Wednesday Open Thread
What I'm Reading This Morning:
- Blow the Whistle, Loudly
- Former Ney Aide Testifies
- More Splits in House GOP Ranks
- They "Really Wanted Laura"
Comments (331) «
al gore calls bushco..." a renegade band of right wing extremists"....right the f_ _ _ on al!
WELL, here is what you are reading this morning.
You probably don't give a shit what happens to me, But I'm the one that fuel prices put out of business. So now there repo'ing my truck this week and today their cutting off my phone. At 61 years old it is hard to find a job no one wants a old man working for them. Just think one day this could happen to YOU
Fred
www.fredwilkes.blogspot.com
Why can't we mind our own business?
Posted by SandyH on May 31, 2006 at 10:05 AM
GOOD question Sandy!! Thank Goodness SOME of us can!! I think it may be catching on too!
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Greg, I was glad to read that about the Chicks being #1
They deserve it for being HONEST and speaking TRUTH to POWER!!! I hope the redpukes actually LISTEN to the words from their music! And maybe take those damn nasty flags off the backs of their gas hogs & suv windows!
Posted by Dawnie on May 31, 2006 at 10:20 AM
Posted by dogbroke on May 31, 2006 at 10:17 AM
Sorry to hear that and I'm sure it may not matter to you that you are not alone.
if our marines are charged in haditha massacre, charge george bush, dick cheney, and donald rumsfield with war crimes! the buck stops at the top. they obliterated the pottery rule. impeachment is too light a sentence. if america doesn't have the guts to try these 3 whacos occupying the whitehouse, then relinguish them to an international court...and too a trial held in a court in haditha...haditha doesn't have a viable court? no problem, hold the trial in the open street.
"a renegade band of rightwing extremists"
It appears that Sennenbrener agrees with Al Gore for maybe the first time?
I just love this picture of Bob & Friends...this in a paper out of the 18th Congressional District here in OH. HAVA more fun all the time. (pos! ruined democracy!!!)
“We had a champion in Congress who had already agreed to attach other provisions to that bill, and it was moving,” Volz said, referring to an election-reform bill that Ney sponsored.
“Who was that champion?” asked federal prosecutor Nathaniel Edmonds.
“Congressman Ney,” Volz responded.
dogbroke,
sorry to hear. and, yes i do care. it hurts reading your post. america should be taking care of its own. americans 1st. my sugggestion would help, but will not happen. leave iraq or sieze the wealthy repubs assets for their debacle, starting with the assets of kingbush, shotgun-dick, and rum-the-lier, and rove-the-spinner...they are the benefactors. the taxpayers are the losers, including the blood and flesh of our finest.
Posted by SandyH on May 31, 2006 at 10:33 AM
I'll still never forgive Senselessbrenner for turning the mic off (and house lights) on John Conyers!!
He's a hideous man who's as smug as they get over this latest breach of the constitution (all for show no doubt as Cheney is hiding much via his pawn Jefferson)
I can't wait to see if Gonzalez will uncover the truth after he reads all that info on the hard drive of Jefferson's computer. The parts where it says Halliburton got some big contract in Africa thanks to Cheney and Jefferson's help.
Oh wait didn't Cheney make GW halt all that investigation (while they supposedly cool down) or in otherwords while the breach is repaired and the info disappears into some back room in cheney's office? While Jefferson being a pawn goes to jail?
Yea that sounds about right.
I care what happens to a 61-year-old whose business got screwed by the high fuel prices. I'm not far behind you, Fred. I know 30 somethings facing layoff who now say their 5-year career plans now include becoming a greeter at a Walmart someday.
What do we do when bankrupcies gets to be an epidemic? Are they going to throw all the baby boomers in debtors prisons? Send all the younger ones off to Syria or Iran with radiation suits? When do we join the Vietnam vets on skid row?
It's time to Restore America not the Middle East.
Time to bring home the troops and get serious about alternative fuels....make the rich pay for their little experiement in outsourcing American jobs and importing cheap foreign laborers and Asian creditors.
gotta run...while I still can afford using my car.
later.
20 bux and it only gave me 3/4 of a tank!!!
I hear you Sandy and I'm back out myself.
6am was wayyyyy too early for this night owl to open her lids! Maybe a nappy later.
Peace ALL!
Posted by Dawnie on May 31, 2006 at 10:37 AM
I'll never forgive Ty Cobb for being such a bigoted bastard...but he did his job on the field. We need to preserve this republic until we can get back control of Congress. If we have to rely on the likes of Sennenbrener, well, we have to.
I don't think any of us understand how close we are to the edge of a dictatorship in the country. Domingo said that last night and he's right.
I love Conyers, too. He reminds me on one of my uncles. But he doesn't have the power to stop them right now.
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Morning {{Dems}}
Fred, I hate like anything to hear what's going on in your life, man. My better half and I are just now coming out of 3 years of un-/under-employment. Sleeping in a pickup with 3 dogs is not the most pleasant accommodations Ive ever had :(
I'll be 49 in a couple of weeks and know what you mean about nobody wanting mature workers. American companies either want "interns" who will work like dogs for free or to pay you half of what you're worth. I'm making less than half what I was 6 years ago, myself.
Wish we were closer, man. Our hearts ache for your troubles. You've given us one more good reason to kick elephant arse.
dogbroke,
i know that humor will not help. but in the light of your situtation, this is what i posted last night. i coudn't have made this up.
"stopped at my station yesterday to fill up...then only put in $25. i'll drive less. while looking at the pump, someone had written using a permanent marker scrolled on the pump "f...you bush." i mentioned that to the attendant inside and he said, yep, he's been getting a lot of heat and he has nothing to do with it. nor, did he go out and clean off the pump. says something about the person who wrote it and the attendant...tells me they think the same way."
We need to get stickers/banners/flyers at every gas station "thanking King George". The $50 I put in last night will last only a week for me. Get it into the people's heads that when they checked the Bush box on the ballot in 2000 and 2004, they were voting for outrageous gas prices.
America1st, we had a piece on the local news the other night about the flack that station attendents are taking for the high gas prices. One local station started flying the Jolly Rodger in protest of being ripped off by the big oil companies and another station posted on one of their signs
Unleaded - arm
Premium Unlead - leg
Last summer Shell put the squeeze on one of the local stations because they wanted to force her to break her contract and take over her station so they spread out her fuel deliveries to the point they eventually put her completely out of business.
