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Good Afternoon, everyone.
The 'untouchables' of US science
When George Bush banned funding he effectively put researchers into quarantine
The Bush administrtion/Bush family have set out to take the continent of South America.
Posted by J on December 29, 2006 at 01:53 PM
After they destroy North America by turning us into a 3rd world country.
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Dors, forget speaking French, we all better learn Spanish. (my 2 year old niece watches Dora...they are teaching them young on the tube.)
The Union of Concerned Scientists think otherwise, Stevie.
Global warming is one of the most serious challenges facing us today. To protect the health and economic well-being of current and future generations, we must reduce our emissions of heat-trapping gases by using the technology, know-how, and practical solutions already at our disposal.
Attacks in Iraq rage; dozens dead, more suicide bombers. Full Story:
Reminder for the new year 2006 in January:
Bring the Peace Mandate to D.C. on Jan. 27! On Election Day the voters delivered a dramatic, unmistakable mandate for peace. Now it's time for action. Join CODEPINK and many others in a national march to D.C. on January 27-29, to send a strong, clear message to Congress and the Bush Administration: The people of this country want the war and occupation in Iraq to end and we want the troops home now! Click link below for more details and spread the word around:
http://www.codepink4peace.org/article.php?list=type&type=185
An ice shelf the size of 11,000 football fields that broke off Ellesmere Island (Canadian arctic) could be dangerous when it starts to drift, a scientist says. Read more:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/north/story/2006/12/28/tech-ellesmereiceshelfcollapse-20061228.html
A Canadian committee examining whether the country's polar bears need more protection should complete its work next year. Read more »
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/north/story/2006/12/29/polar-canada.html
INDEPTH: CLIMATE CHANGE
Global warming
CBC News Online
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/climatechange
Arctic climate change:
I've already had 2 guys pick up their petitions for city mayor & ward council. They are both repugs, so I offered no after hours services. I did remind my ex that his term for village mayor is up this year and that he would have to file his petition in August. He stated he would run if nobody else was interested. I don't think his new girlfriend encourages him to be involved in anything she has no interest in. That's too bad, because I always thought he did a good job for the village he represents.
I plan on helping a friend run his campaign for township trustee this fall. Who knows, if the carpenter & I get married, maybe I'll gently persuade him to run for trustee sometime too. ;) My civic duties are limited. I can't run or be appointed to public office while running elections, and I can't be without a job. I do plan on attending the next village council meeting and offering to be a part of the street commission team. They want to enact ordinances concerning the up keep of properties/lawns. I'm going to suggest an incentive for the residents to clean up instead of just fining them. Most are elderly and low income and can't afford paying the fines. (and there are some slacker asses too...sigh) I would rather have community service people come in and work under the guidance of hired village workers. I was raised with the mindset that "you can be poor, you don't have to be dirty", so I've always tried my best to keep everything tidy. I actually enjoy helping my neighbors and doing what I can to keep my town looking pleasant. I wish you all could have witnessed me cleaning off the hillside this past summer. It's the towns property, but they don't maintain it very well. (I'm going to discuss that at the council meeting too) The hill is practically straight up and down about 75 feet. I had 3 piles of trash & brush over 10 feet high and just as wide. Before Spring, I'm tackling some more of the hillside. Damn poison ivy about did me in the month of August! It'll give me something to do when the weather is still warm in February. I hope the poison won't start growing before then. ;\
US Death Toll in
Iraq Nears 3,000
Five US Troops Added to Death Toll in Iraq
By Nancy Trejos
The Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/28/AR2006122801257.html
Correction, should read:
Reminder for the new year 2007 in January
Now it's time for action. On January 27, 2007, we will have converge from all around the country in Washington, D.C. to send a strong, clear message to Congress and the Bush Administration: The people of this country want the war and occupation in Iraq to end and we want the troops brought home now!
http://www.codepink4peace.org/article.php?list=type&type=185
Turn up the heat and keep the pressure on. Contact your Representatives now and tell them to end the Iraq war now. See link below, take action:
ImpeachPAC supports Democratic candidates for Congress who support the immediate and simultaneous impeachment of George Bush and Dick Cheney for their Iraq War lies.
America's Growing Fringe Economy
The term "fringe economy" refers to a range of businesses that engage in financially predatory relationships with lowincome or heavily indebted consumers by charging excessive interest rates, superhigh fees, or exorbitant prices for goods or services. Some examples of fringe economy businesses include payday lenders, pawnshops, check-cashers, tax refund lenders, rent-to-own stores, and "buy-here/pay-here" used car lots. The fringe economy also includes credit card companies that charge excessive late payment or over-the-creditlimit penalties; cell phone providers that force less creditworthy customers into expensive prepaid plans; and subprime mortgage lenders that gouge prospective homeowners
For J, 'cause she makes the bestest breakfasts.
Disputed Florida election to spill onto House floor
A disputed election result in a House of Representatives race in Florida will be one of the first items raised when the Democratic-controlled House convenes next week, injecting partisan politics into the start of the 110th Congress.
Rep. Rush Holt, a New Jersey Democrat who has pushed for better safeguards on electronic voting machines, said on Friday that he will make a procedural point to establish that the swearing-in of Florida Republican Vern Buchanan does not prejudice ongoing challenges by his Democratic opponent, Christine Jennings.
Good afternoon, everyone.
WH: bin Laden Capture "A Success That Hasn't Occured Yet"
I just love this statement by that Townsend woman. It symbolizes everything dishonest about these GOP con men.
Is there anything that this Republican regime can point to as a success that has "already" happened? It's like we are being told to wait for the second coming of something that they never were able to do in the first place.
I'd like to still be alive when these great "successes" happen. I'd like my grandchildren to still be alive when they happen.
I suppose that in the minds of Republicans they see "freedom in Iraq" is a cyclical thing like global warming that may happen in another 30,000 years...barring that another meteorite doesn't hit the earth first.
Same Folks Whom Outlawed Christians in Rome
Sung to the Tune of 'Oh, Susannah']
Well, I was born a farmer's son, a plow within my hand,
I plowed a row to Washington, where this crop once began.
I smelled the fertilizer, as they piled it on real thick.
I hate to say that they're a liar, but I know they've pulled a trick.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, and we're the same crooks you and me.
Well, as I aged and I grew older-I studied politics,
Yet, had trouble being a liar, and it left me in a fix.
Borrowed money as a student, to learn about the con,
Refuse to repay it, as a VICTIM--" I AM ONE"
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked back on the history and how things came to be,
As men did evil deeds unknown to illiterate peasantry.
I thought about in Europe, when they were locked up for debt,
And how enslaved they were, and so many are still yet.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked a cross my country, yes, once again at war,
Thought about profits made from weapons sales while my pockets are tore,
And America's wealth was plundered by those whom ask for more,
Bringing long-barrels of thunder far away from a distant shore.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I shunned my career in politics, as a cop, lawyer, or a judge,
As it started with some EuroTricks of fancyboys packing fudge,
Educated and with wealth borrowed from EuroRoyalty,
And like those who followed after -a good guy- cannot be.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked farther back in history, way back to ancient Rome,
Where an honest man was crucified--for one and all, not some,
I took a good look at our leaders as I knew what they had done.
Descendants of the mentality of those whom killed God's Only Son.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I thought about my country--they said, for religion and freedom we came here.
Yet so many were in chains, and others indentured for many years.
By Nobles and Merchants from Europe, advantaged by what they've got,
That they long plundered and stole from others - thus, why they have a lot.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I thought about the nation's wealth as I watched my country bleed,
Shipped to just a few accounts in Europe, as they steal way more than they need.
A war fought on new credit for children to pay not yet been born
As Americans bend over and swear that their pants are not torn.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I watch them prance across a stage, a crook and liar every one,
As media props up their masquerade, and I'm glad I'm a farmer's son.
Americans are follish as they buy these centuries old lies.
I think about my Father, and now I know why he cries.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
Well, I've been put in jail a time or two, just because I am poor.
By unjust laws and men whom came here from a distant shore.
They say that it is justice as they write more and more.
Stealing all my liberty, that I once had before.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
Ever notice how those whom have stolen wealth, now rich, never go to jail?
Write laws to gtive more tasks to the poor, whom often cannot afford bail?
As they pay for the men whom calim right, as they put them in a cage?
I wonder if dirty. evil Might, makes right--as I wander down the trail.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
So, I gave up seeking morals and ethics in the con they play,
As there are none in law or politics in this European USA.
I couldn't be a cop, as much law they enforce is just wrong,
Benefits the filthy elitist rich, whom have pillaged all along.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, but we're NOT thesame--CROOKS, YOU--not ME!
Same Folks Whom Outlawed Christians in Rome
Sung to the Tune of 'Oh, Susannah']
Well, I was born a farmer's son, a plow within my hand,
I plowed a row to Washington, where this crop once began.
I smelled the fertilizer, as they piled it on real thick.
I hate to say that they're a liar, but I know they've pulled a trick.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, and we're the same crooks you and me.
Well, as I aged and I grew older-I studied politics,
Yet, had trouble being a liar, and it left me in a fix.
Borrowed money as a student, to learn about the con,
Refuse to repay it, as a VICTIM--" I AM ONE"
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked back on the history and how things came to be,
As men did evil deeds unknown to illiterate peasantry.
I thought about in Europe, when they were locked up for debt,
And how enslaved they were, and so many are still yet.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked a cross my country, yes, once again at war,
Thought about profits made from weapons sales while my pockets are tore,
And America's wealth was plundered by those whom ask for more,
Bringing long-barrels of thunder far away from a distant shore.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I shunned my career in politics, as a cop, lawyer, or a judge,
As it started with some EuroTricks of fancyboys packing fudge,
Educated and with wealth borrowed from EuroRoyalty,
And like those who followed after -a good guy- cannot be.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked farther back in history, way back to ancient Rome,
Where an honest man was crucified--for one and all, not some,
I took a good look at our leaders as I knew what they had done.
Descendants of the mentality of those whom killed God's Only Son.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I thought about my country--they said, for religion and freedom we came here.
Yet so many were in chains, and others indentured for many years.
By Nobles and Merchants from Europe, advantaged by what they've got,
That they long plundered and stole from others - thus, why they have a lot.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I thought about the nation's wealth as I watched my country bleed,
Shipped to just a few accounts in Europe, as they steal way more than they need.
A war fought on new credit for children to pay not yet been born
As Americans bend over and swear that their pants are not torn.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I watch them prance across a stage, a crook and liar every one,
As media props up their masquerade, and I'm glad I'm a farmer's son.
Americans are follish as they buy these centuries old lies.
I think about my Father, and now I know why he cries.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
Well, I've been put in jail a time or two, just because I am poor.
By unjust laws and men whom came here from a distant shore.
They say that it is justice as they write more and more.
Stealing all my liberty, that I once had before.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
Ever notice how those whom have stolen wealth, now rich, never go to jail?
Write laws to gtive more tasks to the poor, whom often cannot afford bail?
As they pay for the men whom calim right, as they put them in a cage?
I wonder if dirty. evil Might, makes right--as I wander down the trail.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
So, I gave up seeking morals and ethics in the con they play,
As there are none in law or politics in this European USA.
I couldn't be a cop, as much law they enforce is just wrong,
Benefits the filthy elitist rich, whom have pillaged all along.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, but we're NOT thesame--CROOKS, YOU--not ME!
Same Folks Whom Outlawed Christians in Rome
Sung to the Tune of 'Oh, Susannah']
Well, I was born a farmer's son, a plow within my hand,
I plowed a row to Washington, where this crop once began.
I smelled the fertilizer, as they piled it on real thick.
I hate to say that they're a liar, but I know they've pulled a trick.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, and we're the same crooks you and me.
Well, as I aged and I grew older-I studied politics,
Yet, had trouble being a liar, and it left me in a fix.
Borrowed money as a student, to learn about the con,
Refuse to repay it, as a VICTIM--" I AM ONE"
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked back on the history and how things came to be,
As men did evil deeds unknown to illiterate peasantry.
I thought about in Europe, when they were locked up for debt,
And how enslaved they were, and so many are still yet.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked a cross my country, yes, once again at war,
Thought about profits made from weapons sales while my pockets are tore,
And America's wealth was plundered by those whom ask for more,
Bringing long-barrels of thunder far away from a distant shore.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I shunned my career in politics, as a cop, lawyer, or a judge,
As it started with some EuroTricks of fancyboys packing fudge,
Educated and with wealth borrowed from EuroRoyalty,
And like those who followed after -a good guy- cannot be.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked farther back in history, way back to ancient Rome,
Where an honest man was crucified--for one and all, not some,
I took a good look at our leaders as I knew what they had done.
Descendants of the mentality of those whom killed God's Only Son.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I thought about my country--they said, for religion and freedom we came here.
Yet so many were in chains, and others indentured for many years.
By Nobles and Merchants from Europe, advantaged by what they've got,
That they long plundered and stole from others - thus, why they have a lot.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I thought about the nation's wealth as I watched my country bleed,
Shipped to just a few accounts in Europe, as they steal way more than they need.
A war fought on new credit for children to pay not yet been born
As Americans bend over and swear that their pants are not torn.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I watch them prance across a stage, a crook and liar every one,
As media props up their masquerade, and I'm glad I'm a farmer's son.
Americans are follish as they buy these centuries old lies.
I think about my Father, and now I know why he cries.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
Well, I've been put in jail a time or two, just because I am poor.
By unjust laws and men whom came here from a distant shore.
They say that it is justice as they write more and more.
Stealing all my liberty, that I once had before.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
Ever notice how those whom have stolen wealth, now rich, never go to jail?
Write laws to gtive more tasks to the poor, whom often cannot afford bail?
As they pay for the men whom calim right, as they put them in a cage?
I wonder if dirty. evil Might, makes right--as I wander down the trail.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
So, I gave up seeking morals and ethics in the con they play,
As there are none in law or politics in this European USA.
I couldn't be a cop, as much law they enforce is just wrong,
Benefits the filthy elitist rich, whom have pillaged all along.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, but we're NOT thesame--CROOKS, YOU--not ME!
Same Folks Whom Outlawed Christians in Rome
Sung to the Tune of 'Oh, Susannah']
Well, I was born a farmer's son, a plow within my hand,
I plowed a row to Washington, where this crop once began.
I smelled the fertilizer, as they piled it on real thick.
I hate to say that they're a liar, but I know they've pulled a trick.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, and we're the same crooks you and me.
Well, as I aged and I grew older-I studied politics,
Yet, had trouble being a liar, and it left me in a fix.
Borrowed money as a student, to learn about the con,
Refuse to repay it, as a VICTIM--" I AM ONE"
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked back on the history and how things came to be,
As men did evil deeds unknown to illiterate peasantry.
I thought about in Europe, when they were locked up for debt,
And how enslaved they were, and so many are still yet.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked a cross my country, yes, once again at war,
Thought about profits made from weapons sales while my pockets are tore,
And America's wealth was plundered by those whom ask for more,
Bringing long-barrels of thunder far away from a distant shore.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I shunned my career in politics, as a cop, lawyer, or a judge,
As it started with some EuroTricks of fancyboys packing fudge,
Educated and with wealth borrowed from EuroRoyalty,
And like those who followed after -a good guy- cannot be.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked farther back in history, way back to ancient Rome,
Where an honest man was crucified--for one and all, not some,
I took a good look at our leaders as I knew what they had done.
Descendants of the mentality of those whom killed God's Only Son.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I thought about my country--they said, for religion and freedom we came here.
Yet so many were in chains, and others indentured for many years.
By Nobles and Merchants from Europe, advantaged by what they've got,
That they long plundered and stole from others - thus, why they have a lot.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I thought about the nation's wealth as I watched my country bleed,
Shipped to just a few accounts in Europe, as they steal way more than they need.
A war fought on new credit for children to pay not yet been born
As Americans bend over and swear that their pants are not torn.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I watch them prance across a stage, a crook and liar every one,
As media props up their masquerade, and I'm glad I'm a farmer's son.
Americans are follish as they buy these centuries old lies.
I think about my Father, and now I know why he cries.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
Well, I've been put in jail a time or two, just because I am poor.
By unjust laws and men whom came here from a distant shore.
They say that it is justice as they write more and more.
Stealing all my liberty, that I once had before.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
Ever notice how those whom have stolen wealth, now rich, never go to jail?
Write laws to gtive more tasks to the poor, whom often cannot afford bail?
As they pay for the men whom calim right, as they put them in a cage?
I wonder if dirty. evil Might, makes right--as I wander down the trail.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
So, I gave up seeking morals and ethics in the con they play,
As there are none in law or politics in this European USA.
I couldn't be a cop, as much law they enforce is just wrong,
Benefits the filthy elitist rich, whom have pillaged all along.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, but we're NOT thesame--CROOKS, YOU--not ME!
Same Folks Whom Outlawed Christians in Rome
Sung to the Tune of 'Oh, Susannah']
Well, I was born a farmer's son, a plow within my hand,
I plowed a row to Washington, where this crop once began.
I smelled the fertilizer, as they piled it on real thick.
I hate to say that they're a liar, but I know they've pulled a trick.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, and we're the same crooks you and me.
Well, as I aged and I grew older-I studied politics,
Yet, had trouble being a liar, and it left me in a fix.
Borrowed money as a student, to learn about the con,
Refuse to repay it, as a VICTIM--" I AM ONE"
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked back on the history and how things came to be,
As men did evil deeds unknown to illiterate peasantry.
I thought about in Europe, when they were locked up for debt,
And how enslaved they were, and so many are still yet.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked a cross my country, yes, once again at war,
Thought about profits made from weapons sales while my pockets are tore,
And America's wealth was plundered by those whom ask for more,
Bringing long-barrels of thunder far away from a distant shore.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I shunned my career in politics, as a cop, lawyer, or a judge,
As it started with some EuroTricks of fancyboys packing fudge,
Educated and with wealth borrowed from EuroRoyalty,
And like those who followed after -a good guy- cannot be.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked farther back in history, way back to ancient Rome,
Where an honest man was crucified--for one and all, not some,
I took a good look at our leaders as I knew what they had done.
Descendants of the mentality of those whom killed God's Only Son.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I thought about my country--they said, for religion and freedom we came here.
Yet so many were in chains, and others indentured for many years.
By Nobles and Merchants from Europe, advantaged by what they've got,
That they long plundered and stole from others - thus, why they have a lot.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I thought about the nation's wealth as I watched my country bleed,
Shipped to just a few accounts in Europe, as they steal way more than they need.
A war fought on new credit for children to pay not yet been born
As Americans bend over and swear that their pants are not torn.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I watch them prance across a stage, a crook and liar every one,
As media props up their masquerade, and I'm glad I'm a farmer's son.
Americans are follish as they buy these centuries old lies.
I think about my Father, and now I know why he cries.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
Well, I've been put in jail a time or two, just because I am poor.
By unjust laws and men whom came here from a distant shore.
They say that it is justice as they write more and more.
Stealing all my liberty, that I once had before.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
Ever notice how those whom have stolen wealth, now rich, never go to jail?
Write laws to gtive more tasks to the poor, whom often cannot afford bail?
As they pay for the men whom calim right, as they put them in a cage?
I wonder if dirty. evil Might, makes right--as I wander down the trail.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
So, I gave up seeking morals and ethics in the con they play,
As there are none in law or politics in this European USA.
I couldn't be a cop, as much law they enforce is just wrong,
Benefits the filthy elitist rich, whom have pillaged all along.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, but we're NOT thesame--CROOKS, YOU--not ME!
Same Folks Whom Outlawed Christians in Rome
Sung to the Tune of 'Oh, Susannah']
Well, I was born a farmer's son, a plow within my hand,
I plowed a row to Washington, where this crop once began.
I smelled the fertilizer, as they piled it on real thick.
I hate to say that they're a liar, but I know they've pulled a trick.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, and we're the same crooks you and me.
Well, as I aged and I grew older-I studied politics,
Yet, had trouble being a liar, and it left me in a fix.
Borrowed money as a student, to learn about the con,
Refuse to repay it, as a VICTIM--" I AM ONE"
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked back on the history and how things came to be,
As men did evil deeds unknown to illiterate peasantry.
I thought about in Europe, when they were locked up for debt,
And how enslaved they were, and so many are still yet.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked a cross my country, yes, once again at war,
Thought about profits made from weapons sales while my pockets are tore,
And America's wealth was plundered by those whom ask for more,
Bringing long-barrels of thunder far away from a distant shore.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I shunned my career in politics, as a cop, lawyer, or a judge,
As it started with some EuroTricks of fancyboys packing fudge,
Educated and with wealth borrowed from EuroRoyalty,
And like those who followed after -a good guy- cannot be.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked farther back in history, way back to ancient Rome,
Where an honest man was crucified--for one and all, not some,
I took a good look at our leaders as I knew what they had done.
Descendants of the mentality of those whom killed God's Only Son.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I thought about my country--they said, for religion and freedom we came here.
Yet so many were in chains, and others indentured for many years.
By Nobles and Merchants from Europe, advantaged by what they've got,
That they long plundered and stole from others - thus, why they have a lot.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I thought about the nation's wealth as I watched my country bleed,
Shipped to just a few accounts in Europe, as they steal way more than they need.
A war fought on new credit for children to pay not yet been born
As Americans bend over and swear that their pants are not torn.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I watch them prance across a stage, a crook and liar every one,
As media props up their masquerade, and I'm glad I'm a farmer's son.
Americans are follish as they buy these centuries old lies.
I think about my Father, and now I know why he cries.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
Well, I've been put in jail a time or two, just because I am poor.
By unjust laws and men whom came here from a distant shore.
They say that it is justice as they write more and more.
Stealing all my liberty, that I once had before.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
Ever notice how those whom have stolen wealth, now rich, never go to jail?
Write laws to gtive more tasks to the poor, whom often cannot afford bail?
As they pay for the men whom calim right, as they put them in a cage?
I wonder if dirty. evil Might, makes right--as I wander down the trail.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
So, I gave up seeking morals and ethics in the con they play,
As there are none in law or politics in this European USA.
I couldn't be a cop, as much law they enforce is just wrong,
Benefits the filthy elitist rich, whom have pillaged all along.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, but we're NOT thesame--CROOKS, YOU--not ME!
Same Folks Whom Outlawed Christians in Rome
Sung to the Tune of 'Oh, Susannah']
Well, I was born a farmer's son, a plow within my hand,
I plowed a row to Washington, where this crop once began.
I smelled the fertilizer, as they piled it on real thick.
I hate to say that they're a liar, but I know they've pulled a trick.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, and we're the same crooks you and me.
Well, as I aged and I grew older-I studied politics,
Yet, had trouble being a liar, and it left me in a fix.
Borrowed money as a student, to learn about the con,
Refuse to repay it, as a VICTIM--" I AM ONE"
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked back on the history and how things came to be,
As men did evil deeds unknown to illiterate peasantry.
I thought about in Europe, when they were locked up for debt,
And how enslaved they were, and so many are still yet.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked a cross my country, yes, once again at war,
Thought about profits made from weapons sales while my pockets are tore,
And America's wealth was plundered by those whom ask for more,
Bringing long-barrels of thunder far away from a distant shore.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I shunned my career in politics, as a cop, lawyer, or a judge,
As it started with some EuroTricks of fancyboys packing fudge,
Educated and with wealth borrowed from EuroRoyalty,
And like those who followed after -a good guy- cannot be.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked farther back in history, way back to ancient Rome,
Where an honest man was crucified--for one and all, not some,
I took a good look at our leaders as I knew what they had done.
Descendants of the mentality of those whom killed God's Only Son.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I thought about my country--they said, for religion and freedom we came here.
Yet so many were in chains, and others indentured for many years.
By Nobles and Merchants from Europe, advantaged by what they've got,
That they long plundered and stole from others - thus, why they have a lot.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I thought about the nation's wealth as I watched my country bleed,
Shipped to just a few accounts in Europe, as they steal way more than they need.
A war fought on new credit for children to pay not yet been born
As Americans bend over and swear that their pants are not torn.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I watch them prance across a stage, a crook and liar every one,
As media props up their masquerade, and I'm glad I'm a farmer's son.
Americans are follish as they buy these centuries old lies.
I think about my Father, and now I know why he cries.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
Well, I've been put in jail a time or two, just because I am poor.
By unjust laws and men whom came here from a distant shore.
They say that it is justice as they write more and more.
Stealing all my liberty, that I once had before.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
Ever notice how those whom have stolen wealth, now rich, never go to jail?
Write laws to gtive more tasks to the poor, whom often cannot afford bail?
As they pay for the men whom calim right, as they put them in a cage?
I wonder if dirty. evil Might, makes right--as I wander down the trail.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
So, I gave up seeking morals and ethics in the con they play,
As there are none in law or politics in this European USA.
I couldn't be a cop, as much law they enforce is just wrong,
Benefits the filthy elitist rich, whom have pillaged all along.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, but we're NOT thesame--CROOKS, YOU--not ME!
Same Folks Whom Outlawed Christians in Rome
Sung to the Tune of 'Oh, Susannah']
Well, I was born a farmer's son, a plow within my hand,
I plowed a row to Washington, where this crop once began.
I smelled the fertilizer, as they piled it on real thick.
I hate to say that they're a liar, but I know they've pulled a trick.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, and we're the same crooks you and me.
Well, as I aged and I grew older-I studied politics,
Yet, had trouble being a liar, and it left me in a fix.
Borrowed money as a student, to learn about the con,
Refuse to repay it, as a VICTIM--" I AM ONE"
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked back on the history and how things came to be,
As men did evil deeds unknown to illiterate peasantry.
I thought about in Europe, when they were locked up for debt,
And how enslaved they were, and so many are still yet.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked a cross my country, yes, once again at war,
Thought about profits made from weapons sales while my pockets are tore,
And America's wealth was plundered by those whom ask for more,
Bringing long-barrels of thunder far away from a distant shore.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I shunned my career in politics, as a cop, lawyer, or a judge,
As it started with some EuroTricks of fancyboys packing fudge,
Educated and with wealth borrowed from EuroRoyalty,
And like those who followed after -a good guy- cannot be.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I looked farther back in history, way back to ancient Rome,
Where an honest man was crucified--for one and all, not some,
I took a good look at our leaders as I knew what they had done.
Descendants of the mentality of those whom killed God's Only Son.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I thought about my country--they said, for religion and freedom we came here.
Yet so many were in chains, and others indentured for many years.
By Nobles and Merchants from Europe, advantaged by what they've got,
That they long plundered and stole from others - thus, why they have a lot.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I thought about the nation's wealth as I watched my country bleed,
Shipped to just a few accounts in Europe, as they steal way more than they need.
A war fought on new credit for children to pay not yet been born
As Americans bend over and swear that their pants are not torn.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
I watch them prance across a stage, a crook and liar every one,
As media props up their masquerade, and I'm glad I'm a farmer's son.
Americans are follish as they buy these centuries old lies.
I think about my Father, and now I know why he cries.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
Well, I've been put in jail a time or two, just because I am poor.
By unjust laws and men whom came here from a distant shore.
They say that it is justice as they write more and more.
Stealing all my liberty, that I once had before.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
Ever notice how those whom have stolen wealth, now rich, never go to jail?
Write laws to gtive more tasks to the poor, whom often cannot afford bail?
As they pay for the men whom calim right, as they put them in a cage?
I wonder if dirty. evil Might, makes right--as I wander down the trail.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, we're the same crooks you and me.
So, I gave up seeking morals and ethics in the con they play,
As there are none in law or politics in this European USA.
I couldn't be a cop, as much law they enforce is just wrong,
Benefits the filthy elitist rich, whom have pillaged all along.
Oh, Satana, why do you lie to me?
I was born American, but we're NOT thesame--CROOKS, YOU--not ME!
Good day,
I see some stories from 2 days ago about Palestine smuggling rockets in preparation for attacking Israel, then this yesterday:
TEL AVIV, Israel, Dec. 28 (UPI) -- Egypt sent thousands of guns to Palestinian forces loyal to President Mahmoud Abbas to bolster his position in the confrontation with Hamas.
The Haaretz newspaper said that Wednesday's shipment included 2,000 AK-47 Kalachnikov automatic rifles, 20,000 magazines and two million rounds of ammunition. A senior Israeli defense official confirmed the report.
The shipment was transferred through Israel whose Military Police accompanied the trucks from the Egyptian border to the Karni crossing, east of Gaza City, where Palestinian security personnel received it.
The United States was paying for it, an Israeli government official said.
A senior Israeli defense official noted Hamas' men in Gaza are better armed, organized, and command public support. Israel, like the United States, considers Hamas a terrorist organization. Fatah, whose leaders seek peace with Israel, is split.
President Abbas Saturday told Prime Minister Ehud Olmert his men are in a difficult situation because they -- unlike their rivals -- do not smuggle money and weapons into the Gaza Strip.
The head of the Defense Minister's Political-Security Bureau, Maj. Gen. in the reserves Amos Gilad said the shipment was not Israeli aid to Abbas and Fatah "but Arab aid because the moderates must be strengthened."
