First?

Howard is keynoting the Canadian Liberal Party convention tonight. Any coverage here? Like a copy of his remarks or a video stream?

Good morning everyone!

A little humor this morning from Garrison Keillor.

The fewer the states, the better the union

I'm sitting under a banyan tree in Honolulu with a big glass of pomegranate juice, and the sea is glittering and surfers are skimming in on low waves, and the election is over, so let's all relax and quit irritating one another. OK? Nancy Pelosi, the she-wolf from Sodom, is the madam of the House, so you Republicans just get over it. Cash in your blue chips and invest in gold ingots and maybe real estate in Costa Rica. The black helicopters have landed. Live with it.

Democrats intend to bring reform to Washington, and why not begin with the Senate? It has been sorely in need of reform for a century or so. Two senators per state is a good idea in theory, assuming they are half smart, but then you look at George Allen, a lumbering frat boy from the state of Madison and Jefferson, and you think, whoa, something is wrong with this picture. We need some horizontal control.

Let's start at the beginning and redraw the map. First of all, is there a reason for Wyoming to exist as a state? I have often wondered about this. Why give two Senate seats to a half-million dime-store cowboys while California gets two seats for 34 million people? (Wyoming has roughly the population of Sacramento.) It's OK if Wyoming sends somebody with brains and an independent streak, but when they send a couple of Republican hacks, it makes no sense.

Hi Kristen,

Well, I am off to fight a battle in the "War on Christmas", today we plan on taking Nativity Hill in an all out assault. We will march into battle wearing out traditional "Santa's Helper" uniforms (we don't use the term "elf" it is derogatory), while our white bearded, jolly general barks orders from his slay.

Hi Ranger, happy sleighing ;)

Oops that was supposed to be sleigh!

Man am I stupid sometimes....

good morning friends.

Congress should revamp our broken voting system

We have less than two years to get it right — and I don't mean Iraq, which will only continue to go further wrong.

I mean voting.

Our national voting system (or non-system) is badly broken, and people simply do not have confidence their vote will be properly counted. And with good reason.

Nothing is more vital to a democratic system, yet we have conducted our last two presidential elections under a dark cloud that lingers in 2006 in some of the same problem areas, Florida and Ohio in particular. Voting problems have become a big item in the blogosphere, and errors will be called to public attention.

Good morning Greg! Still basking in the sun out there?

It seems a little harder this year to put on my green tights.

I remember last year, at the battle of Bethlehem, where we advanced the gay agenda nearly to the star, but were beaten back by a counter attack from the Christian Soldiers, resulting in a long harsh winter stale mate.

ok, now where is my pointy green hat?

Got it!, Now I am ready to rumble....

ABC had to pay Murdock $1m because Barbara Walters pulled out of an interview with OJ prior to Murdock killing the book. (yes, I tried to think of something other than killing but sorry...it seems fitting)

Ranger, I'm sure you look quite dashing in your too tight tights and green hat. I'm guessing your opponents will not know what hit them when you come flying into action.

MSNBC Breaking News is that Frist is not going to run for President in '08. :)

kristen...That's really good news that Frist is not going to run....one less of these crimials to deal with.

Good Morning, ALL!!

Mid 60's right now, and a big ol' thunderstorm ushering in the expected high tomorrow of the mid 20's!!!

That so called "controversy" over that Nativity movie is bogus, to say the least. There alredy IS a Nativity scene in Daley Plaza, right next to the Menorrah, and the permanent "Eternal Flame". It is in the busiest part of the Plaza, near the Picasso sculpture.

What this movie studio wanted to do is erect giant Diamond Vision scoreboard like TV screens all over the place which would blast non stop commercials 16 hours a day to the unsuspecting rubes who come into the "Big City" to see the tree. I think the City was right to nix pix for sticks hicks.

Where is H. Clinton?

I often hear the words “a job half done." Does that mean 300,000 dead? The Bush administration destroyed the cog that kept Iraq stable -- the Sunnis. And thereby causing the killing of 150,000 people. Now it is Iraq's job to fix it!!! Of course states around Iraq will help out their "kin." Get real, the Iraq's see a death toll of 150,000 to 3,000 as a joke. Yet the candidates like H. Clinton are afraid to discuss the 150,000 dead. Morals, morals, moral... !?

Can we do something about these fuel prices? It's painfully obvious that their fluxuations are purposefully manipulated, especially this last time. Everyone saw that right? Prices came done until the November elections and then immediately thereafter started to climb.

Marine, I think everyone was very aware that the prices conveniently fell before the election, just as they did in 2004. Bush was doing all he could to distract people from the pain in the wallets.

As we saw from the election results it wasn't enough to keep them voting Pug.

Hey DPD

The storm's pretty violent up here on the north side, and the cold is a comin'! Good thing we are getting in a load of wood for our fireplaces soon.

Marine,

Dream on, they only agreed to cut their profiteering for a very short period before the election, now back to laughing all the way to the bank.

bbl

Wow! The blog is back up...I guess I'm the last one to know. Hello all~!

Ranger, Fire up the Happy Holidays stun gun!

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Reverend elected to take over as president of the Christian Coalition of America said he will not assume the role because of differences in philosophy.

The Rev. Joel Hunter, of Longwood's Northland, A Church Distributed, said Wednesday that the national group would not let him expand the organization's agenda beyond opposing abortion and gay marriage.

