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To the Republican and Democratic National Committees:
Stop it. Stop spewing hate and misinformation. Your tactics are sophomoric at best and do not work anymore.
Get a clue. We know what you are saying is utter shit. We are tired of your histrionics, of your prepackaged pabulum. We are tired of the lies.
The facts are what counts. The Truth is what counts. If you don't have the Courage to deliver these then go to hell, or at least get off the airwaves and out of my mailbox.
You are all an embarrassment to this country. Shame on you. Slime.
Good interview with Dean on Franken's show. Always good to hear from him.
The GOP is terrified and nothing motivates like fear.
From the GOP Web site:
"October 26, 2006: Donald Lambro writes in this morning’s Washington Times “the 2006 elections could turn on one final, frantic, door-to-door battle: who wins the voter turnout game. A little more than a week before voters decide who will control Congress next year, that game is played out in a half-dozen battleground Senate races and 40 to 50 closely-contested House elections across the country. …many contests appear close enough where turnout could make the crucial difference. …No one doubts who has the stronger voter turnout ground game: the Republicans.”
We need our grassroots volunteers now more than ever. If you are not already signed up to be a 72-hour volunteer, you can do so here. Please encourage friends and family to be a part of this crucial effort."
Dems need to get going!
wearenotstupid, betcha you had to post that here because the RNC makes it next to impossible to post on their blog...much like getting into a RNC fundraiser.
Posted by AaronM on October 26, 2006 at 05:35 PM
AaronM,
Isn't that what our military is testing right now?
It's obvious that the Iraqi militias are rapidly grabbing power and trying to consolidate as much territory as they can. Shiites militias in the South are fighting each other. Sunni and Shiites are at it farther north. And then Shiites and Sunnis are both fighting Kurds in the North.
It may be too late for the current military operations to get a fair test...if we had only stopped the looting in the first days and established some order from the start. Oh, well.
We need to approach the militias who are obviously running the show not the current government. The military knows who the players are and could negotiate with them to meet over a table as well as over guns. They have worked with them to free kidnapped victims.
But what will be discussed at that table? Instead of running around the world threatening people who already have nuclear capabilities, Condi should be working on the diplomatic front to find Sunni and Shiite sponsors for each faction. We may still be able to fulfill that role for the Kurds.
These sponsors could exert some pressure for a political solution and offer guidance. Russia and China served that role in Korea and Vietnam.
I just can't see any military solution to this. Unless those fighting want to stop, it won't happen. Right now they have no other recourse.
Posted by SandyH on October 26, 2006 at 06:52 PM
Cheney endorses simulated drowning
Says use of water boarding to get terrorist intelligence is ‘no brainer’.
And I have no doubt Cheney endorses this also.
Judge Orders Release of Abu Ghraib Child Rape Photos
Who Wants to Start a Pool?
Who wants to start a pool which wingnut will be the first to chime in on this latest tectonic upheaval for the GOP in the final two weeks of the election by calling it "playful hazing like we see in high school locker rooms"?
My money's on Brit Hume. Who else is in?
Welcome to Pottersville
Iraqi PM sees peace in 6 months - if U.S. cooperates
...so all along we were the ones getting in the way of the love....who knew?
I guess Cheney never played Uncle. Remember that childrens game in which one child would force another to say uncle or to make some statement that they would not otherwise have said? Any person with knowledge of that game knows that torture can lead men and women to say just about anything, true or not.
We've also lost the ability to prosecute the 20th hijacker as a result of these tactics. Prosecuters apparently feel that the tactics used in extracting information from him have made the case unprosecutable.
That's why Cheney wants to do it. To force them to say what he wants them to say. He's not after the truth.
What is the new Democratic Party 1 liner? I thought it was "It's Time for a Change" but someone said it's not it. Does anyone know? I just read it - something that Nacy P said the other day but I can't remember it...
We want to use it in a newspaper ad...
Kathy,
Having someone give any direction would be a nice change.
Janitor’s secret past: a death squad
A former Salvadoran army officer convicted of killing priests is arrested in L.A.
Gonzalo Guevara Cerritos was a decorated, American-trained officer in the Salvadoran army.
But for the last year, the 43-year-old toiled as a janitor at a West Los Angeles-area motel, a man with a secret who was always looking over his shoulder, his girlfriend said.
His clandestine existence came to an end Wednesday, when federal authorities announced that they had arrested him as an illegal immigrant who was a human rights violator.
The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency said Guevara Cerritos was one of nine Salvadoran officers and soldiers implicated in one of the most notorious massacres in El Salvador's history: the 1989 death squad murders of six Jesuit priests whom some in the army viewed as subversives.
LA Times
Here's my suggestion for a Dem ad on Gay marriage:
Scene opens with men in full combat gear breaking into a suburban bedroom shouting, "FBI! FBI! FBI!"
One of the agents steps forward and barks at the husband: "Sir, we've had a report that you are engaged in a homosexual marriage."
The husband looks thunderstruck.
Another highly macho officer of indeterminate sex steps forward and grabs the the very petite and very feminine wife, then yanks her out of bed. The officer snarls, "Come with me honey we need to check."
Cut away from the scene to the words, "DON"T LET IT COME TO THIS!"
The next frame says, "Last year Republicans voted for Federal authority over YOUR marriage, Democrats opposed it."
The ad closes by saying, "For hundreds of years in America marriage has been the prerogative of churches and the states. Do we really want to stop that now and let people like this make the decisions on the institution of marriage?"
Cut to pictures of Mark Foley and Dennis Hastert.
Finally, "Vote Democratic on November 7. The stakes may be close to home."
I'm tired of people talking about the Gay Marriage ban as if it was only about Gays. It was also about marriage and we need to remind to the voters.
PS: If you think the above scenario is a stretch, look what happened when the Federal Government was given the authority to enforce anti-polygamy laws, also an aspect of marriage.
will you take the red pill or the blue pill...
Watch this-
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198&q=freedomtofascism
wearenotstupid, betcha you had to post that here because the RNC makes it next to impossible to post on their blog...much like getting into a RNC fundraiser.
Posted by Kristen on October 26, 2006 at 06:47 PM
Good evening
Have you ever tried to post on the RNC blog? You're just as soon as be trying to catch the wind in your hand to hold. More like an endurance test with all the steps involved.
Posted by AmericanPericles on October 26, 2006 at 07:50 PM
So how does ths story come out? Is the very petite and very feminine wife a woman or a really cute fairy?
get ready...it's coming...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198&q=freedomtofascism
Here are the people! This thread has/had more activity - Sound Science, Stem Cell Research and 2006. Found a couple of trolls but alas they are gone now - wrote a great response #43 that no one saw. Sigh. These are trolls: Wteach / jonhn
This is going to be BIG news - mainly because it is easily digestible. The MSNBC blog on Rush/Fox exchange has 65 pages of entries - almost all Dem friendly. The new turncoat, David Kuo, was interviewed his afternoon. http://video.msn.com/v/us/fv/msnbc/fv.htm??f=00&g=4fecf79a-bfd2-4999-a83a-11ee21c1c691&p=hotvideo_m_edpicks&t=m5&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15408508/&fg=He is asking Republician PASTORS to denounce Rush. WE COULDN'T BUY THIS KIND OF PUBLICITY. Excellent video!!!!
This is even better than Foley - and Mahoney is leading in polls and newspapers.
"Cheney endorses simulated drowning
Says use of water boarding to get terrorist intelligence is ‘no brainer’.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15433467/
Posted by Domingo on October 26, 2006 at 07:01 PM"
Simulated? You mean it is stopped short of being fatal? You mean the fear and resulting high blood pressure doesn't cause a stroke? Provide the true details and even a fool will know that it is torture.
The Lord knows them by their works. And so should we.
The NAACP has officially asked that the tasteless ignorant ads by the RNC be pulled from the airwaves in the TN Ford/Corker race.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061026/ap_on_el_se/tennessee_senate_race_3
Posted by FrostyMacCowpie on October 26, 2006 at 07:59 PM
Do you guys have a gay alarm on the computer? No matter what you are doing...taking a shower, eating tacos, or writing out a check to the Santorum campaign, just on word mentioned about gays and here you are.
I want one of those alarms that works everytime Cheney tells another lie somewhere in the country.
Denimblue, this article explains how 'water-boarding' works.
Cheney confirms that detainees were subjected to water-boarding.
SandyH, he always wants to talk about that subject, doesn't he?
As I stated last night our own legislature is having it's own trials and tribulations with a member that is being asked to resign because of racial slurs he has made.
Funny thing, when folks in the political arena are caught in a wrongdoing effort the first thing they run and blame for their behavior is "alcohol". The accused state legislator left racial slurs and threats on the answering machine of another state legislator (Hispanic) and while in the process also called the Superientendent of Dade County schools the "n" word. This guy decided to do it up with a bang! So now he states that he is in anger management and alcohol counseling and in the meantime the DEMS in the state legislature have stated that they will refuse to seat in the next session if this man does not resign or is not expelled.
It's hot here. Stay tuned for the next development.
Oh yeah here's the link to that last post. Keep forgetting.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/miami/sfl-carza26oct26,0,4731436.story?coll=sfla-news-miami
I continue to be appalled at what this misadministration stands for. I can't imagine how water boarding is not considered torture. Fear has been used to change this country into quivering cowards who think the government taking away rights will protect us.
