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Right-Wing Group Calling It Quits?


It looks like the Project for the New American Century, the neocon group that promoted the invasion of Iraq, is closing down.

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jen on June 16, 2006 at 09:42 AM

{{Jen}} {{Veneita}}!!

V, it's been too long, dear one. Glad to see you back in here.

jwwf

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RedLetter_Rev on June 16, 2006 at 09:49 AM


Here's a good one to remember and to use , peeps,
Frame it!


Stay the Course? What Course?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/15/AR2006061501793.html


(Morning {{Jen}}}


You can bet that PNAC will re-open just under a different name, (which their brilliant Republican framers will make up for them. ) PNAC has had too much bad press. People are using that at town meetings now.

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PamB on June 16, 2006 at 09:50 AM

I cannot stay here today, but I want to bring something from the last thread:

My message to CNN.com

The following article was on your site today:

"Rancorous election-year debate in the House culminates today as Republicans force Democrats to vote on a resolution that praises U.S. troops, labels the Iraq war part of a global fight on terrorism and says an "arbitrary date for the withdrawal or redeployment" of troops is not in the national interest. The House vote comes a day after the Senate rejected a call to withdraw combat troops by year's end."

What kind of crap reporting is this! It strongly endorses the idea that Democrats do not want to praise the troops or win this debacle in Iraq. That is WRONG!!! Your article today on CNN.com must have been written for you by the Republican party. You are not doing your job as a news source. Instead of informing the people, you are spreading the propaganda of the right-wing, inept and corrupt republican party. America needs you to be independent and report the news, NOT THE REPUBLICAN TALKING POINTS!!!!


Write CNN and blast them for their partisan reporting. Do it now.

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Chicago on June 16, 2006 at 09:51 AM

Good morning Jen & Pam!

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Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 09:53 AM

I have to go. Keep up the good fight fellow Dems. We have got to have a plan to take back the press and stop the media from acting as a mouth-piece for the Republican stinking talking points. About the only tool we have is our power as consumers. Write.
AGHGHGHAAAHGHAHGH!!!
Outta here.

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Chicago on June 16, 2006 at 09:55 AM

{{{Rev, Pam, Kristen}}} Be well {{{Chi}}}

Sad day. An Urban Paradise Is Plowed Under

Despite help from Hollywood's progressive celebrities, L.A.'s biggest community garden is raided and bulldozed away.

This is their justice, eh?" said Tezozomoc, elected representative of the community gardeners called the South Central Farmers. "This is their dialogue."

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jen on June 16, 2006 at 10:04 AM

Morning

You California folks will laugh at this but my AUNT got all upset last night! She felt an earthquake on the top of her mountain in NC! LOL

We felt nada over this way! Am waiting to see if DEB felt anything as it was pretty much centered around her area! Verrrrry inta-res-tink !

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 10:05 AM

Man, in an interview with military general who is a strategist for the defense dept, gives a little insight on what these idiots base their beliefs on:

As a strategist, we don't look at the current situation, we make our decisions by looking 10 years out....

Iraq is working, we can tell because there have been two significant elections, a constitutional referendum, more iraqis have taken the uniform and taken on the fight....

the insurgency will end when forces inside the country are able to quell rebellion,this can not be done by any occupying force, it must be done by the iraqi's themselves. (did he tell this to bush and the pugs?)

When asked about the civil war in iraq he said: we don't see it as a civil war, a civil war is a break down of government and a breakdown by the military. This remarkable iraqi army has gotten rid of the bathist in it's midst and held together and remains faithful to the iraqi government. (didn't i read where some of the army recruits have defected to militias?)

He also asserted that if we REALLY wanted to, we could have both Afghan and Iraq stabelized in 1 1/2 years...well why the hell haven't we done THAT?

He tells us that the war on terror will end when the this ideology is rejected by the mainstream islamic world.

He finished by saying that every time we go after groups like al qaeda it can't be a military solution...it must be a "soft war" by taking away their financing (they haven't done that yet?) and take away the internet as a way of recruiting....what?

just to illustrate how intelligent the pug's intelligence is.....

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momoaizo on June 16, 2006 at 10:08 AM

ARGH

Why didn't I just keep heading north when I moved up here last April?

I didn't go far enough apparently. This country has already gone to HELL and the REST of the planet will soon reject. (protest, eject) You name it!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 10:16 AM

Posted by jen on June 16, 2006 at 09:42 AM

Don't bet on it, babygirl. They never quit; snakes just go underground. Word up: poke around for Centers for Creative Leadership or similar titles. Chances are good that there's probably one near you and it's conveniently close to some Heritage foundation "academy". Juuuust sayin'...

Posted by Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 10:05 AM
Heya, GF... mountain tremors aren't all that uncommon. With this heat wave comin' on, we'll just set around and shake-n-back :-D

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RedLetter_Rev on June 16, 2006 at 10:18 AM

Posted by RedLetter_Rev on June 16, 2006 at 10:18 AM

Heat wave??? LOL surely you jest! Might reach 85 here today and to this Florida gal that's coooooool! ;-)

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 10:20 AM

Rev and Pam, just posting the article ;), I don't believe those folks are going anywhere! 'ceptin maybe to hell.

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jen on June 16, 2006 at 10:25 AM

Posted by jen on June 16, 2006 at 10:25 AM

I'm thinkin they've arrived and WE are the ones that should leave!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 10:27 AM

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self evident......

This sounds as rational today as it did over 200 years ago!!!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 10:32 AM

Just stopped in for a second...

Brian,
duh! obviously I ALREADY wrote CNN.

We need to get Murtha's face on the tube as much as possible, because if ANYONE supports the troops, it is him. The only poeple the idoit republicans are supporting are other idiot republicans. Party before country is the Republican policy.

As to Kerry "making this reporting happen", that makes no sense. Not suprising, really.

Outta here.

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Chicago on June 16, 2006 at 10:40 AM

Dawnie,

This week's idiocies from the radical right activist SCOTUS judges flies right in the very face of The Declaration. The reason that we have protections against warrantless search and seizure and against unannounced barge-ins from authorities is because that is exactly what the British were doing to the colonists. They resented the intrusions then and we certainly resent it now.

It amazes me that Congress and SCOTUS are so unforgiveably ignorant of American history and the foundations of our laws. It amazes me that the wacko right are so gullible and so happy to throw their rights and protections away so readily.

Fools.

They're going to keep on, and find themselves in the unenviable position of the original Mad King George. If the reich aren't pushing for a complete breakdown of the Constitution and American society, then no one is. Their actions treasonous even on the face of it.

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RedLetter_Rev on June 16, 2006 at 10:43 AM

Project for the New American Century, the neocon group that promoted the invasion of Iraq, is closing down.

Posted by jen on June 16, 2006 at 09:42 AM

If justice were served these people would be served with an indictment on Jan 20th '07 and stand trial for conspiracy and all matters related to causing the deaths of thousands of innocent people. Their "Plan" is the basis of lots of evil doings.

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letshelpdean on June 16, 2006 at 10:45 AM

Posted by RedLetter_Rev on June 16, 2006 at 10:43 AM

They ARE traitors! And the military they are adopting NOW are trained mercenaries and poor despots looking for a free ride to citizenship!

Nothing much honorable about the former and as for the latter, I have only sympathy for them as I'm sure they will be the FIRST to be sent out on patrol! :-(

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 10:57 AM

Time for some human fuel. Be back later!

{{love you guys}}

Peace!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 11:03 AM

A repost from last night - jic anyone missed it...

DumpW,
after you printed that, I googled Dr. Lawrence Britt and the Fourteen Points of Fascism.....FOLKS, THIS IS SOBERING:

14 POINTS OF FASCISM


1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism
2. Disdain for the importance of human rights
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause
4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism
5. Rampant sexism
6. A controlled mass media
7. Obsession with national security
8. Religion and ruling elite tied together
9. Power of corporations protected
10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated
11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts
12. Obsession with crime and punishment
13. Rampant cronyism and corruption
14. Fraudulent elections

NOW IF THIS WOULDN'T MAKE A GOOD LTE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD! (damn, that's scarry!)

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momoaizo on June 16, 2006 at 11:07 AM

Yep momo, that list is a powerful one, especially the first time you see it.

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jen on June 16, 2006 at 11:30 AM

Here's the list of yeas and nays, no votes and the "other thing"

interesting is that WAXMAN decided NOT to vote along with Senselessbrenner and Sessions? Jez he's not keeping good company these days!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 11:38 AM

Repuglicans across the land are rejoicing over President Bush's alleged resurgence this week. "He's back," they say. "The Comeback Kid," they're calling him. One right wing columnist, Clark S. Judge, went so far as to say that "the president just had the best week of his second term, perhaps of his entire presidency...." and talks of Bush's "stunning new momentum" that's "proving a transformative success on the domestic as well as international front." Excuse me, but I seem to have missed the memo outlining Bush's big accomplishes this week. As usual, the bar is set so low for this president that all he needs to do is show a pulse and we're supposed to declare a national holiday in his honor.

http://www.ostroyreport.blogspot.com/#61606

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PamB on June 16, 2006 at 11:38 AM

THIS is what I call GOOD Christians!!! Yea Washington State!

Troops refusing Iraq duty get a haven

~snip~
By MIKE BARBER
P-I REPORTER

Prompted by a Fort Lewis Army officer's decision to refuse to fight in Iraq, the First United Methodist Church of Tacoma has declared itself a sanctuary for servicemen and servicewomen who also don't want to go to Iraq.

The 300-member congregation's administrative council voted last weekend to open its doors beginning this Saturday after 1st Lt. Ehren Watada announced that he thinks the war in Iraq is illegal and that he has sought to resign his commission.

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 11:48 AM

WooHOO Denny's goin DOWN!!

Records reveal Hastert's hand in land deal
$3 million gain for 3 partners in 3 years

By Mike Dorning and Andrew Zajac
Washington Bureau
Published June 15, 2006

WASHINGTON -- Republican House Speaker Dennis Hastert and two partners turned a profit of more than $3 million on property they accumulated and sold in just over three years near the route of a proposed controversial freeway on the western fringe of suburban Chicago, according to land records and financial disclosure reports released Wednesday

Hastert spokesman Ron Bonjean rejected the notion that the land, located 5 1/2 miles from the proposed Prairie Parkway route, rose in value because of the highway project. The speaker long has been an aggressive proponent of the highway and helped secure more than $200 million in federal funding through an earmark in federal transportation legislation.

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 11:51 AM

It looks as if CNN changed its piece on the vote that Chicago was referring to...

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BlueinIdaho on June 16, 2006 at 11:52 AM

hEY {{{DAWNIE}}}}

How is your head? hope you are feeling better.

this morning when i heard about the tremor in the mountains, i immediately thought of you....glad to hear no damage done.

{{{{JEN}}}}

As soon as i found it, i knew you had already seen it....makes you wonder why more dems don't use this against the pugs....good fodder, you know!

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momoaizo on June 16, 2006 at 11:53 AM

Hey {{Dawnie}}

Hastert is another Crooked corrupt Republican turd that Melhmann will have to spray perfume on !(per Jon Stewart's definition).

If the REpublicans in the House, voting right now, on not putting a date on withdrawal for our troops shows that THEY support the troops, what do they think the 70% of americans who think this war was based on lies, is nothing more than an occupation, and that our boys should get the hell out of there are thinking about them!!! I hope the Dems take this and RUN with it. i.e. Republicans do not care if American boys get killed for Lies!

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PamB on June 16, 2006 at 11:57 AM

bbl.

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PamB on June 16, 2006 at 11:58 AM

WASHINGTON - House Democrats on Wednesday demanded that Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt turn over records detailing his use of a leased jet he reportedly flew on 19 times to travel to 99 cities, including a trip to Utah in March.
Leavitt, a former three-term governor of Utah, defended his actions. He told the House Ways and Means Committee his use of the leased jet was approved by Congress last year and was essential to his mission of helping prepare for a flu pandemic and encouraging seniors to enroll in a new drug benefit.
snip
"What he did is illegal. He was using a plane that was set aside for the Centers for Disease Control to be used as what you and I would think of as a medevac plane for anthrax attacks and that sort of thing," Stark said in an interview. Congress ''certainly did not mention using it on something that would be a public relations trip."
snip
Leavitt spent about 200 hours in the air, at a cost to taxpayers of $720,000.
snip
The CDC uses the jet for quick response to ship samples to labs for testing, deliver vaccines or ship scientists to the location of a potential outbreak to investigate - all situations where time is crucial, said CDC spokesman Tom Skinner.

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 11:58 AM

Hey {{Linnnnnnnda, Pammy, everyone!}}

Much better thanks! LOL Maybe it was an earthquake headache! We felt nothing here. My rather heavy 3rd floor neighbor and his rather heavy dog are enough of a shake that I wouldn't probably notice!

Thank goodness they only get noisey on their way OUT or IN. :-\

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 12:05 PM

It's great when Idaho makes the National News but not for a severed head flying out of a pick up. Ewwww, my apologies for Idaho.

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BlueinIdaho on June 16, 2006 at 12:17 PM

FWIW, here's a list of the democrats who voted yea on House Res. 861 today. If your rep is among them, you know what you need to do.

Barrow
Bean
Berman
Berry
Bishop (GA)
Boren
Boswell
Boucher
Cardoza
Case
Chandler
Cooper
Costa
Costello
Cramer
Cuellar
Davis (TN)
Edwards
Etheridge
Gordon
Green, Gene
Herseth
Higgins
Holden
Kind
Larsen (WA)
Lipinski
Lynch
Marshall
Matheson
McCarthy
McIntyre
Melancon
Moore (KS)
Peterson (MN)
Ross
Salazar
Smith (WA)
Snyder
Spratt
Taylor (MS)
Thompson (MS)

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tylinCA on June 16, 2006 at 12:18 PM

Posted by BlueinIdaho on June 16, 2006 at 12:17 PM

Hey Blue, I saw that news last night and had to read it twice. I couldn't believe that guy was driving down the road with his wife's head in the truck. Has it be exceptionally hot down there or what?!

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Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 12:19 PM

OMG this is JUST too sad! gtg bbl Peace Plllllllllease!!! :-((

Bomber kills 10 in Baghdad mosque
Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:09am ET167

By Michael Georgy

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A suicide bomber killed at least 10 people inside a Shi'ite mosque in Baghdad on Friday, a day after the national security adviser said al Qaeda's days in Iraq are numbered.

The bomber blew himself up as worshippers gathered for prayers at the Buratha mosque, an old site which is revered by Shi'ites. Twenty-five people were wounded.

Mosque guard Abdullah Hussein said the attack was carried out by a suicide bomber who had hidden explosives in his sandals to avoid security checks. Police have not confirmed this.

"A guard tried to stop him but he blew himself up and nothing was left of him except his head. You can see it if you want, it's over there," he said, pointing toward a tray in the mosque where a severed human head lay.

It is not the first time a suicide bomber has killed at the Buratha mosque. On April 7, three suicide bombers dressed as women attacked it, killing at least 71 people.

Friday's blast was the type of violence the new leader of al Qaeda in Iraq, who succeeded Arab Abu Musab al-Zarqawi last week, had vowed to maintain as part of a war against Shi'ites and the U.S.-backed government.

Abu Ayyub al-Masri vowed three days ago to avenge the death of Zarqawi, who was killed by a U.S. air strike last week.

Shortly after the mosque blast, mortar bombs hit houses and shops on the edge of Baghdad, killing at least three people. Continued...

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 12:20 PM

"House Rejects Timetable for Iraq
Pullout"


"In a 256-153 vote, the GOP-led House approved a nonbinding resolution that praises U.S. troops, labels the Iraq war part of the larger global fight against terrorism and says an "arbitrary date for the withdrawal or redeployment" of troops is not in the national interest."

article here

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dk2 on June 16, 2006 at 12:20 PM

Sorry, Dawn, for repeating info you'd already posted. That'll teach to read the blog first!

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tylinCA on June 16, 2006 at 12:21 PM

Carry on, stalwart dems! BBL.

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tylinCA on June 16, 2006 at 12:22 PM
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dk2 on June 16, 2006 at 12:22 PM

All this time I thought that King George couldn't speak correctly because of low intelligence...turns out he has had a hook in his mouth all this time...

Documents: al-Qaida Sought U.S.-Iran War(AP) -

BAGHDAD, Iraq-A blueprint for trying to start a war between the United States and Iran was among a "huge treasure" of documents found in the hideout of terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, Iraqi officials said Thursday.

http://news.findlaw.com/ap/i/631/06-15-2006/d838003632500791.html

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BlueinIdaho on June 16, 2006 at 12:24 PM

Posted by tylinCA on June 16, 2006 at 12:21 PM

Hey I only posted the link. You posted the names. ;-)

ok I really have to go. Peace!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 12:26 PM

Posted by Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 12:19 PM

The guy lived about two miles from me--that's where they found the rest of his wife, sitting in her car in the garage.

The whole thing is horrific.

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BlueinIdaho on June 16, 2006 at 12:37 PM
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BlueinIdaho on June 16, 2006 at 12:38 PM

Bush Signs Legislation on Broadcast Decency
Measure Boosts Maximum Fine to $325,000

By Peter Baker
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, June 16, 2006;

Complaining that television and radio shows in recent years have "too often pushed the bounds of decency," President Bush signed legislation yesterday to escalate dramatically the penalties against broadcasters who violate federal standards.


"The language is becoming coarser during the times when it's more likely children will be watching television," Bush said, citing a study of nighttime programming. "It's a bad trend, a bad sign." He noted that complaints to regulators have exploded since he took office. "People are saying, 'We're tired of it, and we expect the government to do something about it.' "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/
article/2006/06/15/AR2006061500951.html?referrer
=email&referrer=email

This bill kills two birds with one stone. The Republicans can point to at least one "accomplishment" this year while pandering to their right-wing zealots. And it also limits freedom of speech.

The rest of the free world is watching closely. Bush is taking this nation out of the sunshine and into a dark place no democracy would go. He continues to isolate us from our allies and encourages those that attacked us on 9/11.

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SandyH on June 16, 2006 at 12:49 PM

A couple of ideas I have for the upcoming election:

1. We still lag behind the Republicans in terms of our effectiveness with sound bites. One step toward remedying that: everytime they denounce Democratic plans on Iraq as "cut and run", we denounce their plans as "stay and die."