These are the FOB's (Friend's of Bush) that continue to sky rocket to the top on the backs of those that have fallen under their weight.
Fred,
As a 59 yr old, I understand where you're coming from. My husband was out of work three years ago for 6 months before he found a job. He is making 1/2 of what he was before he lost his other job due to downsizing. I blame all of this on the greed that has taken over this country and the Republicans who control that greed. I live in an area where the median wage is well over $100,000/yr and they ALL vote Republican thus, a very red county.
They have no compassion, they think if you're not rich, you didn't try hard enough. They are the epitome of the Republican State of the Have More's - Bush's base.
I'm sick of it!
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED:
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki declared Wednesday a month-long state of emergency in Basra, where violence has erupted in recent weeks among rival Shiite factions fighting for control of its rich oil resources, and sectarian tensions remain high.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/05/31/iraq.main/index.html
Blue, it is now close to $75.00 to fill up our large family car, thankfully we drive it only close to home and to run errands that require the kids come with so a tank of gas will last a little over two weeks.
This has definitely stopped many of the things we would have done like trips to see the family in Cd'A and even short day trips to the city. All fun family activities are weighed against the expense of driving and I have actually turned down job interviews because it would require I drive to work rather than having mass transit options.
No wonder Bush refuses to do anything to get ready for nature diasters...it's far more profitable to clean up than protect. While they are busy doling out cash to their no bid contractors they refuse to help those with homes there rebuild.
Contractors rake it in as they clean it up
Unleaded - arm
Premium Unlead - leg
Kristen,
yes, i'm sure we'll be seeing more of this. i guess i wasn't surprised by the attendant's attitude that someone had scrolled "f... you bush" on his pump. the scary part is if we pasted pictures of bush thanking us on behalf of his oil cronies on pumps, we'd have a consumers clobbering the pictures and the pumps... not good for the stations or the fire depts.
Posted by america1st on May 31, 2006 at 12:05 PM
So few to do the clobbering now, I'm not worried. Even those that claim to support him are pissed.
Carry a "sharpie"..."HAD ENOUGH?" scrawled on everything people can see ... add "Vote Democrat" if there's room.
AP) - OLYMPIA, Wash.-Police fired pepper spray as about 150 anti-war protesters tried to enter the Port of Olympia amid demonstrations against the shipment of Army equipment to Iraq. Twenty-two people were arrested Tuesday, officials said.
All of those arrested were taken to Thurston County Jail for investigation of criminal trespassing. No one was seriously injured, sheriff's Capt. Brad Watkins said.
http://news.findlaw.com/ap/o/632/05-31-2006/5e83000f6435d6be.html
it is now close to $75.00 to fill up our large family car
kristen,
that's why i only put in $25 and vowed to drive less. it is no concidence that the price of gas has skyrocketed as the oil profits rise while the situation with oil producing countries vs the unted states becomes more strained by kingbush. keep in mind, our kingbush distanced us from cuba also...then china does an oil deal w/cuba. kingbush threatens iran, and iraq meets one-on-one w/iran, then the issue of iraqi oil...paying it's own way? what a sham ... and we taxpayers pay the price for all kingbush's motorcade of gas hogs on their way to another bushphoto op.
america1st, I've decided to fill it up and drive it less, that way I'm only going once every 2 weeks, we haven't found away for my husband to get around driving since he works construction and is constantly changing job sites but we do carpool as much as possible with him even taking me to the morning train on his way to work.
As for Bush's motorcades, the foolish would be King is coming to our state soon to fund raise for Reichert. This absolutely kills me since we pay for these fundraising junkets (heavy on the workd JUNK). It is time the campaign's pick up the tab for these things, but I'm sure they would realize he costs them more than he gives them, but then we already knew that!
kristen.
i'd suspect that if kingbush's motorcades had to pay their own gas, they'd do a squeeze on the independent stations to cut them a deal or else the companies that supply the independents would cut off the supplies or raise the costs on the independents. there is nothing this corrupt adm wouldn't do.
Unraveling ‘Team Abramoff’s’ strategy
The Abramoff team sent Ney partially filled out draft financial disclosure forms for him to use in filing disclosures with Congress that falsely understated the total cost of the trip at $3,200, Volz testified.
“I thought that number passed the smell test,” Volz said, explaining that he hoped that reporters searching public records for travel abuses would pass right over it without asking questions.
In a statement, Ney’s spokesman, Brian J. Walsh, said, “Congressman Ney filed exactly what his office was told to be the cost of the trip ... what every other member who has taken a privately funded trip has done for years.”
The better way is Z TEAM!
No gifts from lobbyist!!!
MSNBC News Services
Updated: 13 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - President Bush said Wednesday he was troubled by allegations that U.S. Marines had killed unarmed Iraqi civilians and that, “if in fact laws were broken, there will be punishment.”
does this include a war tribunal for mr bush, mr. cheney, and mr. rumsfield as accessories for this massacre? mr bush did in fact break laws...besides the colin powel's pottery principle...correction, he obliterated it.
ok all, have to leave this enlightened place for now. return later. keep the spotlight on kingbush and the corrupt court of jesters.
This is insane!
I know this seems unimportant in light of bring the troops home, and everything else and the human suffering and the gas prices, but this just makes my insides hurt on top of everything else (the ducks arent even safe) I love to watch ducks.
Do we really need Duck Liver?
call all the congress now - lets get this over with - Call Gov Pataki's office
Force feeding ducks for 10 times the normal size livers that sell gourmet for $110.00 for 2 pounds. I'm sorry but that is too painful to think about even for a Duck.
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=66659
When Governer George Pataki awarded a $420,000 grant of taxpayer money to Hudson Valley Foie Gras http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000DCWM0/102-3479448-6289720?v=glance&n=3370831
Domingo
everything in The Turner Diaries is all the same stuff the "Driftwood boys" keep saying in here.
At first I was going to just ignore your post and chalk it up as misguided. But on second thought, Driftwood and I need to call it what it is.
You Domingo, are a BOLD FACE LIAR. Driftwood nor I have read the Turner Diaries, even though we did hear them discussed in the McVeigh trial. For you to drop this unjustified label on us is not only ignorant, racist, and self serving, but a disgrace to the 1st Amendment, and an attempt to remove pragmatic considerations from the debate on illegal immigration.