The struggle in the Palestinian Authority is between forces that want to turn the entire Middle East into an extremist arena that combines terror with religious motivations. Moderate countries including Egypt and Saudi Arabia are helping forces that seek peace, he added.
www.upi.com/InternationalIntelligence/view.php?StoryID=20061228-033829-6597r
-they seal the borders, throw in the weapons, and hope for the best?
Posted by BlueMoon on December 29, 2006 at 05:11 PM
Silly guy! I don't feel like googling to find out if that's true or you're just making a funny.
My girls & I wanted snow this Holiday Season! Necee woke up and said it didn't feel like Christmas without it. (I didn't want to bust her bubble and tell her it's because she's an adult now. haha She'll understand when she has kids of her own)
Are you doing anything fun this New Year's Eve weekend, like taking your daughter to the movies? I wanted to go see "A night at the Museum", but doubt we go this weekend. The boys are coming down with their dad. We have a party to go to 12-31 and I have lots of cooking for our "come & go" party we have planned for the 1st. I wanted to buy "An Inconvenient Truth", but it's sold out locally. I so dislike the mall. Maybe I'll purchase it from Amazon after I return from Z's congressional swearing in bus tour. I'll mail you dvd if you promise to watch it. It will be a belated Christmas gift.
Impeachment talk is stupid talk.
Posted by BlueMoon on December 29, 2006 at 05:17 PM
But it scares the shit out of the knuckleheads in the White House who are lawyering up in anticipation of the tar and feathers. Talk is cheap but legal advise isn't. The GOP is being forced to waste money and resources on things that won't help them in 2008. It's a win, win situation for Democrats.
These people should concentrate their efforts on something that could happen.
There is a far greater chance that an impeachment might happen than Bush ever finishing anything he ever started.
Fugs Kill For Peace Lyrics
Kill, kill, kill for peace
Kill, kill, kill for peace
Near or middle or very far east
Far or near or very middle east
Kill, kill, kill for peace
Kill, kill, kill for peace
If you don't like the people
or the way that they talk
If you don't like their manners
or they way that they walk,
Kill, kill, kill for peace
Kill, kill, kill for peace
If you don't kill them
then the Chinese will
If you don't want America
to play second fiddle,
Kill, kill, kill for peace
..........con't
www.metrolyrics.com/lyrics/69000/Fugs/Kill_For_Peace
Posted by HowTheDevilDoesBusiness on December 29, 2006 at 05:26 PM
I guess he does it over, and over, and over, and over....
Hi SandyH,
Thanks for making me honorary(?) member of the H clan last night. Guess I didn't notice right away.
Continuing Creepshow:
Cheney faces troubled new year
Published: December 29 2006 18:39 | Last updated: December 29 2006 18:39
Dick Cheney has forged a reputation as the most powerful but also least visible vice-president in recent history. In the next few weeks, however, he will be forced to fight some of his battles in the open – in the courtroom and on Capitol Hill.
The first test will come in the criminal trial of his former chief of staff, Lewis “Scooter” Libby, charged with lying to a grand jury during an investigation into how a CIA agent’s name was leaked. The trial, due to begin in two weeks, is likely to set an ignominious precedent when Mr Cheney becomes the first vice-president to testify in a trial.
Mr Cheney’s legal team are also steeling themselves for the launch of legislative investigations by the new Democrat-controlled Congress.
In 2004 the vice-president felt confident enough to dismiss questions from Patrick Leahy, then a powerless Democrat, with a lewd invitation for him to do something sexually impossible. Now, he faces political revenge: Mr Leahy, the incoming chairman of the judiciary committee, has said he will issue subpoenas to secure documents that show whether the Bush administration authorised torture as part of its “war on terror”.
He also vowed to look into no-bid Iraq contracts, including those awarded to Halliburton, a company the vice-president once ran. He said: “At the risk of incurring another of Vice-President Cheney’s special season’s greetings, I ask: ‘Where did all the money go?’
I do believe he said to get off our slackers!!!
Overflow crowd greets Edwards' tour
It was a crowd to warm any candidate's heart - even in a New Hampshire winter.
Over a year ahead of the nation's first presidential primary, so many voters turned out Friday to hear Democratic hopeful John Edwards' call for a new spirit of American activism on problems ranging from poverty to global warming that hundreds were left standing outside in freezing temperatures.
Nearly a quarter of the crowd of more than 800 were unable to squeeze into the elementary school cafeteria where Edwards was to speak.
The former North Carolina senator and 2004 vice presidential nominee ended up giving his introductory remarks outside, using a microphone that broadcast his voice inside, before heading indoors.
"What we're asking is for you, the people of New Hampshire, not to wait for the next election to take responsibility," he said. "Identifying a problem and talking about hope is talking about tomorrow. We can't wait until tomorrow."
A newly discovered tiny creature again raises the question: What is life?
The discovery of what may be the smallest living creature on Earth raises anew the ancient question: What is life?
I like Kall's scenario: Investigate the underlings. Promise them jail time. Or...information on who said what to whom and when. Oh! Chaney said that?..to Rice...AND Rummy...just after he told the Prez? Well take a number...you will be testifying...in Congressional hearings...and Courts. Ho hum...another Pug to jail. Good thing Bush had Haliburton build all those detention places.
My guess on Cheney is he'll resign before having to testify and then get a pardon to preclude indictment and further testimony.
Hope they don't try to foist Jeb on us and into the WH by appointment.
Who is to say that Saddam hasn't written down his memories and preserved papers/tapes of his conversations with Rumsfeld and other members of the Reagan/Bush White House...regarding how they supplied him with WMD poisonious gas and gave him instructions on how to use them on Iran and the Kurds.
Maybe the Shiites (especially those in Iran) would be willing to let Saddam live a little longer if he would agree to tell the World Court who his co-conspirators were.
Wouldn't it be interesting if this testimony was aired on al Jezzara right after Saddam's execution? There must be a reason why Saddam's sister is considered so dangerous to so many people...Bath Party and Shiites. Maybe she knows where the evidence is and is about to unleash it on the neocons?
Democratic majority to focus on 3-pronged plan
"Democrats are prepared to govern and ready to lead," the speaker-designate said before leaving Washington for the holiday break. When President Bush makes his annual address before Congress on Jan. 23, Pelosi said, "He will walk into a new place, where America's families' issues will have been addressed even before the State of the Union."
For J, 'cause she makes the bestest breakfasts.
Disputed Florida election to spill onto House floor
Rep. Rush Holt, a New Jersey Democrat who has pushed for better safeguards on electronic voting machines, said on Friday that he will make a procedural point to establish that the swearing-in of Florida Republican Vern Buchanan does not prejudice ongoing challenges by his Democratic opponent, Christine Jennings.
Posted by Esmeralda on December 29, 2006 at 05:15 PM
Thanks Es!!! Made my day! Not trying to be ugly to Vern Buchanan on his swearing in, BUT this woman, Christine Jennings shouldn't be tossed aside like a piece of trash. She has a validclaim
WASHINGTON — The American military, once a staunch supporter of President Bush and the Iraq war, has grown increasingly pessimistic about chances for victory.
For the first time, more troops disapprove of the president's handling of the war than approve of it, according to the 2006 Military Times Poll.
When the military was feeling most optimistic about the war — in 2004 — 83% of poll respondents thought success in Iraq was likely. This year, that number has shrunk to 50%.
Only 35% of the military members polled this year said they approve of the way Bush is handling the war, and 42% said they disapprove. While approval of the president's war leadership has slumped, his overall approval remains high among the military.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2006-12-29-poll-iraq_x.htm?csp=34
All this big fuss over Ford ! Like he was not just another Republican sicko!
The pardon of Richard Nixon by President Gerald Ford started this nation on the path that eventually gave us the Constitutional abuses of George W Bush. The current media frenzy supporting the pardon is both simplistic and illogical.
Ford pardoned Nixon before Nixon was brought to trial or convicted. The rule of law was ignored in favor of a double-standard where Presidents were not held accountable for law-breaking. The illegal activities of Nixon in the political sphere were an assault on American Democracy and should have been severely punished. Because of Ford's outrageous pardon, Right-wing Republicans never understood how un-American the tactics of Nixon were. The current national Republican leadership is still Nixonian to their core!
The discovery of what may be the smallest living creature on Earth raises anew the ancient question: What is life?
Posted by Esmeralda on December 29, 2006 at 05:48
PM
Well, it sure isn't a cloned GOP elephant.
Essie,
We plan to be with family on New Year's Eve Day and have a quiet night at home in the evening. I think the plan is for the boys and their girl friends to go to a movie with us on New Years Day. There must be about ten movies out right now that I'd like to see. This is the best holiday release season in years.
J,
Have you read through all the links bluzy provided? Interesting! Great discussion on the subject.
You posted you would be putting up your thoughts that we wouldn't like. Did I miss your comments in the long thread?
The Vikings were able to settle Greenland, actually grow crops in Greenland, and life was good in Europe.
Unless you were one of those that the Vikings were plundering and raping. Ah, the good old days.
speaking of silly, isn't it amazing how they are playing up Hussein's imminent death as though it were Bin Laden, the leader of the group that financed and pulled off our 9/ll tragedy!!!???
Posted by BlueMoon on December 29, 2006 at 05:59 PM
Thank you, Steve.
One from PamB's neck of the woods.
Underdogs pursue White House beneath radar of Obama-Clinton hype
Joe Trippi, who managed Howard Dean's campaign, said these underdogs have a real shot, but they must go outside normal channels and present "some boldness that makes people say, `Wait a minute, am I really going to stay with the conventional wisdom of who is going to win here?' "
"If you're going to play by the rules, let's just stick a fork in you. Hillary Clinton is the nominee," Trippi said.
The author of that article sounds like a real winner. There are Groups of real scientists who say it is greenhouse gasses, and this weirdo is one man. (what do you want to bet that think tank is a Right wing funded one to try and dispel the idea that companies in the US are contributing to the pollution causing green house emissions?)
"He is an atmospheric physicist at George Mason University and founder of the Science and Environmental Policy Project, a think tank on climate and environmental issues. Singer has been a leading skeptic of the scientific consensus on global warming.
Pat Buchanan just compared the killing of the Romanoff’s by the Communists in Russia with what the Shiites government is going to do to Saddam in Iraq. He called it sheer power being used to brutally intimidate and blot out history.
Well, at least Buchanan can relate to the political ramifications in a realistic way. The fact that this execution is going to happen on a high holy day didn't escape his attention either.
I guess it's sort of like if we had hung Nixon on Christmas Day. It's a little over the top.
By Steve Connor
The Independent UK
It has been a hot year. The average temperature in Britain for 2006 was higher than at any time since records began in 1659. Globally, it looks set to be the sixth hottest year on record. The signs during the past 12 months have been all around us. Little winter snow in the Alpine ski resorts, continuing droughts in Africa, mountain glaciers melting faster than at any time in the past 5,000 years, disappearing Arctic sea ice, Greenland's ice sheet sliding into the sea. Oh, and a hosepipe ban in southern England.
You could be forgiven for thinking that you've heard it all before. You may think it's time to turn the page and read something else. But you'd be wrong. 2006 will be remembered by climatologists as the year in which the potential scale of global warming came into focus. And the problem can be summarised in one word: feedback.
During the past year, scientific findings emerged that made even the most doom-laden predictions about climate change seem a little on the optimistic side. And at the heart of the issue is the idea of climate feedbacks - when the effects of global warming begin to feed into the causes of global warming. Feedbacks can either make things better, or they can make things worse. The trouble is, everywhere scientists looked in 2006, they encountered feedbacks that will make things worse - a lot worse.
Next year, the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) will publish its fourth assessment on the scale of the future problems facing humanity. Its last assessment, published in 2001, had little to say on the subject of climate feedbacks, partly because, at that time, they were such an unknown quantity. This year, scientists came to learn a little more about them, and they didn't like what they learnt.
During the past two decades, the IPCC has tended to regard the Earth's climate as something that will change gradually and smoothly, as carbon dioxide and global temperatures continue their lock-step rise. But there is a growing consensus among many climate scientists that this may be giving a false sense of security. They fear that feedback reactions may begin to kick in and suddenly tip the climate beyond a critical threshold from which it cannot easily recover.
Climate feedbacks could turn the Earth into a very different planet over a dramatically short period of time. It has happened in the past, scientists say, and it could easily happen in the future given the unprecedented scale of the environmental changes caused by man.
There are two types of feedback that can play a role in the future direction of the Earth's climate. The first is a "negative" feedback, which is largely good for us, because it works against things getting worse. The classic example of a negative feedback is the fertilising effect of carbon dioxide. As concentrations rise, then so does the amount of carbon absorbed by the higher growth rate of plants. The result is a negative feedback that tends to check rising levels of carbon dioxide.
speaking of silly, isn't it amazing how they are playing up Hussein's imminent death as though it were Bin Laden, the leader of the group that financed and pulled off our 9/ll tragedy!!!???
Posted by PamB on December 29, 2006 at 06:05 PM
Thanks, Pam. Someone needed to say that.
Hi Sandy,
I am so sick of hearing about Hussein, I had to turn off the TV!
And the way they keep talking about how bush is thinking about what to do in Iraq!! Like we don't KNOW he is coming out and going to ESCALATE the amount of troops we have there, so more than the 2996 dead, and 22,500 injured can increase ! Anybody believing he will come out and say no more going , I have some property I will sell you real cheap!
Pam,
I provided a link earlier that w is thinking to help them economically...small business loans to stabilize their country.
Isn't he brilliant? ;}
You have GOT to click on this article, to see the photo they used of the jerk. He looks like he is about 90 years old himself! Not the same cocky, arrogant little pissant who was strutting just a couple months ago!
"CRAWFORD, Texas - President Bush and first lady Laura Bush were moved to an armored vehicle on their ranch Friday when a tornado warning was issued in central Texas, the White House said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061229/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_tornado
J,
Have you read through all the links bluzy provided? Interesting! Great discussion on the subject.
You posted you would be putting up your thoughts that we wouldn't like. Did I miss your comments in the long thread?
Posted by Esmeralda on December 29, 2006 at 06:03 PM
Getting started now to post what I have managed to get together. I was waiting for a new thread.
Hanging Saddam is a fun event. I wish it was on pay per view.
Posted by BlueMoon on December 29, 2006 at 06:24 PM
Death is not a fun event. Don't give our cable/dish operators any ideas...they might put it on tv. (I bet it will be on utube though)
Jacque,
Wonder where those loans will come from???
hmmmmm,. US taxpayers??
Republicans, Hold onto them there wallets!!!!!
And there are so many Iraqis wish they had Hussein back in, because the Sunnis and the Shias didn't dare shit with him in power, and life was a lot better.
Oh, except for those Kurds he killed with the US financing and blessing!!!
gotta go. UCONN basketball tickets tonight at Civic Center !
Have a good evening.
Good golly, Steve. That last comment of yours is like crap hitting the fan. (what is that bluzy does...turns the attention to something else when her boys misbehaved?) Would you vote for this guy?
Huckabee says he won't 'scare' Democrats
Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee says if he runs for president he won't be a Republican who will "scare the living daylights" out of independents and moderate Democrats.
Posted by PamB on December 29, 2006 at 06:02 PM
Pam,
I didn't mind letting Ford giving Nixon a pardon. It extended the shame. Besides the Democratic Congress openned the door by not pushing for impeachment.
My kids are really impressed by Chevy Chase's impersonations of Ford. They wonder why no commedian today has the nerve to go after Bush the same way. They think SNL tiptoes around Spunky on egg shells.
The imperial presidency needs a good satirical kick in the ribs by the younger generation. It's time to take on the man and the myth.
I had lunch with some Republican women today who can't stand Bush...really hate him. They hope someone/savior comes to the fore by 2008. Right now they aren't impressed by McCain, Gulliani, or Romney.
And they really hate Hillary. I couldn't get them to say why except that she acts uppity. She's too smart or a smart aleck or something. They also thought Kerry had the same elitist attitude.
Let's see here, they hate Bush's incompetence but the also hate Hillary's competence. I don't get it, but it bears consideration if we want and need the women's vote in 2008.
Have a great night, Pam.
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I'm out for a while too...gotta soak in bubbles and get to looking like pretty for the carpenters arrival tonight. (well, the best I can do for being sick, that is) There's a few dishes that need washed too. The house cleaning elves didn't show up, so I better get in gear.
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j, I'm looking forward to your post.
BBL
Enjoy, everyone.
Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee says if he runs for president he won't be a Republican who will "scare the living daylights" out of independents and moderate Democrats.
Posted by Esmeralda on December 29, 2006 at 06:33 PM
Well, with a name like that I guess he wouldn't scare anybody. But unfortunately it wouldn't help him to do well in the North.
My Republian gfs said Edwards and Wes Clark didn't scare them. They like the idea of a military man on the ticket. They also want this occupation to end in Iraq now not later.
What is the qt on Colin Powell? Is he still interested in being a Republican or running as a Republican? Would he flip for a spot on our ticket?
Hanging is a fun event. I wish it was on pay per view. Posted by BlueMoon
Right-Wing sickos always have loved a good lynching. You darn well they wish they could bring back the practice here in this country.
Posted by PamB on December 29, 2006 at 06:25 PM
Pam,
I didn't see Laura in that photo with Bush only Condi. Did they mix up the wives again?
Is it wise to be driving around in a vehicle, armoured of otherwise, in a tornado? Maybe they would see Barbara riding by on her bicycle?
Posted by Domingo on December 29, 2006 at 06:46 PM
They tried their darndest with Bill Clinton.
Saddam was responsible for the deaths of about a million people. Osama maybe 4 0r 5 thousand. If all people are created equal then Saddam was naughtier than Osama.
So the war on terror is a big waste of time? Wash your mouth out with soap.
I'm off for a while, too. later.
So the war on terror is a big waste of time? Wash your mouth out with soap. Posted by SandyH
This Right-Wing bozo doesn't care about "the war on terror". None of them do, including Cheney and Bush.
Riverbend Ends the silence
I know there are a lot of community members who follow Riverbend's blog. For the uninitiated, Riverbend is the psuedonymn of a young woman who lives in Baghdad, and posts a blog. In the early years, she published regularly, but as the situation has deteriorated in Iraq, her posts have become more infrequent. Also, her regular readers have noted that the tone of the blog has changed, becoming darker, with an increasing notes of despair and outrage apparent in her clear prose.
The angry sarcasm and clear insight demonstrate very clearly the crimes my country have inflicted on hers
Our homeland has not been attacked for 5.5 years now.
Well, well, well. What do you know, the wingnut even uses the Nazi terminology "homeland". I wonder where these wingnut sickos picked that up. Been reading a little mien kampf have we, pervert?
Lieberman wants more death and more war. Who would of guessed, reguardless of all his claims to the contrary during the campaign?
Good evening
Yesterday I asked folks commneting if they had some thought as to why the Bush family had purchased those hundreds of thousands of acres in Paraguay. Now I had been reading when this first came to light all kinds of things, but it just kept running around in the back of my head that there was more to this than met the eye and the whole body for that matter.
First let me thank everyone for their input and thank fade for the research she did last night digging out some info so as to get a better grasp on things. I'll try very hard not to make this a long read.
To begin the thoughts thrown out were (1) exploit some poor group of people (2) water rights (3) oil (4)avoid criminal prosecution (5) greed). Well guess what?, it's all of them. And here is what I have culled out of some media publishing that the mainstream seems to conveniently to bypass.
The large land purchase was in the country of Paraguay near what is termed as a Tri-border region in South America that consists of the countries of Brazil, Argentenia and Paraguay. It is in this area that the world's largest water reserve, the Guarani Aquifer is contained and it is in Paraguay that the Parana River is located from which the greatest amount of hydroelectric power is produced. BUT just as important if not more so is a US airbase, Mariscal Estigarribia that is fully equipped with radar system, aircraft hangers and an air traffic control tower. As a matter of fact this airbase is larger than Paraguay's international airport in Asuncion.
Now lets move on to some more description here. Believe me, I will tie it in very neatly. One of the countries in the Tri-border area is Bolivia which is also resource rich. This country happens to contain the second largest deposits of natural gas in the Western Hemisphere. Bolivia has had political unrest for decades of which the major focus is it's vast gas deposits. The US has been primary in setting the framework for economic and political instability in other Latin America countries when it is something to be gained to their advantage and Bolivia is not different, hence the airbase in Paraguay. Special Ops operations can launched from this location to wreck havoc over the entire Tri-border region which is what Rumsfeld and the Bush administration has done in the past. They worked the same terrorist hype as the did with the Middle East so as to grap control of the nations resources. But let us back up a minute. Before the Bush administration came in, the US had placed such great pressure on Bolivia that they sold off it's oil and gas to Enron, Shell in 1995 for $263.5 mil. Less than 1% of what the deposits are worth!
The Bush administration wants the bases in Paraguay (southern) and the one they now have in Manta, Ecuador (north) as launching grounds for any special ops needed to act as a catalyst to shake up Latin American countries that have something that they want. Remember Daddy Bush is a former CIA Director so he knows the ropes of making things happen to topple governments. And of course the US lies to the American public and the South American governments as to the true nature of these bases. It is always stated for humanitarian efforts, but in reality it is to help tear down a government or set up a coup so as to get a right wing dictator installed that they want and then get easy hand at the natural resources. Manta, Ecuador was labeled as dirt strip for a weather station and in 6 months was a $80 million dollar air base.
The land that the Bushes purchased runs over and around the large Guarani Aquifer. Needless to say they have angled for control over electricity for an entire continent and water for many countries which brings the discussion to "privitization" something that the Bushes know very well. Because of the foreign companies already in the country of Bolivia due to petrochemical products, two companies were given the privitization of the water supply. US Bechel and Suez de Lyonnaise des Eaux. Suez announced that it would start charging $335-445 connection per private home. This in a country whose per capita is $915 per year! Boliva has had tremendous upheaval over natural gas, oil reserves and enforced taxes. Three presidents have resigned and the country is greatly polarized between the Indian majority who live on the poverty level and the minority elite who have dominated for hundreds of years.
Add into all this the Bush administration with Rumsfeld feeding anyone that will listen that Cuba and Venezuala are behind all of Bolivia's troubles which are of course more lies.
So folks the land purchase in Paraguay is to control the water/electricity supply and close proximity to Bolivia with its natural gas and oil reserves. And of course in the process a group of people are being exploited and oh yeah, one can escape prosecution because the US government has been cutting deals with Paraguay that all US military personnel are exempt from the International Criminal Court (ICC). Tell me someone that if push came to shove that a Bush wouldn't use this to keep themselves safe from prosecution? Most importantly of all - can you not see the greed all over the place?
I will get the current info as to what is going on now with this situation.
Hey ho,
Saddam execution said too graphic for TV
By: United Press International
Updated: 6 hrs ago
The heads of major U.S. news outlets are debating how much of Saddam Hussein's execution they will broadcast, the Hollywood Reporter said Friday.It is still not clear when Hussein will be hanged for the deaths of 148 Iraqis in 1982, but an Iraqi government official confirmed the execution will be videotaped. Hussein will most likely be executed before the beginning of a Muslim holiday on Sunday, the report said. It is also unknown if the footage will be released to U.S. news outlets such as CBS, NBC, CNN and Fox.
The footage of the execution is likely to be graphic and inappropriate for younger viewers. CBS, ABC, and NBC plan to break into their regular programming to announce that the execution has taken place, but will most likely only show a few still photographs, the Reporter said.
None of the American news networks has ever broadcast footage of an execution, although such videos are circulated via the internet, the Reporter said.
I just read the article about Rep. Rahm Emanuel in GQ and thought it was pretty good. I know it is early but I like John EDwards for President. On Saddam he he is just about done. I am not a strong suppoter of the death penalty but I guess the Iraqis do not have such problems. I will not be on again until 2007 so happy new year everyone.
I didn't see Laura in that photo with Bush only Condi. Did they mix up the wives again?
Posted by SandyH on December 29, 2006 at 06:48 PM
I've got to get a "sistah girl" badge ready.
You got it goin' on.
On a serious note though, as I have said before, when Condi sat through the Senate committee and the full Senate questioning her on her appointment as Sec of State - she did not endure being dragged around Capital Hill and having her "integrity impuned" for loyalty to a presidential administration.
Something stronger than loyalty was workin' that mojo!
J Excellent analysis, young lady!!
That's very much the way it looks to me, too. Chavez in Venezuela wants to shut down the rightists' media. He definitely sees this all coming. They are after his tail, and have attempted to "eliminate" him before.
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man is a great book detailing those operations in a "fictional" account.
You did a great job, J. Thank you.
fade
Thanks again for the links. They were VERY interesting and I'm not the foreign policy buff, but it was insightful to see what the Bush administration and the US government have been doing.
I posted an explanation a couple of posts up. The US government has played a huge part in the South American fiasco and I'll comment on that in a day or two
J,
many moons ago, i had plans to take my son to Guatemala for a year, to work with the indigenous people as they established a pottery. (i am a potter, too)
my contact was a diplomat who gave me plenty of inside information. he did not have anything good to say about the CIA. they were not "covert" at all, since everyone knew who they were. that is one group of actors that gets entirely too much of our money and not nearly enough scrutiny.
oh, we didn't go because of the violence...the annual income (this was in the 90's) was less than $400...lots of diseases that come from malnutrition.
You all remember how hard they tried to get this execution going right before the Election, to try and take the sails out of the Dems ! It failed then, and it shall fail to do anything now, than just be another signal of the failure of Bush's Folly!
12/29/06 "Information Clearing House" -- -- The execution of Saddam Hussein is another grim chapter in the catalogue of war crimes perpetrated against the Iraqi people. It is a gratuitous act of barbarism devoid of justice.
What right does Bush have to kill Saddam? What right does the author of Abu Ghraib, Falluja, Haditha and countless other atrocities have to pass judgment on the former leader of a nation which posed no threat to the United States?
Let’s be clear, the lowliest, most ruthless Iraqi has more right to rule Iraq than the most upright American. That’s what’s meant by “self determination”. When we honor “self rule” we avoid bloody interventions like the invasion of Iraq.
Bush believes that killing Saddam will achieve the “closure” which has eluded him through 4 years of occupation. But he is mistaken. Saddam’s death will only eliminate any opportunity for a political solution. Reconciliation will be impossible and Saddam will die as a hero.
Hi Pammie
Al Jazeera has his letter to the people posted. He says that it's better for him to die a martyr than to rot in a jail cell.
for those that think Iraqis feel they are better off with Hussein gone!!!
About 90 percent of Iraqis feel the situation in the country was better before the U.S.-led invasion than it is today, according to a new ICRSS poll.
http://www.upi.com/InternationalIntelligence/view.php?StoryID=20061229-101021-1168r
and with this, I shall be loggin off.
(Domingo, wasn't the troll begging for you and others to leave him alone so he would not have to come in here anymore???? looks like the hatred inside just keeps bubbling too much to stay away. so much for the pretend girlfriend!)
night !
J Excellent analysis, young lady!!
Posted by fade2bluz on December 29, 2006 at 08:46 PM
Hey thanks for the compliment, but I'm a card carrrying member of the 5-0 club.
After reading those articles, it was just amazing how the South American situation paralleled the Middle East debacle that the Bush administration created. Even down to Rumsfeld saying the same thing about the Tri-border region of Latin America. Bush and Rumsfeld jumped up and down like clowns declaring that the area was a hot bed for terrorists and terrorists activities though there was absolutely no evidence to that effect.
Rumsfeld went so far as to declare as he did with Iraq that even though there was no eveidence to be seen that didn't mean it wasn't there. Sound familiar? And because other Latin American countries could see right through the Bush administration hype and called the US on it, they proceeded to make the whistleblowers appear as BooBoo the Fool - Chavez. Hugo Chavez knew and could see right through the Bush folks with their trying to take Bolivia's natural gas while toppling their government.
As we can see the Bush administration has smeared Chavez as the Spawn of Satan. And while I'm at it, wonder if anyone saw a familiar name there in the companies that purchased those natural gas deposits in 1995. Enron ring a bell? Need to ring it louder? Yes folks Enron.
Would love to track back that purchase. What happened? Did Enron sell? They paid virtually nothing for those deposits. They were bought in 1995 and from that time to the collapse of the company, much money was made and what happened to it. The sale of that natural gas and oil should have kept that company proped up, to a point anyway.
Any forensic accounts posting with us?
As time goes by fade I'm finding out that there are many of us that carry membership in that club on this site. When I first began posting I thought I was the oldest thing posting. Thought everyone was the ages of my kids in their 20's.
I may carry AARP credintials, BUT I try to keep my mind youthful.
When the Bush Administration wanted to invade Iraq and depose Saddam Hussein, we were told that Hussein had a relationship with Osama Bin Laden and that he was complicit in the 9/11 attacks. Soon after we invaded Iraq, people who were interviewed on the news said, "Sure, we have to go after Iraq! They attacked us on 9/11." I remember a group of US soldiers, who had just arrived in Iraq at the start of the war, were ordered to spell out with their bodies on a hillside the words, "Remember 9/11." Other soldiers who were interviewed were repeating what they had been told, that they were in Iraq to "kick some Iraqi butt" for what they did to the US on 9/11. Just recently, Cheney was going from Republican fundraiser to Republican fundraiser, hauling in the cash while spouting that we have evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11, or "we have reason to believe that" -- a favorite line of his that supposedly leaves wiggle room for a retraction, but still misleads, nevertheless.
