Kicking Ass: The Democratic Party's Blog

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Posted by Josh McConaha on April 29, 2006 at 10:44 PM

Good work today.

Comments (438) «

Out of Iraq -- Into Darfur

And Yahoo and MSNBC had no choice but to cover the New York City March, since 300,000 activists marched against the Bush Regime.

The tide is turning

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PeppermintLizzy on April 29, 2006 at 10:54 PM

you sound good lizzy. thanks for making the trip.

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gregg on April 29, 2006 at 10:55 PM

Josh,

Made some friends today. Talked about politics. Everyone in California is either saying "I told you so" or "Don't blame me, I didn't vote for him".

Haven't found any Republicans who were willing to go on camera saying "stay the course". Its possible they maybe hiding somewhere, I don't know for sure.

California has been a majority Democratic stronghold for a long time and things don't seem to be changing much with regard to that.

I believe the Democratic Party should be proud of what they are doing.

Thank you and have a pleasant evening.

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Benji on April 29, 2006 at 11:00 PM

Hi, I'm a volunteer for John Laesch for U.S. Congress. He is running in the Illinois 14th Congressional District against Dennis Hastert. We took part in the 50-State canvass effort today and one of the people who were out canvassing posted a diary about the canvassing on DailyKos at http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/4/29/211142/765.

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JaredLash on April 29, 2006 at 11:01 PM

YAY!

Hey the old Pretzeldent actually looked VERY uncomfortable at the white house dinner with Colbert. If I didn't know all the things he's screwed up in OUR name I might actually feel sorry for him having to go through that!

I wonder who it was that was laughing hysterically in the background. They kept panning to people but none were laughing. Maybe it was Laura?

Evening! I watched the movie Pearl Harbor for the first time too....... it was sad!

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Dawnie on April 29, 2006 at 11:02 PM

Hi Greg,

Nothing like Spring time in New York with thousands of friends. I wish you could have been there, but I was there for all you guys.

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PeppermintLizzy on April 29, 2006 at 11:05 PM

How many people in NY ? About 3 million? and you had 300K show up to rally? Wow that's pretty good!! Did you see anyone inparticular Lizzy?

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Dawnie on April 29, 2006 at 11:08 PM

Thank you Lizzy, for being there for us. I wish I could go with you sometime.

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jen on April 29, 2006 at 11:11 PM

Posted by JaredLash on April 29, 2006 at 11:01 PM

Yay!

Hastert MUST GO!!!!

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Dawnie on April 29, 2006 at 11:22 PM

Congrats Everyone!!!

Don't forget to BREATHE!!!!

It's been an exciting day it seems for many! That is good medicine!

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Dawnie on April 29, 2006 at 11:29 PM

Is anyone watching C-Span for the White House Correspondents Dinner? Apparently Stephen Colbert was really good or bad...depending if you are the President.

Philly has the live blogging

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PeppermintLizzy on April 29, 2006 at 11:29 PM

Bush of a Thousand Days by FRANK RICH

woohoo he's back from vacation!

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jen on April 29, 2006 at 11:31 PM

guess I'll crash as no one sees fit to answer me

maybe tomorrow I'll try again

gnite DNC! Keep up the great work!

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Dawnie on April 29, 2006 at 11:37 PM

Night Dawn...sweet dreams...I got lost in cyberspace...so many links...so little time:-)

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xdebx on April 29, 2006 at 11:39 PM

did you ask a question Dawnie? Sorry, I'm watching a movie at the same time. See you later sweetie.

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jen on April 29, 2006 at 11:47 PM

gnite dawnie

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Benji on April 29, 2006 at 11:48 PM

Oh I see, thank you Dawn! I'm breathing. ;)

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jen on April 29, 2006 at 11:48 PM

where did the word "liberal" come from, and what does it mean, really?

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ScottPippin on April 30, 2006 at 12:01 AM

Check it out Scott:
Etymology of the work liberal

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 12:10 AM

What does it mean to you? Is it related to being a Democrat? Can Republicans be liberal?

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ScottPippin on April 30, 2006 at 12:19 AM

Posted by ScottPippin on April 30, 2006 at 12:19 AM

no

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xdebx on April 30, 2006 at 12:24 AM

i know of no liberal republicans. republicans are conservative. or the ones we have today are fascist, i.e. corporatist.

To me they are the same thing, democrat and liberal.

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 12:28 AM

Was there ever a time when republicans were liberal?

On a different topic, did anyone hear Neil Young's album yet?

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ScottPippin on April 30, 2006 at 12:37 AM

Hey! What happened to all of Yimminy's post? I find Yimminy's posts to be very helpful and rewarding.

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Winkie on April 30, 2006 at 12:37 AM

Winkie,

Kitchen,

Potatoes,

Need I say more.

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Benji on April 30, 2006 at 12:46 AM

I did, Scott. Love it.

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 12:47 AM

I did find something about liberals. Thank you. Do you want to see it?

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ScottPippin on April 30, 2006 at 12:49 AM

I thought it was very good. I liked the version of "America The Beautiful" a great deal. You could tell that he was behind the president until he started to realize how he and the rest of America had been lied to. The songs on the album change in tone.

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ScottPippin on April 30, 2006 at 12:52 AM

i have to head to bed Scott but I'll see it in the morning. Take care.

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 12:54 AM

The best song was the one about impeaching the president, of course.

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ScottPippin on April 30, 2006 at 12:55 AM

Main Entry: self·less

Pronunciation: 'sel-fl&s

Function: adjective

Date: 1825

: having no concern for self : UNSELFISH

- self·less·ly adverb

- self·less·ness noun


Main Entry: un·self·ish

Pronunciation: "&n-'sel-fish

Function: adjective

Date: 1698

: not selfish : GENEROUS

- un·self·ish·ly adverb

- un·self·ish·ness noun


Main Entry: gen·er·ous

Pronunciation: 'jen-r&s, 'je-n&-

Function: adjective

Etymology: Middle French or Latin; Middle French genereus, from Latin generosus, from gener-, genus

Date: 1588

1 archaic : HIGHBORN

2 a : characterized by a noble or forbearing spirit : MAGNANIMOUS, KINDLY b : liberal in giving : OPENHANDED c : marked by abundance or ample proportions : COPIOUS
synonym see LIBERAL

- gen·er·ous·ly adverb

- gen·er·ous·ness noun

Main Entry: lib·er·al

Pronunciation: 'li-b(&-)r&l

Function: adjective

Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from Latin liberalis suitable for a freeman, generous, from liber free; perhaps akin to Old English lEodan to grow, Greek eleutheros free

Date: 14th century

1 a : of, relating to, or based on the liberal arts (liberal education) b archaic : of or befitting a man of free birth

