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Posted by Paul on October 31, 2006 at 05:55 PM
Sorry to hear of what your daughter endured, Paul. Good thing she had loving parents to help her through that.
It's going to be unfortunately easy for the Republicans to take the statement of Sen. John Kerry out of context for political purposes.
I've known many National Guard members, and none of them come from a very wealthy background and needed the extra pay and benefits from the Guard to help to exist or support a family. With a better job or education, most of them would have likely chosen not to join the Guard.
In a time of military conflict like now, these persons get sucked into a conflict which I'm sure that they hoped would not really come along. For the sake of wanting a little extra oncome, these persons are really putting themselves at huge risk. Unlike Firemen or Police who generally earn far more for risking their lives, National Guardsmen take a great risk for lower pay and benefits.
PROGRESSIVE VALUES
Repost from last thread:
"I go out to Walter Reed quite often and see these brave young soldiers who have served and sacrificed so much. Many of them have lost limbs, as you know. And it's a very sad thing to see. But at the same time it's very uplifting. Because these young people are so proud of what they've done... This generation of men and women who are serving in the military are the very, very, very best of us."
-- Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), campaigning for congressional candidate Peter Roskam (R). His opponent is Tammy Duckworth (D), an Iraq war veteran who lost both legs during her service.
Re: Posted by PaulSHooson on October 31, 2006 at 06:04 PM
Please see my comment on the flip side.
Good evening, all.
Poor George. He's so stupid he doesn't know when he's being insulted...slyly suggests that it was directed at somebody else. More deceit and lies.
What's really outrageous is that he doesn't understand why the Americans are fed up with his quagmire in Iraq. Just today the Iraqi Prime Minister rejected American military strategy and sided with the most radical elements in his country.
But let's not face reality. Instead the GOP and their pundits in the media are grasping at straws by desperately setting up another Swiftboat lie....when the country is desperate for a change in Iraq.
The war is getting worse and they are playing games as usual. Let them play their way right out of control of Congress.
PaulSHooson:
The Point of Kerry's comment:
Is about the economic standing of our soldiers rather then their intelligence.
Democrats need to refocus the debate to the fact that the options for the lower class it to go into the military - what is their choice to get a college education.
Kerry is a democrat and we should stand up with him against the Republican hype and their taking a perfectly sound statement and turning it into a trashing of the Democrats.
I say how dare them - if it weren't for there constant slashing at the middle and lower income families we may have the money to send our sons and daughters to college without them having to go to the military for it.
Right now there have been TV adds showing a young black man talking to his mom about "I've found away to college" he tells his mom about his great opportunities in the Military.
Kerry's remark is inline with exactly what the ad implies - get an education by serving you country.
HOW DARE THE REPULICANS FOR TAKING THE TRUTH AND MAKING IT THE TRASH - I say send that trash right back at them!
Stand up with Kerry!
Posted by Cyn_NY on October 31, 2006 at 06:06 PM
Ironic how they always overlook the obvious, Cyn. If voters refuse to see the truth right in front of their face, then they don't deserve a candidate as courageous and competent as Tammy Duckworth. But they are going to get her anyway, right.
So our president has finally had some progress with North Korea, after he agreed to speak with them away from the six party talks. This is something that North Korea has been asking him to do for years now. I wonder, if he'd have done this sooner would North Korea be a nuclear power today? I guess we'll never know.
I feel deeply sorry for the situation involving your daughter, Paul. You have my prayers. My family has suffered with a sister with significant birth defects. Many families suffer terrible pain that they don't deserve. I'm currently very ill with a serious genetic defect in my blood. There is no real justice in life.
But the feature on my website only deals with the November 8, Supreme Court hearing which focuses on a very late term controversial abortion practice, that has no relationship to the immediate medical help offered to rape victims.
My feature deals only with how much this November 8 hearing may impact Roe v. Wade given the conservative leaning court appointed by Bush, and Attorney General Gonzales as the main Plaintiff. That's all.
I wish you and your family the very best, Paul. A very good day to you.
PROGRESSIVE VALUES
Marine:
He did it in private - I guess he wants to ask them to join the North American Union!
(Ha ha ha - that was my sorry attempt at humor!)
Sandy, wouldn't one think that McCain of all people should understand that? He was a war hero, a pow and he took so much shit from the repugs. It's very hard for me to understand what happened to that courageous man, slandered and lied about by Rove & Co. I remember actually feeling sorry for him. How can he not only forgive them, but forget where he came from. Kool-aid, indeed.
Paul,
It's not about the troops at all. It's about the Commander-in-Chief.
Quit jumping to conclusions. Bush is using the same strawman technique he always does. He offers up two lies and then challenges you to choose which of the two you will accept.
Don't fall for it. You don't have to accept any of the lies this man offers.
Re: Posted by SandyH on October 31, 2006 at 06:34 PM
Sandy,
I never jumped to any conclusions.
The problem isn't what Kerry said. It's simply that he said it.
He cost us the 2004 election. I don't think we should allow him to cost us again. I wish he would just shut up and go away.
My take on MC Cain is: he isn't looking too good, I don't know what his physical condition is, but his R jaw looked like he had some medical treatments a few weeks ago.
Maybe his medications are distorting his ideals.
(I mean that seriously not as a joke) Some meds can effect your logic and thought processing abilities.
I've known many National Guard members, and none of them come from a very wealthy background and needed the extra pay and benefits from the Guard to help to exist or support a family. With a better job or education, most of them would have likely chosen not to join the Guard.
Posted by PaulHooson
That may be your experience. It is not mine. My son had a full academic scholarship to a private university. We have plenty of financial resources. He joined the National Guard out of a deep desire to serve his country. I know it may come as a surprise to some, but more people are like my son than not.
I was deeply hurt by Senator Kerry's flippant remarks. The other families in my group are livid. This is not helpful to the Democrats.
Posted by Cyn_NY on October 31, 2006 at 06:06 PM
So McCain is saying - Tammy Duckworth is the very,very best of us --- Hey, he just endorsed her!!
Why did King George and his regressive republican Congress cut funding for the VA?
dk2 - please stop repeating this innacurate statement:
we may have the money to send our sons and daughters to college without them having to go to the military for it.
There are many options for going to college. Please do not denigrate our soldiers by saying they are only in in for the money.
Paul - I wish the same of a few others too.
Lieberman for one. Evan Bayh for another, and all the others that think it is ok to join the bi-partisanship rhetoric. Like Harold Ford saying that he was going to be one of the "14".
The problem isn't what Kerry said. It's simply that he said it.
He cost us the 2004 election. I don't think we should allow him to cost us again. I wish he would just shut up and go away.
Posted by Paul on October 31, 2006 at 06:40 PM
Honey, them is fighting words. Better to concentrate on the postive, not the negative. Let's try to look forward, not backward. The midterm majority is within our reach. Let us not argue, but unite together to beat the bastards.
Please, let it go.
Well Joan there maybe for yours but not many others.
Sorry you feel the truth is a denigrate to our soldiers.
But it is what I believe and I will not stop saying it.
Sorry.
Well Joan there maybe for yours but not many others.
And you know this how?
King George thinks that 2,700 military deaths are a good thing.
Go Kerry! Thanks for telling the truth! If you aren't priveledged in this country, there is nothing left for you to do but to go into the military and serve, what is it now, 3, 4 tours in Iraq? I hope my dems get behind John and confront the enemy here at home so we won't have to over there....
McCain no longer fights his enemies, instead he joins them. The Republicans said themselves that McCain had been forever psychological scared by his time as a POW, so much so that they refused to allow him to run against Al Gore, and they may have been right. McCain didn't fight them back then and now he chooses to repeat party falsehoods much like he repeated Communist falsehoods in one infamous letter published during Vietnam.
I don't know what happened to him exactly, but I can see that he has lost his will to fight.
Here's what's stupid -
the democratic strategists!
Did you notice how the republicans are tying the local campaigns loud and clear into Washington?
eg. "A vote for my opponent is a vote for Pelosi as House Speaker" etc.
Why aren't the democrats playing the Washington card? Not one sound bite I have heard effectively does this and it is the single issue which IMHO would be most resonant with voters.
Here's the simple song they all should be singing in addition to whatever else they want to say -
If you support George Bush and want to continue the Republican monopoly in congress then vote for my opponent because a vote for my opponent will help do that. But if you are sick and tired of the abusive practices of the republicans and the arrogance of Bush and want to break up the monopoly vote for me!
end of story.
What is going to happen in Iraq now that al Sadr suggested non-violent resistance and it worked for him? He got the Prime Minister to purge American troops from his stronghold without even lifting a finger.
Will he go after the oil fields in the South or our military bases next? Will al Sistani support him? What will Iran gain from this new development in the long run?
Joan, don't take this personally. You are falling into the repub trap. Kerry was a soldier. Although your son has a calling and knows what he wants, there are many kids that have no education, no where to go, and only sign up because a recruiter has lied to them in order to make a quota. I believe what Kerry was trying to say is make sure that you know what you are doing, and that signing on is not just an escape from life.
I miss your posts. And, I honor your son for his service.
King George wants to keep our troops in the middle of a civil war.
If you aren't priveledged in this country, there is nothing left for you to do but to go into the military and serve,
Again - please give me some supporting evidence for this.
My own experience for one, and my 3 boys for 2, and the Army, Navy, Marine TV spots for 3.
And if you like I can search for many people who have made statements to the fact that they went into the military for an education!
{{{Joanie}}}
good to see you and know you are well.
I had two brothers who joined the Army and the AirForce for one reason. To get training and help with college tuition should they decide to continue schooling when they got out.
They got sucked into Vietnam. One got killed in an auto accident on a leave home, and the other was never mentally well again.
I think if the Repubs had not picked up on, and turned Kerry's statement into such a big deal, that those kids listening to him, who were laughing loudly by the way, would not have thought a thing about it.
Don't forget, John is a Veteran too. He would not disparage the troops for any reason.
Please take his remark for what it was, a poorly articulated joke meant for Bush and his war.
King George and Crazy Joe are denying our boys their heroes' welcome!
It came during a campaign rally for California Democratic gubernatorial candidate Phil Angelides. Kerry opened his speech at Pasadena City College with several one-liners, saying at one point that Bush had lived in Texas but now "lives in a state of denial."
He then said: "You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."
MSM - can't run the segment about state of denial.
Ok, I see that Steve/Sally is here, so I'm out.
Keep your eye on the pie and don't get sidetracked by the bullshit, Dems.
Go Kerry! Thanks for telling the truth! If you aren't priveledged in this country, there is nothing left for you to do but to go into the military and serve, what is it now, 3, 4 tours in Iraq? I hope my dems get behind John and confront the enemy here at home so we won't have to over there....
Cyn - Ny
With all due respect, over this past 15 months of deployment, I have gotten to kknow literally hundreds of military wives, mothers, and family members. Some of these men or so accomplished and so successful in their civilian lives, you would be amazed. Othopedic surgeons, dentists, lawyers, accountants, etc. They all volunteered to go. It makes me crazy when people fall into this cliche of the under-educated underpriviledged service person. It's just not my experience at all.
Tag your it
Rove goes looking for his symbolic target, finds John Kerry
You would think that anyone who would remind voters of the mistake in the middle east would not be used as a republican campaign symbol. Hats off to Karl you gain a few, you motivate many others.
King George has spent more time holding hands with King Abdullah than attending soldiers' funerals.
Regardless of what Kerry said, he did not send our troops to Iraq on a pack of lies and cherry picked intelligence, DUH-bya did!
Hi PamB ! How are you? Happy Halloween to you - although here in Wisconsin we have the kiddies do it on the weekend in the daylight. Not the same at all. :(
Joan - please read the context of Kerry's statement - haven't found full text, but it was obviously meant to be an attack at Bush.
Sandy, Iraqis are likely to form alliances despite past aggression because it is in their best interest when considering future business dealings to be had with the United States. Unlike the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, Iraq's militias are not entirely opposed to foreign influence, so long as it is on their terms. Iraqis have been doing business with the west for some time, and enjoy it, that's it wasn't necessary to launch a full scale military assault in the first place.
Iraq is a modern nation and, despite the fact that we bombed them back to the third world, want to continue trade. They've been trying to get us out of the way so that they could settle things and get back to refining oil for a long time now.
Posted by Joan_here on October 31, 2006 at 06:54 PM
Why don't you come up with some supporting evidence for your opinion? Or why it is not so?
The Republicans keep claiming that if they do not retain a majority in Congress, then the terrorist will get us. The Republicans claim that their dedicated actions have kept terrorist away from US soil since "9/11. Republicans want us to think that a vote for them is a vote for your family's protection from terrorist. The President recently said in Texas that "the terrorists will win if Democrats win and impose their policies on Iraq."
I would like to remind all voters that 9/11 happened in 2001 under the current Bush Administration and Republican controlled Congress. We have been under a republican controlled Congress since 1994, yet 9/11 happened.
The Republicans have nothing to brag about fighting terrorism. Going to war in Iraq was a big distraction to the war on terrorism. The Democrats can do better by fighting a more direct, better planned, and more effective war against terrorism. We can start by implementing the 2005 9/11 Commission's recommendations.
If voters do not fall for Republican fear tactics (again), we will have a better Congress after the November 2006 elections.
Bill Roberson
dixiehen - I think it is on YouTube now, if I'm not mistaken, I heard it. The point is - Kerry is making military families mad - not a good thing one week before an election.
King George won't let the Iraqis build their own country.
NO RESPECT FOR IRAQI SOVEREIGNTY
Sure many serving now are well-educated and were successful in civillian life, but they are stuck in Iraq due to the guard and reserves being called up to serve the lies and greed of this administration, can you spell "Iraq for sale"? Are our military to become corporate henchmen for war time profiteers? these noble servicemen/women deserve better.
Joan, The trick or treaters are out now, but because I live on a tiny street with only a few houses, they don;t detour up here very much!
I miss the old neighborhood when a hundred kids were banging on the door!
wish you would come back more often. It is hard to keep Gregg in order without you!
:)
Can we all agree men and women join the military for varying reasons?
Moving on from there - we have men and women in Iraq and Afghanistan that are being screwed by this administration and that's where our focus needs to be.
The public has caught on.
The Republicans can only siwftboat others on things that have nothing to do with the issues...because they can't run on their record.
It's diversion after diversion from the real issues that people are pissed off about. People want solutions not diversions.
So instead the Republicans tried to swiftboat Michael J. Fox. He fought back.
They tried to swiftboat Webb. He fought back.
They tried to swiftboat Ford. He fought back.
They tried to swiftboat McCaskill. She fought back.
They are trying to swiftboat Kerry...and guess what? He fought back.
Democrats won't back down on what we know is right. And we aren't going to stop fighting till we get these degenerate, corrupt incompetents out of Congress.
Spunky and Frostie can smirk and jive all they want. They can lie all they want. Swiftboat all they want. But the American public is sick of the lies and angry with the diversions and excuses.
They want change and solutions to their problems. And change they will get when they throw the bums out next week.
PamB -
gregg's still here? I thought God had smote him by now! LOL!
gotta run - have a great night everyone!
Let's face it, the Republicans jumped on this, and will keep fanning it, trying to keep it alive. Let's not fall into their trap.
this Iraq war is on the ballot next week. We cannot let this detract our mission of getting Republicans out of office, and Dems in, and FINALLY looking for a Strategy that works to get out of there.
STAY THE COURSE, OR CHANGE THE COURSE????
Posted by Joan_here on October 31, 2006 at 06:57 PM
Joan - I am really glad they signed up, but most of the ones you listed are going in as commissioned officers, there is a big difference to associating with the group you listed and associating with the frontline group troops, marines, 101 airborne, pfc's and non-comm.
It doesn't matter what John Kerry said. Bush wants the topic to change. They say the economy is going well, It is going well for the wealthy. Middle class america better wake up, because this is nothing but a good old fashion middle class financial lynching. Where do all of the golden parachute benefits come from. These CEO are making record salaries. Bush ,policy in Iraq may have been a noble gesture (middle east democracy), but I liken it to a chest game where he made the first move with no second move in thought. He continues to blame previous administration for his problems related to Iraq. He doesn't look at the whole picture in Iraq or here in America.
King George has yet to hold someone accountable for the anthrax attacks.
The point that disturbes me is the fact that Dem canidates are always having to fight "back" and defend themselves. Are Dems too nice to generate offense and let the pugs fight "back"?
Posted by Marine on October 31, 2006 at 07:02 PM
Then the Iraqis will find a way to get us out of there sooner not later. I know I'm working on it from our side.
I'm just glad people are talking and questioning, not only believing.
kel- you're right the economy should be the issue.
What about those trying to live on minimum wage, or seniors and disabled people trying to get by on a fixed income?
How many people are using credit cards to pay for necessities? What happens when cards are maxed and they are unable to make payments?
Yeah, the economy is in great shape.
The Makaca thing is all but dead, The foley scandal has centralized in Fla., The Foley coverup by the pug house leadership is seldom mentioned. Iraq's WMDs is a forgotten subject. The pug congressmen's ties with Abramof is yesterdays news. Why do we Democrats let these things go?
From earlier thread - there are voting machine problems with early voting in Florida -- here we go again
Warning --- if you vote opitcal scan---- do not vote straight party ticket - this was a problem in NM in 2000 - machines did not read correctly
I'm out of here for tonight --- let's get back on target - trolls scan to see what is the hot issue - if we stay on Kerry we are playing into their hands
King George gave classified information to male prostitutes.