So, with all this "evidence" that they said that they had about Hussein being involved in 9/11 and with Bin Laden, evidence that they used to justify invading another country, why is our Justice Department not jumping up and down to extradite Hussein to the United States for this crime against the people in our country? Hussein was in US custody in Iraq all this time. It seems like we would have had the option to keep him there until we were ready to have him stand trial here. Surely, the Bush Administration's evidence that they knew would make Americans follow emotionally into battle would have to have been strong enough to stand up in a court of law. The families of the 9/11 victims surely deserve the opportunity to question the person who is accused of being involved in the terrorist attacks that took their loved ones. Also, the accused person should be there, and alive, to respond to their questions.
The families of the 9/11 victims deserve to have this cleared up. The families of soldiers who have died in Iraq, and the soldiers who have been wounded, deserve to know for sure if Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11, especially when many were told this was so. How can they find out if they were told the truth, or if they were lied to if Hussein is executed before being given the chance to question him?
The only reason some people want him executed immediately is so information, that some people do not want known, will go to the grave with him. When the American people are told that Saddam Hussein was connected to attacks upon our country, and many in our country believed that going to war is the right thing to do based upon what the Bush Administration had told us, our government has a responsibility to make sure that our attorneys have the opportunity to question him and have him respond. On behalf of the victims in our country, on behalf of all Americans who have been affected by 9/11 and the subsequent war in Iraq, our government has a moral obligation to see that Saddam Hussein is kept alive to stand trial here in the United States. And if Bush's and Cheney's evidence has been fabricated and construed to mislead the American people to go to war, we absolutely need to know that, too.
From too many Americans and American politicians I see arrogance when confronting the problem of terrorism. These individuals are unwilling to think of their enemy as formidable and so are unable to consider a more realistic approach to a resolution. For the most part these are socialites just saying what they believe to be most popular so as to avoid conflict, much the way the British did in 1776 when Americans showed them the error of their ways.
Some people attempt to explain away Middle Eastern terrorism as a millennia old problem, but this is too simplistic. In reality, similar conflicts have forever been a part of the American, European, and Asian landscapes.
Current Middle Eastern tension is what we are concerned with. Those tensions did not begin until 1917 when a repopulation of the British Mandate of Palestine by European Jews was promoted by British Lords and wealthy Arabs who wished to profit from migration. There was also a growing problem in Europe involving Jews that may have influenced this decision. At the time Jews in Israel made up only 15% of the population. Another 83% were Arab.
By 1946, when the United Nations moved in to take over for the departing British forces, European Jews in the Mandate of Palestine had grown substantially and it had become apparent to those watching the escalation of violence that something must be done to prevent further violence. The modern state of Israel was born of the need to seperate these people in an attempt to prevent that escalation. It did not work.
With Israel we work too closely and hold in too high a regard. The truth is that Israel has as much to do with the continuation of violence in that region as does any Arab nation or organization. We most hold both equally accountable if we are ever to eleviate this tension.
The invasion of Iraq is another tension responsible for increased extremist views in the Middle East. This invasion was openly apposed by many nations around the world, even by some of our more prominent allies, but nowhere so openly as in the Middle East. A foreign relations nightmare and recruitment vehicle of extremism is what Iraq has become.
When dealing with the Middle East it is best to deal with Arabs. For several years it has become wrongly accepted within America that Arabs in general are the problem. The race of those responsible for the attacks of September 11, 2001 has sadly been blamed for all the ills of this world and so are encouraged to fight. This was and remains to be a serious misunderstanding of the situation.
We Americans have allied ourselves with Arabs since 1802, when it was decided that the Barbary Pirates must be dealt with. Although the Marine's Hymn speaks of this alliance, we too appear to have forgotten what good friends they can be. It is time to educate the public. Middle Eastern extremism will not be dealt with until we ourselves settle for solutions that are less extreme.
They said that Saddam was involved in supporting and harboring terrorists and that was certainly true.
Posted by BlueMoon on December 29, 2006 at 10:17 PM
This was not true either. Saddam had paid the families of Palestinians suicide bombers after their houses had been destroyed by Israel. The money was set aside to rebuild their homes.
If the terrorist knows that Saddam is going to take care of his family that makes his task easier and encourages terrorism to go on.
In addition Saddam harbored terrorist including Al Zarqawi, Abu Abbas, Abu Nidal et al.
Posted by BlueMoon on December 29, 2006 at 10:29 PM
Payments were made well after the fact and during the cease-fire.
In addition, several known terrorists were on Iraqi watch lists to be aprehended if seen. Saddam had cut himself off from those individuals by his decision to involve himself with the West so freely and to allow western culture to become such a part of Iraqi society.
You repeat lies my friend, which is how and why Congress was convinced to grant Bush authority to start this war in the first place.
Good evening, all.
The word homeland is Nazi speak now? I wonder if they know that in the Department of Homeland Security.
Posted by BlueMoon on December 29, 2006 at 09:16 PM
Those at Homeland Security didn't even consider New Orleans part of the homeland.
Al-Zarqawi operated mainly inside Afghanistan where he had helped establish a military training camp near Herat. He was Jordanian.
Later, Zarqawi supposedly traveled to Iraq to have his wounded leg treated at a hospital run by Uday Hussein. In the summer of 2002, Zarqawi was reported to have settled in northern Iraq, where he joined the Islamist Ansar al-Islam group that fought against the Kurdish-nationalist forces in the region.[16] He reportedly became a leader in the group, although his leadership role has not been established.
This is rumor and has never been substantiated. What is known for certain is that he was to be found inside Iraq at a time when a U.S. led assault appeared imminent. In 2001, he was arrested in Jordan but released. He was tried in absentia and sentenced to death for plotting the attack on the Radisson SAS Hotel.
Abu Abbas was a Palestinian and fought for Palestine. He was never of serious concern to the United States. From 1989 until 2003 he led the PLF in Iraq, which supported peace negotiations between Palestine and Israel.
Abu Nidal died of between one and four gunshot wounds in Baghdad in August 2002, believed by Palestinian sources to have been killed on the orders of Saddam Hussein, [8] but said by the Iraqi government to have committed suicide.
Other sources disagree about the cause of death. Palestinian sources told journalists that Abu Nidal had in fact died of multiple gunshot wounds. Marie Colvin and Sonya Murad, writing in The Sunday Times, say that he was assassinated by a hit squad of 30 men from Office 8, the Iraqi Mukhabarat assassination unit. [17] Jane's reported that Iraqi intelligence had been following him for several months and had found classified documents in his home about a U.S. attack on Iraq. When they arrived to raid his house on August 14 (not August 16, according to Jane's), fighting broke out between Abu Nidal's men and Iraqi intelligence. In the midst of this, Abu Nidal rushed into his bedroom and was killed, though Jane's writes it remains unclear whether he killed himself or was killed by someone else. Jane's sources insist that his body bore several gunshot wounds.Jane's suggests that Saddam Hussein may have ordered him arrested and killed because he regarded Abu Nidal as a mercenary who would have acted against him in the event of an American invasion, if the money had been right. [44]
Iraq's chief of intelligence, Taher Jalil Habbush, held a press conference on August 21, 2002, at which he handed out photographs of Abu Nidal's bloodied body, along with a medical report purportedly showing he had died after a single bullet had entered his mouth and exited his skull. Habbush said that Iraq's internal security force had arrived at Abu Nidal's house to arrest him on suspicion of conspiring with the Kuwaiti and Saudi governments to bring down Saddam Hussein. Saying he needed a change of clothes, Abu Nidal went into his bedroom and shot himself in the mouth, Habbush said. He died eight hours later in intensive care. [43] He is known to have been suffering from leukemia.
ABC just aired a rousing documentary glorifying Saddam and all his cruelty. It read unsurprisingly like a propaganda piece with all the usual White House catch phrases like "spider hole." They punctuated the piece with a Laura Bush "Be a Mentor" PSA. Nice touch.
Unfortunately, we were attacked by Bin Lauden. He's not an Iraqi, and he can still do grave damage to this country.
Bush has not invaded the country that harbors him and his terrorists. Nor has he run down the dictator that runs that country (and possesses WMD) or has he seen fit to put him on trial and arranged an execution.
Sorry, but I'm not impressed with Saddam's execution today, as I know his people would have eventually gotten to him themselves without our occupation. He had been quite weakened by the sanctions and would have been easy pickings once Iran began helping the Shiites in earnest.
Bush is always asking the American people for their patience with his sputtering and dying foreign policy. But he didn't exhibit any patience with the UN inspectors who were proving his WMD theory wrong back in the spring of 2002.
So what was the rush to get Saddam out of the way now? Do the neocons really think that this civil war was about Saddam? They really can't get anything right. He's been old news since the looting began.
hi marine,
you're arguing with sally/steve the troll
blech!
marine, john goodfoe was asking about you last night. now he's not around, so in the future--you guys need to check in on a regular basis so we don't worry about you, okay?
gregg is the monitor for excused absence slips, so you can avoid referrals to the principals office
nice to see you--feeling all right?
i think blue moon is that old asshole sally.
saddam is dead and the middle east is all fixed now and the dummie avenged his daddy and we are coming around that corner....
Does anyone really feel better now that Saddam Hussein has been executed? I certainly don't. I feel sick to my stomach. What did this really prove?
Not a damned thing.
I can only pray my nephew gets out of Iraq alive.
hi fade. we are in synch tonite.
so the totalitarian gasser of the kurds and defeater of the iranians and invader of kuwait and friend of rummy's has been replaced by a friend of the holocaust denying president of iran and hezbollah!!!!
goddam this nation building is working out just like we planned!
Posted by SandyH on December 29, 2006 at 11:29 PM
they're stirrin' it up, Sandy. Saddam will be a martyr and there will be a bloody Sunni surge
which will be met with ours...and did you notice the two navy casualties in England? we're ramping up and will be nuking Iran if our leaders don't stop this evil regime...
they want more blood
I listed some of the terrorists Saddam was harboring
Saddam hadn't been harboring any terrorists. He was too afraid that those radical Islamists would insight his own people to rebel. And since 2002 he was either in hiding or in jail.
What about the two terrorists that were being harbored in the UAE and latter showed up on those planes that crashed into buildings and that airfield on 9/11?
yup saddam and his step brother were hung tonight. soon to be out in video one way or another. the world is safe now and we never have to worry again. the long nightmare of the war on the islamofacists is over...or something...
this is another good one
nice little reminder that the world judges him very harshly. they don't watch the F-word news or breathe the corporate propaganda.
well, i had enough wine to sleep well. hope you all do, too.
to better days
remember when we knew how old the grand canyon was? well we don't anymore, the ministry of truthieness is recalibrating:
"According to Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER) in a report released this week [PDF], Grand Canyon National Park is not permitted to give an official estimate of the geologic age of its principal feature, due to pressure from Bush administration appointees.
Furthermore, a book approved by the Service claiming the Grand Canyon was created by Noah's flood ,rather than by geologic forces, is on sale in the park for more than three years, even though a review was promised to Congress and the press. A Freedom of Information request [PDF] reveals that no review has ever been requested, nor taken place.
"In order to avoid offending religious fundamentalists, our National Park Service is under orders to suspend its belief in geology," stated PEER Executive Director Jeff Ruch. "It is disconcerting that the official position of a national park as to the geologic age of the Grand Canyon is 'no comment.'" PEER urged [PDF] the new Director of the National Park Service (NPS), Mary Bomar, to end the stalling tactics, remove the book from sale at the park and allow park interpretive rangers to honestly answer questions from the public about the geologic age of the Grand Canyon."
....i love it when the bushies put the mystery back into reality....see you all in the morning.
We can now celebrate an enormous milestone, world annual traffic fatalities are estimated to exceed one million! Global warming is accelerating. The true cost of oil (including costs incurred such as protecting middle east oil fields) exceeds $10 a gallon. Except for Jimmy Carter Democrats have been neglecting serious transportation and energy issues that drain trillions from our economy! Where is the outcry and outrage!
A culture of corruption and ultimately a culture of death! Undue industry influence within the U.S. Transportation Department is outlined within an article by the NY Times. http://www.trucksafety.org/docs/rules.pdf
gregg!! Just the person I hoped would come on tonight. What about this 25 mile piece of ice shelf that's broken off in the Canadian Artic?
Is this the same thing I commented about this morning? Hope I'm not gettin' senile.
But anyway this is scary! Just like the movie.
Marine,
These grandstanding White House publicity stunts really aren't all that impressive when you have al Jezzera broadcasting scores of deaths in graphic detail everyday.
fade,
I'm not sure they want more blood. We went past overkill two years ago.
They don't even seem to be the least bit disturbed by the mutilated bodies being picked up each morning in the streets and alleys of Iraq. Or the scores of civilians blown up by car bombs regularly. Or the growing numbers of American soliders being wounded and killed.
Blood doesn't seem to be the motivation. They seem to be running away from their mistakes more than anything. As long as they can grandstand and talk about "the success that hasn't happened yet" (nor never will happen if history can be relied upon), it keeps them rolling along.
We need to set up a few baracades/road blocks to stop their momentum in Congress. Once the machine is stopped and searched, it will be far harder to brazen it out.
One thing's for sure, the next GOP standard bearer will not have any vitory flag to wave. Nobody wins in an occupation much less a civil war. It must be disheartening to those like Tweety who were so sure these idiots had a mission in mind when they ramped up this charade.
hi sally, fuck you.
j, this piece from reuters seems to give a pretty good summary of what is known so far about the big ice cube:
By Jeffrey Jones
CALGARY, Alberta (Reuters) - A chunk of ice bigger than the area of Manhattan broke from an ice shelf in Canada's far north and could wreak havoc if it starts to float westward toward oil-drilling regions and shipping lanes next summer, a researcher said on Friday.
Global warming could be one cause of the break of the Ayles Ice Shelf at Ellesmere Island, which occurred in the summer of 2005 but was only detected recently by satellite photos, said Luke Copland, assistant professor at the University of Ottawa's geography department.
It was the largest such break in nearly three decades, casting an ice floe with an area of 66 square km (25 square miles) adrift in the Arctic Ocean, said Copland, who specializes in the study of glaciers and ice masses. Manhattan has an area of 61 square km (24 square miles).
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The mass is now 50 square km (19 square miles) in size.
"The Arctic is all frozen up for the winter and it's stuck in the sea ice about 50 km (30 miles) off the coast," he said.
"The risk is that next summer, as that sea ice melts, this large ice island can then move itself around off the coast and one potential path for it is to make its way westward toward the Beaufort Sea, and the Beaufort Sea is where there is lots of oil and gas exploration, oil rigs and shipping."
The break went undetected when it happened due primarily to the remoteness of the northern coast of Ellesmere island, which is only about 800 km (500 miles) from the North Pole.
Posted by J on December 29, 2006 at 11:58 PM
J,
It's almost like a scientific version of Revelations. What did Gore quote the scientists as saying would be the worst thing that could happen? The Artic Sea breaking up and melting. And so it is coming to to pass.
Saddam may not have been the real threat after all? Who could have predicted? Who could have known?
They have known all along and have just acted dumb ...their only God given talent.
weird stuff. are they really eating that much more bbq down south than we are eating quiches sprouts up north??
Heart Disease Still Big Problem in South
By TOM BREEN
Associated Press Writer
December 29, 2006, 8:18 PM EST
CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- West Virginia is making slight yet discernible progress in reducing deaths from heart disease, but it remains one of the states hit hardest by the nation's No. 1 killer. Mississippi tops the list. The American Heart Association released its annual look at heart disease in America on Friday, ahead of a January publication of the findings in the medical journal Circulation.
Cardiovascular disease accounted for more than one-third of all deaths in 2004, the most recent year for which data is available, but there are signs of improvement.
Mississippi had the highest fatality rate from cardiovascular disease and coronary heart disease, at nearly 406 deaths per 100,000 people.
Oklahoma was next, with nearly 401 deaths per 100,000; Alabama, with 378 deaths; Tennessee, with nearly 374 deaths per 100,000; and West Virginia, with 373.
There were twice as many angioplasties recorded in Southern states as compared to other regions, and the report found similar ratios of bypass surgery, open-heart surgeries and pacemaker implants.
Wayne Rosamond, an epidemiologist at the University of North Carolina and the chairman of the American Heart Association Statistics Committee, said there are studies now directed at finding out exactly why heart disease has such striking regional differences.
"What drives those shifts is not really well understood," he said...
ya know this troll seems even stupider than sally. maybe this is son of sally?
anyhow who gives a shit. really time for bed. see you in the morning.
Do you know how much a 25 mile chunk of ice will raise ocean levels by?
Ans. Absolutely nothing. It was already ice floating in the ocean.
Posted by BlueMoon on December 30, 2006 at 12:04 AM
So you did that ice cube experiment in fourth grade, did you? How would you like to perform a waterboarding experiment on yourself to see if it works?
Better yet. Go find us a "Good New" story that has been a direct result from the leadership skills of the current administration. Just one. Give us one thing they have accomplished that hasn't screwed somebody else along the way.
Or better yet, return to Bermuda or wherever you when for a week or so.
Why am I responding to this hopeless case? I'm going to go read John's book that came in the mail today. Good night, all.
hussein hanged
BREAKING NEWS
Witness: Hussein was a broken man
Saddam Hussein was hanged Saturday for crimes committed in a brutal crackdown during his reign, U.S. and Iraqi sources tell CNN. Iraq's national security adviser said: "He was a broken man... You could see fear in his face." President Bush called the execution "an important milestone" for Iraq.
Hey, back,
Sportsters, small world eh? Let us not continue doing stupid and wrong. I think for the latest military misadventures, the dead are 85% civilian, and if I remember, about 50% of those children. 650,000!
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Observer: Wrestling with democracy in Iran
By Gareth Smyth
Published: December 29 2006 02:00 | Last updated: December 29 2006 02:00
Some years after Ronald Reagan and Arnold Schwarzenegger blazed the trail from Hollywood to US politics, it is sportsmen who are getting the political bug in Iran, with three elected to Tehran city council in recent polls. Winners included a pair of wrestlers, Alireza Dabir and Rasoul Khadem. But Tehran's most popular sportsman, romping home on a reformist ticket, was Hadi Saei, a former national champion in taekwondo, the Korean martial art based on using the feet to beat opponents into submission.
Sport is so popular in Iran that the government was mightily relieved on December 17 when Fifa, the world football ruling body, lifted a ban on Iran's taking part in international matches that it had imposed for state interference in the sport.
On his trips round the country, Mahmoud Ahmadi-Nejad, Iran's president, has promised new sports centres as often as he promises new hospitals or low-interest loans for marriage. While it might be too soon to expect sports people to rival the number of clerics and former Revolutionary Guards in parliament, local government seems fertile ground.
"I suspect we could one day elect a whole Tehran city council made up of sports people if enough of them stood, especially as we have such a young population," said a sports journalist with a leading Iranian news agency. "It could be very good for the city."
www.ft.com/cms/s/c7d75660-96e0-11db-8ba1-0000779e2340.html
And gone.
Riverbend compares figures on Iraqi deaths with Bush not faring so well, a father mourns his son in Iraq, and other horrible things we have done.
Yup, I'm late again as usual. just got online and refreshed the cnn page and saw where Hussein was a done deed. I feel safer already!! Hah, NOT!! ...and now we're on to bigger and better regime changes down in South America. How wonderful, Alice!
Well, I guess I'll go back to lurking, and snooping around.
bbl
Let's pretend the 600,000+ number is all wrong and that the minimum is the correct number: nearly 400,000. Is that better? Prior to the war, the Bush administration kept claiming that Saddam killed 300,000 Iraqis over 24 years. After this latest report published in The Lancet, 300,000 is looking quite modest and tame. Congratulations Bush et al.
Sunny,
This is beautiful realism. Thanks for the post/link to democratic underground!!
It's pretty much a sure thing that W and Rummy and Cheney were responsible for more deaths of innocent Iraqis than Saddam Hussein ever was. Going back to the Saint Gerry Ford days. So if Saddam should get hanged, what does that say for the bastards that stole the elections and perpetrated the PNAC agenda? Just saying. But I'd say they're traitors. How is it possible that everybody forgets these whackos tried to talk Clinton into this insane shit back in 1998?
Amd mow we're listening to the generals, but we're going to the exact opposite of what they say and send more troops because Barney will piss on the idiot's head if he doesn't? My godson, my brother's son, is involved in this. It's about time that W's sorry record of not showing for duty was made a clear point of. The stupid draft-dodging prick that made a political living off claiming an actual combatant who was heroic when circumstances called for it, and who never claimed heroism himself, was somehow not brave in the face of danger, well shit wienie in chief.
I don't know. Do you think Nixon broke the law and sent Kerry's boat into Laos. Nah, Nixon wouldn't doo that. Did any of you read the supposed Congressional approval of W's invasion? Well he was supposed to go back for approval.
On the terriss front. Pretty funny during the election when Kerry said it was a police matter, more or less. Kerry pretty much singlehandedly stymied international terrorism around 1985 with the BCCI investigation. Wasn't that stupid? Well no. But it was exceptionally embarrassing to the Raygun Administration. Their bank accounts coincided with those of both the Contras and the mullahs. Quelle horeurs.
Democrats backed up this stupid charge. Well that's what they've done in Spain. And it worked. In the US, we've incarcerated a guy with a 70 IQ that's supposed to be a master nuclear bomber. And the mastermind that was going to take down the Brooklyn Bridge. In broad daylight. With an acetylene torch.
And we caught those guys in Miami that wanted some combat boots.
Oh and those guys in London, the imminent threat. Well Brits said it wasn't imminent. They said it was essential not to expose it. Apparently Karl Rove knew better. 13 released immediately on no evidence whatsoever.
Look up BCCI.Raygun was one corrupt bastard or he was deep into Oldtimers. Cheney and Rummy were up to their necks. This miscreance created the Taliban and Al Quaeda. The astute work of John Kerry kept evil at bay for several years. The PNAFC put them back in play.
Posted by SandyH on December 30, 2006 at 12:20 AM
Hey Sandy. People that are actually real scientists see it's a fait accompli. I like to look at it as Johnny Cash Three feet and risin'. Somehow it seems to me that if you stilltry to deny the obvious truth you need to be beaten around the head and neck. Everybody does understand this is a fact? Right? Except maybe W, and he's such a goober he think's surge is a good idea and not a sure bet to get more young men and women killed.
I really think the little prick needs to be dressed up in a flight suit and dropped in the middle of Fallujah. Mission accomplished.
As far as what any single American has done about terrism the one thing any American has done to counter terrorism check here. And it had nothing to do with the labor busting and oh so Nazi Homeland Security ruse, nor anybody’s heckuva job. And it exposed those disgraceful Republican moles that made sure the Iranis kept the hostages long enough to embarrass President Carter. Take a bow Rummy. Deadeye! BCCI was the Reagan bank, and it was the Bin Laden bank. And John Kerry's great sin was that he shut it down. Because it was Ollie North's bank too. Quelle surprise. And so he had to endure the Dickwads that Never served casting aspersions on those who did, and nobody from the Democratic Party had his back.
Has anybody forgotten the asshole just never showed up? W didn't show for anything. And we know. Kerry actually wounded himself in anticipation of running for President, according to these assholes. Where was his bud John McCain? Where were his buds on the Democrat side? Well none of them did what he did. Unfortunately, he believed they'd count the votes. What a dumbass. He probably thought Democrats woud stand with him. What a dumbass. I guess he thought being true to a personal idea of honor might mean something. What a dumbass.
I was gonna let yesterdays ridicule of my election prediction slide by but then you had to pick it up again to day with PamB and Greggy boy again.
To Greggy boy, the election was not a blow out. The House shifted from a 15 seat Republican majority to a 15 seat Democrat majority and most of the Democrats who won Republican seats are as conservative or more so than the Republicans they replaced. And you, as ussual forget my prediction that Lieberman will win easily and become the most powerful Senator ever and that there is no way a black candidate for Senator is gonna win in a border state like Tennessee.
Posted by PamB on December 29, 2006 at 06:02 PM
Pretty lofty talk from an old Bimbo who has admitted voting for Nixon.
This invasion of Iraq is some spectacularly bogus wet dream of a bunch of cyber patriots that made up the Project for the New American Century. All of these people had other priotities when people whose priorities they denigrate actually served honorably in an illicit war they were more than happy to support. How is there still an American that supports this? Is this VietNam all over? Same assholes, but at least Nixon's dead. No Rumsfeld? Well there's the architect of Iran-Contra. Weasel. How this asshole skated through his confirmation is astounding. He was a member of the Baker commission. But you know, he knes Ollie North was a traitor. What it comes down to, there's the Constitution, and Bush , Cheney, they are traitors. This idea of the unitary executive is subborning the Constitution and promoting dictatorship or some sort of regency. The crown would sink ignominiously over his little pointed head. If they manage to get my brother's kid killed with this Douglas Perle New Centurion idiocy, there will be hell to pau.
Everytime someone comes in here and makes sense you automatically believe it is me. Although BlueMoon is a very sensible person, there is no solid evidence that the earth is warming at all.
But if it is warming and will warm that will be a good thing and it is not caused by SUV's but rather the temperature of the sun.
I had not heard of the 1500 year sun cycle before but am willing to accept it and look forward to the benefits of a warmer earth.
Posted by pudgyboy on December 30, 2006 at 03:39 AM
I encourage you to try for your GED. Government subsidized financing is available.
Riverbend compares figures on Iraqi deaths with Bush not faring so well, a father mourns his son in Iraq, and other horrible things we have done.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/866
Posted by sunny on December 30, 2006 at 01:17 AM
Riverbend is a Saddamist who saw her world crumble tonight. Cause they Strung Saddam up Tonight!
Geez, Msnbc won't even show the noose going around Saddams neck. Fox does but they don't show the footage of the bastard hanging.
Some people need hangin - Saddam certainly did.
Where is the enthusiam here?
It reminds me of the day our guys captured Saddam and everyone here was having pissy fits and down in the dumps. PamB even said "I don't see what's the big deal with capturing Saddam cause he never did anything to me" She got quoted in the Wall Street Journal and on Britt Hume for that dopey remark.
Saddam is dead! Let us see some enthusiasm here. They hung the bastard!
Well, I'll be around all week thanks to Greggy boy and PamB.
He killed 3 million people, he killed children in front of their parents, he ran people through meat grinders - head first if he was in a merciful mood - otherwise feet first.
But of course in this sewer George Bush is the war criminal.
Thank God no one of you all's ilk will ever be elected President - Democrats will be elected but none that have adapted Greggy Boy or Sandy or PamB's or Domingo's point o view.
I'll be back later today for your reading enjoyment.
Oh, one more thing. What is the Democrat position going to be on brain dead Senators voting in the Senate? Now that the most of those Senators have declared that Terry Schiavo should not be allowed to simply live, what will their position be on Senator Johnson being allowed to vote on issues that effect the entire nation?
Without Senator Johnson's vote, the Republicans will not agree to any new Senate structure and the current committee assignments will remain in place. Look it up.
Frosty....Did you finish your gig at Laugh Stop tonoight and decide to drop in here to try out some new material for our amusement? Have they started paying you yet or are you still working over there for free because you can't get a paying gig anywhere?
Frosty...where did you go...come on out of your hole and talk to me little mouse...
Frosty...What is the matter?....Did I hurt your little baby feelings?.....Last chance,..I'm not going to talk to you tomorrow when the adults come back on line...
This is more proof on how uninformed our government has become under GWB"s reign!
For Immediate Release: December 28, 2006
Contact: Carol Goldberg (202) 265-7337
HOW OLD IS THE GRAND CANYON? PARK SERVICE WON’T SAY — Orders to Cater to Creationists Makes National Park Agnostic on Geology
Washington, DC — Grand Canyon National Park is not permitted to give an official estimate of the geologic age of its principal feature, due to pressure from Bush administration appointees. Despite promising a prompt review of its approval for a book claiming the Grand Canyon was created by Noah's flood rather than by geologic forces, more than three years later no review has ever been done and the book remains on sale at the park, according to documents released today by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER).
“In order to avoid offending religious fundamentalists, our National Park Service is under orders to suspend its belief in geology,” stated PEER Executive Director Jeff Ruch. “It is disconcerting that the official position of a national park as to the geologic age of the Grand Canyon is ‘no comment.’”
There is no rational excuse for this to happen I say go ahead and tell the truth to the fundies they won't believe it anyway. Denying reality doesn't make reality different it just shows the ignorance of the "believers".
I find it very disturbing that Bush actually wants to eliminate science from government agencies in favor of extreme religious views. I don't care what people believe or who they sleep with as long as nobody gets hurt and it puts a smile on their face and they leave me the hell alone. But denying proven fact over silly religious superstitution goes over the line.
peace
wldj......These people in the W/H are nuts....They cause others to hate all religions just because they are so wacked out...
