Kicking Ass: The Democratic Party's Blog

"Tired Concepts"

Posted by on March 29, 2006 at 04:11 PM

That's what the RNC thinks of...

- Eliminating Osama bin Laden

- Providing our troops with the necessary armor in Iraq

- Implementing the 9/11 Commission Recommendations

- Transitioning full sovereignty in Iraq to the Iraqi people

- Inspecting 100% of inbound cargo

- Energy Independence

- Securing loose nukes

That's the big difference between the Republican and Democratic parties. On the other side of the aisle, these are "tired concepts" that are only important when promised during a campaign cycle. No need to actually implement them when they control the executive and legislative branches of government ... claiming you we'll get Osama bin Laden "dead or alive" is only good for a boost in approval ratings. When it comes time to govern, priorities quickly shift to providing no-bid contracts to friends of the adminstration, building a wall on our southern border, and securing a place or residence in the bedrooms of families across the country.

These aren't tired concepts. These are goals that that a responsible party in power during a "post 9/11 world" would be striving to accomplish. Fact is, the current adminstration and its rubber stamp Republican controlled congress has presided over a spectacular weakening of national security -- quick to sell our safety down the river to the highest bidder. Osama bin Laden is still on the loose, the Middle East threatens to become a mass of instability, North Korea's nuclear ambitions remain a serious threat to our safety, and our pourous borders remain vulnerable to terrorist and WMD infiltration. And the list goes on. And on. And on and on and on and on and on and on.

If there is an executive branch willing to take security seriously instead of playing politics at every turn, this is what we will accomplish with a Democratic congress in 2006. Real Security.

Comments (18) «

Tim, good post.

It really is pathetic to look at the GOP website. It's a drab place to visit, poorly laid out, and is spewing their same lame talking points. "Democrats have no message... Democrats have no message..." Blah blah blah. That was SOOOO 2004.

Democrats have a message! Kick the bums out and you all will see what an honest, open government can do! People are slowly realizing what it means not to have Democrats fighting for THEM in their government.

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Vigla on March 29, 2006 at 04:35 PM

Everything in their world is a concept. They can't quite get around to taking any action that solves a problem...only creating new ones...and breaking the law.

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SandyH on March 29, 2006 at 05:32 PM

Just testing.

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Josh on March 29, 2006 at 06:28 PM

This should answer all questions !!


"In political debate, we can never gain the upper hand as long as we allow our opponent to pose all the questions and demand all the answers.

For years, the Republicans have been insisting that Democrats have no right to talk about national security unless they first present a 'plan' for Iraq. Unfortunately, the Republicans have repeated this demand so often that many elected Democrats believe it to be true. But it is not true.

To lead this country, Democrats should stop answering questions posed by the Republiccans and start posing questions themselves--questions to the Republicans and answers to the American people.

To lead this country, Democrats must ask the questions. And the question on Iraq is not 'Do we have a plan?' The question is: 'Have you had enough?'


http://www.frameshopisopen.com/

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PamB on March 29, 2006 at 06:46 PM

OK, I'm not a Republican first off, But I have to ask this question. Is this post and the Dems coming out with this B.S., a ploy to divert the work the Dems and the Repubs are doing to allow amnesty to the Illegal Aliens without addressing Labor laws, and protecting our borders? I notice this is not on your AGENDA! For once the Repubs are going to back a bill written and endorsed by Dems. And allow them to vote the bill to pass? "Get It"?!!!!! The shit is not going to hit the fan in our history books in the Repubs house for this, even though they love the bill.

I am Outraged at Kennedy. And for those of you who don't get what he is doing. These "Illegal Aliens" have not gone the correct route to become "Legal" in the dirst place. Remember, we are talking about "Illegal Aliens" and "Corporate owned companies" that have been allowed to commit felonies already on our books that have penalties up to 20 years. The hell with new laws. Enforce the ones we have already!!

If you think for one minute that they are going to register to become Legal, while living in this country waiting in line behind every "Legal Immigrant" who abides by the "law" and then six years plus later, pay a 2,000.00 fine, back taxes and learn english and civics to become one, Why? They are already here and thier kids are going to school, have health care, and in some states legal drivers licenses, they are earning an income and who's paying for it? Not our buddies owning the companies, who by the way usually pay by the day "Cash if you know what I mean". In the mean time corporate American can exploit, exploit, exploit!!!

