Tuesday Open Thread
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Good morning, everyone.
Wyden seeks bipartisan support of health care plan
Survey shows 13 pct of Americans never heard of global warming
Thirteen percent of Americans have never heard of global warming even though their country is the world's top source of greenhouse gases, a 46-country survey showed on Monday.
The report, by ACNielsen of more than 25,000 Internet users, showed that 57 percent of people around the world considered global warming a "very serious problem" and a further 34 percent rated it a "serious problem."
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The study also found that 91 percent of people had heard about global warming and 50 percent reckoned it was caused by human activities.
Good morning Es, sorry to hear you are a bit under the weather.
Congress begins tackling climate issues
Two private advocacy groups say they have found evidence of political pressure on government climate scientists at seven federal agencies in efforts to downplay the threat of global warming.
Their report was expected to be presented to a House committee Tuesday as the Democratic-controlled Congress steps up its examination of the Bush administration's climate policy.
Thanks, K. One more, then back to my sickbed. (don't tell bluzy, but I'm gonna listen to tv news from there...no laptop)
Senator targets surplus sales to Iran
A Democratic senator wants to cut off all Pentagon sales of surplus F-14 parts, saying the military's marketing of the spares "defies common sense" in light of their importance to Iran.
i worked for 34 for the government. one reason was because there was a health plan that you could still be a part of after you retired. if you had sick days on the books when you retired ( i had 200 ) they would be given a cash value. while you didn't get the cash the amount is amortized and used to pay part of your monthly premiums. what i like about the plan is i can select my own specialists that are off plan if i am willing to pay 20% out of pocket for what the off plan doctor charges and what the plan allows for his or her services. there are 145 million or so americans covered by similar plans.
now both republicans and democrats want to nullify these contratual agreements and come up with some system that won't offer me the kind of quality deal i worked for?
here is my idea: take ten percent of the profits of all corportations that make a home in the united states ( exxon, microsoft, peebody coal, halliburton, etc. ) in addition to what they already pay---which usually ain't much. call it the "living in a safe country tax"...then demand five percent of the profits all large companies that sell us shit make ( toyota,bmw, honda, mitsubishi, etc. ) call it "the dealing with the richest most consumptive country in the world tax" and you'll have your 1.4 trillion and then some. any corporation that doesn't want to play from abroad can't trade with us and any corporation in this country that won't play needs to get out. and if they do choose to leave it opens up new markets for united states based corporations.....use the money insure the 41 million or so poor bastards who have been listening to our bullshit leaders whine about how they need to be the only major industrial nation in the world that doesn't see to it that everyone has some sort of coverage because of their bullshit ideological beliefs.
sound radical? sound rash? well so is suggesting a bunch of bozos in the millionaires club should cook up some wacky idea and use it to wipe out plans that folks worked to secure for a hundred years.
unless you believe we will all have the same health plan as senators....in which case you are truely niave...not you essie....the other you.
tell the senator to run that up the flag pole and stop jerking me off.
geez at least someone could take the time to call me a commie!
Oh, my bad gregg, commie kinko's user pig... or something to that effect.... ;)
Posted by gregg on January 30, 2007 at 10:28 AM
commie! ;)
gregg, I'll never pass up an oppurtunity to call somebody a commie kinko's user pig, ever. Especially when it's opened up the way you did it. ;)
Gregg....this is just a flyby, I can't stay, but answer one quick question for me, are you down in the root cellar again drinking up all of "our" martunis?
And did the nuts from the nut house join you again?...Seriously, Gregg..have a great day....John Boy..
i appreciate the work waxman is doing in this area but to me these efforts to deny the american people the products of their own scientists should be felony crimes and bush and his minions should be in court facing big jail time:
MSNBC staff and news service reports
Updated: 7 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - The Democratic-controlled Congress on Tuesday stepped up its pressure on President Bush’s global warming strategy, hearing allegations of new political pressure on government scientists to downplay the threat of global warming.
Lawmakers received survey results of federal scientists that showed 46 percent felt pressure to eliminate the words “climate change,” “global warming” or similar terms from communications about their work.
The scientists also reported 435 instances of political interference in their work over the past five years.
The new allegations were made at a hearing of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, chaired by Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif.
Nearly half cited edits
The Union of Concerned Scientists, a private advocacy group, and the Government Accountability Project, a legal-assistance group that represents whistle-blowers, sent out the survey to 1,600 scientists. Surveys were returned by 308 scientists. Not all answered every question, but the survey found that:
43 percent of respondents reported edits during review of their work that changed the meaning of their findings.
46 percent felt administrative requirements that impaired climate-related work.
67 percent said the environment for federal government climate research is worse now than five years ago.
The groups urged lawmakers to ensure “scientists’ constitutional right to speak about any subject in their private lives and allowing scientists to make ultimate decisions about the communication of their research.”
“The new Congress must act to prevent the continued interference with science for political purposes,” said GAP attorney Tarek Maassarani. “A good first step would be for Congress to amend current whistle blower protections to specifically protect the rights of federal government scientists.”
there are so many ways bush and his piglets have put our lives at jeapordy. time for them to go to jail
The downside to congress passing the sales tax deduction so late last year it is making it very difficult to file my taxes. First I had to wait three weeks the tax software to get the update and now the IRS isn't accepting e-filed returns from states impacted by the new rules for another week.
I realize this is small in the grand scheme of it all, but with this job search dragging on longer than I would like it to it would sure be nice to get that return into the savings account.
home on the range. picking up the kid's messes, being daddy and that sorta thing.
Report: FBI conducting sweeping Internet wiretaps that mirror warantless NSA surveillance
John Byrne
Published: Tuesday January 30, 2007
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"The FBI appears to have adopted an invasive Internet surveillance technique that collects far more data on innocent Americans than previously has been disclosed," according to a story posted Tuesday on ZDNet, a technology news website.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Report_FBI_conducting_sweeping_Internet_wiretaps_0130.html
Posted by Kristen on January 30, 2007 at 11:28 AM
Job searches stink, especially these days. I've been looking for something different for over a year now and one of two things keeps happening; the jobs available will be a paycut or the couple of interviews I've had they hired somebody they knew.
Here's WHY trolls and Republicans think there isn't any such thing as Global Warming!
WASHINGTON - Two private advocacy groups told a congressional hearing Tuesday that climate scientists at seven government agencies say they have been subjected to political pressure aimed at downplaying the threat of global warming
laura bush must have read the new pastry chef's book before she hired him.
Posted by PamB on January 30, 2007 at 11:33 AM
That's nothing that suprises me. With the whackos in control, we're slowly turning into Orwell's Nineteen-eightyfour. Where are the true "conservatives" whom apparently dislike any sort of government involvement in the private lives of the citizens?
hehehe..........
"Sen. Norm Coleman (R-MN) returned to Capitol Hill this week with a prominent gash on his forehead after he was knocked nearly unconscious back home in St. Paul while -- of all things -- dumpster diving," the Washington Post's Mary Ann Akers reported Friday afternoon in an almost unnoticed item.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Underreported_Sen._Coleman_injured_dumpster_diving_0129.html
specter who helped get shitheads like roberts and scalito on the supreme court now raises his weak little hand from the back of the room and mummbles something he should have screamed six years ago...get him a job in the mailroom and let's move on. from salon:
Senator: Bush Not Sole 'Decision-Maker'
By LAURIE KELLMAN Associated Press Writer
January 30,2007 | WASHINGTON -- A Senate Republican on Tuesday directly challenged President Bush's declaration that "I am the decision-maker" on issues of war.
"I would suggest respectfully to the president that he is not the sole decider," Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., said during a hearing on Congress' war powers amid an increasingly harsh debate over Iraq war policy. "The decider is a shared and joint responsibility," Specter said.
remind me not to get a federal prosecutor on my ass. from salon:
Libby Reportedly Said 'I Didn't Do It'
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By MATT APUZZO Associated Press Writer
January 30,2007 | WASHINGTON -- Amid the furor over the 2003 leak of a CIA operative's identity, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, bluntly told a White House lawyer, "I didn't do it," the lawyer testified Tuesday.
David Addington, who served as Cheney's legal counsel during the CIA leak scandal, described a September 2003 meeting with Libby around the time that a criminal investigation began.
"I just want to tell you, I didn't do it," Addington recalled Libby saying. "I didn't ask what the 'it' was."
Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald says Libby discussed CIA operative Valerie Plame with reporters, then lied about those conversations. He is accused of perjury and obstruction but neither he nor anyone else is charged with the leak itself.
Recalling their 2003 conversation in Libby's office, Addington testified Tuesday that Libby was curious about how someone could determine whether a CIA employee was working undercover. Addington, a former CIA counsel, said there's no way to know.
Addington said he gave Libby a highlighted copy of the federal law barring disclosure of the identity of covert agents.
Fitzgerald hopes Addington's testimony will bolster his argument that Libby was worried about whether his conversations with reporters were improper and therefore lied to conceal them...
"dumpster diving"?
guess he is practicing for the 08 elections cause that is where his chances are....
The answer should be clear. Since the President is adamant about pursuing his failed policies in Iraq, Congress has the duty to stand up and use its power to stop him. If Congress doesn’t stop this war, it’s not because it doesn’t have the power. It’s because it doesn’t have the will. --Russ Feingold
for everyone who thinks its a good idea to build more nuclear weapons, for the politicians who cut the funds intended to secure the former soviet unions arsenal, for the gang at redstate and in the white house who think " everything is on the table", for the all the clowns from bush to bolton and on and on who want to undo the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, for all the uninformed who think an atomic detonation in one of our cities would be " manageable", for the pigs in iran and north korea and india and pakistan who long to "join the club" for all those who are responsible for our port security and do nothing, for the morons who yesterday delcared that nuclear power plants shouldn't have to figure out how to be protected from airliner attacks...just how to minimize the fallout....in other words for all the assholes:
the real deal about "small" nuclear weapons
DEMOCRAT PARTY" INSULT WAS TESTED BY REPUBLICAN PR FIRM
During his State of the Union Address, President Bush said the following:
Some in this chamber are new to the House and the Senate -- and I congratulate the Democrat majority. (Applause.)
Hearing this, Democrats in Congress reacted with understandable anger at this well-known epithet developed and used by Republicans to muddy the name of Democratic Party. But, lo and behold, rather than actually research this issue,the Washington Post took the easy way out and simply regurgitated the White House talking points delivered by Tony Snow--reporting that Bush apologized for using the phrase without knowing it ("Bush Says Missing "-ic" Was an Oversight," Washington Post, 20 Jan 2007).
He didn't know it?
The Washington Post might be surprised to learn that that the phrase "Democrat Party" appears on the White House web site dozens of times as used by President Bush. But they might be even more surprised to learn that the phrase "Democrat Party" is a focus-group tested strategy deployed by the Republican Party's top PR strategist--who has also admitted to intentionally using it in his recent book--a book that is currently on the Amazon.com best seller list.
Honestly, though, how can we possibly expect the Washington Post to conduct all of this difficult research into the Republican use of "Democrat Party," which took me all of ten arduous minutes.
At the very least, though, they could go over to the New Yorker online and read a recent article by Hendrik Hertzberg on the topic, which lays out the whole story.
"The history of “Democrat Party” [slur] is hard to pin down with any precision," wrote Hendrik Hertzberg in a great piece called "The "Ic" Factor" that appeared last summer in New Yorker (8 Aug 2007). It may be hard to pin down, but Hertzberg does a fantastic job.
http://jeffrey-feldman.typepad.com/frameshop/2007/01/frameshop_washi.html
India's Leader Says All Must Heed Gandhi
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By MATTHEW ROSENBERG Associated Press Writer
January 30,2007 | NEW DELHI -- The world's nations must heed Mohandas Gandhi's philosophy and provide for all their people while keeping greed in check, India's prime minister said Tuesday, as the country marked the 59th anniversary of the Indian icon's assassination.
THEN STOP TRYING TO GET NUCLEAR WEAPONS YOU SHIT HEAD AND TELL BUSH YOU WILL NOT TRADE WITH HIS COUNTRY UNLESS HE DEMANDS PAKISTAN GETS RID OF THEIRS!!!!
not you essie....the other you.
tell the senator to run that up the flag pole and stop jerking me off.
Posted by gregg on January 30, 2007 at 10:28 AM
The other me was merely posting news, you commie. ;p
yeah, comrade gregg, take some personal responsibility for your health care and quit expecting the Government to do it for you! :)
At least 40 killed in Iraq attacks
Attacks as Iraqi Shia mark Ashura
At least 40 people have been killed in a wave of attacks across Iraq at the climax of Ashura, the most important Shia Muslim religious festival.
Full Story:
In need of cash, Dems see billions in biotech
Senior Democratic lawmakers are close to introducing legislation to create a pathway for the approval of generic biological drugs in the hopes that the cheaper medicines will create billions of dollars in budget savings, which could be used to offset some of the cost of expanding federal health programs.
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Democratic leaders and committee chairmen in both the House and Senate are considering a menu of costly healthcare items such as enhancing the Medicare Part D prescription-drug benefit and expanding the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP).
well i have really taken some strong positions today. i guess a fever and martini brings out the maniac in me!
Democrats unveil massive spending bill
Democrats have unveiled a massive spending bill combining the budgets of 13 Cabinet agencies with increases in aid for lower-income college students, while cutting President Bush's funding requests for foreign aid and closing military bases.
Posted by PamB on January 30, 2007 at 12:52 PM
That's right, he didn't know. gee golly whiz and all that.
No Offense, but ...
“The idea that somehow I was trying to needle the Democrats, it’s just — gosh — it’s probably Texas,” he said. “Who knows what it is. But I’m not that good at pronouncing words anyway.”
Australian PM welcomes Cheney visit
"Vice President Cheney's visit will be an important opportunity to reinforce the strong bilateral relationship between the United States and Australia and to consult on major international issues such as regional security challenges, Afghanistan, Iraq and the war against terrorism."