2. Any chance we can get permission to use The Who's "Won't Get Fooled Again" as the Democratic campaign song this year?

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Terry on June 16, 2006 at 12:49 PM

Our Democrat Congres folks should submit "signing statments" when they hold there nose and vote for one of the sham resolutions that the Repuglithugs force on them.

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letshelpdean on June 16, 2006 at 01:00 PM

Posted by Terry on June 16, 2006 at 12:49 PM

Awesome ideas Terry! Especially like the song idea.

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BlueinIdaho on June 16, 2006 at 01:02 PM

Posted by Chicago on June 16, 2006 at 09:51 AM

I wouldn't be too upset. CNN does this every time the administration launches another strategy to fool people into thinking they are really attending to business. How many times have the Congressional Republicans staged these mock debates and votes on Iraq which have nothing to do with ending this war? It's high drama for the cameras and their silly sheep.

There has been no progress in Iraq in the last week except that the new Prime Minister inssued a curfew to cut down on the "public" activities of the warring factors. Once it's lifted, they will come out in the open again. They are fighting a civil war not Islmaic terrorists.

If there is anything you can learn from history, it's that insurgents are patient. They will take this time to regroup, form new and consolidate old alliances, re-arm and re-structure, solicit more donations from Moslims in other countries, and lay the frame work for their next attacks after the curfew is lifted.

It's a waiting game. They have all the time in the world. They know that sooner or later the foreign occupiers in the United States will run out of money and have to attend to the problems they have been neglecting at home.

We will leave with nothing except a lot of shattered lives and neocon illusions. Time is on their side.

The Republicans continue to neglect the economic and social problems at home, while they preem and posture about patriotism they don't have. They have been doing it now going on 14 years in the Repbulican-controlled Congress and 5 years in the White House. It's really getting old and just makes the problems we face more grave.

The Iraqi underground is winning their war agaist the neocons and they know it. The Republicans are fooling only themselves.

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SandyH on June 16, 2006 at 01:14 PM

Terry,

I like that..."stay and die" as opposed to "cut and run"....i am going to use that every chance i get!


Good talking point! Will look good in a LTE also!

Thanks Terry!


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momoaizo on June 16, 2006 at 01:14 PM

Hastert is another Crooked corrupt Republican turd that Melhmann will have to spray perfume on !(per Jon Stewart's definition).

Posted by PamB on June 16, 2006 at 11:57 AM

Pam, I believe there is an old Sixties protest song by Burt Backerak(?}/Dionne Warwick that goes something like that, "Spray it with cologne and the whole world smells sweet." It think it's called "Are We Living in a World Made of Paper Machee?" It was really quite pretty and the lyrics were right on the mark.

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SandyH on June 16, 2006 at 01:26 PM

Posted by Terry on June 16, 2006 at 12:49 PM

I don't know about that line ..."Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..."

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DPD on June 16, 2006 at 01:29 PM

SandyH,

Glad you are here, i always seem to miss you....wondering if you would put together a lte with your SS points, i would love to send to local paper and bet a lot on here would do the same.

You know, the "ONE VOICE" thing!

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momoaizo on June 16, 2006 at 01:33 PM

New CNN Poll: should us set timetable to eventually withdraw troops from iraq?

Yes = 53%

No 41%

but CNN still says the country is divided evenly....is my math bad

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momoaizo on June 16, 2006 at 01:35 PM

Hi, momo.

I'll work on the lte, but I'm usually too wordy. They like short,snappy stuff. I've only had two published. But I often get e-mails from the staff asking questions and wanting my point of view of various subjects. You know when you've connected with the staff.

I'll get back with you.

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SandyH on June 16, 2006 at 01:45 PM

Thanks Sandy,

You may be "wordy" but you certainly know how to make a point!

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momoaizo on June 16, 2006 at 01:50 PM

Posted by PamB on June 16, 2006 at 11:38 AM

Awe, those accomplishments. It seems to me that Bush is just trying to cover his tracks. He's accomplished zilch since he took office. Look at the facts.

We are in the deepest debt to foreign powers in our history, in a useless war, our medical system is in crisis, our FEMA response capabilities are shatter at a time when we are at great risk from terrorists, we are losing whole industries and our middle-class, we are increasingly dependent on a diminishing form of energy, and we have alienated our allies.

That is the Republican list of accomplishments. We are far worse off than when they took power.

We are in very grave danger of losing both our superpower status and our Constitutional form of government.

Awe, he's on a roll again. And he's taking us all along for the disasterous ride.

We have enough votes to throw the bums out this fall...even in some very red states. But I fear our party did too little to insure that those votes will be counted.

gotta run. later.

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SandyH on June 16, 2006 at 02:02 PM

Ok, so Chimpy has landed in Seattle. This is a hold your stomach post but and I don't want anyone to rant at me for the Bush lovefest these pictures look like. What I want you to see is the caption used on Rove's picture.

I can't post directly to the pictures. Go to the Front Page of the PI and select

See Photo Gallery

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Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 02:49 PM

Hi to all you fellow Democrats out there. Two things:

1 - Those of you in Seattle, there is a fundraiser for Jim McDermott, our 7th district representative, tomorrow afternoon. Rick Steves is speaking on the topic of what they think of us overseas. While he is widely viewed as one of the most liberal members of the House, Jim McDermott does an excellent job of representing the views and interests of all of us who live in his district. Please let me know if you would like more information on this event.

2 - I am totally appalled at the glee with which our President, and everyone else below him, speaks of killing al-Zarqawi. I take no joy in ANYONE's death. This man should have been tried in court for his crimes. I suspect the reason our president did not advocate this is because then he, too, would have to be tried in the world court for HIS crimes. Bush also seems to see "War" as an excuse to dismiss any and all law, substituting instead his own declarations as if his word IS THE LAW.

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Marc on June 16, 2006 at 02:50 PM

Hi Marc, hope all are well. Where is the fundraiser for McDermott?

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Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 02:52 PM

Terrapin - I can't figure out
Terrapin - if it's an end or the beginning
Terrapin - but the train's got its brakes on
and the whistle is screaming: TERRAPIN

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HAYDUKE on June 16, 2006 at 02:53 PM

Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 02:52 PM:

I don't have the exact address with me at the office... its in Fremont under the Aurora bridge, right on Lake Union. Email me if you are interested and I'll forward the meeting notice when I get home.

Things are okay with us, though I think my wife is doing too much childcare for our daughter.

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Marc on June 16, 2006 at 03:04 PM

Congrats on the new grandbaby! The email is on it's way.

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Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 03:12 PM

Ann Coulter: What's in a Name?

Ann Coulter's foul mouth and disposition have made their way into the news and talk show circuit again, while she promotes another of her shoddily written diatribes. Her most recent insults won't even be dignified here with a response. She continues to proudly and stridently represent the 'compassionate conservativism' (LOL) of the reactionary Republican party.


The 'woman' calls herself a 'christian', but is not one in any traditional sense. No doubt, Jesus would not recognize her or her supporters as such. Yet, she sure is a 'coulter'. It is defined as the 'wedge' at the front of a plow. Wedge is what she does, and with her uncanny likeness to a 'horse' perhaps she pulls the plow, too. She certainly is effective at stridently sowing the seeds of dissension.


Any honest observer knows that both her views and her methods of expression have proven to serve no public interest. They only monger hate and division. The hope is that the MSM will not continue to give her the cynical, self-serving forum she seems to thrive on. But, likely the cynical, self-serving and sympathetic publisher and press will continue to do so as long as it brings in the cynical readers and viewers; and the subsequent self-serving sales and advertising revenues.

Blog On
PLANET REVOLUTION Blog

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planetpatriot on June 16, 2006 at 03:13 PM

Posted by Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 02:49 PM

Scurries just like the rat he is...

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BlueinIdaho on June 16, 2006 at 03:16 PM

Posted by Marc on June 16, 2006 at 02:50 PM

After the Saddam Hussein trial debaucle, King George will never let anyone be captured alive.

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BlueinIdaho on June 16, 2006 at 03:17 PM

Hey Blue, Cd'A made the big time, and not for a good reason.

Fired – For Love Without Marriage

(AP) The owners of a roller skating rink have fired an 18-year-old woman they called one of their "Top 10" employees because she moved in with her boyfriend, violating a company ethics policy that prohibits "live-in relationships of an intimate nature."

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Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 03:20 PM

Posted by Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 03:20 PM

Okay, that almost made my lunch come up. I would bet my life savings that these owners have some skeletons in their closet that violates their own handbook. Disgusting.

"Skate Plaza's moral and ethics policy also bans such behaviors as "public displays of promiscuous activities, homosexuality, intoxication, use of profanity, lewd behavior, use of illegal drugs, child abuse, spouse abuse, unlawful relationships, cross-dressing, stalking and nudity.""

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BlueinIdaho on June 16, 2006 at 03:29 PM

The truth is simple
Use your civilian intelligence
Can America afford two more years
Republican President
Republican Senate
Republican Congress
Republican Constitutional values
Republican Democracy and Freedom
Republican International Law
Republican American Law
Republican Corporate lobbying
Republican Corporate Government
Republican Corporate Welfare
Republican green-blooded religion
Republican poverty retirements
Republican outsourcing America
If this is not enough to scare you then
Vote Republican to see the worst scenario.
Republican theatrics it is a horror picture.

David Young

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dlesterpoet on June 16, 2006 at 03:53 PM

Republican Hollywood Productions Presents “Mission Accomplished”

“Mission Accomplished” film about Washington’s DC intelligence
Story credits by George W Bush Fantasy WMD Productions
Intelligence credits by Cheney’s Halliburton No Bid Task force
Stage play by Donald Rumsfeld, White House Iraqi War Strategist
Screenplay credits by Carl Rove’s Right Wing Globalization Plan
Sound credits by the Republican Good Ole Green Blooded Choir
Security credits by Patriot Act Warrantless Domestic Spying Corporation
Lighting credits by Katrina Cathedral Floodlight Promise Company
Research credits by Tricky Dick Watergate Investigative Productions

Come see how John Wayne Bush comes in to save the day in his flight suit
How he single handily battled, changing the Iraq War outcome, by his speech.

David Young

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dlesterpoet on June 16, 2006 at 04:24 PM

Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 03:20 PM:

I'm afraid very little surprises me after this week's supreme court decision to substantially eliminate any protections we have from the police!

Imagine my shock and surprise last night, the same day as this decision, when I found the local police knocking on our front door between 9 and 10pm last night. They were investigating a hit-and-run accident that reportedly happened in front of our house, and involved a car reportedly registered at our address! Well, it wasn't us, but I sure did have to think about every word I gave in response to his questions. I was just waiting to be carted away for some trumped up charge due to my Liberal beliefs, and that's Liberal with a capital L.

Nothing seems to have come for their visit, but I still find it unsettling.

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Marc on June 16, 2006 at 05:09 PM

Coulter calls for Murtha's murder.

(snip)

In an email interview with John Hawkins at the Right Wing News web site, Coulter was asked, among other things, to offer short comments on several individuals. After harmlessly dismissing former Ambassador Joseph Wilson as the "World's most intensely private exhibitionist," she said of Rep. John Murtha, the hawkish ex-Marine and now antiwar congressman: "The reason soldiers invented 'fragging.'"

(more)

Latest Ann Coulter Outrage: On Fragging John Murtha

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DPD on June 16, 2006 at 05:13 PM

14 POINTS OF FASCISM

Posted by momoaizo on June 16, 2006 at 11:07 AM

Hi momo,

I am convinced that bush is the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler. Hitler died shortly before chimp was born. cheney may be the reincarnation of
Rasputin.

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dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 05:25 PM

Just before the election, Hollywood should do a Dumb and Dumber movie featuring bush and cheney.

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dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 05:27 PM

Hello all!
DPD repubs don't really like her. They use her so that we will respond to HER instead of Telling the Armerican people OUR plan.

Terry i LOVE that idea!!!!

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WendyG on June 16, 2006 at 05:31 PM

To all who believed the "swift-boat" lies: one more of your fellow Americans have died for your ignorance and two more are in grave danger.

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A U.S. soldier was killed and two were unaccounted for Friday after they came under attack at a traffic checkpoint in Yusufiya.

A search was under way for the two missing soldiers in the town, about 20 miles southwest of Baghdad.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/16/iraq.main/index.html

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BlueinIdaho on June 16, 2006 at 05:33 PM

Sorry American. Wow i can type!!

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WendyG on June 16, 2006 at 05:36 PM

Posted by WendyG on June 16, 2006 at 05:31 PM

Oh, some do like her very much. She says the things they believe but are too afraid to say out loud.

Then there is Leno, who I have no respect for anymore after he let her use his program to preach hate. His program tried to drum up publicity by calling the show a "smackdown" between Carlin and Coulter. Carlin must have dozed off like old men sometimes do...

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BlueinIdaho on June 16, 2006 at 05:39 PM

Posted by Marc on June 16, 2006 at 05:09 PM

Marc try having the homeland security police drive down your driveway for no apparent reason. We have new neighbors just down the street and he took a detour down my long driveway about a week ago and then backed up and went home. I almost stopped by to ask if there was something I could help him with, but thought that might be just too bold, even for me.

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Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 05:40 PM

Hey Blue, I wonder what happened to my new found admirer.;)

I hope Bruno finds his way out of that locked room soon, this place could use a bit of livening up. :)

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Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 05:43 PM

I am so sick and tired of rush fatbaugh, handjobity, coldsore and o'liarly. All they ever do is whine about Democrats and badmouth our Democratic leaders. When are the stupid morons that listen to their shit day after day going to grow up. They are the ones that have led to the utter division of the parties and the hatred of anyone who is not a repug. In return we hate their guts for what they have done to our America.

Lincoln said "A house divided against itself cannot stand". That is so true today.


The repugs need to go a long way before they even come close to meeting the intent of Lincoln's Second Inaugural Address. We need a new president NOW that will follow these precepts.

"With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in; to bind up the nation's wounds; to care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow and his orphan - to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace, among ourselves, and with all nations."

the repugs hate America, they haven't a charitable bone in their bodies, they don't give a damn about veterans and their widows, and they don't want peace among ourselves or other nations.

All they care about is winning elections and dominating and treating all Americans like shit. When are these total unmitigated a**holes that vote for them going to grow up?

I just heard on the news that the chimp administration has warned North Korea that they had better not shoot off their latest rocket. It's none of that assholes business what North Korea does. When is it going to end, after we are all cremated.

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dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 05:48 PM

Posted by Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 05:43 PM

Awwwww, you miss him!

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BlueinIdaho on June 16, 2006 at 05:49 PM

Leadership comes from having your man in the WH. Otherwise, you have just as many opinions as you have individuals.

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BlueinIdaho on June 16, 2006 at 05:51 PM

Posted by BlueinIdaho on June 16, 2006 at 05:49 PM

Well, I wouldn't go quite that far!

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Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 05:55 PM

Posted by Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 05:55 PM

LOL. I get what you mean...his irascibility kind of grows on you. :)

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BlueinIdaho on June 16, 2006 at 06:11 PM

It has been absolutely beautiful in Seattle this afternoon.

And yet...Bush Gets Rained On

Do you think Gawd was telling him to get out our Fair city before the walls came crumbling down!

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Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 06:14 PM

Speaking of irascible, where has Gregg been?

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BlueinIdaho on June 16, 2006 at 06:15 PM

Wal-Mart did not violate a pharmacist's civil rights when it fired him for refusing on religious grounds to fill prescriptions for contraceptives and failing to arrange fill-in help for customers, a federal judge in Madison, Wis., has ruled.

Although the company was willing to accommodate plaintiff Neil Noesen's religious beliefs by allowing him to refuse to fill contraceptive prescriptions, it could not reasonably allow him to place telephone customers on hold indefinitely or walk away from in-store customers without notifying another pharmacist to fill in, Judge John Shabaz concluded.

http://news.findlaw.com/andrews/em/emp/20060616/20060616noesen.html

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BlueinIdaho on June 16, 2006 at 06:25 PM

Posted by Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 06:14 PM

That ahole was also in New Mexico today. THIS SHOULD NOT BE TOLERATED. HE IS NOT RUNNING FOR ANY OFFICE. HE IS PISSING AWAY PRECIOUS JET FUEL WHICH WE ARE PAYING FOR. THIS CREEP WILL BE KNOWN AS THE WORST PRESIDENT WE HAVE EVER HAD AND IS TRYING TO SCREW US ALL. BEND OVER.

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dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 06:34 PM

Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 05:40 PM:

It sure IS scary out there!

I never thought I'd live to see the secret police here in the United States, but they are here. And they are our neighbors. You really can't just say what you believe any longer... it will all be monitored for Correctness.

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Marc on June 16, 2006 at 06:36 PM

Posted by dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 06:34 PM

how did he get to New Mexico so quickly? He didn't arrive in Seattle until after 9:00 am and was here for a few hours.

Did they run out of gas for Air Force1?

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Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 06:47 PM

Posted by Marc on June 16, 2006 at 06:36 PM

Hitler's Gestapo had the same arrangement. Children report their parents to the Gestapo and they one night just disappeared. Neighbor reported neighbor and they disappeared. They were most likely questioned, tortured then sent to a concentration camp where if they did not die of starvation, they were gassed and cremated.

It appears we are close to this scenario. If a person disagrees with this fascist administration they are called traitors. This is the first step.

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dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 06:51 PM

Did they run out of gas for Air Force1?

Posted by Kristen on June 16, 2006 at 06:47 PM

I read in the local Albuquerque paper that he was here to stump for Heather Wilson our local repug congresswoman. She votes in lock step with congress. Hopefully she will be dumped in November. She is an Air Force Academy graduate and is a hawk. Maybe it is an evening meeting.

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dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 06:54 PM

Echoing retracted Bush administration characterization, Limbaugh labeled Gitmo suicides a "PR move"

Limbaugh, who frequently refers to the Guantánamo facility as "Club Gitmo," suggested the President Bush's surprise appearance in Iraq was not a public relations move but rather, "the PR move was the three suicides at Club Gitmo."

By the way, somebody wrote that this is a "PR move," the president to bop into Baghdad and bop back out.

It was a PR move? Right. PR move: flying into Baghdad where a missile could kill him. The PR move was the three suicides at Club Gitmo. That's the PR move, folks.

