Re: Posted by Paul on November 1, 2006 at 04:57 PM

You know, Paul, you and your wife were pretty foolish. And you still are.

You make decisions on the face only. There is nothing of value in your universe beyond the surface. You miss a lot in the world that way, but then life is so much easier...and you are so much easier fooled.

Maybe you should re-consider making snap judgments in the future; it only leads to disappointment.

Posted by SandyH on November 1, 2006 at 05:57 PM

My what a slam.

I used to respect your comments.

LET ME TELL THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, IT IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE TO IMPEACH TWO PRESIDENT’S, ONE RIGHT AFTER THE OTHER

The Washington Post reports Vice President Cheney saying that election results (if the Democrats win the majority) will not influence U.S. policies in Iraq, I think this will hurt the Republican Party further. This will help swing voters and voters with the guts to vote the current Republican Party out of office in this one election to make up their minds.

How can the GOP both recently admit that things aren’t going well in Iraq and also aggressively state that policies in Iraq will not change no matter what (or which party) says in the Congressional majority?

It is a reminder that public opinion is totally ignored by the Bush/Cheney administration. Further pushing the Democrats ahead in the race for trying to represent public opinion when the Republican Representatives have failed to fight for public opinion in the Iraq war.

It is also a reminder that Vice President Cheney may be President Bush’s life insurance, impeachment insurance and legal insurance for illegal acts, but we can also impeach two president’s, one right after the other if we win the election majority. GO FOR IT DEMOCRATIC PARTY - GO!

GET THOSE IRAQ WAR DICTATOR’S, WHO SAY THEY’RE FIGHTING FOR DEMOCRACY WHILE REPRESENTING THE UNITED STATES OUT OF THERE!

BECAUSE ONE THING WORSE THAN REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATION IS NO REPRESENTATION!

Political-Rush-Limbaugh, who obviously gets his kicks out of a fake high, also must gets his fake kicks out of targeting someone personally politically, wouldn’t we say?

I DON’T GIVE A DARN WHAT LIMBO’S SENSATIONALIZED PROPAGANDA (sensationalized as much as the terrorists propaganda) SAYS ABOUT ME OR ANY BODY ELSE FOR THAT MATTER.

BUT I DO CARE ABOUT PEOPLES RIGHT IN THE CONSTITUTION WITH THE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION HAVING THE RIGHT NOT TO BE PUBLICLY PERSECUTED. It’s interesting that Limbo’ of the lowest doesn’t have anymore respect than the President has with the Citizens, that is the Democratic Citizens rights, isn’t it?

SOMEBODY GET A JOURNALIST TO ASK OUR PRESIDENT IF HE SUPPORTS MICHAEL J. FOXES RIGHT TO EXPRESS HIMSELF POLITICALLY WITHOUT PUBLIC JUDGMENT.

You know my personal belief, which is normally not the governments business, is that the world’s prophets might have defined the Day of Judgment as the light of judgmental thinking. Too bad president Bush’s led to be, politically aggressive with no respect for your opinion crap, has left many in the dark, isn’t it?

We have a president who wants to publicly assert Christian attitudes at this time to make Osama bin Flauntin’ his holy war think we really are fighting a holy war? Where is the U.S. match for intelligence?

That was suppost to be 'the light on judgmental thinking' not the light of judmental thinking. Perhaps nothing to talk about but hostile political Limbo' would like to take a shot at me politically for my mistake?

Come do it at my door, if you got the guts, you...

Actually impeaching either Bush or Cheney, in all probability will so badly implicate the other that it will be a two-for-one investigation.
The Democrats need to go for the throat, and impeach.
The corruption in the Republican party is so extensive and intertwined it will likely also take down several political appointees and members of both the House and Senate as well.
It is imperative that it happens. The Republicans are so caught up in their own corruption, they refuse to clean up Washington.
If the Democrats don't move to impeach and clean up this mess in Washington, then the general public will undoubtedly be tar them with the same brush, and destroy BOTH parties.
The majority of the people are fed up, and are demanding remediation.
IMPEACH BUSH AND CHENEY!!!

Democratic Grass Roots Movement Started in the 17th Century

The RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN EXTREMISTS pass down the Culture of the Federalists and the Federalist Papers, as if the Federalist Papers were writ in stone by way of lightening directed by the HAND of GOD. However, the Federalist Papers and the Federalists were representative of commercial interests and a strong "FEDERAL" government, rather than DEMOCRACY.

The Anti-Federalists were representative of DEMOCRACY, representative of the "grass roots", and representative of a healthy distrust of concentrated Federal power for commercial interests that could oppress and tyrannize the majority population in the name of minority commercial interests.