This is the latest setback for the group founded in 1989 by religious broadcaster the Rev. Pat Robertson. Four states - Georgia, Alabama, Iowa and Ohio - have decided to split from the group over concerns its changing direction on issues like the minimum wage, the environment and Internet law instead of core issues like abortion and same-sex marriage.

Hunter, who was scheduled to take over the socially conservative political group Jan. 1, said he had hoped to focus on issues such as poverty and the environment.

"These are issues that Jesus would want us to care about," Hunter said

http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061123/APN/611231655

Good morning Blue!

So, how much do you think it would have cost the United States to keep working with Saddam Hussein in Iraq? It's clear now that Saddam didn't have the gumption to fight us the way these Iraqis do and I'd like to know just how much money we'd have saved.

Not to mention all the doggone lives we and the Iraqis have lost.

DPD,

Did you go to see John Edwards? My wife and I had just gotten back from New Jersey, where we visited relatives, and we were too tired from the drive to go.

How was it?

Top o the mornin to you Kristen!

It's a frigid 17 degrees here this morning, but the snow on the mountains is breathtaking.

No, ranger, I didn't make it to either appearance. I was waylaid by out of towners who wanted to be "amused", not "educamated". Typical Texans.

Posted by BlueinIdaho on November 29, 2006 at 11:48 AM

Hey Blue,

We called off the assault today on account of this heavy duty thunderstorm, so the stun gun goes back in the charger.

hope all is well out in your neck of the woods.

Blue, it was a mere 18 degrees here this morning climbing up to the balmy temperature of 22 degrees, it's just too freakin' cold right now to look up at the mountains. (not to mention that we are expecting another round of snow this afternoon so the clouds are low this morning)

I'm really ready for your weather to find it's way back to the eastside of the Cascades and leave us web footed Seattlites alone. :)

Posted by DPD on November 29, 2006 at 11:59 AM

Amused eh? You could have shown him how your property tax bill has doubled because of Bush and his GWOT/Tax cuts--that's pretty amusing.

Posted by Kristen on November 29, 2006 at 12:01 PM

Perhaps I should move to Seattle...I actually have webbed toes. Go figure. I'll be ready when Waterworld comes to pass.

Posted by BlueinIdaho on November 29, 2006 at 12:08 PM

It's definitely bluer over here my dear. :)

Good day, folks.

Posted by DPD on November 29, 2006 at 11:14 AM

DPD,

That Picasso sculpture has to go. It's the worst representation of the Nativity I've ever seen.

Now if they had cast DeCaprio as Joseph, I wouldn't have minded looking at him on several large screens while I downed an eggnog or two...in the spirit of the season, of course.

Hey, did you hear that Stalone is doing a new Rocky movie? I thought he was dead. Yikes. He's coming back from the dead to fight George Foreman in a cooking contest?

Dinner bell ringing. later.

So Bill O'Lielly thinks the solution to the Iraq problem is to install a military dictatorship led by a Strongman. Maybe my memory is fuzzy, but isn't that how it was in Iraq about 3-1/2 years ago?

interesting that bush has put off his meeting with maliki until tomorrow.could bush bring down the government of iraq that his folks basically put in place? could be after all he is doing a good job of bringing down his own government here in the usa.

Canadian troops to get more NATO help in Afghanistan. Canadian troops fighting the Taliban in volatile southern Afghanistan will be getting extra help from NATO countries, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said Wednesday from an alliance summit in Latvia. Full story:

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2006/11/29/nato-afghanistan.html

US forces kill two women in Iraq
US forces in Iraq have killed two women in an air attack on a house in Baquba, a day after five girls were killed by US tank fire in Ramadi.
Full story:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6194484.stm

American military concedes daily toll of civilians likely to rise far above 100.
by: Jonathan Steele in Kirkuk

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1959496,00.html

Report: US Still Manipulating Iraq Intelligence
By Jason Leopold
t r u t h o u t | Report

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/112906J.shtml

German Sues CIA Claiming Torture
Man Names CIA's Tenet; German Chancellor Says U.S. Admits Mistake

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/12/06/terror/main1099246.shtml

FYI, I just created a "peace wreath" design with the words "Happy Birthday, Prince of Peace". Would have had it in a more timely fashion if Demetrius had time to work on it. Me, I'm a Photoshop novice so these things are more labor intensive when I try to do them. Anyway, I've posted that and other news of the day here.

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (CNN) -- Former Secretary of State Colin Powell said Wednesday that Iraq's violence meets the standard of civil war and that if he were heading the State Department now, he might recommend that the administration use that term.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/29/powell.iraq/index.html

Im sorry Colin, IMO, your new found honesty is too little, too late...

L.A. officers cleared in child's killing

The LAPD officers who stormed a South L.A. auto shop last year, killing 19-month-old hostage Suzie Peña during a gun battle with her father, followed department rules and should not be punished, the Police Commission ruled Tuesday.