[Jeff Gannon......... Oops. Sorry. James Guckert.]
And don't forget no brain cheneyburton' "no brainer" regarding waterboarding.
I hear what you are saying, dixie. This is why the Republicans will pay dearly for their spending habits. They understand that nothing they have done has resulted in a reduction in national debt and that we've carried deficits every year since George Bush was elected.
The rich and poor alike must pay their debt when it comes due, and ours in coming due. On the bright side, paying our debt now will mean that we owe less to communist countries like China who now hold a great deal of our debt and thus our interest. If we did keep going like this, some of those nations where America locates its factories might decide to seize them in exchange for unpaid debt. Some are already threatening.
Any pug canidate who is hanging on to DUH-bya' coat tails probably has their head up his ass. A vote for them is a vote for more of the same.
King George is helping Osama Bin Laden bankrupt our country.
Posted by rashlimbo on October 31, 2006 at 07:21 PM
How about Katrina? Those images are worth a thousand words. I say we make that our last and most haunting (in the spirit of halloween) image before the voters go to the polls. That and the flag drapped coffins.
King George has lost $9 billion in Iraq.
Where the hell did it go?
The problem isn't what Kerry said. It's simply that he said it. He cost us the 2004 election. I don't think we should allow him to cost us again. I wish he would just shut up and go away.
Posted by Paul on October 31, 2006 at 06:40 PM
I don't see "the problem" as being what he said. The only problem I can see is if he does not fight back hard enough to counter their lies. We'll see how this plays out over then couple of days.
King George gives no bid contracts to companies that cheat the troops and the taxpayers.
Don't be bothered by one bad comment made by Kerry, he's not up for election. Get back on the attack.
Posted by SandyH on October 31, 2006 at 07:36 PM
Sandy, you see what I mean. I forgot to mention Katrina. We Dems seem to overlook the shortcomings and negligence of the pugs to push an agenda which will benefit this country. The pugs should be hammerd and hammard hard for what they are doing to and for what they are not doing for this country.
If we did keep going like this, some of those nations where America locates its factories might decide to seize them in exchange for unpaid debt. Some are already threatening.
Posted by Marine on October 31, 2006 at 07:31 PM
Marine, let them have them. It would teach the Republicans a good lesson and cripple their campaign contributors. And it would show Americans just how stupid the Republicans and their multinational friends are.
Of course, the Communists will confiscate those assets. Squatter's rights. It's a universally accepted practice. And there will be nothing that the neocons will be able to do about it
When I think of all the time and effort put into this insane outsourcing fiasco. Well, it will hurt them not us.
It's pretty depressing that so many intellectually challenged people thought Kerry's comment referred to the military.I would have thought Bush's "plenty smart" comment would have bothered them more.This kind of display of our country's plight makes me wish that bird flu would get here a little sooner.I might have to move to europe to give my kids a better life.Very sad.
pee-wee,
In addition to the money missing in iraq, HOW ABOUT those thousands and thousands of missing WEAPONS! Probably being used against our kids right this minute!!
Never saw a more incompentent, ineffecient group of imbeciles in my entire life than this administration, and those leading over in iraq!
My, my, those Democrats. Having the nerve to try and get involved in U.S. election!
Cheney Accuses Democrats Of Trying To Influence US Elections
Speaking on Fox News, Vice President Dick Cheney accused Democrats of timing their political attacks and advertising campaigns to influence the midterm elections set for next week.
"I was reading something today that a writer -- I don't remember who -- was speculating on increased use of phone banking and cavassing of neighborhoods and get-out-the-vote rallies by the Democrats as attempting to demoralize the Republican people as we get up to the election," said Cheney on the "Your World With Neil Cavuto" program. "And when I read that, it made sense to me."
Dailykos
King George bought our boys CHEAP body armor after two years of no body armor.
Posted by SandyH on October 31, 2006 at 07:44 PM
Sandy, the economic impact would be devastating. After all, it is the large corporate invesments (buying huge blocks of stock) that is carrying the stock market. A mass selloff would cripple the market far beyond repair within the near future.
King George is too chicken to put the Iraq war cost in the national budget.
[SHRINKING DEFICIT MY ASS]
Hey, rash.
The trolls are always coming in here saying we are wimps. So I say we go after them with both barrels blazing. When they start this swiftboating lying crap, we use it as an excuse to go after them.
From what the pollsters say, that's what the voters are looking for...they want us to extract some revenge and do a little damage on their nether regions. I say we grab them by the balls and not let go till November 8.
King George is helping Osama Bin Laden bankrupt our country. Posted by pee-wee on October 31, 2006 at 07:34 PM
The Bush clan, and the Bin Laden have been "business partners" for a mighty long time. Bush Jr does whatever Osama tells him to do. "Get out of Saudi Arabia!" "Ok Osama" "Attack Iraq!" "You got it, OSL buddy".
Posted by SandyH on October 31, 2006 at 07:53 PM
Count me in Sandy.
I'm old, ugly,ill tempered, socially unacceptable, and my Mama dresses me funny, but, I'm sure as hell not stupid - I didn't vote for DUH-bya.
Rove - mister nice guy - NOT!
"Judge Tells Lawyer to Drop Rove Claim"
"Judge refused Friday to toss out charges against a Florida businessman whose lawyer claimed that presidential adviser Karl Rove set off probes against his client to retaliate for a flood of spam e-mails to President Bush."
"U.S. District Judge Laura Taylor Swain cited prosecution arguments the criminal case against Robert McAllister was started three days before the e-mails were sent in January 2005.
McAllister, 49, of Jupiter, Fla., is accused of manipulating stock prices. He could face up to 65 years in prison if he is convicted of conspiracy to commit securities fraud, wire fraud and mail fraud between 2002 and 2005 in a stock manipulation scheme. He pleaded not guilty Friday."
"The probe began when a staff accountant at the Securities and Exchange Commission was told McAllister had made telephone threats against a stock promoter related to McAllister's events promotion company, Millennium National Events Inc., federal prosecutors have said.
Prosecutors said McAllister hired stock promoters and promised them shares in his company."
read it here
-The Repbulicans in congress have taken us from a surplus to a deficit nearly twice its size. (I don't have the figures but I'm sure that someone here does.)
-Nearly half our national debt is now by foreign entities. More than enough money to grant those nations significant sway here in the United States.
-In 2001 George Bush authorized a full scale military assault on terrorism, a tactic of warfare not an enemy, and as a result of poor planning excaserbated anti-American sentiment throughout the world.
-Also in 2001 George Bush authorized war in Afghanistan, which has resently seen an increase in Taliban and Al-Qaeda activity as a result of our presidents decision to shift focus onto Iraq.
-The invasion of Iraq established that the administration relied upon faulty and sometimes purposefully misleading intelligence concerning Weapons of Mass Destruction to get us into the country and that they failed to prepare for the post-Saddam atmosphere encountered.
-The administration has failed miserably in its responsibility to secure the United States from potential terrorist attack by not taking Mexico to task on its inability to patrol their Northern border. The administration has also failed to uphold current laws that would make it easier to prevent enemies from violating that border.
King George spied on Quakers.
Quakers are not terrorists!
Marine, let them have them. It would teach the Republicans a good lesson and cripple their campaign contributors. And it would show Americans just how stupid the Republicans and their multinational friends are.
Of course, the Communists will confiscate those assets. Squatter's rights. It's a universally accepted practice. And there will be nothing that the neocons will be able to do about it
When I think of all the time and effort put into this insane outsourcing fiasco. Well, it will hurt them not us.
Posted by SandyH on October 31, 2006 at 07:44 PM
This can help Democrats big time Sandy. If they propose to come to the rescue.
Posted by rashlimbo on October 31, 2006 at 07:52 PM
Then they should have never taken that kind of risk. Just like Cheney and the boys should never have taken the risk going into Iraq without a contingency plan or any plan for that matter but to exploit the natives.
We can weather anything that happens just as long as the voters learn a lesson not to trust these incompetent GOPers again. My parents lived through the Great Depression and were stronger for it. They dearly loved FDR and were loyal Democrats till they died.
Cheney Accuses Democrats Of Trying To Influence US Elections
Speaking on Fox News, Vice President Dick Cheney accused Democrats of timing their political attacks and advertising campaigns to influence the midterm elections set for next week.
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This is pretty funny. So, as opposed to what ... the Republicans? The entire Republican campaign strategy has been one big attacl campaign. Look at what Junior Kean has done to Robert Menendez.
Then that nonsense from Felix Allen ... Geez, I think that the shotgun doth protest too much.
HOW DARE THE REPULICANS FOR TAKING THE TRUTH AND MAKING IT THE TRASH - I say send that trash right back at them!
Stand up with Kerry!
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This is a big joke. No one is paying attention to this except the desparate Republicans. So Kerry mangled a sentence, so what!
Now get this:
Letter from Mike Stark
Richmond Times-Dispatch
Oct 31, 2006
The following is a letter to NBC29 from Mike Stark, the man who was tackled for a comment he made at Senator Allen's campaign stop in Charlottesville on Tuesday.
My name is Mike Stark. I am a law student at the University of Virginia, a marine, and a citizen journalist. Earlier today at a public event, I was attempting to ask Senator Allen a question about his sealed divorce record and his arrest in the 1970s, both of which are in the public domain. His people assaulted me, put me in a headlock, and wrestled me to the ground. Video footage is available here, from an NBC affiliate.
I demand that Senator Allen fire the staffers who beat up a constituent attempting to use his constitutional right to petition his government. I also want to know why Senator Allen would want his staffers to assault someone asking questions about matters of public record in the heat of a political campaign. Why are his divorce records sealed? Why was he arrested in the 1970s? And why did his campaign batter me when I asked him about these questions.
George Allen defends his support of the Iraq war by saying that our troops are defending the ideals America stands for. Indeed, he says our troops are defending our very freedom. What kind of country is it when a Senator's constituent is assaulted for asking difficult and uncomfortable questions? What freedoms do we have left? Maybe we need to bring the troops home so that they can fight for freedom at George Allen's campaign events. Demanding accountability should not be an offense worthy of assault.
I will be pressing charges against George Allen and his surrogates later today. George Allen, at any time, could have stopped the fray. All he had to do was say, "This is not how my campaign is run. Take your hands off that man." He could have ignored my questions. Instead he and his thugs chose violence. I spent four years in the Marine Corps. I'll be damned if I'll let my country be taken from me by thugs that are afraid of taking responsibility for themselves.
It just isn't the America I know and love. Somebody needs to take a stand against those that would bully and intimidate their fellow citizens. That stand begins right here, right now.
W. Michael Stark
Kerry smacks the right-wingers down:
"If anyone thinks a veteran would criticize the more than 140,000 heroes serving in Iraq and not the president who got us stuck there, they're crazy. This is the classic G.O.P. playbook. I'm sick and tired of these despicable Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war, but love to attack those who did.
I'm not going to be lectured by a stuffed suit White House mouthpiece standing behind a podium, or doughy Rush Limbaugh, who no doubt today will take a break from belittling Michael J. Fox's Parkinson's disease to start lying about me just as they have lied about Iraq . It disgusts me that these Republican hacks, who have never worn the uniform of our country lie and distort so blatantly and carelessly about those who have.
The people who owe our troops an apology are George W. Bush and Dick Cheney who misled America into war and have given us a Katrina foreign policy that has betrayed our ideals, killed and maimed our soldiers, and widened the terrorist threat instead of defeating it. These Republicans are afraid to debate veterans who live and breathe the concerns of our troops, not the empty slogans of an Administration that sent our brave troops to war without body armor.
Bottom line, these Republicans want to debate straw men because they're afraid to debate real men. And this time it won't work because we're going to stay in their face with the truth and deny them even a sliver of light for their distortions. No Democrat will be bullied by an administration that has a cut and run policy in Afghanistan and a stand still and lose strategy in Iraq ."
So, what was the October Surprise?
A Tuna Noodle Casserole.
The Pugies got nothing and they are going down hard.
From Charlie Cook:
With the election just eight days away, there are no signs that this wave is abating. Barring a dramatic event, we are looking at the prospect of GOP losses in the House of at least 20 to 35 seats, possibly more, and at least four in the Senate, with five or six most likely.
If independents vote in fairly low numbers, as is customary in midterm elections, losses in the House will be on the lower end of that range. But if they turn out at a higher than normal level, their strong preference for Democrats in most races would likely push the GOP House losses to or above the upper levels.
Posted by rjsnj on October 31, 2006 at 08:10 PM
BRAVO Michael Stark!
I believe that we will see an increase in this type of activity in the very near future and also a increase of protests by the citizens who care about this country.
I wonder how much the connection to Condi Rice has to do with this since she was on the Board at Chevron. Nice to know people in High Places, esp. when you are in the Oil business!
Govt. Drops Demand for $6M From Chevron
"The Interior Department has dropped a claim that Chevron Corp., shortchanged the government $6 million on royalties from some gas it pumped in the Gulf of Mexico.
The department concluded its case would not hold up before an appeals panel.
The department's Minerals Management Service had maintained that Chevron owed an additional $6 million for gas it took under federal leases in the Gulf between 1996 and 2002 and sold to Dynegy Inc., a company Chevron partially owns.
Essentially, the government argued, that Chevron undervalued the gas it sold to Dynegy. Chevron paid royalties based on a price that didn't represent fair market value, the government auditors said."
story here
Did you all see this Dem ad????
I have not seen it run here, has anyone? It should be run 24/7 from this point on!!!
If anyone here has direct contact with Dem leadership please persuade them to drive home this blatant use of gestapo tactics on Michael Stark. This is a classic example of abuse of power when a citizen is trying to ask a legitimate question and becomes a victim of gang warfare.
rash, it's called assault and Michael needs to file charges with police.
On Deorge Felix Allen:
"Ever since my brother George held me over the railing at Niagara Falls, I've had a fear of heights." [Fifth Quarter: The Scrimmage of a Football Coach's Daughter, page 43]
"We all obeyed George. If we didn't, we knew he would kill us. Once, when Bruce refused to go to bed, George hurled him through a sliding glass door. Another time, when Gregory refused to go to bed, George tackled him and broke his collarbone. Another time, when I refused to go to bed, George dragged me up the stairs by my hair." [Fifth Quarter: The Scrimmage of a Football Coach's Daughter, page 22]
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Sweet eh? This why Felix doesn't resonate with the voters who are finally getting to know what a creep he is. Webb is going to take Felix out.
I believe that we will see an increase in this type of activity in the very near future and also a increase of protests by the citizens who care about this country.
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This episode proves that Felix is a goon. Webb IS going to win.
Did you all see this Dem ad????
I have not seen it run here, has anyone? It should be run 24/7 from this point on!!!
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pam,
this is a great ad. The Republicans are:
STAY THE COURSE
STAT THE COURSE
STAY THE COURSE
They are also full of crap that the economy is good. Who gives a damn that the stock market is up. That only benefits a small number of people.
Gas prices are cheaper than a few months ago but that won't last. In general, the economy is dysfunctional.
Posted by PamB on October 31, 2006 at 08:19 PM
Pam, that is a classic. I haven't seen the ad on any MSM. You are correct in saying that it should be run 24/7. It gets undivided attention.
Rasmussen. 10/28. Likely voters. MoE 4.5% (10/3 results)
Lieberman (CfL) 48 (50)
Lamont (D) 40 (40)
Schlesinger (R) 9 (6)
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This is interesting. I don't think Holy Joe has won anything yet. Keep banging at this guy. He's a phoney.
NJ-Sen: Menendez surging
by kos
Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 09:06:29 AM PST
Quinnipiac. 10/23-29. Likely voters. MoE 4.5% (10/4-6 results)
Menendez (D) 49 (49)
Kean (R) 44 (45)
Opinion Research for CNN. 10/26-29. Likely voters. MoE 4% (No trend lines)
Likely voters
Menendez (D) 51
Kean (R) 44
Registered voters
Menendez (D) 50
Kean (R) 38
Strategic Vision (R). 10/27-29. Likely voters. MoE 3% (9/29-10/1 results)
Menendez (D) 43 (41)
Kean (R) 42 (46)
Even the Republican pollster has Menendez surging.
And the other recent polls on this race paint a similar picture:
Research 2000 for the Bergen Record. 10/23-25. Likely voters. MoE 4% (No trend lines)
Menendez (D) 48 (41)
Kean (R) 42 (46)
Bennet Petts & Blumenthal (D) for the DSCC. 10/23-25. Registered voters. MoE 3.5% (No trend lines)
Menendez (D) 45
Kean (R) 36
Rasmussen will show a 49-44 lead when his latest poll is publicly released, just a week after the last Rasmussen effort had the race tied 45-45.
Menendez's lead is real. He's pulling away, following a pro-Demcoratic current across the entire country. And one of the only two Republican hopes for a pickup is slowly fading away.
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I agree Menendez is putting Junior away. Junior has killed himself with rascist commercials. His swift boaters disrespected Italian Americans and they are demanding an apology from Junior.
Now, we will sweep Stender into office along with Menendez. That wuss Ferguson is finished.
ESME - Look at this one, if you get a chance!
"No Penalty for Voting Systems Lapse "
"The Justice Department isn't penalizing states that fail to upgrade voting systems by next week's elections, a requirement passed by Congress in 2002.
Federal efforts to combat election fraud and prevent voter intimidation on Nov. 7 are among the most rigorous ever, Assistant Attorney General Wan J. Kim said Tuesday. He estimated 800 federal observers and monitors are headed next week to oversee elections in 20 states - selected in part because of close races there.
