Monday Morning Open Thread
Hope everyone saw the Bears win on Sunday! This is an open thread, talk amongst yourselves...
[Update by Tracy]: I knew Christy was going to hijack the open thread for sports stuff, and ignore the truly important news of the week, which is that Tuesday is a big day! Huge! One we've been waiting all year for! Something way better than the SOTU - Oscar nominations will be announced tomorrow morning bright and early! Discuss...
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Good morning again
Oh yeah, Super Bowl/Soul Bowl in awesome Miami!!!
Bears and Colts!
Still dancing
Hope your birthday was fun, Christy and Tracy.
Thanks for cleaning the troll droppings, too. What a nice clean blog ! :)
Morning all.
sorry to say I am not a football fan, was enough for me that my UCONN ladies played in Madison Sq. Garden and beat St. John's!
Good mornin Dems. Looking forward to seeing Fitz in action. How intent is he? What sleezy tricks do the Repugs have in their ammo box?
Good morning, everyone.
Emerging Grievances Within Party Likely to Test Pelosi
Beneath the resounding Democratic victories of the past two weeks, tensions have been growing between House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and many new committee chairmen and other members over her aggressive management style and her approach to the war, according to lawmakers and advisers.
Powerful committee chairmen have bridled at the California Democrat's decision to impose six-year term limits on them. Liberal Democrats say she is being too cautious in confronting President Bush on the war in Iraq. Rank-and-file Democrats say she erred in denying Republicans more say in the early legislation, making the speaker appear autocratic.
Good morning everyone! I was just watching Hilary's campaign chairman on the Today Show. I was already disappointed by her announcement this weekend, listening to that used car salesman surely didn't help.
Lobbyists find new Congress is open for business
Incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi terrified the oil industry late last year when she outlined her priorities for the new Democratic majorities in Congress. Within the first 100 hours, she promised, they would "roll back the multibillion-dollar subsidies for Big Oil."
Last week, however, when Pelosi (D-San Francisco) won House approval of the much-touted bill socking it to the oil companies, it turned out to be considerably less drastic than many in the industry originally feared. Out of an estimated $32 billion in subsidies and tax breaks that the oil companies are scheduled to receive over the next five years, the final House bill cut $5.5 billion.
Iran Plans to Conduct Missile War Games
Iran plans three days of military maneuvers, including short-range missile tests, beginning Sunday - its first since the U.N. Security Council imposed sanctions against it in late December, state-run television said.
"The elite Revolutionary Guards plans to begin a three-day missile maneuver on Sunday near Garmsar city," said the broadcast. The city is located in northern Iran on the edge of Kavir desert, about 60 miles southeast of Tehran.
Carter, Clinton Seek To Bring Together Moderate Baptists
Former presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton are leading an effort to forge dozens of small and medium-size, black and white Baptist organizations into a robust coalition that would serve as a counterweight to the conservative Southern Baptist Convention.
IF YOU LIVE IN FLORIDA GO HERE AND SIGN THIS PETITION SO WE CAN GET A PRO-CHOICE LICENSE PLATE.
http://www.ppaction.org/ct/F11oY6910SMt/
"GOOD NIGHT AND GOOD LUCK".
Attributes and Issues
On a personal level, majorities now say Bush is not a strong leader (once his claim to fame), 56 percent say he can't be trusted in a crisis (another onetime mainstay), most don't see him as honest, two-thirds don't think he understands their problems and nearly as many don't think he listens to others' views. Fifty-five percent say he has not made the country more secure, his focus since 9/11.
Bush's Personal Attributes
Today Career High Today Career High
Is a strong leader 45 % 75 %
Has made the country safer 44 65
Can be trusted in a crisis 42 65
Is honest and trustworthy 40 71
Listens to different viewpoints 36 49
Understands your problems 32 61
...40% of Americans think Pres. Bush is honest and only 32% thinks he understands our problems! It's about time people are waking up to all the lies and corruption of the Bush Administration. If ever there was a President who deserves to be impeached more than Bush I'd like to know who it was,it certainly wasn't Bill Clinton.
Since 9-11 Bush has broken Federal and International Laws non-stop. The Libby trial and the releasing of selected classified material which started it, is small stuff compared to intentionally torturing people and conducting warrantless searches. Abu Grahib and Guantanamo Bay are terrible blacks marks on American History and the Bush Administration should be ashamed of what they have done to America's standing in the world.
If the only way to stop Bush from screwing up our country any more is impeachment I say "Bring it on!".
peace
I wasn't able to get tickets but am still basking in the glow that Gore brings to Idaho today...
Al Gore returns to Idaho today with a different message, and he's not holding back. His widely talked-about slide show presentation is the heart of the 2006 documentary "An Inconvenient Truth" and is making waves around the world.
Gore's message must be resonating. More than 10,000 people snapped up every available seat in Boise State's Taco Bell Arena for tonight's talk about global warming, the keynote address for the Frank Church Institute's annual conference.
Good Morning, ALL!
Sen. John Warner (R-VA) will introduce a resolution today “making clear that he does not support the President on increasing the troop levels in Iraq” and calling escalation “a mistake,” CNN’s Dana Bash reports. Warner’s resolution will be cosponsored by Sens. Susan Collins (R-ME) and Ben Nelson (D-NE).
BREAKING: Sen. John Warner To Introduce Resolution Opposing Iraq Escalation
Bill Millers thoughts on the State of the Union
As we prepare for President Bush to make the State of the Union address we must take time to consider some of the topics he will most likely address.
The first and most important topic should be the “surge” in troops to Iraq. Our Democratic leaders need to emphasize that this increase will only bring our troop levels back to where they were TWO YEARS ago. It was not a winning plan then, and it still is not today. Increased troop levels will only help to increase the hatred for our country and our troops.
The second issue is health care. As one of the forty million plus without health insurance, I can tell you, not all the tax incentives in the world will help if one cannot afford the insurance in the first place. Our congress needs to work on a comprehensive health plan that is affordable to all. Many of the uninsured are hard working self-employed small business owners and the millions who no longer have insurance through their employment. However, when it comes to paying to keep oil in the furnace, or food on the table we have to cut somewhere. For me personally my medical insurance bill was the second largest cost in my household. With the rising cost of energy over the last few years, something had to be cut. My choices were to cut out my insurance or lose my home, or not be able to heat it during winter months. As I said, “A TAX INCENTIVE DOES NOT HELP IF YOU CAN’T AFFORD IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.” If the majority of industrialized nations in the world can provide healthcare for their citizens, why can’t the greatest country in history do so?
On oil independence, it is time that we put forth some real legislation demanding that the auto industry change mileage standards. Many of us have been reading and hearing about alternative engines and fuels for decades. We have to ask the hard question, why is advancement in these fields so slow?
Our Democratic leaders need to address the issues with a sincere conviction to help the millions of hard working American citizens in the middle class. As I speak with many people, we all seem to have one thing in common. We are all getting an ever-sinking feeling. Likewise, most do not believe that our congress will find the answers. I am asking our Democratic leaders to prove them wrong.
The chief executives of 10 major corporations, on the eve of the State of the Union address, urged President Bush on Monday to support mandatory reductions in climate-changing pollution and establish reductions targets.
Full Story:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/01/22/ceos.climate.ap/index.html
Bomb attacks kill 100 in Iraq
At least 100 people die in attacks on Baghdad and Baquba in one of Iraq's bloodiest days this year. Full Story:
upstate new york congressman to get in rush's shit:
Rep. believes Democratic media reform bill may prevent possible 'fascist' takeover of US media
Miriam Raftery
Published: Sunday January 21, 2007
Rep. Hinchey: New bill would break up media monopolies and restore fairness doctrine
Warns media reform critical to prevent 'end of democratic republic'
Concerns about monopolies and fears of a possible "fascist" takeover of the US media have prompted a Democratic congressman to push to restore the Fairness Doctrine, RAW STORY has learned.
"Media reform is the most important issue confronting our democratic republic and the people of our country," Representative Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) said at the Free Press National Media Reform Conference held in Memphis, Tennessee last weekend. "This is a critical moment in history that may determine the future of our country…maybe forever."
Hinchey told RAW STORY he plans to reintroduce the Media Ownership Reform Act (MORA) that would break up media monopolies and restore the Fairness Doctrine, which was eliminated by the Federal Communications Commission under the Reagan administration.
“If Rush shoots his mouth off, he must give equal access to our side,” Hinchey said. “The American public will begin to get both sides or all sides of an issue. That is basic – fundamental to a democracy.”
time has come today
I see Bush's Gestapo is still active:
BETHLEHEM, Pa. - An elderly man who wrote in a letter to the editor about Saddam Hussein's execution that "they hanged the wrong man" got a visit from Secret Service agents concerned he was threatening President Bush.
The letter by Dan Tilli, 81, was published in Monday's edition of The Express-Times of Easton, Pa. It ended with the line, "I still believe they hanged the wrong man."
Tilli said the statement was not a threat. "I didn't say who — I could've meant (Osama) bin Laden," he said Friday.
Two Secret Service agents questioned Tilli at his Bethlehem apartment Thursday, briefly searching the place and taking pictures of him, he said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070121/ap_on_re_us/letter_writer_threat
The educational system is in dis-array. The university system is financially out of reach for most Americans. A large percent of the population is without health care. ER's are closing down all over the country. The health care system is a failure. The rich get richer, and the middle and lower classes can't afford to own their own homes. You can't trust politicians, or the police. There is an overwhelming sense of hopelessness in the population; we all feel like we are living on the edge. But lets feed Iraq 1 trillion dollars instead of fixing our infrastructure, our healthcare and educational system. Let's let the president tread all over the constitution and steal our civil rights. Cower in your homes; like the scared little children you are, and maybe daddy bush will cuddle with you, and tell you everything will be all right. But for me, I want America to be great again, I want the rest of the world to look to America as a model of a nation of love and understanding for it's citizens and rest of the world. Not as the cultural elitist it has become.
It's time for a change, we need to show the president that we do not stand behind him, that he is not our dictator, that we put him in office (actually he stole the office) and we can take him out if we choose too. So I'm suggesting a protest; that on February 20th the day after we celebrate all the great presidents, for one hour, 4p.m. eastern time, we all lay down in the streets and "die" in protest to what this president is doing to our civil liberties, and to our great country.
I hear Governor Dean will be on the Bill Press show tomorrow, but I don't see anything at the site.
Also hear he was on Stephanie Miller recently.
Posted by sunny on January 22, 2007 at 02:08 PM
It wouldn't surprise me, he was on Ed Shultz last week. For the audio clip scroll down to 1-19-07.
Posted by IraqWarVeteran on January 22, 2007 at 01:06 PM
Here's a better way to reach Speaker Pelosi with your questions:
If you are a resident of the 8th district in CA, call 202-225-4965,
If you are not, email: americanvoices@mail.house.gov
Nancy doesn't blog here.
"Today--on the 34th anniversary of Roe v Wade--I have a request. Instead of writing about the legislation, the rhetoric, or the politics surrounding reproductive rights and justice, let's keep it simple. Let's just trust women.
Seems easy enough, I know. But given that over 30 years after Roe women are still fighting the same battles, maybe we need a remedial course.
Trust women to know what's best for themselves and their families
It's time to put to bed the bullshit stereotypes of women having abortions out of "convenience" or selfishness.
While waxing political about Roe is important, let's not forget that today is about women's lives--and no one is more of an expert in that than women themselves.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jessica-valenti/a-roe-resolution-_b_39252.html
{{Pam}}
I was listening to an NPR piece on the way back to work from lunch. What is it about right-wingers, I wonder, that they WILL NOT listen to anything like fact. If they have "facts", it's an absolutely safe bet they made them up.
I don't even want to know what kind of acid someone has to be on to believe that they can be simultaneously pro-war, pro-death-penalty, and still call themselves "pro-life". The terms are even at face-value mutually exclusive; at best, philosophically irreconcilable.
No sense trying to make sense of what crazy people do (where've I heard that before, heh)
Good Afternoon Dem's....a good day to carry the fight forward....
Schwarzenegger's Empty Health Plan
PROGRESSIVE VALUES
Senetor Robert C Bird holding forth on the floor of the Senate for the last 30 mins on the line item veto...C-span2...a real treat
The disappointment of seeing the Saints' impossible dream season was followed up by a real kick in the pants when my Pats ran out of steam and blew an 18-point lead to the Colts.
I was inconsolable until I saw the news that Bill Richardson announced this morning.
Please ignore the media. There are more than two candidates in the race this year.
Escalation Forces Bush to Resort to Recruiting Convicts
Brace yourself. Bush's Iraq escalation, euphemized as "surge," sends just over 20,000 more troops into that bottomless pit, and flirts with an invasion of Iran. But because Iraq has depleted our armed forces -- and recruitment levels plummet as our population wises up -- Bush's plan requires still more: the entire Army active-duty force must swell to 547,000 over the next five years (an increase of 39,000), and the Marine Corps grow by 23,000 (to 202,000).
Constitutionally, Congress must approve or disapprove the expansion -- but one never knows whether this particular executive branch recognizes that the legislative (or judicial) branches exist.
Meanwhile, Bush simply changes the rules to suit his mad plans, raising the enlistment age to 42, and removing the cumulative limit -- 24 months active duty in any five-year period -- for National Guard Reserve units.
Posted by BR08 on January 22, 2007 at 03:37 PM
Absolutely. The MSM trying to create a feeding frenzy over one candidate or another, or pit two candidates against each other is just idiotic and a complete waste of time. I'm ignoring all of it...cept for the smears of the swiftboaters and their ilk, they must be responded to.
US and EU making progress on WTO talks: official
US and European trade negotiators are making progress on a deal that could unblock troubled global trade talks, a US official said.
Big names in US journalism launch Politico web site
Several big names in US journalism are part of a new Internet-focused news organization being launched that will focus exclusively on politics as the 2008 elections approach.
The new venture formed by Allbritton Communications has a newspaper, The Politico, and a website, Politico.com, that have become the hot place to be for political reporters.
CHRIS WALLACE: "Sen. Biden, I know this is not your intent, but in fact, wouldn't your resolution send a message that would embolden our enemies and discourage our troops in the field?"
BIDEN: "Absolutely not. And not only does Carl Levin and Joe Biden and Senator Hagel and Senator Snowe but the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Iraqi Study Group, every single person out there that is of any consequence thinks, knows the Vice President doesn't know what he's talking about. I can't be more blunt than that. He is yet to be right one single time on Iraq. Name me one single time he's been correct. It's about time we stop listening to that ideological rhetoric and Bin Laden and the rest. Bin Laden isn't the issue here, but Bin Laden will become the issue. The issue is there's a civil war, Chris…"
Your MasterCard or Your Life
Americans are increasingly living in a house of cards - credit cards
So I have to live in the 8th District of California before she'll actually listen to me, that will never happen.