Media Matters

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Domingo on June 16, 2006 at 06:54 PM

This is for ___William @ prodigy . com

Whomever you are I'm sorry I deleted your recent guestbook entry. Not because I don't know you but because when I went to your "fav" link it was some link for prescription drugs!

I figured you were trying to advertise and somehow thought by being nice I'd let it slide?

Anyway if that was not the case, I'm sorry and you can leave another with no fav link and I'll be sure to post it!

And Bruno I did post yours. Thanks for not being rude.

Evening ALL Dems! What's the good word?

Hopefully something. Randi was GREAT today (as usual) I wish I could see her with Ron Reagan in Wash. tomorrow!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 06:56 PM

Posted by dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 06:51 PM

except there are MORE of us than there are of THEM........ I think they are like 18 percent or something? I know that's enough to do a LOT of damage!

From what I read about Germany there were MORE brainwashed youngins turning in their parents?

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 06:58 PM

Troubletown: Godless whores

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Domingo on June 16, 2006 at 07:01 PM

Oh, some do like her very much. She says the things they believe but are too afraid to say out loud.

Then there is Leno, who I have no respect for anymore after he let her use his program to preach hate. His program tried to drum up publicity by calling the show a "smackdown" between Carlin and Coulter. Carlin must have dozed off like old men sometimes do...

Posted by BlueinIdaho on June 16, 2006 at 05:39 PM

If any Democrat said some of the things she has said about killing people they would be in jail but since she is a repug that will never happen.

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dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 07:01 PM

lol and my callin them "youngins" means 20 somethings! jez it's hell to get old!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 07:03 PM

Posted by Domingo on June 16, 2006 at 07:01 PM

yep it's gonna come back on them in spades!!

And I'll be sitting there watching w/popcorn in one hand and my little tiny American flag waving in the other!

teheh!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 07:06 PM

Posted by Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 06:58 PM

Hi Dawnie, I believe when boys reached the age of 12 they were sent to the Hitler youth camp. I also believe that girls were sent to a similar camp. In these camps they were indoctrinated in Nazi ways and the camps weren't easy. I understand there were a lot of beatings if boys didn't take to the Nazi line.

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dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 07:08 PM

Posted by Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 06:58 PM

It just occurred to me that maybe that's why the repugs want charter schools so they can indoctrinate kids in fascism.

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dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 07:11 PM

dah hello! MSNBC do you pay attention to your OWN polls???

Should a timetable be set for pulling U.S. troops out of Iraq? * 19141 responses

Yes
72%
No
28%

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 07:11 PM

write your senators and congresspersons and demand that they reinstate the Fairness Doctrine for broadcasting.

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dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 07:12 PM

Posted by dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 07:08 PM

ok that sounds like something I have read before and very scary! The fundies would LOVE to do something like that to OUR schools!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 07:12 PM

I keep remembering how they kept telling us Iraqis would "greet Junior as a Liberator and erect his statue in a Baghdad square". Instead he had "sneak in like a thief in the night". Even "Lush" said he was "so brave" for showing his face over there.

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Domingo on June 16, 2006 at 07:15 PM

Hey {{Albuquerque}} R U holding down the fort tonight??? Good JOB Soldier!! ;-)

OH Wow! I just remembered its FRY DAY!! hmm. Somehow saying that doesn't do the same things it USED to do for me! sigh, that's a damn shame!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 07:16 PM

Posted by Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 06:58 PM

With repug charter schools they can control who goes to the school and consequently discriminate against people of color.

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dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 07:16 PM

My College roommate's mother was a hitler youth. He had some scary stories that she told him of what went on there. Even the current Pope was a H/Y. It was kind of like the Nazi Boy Scouts, where they "instill" National Values".

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DPD on June 16, 2006 at 07:17 PM

Posted by Domingo on June 16, 2006 at 07:15 PM

the list of what TRUTH they DID tell would be much shorter! I don't think I can think if a THING? OH wait he PROMISED his RICH BIOTCH BUDDIES he would kiss their royal cheeks until his last breath! He's kept one promise.

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 07:19 PM

I keep remembering how they kept telling us Iraqis would "greet Junior as a Liberator and erect his statue in a Baghdad square". Instead he had "sneak in like a thief in the night". Even "Lush" said he was "so brave" for showing his face over there.

Posted by Domingo on June 16, 2006 at 07:15 PM

I love the fact that the Iraqi leader is asking for a timetable for our departure. This is a great slap in the face to chimp. Why hasn't the damned MSM reported this big time. "stay the course". We have to finish all our bases and the Billion Dollar embassy. We can't leave. It may come to the point where they will say get the hell out. If that happens the repugs would find a way to spin it so it is murtha's fault.

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dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 07:20 PM

Posted by dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 07:16 PM

shiver!

Posted by DPD on June 16, 2006 at 07:17 PM

shiver twice @ nazi boyscouts that's SUCH an oxymoron! lol

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 07:21 PM

Woo hooooooo! This is how Dem's need to come back at the Repugs!! I was there, it was great, I think we can win!!!

Pawlenty Target Of Ridicule At DFL Convention
(AP) Rochester, Minn.
Republican Gov. Tim Pawlenty got a voice in the DFL Party's state convention, but only to set up a slam against him.

A picture of Pawlenty flashed up on two big screens flanking the podium while a memorable audio clip of him addressing last weekend's Republican convention played.

"Now I know I may not be in some of your wildest dreams but I can tell you what your worst nightmare is," Pawlenty told Republican delegates at his party's state convention. "It's one of the big spendin', tax raisin', abortion promotin', gay marriage embracin', more-welfare-without-accountability lovin', school-reform resistin', illegal-immigration supportin' Democrats for governor who thinks Hillary Clinton should be president of the United States."

DFL Party Chairman Brian Melendez treated Democratic delegates to his own riff.

"I'm a God-fearing, America-loving, property-tax-paying Minnesotan. I'm a law abiding citizen and I think the president should be too. I read my Bible, but I don't think that makes me better than anyone else, and I don't try to jam it down anyone's throat. I read my Constitution, too, by the way. I like hunting, I like fishing and I've got no problem with the Second Amendment. And when you're having those nightmares about Democrats -- I'm the ringleader, and this ain't your daddy's DFL."

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lavndrblue on June 16, 2006 at 07:21 PM

I love the fact that the Iraqi leader is asking for a timetable for our departure.

Yep, and it's "Junior's hand picked Iraqi leader" too. It's not the one the Iraqi people voted for. Junior kicked that guy out because he didn't like him and put this one in charge.

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Domingo on June 16, 2006 at 07:24 PM

ok another MESSED up week and 1,000 people seem to think very diffErently on what was the most important thing that happened!

CSPAN POLL

What was the week's most important story in Washington?
Democrats Strip Rep. Jefferson of Committee Seat
24%
House & Senate Debate Iraq War, Troop Withdrawal
11%
Pentagon Reports 2,500 Killed & 18,490 Wounded in Iraq
19%
U.S. Emergency Rooms Not Ready for Pandemic, Terror Attack
5%
FEMA Paid $1.4B in Fraudulent Relief Claims
7%
Karl Rove Cleared in CIA Leak Probe
10%
Pres. Bush Makes Surprise Visit to Baghdad
14%
Detainees Commit Suicide at Guantanamo Bay
9%
Other
2%

Total Votes: 1088

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 07:24 PM

Posted by DPD on June 16, 2006 at 07:17 PM

I thought I read where the girls were also indoctrinated. They may have been indoctrinated in women's role in the Third Reich. I know the women were encouraged to have as many little Nazis as possible.

I was shocked when I found out the Pope was a Nazi Youth. It is reported that the Cardinal of Austria or Vienna was running an "underground railroad" for Nazi war criminals after Germany surrendered.

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dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 07:25 PM

the repugs would find a way to spin it so it is murtha's fault.

Ann "the man" wants Murtha killed.

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Domingo on June 16, 2006 at 07:26 PM

Posted by lavndrblue on June 16, 2006 at 07:21 PM

HA!! I bet that was GREAT to witness LIVE!!!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 07:26 PM

shiver twice @ nazi boyscouts that's SUCH an oxymoron! lol

Posted by Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 07:21 PM

That's about the same thing as government intelligence.

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dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 07:27 PM

Posted by Domingo on June 16, 2006 at 07:26 PM

Is it true that ann coldsore had a sex change operation. Ugh. She's pretty ugly with that horse face.

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dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 07:30 PM

Posted by dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 07:27 PM

LOL sadly

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 07:31 PM

Every kid was FORCED to "join" the H/Y at around 9 years old. The last Pope (JP VI) was active in the resistance in Poland, but he had the benefit of distance.

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DPD on June 16, 2006 at 07:32 PM

Posted by dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 07:30 PM

I don't think so. I find MOST women slip into the catty, spite and jealousy mode much easier than men. Men just seem to want to get IN your face and shout mindless challenges like "BRING IT ON"

She's just dying from something. Maybe some leechs would help? lol

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 07:36 PM

Here's a heads up about a good PBS Frontline documentary airing next Tuesday.

"The Dark Side." PBS Frontline takes on CheneyCo

PBS.org

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Domingo on June 16, 2006 at 07:40 PM

Dinner time! Be back in a bit!

Great catching up! I sure get strength from this place most days! THANKS!!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 07:41 PM

You got trolls posting over at your blog, Dawnie? What are they doing? Begging you to help them get back on over here?

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Domingo on June 16, 2006 at 07:43 PM

Some intrepid "reporter" did a birth certificate check for everyone born in CT in 1964, and there was NO Ann Coulter, but there WAS an "Andrew" Coulter. I think that's what started the rumor.

Anyhoo, with her possible VOTER FRAUD in Florida it seems as if she may have been fudging on her age when she filled out LEGAL and GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS and she is actually at least 2 years older than she claims.

It just keeps getting deeper with her.

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DPD on June 16, 2006 at 07:43 PM

good news for the whales. i guess with rove getting off the hook they figured the rest of the whales ought to get a break:

By Michael Christie

FRIGATE BAY, St. Kitts and Nevis (Reuters) - Japan suffered a resounding defeat on Friday at the International Whaling Commission, calming fears among conservationists that might finally win enough support in the world body to start attacking a ban on whaling.

The commission voted against two proposals by Japan, one for secret ballots that it said would allow Caribbean and Pacific nations to back its pro-whaling stance without fear of reprisal, and another to prevent the IWC from discussing the fate of dolphins and porpoises as well as whales.

Anti-whaling countries led by Australia, Britain, New Zealand and South Africa, and environmental groups, breathed a sigh of relief that their darkest fears -- of a whaling body dominated by pro-whaling Japan -- had not come about.


"So far we have managed to dodge the harpoon," said Joth Singh, director of wildlife and habitat protection for the International Fund for Animal Welfare, at the IWC's June 16-20 meeting in the Caribbean island of St. Kitts and Nevis.

big mammals get some respect from littler mammals

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gregg on June 16, 2006 at 07:46 PM

Some intrepid "reporter" did a birth certificate check for everyone born in CT in 1964, and there was NO Ann Coulter, but there WAS an "Andrew" Coulter. I think that's what started the rumor.

Posted by DPD on June 16, 2006 at 07:43 PM

Could he/she be an illegal alien?

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dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 07:49 PM

gee ya know the evidence for evolution just builds and builds...how is the evidence for biblical claims coming along?

Nation/World
Bird fossils in China called a missing link in evolution

June 16, 2006

Email this Print this BY RANDOLPH E. SCHMID

ASSOCIATED PRESS
WASHINGTON -- Separating the layers of sediment from an ancient lake was like turning the pages of a book to get a glimpse of life in the time of dinosaurs, an international team of scientists said Thursday.

"A world lost for more than 100 million years was being revealed to us," said Hai-lu You of the Chinese Academy of Geological Sciences.

What they found is being called the missing link in the evolution of birds, a loon-like creature that lived in northwest China. It is the earliest example of the modern birds that populate the Earth today.

Before their discovery, reported in today's issue of the journal Science, the only evidence for this creature -- Gansus yumenensis -- was a single, partial leg fossil discovered in the 1980s.

Now, researchers have dozens of nearly complete fossils of Gansus, said Matt Lamanna of the Carnegie Museum of Natural History in Pittsburgh.

"Most of the ancestors of birds from the age of dinosaurs are members of groups that died out and left no modern descendants. But Gansus led to modern birds, so it's a link between primitive birds and those we see today," Lamanna said in a meeting with reporters in Washington.

Previously, there was a gap in the fossils that should have come between ancient and modern species of birds, and "Gansus fits perfectly into this gap," added Jerald D. Harris of Dixie State College in Utah.

evolution 34,845...creationism 0

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gregg on June 16, 2006 at 07:49 PM

Claire gets it.

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. - Democratic Senate candidate Claire McCaskill on Thursday proposed large fines and prison sentences for employers who hire illegal immigrants and charged that incumbent Sen. Jim Talent, R-Mo., is too cozy with companies that flout hiring laws.

Hat tip

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dorsano on June 16, 2006 at 07:55 PM

I think the best thing for the democrat party is a petal to the metal campaign with Dr. Dean at the helm telling the country just where the bear s**ts in the woods. Get the message out, loud and proud, of exactly what policy changes will take place once democrats are elected. An breakdown of just who the enemy is, and what will happen to them once dems are elected. No more of this "move to the right" crap that has happened in the party.

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Rickpat on June 16, 2006 at 07:55 PM

Under FCC rules and federal law, radio and over-the-air television stations may not air obscene material at any time, and may not air indecent material between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. when children are more likely to be in the audience.

ann coldsore's comments are obscene and indecent. Why is she not being fined?


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dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 07:55 PM

Just another Republican pervert, no big surprise, but one who Calls Bush a Liar??

BARTOW, Fla. - In Internet and phone chats with someone he thought was a 14-year-old girl, a Department of Homeland Security press aide talked about underage sex, boasted about his job and called President Bush a "liar," according to transcripts released by prosecutors.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060616/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/press_aide_arrested;_ylt=AqQeU0wSGbgEXIP18unfjGis0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--

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PamB on June 16, 2006 at 07:56 PM

Bird fossils in China called a missing link in evolution

Posted by gregg on June 16, 2006 at 07:49 PM

I thought chimp was missing link. He is certainly missing a brain.

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dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 07:58 PM

3 Examples of Lies and the truth about each one:

Crazy Republican Talking Points

GOP Lie: Saddam Hussein was the next Hitler and Iraq the next Nazi Germany

GOP Lie: Valerie Plame was "Well-known" Before Rove and Libby Outed Her.


GOP Lie: Zarqawi's Death a Major Blow Against Terrorism in Iraq

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/06/06/con06245.html

136
PamB on June 16, 2006 at 07:59 PM

What more could be done to get the message out about the partys message?

137
Rickpat on June 16, 2006 at 08:01 PM

Drunk again? Bad writing on my part. What I mean is what more could be done to spread the thoughts, policies, and intentions of the party?

138
Rickpat on June 16, 2006 at 08:06 PM

Not good news for Gore Lovers!


According the latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll published late Thursday, Americans view former vice president unfavorably by 42%-30%, though 53% of Democrats give a thumbs-up, RAW STORY has found. Excerpts from the Journal's Washington Wire.

But his cause draws adherents: 59% say climate change warrants “some action” or “immediate” steps, up from 51% in 1999.

After appearing with Falwell, 2008 hopeful McCain sees favorable ratings among conservatives tick up to 40% from 36% in April. McCain’s standing among Republicans, 47% positive and 16% negative, exceeds the 36%-13% showing for potential rival Gingrich.

Among 2004 Bush backers, 8% say their 2006 vote will signal opposition to the president.

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Gore_disapproval_remains_high_in_new_0616.html

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PamB on June 16, 2006 at 08:14 PM

OH NO! Now what are the Righties going to have to try and offset their Corruption????
And Jefferson drummed out of his committee position. boo hoo, the poor Republicans just can't get a break, can they?

Rep. McKinney Won't Be Charged in Scuffle

http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fapnews.myway.com%2F%2Farticle%2F20060616%2FD8I9I7580.html

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PamB on June 16, 2006 at 08:17 PM

I'm going to hang my hat on Al. He has the right approach since he lost his handlers. Moderation of the message will not win elections. Kerry is not going to be as direct as Gore.

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Rickpat on June 16, 2006 at 08:18 PM

Posted by gregg on June 16, 2006 at 07:49 PM

Gregg do you really think if I have an H bomb, alittle water, and dust, I can create my own planet?

the findings only prove how stupid some scientist are who think they have all the answers and years later have to so oh whoops, guess we have to change that because we just found this!

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dk2 on June 16, 2006 at 08:20 PM

bbl,

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PamB on June 16, 2006 at 08:21 PM

dk2, are you saying you are a fundementalist?

scientists that follow the scietific method hardly think they have all the answers, they think they have a process of inquiry that can lead to answers.

do you not think there is a large body of evidence supporting evolutionary theory?

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gregg on June 16, 2006 at 08:38 PM

Hello all,
I have a question I hope someone could please answer for me...

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Chris on June 16, 2006 at 08:49 PM

Hello all,
I have a question I hope someone could please answer for me... the donations this site is asking for (with the goal of 7500 donations...is that for the democracy bond drive? If so that would be pretty darn incredible that the democrats would be getting a bunch of money monthly!

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Chris on June 16, 2006 at 08:51 PM

Gregg, maybe we have seen to many "scientific statments" that were written by the manufacturer of a product they are trying to sell.

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letshelpdean on June 16, 2006 at 08:51 PM

Posted by gregg on June 16, 2006 at 08:38 PM

do you not think there is a large body of evidence supporting evolutionary theory?

Absolutely not. I do not think there is a body of evidence supporting evolutionary theory!

I have worked around too many Doctors and Professors that have the I know it all theory and they are no different than anyone else who pulls there pants up, and they have no more or less scruples about science than a politician has about making laws that suit them.


fundementalist?
No, not fundementalist either.

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dk2 on June 16, 2006 at 08:52 PM

seen too many

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letshelpdean on June 16, 2006 at 08:53 PM

MSNBC just reported that Dan Rather has been "forced out" from CBS. They are going to pay off his contract, and they want to go "in a new direction".

This is coming on top of Abrams being named GM of MSNBC in order to oversee its possible dismantling doesn't bode well for thuth in Media.