But prosecutors have not penalized states, or tried to hold them in contempt, if they failed to comply with the 2002 Help America Vote Act, Kim said. The law required states to plan for switching to electronic ballot machines and have a voter registration database up and working in time for the 2006 elections."
read it here
Marine, consider it done.
also:
Last night on Olbermann's Countdown, Iraq vet Paul Rieckhoff tossed off a line about politics and Iraq that went something like "politicians in DC seem more interested in attacking each other than attacking the enemies of this country."
Couldn't this be a fairly well-stated retort to Bush's attempt to pile-on Kerry for his poorly worded comment? All Dems (and not Kerry) should flood the cable talk shows after Bush speaks with remarks that go like this: "Republicans would rather attack political opponents than the enemies of America. Word games and smear attacks are really all they know how to do. If they knew how to attack America's enemies, wouldn't they have done more than stay the course for the last three years?"
Can you believe this bimbo actually said this about Michael J. Fox ? CLASSLESS !
Laura Bush on Michael J. Fox: ‘It’s Always Easy To Manipulate People’s Feelings’
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/31/laura-bush-michael-j-fox/
Pamb
Great ad, I hope they start running it in evey area!
I had not seen that one. But I really like it.
Laura Bush on Michael J. Fox: ‘It’s Always Easy To Manipulate People’s Feelings’
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She is a sicko. But what do you want from someone who killed her boyfriend and got away with it. These are born with silver spoons up their rear people. They think they are superior to the rest of the people and can get away with anything. Trash! All trash!
rj,
btw, a Zogby poll has the numbers:
Lieberman 47
Lamont 43
Schlesinger 6
People believe the Republican's numbers are too low. They will come right off Lieberman if they are.
clip of the manhandling or "things like that happen" incident
just an observation, but why isn't the crew bashing macaca today? kerry? good grief, no wonder we lose
Posted by PamB on October 31, 2006 at 08:45 PM
\youse guys are gonna pull this off, sistah! i can feel it in these tired old bones.
btw, a Zogby poll has the numbers:
Lieberman 47
Lamont 43
Schlesinger 6
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Wow! This one is definitely not over. Holy Joe hasn't won anything. I think you are right. Schlesinger will pick up in the double digits. If so that may mean this is really a toss up.
Keep the faith. Keep after this phoney Lieberman.
He is STAY THE COURSE and KISS BUSH's BEHIND.
Posted by rjsnj on October 31, 2006 at 08:45 PM
rj, tonight when i'm having nightmares of the march of the silverspoons updabutz crew, i'm going to blame you! picture it, the head cheerleader and his lovely pickles, dickless and his porn queen, rummy and oh no here comes denny hastert...stop the music!!
Crazy Joe voted for OFTA.
Its time to put the middle class first.
Crazy Joe killed President Clinton's healthcare plan.
Its time to put the middle class first.
Don't believe the polls, Lieberman will win 60% - 40%.
Crazy Joe called for a vote to end debate on the bankruptcy bill.
Its time to put the middle class first.
bush hearts loserman. that should be good for the five points lamont needs.
kerry shoves his fist down bush and cheney and mccain's throats....yeah mutha fuckers let's talk about who has screwed the american soldier and who hasn't for the next seven days....definetly bring that shit on!
Posted by Marine on October 31, 2006 at 08:01 PM
Marine,
The more I think about this, I really hope the Communists do pull the plug on those factories and other assets...instead of expecting American workers to pay off all those useless IOUs that Bush and Republicans have been placing all over Asia and the Middle East.
The people who are to blame for the misguided, irresponsible foreign policy should be the ones who pay for it. I don't want my kids having to pay a huge tax bill for a policy that I never voted for...in fact voted against repeatedly.
Make the capitalists pay the piper themselves. And I bet that;s just what the Chinese were thinking when the nitwits came to them with such an outrageous offer. They took their bait, but plan to push over the boat and drown the ferrets after they have eaten their full.
Some idiot Republican the other day was saying that the Chinese have learned a lot from watching the Republicans and their economic policy...as if the Chinese haven't tried everything in the last five thousand years. But I somehow think they have never seen anything this stupid...ever.
Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki is telling his inner circle that the situation in Iraq is "nearly out of control," according to CBS News intelligence sources.
Pentagon sources tell the network that General Casey will require 100,000 more Iraqi troops than the 325,000 who were to be trained in order to secure the nation. The security situation, however, has worsened and Iraqi troops have proven to be less effective than their American counterparts. Additional American troops may be called up to help train the new Iraqi security forces, and the U.S. may also double the number of advisors in each Iraqi unit.
As of Tuesday morning, the Pentagon is reporting 103 US casualties in the month of October.
Prime Minister Maliki has ordered that all checkpoints in Baghdad be lifted. Lara Logan of CBS News reports that some American troops expect that violence will now increase and are left questioning why U.S. Commanders would allow checkpoints to be removed now. The move is widely seen as a victory for Muqtada al-Sadr of Sadr City, who controls one of the largest militias in Iraq.
Crazy Joe voted for tax breaks for oil companies.
Its time to put the middle class first.
Crazy Joe takes money from big drug companies.
Its time to put the middle class first.
hmmm, well kidz...we know what to do
here's the blacklist
According to the memo, the adverstisers insist that "NONE of their commercials air during AIR AMERICA programming." Among the advertisers listed are Bank of America, Exxon Mobil, Federal Express, General Electric, McDonald's, Microsoft, Wal-Mart, and the U.S. Navy.
i hope somebody will stop G.E. and pull the plug on that damned propaganda machine. listen to the radio, it's retro kewl!
Crazy Joe Lieberman, like George Bush, puts the interests of foreign nations before his own. He and John McCain are after all responsible for establishing a policy that sought regime change in Iraq and got us into this mess. He was, of course, just doing what he thought best for Israel.
same story from another source:
The list, totaling 90 advertisers, includes some of largest and most well-known corporations advertising in the U.S.: Wal-Mart, GE, Exxon Mobil, Microsoft, Bank of America, Fed-Ex, Visa, Allstate, McDonald's, Sony and Johnson & Johnson. The U.S. Postal Service and the U.S. Navy are also listed as advertisers who don't want their commercials to air on Air America.
The ABC memo is evidence of the potentially censorious effect that advertisers' political preferences can have on the range of views presented in the media. When Al Gore proposed launching a progressive TV network, a Fox News executive told Advertising Age (10/13/03): "The problem with being associated as liberal is that they wouldn't be going in a direction that advertisers are really interested in.... If you go out and say that you are a liberal network, you are cutting your potential audience, and certainly your potential advertising pool, right off the bat." (See Extra!, 11-12/03.)
Crazy Joe won't fight the employers who hire cheap labor from Mexico.
Its time to put the middle class first.
rash, was that you who wanted offense? look at this video
A new ad, set to debut at 3:30 today, will parody an ad accused of race-baiting Tennessee Democrat Harold Ford by gay-baiting Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman. An advanced copy of the ad has been acquired by RAW STORY and is viewable below.
The ad, produced by Proud of Who We Are and BlogActive, is a parody mocking the the RNC's now-infamous "call me" ad. That spot, which the RNC eventually pulled this month, showed a scantily clad white actress saying she met Ford at "the Playboy party." It ended with her asking the congressman to call her. Many analysts believe it was produced to play on racist fears of interracial relationships.
The new ad uses the same format to reference Mehlman's widely-rumored homosexuality.
"[I'm] tired of people like Ken Mehlman using lies and personal attacks in an effort to manipulate elections," said BlogActive's Mike Rogers in a statement to RAW STORY. "If Ken Mehlman got the entire mainstream media to give precious air time and column inches to his race-baiting ad, I'm sure they will have no problem reporting the response."
"And," he added, "there's a big difference between Mehlman's ad and our response: Ours is honest."
fade is right. Stay focused. forget Kerry ! Stay on message! IRAQ, IRAQ, IRAQ! Social Security! Medicare Donut Hole, Katrina, Gasoline raping of us, Terri Schiavo, Jobs going out of country, Stem Cell research, Republican's Deficit, corruption, Sexual perversions, Afghanistan,
"House Republicans, increasingly desperate to smear and slime their way out of the myriad messes they have left in their wake, are throwing as much mud against the walls as can be found. In a way, it is all reminiscent of the 2004 presidential campaign, when issues like Iraq, Abu Ghraib, the economy, 9/11, and the continued freedom enjoyed by Osama bin Laden somehow took a back seat to spurious debates over gay marriage and the war in Vietnam.
It worked, back then. Time will tell if it works this time around. There are, you see, an astonishing number of hurdles to be overcome by the GOP in their quest to maintain power. Going negative is all the GOP has left in its bag of tricks, and if the campaign for governor in Massachusetts is any indication - Republican candidate Kerry Healy's relentlessly vicious attack ads against Democratic challenger Deval Patrick have earned her a 25-point deficit in the polls, in a state where Republicans have owned the governor's mansion for going on 20 years - taking the low road may not be effective medicine
It is hard, you see, to overcome stuff like this:
103 American soldiers killed in Iraq during the month of October. 2,816 dead American soldiers killed in Iraq since March of 2003. 44,799 American soldiers wounded in Iraq, many of them permanently and grievously, since March of 2003.
Joseph Leiberman, leading American troops into a quagmire in an effort to please Israelis afraid of Saddam.
No advertiser wants their product associated with the nutty views espoused on Air America.
heading out. Last of the little kiddies have come I guess. (Only had 4)
Have a good evening, Dems.
Posted by fade2bluz on October 31, 2006 at 08:46 PM
fade,
What I find so upsurd about this "much ado about nothing" story is how fast the MSM bought into it without checking out the facts.
It's the most stunning example since Powell's UN presentation of how the American media divas can be manipulated...with us ending up in Iraq with no WMD. While the rest of the world (with only the exception of the usual nutcases in Britan and Australia) weren't taken in for a minute.
The MSM accepts any pablum that they are fed by the White House propaganda machine. It was truly gratifying to see how over the course of a few hours (and some really strong Democrats fighting back) that CNN started to doubt the story they had been pitching steadily from the first lies out of Bush's mouth.
When Lou Dobbs' poll came back 74% believing that Kerry had no reason to apologize, I knew they were cooked...and so did they. All of a sudden this wasn't such a big deal after all; and in fact, maybe the story out of Iraq with the Prime Minister giving in to al Sadr was more important in respect to our troops.
It is incredible how the Republican propoganda machine has become such a part of the daily diet of this and all the rest of these so called "best news teams" in America.
The public isn't buying it anymore. There's no fools like old fools. And that's just what we have running the press these days...old fools and slick chicks with thick lips and no brains.
PAUL....thx for your ans. to my question last night about who pays for all the expense of Bush out stumping for his fellow criminals. Good deal for Bush. Thx to ER for his feed back.
I have a question for Marine if Marine is still out there. I just cought part of this but I believe I heard that some 360,000 guns have been sent to Iraq for the Iraqi military. As I understand it, there are aprox. 300,000 men in the Iraqi military. Tha'ts more than one gun for each Iraqi soldier. Mow it is being reported that 14,000 of these like 346,000 guns have been delivered to the Iraqi military. I not only want to know where the 14,000 "missing" guns are, I want to know where the entire 360,000 guns are. As some one who has seen hundreds of TV shots of the Iraqi military, I have ywt to ever see even one Iraqi soldier equipted with an American made military weopon. All I have ever seen is Iraqi soldiers equipted with AK 47's. I am fairly familiar with the AK47 since I have owned two of them and have fired them occasionally. So, what happened to the entire 360,000 weopons that the Iraqi military was supposed to get? Did we turn this over to come one in the Iraqi government who promptly turned around and sold the weopons on the world black market and pocketed the money? Kinda like the 850 million that Iraqi officials just walked off with. Those guys stole the 850 big ones and split from the country and are living the rich life at the American taxpayers expense in some of the richest places money can buy. Is this what happened to all these weopons. If the Iraqi military is using them, any ideas on which units recieved these guns and why we never see them on TV? If you have any thoughts on this Marine, come back. I would like your imput on this...Thx Oh, by the way, when officials of the Bush administration were asked about the 850 million missing from the central bank of Iraq, they just blew it off, like it was "no big deal" It sure as hell is a big deal to me!
You won't be able to forget about Kerry. His nutty remarks, ridiculing the fighting men and women in Iraq, will be in commericials across the nation.
i come home after a 12 hour day to find kerry up to his neck and foot in mouth. as we all well know there are dems that aren't dems. i feel he is not was he appears to be. after his painfully weak run, i don't trust him. for a "smart" man he just couldn't cut the mustard and match up to the keystone bullys. i wouldn't doubt that he's on the republican payroll same as so many other "democratic" elected officials. why didn't he didn't he fight for Ohio back then. and why this perfectly timed foot in mouth? it's Not a big deal. and people with an average IQ know what he meant. but the republicans are such malicious experts at making mountain out of mole hills. another sad reality is that there are a lot of dumb people willing to believe their crap. if kerry can't help, he should do everyone a favor, face the fact that for all his credentials he's a liability and just go away. how sad.
America, The Best Government Money Can Buy.
Crazy Joe takes money from big drug companies.
Its time to put the middle class first. Posted by pee-wee on October 31, 2006 at 09:11 PM
Crazy Joe's second wife,the one "Mister Morality" cheated on his first wife with, is a lobbyist for the big drug companies. Holy Joe likes to keep his stealing all in the family.
Well, well, well, if it isn't McShithispants.
Posted by Marine on October 31, 2006 at 09:23 PM
Well, well, well, if it isn't Marinie - the liberal weenie.
sandy,
malloy is ranting about how some people have been complaining that kerry should have kept his mouth shut. malloy is putting it right back onto tony snow, where it belongs...
we are far too easily baited by the propaganda machine. really is stunning that our own Democrats would rush to judge the "war hero vet" who misspoke.
we really do eat our own in a hurry
Sorry for the typos....that should read that now 14000 of these guns are reported missing....if these guns were for our military...then that's a different story...but I understood that the entire 360,000 were for the Iraqi military.....thx again!!!!
Well, well, well, if it isn't McShithispants.
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Well, well, well if it isn't Frosty the Cow Pie eater.
Crazy Joe voted to limit the ability of consumers to file lawsuits against abusive corporations.
Its time to put the middle class first.
Posted by fade2bluz on October 31, 2006 at 09:19 PM
Fade, I couldn't get the vidio to run, but I read the script and it is a breath of fresh air. I hope that I can get the vidio later. Thanks.
goodfoe, those weapons are missing now because the military had not the manpower to oversee even the simple task of maintaining weapons accountability. Maintaining accountability of our weaponry is something taken very seriously by all military members. Those weapons are our lives. For accountability of those weapons to have be put off, some serious shortages of personnel must have existed. This kind of thing just doesn't happen.
You won't be able to forget about Kerry. His nutty remarks, ridiculing the fighting men and women in Iraq, will be in commericials across the nation.
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Frosty, the Republicans are a joke. You have nothing at all to offer. No one is going to care about smears against Kerry. Go ahead and waste money on such commercials. Your Pugies are going down hard, you stupid right wing waterboy.
Crazy Joe voted to limit the ability of consumers to file lawsuits against abusive corporations.
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Crazy Joe sucks.
if you haven't seen this one, check it out!
Young woman: "I don't mind having my pocket picked by the big drug companies. They give money to Ken Mehlman."
Man in sunglasses: "Ken Mehlman helped George Bush steal the 2004 election. But uh, what the heck? Doesn't everybody do that?"
Title screen: Ken Mehlman. He's just not straight with Americans.
Voiceover: "BlogActive.com and Proud of Who We Are heartily approve of this parody ad."
Young man in tank top again: "Ken – call me!"
rash, slide the little ball thingie and then it will play. you can move it back and forth, to give it a jump start. you have to see this to believe it! it's hilarious
malloy is ranting about how some people have been complaining that kerry should have kept his mouth shut. malloy is putting it right back onto tony snow, where it belongs...
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This is an incredible non-issue that shows just how desparate the Republicans are. They need to get the focus off of their failures. So what do they come up with? A mangled sentence from a Kerry speech. That's absolutely pathetic. Let them put it in commericials. It will just be preaching to the koolaid drinkers such as Frosty Shit Head.
Weilding the total power of the U.S. with majorites in both houses, the Presidency, and majority assignments to Supreme Court the Republicans have made the world worse. They give a reason. The Republican Presidential Whine: "It's Haaarrrrddd". Means He (and they)are incompetent, have picked incompetents to serve and don't know how to use the unlimited power they have amassed. Except to steal a little money. Totaly whining incompetents.
ButRumsfeld is really good: his whine is "The enemy is smaaaarrrrrt". Apparently he thought they were going to be like he and the other Republican appointees: incompetent as rocks.
More GOP Cutting and Running in House Races
by SusanG
Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 05:55:07 PM PST
A new round of money scrambling begins as reality sets in for the Republican Party, "signaling retreat," according to AP:
Republicans scale back spending on competitive House races in three states
WASHINGTON --Signaling retreat, House Republicans are scaling back television advertising in three highly contested races, officials said Tuesday, including Rep. Curt Weldon's scandal-tinged bid for re-election in Pennsylvania and open seats in Colorado and Ohio.
... The two other races where Republicans are scaling back advertising include the Ohio district that convicted Rep. Bob Ney has represented, and the one Rep. Bob Beauprez vacated to run for governor of Colorado.
... House Republicans have reported spending more than $3 million to hold Ney's seat so far, and it appeared that at least a portion of the money intended for that race will now be spent to help Rep. Deborah Pryce, who is locked in a difficult campaign elsewhere in the state.