Everyone in the US has a much better chance of being killed or injured by a car accident or a local red-neck than being harmed by a terrorist.
waterboarding is a crime of war- japanese who engaged in this tactic were prosecuted for this form of torture after world war II
evening dems
palme case just keeps giving...drip, drip,drip:
Memory expert taken to task in Libby hearing
Special counsel causes witness to question her own research
By Joel Seidman
Producer
NBC News
Updated: 4:55 p.m. ET Oct 26, 2006
WASHINGTON - A key to the defense strategy for Vice President Cheney's former chief of staff, I Lewis "Scooter" Libby - that the pressure of his job at the White House caused Libby to "misremember" conversations about Valerie Plame to reporters - was put in question today during a pre-trial hearing on whether a memory expert would be admitted to testify on Libby's behalf.
Libby's lawyers contend that issues of memory, including how memory works and why it fails, will be crucial to the jury's determination of Libby's guilt or innocence.
Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald vigorously cross-examined Dr. Elizabeth Loftus, a memory expert and defense witness at the procedural hearing...
...Perception of guilt or innocence
Fitzgerald's blistering, nearly three-hour, questioning of Loftus caused her to admit that some of her own findings about what juries know about memory were faulty and that some of her own research may have been flawed...
...Quoting from her own book "Witness for the Defense," Fitzgerald also confronted Loftus about how she might sway a jury if called to testify at trial. She had written that, "using my arsenal of subtle psychological tools" Loftus could make an impression on a jury about her perception about guilt or innocence...
...Fitzgerald says a memory expert would be, "confusing, misleading and prejudicial," and would unnecessarily delay the proceedings. Today's witness also admitted that there have been no studies conducted on how memory effects past conversations.
Libby's trial is scheduled to begin on January 15, 2007.
...after the elections libby is going down, and when his time comes to look at federal time and bush doesn't use any of his remaining political capital in pardoning him he might flip on karl and dick....
front page story in the enquirer today- this isn't the first time that this woman from the mason school board has been in the news- seems she spends more time stirring up phony controversies about how the poor christians are so put upon than actually doing her job- or so it would seem:
Sharon Poe and Mason School Board Member Jennifer Miller said public schools like Mason High School are forcing Christianity out of the hallways.
Examples they give include the fact that Easter break is now called Spring break.
And nativity scenes are also not allowed on school grounds.
"Black sounding" name. Posted by Domingo on October 25, 2006 at 11:08 PM
You would probably be surprised to know that many, many blacks stay away from ethnic sounding names for that very reason. Makes it more difficult to peg out just who and what the person is. I myself was not pleased when my daughter named my new grandson "Malik". Rates right up there with Jamal and Jaquan. He will have to fight the preconceived ideas of others from pre-k onward. Posted by J on October 26, 2006 at 09:05 AM
J, about a month ago I watched this 20/20 show they did on this study about White and Black names. They took a bunch of little kids and asked them questions like, "Who do you think is smarter, Susan or Suana?" and they all answered Susan! And they asked, "If your lunch money was missing, who do you think stole it, John, or Jamal?" and in a flash the kids answered "Jamal!", and the questions went on and on like that. Every good trait was matched with the White name, and every bad trait was matched with the Black one. Now that's just with little kids. To give an example of how this works later in life, I saw this other show a few years ago that showed how if a company receives a job resume with a "Black name" on it, it goes straight on the trash can. But if it has a name like Mary or Debbie, they will keep it. The prejudice is out there, and it's taught at a very young age.
Please see 8:08 post - with video link. Does anyone else think this is as big a thing as I think it is?
The new Repub turncoat, David Kuo, was interviewed this afternoon. He is asking Republician PASTORS to denounce Rush, as well as telling the Evangelicals how the Admin laughs at them in his new book promo tour. This is great stuff because the guy is so credible.
I think it's much bigger than water torture news. If we had secret prisons for years, sure we tortured them. Does it really matter how? Torture is torture. Of course, Cheney approved. No surprise there. He shoots people, remember?
Also, Jefro - according to new BBC documentaries about Auschwitz - OVER 90% OF THE GUARDS THERE WERE NEVER PUNISHED AT ALL. That really surprised me. One is now a judge. A very few are ever prosecuted for war crimes - almost none of the German Army and SS were. Easier to stop the war crimes in progres than prosecute later.
If your lunch money was missing, who do you think stole it, John, or Jamal?" and in a flash the kids answered "Jamal!", and the questions went on and on like that. Every good trait was matched with the White name, and every bad trait was matched with the Black one.
Posted by Domingo on October 26, 2006 at 09:04 PM
Perhaps their answers reflected their real life experiences.
What is shown on the photographs and videos from Abu Ghraib prison that the Pentagon has blocked from release? One clue: Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld told Congress last year, after viewing a large cache of unreleased images, "I mean, I looked at them last night, and they're hard to believe." They show acts "that can only be described as blatantly sadistic, cruel and inhumane," he added.
Just the way those two torture lov'in freaks, Bush and Cheney like it.
to FrostyMacCowpie - do you ever say anything constructive or informative, or is it against your religion? My lunch money was stolen by John, not Jamal...
Some Irish I know are peed off that you're using the Mac part of their name
US preparing to try 60 to 80 detainees at Gitmo: official
by Jim Mannion Thu Oct 26, 4:27 AM ET
GUANTANAMO BAY, CUBA (AFP) - The United States is laying plans to try 60 to 80 Al-Qaeda and Taliban suspects for war crimes at this remote naval base starting as early as mid 2007, senior US defense officials said....
//news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061026/pl_afp/usattacks
guantanamojustice_061026081457
I wonder what will be the charges...or do we and the defendants ever get to find out? Much less find out what evidence they have against them?
I'd really like to know how Bin Lauden set into motion the 9/11 attacks. I hope some of those charged are really among those that planned it. If these guys turn out to be just limo drivers or goat herders turned Taliban freedom fighters, I'm going to be suspicious of any of the charges.
With Bush and Gonzales tap dancing all around our customary judicial practices, we have a right to be skeptical. Next summer? Why is this taking so long?
Some Irish I know are peed off that you're using the Mac part of their name
Posted by Piesmasher on October 26, 2006 at 09:18 PM
Mac is Scottish.
What Cowshyt says is never constructive, informs wrongly and insults everyone. Cowshyt is something less than nothing.
Sandy H -
Why is it taking so long to prosecute? Next summer - 2007 - won't affect the election cycle. It's the only time they can do it and not have to pay for it with votes.
If I was O'Cowpie, that would be Irish. I'll try that next time.
Good evening, everyone.
I have my cystal ball out.
Election troubles foreseen
Cowshyt is something less than nothing.
Posted by Piesmasher on October 26, 2006 at 09:22 PM
Cowpies are a very valuable commodity. That is what you get when you order "black dirt".
and I can tell you that the vendors are pushing boards to "lease for the big day" as many optical scanners that they want...for $750 each, that is. HAVA less budget, all the time.
Blackwell Rules Out Scanning Absentee Ballots Early
County election boards facing a surge in absentee ballots from voters concerned about polling-place lines and problems were warned by the state Wednesday against counting or even computer-scanning absentee votes before Election Day.
that asshole pitcher from st. louis who is gonna go on the tube against stem cell research is getting hit pretty good tonite...detroit is up 3-0...hope they rock his republican ass all night long.
That is what you get when you order "black dirt".
Posted by FrostyMacCowpie on October 26, 2006 at 09:26 PM
manure...gardners gold.
I rarely post but read the regulars all the time like Gregg / SandyH and all the great bloggers here. I really would like their opinion on this video. 8:08 post repeated. FrostyCowshyt, please be quiet for awhile - go watch this - even you'll like it.
This is going to be BIG news - mainly because it is easily digestible. The MSNBC blog on Rush/Fox exchange has 65 pages of entries - almost all Dem friendly. The new turncoat, David Kuo, was interviewed his afternoon. http://video.msn.com/v/us/fv/msnbc/fv.htm??f=00&g=4fecf79a-bfd2-4999-a83a-11ee21c1c691&p=hotvideo_m_edpicks&t=m5&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15408508/&fg=He
He is asking Republician PASTORS to denounce Rush. WE COULDN'T BUY THIS KIND OF PUBLICITY. Excellent video!!!!
Libby's lawyers contend that issues of memory, including how memory works and why it fails, will be crucial to the jury's determination of Libby's guilt or innocence.
gregg,
Maybe Fitzgerald should bring in an expert on lying, mind games, and just plain BSing?
You can see that Libby's lawyers are going to try to wear down the jury with a bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with the actual case.
So this is one of the tricks that rich folks' attorneys like to use to manipulate the system? If I tried this ploy in a typical automobile accident case, the judge would nail me to the wall and throw darts at me.
I loved the "error" in the headline. snicker
Reistered voter list errors might impede some
One of the biggest changes wrought by the Help America Vote Act is the mandate that every state must have a voter registration database up and working by the Nov. 7 general election. But a dozen states missed the Jan. 1 deadline for finishing their databases, which produce lists of registered voters for every precinct. And four states have been sued by the Justice Department.
That leaves a confusing array of systems that may or may not work come Election Day, voting rights groups say. And it creates a growing anxiety that registered voters with every right to cast a ballot will be turned away because their names are not on the list for a variety of reasons, including something as innocuous as a typo.
"No issue is more important on Election Day than the quality of the list," said Doug Chapin of the nonpartisan reform group electionline.org. "Those databases are the final say on whether a person gets to vote."
Posted by FrostyMacCowpie on October 26, 2006 at 09:21 PM
It was Mc the other day. Not sure of your paternity?
sandy, but this is not in front of a jury. this is an argument about whether libby's memory issues will ever get in front of a jury and it looks like they won't in which case he is looking at a felony conviction in which case he may be flipable....
Essy,
I'll be thinking of you and your daughter tomorrow. I'm sure everything will go well.
