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Good morning, all.
Support the anit-occupation demonstrations this weekend.
Hi Salute...just us "crackers" hanging around....I'm fixin' to be gonzo in a few...how you doin'?....John Boy
Iraq Reality Check - video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQuKDMZdvMo
How any American, including Congressmen and women, can watch this CNN video of CNN's Baghdad correspondent Michael Ware explaining the reality of the Iraqi government and the war, yet still vote to send U.S. tax dollars and American soldiers to Baghdad is beyond comprehension.
CNN's Baghdad correspondent Michael Ware was in Baghdad the day "Shock & Awe" was executed, and remained there in Iraq reporting on the ground from Baghdad every day FOR YEARS!!!
Ware recounts past Bush "troops surges" and discusses how American tax dollars and weapons we give to the Iraqi government will eventually be used against American soldiers, and how the latest Bush-McCain "troop surge" will definitely fail. Ware describes the Iraqi government as a "collection of militias."
Ware also recognized the need for some kind of force to replace the U.S. military, in order for U.S. withdrawal.
Such a recommendation squares with Cong. Kucinich's plan to replace U.S. troops with a U.N. peacekeeping force.
The Democratic and Republican effective alternative is to leave the troops in Iraq.
Michael Ware
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQuKDMZdvMo
The Kucinich Plan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS6JyiAt0xg
Good morning.
So you want to confront Bush over the Iraq occupation as the blog says. Here's how:
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The National Weather Service is predicting fifty degrees and sunny this Saturday, January 27, in Washington, DC. With no expected chance of precipitation, it'll be a beautiful day to come out for what is expected to be one of the largest mobilizations against the Iraq war since the US invasion in 2003.
The idea is to show Congress that America wants a peace surge, not a troop surge, and to push legislators to listen to the voters, not President Bush, and bring the war to a close.
There's a rally starting at 11:00 on the Mall featuring remarks from a host of speakers including Reps. Dennis Kucinich, Lynn Woolsey and Maxine Waters, the Rev. Jesse Jackson, Leslie Cagan and many others. At 1:00 the march will kick off from the Mall. There's still time to get on a bus. Click here for info on transportation and here if you need a place to stay.
The weekend's activities will include an interfaith peace service and a Congressional Education Day on Monday, January 29th. Whether you can be in DC or not, you can help make the actions a success by making a donation to UFPJ, by helping spread the word about the planned actions and by asking your elected reps to support Senator Edward Kennedy's bill against funding a troop surge.
See the UFPJ site for more info on this weekend. And if you're a student organizer (or the parent or friend of one) you should know that our friends and partners at Campus Progress are offering travel grants of up to $300 for students organizing carpool or van trips to the capital. Click here for info on how to apply.
Check out our new progressive events calendar for other antiwar events nationwide.
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The Nation
Support the anit-occupation demonstrations this weekend.
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I'll be there. Looks like we are getting a break with the weather.
Bush-McCain "troop surge"
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Bush-McCain-Lieberman
The two main enablers for Bush are McCain and Lieberman.
morning all,
{{fade}}, I, too, get such a kick out of the trolls all using military sounding names, like that gives them some kind of credibility or something.
I for one, remember ONLY TOO WELL, how those in the military, both guards, and active troops were APPALLED when Bush called them all into duty to go to Iraq! These original guys had joined in peace time, to learn a trade, not to go to foreign soil, based on a lie, and told they would be somehow defending america, against NO TERRORISTS There! There wasn't one of them that wasn't out there bitching his head off. (and their Parents, too)
So someguy who sat in a cushy job, stationed in Germany professes to tell us what War is about!
Why isn't this creep on a plane over to Iraq right now, so my nephew can get out of this next escalation of guys getting sent back a 3rd time?
rj....did you see the video from last nite...the Iraqi toops beating a Sunni and there were some reports that they castrated him....while American troops watched?.....John Boy....
For those in the Green Party that visit this blog. Democratic grassroots do NOT, repeat NOT support this war/occupation. Many Democrats in fact voted from the start against the war - Feingold for instance. More than 60% of the Democratic House members voted against the war. Then we have the Democratic Progressive Out of Iraq caucus.
To my friends in the Greens, let's not bicker with each other over Iraq or torture. The progressives in the Democratic party are against both. We simply choose to operate within one of the major US parties. No offense to Greens but they aren't large enough to effect change.
You have got to read/watch this one, of Ted Kennedy on the floor, asking Republicans "What is it about Working men and women you find so offensive?"
"What is the price, we ask the other side? What is the price that you want from these working men and women? What cost? How much more do we have to give to the private sector and to business? How many billion dollars more, are you asking, are you requiring?
"When does the greed stop, we ask the other side? That's the question and that's the issue."
http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2007/01/kennedy-to-republicans-what-is-it-about.html
this story is worth a Letter to Editor today, plus send it to a few TV reporters like Olbermann, Matthews, Dobbs, Blitzer that they should be showing this over and over.
Bush Forms North American Union with Mexico and Canada without Congressional approval or authorization.
Good Morning everyone, I'll try to be nice today, but I still won't follow the pack, remember we all have our own minds.
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iraqveteran,
I understand! I am pretty far to the left as well. The person in politics I admire the most is not a Democrat - namely, Bernie Sanders.
I am just trying to work with everyone to achieve some goals that we all share:
1. Ending this immoral occupation.
2. Stop torture and restore the rule of law - Habeaus Corpus, Geneva Conventions, etc...
3. Universal Health care.
Please note that Conyers reintroduced HR 676 - Single Payer Universal Health Care.
$500 Million Iraq Ripoff
President Bush's Ambassador to Iraq, Israeli neocon Paul Bremer, put an Iraqi used car salesman on his staff and gave him $500 million dollars for Iraqi weapons procurement. The used car salesman had no experience in arms procurement and has summarily disappeared with all the cash. CBS tried to get the U.S. government and the Pentagon to respond, but no one would talk to CBS. They did issue a statement which said it was an Iraqi internal affair and there would be no U.S. investigation of the missing half billion dollars - $500 million U.S. tax dollars - GONE!
Olbermann Interviews Russ Feingold
THE CORPORATE MEDIA IS CONTROLLING THE NOMINATION.
In recect polls, MSM is showing Clinton, Obama, and Edwards. Why not ALL the ANNOUNCED candidates, rather than someone who hasn't announced?
This is premeditated manipulation.
And who in the world would vote for Obama (21%) over Edwards (11%), as MSNBC claims? Half the people for Clinton?
What about Richardson? What about Vilsack? Kucinich?
The Media knows it's ALL NAME RECOGITION now, and they are intentionally not recognizing the REAL LEADERS with EXPERIENCE. This is a media hack job.
Democrats should SUE in a class action for truth and fairness.