NOOOO, I gave you the other email address for her, at the american voices, which is the contact for her as Speaker of the House position.
Pentagon Linked to Illegal Military Sales to Iran
Military Surplus Parts Illegally Find Their Way to Iran, US Officials Say
By Sharon Theimer
The Associated Press
Russia sees threat from US plan for missiles in eastern Europe
A top Russian general warned that a missile defense system that the United States wants to deploy in eastern Europe would pose a "clear threat" to his country.
The United States confirmed it would soon begin formal talks on deploying the system in the Czech Republic and Poland, aimed at warding off rocket attacks from North Korea or Iran
Posted by Esmeralda on January 22, 2007 at 10:26 AM
"Carter, Clinton Seek To Bring Together Moderate Baptists
Former presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton are leading an effort to forge dozens of small and medium size, black and white Baptists organizations into a robust coalition that would serve as a counterweight to the conservative Southern Baptist Convention."
I say thank goodness that someone is considering something like this, as I find ultra-conservative religions to be very negative. And, it is a shame that when most people of the other 4 regions think of the south, they think about the south's ultra-conservative Baptist religion, and all the negative things that that implys, such as being against gay marriage (or civil unions too, for that matter), a woman's right to choose, believing that the man is the head of (superior) the woman and the woman has to do everything that he says, they are against legal foriegners (those that are here legally), against embrionic stem research, against a person's right to choose doctor assisted suicide, against much of the sexuality of today, beliving in the white man's dominance of the black man (and all minorities), have a strong desire to turn back the clock to at least the 1950s into the past (some may even want to go back further than that), believes that their religion is the only true one, believes in the literal biblical version of hell (and takes the bible totally literally, except the passages about helping the poor, being forgiving, etc.), and are just against almost anykind of progress.
I sure hope that with the help of some of the younger generations (starting with the one under-30 right now), that the south will one day realize that it is the most backward region of the U.S. and try to change and come up to the 21st century.
They should try to be more like Clinton, Carter, and John Edwards.
Posted by LavoniaW on January 22, 2007 at 04:21 PM
Well said!
So I have to live in the 8th District of California before she'll actually listen to me, that will never happen.
NOOOO, I gave you the other email address for her, at the american voices, which is the contact for her as Speaker of the House position.
Posted by PamB on January 22, 2007 at 04:10 PM
Pam, give it up. You should realize by now IWV's only purpose here is to bitch and moan about how his special interest is being ignored. And no matter how much attention is focused upon his special interest, and no matter how much is done FOR that special interest, it will never be enough for IWV.
Wow, sounds like a LOT of people here.
I am getting A LOT of hate mail lately. 20% of the population still support bush and they are all finding ME. but where? I don't lurk around right wing blogs trying to get people stirred up. they have found me here or somewhere similiar. and why? WHY don't they try to hang out with people that feel like they do? I guess it's easier to find and harrass me than find another uptight right wing fanatic. one woman says I sound "stupid, uncouth and illiterate" do you think it was that rant a few days ago about how I'd like to puke all over Bush? was that it?
LavoniaW, you and FOS have some very broad brushes when it comes to painting the "South". Granted there are many (a small majority) in the South who could use some reoreintation please remember that there are many (a large minority) who are progressive and in the mainstream. We are trying to turn the proportions around here so please offer some support and encouragement rather than universal condemnation. Thank you for your consideration.
Posted by Esmeralda on January 22, 2007 at 04:14 PM
And now the $64 question; why do you need a missile defense system in Poland to stop attackes from N. Korea and Iran?
Posted by LavoniaW January 22, 2007 at 4:21.... I don't think you know anything about the South...What are "the other four regions of the country"...not everyone in the south is a member of the Southern Bapitist Convention.....Your broad strokes of painting everyone in the South as some sort of feeble minded, narrow minded racist are highly offensive to me...you need to go take the "mirror test".....and see who the bigot really is......
ha! I enjoyed the rant. but even if I did vomit on him, he would never get the point that HE MAKES AMERICANS SICK WITH HIS VIOLENCE! he only sees what he wants to see. he doesn't even realize or care that people like me exist.
one writer suggests thast I have no respect for the "office" of the president. correct. I don't automatically respect the "office". and she refers to bush as "OUR PRESIDENT". no gaian. he is not my president.
Sadie,
Chalk them all up to Sour Grape, Sore Loser Repugs! Gawd, it galls them that Dems are now in control! So they take it out on you.
anonymously, of course. these types do not have the guts to face someone and spit out their hatred! You want to listen to stupid, illiterate, uncouth, just tune into C-Span Washington Journal mornings, and listen to the calls that come in on the Republican line! Most of them with Southern or Texan accents. All of them dumber than dirt. Uninformed, unintelligent, naive, easily swayed, closed minds!
They would rather see another 3000 of our boys Dead, than admit they made a mistake voting for Bush!
goodfoe, I guess us southern folks who don't fit the mold that PamB, LavoniaW and FOS are casting us in will just have to make a tent for ourselves. Or, like ducks, let their crap run off.
so why are these people contacting me now? I've had the art work and the website for over 4 years. and I took down some of the more obnoxious stuff.is it because they know their ruler's days in our white house are numbered? is it because they are in a panic and attacking anyone or anything that threatens to shatter their little bush bubble? I mean seriously folks....how many of you have gone to some right wing blog and tried to disturb the peace? it seems we have a lot of trolls here lately. WHY IS THAT? that is a whole new topic. when I go online, I am looking for peole who have similiar viewpoints. are they all angry and afraid now like many of us have been for 4 years of war?
PAM B-WHAT DO YOU THINK?
Posted by IraqWarVeteran on January 22, 2007 at 04:50 PM
Not all of us are so quick to dismiss your cause. I've noticed that civilians are usually skewed in their priorities and don't understand the military life or lifestyle. Being former military myself, I understand your plight though I must admit, I never saw combat. Throwing a few tax breaks to college kids is a far easier than the major overhauling needed at the VA and DOD. I have confidence in Speaker Pelosi and I'm quite sure that the needs of all of this great nation's veterans will be addressed well before this historic congress concludes. Please use every contact method you can for Speaker Pelosi and I'll be more than happy to sign any online petition you point me to.
Posted by PamB on January 22, 2007 at 04:56 PM
Don't forget 1/2 million Iraqis dead. mostly women and children. 34,000 just this year. but these people who have been contacting me probably aren't the type to worry over a little Muslim blood.
Your party, which failed to read the intellegence reports about Iraq because their lazy is now choosing to use Veterans as part of an acceptance speech
uHHHH, which intelligence report about Iraq would you be talking about????? Maybe the one Bush said had WMDS? (LIE), Maybe the one that said there was an alQaeda connection?(LIE), maybe the one that said they had something to do with 9/11? (LIE).
You are a very, very uninformed, person, coming in here and making yourself look dumb.
Listen! Pelosi and the Dems have been in office exactly 100 hours! WTF do you want? Everybody to drop everything and concentrate just on one issue? Your issue? The Democrats will get around to helping the Veterans far more than they have been!
I can only assume you were this Vehement and angy and calling and blasting all the Republicans while they were in the majority! Or is it just Democrats you don't like?
Personally, you turn me off on veterans and their needs, with the way you come in here and rant and rave. Maybe some of us would give some support, if you shut your mouth and made your case in a civil way! We all have relatives or friends, or neighbors who have had to hit Iraq! Or who are Veterans from other eras! If you want to help, then get positive, instead of negative!
I have no response to them. we are not speaking the same language. we are not even on the same planet. I have no reply for them. nothing.
well, Pam it looks like you have things under control here. watch out for the crazy people.
catch you later maybe!
Posted by IraqWarVeteran on January 22, 2007 at 04:50 PM
NO, it is the rupublicans under this president who failed to read the intelligence reports regarding al quaida. Clinton developed the agency and left the top man in charge to brief the new administration. What did they do? Fire him and clear brush away from a fake ranch.
No one is dismissing your issue, many of those on here ARE veterans. But no matter how important the issue, being malicious and untruthful in your rants will get you less than favorable replies here. You want something done? Get off of your computer and knock on the door of your congressmen and women.
SalutetheDem's....and I guess all of us "are dumber than dirt,uninformed,unintelligent,naive,easily swayed,closed minded"....
There are over 50 bills being presented in Congress at this point that assist or support veterans in some aspect. Check out Thomas.
Can you imagine if you had someone come on a blog and criticize you after you've been at your job only a couple weeks? This is crazy.
IraqWarVeteran, I'm sorry that you cannot snap your fingers and get Pelosi to bring the bill you desire to the floor (actually, I don't believe she brings any bills in her role). But, mostly I'm sorry that this president caused you to take on the monikker that you have chosen. I believe that your anger is very misplaced.
Way to make friends, IVW. Now that you have exposed yourself for the ignorant fool that you are, go back to the GOP.
I don't know about you, Blue, but I am through reading or paying any attention to this guy's post. Have a feeling he is no more of a vet than I am, just thinks he is showing up Dems as uncaring.
the only wussie here, is him. If he cares so much about the Vets, get back into the surge and go and take someone's place over there.
http://www.democrats.org/stateoftheunion
This link to give Webb your comments for his rebuttle to the Chimps talk.
Posted by IraqWarVeteran on January 22, 2007 at 05:12 PM
Posted by IraqWarVeteran on January 22, 2007 at 05:39 PM
I recommend rather than visit blogs and make calls and write letters, that you run for public office yourself.
Strong passion toward any objective, if used in the correct outlet, produces positive results.
This in my Business & Professional Women's updates:
On January 19th, the Congressional Caucus for Women’s Issues completed its election of co-chairs and vice-chairs for the 110th Congress. Representatives Lois Capps (D-CA) and Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA) will serve as the co-chairs, and Representatives Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) and Mary Fallin (R-OK) will serve as vice-chairs.
Let's HOPE the Dems are giving him a hard time on this! Besides the Group Insurance danger, anyone who has tried to buy Individual insurance will tell you---the cost is prohibitive, there are pre-existing condition clauses which prevent a lot of people from getting coverage.
"WASHINGTON - President Bush's proposed tax deduction for health insurance appears to be shaping up as a tough sell in the Democratic Congress.
Rep. Pete Stark, D-Calif., said Monday that the tax changes, which Bush is expected to promote in Tuesday night's State of the Union address, would encourage employers to stop providing health insurance.
"Under the guise of tax breaks, the president is pursuing a policy designed to destroy the employer-based health care system through which 160 million people receive coverage," the lawmaker said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070122/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_health_taxes
IRW
I spoke about some unjustifiable thing that happened to me.
I listened to people on this site give me intelligible and thoughtful insight.
They also directed me to people who could help me.
That was 2 years ago and I never had a problem with that situation again. In fact I was surprised with a big Bonus in $.
So state your case politely and don't attack us for what the Repugs did to you with there actions in starting this war.
Posted by IraqWarVeteran on January 22, 2007 at 05:50 PM
I look in the mirror every day.
Now, would you please use the information to contact Speaker Pelosi that PamB has provided for you? In addition to using that link, please contact all those on the Veteran's Affairs Committee with your concerns.
IWV,
If you use the link to the Veteran's Affairs, there is a freshman Congressman by the name of Zack Space. Tell him Jacqueline sent you.
Posted by IraqWarVeteran on January 22, 2007 at 05:07 PM
Again, I think it was far easier to throw a few tax breaks to college kids that to overhaul the VA and DOD. Having said that, to do what you are requesting would take more than the first 100 hours of this Congress. Unfortunately, while it would be quite easy to get virtually anything out of the House, to get it through the 49-49-2 Senate is a horse of another color. Sen. Levin (D-MI), I believe, is in charge of the Senate Armed Services Committee now. www.house.gov and www.senate.gov will have all the contact information you need including comittee assignments. Start or continue your petitions and letter/e-mail writing. Pay no attention to the shrill "civis". We'll be right here with you. Let me know when you've got a petition for me to sign.
How about my Department of the Army Photo?
Posted by IraqWarVeteran on January 22, 2007 at 05:35 PM
Are you cute? ;)
Posted by IraqWarVeteran on January 22, 2007 at 06:18 PM
It's the uniform, that always get them.
I can only assume you were this Vehement and angy and calling and blasting all the Republicans while they were in the majority! Or is it just Democrats you don't like? Posted by PamB
Bingo! Ding, ding, ding, ding. We have a winner!
I will bet Joe Lieberman is not happy with his sweetheart, Collins over turning against this ill fated escalation. 3000 more troops landed this weekend, and 25 died this weekend!
"WASHINGTON - Congressional Republicans pushed back Monday against President Bush's decision to increase troop strength in Iraq, some voicing opposition while others urged holding the administration and Iraqi government more accountable for the war effort.
"We've had four other surges since we first went into Iraq," said Sen. Susan Collins (news, bio, voting record), referring to the administration's plan for an additional 21,500 troops. "None of them produced a long-lasting change in the situation on the ground.
"So I am very skeptical that this surge would produce the desired outcome," said the Maine Republican.
China tells senior US official not to worry about anti-satellite test
The Chinese, who had not previously confirmed carrying out the test earlier this month, told Hill "this was not a threat against anybody and was not meant to spark a race to militarize space," McCormack told reporters.
Posted by IraqWarVeteran on January 22, 2007 at 06:18 PM
It's the uniform, that always get them.
Posted by BobVADemHawk-Gore-Clark2008 on January 22, 2007 at 06:22 PM
Where's the post? Cleansing?
How ya doing, Bob? Poland! Why not? We need stations everywhere, don't we?
Even the major corporations are now saying there is climate change due to Greenhouse Gases!
"WASHINGTON - Chief executives of 10 major corporations urged Congress on Monday to require limits on greenhouse gases this year, contending voluntary efforts to combat climate change are inadequate.
The call for immediate action came on the eve of President Bush's State of the Union address in which he is expected to reiterate that the industry on its own is making progress in curtailing the growth of heat-trapping emissions without the need of government intervention.
But the executives and leaders of four major environmental organizations said in a letter to Bush that mandatory emissions caps are needed to reduce the flow of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases into the atmosphere.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070122/ap_on_bi_ge/ceos_climate
Poland! Why not? We need stations everywhere, don't we? Posted by Esmeralda
So we need to "run the world" then? Where's the money gonna come from to do all that?
"Shrill Civis"? No 'civi' here was being 'shrill'. But I'll be damned if I will let someone take people here to task for not doing what they can do themselves. And, IWV said something interesting in his post that I agreed with: that it will take the military saying no before this president will stop. A large majority of us "lazy Americans" have told this administration that they oppose this invasion....but mostly silence from the vets of this nation. They stood by and let them degrade the purple heart; degrade those that fought in Vietnam; degrade a former POW; degrade fellow veterans who lost limbs. Other than IWV and his issue, when will these vets speak up for their own?
Too late. Because of the swiftboaters, Joe Nascar will forever believe that Barack is a terrorist.