2 a : marked by generosity : OPENHANDED (a liberal giver) b : given or provided in a generous and openhanded way (a liberal meal) c : AMPLE, FULL

3 obsolete : lacking moral restraint : LICENTIOUS

4 : not literal or strict : LOOSE (a liberal translation)

5 : BROAD-MINDED; especially : not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or traditional forms

6 a : of, favoring, or based upon the principles of liberalism b capitalized : of or constituting a political party advocating or associated with the principles of political liberalism; especially : of or constituting a political party in the United Kingdom associated with ideals of individual especially economic freedom, greater individual participation in government, and constitutional, political, and administrative reforms designed to secure these objectives

- lib·er·al·ly /-b(&-)r&-lE/ adverb

- lib·er·al·ness noun

synonyms LIBERAL, GENEROUS, BOUNTIFUL, MUNIFICENT mean giving or given freely and unstintingly. LIBERAL suggests openhandedness in the giver and largeness in the thing or amount given (a teacher liberal with her praise). GENEROUS stresses warmhearted readiness to give more than size or importance of the gift (a generous offer of help). BOUNTIFUL suggests lavish, unremitting giving or providing (children spoiled by bountiful presents). MUNIFICENT suggests a scale of giving appropriate to lords or princes (a munificent foundation grant).

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ScottPippin on April 30, 2006 at 12:56 AM
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ScottPippin on April 30, 2006 at 01:15 AM

Posted by ScottPippin on April 30, 2006 at 12:56 AM

Well, those are definitions of "Liberal" as an adjective. It has no relevance to liberal as a political concept or a noun. Let me help you out:

Main Entry: Liberal as a political concept.

1) One who believes in government above all else.

2) One who believes government should make decisions for everyone as individuals are not equiped to make decisions for themselves.

3) One who lives in the United States of America and believes that Cuba and Venezuala have superior forms of Government and leaders.

4) One who believes their nations borders should be open to every uneducated loser the world can offer in the hopes they will vote for liberals.

5) brainless fool.

synonyms LIBERAL AS A POLITICAL CONCEPT Brainless, goofy, simpleton, dufus, cowardly, foolish, stupid, dolt, dungball, wretched, weenie.

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Winkie on April 30, 2006 at 03:05 AM

The Presidents comedy bit wtih the lookalike was funnier than Colbert's. Colbert bombed big time.

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Winkie on April 30, 2006 at 03:11 AM

Posted by PamB on April 29, 2006 at 08:18 PM

Well PamB, Don't get your Depends in a bunch.

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Winkie on April 30, 2006 at 03:22 AM

Damn, I didnt know Bush was Liberal but here it is. Thanks Winkie

1) One who believes in government above all else. Bush thinks he is the govt and can make all the decisions without oversight. I guess he believes govet above all else.

2) One who believes government should make decisions for everyone as individuals are not equiped to make decisions for themselves.
Bush rushed to Washington to sign a bill to allow the govt to interfere in the Shivo case. I guess he didnt think the husband or his many doctors were equipped to make the decision.

3) One who lives in the United States of America and believes that Cuba and Venezuala have superior forms of Government and leaders. King George wants to be a dictator like Castro, I guess he is envious of these other governments.

4) One who believes their nations borders should be open to every uneducated loser the world can offer in the hopes they will vote for liberals. Bush wanted to sell our ports and he is for the "guest workers" He surely must want open borders.

5) brainless fool. NUFF SAID

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TexasLane on April 30, 2006 at 05:30 AM

does anyone where I can watch a repeat of the White House Correspondents Dinner either to tivo or to stream download?

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TexasLane on April 30, 2006 at 05:35 AM

Good morning, Democrats!

Anyone who thinks that government can't do much good shouldn't be allowed to run for public office.

Have a great day.

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dorsano on April 30, 2006 at 05:40 AM

"Fox News gives you both sides of the story -- the president's side and the vice president's side,"

Great quote from the Dinner.

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TexasLane on April 30, 2006 at 05:44 AM

Since Jacque's no longer posting funnies,
enjoy

(shout out to the fine folks at Dkos)

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dorsano on April 30, 2006 at 06:17 AM

Texas, Crooks and Liars has it; I believe DailyKos has a link to the Colbert fireworks. I sat mesmerized. It was truly a 'shock and awe' moment. I hope something good comes out of it! What a brave man Colbert is.

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Chris on April 30, 2006 at 07:39 AM

Morning, Dems! Sunday morning talk show lineup from Kos:

60 Minutes: A profile of panda killer Steven Colbert (aka Ted Hitler). Ed Bradley investigates the authenticity of "The Da Vinci Cod" (no, really!) It's sweeps weeks. And a look at leaking radioactivity (no not bush), the Hanford nuclear plant.

This Week: Complete Failure, Condo-liar Rice. Chuck Schumer debates gas prices with former Louisiana senator (and current petro-lobbyist) Bennett Johnston. And in a taped interview, George Clooney on the Darfur genocide.

Face the Nation: More Lies, I mean Rice. Then Maria Cantwell debates ANWR with baby Seal hunter, Lisa Murkowski

Meet the Press: Sec of Energy, Samuel Bodman (who??); Petroleum Pres, Red Cavaney, carnival barker, Jim Cramer; Dick Durbin, and Daniel Yergin, of the Pulitzer-winning book, "The Prize"

CNN: Lies, Lies, Lies, Rice...gonna getcha Then the president of the Strom Thurmond Society, Trent Lott vs Righteous Babe, Barbara Boxer.

Air America's Politically Direct: David Bender celebrates his 1st anniversary with clips and outtakes: Feingold, John Edwards, Hillary, Randi Rhodes, Janeane Garofalo, Al Franken, Whoopi Goldberg and Bobby Kennedy, Jr.

What's Facts got to do with it?? The Reich celebrates their 10th year. Brit Hume still insists he's not running a party organ and how can you argue with him? When he's right, he's right! Just look Sunday's guests: Josh Bolton and Tony Snow. See!!


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Cyn_NY on April 30, 2006 at 07:54 AM

morning cyn. another beautiful day.is this new york?

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gregg on April 30, 2006 at 08:02 AM

Good Morning Gregg and Cyn,

I wish I was in New York.It's raining and it's cold here in Green Bay.:(

Did anyone see the White House Correspondence Dinner last night with Steven Colbert?

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FreedomOfSpeechIsAllWeHaveLeft on April 30, 2006 at 08:12 AM

I hope to see a lot of Mexican, Salvadoran, Guatamalan, and other countries' flags flying tomorrow. And of course I can't wait till I hear the Spanish version of our national anthem. Then we have the protest itself to look forward to.

I hope it gets widespread coverage and lots of media attention.

The backlash from people who can "legally" vote should be tremendous.

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anke on April 30, 2006 at 08:16 AM

Morning, Gregg and Freedom. I missed the Dinner. I wonder if I can catch the rerun?