WAKE UP! We must demand FAIRNESS NOW. If we don't get fairness now, the next thing you know our nominee will have some bogus story by partisans run across the county as prime time news, like the Swiftboaters.
I don't know 1 (ONE), NOT ONE Democrat who thinks Obama has a chance at being elected President, or has a chance against all the EXPERIENCED Democrats. He hasn't even ANNOUNCED.
Sure MSM, the Democrats are sooo desperate as to want a SENATOR with 2 years Senate experience, just out of the State Senate, NO LEADERSHIP experience, NO Business world experience, A LAWYER, A HUSSAIN, did coke, never won a real race... PLEASE! Democrats have many candidates much more experienced who have ANNOUNCED a bid.
All this poll stuff is smoke and mirrors. It's smoke to cloud the picture of experienced and proven leaders, and mirrors to focus attention on candidates who will NOT take to so-called middle America. This manipulation helps Republicans.
I'M MAD AS HELL... AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT!
DEMAND PUBLIC FINANCED CAMPAIGNS NOW!
"What is the price, we ask the other side? What is the price that you want from these working men and women? What cost? How much more do we have to give to the private sector and to business? How many billion dollars more, are you asking, are you requiring?
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hi pam, what a disgrace that we couldn't get more than a handful of Republicans to vote for raising the minimum wage. Clearly, the Republicans have chosen to cast their fate with Bush. I say fine ... they want to be obstructionists and follow the obstructionist Prez then they will lose in 2008.
Did you see the story about the retard Wayne Allard that wanted to allow states to revoke the minimum wage? Simply disgusting. But that's what Puggies specialize in - being right wing ideological extremists.
THANK YOU SENATOR DURBIN FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH.
Traitor Lieberman Supports Bush's Surge
Joe "The Traitor" Lieberman supports Bush's troop surge. Arianna Huffington explains the odd relationship.
OHIO Election staff convicted in recount rig
1/24/2007, 6:09 p.m. ET
By M.R. KROPKO The Associated Press
CLEVELAND (AP) — Two election workers were convicted Wednesday of rigging a recount of the 2004 presidential election to avoid a more thorough review in Ohio's most populous county.
Jacqueline Maiden, elections coordinator of the Cuyahoga County Elections Board, and ballot manager Kathleen Dreamer each were convicted of a felony count of negligent misconduct of an elections employee. They also were convicted of one misdemeanor count each of failure of elections employees to perform their duty.
Prosecutors accused Maiden and Dreamer of secretly reviewing preselected ballots before a public recount on Dec. 16, 2004. They worked behind closed doors for three days to pick ballots they knew would not cause discrepancies when checked by hand, prosecutors said.
Defense attorney Roger Synenberg has said the workers were following procedures as they understood them.
Ohio gave President Bush the electoral votes he needed to defeat Democratic Sen. John Kerry in the close election and hold on to the White House in 2004.
Special prosecutor Kevin Baxter did not claim the workers' actions affected the outcome of the election — Kerry gained 17 votes and Bush lost six in the county's recount.
Maiden and Dreamer, who still work for the elections board, face a possible sentence of six to 18 months for the felony conviction. Sentencing is on Feb. 26.
A message left for Elections Board Director Michael Vu was not immediately returned Wednesday. The board released a statement that said its goal is to restore confidence in the county's election progress and pursue reforms in addition to those made since 2004.
U.S. troops allowed to kill Iranians plotting attacks in Iraq
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Bush administration has authorized the U.S. military to capture or kill Iranian agents in Iraq who are plotting attacks against U.S. and coalition forces, a U.S. national security official said Friday.
(...)
Bush and his advisers had discussed the policy since last fall. The president decided to authorize it when the situation in Iraq continued to deteriorate and because the United States is looking to get tougher with Iran, the official said.
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Lovely.
I'm not far to the left, I'm just a Kennedy-Feingold "Democrat" where the rest of the party has moved so far to the right.
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iraqvet,
There's a struggle within the Democratic party to make it more progressive. I believe we are winning. It started with getting Howard Dean in as head of the DNC. The progressive House caucus founded by Bernie Sanders and Dennis Kucinich is growing. Stick it out! Speak your mind. You'll find many of us are frustrated with some of the Dems who are more to the right. That's why some of us worked to oust Joe Lieberman and elect Ned Lamont.
morning to you, John Boy.
heading out for some furniture shopping again,
bbl to blog ya.
Stop This War Now!
There's only two real reasons why Democrats are refusing to cut off funding to this war:
(1) They're worried about being not being re-elected; they're afraid their next opponent will accuse them of being "weak on terror."
(2) They know if they veto Bush's upcoming war bill, Bush will veto each and every Democratic earmark crossing his desk. I smell a quid pro quo, and it's between Bush and the seasoned Democrats.
All this bull about "harming the troops" as an excuse for not cutting off funds to Bush's war is nonsense. As Congressman Kucinich said, there's already $70 billion in the pipeline to bring the troops home now! - there is no need for further funding other than to keep the troops in Iraq.
Sickofitall.
Watch this video I made:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9TYvv1uoDQ
No trial? Aren't the IRAQIS supposed to be in charge? Perhaps you missed the line that the Chimp decided to start doing this AFTER HE FINALLY REALIZED THAT THE SITUATION HAS DETERIORATED! (because HE let it).
You certainly have a knack for selective reading. Is that what you learned waiting tables at a bierstube?
Damn these Republicans. They want a fight over the minimum wage. Let's have town halls across the whole country an dhold these POS's accountable. It's clear to me that they have chosen to load the Senate bill with so many poison pills that it won't pass or will be rejected by the House. This is micky mouse political obstructionism by the Republican party - orchestrated by Karl Rove. They want a fight- fine. They will lose way more seats in 2008, 2010 and beyond. They will become a permanent minority. The hell with this bipartisian crap. If they were bipartisian they would have agreed that this is a minor increase in the scheme of things and went along on the bill.
It's also clear to me that we should move quickly on defunding the Iraq occupation. Bush is ignoring everyone, rubbing our faces in the dirt. The hell with this POS. Defund the occupation, bring troops home and impeach the chimp POS.
. But shouldn't real "lefty" dems be doing the same to people who have the same voting record as Joe, instead of supporting these people for President of the United States?
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Iraqvet, their day will come! Dems should be very afraid of what happened to Weaselman. If it weren't for Wealselman's talent at lying, he would have lost to Ned.
I'm back from H&R Block
IT'S OFFICIAL!
The Bush Tax Cuts do NOT. I repeat. Do NOT benefit those of us in the Working Class who are Single with NO little kids.
My Co-Worker who has kids got 10 TIMES MORE than I got.
That's not fair dude.
SINGLE PEOPLE UNITE AGAINST TAXES!
;p
Or, we should be able to claim our dog or cat as a dependent.