JAKARTA, Indonesia (CNN) -- Allegations that Sen. Barack Obama was educated in a radical Muslim school known as a "madrassa" are not accurate, according to CNN reporting.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/index.html
NBC/WSJ poll: Bush ‘really in the cellar of public opinion’
Ensconsed in his safe Fox "News" channel seat, snugly tucked in as Hannity's hag, Alan Colmes has spoken. The Fairness Doctrine is just not something we Democrats should support. Must be nice to have all of your bills paid by TV and radio shows all supported by Fox "News." I smell a rat.
So, with the latest "Hannity & Colmes" in the can, the most recent member to the Lieberman wing of political no man's land can return home to know that his mortgage is paid, his heat and electricity secured, while dealing a blow against the competitors, which amount to all those progressives battling for equal time in a world run by conservative corporate conglomerates supporting only the mouth pieces that tow the big money line.
The Decider Gets Snippy
During an interview with USA Today, Bush gave his standard answers...we have a plan to succeed in Iraq, Maliki is a great guy, Iran is bad, no new taxes...and then he was asked about his legacy:
Q: Did you see The Washington Post historical forum on your legacy, because one of the historians, Eric Foner, called you the worst president ever.
A: No, I didn't see it.
Q: Is that something that bothers you?
A: My legacy will be written long after I'm president.
Q: I know you're a fan of history, though. Do you see yourself as a possible Truman?
A: I've got two years to be president. I guess people with idle time like yourself can think about this. I've got a job to do, and I'm going to do it.
Well, we've always known that he does his job without thinking.
Dailykos
"My legacy will be written long after I'm president."
I don't know if I agree with that. Just how long will it take to write the words "Miserable Failure"?
More Republicans oppose Iraq troop increase
WASHINGTON (AP) — Congressional Republicans pushed back Monday against President Bush's decision to deploy additional troops in Iraq, some voicing opposition while others called for the administration and Iraqi government to be held accountable.
USA Today
The Decider Gets Snippy
by BarbinMD
Mon Jan 22, 2007 at 02:51:33 PM PST
It seems that the pressure is getting to the Decider on the eve of his State of the Union speech. During an interview with USA Today, Bush gave his standard answers...we have a plan to succeed in Iraq, Maliki is a great guy, Iran is bad, no new taxes...and then he was asked about his legacy:
Q: Did you see The Washington Post historical forum on your legacy, because one of the historians, Eric Foner, called you the worst president ever.
A: No, I didn't see it.
Q: Is that something that bothers you?
A: My legacy will be written long after I'm president.
Q: I know you're a fan of history, though. Do you see yourself as a possible Truman?
A: I've got two years to be president. I guess people with idle time like yourself can think about this. I've got a job to do, and I'm going to do it.
Well, we've always known that he does his job without thinking.
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Boo, Hoo, Hoo ... The Decider is getting snippy.
WASHINGTON (AP) — Congressional Republicans pushed back Monday against President Bush's decision to deploy additional troops in Iraq, some voicing opposition while others called for the administration and Iraqi government to be held accountable.
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Yeah, Warner, Collins and Ben Nelson are now floating a bill to get The Chief Dunce to consider the ISG recommendations. But, it's hardly a withdraw the troops now resolution.
Warner doesn't agree with the escalation at any rate.
"My legacy will be written long after I'm president."
He keeps saying "the world will figure out how smart I am long after we're 'all dead'". I'm sure that's what his neo-con handlers keep telling him.
So we need to "run the world" then? Where's the money gonna come from to do all that?
Posted by Domingo on January 22, 2007 at 06:35 PM
I was being snarky about the bases. But yeah, w wants to run the world, and I figure he's going to get if off our (americans) backs, or try to.
cbs just put up their newest poll. BUSH APPROVAL AT 28%!!!!!! CONGRADULATIONS MR. BOZO WE KNEW YOU COULD BREAK 30!!!!!!
Posted by Domingo on January 22, 2007 at 06:42 PM
hehehehe,
William, he is going to go into his SOTU address tomorrow night, not only in the toilet in approval, with CEO's coming out today saying that their own greenhouse gases must be capped, his health insurance proposal already dissed, I can't imagine what he possibly can say that will be positive or factual. I just pray that the Dems stay seated. I still remember Clinton's last couple of SOTU speechs, while the Repubs sat on their hands, with their fingers up their butts! AND HE WAS A SUCESSFUL PRESIDENT!
But, but, but, I thought he said "No new taxes!". Oh, he meant "No new taxes!" only for his rich cronies.
Bush to Tax Health Care Plans!!!
If your health care plan is "too good," Bush is going to propose that you get taxed for it. He's proposing a tax increase!
Oh, this is going to be so much fun this week. Count the Republicans who line up behind Bush's tax increase. Just count 'em.
NY Times
**Updated**
At least 130 killed in Iraq bloodshed
More than 130 people die on Iraq's bloodiest day this year, with bomb attacks in Baghdad and Baquba and 160 were injured in a double car bombing at a second-hand clothes market in Baghdad. Full Story:
Great news, gregg ! Now I think he is the lowest in History, isn't he????
did you read the post above about CEOs criticizing Bush about greenhouse emissions? Read it, you will like it!
This didn't take long, did it? Good, let them get their venom out of the way nice and early.
RNC unleashes first attack against candidate Clinton
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Hours_after_announcement_RNC_attacks_Hilary_0122.html
Send a message to congress this weekend!
Join CODEPINK and many others in a national march to D.C. on January 27-29, to send a strong, clear message to Congress and the Bush Administration: The people of this country want the war and occupation in Iraq to end and we want the troops home now! Click on link below for details:
http://www.codepink4peace.org/article.php?list=type&type=185
cbs just put up their newest poll. BUSH APPROVAL AT 28%!!!!!! CONGRADULATIONS MR. BOZO WE KNEW YOU COULD BREAK 30!!!!!!
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Chimpy has Nixon's record lows in mind. Nixon got down to 19% by the time he left. Only 9% more to go King George!
pam, yes the world is just leaving bush and the sallys of the world behind and going ahead in trying to do something to stem the tide of environmental destruction. this is gonna be a great state of the nation speech...it will be like the high school teacher who kicks off the holiday assembly as they are cuffing him and taking him off to jail for dealing crack....
Wonder if IWV knows about this??
"A drug-resistant bacteria that is infecting wounded US soldiers in Iraq -- and has spread to civilian hospitals in parts of Europe -- accidentally evolved in US military hospitals in Iraq, Wired Magazine will report in a massive expose on Monday, RAW STORY has learned.
The full story is now available here
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Wired_to_report_US_unwittingly_evolved_0121.html
ABC News/Washington Post Poll: State Of The Nation Is "Unhappy With Bush"
by Erin13
Mon Jan 22, 2007 at 01:57:29 PM PST
ABC News and The Washington Post released results today of its latest phone survey among a random sampling of Americans age 18+. It was conducted by third-party TNS Research, with 1,000 completed responses collected from Tuesday Jan. 16 through Friday, Jan. 19, 2007.
Surveys of 1,000+ completed responses are considered statistically significant and reliable for reporting purposes.
The .pdf of the questions asked, response results and methodology are in weblink, below, along with a link to the news release from ABC News.
Take a look at the buzzword in this news: Iraq. Maybe if the president reads it he'll get a clue.
Title of the report: "The State Of The Nation: Is Unhappy With Bush." News excerpts are attached from Gary Langer at ABC News.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/1/22/165029/211
More luv for Da Chimp.
Send a message to congress this weekend!
Join CODEPINK and many others in a national march to D.C. on January 27-29,
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Be there or be square. Protest the illegal Iraq occupation.
This infuriates me! If Bush Co had left the troops in Afghanistan, Maybe , just maybe there would no longer be any such group as AlQaeda, and bin Laden would be rotting in a jail! But oh, no, they HAD to get into Iraq and leave AlQaeda and Bin laden alone!
Al-Qaeda claims it shot down US helicopter in Iraq
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070122/ts_afp/usiraqmilitary_070122195704
Posted by PamB on January 22, 2007 at 07:11 PM
Pam,
Bluzy had posted that on a previous thread. I looked up the bacteria. My brain had a hard time comprehending the medical terms, but the gist of it put me in a state of confusion just thinking that when we do bring them home, they are bringing back more than just an altered mind, body and soul that they will have to live with.
Bush & Health Insurers Play Tag Team to Block Real Reform
by DrSteveB
Mon Jan 22, 2007 at 01:49:25 PM PST
Over the past week we have seen the once again the brilliance of the Bush White House "Mayberry Machiavallians" as domestic politics operators in pursuit of narrow corporate special interests. Incompetent at actual policy, administration or management, they are once again brilliant at political gamesmanship. They have in effect played a classic tag-team of bad-cop/good-cop with the health insurance industry and others to promomte bad and worse plans, in order to try and block real reform from getting on the agenda.
Meanwhile, Families USA and other organizations (APHA, AARP, AAFP ) that might like to think of themselves as progressive, got taken to the cleaners in a classic tag-team bad-cop/worse-cop scenario. I explain what this is about and a real immediate action step we can take!
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/1/22/14575/1989
It's real simply. Don't give the chimp's garbage the time of day. We now have the power to prevent any bill based on Chimp's ravings to be blocked from coming up in committee. Puggies did it to us for years so the heck with them. Let's debate HR676, Wyden Bill, Kennedy's Health care for all ... any bill other than one that is geared to harm the middle class.
From Krugman:
Going without health insurance isn’t like deciding to rent an apartment instead of buying a house.
The uninsured don’t need an "incentive" to buy insurance; they need something that makes getting insurance possible.
Most people without health insurance have low incomes, and just can’t afford the premiums.
And making premiums tax-deductible is almost worthless to workers whose income puts them in a low tax bracket.
Of those uninsured who aren’t low-income, many can’t get coverage because of pre-existing conditions... Again, tax deductions won’t solve their problem.
The only people the Bush plan might move out of the ranks of the uninsured are the people we’re least concerned about — affluent, healthy Americans who choose voluntarily not to be insured.
At most, the Bush plan might induce some of those people to buy insurance, while in the process — whaddya know — giving many other high-income individuals yet another tax break.
While proposing this high-end tax break, Mr. Bush is also proposing a tax increase — not on the wealthy, but on workers who, he thinks, have too much health insurance.
The tax code, he said, "unwisely encourages workers to choose overly expensive, gold-plated plans. The result is that insurance premiums rise, and many Americans cannot afford the coverage they need."
No economic analysis I’m aware of says that when Peter chooses a good health plan, he raises Paul’s premiums.
And look at the condescension. Will all those who think they have "gold plated" health coverage please raise their hands?
According to press reports, the actual plan is to penalize workers with relatively generous insurance coverage. Just to be clear, we’re not talking about the wealthy; we’re talking about ordinary workers who have managed to negotiate better-than-average health plans.
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The hell with the chomp, I oppose this idea 100%. I suppose that's why he is raising the issue - to throw health care activists off by getting them to fight against a harmful bill that won't help anyone that doesn't have insurance.
It ain't easy, being cheesy.
$50K jump in board of elections ’07 budget
“One of the big things we’re going to be looking at is minimizing ballot costs, by getting other bids,” Binegar said. “We’re going to be scrutinizing every penny that goes out of this office and making sure we get the best price for every service that has to be bid out of this office.”
The office will also be getting about $50,000 in charge backs from last year’s three elections and putting that money into the county’s general fund. Charge backs come from any community that puts a special issue or ordinance on the ballot, or holds a special election.
“That money doesn’t go back into our budget, it goes into the general fund,” Binegar said.
Last year, charge backs that came in from 2005 elections totaled about $73,000.
Krugman continues:
What’s driving all this is the theory, popular in conservative circles but utterly at odds with the evidence, that the big problem with U.S. health care is that people have too much insurance — that there would be large cost savings if people were forced to pay more of their medical expenses out of pocket.
The administration also believes, for some reason, that people should be pushed out of employment-based health insurance — admittedly a deeply flawed system — into the individual insurance market, which is a disaster on all fronts. Insurance companies try to avoid selling policies to people who are likely to use them, so a large fraction of premiums in the individual market goes not to paying medical bills but to bureaucracies dedicated to weeding out "high risk" applicants — and keeping them uninsured.
Mr. Bush, on the other hand, is still peddling the fantasy that the free market, with a little help from tax cuts, solves all problems.
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This garbage is dead on arrival as are all Bush proposals. He might as well start quacking like the lame duck he is.
Jacque, I feel such sickness when I read stories like that bacteria one ! I keep waiting for my nephew in law to get killed or lose his eyes or limbs. to then get this on top of it, is frightening ! What has Bush done to our kids?
Just think of going to Iraq and getting bit by one of these things.
Fat chicks? haha The latest one, as posted by FOS, looks like a hottie.
So your honorable frostbite, who is your pick for President...one that has announced, that is? And which team is your pick for the Super Bowl?
hahahaha, Those sore loser, sour grape Repgs make me laugh! Clinton did more in 8 years, than Reagan and Bush I did in 12, yet they will not admit it. Kills them that he was so much better than anything they could spawn!
Gregg, Another good one on Global Warming !
Global Warming: The Final Verdict
By Robin McKie
The Observer UK
Sunday 21 January 2007
A study by the world's leading experts says global warming will happen faster and be more devastating than previously thought.
Global warming is destined to have a far more destructive and earlier impact than previously estimated, the most authoritative report yet produced on climate change will warn next week
This infuriates me! If Bush Co had left the troops in Afghanistan, Maybe , just maybe there would no longer be any such group as AlQaeda
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Pam, Bush doesn't think about Bin Laden much ...
Then again, he doesn't think very much at all.
He still has that evil POS Rove though who keeps coming up with rubbish to throw us all off.
My prediction - Bush hits Nixon's lows and the GOOPIES lose way more seats in 2008.
sally! wow i never realized how good things would go for your president once he lost congress. will you be sitting with laura tomorrow night? hope to see you there.
Obama smear debunked and destroyed by CNN
by MisterOpus1
Mon Jan 22, 2007 at 03:36:49 PM PST
It's nice to see CNN do their job and investigate rather than spread the joy of smearing politicians and candidates with unsupported assertions, rumors, and innuendos. I just saw Wolf give a low down on this about 1/2 ago on the Obama's education smear.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/1/22/181225/419
cnn smacks down both smears - about Obama and that Clinton started the rumor. Hey, we all know this came from the likes of Sludge Drudge, the Freepers and their idiotic frosted trolls.
Posted by PamB on January 22, 2007 at 07:24 PM
w has started a world wide epidemic. He has given globalization a new meaning.
It breaks my heart when I read about everyone else who has family in Iraq/Afghanistan. My cousin has both her sons there. Both boys got married this past summer. sigh...