LA Times

PORTLAND, Oregon (CNN) -- An Oregon lawyer wrongly arrested and accused of involvement in the 2004 Madrid train bombings has settled a lawsuit against the U.S. government for $2 million, attorneys told CNN on Wednesday.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/11/29/mayfield.suit/index.html

Gore: 'I would have heeded 9/11 warnings' and 'Bush is Inept'

How about all the warnings? (on terror attacks

That’s a separate question. And it’s almost too easy to say, "I would have heeded the warnings." In fact, I think I would have, I know I would have. We had several instances when the CIA’s alarm bells went off, and what we did when that happened was, we had emergency meetings and called everybody together and made sure that all systems were go and every agency was hitting on all cylinders, and we made them bring more information, and go into the second and third and fourth level of detail. And made suggestions on how we could respond in a more coordinated, more effective way. It is inconceivable to me that Bush would read a warning as stark and as clear [voice angry now] as the one he received on August 6th of 2001, and, according to some of the new histories, he turned to the briefer and said, "Well, you’ve covered your ass." And never called a follow up meeting. Never made an inquiry. Never asked a single question. To this day, I don’t understand it. And, I think it’s fair to say that he personally does in fact bear a measure of blame for not doing his job at a time when we really needed him to do his job. And now the Woodward book has this episode that has been confirmed by the record that George Tenet, who was much abused by this administration, went over to the White House for the purpose of calling an emergency meeting and warning as clearly as possible about the extremely dangerous situation with Osama bin Laden, and was brushed off! And I don’t know why—honestly—I mean, I understand how horrible this Congressman Foley situation with the instant messaging is, okay? I understand that. But, why didn’t these kinds of things produce a similar outrage? And you know, I’m even reluctant to talk about it in these terms because it’s so easy for people to hear this or read this as sort of cheap political game-playing. I understand how it could sound that way. [Practically screaming now] But dammit, whatever happened to the concept of accountability for catastrophic failure? This administration has been by far the most incompetent, inept, and with more moral cowardice, and obsequiousness to their wealthy contributors, and obliviousness to the public interest of any administration in modern history, and probably in the entire history of the country!

http://men.style.com/gq/features/full?id=content_5179&pageNum=1

I'd like to see Maliki tell Bush, "Dude, you want to see me? Come to Baghdad then. You know where to find me." That will show the world how much of a coward the chickenhawk is.

Bush Nuts

Are George W. Bush lovers certifiable?

Lohse, a social work master’s student at Southern Connecticut State University, says he has proven what many progressives have probably suspected for years: a direct link between mental illness and support for President Bush.

Lohse says his study is no joke. The thesis draws on a survey of 69 psychiatric outpatients in three Connecticut locations during the 2004 presidential election. Lohse’s study, backed by SCSU Psychology professor Jaak Rakfeldt and statistician Misty Ginacola, found a correlation between the severity of a person’s psychosis and their preferences for president: The more psychotic the voter, the more likely they were to vote for Bush. [...]

“Our study shows that psychotic patients prefer an authoritative leader,” Lohse says. “If your world is very mixed up, there’s something very comforting about someone telling you, ‘This is how it’s going to be.’”

The study was an advocacy project of sorts, designed to register mentally ill voters and encourage them to go to the polls, Lohse explains. The Bush trend was revealed later on. [...]

“Bush supporters had significantly less knowledge about current issues, government and politics than those who supported Kerry,” the study says.

New Haven Advocate

Torture, the Geneva Conventions and the School of the Americas
By Ann Wright, US Army Reserve Colonel
t r u t h o u t | Columnist

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/112906D.shtml

While Iraq Burns
Americans are shopping while Iraq burns
By Bob Herbert
The New York Times

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/112906G.shtml

Iraq is in the middle of a bloody civil war and neither President Bush or Dick Cheney have a plan to win the peace while billions and billions of dollars continue to be spent and more of our troops are getting killed so it's up to congress to bring our troops home. Contact your Senators and Representatives now and tell them enough is enough, bring our troops home now! Take action by clicking on the link below:

http://thomas.loc.gov

Bush and Cheney were "summoned" to the Middle East by their real masters, the Saudi Royal family. Both of these crooks know where their best business contracts money comes from.

If you caught last nights hardball you were treated to a preview of what the republicans have in store for Sen. Obama if he runs for president. During a discussion of 08 presidential contenders, Sen. Obama's name was first up and without missing a beat Ed Rogers rather than spewing the usual "he's a weak liberal" talking points, he just said his name. Rogers said nothing about his views on abortion, or "character", or his foreign policy experience, he just his name; Barack Hussein Obama. Accept Ed, being the red neck piece of shit that he is virtually spat out every letter taking special care to place emphasis on the "Hussein" part. It was an obvious appeal to the racists and xenophobes among us, but I wonder if American's will fall for it?

It brings it all home when ever I see Ed Rogers. Sure he's not as polished a southerner as James Baker or as fake as Ralph Reed, but what you see is what you get, and I actually appreciate it. After getting his start in Alabama politics like Karl Rove, he moved on to be another Lee Atwater disciple. So based on his pedigree in addition to being a racist I would say he is probably just a real nasty mo-fo who has found a home in the Republican Party for a very specific reason. That is what makes me cringe when I see southern blacks like Condileeza Rice walking around with a shit eating grin acting as if they don't see the same thing. She knows that conservative politics are inherently damaging to her race but yet she still carries water. Remember this classic Condi Quote:

From the AP-Most people who were alive at the time would tell you they had a lot of feelings during the civil rights era. But not Condeleeza Rice. The secretary of state said she was too young and too busy to feel much of an effect from the massive social changes during the 1960s. Rice said she was only 12 or 13 and that all she did "was play the piano and ice skate." Rice said because of that, she didn’t focus much on what she now calls "the counterculture."