Howard said last week he would not pull Australian troops out of Iraq in the face of spiralling sectarian violence and growing voter discontent over the conflict.
Ray guns and plastic ice: Pentagon looks to sci-fi weaponry
The space-age weapons of Star Wars are not beyond the imagination of researchers at DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency of the US Department of Defense.
The Note: 41+42-43=44?
She can't sing (Thanks, MSNBC LINK), and she is often accused of dancing and acting too much, and/but. . . Hillary Clinton just might be the next president of the United States.
The RNC knows it. (They hit her on her ethanol gymnastics yesterday — but do they remember George W. Bush's Des Moines Marriott conversion on the issue in 1999, a moment that made even Howard Fineman blush?)
I just caught Senator Schumer on Martha Stewart's show this morning. He had some great ideas and was promoting his book.
I don't necessarily agree that Hilary is the best candidate but I think I'll pick up his book.
TimeWarner Cable has already managed to piss me off.
I'm sleeping sound and they send a Tech to walk in for a follow up, look at my computer and T.V and then go,
"Okay. Thanks. Sorry I woke you"
Annoying ayaez!
So on that note,
GOOD AFTERNOON?
:)
ok, I'm going back to my sickbed. fuddy duddies!
Here, a morsel from the ABC link:
Other Dems' chance to shine
The upcoming winter meeting of the Democratic National Committee is the first beauty contest for the party's long list of White House contenders and a chance for someone other than Barack Obama or Hillary Rodham Clinton to catch a headline.
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The DNC winter meeting is a mini-convention attended by an influential cadre of party activists. The theme is "Strong Leadership for America's Future" and will also feature the newly empowered Democratic congressional leaders.
As far as the slur Bush used during the SOTU speech it's not even close to the first time he has publicly insulted Democrats and Independents. Bush's current Spokesliar Snow claims Bush said he misspoke. George W. Bush did not misspeak he publicly on a world-wide stage cynically insulted Democrats. He's accused Democrats, publicly, of being cowards "cut and run Democrats" and traitors "dissent enables the enemy". Bush is not a nice person no matter what the press or his deluded admirers believe. It's apparently not good enough to insult, degrade and threaten other nations he cynically does this to American citizens as well.
peace
well i have really taken some strong positions today. i guess a fever and martini brings out the maniac in me!
Posted by gregg on January 30, 2007 at 01:35 PM
That's it gregg, It's time for an intervention.
;p
fos, just tell me where to show up and don't make believe it is a surprise birthday party! :)
gregg, (tears)
You have to stop this. (gulp) gregg, we love you. We only want what's best for you (sigh) gregg, you can't continue like this (sob) oh gregg, please.You have to do it for yourself, you family, the DNC Community,(blink) You have to...
You have to......
You have to......
TOTALLY STAY SHET-FACED! DUDE! (WHOO HOOO!)
'P
ooooh,
Breaking News!
Speaker Pelosi is about to speak about something, tune into MSNBC (I know. I know) and wait for her to come on.
bbl.................
hey fos thanks for the pelosi heads up. as an italian american all i can say is hey mombo, mombo italiano....gonna take a liter of vodka and go watch.
URGENT CALL!
SEN. RUSS FEINGOLD NEEDS OUR HELP!
WATCH THE VIDEO!
SIGN THE PETITION!
LET HIM KNOW WE ARE BEHIND HIM!
I just filled out a form that our Honorable Senator Barbara Boxer emailed me, asking for our input on environment priorities. She is now the Chairman of the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works. Feel free to respond to it, too: http://ga4.org/pacforachange/gw_agenda_pub.html?member_key=s7ekn7rp6dt86d&
I'm so glad to see you all here sharing such terrific ideas! Here's what I wrote to Senator Barbara Boxer, and I wanted to share it with the Democratic Party in general:
"Senator Boxer, your new chairmanship brings tears of joy to my eyes! Every chance we have, let's not be afraid to pin the blame squarely where it belongs, with wealth-loving, immoral Republicans. Let’s demonstrate that their values are upside-down. Let’s speak confidently, counter their negative rhetoric with the truth, not apologize. Let's be unimpeachable. If we know of Democrat members of Congress without high moral standards, let's pressure them to change or be replaced. Let’s not ignore the poor, sick, mentally ill, and addicted, who can blossom with help. Let’s also stop fraud by those who just want to work the system. Let’s reduce crime by assisting the drug-addicted and poor, and by assisting families with childcare and emotional needs so they don't abuse their children who grow up twisted and lash out against others. Let’s hold violent offenders accountable for their actions and not let them out to do it again when they have a high recidivism rate."
These should be our legislative priorities, applying the best minds in our country to developing solutions, not brushing these critical issues under the carpet and blaming the victims, as the Republican Party likes to do.
There are just SO many excellent reasons to impeach Bush! He's wide open! Let's do it! *grin*
I realize that I completely got off the topic of global warming solutions. I had already ranked my favorites. It's unbelievable how bad global warming has already gotten, and the Republicans are still pretending it doesn't exist. Helllloooo Special Interests! This hurts you, too, in one way or another!
Posted by Tigrrl on January 30, 2007 at 03:52 PM
I will sign ANY thing that my former California Senator, Barbara Boxer asks me to. I know she has always been in the fore front on Environmental issues.
Please, will you sign my new Senators Petition as it deals with the war in Iraq?
Thank you so much for your post.
:)
Tigrrl ,
Something is wrong with the link to the petition. I'm unable to access it. Where did you get it so I can sign it?
I think this thing has Cheney and Rumsfeld written all over it.
Analysis: Najaf battle raises questions
By ROBERT H. REID, Associated Press Writer
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Accounts of the bloody battle near Najaf have produced more questions than answers, raising doubts about Iraqi security forces' performance and concern over tensions within the majority Shiite community.
Among the questions: How did a messianic Shiite cult, the "Soldiers of Heaven," accumulate so many weapons and — if Iraqi accounts are accurate — display such military skills? Iraqi forces prevailed only after U.S. and British jets blasted the militants with rockets, machine gunfire and 500-pound bombs. Both U.S. and Iraqi reinforcements had to be sent to the fight...
//news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070130/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_what_happened
Why would it be necessary to use 500 lb. bombs on a rag tag group of 200 cult members including many women and children?
If it raises this many questions by a sleeping MSM, you can bet it was somebody's idea of a publicity "show battle" over in the Pentagon...and I'm not talking about the military in the Pentagon.
Who is Cheney's point man over there in the Pentagon? I've had a hard time keeping up with all the changes, as Darth plants his worms in various secretive and undisclosed locations in new and old military and spy agencies.
Russ Feingold in the Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer after the break.........
Tune in.
:)
Okay, I guess it's coming after this segment on Mitt Romney.
CNN: The Most Annoying Name in News.
;p
By the way, Good afternoon.
gregg,
Keep drinking whatever you've been consuming.
I thought your earlier post about taking control of our own markets from the mulitnationals was quite inspired. The Chinese and Russians did it in the early 1900's and it helped stop the Guilded Age right in it's tracks.
It also made it possible for the advent of a flourishing middle class in this country...till the Reagan era put out the welcome mat for cheap illegal workers and Newt started outsourcing all our skilled and technical jobs.
It might be time for another readjustment. Who cares what happens to the multinationals? They aren't Americans. I don't care if the whole new world economic order crashes and burns.
And those Republicans that have conspired against the working man in this country with these multinationals need to crash and burn, too.
Just try to tax our medical benefits as income or undermine our social security system. It's time for the GOP to move to Paraguay or give back their tax cuts.
Posted by SandyH on January 30, 2007 at 04:34 PM
Sorry, SandyH.
;p.
I've been post-n-running all afternoon and did'nt see your post.
Hi.
:)
I'm still waiting for my apology for being called a Dixiecrat, and an idiot? What do you have to say, FOS?
While I wait, let's sit on the couch and chat, shall we?
What would a psychologist say if I admitted that I 1. smoked cigeretttes, 2, did coke, 3, once ran against a vetern civil rights hero before it was my time, 4, considered running against people who done much more for Democrats, and are immenently more qualified, 5. ran a law journal once???
Humm... I'm thinking the shrink might say that an obsessive/compulsive disorder is a possible conclusion.
I'm just wondering why Obama didn't stay in the investment adviser field? Must've been pretty good work in the Clinton days. In all fairness, corporations are making a killin now too.
Humm... President Obama.... humm it's got a certain ring to it.
I think we have some real political masterminds at work.
Hey Power of Equality! What do smoking CIGARETTES and doing coke have to do with being obsessive compulsive? For that matter what do the other three have to do with it, either? Would you like to try another disorder?
And who has the right to say who is more qualified than another? The person who doesn't even know how to utilize the English language?
And no, you certainly aren't getting an apology from me, idiot.
Russ Feingold is right. He is absolutly right. He is taking on Wolf Blitzers questions. We really should be questioning the decision making ability and judgement of those who voted for this war and who are now unable to admit they were wrong. Especially those who want to be President of the United States. Russ feingold is absolutly correct !
I LOVE Russ Feingold! He rocks. Always!
:)
I love the new GOP Iranian ploy. They want us to believe that Iran is undermining Bush's debacle in Iraq...that this is the reason why it's a complete failure. It couldn't possibly be the White House's fault?
Since nobody buys into the neocon argument that bombing the Iranian nuke facilities (even if they knew where they were) is anything but stupid, they're trying to draw Iran into the blame for Iraq.
Cheney better just declare himself Caesar if he wants to continue on. The American public have had it with his bungling mistakes and lies. They will never support him again in the Middle East.
The neocon dream is slipping away fast, and in two years, it dies an long overdue death.
"I'm going to crank this sucker up." That's Bush's new Iranian attack slogan. It's a shame his policies never moves more than 20 feet at a time and then stall out.
I'm still waiting for my apology for being called a Dixiecrat, and an idiot? What do you have to say, FOS?
Oh, uh alert the Press. I'm about to make an announcement to POE.
Are ya Ready?
I apologize,
TO NO ONE!
;p
Posted by Power_of_Equality on January 30, 2007 at 04:48 PM
Just how many names are you going to use to ask for apologies from people in here?
Obama is like young John Kennedy. You can't stop the momentum. The more you try, the more he gains in stature whether he deserves it or not.
I'm sick of playing cat and mouse with the trolls on this board. You're fighting a losing battle. Your policies are unattractive, your leadership lackluster (if not plain stupid), and your war is a failure. Go talk amongst yourselves. Nobody owes you an apology.
I'm outta here.
Breaking News From CNN
Barack Obama just introduced a BINDING Resolution to end the War in Iraq by March 2008.
Stay tuned!
Obama 2008!
once ran against a vetern civil rights hero before it was my time,
Posted by Power_of_Equality on January 30, 2007 at 04:48 PM
Hmm..........."before his time". That seems to be the foundation of your opposition to Obama and along with he doesn't "step aside for senior DEMS". all of which fall into some Jim Crow category. You have danced around different reasons, none of which have any validity.
Very apparent that you have a PERSONAL dislike for Obama which has some racist overtones.
adds up to one thing - bigotry.
Posted by GregL on January 30, 2007 at 04:56 PM
Believe it or not, those traits are all signs of an obsessive/compulsive disorder. I'm not saying he is. I'm just saying we have a pattern here. It's all about me, regardless of the cost.
Like Michael Jordan and Pete Rose and gambling. Gambling is the same thing. It's obsessive/compulsive.
Everybody has the right to make that decision. We all have our factors of different weight. Some people actually think "charisma" is more important than experience. Hitler had Chrisma, and he didn't too good in the end, and some had experience, like... whoever, and didn't do too good.
(I'm sorry, Cheney and Rummy did not have real experience, as BHO says.)
So let's debate the facts without name calling. Okay?
"1 in 6 of our jobs today is in manufacturing exports". (Chimpy at the Caterpillar plant in Peoria today)
His grammar not withstanding, what was that figure before our jobs were shipped to China?
Howdy, ALL!
Yo, Obama hater, I'll ask again...
WHO DO YOU LIKE?
Hi D, J,
and later, SandyH (hugs)
:)
I heard Kennedy speak. And I heard Obama speak after the SOTU last week. And Barack Hussain Obama is no Jack Kennedy.
Posted by Power_of_Equality on January 30, 2007 at 05:16 PM
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Okay,
And.....Who's Presidential Exploritory Commitee are you trying to apply for ?
So obvious.
;p
Truthfully, I like them all except for the one who is very under-qualified to match up against the Repubs, and lead the Dems.
The Senate is not a major plus in Pres runs. And not much in the Senate is nothing to write home about it. Or maybe you think 6 years in the state senate is something special?
What's the obsession with Bobby Rush, and why do you keep using Obama's middle name (which HE didn't choose, BTW)?
You are a 1 trick pony, constantly and obsessively posting the SAME thing over and over on several threads for the past several weeks.
You don't like Obama. We GET it. WHO DO YOU LIKE? (Or more importantly, which candidate are you an operative for?).
Posted by SandyH on January 30, 2007 at 05:10 PM
Nice try. Sorry, I'm no troll. But say what you what. Post your credentials anytime.
So let's debate the facts without name calling. Okay?
Posted by Power_of_Equality on January 30, 2007 at 05:16 PM
I don't name call. More professionalism than that. I've watched and read your posts for sometime. I'm stating you for exactly what you portray yourself as.
a bigot.
checkin' out.
Peace \/
Okay, And.....Who's Presidential Exploritory Commitee are you trying to apply for ? So obvious.;p
Posted by FreedomOfSpeechForBarackObama2008 on January 30, 2007 at 05:21 PM
_________
Nobody, unlike you. Good thing race is not a factor as you SAY.
POE,
I bet you can't take your argument to the Group Code Pink. If you don't like what I'm saying, you won't be able to stand before these ladies.
Code Pink Stampedes Hillary Clinton's Office.
They won't leave till they get an answer! You are more likely to get an apology from me , than Code Pink is to get an answer from Hillary Clinton.
;p
Nobody, unlike you. Good thing race is not a factor as you SAY.