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DPD on June 16, 2006 at 08:53 PM

LOL Domingo - ya just never know.

OH I'm bak!

I just shot MSNBC a quick email thanks for such a fantastic interview with J Murtha! It was GREAT to see him in a REAL interview for a change! That is a REAL MAN now!! I mean as opposed to these chicken chits we got mostly goin down in the HOUSE! Hawk or not, he speaks from the cuff and tells the truth!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 08:56 PM

the republicans have a new political strategy for november

it's called the "cut and run" strategy.

like the "flip flop" strategy...

...the republicans have chosen...

..."a new simple minded catch phrase"...

...that the republicans will market to the uninformed swing voter

the republicans will attempt to paint the democrats as the "cut and run" party.

the republicans will attempt to convince the masses that democrats are the party that will not stay and fight a holy war...

...that the right wing evangelicals support

...that the oil industry sponsored

...that the men and women of the US Armed forces are dying for

...and that the corrupt republican administration lied about.

so beware Democrats...

...beware of the new republican "cut and run" election strategy of November 06.

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Benji on June 16, 2006 at 09:04 PM

letshelpan, my post is about a discovery made by: the Chinese Academy of Geological Sciences, reviewed and published in today's issue of the journal Science, and remarked on by: Matt Lamanna of the Carnegie Museum of Natural History in Pittsburgh and Jerald D. Harris of Dixie State College in Utah.


this is hardly bill frist telling you he knows mrs. schiavo is not brain dead because he watched a video tape of her.

this is stuff found in rocks that can be carbon dated, etc.

here are two pieces on evolution that might help:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/04/index.html

and:

http://fermat.nap.edu/html/creationism/evidence.html

for me questioning if the evidence is supportive of the theory at this point is like questioning if the power lines running from the poll outside into your home are really the source of your electricity.

i have nothing further to say as i suppose if folks who don't believe in evolution start voting democratic we might just win some elections....i guess??

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gregg on June 16, 2006 at 09:06 PM

HAROLD FORD NEEDS THIS LINK.

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pee-wee on June 16, 2006 at 09:12 PM

Posted by gregg on June 16, 2006 at 09:06 PM have nothing further to say

I don't have much to say either. I'm not a scientist - more of an engineer and a logician

the theory of evolution doesn't disprove the existence of God

and an intelligent design doesn't have to preclude evolution.

In fact, one would think that those who believe in God would think He's clever enough to hold both in his hands at the same time.

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dorsano on June 16, 2006 at 09:17 PM

lmao GREGG!!!

religious zealots and non-studied persons will of course say they see no evidence! Mostly cuz they are NOT looking because they are just fine with their own little world of "chalk everything up to GOD's plan" simple and tidy that way.

No having to prove or analyze or use hard tools or hard words you know? It's just easier to pass it off as nonsense!

SCIENCE is discovery! Rarely is anything FINAL

It's all in how you search for answers. When you stop searching you stop living (imo)

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 09:17 PM

Posted by dorsano on June 16, 2006 at 09:17 PM

HIS? roflol poppy cock! um speakin of......... the lack thereof!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 09:19 PM

Posted by pee-wee on June 16, 2006 at 09:12 PM

Harold Ford has his own agenda and that wouldnt do him any good, he is white house bound and rides the middle worse than All the rest Dems put together.

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dk2 on June 16, 2006 at 09:19 PM

Posted by Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 09:19 PM HIS? roflol poppy cock!

Good point!!

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dorsano on June 16, 2006 at 09:26 PM

dors, there is empirical evidence supporting evolution. there is no such evidence i am aware of for the exsitence of god.

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gregg on June 16, 2006 at 09:26 PM

Posted by gregg on June 16, 2006 at 09:26 PM dors, there is empirical evidence supporting evolution. there is no such evidence i am aware of for the exsitence of god.

All scientists are logicians and they would tell you that lack of evidence is not proof.

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dorsano on June 16, 2006 at 09:30 PM

speaking of evolution - MANY things evolve

HIV-1's High Virulence Might Be An Accident Of Evolution

~snip~

The virulence characteristic of HIV-1 -- the virus predominantly responsible for human AIDS -- might amount to an accident of evolution, new evidence reveals. A gene function lost during the course of viral evolution predisposed HIV-1 to spur the fatal immune system failures that are the hallmarks of AIDS, researchers report in the June 16, 2006 Cell.

AIDS has killed more than 25 million people since it was first recognized in 1981, according to The Joint United Nations Programme on HIV and AIDS. In 2005, an estimated 4.1 million were newly infected with the virus. While infection with related strains of "simian immunodeficiency virus" (SIV) is similarly rampant among many species of monkeys, naturally infected nonhuman primates usually don't suffer the symptoms associated with AIDS. The evidence now revealed by an international team of researchers is the first to offer an explanation for this striking difference.

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 09:32 PM

Why Do People Believe in Evolution?
article here

Carbon dating

"religious zealots and non-studied persons will of course say they see no evidence! Mostly cuz they are NOT looking because they are just fine with their own little world of "chalk everything up to GOD's plan" simple and tidy that way."


carbon dating part 2

Dawnie: I am neither a religious zealot and I dont consider myself totally non-studied, maybe you consider yourself to have a doctorate in the subject in order to even have an opinion, or maybe Gregg has one so that allows him to voice an opinion, but let me see if I can think of a good name or label that applies to your opinion.

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dk2 on June 16, 2006 at 09:33 PM

i did not assert that god does not exsit. i asserted that there is no empirical evidence that i am aware of that indicates such exsitence.

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gregg on June 16, 2006 at 09:34 PM

Here are just a few interesting articles for those that are so disposed to expand their minds! :-)

Summaries | Headlines

Scientists Scuttle Claims That 'Hobbit' Fossil From Flores, Indonesia, Is A New Hominid (May 19, 2006) -- In 2003, scientists found 18,000-year-old bones of a small, humanlike creature in Flores, Indonesia. They concluded the bones represent a new species of hominid, which was widely accepted. A far more ... > full story

Human And Chimp Genomes Reveal New Twist On Origin Of Species (May 18, 2006) -- A new study appearing in the May 17 online edition of Nature suggests that the last common ancestor shared between chimps and humans may be ~1 million years more recent than previous estimates. ... > full story

Hominid Fossils From Ethiopia Link Ape-men To More Distant Human Ancestors (April 13, 2006) -- Before the genus Homo arose some 2 million years ago, eastern Africa was dominated by the Australopithecines - small brained, large-toothed bipeds that later earned the sobriquet "ape-men." But where ... > full story

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 09:36 PM

dk

we're all voicing our opinions here! Or are you the only one allowed to proclaim NO I CERTAINLY DO NOT BELIEVE???

You should at least expect to be challenged.

and vice versa

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 09:38 PM

Posted by dorsano on June 16, 2006 at 09:30 PM

All scientists are logicians and they would tell you that lack of evidence is not proof.

No matter they are human before they are logicians and if you dont think they are subject to the same emotions on the subjects of their so call expertise and the need to be published than others you are wrong. Unless of course we are to believe that they have no self serving purpose to find evidences to prove their ideas. That is why we have been fed the silver spoon of finger printing as fool proof, oh and what about DNA testing cant be wrong.

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dk2 on June 16, 2006 at 09:39 PM

Posted by gregg on June 16, 2006 at 09:34 PM i did not assert that god does not exsit.

I didn't assert that either - so I guess we agree on that point :)

And now I'm going to lay me down to sleep and pray to God my soul to keep.

goodnight all

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dorsano on June 16, 2006 at 09:39 PM

gnite Dorssss ! Peaceful sleep!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 09:44 PM

Posted by Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 09:32 PM

mutating and change do not constitute evolving

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dk2 on June 16, 2006 at 09:45 PM

Posted by dk2 on June 16, 2006 at 09:39 PM Unless of course we are to believe that they have no self serving purpose to find evidences to prove their ideas.

I suspect that number of "self-serving" scientists is in the outer percentiles of a Gaussian distribution probably is close to the number of "self-serving" doctors and "self-serving" preachers.

But I doubt very much that any "self-serving" scientist would spend his or her time with the theory of evolution - there's no money in it.

pharma - that's another matter.

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dorsano on June 16, 2006 at 09:46 PM

Posted by Sally*Sally* on June 16, 2006 at 09:37 PM

lol

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dorsano on June 16, 2006 at 09:47 PM

Posted by Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 09:44 PM gnite Dorssss ! Peaceful sleep!

Thanks, Dawn - I'm off

I have to get up early tomorrow and beat my son-in-law in racquet ball. Those young punks think they are hot stuff - well, we'll see about that!

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dorsano on June 16, 2006 at 09:49 PM

Posted by dorsano on June 16, 2006 at 09:46 PM

also a good point!

Generalizing is never accurate. I often catch myself doing it too!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 09:51 PM

Posted by Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 09:38 PM
I dont mind being challenged!
There is a difference in giving an opinion and labeling or name calling:

"religious zealots and non-studied persons will of course say they see no evidence! Mostly cuz they are NOT looking because they are just fine with their own little world of "chalk everything up to GOD's plan" simple and tidy that way."

Have a labeled you yet?


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dk2 on June 16, 2006 at 09:52 PM

Posted by dk2 on June 16, 2006 at 09:45 PM

it was there title not mine

you will be sadly disappointed making all these blanket positive statements! Maybe your bosses need a dose of humility to go along with those huge paychecks or something!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 09:54 PM

well pragmatically speaking i guess it is good news if the creationists are joining the democratic ranks so i will take my leave and wish you all a good nite.

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gregg on June 16, 2006 at 09:54 PM

their not there

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 09:55 PM

Posted by gregg on June 16, 2006 at 09:54 PM

gnite {{gregg}} I know you used to be a science teacher or something right? when someone hits you below the belt that close to home I can understand being upset!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 09:56 PM

Gregg I have been a democrat since about 1971, so for me it isnt just joining time.

Dors have a good night.

Dawnie: if this statement is for me, you lost me somewhere in there
"you will be sadly disappointed making all these blanket positive statements! Maybe your bosses need a dose of humility to go along with those huge paychecks or something!"

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dk2 on June 16, 2006 at 09:57 PM

dk

I didn't call you a name unless being NON studied is not the case and you HAVE STUDIED EVOLUTION???

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 09:59 PM

Night Gregg, have a good one.

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dk2 on June 16, 2006 at 10:00 PM

dk your words

mutating and change do not constitute evolving

that is a blanket denial of sorts and it's not always true!

that's what I'm talking about

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 10:01 PM

Sling it which ever way makes you happy Dawnie, but I dont remember sluring any of your post regardless.

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dk2 on June 16, 2006 at 10:01 PM

Well Dawnie what do the words MIGHT BE equate to?

HIV-1's High Virulence Might Be An Accident Of Evolution

"that is a blanket denial of sorts and it's not always true"

kinda applies to your post also :
Posted by Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 09:32 PM

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dk2 on June 16, 2006 at 10:06 PM

Posted by dk2 on June 16, 2006 at 10:06 PM

now you lost me

You said you were not a zealot but unless you now say you have studied evolution than you fit into the 2nd catagory I mentioned! And there are many sciences.

I did'nt call you any name other than "non-studied" and if I'm wrong than I apologize for that. You on the other hand insulted gregg (imo)

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 10:09 PM

How in the blazes did I insult Greg???? and if I did he is a big boy and can tell me that himself.

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dk2 on June 16, 2006 at 10:12 PM

Posted by dk2 on June 16, 2006 at 10:12 PM

I see it's useless debating you. You've clearly made up your mind "ABSOLUTELY" so why bother.

I'm not here for science anyway. Just felt the need to back up a fellow blogger. Not that I needed to but wanted to........ there is a difference!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 10:15 PM

Dawnie, you can sling whatever in the name of whatever/whomever blogger you want to, so have fun maybe next time I'll sink to a new low call (Dawnies level)and slur you with a few lables too.

Go fish in another pond, all the big fish left this one.

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dk2 on June 16, 2006 at 10:19 PM

Have a good night to whom ever is left, catch you tomorrow.

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dk2 on June 16, 2006 at 10:21 PM

Posted by dk2 on June 16, 2006 at 10:19 PM

lol fish in another pond? you make no sense.

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 10:25 PM

dk, you did not insult me. no one insulted me. the fact that the troll is here insults us all but i am fine with your beliefs. i would just like to watch the tube and in mid-tube i decided i needed a pb and j and checked back in. have a good nite all.

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gregg on June 16, 2006 at 10:28 PM

Posted by gregg on June 16, 2006 at 10:28 PM

I thought calling some scientists "stupid" and no different than any other person (which is wrong by itself) was an insult!

Of course I don't really consider most professors or doctors "scientists" in the sense which I was referring! And I know MANY doctors and MOST are quite stuck on themselves and their ideas!

I also know some scientists and NONE of them are stuck on themselves or their area of study. Most are humble, quiet and very very curious! I like that! What can I say?

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 10:37 PM

evenin folks, catchin up to do.

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jen on June 16, 2006 at 10:46 PM

Hey Jen-fur

I'm listening to Mike Malloy!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 10:48 PM

hey Dawnie!

am I to understand that someone's personal experience with scientists being human is proof that evolution is b.s.?

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jen on June 16, 2006 at 10:53 PM

NO idea JEN! But they thought I was fishing or something. LOL

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 10:56 PM

i'm watching something about the death of Glen Miller on pbs. i love the swing, baby! earlier on Nature they had a special on Katrina animal rescue that tore me up.

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jen on June 16, 2006 at 10:56 PM

J'ville church outs gay marriage haters thanks Paul

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jen on June 16, 2006 at 10:58 PM

Posted by jen on June 16, 2006 at 10:58 PM

that was pretty funny!! I just read that too!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 11:00 PM

those that would lump all science as unreliable due to it being performed by human beings and yet believe that what is written in the Bible (by humans) is true are not worth arguing with.

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jen on June 16, 2006 at 11:03 PM

is mike done reading 1984 yet

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jen on June 16, 2006 at 11:04 PM

Posted by jen on June 16, 2006 at 11:03 PM

good point plus WHICH bible is the correct one? There are a few.

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 11:05 PM

He's just back from a break - talking about Katrina now

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 11:07 PM

Posted by jen on June 16, 2006 at 10:58 PM J'ville church outs gay marriage haters

We're all made in God's image - these people won't be judged by God's gay aspect it seems to me.

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dorsano on June 16, 2006 at 11:07 PM

Good night Jenny, Dawn, GregG - and our dear friend {{{{Sally}}}}

I gotta get to bed - have a great weekend - the ascent of "conservatism" reached it's apex with the worst president our country has ever produced

(OK, Sally - I'll acknowledge that there's some disagreement on which president is actually worse - Bush or Carter - BUT - in any case - "conservatism" whatever that is - is exemplified by this president - and it has had its day in the sun).

Let's all thank God that those days are soon to end :)

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dorsano on June 16, 2006 at 11:14 PM

you lost me dors

i think that if they are proud to say they hate gay marriage why would they have a problem with everyone knowing it? i mean, if they believe God does not condone gay marriage, shouldn't they be proud to stand up for what they believe is His will?

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jen on June 16, 2006 at 11:14 PM

Posted by dorsano on June 16, 2006 at 11:14 PM

no thanks but you go right ahead and do that!

Peaceful sleep too!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 11:17 PM

goodnight dors, you sally-hugger you

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jen on June 16, 2006 at 11:17 PM

Posted by jen on June 16, 2006 at 11:14 PM you lost me dors

I was referring to the people that called attention to the signatures of the petition - the signatures which are inscribed in both the public record and any other record that may exist.

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dorsano on June 16, 2006 at 11:20 PM

LOL @ sally hugger

I'd be burning my clothes after! All those germs! LOL

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 11:21 PM

what are you saying about the people that called attention to the signatures, dors?

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jen on June 16, 2006 at 11:22 PM

i just found a cousin of mine on that hate list. sigh.

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jen on June 16, 2006 at 11:26 PM

Posted by jen on June 16, 2006 at 11:26 PM

I did a search on it too and found no one, yet!

I think Dors is already walkin in his sleep so he's probably not sure what he meant. LOL kidding!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 11:29 PM

Posted by jen on June 16, 2006 at 11:22 PM what are you saying about the people that called attention to the signatures, dors?

I'm saying that we're all made in God's image - gays, lesbians, Mexicans, people on welfare, people who've had an abortion, Republicans

Which aspect of God will judge us? The Mexican aspect? The gay and Lesbian aspect? or the Republican aspect?

The people that called attention to the signatures on this petition have nothing to fear from God's gay aspect.

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dorsano on June 16, 2006 at 11:31 PM

it's probably me. i'm batting 1000 tonight, dawn

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jen on June 16, 2006 at 11:32 PM

oh ok dors, thanks

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jen on June 16, 2006 at 11:33 PM

Dors

You mean they are are are HYPCRITES???

(big gasp) NO!! Not them!! (yes that is meant to be snide)

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 11:36 PM

hypocrites

now I'm getting tired

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 11:37 PM

Mexico's Populist Tilts at a Privileged Elite

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jen on June 16, 2006 at 11:38 PM

LOL Im glad I re-read that JEN

lol i thought it said populist TITS

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 11:41 PM

Check out this article on using the American flag as a political tool. Click on my name.

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dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 11:43 PM

boy talk about some eerie similarities!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 11:43 PM

gotta loves those populist tits! much better than the elitits

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jen on June 16, 2006 at 11:46 PM

Check out this newspaper. They printed the names of all 2,500 brave soldiers that died in chimp's illegal war.

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dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 11:47 PM

lol i thought it said populist TITS

Posted by Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 11:41 PM

What did I miss?

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dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 11:48 PM

Hey Albuquerque! I liked this paragraph a LOT! But where is Tracy, CA?

The American flag is too sacred to be used as wool to be pulled over the public’s eyes. No one should be allowed to hijack the flag and use it as political bulletproof vest. Patriotism isn’t defending the material flag with a Constitutional amendment or a political slogan — true patriotism is defending the ideals of the nation.

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 11:48 PM

Posted by dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 11:48 PM

LOL nothing! my crossed eyes! Jen's 11:38

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 11:49 PM

Posted by dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 11:47 PM

Holy C O W! :-(

I'm saving that link!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 11:51 PM

Posted by Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 11:48 PM

Tracy is in the Central Valley of California about 75 miles east of San Francisco. Lots of Silicon Valley types live there now. I worked for the city for about 11 years before I retired.