If she is to be believed then while schools were blowing up and kids her age were getting attacked by police dogs and fire hosed, this fool was Ice Skating around Birmingham Alabama. I would love to know what counterculture she is referring too? The one that got her black ass the right to vote, or the one that needed the national guard just to go to school? This is why black conservatives who whine about their treatment by other blacks are not taken seriously within the black community.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/11/29/144811/93

Well, that was interesting, and expensive. The repair guy just left. My 3 and a half year old refrigerator broke. Of course the part wasn't under warranty, and Sears said they couldn't come out until December 7th at the earliest. Sheesh! First my 1 year old printer, and now this. Nobody's gettin' nuthin' this year. ;)

6 Iraqis die in Anbar clash
Infant, girl among victims of U.S. fire
A teenage girl and an infant were among six people killed yesterday during a gunbattle and U.S. tank barrage against suspected insurgents in western Iraq, U.S. military officials said.
Full story:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/iraq/bal-te.iraq29nov29001520,0,276022.story?coll=bal-iraq-headlines

Prisoner abuse scandal
Full coverage of the investigation into alleged abuse of Iraqi detainees by U.S. soldiers at Abu Ghraib prison.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/iraq/bal-prisonerabuse,0,382271.storygallery?coll=bal-iraq-storyutil

Al-Sadr bloc boycotts government over summit
Bush, PM meeting postponed; sectarian violence leaves 28 Iraqis dead.
Full Story:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15941394

many things get clearer and clearer to the american people as time goes on. on that we need to highlight is that the supreme court now has 4 members ( the scalia's for economy ) who have no interest in the interest of the american people. their interest is in their own limited, 18th century vision of america and the perpetuation of the same. if we can block all future nominations to the court by bush ( which we have the votes to do but do we have the courage ) and if we can take back the white house and pick up some more senate seats....then we can guarentee that these four nasty bastards sit impotently on the court for the next two or three decades, and grow old watching a progressive, pro human country grow in spite of their efforts to turn back the clock.

second sentence above should read ..."one that we need to highlight..."

The Five Fatal Mistakes of Bush's Mideast Policy
By SCOTT MACLEOD/CAIRO

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1563750,00.html?cnn=yes

Iraq: Their next massacre
by BRussells Tribunal

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=BRU20061128&articleId=4003

I was just reading a local Coeur d'Alene Idaho blog and it looks like the city isn't going to ask the Republican party to repay the security costs to taxpayers for VP "I shot the judge" Cheney campaign stop in Idaho, even though it was a private event and not open to the public.

well time to head home hopefully to beat the next round of snow.

Have a great night!

Posted by Kristen on November 29, 2006 at 06:24 PM

It would probably cost too much to clean the blood off the money anyway...

Goodnight Kristen!

so this trip to the middle east is doing little other than demonstrating how much bush and his team have fucked up our relations with the entire planet.

bush is like a high school senior who has gotten zero's on all the mid term exams. even with scores of 100% from here on out he will still fail. if he really was a high school student we could suggest he just leave school and get a job at his dad's grocery store or something. in the case of bush could he and his team just leave washington to take up rodeo riding or trap shooting or something and let the congress appoint some administrators to run the country for the next two years?

frist is gone. he is gonna sit back and live off the billion or so his family stole from the rest of us. seems like the schiavo pilgrims aren't doing so well....bush, santorum, frist, delay....we need to make sure all the rest of the cretins who played politics with that poor woman's suffering go down hard as well...

Posted by BlueinIdaho on November 29, 2006 at 06:28 PM

The Dark Knight pulled one of those stunts around here in 2004, (ya know, Wilmette, Winnetka, the whole Chicago North Shore "I pay YOU.. YOU do as I say" kinda glad handing), with a "Meet & Greet" and "Cocktail Weenies for access" suck-up fest. The GOP refused to pay for HIS security, saying that it's just the cost of "Being allowed to GLORY IN THE PRESENCE OF HIS DARKNESS".

SO...The Village went after the rich pricks who hosted the shindig in their Mansion. PRESTO! The RNC had to cough up the money. (The Millionaires have better Lawyers than Ken Muleman could ever "entice"). The LAST thing these sphincters wanted to do is PO a bunch of Futures Traders from the Merc, and once the neighbors (i.e., a few News Anchors) got wind of the crapola that Cheney was pulling by not paying for his own freight, and THEIR taxes might go up in order to cover the QUARTER MILLION BUCKS that were wasted on Cheney's gladhanding, the game was ON!!!

Any Citizen who pays taxes in that area should file a suit against Ken Muleman and the Pubes. The Pubic Party is weak and weakened. They don't need any more bad P.R.

The check will be in the mail within the week.

here is another interesting interface between science and religion that is beginning to bloom. what does one do? get the child vaccinated and insure that she will never have to deal with cervical cancer or not get the child vaccinated and leave open that possibility?from salon:

N.H. to Offer Cancer Vaccine to Girls
By NORMA LOVE Associated Press Writer

November 29,2006 | CONCORD, N.H. -- New Hampshire announced plans Wednesday to become the first state to offer the new cervical-cancer vaccine free to all girls.