"Frosty" nutjobs
by algebrateacher
Sat Jan 13, 2007 at 02:24:58 PM PST
Is there something about the name "Frosty" that makes someone unhinged? Frosty Hardison is an activist in Federal Way, WA, trying to ban use of Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth" in the classroom. He's the one who has said that "condoms don't belong in the classroom and neither does Al Gore." His wife, an unsuccessful candidate for the school board, said she thinks the film is anti-America. Then there is Frosty Wooldridge, an anti-immigration activist whose first bugaboo (first of many; the fellow is anti-immigration the way Representative Goode, R-VA, is) is the 1965 Act of Congress legalizing the presence of Cuban refugees from Fidel. Links below
To: Goodfoe and SalutetheDems
I was not intending to portray the whole south in a negative way, because most of the southern states vote consistently 40% Democratic during elections. Which means that a large minority of southerners are not the way that I described those of the ultra-conservative organizations. But, let's be honest, most of the southern states also votes consistently about 60% ultra-conservative Republican and a lot of them are members of the ultra-conservative organizations.
I obviously was not talking about you, who I imagine are not ultra-conservative, because if you were, you more than likely would not be on this forum supporting the Dems. I wasn't referring to you in that post. So, stop being so defensive.
I too, am from the south (born and raised in South Carolina), and here we have a lot of people who probably would support the Dems if they would start voting (minorities, women, young people, and even some white men), but they don't vote. The people who are most likely to vote here are the ones who are ultra-conservative Republican so that they can try to force their ultra-conservative views down people's throats.
I do have hope for the south. And, with the help of the state Democratic Party and the National Democratic Party, I think that enough progress in the south can be made in order to turn things around, and turn a lot of the south, if not blue, at least purple, so that the Democratic Party will at least be truly competitive here.
I was just agreeing with Esmeralda that it was a good thing that Clinton and Carter were trying to put together a more moderate version of the Baptist faith in the south, (something that is way overdue in the south).
I didn't mean to offend southern Dems on this blog, as I am one myself.
Rep. Waters Encourages Members of Congress to March Against the Iraq War
Submitted by davidswanson on Mon, 2007-01-22 22:50. Activism | Congress
Washington, DC - U.S. Representative Maxine Waters (CA-35) today sent a letter to her Congressional colleagues urging them to participate in the anti-war rally planned for Saturday, January 27, 2007.
The text of the letter is below:
January 22, 2007
Dear Colleague:
By now, you should have received an invitation from United for Peace and Justice to participate in the anti-Iraq war rally planned for January 27th. I encourage you to march with me and thousands of other individuals from around the country who want to bring our troops home. Members of Congress who participate in the march will be given a prime spot at the head of the march to highlight their opposition to the war.
BRINGING HOME THE TROOPS: THE NEXT STEP
Submitted by davidswanson on Mon, 2007-01-22 22:32. Media
By Janie Sheppard, UKIAH DAILY JOURNAL
In November, Americans voted against the policies of the President, specifically with respect to Iraq. Rather than heed the wishes of the electorate, the president is defiant, congratulating himself for his “thick hide” and going directly against the will of the people by sending more troops to Iraq. The Iraqi Government does not want the troops to be in Baghdad, where the President plans to send them; the Iraqi Prime Minister has said he wanted American troops moved outside the city. Never mind, the President is going to follow the beat of his own drum.
Finally, timidly, Congress has begun to consider limiting the President’s powers. In the past, when presidents have claimed powers to which they were not entitled, the federal courts have reminded them that the only powers they have are those enumerated in the Constitution. Now, we cannot depend on the courts to do that; too many judges owe their appointments to President Bush. Furthermore, now the President can even influence which corruption cases, if any, are brought in federal courts. In the January 15th New York Times, we read that an amendment in the Patriot Act allows him to appoint United States Attorneys without Senate confirmation. Recently, at least seven U.S. Attorneys have been forced to resign for no good reason, but presumably to allow the President to appoint his friends. A Bush-appointed U.S. Attorney would not be likely to bring cases against members of his administration
DON'T LET TORTURE BECOME THE NORM
Submitted by danielifearn on Mon, 2007-01-22 21:50. General Discussion
By PHILLIP BUTLER
Guest commentary
Many peace and justice organizations have been promoting and demonstrating lately for awareness of torture and related issues. I'm amazed and profoundly disappointed that this has apparently become necessary in our country.
I spent eight years as a prisoner of war in Vietnam, from 1965 to 1973. During that time, I and more than 90 percent of my fellow POWs were repeatedly tortured for the extortion of political propaganda and sometimes just for retribution. We were not recognized by Vietnam as POWs, but as criminals, because the Vietnamese had not signed the 1949 "Geneva Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War."
Later, in 1975, the United Nations created the "Convention Against Torture." Both of these were ratified by Congress and became laws of our land. Unfortunately Vietnam, along with numerous other countries who are still partially stuck in the 15th century, had institutionalized torture to punish and extract information from prisoners.
"Frosty" nutjobs
by algebrateacher
Sat Jan 13, 2007 at 02:24:58 PM PST
Is there something about the name "Frosty" that makes someone unhinged? Frosty Hardison is an activist in Federal Way, WA, trying to ban use of Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth" in the classroom. He's the one who has said that "condoms don't belong in the classroom and neither does Al Gore." His wife, an unsuccessful candidate for the school board, said she thinks the film is anti-America. Then there is Frosty Wooldridge, an anti-immigration activist whose first bugaboo (first of many; the fellow is anti-immigration the way Representative Goode, R-VA, is) is the 1965 Act of Congress legalizing the presence of Cuban refugees from Fidel.
Frosty-the-moron-ignoramus hates it someone "boinks" woman instead of under-age children like so many of his Republican heros do.
sally! wow i never realized how good things would go for your president once he lost congress. will you be sitting with laura tomorrow night? hope to see you there.
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Is Laura sitting next to a box of frosted flakes?
Posted by LavoniaW on January 22, 2007 at 07:33 PM
I hope that the fellows who were offended and other southerners who read/post here read your apology & accept it.
Even though I disagree with you about a draft, (I don't want my beautiful daughters to have to go) I do respectfully thank you for your service.
Hi all,
I have been pissed off all day. I heard the other day that bush and cheney are firing U.S. Government Prosecutors and replacing them with repug extremist operative assholes.
This was confirmed today by Stephanie Miller. She said the latest is the prosecutor that brought the criminal Cunningham from San Diego to justice. They replaced him with one of rove's extremist repug operatives.
There hasn't been a word of this atrocity in the MSM or the newspapers.
Are you as outrage as I am. The whole pack of them need to be arrested, put in chains, frog-marched to the Hague and tried for treason against the American people and while they are at it they need to be tried for crimes against humanity.
bush and cheney must be removed from office NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
the only person i would rather see the repubs run than delay is gingrich. hope sally is right for once.
tomorrow the libby trial starts, a nice little warm up for bush's big flop.
Good evening
I stated this morning no politics today and I'm finishing the night off with a bang.
Tony Dungy and Lovie Smith you have definitely earned your props. You did it your way and look at where you are!
Chicago Bears/Indianapolis Colts
Super Bowl/Soul Bowl # 41
In our own Miami!!!!! Oh yeaaahhh !!!!
I have been pissed off all day. I heard the other day that bush and cheney are firing U.S. Government Prosecutors and replacing them with repug extremist operative assholes.
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John, the Times did have a story on this. Also, attorneys representing detainees in Gautanamo Bay are being threatened by the Pentagon. It's this sort of intimidation that makes Bush into nothing more than a petty thug that must be impeached.
I refuse to acknowledge the chimp as the president. he is a fraud, a traitor and a dictatofr who has failed to uphold the constitution.
j, stay with the feeling young lady, i'm still riding high from 11/7....!
the only person i would rather see the repubs run than delay is gingrich. hope sally is right for once.
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Eye of Newt Ginrich run for prez. Oh baby, bring that one on. Way better than Delay the Bug Exterminator.
CNN Debunks False Obama ‘Madrassa’ Smear
Last week, Fox News and other Rupert Murdoch outlets amplified a right-wing report alleging that Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) attended an Islamic “madrassa” school as a 6-year-old child. One Fox News caller questioned whether Obama’s schooling means that “maybe he doesn’t consider terrorists the enemy.” Fox anchor Brian Kilmeade responded, “Well, we’ll see about that.”
Commenting on this report today, Wolf Blitzer said that CNN had done “what any serious news organization is supposed to do in this kind of a situation”: actually investigate and learn the facts. CNN’s Senior International Correspondent John Vause filed a report from Indonesia.
In the report, Vause says, “I’ve been to those madrassas in Pakistan … this school is nothing like that.” He also interviews a classmate of Obama’s who says the school was not even strictly Muslim; it also taught Christian, Buddhist, and Confucian students.
debunk
Lardball just said that McCain is only one running who has a track record. Is this idiot just on drugs?
Posted by HisHonor*Frosty* on January 22, 2007 at 07:39 PM
I thought Gingrich wasn't in? I must be behind in some news. Richardson would be a great democratic candidate. He's sure & steady. I don't know how he would do here in the heartland and the east coast though.
I've not watched one football game this season, but I'm going with the Colts...only because that is what my High School mascot is. haha
Sources say case workers for wounded laid off
Submitted by davidswanson on Mon, 2007-01-22 21:48. Evidence
By Karen Jowers, Army Times
Defense Department officials have laid off most of their case workers who help severely injured service members, sources said.
The case workers for the Military Severely Injured Center serve as advocates for wounded service members who have questions or issues related to benefits, financial resources and their successful return to duty or reintegration into civilian life — all forms of support other than medical care.
The center officially opened in February 2005, with its primary offices in Arlington, Va., but also hired advocates at hospitals around the country.
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/17607
Nice huh. Bush can find tax cuts for billionaires and oil companies. But, he can't find money to take care of the troops that he harmed with his lies.
gregg,
OH YES, please oh please let them have to scrape the bottom of the barrel and put Gingrich up! My prayers would be answered! This sleeze ball wouldn't pull in 1000 votes ! He has been a joke, particulary lately as people realize how screwed they got on any 'contract with America'.
Looks like Bush can't even think up anything good for his SOTU , so he will steal Dems ideas!
"What War? Bush Expected to Ignore Iraq Quagmire in State of the Union, Promote Democrats' Domestic Agenda as His Own
Sure sounds like he's been reading the Democratic agenda (or at least had someone else read it to him). It wouldn't be the first time he talked about being progressive during the speech with absolutely no intention of actually doing something. Remember the bit last year about ending our "addiction to oil?" Not to mention all the Saddam/WMD lies in the 2003 State of the Union.
Maybe we should make Bush read his speech under oath this time. If Bush actually cared about not lying, the speech would only be a few minutes long.
Fox anchor Brian Kilmeade responded, “Well, we’ll see about that.”
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What an obnoxious putz! they are all that way on Faux news. They get their reports straight from Rove, Sludge Drudge and Freepers. That channel has no credibility.
gingrich said he would run as a last resort. he explained this meant if the rest of the party of god didn't take his pontifications and run with them he would have to.
these guys were all hall monitors in junior high who were caught masturbating under their desks while reading sgt. rock comics and were then stripped of their positions of authority....i am sure of it.
I received the following from my governor today.
"Bill Richardson for President Exploratory Committee
Dear JOHN,
In our democracy, the people grant our elected leaders the
privilege of serving our country, and in return we expect a
lot from them.
The past six years have taught us what can happen when a
president and his team fall short. The American people have
simply not gotten the leadership and the results we deserve,
and the consequences have been costly -- and deadly.
Today I begin the formal process of running for President of
the United States because I believe that America deserves
better. We've learned the hard way that governing by
ideology and talking points won't get the job done.
This election will provoke a serious debate about what
America needs in a president. I want to begin with a simple
question, one that will affect America's role in the world
and the lives of the 300 million of us here at home.
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Our next president must be able to ...
Share your answer and start our discussion. We'll publish
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Of course, I have some ideas of my own.
From the war on terror to climate change to the
ever-tightening squeeze on the middle class, the issues
facing our nation are too important for the rigid ideology,
corruption and utter incompetence that has characterized
this Republican administration.
I've taken these kinds of challenges head-on throughout my
career -- representing America at the United Nations,
serving as Energy Secretary, working for my constituents as
a Congressman, and now leading a diverse and growing state
as Governor. I know what it takes to get results.
As I considered this decision with my family, I felt that it
would be irresponsible to sit on the sidelines as our party
and our country make critical choices about our future over
the next year.
I hope you won't sit on the sidelines either. This election
must be a serious discussion about what America needs from
its chief executive, and your voice matters:
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After the failures of the last six years, Americans
overwhelmingly chose Democrats to lead at every level of
office last November.
Now, over the course of the next year, our party has a
serious responsibility to choose a nominee who will live up
to our expectations and be able to tackle the challenges of
the nation's highest office.
I'm honored by the support and encouragement I've received
as I considered beginning this journey.
I hope you'll join me for it.
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Sorry it is so long but I just had to share it.
speaking of under oath, the Libby trial will be very interesting. Neither he nor Cheney nor any other republicans they call have ANY credibility any more! MAKE CHENEY SIT ON A STACK OF BIBLES!
"Well, the credibility of Vice President Cheney and Scooter Libby‘s going to be crucial, especially in the point of whether they were or were not preoccupied with undermining the Wilsons. And this came out when Scooter Libby‘s attorneys twice asked potential jurors how they would feel if Vice President Cheney‘s testimony was contradicted by somebody else who might testify in the case.
That was intriguing, whether it was a hypothetical or whether it was a foreshadowing of something to come, intriguing simply because we know that there is a witness from the CIA who‘s going to testify about briefing the vice president‘s office about the Wilsons."
To date, the role of Vice President Dick Cheney in the Plame Affair is unclear. Questioning of key witnesses during the investigation stalled, and subsequently led to the charge of perjury against the Vice President's aide, Scooter Libby. There is however, evidence that Cheney played an integral role in the outing of undercover CIA agent, Plame. But is there enough evidence for prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald to go after Cheney, or does Shuster's remarks suggest Fitzgerald is looking to use the "Ness tactic?"
http://theprogressivetruth.blogspot.com/2007/01/cheney-to-commit-perjury-in-libby-case.html
Posted by rjsnj on January 22, 2007 at 07:50 PM
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IWV had a legitimate complaint about not receiving help. Displaced anger got his posts cleansed.
Posted by gregg on January 22, 2007 at 07:54 PM
lmao!
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With that, I'm off for a while. I need a tv news break and a cup of something warm & relaxing.
Enjoy the evening, everyone.
I thought Gingrich wasn't in? I must be behind in some news
Jacq, he isn't! He said only if it was a last resort, would he jump in. And make sure you don't place any bets following any predictions of the troll! Not with HIS track record! snicker.....
bbl, a little snack time, shower, etc.
Sorry it is so long but I just had to share it.
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John, thx for the post.
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IWV had a legitimate complaint about not receiving help. Displaced anger got his posts cleansed.