My other post is from the Times Standard of Eureka, California up in the Redwoods of N. California. I lived there too in a previous life.

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dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 11:53 PM

Enough is enough of this endless war Iraq. Billions and billions of dollars continue to be spent. Please visit the website below to send a message to congress. Tell them support our troops, bring them home now! Tell them to listen to John Murtha.

http://www.usalone.com/stacey/pnum320.php

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DemocratKickingAss on June 16, 2006 at 11:55 PM

Posted by dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 11:53 PM

Cool! computer science (another one of my favs)

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 11:57 PM

At least 11 people have been killed and 25 injured in a suspected suicide shoe-bomb attack at a key Shia mosque in the Iraqi capital Baghdad. Full story:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5086326.stm

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DemocratKickingAss on June 16, 2006 at 11:57 PM

if it weren't so terrirfying it would be funny how the assholes running this country were too hard line and tough to deal with north korea and iran and so on when they stole the election in 2000 and now these countries run by their own lunatics have the presidunce by the balls and are squeezing hard....i guess bolton and bolton will get it all straightened out....NOT!

Report: North Korea preparing for missile test
Long-range weapon has potential to strike mainland America, official says

Updated: 1 minute ago
SEOUL, South Korea - North Korea loaded booster rockets onto a launch pad and moved about 10 fuel tanks to a launch site in preparation to test-fire a long-range missile that could reach as far as the U.S. mainland, a newspaper reported Saturday.

South Korea and the United States made the assessment after analyzing satellite images, the Chosun Ilbo reported, citing an unnamed high-level South Korean government official.

On Friday, a U.S. government official said Pyongyang was accelerating preparations for testing the missile.

fools at the wheel

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gregg on June 16, 2006 at 11:57 PM

Trivializing Corruption
By David Sirota

thanks dumpw for posting that paper.

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jen on June 16, 2006 at 11:58 PM

see you folks in the morning.

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gregg on June 16, 2006 at 11:58 PM

Posted by DemocratKickingAss on June 16, 2006 at 11:55 PM

LOVE MURTHA!! will DO!

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Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 11:58 PM

Posted by Dawnie on June 16, 2006 at 11:51 PM

I was in Los Lunas, New Mexico last week and I saw all these little wooden crosses on the lawn in front of City Hall. I asked what they were and it turns out that there is a cross for every soldier that died in chimp's illegal war. It was really moving. I will be there on Sunday. I will try to get a picture if it is still there.

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dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 11:59 PM

g,nite gregg

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dumpw on June 17, 2006 at 12:05 AM

ode to billy joe is coming on! lol

Not your Soldier watch

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jen on June 17, 2006 at 12:05 AM

gnight gregg

price of human life in baghdad is 2.40$

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jen on June 17, 2006 at 12:07 AM

Posted by gregg on June 16, 2006 at 11:58 PM

ok I know I've said gnite to you at least 2 times! GO to bed!!! LOL {(hugs)}

OH a cross for each one from that town that has died? wow! :-( Yea a pic would be cool.

Jen how do you keep up with donkey o.d. and here and regular work? I mean you are STILL posting news! 11:41 that's pretty up dated GF! Must be your youth! I am envious (in a good way) wishing I still had the energy!

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Dawnie on June 17, 2006 at 12:09 AM

i don't have energy, it's more like an obsession, dawn. lol the laptop helps. ;)

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jen on June 17, 2006 at 12:15 AM

it must be sweeps week

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jen on June 17, 2006 at 12:18 AM

oh yea !! the lap top makes it very convenient I bet!

I guess it's true there are good obsessions eh?

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Dawnie on June 17, 2006 at 12:19 AM

I think Domingo posted that earlier

ACK coulter hag!!

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Dawnie on June 17, 2006 at 12:20 AM

well my bum is burnin from sittin here so long

I think I'll hit the hay too!

Nice seein you all!

Peace and {{HUGS}}

Have a great weekend!

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Dawnie on June 17, 2006 at 12:23 AM

some in my family might differ on whether it is good.

oh, sorry, i missed that by domingo.

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jen on June 17, 2006 at 12:24 AM

goodnight dawnie, jen and all. tomorrow is a day off so i can work at home.

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dumpw on June 17, 2006 at 12:29 AM

gnight dumpw and dawnie c u tomorrow

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jen on June 17, 2006 at 12:30 AM

There are some great moments in An Inconvenient Truth, Al Gore’s slide show about global warming. There are even some moments where you won’t feel like killing yourself. (Those would be the moments when we’re not hearing about new tropical diseases flourishing because mosquitoes are invading human populations that settled at high elevations that were previously too cold for the little bloodsuckers, the flooding of Florida and Singapore and a whole lot of India, the carbon they can measure for hundreds of thousands of years in the past not being “cyclical,” as the scientists in Dana Rohrabacher’s office are so fond of saying.

Doing an analysis of peer-reviewed scientific papers on climate change that have been published in the past decade, Gore finds that of 924, fully zero percent question the fact of global warming. But when you look at newspaper articles on climate change? The percent that casts doubt on global warming is a mighty 53. Oh, the mainstream media is hilarious.

“Our conclusion was that the man-made effect was a very important factor in the fact that the temperature is going up,” Rowland told my colleague Jim Washburn a few years back, vis-à-vis a report he’d authored for the Bush White House. “They seemed to appreciate that, and I thought their position was, ‘We accept that global warming will occur, and we are going to prepare a response to it.’ But their talk about ‘uncertainties’ spread to being ‘maybe there isn’t any global warming’ or that maybe it was all a natural effect.”

So who’s The Orange County Register’s rebuttal to every scientist in the entire world who isn’t actually employed by the oil industry? Not to mention Rowland, one of the world’s premier chemists, who says, “Climate change in the next 50 to 100 years is probably going to have a mixture of things that are inconvenient all the way up to catastrophic”?

How about syndicated conservative columnist Mark Steyn? The hip wingers love him because he’s “funny,” with the pop culture references to Scarlett Johansson and such, and he says scientists used to call global warming “global cooling” because they thought we were on the cusp of another Ice Age. But Mark Steyn’s a scientist as much as I am, or as much as Matt Drudge is when he sneered that Gore was giving his presentation on global warming at a time when the East Coast was having a terrible blizzard. And since Steyn clearly hasn’t seen the movie: global warming can lead to an Ice Age, in Europe, by diverting the Jet Stream.

OC Weekly

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Domingo on June 17, 2006 at 12:32 AM

Posted by Domingo on June 17, 2006 at 12:32 AM

Hi, Will.

Everything the Republicans have botched up is an inconvenient truth.

According to them, everything is coming up roses. We are going to experience the second coming of Christ soon, because the Republicans have saved the world for democracy and stopped the liberals from telling inconvenient truths.

They just shout us down, send out their attack dogs (no pun intended concerning the usual ring- wing pundits), and keep us in "Free Speech Zones"....far from the madding crowd and the MSM.

I'm to the point I really hope they're right about the second coming of Christ. Because we are going to need a few miracles to get us out of the environmental mess that's shaping up off the horizon.

Rest well, Democrats. The lord is looking down from on high and still sees much that he thinks is good.

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SandyH on June 17, 2006 at 02:08 AM

Good grief, I am hoping this long sally thread is not what we have left for the weekend

In any case

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, REV! Cake is served at Night Bird's Fountain so all DEMS can stop in and leave your birthday wishes.

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Cyn_NY on June 17, 2006 at 07:28 AM

Hi Cyn-NY

Looks like axis sally is back. click on my name to see what Widipedia has to say about her.

Hope it is a good morning in NY. Looks like our heat moved east. Today in NM it is going to be in the eighties. The 90's will be back on Sunday.

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dumpw on June 17, 2006 at 07:37 AM

Good morning fellow Democrats. It seems as if our troll nightwatch fell asleep.

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BobVADem-Gore-Warner2008 on June 17, 2006 at 07:59 AM

Posted by Sally*Sally* on June 17, 2006 at 03:04 AM

If we're winning, then why is every measurable metric on how the nation of Iraq is doing as a scoiety in worse shape than prior to the invasion? Y'all couldn't have been looking for WMD's for this long. Republicans are that stupid are they? Well, then again....

Posted by Sally*Sally* on June 17, 2006 at 03:22 AM

104 dead terrorists and/or insurgents is indeed good news. 104 down, 20,000, or so, to go. At that pace we could be out by spring of 2007 if our troops weren't hamstrung by the most incompetent civilian administration in the history of the union. Well, maybe Franklin Pierce was more incompetent.

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BobVADem-Gore-Warner2008 on June 17, 2006 at 08:11 AM

That f**king bush is playing the "scare America" card again. All that has been on the MSM this morning is a report released this week by bush's cronies that most American cities aren't secure enough.

People (a**hole repugs) are just dumb enough to believe this crap and not see through this transparent sham to get votes in November.

They announced last night that North Korea is testing a rockef that could reach the US and the MSM is blasting it all over as if they are kissing the repugs asses.

When are these moron repug voters going to wake up and see that we are being played like a cheap guitar. If they aren't made to wake up soon then we are totally screwed as a nation.

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dumpw on June 17, 2006 at 08:17 AM

Posted by Sally*Sally* on June 17, 2006 at 03:29 AM

I seriously doubt that the results of a soccer match is going to do much to resolve the major diplomatic issues we have with Iran. By the way, did you hear that North Korea has a missile that can reach the West Coast of the U.S.? HEY YOU BLINKING REPUBLICAN MORONS IN CONGRESS THERE IS YOUR NATIONAL THREAT!

Posted by Sally*Sally* on June 17, 2006 at 03:42 AM

And if my grandmother had wheels she would've been a wagon. See you in Novemeber.

Posted by Sally*Sally* on June 17, 2006 at 03:55 AM

I've got $50 on Rep. Murtha to win by double digits. Again, see you in November.

I hate a troll to go unchalleneged. I know that some of you think it is best to ignore a troll. I respectfully disagree. Our superior logic and firm grasp of reality always win. Intelligent people vote Democrat, "sheeple" vote Republican.

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BobVADem-Gore-Warner2008 on June 17, 2006 at 08:21 AM

Well folks it looks like we are screwed as a nation. The repug have stuffed the ballot box so to speak. They control the Congress, the Executive Branch and the Supreme Court. There was a day when the Supreme Court would step in and kick ass but now that they have been bought out by big business and the repugs the supreme court will do anything they ask and say yes sir or HEIL BUSH.

When are we going to take our nation back if it isn't this November. All these bums in all branches of government have to be physically thrown out of office after the November elections if it isn't too late already.

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dumpw on June 17, 2006 at 08:22 AM

Posted by dumpw on June 17, 2006 at 08:17 AM

I think they just may wake up and realize we're less safe today than in 2000 or 1994. And who has been in control of congress for all of that time? You guessed it.

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BobVADem-Gore-Warner2008 on June 17, 2006 at 08:24 AM

Posted by BobVADem-Gore-Warner2008 on June 17, 2006 at 08:24 AM

I call the troll axis sally. click on my name for the wikipedia page. She was an American that went to Germany and spewed crap on the radio just before D-Day. She used to taunt the troops with statements like "You can't win, look what happened in Dunkirk and Dieppe".

She spewed the same crap the repugs are spewing now. She was tried for treason after the war.

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dumpw on June 17, 2006 at 08:31 AM

bob, your ice cream ration is still the usual 32 oz's but you are responsible for hitting rove in the face with a cow shit pie in the next two weeks.

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gregg on June 17, 2006 at 08:38 AM

sadly the repubs and their court jesters are running all over the media claiming they have won in iraq and we should never have a plan for withdrawl...boy i bet babs wishes poppie had had one...and in the meantime the bloodshed continues, our soldiers are trying to keep a lid on things while the temperature hits 120 during the day and our good friends the north koreans are talking about how they could drop in on laguna beach for a latte if they wanted to:

Baghdad security crackdown has little effect
More than 30 killed in fresh strikes; U.S. searches for 2 missing soldie

Updated: 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Bomb and mortar attacks killed at least 31 people in and near Baghdad on Saturday in violence that showed no sign of easing despite a security crackdown in the capital.

U.S. forces were searching for two American soldiers who went missing after an attack on Friday in which one U.S. soldier was killed in the Sunni insurgent stronghold of Youssifiyah, south of Baghdad.

“After hearing small arms fire and explosions in the vicinity of the checkpoint, a quick reaction force responded to the scene. Coalition forces have initiated a search operation to locate and determine the status of the soldiers,” it said.
More than 2,500 U.S. soldiers have died in Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003.

Saturday’s violence followed a vow by al-Qaida in Iraq’s new leader to avenge the death of his predecessor Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who was killed in a U.S. airstrike last week.

In the deadliest attack, a car bomb targeting Iraqi army and police killed 11 people.

Reuters Television footage showed the blackened remains of at least six burned-out cars. A charred body was taken on a stretcher to an ambulance. A man with blood on his face stood nearby looking stunned and smoking a cigarette.

New Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, who is under pressure to rein in violence that has killed tens of thousands of Iraqis, on Wednesday launched a much-trumpeted security sweep with 50,000 Iraqi forces backed by 7,000 U.S. troops to pile pressure on al-Qaida in Iraq.

But the operation, mounted one day after President Bush made a surprise visit to Baghdad to bolster al-Maliki’s month-old government, has failed to stop attacks.

In more violence, a bomb killed six people and wounded 11 in a crowded market in central Baghdad and mortar rounds killed two people and wounded 14 in another market in the Shiite district of Kadhimiya.

wait until the war is over and we're both a little older


maybe fancy pants karl, dickhead cheney and the presidunce ought to take a real visit to iraq and go wander the markets and streets of baghdad and get the "feel" of their handiwork.

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gregg on June 17, 2006 at 08:48 AM

Posted by dumpw on June 17, 2006 at 08:31 AM

"Sally" is probably just some repressed Republican cross-dresser too ashamed to be recognized as such.

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BobVADem-Gore-Warner2008 on June 17, 2006 at 08:48 AM

Posted by gregg on June 17, 2006 at 08:38 AM

So noted. The cow pie will probably smell better than Rove anyway.

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BobVADem-Gore-Warner2008 on June 17, 2006 at 08:50 AM

the administrators of this blog need to learn how to permanently get rid of trash like sally or this could become the foaming at the mouth, republican nut blog by default.

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gregg on June 17, 2006 at 08:52 AM

Posted by gregg on June 17, 2006 at 08:48 AM

I challenge any senior administration official to have a press conference from somewhere other than the Green Zone. Do you think we'll see Secretary Rice in Fallujah? Do you think we'll see Secretary Rumsfeld in Baquba? How about VPOTUS Cheney in Najaf? I'm waiting...

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BobVADem-Gore-Warner2008 on June 17, 2006 at 08:56 AM

more stupidity from the washington post:

Fall Elections Are Rove's Next Test
Reputation as Architect of Victory at Stake

By Jim VandeHei and Dan Balz
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, June 17, 2006

BULLSHIT, the elections are not a test of this little bush family ass sucking toad, the mid term elections are a test of the american people and the degree to which we will let ourselves be led down the road of horror, mendacity and third rate status on the world stage...oh yeah and a test of whether the media can honestly cover issues that impact on people or have their heads up rove's ass looking for a pat on the head...

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gregg on June 17, 2006 at 09:11 AM

By Louise Egan and Marcy Nicholson
OTTAWA/WINNIPEG (Reuters) - Canada has detected a case of H5 avian flu in the eastern province of Prince Edward Island and plans further testing over the weekend to determine whether it is the highly pathogenic H5N1 strain, government officials announced on Friday.
A gosling in a small backyard poultry flock in the western end of the tiny province contracted the disease but there is a low risk of human illness from the outbreak, officials said.
The last Canadian outbreak occurred in November 2005 on the other side of the country, in British Columbia, and involved low-pathogenic H5N2 strain. In that case no birds actually showed signs of illness but 60,000 ducks and geese were culled nonetheless.
The Canadian Food Inspection Agency said there is no evidence that the latest bird flu case is the high-pathogen H5N1 strain that has spread to 48 countries so far since its resurgence in 2003.
If it is, it would be the first case in the Americas. The H5N1 strain has killed 129 people in nine countries since 2003, mostly in Asia.
"Just because the virus was there does not mean that's what killed the geese," said CFIA veterinarian Jim Clark.
"Ducks and geese are natural reservoirs for avian influenza viruses. The viruses exist quite nicely in their intestinal tract and cause absolutely no illness or death in the birds. That would be the situation in this case," he said.
A sample from the non-commercial flock of about 35 ducks, geese and chickens was brought to the Atlantic Veterinary College for testing after four goslings became sick on June 4, Clark said. The geese were not imported and there were no known links to Asia.

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2006-06-16T225514Z_01_N16233075_RTRUKOC_0_US-BIRDFLU-CANADA.xml&src=rss&rpc=22

Are we ready? Of course not! It's that "science-vodoo talk" and the administration is not buying it like global warming or high gas prices.

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BobVADem-Gore-Warner2008 on June 17, 2006 at 09:28 AM

Posted by dumpw on June 16, 2006 at 11:59 PM

I will be in Taos, NM next weekend. Where in NM do you reside?

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lavndrblue on June 17, 2006 at 09:46 AM

June 15, 2006 Cardiff, Wales, U. K. - There was a most provocative title in the April 4, 2006, journal Astrophysics and Space Science. It reads: “The Red Rain Phenomenon of Kerala and Its Possible Extraterrestrial Origin.”
Kerala is called "God's own country" and is situated on the Malabar Coast in southwestern India. Besides attracting tourists to its beautiful beaches and lush trees where exotic wildlife live, the land supports companies which grow tea, coffee, rubber, cashew, pepper, cardamom, vanilla, nutmeg and cinnamon.
Five years ago in July to September 2001, several red-colored rains fell over Kerala. Before the first of several rains over two months, people said they heard a loud boom. Then red rain fell and stained white T-shirts. Residents wondered what was happening? News of the red rain mystery reached Dr. Godfrey Louis, a Professor of Pure and Applied Physics at Mahatma Gandhi University in the city of Kottayam in the state of Kerala. He collected many test tubes full of the red-colored rain water and put some of the odd liquid under a microscope.
He told me by phone in early June that when he first saw the red rain magnified, he was struck by the beautiful rust color of what seemed to be living cells. The cell diameters averaged 10 microns, a little bigger than a human blood cell which is about 7 microns.

http://www.earthfiles.com/news/news.cfm?ID=1103&category=Science

Speaking of science, see if this article gives you the "willies".

