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rummy want to make friends after calling us appeasers....when hell freezes over rummy, when hell freezes over.
rummy wants to be our friend now that he called us nazi symps....guess again rummy, we'll see you in hell first.
sorry about the two similar messages. but i mean them both so what the heck?
Don't forget to catch Governor Dean on Face the Nation tomorrow.
you gotta repeat things and catapult the antipropaganda, gregg!
hi sunny!
Donald Rumsfeld certainly is an interesting character. After delivering a controversial speech to the American Legion this week, the Defense Secretary responded to the ensuing hullabaloo with an LA Times op-ed — in which he proceeded to make the exact same points that made his speech controversial in the first place.
In speaking to our veterans, I suggested several questions to guide us during this struggle against violent extremists:
* With the growing lethality and availability of weapons, can we truly afford to believe that vicious extremists can somehow be appeased?
* Can we really continue to think that free countries can negotiate a separate peace with terrorists?
* Can we truly afford to pretend that the threats today are simply "law enforcement" problems rather than fundamentally different threats requiring fundamentally different approaches?
* Can we truly afford to return to the destructive view that America — not the enemy — is the real source of the world’s troubles?
It’s a shame these questions are so tragically flawed.
And speaking of Rumsfeld, reports of his reaching out to Democrats have been greatly exaggerated.
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What Rumsfeld doesn't realize (or maybe he does) is that his speech insulted all Americans - Democrats, Independents and even Republicans. When a politician calls the citizens immoral / stupid / unpatriotic, they run the risk of a backlash against them. Rumsfeld didn't have any credibility going into that speech and now he has even less (if that is possible).
Gingrich: Powerful Pelosi 'would be a disaster'
COLUMBIA, S.C. - Ex-U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Wednesday that the thought of California Rep. Nancy Pelosi becoming the next leader of the House and being third in line to the presidency is frightening.
"The prospect of her bringing San Francisco values, I think, would be a disaster for the country".
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14600840/
Possible Presidential Candidate Newt Gingrich - The Dark Side.
A joke? Violating the espionage act is now a joke? If it is a joke, it's a real bad one. Rove should resign along with Cheney who was the architect of the Plame outing.
Posted by rjsnj on September 2, 2006 at 03:35 PM
Well, that is the joke, nobody violated any espionage act. Plame's husband Joe Wildon outed his wife by publishing a bogus editorial in the New York times. In that editorial he said that the Nigerian government had not been approched by the Iraqi government for the purpose of purchasing uranium yellow cake. But in his report to the CIA Wilson said that the Iraqi's had tried to buy uranium from the Nigerians. By lying and bringing that much attention to himself, his wifes employment was bound to come out.
Newt's New Con
Of all the voices berating the Republican Party for its culture of corruption, none rings more hollow than Newt Gingrich's. According to the Associated Press, the former House Speaker has said he is considering running for President in 2008. Now, in preparation, he is leading a stampede of corrupt Republicans desperate to distance themselves from the money-for-votes scandal plaguing the nation's capital.
Gingrich isn't stupid. He knows that in today's era of establishment-worshiping journalism, all he had to do was give one speech pretending to be outraged at the scandals and the media would largely ignore that Gingrich was the happy midwife of the out-of-control corruption America is now living through.
Gingrich's calculation was right.
Gingrich, after all, was the architect of the so-called K Street Project, which is at the center of the current corruption scandals. As the Post reported in 2002, "Starting in the mid-1990s, some Republicans, including then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) and [Representative Tom] DeLay, have advocated tracking the political affiliation of lobbyists, as part of an effort to place more conservatives on K Street." In return, K Street would help the GOP ram through corporate-written legislation and fill GOP coffers with campaign contributions. It worked perfectly.
Gingrich is now puffing out his chest and telling everyone what a bad guy he supposedly thinks Jack Abramoff is--but he is noticeably silent when it comes to how he was Abramoff's prime sponsor, the one who helped the GOP lobbyist ascend to power in the first place.
In 1994 Abramoff parlayed his close connections with Gingrich into a big job at the lobbying firm Preston, Gates & Ellis. The firm issued a press release upon hiring Abramoff, noting that he "developed and maintains strong ties to Speaker Newt Gingrich." In 1995 the Times noted how the relationship between Abramoff and the Speaker was fueling the K Street Project: "Jack Abramoff, a lobbyist here who is close to Mr. Gingrich.
The Nation
domingo, yes we really need newt to bring those down south get your hospitalized wife to sign the divorce papers values in the congress..
Dean Asks Bush to Show Leadership
Thu Sep 1st, 2005 at 11:42:38 PM EST
Video of Bush on GMA with Diane Sawyer. The ignoramus says, "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees." -- Via Crooks & Liars
"Asked in an interview on ABC's "Good Morning America" if U.S. oil companies should forfeit profits during the crisis, Bush said instead American corporations should contribute cash to hurricane relief funds.
"Howard Dean [DNC chair] seized on that comment. [W]hile Bush was 'asking ordinary Americans to do more, he ought to show some real leadership, and call on his friends in Big Oil to join in the sacrifice and stop gouging American families at the gas pump'." - From Reuters at Wired News
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Engineers warned for years that the levees could be breached by even a category 1 hurricane. Basically, the levees are not anchored in the lake's bed, they are weighed down with sandbags. A rush of water got under the levees pushing them up.
Well, what do you expect from a man who ignored the PDB that Bin Laden is determined to strike in the United States. Everything according to Dumbya is bad luck. Yeah right!
;) rjs
Smearing Joe Wilson Again By Robert Parry
In a world that wasn’t upside-down, the editorial page of Washington’s biggest newspaper might praise a whistleblower like former Ambassador Joseph Wilson for alerting the American people to a government deception that helped lead the country into a disastrous war that has killed 2,627 U.S. soldiers.
sally i told you you were not welcome and where is the address for the new cool site?
WASHINGTON (AP) -- A day after a Pentagon report described spreading sectarian violence and increasingly complex security problems in Iraq, President Bush painted a rosier picture.
is it really necessary to let this lying tool babble on the radio every saturday...why not replace his act with some old shadow recordings?
These right wingers just can't deal with reality. They also never get a name or fact right ... because they can't deal with reality.
Their latest nonsense is that Plame was outed by Wilson's news column - which they have the gaul to say was false. Interesting as the IAEA confirms that Wilson was accurate as did British intelligence. Saddam never did buy yellow cake.
But no matter ... The simple fact is that name Valerie Plame never was in Wilson's article. Rove, Libby and Cheney spread that name thus outing Plame. Face it - the entire bunch should be sitting in jail. At the very least, the treasonous rats should have resigned. But they have no honor just like the trollies. They are just interested in petty needling. Trollies - I don't care what you to say, isn't it time for Savage or Limbaugh or whatever trash you listen to.
Bush encouraged by Iraq No civil war, he says. 13 pilgrims slain
and he never lies and he is always right.
In a world that wasnt upside-down, the editorial page of Washingtons biggest newspaper might praise a whistleblower like former Ambassador Joseph Wilson for alerting the American people to a government deception that helped lead the country into a disastrous war that has killed 2,627 U.S. soldiers.
Posted by jen on September 2, 2006 at 04:29 PM
Do you totally miss the point?
Wilson was not a whistleblower, Wilson was a liar.
Wilson said in the NY Times that Iraq had not tried to buy uranium from Nigeria. But he reported to the CIA that Iraq had tried to buy uranium yellow cake from Nigeria.
gregg, the site is "olberman watch", and they have as their header, "Tasteless Mockery Since 2004".
It's basically a screed for idiots who don't deal with the facts olberman puts out, but resort to such deep discussion as "he is orange. Is that a fake tan?".
"I bet he wears a rug", and the like. I've looked in on it a few times. It's basically juvenile rantings and name calling.
Even the Ace of Spades HQ is more mature, and actually puts their arguments out with some semblence of sanity (but not ALL of the posters).
In a world that wasn’t upside-down, the editorial page of Washington’s biggest newspaper might praise a whistleblower like former Ambassador Joseph Wilson for alerting the American people to a government deception that helped lead the country into a disastrous war that has killed 2,627 U.S. soldiers.
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Jen,
It is amazing. This is the result of the hate mongering by the neocons. They have to prove that they are never wrong. When they can't win an argument by logical means they resort to smear and outright lies. If the Bush admin. had any honor, he would have demanded that anyone connected to the Plame mess hand in their resignation - that includes Rove and Cheney. But, Bush has no honor. He is the worst of power hungry neocons.
Partisan Trends: Number of Republicans Declines to 32-Month Low
September 1, 2006
The number of Americans calling themselves Republican has fallen to its lowest level in more than two-and-a-half years. Just 31.9% of American adults now say they’re affiliated with the GOP. That’s down from 37.2% in October 2004 and 34.5% at the beginning of 2006. These results come from Rasmussen Reports tracking surveys of 15,000 voters per month and have a margin of sampling error smaller than a percentage point.
WASHINGTON (AP) -- A day after a Pentagon report described spreading sectarian violence and increasingly complex security problems in Iraq, President Bush painted a rosier picture. Posted by gregg on September 2, 2006 at 04:33 PM
The more things went wrong during Viet Nam, the more Johnson had self-doubts. The more things go wrong in Iraq, the more Bush Jr becomes convinced he's right.
Wilson was not a whistleblower, Wilson was a liar.
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As I said, when they can't argue logically they resort to smear. The only liar is the Bush administration. They were told by multiple sources that Iraq did NOT buy yellow cake from Nigeria yet Bush said that in the State of the Union.
But I doubt that trolls will ever acknowledge reality. What's the sense of discussing anything with them? They are hear to annoy people, insult them and do not add to the discussion.
gregg, the site is "olberman watch", and they have as their header, "Tasteless Mockery Since 2004".
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Another right wing nut hate site!
RalphCrandon -
Please provide some credible evidence (meaning something other than cyber transcripts of Rush Limbaugh's wet dreams) that Joe Wilson reported to the CIA that the Iraqis tried to buy uranium yellow cake from Niger (you DO know that was Niger, not Nigeria, don't you?).
If such a report existed, one would think that your lying motherfucker of a president would have cited it rather than a British intelligence report - you remember..."The British have learned..."
Please...be specific in your citation. Just don't be a coward and hide, OK?
Their latest nonsense is that Plame was outed by Wilson's news column - which they have the gaul to say was false. Interesting as the IAEA confirms that Wilson was accurate as did British intelligence. Saddam never did buy yellow cake.
Posted by rjsnj on September 2, 2006 at 04:35 PM
Wilson's report to the CIA said that Saddam had tried to buy uranium from Nigeria not that he did buy.
And of course Saddam had bought yellow cake in the past. Saddam had 400 tons of it under UN weapons inspector seal. And those seals are real hard to break. It would require the use of a wire cutter.
damn right rj.
Lessons for Labor Day
CEO's in the oil and defense industries are making out like profiteering bandits. Wages for American workers are declining while their productivity is rising. Recent polls show that workers feel pessimistic about their economic prospects. And a new US Census Report reveals growing poverty, especially among children.
Happy Labor Day.
September 1, 2006
The number of Americans calling themselves Republican has fallen to its lowest level in more than two-and-a-half years. Just 31.9% of American adults now say they’re affiliated with the GOP
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That's a huge drop. I feel bad for disillusioned Republicans. They have an ideology that I often don't agree with but they aren't bad people, their leadership is made up of very bad people. I hope they don't drop out completely and instead come over to the Democrats.
thanks rj. think i need to get outdoors for awhile before my face becomes intertwined with the screen.bbl.
Please...be specific in your citation. Just don't be a coward and hide, OK?
Posted by BaronScarpia on September 2, 2006 at 04:43 PM
It came out during the 9/11 hearings and is in their report, it is old news. It is why the 9/11 commission largely discredited Joe Wilson's testimony.
If future historians wonder how the United States could have blundered so catastrophically into Iraq under false pretenses and why so few establishment figures dared to speak out, the historians might read the sorry pattern of the Post’s editorial-page attacks on those who did dissent.
Washington Post Editorial Page Editor Fred Hiatt, who fell for virtually every Iraq War deception that the Bush administration could dream up, is back assaulting former Ambassador Wilson, again, in a Sept. 1 editorial, falsely accusing Wilson of lying and concluding that “it’s unfortunate that so many people took him seriously.”
In the view of the Post’s editorial page, Wilson’s chief offense appears to be that he went public in July 2003 with a firsthand account of a fact-finding trip that he took in early 2002. At the CIA’s request, he traveled to the African nation of Niger to check out a report alleging that Iraq was trying to obtain yellowcake uranium, presumably for a nuclear bomb.
The yellowcake allegations had attracted Vice President Dick Cheney’s attention because, in 2002, the Bush administration was trying to build a case to justify invading Iraq. But Wilson found no hard evidence to support the suspicion that Iraq had tried to obtain any uranium ore – and U.S. intelligence subsequently agreed that the claim was a fraud.
A recent USA Today/Gallup poll finds that Americans have a more negative than positive opinion of presidential adviser Karl Rove, a pattern that has been consistent over the last year.
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Rove should have resigned. At the very least his security clearance should have been taken away under the disclosure rules that government employees sign.
But, the wingnuts still defend him and smear Wilson for something that Rove did.
Nice journal on Jim Webb ... gaining fast on Allen:
500 People Cheer Webb at Labor Day Kickoff Rally
The IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency) have inspectors in Niger, (not Nigeria, you don't know what you're talking about, as usual) at the uranium mines at all times. They keep track of every gram of uranium yellow cake sold. Nobody can get any without them knowing about it, and they (the IAEA) said Saddam didn't try to buy any. Go back to your freeper conspiracy web-site, fool.
Here's the original article from the WaPo about this alleged Niger Uranium LIE:
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In fact, the alleged effort to buy uranium was not among the estimate's key judgments, which were identified by a headline and bold type and set out in bullet form in the first five pages of the 96-page document.
Unknown to the reporters, the uranium claim lay deeper inside the estimate, where it said a fresh supply of uranium ore would "shorten the time Baghdad needs to produce nuclear weapons." But it also said U.S. intelligence did not know the status of Iraq's procurement efforts, "cannot confirm" any success and had "inconclusive" evidence about Iraq's domestic uranium operations.
Iraq's alleged uranium shopping had been strongly disputed in the intelligence community from the start. In a closed Senate hearing in late September 2002, shortly before the October NIE was completed, then-director of central intelligence George J. Tenet and his top weapons analyst, Robert Walpole, expressed strong doubts about the uranium story, which had recently been unveiled publicly by the British government. The State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research, likewise, called the claim "highly dubious." For those reasons, the uranium story was relegated to a brief inside passage in the October estimate.
A 'Concerted Effort' to Discredit Bush Critic...
AND, HERE is where the "talking points" being used on this blog today came from.
(")Repeat after me: Wilson reported back to the CIA, and the report based on his debrief very much indicated that Iraq had sought uranium from Niger....(")
Mainly because a former Nigerian prime minister believed that was Iraq's aim when it inquired about expanded "commercial" relations. Opinions vary, but no one can truthfully state Wilson found nothing to verify the claim.
Notice THE SAME wording, and the misuse of "Nigerian"?
PostWatch is yet ANOTHER right wing smear screed with ZERO journalistic credentials.
But, is it surprising that it is being used (without attribution) to shore up a talking point as fact?
The IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency) have inspectors in Niger, (not Nigeria, you don't know what you're talking about, as usual) at the uranium mines at all times. They keep track of every gram of uranium yellow cake sold. Nobody can get any without them knowing about it, and they (the IAEA) said Saddam didn't try to buy any. Go back to your freeper conspiracy web-site, fool.
Posted by Domingo on September 2, 2006 at 04:57 PM
Oh, the United Nations is in charge, I didn't know that. Well then there is nothing to worry about then. Everyone knows the UN is not corruptable. And Saddam never asked the UN if he could buy some Uranium - well, there is your proof - case closed. So why did Joe Wilson tell the CIA that Saddam did try to buy some?
Go steal some more hubcaps.
Linkage has political benefits for the president. Polls show Americans still rate his handling of the broader war on terror higher than his handling of anything else -- Iraq, the economy, foreign policy and his job in general. Even so, Republicans' edge on the question of dealing with terrorism has been slipping for four years, according to Journal/NBC polls -- from a 36-point advantage over Democrats in October 2002, to 18 points in December 2004, to six points in June...
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How can you have confidence in a party that lies all the time? How can you have confidence in a President that spends more time in PR campaigns than working on actual policy? How can you have confidence when Bush ignored a report saying that Bin Laden was determined to strike in the United States? When he says that Bin Laden is no longer important? How can you trust them when they proven that they can't respond to a crisis at home as with hurricane Katrina?
Everyone knows Posted by RalphCrandon
Yep, sounds like a "conspiracy threory" to me. That's all you wing-nuts is good for, ain't it?
But one thing we DO KNOW is the Republicans are all a bunch od lying crooks. That's a given.
From barroom joke to federal warrants
The Corrupt Bastards Club started as a barroom joke last spring among Alaska legislators whose names were linked to large campaign contributions from oil field services company VECO Corp.
“Somebody walked up and said, ‘You corrupt bastards,’ and that name stuck,” said House Finance Co-Chairman Mike Chenault, R-Nikiski.
*Federal agents swarmed legislative offices around the state Thursday, executing search warrants in a coordinated series of raids that appeared to target the longstanding relationship between the oil-field service company Veco and leading lawmakers.
*The Offices of Senate President Ben Stevens (son of Ted 'Tubes' Stevens) and Senate Rules Committee Chairman John Cowdery where searched, as well asRep. Vic Kohring, R-Wasilla, the chairman of the House Special Committee on Oil & Gas. And Reps. Pete Kott of Eagle River and Bruce Weyhrauch of Juneau, and Sen. Donny Olson of Nome. Kott, a former House speaker, and Weyhrauch are Republicans. Olson is the only Democrat in the group.
*In disclosures he was required to file as a legislator, Stevens said he was paid $243,000 over the last five years as a "consultant" to Veco. Whenever he was asked to describe what he did for the money, Stevens refused to answer. The company also refused to say.
*Warrants were executed in Girdwood, where Ted Stevens has a home and offices.
*Agents left Stevens' Capitol office Thursday evening with 12 boxes of documents labeled "Evidence" and loaded them into a vehicle waiting them outside.
*In 1985 just a few years after the company had emerged from bankruptcy and boosted its political involvement, Veco was fined more than $72,000 for a scheme that funneled secret donations to a select slate of candidates through an employee payroll deduction plan
*One of VECO President Pete Leathard's sons, Scott, is on the Ted Steven's Staff.