Once again I will state, we support legal immigration while opposing illegal immigration. The cost for your agenda will remove badly needed funding for elderly and poor Americans and give it to illegal immigrants. You support amnesty for SS fraud and could seem to care less about whether your agenda is sustainable.
I don’t see any value in you keeping this a “hot button” topic until the US House starts its reconciliation with the Senate bill.
Sorry Momo! I know you like Domingo, but he is more than just wrong here.
Bruce Schneier: We're giving up privacy and getting little in return.Better to put people, not computers, in charge of investigating potential plots.
Bruce Schneier
Published: May 31, 2006
(snip).......Just in the United States, there are trillions of connections between people and events -- things that the data-mining system will have to "look at" -- and very few plots. This rarity makes even accurate identification systems useless.
Let's look at some numbers. We'll be optimistic -- we'll assume the system has a one in 100 false-positive rate (99 percent accurate), and a one in 1,000 false-negative rate (99.9 percent accurate). Assume 1 trillion possible indicators to sift through: that's about 10 events -- e-mails, phone calls, purchases, Web destinations, whatever -- per person in the United States per day. Also assume that 10 of them actually indicate terrorists plotting.
This unrealistically accurate system will generate 1 billion false alarms for every real terrorist plot it uncovers. Every day, the police will have to investigate 27 million potential plots in order to find the one real terrorist plot per month. Clearly ridiculous
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So, we give up our privacy for what? If I believed inconspiracies....
Once again I will state, we support legal immigration while opposing illegal immigration. The cost for your agenda will remove badly needed funding for elderly and poor Americans and give it to illegal immigrants. You support amnesty for SS fraud and could seem to care less about whether your agenda is sustainable.
Posted by Bruno on May 31, 2006 at 12:57 PM
I whole heartedly agree with you here.
(This will be an interesting dialog to read, too bad I'm headed to the big city and won't catch up until tomorrow night. yes, I do have a big wooden spoon)
;p
move our troops to protect our own borders.
Posted by theo on May 31, 2006 at 01:16 PM
Inertia happened.
Common sense would have been to bomb the hell out of Afghanistan/binladen, and protect the mother land.
Let the Iraqis fight for their own freedom.
For anyone interested, New York's Court of Appeals, the end of the road for all New York cases, is having a hearing on the Same Sex Marriage Lawsuits and will be broadcasting a live Webcast at 2 pm Eastern time. You can view it here if you wish to see it.
Let the Iraqis fight for their own freedom.
Posted by Esmeralda on May 31, 2006 at 01:22 PM
They wouldn't be fighting if we hadn't destroyed the fragile balance that was there.
Don't ya feel bad for him? It just breaks my heart.
Treasury Nominee Faces a Change in Pay and Control
If confirmed, Henry M. Paulson Jr.'s salary would drop by about $29.8 million and he would lose authority over $700 million in Goldman stock.
Posted by theo on May 31, 2006 at 01:16 PM
If you still "don't know", then maybe this will help you make up your mind:
http://peacetakescourage.cf.huffingtonpost.com/animations/wwjd.html
Posted by Kristen on May 31, 2006 at 01:27 PM
No they wouldn't be. I'm sure they were surpressed...they could have uprisen on their own if they wanted out from under Saddam Hussein.
And if "we the people" vote repug/corrupt dems this fall, we might as well be in the same boat.
Time to take a nap. I've a long drive ahead of me.
Enjoy the afternoon, everyone.
Posted by Bruno on May 31, 2006 at 12:57 PM
Why do you call Domingo a bald faced liar? I went back to see what post you were refering to and nowhere in the post did Domingo say that you actually read these Turner Diaries, but he simply stated that the diaries were similar to the same thing you and your crew keep repeating. I know that you may feel it was inferred that you had read it, but it doesn't say anything of the sort. Or is it that you are embarrassed that some of your rhetoric is highly revered by hate groups? I am just asking because to call someone a liar for saying something that was true is odd. It would be different if Domingo had actually said that you lifted your views from those documents, but he didn't. He simply stated the fact that the views in those Diaries was similar to those views that you express.
This email is to alert you to a new project: The Alachua Project - which
seeks to bring democracy to the City of Alachua and to expose and remove
the corrupt practices plaguing that city.
There is a website where you can find out what is going on and participate:
Please stop by.
Also of note - the Alachua County Republican Party, with the official
sanction of the Republican Executive Committee, has now launched its own
registraton-based site. It openly admits that it is behind this site and
endorses and sponsors it. This was confirmed this morning by Republican
Chairman Stafford Jones.
This site can be found at http://thetruthabouttheala.blogspot.com
What is clear is who has been authoring the numerous "anonymous" attacks
on other local sites in recent months - as it is the same tone and style
(as well as content) as has been seen there.
Stafford Jones explicitly stated to State Candidate Charlie Grapski this
morning that the Alachua County Republican Party has decided to "draw a
line in the sand" on the issue of the City of Alachua. Alachua, according
to the GOP official, is a "model" city which should be followed throughout
Alachua County. What the ALA and the Alachua Project, as well as Grapski
and others, have challenged as being inappropriate, unethical, and illegal
are instead portrayed by the local Republican Party as "pro-job,
pro-family" governance.
They have drawn the line in the sand - and declared that all should take
sides on that line. Its another "You're either with us or against us"
moment. And they have clearly defined which side of that line the
Republican Party stands on. Where do you stand?
Sandy H-
If you are out there, I have a book for you to add to your list:
WHAT GOD WANTS by Neale Donald Walsch
It's a very dangerous piece of writing and has the possibility to change the world. It has changed my life.
PEACE
Burnsey
I went back to see what post you were refering to and nowhere in the post did Domingo say that you actually read these Turner Diaries,
I didn't say that Domingo said we read them, I was pointing that out by declaring we have never read the diaries.
Let me point it out more clearly for you.
everything in The Turner Diaries is all the same stuff the "Driftwood boys" keep saying in here.
Turner Diaries author William Pierce tried to promote his vision of a whites-only homeland and a government free of "non-Aryan influence.
To insinuate that Driftwood, Billy Bob, Tom, and I are advocating or saying this position is a Bold Face Lie. Pierce never supported legal immigration, we do.
rebuilding the American Dream
Posted by Thomas_Paine1776 on May 31, 2006 at 02:14 PM
And there in print is one great Democratic Party slogan....
It reminds me of "daybreak in America", if I remember it correctly, that was used for Reagan.