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BobVADem-Gore-Warner2008 on June 17, 2006 at 09:54 AM

Have a good day, fellow Democrats. Keep the Faith and keep the faith, the liberal revolution is nigh...

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BobVADem-Gore-Warner2008 on June 17, 2006 at 09:56 AM

Your ebay purchase of Enron memorabilia is technologically more secure than your vote in a Diebold box.

No one has any reason of course to be interested in your purchase at ebay.

But millions of voters can reverse supply-side tax cuts for the rich.

They can cut oil and gas subsidies.
They can require energy efficiency.
They can regulate energy markets.
They can end energy-fueled inflation and chronic interest-rate hikes;
They can prevent the recession that follows from fossil-fuel proft-taking;
They can cultivate clean sources of energy harvested at home.
They can stop our dependence on the whims of Saudi princes--and the GOP war-oil-and-gas supply-side plutocratic ascendancy that halved oil output in Iraq;
They can stop the cycle of “collateral damage” and perpetual no-bid contracts to reconstruct the "collateral" it blows up;
They can say “never again will we send our best to die in a plutocrat’s war!”;
They can pull out of Iraq;
They can end authorized torture;
They can close secret prison-camps;
They can release those held without evidence;
They can give due process of law;
They can stop illegal spying on Americans;
They can declassify what ought to be public;
They can support international law;
They can promote and join wise and good treaties;
They can lead the world instead of barring the way to justice;
They can teach human rights instead of conspiring to violate them;
They can think of themselves as citizens of the world;
They can honor and respect our Constitution;
They can honor the right to an equal public education;

They can create a national Health Insurance Plan; a plan comprehensive in coverage, with free choice as to provider;
beneficial to businesses, saving them billions; replacing redundant bureaucracies of Medicare, Medicaid and the VA;
insuring 46 million uninsured workers and children—each of them citizens;
creating new jobs to provide care to those newly insured;
saving more jobs as businesses get relief from soaring health benefits costs that drive them to outsource;
paid for by negotiating fair drug prices with pharmaceuticals companies;
by eliminating private insurers (whose every dollar in expense or profit is taken from health care Americans need);
by raising taxes on the rich--if necessary;

They can write a simple, fair and progressive tax code;
An honest code free from dodges, loopholes and lies;
a tax code that isn't a giant swiss cheese infested with giant rats;
a tax code that doesn't act as a barrier to entering the middle class, or to staying in it;
a tax code that doesn't contribute to poverty by subsiziding the rich;
a progressive code in which the poor don't pay;
the middle class pays less taxes;
and the rich pay their fair share;

Yes, voters can expose "neo-con" as not at all new but very much a con--
No less than the Emperor in New Clothes;
They can uninstall Supply-side 3.1 and switch to a better OS;
They can fire incumbents and send them job-hunting in a world of publicly-funded, secure and verifiable elections;
They can lock lobbyists out of the Cannon House Office Building, the Hart Senate Office Building, and the Oval Office.

Who would have any motive to prevent that?

Who owns Diebold?

Some call Diebold black boxes gamed as needed—-
Some see them as coffins for democracy;
They work like the slots in casinos;
They’re fed by the foolish and fixed by the House.

Diebold, you said? DyeBold--or DyeRed?

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DocTwain on June 17, 2006 at 10:36 AM

Good morning, all.

Bush: Iraq must know it won't be abandoned

By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer

CRAWFORD, Texas - President Bush, reminding listeners of his surprise trip to Baghdad, said Saturday it was important for the Iraqi people to know after three years of war that "America will not abandon them after we have come this far..."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060617/ap_on_go_pr_
wh/bush

If the Iraqis must know the United States won't abandon them, why are their newly-elected officials asked Bush for a timetable for when our troops will leave?

And wasn't Bush saying just a month ago that we were not going to give the Iraqis any more mnoey for rebuilding? Must have been another President?

As for abandonment....why did the Republican Congress and this President cut funds for education ...of our children?

Why did they cut funds for medical research and medical care...for our citizens?

Why did they cut funds for FEMA and Homeland Security...for our citizens?

Why did they sell off control of our ports, railroads, forests, and military equipment spare parts to companies owned by communist nations and Arab nations that had harbored the 9/11 highjackers?

Why did they reward mulitnationals for taking over our American industries and then moving our factories, resarch capabilities, and jobs to other countries? Are still doing it:?

Why haven't they enforced the immigration laws that are already on the books? But instead propose giving amnesty to the employers that have been hiring and will continue to hire millions more?

Why are they trying to sell off our airlines to foreign nationals when it is the primary means that we transport our troops...when they insist we will be in Iraq till Doomesday?

Why is the officially stated top priority for the next two years by the Congressional Chairman of the Committee of Social Security:

Dismantaling Social Security....when the American people made it clear only one year ago that they liked it the way it is and didnn't want it changed?


Abandonment is in the eyes of the beholder.

The newly-elected Iraqis leadership want a timetable for when our troops leave that country and so do the American people.

Both the Iraqis and the American people are tired of being treated like political footballs by incompetnet, corrupt Republican politicans.

We want the troops to come home. No more excuses like with Katrina, the ports deals, and amnesty for illegal hiring.

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SandyH on June 17, 2006 at 10:50 AM

bush and the republicans care more about iraq than...

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND IT'S CITIZENS

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Benji on June 17, 2006 at 11:11 AM

THE REPUBLICANS CARE MORE ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN HOLY WAR IN IRAQ...

THAN THE AMERICA'S BEST INTERESTS

THE REPUBLICANS CARE MORE ABOUT THE OIL INDUSTRY...

THAN THE AMERICAN VOTER

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Benji on June 17, 2006 at 11:12 AM

THE REPUBLICANS CARE MORE ABOUT ELECTIONS...

THAN DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED LEADERS OF HONEST AND GENUINE INTEGRITY

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Benji on June 17, 2006 at 11:13 AM

hi benji and sandyh, after the week of cheerleaders ( bush/cheney ) and pom poms ( rush/rove ) its time to get back to the hard work of building a safe and sane world for future generations. time for the grown ups to take center stage again.

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gregg on June 17, 2006 at 11:16 AM

Ranchers add ladders to border fences

By LYNN BREZOSKY, Associated Press Writer

FALFURRIAS, Texas - A few Texas ranchers tired of costly repairs to cattle fences damaged by illegal immigrants have installed an easier route over the U.S.-Mexican border — ladders.

"It's an attempt to get them to use the ladders instead of tearing the fences," said Scott Pattinson, who owns one of a group of ranches known as La Copa....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060617/ap_on_re_
us/border_fence_ladders

All the White House can do about the problem is send Bush down to the border to drive around in a dune buggy and pose for the cameras.

All the Republican Congress can do about it is fight over which house can give the most amnestiy to those who hire these illegals.

As usual, the American people are on their own in handling the big problems in this coutry. No, we haven't been abandoned; the Republicans just never showed up to begin with.

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SandyH on June 17, 2006 at 11:18 AM

This is so sad. And so predictable. Can't we show the good grace that the British sported when they had to leave India and let these people fight openly. The violence would end a lot faster in the long run.

7 explosions hit Baghdad within 5 hours

AP - 1 hour, 7 minutes ago

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A series of explosions struck commercial areas in Baghdad within hours Saturday, killing at least 17 people and dealing a blow to a huge government operation to secure the capital.

The blasts � seven within five hours -- brought the death toll around Iraq to at least 23 people. The bombings also wounded at least 72. A day earlier, a suspected shoe bomber blew himself up inside one of Baghdad's most prominent Shiite mosques, killing 13 people...

http://news.yahoo.com/fc/world/iraq

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SandyH on June 17, 2006 at 11:25 AM

Good morning Sandy, we must be reading the same news this morning. :)

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Kristen on June 17, 2006 at 11:25 AM

bush and the republicans...

ARE IMBECILES!

BY PLASTERING AL-ZARQUAWI'S DEAD FACE ALL OVER THE WORLD...

bush and the republicans...

THEY HAVE MADE HIM A MARTYR.

ONLY WHEN AMERICA ELECTS COMPETENT LEADERS WHO ARE WILLING TO TRY DIPLOMACY

THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL AMERICA TAKE BACK IT'S POSITION AS INTERNATIONAL LEADER

for now the republicans will stay the course with...

LIES,...

CORRUPTION, ...

IRRESPONSIBLE CLAIMS OF "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" ...

AND INCOMPETENCY!

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Benji on June 17, 2006 at 11:30 AM

WHAT'S THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AGENDA?

..........DIPLOMACY..........

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Benji on June 17, 2006 at 11:31 AM

Happy Father's Day to all my favorite Dem Dads! I hope your family appreciates you as much as we appreciate you being part of our little Blog Family!


Give thanks to a Spokane daughter for Father's Day

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Kristen on June 17, 2006 at 11:31 AM

gregg, there aren't any adults in the Republian party rigtht now. They let the juvenile delinquents and the con artists take over.

The few adults left that claim they are
Republicans are now mulling over ways they can get the lockbox key turned on our Treasury again...and the war toys taken away from the kids without them throwing a tantrum.

Our adults are hopefully working on stopping voter fraud this fall.

Looks like a pretty nice day here. I better get back to weeding the garden before the rains come back in later this afternoon.

later.

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SandyH on June 17, 2006 at 11:34 AM

Good Morning folks! My friend Sandy in TX wants your opinion:

I have a question I want to ask all of you. I am looking at writing an article on what I feel is a sham perpetrated on the blood of innocents, the victims of 911. -- You continually hear-- "Everything changed after 911" -- BUT no one ever says HOW did things change. Laws were in place that could have caught the folks, there was already terrorists both in the US and outside the US. Terrorists have been around for thousands of years and terrorists have wanted to go into every country--not just the US - to forward their own twisted agenda. So out side of what the Republican and hawks have tried to brain wash us with this vague -- everything has changed after 911 -- What changed? -- The only thing I see is we have allowed a bunch of bullies to take over the playground ( the USA ) for their own. The bullies have changed the rules to fit their personal agendas but not to benefit the country. The bullies have used 911 to add to their personal coffers to the detriment of the United States.

So I would like you opinion-- what changed after 911?

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jen on June 17, 2006 at 11:38 AM

GOP candidate McGavick got millions leaving Safeco

The state Democratic Party asked the Federal Elections Commission in April to investigate McGavick's compensation, arguing the multimillion-dollar package could amount to an illegal campaign subsidy.

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Kristen on June 17, 2006 at 11:41 AM

BY PLASTERING AL-ZARQUAWI'S DEAD FACE ALL OVER THE WORLD...

bush and the republicans...

THEY HAVE MADE HIM A MARTYR.

Benji, that's something I hadn't thought of before. Just what the world needs --- another recruiting point for al Queda and it's worldwide coalition of terrorist groups.

The degree of incompetence within the Pentagon and the Vice President's office continues to astound me. I really don't understand why the military hasn't staged a coup in this country. The Republican buffoons running this war on terror have done everything they can to kill our troops.

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SandyH on June 17, 2006 at 11:46 AM

Jen, what changed after 9/11?

The American people stopped believing that we are a superpower and that our country could change the world.

The Republicans' incompetene and irresponsibility have since confirmed that perception. It's a humbling and heartbreaking exerience for those who had wanted to leave their children and grandchildren a better world.

But I think the Force is still with us. We just have to find our footing again. But it can't happen while the Republicans have us flat on our backs.

Gotta bo. Enjoy the day.

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SandyH on June 17, 2006 at 11:52 AM

Thanks Sandy!

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jen on June 17, 2006 at 11:54 AM

Jen, What happened after 9-11?

PNAC finally got their "Pearl Harbor Event", which they had been hoping for for years, and Clinton kept foiling. (i.e. the Millennium attacks).

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DPD on June 17, 2006 at 11:56 AM

Thx DPD!

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jen on June 17, 2006 at 12:02 PM

What no weekend open thread? sigh.

I would bet you can't find me ONE pacifist, non confrontationalist who hates to argue or fight in the PUG party.

THIS is why we keep losing imo. Those of us that are READY to fight like MURTHA and Gen. CLARK are going to have to be twice as strong or finally light a fire under those that just can't stomach the REAL fight!! (ya hear me DLC??)

So in the end we all end up being just as nasty as the PUGS otherwise we lose. That is so sad. I hope I am wrong.

Being bright and having all the right words still won't win against someone who has a club and can't wait for you to turn around to walk away!

jmo. :-(

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Dawnie on June 17, 2006 at 12:11 PM

OH and Happy B day {{Bill!!}} I hope you have a wonderful day!

sorry to be a downer everyone - I'm heading back out now so you can resume your day! ;-)

Peace!

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Dawnie on June 17, 2006 at 12:33 PM

Posted by lavndrblue on June 17, 2006 at 09:46 AM

Hi lavndrblue,

I live about fifty miles south of Albuquerque. My nearest town north is Belen. I live out in the middle of nowhere on a hillside overlooking the great Rio Grande valley about 18 miles south of Belen.

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dumpw on June 17, 2006 at 12:48 PM

Posted by DocTwain on June 17, 2006 at 10:36 AM

Your posting is awesome as we used to say. I can't think of a thing to add to it.

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dumpw on June 17, 2006 at 12:59 PM

PNAC finally got their "Pearl Harbor Event", which they had been hoping for for years, and Clinton kept foiling. (i.e. the Millennium attacks).

Posted by DPD on June 17, 2006 at 11:56 AM

In my opinion PNAC most likely orchestrated 9/11 and the fixing of the 2000 and 2004 elections. That is why I was saying the other day that this "axis of evil" should be put on the Subversives List by our next president. They appear to be a bunch of criminal Nazi wanabe thugs who will do anything to get their way including mass murder.

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dumpw on June 17, 2006 at 01:05 PM

Bloody Day in Iraq. About 30 people have been killed and 80 injured in a string of attacks in and around the Iraqi capital, Baghdad. Full story:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5089950.stm

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DemocratKickingAss on June 17, 2006 at 01:06 PM

Where does Brian J. Doyle indicate his party affiliation? If he's press aide for Bush, chances are more he's a Repub.

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carlene on June 17, 2006 at 02:11 PM

What changed after 9/11?

Nothing.

Bush had already stolen the election in 2000.

He had already caused our energy policy to be created by API and other industry lobbyists behind closed doors;

His Cabinet were already planning the invasion of Iraq;

He had already permitted Enron to game the California electricity market, robbing thirty-five million consumers--a mere dry run for the oil-and-natural gas game-and-gouge already scheduled to follow--in which the Iraq war was intended to play a pivotal role;

His first round of tax cuts for the rich were on the way;

The GOP ascendancy was already beginning to absurdly increase an already bloated DOD budget for conventional military spending;

GOP elites were already conspiring to use war spending and staggering tax-cuts-for-the-rich to squeeze social programs and ultimately kill Social Security;

Bush had already gone or been sent to the ranch for a month to make it look like he or his Admin was or were inattentive and incompetent--to create a narrative arc for his "changed Presidency" after 9/11;

GOP government was already operating like a well-oiled machine to deliver phenomenal value to its actual clients--a plutocratic supply-side oil-war-gas ascendancy with various satelite industrial special interests;

it was already cynically resurrecting wedge issues to polarize the electorate;

and all the pigs were in the stockyard for the killing.

Nothing changed after 9/11--except that the GOP brazenly exploited a national disaster in order to alternately justify and distract from a program-in-progress to economically cannibalize the middle class and the federal revenues.

In view of the trillions in war pork, graft, tax cuts, gaming of gas and oil, prevention of desperately need environmental reforms opposed by the API, healthcare lockins, conventional military-industrial spending that is utterly inneffectual against terror; ignoring global-warming-driven phenomena like Katrina; failing to take action to protect us from terror at home; failure to establish a natural disaster defense plan; the passage of anti-consumer bankruptcy laws; and the disastrous consquences of all these laws and policies--sowing debt to choke social spending now and kill Social Security in the future, feeding chronic energy-fueled inflation and interest rate increases to grab cash for the rich at the middle class's expense, undermining our laws and Constitution and spewing propaganda to disenfranchise and debase the electorate; ruling instead of leading; --

in view of all these things, many believe that 9/11 was permitted to happen.

Why shouldn't they?

The GOP supply-side ascendancy is so corrupt and so powerful that Americans are to be excused for believing conspiracy theories.

Some of them are certainly true.
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No, nothing has changed since 9/11--except that a GOP with control of all branches of government has passed every policy it desired and the President has vetoed no law--for the first time in history.

Their domination is complete.

There may be one change--Republican voters suffer increasing unreast as they begin to sense, if not to understand, that the current lamentable state of our nation is the result not of the failure of GOP policies, but of their total success. That those policies have nothing to do with the best interests, economic and otherwise, of most Republican voters.

Something that progressives knew all along.

One thing hasn't changed: GOP politicians are doing their usual bait-and-switch, distancing themselves from the President, hyping wedge issues, bashing gays, appealing to xenophobia, in order to pretend they they are not part and party to the ascendancy.

And with their nearly total control of most media, including their recent acts to destroy the CPB-- and the utter failure of most democrats (whether corrupt, complicit, cowardly, or clueless) to tell the truth that scores of millions of voters are aching to hear--and to lead us onto a brilliant progressive platofrm that will restore fairness and democracy to America--
they just might succeed.

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DocTwain on June 17, 2006 at 02:19 PM

actually he's not a lifer. He was a journalist from 1975-2001.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Doyle

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carlene on June 17, 2006 at 02:32 PM

Dems need to understand that we're facing a Different Paradigm.

This election cycle depends not on a liberal/conservative dialectic--if you allow the GOP to frame such a dialectic, you will grievously underperform and suffer further attriition by spurning a great opportunity for reform and change in America.

This election can be truly won only by setting a progressive vs. regressive, populist vs. plutocrat dialectic.

That is the real dialectic of supply-side and neo-con; the other is just a mask.

There IS a class war going on right now--and it's entirely one-sided.

They started it--we have to finish it.
We don't want to abuse them as they abused us--we just want to restore fairness and balance and democracy and responsibility in America.