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Cyn_NY on April 30, 2006 at 08:18 AM

Posted by Cyn_NY on April 30, 2006 at 08:18 AM
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You can on CSpan.I don't want to spoil it for you but I will say this.If you're considered the "base" of the Democratic Party,you will have LOVED Stephen Colbert.If not,you might think he was too mean to the Predident and his Right-Wing Minions.I mean, Colbert gave no mercy.Bush got it,Fox News got it,the Republican Party as a whole got it and Bush,if you look closly at him was just as uncomfortable as he was at the Rosa Parks Homegoing.It was awesome.

P.S. You'll come away from it wondering if these people are really so dumb that they may have booked Colbert because they thought he was really a Right Wing Conservative in real life like what he protrays on The Colbert Report.They looked a bit confused because Colbert really gave them all the "what for".Ha Ha Ha.

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FreedomOfSpeechIsAllWeHaveLeft on April 30, 2006 at 08:26 AM

Good Morning Dors, Cyn, Freedom,

It is a beautiful day. And Cyn - did I ever say how much I appreciate you posting the Sunday Morning Talking Heads.

and this is for Greg:

Oo ah oo ah oo oo, Kitty
Tell us about the boy
From New York City
Oo ah oo ah come on, Kitty
Tell us about the boy
From New York City

He's kinda tall
He's really fine, yeah, yeah,
Someday I hope to make him
mine, all mine yeah, yeah

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PeppermintLizzy on April 30, 2006 at 08:30 AM

Freedom and Cyn,

Crooks and Liars also has the video.

And I am sorry Dawn, I was watching C-Span last night and never got back on here. I was tired too. But it was worth watching Stephen Colbert.

Did I miss something? Is Jacq not posting anymore? Why?

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PeppermintLizzy on April 30, 2006 at 08:34 AM

Posted by anke on April 30, 2006 at 08:16 AM
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They don't like the Latino American National Anthem.......They better be glad I did'nt record mine.It's in English too.I call it, the Liberal American National Anthem.Here it goes.You might remember it from Last December.

Oh,Say can you see
Where is my liberty
It's been stolen by Bush
Through Illegal Wiretapping

Who's broad lies and false wars
has caused terror and strife
Now the world hates our guts
We're no longer in the right

And I don't think it's fair,
for Blacks Bush doesn't care
Theres proof from the floods
FEMA was'nt there

Oh, Say is there one ounce of Free Speech Left
To where a ($#&*&#) Tee,without fear of arrest.

Maybe I will in July.LOL

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FreedomOfSpeechIsAllWeHaveLeft on April 30, 2006 at 08:34 AM

Posted by PeppermintLizzy on April 30, 2006 at 08:34 AM
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Hey Pep

I enjoyed Steven last night.Any opportunity to make sure George Bush understands what 2/3 of the American People really think of him the better it will be for the Democrats.

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FreedomOfSpeechIsAllWeHaveLeft on April 30, 2006 at 08:40 AM

Thanks, Freedom and Lizzy! No one could ever be too mean to the Pretzeldent. I'm off to watch the video!

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Cyn_NY on April 30, 2006 at 08:48 AM

Good Morning Freedom,

I like your National Anthem.

For Pam, courtesy of Jane at Firedoglake.

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PeppermintLizzy on April 30, 2006 at 08:48 AM

FMI on Colbert's Roast of the President,

The President did not seem amused.He He!

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002425363

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FreedomOfSpeechIsAllWeHaveLeft on April 30, 2006 at 08:50 AM

Posted by Cyn_NY on April 30, 2006 at 08:48 AM

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Have Fun.You'll enjoy it.:D

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FreedomOfSpeechIsAllWeHaveLeft on April 30, 2006 at 09:01 AM

Please let the November elections be somewhat fair. The backlash will be phenomenal if voters were allowed to vote and enough machines were placed where they belong.

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Chris on April 30, 2006 at 09:06 AM

Posted by Chris on April 30, 2006 at 09:06 AM
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They will.We just gotta broaden the gap between the two parties and NOT do something flipping stupid like a third party.As much as I want Russ Feingold to run in 2008 as a Progressive,I'm not stupid and neither is he.It's just too darn close to play aroung like that.

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FreedomOfSpeechIsAllWeHaveLeft on April 30, 2006 at 09:26 AM

major Boston Globe investigative report: Bush issues SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY (750) signing statements in 5 years. Says he dosn't have to follow laws passed by Congress if he doesn't want to. Guess he wasn't kidding when he said he wanted a monarchy with him as king.

I am King George the Shrub, bow before me

WASHINGTON -- President Bush has quietly claimed the authority to disobey more than 750 laws enacted since he took office, asserting that he has the power to set aside any statute passed by Congress when it conflicts with his interpretation of the Constitution.

Among the laws Bush said he can ignore are military rules and regulations, affirmative-action provisions, requirements that Congress be told about immigration services problems, ''whistle-blower" protections for nuclear regulatory officials, and safeguards against political interference in federally funded research.

Legal scholars say the scope and aggression of Bush's assertions that he can bypass laws represent a concerted effort to expand his power at the expense of Congress, upsetting the balance between the branches of government. The Constitution is clear in assigning to Congress the power to write the laws and to the president a duty ''to take care that the laws be faithfully executed." Bush, however, has repeatedly declared that he does not need to ''execute" a law he believes is unconstitutional.

Former administration officials contend that just because Bush reserves the right to disobey a law does not mean he is not enforcing it: In many cases, he is simply asserting his belief that a certain requirement encroaches on presidential power.

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bb on April 30, 2006 at 09:49 AM
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pee-wee on April 30, 2006 at 10:20 AM

good morning! who saw clooney on snuffalupagus? he was great!!

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 10:20 AM

durbin is doing so great on press the meat.

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 10:21 AM

John Kenneth Galbraith passes, sadly. Whoever dubbed economics "the dismal science" never spoke to Ken.

John Kenneth Galbraith, writer, economist, dies


Giant in politics, academia was 97

John Kenneth Galbraith, a towering figure in American intellectual life whose astringent wit and elegant iconoclasm graced the academic and political scene for seven decades, died yesterday at Mount Auburn Hospital in Cambridge. He was 97. His son, Alan Galbraith, told the Associated Press his father died of natural causes.

Ken

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bb on April 30, 2006 at 10:29 AM

Thx BB, he was great.

jkg:
In all life one should comfort the afflicted, but verily, also, one should afflict the comfortable, and especially when they are comfortably, contentedly, even happily wrong.

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 10:43 AM

Posted by jen on April 30, 2006 at 10:43 AM
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Ditto.