Beginning in January, the vaccine against the human papilloma virus, or HPV, will be provided to girls ages 11 through 18 as part of a state program that offers various immunizations to children at no cost. The program is paid for by the federal government and insurance companies.

The Food and Drug Administration approved the vaccine in June for girls as young as 9. It prevents infection from some strains of HPV, a sexually transmitted virus that can cause cervical cancer and genital warts. Cervical cancer is the No. 2 cancer killer in women.

"We cannot overstate the huge breakthrough in this vaccine," New Hampshire Public Health Director Mary Ann Cooney said.

State officials hope about 17,000 girls -- a quarter of those eligible -- will come forward for the vaccinations next year.

Officials want to vaccinate girls before they become sexually active, because the vaccine does not protect those who have already been exposed to HPV.

"Some say giving the vaccination to 11-year-old girls is a license to promiscuity. I disagree," New Hampshire Health and Human Services Commissioner John Stephen said. He urged abstinence, noting that the vaccine will not protect girls from other sexually transmitted diseases, including HIV, or from getting pregnant.

A total of $4.8 million has been budgeted for the vaccine next year.

Good evening, everyone.

Posted by Renee_in_Ohio on November 29, 2006 at 03:42 PM

Renee,

I love your graphics. Everyone needs to see this peace wreath. The Prince of Peace would love your offering.

From the AP-Most people who were alive at the time would tell you they had a lot of feelings during the civil rights era. But not Condeleeza Rice. The secretary of state said she was too young and too busy to feel much of an effect from the massive social changes during the 1960s. Rice said she was only 12 or 13 and that all she did "was play the piano and ice skate." Rice said because of that, she didn’t focus much on what she now calls "the counterculture."

If she is to be believed then while schools were blowing up and kids her age were getting attacked by police dogs and fire hosed, this fool was Ice Skating around Birmingham Alabama. I would love to know what counterculture she is referring too? The one that got her black ass the right to vote, or the one that needed the national guard just to go to school? This is why black conservatives who whine about their treatment by other blacks are not taken seriously within the black community.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/11/29/144811/93

Posted by WD on November 29, 2006 at 04:55 PM

Good evening

Well WD you opened up my favorite subject: conservative blacks and Condi Rice.

So Miss Thing didn't really have time to focus on the fact that probably right down the street, around the corner and probably just outside her window that black folk were losing their livlihoods, homes and very lives so as to have the chance to vote, have barriers of segregation removed, opportunity for their children to attend properly funded schools, chances at career promoting employment and basically the chance to live as civilized human beings????

Oh I am so sorry that she focused on iceskating and whatever other nonblack activity that her parents could devise for her until they could ship her out of Alabama to Colorado to attend college at the age of 15.

Condi is full of sh*t trying to be all that, while portraying no knowledge or experiences of the Civil Rights era because she was TOO busy when in reality she is nobody with respect and dignity. But then again this also explains why she was shopping for shoe while black folk were dying in New Orleans after Katrina because she has absolutely no connection to her ethnic breathren.

And as for those other conservative blacks that walk around wondering what is MY problem as an African-American? Well my problem are YOU folk that seem to think that there is no problem that can't be solved by the conservative agenda of the REPs and Christian Right of which both groups have no liking or respect for you. Why? Because they sold you a pile of trash and you folk bought it hook line and sinker. You agreed and said, "Yes, yes, you're right. Self help is the answer and if one black individual can do it, why can't an entire race to it? Why there are blacks that have pulled themselves up by the bootstraps and "made something of themselves". Why can't all black folk do this??? Why? Why? Why?" Well that's another answer for another time, but bottom line - you fell into their trap of listening to their soapbox brainwash on personal issues such as abortion and same sex marriage while they were stroking you with that faith based crap.

Instead of using the familiar term of "liberal" let's just say that I'm progressive with the times, realistic enough to know not many more new doors will open, but astute enough to take advantage of the ones that are, continuously striving for social justice so as to make need/want extinct conditions, awe and respect for the Founding Fathers and the democracy they designed and the conscience to uphold it, belief in the capitalistic nature of economics, but not in the accumulation of wealth in a small niche and lastly the desire uphold and carry forth with my beliefs.

I guess to Condi this is the counterculture.

Posted by WD on November 29, 2006 at 04:19 PM

WD,

There are a few trolls on this board who might make good study subjects.

evening dems- has anyone been following the release of elizabeth de la vega's mock indictment of bush and co.? this started running yesterday- they released the indictment today and tomorrow begins the grand jury testimony- interesting stuff- she is a former federal prosecutor

http://www.tomdispatch.com/

Clinton lived in public housing his whole life

Very interesting piece of info: Daddy Bush hired Condi to TUTOR Jr. Bush in foreign policy during the 2000 campaign.

He wasn't a very good student because he refused to read the books that were part of the lesson plan and insisted that she just summarize and explain.

Instructor and student, hmm....... would explain a few things.

Does Clinton know who his daddy is? I heard they narrowed it down to 5 possibilities

Posted by WD on November 29, 2006 at 04:55 PM

Condi skated and Bush mountain bikes. I see a definite adversion to work here and no commitment to helping others. These people live in an ivy tower and could care less about the problems that confront those outside the walls of their castle.

Condi truly doesn't think of herself as black; and from what I've seen, she isn't. She has no pride in her heritage or cultural roots. She can't identify with the contemporary.