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esmeralda, who's IWV? If this is an Iraq War Vet. I would betcha that there is legitimate gripes about getting no help. Since this debacle started, Bush has closed VA hospitals and in general cut all sorts of aid.
Bombs Kill at Least 100 People in Iraq
Submitted by davidswanson on Mon, 2007-01-22 19:35. Media
By Sinan Salaheddin, Associated Press
Bombings and a mortar attack struck Shiite targets in Baghdad and north of the capital on Monday, killing at least 100 people and wounding scores in a further sign of what appeared to be a renewed campaign of Sunni insurgent violence.
The U.S. military also reported the deaths of two Marines, raising the two-day death toll to 27 in a particularly bloody weekend for American forces in Iraq.
\http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/17605
I guess you will heard about this. Our presence in that country is causing instability not bringing stability. We should try something new - namely, de-escalation.
rj....thx for your post at 7:21...it continues the conversation you and I were having yesterday...you are doing good work on this...most people don't understand that anything Mr.Bush proposes is designed to enrich the insurance companies and further his objective of destroying the middle class and reducing all of us to the poverty level, driving our old second hand cars to Walmart to buy cheap, inferior, second hand Chinese products.....John Boy....
"What War? Bush Expected to Ignore Iraq Quagmire in State of the Union, Promote Democrats' Domestic Agenda as His Own
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Whoa! Stop right there. Dems didn't run on a platform to increase taxes on employees with health care from their employers. Nor did they run on a platform to give tax breaks to people who buy health care on their own. This is more Bush-it ideology. As Krugman points out, all this will benefit is wealthy people who will drop their insurance via an employer and buy it on their own with the aid of more tax cuts. This doesn't have a pray of helping the health care crisis.
So, I look forward to the Chief Dunce talking about making ethanol from sawgrass ... oh wait, that was last year's speech ... maybe he'll shift to ethanol from brush (he is an expert on cutting the brush).
and remember sally history really means "his story" doesn't it? which ward were you on...open or secure?
When are we going to refute this nonsensical argument that we are fighting them over there so we won't have to fight them over here. Are terrorists so dumb that they will attack the most heavily armed targets (our troops) just for our convenience? If they could come here, they will and it don't matter at all what we do in Iraq.
I might actually watch tomorrow's SOTU, knowing that Bush is at the lowest popularity point of his Presidency, that Nancy Pelosi's approval rating is almost double Bush's. The squirming, the smirking, and the butchering of the American language might be something worth watching.
This health insurance fiasco, replacing last year's Social Security fiasco as the stupidest attempt to keep Americans from thinking about the Iraq fiasco, is bound create some boo's.
Giddy and geeked about this trainwreck before me...
speaking of under oath, the Libby trial will be very interesting. Neither he nor Cheney nor any other republicans they call have ANY credibility any more! MAKE CHENEY SIT ON A STACK OF BIBLES!
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pam, no can do - it would start a fire!
and remember sally history really means "his story" doesn't it? which ward were you on...open or secure?
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LOL ... I sure hope secure.
mikaren,
This health insurance fiasco, replacing last year's Social Security fiasco as the stupidest attempt to keep Americans from thinking about the Iraq fiasco, is bound create some boo's.
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This is way more dumb than his social security bamboozle ... which wasn't dumb just dishonest.
I think he'll catch yawns and frowns on this suggestion. Charles Rangel already panned it as a bad plan. It would almost certainly need Ways & Means to get it out. What I really hate is that this throws off the debate on real universal health care proposals. I suppose that's the real reason he is doing this.
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/sites/afterdowningstreet.org/files/images/resign_0.gif
SOTU Preview
Southern Iraqi Tribes Joining Armed Resistance
Submitted by davidswanson on Mon, 2007-01-22 17:14. Media
By Dahr Jamail and Ali al-Fadhily, Inter Press Service
BAGHDAD - Violence is spreading further across Iraq, as Shi'ite Arab
tribes in the south begin to engage occupation forces in new armed
resistance.
Resistance in the southern parts of Iraq has been escalating over the
last three months, leading to increased casualties among British and
other occupation forces.
In the last seven months, at least 24 British soldiers have been killed
in southern Iraq, with at least as many wounded, according to the
independent website Iraq Coalition Casualties. So far at least 128
British soldiers have died in Iraq, along with 123 of other
nationalities. Most of these have been stationed in southern Iraq.
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/17594
The bottom line is that the Iraqi people want the invaders out! They as much in 2003 and they are still saying it. It's time to really give them their freedom. We aren't bringing either peace or security to their country just more violence.
As Richard Clarke just said - The fact that we are fighting them over there doesn't prevent them from coming over here.
I would go further and say who is them anyway? Are we foolish enough to think all of Al Qaeda has been drawn into Iraq and is bogged down fighting us? If so, how did they succeed at bombing Spanish and British raillines?
rjsnj - that cartoon nailed what I had been typing for 3 paragraphs. That was awesome! I wish...
rjsnj - that cartoon nailed what I had been typing for 3 paragraphs. That was awesome! I wish...
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mikaren, a picture is worth a thousand words as the old saying goes. I sometimes wish I was a better artist.
Olbermann blasting everyone tonight. Looks like he's gunning for the Faux News liars (could this be the bogus Obama story?) and even the New York Post.
Olbermann calls Fox News the Fox Nothing Channel.
Indeed, he blasted both the Fox Nothing Channel and New York Post for the fake Obama/Clinton story.
I just checked out Olbermann, and wow! is he on a roll tonight!
Your MasterCard or Your Life
By Bob Herbert
The New York Times
Monday 22 January 2007
Americans are increasingly living in a house of cards - credit cards.
A disturbing new report shows that with health care costs continuing their sharp rise, low- and middle-income patients are reaching for their credit cards with alarming frequency to cover treatment that they otherwise would be unable to afford.
This medical debt, to be paid off in many cases at sky-high interest rates, is being loaded onto consumer debt that is already at dangerously high levels. Many families have been crushed by the load, driven from their homes, forced into bankruptcy, and worse.
The report, released last week, was jointly compiled by Demos, a public policy group in New York, and the Access Project, which is affiliated with a health policy institute at Brandeis University and is trying to broaden the availability of health care in the U.S.
Imagine for a moment the seriously ill patient who needs to be hospitalized. In the cold new world of health care, the primary message to such patients is often "Show me the money!"
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/012207E.shtml
All that Bush proposes to do is make matters worst! Dems should ignore the putz and put forward their own ideas.
good evening, truthseekers
joe trippi is on "state of belief" on Air America
mike malloy's archives will cost you now...Nova M needs your support, if you're a loyal fan
ten bucks a month or a hundred for the year. help pay Mike and Kathy's salary.
trippi is such a nice man. i wonder what he would say about the vitriolic exchanges here. he credited Rham with some great results and just pointed out, once again, that transactional politics are over.
he said Al Gore understood transformational politics better than any of the other candidates, with Edwards coming in close with his work on poverty as the goal and the campaign a vehicle...
interesting, he mentioned that he thought Newt would be the candidate.
i hope the troll is correct, since even a clock is twice a day, and we have the Newt as a candidate. he doesn't think the reThugs are conservative enough. go newtie...how many wives is that, now, three? hoooray for family values.
did anyone watch the Judiciary committee hearings?
if you enjoy watching train wrecks, i recommend the chimp, but tune in to see your leaders kickin' ass...it's good stuff!
later, time for malloy!
Oh great here goes Scarred-Bourough talking about a coming war with Iran ... Look if Bush gets out of Iraq and stops rattling the sabres, Iran would not be dangerous. Even Olmert of Israeli said we should stop exaggerating the danger from Iran. There goes the idiotic right wing media again.
later, time for malloy!
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Malloy rules the fool that calls himself the prez ... chimpy.
trippi is such a nice man. i wonder what he would say about the vitriolic exchanges here. he credited Rham with some great results and just pointed out, once again, that transactional politics are over. Posted by fade2bluz on January 22, 2007 at 09:02 PM
Yeah, like you never spent two years attacking the candidate you didn't like in here. I can't stand B.S. talking hypocrites.
"Conservative Values" versus "San Francisco Values":
ABC News/Washington Post Poll. Jan. 16-19, 2007. Adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.
Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?
Approve 33
Disapprove 65
Do you approve or disapprove of the way Nancy Pelosi is handling her job as speaker of the House?
Approve 54
Disapprove 25
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Chimpy, you lose.
28%
by RichM
Mon Jan 22, 2007 at 04:03:59 PM PST
When Dubya first slid into below 30% territory last May, many of us thought that he would be in Nixon territory on a permanent basis. But we saw his numbers stabilize over the summer and then to our shock, he once again pulled a rabbit out of the hat and delivered Zarqawi. This coincided with the 5th anniversary of 9/11 and a fall in oil prices and suddenly, his numbers were back in the forties again. The MSM went ape, per usually and Tweety even imagined his numbers rising above 50% before Christmas. But then the election happened, Iraq became explosive and everyone saw it as a Civil War (except the administration) the ISG report came out and said Dubya should declare victory and get the Hell out. But like a good little Neo-Con puppet, Dubya would have none of it. And then his numbers began to slide anew. Now, they have finally reached where they were in May and have surpassed that low mark.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/1/22/185246/643\
Chimpy McFool is only supported by frosted flake trolls.
Al Gore: The stockmarket is functionally insane
by Barcelona
Mon Jan 22, 2007 at 09:41:02 AM PST
On December 11, 2006, Al Gore spent an entire day at the Harvard Business School as part of his world-wide campaign against global warming. He had a well-honed, brilliantly targeted message for the young would-be MBA's in attendance. The crux of it: The stock market is functionally insane and civilization can't continue operating planet earth like a business in liquidation.
Bush II addresses health... in America!
by TimothyHorrigan
Mon Jan 22, 2007 at 06:27:45 PM PST
Bush II's 2007 State of the Union speech came just a couple of weeks after his "21,500 Troops Speech" which called for a "surge" of a little more than 20,000 more troops in Iraq. (This oddly small number was chosen for the simple reason that no more troops were available.)
His Dubyaness decided to divert attention away from the quagmire in Iraq by addressing domestic priorities for the first time in his 6-plus-year reign.
TimothyHorrigan's diary :: ::
His Dubyaness decided to divert attention away from the quagmire in Iraq by addressing domestic priorities for the first time in his 6-plus-year reign. The weekend before the speech, he issued an extraordinarily poorly received health care plan. He would offer a $7,500 tax deduction to singles and $15,000 to families if they bought any health insurance from any source. This would be funded by making what his spokespersons described as "gold-plated" and "Bentley" employer-provided plans (i.e., policies which cost more than $15,000/year.) The theory is that the tax deduction would create a surge of demand for individual health insurance polices, which the health insurance industry would meet by supplying affordable plans. (There are a few bugs in the plan, beginning with the fact that a tax deduction is of no use to low-paid workers who pay little or no federal income tax already, and ending with the fact that health insurers aren't meeting the demand which is already out there.)
It is not clear what the purpose of this plan is, since the Congress is highly unlikely to pass it. Perhaps Bush II is merely laying the groundwork for attack ads in 2008. Or, perhaps he is mollifying the lobbyist for the health insurance industry. (It is interesting that his spokespersons speak about the "success" of Medicare Part D, which is in fact an extraordinarily unpopular and ineffective program.)
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the chimp has bombed already even before opening his stupid mouth.
Yeah, like you never spent two years attacking the candidate you didn't like in here. I can't stand B.S. talking hypocrites.
Posted by Domingo on January 22, 2007 at 09:29 PM
Domingo,
you are a very bitter and disagreeable person. you have stated that you were an attorney but i doubted it then, as i do now. your personal attacks are tedious and your inability to be in the moment makes me wonder why you are attracted to this party. i have no desire to engage in an argument with you
you do not have any idea who i liked before Kerry won the nomination. the "cult of personality" is what i object to. there is a huge difference between transformational politics and that cult.
i'm still learning. maybe one day i'll know everything, just like you.
then, just f*ckin' shoot me. yeah?
I just checked out Olbermann, and wow! is he on a roll tonight!
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Olbermann pretty much nailed everyone - especially the fools and liars at the Fox Nothing Channel.
Frosty-the-moronic-ignoramus doesn't play well with others [either].
I can't stand B.S. talking hypocrites.
Posted by Domingo on January 22, 2007 at 09:29 PM
it was the first time i heard trippi speak in depth, for any length of time. you really are a piece of work. who wouldn't want to be on your team?
"Frosty" nutjobs
by algebrateacher
Sat Jan 13, 2007 at 02:24:58 PM PST
Is there something about the name "Frosty" that makes someone unhinged? Frosty Hardison is an activist in Federal Way, WA, trying to ban use of Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth" in the classroom. He's the one who has said that "condoms don't belong in the classroom and neither does Al Gore." His wife, an unsuccessful candidate for the school board, said she thinks the film is anti-America. Then there is Frosty Wooldridge, an anti-immigration activist whose first bugaboo (first of many; the fellow is anti-immigration the way Representative Goode, R-VA, is) is the 1965 Act of Congress legalizing the presence of Cuban refugees from Fidel.
Frosty-the-moronic-ignoramus doesn't play well with others [either].
Posted by Domingo on January 22, 2007 at 09:39 PM
well, darlin'
you seem to thoroughly enjoy playing with him so, enjoy...
Good Evening Fade.....hope you had a good day.....John Boy........
I can't stand B.S. talking hypocrites.
Posted by Domingo on January 22, 2007 at 09:29 PM
it was the first time i heard trippi speak in depth, for any length of time. you really are a piece of work. who wouldn't want to be on your team?
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Peace fellow Dems. It's not worth arguing over Joe Trippi?
Why don't you just cut your "holier than thou" attitude on this attacking crap, after all the attacking you did. And if you don't like me bringing that up, maybe you should try asking Tracy to ban me again. "Oh Tracy. Oh Tracy. Would you please ban Mr Domingo?" And what did you say about Donnie? "Consider the source"?
Hi John Boy,
good to see you. i actually had a wonderful day--how about you? haven't seen marine today...
fade, where's the link to sign up for Malloy's archives? I will definitely support his work.
Frank Luntz, Concern Troll
by Hunter
Mon Jan 22, 2007 at 06:43:58 PM PST
Frank Luntz has been guiding the use of GOP rhetoric for years. But he doesn't like what he sees, at the exact instant his own patrons are booted from power. Politics may have become blood sport under the GOP, but now Frank Luntz earnestly and sincerely wants a timeout.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/1/22/2116/11874
This is rich. Frank Luntz giving Dems linguistic advice. It's a form of concern trolling.
rj, read back. i didn't start the sh*t but it's been a long time since i laid back and took it. i've said what i wanted to say, though.
i joined up at NOVA for a year. glad they're doing this. i'll gladly pay ten bucks a month for malloy
i don't know how people watch t.v.
i just couldn't take it!