Anchorage Daily News
How can you have confidence when Bush ignored a report saying that Bin Laden was determined to strike in the United States? When he says that Bin Laden is no longer important? How can you trust them when they proven that they can't respond to a crisis at home as with hurricane Katrina?
Posted by rjsnj on September 2, 2006 at 05:09 PM
That Bin Laden was determined to strike the USA was not exactly a revalation. I knew that at the time.
Katrina would not have been such a crisis if a) they had not built homes on ground that is 12 to 20 feet below sea level. b) if those morons had left town when they were told to c) if they had had a competent mayor and governor.
Oh, the United Nations is in charge, I didn't know that. Well then there is nothing to worry about then. Everyone knows the UN is not corruptable.
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What rubbish from this troll. The IAEA is an agency that has been charged with keeping track of nuclear proliferation.
American inlelligence concluded that Saddam was NOT trying to buy yellow cake from Niger. Bush subsequently claimed that he "accidentally" put a false claim in his SOTU speech ... Steven Hadley, a neocon, supposedly screwed up. Yeah right!
British intelligence said that the claim was false. Then there is a matter of forged documents ...
This was a blatant lie by the Bush administration. Wilson told the truth. Cheney went nuts and came up with a scheme to out Wilson's wife. Rove and Libby carried out the scheme.
Wilson lied, that is a fact. If you would read other than leftwing nutball blogs you would know these things.
Katrina would not have been such a crisis if a) they had not built homes on ground that is 12 to 20 feet below sea level. b) if those morons had left town when they were told to c) if they had had a competent mayor and governor.
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I see you have your Rethuglican talking points out.
1) Many cities are below sea level, so what! A large segment of the city is well above sea level - that is the original part of New Orleans. As with most cities, it grew larger into the surrounding suburbs.
2) Many people did leave. Some could not leave for various reasons - no money, poor health, old age, etc...
3) The mayor and governor aren't perfect. They did what they could. Bush didn't do anything for over a week.
This was the worst response to a national crisis anyone has ever seen. Keep making excuses trolly ... no one buys it ewxcept the right wing cool aid dsrinkers like you.
Katrina would not have been such a crisis if a) they had not built homes on ground that is 12 to 20 feet below sea level.
The "Sea" did not flood New Orleans, fool. The Federal (man-made) Canal did. Again you got you head so far up your b*tt you don't know what you're talking about. I've never seen anybody as ingnorant as you.
Yep, sounds like a "conspiracy threory" to me. That's all you wing-nuts is good for, ain't it?
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This is the same idiot sally*sally isn't it? Why are we bothering discussing anything with it?
A series of polls taken over the last few weeks of August show that support for the war in Iraq among Americans is at an all-time low. Almost two-thirds of Americans in each of three major polls say that they oppose the war, the highest totals since pollsters starting asking Americans the question three years ago. Many of the polls were conducted in advance of the fifth anniversary of the September 11, 2001 attacks on Washington and New York.
A new Associated Press/Ipsos poll that surveyed the country, and more specifically residents of Washington and New York, shows that many feel the cost in blood and money in Iraq may already be too high and that Osama bin Laden will never be found. The poll also showed that 60 percent of Americans believe that the war in Iraq has increased the chances of a terrorist attack in the US.
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I guess Dumbya's 20 million dollar PR campaign isn't working too well.
The "Sea" did not flood New Orleans, fool. The Federal (man-made) Canal did. Again you got you head so far up your b*tt you don't know what you're talking about. I've never seen anybody as ingnorant as you.
Posted by Domingo on September 2, 2006 at 05:24 PM
Oh really, there was enough water in that canal to flood New Orleans? Are you sure the sea was not involved at all?
The New Orleans Levy system was designed to withstand the storm surge associated with a category 3 hurricane. Katrina was a category 3 when it hit land. It had been a cat. 5. When it hit land it was still pushing a cat. 5 storm surge. The storm surge over flowed the levy eventually breaching it in a couple places.
dumbass!
The "Sea" did not flood New Orleans, fool. The Federal (man-made) Canal did.
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The levee just wasn't built to withstand even a category 1 hurricane. The Army Corps of engineers did warn the government that this could happen. What was Bush's response? He reduced spending on a project to reinforce the levee.
By the way, the levee was NOT topped. The water got under it and lifted it up. All that secures the levee is weight from sandbags. What's being built right now is no better than it was before. The reason is that the Republican Congress will not approve sufficient money to secure the levee so that supports are driven into the canal's bed.
When do you think the Liar-In Chief will ever break down and call it the Civil War that it is?????
Bush: Iraq Has Not Fallen Into Civil War
The Associated Press
Washington - A day after a Pentagon report described spreading sectarian violence and increasingly complex security problems in Iraq, President Bush painted a rosier picture. "Our commanders and diplomats on the ground believe that Iraq has not descended into a civil war," Bush said Saturday in his weekly radio address. "They report that only a small number of Iraqis are engaged in sectarian violence, while the overwhelming majority want peace and a normal life in a unified country."
The president acknowledged "a bloody campaign of sectarian violence" and the "difficult and dangerous" work of trying to end it.
On Friday, the Pentagon reported that death squads increasingly targeting mainly Iraqi civilians heighten the risk of civil war. The report, the latest in a series required by Congress, also said the Sunni-led insurgency "remains potent and viable."
Oh really, there was enough water in that canal to flood New Orleans? Are you sure the sea was not involved at all?
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The sea didn't flood New Orleans. The water pressure from the storm surge pushed the water in the canal under the levee. When that happened it broke in three places.
The chief engoneer from the army corps was interviewed recently. The levees were not made to withstand more than a category 1. It's highly optimistic to expect them to withstand a category 3. This was no secret. It's simply a lie to say that no one thought this could happen.
notice that sally never connects to any source for his claims. its like every day is anything you say day at the disney dude ranch where sally lives. the rest of us give links, copy parts of documents etc. but sally just shoots off his mouth and figures we will buy it cause he is such a bright guy....hahaha
anyhow off to try out a new mexican restuarant in town. hope its run by undocumented aliens....who-ha!
New Orleans and San Francisco have long been on the list of disasters waiting to happen. I suppose when the big earthquake levels San Francisco that is going to be George Bush's fault too.
New Orleans and San Francisco have long been on the list of disasters waiting to happen. I suppose when the big earthquake levels San Francisco that is going to be George Bush's fault too.
Additional point:
For years, engineers have warned that the wet lands were dangerously eroded. The reason that matters is that the barrier islands disrupts the storm surge and that in turn alleviates water pressure on the canal.
I looked at the table of contents of The 9-11 Report and can't see ANY mention of yellow cake from Niger.
I thought the 9-11 commission was investigating 9-11, and not the lies in the run up to Georgie's war. In fact now that Bush has finally admitted that Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11, why would the Commission even be dealing with that?
Here's the Relevent Google Page, and the only "sources" that claim that Wilson testified to the 9-11 Commission are freeper-like wingnut sites.
And here IS THE LIST OF WITNESSES for the 9-11 hearings listed by date of testimony. (Scroll down to page 12).
I don't see Wilson's name ANYWHERE in that report.
Hmmmm.....
Could this mean that the right wing smear merchants are LIARS?
wldj, that begs the question, do we leave this mess or do we stay and try to help. Posted by brian111 on September 1, 2006 at 03:38 PM
Now pay close attention to this folks. These Right Wingers say they want to "stay and 'help' in Iraq", but in places in this country, like New Orleans, they tell the people to go to hell, it's "not the government's job to get involved". See what kind of sickos these people are? They want to spend all our country's money "helping" people around the world, but if you're an American you can got to hell because they don't care about you. And these are the ones who say they're more "pro-American" than we are? What a frigg'in joke.
I suppose when the big earthquake levels San Francisco that is going to be George Bush's fault too.
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You trolls can't get it in your head that it's the sluggish response to the disaster that bothers people. We all know that disasters can occur. What we expect is that the government plans to mitigate them and respond promptly when they occur.
I hope I didn't use too many big words for you.
BBL
I don't like to post links here because then you just attack the link so it is pointless to do so. Especially when you expect me to post links to known facts such as "Joe Wilson is a liar".
If I post a link debunking global warming, the link is discredited because their receptionist voted for Bush. And never mind that all your links supporting global warming are from leftwing whack jobs.
Bush said Saturday in his weekly radio address. "They report that only a small number of Iraqis are engaged in sectarian violence, while the overwhelming majority want peace and a normal life in a unified country." Posted by PamB
Well, if it's "only a small number", then they would never have enough power to take over the country then. Yay! Now we can finally come home.
I suppose when the big earthquake levels San Francisco that is going to be George Bush's fault too.
No jerk, the earthquake won't be his fault. But letting people sit there and die while he smirks will be. I'm sorry you're "too stupid" to get that.
so sally doesn't post links because its sources are often a bit....on the edge of reality...so sally makes statements here that are unsubstantiated and expects us to accept them? no not really. sally just does this stuff to annoy and make sure that it does in fact exist or some such existential crap. its arguments are not valued, it won't ( or can't ) support them but it goes on and on....i think we can find a description of this behavior in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders....but no time right now, chips and salsa await!
gregg,
like any other mentally ill person, he is to be pitied, not laughed at.
Imagine spending your days and nights having to get your only human attention from a blog of strangers, by trying to make them angry!
sad,
No jerk, the earthquake won't be his fault. But letting people sit there and die while he smirks will be. I'm sorry you're "too stupid" to get that.
Posted by Domingo on September 2, 2006 at 05:56 PM
Unlike an Earthquake, an impending hurricane gives you plenty of time to get out of town. The smart ones left and the dumb ones stayed,
Hurricanes are natures way of weeding out the stupid.
Imagine spending your days and nights having to get your only human attention from a blog of strangers, by trying to make them angry! sad
I keep wondering what kind of a childhood he had. It must have been pretty bad.
Oh really, there was enough water in that canal to flood New Orleans? Are you sure the sea was not involved at all?
Hurricanes are natures way of weeding out the stupid.
You're so stupid, you thought the "Sea" flooded New Orleans. I wish you lived where they had hurricanes so you could be "weeded out".
You know, I'll bet that's just what these Right Wing kooks think Bush jr is doing everytime he lets people die. They think Bush is just "weeding out the stupid". That's why they look upon him as their hero because they're in love with death.
You're so stupid, you thought the "Sea" flooded New Orleans. I wish you lived where they had hurricanes so you could be "weeded out".
Posted by Domingo on September 2, 2006 at 06:16 PM
Well dopey, let me explain it to you, Katrina was pushing a 25 foot storm surge. That means that the water was 25 feet higher than normal. That water was forced into Lake Ponchatrain where the levy was over flowed and eventually breached.
We have a brand new mega WalMart in the area and me and my daughter are going to go spend vast sums of money there now. So bye!
In any event Lake Ponchatrain is salt water and thus part of the sea. Of course the sea flooded New Orleans.
Hurricanes are natures way of weeding out the stupid.Posted by RalphCrandon on September 2, 2006 at 06:10 PM
Now that's not true, or there would be a huge path through the boondocks of MN!!!
And WalMart is just your type of shopping Store!
Don't spend too much on your shoes ! hahahaha
Hurricanes are natures way of weeding out the stupid.
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Oh I wish there were hurricanes for trolls!
I should cut & paste these comments and use them on canvasses. I'll show voters these fine examples of Republican "thinking"!
We have a brand new mega WalMart in the area and me and my daughter are going to go spend vast sums of money there now. So bye!
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Check if they have any brains on sale! Good riddance.
In any event Lake Ponchatrain is salt water and thus part of the sea.
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A lake is part of sea ... duh, well shiver me timbers ...
Lake Pontchartrain (local English pronunciation [leɪk ˈpʰɑntʃətʰɹeɪn]) (French: Lac Pontchartrain, pronounced [lak pɔ̃ʃaʀtʀɛ̃]) is a brackish lake located in southeastern Louisiana. It is the second largest salt-water lake in the United States, after the Great Salt Lake in Utah, and the largest lake in Louisiana. It covers an area of 630 square miles (1630 square km) with an average depth of 12 to 14 feet (about 4 meters). Some shipping channels are kept deeper through dredging. It is roughly oval in shape, about 40 miles (64 km) wide and 24 miles (39 km) from south to north.
Yes, it is salt water ... so what! The levees simply were not strong enough to withstand a hurricane over a category 1. It's a documented fact that the levees were not topped; they were breached from beneath. So, what do the wingnuts conclude from this? Dissembling, that all it is.
You know, I'll bet that's just what these Right Wing kooks think Bush jr is doing everytime he lets people die. They think Bush is just "weeding out the stupid".
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Wait a minute ... how did Bush slip by?
If I post a link debunking global warming, the link is discredited because their receptionist voted for Bush. And never mind that all your links supporting global warming are from leftwing whack jobs.
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Like the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, EWashington Post, Associated Press (well, they need to be fact checked now and then). In the case of global warming from the National Ocean and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), Academy of Science, National Science Foundation ...
yeah all those left leaning blogs.
It is only "partly" salt water at it's outlet. It is fresh water at it's inlet.
Salinity varies from negligible at the northern cusp west of Mandeville up to nearly half seawater level at the eastern bulge past Interstate 10 (or I-10).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Pontchartrain
The walls of the Industrial Canal were breached by storm surge via the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet, (not Lake Pontchartrain) while the 17th Street Canal and London Avenue Canal experienced catastrophic breaches, even though water levels never topped their flood walls. Louisiana State University experts presented evidence that some of these structures might have had design flaws or faulty construction.
Louisiana State University experts presented evidence that some of these structures might have had design flaws or faulty construction.
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The Army Corps of Engineers concurs with that conclusion. The design flaw is how the levees are anchored ... it's actually a flimsy system of weights. A strong surge of water disrupted the anchoring resulting in structural failure.
So is this the latest wingnut defense - that the levees were topped because it's part of the sea?
That is truly sad. How is it that our fellow citizens are so willing to accept such rubbish? It actually transcends politics. Science is fact based; it's not a matter of politics or religion.
Hi Everyone,
I have posted my Summer Political Art on line.
Yes, I Know, I have a very twisted mind - but it's fun.
I have posted my Summer Political Art on line.
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Nice work. Love that first one. I forgot all about that whacky Iraqi minister. His inability to acknowledge the truth reminds me of the right wingnuts.
Labor Day Greetings to you all
WorklifeWizard is interesting. Check it out to see if you're getting paid what you're worth. Lots of cool information for workers.
This country was built by working families, not by armies.
Nice work. Love that first one. I forgot all about that whacky Iraqi minister. His inability to acknowledge the truth reminds me of the right wingnuts.
Posted by rjsnj on September 2, 2006 at 07:17 PM
Yes! I thought it perfect for the Civil War in Iraq Question. I should have done a double image and put Bush's face on the second one.
17 year old Arkansas Missing Girl -- they have found a body :( The body not officially identified, but it is in the search area.
This country was built by working families, not by armies.
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fade, I agree completely. It was built by workers and not the robber barons - be they of the Gilded Age or of the modern Gilded Age.
I just heard a real nice comment on the radio that everyone should remember that the Labor Day holiday was created by the unions. These are hard working people who fought for social justice and in some cases got bloodied (literally) while doing so.
Reagan, whose Presidental election team made a deal with Iran not to release hostages until after the election, began the destruction of Labor Unions. The far-reich still sings his praises.
Sorry, sports fans. I meant to post this link
on those big baseball heavy hitters, and what they get paid per hit. And per hour, per minute...interesting.
American values.
Check out Jobs with Justice:
Our NJ 4th district candidate Carol Gay is a contributor to this organization.
MAJOR ROVE EXCLUSIVE BREAKING
TONIGHT... DEVELOPING....
prayer circle, anyone?
Sorry, sports fans. I meant to post this link
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It's a sad commentary on our society that entertainers get paid so much money. I have nothing against sports but I never thought I would see the day where atletes get paided such ridiculous amounts of money. It's all big business now - TV has made these teams very wealthy.
After Hamas won a majority in parliamentary elections in January, the U.S. and Europe halted direct aid to the Palestinian Authority. In addition, Israel has withheld about $50 million monthly in customs and tax revenues that it collects on behalf of the Palestinian government under a long-standing economic agreement.
This summer, Israel stepped up the pressure, arresting more than two dozen Hamas lawmakers and Cabinet members in the West Bank, including parliament Speaker Aziz Dweik, Deputy Prime Minister Nasser Shaer and Finance Minister Omar Abdel Razek.
RAMALLAH, West Bank — Abdelmohsen Radwan has gone unpaid for the last six months of work. His list of who is at fault grows with each new household debt, and Palestinian officials rank high.
Radwan, a legal advisor in the Palestinian Authority Economy Ministry, blames the international community for cutting aid. He holds the Hamas-led government responsible for not paying tens of thousands of civil servants since February. And he is disappointed in President Mahmoud Abbas for not figuring a way out of the mess.
The growing public disenchantment over unpaid wages has triggered threats of a walkout by most of the 165,000 public employees.
Israeli and U.S. officials have said they hoped the cutoff of money and other moves would eventually cause the Palestinian public to turn against Hamas.
LA Times
From Jobs with Justice:
Unfortunately, this Labor Day workers have little to celebrate. Wages and salaries now make up the smallest share of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) since the government began tracking it in 1947. Meanwhile, corporate profits have risen to their highest share of the GDP since the 1960s. The median hourly wage has declined by 2 percent since 2003, even though productivity has been rising, so workers are doing more work and making less money. The buying power of the minimum wage is at a 50-year low. [1] A record 46.6 million people in the U.S. have no health insurance, and a majority of the uninsured are working people.[2] A recent poll found that "The public thinks that workers were better off a generation ago than they are now on every key dimension of worker life — be it wages, benefits, retirement plans, on-the-job stress, the loyalty they are shown by employers or the need to regularly upgrade work skills."[3]
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I am always amazed that Republicans can't understand why people think the economy is bad. When will face the truth that it's not perception but rather is the reality that most people are experiencing. Trickle down economics have once again failed ... they failed for Reagan, they failed for Bush Sr. and now they have failed for Junior.
Can anyone say 'flip-flop'? Ooops, no, I mean "LIAR"!
"Sanger notes that "[n]o one has been more willing to set out the new domino theory than the administration’s chief hawk, Mr. Cheney."
"In private meetings with foreign visitors and members of Congress, according to several participants in those sessions, he raises the prospect that if America fails in Iraq, Saudi Arabia will be the next target and then maybe Pakistan — which, he notes, has a good-sized nuclear arsenal," Sanger writes. "No one would benefit more from an American withdrawal, he continues, than the Iranians."
That represents "a major rhetorical reversal" for the vice president, the 24-year Times veteran reports.
