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Right-Wing Group Calling It Quits?
It looks like the Project for the New American Century, the neocon group that promoted the invasion of Iraq, is closing down.
{{Jen}} {{Veneita}}!!
V, it's been too long, dear one. Glad to see you back in here.
jwwf
Here's a good one to remember and to use , peeps,
Frame it!
Stay the Course? What Course?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/15/AR2006061501793.html
(Morning {{Jen}}}
You can bet that PNAC will re-open just under a different name, (which their brilliant Republican framers will make up for them. ) PNAC has had too much bad press. People are using that at town meetings now.
I cannot stay here today, but I want to bring something from the last thread:
My message to CNN.com
The following article was on your site today:
"Rancorous election-year debate in the House culminates today as Republicans force Democrats to vote on a resolution that praises U.S. troops, labels the Iraq war part of a global fight on terrorism and says an "arbitrary date for the withdrawal or redeployment" of troops is not in the national interest. The House vote comes a day after the Senate rejected a call to withdraw combat troops by year's end."
What kind of crap reporting is this! It strongly endorses the idea that Democrats do not want to praise the troops or win this debacle in Iraq. That is WRONG!!! Your article today on CNN.com must have been written for you by the Republican party. You are not doing your job as a news source. Instead of informing the people, you are spreading the propaganda of the right-wing, inept and corrupt republican party. America needs you to be independent and report the news, NOT THE REPUBLICAN TALKING POINTS!!!!
Write CNN and blast them for their partisan reporting. Do it now.
I have to go. Keep up the good fight fellow Dems. We have got to have a plan to take back the press and stop the media from acting as a mouth-piece for the Republican stinking talking points. About the only tool we have is our power as consumers. Write.
AGHGHGHAAAHGHAHGH!!!
Outta here.
{{{Rev, Pam, Kristen}}} Be well {{{Chi}}}
Sad day. An Urban Paradise Is Plowed Under
Despite help from Hollywood's progressive celebrities, L.A.'s biggest community garden is raided and bulldozed away.
This is their justice, eh?" said Tezozomoc, elected representative of the community gardeners called the South Central Farmers. "This is their dialogue."
Morning
You California folks will laugh at this but my AUNT got all upset last night! She felt an earthquake on the top of her mountain in NC! LOL
We felt nada over this way! Am waiting to see if DEB felt anything as it was pretty much centered around her area! Verrrrry inta-res-tink !
Man, in an interview with military general who is a strategist for the defense dept, gives a little insight on what these idiots base their beliefs on:
As a strategist, we don't look at the current situation, we make our decisions by looking 10 years out....
Iraq is working, we can tell because there have been two significant elections, a constitutional referendum, more iraqis have taken the uniform and taken on the fight....
the insurgency will end when forces inside the country are able to quell rebellion,this can not be done by any occupying force, it must be done by the iraqi's themselves. (did he tell this to bush and the pugs?)
When asked about the civil war in iraq he said: we don't see it as a civil war, a civil war is a break down of government and a breakdown by the military. This remarkable iraqi army has gotten rid of the bathist in it's midst and held together and remains faithful to the iraqi government. (didn't i read where some of the army recruits have defected to militias?)
He also asserted that if we REALLY wanted to, we could have both Afghan and Iraq stabelized in 1 1/2 years...well why the hell haven't we done THAT?
He tells us that the war on terror will end when the this ideology is rejected by the mainstream islamic world.
He finished by saying that every time we go after groups like al qaeda it can't be a military solution...it must be a "soft war" by taking away their financing (they haven't done that yet?) and take away the internet as a way of recruiting....what?
just to illustrate how intelligent the pug's intelligence is.....
ARGH
Why didn't I just keep heading north when I moved up here last April?
I didn't go far enough apparently. This country has already gone to HELL and the REST of the planet will soon reject. (protest, eject) You name it!
Posted by jen on June 16, 2006 at 09:42 AM
Don't bet on it, babygirl. They never quit; snakes just go underground. Word up: poke around for Centers for Creative Leadership or similar titles. Chances are good that there's probably one near you and it's conveniently close to some Heritage foundation "academy". Juuuust sayin'...
Posted by Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 10:05 AM
Heya, GF... mountain tremors aren't all that uncommon. With this heat wave comin' on, we'll just set around and shake-n-back :-D
Posted by RedLetter_Rev on June 16, 2006 at 10:18 AM
Heat wave??? LOL surely you jest! Might reach 85 here today and to this Florida gal that's coooooool! ;-)
Rev and Pam, just posting the article ;), I don't believe those folks are going anywhere! 'ceptin maybe to hell.
Posted by jen on June 16, 2006 at 10:25 AM
I'm thinkin they've arrived and WE are the ones that should leave!
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self evident......
This sounds as rational today as it did over 200 years ago!!!
Just stopped in for a second...
Brian,
duh! obviously I ALREADY wrote CNN.
We need to get Murtha's face on the tube as much as possible, because if ANYONE supports the troops, it is him. The only poeple the idoit republicans are supporting are other idiot republicans. Party before country is the Republican policy.
As to Kerry "making this reporting happen", that makes no sense. Not suprising, really.
Outta here.
Dawnie,
This week's idiocies from the radical right activist SCOTUS judges flies right in the very face of The Declaration. The reason that we have protections against warrantless search and seizure and against unannounced barge-ins from authorities is because that is exactly what the British were doing to the colonists. They resented the intrusions then and we certainly resent it now.
It amazes me that Congress and SCOTUS are so unforgiveably ignorant of American history and the foundations of our laws. It amazes me that the wacko right are so gullible and so happy to throw their rights and protections away so readily.
Fools.
They're going to keep on, and find themselves in the unenviable position of the original Mad King George. If the reich aren't pushing for a complete breakdown of the Constitution and American society, then no one is. Their actions treasonous even on the face of it.
Project for the New American Century, the neocon group that promoted the invasion of Iraq, is closing down.
Posted by jen on June 16, 2006 at 09:42 AM
If justice were served these people would be served with an indictment on Jan 20th '07 and stand trial for conspiracy and all matters related to causing the deaths of thousands of innocent people. Their "Plan" is the basis of lots of evil doings.
Posted by RedLetter_Rev on June 16, 2006 at 10:43 AM
They ARE traitors! And the military they are adopting NOW are trained mercenaries and poor despots looking for a free ride to citizenship!