Fade...I had a good day...finished up a project...I've been in and out all day but Marine has not "surfaced" yet...Peace....John Boy....
sign up for nova m
this high school rant on MSNBC is too hilarious!!
Malloy blasting the MSM. I love it. He's right these jerks in the media are like a bunch of reality TV hosts. They must all be competing for judge on American Idol. What a bunch of feckless useless morons.
Malloy now raving at Lardball.
Yee Haa
hey, nice letter from B.R. upstream, John Boy.
you'll never believe this one...my dad's prostate reading (whatever that is) went from 2 to 9....
biopsy in two weeks...any suggestions?
i joined up at NOVA for a year. glad they're doing this. i'll gladly pay ten bucks a month for malloy
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I see. You join novaM. I'll look into that.
isn't he awesome! that whole high school msm analagy is so appropriate, though.
there are so many brilliant analysts and so much important news, we've become so technologically broadened and yet, the news shows from the sixties were far superior to these corporate celebrity shows
did you see the NY congressman's fairness doctrine initiative from Raw Story?
this high school rant on MSNBC is too hilarious!!
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fade, I was doubled over laughing. Malloy is so right. TV Media is a freak show. If it weren't for C-Span and Keith Olbermann (who has his share of silly stuff too) it would be useless.
did you see the NY congressman's fairness doctrine initiative from Raw Story?
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Nope but it's time again for that doctrine. I also read somewhere that the congress wants to establish a committee just on media issues - consolidation, fairness, accuracy, etc...
What an absymal misuse of technology TV is? But it does prove that technology can be as much a force for harm as good. It's all in how it's used.
Posted by rjsnj on January 22, 2007 at 09:52 PM
Healthy Congress Initiative indeed! did you see this?
'Fiscally conservative' Democratic faction refuses call to end war; Plans legislation focusing on accountability for funds Bush wants to spend on Iraq
Michael Roston
Published: Monday January 22, 2007
A group of forty-four "fiscally conservative" Democrats will not call for an end to America's military involvement in Iraq, RAW STORY has learned. Instead, the Blue Dog Coalition of House Democrats will introduce legislation this week focusing on accountability for money the White House wants to spend on the nearly four year long Iraq War.
In a press conference last Friday, Rep. Jane Harman, the California Democrat who was formerly the ranking minority member of the House Intelligence Committee, announced a bill she would sponsor this week on behalf of the Blue Dog Democrats: "Providing for Operation Iraqi Freedom Cost Accountability." The provisions of the bill focus on Congressional oversight of the funds used to pay for operations in Iraq.
The Blue Dogs will not speak out as a group on whether or not to call for an end to the Iraq war. "They will not draft a resolution or course regarding the troops other than one of support for our soldiers in harm’s way," said Jon Niven, Communications Director for Rep. Mike Ross (D-AR), who co-chairs the caucus.
Niven's language is comparable to a bill introduced by House Republicans leaders which resolves "to pledge the faithful support of Congress to members of the United States Armed Forces serving in harm's way," and states that "Congress will not cut off or restrict funding" for US troops in Iraq. However, several Blue Dog staffers told RAW STORY that the caucus hasn't held any formal meetings with House Republican leadership.
'Fiscally conservative' Democratic faction refuses call to end war; Plans legislation focusing on accountability for funds Bush wants to spend on Iraq
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Yes! That would be the so called Blue Dog Democrats led by Mike Ross. I just got through listening to him on C-Span. They definitely want a Truman commission for the Iraq spending and an end to budget supplementals. It's a good start.
By the way, the Blue Dogs are not necessarily antiwar just anti budget deficit.
A 9/11 victim's letter to Schumer, Clinton and Nadler
by plf515
Mon Jan 22, 2007 at 05:53:06 AM PST
I was in the WTC when the planes hit. I wrote a diary on this months and months ago.
But now, I've sent the diary, almost verbatim, to my Senators and my Representative. The text is below the fold.
If you have other ideas on how I could use this letter, please add a comment.
Thanks
plf515's diary :: ::
I'm a victim of 9/11. I was in the building when the plane hit.
Compared to some people, I was lucky: I wasn't injured. I kept my job. I got home easily. But compared to the vast majority of Americans, I am a victim. I had glass in my hair. I lost a year's work, and some irreplaceable items. My family went crazy for a while. My kid had nightmares. You explain to a 5 year old why (in his words) "They crashed into the building on purpose?" or reply to "I thought pilots were good people".
But I am a victim another way.
I share part of this other victimhood with all Americans. I am a victim, not of terror, but of the so-called `war on terror'. I am a victim of a government that is out-of-control. I am a victim of crushing national debt. I am a victim because I live in a country that went from having the sympathy of the world to one that is a pariah, an outcast among nations, a rogue state. I am a victim because I now have to `watch what I say'. I am a victim because my rights are violated, not by some nebulous and inimical group of terrorists, but by my own government.
They do not speak for me
But in another way, I do not share this other victimhood. My victimhood is being abused.
I have watched for years as my government - our government - has whittled away my rights, stolen my freedoms, and wrecked the constitution in the name of a false security. I have watched and watched and watched, as they have used my name - my victimhood - to make me a victim once again.
They do not speak for me
Fade...sounds like he had PSA test...PSA test sometimes gives false results...at a 9 it is time for the biopsy...need to catch prostate cancer before it moves....most forms of prostate cancer are "nonagressive"...slow moving...bladder cancer is usually very agressive...fast moving...if cought early, there are a lot more treatments today for both prostate and bladder cancer....he won't like the biopsy...but it is really not all that painful...just a sting or two....if you have any more questions, come back and I'll try to answer them.....love and peace....John Boy...
It's Bush's reality: World view of US 'worse' says BBC
by SteinL
Mon Jan 22, 2007 at 06:33:39 PM PST
The World Service survey, conducted at the behest of the BBC, asked 26,381 respondents around the world what they thought of the US.
Brace yourselves, it's official, 3/4 of the world disagrees with how Washington has dealt with Iraq. While 67% disapprove of Guantanamo.
The majority of the 26,381 respondents also disapproved of the way five other foreign policy areas have been handled. The poll, released ahead of President Bush's State of the Union speech, was conducted between November and January.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/1/22/213339/841
Actually, this is way better than I thought it would be. The next Prez needs to be one helluva of a diplomat.
View of US's global role 'worse'
The view of the role of the United States in the world has deteriorated, according to a BBC poll.
'Listen more' says world to US
'Listen more' is world's message to US
Full Story:
Posted by goodfoe on January 22, 2007 at 10:17 PM
thanks, that really helps...
View of US's global role 'worse'
The view of the role of the United States in the world has deteriorated, according to a BBC poll.
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kicking, we're on the same wavelength. Sad isn't it? The world was with us after 9/11 and the neocons just spent all of that "international capital". Kinda like Dumbo spending what little political capital he had in a couple of months on the social security privatization bamboozle.
Iraqis will never accept this sellout to the oil corporations.
The US-controlled Iraqi government is preparing to remove the country's most precious resource from national control.
Full Story:
Send a message that you don't agree with the President's escalation failed Iraq policy by signing Joe Biden's petition below.
We all know the reason why the world has a low opinion of us it's because of this lame duck President and his Republican Party. Keep the faith, things will change, we already got back the house and I'm pretty sure we will have a Democrat President next year in 2008 until then we just have to continue with liberal activism because at least now we have more people in office that will at least listen and consider the things we have to say.
we just have to continue with liberal activism because at least now we have more people in office that will at least listen and consider the things we have to say.
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I agree. Some of our pols need to take on the role of ambassador. Clearly, the neocons have no diplomatic talents. They are nothing but fascist thugs. The world is responded as poorly to them as they would with any thuggish dictatorship.
Iraqis will never accept this sellout to the oil corporations.
The US-controlled Iraqi government is preparing to remove the country's most precious resource from national control.
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This is likely to increase the violence even more. Is that what the neocons really want?
They seem to be doing their to pour gasoline on the fire.
Hi, everyone.
Why is there so much bad blood between Fox and MSNBC? Is it just hype to keep the audience hooked? I wonder. We all know O'Reilly likes to play the victim. But you'd think that the NBC crowd would quit fueling his persecution complex.
I see Bush is going to rob Peter to pay for Paul again in his state of the Union. The Republicans never tire of playing their shell games with those that actually work for a living.
I understand he is going to propose some kind of tax incentive for those that buy insurance (which most poor people can't) while for the first time in history making any company based medical benefits taxable income. In other words he wants to raise taxes on the middle class again...under the guise of being a compassionate conservative.
Funny how rich folks' income is never considered income. But those in the middle class are suppose to pay for all the services these people use...and also fund the uninsured.
The GOP squeeze on the middle class just keeps on morphing into new and more degrading forms. They continue to assume that "the little people" are so stupid and gullible that they won't notice the Republican slight of hand.
This should go over as well as the RNC Social Security reform. It's just the sort of arrogance that is going to alienate the very folks that Reagan won over...so maybe they never get them back.
Why can't Republicans ever attempt to solve problems? Our medical delivery system is in chaos and must be fixed. Setting up new tax havens that benefit mostly the wealthy is a lame diversion that has worn thin with middle class voters who are really feeling the burden these days. I suppose it's because the GOP thinks of health care as only a commodity not a necessity.
They think wrong. As they think wrong on everything else of any consequence domestically or foreign. It's become almost comical to listen to their pundits rattling on about how the rest of us "should" live. The GOP windbags are their own worst enemies.
And Bush is the biggest windbag of then all. Hail to the Chief Nutcase. He's going to alienate generations to come...while the Leslie Grahams and Brownbacks of the GOP facilitate his madness and their party's destruction.
It's crazy. They're suicidal and loving it. I guess it's a compulsion. It's got to be one of the strangest political phenomenons in history. Just how loony can they get before the 2008 elections?
Fade...One thing I should have mentioned,...if prostate cancer is cought early the survival rate is very high.....so, don't worry too much at this point. A 9 is a red flag but if it were up in the 40's then I would really be worried. As long as it is cought before it spreads, even with surgury, the prospect of resuming a normal life is very good....love and Peace....John Boy...
Gotta laugh when Bush says it will be a disaster to put the oil resources in "terrorists hands" - meaning the Iraqi people. I think the disaster would be putting Iraq's oil resources in the neocons hands. Bush sounds more and more like Hitler talking about his Northern resource area in Mein Kampf (meaning the oil he wanted in Russia).
The GOP squeeze on the middle class just keeps on morphing into new and more degrading forms. They continue to assume that "the little people" are so stupid and gullible that they won't notice the Republican slight of hand.
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sandy, once working people understand this, the GOP will be more unpopular than ever. They like to chuckle about Hillary Care ... this is way more unpopular because it's in effect a rip off of the middle class. So much for the GOP because against tax increases ... that myth is now over!
The GOP is handing us the WH and even more Senate/House seats in 2008 on a silver platter.
Bottom line ... there's really nothing to fear as this is a non-starter. It will hurt the GOOPERS though. We'll frame as the GOP's rip off of the middle class.
So much for the GOP because against tax increases ... that myth is now over!
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So much for the GOP beings against tax increases ... that myth is now over! They only favor tax cuts for billionaires and oil companies.
The GOP is handing us the WH and even more Senate/House seats in 2008 on a silver platter.
Bottom line ... there's really nothing to fear as this is a non-starter. It will hurt the GOOPERS though. We'll frame as the GOP's rip off of the middle class.
Posted by rjsnj on January 22, 2007 at 10:41 PM
Somehow knowing they are handing it to us makes me wonder what they have up their sleeves. How can this whitehouse let their party self destruct?
SandyH...I can not even imagine what box of fruit loops they opened up this time to try to continue their attempted rape of the middle class...they're out beyond Pluto somewhere.....John Boy.....
Somehow knowing they are handing it to us makes me wonder what they have up their sleeves. How can this whitehouse let their party self destruct?
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esmeralda, I can only speculate. I think we know that Bush is an extreme ideologue. As a young man in college, he was attracted to the idea of helping to destroy the New Deal. He literally sees himself as the anti-Roosevelt. I think Bush really believes in the ideology of the ownership society. I don;t think he can break free of it.
The question I wonder is why doesn't his party break with Bush? The more Republicans embrace Bush's extreme ideology, the more unpopular they become. So, we shall see if they keep going down this path or attempt to change directions.
I think if they continue down the same diseased ideological path they will continue to lose big.
Posted by rjsnj on January 22, 2007 at 10:33 PM
Hi, rjsnj.
I think the neocons really don't have any idea that they have failed.
They think they are conducting a long term experiment that requires lots of sacrifice...by others. Why should they care if things are not going smoothly just as long as somebody else and their children have to do the heavy lifting?
The GOP hypothesis was flawed from the get go. The experiment was set up with no clear goals, so they have no way of evaluating it.
Their biggest incorrect assumption was that after 9/11 the "common people" would be willing to live by their long term, afflucent views of the world stage.
But "common people" never live in anything but the short term. When you are living paycheck to paycheck, slowly trying to climb up the economic ladder there is nothing but short term. In a outsourced, multinational world the short term has become hell.
No one wants to go to hell...well, mabe the GOP does.
Bush sounds more and more like Hitler talking about his Northern resource area in Mein Kampf (meaning the oil he wanted in Russia).
Posted by rjsnj on January 22, 2007 at 10:37 PM
The situation in Iraq sounds so much like the Battle of Stalingrad where the Soviet Union finally stopped Hitler. He was going after their oil in the Crimea. Stalingrad was the turning point in World War II in Europe. I still say bush is the reincarnation of Hitler. rove is probably the reincarnation of his propaganda minister Goebbels.
By the way, the ownership society comes right out of the CATO institute - a right wing think tank. It's entirely possible that Bush bought into CATO's insanity. CATO's main mission has been to bust unions.
I still say bush is the reincarnation of Hitler. rove is probably the reincarnation of his propaganda minister Goebbels.
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Good analogy John. Rove is definitely a Goebbels type of character. Cheney is a Goering type of guy - greedy to an extreme, vain and arrogant.
But "common people" never live in anything but the short term. When you are living paycheck to paycheck, slowly trying to climb up the economic ladder there is nothing but short term. In a outsourced, multinational world the short term has become hell.
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Sandy, you are absolutely right. That's why we refer to these people as elites. They have so much wealth that they have moved on from money to power. Of course, they still care about money but only in as much as it brings more power.
It's age old struggle. In the past, we had a wealthy nobility. Now, we have a wealthy business class - a new nobility if you will. They are trying to institute a new age feudalism - with the common people being serfs that are owned by the business masters.
Of course, it's an insane idea in a world where the serfs so outnumber the wealthy and can so easily resist them. But, I suppose the lust for power and greed knows no bounds.
rjsnj
That's a coincidence. I was just thinking that cheney is like Goering.