The Colorado race pits Democrat Ed Perlmutter against Republican Rick O'Donnell. Perlmutter has led comfortably in recent polls, and Republican strategists apparently concluded the money ticketed for that race could be better spent trying to help re-elect Rep. Marilyn Musgrave, seeking a new term in a different part of Colorado.
In Ohio, Democrat Zack Space is running against State Sen. Joy Padgett. Her campaign has been hindered by Ney's refusal to resign from Congress even though he pleaded guilty to felony corruption charges earlier in the month.
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The Pugies are being spread thinner and thinner. They have more battles than they can fight.
Republican control, doing what the British couldn't, selling America to the Chinese one bond at a time.
malloy ranting about the memo of advertisers boycotting liberal radio
we are way too complacent. i'm going to make an effort to not spend a dime on any of those companies. time to get a mac.
eff microsoft
Frosty, the Republicans are a joke. You have nothing at all to offer. No one is going to care about smears against Kerry. Go ahead and waste money on such commercials. Your Pugies are going down hard, you stupid right wing waterboy.
Posted by rjsnj on October 31, 2006 at 09:33 PM
No one is talking about smearing Kerry. All they have to is replay Kerry saying what he said. Kerry represents the liberal Democrat point of view that the only reasons we have soldiers is because they are stupid enough to sign up. He (you) believe that if we didn't have stupid people we wouldn't have an Army.
He was, of course, just doing what he thought best for Israel.
Posted by Marine on October 31, 2006 at 09:15 PM
And the voters finally realize that's just what's been going down. Our troops are risking their lives in Iraq because of the concerns of the oil industry (thank you, Mr. President, for acknowledging it the other day). Just like Bush doesn't try to broker peace in Palestine because it might not be in the best interests of the Israelis.
What about crafting a foreign (and domestic) policy that is in the best interests of Americans? This is the slogan that will give us the momentum to take the White House in 2008 and many years to come.
I'm so glad Rove crafted this illegal worker wedge issue. It backfired big time on them. Because it plays right into the growing awareness by the middle class that it is being sacrificed for the interests of the ruling class.
The Republicans thought they could stage a "stealth" class war, but now it's obvious that they can't control the lower classes they pissed on. They can't even fool them anymore.
It's just not fair; they worked so hard and now it's crashing down around them. Nobody is as big a fool as they are.
Forget Kerry.
Remember that it was the non-combatant, AWOL chimp and 5 deferment cheneyburton who sent our brave troops to Iraq on a pack of lies. Do they think we are happy with their version of "Mission Accomplished"?
I haven't the time to be politically active.
I feel the need to vent my feelings on why I plan to vote the way I plan to vote this year.
Why do I want to vote a straight Democratic ticket this year?
It's Iraq, but it's not the Iraq War. We're in Iraq. We can't undo that. I don't know if we should stay in Iraq or cut and run. I don't have the time or resources to figure out what we should do in Irag. My gripe is Bush's attitude that he can do whatever he wants because he is the Commander In Chief.
Sure Bush is the Commander In Chief, but that doesn't make him the King or the Emperor. We are a Constitutional Democracy. Congress has a say, or should. The Judicial system has a say, or should. From what I hear, Bush doesn't think he needs to go to Congress for any authorizations. Bush doesn't think he needs to go to the FISA court when he wants to wiretap or hold people.
We need checks and balances in our government. The people in power need to respect these checks and balances, or their actions threaten our system of government. I don't think Bush respects these checks and balances. I think Bush looks for anything and everything that will expand his power.
I want Democrats to win this year. I want a Congress hostile to the President. I want a Congress that will reel in a President that I believe is exceeding his power.
Bush should have gotten authorization from Congress, even a Republican controlled Congress. Bush should have gone to the FISA court.
Bush is the reason to vote Democrat, no matter how one feels about the war in Iraq. Bush needs to be reeled in, and only Congress can do that.
Good evening
After reading something by the Rev. Al Sharpton today, for once I was in total agreement with him. But then it seems in the past year what Al is talking about is pretty much on target with the mainstream. Might not be what folks WANT to hear, but it definitely has some substance.
Now Rev. Sharpton has stated that we blacks in our churches need to step away from that Christian Right rhetoric that they have been running to black folk with about abortion and same sex marriage. Bottom line - as Al and many others know those are personal issues and have absolutely no basis for government inteference. Besides these issues are side stepping the important facts of poverty, lack of healthcare and injustice within the legal system and education that is lacking in depth and substance.
Al states these are the most important issues facing black churches and what they should be placing their focus upon. It is indisputable that there are now 1.1 more African-Americans in poverty now than there were 6 years ago and we're currently running 11 percent unemployment among blacks.
Many so called black conservatives have been sold a bill goods with the Christian Right's philosophy which is rooted in abortion, same sex marriage and self help. The GOP used these folks to pitch their game and convince so many blacks that governmental assistance could never help African-Americans. Of course it can't! Not in the context it has been given in the past in which entire entitlement programs were supposed to cure the ills of generational poverty and discrimination for an entire race of people. Many of these programs were actually purposefully designed traps to keep African-Americans mired even further in the quicksand of impoverishment.
Of course black conservatives quip back with the arguement of more stable homes would produce more jobs and better education. Stable homes? And when did a home produce jobs for people and when did a home develop better school systems? A home may be stable, but still impoverished with no job and better education and ABSOLUTELY no way to produce it because the home doesn't have the resources. Tony Perkins of Family Research Council has been toting out this trash and selling it to black churches and other conservative blacks that will listen. Again where will the resources come from?
I'll tell you where - no where. The Christian Right doesn't even identify with social injustice. They just think the problems will pray themselves away if just ignored long enough.
Social injustice is a term that one just doesn't hear the politicians, DEM or REP, black or white, male or female carry around in their platform of goals. The very term brings them the brand of being liberal. The REPs never identified with being socially responsible and the DEMS are so afraid of being so that hunger is one of the leading social problems that this country has today. Yes, hunger in a nation that can spend billions of dollars to tell another country how to live their lives can' even provide adequete food for it's own citizens.
Rev. Al, they may say you're on your soap box again, but lately you've been dishing some rational sense.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061101/ap_on_el_ge/sharpton_politics
No one is talking about smearing Kerry. All they have to is replay Kerry saying what he said.
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Go ahead and make that commerical Frosty the Asshole. No one cares about a mangled sentence from a speech. It would be the equivalent of Dems making a commerical on 100's of mangled sentences from Bush. Big deal.
By the way, Chris Matthews was already laughing at the ridiculous amount of time that Republicans are spending on Kerry's slip of the tongue. I think it shows how desparate the Republicans. They have nothing at all to show.
Republicans support the troops? What a joke! They led our troops into a war on alie and got over 2700 killed, 100 just last month. They did not provide them with the needed body armor. Rumsfeld even said in effect that it's too bad - fight with the army you have or some such crap. They have cut funding for the VA and short-changed the troops. They would even help the troops who are going bankrupt because of the multiple rotations. The troops know the Republicans suck and so does the entire nation.
Frosty, you lose. Go eat a Cow Pie.
Kerry didn't mangle a sentence. Kerry said that if you don't study hard and get an education you will end up in Iraq. If you are stupid you join the military.
Kerry said it, Kerry is an idiot.
Thank God that fool lost the election.
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OLBERMANN - BUSH IS TOO STUPID TO KNOW WHEN SOMEONE CALLS HIM STUPID!!!
by jaybeck
Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 05:30:05 PM PST
BUSH IS TOO STUPID TO KNOW WHEN SOMEONE CALLS HIM STUPID!!!!Let's all remember this simple meme. I know that everyone is sick to death of hearing about the Kerry brush-up today and the idiot in chief's response, but it is important that we all are ready for the next news cycle if this unfortunate non-story lasts that long. Olbermann has nailed it...
jaybeck's diary :: ::
On both Hardball and Countdown tonight, Matthews and Olbermann REFUSED to take Kerry's comments today out of context. By reading his 'stuck in Iraq' one liner in the context of his speech, it is obvious that Kerry was ridiculing (and rightfully so) the lack of a Bush strategy or even interest in the middle east. Taking Kerry out of context is what it boils down to for the GOP in the next few days and they will be chewing on this into the next news cycle in order to obfuscate and distract from their Dear Leader's complete and utter failure in Iraq.
I am sorry for lack of links in this diary but it is imperative that we repeat the wise words of Olbermann tonight. It is clear from the full text of Kerry's speech that he was criticizing Bush and his failed policies - that his lack of interest or knowledge regarding foreign affairs has led us into a complete and utter disaster in Iraq. There was absolutely NO reference by Kerry to the troops - NONE. BUSH IS TOO STUPID TO KNOW WHEN HE IS BEING CALLED STUPID! Simple and effective.
I will update with transcripts when available if this diary sticks around...but let it ring loud and clear: Bush is an idiot and is too stupid to know when someone is calling him on his lack of intellectual capabilties.
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I agree. Kerry was making a joke about the Dumbya in charge. The joke was not quite delivered right. Okay, Kerry won't be on comedy channel anytime soon. But only right wing koolaid drinkers can believe that he said anything negative about the troops. That;s just foolish. So, go ahead Puggies and waste your money on commefcials based on this joke. The joke is on you.
What the nation cares about is the Republicans failure on Iraq, the economy and weven protecting children from predators. When is that fat slob Hastert going to accept the blame. How about that jerk Bon-er and that thug Reynolds. These people knew about Foley for years and covered up for him. That's a disgrace. Don't try to change the subject just because Kerry is not a comedian. The Republicans however are a bunch of jokers.
Frostie,
You're livng in the past. It's been two years and the great white hunter still hasn't been able to get the deal done in Iraq. He's a dismal failure not Kerry. Kerry still has speech issues but can command major media coverage even for a college appearance.
Bush isn't welcome in most district races. His press conferences resemble a munity on the Bounty. They have been sending out their women folk to defend their policies because Cheney and Bush aren't trusted...even by the fiscal conservatives.
People want our troops out of Iraq. They don't care about crooked, incompetent politicans fighting over their honor. They want them home. And they are sick of all these made up diversions and excuses instead of successful results.
Kerry said it, Kerry is an idiot.
Kerry joined the military and served in Vn.
chillymacmeadowmuffin called him an idiot.
Isn't the muffin guilty of what he is accusing Kerry of?
-The Repbulicans in congress have taken us from a surplus to a deficit nearly twice its size. (I don't have the figures but I'm sure that someone here does.)
-Nearly half our national debt is now by foreign entities. More than enough money to grant those nations significant sway here in the United States.
-In 2001 George Bush authorized a full scale military assault on terrorism, a tactic of warfare not an enemy, and as a result of poor planning excaserbated anti-American sentiment throughout the world.
-Also in 2001 George Bush authorized war in Afghanistan, which has resently seen an increase in Taliban and Al-Qaeda activity as a result of our presidents decision to shift focus onto Iraq.
-The invasion of Iraq established that the administration relied upon faulty and sometimes purposefully misleading intelligence concerning Weapons of Mass Destruction to get us into the country and that they failed to prepare for the post-Saddam atmosphere encountered.
-The administration has failed miserably in its responsibility to secure the United States from potential terrorist attack by not taking Mexico to task on its inability to patrol their Northern border. The administration has also failed to uphold current laws that would make it easier to prevent enemies from violating that border.
Kerry didn't mangle a sentence. Kerry said that if you don't study hard and get an education you will end up in Iraq. If you are stupid you join the military.
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rosty, you really are a right wing jackass. Kerry said the truth. Many young people join the military because they can't afford to go to college. And why is that Republican waterboy? Because your thugs have cut funding for college grants (Pell, Perkins, you name it). Your Republican crooks even made student loans more expensive. That's all Kerry said. You can try to spin it but you are merely being pathetic. It won't sway anyone. Like I said, go ahead and waste money on commercials spinning and twisting what Kerry said. No one will care except idiots like you.
Posted by rjsnj on October 31, 2006 at 09:56 PM
The MSNBC crowd see the handwriting on the wall.
http://www.cozzifantutti.com/blogphotos/notconcerned.wmv
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yeah, I know. Dumbya is truly not concerned about Bin Laden. So, the person who master minded 9/11 gets a free ride while Bush starts a war in Iraq for no reason at all. The Republican rubber stamps that backed such a policy are a disgrace.
The MSNBC crowd see the handwriting on the wall.
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I think that's why they gave Olbermann a free hand. They know that the Republicans are in for a beating.
Sockpuppets and manure-spreaders be damned. "Joan" is an RNC operative. Frosty is a plant, and I mean that in the most immobile, brainless way possible.
Get behind John Kerry. He screwed up a joke and the Republiclones run with it. But they will only get away with this smear if we let them.
Congresscritters, keep your cojones and stand behind this one. The rightwingers will lose this fight if we hold the high ground. The truth is Kerry's barb was aimed directly at Bush, not the troops in harm's way. Everyone there knows it, everyone who reads his remarks in context knows it.
DO NOT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THEIR LIES AGAIN. EVER.
US Rep. Charles Rangal stands to get the chairmanship of the powerful Ways and Means committee if the DEMS take the House. A politician of my liking not because he's black, but because he has a social conscious. He has represented my home district in New York for over two decades and has constituents who know the face of poverty.
I guess that's why he called Cheney a son of a bitch the other day. He knows what he is and knows he has been the one really pulling the strings behind the idiot Bush. Hmm.... and they say Rove is Bush's brain. Damn, the man is pathetic, he's gotta have a prop for everything.
Charlie they say if you do ascend to the chairmanship, that you will undo all of the Bush administrtion's tax cuts that only benefited the rich.
Start chopping.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061101/ap_on_el_ho/cheney_rangel
U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 2,816
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By The Associated Press
October 31,2006 | -- As of Tuesday, Oct. 31, 2006, at least 2,816 members of the U.S. military have died since the beginning of the Iraq war in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count. The figure includes seven military civilians. At least 2,258 died as a result of hostile action, according to the military's numbers.
The AP count is two more than the Defense Department's tally, last updated Tuesday at 10 a.m. EST.
The British military has reported 120 deaths; Italy, 33; Ukraine, 18; Poland, 17; Bulgaria, 13; Spain, 11; Denmark, six; El Salvador, five; Slovakia, three; Estonia, Netherlands, Thailand, two each; and Australia, Hungary, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Romania, one death each.
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The latest deaths reported by the military:
-- A soldier was killed Monday by small-arms fire in western Baghdad.
-- A soldier was killed Monday when the vehicle he was riding in was struck by an explosive south of Baghdad.
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The latest identifications reported by the military:
-- Marine Lance Cpl. Troy D. Nealey, 24, Eaton Rapids, Mich., died Sunday in Anbar province; assigned to Marine Forces Reserves 1st Battalion, 24th Marine Regiment, 4th Marine Division, Lansing, Mich.
Bush, the man who failed to respond to a clear warning from intelligence officials thus single-handedly ensuring the successful completion of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, is now responsible for putting an unrelated threat in Iraq ahead of efforts to dismantle the network responsible for masterminding and training the suicide bombers who devistated Americans so.
Sockpuppets and manure-spreaders be damned. "Joan" is an RNC operative. Frosty is a plant, and I mean that in the most immobile, brainless way possible.
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Of course, Frosty is a plant and one that is covered in cow dung. Don't know who "joan" is or even care. Let the Puggies waste their time and money on something no one cares about. We'll spend out time and money on the actual races.
Kerry told Bush he is stupid. Bush too stupid to understand. Bush tells Kerry he should apologize to the soldiers...who are in Iraq because Bush is stupid. ?
Good evening
I'm the terrorist you get if you vote for democrats.
I will raise taxes - GW's, Dick's, Rummy's, Condi's and even Bill and Hillary's - Kerry's too.
I will use their taxes to pay for education and health care for my family and yours.
I will demand answers from GW and co. I will not go quietly into the good night.
I will press for our troops to leave Iraq and finish the job in Afghanistan.
As an added bonus, I promise to properly color-coordinate the new drapes in my office.
I also promise never to pose with more than one American flag behind me.
gregg, can you believe this?
The wife of U.S. Rep. John Sweeney called police last December to complain her husband was ``knocking her around'' during a late-night argument at the couple's home, according to a document obtained last week by the Times Union.
The emergency call to a police dispatcher triggered a visit to the couple's residence by a state trooper from Clifton Park, who filed a domestic incident report after noting that the congressman had scratches on his face, the document states. No criminal charges were filed.
Gaia M. Sweeney, 36, told a trooper that her husband had grabbed her by the neck and was pushing her around the house, according to the document.
Kerry told Bush he is stupid. Bush too stupid to understand. Bush tells Kerry he should apologize to the soldiers...who are in Iraq because Bush is stupid. ?
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It's pathetic. basically folks, this is a classio head fake. The Puggies are trying to distract from their failures and throw us off by shifting the focus to a non-issue. This is my advice - blow it off, it won't effect even one race.
evening dems- not a big fan of peter beinart, but this article he wrote back in '02 is well worth reading (or rereading as the case may be)- sums up the hypocrisy and fraud of this administration and what is left of the republican party:
Future historians will note that it took a grand total of eight days. When the Republicans swept to victory on November 5, they rushed to reassure the nation that, this time, they would not overreach. They would govern as they campaigned: on an agenda that commands broad popular support. They would not reward their big-money backers at the public's expense. They had learned the lesson of 1994.