How sad. We are a nation of immigrants. Each part of our multi-cultural backgrounds makes us unique and enables us to face the future and master it.

And then there is Obama. He knows who he is and is proud of it. By making the point of going back to meet with his relatives in Africa, he acknowleded his race and in turn learned from where he gets his strength and embraced it. Even the racists have to grudgingly respect him for it.

3 are related

Like mother like son

Jesse and Al the Dem Black leaders

DNA off of an Arkansas bar floor has narrowed the possibilities

i suggest ignoring the troll.

Greggy:

Why not curse like normal?

I forgot, it's ok to name call Republicans but hands off dem's sorry I forgot the rules, the DNC will censor soon, no 1st amend. here

excerpt from a really good story over at salon:

Dazed and confused
With his "three-way" with King Abdullah and Nouri al-Maliki canceled, thanks to the timely leak of a nasty memo about the Iraqi prime minister, Bush looks like the blunderer in chief.

By Joan Walsh

Nov. 29, 2006 | The three-way is off! The trilateral is now a bilateral! And the vain hope that Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki could solve the Iraq crisis is spinning away just as fast as the slimmer hope that a summit in Jordan could make President Bush look like a leader.

In a week of surreal attempts at what administration officials apparently think is "diplomacy," Wednesday's press briefing with deputy press secretary Dan Bartlett is still a standout. The facts are clear: On the heels of an all but official leak of a memo by National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley, criticizing al-Maliki as either ignorant, dishonest or incompetent, suddenly plans for a Wednesday night meeting between President Bush, Jordan's King Abdullah and the Iraqi prime minister are off.

But pay no attention to the memo, Bartlett says; the need for a "three-way" was obviated by a "two-way" between Abdullah and al-Maliki earlier today...

--for more go to salon and get a day pass--

Greegy:

I would suggest you do so, hate to make you look foolish....again

I thought the senior Bushes call Clinton "their" son.

Greggy:

Are you old enough to work or are you paid to be on the blog?

Time for ice cream LOL

Domingo:

Bush Sr. was on the list of possibilities but he was ruled out by Bar room DNA

from time magazine via crooks and liars:

...the Bush Administration made five fatal mistakes that contributed to the crisis in which it now finds itself.

1. Bush ignored the Palestinians.

2. Bush invaded Iraq.

3. Bush misjudged Iran.

4. Bush hurt Israel.

5. Bush alienated Muslims.

I hope you all support censorship. Free speech is dead under Dem. rule

I will leave you all to your fantasies, Greggy make sure mommy washes your mouth out with soap. be a good boy.

>sorry I forgot the rules, the DNC will censor soon, no 1st amend. here

Try using the 1st amendment at a Bush rally and see how fast you get arrested.

One more:

The Middle East was calm and peaceful before Bush got in office.......not

Domingo:

The DNC censors, do you agree with that?

Simple yes or no

I guess that must be who Clinton's mommy and daddy is. I wonder what George Jr thinks about his parents having a son they like better than him? It must really hurt, wouldn't you say?

Barbara Bush Calls Bill Clinton 'Son'

Drudge Report | June 17, 2005

Former President Bill Clinton discussed his relationship with President Bush's father last night on CBS LATE SHOW.

Clinton: "I think we're good friends. I like him very much. I've always liked him. When he was vice president, I was still a governor. We worked together on a number of things. He hosted the governors, in 1983...at Kennebunkport."

When they made an announcement about raising funds for Tsunami relief in Houston former First Lady Barbara Bush "announced us. And she said she has started to call me son. I told the Republicans there, I said don't worry, every family has one, you know, the black sheep. I told them, this just shows you the lengths the Bushes would go to get another president in the family. I wish I could get them to adopt Hillary."

infowars

too bad colin powell had to sell his soul to the bushies. he may never get it back. but he could try:

Speaking with CNN reporter Hala Gorani in Dubai today, former Secretary of State Colin Powell said Iraq's violence meets the standard of a civil war and thinks President Bush needs to acknowledge that. According to Gorani's report, Powell said if he were heading the State Department right now, he would recommend that the Bush administration adopt that language "in order to come to terms with the reality on the ground."

i hope bush thought to bring his bike and helmet to jordan. looks like he will have alot of time to get a good ride in.

Domingo:

yes or no?

Greggythechild. The RNC censors, do you agree with that?

i guess bush could try thinking tonite, ya know practice how to do it just in case the skill seems useful in some situation or other:

if i only had a brain

NO, ASSWIPE. The definition of "censorship" is GOVERNMENT suppression of "free speech", NOT cleaning up "baiting" from a "Master Baiter" such as assholes like YOU, on a privately owned entity.

Pamurtha. What was your other name...Charmin? I KNOW you were here back when the DOW TIED Clinton's high.

As for the Clinton DNA, they ALSO did swab tests on your mothers AND your fathers tonsils. Funny thing, though, they found YOUR DNA on both samples.

gregg- i'm sure that he will speak to his "father" tonight to deliver him from the mess that he created- sadly, he still won't realize that this "father" he has been praying to is not listening because it would appear he has been praying wrong all this time based on the fact that his delusions only continue to grow as the mess gets deeper and deeper-

dan froomkin has an interesting collection of commentary on the spiraling mess that is this administration's foreign policy apparatus (if one can dignify it by calling it that)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/04/11/LI2005041100879.html

Domingo:

I don't agree, now can you answer

DPD:

Wow, you really showed me.