Why should YOU vote DEMOCRATIC? If you want to know why you should VOTE DEMOCRATIC in the upcoming election, read the Anti-Federalist Papers, and become aware that the war between "grass roots democracy" and "Commercial Federalism" for control of the United States Government for the benefit of commercial interests OVER democratic interests has been going on since the 17th Century.

In the United States we have a Two-Party Voting System, one party to represent democratic interests and one party to represent commercial interests.

DO NOT VOTE for the one party that represents commercial interests because the one party that is designated to represent democratic interests is infested with unworthy people who are supporting commercial interests, instead VOTE FOR DEMOCRATIC INTERESTS.

VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, the one party designated to represent democracy, and when the Democratic Party is once more the MAJORITY PARTY; reform the Democratic Party, get rid of all of the people in the Democratic Party leadership that are representing commercial interests OVER democratic interests and make the Democratic Party be the party of the people, the Party of Democracy.

VOTE A STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC PARTY TICKET FOR DEMOCRACY. When "Grass Roots Democrats" have MAJORITY CONTROL for democratic interests OVER the commercial interests of the REPUBLICAN PARTY, clean house in the Democratic Party and support "Democracy For America" rather than "Commercial Interests For America" as represented by Conservative REPUBLICAN RIGHT-WING EXTREMISTS.

The Bible says there is nothing NEW under the sun. The democratic interests and commercial interests as represented by the Anti-Federalists and the Federalists is NOT NEW under the sun. WE THE PEOPLE are NEW under the sun and we must become aware of what is OLD under the sun if we are to be effective in preserving life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and freedom and justice for all during our time in the sun.

I am a democrat but the comment above posted by ThomasG just makes me want to write this.
The so-called culture of the federalists and the federalists papers isn't really a bad thing. I don't know if Mr.ThomasG has ever read any of the papers or if he's familiar with the works of Madison or Hamilton. But i tell you this i have read most of the federalist papers and trust me there is a lot of them,and their purpose was to organize the country and to establish a good and most important, working form of government that whould help every single group of people or any opinion to be heard thru the people they elected. Such form of government where the people can elect their representatives(i believe that's exactly what we are doing now)is called "REPUBLIC". For your information Mr.ThomasG our constitution is all about federalism and dividing power and autority into three branches and it was passed by all of the 13 colonies. And than there was Abraham Lincoln who in fact was a total federalist and who died as a martyr.
We the people of the United States did choose a republic not a pure democracy(Do i need to explain what pure democracy is?).So be thou not deceived.

I'm voting democratic because i absolutly support the stem cell research. I believe it's very important to work on that so that we can help our fellow americans who are suffering from that disease. Another reason why i am voting democratic is because i'm sick and tired of the so-called party who stands for family values but who in real life don't give a darn about it,Foley for example. And also i am kind of tired of their eternal and neverending lies.
So i'm voting democratic and all of my friends are. That's what we all need now.That's what the nation needs.

My sister is diabetic and a close friend has MS. Stem cell research IS legal so I'm not sure why this stuff is front page news. I just don't think the taxpayers need to be acting as venture capitalists for the biotech firms. Why can't they spend their own money for research that IS LEGAL, especially when they will be the ones PROFITING.

i am a registerd as a republican. i was once a democrat.i have not voted in at least 15 years. the big reason is truth. I only vote if I can get to the bottom line of the truth. no spin, or the same old answers to the problem.I do not believe in class warfare,everyone should have the same oppertunity. no law should single one group over another.I do not believe goverment should not be the almighty answer to all things. I left the democrat party becuase it seemed all they cared about was the middle class at the expence of the poor.and that they were willing to cut off the nose of their own faces,just to take care of thier so called middle class.if someone who is sincier,and walk me though the basic beliefs of the democratic beleif once and for all,I may consider changing my vote

*******VOTE FOR SOLIDARITY*******

I implore all of the Democratic Party constituency to maintain political solidarity and vote a straight Democratic Party Ticket, work out our differences within our own Democratic Party constituency in the Primary Elections, and not allow our Democratic Party constituency to be subject to divisive manipulation by the 10% minority population of the Elite Capitalist Class, the Commercial Class, that maintains power ONLY by divisive manipulation of the combined 90% majority population of the United States that support democratic interests as opposed to commercial interests.

The General Election is for constituent solidarity, constituent oriented politics, voting a straight Democratic Party Ticket in support of the combined 90% constituency of the 70% majority population of the Working and Poor Class and Culture and the 20% minority population of the Professional Class, the "class in the middle" that wants to be called the Middle Class, that is in truth only in the middle as a 20% minority class between a 10% minority population of the Elite Capitalist Class, the Commercial Class, and a 70% majority population, the Working and Poor Class and Culture.