Turns out they lied. Eight days into this new era of Republican dominance, George W. Bush's GOP has not merely succumbed to Gingrichism; they've surpassed it. The 1994 revolutionaries, after all, only sacrificed social justice to their K Street cronies. In a time of war, the Bushies have now sacrificed patriotism as well. .....
The lesson is painfully obvious. Parties show their true colors not during elections, when they need to appeal to swing voters, but after they have won elections, when they feel politically secure enough to do what they really believe. And the bald reality of Bush's Republican Party is that, in the absence of countervailing public pressure, corporate special interests trump everything, including patriotism. In the last couple of weeks, many Democrats have looked at their incoherent, timid party and wondered why they bother. Now Tom DeLay, Lott, and Bush have provided an answer. With this Republican Party as the alternative, how can it not be worth the fight?
The 4th Congressional District race has tightened considerably, according to a new independent poll released today, with Democrat Angie Paccione now showing a slight lead that's within the survey's margin of error.
The poll by RT Strategies and Constituent Dynamics showed Paccione with 48 percent of the vote, Republican incumbent Marilyn Musgrave with 45 percent and Reform Party candidate Eric Eidsness with 5 percent.
The latest poll was conducted Oct. 24-26 of 991 respondents in the 4th Congressional District. A previous poll by the same two companies - one that regularly polls for Democrats and the other for Republicans - showed Musgrave with a six-point lead in late August. Margin of error of both polls was plus or minus 3.1 percent.
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Do you see the patern yet? More and more races are becoming competitive as the election draws near. That signals the potential for a Democratic blow out. Keep focused, do something to help in a race near you. Let the Puggies waste their time and money on stupid crap.
If you haven't seen the clip of Allen's brownshirts manhandling the blogger, who was--admitedly obnoxious--NOT heckling--watch it. Libby Dole is talking about it like she's Scarlett O'Hara...
no wonder that guy needs free samples of viagra...
J, I have long admired Rangel. He may be the Lone Ranger...or the Cavelry...or who ever the guy is who rides in and returns saneness to the $ part of the govt.
Posted by pee-wee on October 31, 2006 at 10:16 PM
hopefully, we won't be drinking it in the future, pee-wee
we don't need bombs, guns and missles
we've got the dollars and we won't spend them on these companies.
i wish...i know i won't--except i don't know how to get around the post office one. for sure, i won't join the navy
Obviously, liberals must not like doritos, cheetos, or fritos.
Fade - That new ad against RNC's Melhman is great, I hope they aire it everywhere!
I'm sick and tired of these far right Republicans and President Bush as well for trying to pull a cheap political stunt by trying to twist the meaning John Kerry's words. John Kerry clearly explained he wasn't insulting the troops and that his comments were being directed at the Whitehouse because of Bush's failed Iraq policy. The Republicans and President Bush as well are doing these cheap attacks because they are trying to take the attention off of their own failures which is why Democrats have to fight back and don't let them get away with it, keep hammering on the real issues such as the failed Iraq policy, the fact that Republicans voted to give themselves a raise yet repeatedly voted against a raise in minimum wage which hasn't been increased in 10 years, health costs are soaring, etc.
I'm sick and tired of these far right Republicans and President Bush as well for trying to pull a cheap political stunt by trying to twist the meaning John Kerry's words.
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kicking, look at it this way. If this is all the Republicans have, they are finished!
Posted by pee-wee on October 31, 2006 at 10:20 PM
we'll have nicer asses
fade, those corporations are doing something that is very bad for business, they are limiting exposure and giving potential customers a reason not to buy their products. You can be sure that their stockholders will suffer as a result of this foolishness.
fade, HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!
this is amazing!
must get to the albany paper and read it all. could be bush's favorite piglet ( besides rush ) is going down....
I just had a ham sandwich with lays sour cream & onion chips. But the people at lays doesn't want my friends to have the same experience.
Posted by dk2 on October 31, 2006 at 10:21 PM
it's an independant ad, of course. i love it!
ken, call me
LMAO
ten years ago, if you had told me i would cheer this sort of thing, i would have absolutely denied that as a possibility. they've dragged us all down into the dirt. but now that i'm down here, i've learned that mud-wrestling can be fun.
YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS
How senators voted on key issues
Source: http://www.cnn.com/lou
The 46 senators who voted AGAINST raising the minimum wage:
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Frist (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lott (R-MS)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Roberts (R-KS)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sessions (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Posted by gregg on October 31, 2006 at 10:24 PM
no shit! can you believe it? that chanting and candle lighting ceremony really worked, buddy!
we can't make this stuff up!!! sweeeet
You can be sure that their stockholders will suffer as a result of this foolishness.
Posted by Marine on October 31, 2006 at 10:24 PM
I'm off the week of November 7th. when i sober up (tequila is NOT on that list), i will post contact information and organize a boycott, if it hasn't already been done. i say this expressly because i'm certain that someone will beat me to it.
i will boycott everything but the post office. i don't use them much anyway...UPS donates to rethugs anyway, so that is not much different'
when this election is over, i'll be contacting sponsors and doing my stealth stuff, with sticky notes
this is an outrage!
look at it this way. If this is all the Republicans have, they are finished!
Posted by rjsnj on October 31, 2006 at 10:23 PM
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I agree which is exactly why I keep saying for Democrats to keep hammering on the real issues. Republicans are desperate trying to twist Senator Kerry's words around because Republicans know the voters are angry and see their failures which is why they have resorted to such cheap attacks. Most clear thinking voters will see right through what these far right Republicans are doing, voters what change not more of the same and they know that in order to have a change for the better that they need to go vote for Democrats.
Posted by fade2bluz on October 31, 2006 at 10:12 PM
Damn good thing my husband is a dem.
What's with the way repugs treat women? Move mistress into mayor's mansion, beat mistesss, choke wives and the all time great Allen apparently gets his jollies spitting on women.
They must be missing pages out of their Bibles.
republicans are thrilled that bush is debating kerry about the iraq war as they try to get elected...thrilled! from the ny times:
...In the process, Mr. Bush brought renewed attention to the war in Iraq, which he defended with vigor while campaigning in Georgia, at the very moment that a number of Republican Congressional candidates, following the advice of party strategists, were stepping up their efforts to distance themselves from the White House on the war as the campaign enters its final days.
“President Bush isn’t getting our frustrations — it’s time to be decisive, beat the terrorists,” Mike McGavick, the Republican candidate for Senate in Washington, said in an advertisement that began running this week. “Partition the country if we have to and get our troops home in victory.”
In Rhode Island on Tuesday, Senator Lincoln Chafee, a Republican struggling against a challenge from Sheldon Whitehouse, an antiwar Democrat, began a new television advertisement reminding Rhode Island voters, “I stood against the Senate and president and voted no” on the war.
In a debate a day earlier, Mr. Chafee signaled an openness to calling for Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld to step down; Mr. Whitehouse has been pressing Mr. Chafee to do just that in his television advertisements. In Tennessee, Bob Corker, a Republican candidate for Senate, said it was time for a new plan and a change in leadership at the Pentagon.
In New Jersey, Thomas H. Kean Jr., the Republican challenging Senator Robert Menendez, has started a new advertisement that says he wants to “change the course in Iraq; Replace Rumsfeld.” In Indiana, John Hostettler, a Republican congressman, reminds voters in his latest advertisement that he voted against the invasion of Iraq because “the intelligence did not support the claim that there were weapons of mass destruction there.”...
I also had a slice of kraft cheese on that sandwich. Don't they own the New England Patriots?
They are showing a great documentary on the Discovery Times about the lack of any FEMA recovery effort in the aftermath of Katrina in New Orleans.
This is what the nation should be talking about. Why did this happen in America? Why were those people left to fend for themselves in the richest country on earth? This is America....but you wouldn't know it the way the Republicans have let it go to hell.
Shame on you, Mr. President.
And shame on the Republican-controlled Congress for letting him get away with such inhumane, negligence on such a grand scale. Why was there never an investigation to find out how it was alllowed to happen and insure that it never happens again?
Well, Frostie. Why not?
Were your heros in Congress too busy taking bribes and hiding the sexual predator they needed to hold onto that seat in Florida?
fade it was the tana leaves that the egyptian priest told me to burn...the mummy lives!
They must be missing pages out of their Bibles.
Posted by dixiehen on October 31, 2006 at 10:32 PM
Well, the certainly have a problem with pages.
Posted by SandyH on October 31, 2006 at 10:33 PM
Sandy - add it to the list of impeachable items!
yeah, gregg...i can "barley" believe the way this is falling...allen's crew going ape-shit crazy on a blogger, and now this!
i laughed when i read that the officer is on ice for a while. guess they don't want him to talk, or maybe he's practicing his spelling. either way, this is damaging.
as i see it, the central issue of this midterm election is nothing less than an affirmation of who we are as a nation and what we want to be in the future. we have seen during the past 6 years people who's only concern is to accumulate vast amounts of wealth and power determing nationl policy for the benefit of themselves while neglecting the welfare of everyday common hard working people. our education is less than it should be, our health and the health of our environment is faltering, taxes are down ever so slightly for most and significantly for a few, our constitution is ignored, unilateral administrative policy is rubber stamped by a look the other way congress, our infrastructure is crumbling while we send money, jobs, and resources to other countries, and we are in no way safer now than before 911. the central cause, the reason our country is languishing in a quagmire of corruption and desceit is, of course, iraq. like black holes in the center of galaxies, it devours all in it's path. frostymcnumbnuts and his rediculous associates and his dark hero, bushdork, have sent us down a dead-end road to oblivion. they have rubbed our country's nose in the mud and muck of international humiliation. well, in less than one week the voters of this country will prove they are not as easily swayed as laura bush might suppose. the american public, feed up with all the crap, will shout loud and clear for a new direction, a new hope, and a brighter furture. perhaps then, the power mongers will understand...they are no longer relevant.
give 'em hell, dems!
Posted by SandyH on October 31, 2006 at 10:37 PM
booowah!
Frosty, I read some of your comments and you're acting like a child looking for attention. It's clear that you're a Republican so why are you posting on a Democrat blog? Don't you think it would better if you go post on your own party blog where your comments would be more welcomed?
Did anyone know about this: How strange!
"George Allen's Sister Recalls His Beatings"
THIS certainly ought to be getting a little more media play:
Republican George Allen's sister has published a cringeworthy biography entitled "Fifth Quarter: The Scrimmage of a Football Coach's Daughter" (available at Amazon.com here).
Among some of the more revealing excerpts relating Allen's characteristic "compassionate conservatism", we find:
"Ever since my brother George held me over the railing at Niagara Falls, I've had a fear of heights." [Fifth Quarter: The Scrimmage of a Football Coach's Daughter, page 43]
"We all obeyed George. If we didn't, we knew he would kill us. Once, when Bruce refused to go to bed, George hurled him through a sliding glass door. Another time, when Gregory refused to go to bed, George tackled him and broke his collarbone. Another time, when I refused to go to bed, George dragged me up the stairs by my hair." [Fifth Quarter: The Scrimmage of a Football Coach's Daughter, page 22]
read it here
post on KOS
Posted by BoilerMan on October 31, 2006 at 10:39 PM
Well said.
give 'em hell, dems!
Posted by BoilerMan on October 31, 2006 at 10:39 PM
said well, John! how you doin'?
Everyone is claiming the John Kerry's slip is harming the party... STOP WHINING AND GET BEHIND HIM! Yes, it will keep the issue on the TOP of the NEWS, the republicans treated our troops like uneducated, unworthy NOBODIES. Sending them into this war, for unclear reasons, with poor body armor, poor vehicle protection and getting them STUCK IN IRAQ with no clear way out... You will see the republicans run from this issue then.
They are showing a great documentary on the Discovery Times about the lack of any FEMA recovery effort in the aftermath of Katrina in New Orleans.
This is what the nation should be talking about. Why did this happen in America? Why were those people left to fend for themselves in the richest country on earth?
Posted by SandyH on October 31, 2006 at 10:33 PM
I'll tell you why they couldn't respond to Katrina and the citizens of New Orleans. Forget the fact that the agency was headed by incompetents all the way to Bush himself.
The reason they couldn't help those people because they were too busy trying to extract and extort back assistance given to approximately 400,000 Florida residents during the 2004 hurricane season through threatning letters and administrative hearings. Through their're incompetency about 75% of those given assistance were in error due to THEIR mistakes.
If they made such a monumental screw up in Florida, what could you expect in New Orleans.
Posted by fade2bluz on October 31, 2006 at 10:47 PM
doing fine, fade...but i ain't john!..:) btw...thanks. and thank-you, sandy. have really enjoyed what you guys have been posting.
cheers
from Independent Institute's Ivan Eland: some three word slogans for the mid-term election week--
“Lying into War”
“Adventure in Anbar”
“Concealing the Quagmire”
“Bloodbath in Balad”
“Death Squad Derby”
“Rampage through Ramadi”
“Mess in Mesopotamia”
“Help for Halliburton”
“Desperately Seeking Stability”
“Irate in Iraq”
“Wrong-Way Rumsfeld”
“Saving Private Rights”
“Cheney’s Chairborne Chauvinism”
“Mission (Utterly) Impossible”
“Freedom at Gunpoint”
“A+ for Aggression”
“T for Torture”
“Fist for Fallujah”
“Fools Rush In”
“Mission Accomplished—NOT!”
“Flowers for al-Gernon”
“War and Pieces”
“It’s Strategery Stupid”
“Texas-style FUBAR”
(plenty more at Consortium News)
J
Maybe it's past time for a Spike Lee documentary on the FEMA screw up in Florida from the year before. I've heard bits and pieces here and there but never a full account.
Cheers, boilerman. (sorry, i thought that was your name...)
where the hell is DPD?
Posted by gregg on October 31, 2006 at 10:33 PM
Sure that's what the say now - change the course, but what have the bobble heads in congress been doing to change the course in Iraq?
GW has more controlled audiences for his speeches, wonder if the loyalty oath still applies?
I can smell the blood - GW is too stupid to figure out he's been called stupid, but some MSM are pointing it out to viewers. Laura and Rush going after Michael J. Fox. Lynn Chaney being proven by Wolf she's a liar. Dick is stuck in a time warp.
Now, if we can just GOTV in numbers big enough to counter koolaid drinkers and voting machines
this election energy is bringing out some great writing. from Robert Parry, one of the best:
Basically, it appears that the President believes that the American people are very stupid.
Posted by Actionmac on October 31, 2006 at 10:47 PM
Now that's the attitude.
If Michael J. Fox can fight back against Rush regarding medications, we should be helping Kerry fight back regarding Iraq.
And that is what this whole swiftboating ploy is about....taking the heat off Bush on Iraq. They always fall back to their support the troops mode when threatened.
And boy do they feel threatened.
I wonder how the troops really feel about being used as a shield by these chickenhawks?
J
Maybe it's past time for a Spike Lee documentary on the FEMA screw up in Florida from the year before. I've heard bits and pieces here and there but never a full account.
Posted by SandyH on October 31, 2006 at 10:53 PM
Something to think about Sandy. The truth of the matter is that at the time of the Katrina catastrophy FEMA actually did have the funds for such a major disaster. Yes, they were cash strapped. Through my ex who is in a high level management position with Emergency Management in the Department of Community Affairs with the State of Florida, four hurricanes in six weeks in Florida had put the agency in a situation.
John Kerry was a loser before we nominated him.
John Kerry was a loser when we voted for him.
Nothing has changed.
Please, for the love of God, tell John Kerry that he is irrelevant.
Has John not yet accepted that he lost the election in 2004?
Tell John that GW just waxed him again at our expense.
Is that what he intended to do? the ultimate Halloween political trick?
Tell John to take his ego and his mouth and go fishing until we send for him.
We Democrats cannot afford his insensitivity, his indiscretion, his arrogance, etc.
Franklin Temple
PS. In the mean time, will the Chairman kindly stick a stock in John’s mouth?
Dick is stuck in a time warp.
Posted by dixiehen on October 31, 2006 at 10:56 PM
Dixie,
Dick thinks he's in charge of a Nazi concentration camp?
Come to think of it, he's always had that Cornel Klinke sort of look to him. When he started shooting people in the face, we should have known where his true talents were...water boarding and a wife driven to lesbian fantasies.
And I always thought Gonzales was the real sadist in the bunch. Looks like none of these people are happy with their lot in life and want to make sure everyone else is as miserable as they are.
Posted by J on October 31, 2006 at 09:42 PM
I have long liked Al. I'd vote for him any day.
Posted by SandyH on October 31, 2006 at 11:01 PM
I think Kerry handled it well.
If anyone owes our troops in the fields an apology, it is the President and his failed team and a Republican majority in the Congress that has been willing to stamp -- rubber-stamp policies that
have done injury to our troops and to their families.
My statement yesterday -- and the White House knows this full well -- was a botched joke about the president and the president's people, not about the troops.
The White House's attempt to distort my true statement is a remarkable testament to their abject failure in making America safe. It's a stunning statement about their willingness to reduce anything in America to raw politics. It's their willingness to distort, their willingness to mislead Americans, their willingness to exploit the troops, as they have so many times at backdrops, at so many speeches at which they have not told the American people the truth.
full text at johnkerry.com
The best way we can get behind him is to keep on point - Iraq, economy, stupid.
I am amazed that with all the potential news stories, the major media networks have chosen to focus on one ill-considered comment made by John Kerry. When compared with actions taken by the GOP in recent years, John Kerry’s comments have not harmed the troops.