Wish you didn't have all this last minute election stuff hanging over you...but hey, when things get tought, the tough get going.
I usually want to puke when I read from here, but what the hey! I've got a headache to go with it, so here goes.
Will Ken Blackwell find the ways to steal Ohio 2006 as he did in 2004?
Memory issues? Maybe we should get out the old waterboard and see if that helps jog his memory. We are after all talking about treason.
Thank you, Sandy. Cervical cancer at 21. She's scared, I'm stressed, but not showing it for her sake. At least she will be staying with me for a couple of days. She's so independent, living on her own for 2 years. I think she'll appreciate being taken care of until she's ready to go back to her home. My sister is going out of state this weekend, so I'm to take care of our parents as well.
What doesn't kill us makes us stronger.
Thank you for your kindness.
Time to wash the blonde right into my hair. Enjoy the evening, everyone.
To give an example of how this works later in life, I saw this other show a few years ago that showed how if a company receives a job resume with a "Black name" on it, it goes straight on the trash can. But if it has a name like Mary or Debbie, they will keep it. The prejudice is out there, and it's taught at a very young age.
Posted by Domingo on October 26, 2006 at 09:04 PM
Happens every day in the working world. In private industry those apps can go straight in the trash. Now in government of any kind the app stays in the pile those applying for a particular position, (public record) BUT that doesn't say you get a call to come in for a chat. I know as many others of varying skins shades - built your resume of skills (to expert levels) and experience along with a ton of paper (degrees, certificates, training etc.) behind you. Extracurricular activites such as volunteer service will round out your app so that maybe even if your name is "Quanisha", you just might get a call though not likely.
Sharon Poe and Mason School Board Member Jennifer Miller said public schools like Mason High School are forcing Christianity out of the hallways.
jefro,
Why do I get the feeling Mason Schools will never do too well on the No Child Left Behind scores?
Thank you, Sandy. Cervical cancer at 21. She's scared, I'm stressed, but not showing it for her sake. At least she will be staying with me for a couple of days. She's so independent, living on her own for 2 years. I think she'll appreciate being taken care of until she's ready to go back to her home. My sister is going out of state this weekend, so I'm to take care of our parents as well.
What doesn't kill us makes us stronger.
She'll be alright. I'm a 16 year cancer survivor. As her mother I know you're shedding your tears in private because you are her mother.
It will be alright.
My prayers are with you all. Take care.
Difference between Religious Conservatives and Bush Political Conservatives: Two extreme one of a religious love and another of political hate finger intimidating fear relationship
With the Republican Party being of such high Religious morals, how low can it go to defame a Tennessee Democrat named Ford? This is the same dirty Texas politics that Bush used on McCain in the Carolinas to defame him. Misinformation, lies, and instilling fear in a hate campaign reministent of the Sixties against black politicians. What kind of Religious Conservatism allow this trashy Political Conservative filth.
Posted by SandyH on October 26, 2006 at 08:14 PM
Sandy, your computer would never stop screeching if you had an alarm on it for every time Cheney lied.
"I don't care if I vote for Happy the Clown, just so it's not who's there now," said Mary Nyilas, 51, an independent voter from Cologne, N.J., who said she would do everything she could to "vote against the powers that put us in this situation" in Iraq.
This might be a big opportunity for Frostie. Is it too late to get on the ballot?
What is wrong with these people? I thought they were the champions of the moral majority?
Wyoming congresswoman issues apology
By Associated Press
October 25, 2006
CHEYENNE - Seeking to put an end to an incident that pundits say could tighten an already-close U.S. House race, Rep. Barbara Cubin issued a public apology Tuesday for a comment she made to a disabled Libertarian candidate following a testy debate.
"It was person-to-person and it was not an attack on the disabled," Cubin said in a telephone interview. "In retrospect, I was wrong in what I said, and I apologize."
But Libertarian Thomas Rankin said Cubin hadn't apologized to him personally, and he still considered it an "open issue" until she did.
"Barbara has been a loose cannon too long; she needs to be reined in," he said.
Rankin, who has multiple sclerosis and uses an electric wheelchair, said that after the debate Sunday night Cubin "walked over to me and said, 'If you weren't sitting in that chair, I'd slap you across the face.' "
Rankin, who has multiple sclerosis and uses an electric wheelchair, said that after the debate Sunday night Cubin "walked over to me and said, 'If you weren't sitting in that chair, I'd slap you across the face.' "
Posted by SandyH on October 26, 2006 at 10:29 PM
Well why should she have to apologize for that? Just because someone is in a wheel chair that doesn't make them a wonderful person. Maybe he is a butthole. Maybe he needs slapping.
Mark Foley must have given George Allen a copy of Lost Soldiers.
excellent, that asshole suppon can only get the loss in tonites game, he can't get the win...
Cubin didn't have to apologize, but she did and said that she was wrong. Perhaps Mr. Rankin is, after all, a wonderful person who just happen to take issue with Cubin's opinions. The pugs hate people who disagree with them. Tough s***, I say.
My dear DNC bloggers -
I often come here to read stuff - and know you all by name. This site is not too active anymore, not like after Katrina, so that isn't hard to do. That surprises me, given there's an important election coming and we are actually gaining.
I spent the day on political sites, then came "home" here. I started at 7 pm. Missed the active discussion of Dem issues on the Stem Cell thread, then saw some activity here at 8 pm. I read everyone's entry, and posted some current news I thought was really important. That's why I came - to share new important news relevant to the election now, and to get moral support.
I have been here on this thread for over 3 hours. I responded intelligently to other people's entries, and asked specific bloggers by name for their opinions on my "new news link". Three times I asked. Not one of you responded.
The Cowshyt guy gets overwhelming responses to his 5 year old "gross out" jokes. There are a bunch of personal emails that should be just that, extremely personal and private. It makes a newcomer feel like a voyeur, and very very uncomfortable.
This is the Democratic National Committee site, not a private blog club. This is where we should be building support for the elections. I get much friendlier treatment from MoveOn mass emails than I have by asking MY PARTY for feedback on relevant and current politcal events. At least MoveOn seems to want my support.
And I am a lifelong Democrat who knows the party, the issues, and details of the people who post here. Just think how a newcomer would feel - even more excluded than I do.
I am not surprised that we lost control of the government. We deserved it. The DNC is the INCLUSIVE party, remember? It is time that you all started acting that way again.
DON'T YOU THINK THAT INDEPENDENTS ARE COMING HERE TO MAKE DECISIONS HOW TO VOTE - and these entries are what they find. Here I am begging for feedback and we have cowdung jokes! The Repugs are laughing at us. Thank God for MoveOn - who does the DNC job better than the DNC!
THIS DOES NOT SERVE THE PARTY! You obviously have no interest in real sharing of true democratic values. I found more supporters on MSNBC today than here, and every single Democrat should be embarrassed by that!
Take the private stuff private guys. The old hands (Sandy H, + others) have a responsibilty to respond to the newcomers and keep the discussion at least remotely related to the Democratics. You used to be open to others here - I read the posts. Why are you all acting in your own best self interests 2 weeks before an election, with private jokes, and references that no one else understands, and worse of all medical histories!? Libby's future trial is more important? That's months away Gregg - I have admired your writing for years, and I have to say it is insulting to know you don't bother to read others.
You used to do that. Not anymore. And that is truly sad.
After the election, I will make a point to the DNC bigwigs that this blog stuff isn't working too well. THE ISSUE I RAISED GOT 11,000 COMMENTS IN 2 DAYS AND YOU GUYS WANT TO MAKE JOKES ABOUT COW DUNG AND BLACK NAMES? Yes! That helps the cause!
I won't post any more and will stay off this site until after the elections (way too depressing = cow dung gets the attention here) - so feel free to attack at will if it makes you feel better. You do know what I say is true. Just read the thread above.
And Micjagger - this does not apply to you - you were the only only who bothered to reply - on the other thread. You are one true Democrat! Read my thread there - I make as valuable a contribution, if not more so, than ANY of the stuff posted in this entire thread.
Thank you for your time.
Time to wash the blonde right into my hair. Enjoy the evening, everyone.
Posted by Esmeralda on October 26, 2006 at 09:48 PM
If his eyes get dull and fishy,
When you look for glints and gleams,
Waste no time,
Make a switch,
Drop him in the nearest ditch!
Rub him out of the roll call,
And drum him out of your dreams
Oho! Oho!
thanks for the "south pacific" reference, essie, seems very appropriate to the upcoming pug washing. he he...or as dr. dean would put it...YEE HAA!!
sandy- i don't know about mason schools- it is a northern suburb of cincy- exurb might be more accurate- lower middle class infiltrated by more wealthy who are gobbling up the land to build gated communities- i recall some other articles mentioning this woman where they indicated that others on the school board were not happy with the fact that she is stuck on repeat with her desire to turn the school into some kind of christian camp
Marine pleads guilty in shooting of Iraqi man
By Linda Deutsch
The Associated Press
Maybe he is a butthole. Maybe he needs slapping. Cowpie eater
A lot of "maybes". You always want to convict people on "maybes", doncha? Maybe they have WMDs. Kill 'em! Maybe they're terrass, Torture 'em! They're Black! Maybe they're "lunch money" thieves. Thow 'em in jail without a trail! Yeah. We know your style.
Esme - Prayer to you and your family. Will be thinking of you.