Posted by Power_of_Equality on January 30, 2007 at 05:29 PM
CORRECTION:
That's neither RACE nor UTEROUS is a factor in my support.
Does anybody remember that scene in Fahrenheit 9/11 where Wolfowitz licked his comb and ran it through his hair? Well, Kos has a post called "Paul Wolfowitz is a slob.", and it links to THIS PICTURE of Wolfie visiting a Turkish Mosque.
Pretty classy for the President of the World Bank, doncha t'ink?
Very apparent that you have a PERSONAL dislike for Obama which has some racist overtones.
adds up to one thing - bigotry.
Posted by J on January 30, 2007 at 05:13 PM
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There you go, race baiting. Not going to fall for it.
But I'm pretty sure I've done more in African American communities than you and ol' FOS. Or maybe you are respected as a community organizer? Anything? Rev. Jesse Jackson remember YOU?
No, I don't dislike HIM personally.
I personally dislike the way he is being used as a tool for the MSM, and allows his ego to be put ahead of the PEOPLE and PARTY. It's that simple. He can't win, and many know it.
And after reading about his history in the USA Today front page artice, I think I understand why he does what he does, regardless if it means the Dems would lose in '08, and what would happen to the disenfranchised, and the Supreme Court.
So people here don't see a red flag when he sticks up for Repugs when Dems have them on the ropes? He is doing it because it makes him look good to some to turn on Dems. That's egregious. Anyone who turns on the Dems when we have them on the run has a serious integrity issue.
Posted by DPD on January 30, 2007 at 05:41 PM
Ewww!
J,
WTF?
Does this fool even know we are Black? (Does Jessie Jackson know us?) Why the hell would I want Jessie Jackson to know me for? Gimmie a flippin break!
WTF?
ROFLMAO!
How seriously can you take anyone whose idea of research on a candidate is reading an article in USA Today?
That's like saying, I am well read because I have a subscription to Readers Digest.
POE,
I bet you can't take your argument to the Group Code Pink. If you don't like what I'm saying, you won't be able to stand before these ladies.
Posted by FreedomOfSpeechForBarackObama2008 on January 30, 2007 at 05:31 PM
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Don't know what you're talking about, but I've met them several times, in several cities. Some of them love me, and ask me to join them often for this or that. Alas, I'm over it. They are single isssue activists, IMO. I've ALWAYS done more than the latest war.
It's not Hillary's war. And it could be strongly argued that cutting funding for the troops endangers the troops, and will create another post-vietnam. Yes or no? Don't blame Hill or Bill.
If you ask me, if they signed up to pick up guns and do what the Commander in Chief says. So that's between them. I'm more concerned with other issues, like stem cell research funding.
Good evening fellow Democrats. May I respectfully remind all of my fellow Democrats that the Iowa Caucus is still a year away. Let's save some of this rhetoric for after Labor Day, shall we?
Posted by FreedomOfSpeechForBarackObama2008 on January 30, 2007 at 05:54 PM
Rev Jesse Jackson does not know you two, like he does me, because you two are not real hard-core civil rights activists who have done lots over the last 18 years that would bring you into contact with him at several major events.
You two have never spoken on the same stage with him to a huge crowd because you two are not that type of leader in the social justice movement, or maybe you are, and just choose to let others do the talking?
Why really organize in the streets when you can get in your comfey chairs, and call other Dems names, and post articles to the choir??? Wow, I'm really impressed with your WORKS.
But your emails to the choir are greatly appriciated.
Tell 'em it can be an ObamaNation with their support. LOL.
That's like saying, I am well read because I have a subscription to Readers Digest.
Posted by LaSt on January 30, 2007 at 05:57 PM
ROFLMAO!
I've worked myself up a pretty healthy appetite. I'm gonna go eat.
BBL
osted by BobVADemHawk-Gore-Clark2008 on January 30, 2007 at 05:58 PM
Thanks Bob. I agree with you. But my point is that unless we focus on the here and now accomplishments of the Dems, people will not know WHY they should vote for Dems.
I see all this candidate talk as a MSM hack job on Dems like Speaker Pelosi and Rep. Murtha. The MSM knows that people would go with the Dems IF they showed what was really going on in Washington.
And when someone here plays into that MSM game, and tries to take us Dems down the primrose path to ObamaNation, someone must refocus the subject and issue.
Thank you for your help and focus.
Tell 'em it can be an ObamaNation with their support. LOL.
Posted by Power_of_Equality on January 30, 2007 at 06:09 PM
Ahhh Ha! There you have it.
It's the "Jealous Azz Old School Black Panther Bruthas Swift Boat Posse"
That explains it all. That so explains it all.
I'm going to go eat dinner now. That gives you about a hour and a half to post your argument about how Barack Obama ain't a wild azz nurshery rhyming perm wearing brutha who's pissed off that they didn't get 10 percent as much attention when they ran for President as Barack's getting now, so they are jealous.
Ha Ha Ha !
When will ya'll get a clue. He ain't runnin as a Black Man. That's the difference.
;p
Maybe if we get some of the rhetoric out of the way now, we'll have better choices for the Iowa caucus.
Are we so far gone, that we feel that race and gender out weight the fact that the two most mentioned candidates out there who are Republi-lite leaning enough that they are obviously not who we are going to need to correct the course of this country after the disaster of the Bushiato?
We need a viable candidate who is untainted by any possible ties to the Beltway elite that the people will vote for them as someone whom they believe speaks for them.
I see no candidate currently in Washington who will do that for the American people.
We need a true populist, not a false "centrist".
I don't care what race or gender they are, or even if they are green with purple polka dots as long as they work for the American People to rebuild this country after 8 years of disaster.
He ain't runnin as a Black Man. That's the difference.
;p
Posted by FreedomOfSpeechForBarackObama2008 on January 30, 2007 at 06:21 PM
Nor as a white man, but as both. Because that is what he is.
(and here I thought he was going to run as a Democrat!)
Posted by Butte on January 30, 2007 at 06:32 PM
While race and gender is not important to us Democrats, it is important to the "sheeple" below the infamous Mason-Dixon line. Electabilty in a general election will be a major factor in how I vote in the primary.
Here is an encore of the Raging Grannies singing against Bush and the Iraq war. In case you missed it before here is another chance for you to see the video:
http://www.cnn.com/video/us/2007/01/27/vo.dc.anti.war.protest.cnn/content.html
Rep. Maxine Waters on Ending the Iraqi War and telling it like it is. In case you missed this one here is an encore. Watch the video:
I wonder how this went today? Anybody hear?
"James A. Baker III, the co-chairman of the Iraq Study Group, has ended weeks of resistance and today will testify before Congress on the war, avoiding a split with his fellow co-chairman, former Rep. Lee Hamilton (D-Ind.).
Sources familiar with the efforts to persuade Baker to testify said he did not want to appear to be lobbying against President Bush at the height of his push for 21,500 additional troops in Iraq.
Baker will answer senators' questions today during a hearing of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which includes three Democratic presidential hopefuls and Sen. Chuck Hagel (Neb.), the chamber's most forceful Republican critic of the war, who also is mulling a White House bid.
Electabilty in a general election will be a major factor in how I vote in the primary.
Posted by BobVADemHawk-Gore-Clark2008 on January 30, 2007 at 06:40 PM
That's what I like about you. You won't piss away your vote in a Primary. ;)
Posted by *Frosty*theMagnificent on January 30, 2007 at 07:02 PM
Link?
Posted by *Frosty*theMagnificent on January 30, 2007 at 07:08 PM
Rep. Waxman's (D-CA) big ears will come in handy when he can overhear the guys on your side of the aisle saying, "Shhh, but keep the shredders going."
Ya know, this Pope ain't gonna live forever, so we should all start makin' book on the next guy. I'm going for the Dude from Venezuela!
It COULD happen in A YEAR AND A HALF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This so-called Civil Rights poster ho is P.O.'d that Obama ran AGAINST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the "Sainted" (Annnnnd "longtime "Civil Rights"" activist , though NEITHER is true LOOK IT UP!) Bobby Rush is just tiring.
In fact, I think this may actually BE Bobby Rush pretending to be blogging from a Southern Illinois County (1 minute drill..NAME IT AGAIN).
Bobby Rush has been challenged throughout his ENTIRE Political life, because he was the "Communications Director" of the Black Panther Party and after Dr. King's assasination the BPP split into several factions. Jesse (is there a camera nearby?) Jackson co-opted the MLK non-violence crowd, Rush and his faction went with the 'By any means necessary" crowd which eventually became the "Blackstone Nation" street gang, and later the "Black P-Stone Nation" etc. until the STILL ALIVE THUGS got jobs as "Nation of Islam / Louis Farrakhan" bodyguards.
I have SEEN these cult freak intimidators up close and personal (one tried to stop me from entering the Palmer House because Louis was having a little soire)
If Bobby Rush is such a GOD and Civil Rights Icon, WHY is he challenged in almost ALL of hs runs?
He is the Representative of THE Congressional District with THE HIGHEST African American population per centage IN THE COUNTRY??
SAYING THAT "The Little "BOY" (and your point is OBVIOUS) should wait until others die is stupid, and UN-AMERICAN.
ANYBODY can run, regardless of YOUR
criteria". (Whatever THAT is.)
Posted by Esmeralda on January 30, 2007 at 07:16 PM
Link? Never. S/He's just here to "push buttons". I find him/her rather amusing for a troll. It really surprises me that a few of us will get sucked in and take him/her seriously. Frosty, you're OK with me even if you're on the wrong side of the aisle.
Posted by GregL on January 30, 2007 at 04:56 PM Hey Power of Equality! What do smoking CIGARETTES and doing coke have to do with being obsessive compulsive? For that matter what do the other three have to do with it, either?
I thought he was political consultant or a media consultant. Now I find out he's a psychologist?
Well, that's the last political advice I take from him.
There you go, race baiting. Not going to fall for it.
But I'm pretty sure I've done more in African American communities than you and ol' FOS. Or maybe you are respected as a community organizer? Anything? Rev. Jesse Jackson remember YOU?
Posted by Power_of_Equality on January 30, 2007 at 05:57 PM
Rev Jesse Jackson does not know you two, like he does me, because you two are not real hard-core civil rights activists who have done lots over the last 18 years that would bring you into contact with him at several major events.
You two have never spoken on the same stage with him to a huge crowd because you two are not that type of leader in the social justice movement, or maybe you are, and just choose to let others do the talking?
Why really organize in the streets when you can get in your comfey chairs, and call other Dems names, and post articles to the choir??? Wow, I'm really impressed with your WORKS.
Posted by Power_of_Equality on January 30, 2007 at 06:09 PM
Back.
First of all what in the hell does working in the african-american community have to do with pegging you out for what you have portrayed yourself as to folks??
Secondly, I did not and do not have to work with Jesse to be a civil rights activist. I LIVED the movement and the era! I marched forth into classrooms to integrate in the deep south no less! I watched my parents fret and pray in fear every time I went out the door when 4 little girls were killed in Sunday School! I went with my Great-Grandmother and father to mark her X on a form to register to vote at the county seat! I have sat on the "colored" side of a doctor's waiting room with my grandmother and I have watched my father come from the rear of a ice cream shop with ice cream for his family while whites got their dessert from the front counter!
Don't you EVER tell me I need to be on a stage with a big crowd to have done work with civil rights.
You need to come off the "I've paid some dues" crap because you have done nothing. If you had you surely wouldn't make the comments you do about Obama.
and who is Jesse supposed to be anyway? He's a black activist with an organization, period. I don't need to know Jesse to be an activist.
Posted by Power_of_Equality on January 30, 2007 at 05:19 PM I heard Kennedy speak. And I heard Obama speak after the SOTU last week. And Barack Hussain Obama is no Jack Kennedy.
I thought his delivery is better than Kennedy's was actually. And while Jack's speeches were pretty good, Obama writes his own.
You're no Lloyd Bentsen by the way.
Posted by *Frosty*theMagnificent on January 30, 2007 at 07:33 PM
So is 21,500 enough, too few, or too many, in your opinion? And seriously, why?
HOLD THE PHONE!!!
Don't close Guantanomo yet. We might need it for this Administrations cronies after what's been coming out of some of these hearings on corruption and other Treasonous acts!!!
I'm counting the years the Repugs lose control of either house and the Presidency for every year they keep supporting this Administration. I have there loses at 40 years so far.
The only way they can hope to recover any credibility would be to Impeach the Chimp, the Vice Chimp and anyone else found guilty of trying to subvert or skirt the Constitution or any other crimes.
"GOOD NIGHT AND GOOD LUCK".
Posted by *Frosty*theMagnificent on January 30, 2007 at 07:45 PM
Fair enough. It would appear that LTGEN Petreas has the full support of the Senate since he was confirmed unanimously.
GEN. BE TRAY US
Probably got a 3rd star with a promise of a 4th along with a million dollar book deal later for his agreeing on this slaughter of our troops to come.
I agree with a woman on cspan the other day calling in and saying if your agree with this immoral war then get youself, your children or any other friend you have thats capable of serving down to the recruiters office so some of the soldiers already serving can get some releif.
NUFF SAID!!!
Posted by Power_of_Equality on January 30, 2007 at 06:18 PM And when someone here plays into that MSM game, and tries to take us Dems down the primrose path to ObamaNation
Yes, us Dems are grateful that you're teaching us about the MSM game. I never knew it existed, myself. I'm stunned!
Posted by *Frosty*theMagnificent on January 30, 2007 at 07:54 PM
Thanks for the link. I'm sure that any fair-minded liberal would want another viewpoint.
Posted by BobVADemHawk-Gore-Clark2008 on January 30, 2007 at 07:24 PM
He usually provides a link if I ask. His sources are mainly right slanted (way right), and that starts a bickering session on it's own.
in your opinion? And seriously, why?
Posted by BobVADemHawk-Gore-Clark2008 on January 30, 2007 at 07:41 PM
I think I will leave that to the new General, I have no way of knowing what our guys are up against.