It was George Bush who ultimately decided to enter Iraq without first formulating a victory strategy and an exit strategy. It was George Bush and the GOP leadership who rushed us into war without first adequately considering whether or not our purported reasons for going to war with Iraq were legitimate. Three and a half years after we went to war, 103 U.S. troops have been killed in a single month due to Bush's poor policy decisions and his poor management of the Iraq War. Bush should apologize to the troops for going to war without a clear plan, and the GOP congress should apologize not only for acting as Bush’s rubber stamp, but for enthusiastically encouraging Bush to put our young men and women at risk in Iraq without clear victory strategy and a clear exit strategy.
Bush and the GOP have acted to harm our troops far more than a lone Senator's ill-advised comments ever could.
Social injustice is something that we all share. As citizens of this nation, we should all be aware that for the grace of someone great above, we could be walking the same trails of those who have had and continue to wrestle with life's ups and downs just to keep a roof over our heads, food to eat, a livelihood to pay for those two basics and transportation to get to the livlihood.
The DEMS have in many ways stepped firmly away from social consciousness in fear of being labeled "liberals". The time has come to stand and be counted. If the American people give the DEMS the opportunity to "make a change", let's hope they don't forget that they're is more on their plates than the war in Iraq, the economy, taxes, the price of oil, etc. The impoverished in this country, white, black, red, yellow should not be forgotten.
A social conscious, something that's stunted in this country right now.
Good night
oops, looks like I just pulled a John Kerry
It's Iraq and the economy, stupid - not that anyone here is stupid
Posted by J on October 31, 2006 at 10:06 PM
Glory Hallelujah!
Praise Be.
rangel, war vet. war vets seem to be getting some good shots in lately:
Abandoning the civility most often shown to a fellow lawmaker, Rep. Charles Rangel has called Vice President Dick Cheney a "son of a bitch” for charging that the New York congressman would destroy the economy if Democrats take control of the House...
"So if a man like Charlie Rangel were to be chairman of the committee, and sitting there with the gavel, all he has to do is not act, just don't call up the legislation, and there'll be a big tax increase.”
When contacted by the New York Post, Rangel fired back: "He's such a real son of a bitch, he just enjoys a confrontation.”
Rangel claimed Cheney may need to go to "rehab" for "whatever personality deficit he may have suffered.
"When you have those sorts of problems, you're supposed to seek help," Rangel added. "He acknowledged that he has problems with communication."
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Asked if he was charging, as he did last year, that Cheney was mentally ill, Rangel made a reference to the vice president’s accidental shooting of hunting companion Harry Whittington earlier this year:
"I don't think he's shot anyone in the face lately, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt."
According to the Post, Cheney spokeswoman Lea Anne McBride wouldn’t respond directly to Rangel’s attack.
While they’re at it, Bush and the GOP should apologize for their economic policies. George Bush and the GOP have pursued policies that have led to a perpetual negative savings rate and the economy is slowing much more than economists expected. During Bush's Presidency, it has become apparent that the yuan is grossly undervalued relative to the dollar. This has caused our trade deficit to balloon and has encouraged outsourcing. Our trade agreements with China must be renegotiated. It has become apparent that existing tax loopholes that subsidize the outsourcing of manufacturing jobs must be closed in order to allow U.S. based manufacturing firms to compete. Bush and the GOP have failed to close the loopholes and they failed to effectively negotiate with China.
Compounding the problems with our ballooning trade deficit, Bush and the GOP have managed to create several enormous budget deficits. Over time, deficits cause interest rates to rise, which increases the cost of borrowing. This increased cost of borrowing reduces the demand for housing and business loans. Additionally, increased deficits cause the federal government to spend its money on servicing the debt as opposed programs that help the economy, such as national security and education. When Bush took office, the government spent 10 cents out of every dollar servicing the debt. After 6 years of Bush, the government spends 18 cents out of every dollar servicing the debt.
In addition, Bush and the GOP have not adequately invested in education. During the last 5.5 years, they have failed to raise the cap on graduate student loans. They have failed to increase undergraduate financial aid at an adequate rate to keep pace with increasing tuition costs. They failed to fund “No Child Left Behind.” As a result, students in our public schools are being left behind. An educated workforce is a more productive workforce, but Bush and the GOP fail to grasp this concept.
Now everyone was surprised to learn this week the economy is teetering on the brink of recession. GDP grew at an anemic 1.6% rate in the most recent quarter. Consumer confidence fell during October. Consumers are using any money they receive to attempt to climb out of debt.
Worse still, Bush is not committed to alternative fuel research. If we can develop an alternative fuel to oil, it will improve our national security and improve our economy. If we can supply our own energy needs, this will create additional jobs in the United States. If an expanded war breaks out, we will need to fuel our planes and we will need to be able to manufacture new planes. The policies embraced by Bush and the GOP have subsidized the outsourcing of our manufacturing base and have failed to substantially reduce our dependency on foreign oil.
In short, John Kerry said something stupid, but John Kerry's ill-chosen words mean little when compared to the GOP's actions during the last 6 years. Bush and other GOP leaders should apologize for their actions. Actions mean more than words.
ammo dump video...kaboom!
THis is a good quality home video from the troops over iraq. The explosions are defening as the ammo dump burns up and bombs start going off with the intense heat. The Fight For Democracy is worth the kaos.
Gregg -
"I don't think he's shot anyone in the face lately, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt."
Gotta love Charlie Rangel
Posted by Hrolfr on October 31, 2006 at 11:04 PM
I believe the MSM on reflection is now saying the President needs to put a sock in it....he took Kerry's comment out of context. There’s nothing like taking a really good observation (but a poorly worded joke) and using it as a diversion from one's own failures.
The Great Failure/Decider under the direction of the Great Manipulator bought himself about a three hour reprieve from the reality of his failed war in Iraq. Nothing can mask the fact that Al Sadr is gaining on Bush fast.
The White House is dancing as fast as they can, but nobody is giving them a very good score for their performance at this stage. Maybe it's the costumes?
Had to come back to say -
A MAJOR CONGRATULATIONS ON PASSING THE BAR, KEV.
(I am glad for you - and never had a doubt)
(have you decided when you can run for something even if it is only school board or city council?)
have a great night KEV.
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Read him a passage from Lynne Cheney's book, Sisters?
And with that, I'm saying good night, too.
October 31, 2006
Statement of John Kerry Responding to Republican Distortions, Pathetic Tony Snow Diversions and Distractions
Washington – Senator John Kerry issued the following statement in response to White House Press Secretary Tony Snow, assorted right wing nut-jobs, and right wing talk show hosts desperately distorting Kerry’s comments about President Bush to divert attention from their disastrous record:
“If anyone thinks a veteran would criticize the more than 140,000 heroes serving in Iraq and not the president who got us stuck there, they're crazy. This is the classic G.O.P. playbook. I’m sick and tired of these despicable Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war, but love to attack those who did.
I’m not going to be lectured by a stuffed suit White House mouthpiece standing behind a podium, or doughy Rush Limbaugh, who no doubt today will take a break from belittling Michael J. Fox’s Parkinson’s disease to start lying about me just as they have lied about Iraq. It disgusts me that these Republican hacks, who have never worn the uniform of our country lie and distort so blatantly and carelessly about those who have.
The people who owe our troops an apology are George W. Bush and Dick Cheney who misled America into war and have given us a Katrina foreign policy that has betrayed our ideals, killed and maimed our soldiers, and widened the terrorist threat instead of defeating it. These Republicans are afraid to debate veterans who live and breathe the concerns of our troops, not the empty slogans of an Administration that sent our brave troops to war without body armor.
Bottom line, these Republicans want to debate straw men because they’re afraid to debate real men. And this time it won’t work because we’re going to stay in their face with the truth and deny them even a sliver of light for their distortions. No Democrat will be bullied by an administration that has a cut and run policy in Afghanistan and a stand still and lose strategy in Iraq.”
...i think i like the "doughy rush limbaugh" part best. hey a little parking lot fist fight is a good way to get the blood pumping for 11/7...
Kev
Actions mean more than words.
You hit the nail on the head. GW and co say the same things over and over and over and over believing people will ignore their actions/lack of actions.
This is the cached page with the video
"Intelligence indicates that civilians aligned with a militia organization were responsible for last night's mortar attack," Withington said in a statement without elaborating further on what group it may have been.
The Islamic Army in
Iraq, a nationalist anti-occupation insurgent group, claimed responsibility earlier in a statement posted on the Internet.
SandyH,
AMEN, Bush should either talk about the issues or not speak. Each time I listen to him, I hope he'll realize the flaws in his policies and his reasoning, but each time I am disappointed that I only hear more of the same crap. It appears as though the Country is going to be on the wrong track for at least two more years, and it's a shame. It's a shame we don't have a President who is capable of contemplating the possibility that he made a mistake.
i think i like the "doughy rush limbaugh" part best. hey a little parking lot fist fight is a good way to get the blood pumping for 11/7...
Posted by gregg on October 31, 2006 at 11:38 PM
i like the whole thing, gregg...
DK2,
thanks! I'm not going to run for anything for a couple of years. I have a lot of debt and I need to get my financial ducks in a row.
let's see fade, lil'kim's nuke was gonna turn it all around for the republicans...not, then webb's book was gonna bury him...not, now kerry getting lots of time on television pounding the president is gonna do it....oh and a few hours ago bushed issued his veterans day proclomation...a week and half early....yup that's the ticket....if i were the republicans i'd be trying to hide in a lifeboat disguised as someone's grandma cause the ship is sinking fast.
Congratulations, Kev
gregg
I don't know that I would be much help in a parking lot fight, but I am pumped. Kerry attack by stupid GW may just backfire big time.
gregg,
so many of the things that we couldn't control, that good stuff in the truth realm, is exposing itself.
tastefully. like the little tid bit on sweeny. like the page scandal. and the the macaca allen keeps stepping in....
it's enough to make katherine harris look good.
okay, that was pushing it. my dad gets to vote against her. yeah!
dixie, just keep canvasing and phone banking and let the rest amuse you. the more we talk about iraq, the more bush sinks...and remember this election is all about george w bush...nothing weighs as heavily as the country's hatred of this asshole.
Gregg
Right on!!
Have to go for the night - but want to pass this on
Letterman - just ran clips
FDR - We have nothing to fear but fear itself
JFK - Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.
GW - Let me tell you a story --- some usual GW stumble, double speak about relatives
Night all - keep the faith
six days to go...as malloy says, "keep it lit"
goodnight, truthseekers.
SandyH,
Thanks. You know, it's kind of bitter sweet. I was listening to the news this morning, and I can't believe some of the things that I'm hearing about the law. I'm referring to election law. Have any of you heard about what's going on in Ohio?
Different counties are requiring different forms of identification in order to allow individuals to register to vote. Some counties prefer utility bills to prove that an individual lives within a given county. Some prefer driver's licenses.
I'm not familiar with Ohio law, but many states require fairly extensive documentation before they will issue a driver's license. A simple birth certificate is not enough to get a driver's license.
I find this disturbing. It's almost like a poll tax. We are not requiring that you own a house, but if you want to vote, you better own or rent a home. You better pay utilities. You better drive a car. I'm very disturbed and upset when I hear things like this. The right to vote is so sacred and so important. It is supposed to be one of the cornerstones of American Freedom, and these sleazy politicians in Ohio are desecrating that right.
Oh, and did I mention that the politicians in Ohio who passed this legislation were predominantly Republicans? This actually makes me sick to my stomach. As much as I disagree with Republican voters, I fervently support their right to vote. I support their right to disagree with me. To have them attempt to disenfranchise the homeless and the poor, those individuals Republicans assume will vote for Democrats, is disgusting and disgraceful.
If Bush and the GOP were truly interested in spreading democracy throughout the world, one would hope they would do that by creating and supporting a democracy here in the United States that would be the envy of the world. In such a democracy, one would hope that all adult citizens, regardless of their economic status, would have the right to vote.
Now a Minnesota congressman candidate (they didn't say who) has canceled Kerry coming to his/her campaign event tomorrow.
He has become an embarassment.
Holy cow, is right.
Is this the ammo dump that blew up October 10, 2006 or is it another one? I saw a January 15, 2006 date, too.
I remember CNN showing some of the October fireworks...but they didn't get the footage of what was obviously one of those shock and awe, mother of all bombs mushroom clouds.
Rumsfeld is an idiot. Why are we allowing him to play with guns? Our troops are just sitting their in a bunker watching missles flying toward them. Just how much ammo is in each of those permanent bases waiting to be blown up along with our people?
Keith Olbermann needs to show this footage. It's an indictment of gross negligence by the Pentagon that a mortar shell delivered by a rag tag guerrilla operation could get so close to this big of a ammo dump. Maybe Katie Couric would like to grown up and show it, too, on the CBS Nightly News?
But of course the locals know where we stock everything. So much for staying the course if this is the course we are drifting in.
Thanks for posting this, you guys. I'm bookmarking and sending it off to my list.
Good night.
Iraq ammo dump attack
Posted by Domingo on October 31, 2006 at 11:40 PM
I heard a real brief comment on progressive radio the other day that indicated that over 300 Americans died as a result of the ammo dump mortar attack.
Have you heard anything? Obviously the criminals don't want this information to leak out just before the election or they would be SOL.
Posted by FrostyMcCowpies on November 1, 2006 at 12:00 AM
Take a look at that video. How'd you like to take a field trip to an Iraqi ammo dump, troll? Feeling good about the Commander-in-Chief?
We are getting our asses whipped by a bunch of desert rats because there is no enemy to fight...only locals who will do anything to get us to leave. And Rumsfeld is making it so easy for them.
The insurgents are safe at home in Saudi Arabia watching the whole show on Al Jazerra. They must be real happy with the returns they're getting on the funds they send to their Sunni brothers in Baghdad.
Who doesn't respect our troops? Bush is a turd blossom.
Unbelievable There's so much of this stuff coming at one time it's almost like Divine intervention's exposing it all.
RENO, Nev. -- Nevada's race for governor was barely a contest at all until it took a scandalous turn a few weeks ago, when a cocktail waitress accused Rep. Jim Gibbons (R) of trying to sexually assault her in a parking garage after a night of drinking just off the Las Vegas Strip.
The lurid allegations in the closing weeks of the campaign have put the race back in play and put the one-time Republican front-runner on the defensive. Policy issues have taken a back seat to dueling news conferences, a burgeoning criminal investigation and a mystery over what exactly is on the parking garage's surveillance video.
Happy Anniversary Afghanistan
(ya think maybe the Kerry thing is a distraction?)
On the fifth anniversary of the start of the Bush administration's war in Afghanistan, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld wrote an upbeat op-ed in the Washington Post on that hapless country's "hopeful and promising" trajectory. He cited only two items as less than "encouraging": "the legitimate worry that increased poppy production could be a destabilizing factor" and the "rising violence in southern Afghanistan".
::
When the Bush administration invaded Afghanistan in October 2001, poppies were grown on only 7,600 hectares. Under the US occupation that followed the defeat of the Taliban, poppy cultivation spread to every province, and overall production has increased exponentially ever since - this year by 60%.
::
more nutso contradictions from the bush crime family
Gregg,
Thanks for pasting Kerry's response. I think it was a good response.
Republicans do have a habit of inventing and distorting Democrats' statements. It is easier to argue against an invented overly simplistic argument or statement than it is to address your opponents strongest arguments. It makes for good politics, but it also makes for horrible policy. This is because it causes the person who is arguing against a strawman to ignore the flaws in his own reasoning. Bush argues against strawmen all the time. Hence he avoids the inconvenience of self-criticism, but in avoiding this inconvenience, he also avoids growth and progress.
simple question. you kid has to go into battle. which one would you pick for his or her platoon leader.
a. george bush
b. dick cheney
c. donald rumsfeld
d. rush limbaugh
e. john kerry
good nite.
New York Daily News is running with the Sweeny scratches ...
Commentary from Josh Marshall, one of the best:
It's time for the closing argument. The issue of the day may be Iraq. I think it is. But an issue isn't an argument. An argument brings the issues together and motivates action. So what's the argument? What should candidates and surrogates be saying at campaign stops this week?
I think it comes down to this. Beyond the incompetence, the bungled policies and the lies (which are plenty bad enough), where the country finds itself is a situation in which the leadership of the country either can't see, or won't see, or most likely wants to pretend not to see what a growing majority of the country clearly can see.
It's most clear, most visible in Iraq. Though there's a bit less consensus on whether it was a mistake from the outset, there's an overwhelming consensus among Americans today that Iraq has become a disaster for the United States and that it's not going to get better on the course we're now on.
But the president just says, No. Sure, there are a few bumps along the way. But fundamentally it was a good idea, we're doing the right thing and we're on the right track. No matter what however many people tell him, that's what his gut tells him so it's full speed ahead. He's going to stay the course right over the cliff.
goodnight Democrats
He has become an embarassment.
Posted by FrostyMcCowpies on November 1, 2006 at 12:03 AM
When he finally learns how to tell a joke right, he'll be invited again.
When Bush finally learns how to achieve a victory out of this mess he's created in Iraq, he'll be back in Texas retired and reading more Shakespeares at his presidential library.
i think my asshole congressman may just answer my prayers and get his sorry ass kicked out of office. this seemed impossible a month ago but with great material like this:
Albany Times Union
By BRENDAN J. LYONS Senior writer
Click byline for more stories by writer.
Last updated: 8:53 p.m., Tuesday, October 31, 2006
CLIFTON PARK -- The wife of U.S. Rep. John Sweeney called police last December to complain her husband was ``knocking her around'' during a late-night argument at the couple's home, according to a document obtained last week by the Times Union.