"In the prelude to the war, he argued that ousting Saddam Hussein would usher in a new era of stability in the Middle East," Sanger writes.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Cheneys_major_rhetorical_reversal_on_Iraq_0902.html
Tuesday will allege that Karl Rove's step-father, Louis Rove, divorced his mother and lived the rest of his adult life as an openly gay man ---
Rove's mother commited suicide...
This might be one of those dysfunctional families you read about.
"In the prelude to the war, he argued that ousting Saddam Hussein would usher in a new era of stability in the Middle East," Sanger writes. I am sure pleased the Middle East is stable.
Israeli and U.S. officials have said they hoped the cutoff of money and other moves would eventually cause the Palestinian public to turn against Hamas.
The Bush crime gangsters pulled the same stunt on California. They figured if they cut of California's electicity they could get the California public to turn against the Democratic govenor. It worked.
if America fails in Iraq, Saudi Arabia will be the next target and then maybe Pakistan
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Target of what? Terrorists attacks? They already had Al Qaeda attacks in Saudi.
When are these Rethuglicans going to get that no one buys their World War III / IV garbage. There simply is not a reasonable analogy to a Soviet Union with 1000's of nuclear weapons pointed at us. There certainly is no analogy to a Nazi Germany / Imperial Japan invading countries.
Yes indeed, we don't deny there are terrorists nor do we deny they are dangerous. But, we need to maintain the proper perspective. We need to use the right tactics to defend against attacks.
Otherwise, we give a green light to the neoconservative dominionists, such as Cheney amd Gingrich, to drag us into endless wars that have nothing to do with terrorism.
evening {{fade}}
that Rove story isn't about the new book out on him, andthe story that his step father was gay, is it? After he squirmed out of the charges for the Leak on Valerie Plame, I know that they will threaten, blackmail, intimidate anyone who finds anything on them.
"In the prelude to the war, ousting Saddam Hussein would usher in a new era of stability in the Middle East" ~ Dick Cheney
He also said that it would lead to peace between the Palestinians and the Israelis. Boy that jerk is more stupid that Sally. Another one I like is when William Kristal said a couple of months after the Iraq war started that "it is a myth that the Sunnis and the Shias will fight each other". Everyone of these fools is dumber than dirt.
Hi Folks, I`m back from work,and I haven`t had a chance to say much.One thing I have noticed is that dubya is back in New Orleans,and talking to people like they shouldn`t notice that he hasn`t done anything much in a year!So what`s he going to do?Oh Yes!Another friggin speech!Where`s he flying to Next for another speech,then off for another speech!News flash Bush is now on the offensive.This must be true because I have found him offensive since he`s been in office.
New York Times columnist Frank Rich slams "Donald Rumsfeld's dance with the Nazis" in a recent speech as particularly "brazen" coming from a Defense Secretary who was once photographed shaking hands with Saddam Hussein.
"Last week the man who gave us 'stuff happens' and 'you go to war with the Army you have' outdid himself," Rich writes. "In an instantly infamous address to the American Legion, he likened critics of the Iraq debacle to those who 'ridiculed or ignored' the rise of the Nazis in the 1930s and tried to appease Hitler."
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/NYT_Frank_Rich_on_Donald_Rumsfelds_0902.html
Pam,
Did you see this?
Oft-mocked New Republic “culture critic” Lee Siegel, who coined the term “blogo-fascism” to describe online efforts against Joe Lieberman, has been suspended from TNR for writing numerous self-glorifying comments under the pseudonym “Sprezzatura.” Examples here and here. 3:34 pm | Comment (20)
The Latest Al-Cadia tape tells American's they need to convert to Islam, or suffer the consequences.
President Bush immediately dispatched Carl Rove to recruit the new religious right members.
Wrecking Patrick Fitzgerald
by Larry Johnson
Sat Sep 2nd, 2006 at 04:52:53 PM EST
Looks like Patrick Fitzgerald, the U.S. attorney charged with investigating the leak of that identified Valerie Plame Wilson as a CIA officer, has hit a real nerve and is on the verge of dropping a new legal bomb on the Bush Administration. How else to explain the sudden surge of criticism directed against Mr. Fitzgerald? A story in today's New York Times by David Johnston is the latest salvo in what looks like a coordinated assault on the steely-eyed prosecutor. Plameologist EmptyWheel has a terrific post at The Next Hurrah dissecting Johnston's shoddy attempt at journalism. His piece, at best, is speculative analysis. Unfortunately, it is uninformed analysis.
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2006/9/2/165253/5329
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Ah, so this is what got the wingnuts, i.e. sally*sally / whatever, so worked up! The Thugs are now attacking Fitzgerald.
I won't speculate on where this is going. I will stand by my statement that in a honorable WH there already would have been multiple resignations over this outrage. Government employees sign a non-disclosure agreement. If they break it, they are fired - plain and simple. So, why are the Bushitas above the law? Quite simply, Bush has no respect for the law. He is an outlaw President.
Azom the American, 28 year old, Southern California - he grew up on a goat ranch.
That comes in handy if you are in the Afgan hills and have to live off goat meat.
President Bush immediately dispatched Carl Rove to recruit the new religious right members.
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Tee, Hee, Hee ... send them Pat Robertson. They will really like that dude.
Do it in the name of heaven, you can justify it in the end...
Posted by rjsnj on September 2, 2006 at 07:31 PM
rj, nice links. JwJ organized Washington University employees, via students and grassroots organization. Excellent group, because they train their members and are non-violent in confrontational situations.
Phone banking anyone?
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Posted by rjsnj on September 2, 2006 at 08:01 PM
are you putting two and two together?
somebody say, AMEN!!
Posted by Roxie on September 2, 2006 at 08:03 PM
Goat meat? Poppy productionin Afghanistan is booming...6,100 tons --up 60%...
yeah, all this hegemony was such a great idea.
This must be true because I have found him offensive since he`s been in office.
Posted by virgo on September 2, 2006 at 07:53 PM
boo wah! good one, virgo.
are you putting two and two together?
somebody say, AMEN!!
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fade,
I'll keep hoping that Fitzgerald will bag a big one but I won't speculate ... The wingnuts do appear to be agitated but they are so goofy that it could be almost anything.
Goat meat? Poppy productionin Afghanistan is booming...6,100 tons --up 60%...
yeah, all this hegemony was such a great idea.
Posted by fade2bluz on September 2, 2006 at 08:15 PM
I see we are winning the war on drugs in Afghanistan as successfully as we are at home.
Deputy Justice Minister Busho Ibrahim told The Associated Press last week that the detainees at Abu Ghraib had been moved to a new $60 million detention facility at Camp Cropper, near Baghdad International Airport.
Did y'all hear about this? Camp Cropper?
Top 10 Offensive to Democratic Party Members Things:
10. Reversal of Civil Rights
9. The No Credit Card Company Left Behind Bankrputcy Law.
8. The failure to fund No Child Left Behind
7. 75 Trillion Dollars Debt
6. The Decline in the living wage
5. Failure to win the Afghanistan War
4. The economy stupid
3. False fear mongering
2. Failed war on terror
1. Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq
fade, no I hadn't seen that one. Great that he was fired. serves the jerk right.
this other article on that page is an eye opener too.
National Review Editor Spins Poll Numbers To Falsely Claim Americans Oppose Troop Withdrawal
I KNEW there had to be something wrong when I saw that people opposed this invasion, thought it had nothing to do with 9/11 and terrorists, yet would not want out boys out ASAP!
So MANY liars helping this Republican administration!
rjs,
Isn't it amazing, that the Right wing nuts are up in arms about Fitzgerald, yet they let Ken Starr spin lie after lie and waste millions of dollars on trying to pin something on Clinton.
Never did though, except for the Lewinsky scandal.
Such a group of hypocrits!
As of August 2005 a new compound was being constructed at Cropper. It will consist of four pads, each approximately 400 by 400 feet and will increase detainee capacity from 163 to 2,000. The site was a landfill prior to Operation Iraqi Freedom III.
and
In June 2004, The Pentagon confirmed a report in the New York Times that CIA chief George Tenet —who stepped down from the post in July 2004— was allowed by U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld to have an Iraqi prisoner secretly detained at Camp Cropper since November, preventing the International Committee of the Red Cross from monitoring his treatment, in violation of the Geneva Convention. Rumsfeld later told reporters that the prisoner was treated humanely.
In 2004, the Red Cross was given regular and open access to the facility and the detainees.
The facility was scheduled to be shut down after the June 2004 handover date of Iraqi sovereignty, but as of May 2005 the Camp is still being used.
Abuse?
Any other Mike Malloy fans in the house? My heart is broken (again, and again) now that he's been screwed by Air America. I subscribed to premium just to download his podcasts. They can have the rest of it.
Franken is as slow as molasses. Springer?
I swear to you the DLC has bought them out and taken over. Someone please write a novel/movie screenplay about the DLC takeover of our party and our "liberal" media. Plutocrats.
National Review Editor Spins Poll Numbers To Falsely Claim Americans Oppose Troop Withdrawal
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The worst part of this is that Rich Lowry has been lying to young people. He is a frequent visitor to colleges. People like him are poisoning young people's minds.
New book alleges Rove held secret Abramoff meetings;
Stepfather's gay life explored
Larisa Alexandrovna
Published: Saturday September 2, 2006
[Larissa used to blog here, remember Pam?]
Isn't it amazing, that the Right wing nuts are up in arms about Fitzgerald, yet they let Ken Starr spin lie after lie and waste millions of dollars on trying to pin something on Clinton.
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pam,
It is sorta weird that are up in arms about Fitzgerald. It has the feel of a premptive attack on Fitzgerald to shut down his investigation. I think that's why some of us are suspicious that Fitzgerald may be on to something new. I would have thought that the Republicans would want to low key the Plame case. They even managed to postpone the Libby trial until after November. I was surprised to hear the wingnuts bring up Plame today ... it's not something I gave much thought to lately.
But with them, who knows ... they may be worked up that Wilson / Plame have sued Cheney, Rove, etc... in a civil suit.
There is an old adage that says high profile political indictment don't happen sixty days before an election.
This is the week, folks...so it could be a preemptive paranoid move on their part. Or.....
Any other Mike Malloy fans in the house?
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Yep, I really like listening to Malloy. Franken is okay. I am not wild about Springer. I do like Laura Flanders ... give her a listen.
Fox Analyst: New Tape Shows Al Qaeda Using ‘All of the Antiwar Arguments’ And ‘Turning Them Back Against Us’
Within minutes, Fox News brought on right-wing author Richard Miniter to provide expert analysis of the video. Miniter said that “what’s striking” about Zawahiri “is that he’s using a lot of the same rhetoric as the antiwar crowd. He refers to President Bush as a liar and a defeated president…They call him a failure, an incompetent.”
Also in the tape, Zawahiri says “Bush was foolish to turn down the truce offered by Osama bin Laden as an honorable way out.” Miniter said this claim and others is what “Michael Moore and John Kerry were saying a year ago,” and now al Qaeda is “turning them back against us.”
What is the actors name that played the part of the American Al Qaeda? It's way too convenient that this Fox analyst would point out that "he’s using a lot of the same rhetoric as the antiwar crowd."
Is that the same Larissa, fade? I could never stomach writing a book about the slug, Rove.
rjs,
Thank goodness college kids seem to be smart enough to tell the difference between Spin, Rhetoric, distortions, etc and the truth.
I get a kick out of those trolls who have come in recently saying they are looking for Democrats to apologize to Bush, Cheney and Rove because Armitage is the Leaker! HOW WOULD WE ever be able to tell if this is true or not. They have done nothing but lie for 6 years. And it would not be the first time they threw somebody under the blade. Look at Libby taking the blame for Cheney !
well, heading out, peeps. Keep up the good work !
Gadahn states that if leaders like President Bush and Prime Minister Blair "really had your protection in mind, they would have heeded the mujahedeen's demands for justice and withdrawn from the Muslim world. If they really cared about protecting you, they would have responded positively to Sheik Osama's proposal for a truce with the European nations, instead of arrogantly dismissing his initiative with the false claim that quote, 'We don't negotiate with terrorists, and that in any case, al Qaeda has no demands to meet.'" ... and from the same source: It is clear from what we have just explained that you, the people of the West, now have two mutually exclusive paths from which to choose. Rid yourself of your current leaders and governments and their anti-Islam, anti-Muslim policies or suffer the consequences.
Terrorist Taped Message
I get a kick out of those trolls who have come in recently saying they are looking for Democrats to apologize to Bush, Cheney and Rove because Armitage is the Leaker!
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Yeah, it is sorta whacky. Armitage's name has been kicked around for a long time as being potentially involved ... so what!
This journal debunks the NYT story pretty well:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/9/2/115051/9443
I started thinking - why would such a story come out now? The Republicans got what they wanted - namely, to get the Plame case out of the media so why put the focus back on the case? Maybe I am being too suspicious but this has the feel of an attempt to shutdown Fitzgerald's investigation. I began to wonder if he getting closer to a truth that the Pugs don't want to come out ... such as Cheney is real architect of this scheme.
Well, at any rate, I will certainly never apologize. Rove, Libby and Cheney should resign for mis-handling their security clearances. If was a non-poltical government worker that leaked secure information like they did, you know they would have been fired.
"all the world as a battlefield open in front of us."
"It is a jihad for God's sake and will last until [our] religion prevails. We will attack everywhere."
More of the message
Pam,
Yes, it's the same Larissa. She so rawks!! I heard her on Mike Malloy's last show on Air America.
rj,
i just shut her off...i can take her only in small doses. no humor.
malloy was shut out for being too radical, i'm sure. we'll find a way to keep him going, but my days of supporting AAR are through.
Evening All,
Sure hope all are safe and sound and Greg's roof hasn't blown off with all this wind and rain. Howling up a storm.
Was I missed?
This email is from Joe Wilson concerning that crazy article about Armitage:
You may have seen this morning's editorial in the Post. It manages to recycle pretty much every lie and smear over the past three years in a last ditch effort to divert attention from the facts, and the role the Post itself played both in the march to war and in the leak (see Woodward).
I know many of you are better versed in Plamegate than either Valerie or I and I also know that some of you will be addressing the editorial.
I want to let you know how much Valerie and I continue to be buoyed by your support and your dedication to getting the truth out and holding the administration and its lackeys accountable for the terrible policies they have foisted on our country and on the world. We must keep fighting.
As you think about this, our website (Wilsonsupport.org) has a copy of the letter I sent to the SSCI when its report first came out, challenging some of its conclusions. The LeftCoaster has a terrific study by eriposte on the whole Niger forgery case from beginning to end. Firedoglake and the Next Hurrah both have highly informative analyses of the case by skilled researchers and former prosecutors. I recommend them all as resoruces to jog memories. By this afternoon, I expect that our own team will have an updated set of talking points to distribute for your use as well.
Each of you in one way or another has contributed to the public's (and in many cases our own) understanding of the issues from the beginning. Thank you for continuing to do so.
Joe Wilson
malloy was shut out for being too radical
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Too radical? That's odd, I always thought he spoke the truth. He does have a rather dramatic way of saying it ... that's what makes him more interesting than most pundits.
{{{lizzy}}}
yeah, do you have a note or will you be serving a detention with gregg?
he's been cavorting with trolls and sock puppets
DPD has the "most improved" award for ignoring...
now if Dorsano has the will, he may have the next trophy--which is the other sock
Here is the link to Larry Johnson's article on this ridiculous NYT piece that implies Armitage was The Leaker:
http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2006/09/wrecking_patric.html#comment-21882206
Personally, I doubt we'll ever know the truth because of the lies and spinning from the Bush admin. For sure, Rove, Libby and Armitage fell over each other making sure that reporters knew about Plame's identity. At the very least, they violated their agreement not to disclose secure informaation. For that, their security clearances should be revoked and for a person in their line of work that means they should resign.
Well this little fellow has the right idea Greg after braving the rain.
Here is the link to Larry Johnson's article on this ridiculous NYT piece that implies Armitage was The Leaker:
http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2006/09/wrecking_patric.html#comment-21882206
Personally, I doubt we'll ever know the truth because of the lies and spinning from the Bush admin. For sure, Rove, Libby and Armitage fell over each other making sure that reporters knew about Plame's identity. At the very least, they violated their agreement not to disclose secure informaation. For that, their security clearances should be revoked and for a person in their line of work that means they should resign.
Sorry for the double post ... got some sort of error the first time?
A Liberal Walks Into A Bar...
by georgia10
Sat Sep 02, 2006 at 02:45:25 PM PDT
~snip~
Millions of us wait around for the 247 Democrats in Congress to speak up and stand up. Brilliant diaries are penned about exactly what Democrats should say, and how they should say it. Other diaries rightly rail on "spineless" Dems who shrink from confrontation.
But we must never forget, my friends, that we are also Democrats. And every time we let a wingnut email go unanswered, we are the spineless Dems. Everytime we hesitate to jump in when our family or friends complain about politics, we are the cowards.
We're the front lines of progressivism, a 50-state army composed of millions of articulate, informed, and fundamentally right soldiers of truth. We're armed with facts, that weapon that deals a deadly blow to any Republican propaganda. And yet, in the chambers of our daily lives, I think we don't use them enough.
For example, why is it that my inbox is cluttered with right-wing chain mail but rarely any liberal forwards? And why is it that upon reading yet another email about "staying the course", my tired self is tempted to just click "delete" instead of "reply all"?
Because it's easier to let it slide, of course. It's easier to ignore than instigate. Too often, we are so afraid of getting into political fights that we shy away from having political discussions. But if we don't defend liberalism and our party, who will?
So, Kossacks, let us not shrink from educating the ill-informed, from converting the conned with logic, and from building a new Democratic majority, one voter at a time.
From now until election day and beyond, I want anecdotes. I know you have them. I want to hear about how you debunked economic myths at your Labor Day picnic, how you struck up a conversation with your co-worker about universal health care, and how your managed to get your dittohead brother to grudgingly admit that maybe, just maybe, Republicans have lost the ability to govern.
Whether it's at work or in a bar, in the presence of friends or strangers, let us become the Democrats we urge our elected leaders to be--"political warriors" in every sense of the phrase.
Cheers.
I had to post this as her words have profoundly affected me.