Posted by Burnsey on May 31, 2006 at 01:56 PM
Thanks, Burnsey.
That's what I was looking for...a book that could change all of our lives...even the ones's who think they have all the answers.
I'm tired of re-hashing the past. I want to work toward something again...not just drive out the barbarians.
Bruno,
We have all been stoned from time to time on this blog. I was driven away for making (I can now admit to myself was a pretty unfeeling, smug remark) off-hand comment about Paul Wellstone. I was lynched, burned at the stake...and then I realized I didn't care. And neither should you.
I knew I didn't do anything wrong. You know you are right with yourself. So let it go.
We all come here from different perspectives. That's what I find interesting. I'm surprised every day by how strongly some people feel about some things I take for granted. You can broaden your horizons or limit them.
Here's a secret: I sometimes say things that aren't true. Don't bother to check my facts on purpose. Just want to make my point. I just can't help myself when I'm on a roll. I'm not perfect and I like it that way.
Posted by Bruno on May 31, 2006 at 02:53 PM
Too wordy IMO. FWIW, I don't believe anyone else on this blog would compare your rants to the Turner Diaries. They would be wrong.
Budget reprise reveals how fiscal times have changed
Democrats have talked for a couple of years about unveiling their own version of the “Contract With America” before Election Day, mimicking the strategy Republicans used in 1994 to capture the House.
But Republicans seem largely to have renounced the Contract. Many conservatives believe the party’s evolution of beliefs has led to the GOP’s political troubles today: low poll numbers and growing fear that Democrats may regain power.
I sometimes say things that aren't true. Don't bother to check my facts on purpose. Just want to make my point. I just can't help myself when I'm on a roll. I'm not perfect and I like it that way.
Posted by SandyH on May 31, 2006 at 02:53 PM
You mean that you tell stories? ;)
Posted by Bruno on May 31, 2006 at 02:19 PM
That makes a better argument than just saying someone is a bald faced liar, IMO. Saying what the Diaries (which I had never heard of) say and how you do not agree with them makes your argument for you better than just calling someone a liar. I agree that you have not stated the opinions as laid out in the Turner Diaries, and thank you for the clarification. I appreciate that. As you know, I agree with you on many of the issues surrounding Illegal Immigration, I just don't talk about it here so much because it causes such consternation. But that's just me. THANKS.
Here are nine of the most important questions the Supreme Court will confront in June, the last month of its term.
The truth out? ok, so I'm laughing over this article.
On Wednesday we were treated to a jaw-dropping Bill Frist puff piece by Washington Post writer Laura Blumenfield, who followed the politician and heart surgeon into a National Zoo operating room as he performed an operation on a gorilla named Kuja. Her breathless reporting describes the surgeon's "hairy arms" and the odor of gorilla testosterone. She fantasizes about the stanky hormone clinging to the Senate majority leader as he presides over the Senate later in the day as its top "silverback" gorilla.
I wish these air conditioning guys would get the job done, I want to head north.
Looking on the bright side, I'll keep reading news.
New Orleans Sinking Faster Than Expected
Parts of New Orleans are sinking far more rapidly than scientists first thought, more than an inch a year, new research suggests.
Posted by martys58 on May 31, 2006 at 03:36 PM
Back away from Bill O'Leily and Faux News and pick up a book, preferrably a dictionary.
change that to preferably
serves me right for my catty comment to marty...
Posted by Kristen on May 31, 2006 at 03:46 PM
Do you think he knows that there is a "war" in Iraq? Oh never mind, probably not.
U.S. Sets Conditions for Talks With Iran
hey Esmeralda,
this is the problem...setting conditions before talks. remember recently the iranian leader extended a diplomatic letter and our arrogant hell bent on war kingbush rejected it. that, was an opening, eventhough the letter was critical...diplomatic courtesy, which is lacking with the bush nuthouse in washington, should have accepted the letter as an opening to dialogue. kingbush already, not the iranian leader, overseas is perceived as the boggie man. add to this, the other day iraq met with iran one-on-one to discuss just this issue. the same iraq (mission accomplished) that we are still quagmired in over are heads in blood and money. so, this extension to talk w/conditions is another way for conniving rice to say...see we tried, but they were not interested...another spin, another sham, and another potential war that we can ill afford, nor would the world support. come on folks, we're already isolated no thanks to kingbush and his court of arrogant jesters. i'd sense that real diplomacy and world peace is not in america's immediate future.
Hey Blue, I was just reading that it looks like the 'stolen' VA data encompasses more than was first thought and includes including phone numbers and addresses. What is really strange to me is that while there was a 'burglar' there has been no mention of anything else being taken from his home.
While I'm not a big tin foil hat person, I can't help but wonder if this guy had told the burglar where to look.
Posted by Kristen on May 31, 2006 at 03:56 PM
There are some interesting facts to this case. Interesting that one of the people involved was a former chair of the republican party, iirc.
Hmmmm. Makes me want to shake a vet and say "wake up!. You swift boated the wrong guy!"
No wonder Bush refuses to do anything to get ready for nature diasters...it's far more profitable to clean up than protect. While they are busy doling out cash to their no bid contractors they refuse to help those with homes there rebuild.
Contractors rake it in as they clean it up
Posted by Kristen on May 31, 2006 at 11:57 AM
I'll bet that that a**hole Trent Lott got his house fixed up at taxpayer expense in record time. I emailed him and asked him that question when it was reported that people in Mississippi were not getting their houses repaired. I don't even live in Mississippi. No response of course.
Posted by Kristen on May 31, 2006 at 03:56 PM
Did you know that the person who took home the computer that was stolen was a former head of the RNC either nationally or at a state level, I can't recall which. Just another bit of info I found interesting in that case.
If Nancy Pelosi wants to be Speaker for the new majority, and she wants good jobs in California, then focus on good jobs in Michigan Pennsylvania, and Ohio. The Democrats need the Midwest to be the new Majority.
Start talking about an E85 mandate and the size based CAFE rule. These are issues that matter to Midwestern voters.
Posted by Thomas_Paine1776 on May 31, 2006 at 03:58 PM
My older brother is working to clean up the mess from Katrina. He said he has years of work, and that it stinks down there. I've seen the pictures he sent home. Not a pretty site. I don't know how much he is getting paid, but it sure beats having no work here in OH.
Good afternoon, everyone.