WE THE PEOPLE, the majority population of the United States, must bear in mind that the Primary Elections are for issues, issue oriented politics, and solidarity with issue oriented concerns of moral values and other political concerns within the overall Democratic Party constituency, that is concerned with electing issue oriented leaders, that will represent differing constituencies within the Democratic Party in the General Election.

If the Democratic Party constituency, the 70% majority population of the Working and Poor Class and Culture and the 20% minority of the Professional Class and Culture, the so called "Middle Class" can maintain political solidarity in the General Election November 7, 2006, we are on our way to strong majority leadership of the United States.

VOTE FOR A STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC PARTY TICKET

Vote for Common Wealth, not for Private Wealth. Common Wealth is in support of WE THE PEOPLE. Private Wealth is in support of the Elite Minority and their commercial interests. Voting for the Common Wealth is voting for the Democratic Party and, as a part of the Democratic Party, reforming the Democratic Party through the Primary Election process.

As a part of the Working and Poor Class and Culture and the so called "middle class", the class between the 10% Elite Capitalist Class and the 70% majority population of the Working and Poor Class and Culture, WE THE PEOPLE have an interest in our own Common Wealth and an interest that our Common Wealth is not privatized, commoditized, capitalized and used in an economy that is for the benefit of Private Wealth against the benefit of the Common Wealth.

I ask that for one bright shining moment on November 7, 2006, that YOU wake up, become aware and VOTE a STRAIGHT Democratic Party ticket in support of the Common Wealth of WE THE PEOPLE against Private Wealth and commercial interests of the CONSERVATIVE RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN infestation of the government of the United States.

Vote a STRAIGHT Democratic Party ticket in support of the Common Wealth of the United States and against Private Wealth of the CONSERVATIVE RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN EXTREMISTS that have infested the government of the United States.

*****IMPORTANCE OF SOLIDARITY*****

I want so much to see solidarity within the Democratic Party in the upcoming General Election and for differences within the Democratic Party constituency to be dealt with in the Primary Election process, that it is difficult for me to adequately express how important it is that WE THE PEOPLE maintain solidarity, without being subject to divisiveness within the Democratic Party in the General Election.

The Holy Bible says, "To everything there is a season, a time for every purpose under heaven:" Ecclesiastes 3:1

In the Democratic Party constituency a combined 90% majority population of the United States, the time for divisive issues is during the PRIMARY ELECTION process and the time for SOLIDARITY is during the GENERAL ELECTION process.

With all humility that I can muster, I ask that ALL who are a part of the Political LEFT, Working and Poor, as well as Professional Class constituents of the Democratic Party, not give way to divisiveness during the upcoming November 7, 2006, General Election and VOTE a straight Democratic Party Ticket for Democratic Party SOLIDARITY.

ALL divisive issues can and will be dealt with in the Primary Election process within the constituency of the Democratic Party; if as a Democratic Party we can maintain SOLIDARITY within our own constituency, we will isolate the 10% minority of the Elite Capitalist Class, the Commercial Class, and democracy with freedom, justice, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness will flourish for all of the LEFT, the Democratic Party constituency.

If not, the divisive efforts of the 10% minority of the Elite Capitalist Class, the Commercial Class, will fractionalize the Democratic Party constituency and, to the extent of that fractionalizing, the Elite Capitalist Class, the Commercial Class, will use our own constituent base to support the interests of the Commercial Class against the interests of democracy.

superdawg Nov. 4th 03:43 PM:

I have heard all of the commercial interest tripe that is always trotted out and used as a Dog and Pony Show in support of the Federalist Papers, the same as George W. Bush trots out Condoleeza Rice; and, I do not ever hear anyone talking about the concerns of the Anti-Federalists.

If you want to do something constructive, rather than blow your little fife for the Federalist Papers, address the concerns of the Anti-Federalists. The concerns of the Anti-Federalists were legitimate concerns about issues that WE THE PEOPLE are suffering at the present time under the yoke of the CONSERVATIVE RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN EXTREMISTS of George W. Bush and the Bush Administration.

I am considering posting some of the Anti-Federalist Papers so that people can make up their own minds, rather than listen to so called superdawg's espousing one-sided opinions; and so that you can be edified out of your delusive one-sided support of the Federalist Papers.

phil2AM:

You may not believe in Class Warfare, but whether you believe in Class Warfare or not, the Political Right EXTREME does, has been and is still engaged in Class Warfare against ALL WORKING PEOPLE, using many Right-Wing political hawks, similar to Joe Lieberman, to infiltrate the Political Left and even seduced the Political LEFT into thinking that the Political LEFT is a part of the Political RIGHT.