All on the heart strings of us niave educated middle income Americans, by the way, tax paying and law abiding, if I may add, BILL!!!!!

Shame on you Kennedy. You can fool some people, but not those who really know the American Governments Agenda. It's not the people. It's Corporate America.

Well, no thanks, I can plant my own flowers and mow my own lawn and cook my own dinner thank you very much!!!!!!

What a Joke.

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AmercnWmn on March 29, 2006 at 07:00 PM

I fully agree with Pam B!We need to be the ones asking the tough questions!All this amounts to is jumping into their spin cycle when you don`t.I`m so sick of what they call debate today!All it seems to be is media spin.This can`t be a word debate,it needs to be about our country and where we are going!This republican majority throughout all branches has steered this country to the most dangerous places I`ve seen in my lifetime!They need to be confronted with this.As I say this what comes to mind to me,is President Bush claiming that all this violence in Iraq is because of Saddam Hussein!(scapegoating)I suppose they will never stop spinning?They`ll do almost anything except own their own crap.

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virgo on March 29, 2006 at 08:20 PM

I have been a lifelong registered democrat and I do not support Illegal Immigration! When 95% of the American people do not want illegal immigration why does 80% of Congress feel it is okay to support Illegal Immigration?

Why does Congress represent the interests of foreign nationals instead of our own people? STOP Illegal Immigration! The only way to get them to listen is to STOP the CASH FLOW...do not financially support politicians who undermine the working class by pandering to Illegal Immigrants.

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beri on March 29, 2006 at 10:51 PM

There ya go!

Finally,I'm seeing us strike back at the RNC and throw that crap right back in their face! Whooo Hoooo Tim!

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FreedomOfSpeechForComprehensiveImmigrationReform on March 30, 2006 at 12:29 AM

I was so disappointed to see the new Democratic platform, they're right, it's tired old shit. We manage to take a lousy situation, and then propose to make it worse. Talking in generalities, we're going to get bin Laden, gee. We're going to drive the Taliban from Afghanistan, really, the Russians couldn't do it, our best forces haven't been able to do it for the last four plus years. I guess we're going to try harder. That might work in the Rental Car business, but it's empty rhetoric, and I was hoping for something more.
Why can't we answer the Republican challenge with a plea to them: If they would stop taking action that caused our situation in Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, among other places around the world to deteriorate, on a daily basis, we may be able to form a coherent policy that offered workable solutions and not just what our analysts think will appeal to voters. The security issue is a farce, at least from a terrorist perspective.
We have not had a significant terrorist attack since 9/11, has it been because the Bush administration has provided this country with better security? Have we just been lucky? Or, is it possible that our security is adaquate for the realistic threat that terror organizations pose? Could it be that the Bush administration has blown the threat posed by terrorists into something that it is not?
Keeping Americans focused on terror allowed the administration to launch a full scale attack on the Constitution, which is one of the real threats we face, run up hugh deficits for which Americans receive nothing, and divert our attention from the frontal assault corporations are inflicting on Middle America.
Let's not chase the Red Herrings that the Republicans are so adapt at creating.
It's time for us to stop and think. If the terrorists could do more damage, wouldn't they?

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crazymel on March 30, 2006 at 05:43 AM

crazymel,

Right on!! As in it is tired old shit.

While they are diverting the Dems attention, Kennedy and McCain are giving away Amnesty in the disguise of harsh rules that no Illegal will follow. Why should they. Have they followed any rules that are currently on the books?

In the meantime, we have "Legal" Immigrants fighting our wars along side my 2 sons, for what?

Illegal aliens and thier anchor babies flooding our streets in protest?

Well, my deepest respect go to those who would sacrifice the ultimate for the love of our Country. My loyalty is with those Legal immigrants and the Americans in harms way.

Let's give them a Country to come home to and the benefits and respect they deserve!! Let's give them the money we spend on the illegals and keep thier jobs safe when they decide to get out of the Armed Forces. And while we are at it, let's reward those Legal Immigrants the honor of citizenship immediately for they are the true example of what it means to be an American.

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AmercnWmn on March 30, 2006 at 06:10 AM

crazymel,

Right on!! As in it is tired old shit.

While they are diverting the Dems attention, Kennedy and McCain are giving away Amnesty in the disguise of harsh rules that no Illegal will follow. Why should they. Have they followed any rules that are currently on the books?