Nothing much honorable about the former and as for the latter, I have only sympathy for them as I'm sure they will be the FIRST to be sent out on patrol! :-(
Time for some human fuel. Be back later!
{{love you guys}}
Peace!
A repost from last night - jic anyone missed it...
DumpW,
after you printed that, I googled Dr. Lawrence Britt and the Fourteen Points of Fascism.....FOLKS, THIS IS SOBERING:
14 POINTS OF FASCISM
1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism
2. Disdain for the importance of human rights
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause
4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism
5. Rampant sexism
6. A controlled mass media
7. Obsession with national security
8. Religion and ruling elite tied together
9. Power of corporations protected
10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated
11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts
12. Obsession with crime and punishment
13. Rampant cronyism and corruption
14. Fraudulent elections
NOW IF THIS WOULDN'T MAKE A GOOD LTE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD! (damn, that's scarry!)
Yep momo, that list is a powerful one, especially the first time you see it.
Here's the list of yeas and nays, no votes and the "other thing"
interesting is that WAXMAN decided NOT to vote along with Senselessbrenner and Sessions? Jez he's not keeping good company these days!
Repuglicans across the land are rejoicing over President Bush's alleged resurgence this week. "He's back," they say. "The Comeback Kid," they're calling him. One right wing columnist, Clark S. Judge, went so far as to say that "the president just had the best week of his second term, perhaps of his entire presidency...." and talks of Bush's "stunning new momentum" that's "proving a transformative success on the domestic as well as international front." Excuse me, but I seem to have missed the memo outlining Bush's big accomplishes this week. As usual, the bar is set so low for this president that all he needs to do is show a pulse and we're supposed to declare a national holiday in his honor.
THIS is what I call GOOD Christians!!! Yea Washington State!
Troops refusing Iraq duty get a haven
~snip~
By MIKE BARBER
P-I REPORTER
Prompted by a Fort Lewis Army officer's decision to refuse to fight in Iraq, the First United Methodist Church of Tacoma has declared itself a sanctuary for servicemen and servicewomen who also don't want to go to Iraq.
The 300-member congregation's administrative council voted last weekend to open its doors beginning this Saturday after 1st Lt. Ehren Watada announced that he thinks the war in Iraq is illegal and that he has sought to resign his commission.
WooHOO Denny's goin DOWN!!
Records reveal Hastert's hand in land deal
$3 million gain for 3 partners in 3 years
By Mike Dorning and Andrew Zajac
Washington Bureau
Published June 15, 2006
WASHINGTON -- Republican House Speaker Dennis Hastert and two partners turned a profit of more than $3 million on property they accumulated and sold in just over three years near the route of a proposed controversial freeway on the western fringe of suburban Chicago, according to land records and financial disclosure reports released Wednesday
Hastert spokesman Ron Bonjean rejected the notion that the land, located 5 1/2 miles from the proposed Prairie Parkway route, rose in value because of the highway project. The speaker long has been an aggressive proponent of the highway and helped secure more than $200 million in federal funding through an earmark in federal transportation legislation.
It looks as if CNN changed its piece on the vote that Chicago was referring to...
hEY {{{DAWNIE}}}}
How is your head? hope you are feeling better.
this morning when i heard about the tremor in the mountains, i immediately thought of you....glad to hear no damage done.
{{{{JEN}}}}
As soon as i found it, i knew you had already seen it....makes you wonder why more dems don't use this against the pugs....good fodder, you know!
Hey {{Dawnie}}
Hastert is another Crooked corrupt Republican turd that Melhmann will have to spray perfume on !(per Jon Stewart's definition).
If the REpublicans in the House, voting right now, on not putting a date on withdrawal for our troops shows that THEY support the troops, what do they think the 70% of americans who think this war was based on lies, is nothing more than an occupation, and that our boys should get the hell out of there are thinking about them!!! I hope the Dems take this and RUN with it. i.e. Republicans do not care if American boys get killed for Lies!
WASHINGTON - House Democrats on Wednesday demanded that Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt turn over records detailing his use of a leased jet he reportedly flew on 19 times to travel to 99 cities, including a trip to Utah in March.
Leavitt, a former three-term governor of Utah, defended his actions. He told the House Ways and Means Committee his use of the leased jet was approved by Congress last year and was essential to his mission of helping prepare for a flu pandemic and encouraging seniors to enroll in a new drug benefit.
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"What he did is illegal. He was using a plane that was set aside for the Centers for Disease Control to be used as what you and I would think of as a medevac plane for anthrax attacks and that sort of thing," Stark said in an interview. Congress ''certainly did not mention using it on something that would be a public relations trip."
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Leavitt spent about 200 hours in the air, at a cost to taxpayers of $720,000.
snip
The CDC uses the jet for quick response to ship samples to labs for testing, deliver vaccines or ship scientists to the location of a potential outbreak to investigate - all situations where time is crucial, said CDC spokesman Tom Skinner.
Hey {{Linnnnnnnda, Pammy, everyone!}}
Much better thanks! LOL Maybe it was an earthquake headache! We felt nothing here. My rather heavy 3rd floor neighbor and his rather heavy dog are enough of a shake that I wouldn't probably notice!
Thank goodness they only get noisey on their way OUT or IN. :-\
It's great when Idaho makes the National News but not for a severed head flying out of a pick up. Ewwww, my apologies for Idaho.
FWIW, here's a list of the democrats who voted yea on House Res. 861 today. If your rep is among them, you know what you need to do.
Barrow
Bean
Berman
Berry
Bishop (GA)
Boren
Boswell
Boucher
Cardoza
Case
Chandler
Cooper
Costa
Costello
Cramer
Cuellar
Davis (TN)
Edwards
Etheridge
Gordon
Green, Gene
Herseth
Higgins
Holden
Kind
Larsen (WA)
Lipinski
Lynch
Marshall
Matheson
McCarthy
McIntyre
Melancon
Moore (KS)
Peterson (MN)
Ross
Salazar
Smith (WA)
Snyder
Spratt
Taylor (MS)
Thompson (MS)
Posted by BlueinIdaho on June 16, 2006 at 12:17 PM
Hey Blue, I saw that news last night and had to read it twice. I couldn't believe that guy was driving down the road with his wife's head in the truck. Has it be exceptionally hot down there or what?!