There is NO WAY the Political LEFT can ever be the Political RIGHT any more than your left hand can be your right hand. Never the less, most of Congress and the people running the DNC Blog at that time argued that there was no Political LEFT in Congress, that the DNC didn't represent the Political LEFT, that there was no RED or BLUE, only PURPLE, because colors didn't matter. It had been determined that one-party could rule both parties by lying, spinning and fooling WE THE PEOPLE by telling the people what the people wanted to hear, but doing whatever they wanted to do, because it didn't matter what the people wanted, the people would be easy to deceive.

Then, along came Governor Dean using the internet for change, and change started happening.

Prior to Governor Dean, the Political RIGHT had convinced the Political LEFT in Congress that there was no Political LEFT, that WE THE PEOPLE and COMMERCIAL INTERESTS were ONE, which made it easy for the RIGHT'S Class War against the WORKING and the POOR to continue unabated. Since the Right's plan to destroy the Political LEFT had been going so well for so many years, with the RIGHT using the LEFT against itself, and the LEFT never seeming to mind; after all, why bother with the working and poor people, the wealthy extremists have more money and are glad to help.

So, the DLC was formed to lead the Political LEFT away from WE THE PEOPLE and CORPORATIONS got political control of Congress against the will of the people and a NEW CLASS, the Professional Class, was formed out of the Upper 29% of the population to control the rest of the population, the masses, the 70% Working and Poor Class.

The unelected DLC via the Professional Class political
leaders took charge of WE THE PEOPLES' INTERESTS
in Congress and, since the DLC is not responsible to protect WE THE PEOPLES' INTERESTS, but are ONLY responsible to protect corporations and commercial interests, working people and poor people no longer had any actual political representation in Congress.

The NEW CLASS politician would no longer need to raise money from WE THE PEOPLE, who the Political LEFT is suppose to serve, it was now easier to raise money from corporations and the wealthy, and not ever have to worry about their own working and poor constituents of the Political LEFT because their NEW CLASS did not include working people and definitely didn't include poor people.

Governor Dean and the Democratic Grass Roots Movement includes all the people, not just the Professionals and the Elite.

Vote a Straight Democratic Ballot and do not check the candidates individually hoping to insure your vote, because you will have voted twice and the computer will kick out your vote.

When I visit a cemetery, near the grave I visit is a hill, where only babies are buried. The graves are only a few feet apart there. Stem-cell research could medically benefit those babies who die from diseases.

Stem-cell medical research is not the same as stem-cell cloning as the Republican led fear tactics, meant to scare you into a vote, would like you to half-believe. The Republican administration doesn’t ‘know’ that stem-cell medical research would turn into stem-cell cloning anymore than the President ‘knows’ that if the U.S. was not in Iraq the U.S. would have been attacked by terrorism in the last five years since nine-eleven.

It is unfortunate that this self-acclaimed prophet president is leading a conservative right to follow his personal agenda that makes most people want to turn a way from religion, itself. People do not like religion forced on them, especially by their government. Further, especially by a politician whose politics sort of comes across as a molesting priest’s politics, meant to seduce you with your respect for authority.

Taking a cell out of a diseased person, treating that cell with medical research and putting the cell back in that same person, or another willing person who has the same disease, is supporting the healing process in the human race. I thought that the religious worshipped the healing process instead of arguing against it?

Good thing we don’t have to worry about the Democratic Party doing similar things, like promising the Amish that Democratic Officials will make it a law that all women wear dresses in public for their votes, isn’t it?

What do the Doctors, Nurses and people working in the medical field have to say about stem-cell research?

Any of you out there who would like to post your comments?

Do I understand stem-cell research correctly? Taking a cell out of a diseased person, treating that cell with medical research in attempts to cure that person and putting the cell back in that same person? Or putting that treated cell into another willing person who has the same disease?

I mean, don't anybody try to clone Bush's brains now, but stem-cell research is not done on an embryo!

There are three sources of stem cells; adult, umbilical, and embryonic. Research is presently being done using the first two types of cells. The big drug companies want to use the stem cells from embryos also. This would involve killing the embryos, which would come from "leftovers" from in vitrio fertilizations, because they always make extra embryos.
How you feel about this would depend on whether you consider an embryo a human being or not.
There have all ready some advances made from the other stem cells, which are proving that they can be used for research, and for cures.
I don't know why there's such a big rush on something this important.