;p
Sparked by today's Washington Post story that suggests Vice President Cheney's office is involved in the Plame-CIA spy link investigation, government officials and advisers passed around rumors that the vice president might step aside and that President Bush would elevate Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.
Just as I predicted. Darth Cheney will fake a heart condition so he won't have to testify, and then the Chimp can put Condi in place to mess with the woman and minority opposition candidates whomever they may be.
White House Watch: Cheney resignation rumors fly
(Good thing this appointment will have to go through the Senate).
((((BEEP BEEP BEEP WARNING!))))
rjsnj
YOU HAVE BEEN TARGETED BY A STEATH TROLL. DO NOT FALL FOR IT. DO NOT FALL FOR IT!
ABORT CONVERSATION IMMEDIATELY!
YOU HAVE BEEN TARGETED BY A STEALTH TROLL.
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YOU HAVE BEEN TARGETED BY A STEATH TROLL. DO NOT FALL FOR IT. DO NOT FALL FOR IT!
ABORT CONVERSATION IMMEDIATELY!
YOU HAVE BEEN TARGETED BY A STEALTH TROLL.
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Yeah maybe. I'll give anyone a chance until they prove that they are just here to argue for arguing sake. Also, you got to look at the tone of their remarks ...
From Ted Kennedy (for some reason the youtube video won't start???):
"240 billion dollars in tax breaks for corporations. 36 billion dollars in tax breaks for small businesses. Increase in productivity -- 42 percent over the last 10 years," yelled Kennedy emotionally. "But do you think there's any increase in the minimum wage? No. At 12 after five today, on Thursday, I speak for all of our Democrats and say we're prepared to vote now. Now!"
"Do you have such disdain for hard-working Americans that you want to pile all your amendments on this? Why don’t you just hold your amendments until other pieces of legislation? Why this volume of amendments on just the issue to try and raise the minimum wage? What is it about it that drives you Republicans crazy? What is it? Something. Something! What is the price that the workers have to pay to get an increase? What is it about working men and women that you find so offensive?"
Yeah maybe. I'll give anyone a chance until they prove that they are just here to argue for arguing sake. Also, you got to look at the tone of their remarks ...Posted by rjsnj on January 26, 2007 at 10:56 AM
I'm just looking out for you friend. Say, It's pretty slow this morning yeah? I've been at H&R Block all this time. Anything "Breaking News" I should be caught up on?
More from Kennedy:
"We have now had amendments that have been worth over 200 billion dollars… Amendments that have been offered. We've had amendments on education of 35 billion dollars. We've had health-savings amendments that will benefit people with average incomes of $112,000… We've had those kinds of amendments and we're looking at the Kyl amendment at 3 billion dollars. But we still cannot get two dollars and fifteen cents -- over two years. Over two years!
"What is the price, we ask the other side? What is the price that you want from these working men and women? What cost? How much more do we have to give to the private sector and to business? How many billion dollars more, are you asking, are you requiring?
"When does the greed stop, we ask the other side? That's the question and that's the issue."
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Answer: The greed never stops from the GOOPERS. They are merely agents of the corporations.
I'm just looking out for you friend.
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Thx FOS. When soeone gets too trolly (mainly too annoying) like frosty, I am pretty good at ignoring them. Of course, frosty is sneaky ... he/she assumes different personas but the objective is always the same - to argue for the sake of arguing and if at all possible get the bloggers to fight each other. Whether trolls do that for fun or are paid to do so, I don't know. But I know it when I see it.
Answer: The greed never stops from the GOOPERS. They are merely agents of the corporations.Posted by rjsnj on January 26, 2007 at 10:59 AM
I want the Minimum Wage increased, but I want those of us who make more than that , but less than Middle Class to get some kind of break. It's not cool. It's wrong for us to be punished for being single with no children living all by ourselves.
We have to pay for all of own own stuff.
Posted by rjsnj on January 26, 2007 at 11:03 AM
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Exactly.
;p
FOS here's some news for you:
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/17742
Congress Announces First Investigation into Bush's Crimes
HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE Oversight Hearing on: "Presidential Signing Statements under the Bush Administration: A Threat to Checks and Balances and the Rule of Law?"
10:15 a.m., Wednesday, January 31, 2007, Room 2141 Rayburn House Office Building
Confirmed Witnesses:
Karen Mathis, ABA President
Mickey Edwards, Former Republican Congressman
Professor Charles Ogletree, Harvard Law School
John Elwood, Deputy Assistant Attorney General in the Office of Legal Counsel of DOJ
Nicholas Rozenkranz, Georgetown University
THANK Congressman John Conyers: (202) 225-5126, John.Conyers@mail.house.gov
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Let the subpoeana fly. I hope this leads to impeaching Chimp and Darth Cheney.
I want the Minimum Wage increased, but I want those of us who make more than that , but less than Middle Class to get some kind of break.
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Right. It's extemely minor first step. We really need a Living Wage law so that salaries keep up with cost of living. But, we can't even get this minor bandaid in place with these obnoxious Republicans in the way.
The WaPo has a story about that paragon of honesty Bernie Kerik being hired to oversee their corrupt police force. (It's a registration required site, so I'll link to a CBS item from last week. Although this was being denied just a few days ago, the WaPo says it's a done deal).
(AP) Guyana's president says former New York City police commissioner Bernard Kerik, who U.S. authorities are reportedly investigating for possible financial improprieties, will oversee reforms to the violence-wracked country's police force.
President Bharrat Jagdeo told reporters late Tuesday that Kerik will "definitely" lead an overhaul of the South American country's police department despite recent criticism over the move.
Ex-NYC Top Cop To Head Guyana Reforms
Gee, and they're going to allow casino gambling soon, too. After all, he did such a bang up job overseeing the training of the Iraqis for the CPA.
Great, we get Kerik in Central America, and Negroponte possibly becoming Sec of State, and the Bush Crime Family in kahoots with Moon in Paraguay.....
Who says Bush doesn't move fast?
Right. It's extemely minor first step. We really need a Living Wage law so that salaries keep up with cost of living. But, we can't even get this minor bandaid in place with these obnoxious Republicans in the way.Posted by rjsnj on January 26, 2007 at 11:10 AM
Totally. Congress should just abandone the Republican side because they are not cooperating with us.
Hi DPD!
:)
Does he know his aunt is a communist?
Posted by Served_in_Germany on January 26, 2007 at 10:25 AM
no, actually he has been brainwashed, and thinks he is fighting for some noble cause and making us safe over here. I do not blame him. I do not argue with him. First he was lied to by the recruiter in his High School, in his Senior year, 3 years ago, when the recruiter told him "of course you don;t have to go to Iraq. We send our soldiers all over the world. 3 months later, he was on a plane to Iraq". During the Kerry/Bush election, he had a senior officer tell them all to vote for Bush, because Kerry planned on cutting Vet benefits as soon as he got in.