OMG this is JUST too sad! gtg bbl Peace Plllllllllease!!! :-((
Bomber kills 10 in Baghdad mosque
Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:09am ET167
By Michael Georgy
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A suicide bomber killed at least 10 people inside a Shi'ite mosque in Baghdad on Friday, a day after the national security adviser said al Qaeda's days in Iraq are numbered.
The bomber blew himself up as worshippers gathered for prayers at the Buratha mosque, an old site which is revered by Shi'ites. Twenty-five people were wounded.
Mosque guard Abdullah Hussein said the attack was carried out by a suicide bomber who had hidden explosives in his sandals to avoid security checks. Police have not confirmed this.
"A guard tried to stop him but he blew himself up and nothing was left of him except his head. You can see it if you want, it's over there," he said, pointing toward a tray in the mosque where a severed human head lay.
It is not the first time a suicide bomber has killed at the Buratha mosque. On April 7, three suicide bombers dressed as women attacked it, killing at least 71 people.
Friday's blast was the type of violence the new leader of al Qaeda in Iraq, who succeeded Arab Abu Musab al-Zarqawi last week, had vowed to maintain as part of a war against Shi'ites and the U.S.-backed government.
Abu Ayyub al-Masri vowed three days ago to avenge the death of Zarqawi, who was killed by a U.S. air strike last week.
Shortly after the mosque blast, mortar bombs hit houses and shops on the edge of Baghdad, killing at least three people. Continued...
"House Rejects Timetable for Iraq
Pullout"
"In a 256-153 vote, the GOP-led House approved a nonbinding resolution that praises U.S. troops, labels the Iraq war part of the larger global fight against terrorism and says an "arbitrary date for the withdrawal or redeployment" of troops is not in the national interest."
Sorry, Dawn, for repeating info you'd already posted. That'll teach to read the blog first!
All this time I thought that King George couldn't speak correctly because of low intelligence...turns out he has had a hook in his mouth all this time...
Documents: al-Qaida Sought U.S.-Iran War(AP) -
BAGHDAD, Iraq-A blueprint for trying to start a war between the United States and Iran was among a "huge treasure" of documents found in the hideout of terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, Iraqi officials said Thursday.
http://news.findlaw.com/ap/i/631/06-15-2006/d838003632500791.html
Posted by tylinCA on June 16, 2006 at 12:21 PM
Hey I only posted the link. You posted the names. ;-)
ok I really have to go. Peace!
Posted by Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 12:19 PM
The guy lived about two miles from me--that's where they found the rest of his wife, sitting in her car in the garage.
The whole thing is horrific.
Bush Signs Legislation on Broadcast Decency
Measure Boosts Maximum Fine to $325,000
By Peter Baker
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, June 16, 2006;
Complaining that television and radio shows in recent years have "too often pushed the bounds of decency," President Bush signed legislation yesterday to escalate dramatically the penalties against broadcasters who violate federal standards.
"The language is becoming coarser during the times when it's more likely children will be watching television," Bush said, citing a study of nighttime programming. "It's a bad trend, a bad sign." He noted that complaints to regulators have exploded since he took office. "People are saying, 'We're tired of it, and we expect the government to do something about it.' "
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/
article/2006/06/15/AR2006061500951.html?referrer
=email&referrer=email
This bill kills two birds with one stone. The Republicans can point to at least one "accomplishment" this year while pandering to their right-wing zealots. And it also limits freedom of speech.
The rest of the free world is watching closely. Bush is taking this nation out of the sunshine and into a dark place no democracy would go. He continues to isolate us from our allies and encourages those that attacked us on 9/11.
A couple of ideas I have for the upcoming election:
1. We still lag behind the Republicans in terms of our effectiveness with sound bites. One step toward remedying that: everytime they denounce Democratic plans on Iraq as "cut and run", we denounce their plans as "stay and die."
2. Any chance we can get permission to use The Who's "Won't Get Fooled Again" as the Democratic campaign song this year?
Our Democrat Congres folks should submit "signing statments" when they hold there nose and vote for one of the sham resolutions that the Repuglithugs force on them.
Posted by Terry on June 16, 2006 at 12:49 PM
Awesome ideas Terry! Especially like the song idea.
Posted by Chicago on June 16, 2006 at 09:51 AM
I wouldn't be too upset. CNN does this every time the administration launches another strategy to fool people into thinking they are really attending to business. How many times have the Congressional Republicans staged these mock debates and votes on Iraq which have nothing to do with ending this war? It's high drama for the cameras and their silly sheep.
There has been no progress in Iraq in the last week except that the new Prime Minister inssued a curfew to cut down on the "public" activities of the warring factors. Once it's lifted, they will come out in the open again. They are fighting a civil war not Islmaic terrorists.
If there is anything you can learn from history, it's that insurgents are patient. They will take this time to regroup, form new and consolidate old alliances, re-arm and re-structure, solicit more donations from Moslims in other countries, and lay the frame work for their next attacks after the curfew is lifted.
It's a waiting game. They have all the time in the world. They know that sooner or later the foreign occupiers in the United States will run out of money and have to attend to the problems they have been neglecting at home.
We will leave with nothing except a lot of shattered lives and neocon illusions. Time is on their side.
The Republicans continue to neglect the economic and social problems at home, while they preem and posture about patriotism they don't have. They have been doing it now going on 14 years in the Repbulican-controlled Congress and 5 years in the White House. It's really getting old and just makes the problems we face more grave.
The Iraqi underground is winning their war agaist the neocons and they know it. The Republicans are fooling only themselves.
Terry,
I like that..."stay and die" as opposed to "cut and run"....i am going to use that every chance i get!
Good talking point! Will look good in a LTE also!
Thanks Terry!
Hastert is another Crooked corrupt Republican turd that Melhmann will have to spray perfume on !(per Jon Stewart's definition).
Posted by PamB on June 16, 2006 at 11:57 AM
Pam, I believe there is an old Sixties protest song by Burt Backerak(?}/Dionne Warwick that goes something like that, "Spray it with cologne and the whole world smells sweet." It think it's called "Are We Living in a World Made of Paper Machee?" It was really quite pretty and the lyrics were right on the mark.
Posted by Terry on June 16, 2006 at 12:49 PM
I don't know about that line ..."Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..."