Posted by SharpElbows on October 26, 2006 at 10:57 PM
Your contribution is appreciated and your participation here is valued. This blog is an outlet for all of us to post our opinions. You can rest assured that your post is being read. A majority of posts do not receive a response but it doesn't mean that one is being ignored. Keep posting and expressing your opinions. If someone disagrees with you, you will hear about it, for sure. Glad to have you aboard.
sharpe- i checked out the msnbc twice tonight- the first time the video didn't work for me, the second time i was able to watch it (not long ago)- williams did story on michael fox which i thought was a good piece- i was a little confused, though, because i thought there was going to be video of david kuo regarding the story (based on your comments) and unless i am missed something, there was no video of david kuo- was especially interested because i read his book this past weekend
Posted by gregg on October 26, 2006 at 10:53 PM
gregg,
Locally they ran that rebuttal ad to Michael J. Fox's stem cell ad featuring celebrities/Suppan followed by the ad featuring Sen. Talent giving his expert scientific opinion on clonning.
They just ran a new stem cell ad with former Republican Senator Jack Danforth saying he supports the Cardinals and stem cell research and has high hopes for both of them....how much joy baseball and medical resarch can bring to the lives of our loved ones.
But Danforth seemed very frail...I wonder if he's not in good health? He didn't look that way in the earlier ad with the former State Chief Justice and pediatric doctors that has been running the last week or two.
I hope Limbaugh doesn't jump on this and say he's faking it, too.
Hell, I put links to those Abu Ghraib gang rape photos, and no one said a word about that, not even Cowpie calling it a "good thing". That's the way it goes sometimes.
Yeah. We know your style.
Posted by Domingo on October 26, 2006 at 11:03 PM
Yeah, I know your style to Domingo/Mary - dopey style.
elbows, i made sixty calls phone banking tonite for my candidate. how about you? i think the ongoing plame investigation is relevant to where the republicans find themselves on the eve of a big fall from power, you don't. i am rooting against the guy who is rooting against michael jackson. and if folks want to use this as a venue to discuss private matters so what? i don't think you are anymore aware of what is going on than i am. what the hell do you want? sally is an asshole but the administrators can't get rid of it so it is a sort of off pitch voice in the background. this is what it is.
Posted by SharpElbows on October 26, 2006 at 09:32 PM
Sorry, Sharp. I can't get your link to load. Where did you find it? Maybe I can go directly to the site.
good nite friends. see you in the morning:
By LIZ SIDOTI
Thu Oct 26, 4:01 PM ET
WASHINGTON - Middle-class voters who deserted the Democratic Party a dozen years ago are now giving the party its best chance to reclaim the House since the GOP swept Democrats from power in 1994.
Motivated by anger at President Bush and the Republican-controlled Congress, 56 percent of likely voters said they would vote on Nov. 7 to send a Democrat to the House and 37 percent said they would vote Republican. Voters in the latest Associated Press-AOL News poll rated Iraq and the economy as their top issues.
"I don't care if I vote for Happy the Clown, just so it's not who's there now," said Mary Nyilas, 51, an independent voter from Cologne, N.J., who said she would do everything she could to "vote against the powers that put us in this situation" in Iraq.
Less than two weeks before voters elect a new Congress, the poll showed Republicans are in jeopardy of losing their grip on the House after a dozen years in power. The survey found voters leaning considerably more toward Democrats in the final weeks of the campaign.
In early October, Democrats had a 10 percentage-point advantage when voters were asked whether they would vote for the Democratic or Republican candidate in their congressional district. The Democratic edge is now 19 percentage points.
Sharpelbows,
I don't know if you are still reading or not, but I have two things to say to you, that I have learned here myself.
1) This blog is not going to change the world, as a matter of fact, it is not going to change anything. If you want to make a difference, do what many of the bloggers here are doing: go out and volunteer your time canvassing, making phone calls, and working for your local candidates. Nothing that anyone posts here is going to make that much of a difference. I am sorry that no one responded to your posts, and I am more sorry that they feel obliged to respond to that oozing slime. However, there are times when no one responds to me either--get used to it. Not everyone in the world is always going to be interested in everything you have to say. It is not an insult, just a fact.
2) Many bloggers here spend a great deal of time working for candidates, and they come here to share stories with like minded bloggers. Sometimes conversations are personal, so what? These people have posted for a long time and have gotten to know eachother. It is not a matter of inclusion or exclusion, no one conspires to ignore certain posts. It just so happens that others were caught up in other things besides your topic, and didn't respond. It won't always be like that, but it was tonight.
Here is a tip, if you want to have people talk about your post, try to include a link to a reputable source that supports your topic. That always gets people talking.
"I feel like the Republicans have forgotten the middle class," says Joseph Altland, 73, a retired teacher in York, Pa., who is a registered Republican but says he's considering becoming an independent. He bemoans rising insurance costs and utility bills. "The guys I golf with, we're in the middle class. We're getting hurt."
It seems like a lot of people feel betrayed tonight.
domingo- those photos evinced the expected reaction in me which is utter shock and disgust- so much so, that one has to stop and process for a while-maybe because we've seen so many of them that it is hard to put it all together and yet that is exactly what they demand of us, namely, that we put them together with all of the other sickness that has come out of this administration and party in power
i remember talking with a good friend at the bluegrass festival i attend in the hills of virginia just after the abu ghraib photos started coming out (a stone's throw from breaks interstate park where allen made his macaca remarks)- this friend grew up there- after a few remarks about this latest recognition of how low this administration/party had sunk into depravity and some shared remarks about the other things we had seen over the last year (it was 2004 i seem to recall when those photos first appeared), we both just had to stand there in silence with stone-cold stares of disbelief at what was/is happening to this country under this party and its leaders
Sharpelbows,
I know how you feel. For a while I posted here and it almost seemed that when I posted, everyone left. It seemed no one responded to me. I got over it. It is sort of a personal thing putting your ideas and perspectives out there for all to see. And when you post, you want a response. That's natural. But this is a free flowing forum for ideas. And I think, in general, when people see a new name, they take a "wait-and-see" attitude. You know, to see if it is cow dung using a new name. But we are all reading what you post. Stay with us. Diversity of perspective is valued here. You obviously have passion behind your convictions. That is a good thing.
Hi Sandy, Jefro, Gregg,
What's goin' on? The news was pretty slow today. What do you all think about the "military maneuvers in the gulf thing"
I doubt we are going to see any other October/November surprises, I think we have had enough. This has been a very tough month for our country. 96 dead and counting, the Taleban taking over towns in Afghanistan, North Korea testing a nuke, a plethora of scandals, etc...
I have to admit that I am sort of burned out at this point. I just want this election to be over. I've got a little more canvassing to do and then the GOTV effort. Then, finally a break from politics. I am so glad that I will never have to run for office, what a nightmare!!
See what I mean, Sharpelbows, I come on here and everyone is gone.
Chicago,
What the heck is goin' on with the weather here this year? I live on the north side, and it feels like Christmas here lately not Halloween.
We have also been seeing some crazy rain this year--maybe the apacolypse is coming!
I am concerned about the voting machines and the republican tactics. Call me paranoid, but it seems the only way this election can not result in a huge land-slide for the Democrats is if the republicans steal it. And I think it is important that the Democrats come out and tell EVERYONE early and often that we will be investigating all the polling places, win or lose. We are not going to roll over on this one. When this vote is done, we need to investigate every Republican hack involved in vote stealing and send their sorry butts to prison even if we win. Voters rights are important. Even more important than wether we win or not. Lets make the point now. We do not trust these corrupt republicans. We will investigate the vote.
hey ranger- still here, just doing my usual disappearing act for a bit there- i don't know what to make of the maneuvers- heard a guy (forgetting who- a retired officer from one of the branches of the service) on ed schultz at least a week or so ago saying that he thought this was just a routine exercise, but then today i read several articles talking about more than one carrier group heading for the gulf- have you heard that? there is obviously a great deal of speculation, but then can you blame anyone for that? when it is brought up, of course, the standard response is "they can't do that- they don't have permission to do that"- you know the tune, the problem is, i don't think this crowd cares whether someone might think they are overstepping their bounds by starting another war- i have no reason to believe anything other than they believe they have carte blanche to widen this thing wherever they want and their bloviators in the punditocracy have been egging them on for a while now
Correction: It was Jack Danforth's brother, William Danforth, in that new stem cell ad. I couldn't understand why he looked so much older and frail. William Danforth is Chairman of Washington University. The just played the ad again. Funny how brothers can look so much alike.
jefro and rash - THANKS FOR TELLING ME ABOUT THE LINK. Just spent the last hour researching it again. Hard as hell to find. sorry BUT this IS MSNBC, okay? the url showing when you play the video is not the link to the video itself - it took me forever to find it and I have now checked it 3 times - and emailed it to myself = still wrong. IT IS NOT ME, BUT THEM. SORRY!!! they play in rotation and don't give the actual url. You can't find it on their own search and it is not listed on the websites lists - I have looked. I found it after hours of searching the Rush fiasco.
THIS IS THE ONLY WAY I CAN GET YOU TO THE LINK - CHECK THIS LINK (SAME AS POSTED ABOVE).
http://video.msn.com/v/us/fv/msnbc/fv.htm??f=00&g=4fecf79a-bfd2-4999-a83a-11ee21c1c691&p=hotvideo_m_edpicks&t=m5&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15408508/&fg=He
Choose the MSNBC TV TAB (second from right) - it is the third video down on the right hand side.
the formal title is:
Faith-based fake out?
Oct. 26: Author David Kuo talks to MSNBC-TV's Norah O'Donnell about his new book "Tempting Faith" and weighs in on the controversy surrounding Rush Limbaugh and Michael J. Fox.
No, it does not appear anywhere else on the site if you enter a different way. YOU KNOW THAT THE CHIMP HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS - VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND!!!