One thing my nephew knows, is that I fight to get him home because I have paid very very close attention to the Goals of PNAC, Colin Powell sitting in front of the UN holding up little bottles of white powder, maps, recorders, and scaring the American people into thinking Iraq was dangerous. I paid attention as I watched first one lie, then the next get dismissed. I watched the media, afraid of being called unpatriotic or anti American back off and not hold them accountable for their lies. I watched Democrats line up to vote for this illegal invasion, as they were fed those lies as well as one I wish I had kept the link to, that Iraq had the capability already of firing nukes into mainland USA.
ps, I also had a brother who served in Germany for 4 years. He was a driver for officers. He was killed on Christmas night, when he was home on leave in between re-enlistment, where he was then headed to be a driver at the Pentagon. Believe me, they investigated our family very closely before giving him this position. They did not think I was a communist !
I need to take a nap.
I'll be back later.
')
Hi, FOS. Get some sleep. Trollie was talking to himself all night.
Oh yes, the old "we're fighting over there to protect our Freedom over here" line of crapola from these Junior Nazis in the White House.
A Defense Department database devoted to gathering information on potential threats to military facilities and personnel, known as Talon, had 13,000 entries as of a year ago -- including 2,821 reports involving American citizens, according to an internal Pentagon memo to be released today by the American Civil Liberties Union.
The Pentagon memo says an examination of the system led to the deletion of 1,131 reports involving Americans, 186 of which dealt with "anti-military protests or demonstrations in the U.S."
Protesters Found in Database
ACLU Is Questioning Entries in Defense Dept. System
rjsnj on January 26, 2007 at 10:59 AM,
For what it's worth, (I know Ted Kennedy is not my Senator as I live in NY), :( I just sent Senator Kennedy a thank email for standing up for working people. I guess the other democratic Senators feel safe because they can blame it all on Lieberman. Well I say they all need to be kicking up their feet and screaming of this legislative rape at the hands of the Republicans.
Hope this isn't a question already asked and obviously answered but where can I get info on the schedule for the meetings next week? Thanks.
Oh yes, the old "we're fighting over there to protect our Freedom over here" line of crapola from these Junior Nazis in the White House.
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dpd, we must destroy this meme. Bush even used it in the SOTU address. This myth of Islamo-Fascism must be totally discredited as nonsense. Even if there are a few extremists who believe in something like a "Caliphate" are we truly afraid that they will succeed? There is no support for that concept in the Arab world. Let's stop inventing bogey men just to substain an illegal and immoral occupation whoose main objective is control of oil.
But then again the republicans do it every time! I have visions of 1994 andfilibuster Bob tieing up the Senate over every bill that the republicans did not like, as he was vying for that long sought after presidents job. Just knowing that the Republicans would win back the White House in 1996 (hopefully him), and then they could get the legislation they all wanted.
They had the media focused on other bogus issues to distract the general population from the evil plot. I guess like the energizer bunny it's still going...
Posted by edgery on January 26, 2007 at 12:01 PM
Howdy. Here's a list. Just pick your nearest city.
Use the "Search for Events in Your Area" link on the left side.
But then again the republicans do it every time!
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Republicans remain as disgusting as ever - actually even more disgusting since the neocons came to power.
I can deal with this manifestation of Republicanism. We will beat them bad if they make it all about kitchen table issues in the years ahead.
Time for a POLL
By Ladydawn - Jan 26th, 2007 at 12:20 pm EST
Also listed in: DNC Internet
It's currently running at CCN and KOS so I've decided to add it here as well.
Who would you like to see as President in 08
I only put it back up today so the numbers are new.
MSNBC Report on Cheney's Orchestration of Joe Wilson Retribution
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/17765
Impeach Darth Cheney and Da Chimp.
{{{DPD}}} Hey sweetie! I'm just breezing through!
I hope you are well!
Peace/Hugs
Dawnie, I was just wondering this morning what happened to you. Hope all is well up there in the hills of NC.
Larry
Can a new U.S. commander make a difference in Iraq?Yes 29% 1450 votes
No 71% 3584 votes
Total: 5034 votes
Looks like a mirror image of Mr. Bush's approval rating poll!!
Memo to Tim Russert: Dick Cheney thinks he controls you.
This delicious morsel about the "Meet the Press" host and the vice president was part of the extensive dish Cathie Martin served up yesterday when the former Cheney communications director took the stand in the perjury trial of former Cheney chief of staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby.
Flashed on the courtroom computer screens were her notes from 2004 about how Cheney could respond to allegations that the Bush administration had played fast and loose with evidence of Iraq's nuclear ambitions. Option 1: "MTP-VP," she wrote, then listed the pros and cons of a vice presidential appearance on the Sunday show. Under "pro," she wrote: "control message."
"I suggested we put the vice president on 'Meet the Press,' which was a tactic we often used," Martin testified. "It's our best format."
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Hey Timmy you wimp, Darth Cheney thinks he owns you!
'afternoon people,
couple of short takes here...it appears to me the republicon kneejerks are playing the 'good cop, bad cop' game. congressional rethugs are playing up their support for bread and butter national issues while knowing full well that their 'idiot-in-chief' will veto any and all bills meant to better the welfare of everyday americans. but it's ok though, because to counter this we only have to present bills that are even more helpful to working americans.
on another note, i can't make it to the washington demonstration tomorrow and certainly would if i could, but if any of you are planning on showing up, please, someone, take along a giant 'finger' with the words 'PRIVATISE THIS!' printed in large letters. it seems that to these repofascists anything public must be exterminated.
peace
BoilerMan
Hey Larry,
Thanks for asking. I'm fine. It's ccccold today in the Mountains but still beautiful! I've been hangin out with the CCN crew trying to work it for Clark.
You know how it is. hehe!
Ya'll take care now and drop by CCN and give me a hollar any time!
Peace/Hugs OUT!
You know what If Ms clinton is the one behind that foul attack on Obama she deserves to loose the election in 08. I love President Clinton but I am not sure of Hillary, She is the one responsible for all of his troubles, anyway this is the kind of things that makes her a hard candidate to vote for. I hope her camp is not responsible for this attack, it is not good for us but it a big plus for the republicans this is just what they are looking for.
ED SHULTZ will be playing 4 sound clips (of course, they wouldn't be video clips, DUH) of Kennedy on the Senate floor talking about Minimum Wage, (and basically taking the Pugs to the woodshed and daring them to show their faces in public back home) in 3 minutes.
I hope her camp is not responsible for this attack, it is not good for us but it a big plus for the republicans this is just what they are looking for.
Posted by IJP on January 26, 2007 at 12:44 PM
I'll say it once nicely: Hillery was NOT responsible for any attack on Obama. It came from the Washington Times; a Rev Moon, Bush controlled rag. Get the facts and don't come in here sounding like a troll if you're not.