SandyH,
Glad you are here, i always seem to miss you....wondering if you would put together a lte with your SS points, i would love to send to local paper and bet a lot on here would do the same.
You know, the "ONE VOICE" thing!
New CNN Poll: should us set timetable to eventually withdraw troops from iraq?
Yes = 53%
No 41%
but CNN still says the country is divided evenly....is my math bad
Hi, momo.
I'll work on the lte, but I'm usually too wordy. They like short,snappy stuff. I've only had two published. But I often get e-mails from the staff asking questions and wanting my point of view of various subjects. You know when you've connected with the staff.
I'll get back with you.
Thanks Sandy,
You may be "wordy" but you certainly know how to make a point!
Posted by PamB on June 16, 2006 at 11:38 AM
Awe, those accomplishments. It seems to me that Bush is just trying to cover his tracks. He's accomplished zilch since he took office. Look at the facts.
We are in the deepest debt to foreign powers in our history, in a useless war, our medical system is in crisis, our FEMA response capabilities are shatter at a time when we are at great risk from terrorists, we are losing whole industries and our middle-class, we are increasingly dependent on a diminishing form of energy, and we have alienated our allies.
That is the Republican list of accomplishments. We are far worse off than when they took power.
We are in very grave danger of losing both our superpower status and our Constitutional form of government.
Awe, he's on a roll again. And he's taking us all along for the disasterous ride.
We have enough votes to throw the bums out this fall...even in some very red states. But I fear our party did too little to insure that those votes will be counted.
gotta run. later.
Ok, so Chimpy has landed in Seattle. This is a hold your stomach post but and I don't want anyone to rant at me for the Bush lovefest these pictures look like. What I want you to see is the caption used on Rove's picture.
I can't post directly to the pictures. Go to the Front Page of the PI and select
Hi to all you fellow Democrats out there. Two things:
1 - Those of you in Seattle, there is a fundraiser for Jim McDermott, our 7th district representative, tomorrow afternoon. Rick Steves is speaking on the topic of what they think of us overseas. While he is widely viewed as one of the most liberal members of the House, Jim McDermott does an excellent job of representing the views and interests of all of us who live in his district. Please let me know if you would like more information on this event.
2 - I am totally appalled at the glee with which our President, and everyone else below him, speaks of killing al-Zarqawi. I take no joy in ANYONE's death. This man should have been tried in court for his crimes. I suspect the reason our president did not advocate this is because then he, too, would have to be tried in the world court for HIS crimes. Bush also seems to see "War" as an excuse to dismiss any and all law, substituting instead his own declarations as if his word IS THE LAW.
Hi Marc, hope all are well. Where is the fundraiser for McDermott?
Terrapin - I can't figure out
Terrapin - if it's an end or the beginning
Terrapin - but the train's got its brakes on
and the whistle is screaming: TERRAPIN
Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 02:52 PM:
I don't have the exact address with me at the office... its in Fremont under the Aurora bridge, right on Lake Union. Email me if you are interested and I'll forward the meeting notice when I get home.
Things are okay with us, though I think my wife is doing too much childcare for our daughter.
Ann Coulter: What's in a Name?
Ann Coulter's foul mouth and disposition have made their way into the news and talk show circuit again, while she promotes another of her shoddily written diatribes. Her most recent insults won't even be dignified here with a response. She continues to proudly and stridently represent the 'compassionate conservativism' (LOL) of the reactionary Republican party.
The 'woman' calls herself a 'christian', but is not one in any traditional sense. No doubt, Jesus would not recognize her or her supporters as such. Yet, she sure is a 'coulter'. It is defined as the 'wedge' at the front of a plow. Wedge is what she does, and with her uncanny likeness to a 'horse' perhaps she pulls the plow, too. She certainly is effective at stridently sowing the seeds of dissension.
Any honest observer knows that both her views and her methods of expression have proven to serve no public interest. They only monger hate and division. The hope is that the MSM will not continue to give her the cynical, self-serving forum she seems to thrive on. But, likely the cynical, self-serving and sympathetic publisher and press will continue to do so as long as it brings in the cynical readers and viewers; and the subsequent self-serving sales and advertising revenues.
Blog On
PLANET REVOLUTION Blog
Posted by Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 02:49 PM
Scurries just like the rat he is...
Posted by Marc on June 16, 2006 at 02:50 PM
After the Saddam Hussein trial debaucle, King George will never let anyone be captured alive.
Hey Blue, Cd'A made the big time, and not for a good reason.
Fired – For Love Without Marriage
(AP) The owners of a roller skating rink have fired an 18-year-old woman they called one of their "Top 10" employees because she moved in with her boyfriend, violating a company ethics policy that prohibits "live-in relationships of an intimate nature."
Posted by Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 03:20 PM
Okay, that almost made my lunch come up. I would bet my life savings that these owners have some skeletons in their closet that violates their own handbook. Disgusting.
"Skate Plaza's moral and ethics policy also bans such behaviors as "public displays of promiscuous activities, homosexuality, intoxication, use of profanity, lewd behavior, use of illegal drugs, child abuse, spouse abuse, unlawful relationships, cross-dressing, stalking and nudity.""
The truth is simple
Use your civilian intelligence
Can America afford two more years
Republican President
Republican Senate
Republican Congress
Republican Constitutional values
Republican Democracy and Freedom
Republican International Law
Republican American Law
Republican Corporate lobbying
Republican Corporate Government
Republican Corporate Welfare
Republican green-blooded religion
Republican poverty retirements
Republican outsourcing America
If this is not enough to scare you then
Vote Republican to see the worst scenario.
Republican theatrics it is a horror picture.
David Young
Republican Hollywood Productions Presents “Mission Accomplished”
“Mission Accomplished” film about Washington’s DC intelligence
Story credits by George W Bush Fantasy WMD Productions
Intelligence credits by Cheney’s Halliburton No Bid Task force
Stage play by Donald Rumsfeld, White House Iraqi War Strategist
Screenplay credits by Carl Rove’s Right Wing Globalization Plan
Sound credits by the Republican Good Ole Green Blooded Choir
Security credits by Patriot Act Warrantless Domestic Spying Corporation
Lighting credits by Katrina Cathedral Floodlight Promise Company
Research credits by Tricky Dick Watergate Investigative Productions
Come see how John Wayne Bush comes in to save the day in his flight suit
How he single handily battled, changing the Iraq War outcome, by his speech.