From Juan Cole:
The Washington power elite, like sharks, smells blood in the water. The midterms may well be a political earthquake. If the Dems take the House, investigatory committeess are suddenly going to be subpoenaing documents on the high crimes and misdemeanors of the Bush adminstration. Traitor Rove's and Traitor Libby's outing of Valerie Plame as a CIA agent to the press to punish Joe Wilson for blowing the whistle on the Bush administration's foreknowledge that Iraq had not brought yellowcake uranium from Niger is likely to be item number 1 on the indictment list. The recennt revelation that the first leaker to journalist Bob Novak was Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, in a book by David Corn and Michael Isikoff, is irrelevant to the facts of the case. It is possible for Armitage innocently to banter with Novak about something that Libby and Rove deliberately leaked to other reporters for more sinister reasons. That Rove said that Plame was " fair game, " shows his malice.
Still, the Right (including an editor at the Washington Post) is using the revelation about Armitage to try to get Rove, Libby and Cheney off the hook. It is an illogical argument for the reason just stated.
evenin' all,
haven't read back, hope this isn't a repost...
Voters Everywhere Agree Political System “Badly Broken”
fadey, i'm incensed about mike malloy too, did you know you could get his archives free from white rose society?
Isn't it amazing, that the Right wing nuts are up in arms about Fitzgerald, yet they let Ken Starr spin lie after lie and waste millions of dollars on trying to pin something on Clinton.
Never did though, except for the Lewinsky scandal.
Such a group of hypocrits!
Posted by PamB on September 2, 2006 at 08:35 PM
The difference is that Starr was investigating actual crimes and convicted about 40 actual people including the Governor of Arkansas. He would have convicted more and probably Clinton himself had over 100 witnesses not fled the country.
go read the entire frank rich article donald rumsfeld's dance with the nazis
And WalMart is just your type of shopping Store!
Don't spend too much on your shoes ! hahahaha
Posted by PamB on September 2, 2006 at 06:38 PM
Absolutely - great stuff and great prices. Nice shoes too.
How Much Does It Cost? Fitzgerald v. Starr
Posted by jen on September 2, 2006 at 10:44 PM
How much does it cost per conviction Fitzgerald vs Starr?
It would be nice if the GOP moonbats in northern MN would actually start campaigning for Mark Kennedy (R) who is running for the U.S. Senate.
Mark's trailing Amy in recent polls by almost 6% even though Mark has done his best to distance himself from the current administration and the current GOP controlled congress. Mark's done as much distancing as he can and still call himself a "modern day" Republican.
With the moonbats on Mark's side we could insure a victory for Amy - hands down. So get barkin up there in northern MN and serve our country.
lizzy great pooch pics and the winds are now pretty strong up here too...oh and it just started pouring. anyhow good to see dors is out on bail. see you in the morning.
Hey, Ralph! Just don't start gettin all principled on us like these Republicans in Idaho campaigning for Democrat Larry Grant.
More and more Idaho Republicans are choosing to put principle above partisanship in the critical race for Congress in the Idaho First District.
The last time a bunch of Idaho Republicans decided to support a Democrat, the dude actually won: Governor Cecil Andrus in 1986.
Posted by gregg on September 2, 2006 at 11:54 PM good to see dors is out on bail.
Actually, I bribed a GOP guard. I told him I knew Tom Delay and Bob Ney personnally. But the darn, unionized, liberal police force over here in Minnesota has managed to tracked me down and I can hear the sirens now.
South Asian pilgrims shot in Iraq. Fourteen Pakistani and Indian pilgrims have been ambushed and killed on their way to Iraq's Shia holy city of Karbala, Iraqi officials say. Full story:
Canadian troops have launched a major offensive against the Taliban in an effort to take control of two dangerous districts in southern Afghanistan. A Canadian soldier calls in an airstrike Saturday during a mission to retake the Panjwaii area west of Kandahar from Taliban forces. (Canadian Press) Full story in link below:
http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/09/02/afghanistan.html
Posted by dorsano on September 2, 2006 at 11:41 PM
Kennedy is no Rod Grahams, I hope he wins but in the big picture it doesn't matter much. He is another wishy washy moderate. On the other hand. I would put a yard sign for Rod Grahams, who is running against Oberstar, in front of my place and the same 1 or 2 people would see it every day.
Good evening, everybody. Just passing by to say hello and reading all the links.
One more drop in the polls, and he may yet rebrand this mess War of the Worlds.
Frank Rich might be right on that one. They will call it anything but what it is....a major foreign policy blunder.
I really don't think there is any way for them to rally support for starting another war right now. This past year of one incredible failure after another has sucked the life out of the War on Terror.
Let's see how they spin the 5th anniversary of 9/11. I can't believe they would send Bush down to ground zero with a megaphone again...warning the world against Islamo-fascism. But I could be wrong. Let's hope he just leaves well enough alone.
If they pull another Rocky the FEMA trailer guy stunt, things could get real ugly.
later.
Connecticut Democrats: Just a friendly reminder if you haven't done so or know of anyone you can pass this info around to it's important to keep the pressure on asking Joe Lieberman to step down and support the Democrat winner Ned Lamont. Unfortunately, despite record turnout, Joe Lieberman still doesn't get it. He needs to hear from the people of Connecticut. Can you call one of Joe Lieberman's offices?
DC Senate Office:202-224-4041
CT Senate Office: 860-549-8463
CT Campaign Office: 860-244-2006
When you call his office please be polite but say something like this: "I am a Connecticut resident and I think Senator Lieberman should suspend his Senate campaign. He has served with dignity and should leave the Senate with dignity. Thank you."
Party leaders in Washington have decided and they're ready to get to work to help Ned Lamont win. Harry Reid, Senator Dodd, Wes Clark, John Kerry, John Edwards and others are all backing Ned Lamont now.
Posted by RalphCrandon on September 3, 2006 at 12:40 AM Kennedy is no Rod Grahams, I hope he wins but in the big picture it doesn't matter much. He is another wishy washy moderate.
He's not a "moderate" but he did vote against CAFTA, against No Child Left Behind and he supported the light rail from Minneapolis up to the St. Cloud region,
and he has my thanks for that.
On the other hand. I would put a yard sign for Rod Grahams, who is running against Oberstar, in front of my place and the same 1 or 2 people would see it every day.
:)
We can end Republican control if we can get out the vote on Election Day, and that will take a little help from a lot of us. Together, we'll call millions of swing district voters and get them to the polls for a Democrat victory.
http://pol.moveon.org/phone/volunteer
Also, if you're not registered to vote or know of anyone else who isn't registered to vote and who would probably favor the Democrat Party visit this website in the link below and share it with others as well.
The invisible hand that smacks the market around every now and then is taking the Fox Propaganda Network to the woodshed.
Cable News August 2006 Ratings
In the last year, Fox alone has lost viewers and while they still lead, they've lost viewers big time.
Primetime - Persons 2+:
CNN FOX MSNBC
August '06: 902 1511 371
August '05: 748 2093 349
% change: +21% -28% +6%
Primetime - 25-54:
CNN FOX MSNBC
August '06: 294 432 157
August '05: 236 541 145
% change: +25% -20% +8%
Posted by RalphCrandon on September 3, 2006 at 12:40 AM On the other hand. I would put a yard sign for Rod Grahams, who is running against Oberstar, in front of my place and the same 1 or 2 people would see it every day.
I didn't miss your point about Oberstar.
As soon as hit "Post" I wanted to rephrase my post. I did not mean to imply that northern MN was full of GOP moonbats. In fact, I originally intended to ask Pammy that she not judge, what in many respects is the best place on earth to live, solely on your posts. :)
Ahhhh... Subpoenas, indictments,... impeachment! It all sounds like a sweet dream. I don't want to wake up, I've had a massive political migraine since 2000. It is conceivable. George Bush and co. should at least face intense scrutiny. Not to hound them, but to force them to operate legally and for the best interests of the country. Clean up their acts, forgo fearmongering and smear tactics. Sink Karl Rove in a lake.... I don't want revenge. I want transparency and accountability. Vote Democrat. Believe in government: expect a lot from it.
So Karl Rove's step father was a queer. Not his father but his step father. Someone please tell me why that is newsworthy or good for Democrats.
A new videotape has surfaced featuring Osama bin Laden's second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahiri, and an American member of al Qaeda wanted by the FBI, according to a counterterrorism expert. "We invite all Americans and believers to Islam, whatever their role and status in Bush and Blair's world order," the American says. "Decide today, because today could be your last day." Full story in link below:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/09/02/zawahiri.tape/index.html
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Now for my thoughts. This is terrible! Will we ever have world peace? It's been 5 years since the horrible events of September 11, 2001 and Osama Bin Laden is still free. It's a disgrace! The war in Iraq is taking away from us dealing with the real threats when Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. I pray Democrats win this November because Republicans have made us less safe with their failed polices. We need to take back our great American Nation by helping Democrats get elected.
Truth will leave a bitter sensation in the belly but will make your words as sweet as honey.
Read the latest by 'the Lonely Professor'
'Revelation after revelation'
This is the new blog by 'the Lonely Professor', called: 'Cutting through the Bush Smokescreen'.
tLP
It doesn't matter if Karl Rove's stepfather was homosexual, and it shouldn't be a political tool for anyone. It was one person's personal choice.
Workers lose traction over past 10 years
Despite strong productivity growth, wages don't keep pace and fewer workers receive health and pension coverage.
....
Between 1995 and 2005, productivity -- a measure of the quantity and quality of what workers produce per hour -- grew 33.4 percent. But hourly wages rose only 11 percent, with almost all of that increase coming during the late 1990s, according to EPI.
...
When it comes to benefits, pension and health coverage has fallen in the past five years.
The percentage of full-time private-sector workers whose employer sponsors a retirement plan fell from 66.3 percent in 2000 to 59.7 percent in 2005, according to the Congressional Research Service (CRS).
None of anything in that article is good news.
Ralph, since the 16th amendment was passed, we've taxed labor, capital and corporations in roughly equal measure and we built
* the largest middle class in the world
* the largest job creation engine in the world
* and the largest economy in the world
But the moonbats in charge of the GOP since Reagan think that we should get radical and not tax capital gains at all.
And if they had their druthers, they'd like to exempt corporations from paying taxes and leave labor to fund what we need to defend our country and build our roads, schools, and health care delivery systems.
Explain to me how these moonbat policies are good for our country.
Well then jhop what is the point of this?
Tuesday will allege that Karl Rove's step-father, Louis Rove, divorced his mother and lived the rest of his adult life as an openly gay man ---
Posted by Roxie on September 2, 2006 at 07:42 PM
Posted by RalphCrandon on September 3, 2006 at 01:27 AM So Karl Rove's step father was a queer. Not his father but his step father. Someone please tell me why that is newsworthy or good for Democrats.
From what I gather, Rove "loved" his step father.
But while knew his step father was gay, and while he loves him as he is, he decided to pander to and empower people who would just as soon deport gays to help the GOP gain power and screw up the country.
So it seems to me that the real question is why that good for America?
Ahnold the Charlatan Govenator in "Total Recall II"
Governator Ahnold Schwarzenegger -- what a charlatan on this California global warming bill.
It could have been a better bill if Ahnold hadn't blocked tighter measures to curb pollution and energy waste and to stimulate energy alternatives.
But Ahnold -- with his every sinew rooted in the Bush energy/oil scam -- knew all along he had nothing to lose in the charade. Why?
Because Ahnold has been privy to the Bush Administration "strateegerie" that plans to NEGATE any global warming bill made into California law, just as the Bush Administration has done and continues to do against ANY higher standards created by state legislatures!
Bush has worked to negate state food safety laws, state pesticide regulation laws, state regulation of data mining and distribution, and genetic modification free zones. Now just add state global warming legislation to Bush's neutralization list. Ahnold knows this bill will be subject to "Total Recall", but probably not till AFTER Ahnold gets to "act" at being a protector of the environment for election purposes!
Ahnold -- what a lousy actor. But still an adequate enough charlatan to fool California voters? Let's hope voters see through this pretender who is a Bush loyalist where it counts, and who fakes opposition only where it is meaningless.
Pray candidate Angelides terminates the Terminator in the upcoming election.
To RalphCrandon:
Background info on public figures helps people try to understand them. The facts that Karl Rove's stepfather was gay, and that his mother committed suicide might mean something to someone who wants to know what drives Karl Rove. Ultimately, we can't see into his soul or mind, so it is probably a red herring. And I didn't post the info here, so I can't tell you what the point was.
Well that is easy to explain, he loved his stepfather but was disgusted with his behavior. Just as others who engage in that kind of behavior disgust him.
I had an uncle who talked with his mouth full and spit food all over, I liked the guy but was disgusted by his eating habits as I am disgusted with others who do the same and would like to deport them.
I didn't say anything about emotions or wanting to "deport" anyone. All I said was that background info gives people the feeling they have insight into people's behavior. For all we know, Karl Rove may be truly ambivalent about homosexuality. As for spitting food all over, only my 9 month old does that, and I'm not sending him anywhere.
Posted by RalphCrandon on September 3, 2006 at 02:26 AM I liked the guy but was disgusted by his eating habits as I am disgusted with others who do the same and would like to deport them.
Yea, well. About 13% of America is gay. Go spit on a couple of dozen graves at Arlington and you're bound to hit one.
If we all could indulge and deport whomever disgusts us there would be no one left for al Qaeda to kill and I'm not about to give them that satisfaction.
As for spitting food all over, only my 9 month old does that, and I'm not sending him anywhere.
Posted by jhop on September 3, 2006 at 02:33 AM
Now is the time to deport him before you get too attached to him.
Posted by RalphCrandon on September 3, 2006 at 02:41 AM Now is the time to deport him before you get too attached to him.
:)
And not only that, there's no college costs.
Hmmmm... tempting. And it is like a whole other country up there, eh?
UN warns of soaring Afghan opium. Poppy cultivation in Afghanistan is expected to soar by 59% this year, providing 92% of the world's supply of opium, the United Nations says.
Full story:
Anyway, it's too late. He has his hooks in me. So, RalphCrandon, is any of this liberal Democratic political worldview rubbing off on you yet?
Posted by jhop on September 3, 2006 at 02:46 AM Hmmmm... tempting. And it is like a whole other country up there, eh?
Good choice, jhop. They have a national health insurance plan up there.
Plus, sometime before his first date, he'll learn to stop spitting up food. That much is certain.
I don't beleive that 13% of Americans are queer, maybe 3% with an additional few percent who can't get girls and don't much care.
To dorsano: God, I hope so. As if naked baby pics aren't embarassing enough!
Posted by jhop on September 3, 2006 at 02:49 AM So, RalphCrandon, is any of this liberal Democratic political worldview rubbing off on you yet?
Is this adminstration competent? Same answer. :)
Well, RalphCrandon, figures probably vary from studies published by different groups, but I think the figure is higher than you think, and not linked to inadequacy issues.
Canadian Liberals call for challenge to new U.S. border measures.
Yeah, dorsano, we've become a highly polarized country. I know if someone tried to change my political views, they'd have a fight on their hands. I think people come by their politics honestly, for the most part. But they're highly influenced by dishonest politicians.
I think people come by their politics honestly, for the most part. But they're highly influenced by dishonest politicians.
Posted by jhop on September 3, 2006 at 03:01 AM
Yeah, I know what you mean. I was a Democrat before Clinton came along.
I see Howie Dean is going to be on Meet the Press tomorrow. He won't go one and argue with his Republican equivalent, Mehlman, Mehlman will come on afterwords I'm sure.
Terry McCauliffe used to debate the Republican whoever he was. I think Dean is afraid he will go ballistic again. His face would turn all red and he'd start shaking and then he would say something incredibly stupid.
Posted by RalphCrandon on September 3, 2006 at 03:07 AM Yeah, I know what you mean. I was a Democrat before Clinton came along.
The big dog is your favorite guy. I'm glad you didn't get all mushy on us. Thanks for showing restraint.
Now that's funny, RC. I wish I could pin my healthy skepticism squarely on just one person. President Clinton disappointed me with the Monica Lewinsky affair. Politicians are people, with all the weaknesses that come with it. President Bush rarely commands my respect. Do my inherent biases keep me from trusting him? I honestly tried, after 9-11. We all pulled together. But he lost me on Iraq.
I hope Governor Dean does "go ballistic." It's about time the Democrats stand up to all the crass rhetorical bull the Bush administration dumps on them. America needs someone to stand up and clear the air, we're in too tight a spot not to.
Posted by jhop on September 3, 2006 at 03:15 AM But he (Bush) lost me on Iraq.
It's quite possible he'll lose Iraq itself - not only you.
This president smacks of the captain of the Pequod obsessed with Moby Dick.
It's lookin like he'll be the first president to be outdone by a sperm whale.
Clinton should have deposed Saddam when he threw the weapons inspecters out. Carter should have bombed Iran when they kidnapped our embassy.
When you get weak presidents you get every hairball country or group pushing us around. Carter with Iran and the Soviets and Clinton with Iraq.
When Khadafi bombed that airliner over Scotland, Reagan bombed his tent and killed his daughter and Khadafi has been good ever since. And that is the way to do things.
The terrorists and Saddam misjudged Bush - they thought they were dealing with another Carter or Clinton.
Posted by jhop on September 3, 2006 at 03:22 AM I hope Governor Dean does "go ballistic."
Dean tells the truth. It drives moonbats ballistic. But it allows them to vent so we should soon see a drop in people abusing their pets.
We have a brand new mega WalMart in the area and me and my daughter are going to go spend vast sums of money there now. So bye!
Posted by RalphCrandon on September 2, 2006 at 06:28 PM
Yep, first of the month and Sally got "her" social security/welfare check. Had to hit the Wal Mart.
E-mail, write or better yet call everyone you know in Canada and tell them about this travesty!
From counterpunch.com:
Weekend Edtion
September 2 / 3, 2006
The Softwood Lumber Slush Fund
Canada Forks Over $450 Million to Bush
By INGMAR LEE
Regretably, the big news across Canada at the moment is not that the Bush-lackey Neocon Prime Minister Stephen Harper says that the USraeli Ziocon Lebanon atrocity was "measured" and "reasonable."
The BIG NEWS is that Harper's Conservative government will will now proceed with legislation to implement an extremely controversial "sellout" Softwood Lumber agreement with the US.
Why should this be of interest to Americans and Bush-haters everywhere?
Washington International Trade Lawyer, Elliot Feldman claims that the deal, negotiated by Bush and his Canadian lackey, "Steve" (as Bush calls him) Harper, will see $450 million funnelled straight past Congress and the US treasury, and will go instead, directly to the Bush Whitehouse.
Feldman has extensive experience in the North American Free Trade Agreement. His practice concentrates on all forms of trade remedies affecting the movement of goods and services across international borders. He advises foreign governments, American and foreign corporations on matters of trade policy and litigates international trade disputes in all relevant forums in the United States.