IT IS THE BEST THING I HAVE HEARD IN MONTHS AND WAS VERY ENCOURAGING TO HEAR A REPUBLICAN TALK LIKE THIS. Worth the effort to find this sucker, really.
MAYBE SOMEONE MORE TECHIE THAN ME CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THIS - A DOWNLOAD WOULD BE GREAT
Posted by Chicago on October 27, 2006 at 12:08 AM
Good thinking Chicago, it is always best to set up your excuses ahead of time.
ranger,
I don't know what is going on with this weather.
It did get cold fast. I think it is supposed to warm up a little next week. I live West and we still have almost all the leaves on the trees but sub freezing tempuratures. The funny part is watching the uninformed use this as evidence that global warming doesn't exist. Fools are fun to watch.
ranger, you write good stuff. the right wing are all hoping for some sort of disaster to bail them out of the reality that the american people are on to their mindless bullshit. reminds me of when i was in junior high on long island and another shitty report card was coming and i was hoping for some sort of russian invasion force landing in coney island to take my parents minds off the fact that I STILL WAS NOT LIVING UP TO MY POTENTIAL!!
but of course these are adults who are hoping kim will set off another nuke or the fleet will be used to invade iran or the tetonic plates will subduct off the california coast or whatever...today they are all running around screaming about gay marriage like when you wake up in the morning same sex couples will have replaced all your neighbors ( well unless you're in the west village where this happened long ago ) putting little chinese adopted kids on school buses who have super brains and will push your kids out of all the good advanced classes in the local elementary school...but it may just not work out for the wackos and they may actually have to PAY THE GODDAM PIPER..we shall see.
Posted by ranger995 on October 26, 2006 at 11:55 PM
Ranger,
I'm getting pretty burned out, too. Seems like I've been volunteering for months...I guess we all have.
Son, is taking over the computer again.
Good night.
Good thinking Chicago, it is always best to set up your excuses ahead of time.
Posted by FrostyMacCowpie on October 27, 2006 at 12:15 AM
Cow-dung,
Obviously you know nothing about "good thinking".
chicago- ohioans are rightly concerned about attempts to steal this next election- the tactics that have already been implemented are too numerous to mention- speaking of being burned out, i can't keep track of them all- attempting to keep strickland from voting and even off the ballot which was nonsense, the national smear campaign of strickland with the help of hannity and the slime-merchant moron corsi, attempts to keep exit pollers away from the polling sites, story today that blackwell has already thrown out numbers of absentee ballots because there is apparently confusion over which number on the driver's license has to be written on the ballot, just the fact that blackwell is the official in charge of all the charades in his own election for governor- it's enough to make anyone sick especially when you realize that he is at least 20 points in the whole at this point- yes, if the dems lose this one, there really ought to be a national day of protest that doesn't stop until we get to the bottom of the shenanigans
Well, if it is too cold in your area that is probably on account of global warming.
20 points in the hole- maybe what he really needs is 30 days in the hole for deliberate disenfranchisement of ohio voters
Jefro,
Absolutely. And I think it should not matter who wins. We should state now that we are going to investigate this election from A to Z after it is done to find the flaws in the system and determine who is using those flaws to cheat. It is well worth the investment. Let's force the Rethugs to agree to that before they lose. Any of their tactics we can expose this time will reap benefits next time. Votes are important.
Well, if it is too cold in your area that is probably on account of global warming.
Posted by FrostyMacCowpie on October 27, 2006 at 12:22 AM
Thanks for providing evidence to support what I said about fools and global warming.
sharpelbows, it took me a long time to link stuff. this place is my neighborhood bar. the beer is cold the vodka is in the ice box, the crowd in the parking lot is burning some weird smelling shit and its not ok to be a right winger though the occassional one handcuffs itself to the jukebox and gets to stay and if your clean and sober that is ok too as long as you come with some humor or some info...
dnc club house
good nite now, see you all in the morning.
Posted by SandyH on October 26, 2006 at 11:48 PM It seems like a lot of people feel betrayed tonight.
The President thinks real wages have gone up.
"One of the interesting things about our economy that's also important is that as the economy has grown, the real wages for American workers has increased," he said Monday during a meeting with small-business owners. "Last year, it increased by 2.2 percent. That's the largest increase in recent years.
But even Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, while cheerleading for cheap labor economics, acknowledges that real wages are performing about as well as the President's "strategy" in Iraq
Wages and salaries, however, have not performed as well; real wages of production workers, for example, have been essentially flat in the past couple of years. Rapid increases in energy prices are one reason for slow growth in real wages; another is the increasing cost of employer-provided health insurance, which has reduced the share of total compensation taken in the form of take-home pay.
The GOP has lived in an ideological bubble for so long now that it's forgotten that Wall Street is not Main Street, AnyTown USA.
Posted by gregg on October 27, 2006 at 12:27 AM good nite now, see you all in the morning.
Goodnight, Greg
voters in ohio's second district are hoping to send vic wulsin to congress this year- the bad news just keeps piling up for the lackluster, bad-mouthing mean jean- don't let the nasty demanor fool ya, there doesn't appear to be much going on upstairs with this schmidt- she and her campaign tried to suggest that wulsin had broken house rules by airing schmidt's foul tirade against john murtha in a campaign ad, only thing is, vic wulsin is not a member of the house:
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061026/NEWS01/610260378/1056/COL02
oh this happened today. so if you had a 500k house on 8/31/06, on average on 9/30/06 you have a 450k house. but not to worry realtors are saying it will only make it easier to buy! ahhh the willie lomans are everywhere all the time in america aren't they...nite.
U.S. home prices take a tumble
By Jesus Sanchez | 11 a.m.
Median price of new homes in September falls 9.7%, the worst decline in 35 years.
we need a better baton handoff than that dors, triple practices starting next week.
This is great, no one could possibly vote against one of your candidates becuase you are the enlightened ones. So if the other side wins it can only be because they cheated. This of course ignores the evidence that all of the cheaters in the last two elections have been Democrats.
But it is good to atart setting up your excuses ahead of time because it is beginning to look like the Republicans are going to win this election too.
Chicago,
Yes, of course, the cold weather means there is no global warming. Whatever... Just like there were no hurricanes this season, oh wait, there were a lot in the pacific, and China had a category five come ashore...never happened before. Well, thank god New Orleans was spared this year, that place is a disaster zone as it is. The crime rate there is worse than before the storm, and it was pretty bad then.
Jefro,
About the Ohio elections, our very own Esmerelda is always trying to calm our nerves about the problems. She works for the election comission and argues pretty convincingly that it is not as bad as it seems to us. However, I keep reading articles, like Kennedy's, about how screwed up it is.
I am afraid that if the elections are stolen that nobody really cares enough to do anything about it, the ultimate measure of apathy for Americans. We have already stood by and watched habius corpus, and the fourth amendment thrown out the window, so why not proper elections too? As long as the have walmart and fast food no ones cares about democracy. Maybe we should bring these things to Iraq so that they can become fat, lazy, and complacent too. Then the war will end and our military personnel can come home.
We should all really thank George Bush for proving once again that Trickle-down Economics DOES NOT WORK. Can we stop playing with the "voodoo economics" deck and get back to what works...fiscal discipline.
Va. Independent Might Drop Senate Bid
An independent candidate for U.S. Senate said Thursday that she is negotiating with Democrat Jim Webb and Republican Sen. George Allen about withdrawing from the race and backing one of them.
Gail Parker, running a lightly funded campaign focused on a vast expansion of passenger rail systems, is drawing about 2 percent support in recent polls.
But in the close race between Allen and Webb, her withdrawal could determine whether Republicans retain their Senate majority.
Posted by gregg on October 27, 2006 at 12:34 AM we need a better baton handoff than that dors, triple practices starting next week.
Yea right. That's what you say now. When it comes time to practice, you'll say that you're busy with Mary Lou Parsons just like you always do.
ranger- i don't know everyone here as well as i should by now- i am forgetting where she hails from here in this state- i am thinking it might be more rural? there were problems here in cincy too numerous to mention just on the ground in terms of there not being enough voting booths/machines at inner city precincts- a friend that i worked with for several years when i first moved here- african-american living in one of this city's venerable neighborhoods that has seen better days in the home where her family has lived since the '40's- had to wait in line to vote (in the rain, mind you) for over three hours- she was one of the lucky ones who had an employer who understood and permitted her to be late to work in order to perform this important civic duty- many others were ultimately disenfranchised that day in 2004 here in ohio, and with the exception of kenyon college in rural knox county, the bulk of the problems with too few booths were in urban areas that vote overwhelmingly democratic
not only that but i think i have shin splints...got any percoset coach?
now good nite!
Chicago,
On the economy note:
Bush is proving that big government actually helps the economy. If it weren't for defense spending our economy would be completely tanking. If you notice, any good economic indicators--not too many, can all be directly or indirectly tied to our involvement in Iraq. People who would otherwise be jobless are making a lot of money driving trucks, building bases, and record keeping for KBR in Iraq and Afghanistan. If only we could employ them to help rebuild New Orleans--Oh wait, KBR has the contracts for that too, and nothing is getting done while huge amounts of money have been doled out. Just like Iraq. At least when Eisenhower and FDR sponsored large government projects, things got done. Oh well, my property taxes almost doubled this year, because the city has no money for public education, police, fire, and construction projects. All of that so that KBR can get paid to do nothing in Iraq. Boy do I feel good to be an American right now.
But it is good to atart setting up your excuses ahead of time because it is beginning to look like the Republicans are going to win this election too.