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FreedomOfSpeechIsAllWeHaveLeft on April 30, 2006 at 10:46 AM


Liberalism is, I think, resurgent. One reason is that more and more people are so painfully aware of the alternative.


The conspicuously wealthy turn up urging the character building values of the privation of the poor.

The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 10:47 AM

Jen, I missed Durbin, darn. What did he say??

I did read what Chuck Schumer said:

"What's good for ExxonMobile is not necessarily good for America."

"This administration belives that what's good for ExxonMobile is good for America."

But I don't think that Schumer has figured out that this administration does NOT believe in bi-partisan politics.

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PeppermintLizzy on April 30, 2006 at 10:49 AM

Hey FOS! how are ya?

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 10:51 AM

Hey, check out my latest post and let me know if it's appropriate to post in other places, if you guys would. Pretty please, especially you Lizzy and Jen. I would appreciate it.

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DeLLBerto on April 30, 2006 at 10:52 AM

He was the only one who said the profits of the oil companies should be taxed, lizzy, and that we need to invest in alternative fuel.

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 10:56 AM

my pleasure Dell!

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 10:57 AM

Good morning Dems. Question: Has anyone using AOL been able to access Air America Radio over the XM radio feature? Seems that most of the stations are available but NOT AAR. ??? Benefit of the doubt: am I not looking in the right place?

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followthemoney on April 30, 2006 at 11:07 AM

Hey Jen

DellBerto,

I do not think you should use that post.I understand it's satire,but I know for a fact that certain people in this nation will be too stupid to get the fact that it's fake and will judge accordingly.It mirrors the actual beliefs of MANY Supremist in this nation and I believe that your origional intentions for posting it will be drowed out by the vast number of hateful Supremists who live in this nation.It will have the opposite effect in that it will fuel the hatred already aimed at Minorities and Jews and can be damaging to the Democrats because it came from a Liberal.That's just my opinion.If you still want to share that posts,it's up to you.I just think things like that drive a further wedge between myself and the White Community.It's borderline Bill Bennett.

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FreedomOfSpeechIsAllWeHaveLeft on April 30, 2006 at 11:11 AM
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DeLLBerto on April 30, 2006 at 11:12 AM

Posted by FreedomOfSpeechIsAllWeHaveLeft on April 30, 2006 at 11:11 AM

That's a good way for me too look at it. That's part of the reason I came here for; a bit of advice, knowing what I wrote was pretty controversial and would be able to be construed as I am the bigot.

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DeLLBerto on April 30, 2006 at 11:15 AM

follow,
I have AAr on XM, but, same as you, cannot access the channel from online. I go to airamericaradio.com to recieve the channel online.

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Chris on April 30, 2006 at 11:15 AM

It has nothing to do with AOL.

Use real player.

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pee-wee on April 30, 2006 at 11:16 AM

THE OIL INDUSTRY OWNS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

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Benji on April 30, 2006 at 11:18 AM

DellBerto,

I'm sorry.I see you didn't ask for my opinion.Nevermind.I spoke too soon.Although,I still feel that way.:D

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FreedomOfSpeechIsAllWeHaveLeft on April 30, 2006 at 11:18 AM

Posted by FreedomOfSpeechIsAllWeHaveLeft on April 30, 2006 at 11:18 AM

No, I appreciate it. You didn't speak to soon. I did ask for everybody's opinion actually, just Lizzy and Jen especially because I also post on blogs they read and contribute too and wanted to know if I should post it elsewhere.

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DeLLBerto on April 30, 2006 at 11:21 AM

John Kenneth Galbraith, one of the greatest proponents of American liberalism as well as a sharp critic of the abuses of capitalist economics has died.

Galbraith served Presidents Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy and Johnson. His book THE AFFLUENT SOCIETY helped to inspire the 1960's War On Poverty during the Kennedy and Johnson years that sought economic justice for 35 million Americans living in poverty at the time, and was only one of many very accessible and fun to read economic works by this great liberal author and economist.

PROGRESSIVE VALUES

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PaulSHooson on April 30, 2006 at 11:22 AM

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY SOLD ITSELF OUT TO THE OIL INDUSTRY.

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Benji on April 30, 2006 at 11:22 AM

Posted by DeLLBerto on April 30, 2006 at 11:21 AM

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Oh,Okay.:D

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FreedomOfSpeechIsAllWeHaveLeft on April 30, 2006 at 11:23 AM

Morning all. thanks for that article, Lizzy, I had read it in it's entirety the other day. I have found great enthusiasm amongst CT Dems for Lamont, while taking petition signatures. And Lieberman is falling right into it, with his early ads. People here really cannot stand his nasally whinny voice and ugly puss! All he is doing is fueling the fire!


In this morning's Hartford Courant. did you know that Bush approval is LOWEST in CT of all the Nation? Makes me Proud!

Last week, just a few days after even the unashamedly pro-Bush Fox News recorded Bush's national approval rating at 33 percent, the Hartford Courant/University of Connecticut Poll of state voters recorded Bush at the record-low approval rating of 24 percent. That poll, conducted by UConn's Center for Survey Research and Analysis, put Connecticut at the lead of a nationwide loss of confidence in the chief executive.


http://www.courant.com/news/local/northeast/hc-fullrun.1.necover.artapr30,0,3391043.story?coll=hc-northeast-top

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PamB on April 30, 2006 at 11:24 AM

I'm gonna run over to HuffPo because they're having a huge fight right now about Steven Colbert,Fox News and the Democrats VS The Republicans.It's getting good.See ya'll later.

Peace, mon ami's

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FreedomOfSpeechIsAllWeHaveLeft on April 30, 2006 at 11:26 AM

CONDOLEEZZA RICE HAS ABSOLUTELY NO CREDIBILITY, ESPECIALLY ON THE SUBJECT OF THE MIDDLE EAST.

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Benji on April 30, 2006 at 11:27 AM

I was just looking at this blog. Thought you might want to read what Ice Station has to say about Darfur.

Out of Iraq -- Into Darfur

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PeppermintLizzy on April 30, 2006 at 11:27 AM

My husband is watching the clip right now of Stephen Colbert and I just keep hearing these loud outbursts of laughter coming from the library.

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PeppermintLizzy on April 30, 2006 at 11:29 AM

WHEN I WANT TO WATCH FOOTBALL OR A REALITY GAME SHOW, I MIGHT TURN THE CHANNEL TO FOX.

IF I WANT TO WATCH ANYTHING RELEVANT, FOX ISN'T ON THE LIST.

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Benji on April 30, 2006 at 11:30 AM

one solid hour on energy policy and cheney's super secret policy writing meetings attended by the same industry execs who refused to joion today's MTP panel were not mentioned once? wtf!!!!!!!

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bb on April 30, 2006 at 11:32 AM

Good morning everyone!