Good morning to all
See Frosty is back with his pals romping all over the blog.
goodfoe, Es posted that explanation of the Bush land purchase last night - 8:33 pm
wldj, holding down your end of FL?
J....I had read all the links that Fade posted prior to last nite...read all the material posted last nite...thought that you had posted more on it last nite, very good, was that you or Essie?....I could go back and look it up, but I'm lazy this am...Grandkids woke me up at 1:30 and I've been up since then reading, etc..Back atcha...
J, yep up early as usual it's going to be a nice day and I'm planning on going fishing with the girlfriend. I saw that article and my blood pressure increased immediately not the best start to my day but oh well. 106 Americans dead in Iraq this month and Bush delays "deciding" for whatever perverted reason, he's probably too busy watching the video of Hussein's hanging, which is sick. I need to go fishing to put the frustrations with Bush out of my head for a few hours.
Putin next, Bush vows. “I looked into his eyes and I knew he was a mass murderer. Then, me and Gonzales."
J....The post I'm talking about at 8:33 was your post....really good work....I still think this has a lot to do with cornering the supply of fresh water and selling it to the sw United States at some time in the future when our water supply here in the south is gone. The Bush's may not be good at running our gov., but in terms of economics, they are globalists and do plan into the future. They have done a good job of making money off the war in Iraq, I guess the rape of South America is next...
J can you believe that a judge says voters are not allowed to view the source codes on the voting machines? This judge considers corporate secrets more important than voting transparancy, I wager he's a republican. Part of my county is in the district and I find this outrageous even though I'm not surprised. Having private for profit companies supplying voting machines should be stopped.
i see sally is back in full disgusting and inaccurate form...using several identities and misinterpeting reality. i know of no reason to assume a 50-49 democratic advantage in the senate (until senator johnson recovers) is anything but a majority. oh i forgot sally's prediction that leiberman will caucas with the republicans...hahaha...another one bites the dust. it will be fun to have sally join us for the slow bbq'ing of vice presidunce cheney which should be good for a few laughs:
"Cheney faces troubled new year
Published: December 29 2006 18:39 | Last updated: December 29 2006 18:39
Dick Cheney has forged a reputation as the most powerful but also least visible vice-president in recent history. In the next few weeks, however, he will be forced to fight some of his battles in the open – in the courtroom and on Capitol Hill.
The first test will come in the criminal trial of his former chief of staff, Lewis “Scooter” Libby, charged with lying to a grand jury during an investigation into how a CIA agent’s name was leaked. The trial, due to begin in two weeks, is likely to set an ignominious precedent when Mr Cheney becomes the first vice-president to testify in a trial.
Mr Cheney’s legal team are also steeling themselves for the launch of legislative investigations by the new Democrat-controlled Congress.
In 2004 the vice-president felt confident enough to dismiss questions from Patrick Leahy, then a powerless Democrat, with a lewd invitation for him to do something sexually impossible. Now, he faces political revenge: Mr Leahy, the incoming chairman of the judiciary committee, has said he will issue subpoenas to secure documents that show whether the Bush administration authorised torture as part of its “war on terror”.
He also vowed to look into no-bid Iraq contracts, including those awarded to Halliburton, a company the vice-president once ran. He said: “At the risk of incurring another of Vice-President Cheney’s special season’s greetings, I ask: ‘Where did all the money go?’ ”
Mr Cheney enters this spotlight a weakened but not necessarily chastened figure, with fewer allies. Disaffected Republicans blame him as much as President George W. Bush for their minority status. His image for gravitas has been tarnished by public mockery. A dead deer recently found outside his residence revived mocking stories of when he went hunting and accidentally shot his friend in the face."
oh yeah ain't we gonna have some fun, welcome back sally!
Sad as it is to say Iraq's system where voters dip a finger into ink to insure only one vote is more accurate than our votes. How pathetic!
excuse my manners. good morning to all. its finally getting cold up here in the hudson valley. we may even get some snow! mixed with rain but hey it all helps santa get the sleigh back to the north pole while there still is a north pole.
boy are the right wing nuts gonna be screaming as the months go by and more and more americans and citizens around the world turn their attention to global warming and environmental degradation in general...they have fought to obscure these realities for so long and so hard led by bush and cheney....and now there will be crow on their plates everyday for the rest of their corrupt, rotten tenure in the white house. well i suggest they hold their noses and not chew too much, just swallow that nasty old crow down fast because tomorrow that plate will be full again!
Good morning Gregg,...how was NJ?....wldj....that is the Sarasota area you are talking about, right? Where you going fishing?
CRAWFORD, Texas (AP) -- President Bush and first lady Laura Bush were moved to an armored vehicle on their ranch Friday when a tornado warning was issued in central Texas, the White House said.
The vehicle was driven to a tornado shelter on the ranch at 1:30 p.m. CT, and the president, the first lady and their two Scottish terriers, Barney and Miss Beazley, sat inside until the weather cleared, deputy White House press secretary Scott Stanzel said.
Sources say the President kept asking when Judy Garland was going to join them in the armored vehicle and if Toto would try to mount Miss Beazley the way he and Barney always do.
goodfoe, joisey was nice. it was like 45 degrees or so and the sky was clear so it didn't really seem like late december. we were going to make a run into manhattan to see the exhibit at the whitney but i figured driving out of there on the friday of new years weekend could be a mistake...so i shot up the palasaides ahead of the mobs.
Gregg...you are in fine form this am...what was Laura and the ss boys going to do..watch???
Posted by goodfoe on December 30, 2006 at 07:42 AM
Yes it's Sarasota wher 18% of voters supposedly didn't vote in the most important election on the ballot. Charlotte County is below Sarasota and a part is in that district. My district WAS Foley's but you know what happened with that, however the race was much closer than it should have been which also raises questions that will never be answered with the present "leadership".
I'm going fishing on Gaspirilla Island where Bush Sr. is currently vacationing, Junior is too busy clearing brush and watching snuff videos to join his family which I'm very grateful for.
not sure goodfoe but the story continues:
BERLIN (Reuters) - A thirsty German sold his 6-year-old step-daughter's pet beagle to the owner of a bar to pay for beer, the Bild newspaper reported Friday.
Hearing this news President Bush stuffed Miss Beazley and Barney under his arms and broke out of the anti-tornado vehicle while Missy Laura's back was turned and started running down the road toward the only crack house in Crawford.
wldj...that is nice country down there. Good luck with the fishing. Don't get too near the Bush's.....things happen to people near them like airplane crashes and motorcyle cops getting killed...
John Edwards was great yesterday in Portsmouth, NH! We were expecting maybe 300-400 people at the most and the place was packed, people lined up in droves. People were turned away and when John heard he came outside to talk to people. There is A LOT of interest and early for this next election. People are sick of what is happening in this country and they are sick of money running things. There will be some surprises in NH.
See some of the photos here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jsneirson/sets/
An article that all America should read:
The U.S. is 53rd in freedom of the press. Sad, sad, sad.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1027/dailyUpdate.html
An article that all America should read:
The U.S. is 53rd in freedom of the press. Sad, sad, sad.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1027/dailyUpdate.html
Gregg...you are cracking me up with your posts...don't stop now...you are on a roll!!!!
mayme, thanks for sharing about edwards. i am alot more interested in what the new congress is gonna do next week than in who runs in 08. 08 is important but the new congress is now and it's collective feet need to be held in a very progressive fire...
Gregg....Amen!!......It looks like they may be trying to "crawfish" a little on us. I'm sending off letters and emails for what ever good that will do.......
the wing nuts are going to get wackier and wackier.
they are trying to argue that the plug should be pulled on senator johnson because it was pulled on mrs. schiavo. of course they want to overlook the small difference that mrs. schiavo was clinically brain dead as determined by numerous neurologists and by the autopsy performed after her death...whereas senator johnson clearly has brain function, is responsive to verbal commands and even in his current state of is functioning way way beyond anything our presidunce is capable of....
goodfoe, yep crawfishin is a good way to put it. sidle is another. so while the new circus act is who will get the 08 nod i am gonna save my energy for pushing the folks we broke our asses to elect to actually do something about iraq, health care, stem cell research, global warming, and so on.
as for edwards i have to say his performance in the debate with cheney left alot to be desired...not as bad as leiberman who actually darned the cretin's socks during the his big 00 debate...but pretty pathetic for a big time trial lawyer. no i am all about holding pelosi and reid to task now that we got them in power....
time to poochafie...bbl.
Dear Bluemoon,
I would take what the Hudson Institute says with a few grains of salt. Or maybe a very stiff drink!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_Institute
The Hudson Institute's experts try to work toward a broad view of society and change, looking for the interplay between culture, demography, technology, markets, and political leadership.
In the 1970s, Hudson’s scholars advocated a turn away from the "no-growth" policies of the Club of Rome; in the early 1990s, it advised the newly-liberated Baltic nations on becoming market economies; it assisted in drafting the Wisconsin welfare reform law that became the model for national welfare reform in the mid-1990s.
The Institute has taken positions critical of environmentalism. Dennis Avery, as Director of the Hudson's Center for Global Food Issues, has written in opposition to those who oppose the use of pesticides in food farming, and the adoption instead of organic agricultural methods.
The Hudson Institute is developing programs to propose the political and economic transformation of Muslim nations.
Funding
The Hudson Institute is supported by donations from companies and individuals. Corporate contributors include Monsanto, DuPont, Dow-Elanco, Sandoz, Ciba-Geigy, ConAgra, Cargill, and Procter & Gamble[1].
Fundraising efforts use testimonials from what the Institute calls its "family of generous supporters and friends", among them, Henry Kissinger, who provides a testimonial:
"Hudson Institute is today one of America's foremost policy research centers, in the forefront of study and debate on important domestic and international policy issues, known and respected around the globe, a leader in innovative thinking and creative solutions to the challenges of the present and the future."[2]
I would not call Henry Kissinger a renouned scientist!
Madrid bombing 'breaks ETA cease-fire'
Saturday's explosion, which came shortly after the execution of Saddam Hussein in Iraq, raised fears of a retaliatory strike in a country that has suffered attacks in response to its support for international military operations.http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/12/30/madrid.blast/index.html
Gregg.... I have read an article that a number of Senators have been allowed to keep thier seats even though they were disabled....Infact, it may have been you who posted it...
Cyn_NY...Good morning...how are you doing today?...thx for the link...
new congress is now and it's collective feet need to be held in a very progressive fire...
Posted by gregg on December 30, 2006 at 08:25 AM
Morning gregg
I joined in a Progressive group here in CT which plans on monitoring on local levels, and state level how politicians are doing and not allowing Lieberman to get away with what he did before without making sure the entire state sees it!
Already in our Hartford paper, we have people's letters printed saying how stupid the voters in CT were and asking if they watching what they voted in with Lieberman!The old hawk is out there drumming up more troops to be sent over there , while his kid is sitting in Israel, another chicken hawk in training!
I hope everyone will get involved in some organized group of people interested in pursuing the Progressive platform, and in a watch of what politicians of both parties do from this point on.
Good morning, Goodfoe. I am doing ok, but very creeped out about the hanging. I don't believe in violence on any level.
goodfoe, i did post such stuff. turns out a senator can only be replaced if he or she writes a letter of resignation or a death certificate with their name on it is issued. senators have held their seat for years without ever showing up in the senate. so all this wishful thinking by the right wing is just that, wishful thinking.
Amazing how the media are all leaving out the fact that Reagan,Poppy Bush and Rumsfeld all had such a big part in Hussein's reign of Terror!! The fact that the WMD's and spores to grow anthrax and other poisons, plus all that cash all from the good old Republicans in the USA!!!!
"WASHINGTON -- The execution of Saddam Hussein closes an agonizing chapter in history that began with President Bush's vow to achieve a "regime change" with the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003.
Yet the hanging of the longtime Iraqi strongman does not alter the fundamental problems that Bush faces: Reclaiming public support in the U.S. for a war that a majority of Americans now oppose, and charting a convincing course for the victory that Bush vows to achieve before withdrawing U.S. forces.
The White House steadfastly averted any statements of direct satisfaction with either the conviction of or death sentence handed to Hussein. Instead, the president and his advisers portrayed them as signals of achievement by the new judiciary in Iraq.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-assess-with-saddam,1,5492880.story?coll=chi-news-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true
Cyn....You need to try to move on from that. I'm close to being a pacafist myself...but it is thier country and thier law.....there is no way the Shia were going to lock him up for life and run the risk of him ever coming to power again....
when you get to the Military saying this was a mistake, well Bush better not think the execution of Hussein will turn people's mind around about this illegal Invasion & occupation !
Poll for Military Papers Finds Troops' Support for War Plunging
NEW YORK It's often written or said in the media that, despite public opposition to the Iraq war here at home, military personnel strongly back President Bush's handling of the conflict. But a poll for the Military Times newspapers, released Friday, shows that more troops disapprove of the president’s handling of the war than approve of it.
It came on the day that at least four more Americans died in the war, pushing the monthly total to 107, the high point for the year -- and the total figure to 2,997, near the milestone of 3,000.
Barely one in three service members approve of the way the president is handling the war, according to the new poll for the four papers (Army Times, Navy Times, Air Force Times and Marine Times). In another startling finding, only 41% now feel it was the right idea to go to war in Iraq in the first place.
And the number who feel success there is likely has shrunk from 83% in 2004 to about 50% today. A surprising 13% say there should be no U.S. troops in Iraq at all.
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003526245
Gregg.. @ 9:05...thx for clearing that up...I was almost worried...did the dog enjoy walking you?
Goodfoe, we put Saddam on trial.
Saddam may have killed thousands of Iraqis. He may have gassed the Kurds. He may have looked the other way when his 2 sons raped and murdered Iraqis for shits and giggles. He may have brutalized anyone that looked at him funny. And he may very well have deserved to die for his actions.
But none of that is really the point here. He didn't have anything to do with 9/11. He didn't have WMDs that anyone found over many years. He wasn't harboring terrorists. And he wasn't in cahoots with Osama Bin Laden.
So what business does the US have in invading his country, putting him on trial in a sham trial and executing him?
hey if i read this right it sounds like the democratic house can do something about the voting issues that revolve around harris's seat in florida...goody, goody....this is what i am talking about!
Disputed Fla. election to spill into U.S. House
Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:31pm ET
By Richard Cowan
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A disputed election result in a U.S. House of Representatives race in Florida will be one of the first items raised when the Democratic-controlled House convenes next week, injecting partisan politics into the start of the 110th Congress.
Rep. Rush Holt, a New Jersey Democrat who has pushed for better safeguards on electronic voting machines, said on Friday he would make a procedural point to establish the swearing-in of Florida Republican Vern Buchanan does not prejudice ongoing challenges by his Democratic opponent, Christine Jennings.
"This is a district, Sarasota area in Florida, where there's no way of knowing whether the result presented by Florida's secretary of state is valid. In fact, I think there is significant evidence that it is not," Holt told reporters...
...Close elections are not uncommon and fights over results sometimes poison the atmosphere between Republicans and Democrats in Congress.
A glaring example was the 1984 race between Indiana Democrat Frank McCloskey and Republican Richard McIntyre. McCloskey was thought to have won narrowly, but a recount gave McIntyre an edge and Indiana's Republican secretary of state certified him the winner. Democrats in control of the House then ordered a recount by the U.S. General Accounting Office and McCloskey won by four votes.
Republicans were bitter about the result for years.
****well shit let's get them bitter again....when we cook them we can get that bitterness out by throwing some sugar into the pot******
fight for every inch of every issue forever
and while i am at it how about this bit of bio on congressman holt....
Rep. Holt earned his B.A. in Physics from Carleton College in Minnesota and completed his Master’s and Ph.D. at NYU. He has held positions as a teacher, Congressional Science Fellow, and arms control expert at the U.S. State Department where he monitored the nuclear programs of countries such as Iraq, Iran, North Korea, and the former Soviet Union. From 1989 until he launched his 1998 congressional campaign, Holt was Assistant Director of the Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory, the largest research facility of Princeton University and the largest center for research in alternative energy in New Jersey. He has conducted extensive research on alternative energy and has his own patent for a solar energy device.
maybe our motto from now on should be..."this time let's try brains"
goodfoe, the pooch loves to take me for a walk and this time she put her shoulder into something on the forest floor which made me cringe...but thankful it didn't smell so it wasn't poop....otherwise she would have had her lab ass in the pond for a good cold bath....
Cyn...9:20...everything you say is true...I don't have any answers for you. The only thing that I am suggesting to you is that you might want to move on past it. If you choose not to do so, thats your choice.....there are a lot of things about this administration that I will never forget and thats my choice. I was hoping you could get past the hanging because its done and it might be better not to dwell on that part of the situation...Peace...
Goodfoe, thanks for your kindness. I am not dwelling on this, but I do think it's important to digest every single rotten thing this gov't has it's hands in. It is my belief that not paying attention is how we got where we are now in the first place. I thank you for your caring ways. You are a wonderful person. I truly mean that.
Cyn.....I agree that ...we do need to know how we got to the sorry state that we now find ourselves in. I was concerned about you as a person and the effect it might be having on you....I'm glad that is behind us...Thank you for your kind words....they mean a lot....
Hello everyone. I hope that you are well today Goodfoe.
I've been busy lately or I'd have checked in sooner. I'm about to be busy again or I'd stay and talk. Have a nice day, I'll probably drop in later.
Gregg....my big, black lab mix just took me for a walk too. But what he really wants is to take me for a ride in the car so that he can spot other dogs....do you remember when "the Mick" and Roger still played?....I miss those guys......
Marine...It's good to hear from you again...We were concerned...you need to get you absence slips signed of by Gregg per Fade.....
Al Zarqawi, Abu Abbas, Abu Nidal. These three men supposedly prove that Saddam Hussein had harbored terrorists. The problem is that only one, Al Zarqawi, was actually of threat to U.S. interests and at that a minor threat.
Al Zarqawi was responsible for building a militant training camp in Afghanistan. He was arrested in Jordan in 2001 and tried in absentia for the bombing of a hotel and sentenced to death. He was to be found inside Iraq at a time when a U.S. led attack on that nation appeared imminent.
Abu Abbas was a Palestinian and fought for Palestine. He was never of serious concern to the United States. From 1989 until 2003 he led the PLF in Iraq, which supported peace negotiations between Palestine and Israel. Israel allowed him passage several times during the cease-fire because he worked to such ends.
Abu Nidal died of between one and four gunshot wounds in Baghdad in August 2002, believed by Palestinian sources to have been killed on the orders of Saddam Hussein, but said by the Iraqi government to have committed suicide. Abu Nidal was a mercenary, not a terrorist, and was likely killed because it was feared that he might side with whoever paid the most money. He was said to have been in possession of classified documents about a U.S. attack on Iraq.
goodfoe, when i was 14 my neighbor who worked on the stock exchange got tickets to see a yankee game. it was 1961 and maris would hit his 61 homers while mantle got 54 i think. we were in the first elevated deck on the first base line in the front row. it was great and one of the m and m boys hit one into the right field seats....night game and i can still feel the gestalt of it all if i close my eyes....
Gregg...me too,..me too..I have some real good memories of my days (and nights) in NY
Posted by Cyn_NY on December 30, 2006 at 09:20 AM
So what business does the US have in invading his country, putting him on trial in a sham trial and executing him?
Saddam Hussein was a brutal dictator as he had proven to be many, many times in the past. This was an example of the U.S.A. being the world's policeman again. If sanctions would have been lifted there is no doubt in my mind that Hussein would have attempted to carry out his numerous threats against the U.S.A.. However, having the potential to do something and doing it are two different things. If we start executing everyone that has the potential to do something bad then that will be a sure cure to world overpopulation. Like y'all, I did not appreciate being misled by this president. Hussein had to go sooner or later but definitely not by the methods used.
Esme, you are a class act!
Posted by ManInTheMac on December 29, 2006 at 08:55 PM
What did I do?
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Good late morning, everyone. Beautiful day here in SE OH. I can't recall ever having such wonderful weather in late December before. I am longing for some snow though.
I'm still trying to digest the hanging of SH. Mixed emotions and disturbed thoughts.
Too much news to read and post. I wish you all a great day.
Please, enjoy it.
Morning,
Hussein was rushed to the gallows so that the democratic congress wouldn't have a witness and to distract from the 3000 US dead milestone.
I didn't quite get why Iraq didn't declare war on the USA and get the US congress and people involved when they had the chance.
Freedom must ring, I'm pretty set about it. But, I always say, keep an open mind.
******
Modern neuroscience is eroding the idea of free will
IN THE late 1990s a previously blameless American began collecting child pornography and propositioning children. On the day before he was due to be sentenced to prison for his crimes, he had his brain scanned. He had a tumour. When it had been removed, his paedophilic tendencies went away. When it started growing back, they returned. When the regrowth was removed, they vanished again. Who then was the child abuser?
His case dramatically illustrates the challenge that modern neuroscience is beginning to pose to the idea of free will. The instinct of the reasonable observer is that organic changes of this sort somehow absolve the sufferer of the responsibility that would accrue to a child abuser whose paedophilia was congenital. But why? The chances are that the latter tendency is just as traceable to brain mechanics as the former; it is merely that no one has yet looked. Scientists have looked at anger and violence, though, and discovered genetic variations, expressed as concentrations of a particular messenger molecule in the brain, that are both congenital and predisposing to a violent temper. Where is free will in this case?
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At the moment, the criminal law—in the West, at least—is based on the idea that the criminal exercised a choice: no choice, no criminal. The British government, though, is seeking to change the law in order to lock up people with personality disorders that are thought to make them likely to commit crimes, before any crime is committed.
The coming battle
Such disorders are serious pathologies. But the National DNA Database being built up by the British government (which includes material from many innocent people), would already allow the identification of those with milder predispositions to anger and violence. How soon before those people are subject to special surveillance? And if the state chose to carry out such surveillance, recognising that the people in question may pose particular risks merely because of their biology, it could hardly then argue that they were wholly responsible for any crime that they did go on to commit.
www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=8453850
I hope everyone will get involved in some organized group of people interested in pursuing the Progressive platform, and in a watch of what politicians of both parties do from this point on.
Posted by PamB on December 30, 2006 at 08:56 AM
What I would like to see is more public input on the legislation being considered and up for vote.
Like a town hall meeting or forum where each bill is discussed by the representative with his constituents before the vote.
No more of this cram-packed last minute stuff, and no more voting on legislation that they haven't even read or considered.
good on you all
today is the day we break 3,000, isn't it? the reporting is somewhat delayed, but i think this is the day.
tomN--that witness won't testify now, will he? back a few years ago, i read a number of books about Saddam, and in the early days, before he came to power--he was trained by the CIA, who found him to be their darling because he entertained such right-wing ideology.
this is the cycle we must stop. it sickens me to think about what we created, like what we'll be seeing in "Charlie Wilson's War"
Blowback--unintended consequences--has been a living hell.
My deepest sympathy for the families of the three thousand Americans and the half-million or so Iraqis that have been victimized by this insanity.
what a bloody mess
December becomes the deadliest month of 2006 for U.S. troops
December became the deadliest month for U.S. troops in Iraq in two years after the U.S. military reported six more combat deaths, leaving the tally just two short of the emotive 3,000 mark.
But we were complicit in the regime of Hussein, and just as bad!
A Dictator Created Then Destroyed by America
By Robert Fisk
The Independent UK
"But history will record that the Arabs and other Muslims and, indeed, many millions in the West, will ask another question this weekend, a question that will not be posed in other Western newspapers because it is not the narrative laid down for us by our presidents and prime ministers - what about the other guilty men?
No, Tony Blair is not Saddam. We don't gas our enemies. George W Bush is not Saddam. He didn't invade Iran or Kuwait. He only invaded Iraq. But hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians are dead - and thousands of Western troops are dead - because Messrs Bush and Blair and the Spanish Prime Minister and the Italian Prime Minister and the Australian Prime Minister went to war in 2003 on a potage of lies and mendacity and, given the weapons we used, with great brutality.
In the aftermath of the international crimes against humanity of 2001 we have tortured, we have murdered, we have brutalised and killed the innocent - we have even added our shame at Abu Ghraib to Saddam's shame at Abu Ghraib - and yet we are supposed to forget these terrible crimes as we applaud the swinging corpse of the dictator we created.
from South America--more grist for the mill
Columbian Official Denounces Murder Plot
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Reid: U.S. Seeks Good Ties With Ecuador
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http://www.democrats.org/a/2006/12/weekend_open_th_14.php?comments=1#
Insert Linkhttp://www.salon.com/wire/ap/archive.html?wire=D8MAUU9O0.html
By JEANNETH VALDIVIESO Associated Press Writer
December 29,2006 | QUITO, Ecuador -- Incoming Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Friday that the United States wants to strengthen relations with Ecuador's leftist President-elect Rafael Correa and Reid and a bipartisan delegation of five other senators met for almost an hour with Correa, who takes office on Jan. 15, and expressed a desire to build better bilateral relations.Asked about Ecuador's involvement in the Andean Trade Promotion and Drug Eradication Act, a package of trade benefits that Washington offers in exchange for counter-drug cooperation, Reid said President Bush supports an extension.
Congress has renewed the agreement under which products from Colombia, Peru, Bolivia and Ecuador can enter the North American market until June 2007.
"From my perspective, Ecuador has fulfilled all of the requirements for the extension," Reid said. "The people of Ecuador should feel comfortable that it will be extended."
Correa has said he will not sign a free trade agreement with the United States but will seek extended trade preferences under the anti-drug agreement. Trade talks between the U.S. and Ecuador derailed in May, after Ecuador canceled the operating contract of California-based Occidental Petroleum Corp.
Good morning, all.
I find the way we are observing the death of three different men so interesting. I'm can't wait to celebrate along with others this afternoon the death of James Brwn who added so much fun and music to my life.
President Ford seems almost a tragic figure somehow. I'm not really sure why. Maybe it was the association with Nixon. I never really had strong feeling about him one way or another. He did teach us lesson about the power of forgiveness. I liked his wife and kids. I feel badly for them.
Saddam was doomed from the day he decided power was more important than his soul. The oppression, murders, and torture gave him a notoriaty that he never deserved.
Certainly the suffering that Bush's invasion brought to the Iraqi people is not warranted. And because of it Bush and Saddam will be eternally linked forever. I wonder if anybody in the Bush family but Poppy understands this?
You have two men who made the same decision in life and who will have to atone for it before their God someday. The similarities in their personalities and choices are unmistakable and errie.
You'd think Brown or Ford deaths would be sad events. But instead they give us hope and pause to think about what is important in life. Conversely, Saddam and his twin image in the current White House chose to mock the meaning of life.
There is always a final accounting. Bush will continue to run away from his crimes against humanity shielded by a sophisicated and corrupt political propoganda machine: but after 2008, the price for the massive suffering he's caused will begin in earnest. He can't escape it.
I echo fade's sentiments above. My deepest sympathy for the families of the three thousand American service men and women who have died in Iraq and to the half millon or so Iraqis that have been victimized by Bush's insanity.
May they have known the wonder of music in their lives and experienced the healing power of forgiveness in their lives.
Sandy,
i don't like religion in politics. forgiveness is a spiritual tenant that has NO PLACE in government.
Ford's pardon of Nixon has had horrifying results. Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld are just two striking examples of that act. It didn't heal this nation. We are divided along the same lines, only they have had an opportunity to invest millions of dollars and build from within the power structure so we can continue to watch our country be destroyed from within.
Ford was no hero.
Good morning fade,
What happened on the Paraguayan posts?
Been thinking about the huge base and airfield and I'm wondering if this isn't the new big detention camp. Tax dollars at work, we have a right to know.
Hello democratic and un congress, investigate and report.
Fade, SandyH..There is nothing I can say to add to what the two of you have just posted,...I'm going into my corner for awhile....
PamB,
Good post of Fisk piece. I also like from it:
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But that is not how the Arab world will see him. At first, those who suffered from Saddam's cruelty will welcome his execution. Hundreds wanted to pull the hangman's lever. So will many other Kurds and Shia outside Iraq welcome his end. But they - and millions of other Muslims - will remember how he was informed of his death sentence at the dawn of the Eid al-Adha feast, which recalls the would-be sacrifice by Abraham, of his son, a commemoration which even the ghastly Saddam cynically used to celebrate by releasing prisoners from his jails. "Handed over to the Iraqi authorities," he may have been before his death. But his execution will go down - correctly - as an American affair and time will add its false but lasting gloss to all this - that the West destroyed an Arab leader who no longer obeyed his orders from Washington, that, for all his wrongdoing (and this will be the terrible get-out for Arab historians, this shaving away of his crimes) Saddam died a "martyr" to the will of the new "Crusaders".
Word of the day:
ignoramus \ig-nuh-RAY-mus\, noun:
An ignorant person; a dunce.
Any one have any ideas of how this word could be applied?
Does it fit Sally*? Frosty? Blue Moon?
President Nicanor Duarte has been allowing US troops on Paraguayan soil since mid-2005. US Special Forces are performing 13 military exercises, to expire late this year, including "educational courses", "domestic peacekeeping operations" and counter-terrorism training, this one part of
i insert here, once again, wtf?