On August 21st, Feldman told an Ottawa meeting of the Standing Committee on International Trade, that Canada was not only shafted when Harper caved to the US interests while hammering out this deal, but that the government of Canada is making a gift of $450 million to be spent by the president.
Feldman said:
"...This is in my view an historic, unprecedented, astounding intrusion into American politics. We searched all the way back to the Revolution and found nothing like it in American history. And the question that I came this morning to put is, "Will the Parliament of Canada accept responsibility for possibly tipping the balance in American politics in preserving the control of Congress by the president's party?" This softwood lumber agreement is an historic moment in part because of that proposition, and it's up to this Parliament to decide whether it will accept the responsibility. That responsibility cannot be shifted and, indeed, that money inevitably will go to shore up the electoral aspirations of the Republican party through the president -- it's not going to be touched by Congress -- it's going through an escrow fund. And these are questions that could impact American politics for generations and impact relations between Canada and the United States for generations to come. And that is entirely in the hands of this Parliament..."
Here's a link to Elliot Feldman's report
Although Canada has won virtually every legal action taken out against the U.S. under NAFTA and the WTO, the Bush government has stonewalled and disregarded every single ruling. The new Harper/Bush Softwood Lumber deal has been vociferously blasted all across Canada, and opposition parties, business analysts and even trans-national logging companies are all outraged. Although the logging-lackey Neocon Premier of British Columbia, Gordon Campbell (a convicted criminal who was busted for drunk-driving in Maui in January 2003, ~while Premier) was the first to capitulate and endorse the deal, even amongst the logging corps there's been a vitual consensus that this was an exceedingly stupid deal.
This from Bruce Campbell on Rabble.ca:
"...As part of the settlement, the Canadian government handed over $1 billion of the duties collected from Canadian companies - $500 million to the U.S. companies, and $450 million to the Bush Administration. This was the American price for giving Canada at least two years of lumber peace. In addition, the Americans secured tough restrictions on Canadian access to their market and got enhanced control over Canadian forest policies. The U.S. industry's cut of this money covers their legal fees and replenishes their war chest for the next round of the lumber dispute. The Bush White House cut (to use for aid projects as it sees fit) is nothing less than a huge slush fund for the upcoming Congressional elections - an unprecedented campaign gift from the Harper government to the Republican re-election bid, paid for by the Canadian lumber industry..."
Washington will return $4-billion of the more than $5-billion in punitive duties that it has collected from logging companies over the past four years, and that money will go to the giant trans-national and American logging corporations such as Weyerhaeuser for example, which are out there, destroying Canada's forests. Canadian taxpayers will get zilch, and so too apparently, will Americans.
Of the remaining $1 billion, $500 million will go to the U.S. logging companies who paradoxically, quite rightly charged that Canada grossly subsidizes its logging industry, and will pay the massive legal bills they accumulated. The remainder is for undisclosed "meritorious" projects in the U.S. - New Orleans? - read Halliburton, and a fund for developing the industry on both sides of the border. With Bush handing out the disbursements, we can be certain as to exactly who's going to get the cash.
It should be of great interest and concern to all that Canada could well have become the primary financier of Republican election campaigns in the upcoming November elections
Here's the PDF text of the New Canada/US Softwood Lumber Agreement
Here's a chronology of events in the long-running softwood lumber dispute between Canada and the United States from Canoe.ca:
1982: The U.S. lumber industry lobby first petitioned against Canadian softwood lumber imports under U.S. countervailing duty law, alleging Canadian forest management practices unnfairly subsidize Canadian producers.
1983: After a full investigation, the U.S. Commerce Department concludes that Canadian stumpage policy does not confer countervailable subsidy.
1986: The Coalition for Fair Lumber Imports again seeks countervailing duties.
Oct. 16, 1986: Commerce Department determines that Canadian stumpage systems confer a subsidy averaging 15 per cent to lumber producers.
Dec. 30, 1986: Canada and U.S. strike a five-year deal to resolve the dispute, with Canada agreeing to collect a 15 per cent charge on exports of lumber from Canada, while provincial governments implemented so-called "replacement measures" that would replace the export charge over time.
Jan. 1 1989: The Canada-U.S. Free Trade Agreement comes into force, including new binding dispute settlement mechanisms which provide bi-national panel review of countervailing duty and anti-dumping determinations by domestic trade authorities.
May 28, 1992: U.S. Commerce Department issues final affirmative determination on subsidization, finding that forest management programs in British Columbia, Alberta, Ontario and Quebec and the log export controls imposed by B.C. conferred countervailable subsidies.
July 15, 1992: Commerce Department imposes final countervailing duties of 6.51 per cent on lumber imports from all provinces except the Atlantic Provinces.
August 1992: Canada appeals decisions to binational panels under the free trade deal.
July 6, 1994: After numerous reviews and appeals, the Department of Commerce revokes the countervailing duty order.
May 29, 1996: Canada and the United States finalize agreement on softwood lumber covering the five-year period to March 31, 2001, which limited duty-free shipments of lumber to the United States to 14.7 billion board feet a year. Shipments after that could be shipped but were subject to increasingly prohibitive tariff rates. Exports from Atlantic Canada were unrestricted.
April 2, 2001: The Coalition for Fair Lumber Imports files countervailing and anti-dumping duty petitions with the United States government, alleging a subsidy rate of 39.9 per cent.
May 3, 2002: Canada requests WTO consultations with the United States concerning the U.S. Final Determination of Subsidy.
May 23, 2003: Canada releases counterproposal as the basis for discussions with the United States.
2003-2004: The dispute goes through various administrative reviews, NAFTA challenges and the WTO.
Aug. 10, 2005: An extraordinary challenge panel, convened under the North American Free Trade Agreement, dismisses U.S. claims that Canada's softwood exports are subsidized. Ottawa claims victory, Washington says it will ignore the ruling.
Aug. 11, 2005: British Columbia premier Gordon Campbell, whose province is Canada's largest lumber producer, tells new U.S. ambassador David Wilkins at a premiers meeting in Banff, Alta., that he expects the United States to accept the ruling.
Aug. 16: Federal officials say Canadian government is suspending softwood lumber talks with the United States to protest its refusal to heed the panel's ruling, which Canada argues was the final avenue of appeal under NAFTA.
Aug. 23: At a brief media scrum, Prime Minister Paul Martin castigates the United States for its lumber protectionism and its decision to ignore the panel's ruling.
Aug. 29: World Trade Organization rules the United States complied with international law. Washington calls WTO ruling a vindication and Ottawa calls a setback, saying NAFTA ruling takes precedent.
Dec: 12, 2005: The U.S. Commerce Department publishes the final results in the second administrative reviews of the anti-dumping and countervailing duty orders on softwood lumber from Canada for 2003 and 2004, determining a final, countrywide countervailing duty rate of 8.7 per cent and anti-dumping duty rate of 2.11 per cent.
April 26. 2006: Canada and U.S. hammer out a framework deal that would cap Canada's share of the U.S. lumber market, impose a border tax and return 78 per cent of the $5 billion in punitive duties collected by U.S. Customs since May 2002.
Aug. 9: Trade Minister David Emerson gives Canadian lumber producers a deadline of Aug. 21 to support the negotiated deal.
Aug. 22: Prime Minister Stephen Harper announces the Conservative government will bring in legislation next month to implement the softwood deal with the U.S. after getting support from a majority of lumber companies in all regions.
Ingmar Lee is a Canadian writer currently living in Pondicherry, India. He can be reached at ingmarz@gmail.com
Posted by RalphCrandon on September 3, 2006 at 03:49 AM Clinton should have deposed Saddam when he threw the weapons inspecters out.
Saddam used to kill "Islamoooo Fascists" like Muktadar al Sadir father and uncles. Some people think he was doing God's work then.
Carter should have bombed Iran when they kidnapped our embassy.
If he had done that, he would have killed 66 Americans.
The Eisenhower administration, through the CIA, overthrew a democratically elected government in Iran because the new Iranian democratic government, strapped for cash, wanted to nationalize the Iranian oil industry.
The explosian of the Iranian Revolution was a direct result of Eisenhower returning the Shah to power.
When you get weak presidents you get every hairball country or group pushing us around. Carter with Iran and the Soviets and Clinton with Iraq.
When you elect moonbats who don't know guano about much of anything
you get major failures.
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4402594.stm
Note "bogus document" regarding Iraq purchase of unranium from Niger.
Joe Wilson is being attacked again for no reason
this is funny. i wish someone would do a poll on whether or not americans believe kkk karl outed the cia agent. i bet over fifty percent do. the authors of this ny times piece don't site such as a reason his influence is deminished but i bet its part of the picture. and of course karl has made a classic advisor's mistake, he has let himself become a media focus...
Rove’s Word Is No Longer G.O.P. Gospel
By ADAM NAGOURNEY and JIM RUTENBERG
Published: September 2, 2006
WASHINGTON, Sept. 2 — Karl Rove, the president’s chief political adviser, is struggling to steer the Republican Party to victory this fall at a time when he appears to have the least political authority since he came to Washington, party officials said.
Mr. Rove remains a dominant adviser to President Bush, administration officials say. But outside the White House, as Mr. Bush’s popularity has waned, and as questions have arisen among Republicans about the White House’s political acumen, the party’s candidates are going their own way in this difficult election season far more than they have in any other campaign Mr. Rove has overseen.
Some are disregarding Mr. Rove’s advice, despite his reputation as the nation’s premier strategist. They are criticizing Mr. Bush or his policies. They are avoiding public events with the president and Mr. Rove.
hoisted on one's own petard
this editorial from long island's newsday is about the fifth anniversary of the attack on the world trade center and our governments actions in response:
9/11
morning prayer brought to you from the church of electrica bannano lost and wandering ex-catholic hoards....please god, please god, please make this dream come true...we been gooder than we ever been before and we really, really can't take this shit no more....oops...sorry god....five hail marys and two our fathers....
GOP's Hold on House Shakier
As Labor Day gets the campaign in full swing, Democrats are counting on voters unhappy with one-party rule and Bush's leadership.
By Janet Hook, Times Staff Writer
September 3, 2006
WASHINGTON — Raye Haug, a retired librarian in northern Virginia, for years happily voted to reelect her longtime congressman, Republican Frank R. Wolf. But the GOP record of the last six years — on foreign policy, the economy and the environment — has so soured Haug that she wants to vote for a Democrat in this year's midterm election.
Any Democrat.
"I don't think I've ever before been willing to vote for someone just because of their party affiliation," said Haug, who walked precincts one sweltering Saturday for Judy Feder, Wolf's Democratic opponent, even though she knew little about her.
As Labor Day signals the start of intense campaigning for the Nov. 7 election, the political landscape is crowded with disgruntled voters like Haug, who tell pollsters they don't like the direction the country has taken under President Bush and Republican rule in Congress.
if the dems win either house i promise to go to mid-night mass christmas eve 06!
Happy Slacker Sunday, everyone. I hope it's an enjoyable holiday weekend for all. Kinda drizzly and a bit of a chill, but we're making the best of it.
AFL-CIO Looks for United Front on Election Day
Determined to prove their continuing political clout despite divisions in the ranks, leaders of the AFL-CIO have launched what they hope will produce their biggest-ever mobilization of union members at the polls this fall.
hi jacq, gotta go run the pooch thru the pond and soap her up and rinse her..seems last nite she found some interesting stuff to rub that shoulder in and whew! is she a stinker...
Several themes in play for 2006 midterm elections
It's Labor Day Weekend, and that means more than parades, barbecues, ballgames, and the last swims of the summer. It is also the traditional beginning of the political season, and this year - with a war in Iraq and with uncertainty in the economy - the stakes are higher than usual: nothing less than control of the Congress in the last two years of President Bush's administration.
Today is my Labor Day I have to work on a new floor on Monday. I don't get benefits so I have to work when it's available, oh well it doesn't really bother me I'd just be spending money instead of making some.
Tim Mahoney is a democrat running against Mark Foley (R) 16th District Fl. Last night I saw an attack ad against Tim, it's the first time I've even seen a campaign ad for Foley and of course it's an attack. Democrats get very poor press coverage locally so I have been reduced to hearing about Tim through his web-site and e-mails with his staff. Locals write letters to the editor to the local papers claiming a liberal bias yet no real coverage of Democtatic challengers is printed.
This constant rant of a so-called liberal press the republicans keep chanting is getting very tiring and boring. I want real news and debates not attack ads. All the talk show neocons that dominate the news just lie and try to scare people, everything they have done has been wrong yet their "opinions" continue to be validated by the so-called liberal media. The word liberal has successfully been demonized by the right wing spin machine and supported by corporate ownership and consolidation of most media outlets. Freedom of the press isn't free or bipartisan when information is controlled by corporations more interested in profits than truth.
peace
Good Morning Everyone.
I'm Back!
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Have fun, gg.
Genetic test on embryos stirs debate
For most parents who have used preimplantation diagnosis, the burden of playing God has been trumped by the near certainty that diseases such as cystic fibrosis and sickle-cell anemia will afflict the children who carry the genetic mutation that causes them.
well the pooch is bathed and fed. welcome back fos.
wldj, it is hard to find that liberal press when you need them. too bad they let that fairness in the media thing go back in the 1980's, we have been paying the price ever since and fox really is nothing more than the white house position channel. enjoy your early labor day.
I see today's action is to go back to school. I really enjoy going to the local high schools & the technical campus here in my county. I've found that instructors of the occupational work programs in the high school are easiest to work with.
The students, for the most part, are interested and concerned. I recommend that if you are able, be willing to reach out to the students. Last year I was able to obtain one student as a "rover" that trouble shoots on election day on the TSX units, and another to be a pollworker. My Necee got extra credit (and the day off school) to be a "waver" of Zack's sign on election day.
Please, become engaged.
Enjoy the day, everyone.
Thanks gregg.
There's an awful lot to read up on.I may not be able to get to it all.It;s a good thing my hotel room had CNN so I am up on all the issues.From Rabid Rumsfeld to the Pedophile Prophet.LOL
What gets to me is how the radical right wing talking heads go on television and claim democrats and liberals are cowards, unpatriotic and weak on national security. They use cute marketing statements like "cut and run" "tax and spend" and "fascist sympathisers" instead of defending their own failed policies and no one calls them on their manipulative lies.
The truth is the right has failed and all they have left is to try to scare, intimidate and insult critics to stay in power. Another thing that just bugs the hell out of me is how they use their so-called religious "faith" to claim not only moral superiority but justification for waging an illegal war.
The right has given us illegal wiretapping, torturing, illegal rendition, un Constitutional "military tribunals", started a civil war in the name of Democracy, illegally releasing selected classified information to smear a war critic and out his undercover cia wife and as the song says "the band played on".
No oversight, rubber stamping divisive judges, using and abusing Congressional power to subvert the Constitution and divide the country along religious lines. Using public money to support selected religious organizations in violation of the Separation of Church and State, good grief I'm getting tired of typing all the abuses heaped on us from this criminal Administration.
Impeach, prosecute and remove the Bush team from office in 07.
peace
Reminder - Howard Dean on Face the Nation this morning!
good commentary from BuzzFlash this morning:
Bush "conquers" Afghanistan and it shoots up to become the all-time leader in producing opium, as in more heroin on our streets.
Bush "invades" Iraq and precipitates a civil war and creates a magnet for terrorists, where none had the ability to function before.
Bush cuts taxes for the wealthy and spends on the military-industrial complex like a drunken sailor, proceeding on a course to bankrupt America.
Bush allows the rapid outsourcing of American jobs to nations like China, our real future adversary as a world power.
Bush dismantles the Constitution, what he claims the terrorists are attempting to do, but he does it for them.
What more evidence is that we have a Manchurian candidate in the White House?
Could the terrorists do any more harm to America than Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld are doing?
The terrorists don't have to lift a finger. Bush is doing their work for them.
They can just sit back, take a nap or two, and dream of the virgins in their heaven.
They've found their stooge -- and he's our president.
The chicken hawk Brit Hume just called all democrats cowards on national tv. I'm sure he was a fierce warrior in his younger days or maybe not, it's much easier fighting a war from behind a desk rather than behind a gun. Kristol is mouthing off about Joe Wilson with Good ole Brit backing him up. The slam fest against Wilson is starting all over again. Why anyone listens and believes anything the neocon jerkoff Kristol says is beyond my comprehension.
Good morning, all.
Posted by wldj on September 3, 2006 at 09:09 AM
wldj, they aren't really very nice people, are they? Am I hateful for saying so? I don't think so.
I don't like people bullying, lying, and desecrating my religion to advance unwarranted wars against people who have never attacked us. I think they are irresponsible, incompetent, and now in full panic mode as their efforts have resulted in nothing but failure.
They should be relived of their duty.
They have dishonored our country by torturing prisoners, weakened our military with war profiteering, raided our treasury to feed the rich, persecuted minorities to appeal to bigots, accepted bribes..all while ignoring the mounting suffering of the sick, disabled, and wounded in action.
They are not fit to serve.
We must help the American people throw the bums out this November before they destroy what’s left of the middle class, the American Dream, and our nation's defense.
The slam fest against Wilson is starting all over again.
Posted by wldj on September 3, 2006 at 09:48 AM
They're having to replay the same old tunes from their hit parade of smear, because their proposed WW III didn't go over well with Their Base...or anybody else for that matter.
They don't have any new ideas except starting wars and wasting money...when they can't finish the ones they already have going.
The Republican message to the voters this fall now is:
You'll have to be patient and wait for Kingdom come. We promise you that Jesus will someday solve the problems we've created and can't solve.
In the meantime, give us your sons and daughters for slaughter. Pass the amunition, you selfish, unpatriotic, godless ingrates.
Oh, I think the moderates and Independents have gotten the message real well this time around. About time.
Posted by SandyH on September 3, 2006 at 09:51 AM
Saying these right wing nuts not very nice has got to be the understatement of the millinium. From Allen's use of the slur macaca and the cynical way the republicans demonize gay people and minorities is just par for the course for a party of exclusion. I'm a poor construction worker and remain amazed that any working class citizen can vote republican. By doing so they are voting against their own interest and future.
My wages have remained basically the same for the last 10 to 15 years. I'm having to struggle against all the immigrint labor that will work for a third of my fees and that is very difficult. I don't hold a grudge against the immigrint worker but I have do do things legally and they don't, I just want the playing field leveled. The problem isn't the worker but the employer who can bypass current law and hire these people at slave wages and driving their profits up illegally.
Posted by gregg on September 3, 2006 at 08:00 AM
Gregg, that was me six years ago. After being an Independent for so many years, I was ready to vote for any Democrat because I was so angry about the impeachment.
Now I work to get Democrats elected who want real change. I hope we can convert a few of these people like Ms. Haug to the cause. We need more than their vote this election; we need their commitment to furthering the cause for the long haul.