David Young
Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 03:20 PM:
I'm afraid very little surprises me after this week's supreme court decision to substantially eliminate any protections we have from the police!
Imagine my shock and surprise last night, the same day as this decision, when I found the local police knocking on our front door between 9 and 10pm last night. They were investigating a hit-and-run accident that reportedly happened in front of our house, and involved a car reportedly registered at our address! Well, it wasn't us, but I sure did have to think about every word I gave in response to his questions. I was just waiting to be carted away for some trumped up charge due to my Liberal beliefs, and that's Liberal with a capital L.
Nothing seems to have come for their visit, but I still find it unsettling.
Coulter calls for Murtha's murder.
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In an email interview with John Hawkins at the Right Wing News web site, Coulter was asked, among other things, to offer short comments on several individuals. After harmlessly dismissing former Ambassador Joseph Wilson as the "World's most intensely private exhibitionist," she said of Rep. John Murtha, the hawkish ex-Marine and now antiwar congressman: "The reason soldiers invented 'fragging.'"
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14 POINTS OF FASCISM
Posted by momoaizo on June 16, 2006 at 11:07 AM
Hi momo,
I am convinced that bush is the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler. Hitler died shortly before chimp was born. cheney may be the reincarnation of
Rasputin.
Just before the election, Hollywood should do a Dumb and Dumber movie featuring bush and cheney.
Hello all!
DPD repubs don't really like her. They use her so that we will respond to HER instead of Telling the Armerican people OUR plan.
Terry i LOVE that idea!!!!
To all who believed the "swift-boat" lies: one more of your fellow Americans have died for your ignorance and two more are in grave danger.
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A U.S. soldier was killed and two were unaccounted for Friday after they came under attack at a traffic checkpoint in Yusufiya.
A search was under way for the two missing soldiers in the town, about 20 miles southwest of Baghdad.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/16/iraq.main/index.html
Posted by WendyG on June 16, 2006 at 05:31 PM
Oh, some do like her very much. She says the things they believe but are too afraid to say out loud.
Then there is Leno, who I have no respect for anymore after he let her use his program to preach hate. His program tried to drum up publicity by calling the show a "smackdown" between Carlin and Coulter. Carlin must have dozed off like old men sometimes do...
Posted by Marc on June 16, 2006 at 05:09 PM
Marc try having the homeland security police drive down your driveway for no apparent reason. We have new neighbors just down the street and he took a detour down my long driveway about a week ago and then backed up and went home. I almost stopped by to ask if there was something I could help him with, but thought that might be just too bold, even for me.
Hey Blue, I wonder what happened to my new found admirer.;)
I hope Bruno finds his way out of that locked room soon, this place could use a bit of livening up. :)
I am so sick and tired of rush fatbaugh, handjobity, coldsore and o'liarly. All they ever do is whine about Democrats and badmouth our Democratic leaders. When are the stupid morons that listen to their shit day after day going to grow up. They are the ones that have led to the utter division of the parties and the hatred of anyone who is not a repug. In return we hate their guts for what they have done to our America.
Lincoln said "A house divided against itself cannot stand". That is so true today.
The repugs need to go a long way before they even come close to meeting the intent of Lincoln's Second Inaugural Address. We need a new president NOW that will follow these precepts.
"With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in; to bind up the nation's wounds; to care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow and his orphan - to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace, among ourselves, and with all nations."
the repugs hate America, they haven't a charitable bone in their bodies, they don't give a damn about veterans and their widows, and they don't want peace among ourselves or other nations.
All they care about is winning elections and dominating and treating all Americans like shit. When are these total unmitigated a**holes that vote for them going to grow up?
I just heard on the news that the chimp administration has warned North Korea that they had better not shoot off their latest rocket. It's none of that assholes business what North Korea does. When is it going to end, after we are all cremated.
Posted by Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 05:43 PM
Awwwww, you miss him!
Leadership comes from having your man in the WH. Otherwise, you have just as many opinions as you have individuals.
Posted by BlueinIdaho on June 16, 2006 at 05:49 PM
Well, I wouldn't go quite that far!
Posted by Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 05:55 PM
LOL. I get what you mean...his irascibility kind of grows on you. :)
It has been absolutely beautiful in Seattle this afternoon.
And yet...Bush Gets Rained On
Do you think Gawd was telling him to get out our Fair city before the walls came crumbling down!
Wal-Mart did not violate a pharmacist's civil rights when it fired him for refusing on religious grounds to fill prescriptions for contraceptives and failing to arrange fill-in help for customers, a federal judge in Madison, Wis., has ruled.
Although the company was willing to accommodate plaintiff Neil Noesen's religious beliefs by allowing him to refuse to fill contraceptive prescriptions, it could not reasonably allow him to place telephone customers on hold indefinitely or walk away from in-store customers without notifying another pharmacist to fill in, Judge John Shabaz concluded.
http://news.findlaw.com/andrews/em/emp/20060616/20060616noesen.html
Posted by Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 06:14 PM
That ahole was also in New Mexico today. THIS SHOULD NOT BE TOLERATED. HE IS NOT RUNNING FOR ANY OFFICE. HE IS PISSING AWAY PRECIOUS JET FUEL WHICH WE ARE PAYING FOR. THIS CREEP WILL BE KNOWN AS THE WORST PRESIDENT WE HAVE EVER HAD AND IS TRYING TO SCREW US ALL. BEND OVER.
Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 05:40 PM:
It sure IS scary out there!
I never thought I'd live to see the secret police here in the United States, but they are here. And they are our neighbors. You really can't just say what you believe any longer... it will all be monitored for Correctness.
Posted by dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 06:34 PM
how did he get to New Mexico so quickly? He didn't arrive in Seattle until after 9:00 am and was here for a few hours.
Did they run out of gas for Air Force1?
Posted by Marc on June 16, 2006 at 06:36 PM
Hitler's Gestapo had the same arrangement. Children report their parents to the Gestapo and they one night just disappeared. Neighbor reported neighbor and they disappeared. They were most likely questioned, tortured then sent to a concentration camp where if they did not die of starvation, they were gassed and cremated.
It appears we are close to this scenario. If a person disagrees with this fascist administration they are called traitors. This is the first step.
Did they run out of gas for Air Force1?