Posted by IJP on January 26, 2007 at 12:44 PM
CNN debunks false report about Obama
Obama Goes On Campaign to Debunk Madrassa Education Allegation
Obama Smeared As Former ‘Madrassa’ Student, Possible Covert Muslim Extremist
ETC. ETC. ETC....
They have ALL debunked that "story", including the Clinton part. Only FOX Noise and the Moonies are still pushing it.
the libby trial is turning out to be alot of fun. first i am delighted that it's coverage helps undercut what little credibility cheney or bush have as honest people. second it is dredging up all kinds of questions that the right thought had gone away such as "was the country lied to in order to get it to support the iraq invasion" and "what did ari know and when did he know it" and "was cheney manipulating intel to hide the fact that he manipulated intel" and on and on...even when fitzmas comes late the presents are still fun to open.
good news on senator johnson:
Thursday, January 25, 2007
Johnson making 'encouraging and steady' progress in recovery
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Tim Johnson of South Dakota is making "encouraging and steady progress" as he recovers from a brain hemorrhage and subsequent surgery last month, his office said Thursday.
"Senator Johnson is showing evidence of more functional, spontaneous speech and is indicating preferences," said Philip Marion, medical director for the Department of Rehabilitative Medicine at George Washington University Hospital, in a written statement. "He is answering questions and following commands appropriately."
Johnson remains in the hospital's in-patient rehabilitation unit. He was transferred out of the intensive care unit earlier this month.
While discussing the names of family members with a speech therapist, Johnson offered the name of his youngest grandson, Cooper, when the therapist could not recall it, the statement said.
"He is watching movies with his family and requested to have his television set to CNN during the day. Johnson is also following the Colts' progress in the NFL playoffs and rooting for South Dakota native Adam Vinatieri," it said.
hey gregg,
from one old man to another, its good to hear your good news. keep it commin'.
I'll say it once nicely: Hillery was NOT responsible for any attack on Obama. It came from the Washington Times; a Rev Moon, Bush controlled rag. Get the facts and don't come in here sounding like a troll if you're not.
Posted by salutetheDems on January 26, 2007 at 12:52 PM
DO NOT and I repeat DO NOT fall into the trap of thinking that the Hillary camp would not do such a thing.
They will, period. You have to know the mindthink from which they are operating and they know that the rightwing rags will be blamed for this. Collectively she and Bill are some of the top knotch political strategists.
The Hillary camp is about eliminating Obama before he gets some steam to going. They have aready corralled all of the fundraising and big donors. Without the big bucks, one's campaign isn't going anywhere.
15 Days! Countdown To Obama 2008! ( A Friendly Reminder )
It's absolutly HILLARIOUS!
In the wake of the Media and her supporters trying so hard to fool everyone into thinking that Hillary Rodham Clinton has got a hold of the NETROOTS support, I decided to take a moment to dedicate todays Obama Countdown with a friendly little reminder;
This is OBAMA/EDWARDS Country!
SNIP!
2008: January straw poll results
by kos
Wed Jan 17, 2007 at 09:38:47 AM PST
A record number of respondents participated this month, with over 22,000 votes cast in the straw poll. And, in the true spirit of the MoE, the numbers changed little after the first few thousand votes were cast. At 6K votes, it was Edwards 37, Obama 27. and Clark at 14. The final results are, respectively, 35, 28 and 17.
I know it hurts to read and some may want to deny reality so, I'm posting the link for PROOF!
Courteousy of Daily Kos!
Posted by J on January 26, 2007 at 01:13 PM
J, i don't mean to be impertinant or disrespectful, but are you personnaly privy to some inside information from the hillary camp that other people aren't?
Congresswoman Kirsten Gillibrand is "pudgy"
Yes, that is the "intellectual" discussion that is going on at the Albany (NY) Times Union's Capitol Confidential blog.
This was all triggered off by a "joke" in GQ calling her a "MILF".
Please weigh in (no pun intended) at:
http://blogs.timesunion.com/capitol/?p=3452#comments
this story from yesterday's ny times paints an interesting and frightening picture of cheney and bush's iraqi adventure:
BAGHDAD, Jan. 24 — In the battle for Baghdad, Haifa Street has changed hands so often that it has taken on the feel of a no man’s land, the deadly space between opposing trenches. On Wednesday, as American and Iraqi troops poured in, the street showed why it is such a sensitive gauge of an urban conflict marked by front lines that melt into confusion, enemies with no clear identity and allies who disappear or do not show up at all.
In a miniature version of the troop increase that the United States hopes will secure the city, American soldiers and armored vehicles raced onto Haifa Street before dawn to dislodge Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias who have been battling for a stretch of ragged slums and mostly abandoned high rises. But as the sun rose, many of the Iraqi Army units who were supposed to do the actual searches of the buildings did not arrive on time, forcing the Americans to start the job on their own.
When the Iraqi units finally did show up, it was with the air of a class outing, cheering and laughing as the Americans blew locks off doors with shotguns. As the morning wore on and the troops came under fire from all directions, another apparent flaw in this strategy became clear as empty apartments became lairs for gunmen who flitted from window to window and killed at least one American soldier, with a shot to the head.
Whether the gunfire was coming from Sunni or Shiite insurgents or militia fighters or some of the Iraqi soldiers who had disappeared into the Gotham-like cityscape, no one could say.
I posted the original article from this rightwing mag a few days ago stating all of Obama's supposedly Muslim heritage. Here is the followup.
I'm not stating that I support what they say, but it doesn't necessarily go without saying that the Hillary camp wouldn't do this and sit back and watch the sparks fly.
http://www.insightmag.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=5D3B38F8A2584DB5A77BA05660C6045C&nm=Free+Access&type=Publishing&mod=Publications%3A%3AArticle&mid=8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791&tier=4&id=1E5D1BDD15754861AAECE0B1163DD85A
Posted by J on January 26, 2007 at 01:13 PM
Sup!
Did you get my e-mail?
J, i don't mean to be impertinant or disrespectful, but are you personnaly privy to some inside information from the hillary camp that other people aren't?
Posted by BoilerMan on January 26, 2007 at 01:17 PM
No I am not, BUT I if you have no clue as to how Hillary's political strategy along with her skills/abilities work then you are sadly underestimating her.
The Clintons play hardball. It's naive to think otherwise. Hillary is beng forced down our throats like Kerry was in 2004.
FOS
Gotta check in there and see what's goin' on. Taking a long needed break.
Just explaining to the nice folks here not to put it past the Hillary camp to have been the originators of the Obama/Muslim heritage hoopla via CNN. The Hillary camp is not a collection of professional women/men aiming for the top. They are ruthless political strategists that are cloaked in decorum.