Posted by Thomas_Paine1776 on May 31, 2006 at 02:14 PM
Posted by BlueinIdaho on May 31, 2006 at 02:29 PM
Thomas Paine/Blue,
I like that "rebuilding"/"restoring" language. It's like saying let's create something great again.
I also think reminding people that America was once an Impossible Dream sort-of-place...and could be again...doesn't hurt. It's been a long time since we've had any good news.
The Republicans have mandated that we can only be successful as a country by adopting unrealistic goals and ideals of perfection.
It's a bunch of malarkey. Perfection? No wonder they have fallen on their faces so badly.
Now that their strategy has failed in every conceivable way (domestically and overseas), we're left with a pretty battered and bruised national image that we don't really deserve. People need some encouragement that isn't just another publicity stunt or propaganda.
So let's not do it. Instead, let's ask Americans to start acting like Americans again.
Ask them to quit blaming scapetgoats for all their troubles. Face the future with God at our side not at our back. Start taking those baby steps necessary to solve our problems instead of praying for an answer.
That is what made America great. Not a lot of fictional models of propriety and piety. We work hard and we play hard as a people. We have never been saints.
Let's regain that rough, tough, and tumble attitude toward life. That's the American way...the American spirit. That's where our good ole yankee ingenuity and confederate pride comes from. We can move mountains when we are challenged.
Why have the Republicans tried to make us ashamed of our heritage and culture? It's that unpolished, unappologetic spirit that got our ancesters across the oceans, over the Rockies, and all the way to the moon.
But that national spirit had been muzzled by the Repubicans. They want us to be afraid and divided. There is something really unnatural about it all...sick in some way.
Why would any American political party knowingly cripple their own country? Why have did they make us fail?
So this is our message:
America doesn't wait.
Americans make their own destiny. And that destiny is to achieve everything we set out to do. No more Republican excuses or failures.
Americans aren't waiting for another president in '09 to solve our problems. We begin fixing them now...by electing a Democratic Congress this fall.
that is sugar cane, supposedly burns cleaner and less affect on the atmosphere,
Posted by Kristen on May 31, 2006 at 03:46 PM
Kristen may I borrow your dictionary, (I cant seem to spell,)(not good at typing either)
Posted by Esmeralda on May 31, 2006 at 03:06 PM
I been known to tell whoppers. Best stories come from the heart not the mind.
Get ready for a shakier ride for the enconomy
How did this company get in bed with the government? Interest question for research.
Everyone thinks Fannie Mae is the Govt.
"Facts on Fannie's fraud"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20060531/cm_usatoday/factsonfanniesfraud
Strip him of all assets, go to prison, (no get out free pass) for a long, long, long, long time.
Theo, I'll try and find some articles on it, I have read that the corn ethanol is more harmful to the atmosphere, true better than fossil fuel.
Did you know that the person who took home the computer that was stolen was a former head of the RNC either nationally or at a state level, I can't recall which. Just another bit of info I found interesting in that case.
Posted by Burnsey on May 31, 2006 at 04:21 PM
Hey Blue, I was just reading that it looks like the 'stolen' VA data encompasses more than was first thought and includes including phone numbers and addresses. What is really strange to me is that while there was a 'burglar' there has been no mention of anything else being taken from his home.
While I'm not a big tin foil hat person, I can't help but wonder if this guy had told the burglar where to look.
Posted by Kristen on May 31, 2006 at 03:56 PM
This case sounds like a Watergate moment. The repugs are great at breaking in and stealing things. I'll bet Rove is at the bottom of it.
Posted by Esmeralda on May 31, 2006 at 03:22 PM
And this is why the MSM and the Republicans deserve each other. I've often wondered why many of them act like people wearing gorrila suits intead of rationale human beings. It's apparently a common fantasy in the Beltway.
Next time I see one of them on the tube, I'll close my eyes and imagine.
Actually, I always loved those Three Stooge comedies where they are being chased around by a guy in a gorrila suit. I also like the haunted house segments. Real high-brow entertainment.
Parliament demanded prosecution of U.S. soldiers involved in a deadly road crash that sparked Kabul's worst unrest since the Taliban's downfall, and President Bush spoke Wednesday with the Afghan leader and pledged a full investigation.
Accidents usually occurred when the driver is not focused on the driving. When a person is under enormous stress, their driving ability is decreased.
Iran's official news agency says U.S. offer on talks was "a propaganda move."
"Given the insistence by Iranian authorities on continuing uranium enrichment, Rice's comments can be considered a propaganda move," IRNA said.
Posted by dk2 on May 31, 2006 at 04:46 PM
Check out the Apollo Alliance.
This case sounds like a Watergate moment. The repugs are great at breaking in and stealing things. I'll bet Rove is at the bottom of it.
Posted by dumpw on May 31, 2006 at 04:46 PM
I think that Gonzales raid at the Hill qualifies as a Watergate moment, too. They already had enough evidence against Jefferson. What did they really want to get from the Congressional computers?
Actually, I always loved those Three Stooge comedies where they are being chased around by a guy in a gorrila suit. I also like the haunted house segments. Real high-brow entertainment.
Posted by SandyH on May 31, 2006 at 04:47 PM
Do you think they poke at the eyes and bop each other on the head in Congressional hearings?
Rice's comments can be considered a propaganda move," IRNA said.
Posted by PeppermintLizzy on May 31, 2006 at 04:49 PM
Takes one to know one.
Posted by dumpw on May 31, 2006 at 04:55 PM
Only in closed sessions...or when they go over to the White House for a meeting with the Chimp.
Posted by dk2 on May 31, 2006 at 04:46 PM
Here is another energy independence site that has a petition to be signed.
Posted by dk2 on May 31, 2006 at 04:28 PM
dk2, The following is part of a letter I sent to my Senator, Bingaman some time ago.
"By using Ethanol and Methanol, we can put our farmers to work instead of paying them not to farm and we can spread the wealth by putting Hawaii and Puerto Rico to work growing sugar cane again. We can also put Central America and Mexico to work growing sugar cane instead of Opium and whatever other drugs they produce. It's a win win situation. This could also help the illegal immigration problem we are currently facing."
I understand that sugar cane can also be grown in the southeast.
Posted by dumpw on May 31, 2006 at 04:14 PM
I think he was having the same trouble as everyone else on the Gulf. The insurance company didn't want to pay. Said he had flood damage not storm damage. How could anyone tell the difference after a Category 4/5?