In the meantime, we have "Legal" Immigrants fighting our wars along side my 2 sons, for what?

Illegal aliens and thier anchor babies flooding our streets in protest?

Well, my deepest respect go to those who would sacrifice the ultimate for the love of our Country. My loyalty is with those Legal immigrants and the Americans in harms way.

Let's give them a Country to come home to and the benefits and respect they deserve!! Let's give them the money we spend on the illegals and keep thier jobs safe when they decide to get out of the Armed Forces. And while we are at it, let's reward those Legal Immigrants the honor of citizenship immediately for they are the true example of what it means to be an American.

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AmercnWmn on March 30, 2006 at 06:12 AM

I registered as a repubican back when they were fiscally conservative. I no longer find anything conservative about the party. I am not alone in my disenfrancisement. Let's us help, give us a canidate we can vote for. Inhofe is vulnerable. Find a canidate in the center and less crazy. Do it now.

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Altruist on March 30, 2006 at 12:40 PM

SHAME ON CONGRESS
Shame on the senate for passing a ethics reform bill that has loopholes big enough to sail a cargo ship full of unchecked containers right through them. Why is this story not getting more attention from our party and the msm. The selling of our congress is costing Americans more than any other issue confronting them.

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BillMiller on March 30, 2006 at 02:42 PM

If you have failed to capture the man responsible for 9-11 and it appears you aren't capable enough to get that job done in the future, just forget about him. Wow, what a policy. Drain the terrorism issue for all you can get out of it but let their leader plan new attacks until he dies of old age. One of the oldest Republican strategies is,'always keep your enemy alive'. He is no good to you dead or in prison because the public will forget about him and start watching you. Look at all the bad guys Republicans have focused our attention on during the Reagen and both Bush's terms. They are all alive or have died of old age. We watched these guys while Republicans robbed the taxpayers bank and ran off with all the money and we haven't caught on yet.

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Tug on March 31, 2006 at 09:50 AM

And now that Bush is gearing up to sell our national forest lands we will be having foreigners buying these lands while rubbing their hands together in glee that they could so easily "buy" America.

This administration goes beyond incompetence. In fact, they go so far beyond it I don't think there's an English word that adequately covers the actual crime.

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Rally on March 31, 2006 at 12:49 PM

Ever notice that the GOP always attack the Democrats for having no plans for anything,but when we do we're attacked for having one?

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ncmoderateyouth on March 31, 2006 at 04:41 PM

We've got two parties: one that gets Nobel Prices and one that gets things done.

In a time when Europe unites, North America signs a trade treaty, it is natural to expect that the Arab speaking countries, will follow a similar path.
Moreover, an idea of the pan-arabian unity is much older than an idea of the united Europe is. From the above follows that some Middle-Eastern leaders may had seen themselves as a key figure in a process of implementing such a unity. Saddam Hussein, certainly, saw himself as a suitable candidate for such a leadership. Would the leader of the Baath party be successful? I do not know. But, evidently, both recent Republican presidents of USA were convinced that it may happen. Both believed that Saddam Hussein, was a bad candidate, mainly because of his anti-Semitic declarations, and both decided to spend billions of dollars on launching a war against him.

An alternative path, for the Westerners, was to broaden and to deepen friendly relations across industry networks and interest groups, with homologues in Arab World. It is a symptom of new times, that the states give away their powers. Under circumstances, one should ponder carefully if it make sens to revitalize divisions based on nonindustrial binds, such as nationality, ethnia or religion. Most twenty-first-century men see themselves a professional, a craftsmen, a businessmen, an intellectual rather than member of ethnic group. Calling one by the last category is, by most modern standards, an insult. Nations, in a first place, in most of the cases, were the people hurdled together by the strong guy of the area. Nations, in more than a few cases were the people forced to accept one language, one religion and a particular tax-collecting authority. All of the above done under a pressure of a death penalty. What is so great about being a part of the nation?

Well, a nation started as an extention of a tribe, is deeply rooted in our genes and in a history.
For thousands of years a main language talken between neighbouring cities was a genocide. I want to believe that the world is changing. I want to believe that birth of America was synonymous with rejecting the world based on no-chance, on blood lines, on slavery. The fathers of this nation promised the future based on equal rights of all individuals, equal chances and justice. This great idea spread across the planet.

After the attacks of 9/11 a sympathy of the entire World was on American side. After a prompt military victory in Afganistan the World could not avoid comparing it to fruitless Russian struggle going on for years, in the same country. Americans were BIG WINNERS.