Maybe that should be one of the 100 days suggestions...convert a new volunteer to a party member.
Sandy,
I too, remained unaffiliated all my voting years, until the 2000 election ! When I saw what the Supreme Court was able to achieve, by it's very existence, that is also when I understood that we needed a balanced and fair Court.
I went and re-registered to Democrat, as a matter of principle. I will not pull a Republican lever again in my lifetime.
I'M SURE THIS WAS POSTED HERE THE VERY SAME DAY IT WAS RELEASED BUT JUST IN CASE,I'M REPOSTING IT.
Feingold Gets "A" Grade For Darfur Genocide Effort
Thursday, 31 August 2006, 11:10 am
Washington, D.C. – U.S. Senator Russ Feingold has received an "A" grade from the nonpartisan Genocide Intervention Network for his work to end the genocide in Darfur, Sudan. The scorecard measures support from Members of Congress for Darfur through voting and other actions. Overall, the Senate received a disappointing "C" grade. Since the crisis began, Feingold, the top ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on Africa, has been deeply involved in congressional efforts to end the violence in Sudan. In 2004, Feingold became the first U.S. Senator to call the tragedy in Darfur genocide. During a fact-finding trip to the region last year, Feingold met with officials and toured refugee camps set up for the thousands of Sudanese refugees who had fled from Darfur.
"I am honored to be recognized for my efforts on this crucial issue," Feingold said. "Unfortunately, there is still more work ahead. I will continue to work with my Senate colleagues to bring an end to the crisis in Sudan."
Since conflict between the government and rebel groups broke out in the Darfur region in 2003, a humanitarian crisis has gripped the region, displacing two million people and resulting in at least 200,000 deaths. Feingold co-sponsored legislation to hold accountable those responsible for genocide, expand the current peacekeeping mission to bring about a lasting peace, and improve the protection of civilians affected by this conflict. Feingold has authored and co-signed several letters to the Administration on the issue. Feingold has also advocated for the introduction of a strong United Nations peacekeeping force into the Darfur region and the establishment of a Special Envoy to help lead U.S. efforts relating to this conflict.
"Now is not the time to relax our efforts," Feingold said. "The U.S. must be a strong leader on this issue and work tirelessly with the international community to help bring an end to the violence and assist the people of Sudan in establishing long-term peace.
Amen Senator!
SURELY,THIS STORY WRITTEN BY MIKE GLOVER OF THE ASSOCIATED PRESS GOT THE ATTENTION IT DESERVED,BUT JUST IN CASE.....
Feingold warns Democrats against being ``too timid''
By MIKE GLOVER
AP
AMES, Iowa (AP) - Democrats face a historic opportunity in this year's midterm election, but could let it slip away if they become too timid, Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., said Thursday.
Feingold said a combination of President Bush 's low approval rating and voters unhappy with a Republican -led Congress gives Democrats a chance to make solid gains this year, but only if they remain aggressive.
"The key is, are we going to be strong and show where these guys have gone wrong and where we would go right, or are we just going to try to run the clock out? If we try to run the clock out, we lose," said Feingold, considered to be a potential candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination. He was in Iowa where he met with activists and students at Iowa State University.
GOP: SCARED SHETLESS,THEY ARE EMBRACING DEMOCRATIC POSITIONS!
GOP Senate Candidate Says Rumsfeld Should Resign: "This Secretary Stepped Over The Line"...
State Senator Thomas H. Kean Jr., the Republican nominee for United States Senate in New Jersey, says he is so frustrated with the Bush administration's handling of the war in Iraq that he is pushing for something that few Republicans have supported: the resignation of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld.
In an interview at his campaign headquarters here, just shy of midnight on Friday, Mr. Kean said that he had become dissatisfied over the summer with what he said was Mr. Rumsfeld's refusal to consider "competing points of view."
Awww,poor little Republicrats.They have run as Democrats with R's to get half a chance.Ha Ha Ha Ha !
AMERICA IS READY TO VOTE DEMOCRAT. THEY CAN SEE THROUGH THE FAKE EFFORTS MADE BY REPUBLICANS TO GET VOTES ONLY TO ABANDON THERE'RE CONSTITUENTS AFTER THEY'RE ELECTED!
morning all,
freedom,
Feingold warns Democrats against being ``too timid''
and we might add becoming too complacent. i hope the dnc shoots not only for the house but the senate too. i know the senate is a very long shot. with the disgust prevailing, keep the fire stoked with democratic base. DNC needs one more component besides not being "timid and complacent," that being a voter registeration drive between now and november that's unparalled in history. perhaps a slogan like:
"REPLACE THIS REPUBLICAN DISGRACE ...REGISTER THE NEW AND CHARGE OUR BASE"
George Will is a prime example of what is wrong with the Republican Party.
Even thought some conservatives are beginning to realize that Iraq was a mistake and that the national debt and trade inbalance could be a big problem, they still are completely out of touch with working people in America.
On ABC's George S show this morning, Will used the example of a new retail store openning up in Chicago as an example of how good the economy is doing. The democratic pundit pointed out that over 25,000 people showed up to apply for the 375 jobs. Will could not understand how that was a bad thing.
Completely out of touch. The Republicans are squeezing the middle class from the top with outsourcing skilled jobs and from the bottom by allowing unrestricted illegal alien hiring of lower skilled jobs.
What are we all suppose to do? Write political commentary and appear on television as experts on things we don't understand?
Throw the bums overboard.
Good Morning, ALL!!
Welcome back, FOS.
Here they go again. LIARS!
A LTE IN TODAY'S SUN-TIMES:
Posing as an independent
A few weeks ago, flyers for Mark Kirk were being handed out at the Wilmette train station. I took one and was astonished to see ''Independent'' in large letters, but ''Republican'' was nowhere to be found, even in the fine print. Today, I went to Kirk's re-election Web site. There it was again: ''Independent'' in huge letters, but again ''Republican'' was nowhere to be found.
You would think that Kirk is not a member of President Bush's party, the Republican Party, but you would be wrong. In fact, Kirk is a member of the Republican Party in good standing, and he is an important member of Republican Party leadership. He is the ''assistant majority whip'' in the U.S. House of Representatives.
What an assistant majority whip does is make sure that Republicans in the House vote the way the Republican Party leaders want them to. It is hard to believe that Kirk became assistant majority whip by being ''independent,'' as his campaign literature and Web site would have us voters in the 10th District believe.
I am a Navy veteran, like Kirk. We sailors, as Kirk knows, have a saying for what he is doing in the 10th Congressional District: sailing under false colors.
Charles Sawyer,
Wilmette
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Ed Shultz does a regular thing on the Runnin' (scared) Republicans, who are trying to distance themselves from the Party and the Assclowns Drinky & the Brain.
Maybe KOS or some other site could start a running list of these turncoats to their Party.
BTW, this District was Rummy's start in Politics. He was the Representative.
Posted by brian111 on September 3, 2006 at 11:08 AM
You are back?? You talk about Democrats doing nothing but criticizing....
WTF DO YOU THINK YOU DO ON HERE????? Just another little troll with nothing to offer !
Why don't you have a little self esteem, and stay off now that you have been terminated once?
Instead of crying to the moderators, you wimpy puss!
Posted by america1st on September 3, 2006 at 11:53 AM
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Thank You. Glad to be back.;p
If voters nationwide, do what the voters in Connecticut did,Sen.Russ Feingold is going to find himself with his own little click of friends in the Senate who will be happy to co-sponsor his legislations.Then, maybe, just maybe, we'll have nicer things to say instead of having to babysit our own Democratic Leadership (wink wink)
So Karl Rove's step father was a queer. Not his father but his step father. Someone please tell me why that is newsworthy or good for Democrats. Posted by RalphCrandon on September 3, 2006 at 01:27 AM
I see nutty Sally was on last night asking why Republican's sex lives are "newsworthy for Dems". I'd like to know why Clinton's sex has been so "newsworthy for him", for years and years. Oh, I get it, Repugs want to talk about our side's sex life, but don't want Dems to talk about their side's sex life. Why such a deal!
Morning, Sandy.
That "retail store" is the first Wal-Mart allowed to open within the city limits.
Now Wal-Mart says it may just close the store and not give up the lease because of the Big Box Pay Ordinance , thus guaranteeing that NO retail will EVER be on that site.
They are putting pressure on the Aldermen to void their votes, and all they need is for 2 to switch their votes and the Big Box law is dead.
Daley hasn't said whether he would veto it, but the Law Dep't is looking at it.
It looks as if it's not as much of a done deal after all.
Hey DPD,
Yeah,Republicans are doing all they can to camoflauge who they are untill they get elected.They are still die hard Red Republicans,but what they are banking on is the sheer ignorance that grips the very hearts and minds of Republican voters nationwide.They are hoping that their potential constituents do not grab hold of a computer so that they may GOOGLE them.Some Democrats are up to this tatic as well because they are in Red Areas.However,I don't mind the Democrats doing it because hey aren't trying to fool their own consituents,but rather,they're fooling Republican constituents and frankly,it's for their own good.It's sort of like trying to rescue a stray dog in danger of drowning.You sometimes have to trick him into coming to you so you can take him out of harms way.(LOL) Now,the Republican candidates are different.They want to hold on to voters who have had the wool removed from their eyes and want nothing to do with Republicans at all.So, they have to use words like "independent" and "different" and "new" in order to trick them into staying on their side.It's proving difficult because I have already read reports that suggest that the percentage of Americans who identified themselves as Republican dropped signifigantly while those who call themselves Democrats have increased.Most of the Republicans are now calling themselves independent,hence the obsession we see with that word by new Republican candidates running for Congress now.It is my opinion,and hope,that they will not succeed in this decietful and illpurposed tactic.
Posted by Domingo on September 3, 2006 at 12:25 PM
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Speaking of which,I almost did cartwheels when I saw the first Breaking News Story about the arrest of the Christian Conservative Cult Polygamist Pedophile Prophet White Supremist Warren Child Raping Jeffs!
I had been ranting and raving about that dog since he was placed on the F.B.I list.
The GOP is about to lose their religious base.
Shoot i didn't know Dean was going to be on Face The Nations. I guess i'll have to wait for the transcript later on.
Posted by ap215 on September 3, 2006 at 12:53 PM
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I think,it re-airs at 9 pm Central.
this is funny. i wish someone would do a poll on whether or not americans believe kkk karl outed the cia agent. i bet over fifty percent do.
Posted by gregg on September 3, 2006 at 07:20 AM
I will bet that 95% of Americans have no clue who Karl Rove is.
DNC:
Howard Dean seems not to pay any attention to the potential disaster of continuing to parrot Karl Rove's FRAMES between now and November.
The MOST EGREGIOUS example: "The War in Iraq"
There IS NO "War" in Iraq!
Iraq is under an obscene OCCUPATION; an OCCUPATION that can be ENDED tomorrow without shame or remorse.
Karl knows well that the American public will not stomach the "loss" of the "war" in Iraq.
When framed, however, as the OCCUPATION that it is- the story is completely different.
There is nothing cowardly or shameful attached to the ENDING of an OBSCENE OCCUPATION.
It's high time for the DNC to FORBID the use of the phrase "War in Iraq" by any Democrat with a microphone between now and November.
And first- PLEASE expunge the phrase from the headline on your current Iraq webpage!
Atkinsopht
Posted by Atkinsopht on September 3, 2006 at 01:03 PM
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Go to the very top of this page and click on CONTACT.
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So Karl Rove's step father was a queer. Not his father but his step father. Someone please tell me why that is newsworthy or good for Democrats. Posted by RalphCrandon on September 3, 2006 at 01:27 AM
I see nutty Sally was on last night asking why Republican's sex lives are "newsworthy for Dems". I'd like to know why Clinton's sex has been so "newsworthy for him", for years and years. Oh, I get it, Repugs want to talk about our side's sex life, but don't want Dems to talk about their side's sex life. Why such a deal!
Posted by Domingo on September 3, 2006 at 12:25 PM
This isn't a story about Karl Rove's sex life - it is a story about his step fathers perversion. Clinton's sex life was relevant because he was screwing fat girls in the oval office and then lying about it. The story of Karl Rove's step father might be relevant had Karl turned queer but he didn't, he's married with kids.
This article is an introduction to my book that I'm currently writing. In the first part of the book I cover the rant and the need for change or revolution and in the second half I offer nine solutions for removing criminals and establishment politicians from our government.
"Revolution Now" is a democratic manifesto on restoring our government to it's pristine state of the original constitution and bill of rights.
"All political power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority and instituted for their benefit."
The above quote is engraved on the wall of the archive building west of the state capitol in Austin, Texas. It was etched in granite so the people would never forget. The above quote is part of the declaration of rights in the Texas constitution but I believe it applies to all the people of this great nation.
Why a revolution? In 1947, the National Security Act was passed thus began our official secret government. The two main entities were the founding of the CIA and NSA. Information that government servants want to keep from the people could be stone walled behind the umbrella of National Security. The catch all phrase of, "This involves national security and you don't have a need to know" is frequently invoked. Today, The popular phrase is, "The terrorists will know our plans." On a personal note, I once worked for the federal government and the DOD with top secret security clearances and when I conducted investigations and I came across people reluctant to an interview I would often use the phrase, "This involves national security", and very often the line worked.
Taking the lead of the CIA, NSA and DOD many other federal agencies hide under the national security concept. We now have Homeland Security and their, "No Fly" lists. If you happen to be an unfortunate member, well good luck in finding out why you are listed and how to be removed. We basically have an executive branch that stonewalls any investigations and under the FOIA if you do happen to receive a reply, many times key elements of the documents are blackened out. The white house initially refused to have an investigation on 9-11-01 but public pressure over came resistance. The 911 commission was a whitewash because many of the important issues were never addressed such as, why WTC7 fell and why were there multiple explosions being heard before the WTC fell. The 9-11 commission was so frustrated with repeated misstatements by the Pentagon and FAA about their response to the 2001 terror attacks that Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton considered an investigation into deception and filing criminal charges.
Today, we have our civil servants who have kicked you, I and the people to the curb and are running the house. The establishment politicians whether they are democrat or republican have an attitude of, "We will do whatever the hell we want and if you don't like it, try and remove us from office."
This country is bankrupt and this is why you see our government selling off our ports to foreign investors. The DOD alone has over $3 TRILLION unaccounted for since the days of Clinton and yet we still can't get a straight answer as to why? We have a federal reserve that is a corporation and prints fiat money like newspaper without a gold or precious metal standard. We have no accountability at the highest levels of leadership in government agencies. No government agency or individual has been held accountable for the attacks on 9-11-01. We have a senate committee led by Pat Roberts who refuses to investigate the intelligence failures of the Iraq war. Let's call it what it is, a lie, a deception. Our shadow government specializes in deception and you don't have a right or reason to know because it involves, "National Security!" We now have the pre-emptive doctrine which essentially say's, "We can't wait for a mushroom cloud," and if the shadow government thinks or feels threatened, we will invade a sovereign nation. Besides the Katrina debacle and the failures of FEMA and the bloated bureaucracy of the mulit-billion dollar Homeland Security department, we have economic and military aid going to Israel to destroy Lebanon and now recently a $230 million aid package to Lebanon to rebuild what the U.S military weapons manufactures used to destroy Lebanon in the first place. We have a war party that is supported by all of the military industrial complex. War is profitable for those who have a vested interest. If you notice, the establishment politicians and their wealthy lobby groups love to use the term, "war." Since the days of LBJ, we have been at war not only in Vietnam, but we had or have the War on Education, War on Poverty, War on Drugs, War on Terror and what's next? War on the People? If you are aware you will notice we've had more poverty, less educated school children, more drugs and more terror alerts to scare the sheeple into submission. Ask yourself why the middle class in this country is shrinking? Why are corporations out sourcing jobs to other countries and importing cheap goods from slave labor countries like China to be retailed at top dollar here in the United States? Why the mass influx of immigration over our southern borders? To "do the jobs that Americans will not accept" according to Bush. Let's not forget tax breaks for the wealthiest 1% of all Americans. In the, "Trickle down theory" of economics the wealthy oligarchy's will invest in business that will create American jobs. Anyone seeing that here in the USA? Don't forget about off shore tax accounts that are hidden by large corporations that otherwise would pay revenue here in the states. Again, we have a phony, duplicit two party political system in this country that is easily manipulated and controlled by "K" street lobby groups and wealthy independent investors. In addition to loose campaign finance laws we have electronic voting machines without paper tracking ballots and diebold voting machines susceptible to hacking. In the event of a recount how can one verify a valid ballot box if there is no paper trail? In the 2004 presidential election, exit polls were showing Kerry ahead by as much as 6% in Ohio and 3% nationwide. Zogby polling had Kerry ahead in the electoral vote 311 to 213 for Bush.
The police state and the military enforcers in this country are now funded by federal programs at the state, county and city levels and backed by legislation titled, "The USA Patriot Act", which specifies anyone can be labeled a terrorist and locked up without being charged. We have a blight on our country called, Guantanamo, where so called enemy combatants or terrorists have been incarcerated for over five years without a trial. We have CIA torture flights, or "extraordinary rendition" which is a coined phrase for legal torture where suspects are flown to other countries by the CIA and DOD to be tortured for information on the phony war on terror. We have taxation without representation and taxation without return of social services. This country does not have a national health plan or compensation for employment loss. The six months of unemployment insurance and social security benefits, if you qualify, average about $900 a month. This figure is not even close to a cost of living wage. The average citizen pays 28% or more on the dollar in taxes but receives little or no social services in return as compared to countries that are socialist in government.