This weekend seems to be another weekend of awards, did you all catch who received the Golden Nozzle Award

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Kristen on April 30, 2006 at 11:34 AM

From the BuzzFlash email:


Last night Stephen Colbert, who plays a priggish right wing commentator as his television persona, lambasted Bush with laceratingly true humor at the Washington D.C. White House Correspondents (Transcribers) Dinner.

Immediately, the right wing started howling that Colbert had been disrespectful to Bush. We heard the same thing when Bush was criticized for starting a foolish, bloody, costly war at the funeral of Coretta Scott King.

Message to the Wingers: Bush is a President, an American, a Citizen. He is not king, although his followers worship him as one.

He is a man that declared "Mission Accomplished" nearly three years ago and this weekend we passed the mournful threshold of 2400 GIs killed in Iraq. Bush taunted, like an adolescent, the insurgents to "Bring 'em on," and it resulted in more deaths and grievous injuries to our fighting men and women and the Iraqis.

Bush can sit through some criticism. The memory of our dead soldiers demands it. They would be alive today if it weren't for this incompetent, arrogant, spoiled brat.

Our hats off to Stephen Colbert. Revealed as complete lapdogs and worthless publics relations funcitionaries were the attendees at the event, the so-called White Horse Press Corps. They are just lackeys for the corporate media.

Colbert, with devasting irony and wit, shamed them by showing what the "reporters" fail to do: make the new American monarchy accountable


Then this article, Colbert, You Are My Hero:

http://www.newshounds.us/2006/04/29/stephen_colbert_you_are_my_hero.php

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PamB on April 30, 2006 at 11:35 AM

THE REPUBLICANS ARE OIL INDUSTRY SLAVES.

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Benji on April 30, 2006 at 11:38 AM

And this really gets me!(from that link above) The want Respect for the Office, AFTER what they did to Clinton????

They are also dialing right-wing talk shows to call Mr. Colbert every name in the book, threaten him with death and accuse him of besmirching and disrespecting the office of the President of the United States.


hehehe:

WASHINGTON A blistering comedy “tribute” to President Bush by Comedy Central’s faux talk show host Stephen Colbert at the White House Correspondent Dinner Saturday night left George and Laura Bush unsmiling at its close.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002425363

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PamB on April 30, 2006 at 11:40 AM

PamB on April 30, 2006 at 11:24 AM

that bodes really well for Ned!

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 11:44 AM
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jen on April 30, 2006 at 11:44 AM

CONDOLEEZA RICE IS SPINSTER.

DONALD RUMSFELD IS A COWARD.

DICK CHENEY IS A GOOBER.

GEORGE BUSH IS A OIL INDUSTRY POSTER BOY.

AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE OIL INDUSTRY SLAVES.

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Benji on April 30, 2006 at 11:45 AM

AND DON'T FORGET,

RUSH LIMBAUGH IS A DRUG ADDICT.

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Benji on April 30, 2006 at 11:46 AM

Jen, I am really getting excited that Ned can do this! When I attended the Petition Training the other night, too, all of the supporters of Ned are SO enthusiastic. they make me look placid! This state is eager to get rid of Lieberman and to End this ill-begotten Invasion and Occupation! Ned keeps pointing out what this $30 Million per day spent on Iraq, could be doing for our country! Who the hell cares if this country has Democracy or not? It is obvious they do not care nor want it over there, yet we have to have 20,000+ of our men either dead or injured for it???


I am excited to get a chance to go to the Democratic Convention here in the State. I get to see it all in person!

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PamB on April 30, 2006 at 11:49 AM

Immigrants contribute $240 billion to our Gross National Product every year, including contributing $7 billion in Social Security annually. They contribute to the U.S. economy $25 billion more than they receive in healthcare and other social services. The anti-immigrant politicians and hatemongers say, 'immigrants are a drain on society.' It's time to prove them wrong. It's time to make our voices heard, in support of immigrants and in support of immigration.

The nationwide coalition of pro-immigrant groups is calling for a general strike on May 1 -- a boycott to show the economic power of immigrants and their supporters, and to show the political power of our combined voices. The basics of the boycott:

No Work, No School, No Sales, and No Buying.

There will be rallies around symbols of economic trade in your area (stock exchanges, anti-immigrant corporations, and other public places). Wear white as the symbol of unity. And avoid as much spending as you can on Monday, May 1.

Together, a million voices will be heard, and will make a difference. We believe with numbers we have power, the power currently necessary to keep the pressure on the White House to propose provisions that are just and fair for all immigrants.

If the anti-immigrant politicians and hatemongers are right, that 'immigrants are a drain on society,' then during the day on May 1st, the stock market will surge, and the economy will boom. If not, we prove them wrong once and for all. We know what will happen!


******************************
www.NotOneDamnDime.com .

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 11:51 AM

bbl.

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PamB on April 30, 2006 at 11:54 AM

THat is SO awesome, Pamb!! I'm stoked too! Woohoo. Anything I can do from here, make calls, etc. let me know!

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 11:54 AM

GoodMorning America:

www.NotOneDamnDime.com .
Posted by jen on April 30, 2006 at 11:51 AM

So that makes all their figures 100% on the money? No stretching it a bit, and what about all the other areas such as law enforcement?

http://www.ice.gov/pi/investigations/wanted/fugitives.htm

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dk2 on April 30, 2006 at 11:55 AM

HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT

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Benji on April 30, 2006 at 12:01 PM

Hey jen, what did you think of that posting? I changed the title a bit and hope you read the bottom line.

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DeLLBerto on April 30, 2006 at 12:02 PM

Hillary Sucks!

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pee-wee on April 30, 2006 at 12:04 PM
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dk2 on April 30, 2006 at 12:07 PM

But enough laughs, the situation in Darfur is so serious at this point. Today there are rallies all over this country. Bush is up to his old games again stating it is good to get out and rally. Our effing president creates havoc in Iraq all the while thousands and thousands of human beings are dying in Sudan.

I posted about it today.

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PeppermintLizzy on April 30, 2006 at 12:08 PM

oh yeah,

HILLARY ROCKS

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Benji on April 30, 2006 at 12:09 PM

Posted by pee-wee on April 30, 2006 at 12:04 PM

notice the way I used capital letter and the bold font.

HILLARY ROCKS

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Benji on April 30, 2006 at 12:10 PM

Hi Dell, I did read the bottom line and like the new title. I understand FOS's concern. I also think it can promote a discussion. I think people need to see what kind of nonsense is being put out by these unfortunately very popular 'pundits' of the right wing hate brigade.

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 12:10 PM

What would Hillary do?

Absolutely nothing.

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pee-wee on April 30, 2006 at 12:11 PM

Dell, Check this out.

Pam, Yesterday there were people marching and they had Ned Lamont buttons on. I wish that I had taken a picture to send to you.