21st century feudalism, NASCAR fans
i like this analagy
Sandy, do you have sand in your shoes?
Posted by goodfoe on January 22, 2007 at 10:35 PM
John,
I enjoyed your book even though it was so painful to read. It reminds me so much of what my mother-in-law went through with her cancer treatment. She, too, lives with the scars.
It was important that someone put it down on paper to share with others. Before others make decisions they need to know what the consequences can entail. I appreciate you doing it.
It takes so much courage to ask questions of those that you assume have answers but really don't. Our health really lies in our own hands and that of God.
My brother-in-law is a doctor. He tried to guide his mother who resisted any treatment and then gave in. It was a long and grueling ordeal that ended up badly. He now admits he should have stayed out of her decisions. She alone must now live with them.
But she carries on bravely with a wonderful wit and resolve. I admire her spirit...and your's.
The insurance industry continues to complicate not ease the pain of treatment. I guess we all have had to fight back at some time. Fighting the viruses and germs is hard enough. Fighting the system drains what little is left...if you let it.
You just have to make up your mind to meet any crisis head on and then arm yourself with as many facts as possible to get through it. I hope I will be strong enough when the time comes for me to make the choices thrust upon me with some degree of dignity.
Thank you for sharing your life experience. It will surely help many of us.
Sandy, do you have sand in your shoes?
Posted by fade2bluz on January 22, 2007 at 11:19 PM
Hi, fade.
No, it's all over the carpet now that I unpacked.
And in my head. I'm so relaxed and sleepy. I could really go for that kind of laid back way of life. It's a shame reality requires that I trudge on. Why did I have children? I could have been a beach bum.
21st century feudalism, NASCAR fans
i like this analagy
Sandy, do you have sand in your shoes?
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fade, good article. Highest probablity though is that the IMF would take over and run our economy in case of a governmental collapse. Either way, iy would be miserable for the serfs left behind as the nobles, Cheney, end up hitting the jackpot.
Lots of possible scenarios including riots and revolution. I have no doubt that part of reason the Bushies have put a police state in place is to take control when the economy melts down. It's all a matter of how badly will it meltdown. If we can restore some measure of sanity, we may avoid a total disaster but very high inflation and interest rates are highly likely.
That's it for me tonight. BBL.
cool! MY college, Knox College, is being discussed on Colbert Report now! Wicked!
SandyH....Thank you so much...I just wanted to document our story so that hopefully others would not have to go thru it. The health care industry is full of greed and criminal activity. I continue to write letters, etc. sometimes I feel like "I'm spittin' into the wind" but I will not give up.....as long as I'm able to write and speak out that is what I will do ....thx again for your kind words...it means alot...John Boy...
Posted by SandyH on January 22, 2007 at 11:29 PM
i missed you, and i'm very glad you're back. you deserved a delightful vacation, and i'm glad you'll keep those memories in that vivid imagination of yours.
why did we have kids?
Karen--are you geeked that your school is on? nice to see you--look forward to seeing more of you in the future.
John Boy~ you never know what that next letter will connect with...or how it will impact the reader. thanx for all that you do
rj, see you later
goodnight y'all...keep it lit~
Today passports to reenter the country. Tomorrow identity papers to go shopping or be seen on the street.
Somehow knowing they are handing it to us makes me wonder what they have up their sleeves. How can this whitehouse let their party self destruct?
Posted by Esmeralda on January 22, 2007 at 10:47 PM
Hi, Essie.
How was Washington? How were the parties? Did you get to meet everyone you wanted and get in a few jabs here and there for voting reform? We're counting on you to use your new contacts and increased networking opportunities.
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The GOP will have so many Jokers up its sleeves it will be a challenge for our leadership to stay on course. I really think we need another, second 100 hour agenda. And a third and a fourth. My, there are so many things like alternative fuels and voting reform to be addressed. This is our opportunity to get something going on all those fronts.
I think we can expect a strike on Iran and at least another attempt on Chavez’s life if not an outright attack to grab the Venezuelan oil. The White House will keep the foreign upheaval going in Iraq and elsewhere just to deflect from the disheartening jobs picture on the domestic front.
I suppose Hispanics will continue being the new whipping boys for the Republicans. They need someone to lay all the blame for their incompetence. Look for them to ratchet up the hysteria among the bigots on illegals.
And then there is always those lazy poor (code word for black) people, baby killing feminists, and gays to kick around. When you don't have anything to offer of substance but war and killing, hate-mongering and racism is always Plan B with the GOP.
And I suppose there might be another terris attack...real or imagined. Probably imagined like that dumb British chemical bomb, airplane plot that has everyone buying sample bottles of health and beauty supplies (I didn’t know Halliburton had cornered that market, too.).
Al Queda really doesn’t have to attack anymore just make threats and the White House propaganda machine acts like we really were attacked. "Run for the hills and give up your Constitutional rights. You need our protection."
I think war profiteering could be our Ace in the Hole in 2008. I bet every Republican incumbent has made money off of the Iraqi occupation in some way. Just how much that equates to in lost and maimed US forces would be an interesting statistic.
Iraq will not get any better. Al Sadr will pull back and wait for the 2008 elections...and let the "insurgents" keep the chaos going. At this point, even while they are fighting each other, I think the Sunnis and Shiites are working together for the greater good of getting rid of the infidels.
Those additional 20,000 American troops will continue to receive more bonuses and more causalties to keep The Big Lie going for the GOP.
As long as everyone is making more money, you won't hear too many complaints...publicly at least...from the front lines. It's pretty sad. With the economy so weak those with the most to lose feel this is the best deal they can cut right now.
Good Early Morn,
I hope everyone watches the Chimps Speech just so that at the very least, they will be able to communicate on the Blogs and be in the know.
:)
Today passports to reenter the country. Tomorrow identity papers to go shopping or be seen on the street.
Posted by Johnedwrd on January 23, 2007 at 12:02 AM
John,
Big Brother has put up so many cameras on the streets, supposedly for traffic and security, that idenity papers aren't even necessary.
They've put computer chips in our products and GEO positioning devices in our cars. They're even advocating implanting chips in children to keep them safe from predators (everywhere but in the House).
Miliatry police operating in our country without any court supervision....it's a brave new world with a bunch of paranoid incompetents at the reigns. Thank the Lord "They" are only disfunctional Republicans not real Nazis.
I'm calling it a night, too. Sleep well everyone.
Good Night all who just went to bed. I'm going to the Progressive Blogs for a bit.
bbl....
Hi, FOS.
Glad to see you will be holding down the fort for us tonight as usual. I don't like turning off the lights and putting out the cat knowing only the troll is still present. I don't want any who are left here having to spar with The Honorable without some guidance.
I, too, can't wait to see Pelosi looking over the Chimp's shoulder tonight. Maybe she can give him the hook every time he lies? I hope she wears a big Cross and some garlic...having to sit next to Cheney.
I'm off to bed. Good night.
Kind of surprised to see McAuliffe's book being pushed in an email from the DNC. From what I hear it is favorable mostly to the Clintons, and is not very nice to John Kerry. To promote a book through an email that attacks the party's 04 nominee is not very nice.
Maybe no one has read it yet. But it is not nice to Kerry. Not sure about other people.
If one book is promoted, maybe the books written by all the Democrats should be.
ARE YOU GOING TO LET 386 PEOPLE IN ONE AREA DETERMINE HOW YOU VOTE?
The Media thinks you are just that dumb enough. That's why they keep feeding you these cheap poll results like it's NATIONAL.
386 Flippen People
This Poll looks good and strong and meaningful don't it? It's only 386 PEOPLE. That's what? Downtown? We're going to vote at the polls based on 386 people? Heck no! We're waking up today!
Democratic Presidential Primary Contenders
Hillary Rodham Clinton 22%
Barack Obama 21%
John Edwards 15%
Al Gore 7%
John Kerry 4%
Joe Biden 4%
You know those Big Ole Poll Results they show on CNN as if it's Breaking News ? Well, would you consider a cheap poll of only 386 people who may be might gonna possible probably vote Democrat, as something that deserves NATIONAL attention? I don't but the Media does.
Check this out.
My point is this. The Media is cherry picking from all these Polls and then trying to suggest that they speak for the entire party and nation as a whole. I'm sorry, but 386 people in some hick town somewhere or in this case, A Polititian's District in their state, don't speak for the entire nation. So, despite the hype and excitement in the voices, don't get all crazy over what 386 people who probably all live in the same city, voting for the same person determine your vote.
I could make this news. 79% of America wants a Black American President according to the following poll. Now we all know they’re way too many Bigots in this nation for that to be true, we can take polls and say whatever we want.If they asked five people that, and four said yes and one said no, that's 80% right there. See my point?
One more:
Obama Has A Higher Favorability Rating Than Clinton
This concludes my lesson on POlls. So the next time you see Chris Matthews or Wolf Blizter touting off these brand new Breaking News Polls, you can laugh and say to yourself,
" 386 People is hardly a NATIONAL poll "
;p
Good morning FOS and anyone else out there
Polls - a waste of effort and their results should be taken with a grain of salt and depending on the poll maybe a box of salt.
Stats and the variables affecting them can be skewed to throw any desired result. Folks that are scientific in approaching their subject data and desire a TRUE result are always careful in the selection and placemnt of both data and the variables.
Saying that about polls I know Frosty definitely isn't on the receiving end of any valid polls.
The last few decades have really shown just how truthful SOUNDING something may come across, but just how much of a lie that it can actually be.
The last decade has pretty much been nonstop lies for the american public so much so that a back hoe is needed to haul all the crap away.
Take for instance, the phrase War on Terror, a lie if there ever was one. What terror? Only what has been preconceived and devised as a smoke screen for other things. Remember the War on Drugs? Ha ! Now that's a joke if there ever was one. The Feds themselves were/are hauling the stuff in here by plane, train or whatever moveable vehicular manner. Oh yeah and Hillary being a liberal! Lies! Lies! Lies!
Here's the best lie of all - News!!!
http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=45
CNN debunks false report about Obama
POSTED: 2:01 a.m. EST,
January 23, 2007
Snip:
JAKARTA, Indonesia (CNN) -- Allegations that Sen. Barack Obama was educated in a radical Muslim school known as a "madrassa" are not accurate, according to CNN reporting.
Insight Magazine, which is owned by the same company as The Washington Times, reported on its Web site last week that associates of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-New York, had unearthed information the Illinois Democrat and likely presidential candidate attended a Muslim religious school known for teaching the most fundamentalist form of Islam.
Obama lived in Indonesia as a child, from 1967 to 1971, with his mother and stepfather and has acknowledged attending a Muslim school, but an aide said it was not a madrassa.
Insight attributed the information in its article to an unnamed source, who said it was discovered by "researchers connected to Senator Clinton." A spokesman for Clinton, who is also weighing a White House bid, denied that the campaign was the source of the Obama claim.
He called the story "an obvious right-wing hit job."
Insight stood by its story in a response posted on its Web site Monday afternoon.
The Insight article was cited several times Friday on Fox News and was also referenced by the New York Post, The Glenn Beck program on CNN Headline News and a number of political blogs.
Posted by J on January 23, 2007 at 06:22 AM
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Hi J,
Yeah. Those polls only purpose is to sway voters. Why do you think these Media pundts take a small poll with 368 people, and then report it as if it's some national refereandum and then "Talk" about it with Democratic and Republican Srategists? (Which is questionable to say the least) They are clearly trying to sway the American people. If they told their audience up front that it was only 386 people in the entire nation over a five day period in a certain part of the country who had this idea, then I don't think it would have the same effect.
People can be funny when they act on ignorance.I crack up. The polls didn't determine the 2006 Election. Noone thought we would get the Senate and they fought till the end, the fact that we would take the House. Remember? Republicans refused to conceded till the very end. They all looked like total stupid idiots. Ha Ha Ha. Someone else is going to look stupid in November of next year when she/he loses too.
Hi FOS and good foe
goodfoe - will probably start some more digging sometime this week. Found myself getting obsessed/disgusted. had to take a breather.
And he hates watermelon.
Posted by HisHonor*Frosty* on January 23, 2007 at 04:38 AM
and this is why I don't eat watermemlon now because of the racial connotation.
FOS
Some folks live/die by polls. Now that's waht cracks me up.
Tons of foundations have gone to New Orleans and the Gulf Coast region all in the name of "how can I help?"
I actuality they haven't helped any of the people in the region due to being so obsessed with accountability and that term "show me how I can help you". Show me? Hell look around!!! Not exactly rocket science here.
The non-profits and foundations are so pre-occupied with accountablity they are totally lost on what their true purpose is.
They just want to be able to show their Board of Directors in 8/10 glossys some pamphalet or printed production of what they did for the Katrina effort. Basically saying: "See what our funding has accomplished" when in truth it didn't accomplish a damn thing.
J....I eat watermellon as often as I can. I'm not going to let some idiot rob me of any kind of food. I have to keep my weight up....I'm listening to the TV behind me...Brazoria County(Tex.) has a new proposed ordinance to ban the use of the "N" word...Seems to have a lot of support.....interesting...we'll see what happens on that....
and this is why I don't eat watermemlon now because of the racial connotation.
Posted by J on January 23, 2007 at 06:42 AM
LOL. I don't eat any type of Melon because the acid makes my mouth, ears and sinuses itch. It's so annoying.
Gotta run folks
FOS, keep the faith, girl :)
Peace \/
Posted by J on January 23, 2007 at 06:54 AM
I will J,
Talk to you later today if all goes well with my hook up .
;p
Good Morning FOS...how you doing this AM?
Posted by goodfoe on January 23, 2007 at 06:47 AM
Hi.
I've been all over the Blogs doing some "opposition research,counter opposition research"
LOL
;p
Mornin', Dems!
Posted by FreedomOfSpeechForBarackObama2008 on January 23, 2007 at 06:25 AM
So, Freedom, it wasn't Hillary spreading those lies about Obama? It was those trashy pugs? ;-)
Soft On The Eyes 2008!
Our side has three good looking guys while the Republicans side only has one.(RG)
The Presidential Contenders.
So, Freedom, it wasn't Hillary spreading those lies about Obama? It was those trashy pugs? ;-)
Posted by Cyn_NY on January 23, 2007 at 07:11 AM
(Ha Ha )
Actually, I'm still working on obtaining a full confirmation. I discovered some things about Hills Senior Camp Mgr. He's been accused of dirty tricks before. See the Party Builder. I have some unanswered questions relating to motive.
With the 2008 Democratic presidential field taking shape fast, Senator John F. Kerry still hasn't decided whether to join the race, and maintains that the early announcements from other candidates won't push him to act in haste , according to Kerry aides and associates.
Kerry has indicated that he will announce his intentions by the end of January, in keeping with his publicly stated intention to do so "shortly after the turn of the year." His aides have drafted a "John Kerry for President '08" financial plan that will restart his fund-raising efforts with a series of house parties organized by activists around the country -- if he decides to pursue the presidency again
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/01/23/as_kerry_ponders_democrats_crowd_in/
C-Span is asking for callers that support the war for the first 40 minutes. I hope the 24 or so idiots that still support it are up early today!