Posted by *Frosty*theMagnificent on January 30, 2007 at 07:45 PM
Steve,
He asked your opinion. The new General can't give that answer.
Posted by GOTV on January 30, 2007 at 07:56 PM
May I respectfully remind all of us that every soldier in Iraq vounteered for service; many after the invasion began in 2002. The whole debacle of the Iraq invasion begins and ends in the Oval Office.
Good night fellow Democrats. Good night Frosty. Thanks for the honest answers. You and I won't agree on much but, if we keep the conversation civil, at least we'll know where the other stands.
Bob, the confirmation was not unanimous. Nineteen did not vote to confirm.
Fair-minded liberal is redundant.
Posted by BobVADemHawk-Gore-Clark2008 on January 30, 2007 at 08:10 PM Good night fellow Democrats.
Petreas seems to be a smart guy and one that learns fast. Things have change since he was in Iraq with 82nd Airborne. He had some measure of success early on partly because he went around the Coalition Provisional Authority and Jay Garner.
let me be the first tonite to say fuck you sally:
New York, December 20, 2006—Violence in Iraq claimed the lives of 32 journalists in 2006, the deadliest year for the press in a single country that the Committee to Protect Journalists has ever recorded. In most cases, such as the killing of Atwar Bahjat, one of the best-known television reporters in the Arab world, insurgents specifically targeted journalists to be murdered, CPJ found in a new analysis.
Worldwide, CPJ found 55 journalists were killed in direct connection to their work in 2006, and it is investigating another 27 deaths to determine whether they were work-related. Detailed accounts of each case are posted on CPJ’s Web site. The figures reflect increases from 2005, when 47 journalists were killed in direct relation to their work, while 17 others died in circumstances in which the link to their profession was not clear. CPJ, founded in 1981, compiles and analyzes journalist deaths each year.
Posted by fade2bluz on January 30, 2007 at 08:17 PM Fair-minded liberal is redundant.
Good point. I missed that.
Like I said if you agree with this war get your b-t down to the recruiters office and releive some of the troops.
I know what the swearing in for service says and what it doesn't say.
It doesn't say to obey an unlawful war.
They didn't sign up for all this extended duties and over work.
The average combat days for a soldier in wwII was 45 days.
You can take any young adult and spin this thing for them but sooner or later they wake up and say I was lied to by the leaders I once respected: Generals, prsidents, law makers, whoever.
It also says you protect and Defend the Constitution of the United States not the President, not the country, etc.
Posted by gregg on January 30, 2007 at 08:19 PM
I don't know about playing this game for a millennia, Greg. Can we mix it up a little. Maybe some Sheepshead or poker?
Two fer
Lieberman whoring for the enemy, AGAIN...
::
GOP LEADERS have OFFERED A RESPONSIBLE PLAN TO HELP THE PRESIDENT'S NEW IRAQ STRATEGY SUCCEED
January 29, 2007
In Senate hearings last week Gen. David Petraeus testified that reinforcing U.S. troops in Iraq is necessary for the President's new strategy to succeed. The Democrat-controlled chamber then went on to endorse his selection as the new commander of American armed forces in Iraq without a single dissenting Democrat vote despite oft-repeated opposition to the President's new strategy. An editorial in the Washington Post captured the irony:
"On Tuesday nearly every member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee warmly endorsed Lt. Gen. David H. Petraeus, the new U.S. commander in Iraq, and a number wished him success or 'Godspeed' in his mission. Yesterday some of the same senators voted for a resolution that opposes the increase of troops for Gen. Petraeus's command -- even though the general testified that he could not accomplish his mission without the additional forces and hinted that such a resolution could encourage the enemy."::
Second GOP memo pushes Lieberman as means to attack Democrats on Iraq
A second memo sent to House Republican press staff Tuesday highlights Sen. Joseph Lieberman's (I-CT) comments disparaging Democrats' plans for Iraq troop deployment, RAW STORY has learned.
Combined with a second set of talking points pushed to Republican staff Monday by House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH), the email represents a concerted effort to use the former Democrat against his colleagues. Lieberman switched parties to become an Independent after losing the Democratic nomination in Connecticut's Senate race last year. He currently caucuses with Democrats, providing the party the necessary edge to control the chamber.
The talking points follow.
Our Options in Iraq
House Republicans Offer Two-Part Strategy TO HELP THE PRESIDENT'S NEW STRATEGY SUCCEED
January 30, 2007
When it comes to the war in Iraq, the stakes for our country and our military are high. We have two options, and when examined carefully, our choice is clear.
OPTION #1: FAILURE IN IRAQ
Failure in Iraq would bring about disastrous consequences for U.S. security, our interests, and our allies. Failure in Iraq would allow Al Qaeda to emerge stronger and establish safe havens to plot and carry out attacks against Americans and our allies. Failure in Iraq would give Iran free reign to increase its support for Hezbollah and other terrorist groups, and to spread instability throughout the Middle East. Failure in Iraq would pull neighboring countries into an escalating sectarian conflict in Iraq which could devolve into a civil war or a regional conflict. And failure in Iraq would embolden our enemies who seek to destroy Israel.
OPTION #2: SUCCESS IN IRAQ
Success in Iraq will further America's strategic interests to empower moderate Arab and Muslim governments in the Middle East and to deny terrorists a safe haven - not just in Iraq - but throughout the Middle East, striking a significant blow to the efforts of Islamic extremists in a region which serves as a critical source of recruits, funding, and support for global terrorist activities. It will mean a safer, more secure America we all want for our children and grandchildren.
When faced with the realities of these two choices, our only option is success.
The President has laid out a new strategy for success in Iraq and General David Petraeus, who during his Senate confirmation hearing discussed the negative consequences of early withdrawal from Iraq and the encouragement Congressional resolutions of disapproval would give our enemies in Iraq, has been unanimously confirmed by the U.S. Senate to help implement this strategy. But with the growing perception that progress has stalled, House Republicans have offered a two-part plan to help ensure success in Iraq.
The first part is a proposal by Rep. Sam Johnson (R-TX) - a distinguished Vietnam War veteran - to ensure the Congress does not cut off or restrict funding for America's troops who are in a combat zone.
The second part is a proposal designed to help Gen. Petraeus successfully implement the President's new strategy by putting pressure on the Iraqi government and holding it accountable for its role in achieving success.
These two efforts are in stark contrast to the Congressional "resolutions of disapproval" - non-binding criticisms of the President and the war - which, as Gen. Petraeus told the Senate last week, harm our chances for success by providing encouragement to our enemies:
SEN. LIEBERMAN: But I want to ask you, what effect would Senate passage of a resolution of disapproval of this new way ahead that you embrace -- what effect would it have on our enemies in Iraq?
GEN. PETRAEUS: Sir, as I stated in the opening statement, this is a test of wills, at the end of the day. And in that regard, speaking purely as a military commander, if confirmed -- albeit one who, frankly, does understand enormously and treasures the value of free and open debate, free speech, who has put himself in harm's way to protect those great features of our democracy -- nonetheless, having said that, a commander in such an endeavor would obviously like the enemy to feel that there's no hope.
SEN. LIEBERMAN: -- a Senate-passed resolution of disapproval for this new strategy in Iraq would give the enemy some encouragement, some feeling that -- well, some clear expression that the American people were divided.
GEN. PETRAEUS: That's correct, sir.
The House Republican proposals explicitly support our troops and the President's new strategy for success in Iraq. What is the Democrats' plan for success in Iraq?
Victory in Iraq is critical to America's strategic interests. The President's new strategy deserves a chance to succeed and it should receive fair and full consideration by this Congress.
Republican Leader Press Office Rep. John Boehner (R-OH) H-204, The Capitol (202) 225-4000 http://republicanleader.house.gov/
Good evenin ... what's on my mind?
Impeach Da Chimp now and Darth Cheney too.
ooh!
dpd- enjoyed the photo of mr wolfie- have to say i've left the house on more than one occasion with socks like that, but you'd think that if you're going to a mosque or some other situation where you should know that you are going to have to remove your shoes, that you would have enough sense not to look like a complete slob- 'course, it happened once when i went to a dinner that a friend from work was having at his new home- i should have realized, given that they are from india, that i was going to feel obliged to remove the shoes, but just didn't think about it when leaving for work that day and putting on the socks with the holes in them
he's still a sad sack, all in all, not unlike some of the other elitist intellectual snobs that these repugs surround themselves with (mr greenspan comes to mind)
Pam,
WARNING...previous post might induce vomiting...i've got that taste again in the back of my throat.
where's the vodka?
A second memo sent to House Republican press staff Tuesday highlights Sen. Joseph Lieberman's (I-CT) comments disparaging Democrats' plans for Iraq troop deployment, RAW STORY has learned.
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So, do we need any further prove that he deserves to be caled Joe Weaselman? Is there any possibility of a recall election in CT for this creep?
the socks were a match, which is better than i do some days...but both toes?
kinda strangely cheap, i'd say, for a world leader to leave home like that....
"Frosty" nutjobs
by algebrateacher
Sat Jan 13, 2007 at 02:24:58 PM PST
Is there something about the name "Frosty" that makes someone unhinged? Frosty Hardison is an activist in Federal Way, WA, trying to ban use of Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth" in the classroom. He's the one who has said that "condoms don't belong in the classroom and neither does Al Gore." His wife, an unsuccessful candidate for the school board, said she thinks the film is anti-America. Then there is Frosty Wooldridge, an anti-immigration activist whose first bugaboo (first of many; the fellow is anti-immigration the way Representative Goode, R-VA, is) is the 1965 Act of Congress legalizing the presence of Cuban refugees from Fidel.
How would you stop global warming?
by Barbara Boxer
Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 12:53:41 PM PST
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I just finished up our first hearing on global warming as the new Democratic Chair of the EPW Committee. Instead of a Chair who says global warming is a hoax, I said today that global warming is the challenge of our generation, and we must step up and meet it.
To that end, I hope you will help me move forward a bill that will be a meaningful start. We have lost so much time, so we must act quickly.
Many people have already offered suggestions to meet the challenge of global warming, and many other proposals are about to be put on the table. But I'd like to hear your ideas on the best way to move forward as well. What ideas do you think we should pursue? Let me know so that I can share your comments with my colleagues in the Senate at our next hearing.
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dors we can always go to double decking it.
and i will bring my monopoly game.
Getting Out of Iraq: What Congress Can Do
by mcjoan
Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 01:15:22 PM PST
In today's Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Congress's Constitutional power to end the Iraq War, Senator Russ Feingold announced:
Tomorrow, I will introduce legislation that will prohibit the use of funds to continue the deployment of U.S. forces in Iraq six months after enactment. By prohibiting funds after a specific deadline, Congress can force the President to bring our forces out of Iraq and out of harm’s way.
This legislation will allow the President adequate time to redeploy our troops safely from Iraq, and it will make specific exceptions for a limited number of U.S. troops who must remain in Iraq to conduct targeted counter-terrorism and training missions and protect U.S. personnel. It will not hurt our troops in any way – they will continue receiving their equipment, training and salaries. It will simply prevent the President from continuing to deploy them to Iraq. By passing this bill, we can finally focus on repairing our military and countering the full range of threats that we face around the world.
Senator Feingold is facing the reality that the American people and Congress must deal with:
Anti-War Marches Draw Hundreds of Thousands
By Aaron Glantz
Inter Press Service
Sunday 28 January 2007
Washington - Peace activists from across the United States gathered in Washington Saturday for what they said was the largest demonstration to date against the Iraq war.
"It's time for a new day," the Reverend Jesse Jackson told what organisers estimated as a crowd of 500,000 demonstrators gathered outside the halls of Congress on the National Mall.
"We do not need more troops in Iraq, we need more money at home," Jackson said. "We need a vision of hope over fear, of preparing smart children not smart bombs. A vision realising that right makes might; might does not make right."
The demonstration, which was pulled together by an umbrella group called United for Peace and Justice, also featured speeches by a half dozen antiwar Congresspeople.
Among them was a founder of Congress' "Out of Iraq Caucus," Maxine Waters, a California Democrat, who pledged not to vote "one dime for this war."
Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson also spoke, as did actors Jane Fonda and Sean Penn, members of the National Organisation for Women and other feminist groups, members of the United States military and veterans groups opposed to the war, and representatives of organised labour.
"The American people spoke loudly in the November election, removing from office many of those who shared President Bush's wrong-headed thinking," Fred Mason, head of the Maryland chapter of the AFL-CIO, a major umbrella trade union, told the crowd. "The new Congress has a responsibility to the American people to end military involvement in Iraq and bring our troops home now."
Feingold Ups the Ante on Iraq Funding
By Roger Simon
The Politico
Tuesday 30 January 2007
Wisconsin Democrat's bill would cut off funding after six months.
Senate Democrats oppose the war in Iraq, they just don't plan on stopping it.
They have discovered that standing up to the president is not quite as easy as vilifying him.
Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., has decided, however, to challenge what he calls the "timidity" of Democratic leaders. He is going to introduce legislation cutting off funding for the Iraq war and he may do it, he told me, as early as this week.
I reached him by telephone Monday in Fond du Lac, Wis., where he was conducting one of his "Listening Sessions" with voters during a snowstorm.
I asked him whether Democratic voters were further to the left than their elected leaders, especially their presidential candidates, when it came to the war.
"That is not only true of Democrats," Feingold said, "it is true of the public as a whole. The mainstream view of the American people is to get out of Iraq."
first sally tries to act nice to win some friends to fill up his lonely existence, then when that doesn't work he tries to bum everyone out. no wonder he was always a wall flower at the high school dances.
Fleischer: Libby Discussed CIA Officer at Lunch
NBC News
Monday 29 January 2007
Defense won't know ex-White House spokesman immunity details.
Washington - Former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer testified Monday that then-colleague I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby told him over lunch that the wife of a prominent war critic worked at the CIA.