Operation Commando Force 6, scheduled to go on until next month.The whole package is part of a controversial military agreement between Paraguay and the United States endorsed by the Paraguayan Congress more than a year ago. The US Special Forces are guaranteed total immunity and diplomatic status. They are free to import and export, they don't pay any taxes, and what they trade is not subjected to any inspections. Contraband kingpins at the Triple Border would kill for a deal like that.
Posted by fade2bluz on December 30, 2006 at 12:37 PM
fade,
I think religion in politics is also fatal when it is allowed to infringe of policy decisions. But forgiveness in our personal lives is necessary. Ford was apparently deeply attached to Nixon on a social, personal level. If he felt he had to do what he had to do for that reason, I can relate.
It's impossible for a person with any morals to divide their political decisions from their personal feelings. Carter had to make some choices that lost him the White House but saved the lives of all those at our Iraian embassy and perhaps stopped a war. At the time I was angry with him for appearing so weak, but today I see the wisdom.
It's policy decisions that relate to religious tenets that disturb me. They have no place in a democracy based on religious freedom.
I've come to realize that forgiving those that you feel transgressed against you is just important as forgiving yourself for doing the same against others. Jesus wasn't monkeying around when He said that. It heals the soul and that is all we take with us from this life.
I respect your viewpoint, however. Ford's political/personal decision did unleash the neocons and set them on a course that has been a disaster for this country. But as Martin Luther King said, "We shall overcome."
Posted by salutetheDems on December 30, 2006 at 12:53 PM
fits exactly right and maninthemac, too
he's been nicer than usual, since his tongue was in his favorite blonde's ear for most of the night. keeps him a little distracted
Fade 12:56...Every thing that you say is true, but what are they trading? Guns and drugs? ok I'll buy that: what I don't have a handle on is how Bush and Cheney are being paid off...Any ideas?
There are an estimated 13 million Catholics in China, of which about 5 million follow the officially tolerated Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association, while the remainder support an underground church loyal to Rome.
The Chinese government does not recognise the Vatican's power to appoint bishops, causing tensions between the two sides.
But talks have been taking place in recent months between envoys from both sides.
China has said it would like better relations with the Vatican, but wants the Holy See to first cut its diplomatic links with rival Taiwan.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4982530.stm
In China the government controls religious practices. In Iran the religious leaders control the functions on government. In the USA, because of their superior moral and ethical standards, corporations control most everything.
i see sally is back in full disgusting and inaccurate form...using several identities and misinterpeting reality. i know of no reason to assume a 50-49 democratic advantage in the senate (until senator johnson recovers) is anything but a majority. oh i forgot sally's prediction that leiberman will caucas with the republicans...hahaha...another one bites the dust. it will be fun to have sally join us for the slow bbq'ing of vice presidunce cheney which should be good for a few laughs:
Posted by gregg on December 30, 2006 at 07:30 AM
Senator Johnson isn't gonna recover.
The Republicans will do the same thing the Democrats did when the Senate was close before Jim Jeffords defected. They fillibustered the Senate structure vote until the Republicans agreed that there would be a new structure vote if the balance of power shifted. Until a new Senate structure is approved the current committee chairman and majority leader will remain in place.
Sandy,
i'm the judge, and well, i know the parents of this rapist and they're wonderful people. so, hell, let's give this little rapist from a good family another chance.
wrong--same logic.
justice and forgiveness belong on two different pages
I'm not talking about personal, only public
Oh yea, underground christians, being suppressed by the unholy alliance that brings our good christians the stuff under the christmas tree- Great Wallmart of China.
Posted by goodfoe on December 30, 2006 at 01:06 PM
empire, goodfoe. there are ex-pats, mercenaries (private contractors) and a Special Operations command
they will create what they can later destroy--like they did in Iraq.
who profits from this situation in Iraq, and how?
same thing
Great Wallmart of China.
Posted by TomN on December 30, 2006 at 01:16 PM
good one!
later, everyone...enjoy the day!
whereas senator johnson clearly has brain function, is responsive to verbal commands and even in his current state of is functioning way way beyond anything our presidunce is capable of....
Posted by gregg on December 30, 2006 at 08:35 AM
Yeah, I heard he can wiggle his toes now.
Frosty...We have the Senate but we don't need it. All we need is the House. Pelosi is smarter and tougher than Bush and Cheney combined. When your "daddy" and
"shotgun" resign in disgrace and flee for their lives, Pelosi will be President until the next election in '08. I hope it is nice and snug and warm down in that little hole of yours, you're going to be there for a long time....
I joined in a Progressive group here in CT which plans on monitoring on local levels, and state level how politicians are doing and not allowing Lieberman to get away with what he did before without making sure the entire state sees it!
Already in our Hartford paper, we have people's letters printed saying how stupid the voters in CT were and asking if they watching what they voted in with Lieberman!The old hawk is out there drumming up more troops to be sent over there , while his kid is sitting in Israel, another chicken hawk in training!
I hope everyone will get involved in some organized group of people interested in pursuing the Progressive platform, and in a watch of what politicians of both parties do from this point on.
Posted by PamB on December 30, 2006 at 08:56 AM
Do you call your group "The Sore Losers Club"?
Frosty...We have the Senate but we don't need it. All we need is the House. Pelosi is smarter and tougher than Bush and Cheney combined. When your "daddy" and
"shotgun" resign in disgrace and flee for their lives, Pelosi will be President until the next election in '08. I hope it is nice and snug and warm down in that little hole of yours, you're going to be there for a long time....
Posted by goodfoe on December 30, 2006 at 01:41 PM
What color is the sky in your world? We have a blue sky and one moon. How many moons do you see in your world?
sally, nice sentiment on senator johnson. i am glad you present the real republican outlook which is for this poor guy to die...of course as a mensa genuis would know without a death certificate or letter of resignation the seat stays democratic. wake me up when your prediction that leiberman will caucus with the republicans comes true....without that the dems will rule and your nutball court appointments are doa...hahahahaha...sally you are gonna eat that whoopin you took on 11/7 ever day you visit here asshole.
and hey kids let's not forget:
"The Republicans will hold a 4 seat advantage in both the House and the Senate.
That prediction may change again but one thing is certain - it will not be a blowout year for either side."
Posted by FrostyPumpkins on November 2, 2006 at 03:21 AM
ok it's time to ignore the troll if we can. he is such a waste of time and his arguments are even more inane than they were before the election that ended his team's reign of bullshit. so be warned anymore interaction with the troll and it costs you your ice cream ration.
I find it odd that the Rove propaganda machine didn't see the irony. They have been wrong a lot lately, but to be so careless about something so big that relates to the country's perception of this failed occupation and his top political client's image.
What were they thinking to go forward with this execution while a former president is lying in state? It only makes the grief of those who have lost loved ones that more acute. And it really was a cruel thing to do to both Muslims and Christins during a holy holiday period.
Military families weigh Saddam executionBy ASHLEY M. HEHER, Associated Press Writer
Sat Dec 30, 9:19 AM ETCHICAGO - Stephanie Dostie says she thinks it's ironic that former Iraqi dictator
Saddam Hussein was executed on the one-year anniversary of her husband's death. "I think it was a very generous death for him," said Dostie, whose husband, Sgt. 1st Class Shawn Christopher Dostie, was killed in Iraq in a blast from an improvised explosive device on Dec. 30, 2005. "He got his last prayer. He got his last meal."As word of Saddam's execution spread across the globe, soldiers and family members still grieving over the loss of relatives said they found little comfort in the death of the man the military once called High Value Target No. 1.
"Does it mean the mission is accomplished? Does it mean our soldiers can leave Iraq? Does it mean no more soldiers have to die?" said Jane Bright of Los Angeles, whose son, Army Sgt. Evan Ashcraft, was killed in Iraq on July 24, 2003.
"I don't know what it accomplishes," she said. "It has nothing to do with sympathy toward Saddam Hussein, I just don't understand where's the value in what we've done...
None of it makes any sense.
It wasn't a blowout moron, 15 seat Republican advantage to 15 seat Dem advantage is less the historical average.
Lieberman is the key vote in the Senate regardless of who he decides to caucus with. The Senate will take whatever direction Joe says it will. Lieberman voted for most of Bush's judges.
Of course, I told you at the time how dopey it was to challenge an entrenched Senator and how if the Senate ends up close Lieberman will control the place.
What happened to all those hurricanes we were supposed to get? It was supposed to be worse than last year on account of global warming. We didn't get any hurricanes on land - none - zilch - zero.
wrong--same logic.
justice and forgiveness belong on two different pages
I'm not talking about personal, only public
Posted by fade2bluz on December 30, 2006 at 01:13 PM
I know you are, fade. God didn't create us as clones. He needed to accomplish His work in different ways with different resources. So here we are, you and I, approaching the problem in different ways. I'm glad our paths crossed, because it's given me a new perspective to work from.
I know you are sick to death of the hypocrisy and the way they keep on getting away with mass murder. We will both take the feelings we have and work to make it better. You can't let it be; I know that. Rock on, gf.
Let’s just listen to the music and let it make us feel better.
Every thing that you say is true, but what are they trading? Guns and drugs? ok I'll buy that: what I don't have a handle on is how Bush (DRUGS) and Cheney (GUNS) are being paid off...Any ideas?
Posted by goodfoe on December 30, 2006 at 01:06 PM
You answered your own question :) See my inserts and highlights above...
one of the great things about the november elections was the defeat of that sack of shit pombo out in california....he was trying to rewrite the endangered species act...which he was not bright enough to accomplish in his years in office. he was whooped nicely by congressman elect mcnerney, a phd in mathmatics and expert in wind power generaion!! boy is that gonna be a tough one for the "smash the baby seal" arm of the nutball party to swallow...hahahaha...today he gave the democratic response to the presidunce's little chat on the radio....man this is gonna be some real fun!
Gregg....I was going to lay out a trail of cheeze crumbs for the little mouse to follow to a clue as to why we really don't need the Senate, but he wouldn't have figured it out anyway and I don't want to lose my ice cream, so I'll ignore him...
How you gonna scare anyone about global warming when all you got is chunks of ice floating around?
Wow, as unhappy and disgruntled as you all are one would think they hung Al Gore tonight.
Posted by BlueMoon on December 29, 2006 at 11:57 PM
Good one and exactly right! Good things for America are bad things for you all.
Posted by ***Frosty*** on December 30, 2006 at 02:02 PM
I was right in the path of one this summer...in the middle of the Midwest. The storms are now morphing into something new on the land and aren't necessarily coming from the sea. If that doesn't scare you a bit, you're a bigger fool than you appear.
I'm being distracted from a great wake. later.
goodfoe, you really don't want to lose your ice cream tonite. we are expecting a delivery from starbucks of their Caramel Cappuccino Swirl and i hear it is delightful. and of course we do have the senate and senator schumer from the great state of new yawk gate keeps what judicial nominees even get to be considered and he has unequivocally stated that " there will be no more right wing judge's getting voted on, period..." so groove on....
Posted by SandyH on December 30, 2006 at 02:12 PM
Oh no! We are going to have summer storms on land now? That has never happened before! You are right that is scarey!
sandyh, your ice cream ration is now going to dpd. you were warned.
and senator schumer from the great state of new yawk gate keeps what judicial nominees even get to be considered and he has unequivocally stated that " there will be no more right wing judge's getting voted on, period..." so groove on....
Posted by gregg on December 30, 2006 at 02:15 PM
That is if Johnson can do more than wiggle his toes and Lieberman approves.
Now that Saddam has been executed for war crimes, I wonder who's next.
Lieberman might say "I don't like what is going on in the Judiciary committee - I think I will join the Republicans"
RBK....i did not see your post..went all the way back to "slacker asses"...still didn't see it...maybe I was going too fast...Stii does not ans. my question...I can see guns being shiped down there and being swaped for drugs. where are to drugs going? Back to the U.S.? And someone would have to handle the money,...and where does the money go? Into bank accounts in Paraguay? I guess Iwas not clear about my questions on this. I don't doubt that it's happening, the logistics and who is paying off who interest me
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Car bombs and a suicide bomber left at least 75 people dead and more than 100 wounded Saturday, the day former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein was executed for crimes committed during his rule.
At least 66 people were killed in car bomb attacks on markets in a Shiite area of Baghdad and the southern Shiite town of Kufa.
Residents have been shopping for the Eid al-Adha Muslim holiday, which started Saturday for Sunnis and will start Sunday for Shiites.
The first attack targeted a local market in the historic town of Kufa, killing at least 30 civilians and wounding 45 others, an Iraqi Interior Ministry official said. (Watch scenes from the bombing's aftermath )
The second struck a busy market in Baghdad's northwestern district of Hurriyah, killing at least 36 people and wounding another 77, an Interior Ministry official said.
Three car bombs went off nearly simultaneously in that attack, two on a side street near a shopping area, and a third nearby, he said.
In three additional incidents, a car bomb killed a person and wounded four others near an amusement park south of Baghdad; another killed two people in western Baghdad; and a suicide bomber killed at least six in Tal Afar.
Kufa is part of the key southern province of Najaf. U.S. troops handed security control of the area to Iraqi troops and police last week. The transfer is considered the most significant so far because of Najaf's religious importance.
U.S. troops have remained in the province but are not in charge of conducting active patrols and are, according to U.S. military spokesman Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, only to be involved in operations when called on by authorities.
Two years ago, the U.S. military and Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr's Mehdi Army militia fought in and around Najaf and Kufa.
Saturday's attacks followed the execution of former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, a Sunni. (Full story)
Some predicted the execution would exacerbate violence between Sunnis and Shiites in Iraq. Sunnis were a minority ethnic group that enjoyed protection and power during the Hussein regime. They battle, often violently with the majority Shiites, who were persecuted then and now dominate the Iraqi government.
In addition Saturday, the U.S. military announced the deaths of three more American soldiers. The casualties raised the number of American personnel killed in Iraq this month to 109, making December the deadliest month of 2006...
Bush's supporters have been praising his accomplishments so long that they, once again, failed to identify a growing extremist threat in the Middle East. It is clear now that a great sacrifice was made so that the United States might invade Iraq. We gave up considerable Arab assistance in the War on Terror, assistance that is absolutely crucial to our success.
The Pentagon and our Intelligence agencies tell us that Middle Eastern extremism is a far greater threat today than it was in 2001. Significant growth in their numbers has been directly contributed to our presence inside Iraq. This information is ignored at our peril so that Bush may hide just a little longer from his military blunders.
America is at stake here and its president can not come before the nation itself. Information was manipulated and lies were told to get us into Iraq. Given this fact we must put before political concern the needs of our country. Our country needs allies in the Middle East.
Three civil conflicts threaten in the Middle East. The United States has a hand in every one. In Palestine, the president has seen fit to encourage conflict between two groups of Palestinians, this after having refused to involve himself in the effort to resolve Arab/Israeli disagreement peacefully. In Lebanon, the president saw fit to ignore Israeli agression as they brought war upon an entire nation after two of their soldiers were taken hostage by a fringe element inside Lebanon. In Iraq, the president made about every mistake possible which has sent that nation into a state of constant chaos where it has remained since March 2003.
It is easy to encourage men to fight, that's all that has been done these past several years. It is more difficult to encourage a peaceful resolution. In order to encourage a peaceful resolution we must be allied with individuals who understand the culture and the language. They must take the lead role as we cannot hope to accomplish what they might given the delay due to translation. We are foreign to their world and so offend without even knowing that we offend, which is why wherever U.S. forces go, in the Middle East, conflict is sure to follow.
remember when we knew how old the grand canyon was? well we don't anymore, the ministry of truthieness is recalibrating:
"According to Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER) in a report released this week [PDF], Grand Canyon National Park is not permitted to give an official estimate of the geologic age of its principal feature, due to pressure from Bush administration appointees.
Furthermore, a book approved by the Service claiming the Grand Canyon was created by Noah's flood ,rather than by geologic forces, is on sale in the park for more than three years, even though a review was promised to Congress and the press. A Freedom of Information request [PDF] reveals that no review has ever been requested, nor taken place.
"In order to avoid offending religious fundamentalists, our National Park Service is under orders to suspend its belief in geology," stated PEER Executive Director Jeff Ruch. "It is disconcerting that the official position of a national park as to the geologic age of the Grand Canyon is 'no comment.'" PEER urged [PDF] the new Director of the National Park Service (NPS), Mary Bomar, to end the stalling tactics, remove the book from sale at the park and allow park interpretive rangers to honestly answer questions from the public about the geologic age of the Grand Canyon."
....i love it when the bushies put the mystery back into reality....see you all in the morning.
Posted by gregg on December 29, 2006 at 11:51 PM
gregg,
Sorry I missed this post last night. I've never seen the Grand Canyon except from an airplane. I was planning to go there for a vacation someday...I'll take along my rosary. I didn't know Noah had ventured there, too. You learn something new from the GOP everyday.
Posted by gregg on December 30, 2006 at 02:18 PM
Just don't cut back on my margarita ration. Thank you very much.
ya know this troll seems even stupider than sally. maybe this is son of sally? Posted by gregg on December 30, 2006 at 12:15 AM
You got that right gregg. This is one dumbass troll. I think he pulls the statements he posts here out of his butt.
When the threat was global cooling not warming a few years ago, one of the solutions was to cover the arctic ice with soot in order to melt it and cool the earth. Posted by BlueMoon
No moron! The whiteness of the arctic ice reflects sun light back into space keeping the globe cool. Losing the arctic ice caps will cause run-away global warming.
voting record of joe lieberman, last great hope of the dying right wing thousand year rant:
Environmental Issues
Date Bill Title Vote
12/21/2005 Removal of ANWR Provision from HR 2863 Y
11/03/2005 ANWR Amendment Y
09/13/2005 EPA's Clean Air Mercury Rule Y
10/30/2003 Healthy Forests Restoration Act of 2003 NV
04/06/2000 Arctic National Wildlife Refuge Drilling amendment N
02/10/2000 Nuclear Waste Policy Amendments Act N
09/17/1996 Federal Land Grazing Fee Amendment N
08/02/1996 Safe Drinking Water Act Amendments of 1995 Y
Science and Medical Research
Date Bill Title Vote
07/18/2006 Stem Cell Research Bill Y
Social Issues
Date Bill Title Vote
06/07/2006 Same Sex Marriage Resolution N
06/11/2002 Hate Crimes Bill Y
09/14/1999 Puerto Rican Nationals resolution Y
Labor
Date Bill Title Vote
06/21/2006 Minimum Wage Adjustment Amendment Y
Abortion Issues
Date Bill Title Vote
03/17/2005 Unintended Pregnancy Amendment Y
10/21/2003 Prohibit Partial-Birth Abortion bill N
10/21/2003 Prohibit Partial-Birth Abortion bill N
06/21/2002 Military Abortion Amendment Y
06/20/2000 Military Abortions Amendment N
02/02/2000 Violent Protestors Amendment Y
10/21/1999 Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 1999 N
10/21/1999 Roe v. Wade Amendment Y
Arts and Humanities
Date Bill Title Vote
08/05/1999 NEA Funding Y
goodfoe, i have a bucket of that sweet stuff on its way to your home right now. nice to see such a good turnout this afternoon. if sandy can control herself and admit that dinasours and billy graham walked the earth at the same time we may let her have some of that breyers vanilla that is on sale at 2 half gallons for five bucks but the starbucks is not on her menu today. tomorrow she could get back to the top shelf...but for now....not!
It is more likely, not less likely, that the U.S. will be struck by yet another terrorist attack. Extremists now have conflicts within which to engage themselves in Palestine and Iraq, with Lebanon not too far off. Another such area of training is quickly growing in Somalia and another is well under way in Iraq. That makes four likely terrorist training grounds when before there was only Afghanistan. Afghanistan makes five.
With five areas within the Middle East engaged in conflict, or on the verge of conflict, there comes the potential that we may see five times as many terrorists as existed in 2001. Terrorists themselves find motivation in this sort of conflict and may easily find reason to blame the United States for their troubles as President Bush has seen fit to meddle in a bit of everything. Worst of all, he would not keep Israel and Palestine working towards a peaceful resolution of their differences. Israel is, sadly, the key ingredient in many of these conflicts.
When the threat was global cooling not warming a few years ago, one of the solutions was to cover the arctic ice with soot in order to melt it and cool the earth. Posted by BlueMoon
No moron! The whiteness of the arctic ice reflects sun light back into space keeping the globe cool. Losing the arctic ice caps will cause run-away global warming.
Posted by Domingo on December 30, 2006 at 02:38 PM
Well dufus, that was the point. We were warned of global cooling, "The Coming Ice Age". They wanted to warm the earth by melting the North polar ice cap.
Don't talk to the troll, please. You'll only encourage it.
would someone out there this afternoon please disprove the theory of evolution....? come on please, anyone, please?
marine, point well taken. i am denying myself ice cream tonite though i reserve the right to lick the scooper after i have doled out everyone's elses rations.
bbl. nice crowd here this afternoon. bet the blog will get more busy at the democrats take control of both houses of congress and start asking some questions of the folks who have been running things these past six years.
Marine...Good to hear from you again yesterday...missed you for a few days, was concerned that you might be ill....
So one of the solutions to global cooling was to cover the arctic ice with soot in order to melt it and cool the earth? Shut-up ass-hat, you must be drunker than usual.
would someone out there this afternoon please prove the theory of evolution....? come on please, anyone, please?
Hey everybody, I know how to fix global cooling. We'll follow the wing-nut's advice and fix global cooling by making the globe cooler! Yeah! That should fix it. Fix it in right-wing moron world that is.
With this specific troll, talking or not talking is not the matter!! He lurks, and lurks, and lurks just waiting for someone to mention his idiocy, and then uses that for reason to re-enter to disrupt the dialogue on this blog. Remember, he is the one that joyfully posted to himself for over an hour last month for the sole purpose of disrupting our conversation. He will continue to do this until the DNC can offer an ignore feature for this blog.
Good afternoon everyone!!
bbl -- lurking!
So one of the solutions to global cooling was to cover the arctic ice with soot in order to melt it and cool the earth? Shut-up ass-hat, you must be drunker than usual.
Posted by Domingo on December 30, 2006 at 03:01 PM
On April 28, 1975, Newsweek ran a cover story on the coming Ice Age. It’s gloomy conclusion: We won’t act until it’s too late:
Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to allay its effects. They concede that some of the more spectacular solutions proposed, such as melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it with black soot or diverting arctic rivers, might create problems far greater than those they solve.
Domingo, do you feel really foolish everytime I prove you wrong?
Frosty,
Will you please prove creation theory? I thought so!! Oh, that's right creationist do not need to prove their theory because it's a matter of their faith, and if they are asked to prove their theory they immediately attack the faith of the ones asking for the proof. Hmmmm, that sounds like our current administration's views of patriotism!!
What do you know? Not much!!
Marine...I was thinking about going to the range the other day and thought about you. It would be nice if we could take our "nines" and go to the range together....Not likely in this lifetime....But if we did go, you would have to spot me about a 100 points on the k9 target. Bind in one eye and can't see very well out of the other one.......
Will you please prove creation theory? I thought so!! Oh, that's right creationist do not need to prove their theory because it's a matter of their faith,
Posted by davidual on December 30, 2006 at 03:16 PM
It takes a lot more faith to believe in evolution than it takes to believe in crationism.
We have had gaslights or electric lights for a thousand years now. Why are the toads still sitting a the bottom of the pole waiting for insects to fall down? Why haven't they evolved wings so they can fly up where the bugs are?
Good Afternoon, ALL!! Back from Wisconsin.
I see we are on that LIE about the so called "Global Cooling" warnings in the 1970's. I'm getting a little tired of linking the same thing over and over again only because some people refuse to read the FACTS.
(snip)
...The fact is there was a temporary cooling pattern from the 1940s and the 1970s. Some in the media (notably Newsweek) improperly extrapolated that data into a long term trend of “global cooling.” But there wasn’t a single scientific publication that predicted “global cooling.” ...
AND
Attacking Global Warming Science: Where There’s George Will, There’s a Way
do you feel really foolish everytime I prove you wrong?
The only place you "prove me wrong" is in frosty-the-moron world. In frosty-the-moron world you're a legend in your own mind. What color is the sky in your world? We have a blue sky and one moon. How many moons do you see in your world?
speaking of sore losers, not more ridiculous, erroneous predictions ! "This is what I say, and this is what it will be"! LMAO !
Anybody remember when ole Stevie pretended he was also posting under another regular's name, and he said that one day he would pop up and surprise and shock us all??? HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Save it Steve! Trying to sneak back in here like you were someone else! After declaring you only wish Domingo would leave you alone so you did not have to come in. NOW, it is gregg and my fault you are here! You are here for one reason, and that is your hatred!
(That was a short lived relationship with the young lady, wasn't it? What did you do, call her one of those Racist names you have used about the Indians???)
sorry, gregg, couldn't resist ! You split my ice cream up with someone else.
see ya later.
Why are the toads still sitting a the bottom of the pole waiting for insects to fall down? Why haven't they evolved wings so they can fly up where the bugs are?
Maybe because they eat crawling insects, moron. Ever hear of bats, moron?
Arnold S. wants very badly to be president, and has teams and money working on it. Appoint him VP when Cheney resigns? Would that be legal?
Steroid blowback:
******
Although broken legs are a common injury for snow skiers, the femur fracture suffered by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger during his Idaho ski vacation was unusual, experts say.
The injury, which occurred while the governor was standing still on a ski hill, has fueled speculation that the Austrian Oak's limbs may be brittle because of his admitted past use of muscle-building steroid drugs.
The governor's surgeon dismissed the theory and maintained that Schwarzenegger's broken leg bone is otherwise strong.
"Any suggestion that Gov. Schwarzenegger's injury was sustained as a result of anabolic steroid use is wrong and has no basis in fact," said orthopedic surgeon Kevin Ehrhart, in a prepared statement. "His bone was completely healthy and rock solid."
Still, doctors said broken femurs are relatively rare, even among skiers.
"It's uncommon," said Dr. Noah Finkel, an orthopedic surgeon in Huntington, N.Y., avid skier and sports medicine specialist. "The most common cause for a femur fracture is someone crashing into you on the slope."
Adi Erber, a ski instructor who was with Schwarzenegger at the time of the accident last Saturday, said the governor was standing still when he tripped over his pole, which was caught under his ski, and fell.
There were lots of scientific papers on global cooling in mid 70's. The theory just wasn't scarey enough so they switched to global warming because a red earth is scarier then a white/blue one.
Marine...I'll talk to you later...yesterday was a real rough day and I'm going to rest for awhile...Thx
Why are the toads still sitting a the bottom of the pole waiting for insects to fall down? Why haven't they evolved wings so they can fly up where the bugs are?
Maybe because they eat crawling insects, moron. Ever hear of bats, moron?
Posted by Domingo on December 30, 2006 at 03:34 PM
Toads eat all kinds of insects, they eat them when the rest on the ground. If they would evolve wings they could fly up higher where many more bugs are resting.
Are bats toads that evolved wings?
That was a short lived relationship with the young lady, wasn't it? What did you do, call her one of those Racist names you have used about the Indians??? Posted by PamB on December 30, 2006 at 03:29 PM
What do we know about this kook? We know he likes to put down non-white people, then he gloats everytime a white person's job gets out-sourced and taken away by one. (He says that make's it cheaper for him). Then he smears Native people and turns around and claims he gets his love from one. This is one mixed-up double talking createn.
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Car bombs and a suicide bomber left at least 75 people dead and more than 100 wounded Saturday, the day former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein was executed for crimes committed during his rule.109th U.S. military death reported; December tops 2006 as deadliest month.
Read the full story:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/12/30/iraq.main/index.html
Are bats toads that evolved wings?
Now I know I'm talking to a "Nut".
You have reached a new epitomy of stupidity, congratulations!
I learned a long time ago not to argue with the mentally challenged so I will drop it.
Posted by PamB on December 30, 2006 at 03:29 PM
Oh oh, now you've got your Depends all in a bunch again.
My girlfriend is fine, thanks for asking. I showed her your picture and she said you should press your face in some dough and make gorilla cookies.
Good luck with your new "Sore Losers Club"!
C&L’s great achievement
A small cluster of power bloggers — focused on politics, blogging and humor — were responsible for the top 100 blog posts for 2006, according to word-of-mouth measurement firm Nielsen BuzzMetrics.
Crooks and Liars' posts on Stephen Colbert's monologue at the White House, and Keith Olbermann commentary on Rumsfeld, were the number 2 and 3 posts, respectively.
Beyond those two posts, posts from C&L also occupied the number 5 position (Olbermann's remarks on President Bush) and the 7 position (Al Gore's SNL would-be "presidential address"). That means that of the 10 most linked-to posts for all of 2006, 4 of them — 40% — came from one blog: C&L. Only one post from a top Bush-loving blog made the list (a Michelle Malkin rant on the Mohammed cartoons).
There are literally millions of blogs now. For one single blog, on its own, to generate 40% of the ten most linked-to posts for the year is a truly remarkable achievement. It is a testament to the uniquely valuable role C&L plays in the blogosphere — not only in providing invaluable video content but, more importantly, in helping to shape the dialogue and agenda for the liberal blogosphere as a whole.