The emergency call to a police dispatcher triggered a visit to the couple's residence by a state trooper from Clifton Park, who filed a domestic incident report after noting that the congressman had scratches on his face, the document states. No criminal charges were filed.
Gaia M. Sweeney, 36, told a trooper that her husband had grabbed her by the neck and was pushing her around the house, according to the document.
Sweeney campaign aide Maureen Donovan issued a statement late Tuesday attacking the authenticity of the document, labeling it ``a piece of campaign propaganda.'' The six-line statement does not address whether police were called to the residence for a domestic dispute that evening.
The Times Union confirmed several months ago, through multiple law enforcement sources, that State Police had responded to the Sweeney residence in early December to investigate a domestic dispute. The sources confirmed that Sweeney had scratches on his face when a trooper arrived, but they provided no additional information about the incident...
---and the fact that his 19 year old kid fractured someone's skull a year or so ago and that there are photos of the congressman shit faced at some frat party this past winter and that he has a history of pulling false fire alarms and so on...well he might just be road kill. not to worry though bush will probably get him a job in homeland security...
nite fade. thanks for the sweeney tip. it will make that phone banking feel so much more fun tomorrow.
idea one: with the welcome to the real america along with the racial slur used by george allen caught on video rolling. follow it with the voice over... george allen, if he talks like this when he knows the cameras are rolling , imagine how he talks about us (or american citizens) behind closed doors...
idea two: george allen attacks jim webb for exercising his right to free speech when he wrote books about the horrors of war.
its no wonder george doesnt know anything about being in a war zone. he was on a dude ranch while jim webb was answering his countrys call and earning three silver stars and a bronze cross.
poor george, he doesnt know fact from fiction.
i also have another generic one to be used in any election framing the candidates opponent as being a rubber stamp for bush. use several clips of bush using the democrats are measuring for drapes as though they have already won quote. then show the clip with bush on the aircraft carrier with the huge mission accomplished sign in the background and a voice over saying , george bush ( and his republican ally in the senate - insert name ) know all about celebrating early dont they.
Well all, I am heading to bed, but before I go, I thought you might like a chuckle. Looks like Barney has bailed!
Keep phone banking, canvassing, donating, lighting candles...hell I don't care if you drink the blood of an owl and dance naked under a full moon, if you think it would be helpful for us on Tuesday, go for it!
simple question. you kid has to go into battle. which one would you pick for his or her platoon leader.
a. george bush
b. dick cheney
c. donald rumsfeld
d. rush limbaugh
e. john kerry
good nite.
Posted by gregg on November 1, 2006 at 12:17 AM
I would vote for all of the top 4. I would stay home if e. was the only choice.
Rasmussen 10/26 - 10/26 500 LV 45% 50% Cardin +5%
Washington Post 10/22 - 10/26 1003 LV 43% 54% Cardin +11%
Yeah, Capt. aWol, 2 Lt. Other Priorities, and Ensign Peactime Pilot and Dr. Feelgood...Suuurrreeee I would take the guys who have never been there over the guy who actually, you know, saved his crew when the shit hit the fan.
You are as laughable as any troll on any board anywhere.
Goodnight.
Frosty,
The open thread is all yours. Have fun talking to yourself. We all need a good laugh in the morning. Good night!!
Judge rules in favor of the Denver Three (folks kicked out of Bush Social Security event for not being true believers), rules case can go to trial.
-- Josh Marshal
Two people ejected from a speech by President Bush in Denver in 2005, allegedly because of an anti-war bumper sticker on a car they drove to the event, won a court order Monday they hope will uncover who gave the order to kick them out.
Leslie Weise and Alex Young, two of the three people removed from the taxpayer-funded event, are suing two Denver men for actually ousting them. But they believe a White House official gave the order.
Weise and Young say they did nothing disruptive at the speech and maintain the ouster violated their rights to free speech and protection from unreasonable search and seizure.
Dorsano,
Wow, I haven't heard about that NV scandal. Amazing. I'm having trouble keeping track of them all.
Duke, Delay, Frist, Plame (libby/rove), Abramoff, Nay, Foley (Hastert), Weldon ( U.S. Congress - lobbying scandal in PA), Sherwood (U.S. Congress - affair and abused wife PA), and now this scandal in NV with the governor... I honestly can't keep track of it any more.
I just saw something on the news yesterday about Republican operatives jamming the democrats' headquarters in NH in 2002. There was additional voter intimidation out in CA.
My head literally hurts thinking about all the GOP scandals. I'm going to go to sleep.
Goodnight everyone.
Virginia Senate Race CNN 10/26 - 10/29 597 LV Allen (R) 46% , Webb (D) 50% Webb +4.0%
New Jersey Senate Race CNN 10/26 - 10/29 577 LV Kean (R) 44% , Menendez (D) 51% Menendez +7.0%
Poll Date Sample DeWine (R)* Brown (D) Und. Spread
CNN 10/26 - 10/29 542 LV 43 54 3 Brown +11.0
Rasmussen 10/25 - 10/25 500 LV 43 54 2 Brown +11.0
SurveyUSA 10/23 - 10/25 563 LV 37 57 6 Brown +20.0
SurveyUSA 10/28 - 10/30 525 LV 46 49 4 McCaskill +3.0
Rasmussen 10/29 - 10/29 500 LV 47 48 5 McCaskill +1.0
Rhode Island College 10/23 - 10/25 408 RV 33 43 24 Whitehouse +10.0
Mason-Dixon 10/18 - 10/20 625 LV 43 48 9 Whitehouse +5.0
Rasmussen 10/19 - 10/19 500 LV 44 52 2 Whitehouse +8.0
Fleming 10/11 - 10/14 402 LV 42 46 12 Whitehouse +4.0
ya know sally if this shit holds you lose the senate...but not to worry the big kerry thing and the kim thing and the webb book will turn it all around ... hahahahahaha
hey dors, didn't see you sneak in. Randi Rhodes played the 911 call from the woman as she was running away. unbelievable.
i've got to hit it. nice to see you
and you too, bluegirl
i'm across the river in the metro east. go claire!
nite blue girl, nite kev ( and congrads), nitefade, nite david, nite john boy...
After hearing and watching all that went on today with Kerry V Bush I think an apology to the troops is justified. Make that 2872 apologies from Bush to the mothers, fathers, sons and daughters of the troops that have died in Iraq.
So, to put it in perspective on one hand you have a botched joke, on the other hand 2872 deaths. Hmm... which do you think out weighs the other?
Goodnight, Greg, Kev and BlueGirl
You all have probably seen this Rasmussen Poll via dkos.
Lieberman Lead Declines - Lieberman (I) 48% Lamont (D) 40% Schlesinger (R) 9%
Lieberman's support among Democrats is eroding - from 41% to 30% since the primary.
Democrats
Lieberman 30 (41)
Lamont 65 (58)
Schlesinger 3 (1)
If Schlesinger can pull 14% (5% more) that will likely bring Lamont within 4% - an amount he has a chance to make up with a strong volunteer base and a strong GOTV effort.
Posted by fade2bluz on November 1, 2006 at 12:45 AM hey dors, didn't see you sneak in.
I'm beat. Catching up on the news. Off to bed soon.
I missed the Kerry flap today. I assume he told the truth and the GOP took offense.
Am I wrong?
Posted by gregg on November 1, 2006 at 12:45 AM if this shit holds you lose the senate...
"You"? Rank and file Republicans aren't posting here. Just moonbats.
You've been phonebanking too much. Take a break. Be careful not to confuse your concern for the country with someone's else's desire to cause you pain.
I see there are a few "closet" republicans here. People like Frosty might think they are disrupting a Democratic forum, but it is just proof of the democracy of the Democratic party. They haven't really been flamed or blocked.
My own concern with Kerry, and I was an active supporter in the last election, is that he did seem to draw back and refuse to attack at the last, when there was plenty to chew on with Bush and his people. He seemed to try to stay above the fray. You don't come out of elections with any kind of a reputation unless you win. Remember, only winners write history. I got a kind of uneasy feeling about him when he kept his Senate seat. It would be hard to measure how many more votes "putting everything he had" into the campaign would have gained him. As it was, if he lost, he would still be Senator. I don't think that was lost on too many people. It looked to me that at the last he was unwilling to burn bridges that would be useful if he remained as Senator. He had enough weight behind him, with his war record of personal courage and his career in government, to have attacked like an avenging angel with a fiery sword astride a great white horse (imagery). Instead, he seemed to be the effete wealthy easterner who didn't really want to get down in the pit and fight dirty. And he lost. And we were condemned to two more years of stupidity, lies, death and defeat.
Republicans may have stolen some votes, but it only helped because it was so close to begin with.
I don't want anyone to think I don't like Kerry. He is a great American and I agree that this recent "problem" really isn't. It is a distraction.
Sorry, I'm still a Gore supporter. I see some other strong candidates coming up. I hope Kerry doesn't muddy up everything by trying again. He just doesn't have the "right stuff". Gore has matured (I liked the beard) and I think he would be formidable. I doubt he would pull any punches this time.
Clinton? I doubt she will run. If the Dems take the Senate, she will probably be in line for Senate Majority leader, a position sometimes more powerful than President, and she can stay in it longer than eight years! Note what happens to people who become President while still fairly young. Afterward, they rattle around like a rock in a can trying to be relevant. From emperor to eunuch.
Right now, her role is deflecting attention and attacks on other potential Democratic candidates. In 2008, if not a candidate, she would be the parties hero, and probably a king-maker as well. If she does announce as a candidate, all that evaporates immediately. Actually, there has never been anyone in the position she finds herself in now.
The Republican party has devolved into a tightly controlled unprincipled commercial machine, without a clear focus as to it's purpose for existing, other than to win by any means possible. Once they have done that, they are lost, and they are ready to sell out to more commercial interests to finance the next election theft.
You will see real politics in the next two years, within the Democratic Party, as the potential candidates try to line up support, with that Clinton gorilla in the room. No one wants to completely alienate her, just in case she doesn't run, and will be available for an endorsement! In the meantime they have to defend her tooth and nail as the apparent front runner for the party. It's going to be fun.
George Allens goodfellas moment. If there were no cameras George would have had that guy dragged from the back of a pick up truck.
Oops, sorry I forgot. The first rule about the Allen club is you don't talk about Allen club...
Bush made the mistake of saying out loud what the Republicans think. There are a lot of things Republicans are supposed to keep secret in election years, queer Republican congressmen, a man's right to beat his wife, social security confiscation and hate for the American working man.
>I?I missed the Kerry flap today. I assume he told the truth and the GOP took offense.
Am I wrong? Posted by dorsano on November 1, 2006 at 01:13 AM
He said what he said, then the liar repugs started howling that he said something else. It's kinda like when they claimed Al Gore said he "Invented the internet". Repubs will always lie every chance they get. It's their nature. Just look at our resident rodent as exibit A.
The Blue Wave
Stephanopoulos: "Well, the polls are pretty stable and they're still showing a pretty solid Democratic lead and Democrats are still predicting a wave and they're now playing in Republican states like Kentucky, Nebraska, Wyoming
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Meanwhile, Rush Limbaugh is giving some advice to the people who make him rich."Wake Up! You Don't Deserve To Lose ... Just imagine an ocean, blue wave coming right at you"
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Democracy is great - but as great as it is, more often than not, voters are denied a scaple and have to rely on a chain saw when performing surgery on government.
Maybe that's why SAW III is so popular now.
This is from the Iraq and Afghanistan veterans themselves.
A ranking by grade (A-F) of all the senators and representatives who voted for supporting the troops and those against.
The repugs talk a good game but their grades are failures according to the veterans themselves.
Posted by Domingo on November 1, 2006 at 01:50 AM He said what he said, then the liar repugs started howling that he said something else.
Yea. I heard a lot of that sort of thing over the last few days - I've been catching up on the debates for state and and national offices here.
The GOP candidates do seem to be trained to put words into peoples' mouths that they can then talk about.
I suppose because if they had to talk about what they had in mind for the country, we'd try to find some way to deport them.
Sorry, I'm still a Gore supporter. I see some other strong candidates coming up. I hope Kerry doesn't muddy up everything by trying again. He just doesn't have the "right stuff". Gore has matured (I liked the beard) and I think he would be formidable. Posted by coeur-de-fer on November 1, 2006 at 01:36 AM
How'd ya like it when they lied about what Al Gore said six years ago just like they did to Kerry today? I remember a lot people back then saying they "hoped Gore didn't muddy up everything by trying again."
Posted by Bernadette on November 1, 2006 at 01:59 AM A ranking by grade (A-F) of all the senators and representatives who voted for supporting the troops and those against.
Can you post a link to that?
I just heard the Democratic candidate in MN CD1 mention that in a debate. Are you from MN?
Kerry is a diversion from Laura's blunder
If some outcry could be raised about Laura's insensitivity and utter meaness the election would be won. In case you missed it, sweet Laura went after Michael J Fox in a pretty mean way today.
Laura is the last popular WH regular. She is who they have to send when the voters can't stand anyone else. (She's been really busy lately). Wihout her, Bush might be polling in the 20's.
And today, she blew it. Badly.
But it's hardly getting any play because the Wurlitzer is cranking up Kerry. Normally, a First Lady showing any kind of teeth is big news, especially if her target is a beloved young actor whom the nation watched grow up and who is now fighting a dread disease. I'm sure the last topic that the GOP wanted to talk about this week was Iraq, but they have to keep the focus off of Laura's remarks, so they are willing to talk Iraq and Kerry in order to avoid explaining how Laura and Rush Limbaugh are reading off he same page.
Please turn it around. Talk up the Laura story all you can. Here's the link.
Not from MN, from PA but I saw this on Countdown last night but had to wait until today when they posted the transcript from the show and then had to find it.
Posted by Bernadette on November 1, 2006 at 02:01 AM
That one works, thanks.
how do I get it to link?
Click on the little chain icon between the U and the envelope, then paste in the link and hit "enter".
I stayed up too late. Good night, Democrats.
and sweet dreams.
Anyway, as usual when you try to find the truth the sign doesn't say republican.
Posted by Bernadette on November 1, 2006 at 02:20 AM Anyway, as usual when you try to find the truth the sign doesn't say republican.
I'm gonna steal that one.
cya later, aligators.
The Republicans lied all through that election. I don't particularly like them lieing about anything anyone says. One lie isn't any more acceptable than another. But Gore went to the wire. It took a major violation of the constitution by a compromised Supreme Court to steal that election. Then Gore, who did put everything he had into it, went home.
By the way, I saw something today that is a kind of a warm fuzzy, even if it isn' true. The headline on "The Globe" supermarket trash magazine said Laura has divorce papers ready to serve on George. Something like "she just can"t stand it anymore" It may be totally crap, but it will be at the checkout of every supermarket in the nation for the next week! Every housewife buying groceries can't help but see it. Wonder what kind of "Sturm und Drang" that's going to produce?
Fight Rove and destroy him with the force he can't resist: MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE!
Although Rove is managing several other campaigns, he is used to not having much to work with. You've got to hand it to him.. he has done a masterful job of puppetry. He has taken an illiterate cretin and a paranoid, concienceless Asperger's hyena and made them the two most powerful men in the world. His strength is putting simple short sound bites into his puppets mouths and making them sound intelligent. He really is good. Unfortunately, he is an amoral insect that can only survive by skittering around the edges of the room in the shadows of those he contols. If he stood up on his own he would be squished like any other grub that makes the mistake of sticking its head out of it's hole.
After the spin on Kerry's comments, President Bush ask for an apology from Kerry to the troops, I think the party and each and every one of us should have one respond, one united voice to reply to the cinisism of Mr. Bush. I think this is an opportunity to take the GOP spin and make it work our way. I suggest to follow the spin with this unified message:
The truth is that we are stuck in Irak, and president Bush and his congress are the ones who need to apologize to the troops, to the american people and to the world. It is time to held them accountable for that, therefore VOTE DEMOCRAT.
After the spin on Kerry's comments, President Bush ask for an apology from Kerry to the troops, I think the party and each and every one of us should have one respond, one united voice to reply to the cinisism of Mr. Bush. I think this is an opportunity to take the GOP spin and make it work our way. I suggest to follow the spin with this unified message:
The truth is that we are stuck in Irak, and president Bush and his congress are the ones who need to apologize to the troops, to the american people and to the world. It is time to held them accountable for that, therefore VOTE DEMOCRAT.
Spent the last HOUR reading this night's thread.
Sounds like pretty good news for Democrats in the face of Republican manufactured spin. Kerry's punchline, and the laughter that followed, showed one very caustic truth - that this war on Iraqis is a "Jobs Program", and that for every young soldier sent off to war, there are three in these states being trained to take their place. Count the National Guardsmen not working their civilian jobs, and tack on the paltry hundred thousands of civilians who provide transport, rebuilding, security, intelligence, contracting and policing who WOULD ALL BE OUT OF A JOB when the Iraqis take back their civilian control.
The laughter that followed Senator Kerry's comment was a nervous attempt to hold back that stark reality; being in college to build a brighter future while others are given the choice of Bankruptcy or War.
God Bless You John Kerry!
We don't need the likes of you telling us what we want nor deserve, Frosty. You could talk your party into making a few changes for us though. Like appointing a Secretary of Defense who was either willing to be a secretary or one with knowledge of combat, this one doesn't know shit about combat and it shows.
Republicans, drooling all over themselves and pounding the snot out of logic.