Posted by theo on May 31, 2006 at 04:34 PM
Brazil's ethanol yields nearly eight times as much energy as corn-based options, according to scientific data.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/10/world/americas/10brazil.html?ex=1302321600&en=03adc82c67600388&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt
"Our energy balance is so favorable not just because we have high yields, but also because we don't use any fossil fuels to process the cane, which is not the case with corn."
"In the past, the residue left when cane stalks are compressed to squeeze out juice was discarded. Today, Brazilian sugar mills use that residue to generate the electricity to process cane into ethanol, and use other byproducts to fertilize the fields where cane is planted."
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/10/world/americas/10brazil.html?pagewanted=2&ei=5088&en=03adc82c67600388&ex=1302321600&partner=rssnyt
Posted by dumpw on May 31, 2006 at 05:10 PM
good letter,
thanks for your help.
Posted by dk2 on May 31, 2006 at 05:11 PM
Thanks for the research. Sugar cane looks very promising what with all the spinoffs. I think we use petroleum to produce some fertilizers. If we can use the sugar cane byproducts instead that would be great. During WWI the Germans developed a process to extract Nitrogen from the air.
All we need to do now is prod our congresspersons to do something about it.
Forget china worry about walmart!
Bill Katovsky: Meet Moses of the Anti-Wal-Mart Movement: Al Norman, a.k.a. "Mr. Sprawl-Busters"
Close to 7.5 cents of every retail dollar spent in this country is funneled into Wal-Mart's coffers. Its revenues constitute 2.5 percent of America's GNP
http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20060531/cm_huffpost/021890
dumpw: Brazil is even putting it to use for home heat by putting electricity in to their grids.
dk2: We need to email our congresspersons and demand that the US drop their $0.54 tariff on imported Ethanol. Lobbying by oil companies probably resulted in the tariff. This has to change. Congress needs to stimulate the installation of Ethanol fuel pumps at all gas stations nationwide. Currently we have only one station in New Mexico that carries E85 Ethanol.
Robert Scheer: Bush Links Energized Enron
">http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20060531/cm_huffpost/021916">
http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20060531/cm_huffpost/021916
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20060530_robert_scheer_enron_bush_lay/
Robert Scheer: Bush Links Energized Enron
(click on enron)
and click on: Ken Lay
Sorry dont know what happened above.
(NSA doesnt like me.)
dumpw
We need to email our congresspersons and demand that the US drop their $0.54 tariff on imported Ethan
I believe the idea here is not to import anything.
You can help and buy stock in the future at the same time. Earth Biofuels
Coin dealer admits illegal donations
"A coin dealer and prominent GOP fundraiser at the center of an Ohio political scandal pleaded guilty Wednesday to federal charges he illegally funneled donations to President Bush's re-election campaign"
How do I know the pugs are lying?
Their lips are moving and their nose is getting longer!
Posted by dk2 on May 31, 2006 at 05:42 PM
I didn't realize that the whole bush crime family and administrations were involved in raping California. I sensed it at the time when king bush, jr. did nothing for us.
Senator Barbara Boxer Wants Troops Out of Iraq By Year's End . . .
The latest reporting by the pugs on faux, Carter got money from Bin Ladin Group. Therefore why should Bush get slammed from helping the Bin Ladin Group.
Here is why Bush should get slammed for aiding and abeding the Bin Ladin Group.
1) The Bin Ladin Group were associated with the Ford administration, Paul woof, rummy, xheney were all part of Ford Administration. They catered to Bin Ladin to help curb the Islamic fundamentalist in Afganistan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Iran!!
2) During the Carter Administration the Bin Labin Groups relationship and foriegn policy towards keeping an open channel with the people in the region ment keeping a relationship with the Bin Ladin Group. During the Carter adminstration the Osama Bin Ladin was not identified as a terrorist.
3) The Bush administration continue to support he Bin Ladin group when it was known that Osama Bin Ladin was "The Terrorist" responsible for multiple bombings of american installations around the world and was getting support from the Bin Ladin Group.
That's the difference between Bush and Carter. Carter inherited a policy from Ford administration with woof, xheney, rummy. Carter kept a channel open and negotiated some good pieces treaties in the middle east. Bush continue to do business with the Bin Ladin Group even after he knew they funneled money to Osama Bin Ladin and Bush administration knew Osama Bin Ladin bombed US installations around the world but continue to do business with Osama's money source. That is a tresonous act!
That's the difference and the Lie the pugs are attempting to portray!!!
Before I "cared" about politics I can remember coming home from school and my Dad would be sitting in front of the tube watching at least 3 different versions to get what he called "all the views" (cbs, nbc, abc usually, no faux news back then)
All I remember is being so sick of news!! I would turn it off or leave the house and go ride my horse or what ever.
This is what I think a large part of the nation is doing. Turning it off. As long as their lives are some what stable all they've got to complain about is the gas prices. (I remember that from the 70's as well)
That is really bothering me. Thinking about that. How many are only tuning in for a short time to hear something horrible and turning it back off. OR hearing ONLY someone like Chris Matthews tonight again on the HILLARY in 08 band wagon and his "is it for real" marriage.
If this is all the GP is getting then we are totally screwed!
How do you get someone to care about politics? Maybe that's like asking how do you get someone to quit smoking? You DON'T! They've got to come to that realization on their own.
It's a scary thought. Just sharing. I know most of you have been avid lovers of the game of politics for eons. I was not. Not that I shouldn't have been. I'm honest though and admit to missing a LOT of the strife.
Someone please tell me. Was it EVER EVER EVER this BAD???? (if so then I'm glad I missed it)
Evening
MSNBC Question of the Day (doh)
Do you think Sen. Clinton should run for President in '08? * 10634 responses
Yes
37%
No
63%
Will the appointment of a new Treasury Secretary improve public perception of the economy?
Yes 19%
No 81%
sigh
Someone please tell me. Was it EVER EVER EVER this BAD???? (if so then I'm glad I missed it)
Evening
Posted by Dawnie on May 31, 2006 at 06:38 PM
It started gettig bad when ronnie became governor of California. Then he became presidunce and it got worse. Remember we had woof, xheney, and rummy as part of all repug administrations starting with ronnie. No wonder we are in trouble It's going to continue to get worse until we vote these b******d repugs out of office.