The Clintons play hardball. It's naive to think otherwise. Hillary is beng forced down our throats like Kerry was in 2004.
Posted by Susan_ClevelandOH on January 26, 2007 at 01:26 PM
Enough said!!
j, if you start hanging out with those hoodlums from "insight" you will be wearing a leather jacket and smoking hand rolled cigarettes in no time...and stealing cars to play chicken with james dean :)
Posted by J on January 26, 2007 at 01:27 PM
I heard that. Thank you. Folks act like we got us a little angle up in here.
;p
Those who never served cannot comprehend what those who have had to sacrifice for their country, be it in peace time or in war.Posted by Served_in_Germany on January 26, 2007 at 10:41 AM
Please send this comment to the current occupier of the White House, his VP, Secretary of State, and all the Right wing pundits and politicians who have shirked their own responsibility in previous times of war.
boilerman, yup us old dogs need to lay in the sun on such a cold day here in ny. if you want to blow your mind read the times piece i posted at 1;18pm.
J, it seems that Moon's plan is still working. Get the Dems to argue with each other about other Dems so the MSM can harp about a Party in disarray, and their work is done. BTW, NOBODY has officially declared (not even Clinton) because they CAN'T until 2-10-07. This internal Dem sniping at anyone who has a different opinion of who is or isn't isn't "the" one is ridiculous.
Why do the trolls remark with wonderment that there are liberals (gasp) on the Democratic National Comittee's blog? My goodness gracious, what a suprise.
and yes Hillary is being forced down our throats in a way because everything I come across now states how she has a war chest the size of some Third World GNP and that all the major donors are committed to her campaign.
Even read last night where Elizabeth Taylor has donated $100K to Hillary.
The objective of all this is to sell folks on the idea that there is no one else to chose from but Hillary and to also make the other runners fall by the wayside.
THE LIES AGAINST OBAMA (WHOEVER THE SOURCE) ARE AS OLD AS YESTERDAY
Obama debunks claim about Islamic school
Calls the reports 'scurrilous'; Jakarta school open to all faiths.
Snip:
'We will not be swift-boated'
surfaced on the Web site of the conservative Insight magazine the day after Obama announced he was jumping into the 2008 presidential race. Conservative Internet blogs and the Fox News Channel picked up the story and spread the charges just as his candidacy was getting off the ground.
Obama on Wednesday called the reports "scurrilous," and his communications director e-mailed reporters a lengthy memo attempting to set the record straight.
"I think they recognize that the notion that me going to school in Indonesia for two years at a public school there at the age of 7 and 8 is probably not going to be endangering in some way the people of America," Obama said on NBC's "Today" show.
The push-back was a signal Obama would fight to protect his reputation in the presidential campaign.
Many Democrats argued that Kerry's failure to challenge aggressively his critics in the 2004 presidential race cost him in his effort to unseat President Bush. A group with conservative ties, the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, charged that Kerry did not deserve the medals he won in the Vietnam War - despite his combat record of bravery and valor. Kerry announced Wednesday that he will not run again in 2008.
"We will not be swift-boated," said Obama communications director Robert Gibbs. "And we won't take allegations that are patently untrue lying down."
Well, it's official, U.N. climate panel: Global warming to raise Earth's seas for 1,000 years
So it's just the Chimp and Barney and a few "end timers" now.
Ed Shultz said they may have fixed the problems with the Kennedy tapes, so they may be coming up. NOW!!!
Posted by DPD on January 26, 2007 at 01:30 PM
Folks aren't quippling about candidates and the party isn't going to fall apart because there is healthy discussion about whose running, but it's better to be well informed than to be taken in with the tide of a candidate that is not going to serve the party well.
gregg, not taing to heart the words of Insight, BUT using it as an example of what I am saying.
Posted by J on January 26, 2007 at 01:33 PM
If the amount of money one has in their "war chest" is a sign of who would be elected as the Democratic Candidate, then 2004 would have been Dean v Bush.
Get a clue, those who nominate the party candidate are not entirely swayed by the dollar factor. They certainly were not in 2004.
To make this perfectly clear what I am saying is this:
DO NOT dismiss the fact that is wasn't/couldn't have been the Hillary camp that orignated the Obama/Muslim heritage hoopla. The Clintons are brillant political strategists not angels.
No one evidently has heard of the kid that threw the rock and hid his hand behind his back?
Big deal, Liz Taylor can do with her money as she chooses, just like Stephen Spielberg, David Geffen, Jeffrey Katzenberg and...
Stars already lining up for Mr Obama are led by George Clooney, who says that the Senator’s presidential run promises to be the “most electrifying thing to happen to the Democratic Party since Kennedy”. Others include Matt Damon, Oliver Stone, Will Smith and Oprah Winfrey....
are free to donate to Obama.
Clinton loses her star billing as the big names of Hollywood switch to Obama
J,
DPD understands that. He just get's annoyed with the bull he sees sometimes and every now and then he'll just be like,
"Damn it, ya'll stop fussin !" and then he goes on. He's like a Dad.
He's cool.
;p
My thoughts are with Molly Ivins today...
Ivins hospitalized in ongoing battle with cancer
AUSTIN, Texas Liberal Texas newspaper columnist Molly Ivins has been hospitalized in her ongoing battle with breast cancer.Ivins assistant Betsy Moon says her boss may be able to go home Monday. She adds that those close to Ivins are "not sure what's going to happen, but she's very sick."
The 62-year-old columnist had taken a break from her syndicated column, but resumed writing earlier this month. Her most recent column appeared two weeks ago, when Ivins urged readers to stand against President Bush's plan to send more troops to Iraq.
In the January Eleventh column, Ivins wrote -- quote -- "We are the people who run this country. We are the deciders. And every single day, every single one of us needs to step outside and take some action to help stop this war." She added -- "We need people in the streets, banging pots and pans and demanding, 'Stop it, now!'"
Okay since I have taken the issue this far, let me step into the water.
Is there supposed to be some unwritten clause that the bloggers shouldn't heartedly debate the candidates so as not to portray the party in disarray because some folks say not to do so???
Many die in Iraq pet market blast
A bomb detonated at a Baghdad pet market has killed at least 15 people and injured 35 others, police say. Full Story:
Posted by DPD on January 26, 2007 at 01:43 PM
Hollywood Has More Clout Than Some Want To Admit
Posted by J on January 26, 2007 at 01:46 PM
It's all good. No Rules. Just Fun.
Is there supposed to be some unwritten clause that the bloggers shouldn't heartedly debate the candidates so as not to portray the party in disarray because some folks say not to do so???Posted by J on January 26, 2007 at 01:46 PM
No one asked you not to discuss the candiadates and their positions, they simply asked you to stop repeating the right wing rag "Insight" as a credible source.
And to be quite honest, you haven't even mentioned an actual policy or issues related statement in your attack on Senator Clinton.