Under Bush, an average American moved to a bigger house, drives newer car, spends more on
entertainment and on weight-loss programs than ever before.

We should be happy and admire Mr. Bush. Impossible! May be a history will swallow it easier, but today one can not agree with the fact that people are being killed by thousands. The solfier who is shooting rockets to humans at short range, or who is bombing whole blocks of houses just because some single terrorist might have been there, builds nothing else but hatred and moral justification for action of the same ethical value.

I want to keep admiring USA because they helped to dismantle Soviet empire. The World became too small and too transparent for us to tolerate the tyranny, just like a village became too small and too transparent for a husband to batter his wife and children.

Mr. Bush is right, the World needs to redefine the rules because it functions differently than a hundred years ago. One of cornerstones of international laws is respect for the sovereignty. The World needs to have a second look on how the roles of the states and the roles of interstate institutions should be shaped for future generations.

Not everything can, nor should, be solved by a parliamentary process! We all accept, that calling the Police takes place, not as a result of voting, but, simply, as a result of a decision of a neighbour or a passer-by to request urgent help!

If the UN does not tackle the most important issues of a day, it may be so, because UN is
empowered to address problems from after WW2 rather than these of tomorrow.

It may be that Arab World united under Saddam Hussein was Mr. Bush's nightmare. Democracy may require babysitting! A self-appointed babysitter is, most likely, taken for child molester. A self appointed policemen, most likely, will end up in jail.

So far, Mr. Bush got punished for his taking the law in his own hands. Why did he put himself in such a misery? To start with, Mr. Bush got pressure coming from the laws of the very democracy he promotes: he was in a time squeeze. One of restrains the democracy puts on its leaders, is limited time one can stay in the office. Mr. Bush could not prepare long term remedies to his Middle-East worries. He needed, instant cure,he needed to do what his father told him, get rid of Saddam.

Now what? Both Palestinians and Iraqis voted for "wrong party". That brings us back to the
fundamental questions of democracy: is popular the best? is the best for the most what is the
best for a subset? Can democracy come from outside?

I am sure, Mr. Bush's drive was to earn himself a distinct and noble place in the history. I am sure a dignity, he offers to each individual, he wants to allow to himself, as well. He is a good guy in his own mind.


"Divide and impera" is hardly a new idea. It is not perceived as a symptom of good will neither.

Given, however, that globalization and global policing are rather unavoidable facts than theory, the World needs to start working seriously on structures and mechanisms that would let us avoid committing errors such as bombing of a nation in order to change their leader.

A word "gerrymander", comes from an ever enriching vocabulary of democracy. In fact, is a softer word for a gentler version of "divide and impera". May be we should start there? A separatism should be as legal as a right to form an association or as a right to get divorced. Once a set of priviledges going together with sovereignty is trimmed and clearly defined, separatism becomes less
polarizing as an issue. Right now, no way! Due to the rules in place, the separatists are the
enemies of the nation.

Please, do not jump to fast conclusion that I suggest to Mr. Bush to gerrymander Iraq.
It is rather "reversed gerrymander" with quenched authority that I see as a solition.

What I say is that we should start working on mechanisms that would help us to avoid escaping to or being a target of a suecide mission or bombing of the church. I believe that redefining sovereignty, that letting the African nations in particular, but all nations in principle, to redefine their
borders, are essential changes that must take place.

Generous, if not unlimited, proviledges to sovereigns are direct reasons for escaping to bloody wars.

What I'm suggesting here is that Mr. Bush can still earn his place beside Jefferson and Reagan, if he uses his remaining years in office to repent himself, to recognize and analyze his errors and start working on building or rebuilding of the international forums and institutions that should and will govern the future World.

Well, we have two parties: one that gets Nobel Prices and one that gets things done.
I don't know which qualifies better for this job. I am sure, it is worth to be credited for setting a foundation for these important changes.

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BobRoskee on April 1, 2006 at 03:52 AM

Actually, the Republican plan seems to be bring up a new single-issue-voter issue and get everyone all stirred up about it so they will shoot themselves in their collective foot by voting against their own best interests.
Or didn't you all wonder why this immigration issue got all stirred up just before the elections for Congress?
Just a coincidence? If you think that, I've got a bridge to sell you.

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Butte on April 2, 2006 at 11:22 AM


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