Fleischer said the conversation happened on Monday, July 7, 2003, the day after former Ambassador Joseph Wilson's op-ed article appeared in the New York Times, and he was a guest on "Meet the Press," accusing the administration of "twisting" intelligence on Iraq's weapons programs. Libby - according to prosecutors - told Fleischer at lunch at the White House that the information that Wilson's wife worked at the CIA was "hush-hush."
That is the same day that the White House issued a statement saying that the "16 words" in the State of the Union address about Iraq seeking nuclear materials from Africa, should not have been included in the speech.
Fleischer was about to go overseas with the president and a number of other officials on an official delegation to various African countries. Fleischer would be traveling with the White House press corps on the trip.
June 7, 2003, was days before Libby told investigators he was surprised to learn about the CIA operative from a reporter. That discrepancy is at the heart of Libby's perjury and obstruction trial.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/012907R.shtml
So, the rats are ratting each other out. Good!
joe lieberman threw himself under the bus when he lost the democratic primary for senate, and then, instead of admitting that his own party was not interested in reelecting him to the senate, he chose to be an arrogant cuss and run against his own party's chosen candidate- there is nothing honorable in that- his win was largely due to the fact that the other party poured cash into his campaign (along with the large sums of corporate monies he already had) and many republicans wound up voting for him- he's a disgrace to the democratic party
Posted by rjsnj on January 30, 2007 at 08:37 PM
Like I said keep Guantanomo open for the Repugs Cronies!
It seems that bush's cronies on the Iraq Study Committee suggested that bush draft federal employees to take the place of GI's and civilians in Iraq. They would be sent there by directed reassignment. If they do not go they would be fired.
I know that starting with ashole raygun the repigs have detested government employees of any kind.
This idiotic suggestion sounds like something from the bush administration.
bush cronies suggest drafting federal employees
Schneider, trump? Sheepshead--do you play with girls? This would be in purgatory?
Keith Olberman will have a special fact check of the Chimp Wimps so called s otu. Should be int.
By the way, a speech is given by some one who can speak the language first, according to Dictionary
Like I said keep Guantanomo open for the Repugs Cronies!
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Yeah, I hear Drug Limbaugh thinks it's a swell place. Give Drug Head Limbaugh an all expenses paid trip to Gitmo (return ticket highly optional).
in the interest of bringing voices out for people to read, here is the latest "people's voices" from the cincienquirer- although i'm not sure what he's advocating, this retired marine has some interesting things to say- he asks why, if the war was unjust and illegal, there isn't someone in congress introducing a bill to stop the funding- unfortunately, thanks to our pathetic media outlets, he probably is not aware that there are bills pending that would do just that- anyway, i was glad to see that he seems to think that jim webb is someone worth emulating, and i would not disagree with that (now, huckabee, on the other hand- don't get me started)
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070130/EDIT02/701300337/1090
Hello, all,
Those talking points try to keep it simple, but it's not. And they are way in over their heads, but still trying to keep the killing and confusion going for a long, long time.
Like some scary thing I say a lot, though I don't remember where it came from: You can't win. You can't lose. You can't even quit the game.
Quagmire
joe lieberman threw himself under the bus
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Oh how I wish he did that! There's always hope, lots of buses around.
Lieberman is a grade A weasel.
you are an asshole sally. you were an asshole as a child, as a teenager and now as a misanthropic adult... nobody likes you and nobody ever did.
Service Members Rally Against the War in Iraq
By William H. McMichael
The Navy Times
Monday 15 January 2007
A small group of out-of-uniform active-duty service members, supported by veterans and academics, gathered inside a Norfolk, Va., church on Martin Luther King Jr. Day to hold a rally calling for the immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq.
Speakers invoked King's message of nonviolent resistance, along with his eventual opposition to the Vietnam War, as an example worth following during a war many at the rally said echoes that controversial conflict of an earlier generation - and is a war that should end now.
"It is time for U.S. troops to come home," said Marine Corps Sgt. Liam Madden, speaking to a crowd of about 80 - not including reporters - gathered in the sanctuary of the Unitarian-Universalist Church in downtown Norfolk. He said active-duty troops have the right to speak out, and he said his opposition to the war is not driven by politics.
"It's not political when people heed the call of their conscience," said Madden, 22, who is stationed at Quantico Marine Corps Base and who served in Iraq with Okinawa's 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit as a communications specialist. "Not one more of my brothers should die for a lie. This is my generation's call to conscience." The remarks drew cheers and a standing ovation.
Hi Tom-- Chuck Hagel
What would it take to secure Baghdad?
It's not ours to secure. We have never understood that! We have framed this in a way that never made sense: “Win or lose in Iraq.” Wait a minute! There is no win or loss for us. The Iraqis will determine how this turns out. We can help them with our blood and our treasure and our standing, but in the end they have to deal with the sectarian problems. That is what's consuming that country. It's not Al Qaeda. It's not the terrorists. That's not the main problem over there. It's a civil war!
evening rjsnj,
They need to send hannity and parschall to GITMO also.
All hannity can bitch about between badmouthing "liberals" is the Fairness Doctrine.
All parschall can bitch about is abortion, family values and Jane Fonda. She calls the people involved in the peace march anarchists and made ranted about all of them today including Jane.
They both complain about us badmouthing the "commander in thief". They have been badmouthing all democrats for years. hannity would give raygun a bj if he was still alive and parschall would give chimp a bj if he managed to ban abortion.
These people are all sickos and I am tired of their whining.
fade, well ya know its a cold or flu or whatever. take a tylenol feel better, it wears off the fever goes up you feel lousy, take a tylenol feel better...its no big deal. there are people who post here with real medical problems and my heart goes out to them.
a friend of ours got us a subscription to harper's for christmas- the article by chalmers johnson in the latest issue is very good- "republic or empire:a national intelligence estimate on the united states" is an excellent piece- mahablog has some commentary on it- harper's apparently doesn't publish stuff on line for a while:
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070130/EDIT02/701300337/1090
sorry- looks like i posted the enquirer article again and it took two more tries to get it right- i think this is it:
Posted by fade2bluz on January 30, 2007 at 08:46 PM Schneider, trump? Sheepshead--do you play with girls? This would be in purgatory?
It wouldn't be purgatory if we could play with girls. But Greg's got an uncle there who knows certain people who can sneak you into our section.
FT REPORT - BUSINESS EDUCATION: Global warming has become a hot topic
By Rebecca Knight in Boston, Financial Times
Published: Jan 29, 2007
Business schools are going green.
Along with customary classes on subjects such as finance, accounting, and marketing, today's MBA students are enrolling on courses for environmental policy and stewardship. Indeed, more than half - 54 per cent - of business schools require a course in environmental sustainability or corporate social responsibility, up from 34 per cent in 2001, according to a biennial survey of 91 US business schools by the World Resources Institute and the Aspen Institute, published in October 2005.
Within the realm of environmental studies, perhaps the topic garnering the most attention is global warming. Business schools in the US and around the world are coming up with new ways to integrate global warming into established courses, as well as instituting new classes.
At MIT's Sloan School of Business, climate change has gone from being included in soft electives on the periphery of the curriculum to the centre of an innovative course on environmental sustainability.
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Yeah, business schools don't mess around when the financial future is threatened.
Very Positive. What?
actually read down through the mahablog commentary on chalmers johnson and thought this update from digby was worth posting- this is the same stuff that morris berman covers in his book "dark ages america: the final phase of empire"- it's probably not too far away from what kevin phillips talks about in his book on the american theocracy (i've not read it, but i've read some commentary and had some discussions with friends and family who have read it)- the overall picture is of a government that is out of control without the proper leadership to begin to understand the problems let alone care enough to do something about them:
The Pentagon is still struggling to get a handle on the unprecedented number of contractors now helping run the nation’s wars, losing millions of dollars because it is unable to monitor industry workers stationed in far-flung locations, according to a congressional report.
The investigation by the Government Accountability Office, which released the report Tuesday, found that the Defense Department’s inability to manage contractors effectively has hurt military operations and unit morale and cost the Pentagon money.
“With limited visibility over contractors, military commanders and other senior leaders cannot develop a complete picture of the extent to which they rely on contractors as an asset to support their operations,” said the GAO, the investigative arm of Congress.
fade, my uncle will let you hang with the pinochle and bocce crowd if you bring some cannoli and wear a vintage three piece suit from a thrift shop and brown wingtips.
put a sliver of lemon peel in that espresso please
later y'all...malloy is on and he's already screaming...it's gonna be a good night.
what is sad, is that i just read that piece that digby posted, and recognized the very same thing that we are dealing with in the social services sector (both with my job working with the disabled and in dealing with the bigger picture in trying to be an advocate for my brother)- the picture is no different here in this state when it comes to the sad stories of social services being privatized to companies that care nothing about the people that they serve and everything about the almight dollar- it is the very same thing- and there is no oversight, no accountability and the cronyism is running rampant- that is what our corporate-liberal/libertarian cronies have brought us in this country- no accountability, no quality and failed social policies from top to bottom
Posted by fade2bluz on January 30, 2007 at 09:00 PM
It's not ours to secure. We have never understood that! We have framed this in a way that never made sense: “Win or lose in Iraq.” Wait a minute! There is no win or loss for us. The Iraqis will determine how this turns out. We can help them with our blood and our treasure and our standing, but in the end they have to deal with the sectarian problems.
Good for Hagel. Maybe he'll be able to remind the president why we liberated the Iraqis in the first place and why he had such faith in them and why our presence there only gets more of them killed.
checked out tom delay's blog. half the comments are from left wingers. either tom is promoting free speech or he has hired a staff that is too stupid to understand what people are writing.
gregg- a lovely, mouthwatering photo of canoli
pinochle- i've heard people talk about that of late- we went through a phase in high school (my good friends in the neighborhood) of playing pinochle- 'course we weren't gambling when we played it, but i remember enjoying it
I think I will leave that to the new General, I have no way of knowing what our guys are up against.
Posted by *Frosty*theMagnificent on January 30, 2007 at 07:45 PM
bwhahahahaha, OMG I think I split a gut on this one!
Just came in to log off and spotted this.
The Big mouth know-it-all, full of predictions and opinions "doesn't know what's going on with our guys"? This after telling us all the good they are doing, How victory is being won, how if we pull them out of this civil war the enemy will think we are cowards, etc??? But he doesn't know what our guys are going through?????????
face it loser, you are getting more and more senile every single day!
night, night fine dems...........
Just who is the "enemy" exactly? And those described as the enemy, why don't we get to hear what they say directly? Why do we let known liars frame who the enemy is, what he is saying, and his motivations?
Main stream media is complicit in causing American and Iraqi deaths by pushing propaganda. Congress, please pull the plug, or fix this treasonable activity.
for obama fans, it appears that senator obama has offered his own plan to stop this ill-begotten war- i hear drums beating and they are beating for the end of the cheney/chumpy regime- i like the beat of these drums because they just don't seem to ever stop beating- they are a beautiful sound
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Sen._Obama_offers_plan_to_stop_0130.html
jefro, i think of it as the working man's bridge. my uncles were always playing it, they had been since sitting on the stoop in harlem during the depression when they were kids.... and wouldn't let me and my cousins in on it. i went away to college and learned to play and when i was home for a holiday i talked my way into the game. i played one card and my uncle said ok "you make two tricks and i make the rest" and laid down his cards...i never asked to play again.
“With limited visibility over contractors, military commanders and other senior leaders cannot develop a complete picture of the extent to which they rely on contractors as an asset to support their operations,” said the GAO, the investigative arm of Congress.
Posted by queencityjefro on January 30, 2007 at 09:12 PM
Hey jef, this is the genius of Rumsfeld and Cheney: make the US military incapable of winning.
Greed couldn't be better.
Jackson co-opted the MLK non-violence crowd, Rush and his faction went with the 'By any means necessary" crowd which eventually became the "Blackstone Nation" street gang, and later the "Black P-Stone Nation" etc. Posted by DPD
When I lived in "Harvey IL" in the mid sixties, they were called "The Blackstone Rangers". Did they change their name later on?
The Blackstone Rangers in the 1960s were Chicago's most famous gang. Started by a dozen 12-15 year old kids from Blackstone Avenue in Woodlawn
tom- clearly this administration and our military have very little idea who the enemy is- they originally claimed that the "insurgent" group that they attacked near najaf was a sunni insurgent group- of course, now we know that they were actually a splinter apocolyptic shiite group- what is more, even as of today, the headline in our paper here claimed that the iraqi "army" had taken care of this group, when in fact, it would seem that the iraqi "army" still was not able to do anything about this sectarian group- it took our copters and planes dropping bombs on them to take care of the situation- and what is worse, in dropping all of these bombs, our military seems to have killed scores of women and children- alas, something that always happens when a heartless military tries to keep its own out of harms way by indiscriminately dropping bombs on the enemy- of course, how many enemies of our troops have we made in the process? only time will tell
Jackson co-opted the MLK non-violence crowd, Rush and his faction went with the 'By any means necessary" crowd which eventually became the "Blackstone Nation" street gang, and later the "Black P-Stone Nation" etc. Posted by DPD
When I lived in "Harvey IL" in the mid sixties, they were called "The Blackstone Rangers". Did they change their name later on?
The Blackstone Rangers in the 1960s were Chicago's most famous gang. Started by a dozen 12-15 year old kids from Blackstone Avenue in Woodlawn
“With limited visibility over contractors, military commanders and other senior leaders cannot develop a complete picture of the extent to which they rely on contractors as an asset to support their operations,” said the GAO, the investigative arm of Congress.
Posted by queencityjefro on January 30, 2007 at
And also a Mercinary Army paid by our tax Dollars.