Those here who know me, know that She is not the Candidate for me, nor is Obama, but they do know that I will (as will they) call any poster out about repeating bullshit that has no basis in reality, nor has it been cooberated, and in fact has been denied by all people involved.
We are perfectly aware of the role of money in politics, and how hard hitting ALL of the candidates can be, but we require proof and backup of slanderous assertions. Neither of which you supply.
Your "Opinion" does not make it fact, and fortunately, we here are rooted in the reality and fact based world.
Now that I have come and put a downer on everybody's Friday, back to the grind. :)
Peace \/
Now that I have come and put a downer on everybody's Friday, back to the grind. :)Peace \/
Posted by J on January 26, 2007 at 01:57 PM
LOL
TTYL
........and DON'T forget to check your messages!
Bye
So, I see our Oktoberfest waiter thinks that the Constitution should be changed because it's a Dem, but an alcoholic crack head in the White House is A-OK as long as there is always "glorious War". From what I've read, Johnson is mentally sharper than Ted ("a series of tubes") Stevens, who should resign and take that nut job from NC with him.
And to be quite honest, you haven't even mentioned an actual policy or issues related statement in your attack on Senator Clinton.
Those here who know me, know that She is not the Candidate for me, nor is Obama, but they do know that I will (as will they) call any poster out about repeating bullshit that has no basis in reality, nor has it been cooberated, and in fact has been denied by all people involved.
Posted by Robert_Burnsey_Koenig on January 26, 2007 at 01:54 PM
Do you actually want me to go there?
Simply put Hillary Clinton is a centrist/DLC therefore of no help or value to the majority of the people in this country in particular people of color.
The views given are just that, views, NOT attacks which obviously there seems to be a problem if something is negatively said about her?
and I don't think you qualify to say who is or isn't root in reality here.
Maybe they could pull a Laura Bush and have the papers "disappeared", just like they did with HER vehicular homicide and W's many many many DUI's and his rapes of minors. At least Kennedy addressed it, alky the crackhead killed so many brain cells he doesn't remember what he was drinking last night, let alone this morning.
YOU ARE INVITED :
TO................
Walk A Mile In Barack Obama Shoes!
:)
Is there supposed to be some unwritten clause that the bloggers shouldn't heartedly debate the candidates so as not to portray the party in disarray because some folks say not to do so???
Posted by J on January 26, 2007 at 01:46 PM
J, No, but I personally am hoping that this blog does not turn into the mean spirited, nasty campaigning that we had here in 2004. I think coming in, expressing your opinion on a candidate is fine, but if one has to resort to trying to tear down other candidates, in order to raise their own up, well that is unfair.
btw, to you and FOS, I think you would be very surprised at how happy a lot of people around the country are, that Hillary finally declared. I have relatives and friends in various states, and they have all been emailing their elation! Let me ask you both seriously, if Obama were not running, would you feel as strongly against Hillary as you do?
You want my opinion on all this early circus? I think it is going to break down to in the end, being Hillary/Obama. then in 8 years, no one can use the in-experience factor for Obama and he will be a shoe-in. But that is just MHO.
Served_in_Germany, you seem to be very proud of your service which you indicate by your screen name includes service in Germany. Being proud of service in what most GI's consider R&R land would be typical of a Republican since most Republicans never dawn a uniform, period. So for one who served in Korea I find you a poor spokesperson for any service related issue. Between the Beer Gardens and the Ladies I'm sure you found much to occupy your time. And you quips are showing your colors.
Okay since I have taken the issue this far, let me step into the water.
Posted by J on January 26, 2007 at 01:46 PM
alrighty then, i'll join in this good natured water fight and add that none of us should skip supper by going directly to dessert without first waiting to see what's on the menu. rumours, like liver, should be rejected out of hand, but all the candidates should be given their opportunity to lay out their agenda. that's what i'll be looking for, and so will most voters, whether they're bloggers or not. and by the way...let's all push as hard as we can to have the internet community's voice heard at the '08 democratic national convention!
What is truly sad is that so many blacks still rally behind the Clintons because Bill gives them the feel that he has taken their causes to heart. and maybe they have in some ways.
Bottom line: these folks are conservative DEMS and are not to heart with black folks as the public has been led to believe.
Look let's not act as if we (democrats) don't play Hard and dirty. As I said before we do not know if it's the war mongers (republicans)or if this is from home but, if it is it will back fire
on her. That attack was completely classless who ever did it.
if Obama were not running, would you feel as strongly against Hillary as you do?
PamB,
A resounding,
HELL YES!
I felt this way when I wanted Feingold to run , just noone was paying any attention. I have already stated that if Barack Obama was not running, I would be supporting John Edwards just as hard as I am Obama.
BTW, I would support a Fluffy-the-Cat/Toto-the-Dog2008 before I support any ticket with Hillary on it.
I speak the same way about her as I do Joe Lieberman because IMHO, they are very similar.
That attack was completely classless who ever did it.Posted by IJP on January 26, 2007 at 02:15 PM
Exactly. That's all I was saying too. However, for some reason, because I have Barack Ombamas name on my username, "I'm attacking Hill Hill Hillray!"
ROFLMAO!
It's amazing to ME to note the top two on THIS poll are not even announced (yet). I wonder who the real rock stars are eh? LOL
Who would you pick for President in 08
1.
Jon Stewart (not currently running, lol) 0 0%
2.
Wes Clark (hasn't announced, yet) 36 71%
3.
John Edwards 1 2%
4.
Hillary Clinton 1 2%
5.
Gov. Vilsak 0 0%
6.
Bill Richardson 1 2%
7.
Joe Biden 0 0%
8.
Dennis Kucinich 2 4%
9.
Barack Obama 2 4%
10.
Al Gore (undecided) 8 16%
double votes are being deleted as I have a list of IP numbers.
Bottom line: these folks are conservative DEMS and are not to heart with black folks as the public has been led to believe.Posted by J on January 26, 2007 at 02:12 PM
BULL!
That one poll that the Media keeps referring to was done of only 386 Blacks. That's the same damn Rassmussen poll they have been passing around.
BULL!
(I bet those Blacks are from the "Plantation Mentality" Southern States too)
It's amazing to ME to note the top two on THIS poll are not even announced (yet). I wonder who the real rock stars are eh? LOL
Who would you pick for President in 08
1.
Jon Stewart (not currently running, lol) 0 0%
2.
Wes Clark (hasn't announced, yet) 36 71%
3.
John Edwards 1 2%
4.
Hillary Clinton 1 2%
5.
Gov. Vilsak 0 0%
6.
Bill Richardson 1 2%
7.
Joe Biden 0 0%
8.
Dennis Kucinich 2 4%
9.
Barack Obama 2 4%
10.