Blog on the DNC web site censors, don't be upset accept reality.

Clinton high? What did Clinton do?

This blog is for use by permission of the owners. They can refuse sevice to anyone. If you're snotty, yes, they can kick you out. Are you gonna let somebody get smart-mouth with you in your own house and not toss them out? Try pulling this crap in some place of public business (like a store) and see how fast you get arrested for it.

DPD: Parmurta correct....censored

Charmin is a no go.

Domingo:

Do you agree with censorship, yes or no. Why is that question so hard for you?

time for justa justa walking the dog... followed by some tube. see you all later. dpd--you ever get into the tv series "homicide, life on the street"?

The Smell of Sulphur: Chavez to Northern Minnesota's Rescue

One of the issues dearest to Paul Wellstone was the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program, or LIHEAP. LIHEAP provides relief to low-income families facing heating bills they can't afford. Studies show that roughly 20-25% of folks facing unaffordable heating bills will go without medicine to pay for them, while another 10-15% will go without food.

Of course, it costs a lot more to heat one's home under the best of circumstance on the frozen tundra of Northern Minnesota than most anywhere else in the contiguous United States, and it's not getting cheaper. Of course, this is lost on our "leaders" in Washington DC. But fortunately, not on Hugo Chavez.

Chippewa Tribe accepts free heating oil from Citgo

The tribe said it would be foolish to refuse the offer from the Venezuelan-owned firm despite political controversy.

Wayne Bohn, an attorney for the Leech Lake Band, said the politics of the deal were "hotly debated," but the tribe didn't see the point in rejecting the offer.

"To us, it would be a foolish move. We're not a wealthy tribe," Bohn said. "We could make a political statement, but making a political statement while your people freeze is not very wise."

Citgo will donate a lump sum to each of the six bands based on how many members are eligible for state heating assistance. Those band members will receive direct credits on their heating bills through Citgo's program, said Gary Frazer, the tribe's executive director.

Citgo has allotted 250 gallons of heating oil or the equivalent for each household. With Citgo figuring that each gallon is worth $2.25, the donation is $562.50 per household, about a 40 percent discount on most winter heating bills for homes on Chippewa reservations. The program runs from Nov. 15 until March 15.

Based on last year's state heating-assistance rolls, the tribe estimates that more than 2,700 households will be eligible for aid. Tribal day-care facilities for children and the elderly will also get a discount on heating fuel.

The Minnesota Chippewa Tribe -- an umbrella group that includes Bois Forte, Fond du Lac, Grand Portage, Leech Lake, Mille Lacs and White Earth bands -- plans to distribute money to the bands in the coming weeks.

http://www.startribune.com/462/story/833632.html

Greggythechild. Do you agree with harrasing people and acting out, yes or no. Why is that question so hard for you?

dpd--you ever get into the tv series "homicide, life on the street"?

Posted by gregg on November 29, 2006 at 08:38 PM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I always felt I had a talent for playing a corpse on any of those shows. Oh, well...practice, practice, practice.

If I played a dead guy on Homicide, I'd jump up from the slab and ask "Munch" HEY, WHAT HAPPENED?? YOU USED TO BE FUNNY!!!, and scare the be-jeebus out of him.

Funny how all these kooks keep howling about Clinton, while the Bushies love Clinton's ass. Didn't they get the memo?

Domingo:

You keep answering questions with questions, I told you my view of censorship. And I believe challenging people for misguided statements and lies is not harrassment. Now one more time, do you agree with censorship?

By the way, Clinton was an average president with no morals

Domingo:

Try putting down the Kool-aide

And Bush is an Amoral Resident with no average. (He's sub-par, for the tragically dense).

Greggythechild, I believe people like you are a danger to themselves and others, and need to be locked in a mental health care facility.

What's that number on Senate Repugs vs Senate Dems up for reelection in 2008 again?

O.K., I've been wondering about this for a while. On Sundays, I do my "Day of Atonement" by reading that right wing claptrap from Mark Steyn, and I can't help but notice that he looks like our (latest) NUMBER ONE ENEMY, al Sadr!!!

Strange but true, are they one and the same? I link, You decide.

Hey dems,

Is Frosty here fronting as "greggy"?

Here is a man who claims to not like liberals because they want to control our behavior, yet he supports the religious right who make no qualms about wanting to control your behavior, thinking, what you read, what you see, etc.....

gregg,

You should be honored that Frosty has chosen your name to emulate.

Posted by DPD on November 29, 2006 at 09:25 PM

I suppose they look similar, who is Mark Steyn?

Posted by Greggythechild on November 29, 2006 at 09:05 PM

Here ya go, asswipe. It was pointed out to you several times. THIS IS NOT A GOVERNMENT OWNED ENTITY!! Therefore, "censorship" isn't applicable.

It would be the same as if you walked into a bar, and started acting like the jerk that you always are, and you got tossed out on your ass/face (same thing). It isn't 'censorship", it's maintaining civility.

Just TRY to post on the Pubie site (GOP.COM), and get a post shown within a half hour, and ONLY if it is "approved" by the Kremlin of K Street.

Levitation

Check this weird science experiment out. It seems that scientist can make insects float with sound.

Alright, found it.

