclear weapons. And what's coming across the Gulf isn't going to be Katrina, it's going to be his nukes.
COLMES: Would you feel better going back to the original comment, that if he were assassinated the world would be a safer place?
ROBERTSON: I think South America would. He has got hit squads. He's a very dangerous man.
COLMES: So you're not taking back the comment. You believe assassination of Hugo Chavez would be in the best interests of the world.
ROBERTSON: Rather than going to war. One day, we're going to have to go to war, I'm afraid, if he continues his policy. You know, but I don't know. I wrote him a letter. I apologized to him.
COLMES: But wait a minute. If you say you apologized to him, what you just said seems to contravene that, because you just now said...
ROBERTSON: I know. I know.
COLMES: ... you think it'd be better if he be assassinated.
ROBERTSON: Alan, the whole thing we've got to deal with is that one day, if he continues his course of trying to mobilize Marxist powers in South America, it's going to be a clear...
COLMES: He's very popular with his country.
ROBERTSON: Well, yes and no. But he does...
HANNITY: He's building up weapons against the United States, isn't he?
(CROSSTALK)
ROBERTSON: He's also calling for the destruction of George Bush. He calls him a war criminal.
COLMES: You want him taken out?
ROBERTSON: Not now, but one day, one day, one day.

here

and here

Pat Robertson was on Hannity and Colmes the other day to discuss his new book, Miracles Can Be Yours Today.

Sounds to me like he fancy's himself in the miracle selling business. "Just buy my book and Miracles Can Be Yours Today!"

WD,

A new thread...now that most are asleep.

Did I mention today that the DLC should be kicked out of the Democratic Party?
-- Mark Frankenberg
http://www.JustSayNOtoFascism.com