Posted by FrostyMacCowpie on October 27, 2006 at 12:34 AM
Reality must appear strange to you if you are ever able to actually behold it.
All the cheaters in the last two elections have been dems???
You make no sense. I said the election should be investigated no matter who wins. But then you are obvioulsy a fool. So keep posting these idiotic comments. It is a great way of demonstrating what most of us have been saying about the republicans. Thanks for providing yourself as a real example to support our arguments.
I said that my predictions were subject to changed. Now that the Republicans are finally getting their machine in gear things are changing and changing fast.
Posted by gregg on October 27, 2006 at 12:35 AM your ever changing predictions
I read Revelations tonight and a commentary from a personal letter written by Padre Pio addressed to the Commission of Heroldsbach appointed by the Vatican which testifies to the truth and reality of these revelations given by Our Lord to Padre Pio, a Capuchin priest who bore the stigmata.
Hurricanes of fire will pour forth from the clouds and spread over the entire Earth! Storms, bad weather, thunderbolts and earthquakes will cover the earth for two days. An uninterrupted rain of fire will take place! It will begin on during a very cold night. All this is to prove that God is the Master of Creation. It says in the year of Eagle
In the year of the Eagle!!
Jefro,
Is there any strategy in place to address those issue this time around?
It seems that the city folk in this country are always being screwed by the rural folk. I mean how is it that Wyoming gets two senators and they have less than half the polulation of Chicago? Also, American citizens in D.C. get nobody--there are more people that live in D.C. than several states. It makes no sense to me. On top of all that, they are disenfranchised on election day. It makes you want to kick a right-winger's ass!
That is my biggest fear when canvassing, that I am going to get so mad that I hit some jackass right-winger. Up to this point, people have been respectful. Man, I am in a fould mood tonight.
"And I think, in general, when people see a new name, they take a "wait-and-see" attitude." Doesn't that sort of stop the "free flow of ideas" - and that is only done by the insiders, eh?
Posted by SharpElbows on October 27, 2006 at 12:47 AM
No sharp, it really doesn't stop the flow of ideas at all unless the new person posting expects instant acceptance, patting on the back for posting, and agreement from everyone that they have done a great service for the community by sharing their wonderful link.
ranger- i am sorry to say that i don't know if those problems are being addressed- i want to believe they are, but i also suspect that is wishful thinking- i guess people have the option of avoiding the whole waiting in line thing by casting an absentee ballot this year without having to offer any reason for doing so- we have thought about this but have decided to vote on the 7th at our polling station- i think i like the act of going there to vote in person, and we had the new optical scanners in the primary this past spring so i am assuming that is what we will vote on this month- they are supposed to be better than the touch screen machines as there is a paper trail-
i'm going to head out now- was going to post a few more things but it has gotten late and it seems that some are dissatisfied with the lack of attention they are getting here, although i did attempt to watch that damn video and will certainly be on the lookout for kuo's commentary even though i thought his book was pretty pathetic- i kept waiting for the punchline and there wasn't one- he really is that naive and the press has been somewhat disingenuous in the way they have sold the book as being such an attack on this administration- it is, don't get me wrong, but you have to read between the lines and understand that kuo is still enthralled with these guys which is pretty sick
Okay,
Well, it is late and I have sleep to catch. Eleven days to election. God bless the USA and pray all that we can set her back to her right and just course for the sake of humanity and the elimination of water-boarding.
Sharedelbows,
I don't know what to tell you....
I don't think what I wrote was attacking you, I was merely saying that this blog isn't all that important, and what is really important is getting out and helping a candidate. I did not smear you at all, nor did I want to suggest that you were not doing anything. I was comparing what is important to what is not. THIS BLOG IS NOT IMPORTANT. We don't change anyone's opinions, we don't influence political races, hell we can't even influence our own damn party!!!!
I am trying to make the point that you should not look at this blog as something important. Don't take it too seriously. None, or at least few, of us are party insiders. I started posting here years ago, trying to influence the party....what a joke. How naive of me, but I did meet some good people here, and I like to discuss the issues with them sometimes.
Also, please try not to take things so personally. No one meant to hurt you, and I haven't read a single response to your post that did not encourage you to post more. So, please come back.
Posted by SharpElbows on October 27, 2006 at 12:47 AM Check out the damn video - that is what I came here to share.
I did check it out earlier today, SharpElbows. Thanks for posting it.
I've thought for the last couple of years or so that the devisive Lee Atwater style politics and those of his love child Karl Rove, espoused by the GOP, would reach the end of their disgusting life this cycle and I think they have.
Americans just aren't that mean spirited and they're not that stupid.
Jaded?
Yeah, I am jaded.
1) That's what happens when you go to Afghanistan to fight an enemy who actually attacked us, and the funds and troops are diverted to fight a meaningless war somewhere else. Then, you see that the enemy, the same one you fought, is now resurging and no one cares. The secretary of state says it is going "Swimmingly"
2) That's what happens when a president steals an election and goes on to push his extreme agenda on the public.
3) That's what happens when the US has thrown out habeus corpus, the fourth amendment, and is now openly torturing people.
4) That's what happens when people have become so greedy that they are willing to kill, destroy the environment, and employ slaves to make a bigger profit.
5) That's what happens when it becomes ok to be racist again in America
OK, I am far too down tonight to continue posting. It was nice talking to you all.
Good night Chicago, Dorsano, Jefro, Gregg and SharpElbows
Hello
Sorry to just come and go, but has anyone here ever heard of the "Black Republicans"? I was on another thread and someone posted this creepy web site: http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=pages.DYK-Why%20MLK%20was%20a%20Republican&tp_preview=true
I know common sense can refute their argument, but when I did a search on google and ask on trying to find out who and what these people are all about I got nothing. You folks seem far more adept at exposing these clowns for who they are than I am. Can any of you help me out in finding out what these folks are all about? I hate to cut and run (no puns intended), but I will check back later. Thanks.
Posted by ranger995 on October 27, 2006 at 01:18 AM Good night Chicago, Dorsano, Jefro, Gregg and SharpElbows
Goodnight, Ranger and Mister SharpElbows and everyone else.
As Bing Crosby once said when he was tired and couldn't sleep, count your blessings - time to get some shuteye and go to sleep.
Sharpelbows,
I think everyone in this country needs to take a little look at themselves and see how far we have all sunk into the gutter.
And I might add it starts from the top down. There is no civility anymore, no real discourse. There was a time when I thought that the Democrats had better grow some balls if they wanted to win and unfortunately that is still true because the stakes are soooo high but there comes a point when you realize if you are just like them you have won nothing. Look at all the scandals that have never been investigated, the list is so freaking long that I can't even remember the first one and no one even raises an eyebrow. We have a president that doesn't even have the courtesy to pretend to listen to the other side. Goes to dinner with heads of state and sits there and chews like a cow, and doesn't even care, doesn't even try to be a little smarter. Cheney goes on tv and has nothing but disdain for anyone even asking him a question, tries to pull that 'I am so superior' bull with that smug look on his face. Is it any wonder that the whole country has sunk so low? Look at the crap on tv. Not one show that is even remotely smart. There is nothing creative, nothing even close to brilliant in our ads, in our books, in our movies. And looking at the media, the nightly news is so mediocre they might as well have puppets reading it. We are the laughing stock of the world. We are considered stupid and arrogant and no one cares. We used to have ideals, we used to have morals, we used to be kind.
But now we are just burnt out, like a small flickering flame that can barely find the oxygen to continue to burn.
Now black is white and white is black. We have to get in the gutter with them just to have a chance of taking our country back, case in point, I admire Keith Olbermann, but why does he have to call O'Reilly names and put him on his worst person list almost everynight. How does that make him different in the end? How can you trust anyone to tell the truth anymore. Now don't get me wrong, I don't like O'Reilly. He is in the same category as Rush Limbaugh but if Keith starts to act just like them what is the difference. The hatred has grown so much that soon we will all be at the point of no return.
We have some real problems in this country and nothing is going to get solved unless we start with civility and that includes really listening to the other side, even the other side in your own party I agree.
Posted by Hank on October 27, 2006 at 01:24 AM
Black Conservatism
Black Conservatism is a political and social movement within African American culture that aligns largely with the American Right, emphasizing patriotism, independence and self-help, free markets and within some circles Christian Right values. Contemporary black conservatives find common ground with American conservatives of other races, which sometimes put them at odds with the largely "left" majority of African American voters.
"Conservatives" come in all colors, "races", creeds. I suspect that like most "Conservatives" some of these people are real "Conservatives" and some are not.
Al Gore earned the largest percentage of African American vote. Around 90% I think. Which just goes to show that black Americans can smell a disaster coming before many of us other folks. :)
Check out the folks who are fighting Ohio's minimum wage amendment, saying it's about "protecting our privacy".
Ads against Issue 2--sleazy scare tactics
My husband, who turned down the chance to do the animation for their TV ad as a freelancer, remains available for non-evil computer graphics and animation projects.
Posted by Bernadette on October 27, 2006 at 01:31 AM But now we are just burnt out, like a small flickering flame that can barely find the oxygen to continue to burn.
Yikes!!! I knew I was an old fart, but I didn't think I posted stuff that was that bad!!! Bummer :(
I will NOT GO QUIETLY INTO THE NIGHT. My fire's not out yet, Bernadette!!! :)
Sharpelbows,
I am old enough to remember the sixties, fortunately or unfortunately. Born in 1962.
Things seemed so tame then compared to today but I hope to God you are right.
I tried to go to your link but my browser crashes everytime I try to look at videos.