By definition, any blogger who blogs regularly works very hard. But few, if any, work as hard as John Amato does. Maintaining this site is incredibly labor-intensive, and a person would do this only if they were driven by genuine passion to develop a meaningful alternative to our broken national media and rotting Beltway political institutions. The power of the blogosphere — particularly the liberal/anti-Bush blogosphere — is growing inexorably, and C&L (which includes everyone who helps to maintain it) is playing a central role in that development.
I call the natives "savages" and my girlfriend is my squaw.
Frosty,
What is a theory?? I'll save time, and posts, and answer the question for you.
Theory -- 1. A well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena2. A tentative theory about the natural world; a concept that is not yet verified but that if true would explain certain facts or phenomena
3. A belief that can guide behavior
Good!! Now what is a hypothesis? Again, I'll save you the time.
Hypothesis -- 1. A proposal intended to explain certain facts or observations2. A tentative theory about the natural world; a concept that is not yet verified but that if true would explain certain facts or phenomena
3. A message expressing an opinion based on incomplete evidence
Whoa!! Well, will you look specifically at the second definition of both of these terms? Theory, Hypothesis, in fact, I have always regarded a theory as being a well respected hypothesis of certain observable, or believable criteria. This being said, I wish for you to disprove the theory of evolution, as you are constantly requiring any here to prove this theory.
Also, I will add, I accept creation theory from the basis of it's foundational hypothesis'. I know I can never disprove this theory, so I accept this theory. Why, then, do you and your fundamentalism repeatedly require proof of the theory of evolution?
You are being asinine! Theories are always theories until they are disproven! Do you believe you are so self rightueous that you can prove creation theory and, henceforth, disprove the theory of evolution?
My hypothesis of the last question is, you are not that self righteous that you could prove, or disprove either theory.
Now, what arcane comments do you have for me?
Well, I think we will go to Wal Mart and get some Hagen Daz. You all can eat that Breyer's crap.
Right-wingers find "lessons" for U.S. in Somalia: Our press is too free, and we don't kill enough innocent people
http://www.attytood.com/2006/12/rightwingers_find_lessons_for_1.html
To try to engage and humiliate people that are loathed and despised, what kind of fool's errand is that. A sad waste of time for the lonely and friendless. A human plea, though, for mercy and forgiveness.
Get thee behind me satan, and don't push.
There has been no evidence submitted in support of the theory of evolution. No intermediate specimen of any species have ever been found. No missing links have ever been found of any species. But they have only had 150 years to look for them. Maybe they will find some tomorrow.
Good luck with your new "Sore Losers Club"!
Only in Frosty-the-moron world do you cure global cooling by making the globe cooler, and the people who won the elections are "the sore losers". We're obviously dealing with a mad-man here.
Who are you kiddin there, troll face? A guy who spends 7 days and nights on a blog thinks we believe he has any female who would pay attention to him? Does that casino hire blind $2 prostitutes? Only way you could get a piece!!! :)
eww, eww, don't pop up and tell us you are one of the regulars! That will be such a shock! HAHA
hey guys, you gotta watch this you-tube on this site. If you need a laugh, you will love it.
***Frosty*** on December 30, 2006 at 04:04 PM,
They have never found any proof of the evolvement of any species, or plant life?
Well evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape-like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered.
Evolutionists have been very clear about this distinction of fact and theory from the very beginning, if only because we have always acknowledged how far we are from completely understanding the mechanisms (theory) by which evolution (fact) occurred. Darwin continually emphasized the difference between his two great and separate accomplishments: establishing the fact of evolution, and proposing a theory--natural selection--to explain the mechanism of evolution.
davidual, all domesticated animals have evolved from humand selective breeding. You'd think somebody from a farming community would know that, but of couse it's hard to teach a "moron" anything. Plus, you can watch bacteria evolve under a microscope with your very own eyes. I don't know where these wing-nut morons think all these "super-bug" germs that are killing so many people are coming from, but I do know they sure would cry for help if they caught any of them.
Gale Norton is back providing oversight of energy development issues on public lands in the American West, this time as a key legal advisor for a major global oil company.
Norton sails through the revolving door.
Non-stop Pug corruption. It's pathological.
When I learned of Saddam Hussein’s execution last night, the first thought that popped into my head was “that should make the wingnuts happy.” And they do seem to be happy, or at least excited. Michelle Malkin, for example, has broken out the boldface and asterisks and anticipates finding the official execution video on YouTube. (She has not gone overboard with exclamation points, however, which suggests she’s moderating her excitement for the sake of decorum.)
However, several rightie bloggers (example) are expressing outrage that American news media is minimizing Saddam’s reign of terror, even though so far they’ve not provided concrete examples of American news media doing that. I believe they are upset that the news story is being reported like, you know, a news story, and that the television news bobbleheads who broke the announcement last night did not also break out the champagne and confetti and do an “end zone” victory dance on their desks. Patriotism, apparently, demands that we celebrate Saddam’s death, even though he’d been stripped of his power and has been pretty much irrelevant for some time, and even though it’s unlikely his death will change a damn thing.
goodfoe,
I started reading your book last night. Thanks for writing it. Get some rest.
Posted by TomN on December 30, 2006 at 03:35 PM
TomN,
Did any of the good doctors have time to look into Arnold's fractured split personality? Is he just a misunderstood molester/masher that deserves our sympathy or a Rove reptillian Republican?
DPD,
Welcome back. Hope you had a good time in Cheese World.
bet the blog will get more busy at the democrats take control of both houses of congress and start asking some questions of the folks who have been running things these past six years.
Posted by gregg on December 30, 2006 at 02:59 PM
gregg,
I'm looking forward to new reinforcements, too...and here DPD is with us again. The only constant on this blog is change....and Butters' cleaning syndrome.
gosh i take a little nap and the ice cream rules go right out the window...ok i will reissue everyone a new card with no rations punched on it and we will start over. remember the starbucks truck is on its way.
Posted by Domingo on December 30, 2006 at 04:24 PM
even though he’d been stripped of his power and has been pretty much irrelevant for some time, and even though it’s unlikely his death will change a damn thing.
Crooks and Liars
The Republicans still cling to the idea that Saddam had somehow been the mastermind behind the scenes pulling strings in the terrorism business. Well, they only have themselves to blame now.
Posted by gregg on December 30, 2006 at 04:35 PM
There's no use trying to referee a Texas tag team match. None of the participants play by any rules.
Where did you vacation, Frosty? The Holy Land or Disney Land? Those 700 Club sponsored trips can be a little confusing.
bbl.
mmmm do i detect the aroma of cappuchino swirl?
Sandy, that was very sweet--yes to the music.
DPD--welcome back from your adventures in Cheezeworld
goodfoe, take care of yourself. get plenty of rest!
but when you have time, google SOCOM. that's how they do it. everything is redacted, and tax free
better scam than the ones they developed using churches
david, nice work on the basics of critical thinking, there.
domingo, even though you blew your ice cream, you've shown some restraint. it is tempting
sandy i am sure it was nastyland, and i bet it won the brass ring.
...ok i will reissue everyone a new card with no rations punched on it and we will start over. remember the starbucks truck is on its way.
Posted by gregg on December 30, 2006 at 04:35 PM
your the best !
Can we get Ben and Jerry's though? Ben is the creater of True Majority and I like my money to go towards Liberal causes!
MSNBC announcing there are about 100-150 people lined up at Andrews AFB to watch Ford's plane come in. I can't help but think how many would line up for GWBush's , including me, to make sure the evil bastard was really dead!
Posted by PamB on December 30, 2006 at 04:11 PM
I saw that a couple of hours ago from a link posted at Dailykos. It's a good one, Pam. Describes just what Bush IS doing to the country, alright.
back on the road, y'all...nice to see the lively chatter this afternoon.
{{{Robert}}} you get my "cleverest device" of the day award, dear one. that was good with the (drugs) and (guns) thing...excellent! hope you're well and well-loved.
later, y'all
Thanks to Congressman-elect Jerry McNerney for giving us the final democratic radio address for '06. Good choice and good luck in congress in '06 Congressman McNerney.
domingo, even though you blew your ice cream, you've shown some restraint.
My posts were more to break-up the conversation between "it" and the Republican troll lovers who've been talking "sweet" with it over the past couple of days. When it comes to what I do, you've got to "think outside the box".
MSNBC announcing there are about 100-150 people lined up at Andrews AFB to watch Ford's plane come in. I can't help but think how many would line up for GWBush's , including me, to make sure the evil bastard was really dead!
Posted by PamB on December 30, 2006 at 04:48 PM
I'm with you. When the time comes I'm taking along a mirror to see if he's breathing and some garlic to ward off the evil spirits.
ap215, replacing that evil turd pombo was one of my favorite parts of the stomping the republicans took on 11/7/06.
saddam was hung and all I can feel is intense sadness. not for him but for US. for our once great country. for all the people who have died for bush's family feud. for all the children who will grow up without parents. for all the veterans who came home missing limbs. if this makes me feel so sad and angry and appalled..imagine how people in Iraq feel. they can't even walk to the market for fear of being killed. Iraq was not like that before we invaded. saddam was a bad guy but there was order. not to mention electricity and water. now Iraq is in a civil war and we are hated for the invasion. I feel sad for Americans and Iraqis equally. so many have suffered. so many are suffering and dying in Darfur but george bush doesn't give a damn. THIS WAR IS BUSH'S FAMILY FEUD. IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN AND IT ALWAYS WILL BE. IT DIDN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN. WE HUNG THE WRONG GUY. IT WAS BIN LADEN WHO ATTACKED US!!! DOES ANYONE IN AMERICA EVEN REMEMBER 9-11???!!!!!
fade,
It was a nice funeral. The music started off with a bang and ended so sweetly. My, but that Jackson woman had a beautiful voice.
They even had the customary family feud for public display and surprise "celebrity" guest speakers. The story about the golden casket and having to drive it all through the night to the Apollo made me cry.
I hope Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Scalia have the good grace to stay away from the Ford funeral on Tuesday. You know Bush and Cheney have to be there, but the rest were apparently not in Ford's good graces any longer from the remarks made on the Woodward tapes.
I'd like Jimmy Carter to be on of the surprise "celebrity" guest speakers. Let's hope Betty is still up to her customary outspoken women moments. It was nice to see her again this morning on TV. She looks so frail but then we all do when we reach that point in our lives.
Sandy, I thought I read somewhere the Bush wasn't going to Ford's funeral.
Posted by Sadie on December 30, 2006 at 05:08 PM
Sadie,
I agree with you heartily. The nightmare isn't over.
Here's some background history. The author seems to think the conflict is over between the warring factions. I don't know why.
Hanging ends chapter in Dawa-Baath fightBy BASSEM MROUE, Associated Press Writer
CAIRO, Egypt - Iraq's prime minister was smiling as he boldly signed Saddam Hussein's death warrant.
As the second-in-command of the Shiite Dawa party, Nouri al-Maliki had just closed what may have been the final chapter in a decades-old battle between the Islamic group and Saddam's now outlawed secular Baath party — a war so fierce that it left thousands dead and sent thousands more into exile...
//news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061230/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saddam_and_dawa
Iran-Contra
Funny, isn't it, how the Bush crime family took out the guy who helped them fight the Contras (Noriega) and the guy who helped them fight Iran (Saddam)? I'd say the moral of the story is, don't ever help the Bushies. They'll turn on you like a "dry drunk" in a heartbeat.
Sandy, I thought I read somewhere the Bush wasn't going to Ford's funeral.
Posted by Domingo on December 30, 2006 at 05:16 PM
Will,
Wow, that would be...be different. I can't see Karen Hughes letting such a good publicity moment pass, expecially with so many WW II veterans (there aren't too many left) present for Ford's military funeral.
SandyH
Did you collect your "sistah girl" badge from me yet. Awarded for your post last night on the Bush "wives' mix-up. :)
And you have earned it.
Ah, Bush is going to be there Tuesday CNN just said. He just isn't going to cut his Crawford "ranch" vacation short for the Lying in State Congressional ceremony. It would be rude to show up hung over after New Year's Eve.
I do hope they have the twins dried out by then. Or will they still be in Rio? Or Paraguay?
Posted by SandyH on December 30, 2006 at 05:20 PM
I'm sure the Iranians are jumping for joy. They consider Saddam a "War criminal" who killed a million of their people at Reagan, Bush, and Rummy's bidding.
Domingo
I've have been some reading and digging over the past two days of the Bush administration/Bush family and their dealings in Latin America.
Enough to gag you as to all the pies they have tried to put their fingers into. How about the hundreds of thousands of acres they purchased in Paraguay are in the vacinity (surrounding/partial over aquifer) of the world's largest water reservior - the Guarani Aquifer. the remaining acreage in the area of the Parana River which puts out the largest amount of hydroelctricity in the world.
They had to generate a war so as to get the cash to make this large purchase.
Posted by J on December 30, 2006 at 05:28 PM
J,
I didn't know I deserved the honor. I must have missed the post. Thanks. I'll wear it to all the appropriate events.
Well, I think we will go to Wal Mart and get some Hagen Daz. You all can eat that Breyer's crap.
Posted by ***Frosty*** on December 30, 2006 at 03:59 PM
Pick up some rum raisin for me since I've been put on detention. Just can't quite reach that top shelf in the frig when the warden isn't looking.
Flip-flop
Republicans were for Saddam before they were against him.
After the Iranian Revolution, enmity between Iran and the U.S. ran high. Realpolitikers in Washington concluded that Saddam was the "lesser of the two evils", support for Iraq gradually became the order of the day.
"In June, 1982, President Reagan decided that the United States could not afford to allow Iraq to lose the war to Iran. President Reagan decided that the United States would do whatever was necessary and legal to prevent Iraq from losing the war with Iran.
And that support included gassing Iranians.
During his period as Reagan's Special Envoy to the Middle East (November 1983 – May 1984), Rumsfeld was the main conduit for crucial American military intelligence, hardware and strategic advice to Saddam Hussein, then fighting Iran in the Iran-Iraq war. This policy was adopted when the war began to go strongly in Iran's favor, and it looked as if Iran would overrun Iraq completely. Although the United States was hesitant to support a Soviet client state, the prospect of a greatly expanded Iran outweighed these concerns. When he visited on December 19 – December 20, 1983, he and Saddam Hussein had a 90-minute discussion that covered Syria's occupation of Lebanon, preventing Syrian and Iranian expansion, preventing arms sales to Iran by foreign countries, increasing Iraqi oil production via a possible new oil pipeline across Jordan. According to declassified U.S. State Department documents Rumsfeld also informed Tariq Aziz (Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister) that: "Our efforts to assist were inhibited by certain things that made it difficult for us ... citing the use of chemical weapons."
During his brief bid for the 1988 Republican nomination, Rumsfeld stated that restoring full relations with Iraq was one of his best achievements. This was not a particularly controversial position at the time, when most American politicians considered ties with Iraq an effective bulwark against Iran.
Thrill of the Kill
Some observers think that Bush simply wanted the personal satisfaction of seeing Hussein hanged, which would not have happened if he had been sent to the Hague. As Texas governor, Bush sometimes took what appeared to be perverse pleasure at his power to execute prisoners.
In a 1999 interview with conservative writer Tucker Carlson for Talk magazine, Bush ridiculed convicted murderer Karla Faye Tucker and her unsuccessful plea to Bush to spare her life.
Asked about Karla Faye Tucker’s clemency appeal, Bush mimicked what he claimed was the condemned woman’s message to him. “With pursed lips in mock desperation, [Bush said]: ‘Please don’t kill me.’”
But a more powerful motive was always Hussein’s potential threat to the Bush Family legacy if he ever had a forum where he could offer detailed testimony about the historic events of the past several decades.
Since stepping into the White House on Jan. 20, 2001, George W. Bush has made it a top priority to conceal the history of his father’s 12 years as Vice President and President and to wrap his own presidency in a thick cloak of secrecy.
www.consortiumnews.com/2006/123006.html
Hey DPD,
Welcome back. Did you ever listen to the Fugs? Don't know what got into me posting their Kill for Peace lyrics yesterday. Think they were also known as rank & defiled.
later
A New Year's Resolution
The time is near to close the books on 2006. This is a time for reflection and for planning our 2007 agenda. Another divisive election is behind us. The holidays were nice, made so much more nicer by the fact we shall return to our much deserved majority positions on 4JAN07. Speaker-Elect Pelosi (D-CA) and Sen. Reid (D-NV) will have their hands full keeping the radical right in check. The Presidential hopefuls will be in full stride on the contributions collection front gearing up for the first primaries. All the pieces are in place for a return to something that hasn't been seen since 2000; bipartisanship and civility. That does not mean we won't investigate the lack of oversight in the last six years however, it does not have to be mean-spirited either. Those responsible for the Iraq debacle as well as a number of other issues will be held accountable. History is well on the way to holding President Bush as one of the worst, if not the worst, president in U.S. history. But we can show the people that we are able to rise above the fray. We can do the things that the Republicans rarely did in the last six years, reach across the aisle to the sane members of the loyal opposition. It would be so much easier to maintain the petty bickering started by the Republicans but we are better than that. We are smarter. We have the superior way. And now we have the golden opportunity to prove it. As we begin 2007 I ask each of us to remember one important thing. Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Greens, and all the rest have one very important commonality; we are all Americans. We would all take up arms to defend the others and we all want what is best for the citizens of this country. We all stood together on 11SEP01. We can all stand together again. For the sake of the greatest nation on this planet, civilty must return to our politics. Let us set the example in 2007. If we are successful, we'll hold the majority for another 40 year stretch, or more, and the United States with the rest of the world will be a much better place.
May God, or whatever you believe in, keep you safe and prosperous in the New Year. Keep the Faith and keep the faith, the liberal revolution has arrived.
J, on that Bush land deal in South America, I personaly think he just used his political connections to pick up something for almost nothing that he could turn around and sell in a couple of years when he leaves office for ten times the price. The no-account Bush boys have ben doing that all their lives. There's a clip of Bush Jr in Micheal Moor's movie F 9/11 of junior saying into the camara right after his daddy became president, "My daddy's president, and that's worth something, because I can always get into the White House to see my dad". This other stuff about trying to excape from war crimes prosecution (no U.S. President is ever goig to be prosecuted for war crimes) or want to be near some huge U.S. military base, or a lot of the rest all sounds like conspiracy theories to me. I think it's all for the quik money to be made. Stealing land out from under the natives who have no "title" is par for the course down there, and Bush Jr wants to be a part of that "rip-off".
Just wanna correct myself i posted '06 in my post on McNerney,i meant to say '07.
My apologizes.
J,
I didn't know I deserved the honor. I must have missed the post. Thanks. I'll wear it to all the appropriate events.
Posted by SandyH on December 30, 2006 at 05:40 PM
Graciously bestowed upon a lady who knows how to throw a dig in such a ladylike fashion. :)
J, here's an article that tells how they "use" that "no title" scam to steal Native land over in Isreal. They did (and are still doing) that to the Natives in the Americas, and they did it to the Black "Freedmen" in this country after the civil war. Racist pigs like this Frosty guy pat themselves on the back for being "racially superior" because their ancestors were superior land thieves. Now he gloats and calls the Natives his people stole the land from, "savages". Whatever he has to do to "justify" his theft, I guess.
YOU DON'T normally see farmers run, but this farmer and his son were sprinting, carrying pails of barley seed down to stony, tiered plots through a rolling desert landscape.
Jub'a was working fast because, as everybody knew, the Jewish settlers who were squatting illegally on the hilltop — fencing off a larger and larger perimeter around their newly minted settlement of Havat Maon — coveted this land and, hearing the tractor, would call the Israeli army.
And then the soldiers, who have jurisdiction over the territories (and hence the farmers) would demand proof of ownership and, seeing none, suspend the work. But with Israeli civilians, witnesses (that is, us) among the farmers, they would not drive the farmers off, as the settlers hoped. They would call the police, who, unlike the soldiers, have jurisdiction over us.
Then the climax would come. The police would call their commander, and the commander would call a permanent halt to the plowing (but not be bullying about it, seeing us). He would insist that no land in the area could be planted absent a clear title. But he and everyone else would know that title could never be established because the land in question belongs to the village by common oral tradition since the time of the Ottoman administration. It would likely be declared "state land," which the settlers would interpret as meant for them.
more at...LA Times
Domingo
Don't dismiss the Latin America involvement so lightly. There is a tremendous amount to be gained from ownership and control of large expanses of land in the regions and countries. Like water (a vital necessity), hydroelectricity, natural gas, oil reserves.
With the water alone in the Guarani Aquifer, geologists state that it could supply the world for 200 years and the experts are stating and predicting critical water shortages in 20 years. The aquifer has become politicized and controversial. Hence the instability in the region being created by the US government and the finger pointing at Hugo Chavez.
The Bushes are setting up their dysfunctional children and grandchildren financially for decades and indeed a millinium to come.
Domingo
Gotta check and see just how that land "purchase" went.
To show just how large the Guarani Aquifer is, geologist aren't even sure where the western boundry is in the reservior.
I've seen a number of my fellow bloggers float theories as to the land deal in Paraguay. I have a more somber theory. I think it is an ideal place for a bunker to ride out a disaster, either natural or man-made, which begs the question, "What do they know that we don't?" Now where is my tinfoil hat and 3-D glasses....
Good evening, alll.
The Bushes are setting up their dysfunctional children and grandchildren financially for decades and indeed a millinium to come.
Posted by J on December 30, 2006 at 06:35 PM
J,
It didn't help the Romanoffs in Russia.
The Bushes are setting up their dysfunctional children and grandchildren financially for decades and indeed a millinium to come
but as has been already proven by the Bush spawns, Money Can Not Buy Class!!!
never has there been a more uncouth group than the George Bush's and their families!
Bush not attending Ford ceremonies
Bush, who is on vacation, missed Reagan's service in the Capitol, too, because he was attending a G-8 summit
Well everybody I know it sounds so conspiracy theory like, but the Bushes did not purchase 98,840 acres in Paraguary near the Boliva and Brazil border near/around a town called Chaco for a ranch.
You know when you feel that you have explained something, but deep down you know you've only scratched the surface? Well that's how this land purchase feels. Oh yeah, it's easy to see where they will benefit from the water, closeness to Bolivia and it's natural gas and the hydoelectricity, BUT there is something else. I don't know what, BUT there is something else.
And the fact that you sent your party/hardy daughter down to Paraguay to meet with the President as the purchase is ongoing and afterwards is puzzling. There are tons of diplomatic folks in the government and private sector that could have handled this dialogue. Why Jenna?? And upon the purchase 500 US military arrive to the base in Paraguay with exemption from ICC rules and prosecution. What are these folks going to do that will be so criminal?
Something is not right with this picture. All of this transpired in October 2006. Before the elections. There is a huge piece in this puzzle missing and what is it?
Paraguay in a spin about Bush's alleged 100,000 acre hideaway
The US presence in Paraguay has been under scrutiny since May 2005 when the country's Congress agreed to allow 400 American marines to operate there for 18 months in exchange for financial aid.
At the time many viewed the arrival of troops as a sign that Washington was trying to monitor US business interests in neighbouring Bolivia, after the election of Evo Morales, a leftwing leader who promised to nationalise his country's natural gas industry.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1928928,00.html
I am on my 2nd sponsored child in Paraguay, which is an extremely poor nation, much like Mexico. No good reason can come out of bush's interest in it.
And, as long as the MSM is having their orgy for a corpse, let's not forget that Ford was THE enabler for the deaths of 250,000 people in Indonesia.
I notice Cheney and Dole looking "uncomfortable"
Earlier today I saw the FOIA releases of the transcripts between Ford and Suharto. Ford just came out and said that he doesn't care how many Tamils were killed, as long as Suharto kept the money flowing TO AND FROM the Pugs.
Ford created the "Killing Fields", take THAT, Mel Gibson.
Speaking of uncouth, how apparent that George W has no class or breeding or just plain old home training to miss any of the funeralizing ceremonies for former President Ford.
I guess it's called, "I don't give a damn"
Still he should be attending all the Washington ceremonies if for no other reason as representative of the office that each man held.
Like what else has George Jr. got to do cause he sure as hell ain't runnin' the country.
Sadie on December 30, 2006 at 05:08 PM,
Click on my name and scroll to the last entry, or use the links at the sidebar, to the last entry, and you can get a sense of how I feel about the whole Afghanistan/Iraq travesty.
Oh yeah, those that have gone over the Bush family financials cannnot see where the cash came from to make the Paraguay purchase.
Sooo ....... they got a 200 year mortgage or something?
Is the land being listed as an asset of the Carlyle Group or Halliburton? Maybe some shell corp set up strictly for this porpose?
In watching the Brown and Ford funerals in the last few days, it strikes you at how much more we in the West ritualize our death ceremonies.
Now contrast that with how hastily they bury Muslims. It seems it's important in their culture to let the death rest in peace. The mourners there are also so much more outward in their grief. Is that just a religious tradition or a cultural custom?
Why do we drag things out so? I remember when my grandfather died back in the late 1950s. He laid at the funeral parlor for almost a week. We had to attend the wake every night after school. My grandmother was exhausted by the end of the week. I suppose it took days for out of town mourners to come in by train back then...yet it seemed too much somehow.
Things are done a lot faster now, but we still do it with such a formal, rigid set of rules and protocol. I'm not sure it was always done that way in our country except for those funerals when presidents and military heros died. Is this something that evolved as the middle class expanded in the 20th century?
I understand Saddam's clan came and took his body shortly after he died, and he is probably in the ground by now. Dust to dust.
I do think military funerals are important for all of us to observe. Dying with all that violence around you is such an abrupt and confused ending. It's important to remember that man was not created to leave the world in this way.
We should all have the privilege to die in bed with our family close around you when possible... whether the funeral is done fast or slow.
It's not natural to fight wars of choice. Those who proclaim that it is are not quite right in the head or the heart.
J on December 30, 2006 at 07:16 PM,
You send the party/hearty daughter down because you do not raise to raise eyeballs, or is that eight balls, about the officialism of the land grab. The bimbo in chief is perfect cover for this covert operation.
Maybe he is gonna raise pineapples.
Posted by ***Frosty*** on December 30, 2006 at 07:04 PM
More like coconuts.
Iraq is a country of liars and cowards, everything done through theft and in disguise, with all shooting in the back. But none of that matches the Bush Administration. That Saddam was executed after only one trial for retaliation against men and boys involved in a Shia attempt to assassinate him so that the trial for gassing Iraqis-- the main issue on which Bush based the invasion after all preceding justifications proved to be lies ("Saddam gassed his own people...!")-- only raises again the question of whether Saddam was executed to prevent his giving data on the Reagan and Bush Sr. supply of component chemicals that make the gas, encouraging him to use it on Iran. Furthermore, the issue of Iran having done the gassing at Habjala, not Saddam, also would make this an uncomfortable trial for the dumbest liar ever to lead us in all our history, GW Bush.
America is doomed, not to speak of Iraq, unless all American troops are withdrawn by a publicly given date certain soon and GW Bush is impeached for heinous crimes, criminal negligence and deceptions inflicted on the American people; that, of course, only after Cheney is impeached for corrupt influence, making possible war profiteering by Halliburton.
No terrorist or would be terrorist can forget that the first to scoop Saddam's execution is the US Arab-language propaganda station. Every American who suffers the consequences of this stupid scoop, owes his/her fate to this reckless imbecile we call "Mr. President."
Remove him at once from Wash DC and our troops from Iraq in the name of sanity, justice and a minimum standard of responsible intelligence required to lead the country.
I cannot bring myself, in light of the depth of imbecility in which we find ourselves drowning and bleeding, to wish anyone a Happy New Year....But once the Bush crowd is totally gone, I certainly will find myself again hopeful in the American character.
If Mr. Bush has a grain of dignity, he would use Saddam's revolver that he had with him when found in the spider hole and is now in Bush's possession, to shoot himself in the head and thus show that he is truly "saved" by saving us from his miserable existence. Only his hand can set us free from him in that way. The rest of us would do well to stick to legitimate political means and legal action needed to bring him to the same "justice" as well.
Daniel E. Teodoru
J on December 30, 2006 at 07:25 PM,
My guess is the reason Georgie Porgy is not attending Gerald Ford's funeral is that there is a large concern for his personal welfare, and I don't mean wealth. I think Georgie's and Laurie's displacement to a storm shelter yesterday may have the same reason.
Don't know this for a fact, but just hypothesizing.
Would someone please extend their arm for Mrs. Ford to hold on to while the clergyman leads them in prayer. She looks like she would appreciate being closer to her family. Poor dear. There she stands all alone next to Darth Vader.
this an arcane point about bernie kerick and some security doors the nyc dept of corrections purchased but never used...i post it because my theory is that kerick will be one large factor in preventing rudy ghouliani from getting the republican nomination for president in 08. if no one else is interested i know fade has found some fun in the intricacies of new york politics:
...Soon after, Mr. Kerik joined an advisory board of DataWorld Solutions Inc., a Long Island-based company that sold electronic cables and security products and was renamed Defense Technologies Systems Inc. before going dormant in 2005. Mr. Kerik was to be granted stock options and receive a commission on sales he generated, according to a Securities and Exchange Commission filing...