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PeppermintLizzy on April 30, 2006 at 12:15 PM

I am committed to making life better for all workers worldwide. Period. My compassion doesn't end at the border. Until we hold those in power (both government and corporate) responsible for the lies and suffering they have caused, I don't want to hear about how we're going to make poor, honest, hard working people the culprits.

Whether you are a citizen of this country or another, if you commit a crime such as murder or other violent crime, you should be brought to justice and do your time.

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 12:16 PM

oh yeah,

SHE WOULD TO.

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Benji on April 30, 2006 at 12:18 PM

i mean,

SHE WOULD DO SOMETHING.

so take that.

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Benji on April 30, 2006 at 12:19 PM

Hillary's position on Iraq:

More Troops

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pee-wee on April 30, 2006 at 12:20 PM

Can't wait to see how many jobs low wage illegal aliens have taken from American workers.

When they're deported, the jobs can be filled by Americans, but for a decent wage.

All it takes is one employer to start using illegals and the rest are forced to follow if they want to stay in business.

You can't compete if you're paying your American workers $15.00 and hour and your competitor is paying $7.00 an hour to illegals.

I wonder how many illegals have the right to vote? I'm sure many politicians on both the left and the right would be willing to give it to them.

Too bad.

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anke on April 30, 2006 at 12:24 PM

just a drive by. i was at the gym and they had pumpkin head on. he had about 6 white, balding ( is durbin balding?) men on. they all agreed on most stuff...and they think that by 2025 burning corn and sugar ( food?) in our cars will turn things around nicely energy wise.

if the room they were sitting in was suddenly filled with concrete with them in it they would be just as helpful as they are currently.

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gregg on April 30, 2006 at 12:28 PM

Posted by pee-wee on April 30, 2006 at 12:20 PM

can you provide a link that will say what her position on Iraq?

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Benji on April 30, 2006 at 12:29 PM

gregg, what about durbin?

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 12:30 PM

Jen,

Yeah, who cares about Uganda, I mean Bush did not even care about Americans. Thousands of people died in New Orleans, but that was not bush's fault.

Damn this President.

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PeppermintLizzy on April 30, 2006 at 12:30 PM

No evidence of pump price profiteering: Bodman 12:19pm ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Bush administration sees no direct evidence of profiteering by big U.S. oil companies and is doing all it can to tame near-record prices, U.S. Energy Secretary Sam Bodman said on Sunday.


i am really glad this got cleared up. now can we nationalize the oil industry?

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gregg on April 30, 2006 at 12:31 PM

of course not Lizzy. Nothing is Bush's fault. It's all the fault of undocumented workers. Or Clinton.

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 12:32 PM

lizzy. we need to talk turtle.

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gregg on April 30, 2006 at 12:33 PM

clooney on blitzer too. my hero!

savedarfur.org

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 12:36 PM

When they're deported, the jobs can be filled by Americans, but for a decent wage.

You know you are really starting to annoy, you have no clue of what is going on. The effing president is not talking about deporting the immigrates of the United States anymore. He wants a nice, sweet little guest worker program. This way he can have his slavery of immigrants coming into the United States to do these VERY jobs and then he is going to boot them out again.

So what happens next, the bush regime DOES NOT raise the salaries, because they know they will be able to bus in a whole new group of workers.

Guess again Anke, you have been on the kool-aide way too long and you really should just shut up.

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PeppermintLizzy on April 30, 2006 at 12:39 PM

Hey I'm back.. I edited the Malkin post yet again. I think I put my point out a little better this time.

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DeLLBerto on April 30, 2006 at 12:41 PM

Question of the Day: How far will a Rolling Stone roll when he falls out of a coconut tree?

Rolling Stones guitarist Keith Richards has been taken to hospital in New Zealand after injuring himself while on holiday in Fiji.

A band spokeswoman said Richards had suffered "mild concussion" and was taken to hospital as a precaution.

Media reports in Australia and New Zealand said Richards had hurt his head when he fell from a coconut tree.

Keif: what were you doing in a coconut tree???????

come down out of the tree Keith, it's time to play

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bb on April 30, 2006 at 12:42 PM

I am committed to making life better for all workers worldwide. Period. My compassion doesn't end at the border. Until we hold those in power (both government and corporate) responsible for the lies and suffering they have caused, I don't want to hear about how we're going to make poor, honest, hard working people the culprits.

We are on the same page here Jen, you are preaching to the choir. Because we differ on illegals to this country doesn't mean I dont care for the suffering around the world and if you think so - you can think again.

When all else fails in your need to let the mexicans and other illegal walk into this country and thumb their nose at you, tell me I dont care. HOW DARE YOU.
You want to bless the few who can be close enough to cross the border, I want them to stay home and help save their country for all of their people not those who cut and run when the going gets hard, I am not proud or them for crossing out border and leaving their people as a whole to remain under the oppressive Mexican govt.

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dk2 on April 30, 2006 at 12:46 PM

Posted by DeLLBerto on April 30, 2006 at 12:41 PM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

SMAK!
Yes!
Much Better.
I like that a whole lot better.
LOL. :D

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FreedomOfSpeechIsAllWeHaveLeft on April 30, 2006 at 12:47 PM

If posting links is what you think rocks try this one:
http://www.freedomalliance.org/view_article.php?a_id=642

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dk2 on April 30, 2006 at 12:48 PM

Great job Dell!

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 12:49 PM

Posted by FreedomOfSpeechIsAllWeHaveLeft on April 30, 2006 at 12:47 PM

Good to hear. I could totally understand the way the old version could be misinterpreted and seen has hate speech. See, your opinion matters FOS ;)

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DeLLBerto on April 30, 2006 at 12:50 PM

Greg, we do indeed need to talk turtle.

And C-Span is running the entire White House Corresponent's Dinner in it entirety NOW. It started at 12:30.

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PeppermintLizzy on April 30, 2006 at 12:51 PM

TY Jen. Thanks guys/gals for checking it out and telling me what you thought of it. With more people telling me what they thought the better it got. You guys ROCK!

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DeLLBerto on April 30, 2006 at 12:52 PM

Oh,boy.I hope Warner isn't selling out to get Southern Votes.Ford too.
"Please God.Don't let the Democrats Backslide into their Old Southern Ways"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12553711/site/newsweek/

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FreedomOfSpeechIsAllWeHaveLeft on April 30, 2006 at 12:54 PM

Posted by DeLLBerto on April 30, 2006 at 12:50 PM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Thank you.Thank You vurry much";b

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FreedomOfSpeechIsAllWeHaveLeft on April 30, 2006 at 12:56 PM

When did I tell you you don't care, dk? Did I address you when I posted what you quoted?

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 12:57 PM

dk2 on April 30, 2006 at 12:48 PM

Founded by Ollie North? No thanks.