In my post I was thinking more of myself though, Frosty gets me so pissed that I literally want to kill him and I don't like seeing that part of myself and I look at my own self and wonder what has happened, especially when I know that I did grow up in a different time when politics was more civil, and you could actually get something done if you had the will.
Now though it seems like you have to practically be a militant.
Posted by SharpElbows on October 27, 2006 at 01:49 AM Hey Dorsano - I am female.
Ooops. Sorry about that.
Posted by Bernadette on October 27, 2006 at 02:01 AM I don't like seeing that part of myself and I look at my own self and wonder what has happened
Over the last decade or so, our country has inadvertantly empowered the worst it has to offer.
The good thing is, it looks so ugly, that the majority of us can't bear to look at it, so we're going stuff it back down into the subterranean recesses of our collective unconscious.
I hope it is the majority that can't bear to look at it.
Posted by Bernadette on October 27, 2006 at 02:18 AM I hope it is the majority that can't bear to look at it.
The arc of our country's story is one of greater tolerance, greater freedom and greater opportunity. We are by and large a tolerant, liberal nation.
Helping a neighbor to bring in the harvest or raise a barn are acts of a concerned community. An acknowledgement that we are all in this together and that we are stronger when we stand together.
Such acts are part of our shared system of values that transend any blue/red state divisions.
Those American values will reassert themselves.
And creation itself has a liberal bias, Bernadette.
Sweet dreams, Democrats. It's long past time for me to go to bed.
cya later, aligators.
Al Gore earned the largest percentage of African American vote. Around 90% I think. Which just goes to show that black Americans can smell a disaster coming before many of us other folks. :)
Posted by dorsano on October 27, 2006 at 01:40 AM
That is 90% of Negroes that voted. 90% of 20% = 18% of Negroes voted for Al Gore.
Posted by FrostyMacCowpie on October 27, 2006 at 02:36 AM
When Keith Ellison takes the oath of office, Sally - his right hand will be on Koran. And Muslims in Indonesia, the Middle East, Africa and around the world will learn
that there is a place in the United States of America called Minnesota,
where Muslims, and Jews and Christians
have said NO MORE to the politics of hate.
You're welcome to join us any time.
Hey Dorsano -
I am female.
Posted by SharpElbows on October 27, 2006 at 01:49 AM
Oh that explains all of the whining and pouting. But, on this site one never still knows.
Sharpelbows
Just logged on and finished reading all posts. Glad to "hung in there"
It is a big deal when Rush is attacked by his supporters.
I think the media and others are putting the wrong spin on the Ford ads. It's not necessarily race but morality and a combination of these issues. A white voter considering casting a ballot for Ford, might look twice at the moral issue. A black voter considering casting a ballor for Ford, might look twice at the moral issue. Do I want to vote for someone who gets money from the porn industry? I'm not discussing any facts, but the implications of the ad. I'm sorry to say this, but I think Ford will not win, because of this ad.
When Keith Ellison takes the oath of office, Sally - his right hand will be on Koran. And Muslims in Indonesia, the Middle East, Africa and around the world will learn
that there is a place in the United States of America called Minnesota,
where Muslims, and Jews and Christians
have said NO MORE to the politics of hate.
You're welcome to join us any time.
Posted by dorsano on October 27, 2006 at 02:45 AM
And thus welcoming these murderous hairballs to join our state.
No thanks, I like Swedes, Norwegians and Germans better.
Posted by FrostyMacCowpie on October 27, 2006 at 02:50 AM
Fortunately for your soul, Sally - God's given you until you die to change your mind.
Yeah, that is the Democrat Parties solution to the war on terror - elect these dumb asses to high office! That Muslim, Keith Ellison, has zero chance of winning
You are right, it is just the complacency in this country that gets to me.
I just hope all the sleepyheads wake up and smell the coffee on election day.
See you all tomorrow. Good night.
Fortunately for your soul, Sally - God's given you until you die to change your mind.
Posted by dorsano on October 27, 2006 at 02:54 AM
God never said to welcome murderous slugs into your midst.
Posted by dorsano on October 27, 2006 at 02:31 AM
From you keyboard to God's ear
I am so tired of the division in this country. I am old enough to remember the sign "Bring Us Together" held up during a Nixon campaign stop. The division at that time, seems like a mild family spat compared to the hatred espoused and used politically in the country today.
John Dean was correct, this administration is worse than watergate.
Posted by FrostyMacCowpie on October 27, 2006 at 02:57 AM
Karl Rove's rolling his eyes with that one, Sally. Best stick to your day job.
But, it's tough to make all those Minnesota Swedes, Norwegians, Germans (don't forget the Irish) hate. I'll grant you that.
Let it go, Sally. It's a wonderful world. Enjoy some it with a light heart before you die.
Let it go, Sally. It's a wonderful world. Enjoy some it with a light heart before you die.
Posted by dorsano on October 27, 2006 at 03:04 AM
That is the way I always proceed.
It is not likeley that my District is gonna elect a moslem mofo. But that district that the muslem is running in has a very large percentage of dopey voters but word will get out that he is a muslem and he will lose.
Bernadette
I know what you mean. I know people working minimum wage jobs, struggling to make ends meet, sending sons and daughters to Iraq and Afghanistan. But when it comes time to vote, they look at a single issue (abortion) or get their news from Rush/their religious leader.
I work with people who have said abortion is the only issue when it comes time to vote. Now we are facing budget cuts and furlows in a government agency. I am ready to suggest they take their Republican party membership cards and apply for jobs in Iraq.
Posted by FrostyMacCowpie on October 27, 2006 at 03:12 AM It is not likeley that my District is gonna elect a moslem mofo.
That's only because the Democrat there isn't Muslim. :)
And right next to you, you have Becky Lourey. :)
Don't you just love our state? :)
I need to get some rest before heading to my day of public service, Dorsano I'll leave you to handle Frosty -
Actually, Frosty spends so much time here,I'll bet his vote will be for Dem - He just wants someone to recognize him
When Keith Ellison takes the oath of office, Sally - his right hand will be on Koran...
Posted by FrostyMacCowpie on October 27, 2006 at 02:50 AM
I don't think so, I think you are wrong. He would have to use the Bible like all others. the Congress has not totally bought into this "politically correct" b.s.
dixiehen,
You are so right, that is what is so scary, they are like a cult and you can't deprogram them.
Hope to see you tomorrow, again good night.
Posted by FrostyMacCowpie on October 27, 2006 at 03:12 AM
Ooops, I forgot to mention the gay Republican that was just endorsed by rual Minnesota Republicans not far from you. He's certain to carry his district on November 7th.
We can't forget them!!
How many Americans do you want to throw under the bus?
All the black ones, all the Muslims, all the public school teachers, all those that belong to a union.
Have you given us a full accounting. I haven't been on the blog as much as I used to be.
Hey Frosty Cow Dung -
Just how much do you get paid by Cheney to write your trash?
Posted by SharpElbows on October 27, 2006 at 03:17 AM
Well Sharpi, I get $75 per post as long as I reflect the views of the Republican National Committee. If I go over the line they deduct $75. So far this month I owe the RNC $16,875.
Posted by dixiehen on October 27, 2006 at 03:18 AM Dorsano I'll leave you to handle Frosty
His soul is in own hands, Dixie. And my family's financial security is partly in my in my hands.
So I best get to bed. :)
Ooops, I forgot to mention the gay Republican that was just endorsed by rual Minnesota Republicans not far from you. He's certain to carry his district on November 7th.
We can't forget them!!
How many Americans do you want to throw under the bus?
All the black ones, all the Muslims, all the public school teachers, all those that belong to a union.
Have you given us a full accounting. I haven't been on the blog as much as I used to be.
Posted by dorsano on October 27, 2006 at 03:22 AM
That district is a long way from me and he is only a State Rep.
I am not interested in throwing anyone under the bus but it is nearly time to throw the muslems into internment camps as we did with the Japs and Germans during WWII. That will happen before the war on terror is over - just wait and you will see.
The only way an idiot like him can survive in this country today is to hide out in the heartland. Put him in a minority, like whites are down here (25% +/-), and he would not last a day before his little cracker ass would be dead meat. And yes, I am white...
Good night all - it's been a real experience.
Posted by SharpElbows on October 27, 2006 at 03:35 AM
Goodnight cracker ass.
So Frosty you going to vote Dem with the people you love to argue with?
Frosty Cow Dung - you are starting to smell.
Posted by SharpElbows on October 27, 2006 at 03:35 AM
Smells don't travel over the internet Sharpi - better check you underpants.
Posted by FrostyMacCowpie on October 27, 2006 at 03:31 AM it is nearly time to throw the muslems into internment camps as we did with the Japs and Germans during WWII.
Well, Democratic Leadership interned those Japanese and German Americans. That's big of you to show solidarity with us - though I'd have chosen some other policy like Social Security or Medicare myself.
Sweet dreams, Sally.
Finally caught up on my reading and now it's too late to comment. Sigh. Story of my life, finally think of something to say after everyone goes home.
Oh well, try again tomarrow.
Goodnight good dems.
ALLEN'S REVENGE: EXPOSES UNDERAGE SEX SCENES IN OPPONENT'S NOVELS
Thu Oct 26 2006 20:05:37 ET
Sen. George Allen, R-VA, unleashed a press release late Thursday that exposed his rival's fiction writing, which includes graphic underage sex scenes.
Lost Soldiers: A shirtless man walked toward them along a mud pathway. His muscles were young and hard, but his face was devastated with wrinkles. His eyes were so red that they appeared to be burned by fire. A naked boy ran happily toward him from a little plot of dirt. The man grabbed his young son in his arms, turned him upside down, and put the boys penis in his mouth.