TomN...Thank you!...the book is harsh and brutal but it needs to be that way...As you get into the latter part of the first section, it deals more with the criminal fraud techniques used by private insurance companies to cheat their claimants. This affects as many as 100 million Americans who have health insurance thru employer sponsored group insurance plans.....The insurance companies have a lot of practice and are well trained and well skilled at "cost containing" their policyholders. Please remember this as you work for reform in our health care systems.
Maybe some shell corp set up strictly for this porpose?
Posted by J on December 30, 2006 at 07:29 PM
in one of those links (ugh, which one?) i remember reading that it was a friends of bush group, an llc
Fade...thx for your post at 4:46PM...I'll study the socom situation in the wee hours of the am when I have a little more time...thx again!
J, on that Bush land deal in South America, I personaly think he just used his political connections to pick up something for almost nothing that he could turn around and sell in a couple of years when he leaves office for ten times the price.
Will,
That sounds like the Rangers scam.
Domingo at 5:16 PM...Your ref. to a"dry drunk" is so true. That's why I commented to Fade that Rev Moon better watch his back. When he is no longer of any use to Mr. Bush, his life will be worth about 50 cents, the cost of one round of 7.63x39 ammo.
Nahh ..... the Bushes aren't going to sell those 100,000 acres. Uh uh, no way. Not when they sit virtually on top of the world' largest water reservior.
These folks have all intention for them and their kin to milk it till it moos for generations to come.
Water at a premium price
The real reason Bush isn't at the eulogy tonight?
Cheney didn't want him to screw up the ceremony and told him to stay away. They can't trust him.
Bush is gone way past goofy and is borderline crazy. Without his wet nurse (and we all know who she is) to attend to him, he tends to droll or worst yet smirk for no reason at all at the most unappropriate times.
Betty Ford might be frail, but I bet she could clobber him good if he messed up her husband's funeral.
TomN at 5:50 PM thx for your link to Robert Parry's "Bush silences a dangerous witness" solid information.....thx again
J at6:35Pm..can you see those oil tanker cleaned out and transporting water to our children and grand children at $50 per barrel 20 years from now? I would still like to know how the money is being funneled bacb to Bush and who the "Bag Man" is...good work J and Fade!
Posted by goodfoe on December 30, 2006 at 08:11 PM
goodfoe,
I'd say the Bushes better watch their backs around the Rev. Moon. His tentacles reach into the most bizarre and far reaching places. He's probably already operating in South America. If he wants a piece of the action, they better cough it up. Neal is a protégé...another higher father that a Bush son looks up to?
J on December 30, 2006 at 08:12 PM,
I find the water and Rev. Moon's accomplise as the interesting facts of this incidence. Doesn't it say in the Book of Revelations about the defiling of the water on earth?
16:4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood.16:5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.
16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.16:17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
Is there any question?
I happened on this site. Maybe you all have seen it before, but I couldn't stop laughing especially after seeing Dick 'The Dick' Cheney. You will know what I mean when you see the photo. Some are funny, some are sad... but so true.
From a man who may be in need of a pardon before the next two years are over:
"It was this man, Gerald R. Ford, who led our republic safely though a crisis that could have turned to catastrophe," said Cheney, speaking in the Capitol Rotunda where Ford's body rested in a flag-draped casket. "Gerald Ford was almost alone in understanding that there can be no healing without pardon."
HAPPY NEW YEAR DEMOCRATS !
This from Le Monde Diplomatique, check the whole article
http://mondediplo.com/2006/12/01palestine
Despite the courageous stand by the Labour minister of culture, Ophir Pines-Paz, who resigned in protest, Ehud Olmert recently invited Avigdor Lieberman to join the government as deputy prime minister with special responsibility for strategic threats (see “What has happened to Israeli society?”). Lieberman is the leader of the far right party Israel Beitenu (Israel is our home), whose members are mostly immigrants from the former Soviet Union, often accused of xenophobia. Lieberman’s inclusion in a cabinet that is confused and inclined to use force without due reflection is a danger to the whole region. First and foremost to Israel and its people. This has not been sufficiently emphasised by the European media, usually so quick to denounce the inclusion of extremists in EU governments.
Israeli newspapers including Haaretz have seen the dangers more clearly: “To appoint the most irresponsible and unrestrained leader to the post of minister for strategic threats is itself a strategic threat. Lieberman’s lack of restraint and his ill-timed pronouncements — comparable only to those of the president of Iran — threaten to bring disaster to the entire region” (1). The Israeli political commentator and writer on European fascism, Zeev Sternhell, is clear on this. In his view, Lieberman is perhaps “the most dangerous politician in the history of Israel” because of his “cocktail of nationalism, authoritarianism and dictatorial mentality” (2).
The danger is heightened by the situation in the region. The recent defeat of the Republican party (and by association President George Bush) in the US midterm elections and the US military failure in Iraq may affect US policy in the region. There seem to be potential plans for the US to contact Syria (despite its suspected involvement in the assassination of Pierre Gemayel in Lebanon last month) and even Iran, whose help may be essential to get the US out of the mess in Iraq.
These developments are not at all to the liking of some in Israel, notably Lieberman and his friends, who still bet on confrontation and the use of force. An irresponsible move on their part cannot be ruled out because they are aware that governments around the world are beginning to understand that there will be no peace in the region until the Palestinians are offered a viable state.
Posted by Olivia on December 30, 2006 at 08:59 PM
Olivia,
Thank you for the link and article.
I had no idea what was going on in Israel. So the hawks are gathering.
seem to be potential plans for the US to contact Syria (despite its suspected involvement in the assassination of Pierre Gemayel in Lebanon last month) and even Iran, whose help may be essential to get the US out of the mess in Iraq.
And it seems odd that the French think Bush is approaching anyone diplomatically in the Middle East. The Bush Doctrine forbids it and we all know George W. Bush doesn't make mistakes.
Posted by davidual on December 30, 2006 at 08:35 PM
I am trying to figure how Rev. Moon figures in this whole scenerio of the land in Paraguay because he purchase some also.
Posted by SandyH on December 30, 2006 at 08:55 PM
Sandy I thought the same when I heard him make that statement. Can you believe that he could stand their and give that speech after all he has done to take the United States down? The part about defending the Constitution was another place where I yelled "you f*cking as*hole, how dare you!"
Posted by davidual on December 30, 2006 at 08:35 PM
Don't worry...!
Resigns from his ecclesiastic life Monsignor Fernando Lugo to pursue a run for the candidacy to President of Paraguay. He is supported by all forms and factions of the Paraguayan left. Moon's operations and its days are numbered if the polls are accurate.
What I find interesting here is that everyone has a special little interest in the different areas of the Bush administration/Bush family. There are some folks tht keep good watch on the War in Iraq situation and report on the current action, there are some that are interested in the Israeli situation and are commenting and reporting. Then there is the political candidate group that keep a run down on the campaigns and the candidates. There are those that keep us informed on the economic situation in the country and indeed the world.
I guess I have taken the Latin America angle with the Bushes. What I'm beginnning to find out is that the US government has played a large role in helping the George W and family accomplish what they have.
It is more likely, not less likely, that the U.S. will be struck by yet another terrorist attack. Extremists now have conflicts within which to engage themselves in Palestine and Afghanistan, with Lebanon not too far off. Another such area of training is quickly growing in Somalia and another is well under way in Iraq. That makes four likely terrorist training grounds when before there was only Afghanistan. Afghanistan makes five.
With five areas within the Middle East engaged in conflict, or on the verge of conflict, there comes the potential that we may see five times as many terrorists as existed in 2001. Terrorists themselves find motivation in this sort of conflict and may easily find reason to blame the United States for their troubles as President Bush has seen fit to meddle in a bit of everything. Worst of all, he would not keep Israel and Palestine working towards a peaceful resolution of their differences. Israel is, sadly, the key ingredient in many of these conflicts.
Correction, four areas in the Middle East and another in Africa.
I see that subversive GregL is still free and on the loose. I was beginning to think that Ashcroft had tracked him down and locked him up as one of his last acts as Attorney General.
GregL, if you need a place to hide out, you can join me up here in MN. The last place anyone will look for a Texan is in an ice shack parked out in the middle of a frozen lake in northern MN. Plus it's all you can eat.
Our approach to terrorism these past years has been based not on sound logic but instead on simple ideology. That simple ideology said to attack or ignore any person or group of persons who said or did anything that was contrary to Bush Doctrine. The Bush Doctrine being whatever felt right at the time.
When our president came into office we were in the process of reducing terrorist threat. Since our president came to office that terrorist threat has grown, and our president not only failed to prevent an attack that he knew was coming well in advance but also increased that threat by refusing to use his diplomatic powers to resolve conflicts between Arabs and Israelis. The president has also wrongly assaulted the people of Iraq for fear that they might assault us, though they never did.
Our foreign policy is retarded. If what you want is access to one of the largest sources of crude oil, then the last thing you do is make access more difficult by antagonizing those who lead the nations with most control of that resource. Instead, you get over your differences, prevent an escalation of disagreements which may lead to conflict, and talk in order to find common ground. You'll actually spend less money and resources through diplomacy than through war if your goal is to gain access to foreign oil supplies.
If your goal is instead to free a people you believe to be enslaved, then you must take pains to ensure that the enslaved do not turn on you. You do not do this by occupying their country for years after removing the dictator from power. Instead you remove the dictator from power and then leave. This one action will itself set into motion the movement towards liberation that you so desire and cannot be confused with occupation.
Warfare is far more complicated than this administration has ever been able to understand. It is not just guns and killing, but the appropriate use of these and diplomacy that leads the way to your goals. If you can't accept that all have a part to play, then you certainly can't lead a nation at war.
Help a lifelong Democrat get elected!
"I have been happy to have helped campaign for so many Democrats on local, state, and national levels---and now I am running"---slr.
www.reedforcouncil.com
I wish you love, peace, and happiness in the New Year!
Thanks
Steven Reed
Marine,
Others have said it before on this blog...we think they make it up as they go along.
The only thing planned is the financials (not by them but by the industries that benefit most) and the dirty trick political activities by Rove.
If they had to actually devise a real domestic or foreign policy, it would send Bush over the edge. He can't think beyond his next mountain bike ride. He assumes Cheney knows what he is doing. Think again.
Images of a dead Saddam Hussein released
http://euronews.net/create_html.php?page=detail_info&article=398513&lng=1#
Key Facts about the Genocide in Darfur, Sudan
http://www.codepink4peace.org/article.php?list=type&type=179
Leading article: An execution that will do nothing to quell the violence on Iraq's streets
http://comment.independent.co.uk/leading_articles/article2112542.ece
Mixed reactions to Saddam's death in Iraq
Initial reactions to the news of Saddam Hussein's execution were largely celebratory in Iraq. In the holy Shi'ite city of Najaf some 180 kilometres south of Baghdad, people took to the streets, cheering and chanting. Many brandished photos of Ayatollah Ali Sistani, the highest religious authority for Shi'ites. "Saddam Hussein's execution is a joy for the Iraqi people," said one man. "We were oppressed for 35 years. Thanks to God, we have got rid of him."
In the southern city of Basra, also predominantly Shi'ite, there were celebrations too. But in Saddam's hometown of Tikrit in the north, a four-day curfew has been imposed. His family is demanding he be buried there next to his two sons.
Watch the short video:
http://euronews.net/create_html.php?page=detail_info&article=398526&lng=1
Editorials and Information on
How to Impeach Bush & Cheney
H.R. 1696: Employee Free Choice Act - via dkos
What follows is a summary/synthesis of empirical studies that reveal rampant employer violations of labor law intended to allow employees to make a free and uncoerced choice about whether to join or support a union. Also included is a description of the multi-million dollar union-busting industry. The diary concludes with an outline of the Employee Free Choice Act as a fix for the broken NLRB election/certification process.
Inadequate enforcement of U.S. labor law is a principle reason why workers in the United States may no longer effectively exercise their fundamental right of self-organization for mutual aid and protection. The NLRB certification process not only fails to effectuate the major policy goal of the NLRA in that it fails to promote collective bargaining, but it fails to guarantee internationally recognized fundamental human rights.
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The Employee Free Choice Act, which will be at at the top of the new Democratic Congress’ legislative agenda, is designed to restore the ability of employees to make a free and uncoerced choice regarding unionization while reducing the negative economic effects associated with the conflict ridden NLRB certification process. The EFCA includes three major legislative proposals that would promote cooperative collective bargaining, discourage wasteful strategic behavior and lower transaction costs now associated with the NLRB certification process.
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The co-sponsors listed in the HR 1696 link are for the outgoing 109th congress. My state has two new Democrats in the 110th congress that I need to figure out where they stand on this.
Dear Dems, let 2007 be your year!
I first met Polosi when she was a beautiful firebrand and we worked to get Poppy Bush to grant permanent residence to Chinese students. I see she may have gotten a lot older since (me too) but she is really on fire (is it + or- fire?)
You all were voted in on a protest vote. I started "Republicans for a Democrat Congress in 2006" and we had a one page message w/o any address or any contact. It spread literally hand to hand, photocopy machine to photocopy machine. There was an incredible willingness among REGISTERED Republicans to accept loss of Congress as a cancer cure!
Bush will be gone and no Republican or supporter will ever believe that such a moron would ever be their standard bearer again. So, to hold on to them in 2008, you must prove that you have standards, big tent, tolerance, honesty, civility and ABOVE ALL, a penchant for "meaningful dialogue." I recall how at UC Berkeley the New Left creamed you guys because you ran away from their demand for meaningful dialogue. Don't do it anymore. Sponsor debate, debate, debate. I was State Chairman of NY and NJ Young Americans for Freedom in the 70s. I saw all these fat turds grow up. Now they are soluble in meaningful dialogue like sugar in hot water. You must teach your base to go out and debate. When your grass roots can argue, you will win without having to buy TV time selling your political souls. But you must start the grass roots work NOW, before the issues are hot. YOU MUST BECOME THE ISSUES. Then people will associate you not with empty policies but with caring study of what's ailing America. I'm a doctor, trust me!
I want us guys who are issue focused to begin internal debate and dialogue inside the Dem clubs at all levels. Then, invite Republicans for FRIENDLY chats. They realize that Jesus is in Heaven and all that's left on earth are crooked and perverted Pastors. Show them the way to freedom from Bible babble-- freedom of the God given responsible free soul of each of us-- by showing them the way Jesus wants us to love each other and care for each other. At worst you will win only the Catholics (w/o them the Republicans can't win) but at best you will win the moral war by focusing on individual responsibility. I'm staying a registered Republican so I can serve as a gateway to freedom that comes, not from lemming-like minds, but from responsible dealing with complexity. Republicans followed Bush after 9/11 out of fear because they fear complexity because they fear higher education. It paralyzes and confuses them, they think, causing questions instead of actions, paralysis instead of retribution. Give them confidence and teach them to really believe in themselves and you will get back faithfulness and gratitude. The rest depends on the honesty of your candidates. Above all, spare people the stupid slimy sleazy Democrat "election expert," Rove-wanna-bes all. These people are poison because to them it's a job better than a real job. But as seasonal workers they have nothing in common with the voters. Like Rove they are anti-democratic because they believe in mass deception while democracy is individual responsibility, thus persuasion and compromise.
I pray you keep your majority. I came half way around the world, dragged here by parents who believed in America as the Paradise of Freedom. But I will be a refugee again if America is taken-over by brain-dead Republican garbage (eg. Bush Jr., Kean Jr, etc). So I need you to help me believe in America. In return for you trying I offer you my whole being and every bit of life in me. You see, I procreated three Americans and Bush made them want to leave. I insisted: stay and fight; that was in 2004...it was catastrophic. Please, please, don't force me to leave them here while I run away. Help me and all other Americans believe in you and what you stand for. Life is short, but goodness is eternal, even in politics, if you care enough. Love and best wishes for the New Year beloved Dems!
Daniel E. Teodoru
Posted by Esmeralda on December 29, 2006 at 04:30 PM Dors, forget speaking French, we all better learn Spanish.
Three of our four had Spanish all through grade school and high school and two of three are making some attempt to keep it up.
The fourth had the opportunity to go through a French emersion program in elementary school where all the classes are taught in the target language. The emersion experience turned out to be great and has worked out well in his case.
I've often wondered if my wife and I should have encouraged them all to learn Chinese but really all we ever wanted them to do was to learn about at least one other culture as intimately as possible.
And it's tough to really learn about another culture without learning the language.
They all appreciate and are intrigued by other languages and cultures so my wife and I didn't screw up too badly. :)
I fell in love with French in high school and with my French teacher in college - so any logical, reasoned opinion or analysis would have been wasted on me. :)
good morning. last day of 2006 and in just a few days THE DEMOCRATS WILL CONTROL BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS!!!!!
Gregg...Icecream recieved and polished off.....It was great!!!
good morning good foe. yes the starbucks is great. tonight we will be sending out godiva ice cream. we are offering belgian dark chocolate or vanilla carmel pecan.
meanwhile my hapless giants tried to lose to the haplesser redskins but tiki barber wouldn't let them. so i guess they are most likely to face the evil cowboys down your way. hope the jints can last thru the first half.
Good morning Fighting Dem's....
Mr. Bush has indicated from his ranch in Crawford that he wants an "'economic package" for Iraq for short term jobs, etc. Mr. Bush has had 4 years to do this. He had no real plan for the occupation. It's a little late to be proposing this "economic' package, not to mention that under his oversight hundreds of millions of dollars have been lost, stolen, with no accountability. He is grabbing at straws, refusing to accept responsibility for any of the mistakes his administration has made. He no longer has any credibility at all as far as managing this occupation of Iraq. Our troops need to be brought home in the safest manner possible and the expense of "Bush's Folly" needs to end NOW!!!...As far as the argument that cutting off funding will some how or other place the troops at more risk, if the troops don't have body armor, if the humvees don't have armor. if the machine gunners on the humvees don't have "Cooper Slings" by now, they aren't going to get them. Bush and Rumsfelt have had 4 years to supply them. The failure to properly equipped our troops just goes to show how callous this administration is. And Gates is no improvement. Continuing the funding will only result in our troops staying longer and more of our children being killed and maimed.
As you can see, the spirit of peace and forgiveness does not rest with me this am as far as how I feel about "the mis-administration" we have in Washington.
Gregg...I have not been following the Giants much...offhand, I don't think either ieam has been playing too well. AS far as the Cowboys go, poor "TO" has been whining that he does not get enough balls thrown to him in the first half, so that when he does get balls thrown to him in the second half, he can't catch them. Poor baby!
there is no reason to forgive these nasty bastards for what they have done to our country and the world.
Gregg...."The Boss" told me it's time to go. We go out on Sunday am for "the old peoples" cheap breakfast...Gives us a few minutes to spend time together before the grandkids get up and start taking all of her time......we take the lab with us....He loves it.....Have a great day!!!....Later...
Gregg...I forgot.....Fade said that I still need you to sign off on my absence slip from Friday...pls send that to her....also...I want my icecream tonite so I'll try to leave the troll alone today...he is a waste of time.....Later..
{{{goodfoe}}} bon appetit!
that dialogue was typical--the prayers and then, the curses
this should help settle things down with the Palestinians, huh?
for those who think that the bush crime family doesn't have a plan, look back on what he said about the ending...future presidents, etc. the war machine is their plan.
goodfoe, get that lab a large stack. the ice cream is on its way.
morning fade. hear anything from the kids in nyc?
December 30,2006 | WASHINGTON -- A California Democrat newly elected to Congress promised Saturday that his party will restore integrity and civility to the House when it assumes control in January.
"In this election, the American people clearly called for change," Rep.-elect Jerry McNerney said in the Democrats' weekly radio address. "As our first responsibility in fulfilling the mandate of this critical election, House Democrats will restore integrity and civility in Washington in order to earn the public trust."
The effort to build that trust will include bans on gifts from lobbyists, lobbyist-funded travel and use of corporate jets, McNerney said.
The incoming congressman also promised "a new direction in Iraq" and said Democrats would resist any plan to deploy more U.S. troops there. "The Iraqis need to understand that the responsibility for the future of that country is theirs," he said.
McNerney also said Democrats would work to reduce U.S. dependence on foreign oil "while creating jobs, prosperity and a healthy environment with a new energy technology, including renewable energy and biofuels."
Before running for office, McNerney worked as a wind-energy engineer and consultant. In November, he defeated incumbent Republican Richard Pombo, whose efforts to rewrite the endangered species law and open public lands to energy drilling were frequently criticized by environmentalists when he chaired the House Resources Committee.
Mornin' Morning Crew! Snow on the ground (finally) in upstate NY.
yes, i spoke with them yesterday from Chelsea. they are having a wonderful time and all is going smoothly. your travel tips have been very helpful, too. thank you!
i'm looking forward to the photo. salon has a columnist that does free music downloads and his photos are pretty amazing, too. i don't know if you've ever seen them. wow, these youngsters!
{{{Cyn}}}! snow in December? how quaint!
good to see you...got the lineup?
Fade, Al must be on vacation. Can't find anything on the lineup!
Cyn,
that's okay. i'm spoiled. how are you adjusting to the big search? hope you're having some bouts of confidence...
Fade, that indeed.com site is amazing. Again, thanks for giving me the info.
I am actually thinking of starting my own freelance legal secretary business. My feeling is that if we are feeling the pinch, other offices must be, too. I own a building with a vacant commercial office, so I'm thinking of taking advantage of that fact. Health insurance with be the kicker. However, I have another month or so at my present job, so I have some time to research and do a mailing to local attorney's offices and check insurance rates thru the local Chambers of Commerce, etc.
Morning {{Cyn}} and {{fade}}
3rd day with a brutal cold I got from slobbering with my grandkids! It was worth it !
Cyn, I meant to tell you how sorry I was to read of your layoff ! Let me know if I can help in any way.
Hope everyone's New Year is a healthy one.
BTW,. anyone have any lists yet, of who is up for re-election this November 2007? Is Snow of ME up this year, or in 2008? I want to see that ridiculous ole bitch go down!
Good Grief I'm tired of the wall to wall coverage of Ford. By pardoning Nixon he allowed the crimes to go unpunished and allowed Bush 1 the excuse to pardon all the criminals from Reagan's Administration. He was basically appointed to the Presidency was never elected to even a state wide position. He doesn't deserve all the accolades being bestowed upon him by the compliant right wing media. Besides the pardon what did he actually do that warrants the love-fest being played out on tv and newspapers? '76 was my first election cycle and I voted independent and at eighteen I was not the sharpest knife in the cabinet. Even at that tender young age I could see the incompetance in American politics...why can't supposededly mature and informed citizens see what I saw even then?
Ford was also too timid and too good a republican to speak out against all the abuses Bush has committed until he died. What a waste.
Cyn,
Anthem Blue Cross offers individual health plans, and if you don't mind a large deductible (and look into an HSA through a bank), you can insure for just the 'biggies". Your current plan will offer either COBRA or a conversion feature. (both expensive)
That sounds like a great idea, to be an 'outside consultant' to small Legal offices. I know people that do that for Medical offices, doing their typing. You could offer Research and other services necessary, but time consuming to these offices.
A good article by Richard Clarke, on all of the areas left undone by this administration because of the time and effort and dollars spent on Iraq!
While You Were at War . . .
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/29/AR2006122901238.html
wldj,
the disregard was bipartisan
{{{Pam}}} worth it, indeed! rest up and let's get busy--love your attitude.
off to watch timmy press the meat
Morning, Pam. Thanks for the great suggestions! Health insurance is my main problem and Cobra will be approx. $1,000 per month - too much for me to pay. I'll check out Anthem. That's what I'm looking for. I can pay for the small stuff, but need an insurance with a larger deductible for anything major. When I think how much has been paid to my present MVP plan and what we've actually used, it makes me sick. I guess I should just be glad we didn't have any major health problems.
Cyn,
check with your ins. agent, to see if any other carriers also sell medical insurance.
Also, call your current carrier, ask about thier Conversion Option, if any. It allows you to switch to an individual plan with them if they have it available.
Once you have your own business established, and join the Chamber of Commerce, etc, you may find more favorable plans on a 1 person group plan.
Talk to Jen about also starting a Medical typing practice, also. You pick up their tapes and then drop off their correspondence,etc. You just need to learn their terminology.
Fade...Very good article by Clarke,..thx for posting it...
Pam, I worked for an OB-GYN for a year so a little familiar with medical terminology - I will contact Jen for her input.
Many thanks. It never ceases to amaze me - the generosity and collective experience of this blog. :-) You guys are great.
Cyn_NY....Good morning...you never know what it might lead to when you start your own business...you may be far more sucessful than you now think...go for it!!!
so much for the little story that Hussein had posted on the internet, a plea for Iraqis to get along and to not blame the USA!!!
On the Gallows, Curses for US and "Traitors"
By Marc Santora
The New York Times
Sunday 31 December 2006
Baghdad - Saddam Hussein never bowed his head, until his neck snapped.
His last words were equally defiant.
"Down with the traitors, the Americans, the spies and the Persians."
On the Gallows, Curses for US and "Traitors"
By Marc Santora
The New York Times
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Good mornin to Pam, Cyn_NY, goodfoe, wldj, fade2bluz and other Dems out there.
To note, I disagree with capital punishment even for a monster such as Hussein.
But, to make matters worst, it was truly awful how this execution was handled. Taunting Hussein with Shiite pro-Sadr rhetoric is going to inflame the Sunni.
Also note that we are approaching 3,000 dead. There are vigils planned throughout the nation.
From the American Friends Service Committee:
Oii, what a terrible panel on Meat The Press - William Saffire and Kato Burn together, that's bad. Eugene Robinson is pretty good.
Good morning Fighting Dem's....
Mr. Bush has indicated from his ranch in Crawford that he wants an "'economic package" for Iraq for short term jobs, etc. Mr. Bush has had 4 years to do this. He had no real plan for the occupation. It's a little late to be proposing this "economic' package, not to mention that under his oversight hundreds of millions of dollars have been lost, stolen, with no accountability...
Newfoe, there was already a $21 billion aid package but it was al squandered in Bush-campaign favorites boondoggles....$9 billion of cash given to Haliburton is unaccounted for according to MSNBC. We were IMPORTING THird world foreign cheap labor while Iraqis suffered 80% unemployment. Cheney and Rumsfeld bare full blame for that and Bush nust be charged with criminal negligence...First impeach Cheney, the Bush. It will give us two years to get used to an haute couture president lady!
Dems must debate the issues and never let the history fade in disgust. We have to sift through all the Bushit and reconstitute how he and his pals ATE America!
Bush must face the justice of Congress before that of History!
I heard at least two pundits on the MSM say that Dems are going along with an escaltion in troop levels. But, neither pundit defended this statement with actual facts.
It's true that Reid did make a statement about going along with a 2-3 month surge but he then withdrew that statement. Naturally, the lazy MSM did not report the change of opinion.
As far as I know leading Senate Dems are against escalating the troop levels. Biden, Kerry, Clinton, Levin, Feingold in the Senate are all on record as opposing an increase in troop levels. I refuse to count Lieberman as a Democrat though he claims he will caucus with Dems.
It's worth pushing back against this mindless MSM rhetoric. The only way I know of doing it is writing LTE's.
It appears that, including Iraqi citizens, Mr. Bush
has succeeded in killing over 600,000 people. I would hope that we would not go into the new year the way we are leaving the old year. It looks like Mr. Bush is determined to send a surge of more troops into Iraq, the question being how many. What ever number it is, it will be a blood bath and with more American deaths, Mr. Bush will not be able to serve out the balance of his term in office. The American people will not allow it. MORE TROOPS INTO IRAQ AND YOU CAN KISS YOUR PRESIDENSY GOODBY MR BUSH!!!!!!!!
Ex-Maine Lawmaker Plans Anti-War Offensive
By Bart Jansen
The Portland Press Herald
Thursday 28 December 2006
Mr. Bush will not be able to serve out the balance of his term in office.
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goodfoe, that works for me. A psychiatrist wrote today that it would be good for the mental state of this nation to separate itself from Cheney/Bush. The people of this country are suffering from "battered citizen" syndrome. Never has a President done more to damage the collective spirit of a country. And it's not all in our heads. When you consider that we are spending 8 billion per month on Iraq, that's money that should be spend on domestic needs - health care, education, jobs, environment, etc...
And don't even get me started on the assault on our civil liberties, the never ending signing statements and a president who considers himself to be above the law.
rjsnj....Nixon thought he was above the law...he barely escaped...there won't be a pardon this time...the American people won't allow that either...Nixon did not have to contend with the power of the internet...Bush does and he will not escape...more troops in Iraq and you'll be able to stick a fork in Bush, he'll be done!!!
Nixon thought he was above the law...he barely escaped...there won't be a pardon this time...
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goodfoe, the disgusting truth came out that Ford's pardon of Nixon was because he was tricky dicky's friend! All the talk of "healing" was just more Republican political bunk. I have judiciously avoided the eulogizing of Ford and will continue to do so.
Actually, I think that you can stick a fork in the Republican party if Dumbya increases the violence in Iraq as well as the useless spending.