We have oil companies maximizing profits and the cost of a barrel of oil is projected to rise. Alternative means of energy was discussed since the days of the Carter administration. The electric car concept that was implemented in California now sits in moth balls. You don't think big oil has anything to do with that do you? We have a complicit corporate media that toes the Bush white house and sings to their corporate cronies. Fox news currently has their anchor in the white house. Fox news was the front running cheerleader to invade Iraq. Never mind the millions who protested across this country. These anti-war folks don't support the troops and are with the terrorists if you listen to Rove and Darth Cheney. Current polls indicate 60% of Americans are opposed to the war in Iraq. Using Rovian logic that leaves about 40% of Americans who are not with CIA-Al-Queda. The war party candidates stick together and Libermann is proof of being a uniter among the phony two party system. Establishment politicians like Hillary Clinton, Russ Feingold, John Kerry and other so called liberals continue to vote in support of financing the Iraq war contrary to a clear majority of Americans who oppose such legislation. All one has to do is not listen to what these politicians say, but how they vote. Visit their official web sites. The last watershed moment in this country was the impeachment proceedings and resignation of Nixon. The GOP that circles the white house in our congress will not allow this event to happen again and some of the familiar actors are on the stage in Washington from the Nixon era. Lead characters are, Cheney and Rumsfield. We have a justice department that will not investigate the white house because AG Gonzales was handpicked by Bush. The President has the justice department in his back pocket. We no longer hear from special prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald and the Plame case. The justice department and white house are hoping you will forget all about it and the corporate media has stopped bringing up the Plamegate leak case. Rove and Libby do not act on their own without authorizations from above and the finger points to Cheney. One group that is often left out of the picture in all of these deals involving war profits, arms trade, secret black ops funded by drugs, pharmaceutical companies and other wall street adventures is the international banks. The international banks fund international transactions especially dealing with military weaponry and high tech space gadgets. If there is money to be made, then the banks are going to have their doors wide open whether it's illegal or legal. When it comes to war crimes, whether it's in Iraq or Sudan, very often it's the lowly private or low ranking officer who takes the fall. One needs to look no further than the results of the Abu Ghraib scandal. You didn't find a Rumsfield, Cheney, Bush or a friendly politician implicated. In the final analysis, after we examine the Patriot Act, the secret government, the establishment career politicians, the corporate federal reserve, the war in Iraq and our bankrupt country now being sold off to foreign investors, who is to blame? "We the People" have nobody to blame but ourselves because thru our non participation and lack of oversight we have allowed all of this to transpire. Yes, I know it sounds uncomfortable and some of you maybe saying, "well..I voted, I marched against the war, I wrote my congressman or congresswoman and I wrote my local editor and.." well, I did too and guess what? It's wasn't enough because you and I and many other Americans did not take drastic measures or make the sacrifice to stop the corruption and crimes being committed by a few civil servants in our government. I understand that the corporate banks and their controllers have many of you in debt or you make just enough money to provide food for yourself and family and maybe keep a roof over your head. This was all done by design. The fascist element in our government does not want you to have too much money because in their eyes that equates to having too much power. With a little extra money, You might just have too much influence or you may have money sitting in your bank account to take these criminals to court when an injustice has occurred against you or your family or friends. I understand all of the excuses but when are you going to ask yourselves, "I've had enough of this BS?" I often hear, "I don't know what to do?" or "I know what is going on and I'm outraged but how can I do anything?" This book is written with those questions in mind. I am going to outline and expand upon nine solutions to taking back our government and removing the criminal politicians. I start out with moderate measures that are simple to perform and do not require a great deal of effort such as networking or "netroots" type activity. The last solution culminates with more extreme measures and I present a plan thru non-violent means that involves military style tactics and civil disobedience. The majority of my previous rant that I covered is nothing new to many readers here. It is designed for those who are beginning to wake up. I could cover many more topics and vice but I think this is a good start and reason enough to get off our butt and turn away from the latest gossip tv parade and distracting, "missing children story."
Never under estimate the collective will of, "We the People." You have the power to affect change. You have been mislead and lied to much too often and many of us in the past have given away our power. People seek answers and solutions to problems. We often hear the negative rant without the positive solutions. Have the courage and conviction to stand up for your self and others. Never forget, you are the government! The present government is nothing but a reflection of who we are as a people. You may not agree but again thru the force and will of a few people coupled with lies and deception and our compliance, they have created the conditions that is our reality today. This can all change and it is changing but we have to wake up the rest of the American sheeple. We have to raise their levels of awareness and discernment. "We the People" outnumber the establishment politicians, we outnumber the police state and their minions, we outnumber the wealthy corporate elite, we outnumber the corporate media and their propaganda mouthpieces, we outnumber the criminals in our shadow government, We the People have spoken and we are taking action. Get the word out and hit the streets. A revolution is brewing and I for one am going to ride the crest of the wave. See you on the streets!
__Anasazi James
Austin, TX.
anasazijames@yahoo.com
Good Morning everyone!
I have to ask for some help - TN is in serious need of help! I went to a local Democratic meeting yesterday and came away dismayed - should I give up - I see little hope here for the West end of TN - (I have my doubts for this state anyway-but beyond that) this can shake the most steadfast Democratic heart!
There are 2 Dems running in races here that are going away and no attention - don't even ask me where the funds are from the
TN Democratic Party,
or who's getting them (Harold I'm sure) and I believe they have a very new look to THEIR WEBSITE, but these guys need serious help.
National figure Harold Ford Jr.'s vacated seat was won in the primary by Steve Cohen. Harold Ford Jr. has yet to endorse him. Steve ran with a total of 15 for the primary, he won; his district has of course a large ethnic factor. Steve is white and he ran and got 20% of the African-American vote and he won. There were maybe only 2-3 White's running in this primary. His major contenders were African-American. So he really did outstanding to win this primary which historically has been a Ford seat. Also his major contender has not endorsed his win and I don't think any of the others (African-American) have either, "she had close to a million dollars for her campaign and I only had about $300,000 for mine", he said yesterday at the meeting.
There are some major sour grapes going on here, by the losers who contend that the seat should be African American!
Anyway - now throw in the fact that Harold's Cousin Jake Ford is running as an independent but is doing the Lieberman 2 step but I would really be Democrat and I would be with the Democrat caucus.
Bah Hum Bug, Then run on a Democrat ticket and take the seat fairly, have we learned anything from Lieberman - I guess not!
Of course the seat will be in serious jeopardy of going Republican!
Now we have number 2 issue – please bare with me!
Bill Morrison is running for District 7 against none other then Marsha Blackburn.
A lot of you have heard of her, I am sure. She is a rising star (she thinks) and is all about the let’s take a trip and get in some of Frist’s and Bush’s photo op moments. (She reminds me of the Catherine Harris type – I can’t do enough for George type).
Mr. Morrison needs help, funds – he has no campaign location, his people are meeting where ever they can and this is September. They need serious help. He needs volunteers and a whole lot of dollars. This is far worse than Lamont, he is a millionaire – Bill Morrison is a teacher.
Harold Ford should be endorsing Steve Cohen and so should all those who ran against him in the Primary and I don't care what their ethnicity is!
Bill Morrison:
http://www.morrisonfortennessee.com/
Steve Cohen:
http://cohenforcongress.com/
Please post this on any and all places you can think of, we need to help, if we can get the word out, I hope the netroots will pick up on it.
Clinton's sex life was relevant because he was screwing fat girls
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. It's alright to be a "queer", just so long as you're a "Republican queer". Just like how you consider it alright to be a pedophile, just so long as you're a Republican pedphile. But if you're a Democrat, oh, well then you'll never shut-up about it. Right silly Sally? You're one sick puppy, Bud.
Posted by Domingo on September 3, 2006 at 01:23 PM
Sounds lide you are drunk this morning. Are you?
Oh Jeeeezus,
Troll Fest! Ya'll are still going to lose.
Bye!
Suck up Sally*...you're wasting your time Steve. The BushCos don't notice pee on's.
We had to spend 13 years listening to these Repug jerks go on and on about Clinton's sex life, Sally has been talking about on this blog non-stop for three years, then he says, "republican's sex lifes are not news-worthy". Neither is the Democrat's, moron. That's what we've been trying to tell you all this time, fool.
Old Farts Club
The Architect describes the relationship of Louis and his long time friend, Joseph Koons. "Joseph Koons had been living openly as a gay man throughout his adult life, but Louis Rove had only come out after he'd left his family in Salt Lake City and moved to Southern California," the authors write.
In the book, Koons recounts how he and the elder Rove began to cruise the scene in Palm Springs, looking to make friends with older gay men, eventually forming a social club they dubbed the "Old Farts Club."
"The men met every Friday, usually at the Rainbow Cactus Restaurant or the Martinie Burger, to eat, drink, and socialize," of the book says.
Raw Story
Troll Fest! Ya'll are still going to lose. Posted by FreedomOfSpeech
If you think this is a "Troll Fest", then you don't know what a "Troll Fest" is. You shoudda been here about four days ago on the first anniversary of the Katrina flooding of New Orleans. The blog was just thick with 'em all trying to defend Bush. We had more trolls on here than we had Democrats. It took a lot of work to run the f**kers out, too.
Two most important issues for '06:
The Economy; a little more "chicken" in the working mans pot. The CEO/CFO can do with just his fair share. Give Labor it's fair share.
Iraq Occupation: You don't fight terrorist with tanks and planes. You do it with good police work. (but then who makes money from police work?)(maybe Carlyle Group can start making sherif's badges)
We had to spend 13 years listening to these Repug jerks go on and on about Clinton's sex life, Sally has been talking about on this blog non-stop for three years, then he says, "republican's sex lifes are not news-worthy". Neither is the Democrat's, moron. That's what we've been trying to tell you all this time, fool.
Posted by Domingo on September 3, 2006 at 01:47 PM
I don't know if we are talking about a Republican or a Democrats sex life. I was talking about Karl Rove's step father. Do you have information that he was a Republican. I don't.
I don't care to hear about Howie Dean's step fathers perversions and I am simply wondering why you are interested in Karl Rove's stepfather's perversion.
Clinton was President and an alleged rapist. Is rape a part of his sex life that should remain private? Clinton paid Paula Jones $750,000 because he took his pants off to show her his weenie and she didn't want to see it. Is that a part of his sex life that should remain private?
your wrong sally. kkk karl has made himself better known that his idiot boss...and convinced the country he is the brains of the operation...when we all know there are no brains to this operation.
saw sanatorium on the tube this morning....he came across as a complete idiot...still looks like he and sally are the only ones hanging on to the "we found wmd, we found wmd!" story.
my guess is casey will crush him at the polls.
Ralph the pee-on. Do you ever get discouraged Steve? You still don't have your medal of freedom?
Bush has violated the Constitution and intrnational laws and treaties and the trolls wish to discuss Bill Clinton's sex life....LOL.
We lose more brave "volunteer" Armed Service Members everyday in Iraq and Afghanistan and the trolls wish to discuss Bill Clinton's sex life.
The trolls should at least consider getting a life of their own before they start discussing someone else's life. They do this because they are running out of ways trying to defend the criminal and corrupt Bush Administration and the equally criminal and corrupt republican rubber stamp Congress.
peace
Posted by wldj on September 3, 2006 at 02:24 PM
Well Duh radio station man/women, you all were discussing Karl Rove's step father's perverted sex life. That is even less relevant than Clinton's weird sexual behavior.
Besides, Domingo is the one who brought Clinton into the discussion.
Posted by dk2 on September 3, 2006 at 01:16 PM
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I wish I could help but,I dont have have that much faith in Southern folk (Dem or Rep).The only reason why I have an ounce of interest in Ford for the Senate Race is because I think he is drop dead gorgeous.As far as the politics go,noone who looks ethnically Black American seeking the White vote (dem or rep)in a Southern state will ever have a real shot at getting on a ticket much less winning unless they are an Uncle Tom sell-Out like Ray Nagin.I'm shocked and awed, though,that despite the racist challenges aka (Famous Southern Hospitality) he faces,Rep. Harold Ford is still not a sell-out Uncle Tom.He has no problem being identified as a Black American Man (keeping my fingers crossed because that's an unpresidented position for a man to take under so much preasure to appeal to the White South).I'm sorry to seem so shallow about this, but I can't help what I see and that's how I see the South.I trust that Ford will make the right choice as it pertains to his replacement,but I have'nt got much faith that the South is all that eager to join the rest of this nation in a little something called "Diversity".As long as they keep themselves trapped in that old 1950's state of mind they will never have a real election and they will never judge candidates based on their qualifications.We have to wait till that highly anticipated 2050 to see any real diversity come out of the South with respect to politics.We lucked out with Clinton because he was a liberal babyboomer,but ummmmmmmm yeah.That was an awesome term.Oh,and there's John Edwards who seems to have grasped MLK's dream because he grew up having to see that injustice right up in his face everyday and it actually bothered him (There is a Gawd).I can't think of any more Southerners alive and in my generation that I would say I trust.So,I'm not certain if you can get the help you're seeking with respect to the Tennessee Democratic Party because they refuse to accept the kind help they really need in order to be effective.
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Bush the "War President" went awol from the national guard during the Viet Nam War and short changes our brave veterans every chance he gets. He is a liar and an immoral leader who claims moral superiority because he "believes" he is working "god's will". What a joke and how insulting his statements about his "faith" show how insensitive and abusive he is towards people of faith of which I'm not.
Reguardless of that he refuses to admit mistakes and blames all his failed policies on everyone but himself and his Administration, unless they can somehow throw someone under the bus to aviod taking responsibility for his actions.
Military tribunals have been declared un Constitutional, The nsa wiretapping has been declared un Constitutional yet Bush continues to break the law and violate the Constitution. Cheney and Rumsfeld claim that critics of their failed foreign policies are cowards and fascist sympathisers but they never served in combat at least, Rumsfeld was in the Navy back in the stone age and Cheney ran and hid. They're the cowards and fascist sympathisers not their critics.
I've never been called a dj before those are just my initials...lol
Besides, Domingo is the one who brought Clinton into the discussion.
Now the liar is going to say, "I never brought up Clinton's sex life. Domingo did!" See what kind of lying scum these Republicans are?
"WLDJ" sounds like the call letters for a radio station. That's why I called you radio man/woman.
dk2,
Just in case I didn't make myself clear in that last post.The help you are asking for (from the netroots like they did for Lamont by raising cash) the Southern Tennessee Democratic Party is unable to accept.You're not going to get the likes of Daily Kos bending over backwards to help a Southern State who openly and actively refuses to incorporate diversity within it's party.Ned Lamont took a very strong stand on several core values within the Democratic Party and because he did so,there were more people available to him because they are effected by the values that he stands for.Therefore, they are more willing to "hook a brutha up" if you will.In other words,if you have Conservative Democrat Sell-Out Southernors seeking help from the (highly Progressive) netroots who don't support Abortion, Gay Rights and Affirmative Action,then, don't expect that "Liberal" Netroots to give you money.You're not capeable of reciving the help of the netroots because you're not willing to accept the people you're asking money from.Does that make sense? It's just an analogy.I don't mean "you" specifically.
They say they got the "Number two man" again. How many "Number two men" does that make by now, a hundred?
Now the liar is going to say, "I never brought up Clinton's sex life. Domingo did!" See what kind of lying scum these Republicans are?
Posted by Domingo on September 3, 2006 at 02:57 PM
I never mentioned Clinton til you brought him up, you brought him up when I wasn't even here. You are the liar here. Read it and weep:
So Karl Rove's step father was a queer. Not his father but his step father. Someone please tell me why that is newsworthy or good for Democrats. Posted by RalphCrandon on September 3, 2006 at 01:27 AM
I see nutty Sally was on last night asking why Republican's sex lives are "newsworthy for Dems". I'd like to know why Clinton's sex has been so "newsworthy for him", for years and years. Oh, I get it, Repugs want to talk about our side's sex life, but don't want Dems to talk about their side's sex life. Why such a deal!
Posted by Domingo on September 3, 2006 at 12:25 PM
Liar, Liar pants on fire - your nose is longer than a telephone wire. nanny nanny boo boo!
Our President George Walker Bush was an officer and pilot in the National Guard. Imagine how many young kids grow up dreaming of becoming just that!
GWB had this handed to him and he threw it away refusing to take a mandatory physical examination. He took his militarily trained pilot's liscense and tossed it away to aviod embarrassment, he had to know he would fail the test, no one serious about flying gives that up without a fight. Defend that!
I'm tired of the lies and the manipulation and violations of Federal and International Laws. Bush is a greater danger to our society than anything any terrorist anywhere can do to us.
Impeach, prosecute and remove the Bush Team from office in 07.
peace
You are invited to a party to support the re-election in 2006 of Washington Senator Maria Cantwell, straight from our great Pacific Northwest to New York City, as she stands with us in our national battle for a deep and beautiful blue Senate.
With Special Guest Speakers Sen. Chuck Schumer, Chair of the DSCC and the Hon. Christine Quinn, Speaker of the New York City Council
Senator Cantwell:
Co-sponsored The “Clean Money, Clean Elections Act”
Said Yes to federal funding for stem cell research
Said No to the “Trifecta Bill” (which threatened a $5-an-hour pay cut for Washington’s minimum-wage tip workers)
Said No to oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge
Was designated “Environmental Hero” by the League of Conservation Voters
Supports Net Neutrality
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Please note - We will be live-blogging this event.
Come join us as we celebrate the hopeful beginning of a new season for the Democratic Party.
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They say they got the "Number two man" again. How many "Number two men" does that make by now, a hundred?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14647177/
Posted by Domingo on September 3, 2006 at 03:05 PM
When they catch a number two, he is replaced with a new number two and then our guys catch him. The new number two being always less qualified than the former.
They are all number 2's to me as in "I have to go number 2 teacher"
Somebody needs to lock this nut-ball up in a padded cell. Pay attention folks, just so you know, these are the kinds of people that vote Republican. And they think we should listen to their point of view? No thanks. We don't need advice from nuts.
Good Labor Day Sunday to All,
Have my regular Sunday diary, Tour NC With Me up at DailyKos and MyDD, originally posted (with better pics) at bluenc. Was wondering if any here would mind coming over and giving me a little love!
Hope you all have great weekends.
One Year ago this week, Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans head on (August 29th), and two days later (August 31st), the 17th Street Canel levee breached causing the 9th Ward and 80% of the city of New Orleans to flood. Some 1,800 people died. Surely, some from the force of the hurricane—but most from waiting for the flood to subside, or from waiting to be evacuated in water up to (or above their) heads or trying to swim to safety or they parished in the sweltering heat waiting for buses that never came. One year ago this week, America witnessed the biggest butt-scratch by the federal government of any large-scale disaster in recent years. We watched the residents of New Orleans go from citizens to refugees to evacuees to stand-byees as all three levels of government (local, state and federal) did a major Three Stooges “Whoop, Whoop, Whoop.” Moe (Mayor Ray Nagin) banged on the heads of the federal and state officials to “get help down here fast;” Larry (Governor Blanco) ducked as Moe was taking slaps at the state’s slow response—because Nagin didn’t endorse her in the Governor’s race, and Curlie (President Bush) was his usual clue-less self, wondering why Moe was slapping him as the federal government took five days to send aid, food and evacuation help (when clearly from his perspective, “Brownie” [Federal Emergency Management Agency, or FEMA, Director, Michael Brown] was doing a “good job”). At that point, nobody was taking blame for what was obviously a lack of evacuation planning, and a lack of coordinated emergency response to a city in crisis. This butt-scratch was classic.
hey look at what republicans have to do to try to get elected:
NY Times
MOUNTAINSIDE, N.J., Sept. 2 — State Senator Thomas H. Kean Jr., the Republican nominee for United States Senate in New Jersey, says he is so frustrated with the Bush administration’s handling of the war in Iraq that he is pushing for something that few Republicans have supported: the resignation of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld.