Posted by Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 06:47 PM
I read in the local Albuquerque paper that he was here to stump for Heather Wilson our local repug congresswoman. She votes in lock step with congress. Hopefully she will be dumped in November. She is an Air Force Academy graduate and is a hawk. Maybe it is an evening meeting.
Echoing retracted Bush administration characterization, Limbaugh labeled Gitmo suicides a "PR move"
Limbaugh, who frequently refers to the Guantánamo facility as "Club Gitmo," suggested the President Bush's surprise appearance in Iraq was not a public relations move but rather, "the PR move was the three suicides at Club Gitmo."
By the way, somebody wrote that this is a "PR move," the president to bop into Baghdad and bop back out.
It was a PR move? Right. PR move: flying into Baghdad where a missile could kill him. The PR move was the three suicides at Club Gitmo. That's the PR move, folks.
This is for ___William @ prodigy . com
Whomever you are I'm sorry I deleted your recent guestbook entry. Not because I don't know you but because when I went to your "fav" link it was some link for prescription drugs!
I figured you were trying to advertise and somehow thought by being nice I'd let it slide?
Anyway if that was not the case, I'm sorry and you can leave another with no fav link and I'll be sure to post it!
And Bruno I did post yours. Thanks for not being rude.
Evening ALL Dems! What's the good word?
Hopefully something. Randi was GREAT today (as usual) I wish I could see her with Ron Reagan in Wash. tomorrow!
Posted by dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 06:51 PM
except there are MORE of us than there are of THEM........ I think they are like 18 percent or something? I know that's enough to do a LOT of damage!
From what I read about Germany there were MORE brainwashed youngins turning in their parents?
Oh, some do like her very much. She says the things they believe but are too afraid to say out loud.
Then there is Leno, who I have no respect for anymore after he let her use his program to preach hate. His program tried to drum up publicity by calling the show a "smackdown" between Carlin and Coulter. Carlin must have dozed off like old men sometimes do...
Posted by BlueinIdaho on June 16, 2006 at 05:39 PM
If any Democrat said some of the things she has said about killing people they would be in jail but since she is a repug that will never happen.
lol and my callin them "youngins" means 20 somethings! jez it's hell to get old!
Posted by Domingo on June 16, 2006 at 07:01 PM
yep it's gonna come back on them in spades!!
And I'll be sitting there watching w/popcorn in one hand and my little tiny American flag waving in the other!
teheh!
Posted by Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 06:58 PM
Hi Dawnie, I believe when boys reached the age of 12 they were sent to the Hitler youth camp. I also believe that girls were sent to a similar camp. In these camps they were indoctrinated in Nazi ways and the camps weren't easy. I understand there were a lot of beatings if boys didn't take to the Nazi line.
Posted by Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 06:58 PM
It just occurred to me that maybe that's why the repugs want charter schools so they can indoctrinate kids in fascism.
dah hello! MSNBC do you pay attention to your OWN polls???
Should a timetable be set for pulling U.S. troops out of Iraq? * 19141 responses
Yes
72%
No
28%
write your senators and congresspersons and demand that they reinstate the Fairness Doctrine for broadcasting.
Posted by dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 07:08 PM
ok that sounds like something I have read before and very scary! The fundies would LOVE to do something like that to OUR schools!
I keep remembering how they kept telling us Iraqis would "greet Junior as a Liberator and erect his statue in a Baghdad square". Instead he had "sneak in like a thief in the night". Even "Lush" said he was "so brave" for showing his face over there.
Hey {{Albuquerque}} R U holding down the fort tonight??? Good JOB Soldier!! ;-)
OH Wow! I just remembered its FRY DAY!! hmm. Somehow saying that doesn't do the same things it USED to do for me! sigh, that's a damn shame!
Posted by Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 06:58 PM
With repug charter schools they can control who goes to the school and consequently discriminate against people of color.
My College roommate's mother was a hitler youth. He had some scary stories that she told him of what went on there. Even the current Pope was a H/Y. It was kind of like the Nazi Boy Scouts, where they "instill" National Values".
Posted by Domingo on June 16, 2006 at 07:15 PM
the list of what TRUTH they DID tell would be much shorter! I don't think I can think if a THING? OH wait he PROMISED his RICH BIOTCH BUDDIES he would kiss their royal cheeks until his last breath! He's kept one promise.
I keep remembering how they kept telling us Iraqis would "greet Junior as a Liberator and erect his statue in a Baghdad square". Instead he had "sneak in like a thief in the night". Even "Lush" said he was "so brave" for showing his face over there.
Posted by Domingo on June 16, 2006 at 07:15 PM
I love the fact that the Iraqi leader is asking for a timetable for our departure. This is a great slap in the face to chimp. Why hasn't the damned MSM reported this big time. "stay the course". We have to finish all our bases and the Billion Dollar embassy. We can't leave. It may come to the point where they will say get the hell out. If that happens the repugs would find a way to spin it so it is murtha's fault.
Posted by dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 07:16 PM
shiver!
Posted by DPD on June 16, 2006 at 07:17 PM
shiver twice @ nazi boyscouts that's SUCH an oxymoron! lol
Woo hooooooo! This is how Dem's need to come back at the Repugs!! I was there, it was great, I think we can win!!!
Pawlenty Target Of Ridicule At DFL Convention
(AP) Rochester, Minn.
Republican Gov. Tim Pawlenty got a voice in the DFL Party's state convention, but only to set up a slam against him.
A picture of Pawlenty flashed up on two big screens flanking the podium while a memorable audio clip of him addressing last weekend's Republican convention played.
"Now I know I may not be in some of your wildest dreams but I can tell you what your worst nightmare is," Pawlenty told Republican delegates at his party's state convention. "It's one of the big spendin', tax raisin', abortion promotin', gay marriage embracin', more-welfare-without-accountability lovin', school-reform resistin', illegal-immigration supportin' Democrats for governor who thinks Hillary Clinton should be president of the United States."
DFL Party Chairman Brian Melendez treated Democratic delegates to his own riff.
"I'm a God-fearing, America-loving, property-tax-paying Minnesotan. I'm a law abiding citizen and I think the president should be too. I read my Bible, but I don't think that makes me better than anyone else, and I don't try to jam it down anyone's throat. I read my Constitution, too, by the way. I like hunting, I like fishing and I've got no problem with the Second Amendment. And when you're having those nightmares about Democrats -- I'm the ringleader, and this ain't your daddy's DFL."