Of the 33 Senate seats up for reelection in 2008, just 12 are held by Democrats. We'll finally be able to tell Lieberman to get lost.

so dpd that means you have watched the shows or what? just cause chicago has a good football team doesn't give any reason to become obscure.

Posted by Domingo on November 29, 2006 at 09:39 PM

I hope so, 'cause he is a slime ball.

I hope we also can get rid of any DLC members out there.

ranger, as long as i win one of the "best...." something or others in the class yearbook i'm cool.

***tiptoeing in and sitting and down***

Majority of Americans Believe
Iraq Is in 'Civil War', Poll Finds

Is that a mandate?

domingo, the list of republicans up for re-election in 08 has some folks who seem real vulnerable to me. i think sununu for one up in new hampshire is way to right wing nutty for those pilgrims. and there are three or four others who seem quite weak...course that is down the road a bit. me, i am STILL BASKING IN THE GLOW OF OUR FANTASTIC WINS ON 11/7!

who is Mark Steyn?

Posted by ranger995 on November 29, 2006 at 09:31 PM

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YIKES~!!!!!!!!~You have NEVER read Mark Steyn?? He dropped out of his Toronto High School at 16 years old, and is now the darling of the rightest of the right (and they really think that ) Right Wingers!!

I read his half page treatise on how Rummy really made sense with that "Known Knowns..." wander through the initial phases of old Timers' Disease and thought "This guy is Nutcase GOLD, BAY-BEE!!" He has NOTHING but a Thesaurus and a contract, and perhaps a nice basement in which to toil that is hooked up to KKKarl's fax machine.

Read his crapfest every Sunday in the Sun-Times' "Controversy" section. It is also useful as a diet tool.

DNC BLOG YEARBOOK AWARD:

Presented to gregg on this 29th of November 2006

Let it be known that gregg is hereby awarded the title of

BEST ICE CREAM DECIDER

For diligently handling duties which include restricting ice cream to those bloggers who choose not to engage the trolls.

Thanks gregg (how's that)

Posted by DPD on November 29, 2006 at 09:47 PM

I boycott the Sun Times and Tribune, because they endorsed Bush in 2004.

Also, why would I waste my time reading that guy? I have much better things to do with my time.

I can't understand why Democrats watch Fox news and read right wing papers. I wish all liberals would boycott Fox, if Democrats refused to go on that station, they might change their tune. Oh well, I guess it is for the same reason that people engage the trolls here.

I am going to make a new years resolution to not engage the trolls at all.

I know gregg. There's five or six Republican Senators with an under 50% approval rating in their states right now.

Posted by LizzyBeth on November 29, 2006 at 09:44 PM

Are you the blogger formerly known as PeppermintLizzy?

If so, it is great to have you back!

I should have added, "Who are up for reelection in 2008".

I read everything I can, including the Wingnut blogs. (Know thy enemy, and all that crap).

I STILL don't know what number Fox "News" is on my cable system. I think it's somewhere in the 20's or 30's. CNN is mid 30's, and Keith is high 50's, but I ain't a gonna do no O'Lielley, no way, no how.

Gregg, We don't have any better football team than 12 other cities. (I'll let the other ones figure out just where they stand on that assessment).

One of my local PBS stations is having a "Beg-a-thon" starring the Dixie Chicks and James Taylor. GREAT PERFORMANCES

I'll say.

...The all-star line-up of performers participating in the gala concert included Jackson Browne, David Crosby, Sheryl Crow, Dr. John, Carole King, Alison Krauss, Taj Mahal, Bonnie Raitt, Bruce Springsteen, Sting, Keith Urban and more.

HIYA {{LIZZY}}!!

"We don't have any better football team than 12 other cities"

Being a transplant Chicagoan, I am not that optimistic about the Bears this year--I know blasphomy! I think that Rex's weaknesses have been exposed and it is going to be open season on him from now on.

Keith Olberman has made my list of TV that I can watch. The list is:

College Football (and sometimes the Bears)
Daily Show
Colbert Report
Keith Olberman

The rest is just ccccccrrrrrraaaaappppp!!!!

Are you the blogger formerly known as PeppermintLizzy?

Yes, I had to lose the peppermint - a long story from way back on the blog. Besides I true blue!

Thanks ranger!

Here is an article in Wapo about my new Congressman Elect.

You can see the album cover he had back in the 70's.

Posted by LizzyBeth on November 29, 2006 at 10:35 PM

Congratulations!

I wish I could get my wife to run for office instead of yelling at the TV all the time! We don't watch that much, but when a republican is on, she vociferously debates them--drives me nuts.

I thought she was going to beat Roskam up at a parade we walked in for Tammy Duckworth.

Once again, the LIES go unchallenged, unless it's a sweeps month, and the target is a hometown gal.

Right-Wing Attack On Pelosi Over ‘Union Hypocrisy’ Systematically Debunked

I especially like the Pubie default excuse that it's not HIS job to debunk HIS claims, it's Pelosi's job to make sure that he isn't a LIAR.

So, has ANYONE EVER heard that right winger DENY, and I mean catagorically DENY being a child molester?

Just the FACT that he hasn't addressed the question means that he must be avoiding it, right? I mean, HAS HE EVER STATED "YES" or "NO"????

Sorta makes "Some People" want to say "Hmmmmmmmm...."