I've been thinking about why there's this big push to get this embryonic stem cell issue put into the Missouri State constitution.
Call me cynical, BUT:
The Republicans win by pointing out how the Democrats are all for killing "defenseless little babies", turning the voters, who value human life, even in it's embryonic form, away from supporting Democrats candidates, even (or especially) as far out as 2008.
The drug companies then get to keep the Republican
legislative support without the Republicans getting in to trouble with their voters because of an "anti-life" program.
Plus the drug companies get a safe haven which allows them to do whatever they want in this arena.
The drug companies can then clean up, and can charge beau coup bucks, which means that most of the working and middle class people needing this medication can't afford it.
Another coup for the oiligarchy.

*******Christian Conservatives*******

Are Christian Conservatives weak-minded and easily led???

If not weak-minded and easily led, what is the explanation for why Christian Conservatives vote against their best interest on the basis of moral beliefs????

Any normal average person is smart enough to know that even CHICKENS know that the constituents of CHICKENS are other CHICKENS. When Christian Conservatives invite the FOX into the CHICKEN HOUSE, what can be the explanation for their behavior?

Christian Conservatives are smarter and more aware than CHICKENS, and one would think that Christian Conservatives would express their political concerns over moral values in the Democratic Party PRIMARY ELECTION PROCESS, and develop a constituency within the Democratic Party, so that Christian Conservatives, as a part of the Working and Poor Class and Culture, have broad grass roots support for all of their political concerns, as a part of the Working and Poor Class and Culture; rather than narrow political support from a party that does NOT represent Christian Conservatives broadly as a part of the Working and Poor Class and Culture; but represents Christian Conservatives narrowly on a few issues as non-constituents of the Republican Party, that in fact represent the Elite Capitalist Class and Culture.

Will Christian Conservatives continue to vote against their own best interests for the REPUBLICAN PARTY in support of a few polarized political issues? Or, will Christian Conservatives start to vote for the DEMOCRATIC PARTY that represents them as a part of the Working and Poor Class and Culture, and participate in the Democratic Party PRIMARY ELECTION PROCESS, so that all of their political issues as a part of the Working and Poor Class and Culture will be represented?

I think Christian Conservatives are like the sheep in the Holy Bible, and will most probably continue to be led against their own best interest by the advocates of the "Devil", the CONSERVATIVE RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN EXTREMISTS who lead them from the pulpit of their churches to vote as non-constituents of a Political Party that does not represent them, the REPUBLICAN PARTY; to, as weak-minded sheep, get political support for polarized political concerns; receive nothing or very little support for their concerns, and give voting strength to the CONSERVATIVE RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN EXTREMISTS.

I could be wrong, and I hope that I am, but I do not think that these Christian Conservative folks are smart enough or ever will be able to become aware of the PRIMARY ELECTION PROCESS, and use it within the Democratic Party to achieve political representation as a part of the Working and Poor Class and Culture: and STOP giving away the voting strength of their own political class and culture, the Working and Poor Class and Culture, for benefit equivalent to what the heir to the throne of Israel did when he gave away his right to be king for a portion of food.

The Christian Conservatives remind me of the selective process for choosing good racing greyhounds. In order to select a good racing greyhound, one will need to tie only the skin of a rabbit to a block of wood on a projected arm for turning in a circle, and turn the rabbit skin at a speed just ahead of the running greyhounds where they will never be able to catch the rabbit skin. All the greyhounds that are aware the other greyhounds aren't chasing a real rabbit drop back, sit down and watch the others running their heart out, confused as to why all the excitement of the chase, since there is NO RABBIT to catch. Greyhounds that know the truth become hunting dogs.

The Christian Conservatives remind me of the greyhounds running on the track that are trying hard for their master, but are forever running circles for the rest of their lives, fooled by the rabbit skin into believing they are following the rabbit.

Christians MUST become aware that there is NO RABBIT to follow in the Christian Conservative Political Movement, and not be following the skin on the block of wood because it appears to be right. Christians are required to think and do what Jesus taught by trying every spirit, those who are good will do good, and those who are evil will do evil. It is necessary that Christian Conservatives STOP chasing the skin on the block of wood and start following the real rabbit.

As a young child, my father was very involved in the political arena, helping friends who ran for offices, names withheld. I only saw all of this as a good time to eat and drink. When I became of voting age, I registered to vote and have only missed once, due to illness. I am very tired of all the mudslinging that comes with the territory. I hope that before I leave this world, there can be just one campaign where everyone could agree on everything, but then I guess we would have to find a new name for POLITICS. I can remember my first time voting, when my Dad handed me a piece of paper and told me who I should vote for. Back then, I didn't know any better. I can't wait until this election is over, but then I guess it's time to get geared up for 2008. May the best man or WOMAN win.