Good morning, goodfor. I am well. Still trying to decide if I am going to actually watch the SOU tonight. I have a lot of trouble watching the jerk.
Cyn,
Ted Kennedy is even waiting it out for him to announce.
;p
Cyn,
Here's a snip regarding my unanswered question:
Hillary Clintons Senior Campaign Adviser, Howard Wolfson was asked by Chris Matthews on Hardball yesterday if he has an Opposition Research Team. (The function of this group is to dig up things about the opponent and smear them with their past in an effort to increase your chances.) So, in light of the Attack against Barack, Mr. Wolfson was asked if Hillary's Campaign had such a group. I noticed when asked, Howard's face went blank and turned White. Not the white people kind of White, but rather the "Oh Shet" kind of White. He refrained from answering the question as to whether or not they have an Opposition Research Team set up. It took a few more tries by Mr. Matthews until Wolfson finally responded with something to the effect of;
(Continue Reading)
"If our team is attacked whether by a Democrat or a Republican, we will respond and we will respond with an aggressive force"
Gee. I wonder why he was being so defensive. Did he not realize he looked guiltier by the way he acted? Why so uptight all of a sudden? Is it because the only person who would have something to gain from Barack Obama getting that negative attention like that would be someone who felt that Barack Obama was their ONLY obstacle to winning the Democratic Nomination? Is it because this is not the first time Howard Wolfson was asked about doing something fishy for political reasons and telling stories to Right-Wing Media Outlets? I did some digging and I find this rather odd.
See. I don't have an answer for his sudden change in behavior. I'm gonna try to find the interview on You Tude so you can see the about face he did when he was asked.
Posted by Cyn_NY on January 23, 2007 at 07:18 AM
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Oh CYN you have to so we can all rip on him. C'mon. We won't be able to watch real T.V anyway because he'll be on so we may as well rip him to shreads.
Please? Watch and Blog? A lot of people are going to be doing that. It's fun.
:)
Good morning, everyone.
Today/tonight is the night I've been waiting to watch tv since the last "speech" to we the people. I also can't wait to see our Democratic leaders. Doesn't it feel great to know we run the House? I'm sure they will greet w with respect as he makes his way to the podium, so I won't get bent out of shape. I wonder if lieberman will get a kiss?
Sorry to sound like a media goober with all the silly nonessential bites and questions. I'm just in a giddy mood. Or maybe I haven't had enough coffee.
Wed. thru Fri. I'm off to the Ohio Association of Election Officials winter conference. Now that is a reason to be hyped up! Opening session guest speaker is our new Sec. of State, Jennifer Brunner. Immediately following is a reception with not only Jennifer, but our newly elected democratic Attorney General, Marc Dann, and democratic Treasurer of State, Richard Cordray! I'm stoked!
Cyn...I wouldn't miss it for anything...Bush may come apart and I want to watch Pelosi's expressions as he speaks......she'll be sitting behind him....this ought to be good!!bbs
Hi, Essie.
How was Washington? How were the parties? Did you get to meet everyone you wanted and get in a few jabs here and there for voting reform? We're counting on you to use your new contacts and increased networking opportunities.
Posted by SandyH on January 23, 2007 at 12:17 AM
Washington is interesting. I love the old townhouses. Not enough time to site see. Maybe I'll go back a time or two. Z's parties were fun. Seeing and watching him on the floor the first day had me (as well as the rest of 100 of his supporters) floating on a cloud! When he said, "The winds of change brought me here." I was shaking. I wonder where he heard that line from before? ;)
I did talk to Rep. Allan Sayre about election reform. He, along with my St. Rep. Jennifer Garrison, will be meeting with a few election officials sometime in the next couple of months. I'm watching the new and approved HAVA bill that rep. doolittle (r) has introduced in the house. No co-sponsors.
Cyn...I wouldn't miss it for anything...Bush may come apart and I want to watch Pelosi's expressions as he speaks......she'll be sitting behind him....this ought to be good!!bbs
Posted by goodfoe on January 23, 2007 at 07:28 AM
Exactly! This is just one of the reasons why I was looking forward to a Democrtic Controlled Congress. We didn't get to celebrate in November when we won. We can celebrate tonight.
;p
Hi gregg
:)
good morning, y'all
deja vu
The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) is disputing claims that Iran has barred 38 nuclear inspectors from visiting the country, RAW STORY can reveal.
A Reuters report earlier today -- followed up by a report from AP -- sent shockwaves through the international community by airing allegations that Iran had kicked out inspectors from the U.N. atomic watchdog organization. Iran's Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki posited that Iran had barred 38 inspectors with the U.N. nuclear watchdog.
This, however, does not align with comments from the IAEA itself. Shockingly, no comment from the agency appeared in either Reuters or AP's article.
"We are discussing with Iran its request for withdrawing the designation of certain safeguards inspectors," IAEA spokeswoman Melissa Fleming said, in response to an email query from RAW STORY.
"It should be noted however," she added, "that there are a sufficient number of inspectors designated for Iran and the IAEA is able to perform its inspection activities in accordance with Iran's Comprehensive Safeguards Agreement."
Fleming did not say Iran had barred inspectors. She added, "Details of inspector designation is a confidential matter between the IAEA and the country concerned."
Sources within the IAEA told the German Press Agency (dpa) that while the ban was not a normal daily occurrence, there were still 150 designated inspectors for Iran, and that other countries had also, on occasion, withdrawn designations.
emphasis mine
Bush speech comes at presidency's nadir
"People don't have confidence in him or his trustworthiness, and both of those undermine his ability to bounce back," said George C. Edwards III, a presidential scholar at Texas A&M University.
well it seems like its time for all those other scientists who i keep hearing exist to put out their report on how we can just keep pumping CO2 and god knows what else into the atmosphere and it won't matter at all because all the scientists who are actually producing any reports seem to have come to a consensus:
‘Smoking gun’ for human-caused warming
1,600-page climate report, out in February, says evidence is compelling
Updated: 2 hours, 27 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Human-caused global warming is here — visible in the air, water and melting ice — and is destined to get much worse in the future, an authoritative global scientific report will warn when it's released next month.
“The smoking gun is definitely lying on the table as we speak,” said top U.S. climate scientist Jerry Mahlman, who reviewed all 1,600 pages of the first segment of a giant four-part report. “The evidence ... is compelling.”
Andrew Weaver, a Canadian climate scientist and study co-author, went even further: “This isn’t a smoking gun; climate is a battalion of intergalactic smoking missiles.”
and tonite we hear from the master of this disaster and so many others
The USA produce controlling WEATHER-ATTACKS aganist the World with WEATHER-CONTROL-STATIONS for sure the World Control by, of USA and destoring the Futur of ALL ANOTHERS CONTRIES OF THE WORLD !
USA will be DESTORY and the USA and ALL HUMANS will be for Their War Crimes aganist World to death are condemned !
ALL ANOTHER NATIONS OF WORLD DO NOT LEAVE THEMSELVES TO THESE UNPARALLELED DOCUMENTS OF THE FORCE, ANY MORE OFFERING, ALL THE SAME WHETHER CHINA, INDIA, RUSSIA, PAKISTAN, IRAN OR GREAT BRITAIN, FRANCE, CANADA, AUSTRALIA, EUROPEAN !
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bushworld just keeps going on and on. it is time for impeachment and then some:
Bombs strike Shiite targets in Baghdad, killing 5 people
Posted 1/23/2007 6:08 AM ET
BAGHDAD (AP) — Two bombs struck two Shiite targets in separate areas of Baghdad on Tuesday, killing five people, a day after a double car bombing that tore through the stalls of a market crowded with Shiites elsewhere in the capital left 88 dead — the bloodiest attack in two months.
The military also announced the deaths of two more U.S. troops, including a Marine who died Sunday from fighting south of Baghdad, raising the weekend death toll to 28 as American casualties mount ahead of a U.S.-Iraqi security operation.
An American soldier also was killed Monday in the volatile Anbar province west of the capital, the military said...
...In other violence Tuesday, according to police:
• Police pulled a bullet-riddled body that showed signs of torture from the Tigris River in Suwayrah, 40 kilometers (25 miles) south of Baghdad.
•Gunmen shot to death an Iraqi contractor in the predominantly Shiite town of Musayyib, 60 kilometers (40 miles) south of Baghdad.
•A roadside bomb struck a police patrol in Mosul, killing one policemen and wounding two. Gunmen also clashed with Iraqi police elsewhere in the northern city, leaving three police dead. Three insurgents also were killed and two arrested, police said.
Posted by DR_PETER_KERSTEN on January 23, 2007 at 07:49 AM
That sure brightened my day.
well, the bankruptcy bill was a huge
success
NEW YORK (Reuters)
- Bank of America Corp. (BAC.N: Quote, Profile , Research), the No. 2 U.S. bank, said on Tuesday that fourth-quarter profit rose 47 percent, topping analysts' forecasts, helped by increased credit card fees and deposits.
Scooter's looking mighty pale in this photo
The perjury trial of former White House official Lewis "Scooter" Libby begins on Tuesday, but the investigation has already laid bare the Bush administration's internal workings and damaged the independence of the news media.
Vice President Dick Cheney is among the prominent government officials and journalists expected to testify in a case that will examine the White House and the Washington press corps as the nation went to war in Iraq in 2003.
Good morning Fade...I've been writing letters about The "Bankruptcy" law, bgt. and paid for by the credit card companies and big banks....John Boy...
g'morning, johnboy
bluzy, I've been to about 25 NASCAR races in my lifetime. Believe me, the crowd was more excited over the roar of the plane cheney arrived in, not cheney.
It won't be long until only the elite can attend live to hear and feel those 800 horses. Those would be some highly paid redneck hillbillies!
Off to the office. I'm the only one there today. I guess I won't offend anybody with news playing leading up to w's spellbounding speech.
Enjoy the morning, everyone.
Fade...I quit paying Bank Of America about a year ago...Believe my balance was $2,900 at that time. Recently got a bill from them for over $9,000 with late fees and penalities....Very profitable deal on paper......John Boy......
Good morning everyone! Fade, here is Horsey's prediction for the SOTU Tonight
{{Kristen}} you never disappoint!
John Boy--you said the key words "on paper"
i'll be laughing on my way to work, thanks to you guys...
except gregg, who was decidedly NOT funny this morning. i think he's saving his good material for the speech.
maybe we'll get that internet weekly snack before i have to leave
well, you can't say that Chucklenutz isn't a competitor...with 28% approval ratings and two years (theoretically) to go, he's well on his way to earning the title, "Worst President Ever"
although he does hold the trophy and belt for "Worst President Since Nixon"
enjoy the day, everyone!
This may find it's way to be reposted when we get a new SOTU open thread, but just in case I get busy and forget.
The real state of the union
WASHINGTON — For those of you who can't wait until tonight's big speech, my fellow Americans, here's the real state of the union:
A president who reduces the near-infinite variety of humankind to "with us" or "against us" has mired the nation in a disastrous, unnecessary war. Comparisons with Vietnam are imprecise — the American casualties in Iraq are lower, the geopolitical stakes much higher and the damage to our nation's standing in the world incalculable.
Some believe that the president sees clearly the futility of his ill-advised war, and that at this point he's just stalling so his successor will take the fall for an eventual American withdrawal. Those cynics are wrong; George W. Bush has demonstrated time and again that he values resolve over reason.
The us-or-them president is now assuming an elbows-out posture toward Iran that is disturbingly reminiscent of the run-up to war in Iraq — denunciations, threats, a military buildup in the Persian Gulf. Haven't we seen this movie before?
Oh, and the president's tic of smiling at inappropriate moments — such as when he's answering a question from Scott Pelley or Jim Lehrer about the human costs of the war — has become a little scary.
Good morning, everyone.
fade,
I think non-violent protests have the potential of causing far more change for peace in the Middle East than any western-style democratic elections or violent attacks by groups like Hezbalha or Hamas. This is the only way ordinary people have to address the maddness that has been thrust upon them by others.
I'm looking to new leaders coming forward from the masses...not the politicans and established gangs of thugs who now rule the Middle East. They will forge the future. That was how Solidarity in Poland finally brought down the dominance of the Soviet Union....not Reagan.
Don't you love the way the GOP takes credit for the acts of bravery and sacrifice by others whenever possible? These frauds actually believe their own publicity.
Morning all,
Wonder if IraqWarVet read this in armytimes?
Hope he understand that the Defense Dept comes under the jurisdiction of the President, and he should be sending his indignation to: comments@whitehouse.gov
"Defense Department officials have laid off most of their case workers who help severely injured service members, sources said.
The case workers for the Military Severely Injured Center serve as advocates for wounded service members who have questions or issues related to benefits, financial resources and their successful return to duty or reintegration into civilian life — all forms of support other than medical care.
The center officially opened in February 2005, with its primary offices in Arlington, Va., but also hired advocates at hospitals around the country.
Four sources said the decision was made to cut back the personnel because officials with the Army’s Wounded Warrior program felt the Defense Department program was a duplication of efforts.
Defense officials did not comment on the actions as of Jan. 19. Wounded Warrior officials also could not be reached.
When he said, "The winds of change brought me here." I was shaking. I wonder where he heard that line from before? ;)
Essie,
You are the change. I'm so pumped that ordinary (well, you are a little more than ordinary) people can still make such a diffence in the scheme of things in this country.
Hey, Christy. The Bears are still in the Superbowl and it's Tuesday morning. Can we please have a new open thread? Your efforts and football team are much appreciated.
It is much more likely that the first black President will be a Republican than a Democrat... Plus the Republicans have a better pool of more qualified black candidates i.e. Condi Rice, Colin Powell and Keenan (from Keenan and Kel)
Posted by HisHonor*Frosty* on January 23, 2007 at 04:31 AM
You don't even respect your own black party members. Can't you let the racist crap rest?
And where do you get the idea that all comedians are Republicans....though I must concur that there does seem to be more idiots running the roost over there in GOP country.
I get the feeling that race won't place as big a negative as it has in the past. The situation is so dire in so many ways in this country that voters are going to be forced to look beyond the facade for those who can solve problems.
If Powell ran, he might be a formitable candidate. But then he's no longer a member of the Bush crime family, so he doesn't have a chance in hell.
Mark my words. Jeb is The Man in 2000. They will draft him. The rest of the Republican pack carry too much baggage or are just plain repulsive or even worse boring. They need star power, but Arnold can't run.
Posted by DR_PETER_KERSTEN on January 23, 2007 at 07:49 AM
Boy, the quality of trolls has really hit rock bottom as of late.
Peter Kersten A kids show magician who sells charms and amulets. (rough translation via Google)
The Magic Doctor
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