Al Gore (undecided) 8 16%
double votes are being deleted as I have a list of IP numbers.
ok did I post this twice? blog is acting funky
OUT again! Peace
Do you actually want me to go there?Simply put Hillary Clinton is a centrist/DLC therefore of no help or value to the majority of the people in this country in particular people of color.
The views given are just that, views, NOT attacks which obviously there seems to be a problem if something is negatively said about her?
and I don't think you qualify to say who is or isn't root in reality here.
Posted by J on January 26, 2007 at 02:07 PM
Yes, please go there.
You asked a question and I gave you an answer. Simply saying that she is a member of the DLC is not discussing the issue. And she and her Husband have done much people of color, I suppose much to your chagrin.
And if you had bothered to read my post, you would see that she is NOT my candidate. I beleive she has pandered to far to the right in much of the legislation she has supported (the flag burnning law she supported is one example, and her lack of support for marriage equality for another).
And your "views" that you posted earlier were not views, they were the spreading of the right wing crap fest called "Insight" magazine, tou haven't touched on any actual issue in regards to her polocies and legislative history, you simply said she's a clinton and they are mean and dirty politicians. That hardly qualifies as discussing her record and her viewpoints as a possible candidate.
As for me not being qualified to describe who is and isn't rooted in reality, I disagree.
MY LIFE IS REALITY.
If you wish to argue about a politicians political stances and policy then please, start trashing her record, I have no problem with that, and in fact express my disdain for her on a regular basis. But based on her POLICY not on her percieved personality.
You simply attempted to smear her without discussing the actual issue.
Please, tell us what stances she has taken that support your point of view. Many here might just agree with you on the issues, not on the slander.
I hope people understand why I wrote what I wrote if this dirty politics starts between us, this infighting is just going to give us four more years of a republican that's all. Now who wants that sh*t???
Well, FOS , thanks for an honest opinion, and I agree with j's comments about the Clinton's both belonging to the DLC group, and have bought into their belief that moving to the center will buy Southern votes, by cramping rights for minorities, women, workers. The original DLC group came out against minimum wage, and were against taking such a strong stand with blacks. So I too have no use for them. WHY would Dems want to move to the right? At what point does a moderate Dem decide they will be a Dem, instead of moderate Republican? 6 of one, 1/2 dozen of the other.
But I think that the Clinton's are not caught in the same situation they were, when Bill was President and the Republicans took the majority and he was forced to ride along with them.
Don't get me wrong, I have not made up my mind as to which candidate I will back. Many people here in CT jumping on Chris Dodd's bandwagon. He is a liberal. But I need more time to study them all, before I throw my hat in the ring.
Dawnie,
Was my vote counted?
It was very slow processing and I get really impatient. I clicked a few times and then closed the window. Can you make it go faster?
(I bet those Blacks are from the "Plantation Mentality" Southern States too)
Posted by FreedomOfSpeechForBarackObama2008 on January 26, 2007 at 02:22 PM
LOL that is funny as hell, they probably are lmao
Posted by Dawnie on January 26, 2007 at 02:21 PM
thank you, dawnie. it's way too early to be stirring up such a tempest in a tea pot that hasn't even steeped yet. i'm sure the trolls are lovin' it. what we need is to build constructive ideas that people can use to help each other...just a thought.
Where have I heard THIS crapola before? Oh yeah, right before they insisted they had to go invade Iraq!!!
"The Bush administration in recent weeks has toughened its stance against Iran, which the West has accused of seeking to secretly build an atomic bomb, raising fears among political and business leaders that the U.S. plans an attack.
President George W. Bush has moved an additional aircraft carrier into the Gulf and told Iran that he would not allow it to provide weapons and support to insurgents in Iraq.
Posted by FreedomOfSpeechForBarackObama2008 on January 26, 2007 at 02:16 PM
Feingold, ahh, I really was upset that he bowed out. That was a politician I could have whole-heartedly supported.
Russ is a fine politician and his stance on Marriage Equality is one others should emulate.
There should be a moratorium on this nonsense until 2-10-07 which is the EARLIEST anyone can declare. Personally, I'll wait to see what shakes out, and who is actually running (and not just posturing for an early Veep slot)and then LISTEN TO WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY before I start blowing off fireworks.
Posted by PamB on January 26, 2007 at 02:28 PM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
That's cool. I was actually rooting for Sen. Feingold all the way up till the very end when he announced that he wasn't going to go for it after the November Elections. While I was paying attention to Feingold, I had John Edwards as a back up because I supported him in all they way back in 2003 during the Primaries. Then, out of nowhere, Barack Obama caught my attention and got me all excitde about having a REAL Democrat in the White House with a fresh new face and YOUNG. I had struggled to pick one. I decided to go for him. John Edwards is literally, right next to him on my list though. After the 10th of Febuary, if Obama opts in, I will change my user to Obama/Edwards 2008 and keep it that way untill the Democratic Primaries. Then, I will go from there. I planned it all out.
What can I say ? I'm a Virgo. I can't help it.
;p
Hey FOS
Yes Obama now has 3 votes up from 2. I understand your passion for the man. He's very charismatic.
What I'm most afraid of is the DEM/DEM/DEM factor that would no doubt freak out the bubble of Washington.
Just the thought of a Dem House a Dem Senate and a Dem President might send some pugs to commit hary cary or something. LOL
It's never to early to be passionate and I understand everyone has their preferences. I just want it to be a DEMOCRAT (well other than LIEBerdouche)
I will actually MARCH for Wes though. He's always been my logical choice since before 2004. Second would be GORE of course and that combo would have me crying happy tears for weeks!!
ok who keeps draggin me bck? LOL
before i have to take off i'd like to thank everyone for the concerns they shared last month about my mother's lung cancer. unfortunately, she passed away recently. she will be missed.
thanks again
btw...great ideas do not need a constituancy.
Feingold said he's not going to run for President. He said nothing about waiting until Summer '08 and trying for a Veep position.
Posted by DPD on January 26, 2007 at 02:37 PM
I agree. It seems as if we are always in a perpetual state of "election". We should follow the lead of the British on this matter. They can't polotik until 6 months before the election, and it is a fairly successful system. Besides which, with all of these Senators running, who is actually doing their job in the Senate?
Presidential Candidates miss so much of the legislative period when running for office, we certainly don't need to have them missing in action for an additional year and a half. One has to wonder who will be doing the peoples business while they are triangulating and posturing.
Too early and such a waste of time.
A good one from another blog:
"American politics is ugly these days, and many people wish things were different. For example, Barack Obama recently lamented the fact that "politics has become so bitter and partisan" - which it certainly has.
But he then went on to say that partisanship is why "we can't tackle the big problems that demand solutions. And that's what we have to change first." Um, no. If history is any guide, what we need are political leaders willing to tackle the big problems despite bitter partisan opposition. If all goes well, we'll eventually have a