Check posted by HybridFuel on May 31, 2006 at 06:08 PM
Check out military update - where we are around the world. (very lengthy)
May 31
DoD News Briefing with Brig. Gen. Ham
Presenter: Deputy Director for Regional Operations, Joint Chiefs of Staff, Brig. Gen. Carter Ham
http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2006/tr20060531-13150.html
Posted by dumpw on May 31, 2006 at 07:01 PM
I agree, Reagan started a major downfall.
He was not anyway near one of the best presidents as was label during his funeral, I couldnt even watch any of it on TV - made me sick to hear how he had been declared so wonderful. Yuck, yuck, yuck, gag, gag, gag, and then you can imagine the rest.
Remember, with the exception of king george the first, they were and are all chickenhawks. The only veteran was king george the first. He supposedly was a fighter pilot in WWII.
Posted by dumpw on May 31, 2006 at 07:01 PM
I think with the internet now we should have mid term evaluations of all of our politicians whether state or federal!
VOTE them out EARLY if they are corrupt! No matter what!
Posted by dk2 on May 31, 2006 at 07:08 PM
I couldn't stand to watch ronnies funeral either. chimp put it on like a coronation. He pissed away a lot of our money on this pompous funeral. What a horrible spectacle.
Posted by dumpw on May 31, 2006 at 07:08 PM
I am sure (as I served) there are as many corrupt military as there are civilians. With the exception of the memory of WAR, a rat is still a rat no matter if they have stripes or NONE at all.
Actually I knew more criminal types while I served than I ever met after. Just saying.
But I understand the lack of service thing and that they really have no right sending others to war w/out serving themselves first.
Posted by Dawnie on May 31, 2006 at 07:09 PM
Midterm evaluations might be a valuable tool. How about IQ tests for all candidates.
Oh, that reminds me, I wonder if chimp has sent his coloring books to his library yet. I am curious to know if he colors within the lines or he just scribbles.
Posted by dk2 on May 31, 2006 at 07:08 PM
chuckle @ yuckyuckgaggaggag chuckle
Posted by dumpw on May 31, 2006 at 07:16 PM\
oh HAIL yes I agree on the aptitude testing! As LONG as you can make sure they are not cheating in order to pass!
Liars, Crooks and Cheats know no other way to take a test!
Posted by Dawnie on May 31, 2006 at 07:13 PM
I was in the Army in Germany when the Russians built the Berlin wall. I joined the Army after college even though I had a deferrment and served a full three years. At that time (1959) we still had the draft. I received my discharge in 1965.
He supposedly was a fighter pilot in WWII.
Posted by dumpw on May 31, 2006 at 07:08 PM
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...Bush flew several miles from the island, where he and one other crew member on the TBM Avenger bailed out of the aircraft. However, the other man's parachute did not open, and he fell to his death. It was never determined which man bailed out with Bush. Both Delaney and White were killed in action. While Bush waited four hours in his inflated raft, several fighters circled protectively overhead until he was rescued by the lifeguard submarine U.S.S. Finback. For this action Bush received the Distinguished Flying Cross. During the month he remained on Finback, Bush helped rescue other pilots.
However, some people have expressed skepticism of the official story, asking if Bush bailed-out unnecessarily, causing the needless deaths of his crewmates. The primary witness against the official story are Charles Bynum and Chester Mierzejewski.[1][2]
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Posted by Dawnie on May 31, 2006 at 06:38 PM
It was pretty bad during the Vietnam War. The military draft made everyone get involved in politics.
I think the bleak jobs picture in the U.S. could be just as galvanizing. As middle class Americans start realizing their standard of living is dropping (or their children or grandchildren's) and is not going to recover, things could get pretty dicey.
I think a lot of the anger generated around illegal immigration is really middle class frustration with corporate America and the Republicans who have been allowing them to outsource and insource cheap labor at their expense. Those that voted for these bums can't yet admit they made a mistake.
But when they started going after Social Security you saw what happened. The middle class baby boomers drew a line. The Republicans are going to be forced to go after it again. By outsoucing good paying jobs, the fund is shrinking.
They young and old will come together like they did with Vietnam. Something ugly is developing. I wouldn't want to be an affluent American when it surfaces.
I guess it all comes down to shame. Some people just have NO shame!
Nothing bothers them. They never feel embarrassed by their actions. Some of it is generational I am aware of that. (like cussing)
But to not feel guilty for cheating on either a mate or a test or the extra 25 cents the clerk gave you that was too much...... and have no shame?
They are souL- Less. Plain as that I guess.
Posted by dumpw on May 31, 2006 at 07:22 PM
I was officially out in 83 (i think) lol
Gregg
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OH hEY DPD, Sandy, dk, dumpw, hybrid,
Nice reading you this evening! Thanks for joining me. :-}
dumpw
what were your thoughts back when the wall went up? And did they change after you grew up some?
My impressions are much different in many respects then from when I served. Having a past has a lot to do with it. Of course!
In our 20's we had barely a recollection of the night before. lol
Posted by DPD on May 31, 2006 at 07:39 PM
LOL thanks I needed a good laugh!
I wish they'd add Tucker, Scarborough, Matthews, Hughes, Kudlow, Blankley, Buchanan, Hitchens and a few more on that list though.........
The power of money.
Clean Air Watch: Bush EPA Ignores Science - and Recent Developments - in Reaffirming Pro-Industry Mercury Rule
"This is a classic case of the Bush administration harming the environment by currying favor with a powerful special interest - the coal-burning electric power industry. This decision means power companies can continue to pump this poison into the air for many extra years, unless states take swifter cleanup action," O'Donnell noted."
...Pauline Robinson Bush (December 20, 1949 Compton, California – October 11, 1953 New York City) (known as Robin Bush) was the second child of George H. W. Bush and Barbara Bush. Named after her maternal grandmother, she died of leukemia at the age of three. She was initially buried in Connecticut, but was reburied in 2000 at the Texas A&M University site which is intended for her parents.
One writer has argued that her death left a profound impact on her older brother, the future president George W. Bush.
Could this be a case of sibling rivalry, and Little Georgie murdered his own sister?
I think an autopsy is in order. There was ALWAYS something fishy about the ever changing stories about the #2 kid's sudden death.
We ALL know about Little Georgie's penchant for torturing pets, and shoving firecrackers down the mouths of frogs.
I really think that Little Georgie's little sister should be exhumed.
We have a mad man walking around loose.