I say let the Muslims have em.
this whole thing about trusting the generals in charge needs to be aired out better in our media-
where have you been moron? the generals who dare to speak against the prearranged moronic strategy of these neocons are quickly disposed of- does the name shinseki ring a bell? and he is only the tip of the iceberg- check out general karpinski's book and her subsequent testimony in a trial that is going on as we speak in germany against the war criminals of this administration- this administration has treated our military with something worse than disdain- they have destroyed their careers, disrespected the best of their leaders, ignored the pleadings of their grunts who were sent into battle without the proper equipment and saved the worst for those whose lives have been destroyed through physical and mental disabilities by totally gutting our va system with their tax breaks for the top 1% of our society who could give a shit if our military vets ever see the light of day
I have no way of knowing what our guys are up against. Posted by *Frosty*theMoron
We've been telling you you don't know what's going on for three years now. So NOW you finally admit it?
that is how a failed vision of empire treats its citizens and its military- and there are always those in said failed military state, albeit aided and abetted by corporate-fed state media, that believe what their failed leaders tell them about their actions around the globe- you, frosty, happen to be one of them
US/companies say, hey, that's our property:
Shell Iran plan will come under US scrutiny
By Ed Crooks in London
The US authorities will “take a look at” a controversial agreement signed over the weekend by Royal Dutch Shell that could ultimately lead to a multi-billion dollar investment in Iran, a US State Department official said.
Shell and its partner Repsol of Spain have signed a service agreement, as reported in the Financial Times last week, with the Iranian government to continue work on developing blocks 13 and 14 of the giant South Pars gas field, in spite of mounting international pressure over the country’s nuclear programme
US legislation permits President George W. Bush to take action against non-US companies investing in Iran’s energy sector. However, because of concerns over an extra-territorial trade dispute and the risk of further alienating allies, no foreign companies have been penalised to date under the Iran Libya Sanctions Act and the subsequent Iran Freedom Support Act.
www.ft.com/cms/s/44828a72-aff0-11db-94ab-0000779e2340.html
Posted by *Frosty*theMagnificent on January 30, 2007 at 09:24 PM Fairness doctrine? ... Rush would continue with his 3 hour show and ... Then you would get a 3 hour show of liberal
Here's the Fairness Doctrine, Frosty and a mention of some of the corollary rules.
If you present your argument in the context of the acutal doctrine your posts will read better (if you care about such things).
Republicans talk out both sides of their ass. If Democrats are running a war, it's bad and must end. If Republicans are running a war, it's good and must go on forever. Read what double talking McCain has to say, then and now.
When Clinton was the President, the Republicans had a very different take on presidential powers than they do now.
Greenwald: John McCain's stirring pro-withdrawal Senate speech about why it was urgent that the Senate force Clinton to leave Somalia is particularly interesting in light of all of his completely contrary claims today about Iraq:
We suffered a terrible tragedy in Beirut, Mr. President; 240 young marines lost their lives, but we got out. Now is the time for us to get out of Somalia as rapidly and as promptly and as safely as possible.
I, along with many others, will have an amendment that says exactly that. It does not give any date certain. It does not say anything about any other missions that the United States may need or feels it needs to carry out. It will say that we should get out as rapidly and orderly as possible.
Crooks and Liars
General Be Tray Us:
Trust? I think not.
Didn't we lose 3000 a week in our civil war.
A civil war may be part of the process in becoming a Democracy. I say get the Hell out of there and let em have at it!!!
gotta head out for now- maybe chalmers johnson's article will make some of the more hard-headed ditto-heads rethink their position with regard to the failed statism of the bush regime- and if not, then only time will tell- one thing is for certain, you'll never get an honest answer out of pat buchanon unless you happen to read his occasional postings at antiwar.com, in which case you'll come to understand how hypocritical figures like pat are on the right flank in this country with their sycophantic support for this failed regime
Because no one here is interested in victory. You are interested in losing the war Posted by *Frosty*theMoron
That's a effing lie, you lying bastard. We're mad because Bush, Cheney, Rummy, and you freaks that follow them, are to stupid to win this war. Just because you morons can't win, don't go trying to say it's OUR fault you're a bunch of dumbasses who don't know how to win.
Posted by *Frosty*theMagnificent on January 30, 2007 at 09:58 PM You are interested in losing the war and more American soldiers dying because that makes George Bush look bad.
Well, pulling soldiers out would keep them from dying which would make the president look good. He's done so much to help elect Democrats, we should probably help him in some way.
As to "losing the war", the Iraqis are free. We'll secure their borders. They can build whatever sort of nation they care to.
That's why they call it liberty.
Posted by *Frosty*theMagnificent on January 30, 2007 at 10:09 PM if Rush says that Henry Waxman is a horses ass, then Rush has to offer Waxman a chance to come on and explain why he is not a horses ass.
Sounds good so far.
But the stations also have to offer a programming balance i.e. 3 hours of blessed conservative talk must be balanced by 3 hours of liberal drivel.
Nope.
Good evening, everyone.
Electabilty in a general election will be a major factor in how I vote in the primary.
Posted by BobVADemHawk-Gore-Clark2008 on January 30, 2007 at 06:40 PM
Hi, Bob.
I thought that is what we all were doing with Kerry in 2004. In retrospect, if we had stuck with Dean we would have been a lot better off.
I'm not sure what electability is anymore. I hope it isn't important now that the Republicans have lost so much credibility. I get the feeling anyone you shows a little passion and intelligence would do.
Ahhh Ha! There you have it.
It's the "Jealous Azz Old School Black Panther Bruthas..."
That explains it all. That so explains it all.
I'm going to go eat dinner now. That gives you about a hour and a half to post your argument about how Barack Obama ain't a wild azz nurshery rhyming perm wearing brutha who's pissed off
Ha Ha Ha !
Posted by FreedomOfSpeechForBarackObama2008 on January 30, 2007 at 06:21 PM
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It's a pun. Get it: a-bom-in-a-tion
Definition: a vile, shameful, or detestable action, condition, habit
That's some description of men. What happened to "we stand by our men." I suppose Rep. Rush is too old for ya?
We go from the black panthers to Obama-says-don't-say-that-about-my-good-ol-GOP-buddy. LOL.
It's "a new kind of politics." Show the GOP whites with power that you'll turn on your own party to get a foot up on them.
That goes back to the integrity issue. No wonder more African-Americans like Hillary over Obama.
Oh, and I don't know... some would say doing cocaine is a pretty "wild azz" partyin guy. Ha ha ha right back to ya ya ya.
you want Bush to look bad. Posted by *Frosty*theMoron
Bush "looks bad" without our help. We got nothing to do with it. Quit whining that it's "all our fault" your guy is a loser, crybaby.
Posted by *Frosty*theMagnificent on January 30, 2007 at 10:17 PM
I think much of America wouldn't "hate" or disapprove of Bush if those 3,000 troops hadn't died and we didn't hear those lies. Don't you think? His numbers are Nixonian. He just needs to get rid of Cheney and make Laura his VP.
You remember how Republicans hated Bill for his his little personal lie to keep his private life secret?
Well, nobody died when Clinton lied.
Posted by SandyH on January 30, 2007 at 10:17 PM I get the feeling anyone who shows a little passion and intelligence would do.
Sandy, I've read enough of your posts to know that if you listened to a candidate and found him or her to be genuine, honest, abd offering real solutions to the needs of the country,
they'd be electable.
Yor know, wing-nuts like Ann Coulter and crew say Iraq is "just like Los Angeles". Well then let 'em be "just like Los Angeles" then. I happen to think Los Angeles is pretty damn nice place, thank you very much.
"The president's plan ought to be given a chance," Baker told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. "Just give it a chance."
Posted by *Frosty*theMagnificent on January 30, 2007 at 07:33 PM
All he was saying is, "Give the Chimp a chance to fall on his face one last time. Then kick his ass and string up Cheney."
Baker probably figures that Bush didn't listen to us and we were his last best chance of getting out of this thing gracefully. What a dope. But I like his father and want to help the old man with his problem child....a 60-year-old and he's still a problem child. Go figure.
You all hated Bush long before the war started.
Bush's numbers may be Nixonian but they are not Trumanian yet.
Posted by *Frosty*the'Magnificently wrong' on January 30, 2007 at 10:32 PM
And your point? Most of America hated Bush on 9/10/01. They gave him a brief chance to unite the country - no, the world - and when he screwed that up like everything else his silver spooned fingers touched, he has rightly reaped what he has sown in terms of public sentiment. It ain't just Democrats, dude. Did you catch Arlen Specter chew Bush a new one today? it was a beautiful thing to behold.
Baaa, baa, white sheep, have you any individuality? no sir, no sir, I don't believe in reality. None for the country, none for the "allies", and none for the little boy shot down amidst the lies.
Posted by *Frosty*theMagnificent on January 30, 2007 at 10:28 PM the fairness doctrine would change nothing because Waxman is not going to come on Rush's show and explain why he is not a horses ass.
That's Waxman's call. At least when a multi- millionaire uses public airways to mount a character attack, the accused is given a chance a respond.
Posted by *Frosty*theMagnificent on January 30, 2007 at 10:28 PM the fairness doctrine would change nothing because Waxman is not going to come on Rush's show and explain why he is not a horses ass.
That's Waxman's call. At least when a multi- millionaire uses public airways to mount a character attack, the accused is given a chance a respond.
Posted by dorsano on January 30, 2007 at 10:42 PM
Another way of looking at this - Rush hasn't agreed to go on Daily Show nor Colbert Report to explain why he is not a horses ass, either. hmmmmm....
nope, people love him or hate him - most hate him. The uniter is the biggest divider ever. And if you look at our fine international community, it's all just variations of hatred. And for that, I hate him.
Posted by MIKaren on January 30, 2007 at 10:47 PM Another way of looking at this - Rush hasn't agreed to go on Daily Show nor Colbert Report to explain why he is not a horses ass, either. hmmmmm....
Has Stewart called him a horses ass? I think Rush squawks under Stewart's radar.
Posted by *Frosty*theMagnificent on January 30, 2007 at 10:36 PM A "problem child" who became President of the United States. That is one hell of a problem child.
Yep. We agree on that.
whatever. Anyway, everytime I pop by you're here, so I guess you're the resident troll that the moderators have let slide in for general amusement and to help unite us against your idiotic point of view, or you're just so unpopular among your kind that coming here is more comfortable. Just thinking that it must start to really sting every time our point of view is proven: the economy, the Iraq invasion, climate change. I've heard they're starting up a NCA program here in Michigan - NeoCons Anonymous. heh heh.
Europeans fear US attack on Iran as nuclear row intensifies. America builds up its naval forces in the Gulf.
By: Ian Traynor in Brussels and Jonathan Steele
Dorsano - interestingly, Rush is losing his audience by the droves every month, whereas Stewart and Colbert are just increasing their audience. You think the former Rushies have gone to Comedy Central to try to find their souls? Isn't it interesting that a couple of comedy shows are the ones telling the truth, whereas our own friggin Executive Branch is one huge comedy of errors spouting unbelievable horse-sh*t!
Lots of Breaking News on Impeachment
Electing a Congress to Impeach Bush and Cheney
You should leave this place more often, then. I work with a bunch of conservative bean counters and they all despise this emperor who wears no clothes.
Posted by MIKaren on January 30, 2007 at 11:01 PM
Karen-baBaren-FoFaren-MaRarin-Karen. I have to leave you and hit the sack. It's nice to read your posts again.
Take care.
Posted by dorsano on January 30, 2007 at 10:29 PM
Hi, Tony.
I truly don't see any of our current crop as being losers. Even Kerry could beat their best.
But a lot of things can change in two years. We have a long way to go and Cheney is growing desperate. They pinned all their hopes on that pretty boy bigot Allen. Now that he's out, there doesn't seem to be any Republican alternative who fits the bill right now.
They need another good ole boy with no brains to keep the neocon war wagons rolling in Iraq right into Iran. There must be plenty of them in their lower ranks who could be groomed in time for the coming campaign.
Or maybe they should just run Limbaugh. He has a drug problem, a smirk, and is stupid enough to be led around by a leash on his nose.
DKA, what I love, love, LOVE, is that I no longer have to go small audience liberal blogs and such to find such talk - it's out there on CNN, MSNBC, etc, talking about it almost every day. LOVE IT
And why do you think Harriet Miers stepped down? hmmmmm
Posted by *Frosty*theMagnificent on January 30, 2007 at 11:01 PM
Your car insurance premiums must be huge.
Posted by MIKaren on January 30, 2007 at 11:04 PM Isn't it interesting that a couple of comedy shows are the ones telling the truth, whereas our own friggin Executive Branch is one huge comedy of errors spouting unbelievable horse-sh*t!
When we elect people who think government can't do much good, it is sort of silly to expect them to do much good when they govern.
And why do you think Harriet Miers stepped down? hmmmmm
Posted by MIKaren on January 30, 2007 at 11:10 PM
Good question. Maybe she is the link between Cheney and Rove on the Plame outting?
I truly don't see any of our current crop as being losers. Even Kerry could beat their best. - Sandy
Sandy, I find it hilarious that the gaggle of most-known conservatives is having a hard time picking a true conservative among the neo-con riff-raff left in government. It's particularly hilarious that these people actually find the Democrats to be the best choice among actual fiscal conservatives. It's quite possible we will have a united front between fiscal conservatives and Democrats in '08. AND it's hilarious that fiscal conservatism actually complements universal healthcare and alternate energy plans. I guess Bush was good for one thing - bringing down the whole facade of public policy as "tax and spend". Lovin' it.
Or maybe they should just run Limbaugh. He has a drug problem, a smirk, and is stupid enough to be led around by a leash on his nose.
Posted by SandyH on January 30, 2007 at 11:09 PM
LMAO!! very good!
When we elect people who think government can't do much good, it is sort of silly to expect them to do much good when they govern.
Posted by dorsano on January 30, 2007 at 11:12 PM
TOUCHE! Of course, we didn't elect him...
President Newt? OMFG, that's more hilarious than anything I've heard in a while. It will only go downhill from here, so adieu, and beware of that salmonella poisoning. LMFAO!!!
Posted by GOTV on January 30, 2007 at 07:56 PM
I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but I think most people who voted for Bush/Cheney are more concerned about the financial cost of this war and the lost prestige than they are about the troops.