In an interview at his campaign headquarters here, just shy of midnight on Friday, Mr. Kean said that he had become dissatisfied over the summer with what he said was Mr. Rumsfeld’s refusal to consider “competing points of view.”
But what compelled him to advocate publicly for a “fresh face” leading the troops, Mr. Kean said, were Mr. Rumsfeld’s recent remarks chiding critics of the war for “moral and intellectual confusion,” and comparing them to those who advocated appeasing Nazi Germany in the 1930’s.
“By engaging in that kind of rhetoric, this secretary has stepped over the line,” Mr. Kean said.
rum, rum, rum away...from the pig
This is all I'm going to say for a bit.
My father spent 26 months in a Red Chinese run North Korean Prison Camp and when Bush defends his treatment and torture of his "enemy combatants" in Iraq and in Cuba he insults my father's service and the reason he went to fight in the first place.
My Dad was "tortured" a great deal more than what Bush did and probably continues to do and that is not the point. Honor and Respect and Freedom is why my dad volenteered. I know many former and current veterans and basically all of them agree torture is wrong, there's no defence for it. Torture doesn't occur on the battlefield just kill or be killed, torture is sadistic and cruel and any "civilized" person knows this to be true.
You don't win the hearts and mind of anyone anywhere by torturing them or occupying their nation you just create more enemies. Diplomacy and open and honest communication and as hard as it is to "believe" Compromise is a better solution than any military confrontation. Force should always be the last choice not pre-emption.
peace and Happy Labor Day tomorrow, myself has to work boo hooo..lol
Wow! NC has more diversity in it's nature than it does the .....okay,I'm going to stop.LOL
Thanks wldj,
Thanks Domingo for that BlkCom. Website.That was awesome.:)
4 Canadian soldiers have been killed and 9 others injured in a battle that also left 200 Taliban militants dead in southern Afghanistan, Brig.-Gen. David Fraser says. Full story:
http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/09/03/afghanistan-taliban.html
Clear Choice
Why is it so difficult for Democrats to state their position? What’s wrong with stating our position as follows: “Get out of Iraq now!”?
We got rid of Saddam. We are no longer wanted there. The country has a chance to rebuild itself if there is no outside interference. A Civil War is regrettable but it is the consequence of the unilateral attack, so now let it happen if it must. Let the UN step in if necessary and if asked. The case for war was dubious at best to begin with (and at worse illegal). In either case it was illegitimate. Now it must end.
Why is this so difficult? Why aren’t the Democrats saying it? Why aren’t the Democrats at least supporting the Murtha position? Where is the problem? If the American voter disagrees, let him/her vote for the alternative, which is to stay the course. Let the voter have a clear choice. If the Democrats lose, Bush gets off with two more years of his folly. There may even be attacks on Iran and Syria by Israel to throw into his legacy.
At least the choice will have been made.
Have a great afternoon everyone and I may or may not be back tonight depending on what type of work load I will have waiting for me at the office.
:O
Bye.
i do not understand why the anniversary of the attacks of 9/11/01 should be a political boost for the dummie and his friends. weren't they in charge of our security when those two jets flew into the trade towers?
Thanks Domingo for that BlkCom. Website.That was awesome.:) Posted by FreedomOfSpeech
Here's another story for ya from there, FreedomOfSpeech.
Who makes the worst Secretary of State? Is it better to have a smooth talking good cop who is still a snake, or a very frightening lover of the Bush doctrine who is utterly incompetent? Condoleezza Rice, Dr. Condoleezza Rice, is multi-lingual, a former provost of a major university, a figure skating champion and a classical pianist. Her bio is clearly that of a very intelligent individual, but the old adage warning against judging books by the cover must be heeded in her case.
http://www.blackcommentator.com/123/123_freedom_rider_condi_and_colin.html
i do not understand why the anniversary of the attacks of 9/11/01 should be a political boost for the dummie and his friends. weren't they in charge of our security when those two jets flew into the trade towers? Posted by gregg
Hey gregg, haven't you heard? This ain't just about WMDs anymore. It ain't about bringing freedom to the poor suffering people of Iraq anymore, either. This is now a titanic stuggle just like WWII was against the Nazis and the cold war aginst communism. Bush's whooppers just keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes by.
Posted by FreedomOfSpeechForProgressiveMajority on September 3, 2006 at 03:03 PM
"In other words,if you have Conservative Democrat Sell-Out Southernors seeking help from the (highly Progressive) netroots who don't support Abortion, Gay Rights and Affirmative Action,then, don't expect that "Liberal" Netroots to give you money.You're not capeable of reciving the help of the netroots because you're not willing to accept the people you're asking money from.Does that make sense? It's just an analogy.I don't mean "you" specifically."
FOS - I can agree with your view, but I also see Harold Ford Jr as a major ride the middle of the alley candidate - and is a major problem in the issue of Tn politics moving forward, he is not that liberal when he sides in his favorite term "bi-Partisianship" with republicans. When have you seen him taking a front to ethinic or gay issues?
Thank you guys i got to see it and boy Dean was on fire today wow. Thanks again.
To WLDJ:
Your Father's sacrafices deserve every possible honor and respect. That does not read, unfortunately, in the Republican national political diorama. The people who handle the reigns of power (notice, I don't say "lead") in America only want props to further their agendas. They want to control the topics, the sound bites, and the camera angles. George Bush will probably never, and certainly not publicly, look a decorated veteran in the eye and ask if he or she agrees with his handling of military matters. That might raise real questions. He might stand against a backdrop of veterans who would never ever talk badly of the fellow servicemembers they stood beside in battle.
HumptyDumpty asked why don't we just say "We want out of Iraq now!" We should be following some course along those lines- how cowardly is it to dump a 5 year war in the next President's lap? And what are we waiting for? That's the only important question. The Iraqi people will have to hammer out their own problems at some point. Our decision is simply how long are we going to keep them from it, with our soldiers dying in the meantime, our Treasury signing all the checks to the no-bid contract holders? We must also take it further and exhume the corpse of Democratic strength and vitality from its shallow, haunted grave so we can hang a new name on it. We will not take blame for 9-11, for cowardice, treason, or comforting the enemy. We must raise high the spectre of Republican machinations, of the greasy immoral manipulation of this great country's heart and soul and life-blood. 9-11 was George W. Bush's mistake. ALL of America is more concerned, more vigilant, more sorrowful because of it. But the Republicans are the ones with all the blood on their hands.
With 9/11 a week away, try and spend some time watching this video. Not only will it bring back the horror of the day, but listening to the experts discuss the explosions, how every bit of evidence was immediately trucked off and shipped to China, how planes do not cause explosions, etc. Some food for thought here.
Well worth the listen.
Turning the party on its head...having to invert the pyramid. Not a bad idea, building a stong base for the pyramid.
NEWS ARTICLE TORONTO SUN
Put boldly and simply, we have to drop a nuclear bomb on Iran.
The Canadian Arab Federation has called for the writer of the previously posted editorial to be fired. FYI.
With 9/11 a week away Posted by PamB
The way we got hit by the trolls 4 days ago on the anniversary of the Katrina, I can only imagine what it's going to be like next week. Get ready for the on slot.
I wish we had some Democrats with the balls to do this. But with so many DLC "Lieberbaby" type Democrats, it's no wonder they can't.
Leftists Block Fox's Final State of the Nation Address
MEXICO CITY — More than 150 shouting leftist legislators stormed the dais at a joint session of Congress on Friday to prevent President Vicente Fox from delivering his final State of the Nation speech, a bold protest that heightened the crisis surrounding Mexico's disputed presidential election.
Fox, wearing his presidential sash as he was blocked from reaching the lectern, handed a copy of his address to congressional officials at a door leading to the legislative chambers as the lawmakers chanted slogans and held signs accusing him of stealing the July 2 election on behalf of conservative candidate Felipe Calderon.
Although such speeches in the chamber have been disrupted in the past by opposition protests, including by Fox before he took power, it is the first time legislators have forced a Mexican president to forgo delivering a State of the Nation address to Congress.
LA Times
good grief!
I haven't blgged for over a month so everywhere I go I have to re-register to get back in. what a hassle. I updated my website. take a tour of my gardens and sing a childhood favorite with me.
www.poetsadiesworld.com
300 tribal leaders want Saddam freed
Washington Post-Los Angeles Times
Baghdad: A coalition of 300 Iraqi tribal leaders have demanded the release of Saddam Hussain so he could reclaim the presidency and also called for armed resistance against US-led coalition forces.
Good evening, all.
Don't know if this was posted already, but I think it explains the situation better than any other article I've seen till now. I did not realize that Al Sadr had this much power...and Al Sistani handed over control...in March? (Or have they inverted the date and it should be 9/3/06.)
Falling into a civil war? It's been full scale for months now. We've been lied to by the Republican administration and the MSM...again.
I no longer have power to save Iraq from civil war, warns Shia leader
By Gethin Chamberlain and Aqeel Hussein in Baghdad
(Filed: 03/09/2006)
The most influential moderate Shia leader in Iraq has abandoned attempts to restrain his followers, admitting that there is nothing he can do to prevent the country sliding towards civil war.
Aides say Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani is angry and disappointed that Shias are ignoring his calls for calm and are switching their allegiance in their thousands to more militant groups which promise protection from Sunni violence and revenge for attacks.
"I will not be a political leader any more," he told aides. "I am only happy to receive questions about religious matters."
It is a devastating blow to the remaining hopes for a peaceful solution in Iraq and spells trouble for British forces, who are based in and around the Shia stronghold of Basra.
The cleric is regarded as the most important Shia religious leader in Iraq and has been a moderating influence since the invasion of 2003. He ended the fighting in Najaf between Muqtada al-Sadr's Mehdi army and American forces in 2004 and was instrumental in persuading the Shia factions to fight the 2005 elections under the single banner of the United Alliance.
However, the extent to which he has become marginalised was demonstrated last week when fighting broke out in Diwaniya between Iraqi soldiers and al-Sadr's Mehdi army. With dozens dead, al-Sistani's appeals for calm were ignored. Instead, the provincial governor had to travel to Najaf to see al-Sadr, who ended the fighting with
one telephone call...
...Even the Iraqi army seems to have accepted that things have changed. First Lieut Jaffar al-Mayahi, an Iraqi National Guard officer, said many soldiers accepted that al-Sadr's Mehdi army was protecting Shias. "When they go to checkpoints and their vehicles are searched, they say they are Mehdi army and they are allowed through. But if we stop Sistani's people we sometimes arrest them and take away their weapons."...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/
news/2006/09/03/wirq03.xml
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Here is a chance to help with the clean up of rivers and lakes. And, you could win a nice hand made wood canoe.
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Posted by Domingo on September 3, 2006 at 04:01 PM
I'm hoping the morons get caught desecrating the whole solemn occasion with their typical lack of respect for both the living and the dead and their suffering.
They never miss a chance to make political gain from a tragedy. That Rocky the FEMA trailer stunt during the anniversary of Katrina was the worst.
To them suffering is something to manipulate and inflict on others. Just look at their handling of Katrina and the four-year-long occupation in Iraq where things just keep on getting worse for the civilians.
The influence of the Christian Right and their interest in Agamemnon has added a sullying dimension to the Republicans' emphasis on using war as the only way to approach world problems. All of us in the West must bear the shame for letting this happen.
While the Islamic world must reign in their renegade wild dogs, so must we in the Christian world.
Gotta go. We're heading to the drive in to see "World Trade Center" and..."Snakes on Planes"? I don't know what they were thinking booking these two together.
later.
Sunny's post about turning the party structure on its head really rings true. If we ran a tighter ship, we would certainly be staying on message (and the messages would be clearer and more thoroughly vetted), and probably doing much better at the polls. Would we still be Democrats? The Republicans figure out a clear, compelling message, and then either fall into lock-step or get beaten into it. Think how depressing it is to always expect SOMETHING from the Log Cabin Republicans. I guess their closets are just bigger and more... rustic But they, like all the others stick to the talking points, ad nauseum, or stay quiet. Their top echelon is leading them over a cliff right now. Some are following. Would most Dems do the same? We have let the true consensus-building, plank-laying, barn-raising raucous caucus big tent party Convention, designed to set out the Party Line become a media circus to ratify the primary-season statements of "our best shot." It was a change born of necessity, but it is dated. The front-runner cannot campaign on one platform, and come out of the convention a different candidate. It will be a bloodbath. We also need to avoid the "losing camp syndrome" that sometimes splinters support. So, we need strong , nationally consistent Democratic values, programs, and agendas, to preserve our diversity and the various capabilities and backgrounds that make us strong and balanced and inclusive. The best defense being a strong offense, I think we need to start by defining ourselves to the American people, and not let others do it for us.
how planes do not cause explosions, etc. Some food for thought here.
Well worth the listen.
Posted by PamB on September 3, 2006 at 05:21 PM
Food for thought all right, but I am not hungry enough to be that dopey.
Airplanes loaded with jet fuel do not explode when they fly into buildings? That has to be comforting to those who have died in airplane explosions.
I hope you try and sell that theory to the voters, try and convince them that they should vote for a party which holds such nutty views.
By now every voter has seen those airplanes fly into those buildings and explode. They will all reject the Republicans when they learn that those airplanes didn't explode because the couldn't have and it was all done by George Bush pushing a secret detonator. And those buildings were destroyed and the people killed to make money for Dick Cheney, Halliburton and WalMart.
As the leader of the Republican party in the US Senate and a possible presidential candidate, Senator Bill Frist of Tennessee has a reputation for sober rectitude. The same cannot be said of his son Jonathan, a Vanderbilt University student who recently appeared on the internet wearing six cans of beer strapped to his belt.
Nor has Jonathan’s brother Bryan done much to help his father’s attempts to strike a reasonable note about US involvement in Iraq. "I was born an American by God’s amazing grace," wrote Bryan Frist in an online profile. "Let’s bomb some people."
Crooks and Liars
Newsweek: Bush Admin. Makes Iranian Pres. More Powerful…
The Year of Living Fearfully
Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has gone from being an obscure and not-so-powerful politician to a central player in the Mideast, simply by goading the United States.
By Fareed Zakaria
Sept. 11, 2006 issue - It's 1938, says the liberal columnist Richard Cohen, evoking images of Hitler's armies massing in the face of an appeasing West. No, no, says Newt Gingrich, the Third World War has already begun. Neoconservatives, who can be counted on to escalate, argue that we're actually in the thick of the Fourth World War. The historian Bernard Lewis warned a few weeks ago that Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, could be planning to annihilate Israel (and perhaps even the United States) on Aug. 22 because it was a significant day for Muslims.
Can everyone please take a deep breath?
To review a bit of history: in 1938, Adolf Hitler launched what became a world war not merely because he was evil but because he was in complete control of the strongest country on the planet. At the time, Germany had the world's second largest industrial base and its mightiest army. (The American economy was bigger, but in 1938 its army was smaller than that of Finland.) This is not remotely comparable with the situation today.
Iran does not even rank among the top 20 economies in the world. The Pentagon's budget this year is more than double Iran's total gross domestic product ($181 billion, in official exchange-rate terms). America's annual defense outlay is more than 100 times Iran's. Tehran's nuclear ambitions are real and dangerous, but its program is not nearly as advanced as is often implied. Most serious estimates suggest that Iran would need between five and 10 years to achieve even a modest, North Korea-type, nuclear capacity [...]
Editor's Cut
Katrina vanden Heuvel
CEO's in the oil and defense industries are making out like profiteering bandits. Wages for American workers are declining while their productivity is rising. Recent polls show that workers feel pessimistic about their economic prospects. And a new US Census Report reveals growing poverty, especially among children.
Happy Labor Day.
I see not much activety going on tonight. Here is something interesting for you foreign policy buffs out there. Former Iranian president Khatmani was granted a visa to visit the US. Khatmani was the reformist minded President that lost in Irans last election.
Ex-Iranian President Mohammad Khatami has delivered a scathing criticism of US foreign policy to an annual gathering of Muslims in Illinois.
Say what you will about Frist, but his kid's beer belt is actually pretty cool.
Well, FC...I don't really know about the KKKristian "do as I say, not as I do" hypocracy, but unless young Jonathan Frist was held back a few years, a College freshman in 2005 ain't exactly of LEGAL AGE, right?
Frist has been married to his wife, Karyn, whom he met at a Boston emergency hospital, since 1982. They have three sons; Harrison, Jonathan, and Bryan. As of 2005, Harrison is a senior at Princeton University, Jonathan is a freshman at Vanderbilt University, and Bryan is a senior at St. Albans School in Washington, D.C., planning to attend Princeton University. The Frist family are members of the National Presbyterian Church in Washington, D.C..
Look under the heading "Personal Life"
(How long will it take for the Heritage Institute interns to scrub this info?)
Just heard on the news that gas prices are dropping. This is such an obvious repug election farce that I feel I could puke. On November 8, 2006, prices will spike to $4.00 a gallon overnight.
How about this ABC propaganda program about Clinton being responsible for 9/11. If this airs I will again puke. This is also a transparent repug trick. They came out solidly against the Democrats when one of ours brought out the truth about bush's national guard AWOL and they fired the CBS newscaster. If they don't fire the person who brought out this ABC crap then we need to make sure ABC goes down.
My count is over 20 Americans died this week in Iraq. When are that bastard bush going to start talking to us for a change and get his shit together and get us out of Iraq. That arrogant SOB will kill us all yet. First though he has to destroy America as an added prize.
Last week bush went all over the country for non-political speeches. What a load of crap.
If repugs are dumb enough to still vote for the SOB repugs in November then they are dumber than we think or their memories are shorter than their peters.
Read: 'Cutting Through the Bush Smokescreen' by the Lonely Professor:
I think that the American people will eventually accept 'failure' in Iraq, especially once they've realized that the price has been too high.
The sooner the country 'wakes up' and 'comes to its senses, the better!'
Read: 'Cutting Through the Bush Smokescreen' by 'the Lonely Professor'!
****READ****
'CUTTING THROUGH THE BUSH SMOKESCREEN'
by 'the Lonely Professor'.
I remember right before the last presidential election, a terrorist video tape was supposedly released by terrorists to the public saying more American blood would be spilled on American soil. I now find it pretty hard to believe that was a coincidence.
Who knows if it was totally staged or if they had uncovered one they waited to release until later.
I think the GOP may try to pull a similar stunt right before the elections again.
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