As a young child, my father was very involved in the political arena, helping friends who ran for offices, names withheld. I only saw all of this as a good time to eat and drink. When I became of voting age, I registered to vote and have only missed once, due to illness. I am very tired of all the mudslinging that comes with the territory. I hope that before I leave this world, there can be just one campaign where everyone could agree on everything, but then I guess we would have to find a new name for POLITICS. I can remember my first time voting, when my Dad handed me a piece of paper and told me who I should vote for. Back then, I didn't know any better. I can't wait until this election is over, but then I guess it's time to get geared up for 2008. May the best man or WOMAN win.

As a young child, my father was very involved in the political arena, helping friends who ran for offices, names withheld. I only saw all of this as a good time to eat and drink. When I became of voting age, I registered to vote and have only missed once, due to illness. I am very tired of all the mudslinging that comes with the territory. I hope that before I leave this world, there can be just one campaign where everyone could agree on everything, but then I guess we would have to find a new name for POLITICS. I can remember my first time voting, when my Dad handed me a piece of paper and told me who I should vote for. Back then, I didn't know any better. I can't wait until this election is over, but then I guess it's time to get geared up for 2008. May the best man or WOMAN win.

I have heard that there will be careful attention payed to the polls in OHIO, I know there were significant problems with voting availability in 04.I dont trust the machines or the republicans, I remember the dismay that the exit polls were so wrong in 04 . I dont think the exit polls were incorrect I think the election ws stolen for a second straight time. It is incredibly important that we maintain faith in the credibility of our system. Voting percentages are already amazingly low but if people actually believe that the polls are rigged , our entire system could be at risk. I live in INDIANA but worked the phones in an effort to get democrats out to vote in OHIO . I had friends in Columbus who waited over 3 hours to vote , they were in a heavily democratic area. I know others who live in more suburban and much stronger republical precints that got in and out of the polls in 10 minutes or less. I firmly believe that this was no accident, in close elections it only takes a few minor tweeks to the system to change everything, we saw it in FLORIDA in 00 and OHIO in 04. with the addition of Diebold voting machines that have been shown to be very vulnarable to manipulation the entire election can be hijacked and we would never know or be able to prove that anything ever happened. Im not saying that election cheating is new or exclusively republican but with Katherine Harris in 00 and the fiasco in OHIO in 04 it seems the republicans have decided that it works and that the voters really dont seem to care. Lets hope that all my fears are simply paranoia and that the system really does work but how will we evr really know ?

I have heard that there will be careful attention payed to the polls in OHIO, I know there were significant problems with voting availability in 04.I dont trust the machines or the republicans, I remember the dismay that the exit polls were so wrong in 04 . I dont think the exit polls were incorrect I think the election ws stolen for a second straight time. It is incredibly important that we maintain faith in the credibility of our system. Voting percentages are already amazingly low but if people actually believe that the polls are rigged , our entire system could be at risk. I live in INDIANA but worked the phones in an effort to get democrats out to vote in OHIO . I had friends in Columbus who waited over 3 hours to vote , they were in a heavily democratic area. I know others who live in more suburban and much stronger republical precints that got in and out of the polls in 10 minutes or less. I firmly believe that this was no accident, in close elections it only takes a few minor tweeks to the system to change everything, we saw it in FLORIDA in 00 and OHIO in 04. with the addition of Diebold voting machines that have been shown to be very vulnarable to manipulation the entire election can be hijacked and we would never know or be able to prove that anything ever happened. Im not saying that election cheating is new or exclusively republican but with Katherine Harris in 00 and the fiasco in OHIO in 04 it seems the republicans have decided that it works and that the voters really dont seem to care. Lets hope that all my fears are simply paranoia and that the system really does work but how will we evr really know ?

I agree with ThomasG and MarthaA on "Christian conservative" matter. Jesus never told anyone to hate someone but he whould tell to "love thy neighbor as thyself". But that's what a lot of people like John Ashcroft don't do and don't say. But instead they say something like "Kill the sodomite" or "burn in hell" kinda stuff. Ashcroft is a mentaly and morally unstable kind of guy.

In fact if look at our history and read what the Founding Fathers said about that, you will find that many of them were skeptical of organized religion and felt there was no place in our secular government for any specific religion. Here's a couple of really good quotes that i like a lot:

"I beg you be persuaded that no one whould be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the hororrs os spiritual tyrrany and every species of religious persecution". George Whashington, May, 1789.