You'd think that most of the troops and their families would have figured that out by now. Maybe they have. The story we are getting out of Iraq about the conditions on the ground and the troops' morale still is heavily filtered through corporate media.
Posted by *Frosty*theMagnificent on January 30, 2007 at 11:17 PM
Maybe Nixon will still come back....from the dead and run as George Allen's running mate.
All the girls say Newt is "easy." He has a rep that wouldn't play well with women voters. Go ahead and run him with a dead Nixon.
I'm too tired and old for this tonight.
Nice seeing you, Karen. Good night.
well, i read through the posts since i left and i've concluded that this blog needs some help from its supposed "moderators"-
to the person above who mentioned this blog's "resident troll"- if this blog which is supposedly run by the dnc cared about its content, you are right that they would make sure that they payed someone to sit by their computer hour after hour to be sure that inane commentary designed only to inflame the public with moronic remarks (parroting the moronic remarks of the well-heeled elitist clap-trap like foxnews and rushbimbo) was taken down from this site- one has to conclude that the dnc does not care about the internet or the posters that come to their blog or they would pay more attention to this site- i suspect that if they did pay more attention to it, like so many other sites do (some of which are policed by one or just a few individuals who care about what they are doing enough to work their butts off to make their sites worthwhile), then this website would attract (and more importantly, keep) more people
as it is, they obviously don't care (at least some sites such as kos and nationblog have the decency to offer their posters the option to block out unwanted posters- i suspect that this works quite well under most circumstances)
yes, perhaps newt will run and win the presidency- it would be altogether fitting after the last two presidents that we should have one who tops them both for sheer personal immorality- to leave not one, but two wives, sick with terminal illnesses just tops anything that either bill or george could ever have aspired to have done in their lifetimes- and both have plenty of immorality to go around- yes, you are right, we do deserve the likes of the ol' southern bastard newt- it would serve us right
71% of americans wish the bush administration would end today. i don't know if that qualifies as hate but it sure ain't luv...
europe lived thru two world wars, they are not redstate chickenshits like sally who dream of wars that only kill faceless others they know horror up close...something the right wingnuts don't...
if only gingrinch would run....we could bury the right forever and ever....but i thought it was going to be tom delay?? is tom gonna be the vp candidate? i will contribute a few bucks to get that ticket rolling.
the whole world is getting on the environmental train, sally and the rest of the creationists will be left in the station arguing if the world was created in seven days or seven nights....
if the republicans ignore climate change they are toast in 08 and sally knows it.
the pig nixon did make a comeback and then went up in flames...allen won't get the chance for a repeat...with luck he will get a job as a blocking dummy for the redskins...
rush cost the republicans the senate...
gregg- our "resident troll" doesn't know anything nor does he care to "know" anything- he comes here to spout vitriolic garbage, most of which he has gathered listening to news outlets and radio buttheads that don't care what kind of mindless claptrap they are putting out as long as it stirs up our ignorant citizens, misdirects them from what they should be paying attention to and makes the corporations happy- if these people did care about anything that is going on in this country today, they might make more of the fact that those who do care about the history of ideas from all parts of the political spectrum are deeply disturbed by the state of affairs in this country- not that this present bunch is entirely responsible for the general misdirection of this country, but it has become obvious that they have decided to heighten all of the worst tendencies of the last 50-60 years- chalmers johnson, pat buchanon (when he's not shilling for the war party on national tv), jim webb, larry johnson, john dean, kevin phillips, justin raimondo and most of the crowd that gets posted at antiwar.com- i'm sure the list goes on- these people are from the right of the dial and all have spoken out loud and clear that this administration is a serious and present danger to whatever is left of our democratic experiment
these are the people that the "left" should be having a dialogue with- not the morons who the corporate media feed all of us every single day (and who are echoed every single night on this blog by certain "resident trolls")
it's like an insistent buzz that just won't go away- kind of like the buzz of that rightwing dittohead that just refuses to realize that the voices he is hearing are just the result of all that oxycontin and the fact that he has taken so much of it that it has destroyed his hearing-
it is rather ironic that bimbo lost his hearing due to the ravaging physical effects of narcotic addiction (a well known side-effect of overuse of these drugs)- a physical manifestation of those very same drugs effect on his brain's ability to discern reality or understand much of what goes on around him- how poetic
keep singing your stupid songs sally...events are overtaking you and all the clowns like you. climate change is a part of the national and international consciousness and it will be for a long time. there is no point in trying to have factual arguments with your kind...we can just run right over you now...watch us:
Global warming is hot topic in Congress
By Janet Hook and Richard Simon, Times Staff Writer
5:51 PM PST, January 30, 2007
All of a sudden, global warming is hot.
After years of languishing on Capitol Hill, efforts to curb global warming have picked up momentum, powered by a growing bipartisan belief that climate change can no longer be ignored.
Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has declared it a top priority for the House. Presidential candidates from both parties call it one of the biggest issues faced by the next occupant of the White House. Even President Bush, long a skeptic, is sounding the alarm.
That's an abrupt break from the past, when the issue -- the role man-made pollutants play in the increase in the Earth's temperature -- was shrugged off by many politicians. Especially among Republicans, it was regarded as an untested theory or an alarmist fantasy.
Polls show that most Americans believe the studies that show pollution is a cause of climate change. And politicians now are scrambling to keep up with science and public opinion.
Legislation to curb global warming is still a long shot in Congress because there is no consensus on a solution. But almost all the candidates who want to succeed Bush -- from Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., to former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C. -- are far ahead of him in proposing ways to reduce carbon emissions.
"There has been a sea change in this issue over the last year," said Cathy Duvall, national political director of the Sierra Club. "It went from a backburner issue to something people understand is a problem. Now they are looking for leaders to take action."
The United States is the leading emitter of carbon dioxide, about one-quarter of the worldwide total. About 80 percent comes from fossil fuels, with power plants and vehicles as the leading culprits. Presidential politics and legislative debate came together Tuesday when McCain and several other candidates discussed their climate change legislation at a Senate hearing.
you better start swimming or you'll sink like a stone
perhaps at some point he too will succumb to a degenerative nerve disorder not unlike the disorder that michael fox suffers from- it would not be unheard of for a drug addict such as bimbo to suffer such a fate- and if that were the case, perhaps then he would fully understand what a hypocritically foul soul he really has been all these years
nite gregg- have to head out
someone suggested writing mr dean about the state of things on this blog- i'm thinking that would be a more meaningful action than coming back here again
good to talk to you
jefro, i have no idea why the dnc can't block out such trolls. still i like this blog more than the others. i guess it is partly because it was here that i watched kerry go down in flames in 04 and the republicans go down in 06. lots of memories. and sally makes a good foil for us. i do wish if trolls are going to be part of the landscape we could get one or two who are brighter and offer less dogma and more facts....
Climate scientists say White House pressured them
U.S. scientists have been pressured to make their writings on global warming fit with the Bush administration's skepticism on the topic, a U.S. Congressional committee has been told.
Full Story:
as i said, dogma. same shit over and over and over....quite discouraging...but then there is always this for a chuckle:
"The Republicans will hold a 4 seat advantage in both the House and the Senate.
That prediction may change again but one thing is certain - it will not be a blowout year for either side.
Posted by FrostyPumpkins on November 2, 2006 at 03:21 AM"
tell it to all the democratic chairs of all the congressional committees that are going to pick apart bush's butt hair by hair....hahahahahahaha
The concept of "humand induced global warming" is bunk. It is a liberal scheme to control behavior.
Posted by *Frosty*theMagnificent on January 31, 2007 at 12:15 AM
*****
Do you even realise how uneducated you sound? Global warming/climate change isn't about being a liberal or conservative it's about ALL HUMANS on the planet who have screwed up! The United States, China, and India are the largest offenders of greenhouse gases in the air which is screwing up the planet.
dka, that was some great testimony today. seems to me crimes were committed and i want them prosecuted in federal court.
dka my recommendation is to not flater that asshole with real arguments and facts, just call it names and make fun of it...it loves that, that's why it is here so much...
You know what I think Gregg, deep down inside Frosty must know the Democrat Party is what the real party trying to do what is right. Poor Frosty is in deep denial and is afraid to admit the truth that's why Frosty keeps coming to this website to read all the things that are posted here because everything being posted here is educational and truth. :-)
Good-Night Gregg and everyone else. Time for me to get some sleep myself. Peace everyone.
Good Nigh DKA,
Great assessment on the troll.
:)
nite fos. ships in the night. have a slow and mellow evening at work. waxman is really waxing the bushies...and pelosi looks quite presidential herself...certainly more than the idiot king.
Posted by gregg on January 31, 2007 at 12:22 AM
Good advice. I think I'll take it too.
;p
Good Night gregg,
(as the song goes)
I'm here all night long (all night)
Whooo Ohhh (all night)
All Night Long (all night)
LOL
;p
LATEST MYTHS & FACTS ON GLOBAL WARMING
Setting the Record Straight on Climate Change
Snip:
MYTH: Global warming can't be happening, since winters have been getting colder.
FACT: Winters have been getting warmer. Measurements show that Earth's climate has warmed overall over the past century, in all seasons, and in most regions. The skeptics mislead the public when they bill the winter of 2003-2004 as record cold in the northeastern United States. That winter was only the 33rd coldest in the region since records began in 1896. Furthermore, a single spell of cold weather in one small region is no indication of cooling of the global climate, which refers to a long-term average over the entire planet.
I have enough of these to go all night.
;p
Who's Side Are They On? I wonder.......
Iraq War Vets take their opposition to escalation to the airwaves
Snip:
Combat veterans against President Bush's policies for Iraq are stepping up efforts against a troop surge.
The president's plan is drawing criticism from Democrat and Republican lawmakers on Capitol Hill.
And the veterans who flew into Norfolk today want to see Virginia Senator John Warner take a stronger stand against the commander-in-chief.
"On the other hand there's George Bush who supports escalation." That's a line from a new commercial you'll likely see on TV soon.
A group of Iraq war veterans takes its message to the nation in a 30 second commercial that airs in Virginia beginning tomorrow as part of the "Vote-Vets'" campaign against escalating the war in Iraq.
Combat vets like Jon Soltz say President Bush's planned troop surge is the wrong approach.
"20-thousand more troops on ground is kinda like spitting in the ocean. This plan fails strategically and tactically. That's why as Iraq war vets, we can't support an escalation that is only going to put more people in harms way to get shot at."
Soltz, now an army reservist, says "Vote-Vets" is a pro-military group trying to hold politicians who do not support the military, accountable.
The group urges senators to put the bi-partisan Iraq Study Group findings into practice. The study group suggests a strong emphasis on diplomatic solutions for Iraq.
SOURCE
Bush's numbers may be Nixonian but they are not Trumanian yet.
Posted by *Frosty*theMagnificent on January 30, 2007 at 10:32 PM
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He's got that going for him. Most say he needs a war to keep from going there. You know... with all the indictments and all.
Today the House held hearings on how NASA global climate change studies were silenced be the higher ups and the WH. Hey, give faith-based science a chance. So trees were blooming in early january... in 70 degree heat. So just move the Cherry Blossum Festival up a few month. Gee, I should in the EPA.
How about this solution. jim Kramer says attacking Iran could run up gas prices to $5 a gallon. So think of how much we would conserve if gas went up to 4-5 bucks a gallon? I bet people would get economy cars and drive much less. It's compassionate conservation. I love it!
Millions wasted in Iraq reconstruction aid
Quarterly audit paints grim picture of fraud, frustration
WASHINGTON - The U.S. government wasted tens of millions of dollars in Iraq reconstruction aid, including scores of unaccounted-for weapons and a never-used camp for housing police trainers with an Olympic-size swimming pool, investigators say.
The quarterly audit by Stuart Bowen Jr., the special inspector general for Iraq reconstruction, is the latest to paint a grim picture of waste, fraud and frustration in an Iraq war and reconstruction effort that has cost taxpayers more than $300 billion and left the region near civil war.
“The security situation in Iraq continues to deteriorate, hindering progress in all reconstruction sectors and threatening the overall reconstruction effort,” according to the 579-page report, which was being released Wednesday.
Calling Iraq’s sectarian violence the greatest challenge, Bowen said in a telephone interview that billions in U.S. aid spent on strengthening security has had limited effect. Reconstruction now will fall largely on Iraqis to manage — and they’re nowhere ready for the task.
The audit comes as President Bush is pressing Congress to approve $1.2 billion in new reconstruction aid as part of his broader plan to stabilize Iraq by sending 21,500 more U.S. troops to Baghdad and Anbar province.
Democrats in Congress have been skeptical. Virginia Sen. Jim Webb has suggested that the U.S. is spending too much on Iraq reconstruction at the expense of Hurricane Katrina rebuilding in New Orleans, while California Rep. Henry Waxman plans in-depth hearings next week into charges of Iraq waste and fraud.
20 VIP trailers
According to the report, the State Department paid $43.8 million to contractor DynCorp International for the residential camp for police training personnel outside of Baghdad’s Adnan Palace grounds that has stood empty for months. About $4.2 million of the money was improperly spent on 20 VIP trailers and an Olympic-size pool, all ordered by the Iraqi Ministry of Interior but never authorized by the U.S.
U.S. officials spent another $36.4 million for weapons such as armored vehicles, body armor and communications equipment that can’t be accounted for. DynCorp also may have prematurely billed $18 million in other potentially unjustified costs, the report said.
Responding, the State Department said in the report that it was working to improve controls. Already, it has developed a review process that rejected a $1.1 million DynCorp bill earlier this month on a separate contract because the billed rate was incorrect.
A spokesman for DynCorp, Greg Lagana, did not immediately return a phone message seeking comment.
‘Very expensive process’
Bowen, whose office was nearly eliminated last month by administration-friendly Republicans in Congress, called spending waste in Iraq a continuing problem. Corruption is high among Iraqi officials, while U.S. contract management remains somewhat weak.
With America’s $21 billion rebuilding effort largely finished, it will be up to the international community and the Iraqis to step up its dollars to sustain reconstruction, Bowen said in the interview. “That will be a long-term and very expensive process,” he said.