I love the fact that the Iraqi leader is asking for a timetable for our departure.
Yep, and it's "Junior's hand picked Iraqi leader" too. It's not the one the Iraqi people voted for. Junior kicked that guy out because he didn't like him and put this one in charge.
ok another MESSED up week and 1,000 people seem to think very diffErently on what was the most important thing that happened!
CSPAN POLL
What was the week's most important story in Washington?
Democrats Strip Rep. Jefferson of Committee Seat
24%
House & Senate Debate Iraq War, Troop Withdrawal
11%
Pentagon Reports 2,500 Killed & 18,490 Wounded in Iraq
19%
U.S. Emergency Rooms Not Ready for Pandemic, Terror Attack
5%
FEMA Paid $1.4B in Fraudulent Relief Claims
7%
Karl Rove Cleared in CIA Leak Probe
10%
Pres. Bush Makes Surprise Visit to Baghdad
14%
Detainees Commit Suicide at Guantanamo Bay
9%
Other
2%
Total Votes: 1088
Posted by DPD on June 16, 2006 at 07:17 PM
I thought I read where the girls were also indoctrinated. They may have been indoctrinated in women's role in the Third Reich. I know the women were encouraged to have as many little Nazis as possible.
I was shocked when I found out the Pope was a Nazi Youth. It is reported that the Cardinal of Austria or Vienna was running an "underground railroad" for Nazi war criminals after Germany surrendered.
the repugs would find a way to spin it so it is murtha's fault.
Ann "the man" wants Murtha killed.
Posted by lavndrblue on June 16, 2006 at 07:21 PM
HA!! I bet that was GREAT to witness LIVE!!!
shiver twice @ nazi boyscouts that's SUCH an oxymoron! lol
Posted by Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 07:21 PM
That's about the same thing as government intelligence.
Posted by Domingo on June 16, 2006 at 07:26 PM
Is it true that ann coldsore had a sex change operation. Ugh. She's pretty ugly with that horse face.
Every kid was FORCED to "join" the H/Y at around 9 years old. The last Pope (JP VI) was active in the resistance in Poland, but he had the benefit of distance.
Posted by dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 07:30 PM
I don't think so. I find MOST women slip into the catty, spite and jealousy mode much easier than men. Men just seem to want to get IN your face and shout mindless challenges like "BRING IT ON"
She's just dying from something. Maybe some leechs would help? lol
Here's a heads up about a good PBS Frontline documentary airing next Tuesday.
"The Dark Side." PBS Frontline takes on CheneyCo
Dinner time! Be back in a bit!
Great catching up! I sure get strength from this place most days! THANKS!!
You got trolls posting over at your blog, Dawnie? What are they doing? Begging you to help them get back on over here?
Some intrepid "reporter" did a birth certificate check for everyone born in CT in 1964, and there was NO Ann Coulter, but there WAS an "Andrew" Coulter. I think that's what started the rumor.
Anyhoo, with her possible VOTER FRAUD in Florida it seems as if she may have been fudging on her age when she filled out LEGAL and GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS and she is actually at least 2 years older than she claims.
It just keeps getting deeper with her.
good news for the whales. i guess with rove getting off the hook they figured the rest of the whales ought to get a break:
By Michael Christie
FRIGATE BAY, St. Kitts and Nevis (Reuters) - Japan suffered a resounding defeat on Friday at the International Whaling Commission, calming fears among conservationists that might finally win enough support in the world body to start attacking a ban on whaling.
The commission voted against two proposals by Japan, one for secret ballots that it said would allow Caribbean and Pacific nations to back its pro-whaling stance without fear of reprisal, and another to prevent the IWC from discussing the fate of dolphins and porpoises as well as whales.
Anti-whaling countries led by Australia, Britain, New Zealand and South Africa, and environmental groups, breathed a sigh of relief that their darkest fears -- of a whaling body dominated by pro-whaling Japan -- had not come about.
"So far we have managed to dodge the harpoon," said Joth Singh, director of wildlife and habitat protection for the International Fund for Animal Welfare, at the IWC's June 16-20 meeting in the Caribbean island of St. Kitts and Nevis.
Some intrepid "reporter" did a birth certificate check for everyone born in CT in 1964, and there was NO Ann Coulter, but there WAS an "Andrew" Coulter. I think that's what started the rumor.
Posted by DPD on June 16, 2006 at 07:43 PM
Could he/she be an illegal alien?
gee ya know the evidence for evolution just builds and builds...how is the evidence for biblical claims coming along?
Nation/World
Bird fossils in China called a missing link in evolution
June 16, 2006
Email this Print this BY RANDOLPH E. SCHMID
ASSOCIATED PRESS
WASHINGTON -- Separating the layers of sediment from an ancient lake was like turning the pages of a book to get a glimpse of life in the time of dinosaurs, an international team of scientists said Thursday.
"A world lost for more than 100 million years was being revealed to us," said Hai-lu You of the Chinese Academy of Geological Sciences.
What they found is being called the missing link in the evolution of birds, a loon-like creature that lived in northwest China. It is the earliest example of the modern birds that populate the Earth today.
Before their discovery, reported in today's issue of the journal Science, the only evidence for this creature -- Gansus yumenensis -- was a single, partial leg fossil discovered in the 1980s.
Now, researchers have dozens of nearly complete fossils of Gansus, said Matt Lamanna of the Carnegie Museum of Natural History in Pittsburgh.
"Most of the ancestors of birds from the age of dinosaurs are members of groups that died out and left no modern descendants. But Gansus led to modern birds, so it's a link between primitive birds and those we see today," Lamanna said in a meeting with reporters in Washington.
Previously, there was a gap in the fossils that should have come between ancient and modern species of birds, and "Gansus fits perfectly into this gap," added Jerald D. Harris of Dixie State College in Utah.
JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. - Democratic Senate candidate Claire McCaskill on Thursday proposed large fines and prison sentences for employers who hire illegal immigrants and charged that incumbent Sen. Jim Talent, R-Mo., is too cozy with companies that flout hiring laws.