The Katrina disaster, just another example of Bush's 'do as I do' policy gone wrong.
It's a shame that Bush can't focus on waging war as well as he focuses on waging politics.
opps! i guess those folks from montana really liked their raw fish. now they are smelling like dead ones:
Abramoff pal highlights Burns staff’s handouts
GOP strategist: Without free sushi, staffers ‘would have starved to death’
By Joel Seidman
Producer
NBC News
Updated: 6:26 p.m. ET Oct 31, 2006
WASHINGTON - Staffers for Sen. Conrad Burns, R-Mont., ate so much free sushi at disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff’s Washington restaurant that people joked that they would have “starved to death” without the lobbyist’s free meals, a Republican consultant says.
“Frankly, it was widely viewed in D.C. that Mr. Abramoff effectively exerted implicit control over Mr. Burns whenever he and his team needed to get something accomplished,” the consultant — Monty Warner, who says he’s still a friend of Abramoff’s — writes in a letter to the editor of the Whitefish Pilot, a weekly newspaper, which was obtained by NBC News.
“Mr. Burns’ staff — and perhaps Mr. Burns — were known to eat free sushi/meals often at Mr. Abramoff’s D.C. restaurant, Signatures, and the joke was if they didn’t, they would have starved to death,” says the letter, which Editor Richard Hanners said would run in the paper’s Thursday edition.
bet there will be some funny ads going up in montana soon...
ahhh conrad...give me a fish and i eat for today,
make that a free fish pass and i will sell you my soul
Consultant’s letter on Sen. Conrad Burns
‘Mr. Abramoff effectively exerted implicit control over Mr. Burns’
NBC News
Updated: 6:26 p.m. ET Oct 31, 2006
Following is the text of Republican consultant Monty Warner’s letter to the Whitefish Pilot:
I am a good friend of the now universally known lobbyist Jack Abramoff and worked with him on occasion in Washington.
I have seen some of the comments your Sen. Conrad Burns has offered about Mr. Abramoff and feel compelled to set the record straight so the people of Montana know the truth.
First, Mr. Abramoff always went out of his way to be accommodating and supportive of Mr. Burns. Mr. Burns gladly and readily welcomed Mr. Abramoff’s support in this regard, and it was clear he often encouraged it.
Mr. Burns’ staff — and perhaps Mr. Burns — were known to eat free sushi/meals often at Mr. Abramoff’s D.C. restaurant, Signatures, and the joke was if they didn’t, they would have starved to death.
Frankly, it was widely viewed in D.C. that Mr. Abramoff effectively exerted implicit control over Mr. Burns whenever he and his team needed to get something accomplished.
Mr. Burns has said publicly that he wished Jack Abramoff had never been born. I think that alone is enough to demonstrate the kind of man Conrad Burns appears to be.
I am a lifelong Republican, but that is one GOP seat I would be happy to lose.
Monty Warner
New York, N.Y.
bush poll, you know what to do:
does bush hurt or help the gop?
wow here is a surprise! and ken maniacman tried so hard what with the katrina effort and the racist ads in tennesse you would thing african americans would be going door to door canvasing for bush....how ungrateful!
Updated: 9:15 p.m. ET Oct 31, 2006
WASHINGTON - So much for the Republican charm offensive toward minorities.
Poll: GOP success with black voters in doubt
Iraq war, economy mean Republican outreach likely to be spurned again
Black voters are far less likely to approve of the way President Bush is doing his job than voters generally and they are more likely to feel that the country is on the wrong track, disheartening news for a Republican Party that has been trying to curry favor with minority voters in recent years.
In what could be a particularly bad sign for Republicans in next week’s midterm elections, black voters also are more likely to say that the Iraq war was a mistake and that recent disclosures of scandal and corruption in Congress will be very important to their vote, according to an Associated Press-AOL Black Voices poll conducted Oct. 23 through Monday.
lest we forget bush and his team's brave service to america....ain't it great bush has made this all news again! soon he will only be able to campaign in mobile alabama....
from kos:
VP Dick Cheney - several deferments, by marriage and timely fatherhood.
Karl Rove, occasional Deputy Chief of Staffand alleged full time smear artist, escaped the draft and did not serve
Secretary of State and former NSA Condaleeza Rice - did not serve
Republican Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist - did not serve.
Republican Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert - did not serve.
Republican Former House Majority Leader Tom Delay - did not serve.
Rush Limbaugh - did not serve
Sean Hannity - did not serve
Ann Coulter - did not serve
Bill O'Reilly - did not serve
Quick post - then it's off to the salt mines for me
Gregg - Jon Stewart - great tape of Burns - GW has a plan for Iraq - but it's a secret plan because he can't tell the whole world - next point - If he told his plan, you (assuming dems) would just blow it.
GW campaigning with him today I think
Rummy - wants 100,000 Iraqi troops - did he fail to mention they would be Americans following Iraqi PM's orders? GW said at 2004 debate we had 100,000 Iraqi's trained. I know he is math challenged, but did GW and co underestimate the number needed?
Press is now reporting bombing at Shite wedding, Shites kidnapped. Is this part of the new DOD PR?
It's not Iraqis but Shites
Will be interesting to see what happens when verdict is issued in Sadams first trial. It is supposed to be given Sunday.
Have a good day all and keep the faith
Good morning, Dems!
Looks like the repugs are spinning their heads off trying to hang Kerry for his words. Amazing that this administration can take us to war on lies, soldiers are dying and getting their limbs blown off, but Kerry is in trouble for speaking the truth. It's no secret that to meet quotas, the bar has been lowered to accept criminals, less educated people, etc.
So, you decide - a preceived insult to the troops or killing and maiming them. What is worse?
i see joan was here yesterday pissed off at kerry. joan is my favorite blogger...well except for dors, lizzy, fade and alot of other favorites..anyhow joan you need to get the whole kerry audio piece and listen to it before judging the one guy we know would go back to pull your kid out of danger in combat instead of thinking bush or rush whose pants would be wet as they ran the other way might.....anyhow an old man rambles joan, my point today is that lately i have been talking about lighting candles for the election and my evil congressman who i am working to unseat just got his ass in a bear trap. check out the story about sweeney at the top right in this newpaper and also read the police report that sweeney claims is "false and concocted"...see you in church joan, i'll be the guy with one eyebrow and the hair shirt...
everytime it rains it rains. corruption from heaven
Mark Foleys 30 day stay in "alcohol" rehab ended on Monday. Of course Foley is staying put for now. He will probably slip out sometime after election day.
Expect a christmas time appearance on Larry King by the ex-congressman.
For Gregg:
POWERFUL UPSTATE Rep. John Sweeney got into an early-morning fracas with his wife that became so frightening she called 911 for help, the Daily News has learned.
Gayle (Gaia) Sweeney told the 911 dispatcher that her husband was “knocking her around the house,” according to a December 2005 state police report obtained by The News.
After Gayle Sweeney said, “Here it comes, are you ready?” the call was disconnected.
http://blogs.nydailynews.com/dailypolitics/archives/2006/10/sweeneys_report.php
from the washington post:
...One GOP strategist, speaking candidly about the president on the condition of anonymity, offered this assessment: "I'd say he's at least 50 percent of the problem." In strongly Republican areas, he said, the president can still rally the party's base, but in more marginal districts, Bush is a drag on GOP candidates. "He's the problem," the strategist said. "He should stay away."...
Campaigner in Chief Has Limited Reach
An Unpopular President Avoids Many Key Races
cyn, fade turned me onto this last nite. the phone banking today should be interesting. i must start going to church again because this is clearly a sign...
Good morning everyone,
I know I'm breaking my own rules again ,but I just wanted to express that I'm so excited about the Election.(Six more Days!)Please,everyone needs to sign up and volunteer for the mass GOTV Campaign in their area.
Okay, Have a great day!
(smak)
Posted by gregg on November 1, 2006 at 06:41 AM help or hurt? 86% say hurt. ouch
Cyn, isn't it amazing. Kerry is no commedian, but the context of those words was SO clear.
this is a powerful illustration of the role the "press" plays in this country's discourse.
speaking of, did you see the blacklist for Air America Radio from ABC? i don't think those companies spontaneously decided this was important--again someone encouraged that.
well, i've got some encouraging ideas of my own, and they involve holding on to my money and not giving them any of it. this is positively making a mockery of free speech. it's frightening
{{{D}}} smak, back atcha! rules are meant to be broken
Laura Bush on Michael J. Fox: ‘It’s Always Easy To Manipulate People’s Feelings’
Think Progress has the video. Kos posted the theory that this was the blunder the Kerry diversion was meant to cover...could be, could be...reminds me of Babs babeling about how lucky those folks were to be in Houston post-Katrina...
gregg,
wowzer! transcripts on the sweeny thing with the photo of him at that frat party. don't forget that one.
the story that should have been out there for us to see, now cached...see the movie of the ammo dump blowing ...bring 'em home
Et cum spiritu tuo
Morning, Fade! Yes, I did see the list on Raw Story and emailed to myself and my family. More companies to boycott.
Cspan has a great election site and a wonderful map on the very right of the main page
lamont ad is great!
sending the Connecticut bloggers all the hope they can stand. you can do it!
same to Lizzy...and all youse guys who are out there workin' it.
gregg, enjoy those phone calls today! thank you to everyone who is in this struggle for real.
LOL Cyn,
we must have been genuflecting as little girls, at exactly the same time...with our little chapel veils on.
have a fantastic first of the month! this feel so good, again...the audacity of hope
Good morning everyone!
I see we have a new open thread with no way to post.
I'm making waves because I'm not going to sit back and take from the Republicans anymore....
GOP says phone calls legal
Denies Democrats’ claim anti-Hayhurst calls were automated
By Sylvia A. Smith
Washington editor
What sounded like prerecorded political calls – which are illegal in Indiana – was actually live people phoning northeast Indiana voters to warn them that Democratic congressional candidate Tom Hayhurst is “wrong for Congress,” Republicans say.
Indiana Attorney General Steve Carter has begun an investigation, his office said.
Several Democrats, including the secretary of the Elkhart County Democratic Party, received the calls Monday and filed complaints with Carter’s office. The voice on the calls they received says the National Republican Congressional Committee paid for the 30-second message and gives the organization’s Web site address.
“I can tell you categorically that the calls are not automated. It’s a human being making those calls,” said Ed Patru, NRCC spokesman.
Susan Yost, who lives in rural Elkhart County, said that when she tried to talk to the woman on the other end of the line Monday morning, the voice “just rolled on. ... I’m one of these people who talks back to the TV, so even after I realized it was a recording, I talked back. There was no response.”
Fort Wayne resident Carol Coen said she received a similar call Monday afternoon from a male voice. She said she was sure it was a prerecorded call because the speaker went straight through the script.
Just because the callers didn’t acknowledge the comments of the people they called doesn’t mean the calls were prerecorded, Patru said.
“It’s not illegal not to take questions,” he said. “There is no statutory requirement for a conversation to take place.”
Patru would not identify the vendor the NRCC hired to make the calls or how much the group paid. He said that when the report of the expenditure is filed – probably today – “you will see the cost was significantly higher in price” than in other districts where automated calls are made. It is more expensive to hire people to make telephone calls than to record a message and deliver it to automatically dialed phone numbers. Political party committees must file reports within 24 hours of spending money to support or attack a congressional candidate.
Since 1988, prerecorded calls – including from politicians and political groups – have been illegal. This year, Carter notified the political parties that automated calls, a traditional political tactic, were against the law.
With the advent of the state’s well-publicized do-not-call registry, he said, “we’ve raised the expectations of people’s privacy quite a lot in Indiana.”
Kathy Harbaugh, secretary of the Elkhart County Democratic Party, said she received the message on her voice mail Monday. She and Yost filed complaints with Carter’s office Monday night.
Staci Schneider, Carter’s spokeswoman, said a letter would be sent to the NRCC Tuesday evening or today. She said an inquiry is launched any time there is a consumer complaint.
Patru declined to release the script the callers used. The message left on Harbaugh’s answering machine said, “The United States now is home to 11 million illegal immigrants, and the number grows every year. But instead of protecting our borders, congressional candidate Tom Hayhurst supports citizenship opportunities for illegal aliens. Tom Hayhurst is wrong on illegal immigration and wrong for Congress. This message was paid for by the National Republican Congressional Committee.”
Martin Green, spokeswoman for Rep. Mark Souder, R-3rd, said Souder had nothing to do with the calls and was “as surprised as anybody” by them.
Hayhurst said Souder should denounce the calls and their content, which he said distorts his position.
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Well darn it, I have a great article to post and refuse to do it at the end of this very long thread.
Hope you are well Greg!
Someone tell Kerry to stop trying to explain what he said and start forcefully demanding that George Bush apologize to the troops and their families for sending them into combat without planning, for sending them into combat without proper protection or an exit strategy, for making an idiotic comment that the mission was accomplished and taunting the enemy to "bring it on" while he was safely thousands of miles away from the battlefield, for not listening to his military leaders when they pleaded with him to send more support for the troops, for a complete lack of understanding of what he was getting them into and making a mess that they are trying to clean up with their lives...
Good morning, all.
“I can tell you categorically that the calls are not automated. It’s a human being making those calls,” said Ed Patru, NRCC spokesman.
Kathy,
Maybe the Republicans clonned some Indian telemarketing guy?
I personally think all Republicans are clonned. Have you ever noticed how they all have the same haircut and glasses and talk with a stiff upper lip like their pants are too tight?
Comments like this are probably why Christy left off the comment section on the new open thread...but still didn't stop me.
Good morning, Dems. freaking slime-ball GOP desperation tactics aside, it's beginning to look a lot like a wonderful early Christmas present across the country in 6 days!
Interesting that the media isn't saying things like... despite what happens on election day, it's clear from the polls and the mood of this country that the Republican-controlled government has failed Americans... this is clearly a referendum on GOP power-wielding... etc. Ah well, off to play with the poll results some more - the NYT predict the turnout thing is addictive!
Kathy,
Keep on rawking, girl! AWESOME rapid response! Some of the most interesting developments happen right here. Activist extrodinairre born on the blog.
Keep on rockin' the boat, {{{Kathy}}}!! I'm so inspired and proud.
Betsy the first few times I heard Kerry's comment I thought 'oh geez, doesn't he get that he isn't funny?' I only just got the connection he was making that Bush was the one that didnt' study and ended up in Iraq.
Kerry did this in 2004 where he spent more time explaining what he said instead of thinking about how his comments will sound in a the 10 second soundbite. At some point he really needs to learn that the attention span of most 6 o'clock news watchers is as short as Bush's vocabulary.
This might not be popular but come on, that was probably one of the stupidest things to say this close to an election. Regardless of what he meant it once again puts him on the defensive and we just don't need that kind of cold water on this fast moving election.
Betsy,
I see you got the point of the initial insulting but word-challenged joke. 74% of Lou Dobbs audience did, too.
Even Tweety was sorry that Kerry didn't register a clean sound bite for his program...it wasn't the message but the fact that the insult about the President didn't come through clear enough to be repeated over and over again.
Bush gets no respect...even from some of his biggest supporters from the past six years.
Betsy,
I see you got the point of the initial insulting but word-challenged joke. 74% of Lou Dobbs audience did, too.
Even Tweety was sorry that Kerry didn't register a clean sound bite for his program...it wasn't the message but the fact that the insult about the President didn't come through clear enough to be repeated over and over again.
Bush gets no respect...even from some of his biggest supporters from the past six years.
Posted by Richard on November 1, 2006 at 07:14 AM
Do you really think he'll be able to stay away from the internet? I believe they said it was his alcohol addition not the computer sex one that they were treating.
Doesn't he have to clean out his locker in the Capital building or something? I can't believe the pazzarazi(sp?) won't be tailing him.
fade,
Wasn't that Mother of All Bomb explosion stunning? I had no idea they made a mushroom cloud. How much did that thing going off cost the tax payers...one or two million? To think a guy with a shoulder launched missle sitting on the back of a camel or the flatbed of a pickup truck could cause so much damage to...the "last great super power" in the world.
Well nothing on the nonopen open thread so I guess I'll post this article here.
Kerry furious over new attacks
"I'm not going to sit around and let these guys create a phony controversy," said the Democrats' 2004 presidential nominee, faulted for not firing back while the Swift Boat controversy burned his candidacy.
Kerry was in Seattle to do a fundraiser for Sen. Maria Cantwell, D-Wash., and afterward he sat down for a lengthy interview. The words that tumbled out of him were not the apology demanded by Bush.
"The president always sets up a straw man because he won't debate a real man," he snapped.
I can understand J. Kerry’s frustration with this administration. Unfortunately, the Republicans are going to capitalize on his mistake. I am so frustrated that the President of the United States is just a silly politician. He has single handedly divided our nation during a time of war. He has thrown more dirt than any thuggish politician. It’s incredible!
Solution: Democrats need to present a powerful national commercial. For example, I remember a national commercial about REGANOMICS, that showed massive rainfall pounding on a roof top that finally trickled down a spout to a homeless man with a tin cup where only a few drops felled. I was about 12 years old and I still remember the message the “rich gets richer and poor gets poorer under Reganomics.
We need a commercial about “stay the course”…show what stay the course has cost us and why we need to have balanced control in the House of Representatives. The message should be “we need a balance government to honor our nation’s values.”
Adolf bush is threatening Nicaragua. If they ELECT Ortega as president, bush will apply sanctions. That dumb asshole has no right to tell Nicaragua how to vote. bush is a total fucking loser.
adolf bush threatening Nicaragua
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