Even though I would welcome even more political gains in 2008, I still want this occupation to end now for the sake of the troops, the Iraqi people and the economic future of our country.
Check out these disturbing articles in truthout:
December Deadliness month:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/123006D.shtml
Pentagon to request billions more:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/123006C.shtml
US Death toll nears 3000
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/122906A.shtml
Euro to overtake dollar:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/122806E.shtml
Fringe economy:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/122906E.shtml
What we are seeing is a spiritual, moral, social and economic meltdown in this country. Iraq is at the center of it all.
For the powers that be on this blog, is it possible to have a new thread for the New Year?
This is getting just a bit slow even on a high speed link.
rjsnj...your posts are on the money...watching the ball game...bbl
Afternoon, ALL!
Well, Chimpy did it. As of about an hour ago the casualty count hit 3,000
Hello-
While reading through an Article of special intrest to me, I was chilled at the similaraties to modern America that I found through-out.
Read it if you want, and if you do read it, please try to recall Abu-Ghraib, the New US "Emergency" Detention Facilities, Extrordinary Renditions and the recent ICE raids.
Remember Habeus Corpus, The Open Government Act, Illegal Taps, and all those things as well.
And I Hope and Pray that as this year ends, we wake up before History Finishes what it's already sarted to repeat.
Iraq violence continues in wake of Saddam's death
An Iraqi man cries out standing next to a destroyed car at the site of a bomb explosion in Kufa, 160 kilometers (100 miles) south of Baghdad.
Read more >
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20061231/iraq_violence_061231/20061231?hub=World
A look back to Abu Ghraib Prisoner abuse scandal
as 2006 comes to a close.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/iraq/bal-prisonerabuse,0,382271.storygallery?coll=bal-iraq-storyutil
OMG, they released the name of #3,000, and he's from the same town as "goodfoe".
Why don't you experiment with the 2 techniques and report back in about NEVER.
Where was Osama on September 11, 2001?
by Michel Chossudovsky
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20060909&articleId=3194
Happy New Year everyone. Be safe, don't drink and drive. May 2007 be a year of blessings to all.
God bless and peace to all reading this. :-)
Good afternoon, Friends!
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
:)
And hello to you FOS. Was just coming on to put out a little proud news.
Happy New Year ALL!!
FOS, the Pukers STILL have a chance to make it to the playoffs if there are 8 UNLIKELY UPSETS today.
Good afternoon to everyone else.
Just a little boastful pride here. The marching bands of one of our HBCU's (Historically Black Colleges & Universities) will be performing in the 2007 Super Bowl in Feb!
"The Marching 100" of Florida A & M University (FAMU) has been specifically requested by Prince who will also be performing. We have always been proud of our Marching Rattlers. They can put on a show.
DPD,
That website requires registration. Let me check out the stats elsewhere . I'll be back.
;p
Hi, J.
:)
DPD, It's moved to 7:15 pm. Don't you worry though, the Green Bay Packers are going "Bear Huntin"
You Betcha!
;p
They need those 8 upsets AND beat the Bears to get a playoff berth. Right now it's Detroit 39 -- Dallas 31, so we'll see what shakes down in a few minutes.
Here's the scenario: In ADDITION to beating the Bears:
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(All eight outcomes would be upsets, according to published spreads. Here's what must happen):
- Detroit, 12 1/2-point underdog, must win at Dallas.
- Miami, 9-point underdog, must win at Indianapolis.
- Minnesota, 2 1/2-point underdog, must beat St. Louis.
- Carolina, 3-point favorite, must lose at New Orleans.
- Houston, 4 1/2-point favorite, must lose to Cleveland.
- Tampa Bay, 3-point favorite, must lose to Seattle.
- Arizona, 14-point underdog, must win at San Diego.
- San Francisco, 10-point underdog, must win at Denver.
DPD at 3:16...if you read my post at 7:38 this morning you will know just how angry I was about this war this morning. It seems like we have been having 1,2 and sometimes 3 funerals per week in the greater Houston area..The death of Spc. Dustin R. Donica 22 of my hometown of Spring, Texas is too much.The fact that this young man was number 3000 only reinforces my determination that this war must stop now....Are we going to waite until it's 4000 or 5000 while Bush trys to bail out his failed presedency by throwing more of our children unto this slaughteer?
DPD,
Okay. I get it now. I'll be back. I'm trying to locate the brand new Black/White video of SH's Execution. Does anyone know where that link is?
Probably Freeperville, or Little Brained Snotballs. Michelle Malkin might have a "party video" made up.
I can see it now, that skinny odd looking Martian wearing Go-Go boots and hosting "Swingin' Like A Sunni".(tm)
gregg, you must see Tony Auth's 'toon in today's WP.
Posted by DPD on December 31, 2006 at 05:10 PM
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I found it. I just had to see for myself. Like a car wreck I spose. Anyways, that was really wierd.
So, how are you DPD ?
As bad as hussein was, he was better for Iraq than GWB and Company!!
3000 US boys dead, 22,500 injured for this man. Was it worth it??? I think not!
"The new Iraq appears capable of inflicting only more of the abuse it suffered for so long, perpetuating it with overwhelming brutality. People disappear in the night. Bodies with drill holes surface in trash heaps. Government forces moonlight as killing squads.
As vicious as he was, Mr. Hussein also held the country firmly together. Beyond military control, there was a subtle social glue: Iraqis of all sects loved to hate Saddam together. Now that he is gone, Shiites are afraid to joke with Sunnis about him, and Sunnis feel they are being blamed for his crimes.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/31/world/middleeast/31voices.html?ref=todayspaper
Good, FOS. Just getting ready to pull the Fondue pots out for the shindig tonight.
Howdy, Pam! EVERYONE with 2 functioning brain cells knew what was going to happen. It's just like when Tito shuffled off this mortal coil. Only back then we had a President who wasn't insane.
Will Bush and company attempt to explain why it was not proven in a court of law that Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons to kill innocent Iraqis? How about proving in a court of law that he supported terrorists who were or are a significant threat to the United States?
It was absolutely necessary that Saddam be tried and convicted of all the actions used to justify our invasion. Our president's actions in Iraq will now be questioned by nations around the globe and by individuals here in America. Bush has made yet another major blunder.
He was tried on the lesser of all charges so as to speed his death, and to keep him from blabbing about the Bush Crime Family and Cheney and his Bestest Friend Forever
Have fun at the tailgate party DPD, because, it might be the only fun you have tonight. Seeing that ya'll are about to get your bootays handed to ya!
Go, Pack, Go!
;p
marine,
Saddam was introduced to anthrax and chemical weapons and the mfg of them, by the USA! In the 80's, the US were only too happy to give him weapons of all types, plus money so he would battle Iran. The fact that he used them on the Kurds in his own country, well the Reagan, Bush I, Rumsfeld, etc all turned the other cheek ! So this is why they will not dig down too deeply on the atrocities that Hussein did.
PamB,
You know what? I have had it with these War Mongering Cowards like John Mc Cain. I'm glad you posted the injured as well because I'm sick of them being ignored and taken for granted. You know? The Pro-War freaks have the nerve to say stuff like;
"Oh, well. We lost most troops in the other wars than we did this one."
That burns my soul so bad. I feel like slapping the crap of them because first of all, modern technology and second of all, sure they aren't being killed , but they come back with no arms and legs or messed up in the head so, I mean , what's their point?
PamB, We have to end the funding for this thing.
I ain't going anywhere tonight. Some peeps are coming over. It's nut case night, especially around Soldier Field, where the game will be @ 7:15, but the 'Family Friendly Fireworks" starts at 7. (Iguess the fireworks will be wearing bras). THEN, when the game ends 68,000 drunks will be leaving the Stadium just in time for the Midnight fireworks on the Lakefront. The cops are P-O'd at the NFL for screwing with the starting time. They are expecting a million people down there. NO. Thank. YOU.
Posted by DPD on December 31, 2006 at 05:34 PM
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Hey, just don't try to beat us up when we win okay?
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FOS,
When they show the pictures of those guys with no legs, or their groins blown off, blind, life altering injuries, I feel sick. How about those we don't see, with head injuries that have turned them into comatose bodies.
And Bush, cheney, rumsfeld, McCain, Lieberman all want to say it is worth it!!! SO EASY to say when it is not their sons !
I wish for once, Democratic leaders would quit being so afraid that the Repugs will call them anti-troops , and they would say NO MORE MONEY, BRING THEM HOME NOW!!!!!
This is for goodfoe if he is out there right now. I have a followup to the writeup on the Bush Family/Latin American connection. Things are not as well as they would like, but there also isn't alot of info.
Still diggin'.
America went to the polls and voted Democrat on November 7, 2006 because they have had enough of the current course of action and hoped that Democrats might provide the necessary change. Those who fail to act accordingly are betraying the Americans who voted for them, which is far worse than allowing Republicans to call them the same names they've been calling them for years now. These Americans did not vote because they hoped that Democrats might go along with an escalation of violence in Iraq.
It's obvious that some Americans would like to salvage whatever they may of our operations inside Iraq. Those seeking further agression at this time also happen to have tied their our political careers to success in Iraq. In other words, these men care not for America's interests but for their own political lives in supporting a surge of troop strength in Iraq.
What's worse is that we have no more combat ready troops to send Iraq than we have already provided. Those who would be sent in the event of a surge are reservists, members of the national guard, and newly recruited members of the armed forces. They lack not just combat experience but the fundamental communication skills inherant in every Iraqi. Iraq's personnel, who have as much knowledge of combat as our reserves do, are therefore better suited to such a mission.
Posted by PamB on December 31, 2006 at 05:40 PM
Do you know the count of women that are a part of the 3000 dead? (I don't) How many women serving in Iraq and Afghanistan have been injured in this war?
What is the real number of Iraqi's dead? Just think of those families that are no longer. Children without one or both of their parents. Sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers all dead or injured as well.
George W Bush, Dick Cheney, Condaleeza Rice, and Donald Rumsfeld should be held accountable and brought to justice. Hanging would be too good for them. This new congress needs to stop funding this war, investigate, and impeach.
U.S. deaths in Iraq reach 3,000
The Pentagon announced the death of a Texas soldier on Sunday, raising the number of U.S. military deaths in Iraq to at least 3,000 since the war began, according to an Associated Press count. Full Story:
wish for once, Democratic leaders would quit being so afraid that the Repugs will call them anti-troops , and they would say NO MORE MONEY, BRING THEM HOME NOW!!!!!
Posted by PamB on December 31, 2006 at 05:40 PM
They need to show pictures of that on the floor of the House and Senate to wake the American people up to reality and put an end to this nonsense. We are going to end up with an entire Generation of disabled people. The Bush Administration is killing off an entire generation of young people because they can't have kids when they are all messed up like that.
Noone in Congress seems to care, but you know what? Feingold and Kagen are gonna hear about it after the 4th and I will keep on them untill I get a response too.
New Saddam video reveals taunts at execution
http://euronews.net/create_html.php?page=detail_info&article=398640&lng=1#
THIS BETTER BE TRUE! OR ELSE!
Dems might block funds for Iraq war By EVAN LEHMANN, Reformer Washington BureauFriday, December 29
SNIP:
WASHINGTON -- Fearing President Bush is poised to escalate the Iraq war, several New England Democrats said they will support spending restrictions to block a potential troop surge, or even leverage a withdrawal.
It is a challenging maneuver that could crosscut the promises of their incoming Democratic leaders to financially support the administration's war plan while simultaneously calling on the president to reduce the United States' presence in Iraq.Moreover, the attempts to design spending roadblocks are muddied by divisions within a Democratic Party leery two years before a presidential election of losing its new and narrow majority by appearing soft on terrorism and against the troops, lawmakers and analysts say.
Still, several New England lawmakers expressed frustration with reports that Bush might stream up to 30,000 troops into Iraq. The lawmakers said they would support attempts to employ congressional purse powers to block any move toward enlarging the U.S. footprint in a country descending toward civil war.
Others said they would try to cut funding altogether, with or without the surge
lav,
I have not seen them break down the female vs male number of dead nor injured US troops. I guess they are afraid to !
Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article15266.htm
FOS,
The Democrats became so used to being whipped over the last 12 years of Republican majority, they have to re-grow those cahones and take a stand on this Illegal occupation. My Senator Dodd (who is out there feeling out a 08 Presidential run) is for bringing them home NOW, but my other senator is Lieberman, who was once again on CNN late edition today, saying we have to send some more boys in! (Not HIS son, understand, just everyone else's!) I have nothing but contempt for this POS, and I shall continue watching every single breath he takes!
I wish for once, Democratic leaders would quit being so afraid that the Repugs will call them anti-troops , and they would say NO MORE MONEY, BRING THEM HOME NOW!!!!!
Posted by PamB on December 31, 2006 at 05:40 PM
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Exactly why it's important to spread the word around the mandate for peace march January 27, 2007. The more people that show up the better.
Join CODEPINK and many others in a national march to D.C. on January 27-29, to send a strong, clear message to Congress and the Bush Administration: The people of this country want the war and occupation in Iraq to end and we want the troops home now! Enough is enough.
http://www.codepink4peace.org/article.php?list=type&type=185
Start 2007 off with a clear, strong message by contacting your Representatives and Senators. Tell them you demand they end the Iraq war and bring our troops home now. See links below and be sure to take action.
Through their votes on November 7th, the American people made their feelings well known. Now it's time for President Bush to listen and work with the new Democratic Congress to begin withdrawing our troops from Iraq. And we can't let up until he does. Please sign Senator Barbara Boxer's petition in the link below:
Contact majority House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to let her know you want the Iraq war to end now. The more people she hears from the more she will be able to fight Republicans because she can say hey, look at all these people writing saying they want the Iraq war to end now. Do it today. Take action by clicking on link below.
Dem KA,
I sent my comments to Pelosi. also told her we want impeachment hearings brought up on Bush and Cheney, for what they have done to our country.
Are YOU going to the anti-war march???
the idiot in chief mulling over what to do in Iraq!
WASHINGTON - American deaths in the Iraq war reached the sobering milestone of 3,000 on Sunday even as the Bush administration sought to overhaul its strategy for an unpopular conflict that shows little sign of abating.
The latest death came during one of the most violent periods during which the Pentagon says hate and revenge killings between Iraq's sects are now a bigger security problem than ever.
The death of a Texas soldier, announced Sunday by the Pentagon, raised the number of U.S. military deaths in Iraq to at least 3,000, according to an Associated Press count, since the war began in March 2003.
President Bush is struggling to salvage a military campaign that, more than three-and-a-half years after U.S. forces overran the country, has scant support from the American public. In large part because of that discontent, voters gave Democrats control of the new Congress that convenes this week. Democrats have pledged to focus on the war and Bush's conduct of it.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061231/ap_on_re_us/us_iraq_american_deaths
And, of course the wing-nuts will be "claiming" that the fact that we are making note of this "milestone in Prince Georgie's little hormone surge" proves that we "hate the troops, and are happy for each death just to make the alcoholic crack head look bad".
More death = Dems happy.
AWOL Alky crack head = "GREATEST MANLY MAN EVER"!
Wing nuts = CHICKENSHIT PUSSIES!
Posted by FreedomOfSpeechForBarackObama2008 on December 31, 2006 at 04:12 PM Don't you worry though, the Green Bay Packers are going "Bear Huntin"
Grrrrrrrrrr
PamB,
Liebermann's NOT your Senator anymore.
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Grrrrrrrrrr
Posted by dorsano on December 31, 2006 at 07:13 PM
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J,
If you're out there , I wrote you back. It might take a while because this Blog is sort of funny that way, but I wrote you back.
:)
Happy New Years Eve, everyone.
Hope you are looking forward to our new majority in Congress, 100 hour agenda, and the investigations.
It seems a lot of Americans aren't expecting much, so anything we can do will seem like a miracle after six years of being told how much progress has been made for the wealthy....while we wait for it to trickle down to us.
Here's one of those end of year/new years mood polls with the customary predictions:
AP Poll Finds Worries About 2007, 1 in 4 Expect Second Coming of JesusPublished: December 31, 2006 12:00 PM ET
NEW YORK Another terrorist attack, a warmer planet, death and destruction from a natural disaster. These are among Americans' grim predictions for the United States in 2007.
But on a brighter note, only a minority of people think the U.S. will go to war with Iran or North Korea over the countries' nuclear ambitions. An overwhelming majority thinks Congress will raise the federal minimum wage. A third sees hope for a cure to cancer.
These are among the findings of an Associated Press-AOL News poll that asked Americans to gaze into their crystal balls and contemplate what 2007 holds for the country.
Six in 10 people think the U.S. will be the victim of another terrorist attack next year, more than five years after the Sept. 11 assault on New York and Washington. An identical percentage think it is likely that bad guys will unleash a biological or nuclear weapon elsewhere in the world.
There is plenty of gloom to accompany all of that doom.
Seventy percent of Americans predict another major natural disaster within the United States and an equal percentage expect worsening global warming. Fewer than one-third of people, or 29 percent, think it is likely that the U.S. will withdraw its troops from Iraq.
Among other predictions for the U.S. in 2007:
-- Slightly more than one-third, or 35 percent, of Americans predict the military draft will be reinstated.
-- One in four, 25 percent, anticipates the second coming of Jesus Christ.
The telephone poll of 1,000 adults was conducted Dec. 12-14 by Ipsos, an international polling firm. The margin of sampling error was plus or minus three percentage points.
I predict that Jesus will be born a Buddist this time around.
Calling Out The Members Of Congress!
Force your member of Congress to go on record with a position on de-funding Iraq!
DKA....Sent the e-mail to Pelosi, copy of my 7:38 AM post...I will send more
J...saw your post, got anything new on the land deal?
Sorry, FOS So far only 2 of the 9 NECESSARY UPSETS have come through, and the Pack is GONE, BABY!!
(Bunch of NON-UPSETS, though).
Sorry, DeLL, too.
Have a HAPPY NEW YEAR anyway, and remember that the Pitchers and Catchers report to Spring Training in February, about 10 days after the Super Bowl.
But, just to make your spirits soar, I AM A CUBS FAN...
(And THIS the year they GO ALL THE WAY, BAY-BEE!!)
Any team can have a bad Century.
Sorry, FOS So far only 2 of the 9 NECESSARY UPSETS have come through, and the Pack is GONE, BABY!!
Didn't we already talk about this? I don't care. I ain't no Packer Fan. I don't even know what you're talking about or understand because Foot Ball is for MEN and is meant to not make a lick of sense!
;p
It don't hurt me none because I don't know what upsets and 2 and 9 means in the first place.(BABY)
Speak English.
LOL
O.K., Game time. It's a frigid 51 degrees on New Years Eve in Downtown Chicago........
(HUH????)
(HUH????)
Posted by DPD on December 31, 2006 at 08:07 PM
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Good evening
As I travel through my research of Latin America, Central America and the Carribean consistently keep cropping up. To add insult to injury it is always an enlightening revelation of how the US government played a major part in breaking up a government or disposing of a leader which in turn often brings great suffering and misery to the poorest of whatever nation or country that is a chosen target.
Nowhere is this more evident than in the country of Haiti. This island has had political instability, economic disaster, and just basic rule of the thugs from the days of "Papa Doc", the death squads that have slaughtered hundreds of thousands in the dead of the night, a military/police that have not a clue as to what law enforcement is other than to kill and to the gangs that are now kidnapping children for ransoms and killing them.
The US has played major roles in this country's governmental upheavals, economic status, training of death squads (yes, training), and now the roving gangs which in actuality are deported Haitians that have lived in the US and learned sophisticated gangfare. Whenever it suited their purpose the US got rid of a Haitian president. When the world became aware of the atrocities of Papa Doc and his dictatorship with the Ton Ton and their sweeps in the night to all that remotely opposed his tyranny, he and his family were wisked into the night to a safe location (France?). The first elected President, Jean-Bertrand Aristide suffered the same fate in 1991 and 2000. Both times escorted from his country by US military. The second coup that disposed Aristide was orchstrated by the Bush administration in which he was flown from the country by US military aircraft in handcuffs. Within days of his removal from Haiti, Aristide spoke by smuggled cell phone to Rep. Maxine Waters and Rep. Charles Rangel and described in detail of his ouster and the US role in removing him from the presidency. Aristide never stood a chance in either presidency because he did not have the support system of personnel to assist with the massive poverty and entrenched corruption riddled through out the nation. The US saw to that.
Now the country has sunken even deeper into a criminal state that is in virtual chaos. The same problems that have always plagued the island over the centuries still continue today. Poverty is overwhelming, there is no economy and the current president has no control of what is going on with the police or military. The gangs are uncontrollable due to inside and outside influence. There are many that want the chaotic state to remain for other criminal activities such as drugs in the Carribean region.
In the meantime, the impoverished people of this country continue to go unnoticed and uncared for and in a state of fear.
Now the country has sunken even deeper into a criminal state that is in virtual chaos. The same problems that have always plagued the island over the centuries still continue today. Poverty is overwhelming, there is no economy.
When the US labeled Haitian refugees as "economic" and not "political" in the early 80's when they arrived as the "boat people", so many wondered if this policy did not smack of racism when Cuban refugees came running from the exact same type oppression - political/economic yet were welcomed with open arms.
goodfoe, no nothing new on the land deal yet. Need to go through some more reading, but I did post something on Haiti. With the Latin America reading, it just kept popping up how the US had taken the entire southern hemisphere as it's playground to rearrange as it pleases.
DPD,
I believe they just showed a polar bear floating by on the Chicago River on a chunk of that Artic ice island.
Those Polar Bear folks that jump in Lake Michigan each New Year's Day when it's all shivery and cold might be having some company from the northern reaches this year.
I can see those polar bears now wearing bikinis and sunglasses. Welcome to global warming.
N/S, Sandy. It's usually 51 BELOW with the wind chill. Those Speedo clad "Polar Bears" who jump in the lake every January 1st can keep swimming, as far as they want. They're NUTS! This year they'll need some Coppertone.
Posted by J on December 31, 2006 at 08:24 PM
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I remember something I saw on the news a long time ago that had my parents really ticked off at Bill Clinton. I saw news footage of Blacks on Small Boats with US Military standing on the beach with guns drawn. Is that what you are talking about? What was that about?
Surge? Fusion? It's not even 2007 yet and the pop culture is throwing out their new catch phrases for the new year.
Localities Operate Intelligence Centers To Pool Terror Data'Fusion' Facilities Raise Privacy Worries As Wide Range of Information Is Collected
By Mary Beth Sheridan and Spencer S. Hsu
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, December 31, 2006Frustrated by poor federal cooperation, U.S. states and cities are building their own network of intelligence centers led by police to help detect and disrupt terrorist plots.
The new "fusion centers" are now operating in 37 states, including Virginia and Maryland, and another covers the Washington area, according to the Department of Homeland Security. The centers, which have received $380 million in federal support since the 2001 terrorist attacks, pool and analyze information from local, state and federal law enforcement officials...
...But the emerging model of "intelligence-led policing" faces risks on all sides. The centers are popping up with little federal leadership and training, raising fears of overzealousness such as that associated with police "red squads" that spied on civil rights and peace activists decades ago.
The centers also face practical obstacles that could limit their effectiveness, including a shortage of money, skilled analysts, and proven relationships with the FBI and Homeland Security.
Still, the centers are emerging as a key element in a sometimes chaotic new domestic intelligence infrastructure, which also includes homeland security units in local police forces and 103 FBI-led terrorism task forces, triple the number that existed before the Sept. 11 attacks...
//www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/30/AR2006123000238.html?referrer=email
This has to be the scariest and dumbest development yet from the folks that gave us WMD in Iraq and Katrina here at home. I have a feeling nobody is going to be sparred in this new age of GOP led Inquesitions...and it's going to cost us a fortune.
How many no-bid, privatized companies owned by Republicans are being hired by local and state governments to set up these "fusion" centers. Why do I think Bernard Kerric might have a hand in this this new wave of hysteria?
Well, good evening. I'm off to celebrate the Brave New World of the coming 2007 with family and friens. See you next year, if I'm not picked up as a possible terrorist sympathizer.
Happy New Year.
there is a nice little song here that reminds of who were got rid of in 2006:
from Riverbend
Sunday, December 31, 2006
A Lynching...
It's official. Maliki and his people are psychopaths. This really is a new low. It's outrageous- an execution during Eid. Muslims all over the world (with the exception of Iran) are outraged. Eid is a time of peace, of putting aside quarrels and anger- at least for the duration of Eid.
This does not bode well for the coming year. No one imagined the madmen would actually do it during a religious holiday. It is religiously unacceptable and before, it was constitutionally illegal. We thought we'd at least get a few days of peace and some time to enjoy the Eid holiday, which coincides with the New Year this year. We've spent the first two days of a holy holiday watching bits and pieces of a sordid lynching.
America the savior… After nearly four years and Bush's biggest achievement in Iraq has been a lynching. Bravo Americans.
from Riverbend
Sunday, December 31, 2006
A Lynching...
It's official. Maliki and his people are psychopaths. This really is a new low. It's outrageous- an execution during Eid. Muslims all over the world (with the exception of Iran) are outraged. Eid is a time of peace, of putting aside quarrels and anger- at least for the duration of Eid.
This does not bode well for the coming year. No one imagined the madmen would actually do it during a religious holiday. It is religiously unacceptable and before, it was constitutionally illegal. We thought we'd at least get a few days of peace and some time to enjoy the Eid holiday, which coincides with the New Year this year. We've spent the first two days of a holy holiday watching bits and pieces of a sordid lynching.
America the savior… After nearly four years and Bush's biggest achievement in Iraq has been a lynching. Bravo Americans.
I remember something I saw on the news a long time ago that had my parents really ticked off at Bill Clinton. I saw news footage of Blacks on Small Boats with US Military standing on the beach with guns drawn. Is that what you are talking about? What was that about?
Posted by FreedomOfSpeechForBarackObama2008 on December 31, 2006 at 08:34 PM
The Clinton administrtion is also guilty of giving Haiti some hard times. During his administration the World Bank was persuaded by the US not to give Haiti a much need loan package in the millions of dollars.
Really, I think that THIS is the video that gregg was trying to link to.
J and goodfoe~ the mystery continues to unfold First, The Chaco, which accounts for about 60% of the territory, is home to less than 2% of the population. Keep this in mind as you take a look at these two tidbits, from the same day.
Chaco Resources, the oil and gas explorer in Paraguay and Colombia announces that Ecopetrol, the Operator of the Platanillo Block in Colombia has obtained approval from the ANH to amalgamate Years 1 & 2 of the Platanillo E&P contract. This amalgamation was sought due to new environmental regulations in Colombia which had caused delays in environmental licencing for the access road and drill site which would have resulted in the Operator not being able to complete the Year 1 work obligation by the anniversary date of January 10th, 2007. The amalgamation of Years 1 & 2 now requires that the re-entry of Alea 1, the drilling of Platanillo 1 appraisal well and the drilling of a second appraisal well need to be finished before the end of the second permit year on Jan 10th, 2008.
Technical Director Graeme Stephens said today "This ruling is good news for the joint venture as it will now allow the Operator, Ecopetrol, to plan and implement a logical operations programme that accommodates the recently imposed environmental requirements for site access, without having to resort to the very expensive helicopter supported operation which would otherwise have been needed to try to meet the timing deadline. Early Joint Venture meetings are planned to review the Operator's new timetable for the re-entry of Alea 1, the drilling of Platanillo 1 and the drilling of an additional appraisal well, and details will be released as soon as this timetable is finalised."
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Northern Paraguay Cut-Off for Months
Asuncion, Dec 27 (Prensa Latina) Inhabitants of the communities of the emblematic Paraguayan Chaco have been living a nightmare for months because of impassable roads, leaving the river and air the only means of access.
ABC Color newspaper accused Paraguayan authorities of never carrying out serious reparations of the routes despite the allocation of millions of dollars to that end.
Hundreds of the 15,000, mostly indigenous population, are forced to risk travel in obsolete precarious boats to cross the river, the daily pointed out.
Due to lack of communication and the impossibility to accede to the northern Alto Paraguay Department, the Executive decided to restart emergency Military Air Transport flights after 10 years without operating in the region.
The government initiative, the diary regretted, will be in effect only during the Christmas season.
oh, and here is the file on the land purchase, if you want to save one.
you know there is a bishop (former bishop?) who wants to be the new president. he is an advocate for the poor, which is the majority of the people.
The bishop, 55, from northern San Pedro diocese, one of the poorest regions in Paraguay, renounced his vocation in a letter to Pope Benedict XVI yesterday, in order to constitutionally run for office. Should the ex prelate win in 2008, it would end the 51-year reign of the Colorado Party. According to a study of the Latin American Social panorama, 80 percent of Paraguayan land is in the hands of large estate owners.
soybeans, yes...that's another important issue. later, though
DPD, thank you. you are very helpful. even though your unnecessarily harsh comments about the Packers were totally uncalled for ;)
J....8;24...and 8:27....good work...thank you...
SandyH...I was concered about that for awhile but now the criminal element has to many other things to worry about...too many people are starting to speak out, they can't abduct and torture all of us...