I think the best thing for the democrat party is a petal to the metal campaign with Dr. Dean at the helm telling the country just where the bear s**ts in the woods. Get the message out, loud and proud, of exactly what policy changes will take place once democrats are elected. An breakdown of just who the enemy is, and what will happen to them once dems are elected. No more of this "move to the right" crap that has happened in the party.
Under FCC rules and federal law, radio and over-the-air television stations may not air obscene material at any time, and may not air indecent material between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. when children are more likely to be in the audience.
ann coldsore's comments are obscene and indecent. Why is she not being fined?
Just another Republican pervert, no big surprise, but one who Calls Bush a Liar??
BARTOW, Fla. - In Internet and phone chats with someone he thought was a 14-year-old girl, a Department of Homeland Security press aide talked about underage sex, boasted about his job and called President Bush a "liar," according to transcripts released by prosecutors.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060616/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/press_aide_arrested;_ylt=AqQeU0wSGbgEXIP18unfjGis0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
Bird fossils in China called a missing link in evolution
Posted by gregg on June 16, 2006 at 07:49 PM
I thought chimp was missing link. He is certainly missing a brain.
3 Examples of Lies and the truth about each one:
Crazy Republican Talking Points
GOP Lie: Saddam Hussein was the next Hitler and Iraq the next Nazi Germany
GOP Lie: Valerie Plame was "Well-known" Before Rove and Libby Outed Her.
GOP Lie: Zarqawi's Death a Major Blow Against Terrorism in Iraq
What more could be done to get the message out about the partys message?
Drunk again? Bad writing on my part. What I mean is what more could be done to spread the thoughts, policies, and intentions of the party?
Not good news for Gore Lovers!
According the latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll published late Thursday, Americans view former vice president unfavorably by 42%-30%, though 53% of Democrats give a thumbs-up, RAW STORY has found. Excerpts from the Journal's Washington Wire.
But his cause draws adherents: 59% say climate change warrants “some action” or “immediate” steps, up from 51% in 1999.
After appearing with Falwell, 2008 hopeful McCain sees favorable ratings among conservatives tick up to 40% from 36% in April. McCain’s standing among Republicans, 47% positive and 16% negative, exceeds the 36%-13% showing for potential rival Gingrich.
Among 2004 Bush backers, 8% say their 2006 vote will signal opposition to the president.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Gore_disapproval_remains_high_in_new_0616.html
OH NO! Now what are the Righties going to have to try and offset their Corruption????
And Jefferson drummed out of his committee position. boo hoo, the poor Republicans just can't get a break, can they?
Rep. McKinney Won't Be Charged in Scuffle
http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fapnews.myway.com%2F%2Farticle%2F20060616%2FD8I9I7580.html
I'm going to hang my hat on Al. He has the right approach since he lost his handlers. Moderation of the message will not win elections. Kerry is not going to be as direct as Gore.
Posted by gregg on June 16, 2006 at 07:49 PM
Gregg do you really think if I have an H bomb, alittle water, and dust, I can create my own planet?
the findings only prove how stupid some scientist are who think they have all the answers and years later have to so oh whoops, guess we have to change that because we just found this!
dk2, are you saying you are a fundementalist?
scientists that follow the scietific method hardly think they have all the answers, they think they have a process of inquiry that can lead to answers.
do you not think there is a large body of evidence supporting evolutionary theory?
Hello all,
I have a question I hope someone could please answer for me...
Hello all,
I have a question I hope someone could please answer for me... the donations this site is asking for (with the goal of 7500 donations...is that for the democracy bond drive? If so that would be pretty darn incredible that the democrats would be getting a bunch of money monthly!
Gregg, maybe we have seen to many "scientific statments" that were written by the manufacturer of a product they are trying to sell.
Posted by gregg on June 16, 2006 at 08:38 PM
do you not think there is a large body of evidence supporting evolutionary theory?
Absolutely not. I do not think there is a body of evidence supporting evolutionary theory!
I have worked around too many Doctors and Professors that have the I know it all theory and they are no different than anyone else who pulls there pants up, and they have no more or less scruples about science than a politician has about making laws that suit them.
fundementalist?
No, not fundementalist either.
MSNBC just reported that Dan Rather has been "forced out" from CBS. They are going to pay off his contract, and they want to go "in a new direction".
This is coming on top of Abrams being named GM of MSNBC in order to oversee its possible dismantling doesn't bode well for thuth in Media.
LOL Domingo - ya just never know.
OH I'm bak!
I just shot MSNBC a quick email thanks for such a fantastic interview with J Murtha! It was GREAT to see him in a REAL interview for a change! That is a REAL MAN now!! I mean as opposed to these chicken chits we got mostly goin down in the HOUSE! Hawk or not, he speaks from the cuff and tells the truth!
the republicans have a new political strategy for november
it's called the "cut and run" strategy.
like the "flip flop" strategy...
...the republicans have chosen...
..."a new simple minded catch phrase"...
...that the republicans will market to the uninformed swing voter
the republicans will attempt to paint the democrats as the "cut and run" party.
the republicans will attempt to convince the masses that democrats are the party that will not stay and fight a holy war...
...that the right wing evangelicals support
...that the oil industry sponsored
...that the men and women of the US Armed forces are dying for
...and that the corrupt republican administration lied about.
so beware Democrats...
...beware of the new republican "cut and run" election strategy of November 06.
letshelpan, my post is about a discovery made by: the Chinese Academy of Geological Sciences, reviewed and published in today's issue of the journal Science, and remarked on by: Matt Lamanna of the Carnegie Museum of Natural History in Pittsburgh and Jerald D. Harris of Dixie State College in Utah.
this is hardly bill frist telling you he knows mrs. schiavo is not brain dead because he watched a video tape of her.
this is stuff found in rocks that can be carbon dated, etc.
here are two pieces on evolution that might help:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/04/index.html
and:
http://fermat.nap.edu/html/creationism/evidence.html
for me questioning if the evidence is supportive of the theory at this point is like questioning if the power lines running from the poll outside into your home are really the source of your electricity.
i have nothing further to say as i suppose if folks who don't believe in evolution start voting democratic we might just win some elections....i guess??
Posted by gregg on June 16, 2006 at 09:06 PM have nothing further to say
I don't have much to say either. I'm not a scientist - more of an engineer and a logician
the theory of evolution doesn't disprove the existence of God
and an intelligent design doesn't have to preclude evolution.
In fact, one would think that those who beli