Fields of Fire: "He saw the invitation with every bouncing breast and curved hip. . . . He was thirteen. . . . She was fifteen . . . . In a few moments she drew him to her and he murmured in his quiet voice, 'I am still small.' 'You are large enough,' she answered. And he found he was."
OK, forget about Virginia, now on to Tennessee and lets win there. Tee hee
How many points is Lieberman losing by now.
tee hee again.
Do you get the feeling that it is all falling apart. This is going to be another fun election night - I can feel it in the air.
I know it would be better for the Repubs if they lost the house but it is hard to get excited about that prospect.
Night Night!
The Republican't word of the week seems to be "extreme"--as in "Democrats are full of extremists." Well, they got that one right.
We are extremely disgusted by the corruption in Washington.
We are extremely distressed by the growing number of war dead and injured in Iraq.
We are extremely disappointed in the buffoons in the White House.
We are extremely disillusioned by the deception directed at people of faith.
In fact, we are extremely fed up with the whole passle of lies.
On the other hand, we are extremely delighted by the slate of state and national Democratic candidates we have put together (beginning with Shea-Porter and Hodes).
We are extremely disposed to getting out the vote.
We are extremely determined to turn the ship of state and get it back on course.
And we are extremely optimistic that this mess can be cleaned up and that November 8th is the day we start.
But, it's still extremely upsetting that the Republican'ts, who profess to know us so well, seem totally incapable of delivering what they promised under oath. And, whether that's incompetence or malfeasance, it's not just extremely important but imperative that it be stopped.
Enough is enough.
Posted by dixiehen on October 27, 2006 at 03:12 AM
Tell your friends:
Smaller government is meddling in the minutiae of our daily lives and leaving the catastrophes to us.
Simple Math.
This is funny.
Have a great weekend,all.
Democrats,
One more before I go.I know we're not supposed to do this whole elebrating thing ,and I know I'm cheating but.........
I couldn't help it.I took a peek into the future and saw this.
Okay, Now you can have a Hee Haw weekend.
Peace out and don't forget to check the Democratic Party Builder Blogs.
not only doesn't dors get any ice cream when he does requalify he gets only green ice cream.
Frosty Cow Dung - you are starting to smell.
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Frosty has stunk from the beginning and will continue to stink. He's a Repuke troll.
From Rolling Stone - the cover picture alone is worth the click
George W. Bush's presidency appears headed for colossal historical disgrace. Barring a cataclysmic event on the order of the terrorist attacks of September 11th, after which the public might rally around the White House once again, there seems to be little the administration can do to avoid being ranked on the lowest tier of U.S. presidents. And that may be the best-case scenario. Many historians are now wondering whether Bush, in fact, will be remembered as the very worst president in all of American history.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/profile/story/9961300/the_worst_president_in_history
this is hysterical and sick. daniel henniger a editorial writing pimp for the wall street urinal attended bush's meeting with right wing media stars the other day. in this piece about the meeting he goes on about how unpolitical the thing was ( barf ) and quotes bush as saying:
""My biggest issue that I think about all the time," Mr. Bush says, "is the next attack on America, because I am fully aware that there are people out there that would like nothing more than to have another spectacular moment by killing American people. And they're coming."
too bad this wasn't what bush was thinking about before 9/11, he might have cut that vacation short. right not political, just tell the bobble heads that attacks are on the way and only he knows how to defend us....i wonder if this pimp asked about how port securtiy was coming or how many suicidal terrorists there are in the world now compared to five years ago? did he ask if bush would like to have that spectacular attack this week maybe? no he tells us this is a great man who only has our interests in mind...what a sack of shit!
bushit
Good morning, everyone.
Elbows trying to tell "us" what and who we can post about. geesh
Give me a fucking break! I've worked my slacker off for years for the democratic party and it's candidates! If I want to post about my kids, my parents, my job, my lover, I'm going to! It's called life! I have people in it that matter. What goes on in my tiny hamlet and in the world matters. And I'll type at the "troll" if I damn well want to. He was one of the few that wrote me a personal e-mail congratulating me on Zack Space's victory.
I prefer to be very transparent because I'm not afraid. I'll be personal because that's the kind of person I am.
Right now, it's time for me to wake up my Pretty Bird and take her to the hospital. Thanks to all who gave a kind word. It shows that some people care what goes on in others lives.
Enjoy the day, everyone.
p.s. Tonight I'll be doing a sign wave for Zack Space at the last football game of the season. Country rival game, my nephew is one of the Senior Stars.
George W. Bush's presidency appears headed for colossal historical disgrace. Barring a cataclysmic event on the order of the terrorist attacks of September 11th, after which the public might rally around the White House once again,
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I agree with the first sentence. I disagree completely with the second. If there is another attack, the public will blame it 100% on Bush and the Republican rubber stamps. It will yet another monumental failure for them just like Katrina.
Harley Shaiken: NLRB Decisions Could Polarize Economy, Mute Democracy
I wish that Dems would talk about the NLRB more. That organiztion needs to be trashed. Workers need a non-partisian labor representation on capital hill not a bunch of bush appointed anti-worker hacks.
By the way, nurses can now be classified as supervisors and supervisors can't form unions. This is classic union busting tactics.
It's wrong!
Shaiken, who specializes in labor and the global economy, says the labor board’s decision reflects a broader pattern in which recent NLRB rulings undermine the intent of the National Labor Relations Act. Rather than facilitating the freedom to organize and bargain as the law requires, the Bush-controlled NLRB consistently has made the process much more difficult for many workers, including graduate teaching assistants, temporary workers and people with disabilities.
For all too many workers, Shaiken says, this means
joining a union represents a risk rather than a choice.
He notes that about one worker every 23 minutes is disciplined or even terminated for union activity.
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This has to stop! I believe the number one reason why wages have stagnated and jobs have been outsourced is union busting.
Before I go, I wanted to share this tidbit.
It's scientific!
"Via computer simulation based on statistical analysis of historical data, we show how generic vote polls can be used to forecast the election outcome. We convert the results of generic vote polls into a projection of the actual national vote for Congress and ultimately into the partisan division of seats in the House of Representatives. Our model allows both a point forecast-our expectation of the seat division between Republicans and Democrats-and an estimate of the probability of partisan control. Based on current generic ballot polls, we forecast an expected Democratic gain of 32 seats with Democratic control (a gain of 18 seats or more) a near certainty."
Rhode Island Senate Race Rhode Island College 10/23 - 10/25 408 RV Chafee (R) 33% , Whitehouse (D) 43% Whitehouse +10.0%
be good to see this "you got my liberal vote whenever it is meaningless" turd gone.
Esme, hope all goes well with your daughter. I'm not on the blog all that much anymore, so not sure what the problem is, but will keep her in my thoughts and prayers.
And, it's the posts about our lives that make us friends instead of nameless faces. It probably scares some people because we would go that extra mile for someone we know and respect.
Good morning, all.
Essie, my prayers are with you and your Pretty Bird. Be strong for her. But then you both know she's going to beat this. Hey, look at it this way...blondes look good in pink? You'll both be able to wear that color with pride when this is all said and done.
Take care on the road. We're sending you more rain today.
Cyn, Esme explained everythintg to me last night at 9:48 PM.
Esme: will be thinking of you all day, take care, prayers for all of you.
I've been thinking about Sharpelbows' post last night.
Do the evangelicals feel like they have been manipulated by the White House or do they feel David Chu is trying to manipulate them now?
I keep telling myself that the fundies are human being just like all of us. They see the same multi-color world as I, but they view it through a much more limited spectrum of light. Maybe they are right, it is I who is not experiencing the full range of light by scattering my vision so far a field?
I do know I'm off the mark from time to time. But it makes me realize that I have to look closer at issues because of it.
I don't understand how they think, but I assume that they are kind of like Catholics (which I still am but do not practice unless I feel like want/need to experience the full wonder of the Eucharist)...you must accept the full doctrine of the Church or you are in a state of sin and denial.
Chu may be up against that if he challenges them. But then evangelicals must have the same hopes and aspirations for their children and our country as I. When the opportunities aren't there anymore and they are experiencing financial setbacks, it's hard not to miss where the real trouble is emanating from when the Republicans have been so blatantly incompetent.
I hope they listen to Chu's warnings. It might just make the difference in some very close races.
"I'm just not seeing a lot of progress," frets Kimberly Froeschner, 34, a GOP-leaning independent in Raleigh, N.C. She said she has grown frustrated with Iraq in the past year and feels "it's more about oil."
And Bush finally admitted it was "all about oil" this week at his press conference.
Was that a cry for help? Does he feel helpless and doesn't know what to do, so he's hoping that a Democratic sweep of Congress will allow/force him to avail himself of their counsel and ideas?
I sure hope so. But Cheney would probably die before letting it happen.
For all their ranting and raving about how "leaks" have hurt the war effort....why did Bush tell the Iraqi militias that he didn't intent to "change the course" for two years....that the world would have to wait until the next president took charge before any change could happen?
It gave the warring sectarian factions in Iraq just the reason they needed to start carving out territory, so they would be in a better position to bargain when relief finally arrives two years from now with a new pragmatic American leader. The Iraqis are not going to stop fighting until the feel there is a better alternative.
With Bush's leak, he took that hope away from them and from any others who might have been able to exert some pressure on these frustrated and angry young men. There has to be incentives for them to put down their arms.
Leaking the fact that there will be a continued foreign occupation of over 130,000 troops in their country for the rest of his term (and the prospect of permanent bases for decades after that) was not the right clue to leak out to the world...or to any GOP leaning independents.
Let's hope Bush has come to his senses.
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