"The clergy converted the simple teachings of Jesus into an engine for enslaving mankind...to filch wealth and power to themselves.They,in fact,constitute the real Anti-Christ". Thomas Jefferson.

DEMOCRACY FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY as a result of the November 7, 2006 Election

WE THE PEOPLE, the "Grass Roots" of the Democratic Party have driven many of the NEO "CONS" out of government. However, WE THE PEOPLE, the Grass Roots" of the Democratic Party have not really won anything until WE THE PEOPLE drive the duopolistic conspiratorial Professional Class Cooperators out of the Democratic Party; in this respect the Democratic Party is still infested and WE THE PEOPLE must not be distracted by WINNING one battle and FORGET this reality, if WE THE PEOPLE want the "Grass Roots" Movement of, for and by the Working and Poor Class and Culture to continue, gain strength and grow as an enduring Political Movement.

*******POLITICAL STRUGGLE*******

To ACCEPT Winning and Losing, or CONTINUE a Political Struggle as a MOVEMENT; THAT IS THE QUESTION "?".

The answer is that WE THE PEOPLE must CONTINUE a Political STRUGGLE for representation and dominance of the Working and Poor Class and Culture, the "Grass Roots", WE THE PEOPLE, in both the leadership of the Democratic Party and the Government of the United States.

WE THE PEOPLE have all been trained like dogs and monkeys to accept WINNING and LOSING gracefully as in football, baseball and basketball; WE THE PEOPLE have been trained to the "Winner and Loser Frame". The "Winner and Loser Frame" is IRRELEVANT to POLITICS. Politics is about MOVEMENTS of Classes and Cultures within a body politic. Movements of Classes and Cultures continually contend for dominance, and the Class and Culture that does NOT continue to struggle for dominance is diminished gradually and replaced by a stronger Class and Culture that continues in the "never ending struggle" for Class and Culture dominance within the body politic.

WE THE PEOPLE the "Grass Roots" of the Democratic Party MUST CONTINUE our struggle for representation and dominance of the Working and Poor Class and Culture within both the Democratic Party and the Government of the United States.

WE THE PEOPLE must not complacently accept the "Winner and Loser Frame" that is being pushed by the RIGHT-WING MEDIA, and abandon the "Grass Roots" Political MOVEMENT that represents WE THE PEOPLE, the "Grass Roots" in both the Democratic Party and the Government of the United States, inclusive of BOTH Houses of Congress.

***********GRASS ROOTS VICTORY************

I hear in the Right-Wing Media that the November 7, 2006, GENERAL ELECTION was a "middle class victory".

The Middle Class is a 20% minority Professional Class in the middle between a 10% Elite Capitalist Class minority and a 70% Working and Poor Class majority.

The 20% Professional Class minority does not have voting strength to claim a victory for their minority class in the middle, the so called Middle Class.

The VICTORY that the Democratic Party had was a VICTORY for the "Grass Roots" of the Democratic Party, the 70% Working and Poor Class majority with the Voting Strength to throw out the Democratic Leadership Council, DLC, DLC Republican and REPUBLICAN PARTY duopoly that has infested the Democratic Party and the Government of the United States.

This Grass Roots "DEMOCRACY FOR AMERICA" Victory is the START of the Campaign For President in the 2008 GENERAL ELECTION, at which time the voting strength of the GRASS ROOTS will be even more strong and strident in WE THE PEOPLE'S desire and will to have "Democracy For America".

Who is Behind the November 7, 2006, Democratic Party VICTORY as Most Valuable Player?

The answer overwhelmingly is Governor Howard Dean, the Democracy For America Movement and the Democratic National Committee, DNC, under the leadership of Governor Howard Dean, with a little help from Rom Immanuel.

Rom Immanuel is being pushed by the Right-Wing MEDIA as the Most Valuable Player, MVP; but without Governor Howard Dean, the Democracy For America Movement, founded by Governor Howard Dean, representative of the Democratic Party Grass Roots Movement and Governor Howard Dean's leadership of the DNC, together with Governor Howard Dean's 50 STATE STRATEGY, Rom Immanuel's contribution would not have amounted to much.

Governor Howard Dean is the MVP of the Democratic Party. The Right-Wing Media is trying to frame Governor Dean out of the picture, which is not acceptable behavior. The people of the GRASS ROOTS MOVEMENT need to make it perfectly clear to ALL who are trying now to diminish Governor Dean's role, and would in the future try to diminish Governor Howard Dean's LEADERSHIP ROLE; that it is Governor Howard Dean who is the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER in the Democratic Party and the November 7, 2006 GENERAL ELECTION.