Posted by DPD on May 31, 2006 at 07:52 PM
lol um I hear Randi say he's MAD all the time!
and not the angry kind of mad
my MOM always refers to the scary Bush on the COUCH book! Anything is possible (it is quite clear) but dayum!
I have to say I think CHAINSAW is twice as evil as W. But that's just my impression. Double the Trouble. I'm not sure I want to know for sure though.
Posted by Dawnie on May 31, 2006 at 07:38 PM
I was stationed in Kassel in the British zone as part of an Army Security Agency unit. We were fairly close to the East German border and were ordered to be ready to head west if the Russians crossed the border since we were a non-combat battalion and right in the path of historical invasion route through Kassel.
I didn't think to much about the wall going up to tell you the truth. I am a history buff and have been reading the history of WWI and WWII including the events leading up to the wars. I didn't really get interested in the history until the late 1960's.
One night when I was on shift at our work center we received reports that the Russians lined up their tanks in a long line right at the border facing west with their lights on. We were, to say the least, a little alarmed.
I think at about the same time, Kennedy became President and extended everyone's enlistment several months. The draftees were very upset about being extended especially the lifers as we called them. At the time, they weren't allowed to bring their families over because of the crisis with Russia.
I just loved Germany, of course I found out the reason in 1989, most of my mother's family came from Germany.
Birds of a Feather must also work for BELLY crawling REPTILES and the SCALES they share.
considering the hannity's, coulters, O'liely's, Lush's, jez the list is endless!
It's a damn demon ARMY of HATE and CRUELTY!!
Posted by dumpw on May 31, 2006 at 08:01 PM
Kewl! :-) thanks for sharing! I'm 3/4 German myself. Not that it matters really.
I am curious about a bumper sticker I saw today
I didn't like it but that's because I was taught Pride goes before a fall.
What do you think of this guys sticker (on his big honkin pickem up truck) that said American Pride on it?
Is that the replacement for his W sticker? I wonder?
Pride can be over done. It just read a little unnerving to me.
Anyone know about these new bumper stickers?
In our 20's we had barely a recollection of the night before. lol
Posted by Dawnie on May 31, 2006 at 07:38 PM
Tell me about it. I think I drank too much German beer and it affected my memory. I always managed to make it back to base though. I wasn't too interested in German ladies because they never shaved their legs. Ugh. The French ladies though were oohlala as they say.
Restore America!
In America we truly believe that each day brings us a new opportunity to do better than we did the day before. We threw off tyranny in our own land, halted a worldwide threat of oppression, misery and death and saw daybreak over the long, cold war.
We have seen political scoundrels in our midst cause great damage to our treasury, institutions and even global standing in times past and even today. They campaign on hate and fear to shout down the better angels of the American ideal, where all men are created equal and fear is moderated with prudence and wisdom.
The spell of these prejudice peddlers and false prophet trampy little Jesus pimps, who get fat from the carrion of their deceit, is a short lived spell, save for only a few. The newly awakened realize they have been duped and are of little humor. America is the strongest nation on the face of the earth. She gets her power from the people who vote.
Restore America!
Posted by dumpw on May 31, 2006 at 08:10 PM
I get lazy sometimes but ewwwwwww! I don't think the French shave under their arms tho do they?
LOL @ oolala
mon dieu!
considering the hannity's, coulters, O'liely's, Lush's, jez the list is endless!
It's a damn demon ARMY of HATE and CRUELTY!!
Posted by Dawnie on May 31, 2006 at 08:02 PM
They would fit right in with Hitler's SS running concentration camps. Remember Schindler's List where that head SS guy (Armon?)in the camp would just pick up a rifle and shoot at Jews in the yard at random and for no apparent reason. Of course, he was hanged after the war. Maybe these creeps will suffer the same fate after being tried for treason.
Posted by Dawnie on May 31, 2006 at 08:13 PM
I guess that's part of my memory I left in the NCO club. You are right the armpit thing was pretty gross.
Posted by Bruno on May 31, 2006 at 08:13 PM
I don't even think back then it could equate with all the public broadcast station LIARS AND FRAUDS like some of those I mentioned.
At least the public was given a relatively balanced version of the truth? or not I don't know for sure as I was not around. And was the whole PUG congress in bed with criminals like they are now?
Posted by dumpw on May 31, 2006 at 08:14 PM
In the last decade I've missed a LOT of movies for various reasons. That was one.
It took me years to finally sit down and cry through the Titanic movie. I am not really a fan of depressing movies although they may be quite informative. I'm a wuss that way. :-{
I will stop hogging the blog and go eat din din and catch the last half hour of Keith (even though he's been GONE) grr!
BBL
thanks for the chit chat Friends :-) {{hugs}}
It hasn't been this bad since Herbert Hoover.
Hoover and the Great Depression
Posted by Bruno on May 31, 2006 at 08:13 PM
Hoover surely sounded like a wacco repug didn't he. I remember my father talking about working for WPA in San Francisco, probably in 1934. He couldn't find work so WPA gave him the job of drilling holes in Eucalyptus acorns. I think at the time people used hanging beads or acorns for room dividers in doorways. Things were really bad. He finally got a job as a postman in 1937.
When Roosevelt took office he started all kinds of recovery programs such as the Conservation Corp where young men worked in the National Forests and Parks thinning trees, building trails and fighting fires. An interesting note. A large number of these kids made their careers with the Forest Service and were retiring in the 70's. They made a great backbone for the Service. Roosevelt also electrified (Rural Electrification Administration) the mid-west. Prior to his administration much of the midwest did not have electricity. Part of their work included the dams in the Tennessee Valley and Grand Coulee Dam in Washington.
During the 30's some very large skyscrapers were built including the Empire State Building. All these projects provided jobs for the everyday American. The repukes couldn't care less. They were afraid that the average American would be come dependent on government and that would be a sin.
The repugs did not believe in helping anyone and they still don't. They thought big business would help but they were too cheap to open their moth-eaten purese.
It took me years to finally sit down and cry through the Titanic movie. I am not really a fan of depressing movies although they may be quite informative. I'm a wuss that way. :-{
Posted by Dawnie on May 31, 2006 at 08:25 PM
My favorite movies are Young Doctor Frankenstein, and the Police Academy series. Schindler's list was a tear jerker. Another great movie was Three Wishes. I was even in tears (of joy) over that one. Check it out it's really moving.