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 01:00 PM

Posted by jen on April 30, 2006 at 12:16 PM
Jen the above post you didnt address to anyone so, to me it is at any and all of us
Posted by jen on April 30, 2006 at 12:57 PM
So to answer the question on this post I would say yes.

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dk2 on April 30, 2006 at 01:01 PM

you know what dk? Don't share any more of your nasty links for my sake, I'm not interested in your anti-immigrant sites. I could care less what that ONE MAN has to say about immigration. HE does not represent me or anyone I know.

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 01:02 PM

Jen:
Posted by jen on April 30, 2006 at 12:57PM

That article wasn't written by Oliver North but, O k. Jen so now you give license to pick and choose, not to be informed,
or are you saying that only the people who founded your sites are the 100% correct people on the planet,

(for the record I dont appreciate Oliver North any more than any of the Repubs.)

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dk2 on April 30, 2006 at 01:08 PM

LOW IRAQI OIL PRODUCTION A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO HIGHER OIL PRICES...

FOR MORE INFO. GO TO THE FOLLOWING WEBSITE..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/28/AR2006042801082.html

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Kev on April 30, 2006 at 01:09 PM

not enough people are talking about the connection of the iraq war to higher oil prices.

this is another hidden cost of the war in addition to the horrible cost in terms of loss of life and raw military expenditures -- it's costing roughly 1-2 million barrels of oil per day in lost production -- please spread the word

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Kev on April 30, 2006 at 01:11 PM

Posted by jen on April 30, 2006 at 01:02 PM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I still haven't gotten an answer from people like that as to why we are just now focusing on it.I mean,now we have all these stats talking about how Illegal Immigration is costing us more.I thought they did'nt know how many illegals we had.Also,who's to say that the Hospitals aren't doctoring the books and claiming a patient is an Illegal Immigrant so they can get reimbursed rather than send the bill to collections? We don't know.He he.

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FreedomOfSpeechIsAllWeHaveLeft on April 30, 2006 at 01:12 PM

Jen, we just see it different, but I havent called anything you posted a name.

I have enjoyed most of your post, and I dont think less of you for any of it.

I do appreciate having a opportunity to discuss it.
Sorry if you feel anything other than that.

I respect your opinion, I just don't agree.

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dk2 on April 30, 2006 at 01:14 PM

IMMIGRATION IS A RED-HERRING REPUBLICAN ISSUE.

IMMIGRATION IS A RED-HERRING.

and,

IMMIGRATION IS BACKFIRING ON THE REPUBLICANS.

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Benji on April 30, 2006 at 01:15 PM

I'll bet this is exactly how Hitler started!!!
What Constitution? You mean that GD piece of paper????

Washington - President Bush has quietly claimed the authority to disobey more than 750 laws enacted since he took office, asserting that he has the power to set aside any statute passed by Congress when it conflicts with his interpretation of the Constitution.


Among the laws Bush said he can ignore are military rules and regulations, affirmative-action provisions, requirements that Congress be told about immigration services problems, "whistle-blower" protections for nuclear regulatory officials, and safeguards against political interference in federally funded research.


Legal scholars say the scope and aggression of Bush's assertions that he can bypass laws represent a concerted effort to expand his power at the expense of Congress, upsetting the balance between the branches of government. The Constitution is clear in assigning to Congress the power to write the laws and to the president a duty "to take care that the laws be faithfully executed." Bush, however, has repeatedly declared that he does not need to "execute" a law he believes is unconstitutional.


http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/043006Y.shtml

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PamB on April 30, 2006 at 01:15 PM

dk2, i respect you. i don't care for your opinion on immigrants as you know. my best friend is a rush coulter republican. i am able to be friends with people who disagree. the best way to do this i have found is not to dwell on subjects which we both know we don't agree on.

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 01:21 PM

Yeah, who cares about Uganda, I mean Bush did not even care about Americans. Thousands of people died in New Orleans, but that was not bush's fault.

Damn this President.

Posted by PeppermintLizzy on April 30, 2006 at 12:30 PM

Right, that was the hurricanes fault. And those stupid people, living in an area 12 feet below sea level with a category 5 hurrucane aproaching with a dike rated for a category 3 - they stayed in town, Duh.

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Winkie on April 30, 2006 at 01:22 PM

Jen:
moving on,

have a good day everyone,

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dk2 on April 30, 2006 at 01:24 PM

PamB,

Bush has repeatedly ignored important constitutional safeguards and important checks and balances. The NSA wiretapping program, European prison system, torture memo, and the use of the "enemy combatant" designation to deny an individual his constitutional right to an opportunity to be heard are a few examples of this... He's also arguably ignored international law in invading iraq... additionally, he's gone out of his way to mislead the country - his presidency is a disaster. But congress has enabled Bush to erode important safeguards. At times, the GOP congress has made power-grabs -- the "nuclear option" is an example of this.

The latest example of bush misleading the country relates to oil prices. A significant contributing factor to higher oil prices is the LOST oil production in Iraq that has occured since the 2003 invasion.

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Kev on April 30, 2006 at 01:24 PM

You don't have anything else to talk about dk? ok, be well.

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 01:30 PM

A significant contributing factor to higher oil prices is the LOST oil production in Iraq that has occured since the 2003 invasion.


Posted by Kev on April 30, 2006 at 01:24 PM


Hey Kev.

You notice they don't mention how the Iraqi Oil pipeline gets blown up daily, so that no oil is pumped, by insurgents who just want the US out of there. Gee, someone might think things are going splendidly in Iraq if they did !

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PamB on April 30, 2006 at 01:31 PM

THE REPUBLICANS ARE RUNNING OUT OF POLITICAL PONY TRICKS.

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Benji on April 30, 2006 at 01:31 PM

A 600-plus-page report to be released publicly Wednesday finds that
leaders from President Bush down disregarded ample warnings of the threat to
New Orleans and did not execute emergency plans or share information that
would have saved lives. The report lays primary fault with the passive
reaction and misjudgments of top Bush aides, singling out Homeland Security
Secretary Michael Chertoff


The report portrays Chertoff, who took the helm of the department six months before the storm, as detached from events. It contends he switched on the government's emergency response systems "late, ineffectively or not at all," delaying the flow of federal troops and materiel by as much as three days.

The White House did not fully engage the president or "substantiate, analyze and act on the information at its disposal," failing to confirm the collapse of New Orleans's levee system on Aug. 29, the day of Katrina's landfall, which led to catastrophic flooding of the city of 500,000 people.

http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/47/17635

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PamB on April 30, 2006 at 01:33 PM

How many laws does an illegal alien have to “break” and continue to “break” by entering the United States illegally, obtaining a job, getting a driver’s license, etc.?

Do illegal aliens evade paying taxes?