The deep-rooted authenticity of the prog/reg, pop/plute dialectic was demonstrated by the rise of Perot.

If the democrats unite with progressives--if they actually run as progressives, on a concrete platform that can unite the middle class--a platform that will appeal to the Silent Majority--yet under a brand name many Americans still hope to find a good product from--if they don't allow lib/con wedges to split that platform--if they ADAPT TO THE NEW PARADIGM AND ACTUALLY REPRESENT THE PEOPLE--they will resolve the unrest in their own base, draw non-voters and crossovers, and be recognized as great leaders of America.

If they are concerned about lib issues--know that when the People are empowered, not disenfranchised, and the country is not ruled, but let; true liberal values thrive.

Fall for the feint again, and fail America.

IT'S ALWAYS THE ECONOMY, STUPID!

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DocTwain on June 17, 2006 at 02:38 PM

so does that make him a political appointee or not? hard to believe the republicans wouldn't have control of positions at that level. at this point janitor titles probably require an endorsement from one's senator and a 2k contribution to the pimp shit congressperson of your choice. but then if someone can provide proof he is a civil servant and registered democrat i will believe it.

here is an excerpt from a salon piece about pelosi's response to bush's "mourning in america" chat this a.m.

Democratic Leader Lays Out Party Agenda

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By ERICA WERNER Associated Press Writer

June 17,2006 | WASHINGTON -- If they retake control of Congress, Democrats will act quickly to increase the minimum wage, lower prescription drug costs and slash interest rates on student loans, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said Saturday.

The ideas are part of the Democrats' new domestic agenda, named "New Direction for America," which the party rolled out during the past week. Pelosi, D-Calif., used the party's Saturday radio address to promote the plan.

"A new direction means expanding access to affordable health care for Americans. We will begin by lowering the cost of prescription drugs by putting seniors ahead of pharmaceutical companies and HMOs," Pelosi said.

"A new direction means broadening opportunity by addressing the soaring costs of higher education. We will begin by making tuition tax-deductible and cutting the interest rates of student loans in half."


Pelosi also pledged to improve security, reduce dependence on foreign oil, maintain Social Security and oppose deficit spending. Under the plan the minimum wage would rise from $5.15 to $7.25 over two years, the interest rate on student loans would be cut to 3.4 percent and Democrats would approve a "pay as you go" budgeting rule.

Most of the ideas have been part of Democratic talking points for months but, facing criticism that they lack a cohesive message, the party is regrouping them as a platform to run on in November's midterm elections. Democrats hope to regain control of the House and Senate, which would take a gain of 15 seats in the House and six in the Senate.

On Iraq, Pelosi said: "2006 must be a year of significant transition. It is time for a new direction in Iraq."...

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gregg on June 17, 2006 at 02:39 PM

Dumb dems poll to find out what people think NOW.

Idiots! You have to EDUCATE, to LEAD--

the People are at the mercy of the press.

Why are so many dems so utterly wrong?

Surely they must be corrupt--
I cannot believe so many Americans are such cowards!

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DocTwain on June 17, 2006 at 02:40 PM

LOCAL DIPLOMACY

COUNTY DIPLOMACY

DISTRICT DIPLOMACY

STATE DIPLOMACY

NATIONAL DIPLOMACY

and...

INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMACY

WHAT'S THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL AGENDA?

...............DIPLOMACY...............

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Benji on June 17, 2006 at 02:47 PM

A plague on Pelosi's penny-ante politics!

YOU HAVE TO AIM HIGHER

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DocTwain on June 17, 2006 at 02:48 PM

my new favorite video

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jen on June 17, 2006 at 03:02 PM

excuse me? i think there's more to it than that

Main Entry: di·plo·ma·cy
Function: noun
Pronunciation: d&-'plO-m&-se
1 : the art and practice of conducting negotiations between nations
2 : skill in handling affairs without arousing hostility : TACT

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jen on June 17, 2006 at 03:11 PM

* Keeping America Safe at Home
* Strength Overseas
* Honoring Our Troops, Veterans, and Their Families
* A Strong Economy
* Education
* Retirement Security
* Affordable Health Care
* Honest Government
* Election Reform
* Protecting Our Environment
* Civil Rights

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jen on June 17, 2006 at 03:20 PM

Bruce Springsteen :'We Shall Overcome'

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jen on June 17, 2006 at 03:25 PM

jen, great one at 3:02pm. thanks for that. think i will go out and about and see what the world is doing today.bbl.

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gregg on June 17, 2006 at 03:32 PM

Diplomacy in Keeping America Safe at Home

Diplomacy in Strength Overseas

Diplomacy in Honoring Our Troops, Veterans, and Their Families

Diplomacy in A Strong Economy

Diplomacy in Education

Diplomacy in Retirement Security

Diplomacy in Affordable Health Care

Diplomacy in Honest Government

Diplomacy in Election Reform

Diplomacy in Protecting Our Environment

Diplomacy in Civil Rights

America needs leaders who have skill in handling affairs without arousing hostility : TACT

the republicans are the party of fear, intimidation, division, corruption and lies


WHAT'S THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AGENDA?

...............DIPLOMACY...............

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Benji on June 17, 2006 at 03:33 PM

WHAT'S THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AGENDA?


FAIRNESS, HONESTY, EQUALITY, PROGRESS, JUSTICE

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jen on June 17, 2006 at 03:55 PM

...and don't forget diplomacy.

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Benji on June 17, 2006 at 04:04 PM

jen,

sorry, that list's way too bland.
It's not even a panino--just old pane. et circenses.

"Honoring our troops and their families?"

That's rich. That's a purely defensive move. It concedes that there is an attack on dems' concern for our troops and that dems somehow have to defend against it.

As Kierkegaard pointed out (in a radically different context), the minute ministers begin to try to "justify the ways of god to man"--they've lost the argument. They've moved into in the enemy's dialectic.

OF COURSE we all support our troops--all of us except the GOP elite and bandwagoneer dems who sent our best to die in the plutocrats' war.

"A Strong Economy?" Would you care to get vivid and concrete on that? What do you mean? reversing tax cuts for the rich? balancing the budget? stopping chronic energy-fueled inflation and interest-rate hikes by aggressively requiring clean and renewable energy? Preventing the recession for the middle class which will follow from this inflation and these hikes caused by the GAMING of the oil and gas markets--by cutting oil subsidies, regulating energy markets, and passing the most aggressive CAFE standards, electrial appliance efficiency standards, green construction standards, and clean and renewable energy standards in the world?

"Affordable health care"--what do you mean, some penny-ante meddling with the GOP Medicare prescription drug scam? SORRY--IF YOU DON'T SPECIFIC WE WILL HAVE NO REASON AT ALL TO VOTE FOR YOU. Or do you mean passing a comprehensive national Health Insurance Plan with freedom of choice as to provider that eliminates the redundant bureaucracies of Medicare, Medicaid and the VA, saves billions for businesses, creates great jobs providing health care to 46 million workers and children currently without any insurance at all? Saving and creating more jobs by taking the private-insurer monkey and unfairly inflated drug prices off of businesses' and consumers' backs?

Forgive me if I am combative--the stakes are way too high for me not to fight.

"Education." You have anything concrete on that? Or is it just more dem talk? You could at least say "The right to an Equal Public Education". The implications of that--its torque--is far greater.

"Honest government?" That's rich. How about total reversal of the supply-side greed that put us into a trillion-dollar war that was a lie from the start, and gave the super-rich staggering repeated tax cuts during that "war", while cutting healthcare and student loans and the CPB? How about proposing putting in suppl-side's place a CONCRETE, DETAILED PROGRESSIVE PLATFORM.

We don't want "honest government". We want great legislation. The former follows from the latter, and is, without the latter, meaningless and worthless.

"Election reform." Get concrete! Do you mean secure and verifiable elections? Do you mean completely publically-funded elections? Liberated from a money-driven media by the creation of a national television network allowing ample and equal time for all candidates, national and local, to present their positions and participate in debates? Played simulataneously on the radio and the internet? Archived online and freely accessible? Do you mean, in addition to these--heaven be praised--instant runoff voting? O

Or do you mean just more dem talk that people won't buy because it's all wrapper no product?

"Strength Overseas?" How about global leadership through support for international law, setting an example on the environment and human rights, freeing prisoners held without evidence, ending torture, honoring the Geneva conventions, acting to lead rather than subvert the UN, think of ourselves as citizens of the world? Promoting and joining wise and needed treaties that creating unity and security for the planet?

Retirement Secuity. Do you mean Saving Social Security?

Protecting our Environment? Get specific, or lose!

Republicans could run on the same vague list of words. The words mean nothing. It is concrete proposals and clearly-described reforms that win our votes.

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DocTwain on June 17, 2006 at 04:06 PM

Robert Menendez (D-NJ) blasts Junior ... Kean that is!

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My record is clear, and I will not stand by another minute and let my opponent malign me or my service to the people I have represented throughout my career. Tom, you may be playing with George Bush's campaign playbook, but you're on the field with a different kind of Democrat....

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 04:06 PM

From The Daily Kos:

The massive right-wing pundit machine, who apparently all share a brain, have been bringing back one of their more curious uses of meta-language in the debate lately. The classic "you're just a Bush hater" or "you just hate Bush."

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Well, duh ... okay, that sounds about right to me. Dumbya sucks ... got it!

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 04:11 PM

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A series of explosions struck commercial areas in Baghdad within hours Saturday, killing at least 17 people and dealing a blow to a huge government operation to secure the capital.
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Yeah stay the course ... rah, rah, rah ...
What dumb cheerleader Dumbya is. There's no global war on terror, Iraq is an occupation. 80% of the Iraqi people want us out. Instead, these cut and run Rethuglicans run from truth and expose our people to needless death and bankrupt our nation. Kick them all out in 2006!

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 04:14 PM

What a lot of us suspected--that conservative trolls that seem to generate knee-jerk right wing talking points are just plants that are put there by the endless stream of right wing money earmarked for propaganda--looks like it's probably true. People are reporting that they're getting these comments from people that are coming from this company called Netvocates. The company sells itself as a company that will defend your organization's reputation by sending people to fill blog comments with defenses. The blurb from the site is quite telling:
For many organizations, blogs represent an uncomfortable topic. Unlike traditional communication mediums, blogs frequently impact an organization and its products and image in uncontrolled and often unexpected ways. In addition, the sheer volume of blogs, message boards, and other discussion forums makes it difficult for organizations to effectively monitor the activity relevant to them.

See:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/6/17/12157/4714

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 04:16 PM

Moderated

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Benji on June 17, 2006 at 04:17 PM

It is our responsibility to oversee every single taxpayer dollar that is being spent on this war.

The total bill for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, stands at $450 billion. If we stay in Iraq for just one more year, we will have spent – off-budget, off the books – half-a-trillion-dollars on this war, a debt that President Bush and the Republican majority intend to pass onto our children and grandchildren.

Leadership, Mr. Speaker, requires courage. It requires taking responsibility. It requires accountability. It demands competence. In every single one of these areas, the White House, the Pentagon, this Republican Congress score an “F” for failure.

Instead, all the American people are getting is a world-class PR and spin campaign coming out of the White House.

Make no mistake. H. Res. 861 requires no accountability from the White House or the Congress on the war in Iraq.

It won’t provide any increased protection for our troops on the ground.

It won’t protect our tax dollars from further waste, fraud or abuse.

It won’t demand direction, let alone a plan, from the president about how and when our troops will return home.

So here we are, treating the issues of war and the safety of our troops with a resolution that carries the same force of law as a resolution congratulating a sports team.

Quite frankly, this process is an outrage, and it should be rejected by this House.

I reserve the balance of my time.

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Jim McGovern speaking on the phoney ReThuglican Iraq amendment.

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 04:19 PM

"This is the Republican idea of a policy debate: 10 hours of debate about a resolution that is long on rhetoric and short on substance, a resolution that will have zero impact on Iraq policy or the facts on the ground in Iraq," said Lee.

Lee pointed out that while the resolution the House will vote on does not address major policy issues with relation to Iraq, Republicans leaders have recently made significant decisions about Iraq policy behind closed doors. She pointed to the fact that, despite the House and Senate approving measures to prevent the establishment of permanent military bases in Iraq, Republicans quietly removed the provision in conference committee.

"While we're debating a sham bill, the most substantive decision on Iraq policy in recent days, a decision that could impact whether our troops come home or not, was taken by the Republican majority behind closed doors," said Lee. "Quietly removing a measure that was approved by both the House and Senate is a gross abuse of the democratic process, and is further evidence that Republicans are afraid to level with the American people about their real plans for Iraq.

"The President and the Republican majority refuse to level with the American people not only about when our troops are coming home, but if they're coming home at all. I believe that we should be judged by our deeds not our words, and while Republicans are saying there should be no timeline, their actions say that more than one third of our troops in Iraq, 50,000 brave men and women, may not be coming home at all," said Lee.

"I support the Murtha Resolution and I believe we should bring our troops home. If my Republican colleagues believe we should permanently leave a force of 50,000 American troops in Iraq-as the New York Times recently reported-then I think the Republicans should defend their position on the Floor and put it to a vote," said Lee. "If the Republican majority wanted to truly debate Iraq policy, then this is what we would be debating and voting on today-not this sham resolution.

"Let me tell you, there will be a day of reckoning. The American people are demanding answers. They deserve a truthful accounting of how we got into this unnecessary war. They deserve to know WHEN our troops are coming home. They deserve to know IF our troops are coming home. The American people will not forget that instead of answers to their questions, the Republican majority gave them more rhetoric and posturing," Lee concluded.

***

Barbara Lee (D-CA) speaking on the sham ReThuglican Iraq debate.

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 04:21 PM

Newly released emails suggest Army Corps lied about Cheney role in Halliburton contract
By davidswanson
Created 2006-06-16 09:05
By Avery Walker

New documents obtained by a conservative watchdog group suggest that the US Army Corp of Engineers may have publicly lied regarding the involvement of the Vice President's office in awarding a 2003 multi-billion dollar, no-bid contract to Kellogg Brown and Root, a subsidiary of Halliburton, RAW STORY has learned. READ MORE [1]

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It's not nice Shotgun DickHead Cheney when you lie! The most crooked government in the hostory of this country is Bush/Cheney aided by a rotten bunch of Rethuglican Senators and Congressional Reps. They have done nothing but rip this country apart for six years. I say enough of them!

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 04:24 PM

Benji--
what do you mean by "diplomacy and tact"? Diplomacy and tact TO WHOM?

If you mean to 99% of "republican voters" then I'd say yes. If you mean toward the supply-side- plutocrat-GOP elites running the one-sided class war then the answer is never again!

dem voters have had enough of their so-called representatives' "tact" and their cowardice and their dithering and their vagueness and their failure and their bandwagoneering and their corruption and their disunity and their shitty compromises, to vomit.

WE need truth. And leadership. And an end to this class war.

The truth is that we are not in a lib/con, but a pop/plute, dialectic. We can win big in it, uniting the middle class, pulling in the Silent majority, the Perot voters, winning crossovers.

We don't attack republican voters--we have to make a distinction between the deceivers and the deceived. We don't let con/lib wedges split a progressive platform. We say let's put those squabbles aside--we in the middle class have to find common ground and build a platform on it. We're workin' on a buildin'. We're going to restore balance, fairness and democracy in America.

WE don't antagonize religion. WE lay off evangelicals. We court them for what they are--members of the middle class.

Mealy-mouthed "tact" and shitty compromise is NOT the way to win.

Just direct your attacks to those who deserve them--GOP elites, supply-side plutocrats and the war/fossil fuel ascendancy with its satellite industrial special interests.

How many "republican voters" does that include?
Newsflash--less than one percent.

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DocTwain on June 17, 2006 at 04:25 PM

In my opinion PNAC most likely orchestrated 9/11 and the fixing of the 2000 and 2004 elections. That is why I was saying the other day that this "axis of evil" should be put on the Subversives List by our next president. They appear to be a bunch of criminal Nazi wanabe thugs who will do anything to get their way including mass murder.

***

A bit more than just wanabe thugs ... they are the worst thugs I ever seen. That is why the country is so miserable and why people feel we are on the wrong track. You have thugs in charge and how could it possibly get on the right track. Get rid of them!

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 04:26 PM

Moderated

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Benji on June 17, 2006 at 04:28 PM

Posted by carlene on June 17, 2006 at 02:32 PM

He was also appointed to a federal post in 2002 and transferred to the aide job later. He is obviously a repuke appointed by bush cronies.

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dumpw on June 17, 2006 at 04:28 PM

We don't attack republican voters--we have to make a distinction between the deceivers and the deceived.
***

very true! Don't attack your fellow citzins - by and large they are deluded by the Rethuglicans. When I say Rethuglicans I mean the polticians in the Republican party and the power structure that drives them (the Corporatists, lobbyists who pump billions into their machine).

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 04:29 PM

Freep this Poll:

As many of you may be aware of, supposedly Richard Mellon Scaife funds both NewsMax's David Horowitz and Ann Coulter. As such, NewMax has been a positive whore in touting Ann Coulter.

NewMax is now running a poll asking if Coulter went too far.

More after the jump.

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http://www.newsmax.com/poll/coulter/?s=et&promo_code=2135-1
I include the media swine such as Coulter, Hannity and Limbaugh as part of the Rethuglican machine.

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 04:35 PM

Instead of "focusing on good ideas," Rove opined that the "Internet for the Left of the Democratic Party" only "mobilize hate and anger."

Yes we are mad as hell because asswipes like you have destroyed this country and I want it back from creeps like you and Limbaugh. And speaking of Limbaugh, people like that jerk has made us mad because he speaks hate. We are only responding to that hate. So Sally or what ever your name is this week, you can kiss my butt because you're part of the scum gene pool who has made Americans mad... we're mad as hell and we're not going to take it sitting down anymore! Rove, Limbaugh and the Sally types - here's a 3rd figure salute. You're all a piece of trash.

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Kathy_in_Indiana on June 17, 2006 at 04:39 PM

During the phony Iraq-war debate in the House of Representatives yesterday, Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) had the nerve to go after Congressman Jack Murtha (D-PA), a highly-decorated Vietnam Veteran. After saying some nice things about him, Gohmert said of Murtha, "… thank god he was not here and prevailed after the bloodbaths at Normandy and in the Pacific or we would be here speaking Japanese or German."