*******IN SEARCH OF A BACKBONE*******

Remember when the Democratic Leadership Council, DLC, was crawling around like worms in the dirt concerned only about finding candidates that could suck up to the RIGHT sufficiently to WIN an election without being made subject to the Neo "Con" noise machine.

Remember when the DLC as Republican Party SHILLS did not have a backbone and condemned Governor Howard Dean because Governor Howard Dean, M.D. does have a backbone.

Remember when the GRASS ROOTS of the Democratic Party and Governor Howard Dean as leader of the GRASS ROOTS MOVEMENT of the Democratic Party STOOD UP STRAIGHT and gave a Mighty GROWL that was representative of the ENERGY and SPIRIT of the GRASS ROOTS MOVEMENT.

And, remember how the DLC Leadership DID NOT STAND UP and DEFEND Governor Dean for having a BACKBONE, SPIRIT and ENERGY to STAnd UP and put the Democratic Party on a course of spirit, backbone and energy that led to the November 7, 2006 ELECTORAL VICTORY.

Now, everyone that DID NOT have a BACKBONE is ready to STAND UP and take credit for what Governor Howard Dean and the GRASS ROOTS MOVEMENT of Democracy For America had the BACKBONE to do, when the DLC leadership of the Democratic Party was like "little tiny Eichmans"; a "go along to get along gang" of complicit toadies for the REPUBLICAN PARTY.

ALL of YOU DLC REPUBLICAN toadies need to give credit publicly where credit is due, to Governor Howard Dean and the "GRASS ROOTS Democracy For America Movement". Get a backbone, lose your compliant need to cooperate and apologize; and represent the best interest of the Working and Poor Class and Culture, the GRASS ROOTS MOVEMENT of Governor Howard Dean's Democracy For America Movement might retain your services; otherwise, you will be challenged severely in all upcoming PRIMARY ELECTIONS at every opportunity, so that you can be eliminated as an infestation of the Democratic Party that is contrary to the best interests of the GRASS ROOTS MOVEMENT of WE THE PEOPLE, the Working and Poor Class and Culture.

I noticed on CNN Election Coverage 2006 that the Political Left's democratic BLUE Conservative Democrat was marked on their Voting Board as also PURPLE, which is the COLOR of the RED RIGHT-WING'S Democratic Leadership Council, DLC.

The only way Left-Wing democratic BLUE could appear Right-Wing autocratic PURPLE would be for the BLUE to have been sabotaged by the Right-Wing's DLC autocratic REPUBLICAN RED EXTREME.

Apparently the Right-Wing CNN saboteur that put AUTOCRATIC PURPLE along side the DEMOCRATIC BLUE on their Voting Board is proud of the Right-Wing's DLC autocratic RED sabotage of the Democratic Party's BLUE, but WAIT.

The Right-Wing RED autocratic DLC PURPLE camouflaged in the BLUE of the Democratic Party is NEXT to be weeded out of the BLUE, the GREEN and the YELLOW. Right-Wing RED is always trying to hide under Left-Wing democratic colors.

The cruel autocratic RED EXTREME REPUBLICAN Conservatives, with all their power, and all their money, and all their authority LOST the 2006 General Election to DEMOCRACY and are trying to blame someone other than themselves.

Yesterday on C-Span there were some Conservatives, apparently disgusted with the earthquake and ensuing DEMOCRATIC tsunami taking MAJORITY CONTROL of the whole United States CONGRESS, spinning their Conservatism and wanting the public to think Conservatism's color is YELLOW, because one of them, while talking Conservatism, was sporting a bright YELLOW tie. YELLOW is the color of the Left-Wing democratic Liberal. They said they weren't spinning, but spin they did.

Since Right-Wing autocratic RED Conservatism is definitely NOT democratic Left-Wing BLUE Conservatism, could it be the RED Conservatives want WE THE PEOPLE to think Conservatism is YELLOW????? If not, why is Conservative RED always hiding under a Liberal cover?

YELLOW is as democratically politically Liberal as it gets. FREE and Liberal YELLOW. There is no way any kind of Conservative can spin their way into being Politically YELLOW, but the Right-Wing will never quit trying to spin the public into thinking their cruel Conservative RED has softened into Liberal YELLOW.

It is good that Democracy in the United States has been returned to YELLOW, GREEN and BLUE. Isn't it said, "It's Better DEAD than RED"? It is the same RED.

In time the Right-Wing's RED camouflage of democracy's BLUE to appear PURPLE will be ferreted out of the Democratic Party. There is no room in the Democratic Party for the RED Republican's sneaky PURPLE Democratic Leadership Council.