Do they help employers evade taxes? Do they work “under they table”?

Do they help employers evade compliance with all sorts of “work” rules?

Do they use phony Social Security numbers?

Do they obtain and use other false and forged documents?

Do they lie and make false statments on all sorts of forms and documents?

Are they not part of a widespread criminal conspiracy to thwart the enforcement of our immigration law?

Do they help lower wages for American workers by increasing the supply of workers available to employers?

Are they usually willing to work for lower wages than an American worker?

Ask yourself if you would appreciate unlimited competition for your job?

How can we have faith in a government that can’t even enforce existing law?

How can we believe that any kind of complicated guest worker, complicated amnesty, or other complicated immigration plan administered by our government can work?

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anke on April 30, 2006 at 01:33 PM

bbl,

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PamB on April 30, 2006 at 01:34 PM

Jen for the most part I agree with it, but for now I've got laundry, and a yard to mow. Catch you all next time.

Got to mow while its sunny!

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dk2 on April 30, 2006 at 01:38 PM

stephen colbert is killing! reality has a liberal bias

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 01:40 PM

My blog featured a great piece this week entitled, "How Cheap Oil Disappeared With The Failure Of Bush Foreign Policy", Kev, that detailed how big oil companies had planned for a U.S. military control of Iraq would allow them to search for a suspected 220 billion barrels of undiscovered oil or a 98 year supply to the U.S.

Instead of lowering the prices of oil, the Iraq War instead increased the price of a barel of oil from $28.50 in 2003 to $71.70 today. And a gallon of gas went from $1.56 in 2003 to an average of $2.91 today. And heating oil went from $1.13 in 2003 to an average of $2.59 today.

And the failed Bush policy of promotting democracy in nations not yet ready for it allowed for the election of the terrorist Hamas organization in the Palestinian region, and new acts of terrorism in both Israel and Egpyt have recently taken place. And the government of Jordan was angry to find that Hamas has secretly stockpiled rockets and weapons in a secret location in their nation to attack Israel.

In Iran and in South America, some antiU.S. governments have taken power in reaction to the Bush Administration and are having a huge impact on world oil prices. In Iran, the world could face a serious nuclear war as Iran now is able to enrich uranuim and was recently discovered to have purchased some weapons grade plutonium from some outside source. North Korea just sent a brand new shipment of long range No-Dong missiles to Iran that can hit targets in Europe. And Iran has conducted tests of three new missiles and weapons of their own design.

If the the intent of the Bush Administration was to double oil prices since the 2003 Iraq War, get America booged down in a failed no-win war in Iraq to aid some oil companies searching for cheap "undiscovered" oil, help elect radical governments in the MidEast and South America, create new political frictions that threaten both the U.S. and world oil supply, and push the world to the dangerous brink of a nuclear war with Iran, then it has been a really big success. If that wasn't the intent, then the Bush Administration has had the very worst foreign policy in U.S. history. Tony Snow will have an interesting time defending all of this.

PROGRESSIVE VALUES

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PaulSHooson on April 30, 2006 at 01:43 PM

Hey Everyone,

Just an OTS FYI.If you ever stay at a Hotel.Just becasue we tell you Check-Out Time is 12:00 noon,doesn't mean you have to wait till exactly 12 Noon.You can leave earier or a few minuets later...........Not all at the same exact time.Make it easy on us.LOL

Sheeeeze!:D

Dang,I have to go.Again.BBL

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FreedomOfSpeechIsAllWeHaveLeft on April 30, 2006 at 01:44 PM

ok dk, enjoy

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 01:45 PM

lol Fos.

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 01:46 PM

PamB,

Before we went into Iraq, I thought it was a bad idea. I had no idea, the magnitude of the mistake. In terms of loss of life, national prestige/credibility, money, time, and other forgone opportunities to which those resources could have been devoted, the cost cannot be quantified. It must be difficult for the media, because you have to figure out what to report... It probably didn't even occur to them that while they are informing the nation about the galactically STUPID ideas proposed by the GOP to fix the nation's oil problems, it might do some good to mention that the oil pipelines in iraq have been blown up hundreds of times since the beginning of the war...

I just think it's interesting they mention Iran and Nigeria but not Iraq. In terms of raw lost production, Iraq is the bigger drain. It's lost production at least twice the size of Nigeria's... and Iran has not YET used oil as weapon as to this latest standoff...

I wish I could go back to 2000 and campaign harder for Gore.. I'm relatively young so I did not realize a president could make so many ill-conceived decisions. I'm just amazed. I mean, I would have to intentionally try in order to be a worse president than Bush. Out of 300 million people, there's no way I should be the president, but I could a much better job than the one we have. It's frustrating. I'm also amazed that over 30% of the populous still supports him.

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Kev on April 30, 2006 at 01:46 PM

omg hilarious, colbert just used some sicilian gestures toward scalia

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 01:49 PM

I'm saving my anger for Detroit auto and corrupt politicians.

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pee-wee on April 30, 2006 at 01:50 PM

wow, colbert has done the most vicious bit of satire i have ever seen.

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gregg on April 30, 2006 at 01:53 PM

brilliant wasn't it gregg! woohoo!

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 01:59 PM

Jen

Immigrants contribute $240 billion to our Gross National Product every year, including contributing $7 billion in Social Security annually. They contribute to the U.S. economy $25 billion more than they receive in healthcare and other social services.

Your source doesn't state where the numbers come from.

I would recommend to everyone who is opposed to illegal immigration write down the names of businesses that close Monday and forward them to congressmen and senators who oppose amnesty. Chances are these people who close their businesses support the hiring of illegal aliens.

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Tom_Terrific on April 30, 2006 at 02:05 PM

A little more attention to Rush because I'm not ready for this to be over yet


We're going to let you destroy your life. We're going to make it easy and then all of us who accept the responsibilities of life and don't destroy our lives on drugs, we'll pay for whatever messes you get into."
-- Rush Limbaugh show, Dec. 9, 1993

"I'm appalled at people who simply want to look at all this abhorrent behavior and say people are going to do drugs anyway let's legalize it. It's a dumb idea. It's a rotten idea and those who are for it are purely 100 percent selfish."
-- Rush Limbaugh show, Dec 9, 1993

"If (Surgeon General Jocelyn Elders) wants to legalize drugs, send the people who want to do drugs to London and Zurich, and let's be rid of them.
-- Rush Limbaugh show, Dec 9, 1993

"There's nothing good about drug use. We know it. It destroys individuals. It destroys families. Drug use destroys societies. Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up.
"What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use. Too many whites are getting away with drug sales. Too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too."
-- Rush Limbaugh show, Oct. 5, 1995

(Source: Conspiracy Planet)

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jen on April 30, 2006 at 02:06 PM

OMG!

I'm back.Did I miss anything?

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