Murtha took to the floor and challenged him by asking him if he had served in any of those places. An excerpt:

Murtha: Was the gentleman at any of those locations? Either at Normandy or any of those locations?

Gohmert: You want to know which locations?

Murtha: Yeah. Normandy? I say were you there?

Gohmert: No, sir. I wasn't.

Murtha: Were you in Vietnam?

Gohmert: No, sir.

Murtha: Iraq?

Gohmert: No. I have been over there. I haven't been fighting.

Murtha: Boots on the ground?

Gohmert: I do admire the gentleman's compassion and all he has done for our wounded. He has done a great service that would be you, Mr. Murtha.

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This is what Rethuglicans are good for - Ad Hominem attacks - just as their speaker Boner (I mean Boehner) advised them to do. What a pack of filth!

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 04:43 PM

Well, that is a stupid thing to say, of course 80% oof the Iraqi people want us out - I'm surprised it isn't 100%. When we leave the country will be save and secure. They want us out but very few want us out right now.

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Ad Hominen attacks on me from this Sally Troll.

Blah, who gives a damn what you think.

Isn't it time for Limbaugh or Savage or one of your Rethuglican hate mongers.

There is no war in Iraq. It is an occupation. Plain and simple. Zarqawi only attacked us because we are there. But the kool-aide drinkers just can't figure it out.

Sally - you are a troll, plain and simple.

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 04:47 PM

In yet another sign that a seismic shift in Congressional power is needed in November, the House of Representatives voted 256-153 today to rejected a timetable for a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq. The Republican-controlled House passed a resolution, H. RES. 861, saying that "… it is not in the national security interest of the United States to set an arbitrary date for the withdrawal or redeployment of United States Armed Forces from Iraq" and "…the United States is committed to the completion of the mission to create a sovereign, free, secure, and united Iraq."

Of course, the Bush administration still has to contend with the problem that they've set no metric for how we will know when we've completed the mission. There's also that one, other little detail -- the American people were never told to begin with that the goal of the war was to "…create a sovereign, free, secure, and united Iraq."

“2,500 troops killed, 18,000 wounded more than half of them permanently, the strain our military readiness and eroding our reputation in the world. Stay the course – I don’t think so. It’s time to face the facts," said House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) on the House floor this morning. “The war in Iraq has been a mistake – a grotesque mistake. It must be our resolve to end the war as soon as possible and to resolve to not make similar mistakes in the future. We owe it to the American people and we owe it to the young men and women that we send in to fight the fight."

Meanwhile, the tin-eared GOP, apparently not understanding that the majority of Americans no longer support this war, offered more of the same: Stay the same bloody, mindless course.

"Retreat is not an option in Iraq," said House Majority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) "Achieving victory is our only option ... We have no choice but to confront these terrorists, win the war on terror and spread freedom and democracy around the world."

What doesn't bode well for Boehner and his party this fall is that the majority of Americans don’t agree with that nonsense.

The most recent Gallup poll on Iraq, taken June 9-11, shows that, even with the benefit of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's death last week, 6 in 10 Americans say that the United States' image in the world is "worse off," because of the Iraq war. When asked about the impact of the war on Americans themselves, 42 percent said that we are worse off, while 31 percent said "the same" and a surprising 26 percent think we are doing better.

These results have been supported by every other major poll done in 2006, which naturally begs the question: Who are the Republicans in Congress representing?

While the GOP continues to make speeches implying that people against the Iraq war are out of touch or, even worse, unpatriotic and treasonous, it is clear that Americans need to go to the polls on November 7 and clear Capitol Hill of those who are truly out of the mainstream.

Pelosi makes the argument that, in addition to avoiding more needless deaths in Iraq, a drastic leadership change is necessary for our national security.

“The Bush Iraq policy has diverted resources and attention from what should be the focus of our effort against terrorism in places like Afghanistan," said Pelosi. "The lack of stability and deteriorating security situation in Afghanistan is a casualty of the war in Iraq. The war has not made our country safer, it has not made our military stronger, it has caused great damage to our reputation in the world, and it has hindered the fight against terrorism."

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Stop cutting and running from the truth Rethuglicans.

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 04:49 PM

Posted by Kathy_in_Indiana on June 17, 2006 at 04:39 PM

Here's my third finger salute for axis sally. I am thoroughly pissed too and I am not going to take it anymore.

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dumpw on June 17, 2006 at 04:50 PM

In my opinion PNAC most likely orchestrated 9/11 and the fixing of the 2000 and 2004 elections.
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I don't know that they fixed of the elections - the RNC and Rove did that. I do agree that they were aching for the 9/11 attacks to begin their imperialistic oil "wars" and occupation of oil wealthy countries.

Did they orchestrate it or did they advise "cut and run" Dumbya to turn his back while we were attacked? Probably the latter.

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 04:53 PM

Folks Sally to the second power is a troll.

Keep responding to it and it won't go away.

Generally, these trolls are operatives paid to break up blogs. I already posted a reference to how they function.

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 04:54 PM

WORLD CUP SOCCER

USA 1
ITALY 1

(tie)

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Benji on June 17, 2006 at 04:54 PM

Moderated

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Benji on June 17, 2006 at 04:57 PM

Eli Pariser introduced Russ Feingold this morning, who was cheered with "Run, Russ, Run!" as he arrived, and who received four standing ovations just during the introduction and many, many more during his speech. When Pariser mentioned Feingold's vote against the Patriot Act, his vote against the war, and his plan to end the war, the crowd rose and cheered.

Feingold began by arguing that the Democrats need more than a majority in Congress. We were in the majority, he said, when we passed the Patriot Act and when we went to war in Iraq. Being in the majority is not enough. We have to also stand on principle and do the right thing.

We must not be afraid of criticizing this administration, Feingold said. This is our job. I happen to believe it's also good politics.

Feingold said that people ask the same thing all over the country: When are you guys going to stand up?

Feingold repeatedly objected to strategists' advice. They tell him to play it safe.

There will not be progressive change this year or any year, Feingold said, if we think we can win by default. That makes us look weak and full of fear.

Feingold said he saw a little sign of hope when Harry Reid shut down the Senate – but it didn't last.

Had there been a connection to 9-11, he said, or credible evidence of an imminent threat from WMDs, I would have voted for it [the war] . It wasn't there. I was in the CIA briefings. It wasn't credible.

Al Zarqawi, Feingold pointed out, was not in Iraq until after the war began. He was in the Kurdish-controlled area. This war gave him a platform to come into Iraq and recruit terrorists.

Feingold received huge applause when he said that Bush was ignoring the three words "under the law." Bush is breaking the law with his illegal spying, Feingold stressed. The President, he said, is claiming that if he doesn’t like a law that Congress passes, he can disregard it.

This is a constitutional crisis!

I am not advocating the impeachment of the president, but I do believe his actions are right in the strike zone of what the founding fathers had in mind when they wrote the words "high crimes and misdemeanors". [thunderous applause]

Feingold then said that instead of impeachment he proposes censure. He offered no argument for that choice.

He did complain that consultants told him to stay away from censure. He said the polls show they are wrong politically as well as morally. He did not comment on similar public support for impeachment.

Feingold concluded by pointing to the lasting impact of the Republicans' wins in 1994, and said that the Democrats need progressive wins that will last for many years – clearly suggesting that the way to do that will be to get behind his presidential campaign.

I heard comments on bloggers row afterwards to the effect of "I like him but don't know if he's viable." I've got news for you, guys, what we like IS what is viable. Otherwise we're listening to the consultants that Feingold has learned to ignore.

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 04:57 PM

Here's my third finger salute for axis sally. I am thoroughly pissed too and I am not going to take it anymore.

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This Sally is just a troll. Not worth it!

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 05:00 PM

In a speech met with multiple standing ovations, Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) delivered the lunch keynote on day two of the YearlyKos conference and told a crowd filled with liberal activists and bloggers "never, ever become silent about things that matter and we will get our country back."

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, who had been scheduled to appear with Boxer, canceled at the last minute due to Congressional business.

Speaking to a packed hotel ballroom, Boxer covered a variety of topics including the midterm elections, the domestic spying scandal, gay marriage and the war in Iraq.

"I voted no on going to war," said Boxer to thunderous applause. "It was one of the best votes I ever cast in so many years of public life. There are only 23 of us in the Senate who voted that way and it was a very hard thing to do."

Boxer acknowledged the presence of Ambassador Joe Wilson, whose wife, Valerie Plame, is the former CIA agent outed by the Bush White House.

"They went after your family. It's despicable and cowardly and you deserve our thanks," said Boxer directly to Wilson, who was sitting nearby in the audience. "He goes out, he went and found out the truth about Saddam's supposed efforts to get weapons of mass destruction. He comes back and tells the truth and instead of getting thanked, what happens? They go after his family. Can you think of anything more cowardly than that?"

Boxer railed against the Bush administration for its warrantless, domestic spying program saying "we cannot stand by quietly as our privacy is invaded."

"We are facing a White House that is dangerously incompetent and a Republican Congress that is far too eager to write a blank check or turn a blind eye."

Talking about the Iraq war, Boxer invoked a recent conversation with the mother of a soldier deployed to Baghdad who told Boxer that a recent letter from her son conveyed agreement with what the majority of the American people are feeling. "We've done all we can do -- it's time for us to come home," said Boxer, quoting from the soldier's letter.

But Boxer saved her most forceful comments for the disgraceful attempts by the Republican party to write discrimination against the gay community into the U.S. Constitution.

"If you really want to do something to help marriages, raise the minimum wage, help people raise their families. You wanna do something to save marriages, help people get health care so that pressure is off their families," said Boxer to massive applause. "How about saving marriages in the military where the divorce rate on those over in Iraq has doubled over the last few years? Bring home the troops to help save marriages.

"If gay marriage threatens your marriage then there's something wrong with your marriage. It's not the problem of other people who want to live together."

The California Senator had special praise for the blogging community and provided encouraging words when asked by an audience member about the negative way some in Congress may view bloggers.

"You shouldn’t worry about what other people think. Just keep doing what you're doing because it's working."

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Barbara Boxer is terrific.

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 05:03 PM

Moderated

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Benji on June 17, 2006 at 05:04 PM

Iraqis burn Israeli and US flags as they demonstrate against the U.S. occupation in the holy city of Karbala. (AFP/Mohammed Sawaf)

Bring 'em on: U.S. troops searched Saturday for two soldiers who went missing after an attack that killed one of their comrades at a traffic checkpoint in the so-called "Triangle of Death" just south of Baghdad, the military said.

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Ummm yeah, sounds like it is going real good in Iraq ... getting Zarqawi made such a big difference. Baloney!

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 05:08 PM

Larry Johnson - former CIA officer - speaking on the Randi Rhodes show:

27-year CIA veteran shares his perspective on Iraq and why Rove escaped indictment

This is just another stunt on the backs of our troops to further confuse 9/11 with Iraq and to attempt to smear those who, like the overwhelming majority of Americans, know we need a new strategy. Grrrrr!

Worse still, all attempts to add meaningful amendments were crushed by the GOP Majority and all “debate” from Repugs centered on smearing those who know how to plan and fight a war.

Oh, and by the way, the Iraqis want a timetable. Too bad for them…remember, Bush’s goal is to NEVER LEAVE IRAQ.

Meanwhile, GOP Senators cheer Iraq’s amnesty plan for insurgents that only killed/attacked US troops…bizarrely comparing it to WWII, etc. More.

Note to the GOP: WWII was OVER, the territory secured, and NO ONE WAS DYING when German and Japanese prisoners were released…our troops are still being killed at the hands of anti-occupation insurgents every day! Stunning!

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 05:12 PM

LAWSUITS AND FAIR ELECTIONS

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pee-wee on June 17, 2006 at 05:15 PM

RFK, Jr. on Ring Of Fire:

pee-wee Thanx for the post!

No doubt in my mind that the Rethugs stole both elections. In fact, they lost the election in 2000.

I just don't think PNAC was behind it. Rove and the RNC goons planned this.

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 05:20 PM

They say they have whistle blowers.

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pee-wee on June 17, 2006 at 05:30 PM

They say they have whistle blowers.

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I heard that part. More people that work for Diebold are stepping forward to talk about these machines.

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 05:38 PM

Occupation

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pee-wee on June 17, 2006 at 05:39 PM

do you call yourself Sally because you like to dress in women's clothing?
Posted by Benji on June 17, 2006 at 04:28 PM

He spent two years trying to talk me into joining along with him, and he wanted me to call myself "Mary".

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Domingo on June 17, 2006 at 05:43 PM

Foreign inflows into US markets fell to their lowest level in a year in April, according to Treasury data that supported a widely held market belief in the dollar's long-term downtrend.

The greenback has rallied as investors have brought funds home amid global worries about tighter monetary conditions. But Thursday's data showed that the dollar's April slide was less the result of short-term speculative moves than of lower long-term inflows.

Net inflows dropped to $42.7bn in April, down from a revised $70.4bn in March and below the $63.4bn trade deficit recorded for the month. Watchers look for the capital inflows to cover the trade outflows since failing to do so implies less demand for dollars and suggests the greenback will weaken.


Weaken further.


In April the dollar fell against range of currencies, losing more than 4 per cent on a trade-weighted basis and accelerating the slide that began in March. Decline slowed in May: the dollar reached its nadir against the euro (the most frequently traded currency pair) at a one-year low of $1.297...

...Analysts found little positive in the report. The data would have been much worse if not for a sharp rise in proportion of inflows described as "official" - which covers buying by foreign central banks - compared with private flows, which are more desirable since they indicate broad-based demand for US assets.

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The reason why the dollar is deflating is very simple. We are mounting up incredible about of debt due to the Iraq occupation and the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy.

This sets a vicious cycle where inflation grows as the dollar deflates because it takes more money to buy goods & services. In addition, interest rates will continue to climb furthering the problem by slowing down growth.

This is what Re-Thuglicanism has brought us - needless deaths and financial ruin.

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 05:45 PM

Occupation

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You got ir right pee-wee - it is an occupation.
The Iraqi people want us out. If we are serious about democracy in Iraq then we should leave!

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 05:48 PM

Oh, and by the way, the Iraqis want a timetable. Too bad for them…remember, Bush’s goal is to NEVER LEAVE IRAQ.

Meanwhile, GOP Senators cheer Iraq’s amnesty plan for insurgents that only killed/attacked US troops…bizarrely comparing it to WWII, etc.

Posted by rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 05:20 PM

rjsnj, the Republican are still living in a pre-Korea/Vietnam world...and they think Iraqi is somewhere between England and France, so this occupations has to be a good idea.

I wonder if Hassert and Frist and the rest of the Republican Congressional gang will be surprised when the Iraqis don't celebrate Octoberfest this year along with the rest of the European Christians?

The fact that Bush has replaced Saddam for an Iranian-backed Islamic theocracy which is demanding a timetable for our withdrawal ASAP seems to go right over their heads.

The Congressional Republicans this week went merrily along picking out curtains and slipcovers for our permanent bases that the Iranians plan to either shut down or nuke. I wouldn't hang those curtains just yet.


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SandyH on June 17, 2006 at 05:49 PM

This is what Re-Thuglicanism has brought us - needless deaths and financial ruin.

Posted by rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 05:45 PM

But they are good Christians who didn't do this on purpose? Wink, wink. Smirk, smirk.

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SandyH on June 17, 2006 at 05:58 PM

Why is the regressive republican party against Iraqi sovereignty?

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pee-wee on June 17, 2006 at 05:58 PM

But they are good Christians who didn't do this on purpose? Wink, wink. Smirk, smirk.

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Yeah Dumbya talks to God ... so he claims. Maybe he has an ear ache and can't hear God too well or maybe Rove is his God.

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rjsnj on June 17, 2006 at 06:02 PM

There is a new open thread.

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Kristen on June 17, 2006 at 06:06 PM

Support our troops! Unless they're Black. Freedom's on the march.

Massacre of the Buffalo Soldiers

African-American voters scrubbed by secret GOP hit list.

Palast, who first reported this story for BBC Television Newsnight (UK) and Democracy Now! (USA), is author of the New York Times bestseller, Armed Madhouse.

The Republican National Committee has a special offer for African-American soldiers: Go to Baghdad, lose your vote.

A confidential campaign directed by GOP party chiefs in October 2004 sought to challenge the ballots of tens of thousands of voters in the last presidential election, virtually all of them cast by residents of Black-majority precincts.

Here’s how the scheme worked: The RNC mailed these voters letters in envelopes marked, “Do not forward”, to be returned to the sender. These letters were mailed to servicemen and women, some stationed overseas, to their US home addresses. The letters then returned to the Bush-Cheney campaign as “undeliverable.”

The lists of soldiers of “undeliverable” letters were transmitted from state headquarters, in this case Florida, to the RNC in Washington. The party could then challenge the voters’ registration and thereby prevent their absentee ballots being counted.

more at... http://www.gregpalast.com/massacre-of-the-buffalo-soldiers

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Domingo on June 17, 2006 at 06:07 PM

Yes! New Open Thread
Let's get to work.

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pee-wee on June 17, 2006 at 06:12 PM

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THERE IS A NEW OPEN THREAD, (read the first post)

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DPD on June 17, 2006 at 06:13 PM

Dear Sen. Cornyn,

As a Republican, I don't think I've ever been prouder of one of our senators than I was today when you rose to address the terrorist amnesty issue. Like you, I don't think the US Senate should condemn the Iraqi Prime Minister for offering amnesty to terrorists who kill our soldiers. Why waste time on it? It's not like our military is staffed with College Republicans

JC Christian

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Domingo on June 17, 2006 at 06:19 PM

This is nothing new, is it?

Sex offender is campaign manager for Rep. Randy Graf

"The Republican Party has a campaign manager in the state of Arizona by the name of Steve Aiken who was convicted back in 1995 of having sexual relations with a teenager. ABC News has the story.

http://thebluestate.typepad.com/my_weblog/2006/06/republican_camp.html

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Domingo on June 17, 2006 at 06:57 PM

Dear Republican Party,


"We're gonna win!

We're gonna win!

Nanny Nanny Noo Noo!

We're gonna beat you!"

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FreedomOfSpeechForProgressiveMajority on June 18, 2006 at 08:38 AM


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