According to the report:
Major U.S. contractors in Iraq, including Bechtel National and Kellogg, Brown and Root Services Inc., said they devoted an average 12.5 percent of their total expenses for security.
Bowen’s office opened 27 new criminal probes in the last quarter, bringing the total number of active cases to 78. Twenty-three are awaiting prosecutorial action by the Justice Department, most of them centering on charges of bribery and kickbacks.
Still, “fraud has not been a significant component of the U.S. experience in Iraq,” Bowen said.
As of the end of 2006, contracts had been let for all of the $21 billion Congress put into the Iraq Relief and Reconstruction Fund it created in 2003. Some 80 percent of the money has been paid out, the report said.
Since 2003, use of the reconstruction aid changed several times as U.S. officials shifted priorities to spend more on security problems or programs critical to supporting elections or developing the new government.
For example, money was cut from what had been originally planned for electricity, water, oil projects and transportation and communication so it could be used to help pay for such things as health care, elections, democracy programs and training Iraqi security forces.
Overall, the largest single expense was security. The total was spent in the following way:
34 percent for security and justice.
23 percent to try to generate and distribute electricity. Still, the report noted, output in the last quarter averaged below pre-war levels.
12 percent for water.
12 percent for economic and societal development.
9 percent for oil and gas.
4 percent for transportation and communications.
4 percent for health care.
Auditors had “significant concern” about the way ahead, partly because of the Iraqi government’s bad track record on budgeting for such projects, the report said. It said the Iraqi government had “billions of budgeted dollars remained unspent at the end of 2006.”
Unemployment remains high, contributing to the insurgency because it sours the population and leaves idle young men to their own devices, according to the report.
The government’s “most significant challenge continues to be strengthening rule-of-law institutions — the judiciary, prisons and the police,” the report said. “The United States has spent billions of dollars in this area, with limited success to date.”
SOURCE
Bush administration in hot seat over warming
Lawmakers get survey of scientists, half of whom report political pressure
WASHINGTON - The Democratic-controlled Congress on Tuesday stepped up its pressure on President Bush’s global warming strategy, hearing allegations of new political pressure on government scientists to downplay the threat of global warming.
Lawmakers received survey results of federal scientists that showed 46 percent felt pressure to eliminate the words “climate change,” “global warming” or similar terms from communications about their work.
The scientists also reported 435 instances of political interference in their work over the past five years.
SOURCE
(that's how they are you know)
Who ?
White Guys & Sexual Perversion?
* Mark Foley
* Warren Jeffs
* Ted Harggart
* Ken Mehlman
* All Republican Men
That's NOT cool. Not ALL White guys are perverts.
(that's how they are you know)
Posted by *Frosty*theMagnificent on January 31, 2007 a
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I don't think so. Can't make generalizations like that.
What about ol' Rep. Duke Cunningham? He stole big time. Takes the worst kind of whore to steal from the DOD and troops.
Obama Pushes for Iraq Pullout Deadline
By NEDRA PICKLER
The Associated Press
Tuesday, January 30, 2007; 10:26 PM
WASHINGTON -- Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama said Tuesday U.S. combat forces should be out of Iraq by spring 2008 to end "a foreign policy disaster" but he stopped short of endorsing a cutoff in funds.
The Illinois senator introduced a bill to force the redeployment under law, but that's unlikely while Bush is president. Still, Obama said he's taking Bush up on his challenge to critics to offer alternatives.
"It is important at this point that Congress offer specific constructive approaches to what's proven to be a foreign policy disaster," Obama said in an interview with The Associated Press, "because we've got too much at stake to simply stand on the sidelines and criticize."
Obama's bill would cap troop levels in Iraq at the early January level of around 130,000, when Bush announced he would send 21,500 additional U.S. forces to Iraq. It would require that troops begin coming home on May 1 with the goal of removing all combat brigades by March 31, 2008.
Asked to respond to Obama's plan, White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said: "Any plan that sets arbitrary troop caps or begins to pull troops out of Baghdad before the city is secure will not lead to the political reconciliation we all agree is necessary for Iraq to be a stable democracy."
Some Democratic rivals such as John Edwards and Tom Vilsack have called on lawmakers to withhold funds for the additional troops.
"If we simply cut off funding without any structure for how a redeployment takes place, then you could genuinely have a Constitutional crisis or at least a crisis on the ground where the president continues to send troops there but now they're being shortchanged in terms of armaments and support," Obama said.
Some legal scholars question whether Congress has the authority to bring troops home because the president has control of military forces.
Obama noted that he taught constitutional law for 10 years and rejected the notion that the congressional authorization for war in 2002 gives Bush "carte blanche to proceed in any way."
"The notion that as a consequence of that authorization, the president can continue down a failed path without any constraints from Congress whatsoever is wrong and is not warranted by our Constitution," Obama said in a 10-minute telephone call.
Obama said troops should be sent to three locations _ home to the United States, in countries around Iraq to prevent regional conflict and to Afghanistan, which he said is in danger of falling back to the Taliban.
The bill also would place conditions on economic aid to Iraq and would allow for a temporary suspension of the redeployment if the Iraqis meet security, political and economic benchmarks.
Obama said he thinks his bill could get bipartisan support, but he doesn't have any co-sponsors yet
SOURCE
Why Democrats should ignore Al Sharpton.
Race Leader
by James Kirchick
Only at TNR Online | Post date 01.31.07
The 2008 Democratic primary passed an important milestone last week with the introductory libations that candidates make at the altar of the Reverend Al Sharpton. Senators Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, the primary frontrunners, both made time for Sharpton when he came to Capitol Hill, as did Senators Chris Dodd and Joe Biden. After a 15-minute meeting for which she left a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing on troop levels (an issue she says is important to her), Clinton gushed, "I'm delighted to have Reverend Sharpton here today to talk about issues important to our country, to his commitment to the twenty-first-century civil rights agenda; it is one that I share." Sharpton was equally pleased with Clinton, telling The New York Times, "I'm not endorsing anyone at this point, but she has more of a civil rights program laid out. And I always know where I stand with her. She is always accessible and welcoming." According to the Times, Sharpton's visit to Washington was intended as a thinly veiled warning to Barack Obama "that he should not take for granted the political support of Mr. Sharpton." The reverend told the Times, "I left the meeting a little curious, feeling that he was noticing our civil rights agenda, but I didn't understand what his civil rights agenda is."..
SOURCE
Where'd you go J ?
Are ya reading back posts?
;p
Nagin said he is not asking for more money, just that the money allocated get to the city faster.
As of Jan. 18, the
Federal Emergency Management Agency had agreed to pay $334 million for infrastructure repairs in New Orleans, but Louisiana had forwarded only $145 million to the city. State officials have said city leaders failed to provide required documentation, which Nagin called cumbersome.
See this is a perfect example of why I say that Ray Nagin is NOT a public administrator. Whether paperwork is cumbersome or not it has to be completed in order to receive funding. If Ray had an MPA instead of an MBA he would know this and definitely would not be complaining of about the large amount of paperwork.
Bottom line: Ray Nagin still continues to be apart of the problem of New Orleans slow recovery.
I'm here and I've aready scanned the littered field of troll droppings.
Very touching account of Obama's journey through two ethnic heritages.
http://www.examiner.com/a-536474~_Trapped_between_two_worlds_.html
Posted by J on January 31, 2007 at 06:26 AM
I think you showed me this one. Remember? I told you about that "episode" with my little 11 year old Neice who's also Bi-Racial?
J,
Should I get this in Ash Grey or White?
Hoodie
That makes me want to give Obama a hug. Dude went through some serious sress from both sides . Now I know how my nieces and nephews feel.
Just posted that article about Obama in hopes that others read it this morning.
Try the ash grey first, but eventually get the white one too.
Posted by J on January 31, 2007 at 06:47 AM
Okay. I will check my messages too.
;p
Before I go thought you wuld like this article.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/231872,CST-NWS-obama27.article
Gotta run. Take care and get some rest
Keep the faith :)
Peace \/
Posted by J on January 31, 2007 at 06:53 AM
I got that one too. Okay, till later my friend. I replied to your message btw.
DR
OMG!
I's -10 degrees (windchill) here in Green Bay. (Brrr) I want to have my tea, climb in bed and sleeeeeeep.
;p
Morning all,
Check this out, and scroll down to the bottom of the page.
bush isn't going to hell
Good morning.
Shell Iran plan will come under US scrutiny
The US authorities will “take a look at” a controversial agreement signed over the weekend by Royal Dutch Shell that could ultimately lead to a multi-billion dollar investment in Iran, a US State Department official said.
Shell and its partner Repsol of Spain have signed a service agreement, as reported in the Financial Times last week, with the Iranian government to continue work on developing blocks 13 and 14 of the giant South Pars gas field, in spite of mounting international pressure over the country’s nuclear programme.
bush may not go to hell. scroll down the page.
I think it is right this time. click on my name.
Thirteen arrest warrants issued for CIA operatives who Kidnapped people overseas for rendition peogram. Issued by the German Government.
Seems the Germans are way ahead of us in bringing the Chimp Wimp to Justice!
Were's are arrest warrants for the Chimp's cronies?
House Democrat vows scrutiny on homeland security
The new Democratic chairman of the House of Representatives homeland security panel on Monday vowed aggressive scrutiny of Bush administration policies to protect the United States from attack.
Rep. Bennie Thompson of Mississippi said the House Committee on Homeland Security would take a hard look at efforts by the Department of Homeland Security to integrate the 22 agencies that comprise its operations.
It's a balmy 37 Degrees here in central New Mexico. Sorry.
I heard overnight that millions and millions of Dollars have been spent and wasted in Iraq. Hell that's no secret, we knew all along that cheney has been siphoning off money for his haliburton cronies.
An example is that we built a training camp for their army and spent 44 Million. It is sitting empty. There are Millions missing in the form of weapons and equipment they can't find. Then there was the hospital some crony built and quit right in the middle and it sits unfinished. He probable pocketed the money. The list goes on and on. When is it going to end/
Talk about totally incompetent aholes. bush and cheney have to go now.
IMpeach, arrest and end this so called War now.
Not tomorrow, now!!!
good morning. this little story would be funny if it didn't capture the way bush has treated the people of the world. scaring the shit out of everyone and then laughing weirdly to himself like the little spoiled rich bitch he is:
I Have Had My Differences With Members of the Press. But it's Nothing That Burying them Under Tons of Earth Won't Solve
Contributed by Holly Bailey - Posted: January 30, 2007 2:10:10 PM
Does President Bush have it in for the press corps? Touring a Caterpillar factory in Peoria, Ill., the Commander in Chief got behind the wheel of a giant tractor and played chicken with a few wayward reporters. Wearing a pair of stylish safety glasses--at least more stylish than most safety glasses--Bush got a mini-tour of the factory before delivering remarks on the economy. "I would suggest moving back," Bush said as he climbed into the cab of a massive D-10 tractor. "I'm about to crank this sucker up." As the engine roared to life, White House staffers tried to steer the press corps to safety, but when the tractor lurched forward, they too were forced to scramble for safety."Get out of the way!" a news photographer yelled. "I think he might run us over!" said another. White House aides tried to herd the reporters the right way without getting run over themselves. Even the Secret Service got involved, as one agent began yelling at reporters to get clear of the tractor. Watching the chaos below, Bush looked out the tractor's window and laughed, steering the massive machine into the spot where most of the press corps had been positioned. The episode lasted about a minute, and Bush was still laughing when he pulled to a stop. He gave reporters a thumbs-up. "If you've never driven a D-10, it's the coolest experience," Bush said afterward. Yeah, almost as much fun as seeing your life flash before your eyes.
Feds to Let Two Firms Test E-voting Machines
The federal government this month took the first step in certifying two laboratories for testing electronic voting machines.
The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), in its role as a scientific adviser to the U.S. Election Assistance Commission (EAC), said that the labs of iBeta Quality Assurance in Aurora, Colo., and SysTest Labs LLC in Denver meet the technical requirements of the latest federal testing guidelines.
Here's the URL for the GAO investigation. chimp will simply eliminate the GAO like he fired the US Attorneys and appointed repig activists.
He will probably privatize the GAO and "contract" it out to cheney and haliburton.
These clowns have to go. The real repig party has been hijacked. I am now calling them the NAZI party. All of Hitler's hacks stole everything under the sun during the war. Goering had a palatial palace in the Austrian Alps with a huge wine cellar full of vintage wines stolen from all over Europe. I think the only honest one was Albert Speer.
good morning, y'all...
johnedward, that's a good one! even Don Imus called him a "war criminal" yesterday
Judy Miller doesn't even read the NYTimes...and what is she so nervous about? FDL has great liveblog in three parts on their site.
GOTV,
I love the fact that the German government is doing something about chimp. I wonder if they can indict bush and cheney and send UN troops into Washington and drag them kicking and screaming to the Hague. I can hear bush now. "You can't do this I am the decider", and cheney "F**k you krauts".
Posted by gregg on January 31, 2007 at 07:56 AM
they use those puppies to demolish houses
"gentrification" of Palestinian settlements...
i hate that rat bastid! impeach, indict and NOW!
Posted by Johnedwrd on January 31, 2007 at 07:58 AM
Isn't it fun getting closer to the truth?
Good Morning Cem's.....JohnEdward....thx for the links....I'm wonder where that bill board is located..."Some Bastards to evil for hell"....any ideas on that?....John Boy.....
Gotta hit the road. Enjoy the day, everyone.
8 Keys to the Campaign
GOTV
Germany orders arrests in rendition probe
Wednesday, 31 January 2007 12:03
Germany has ordered the arrest of 13 people over the alleged CIA-backed abduction of a Lebanese-born German man.
It is claimed that Khaled el-Masri was abducted by US agents in the Macedonian capital, Skopje, on New Year's Eve 2003 and flown to a prison in Afghanistan for interrogation before he was released five months later in Albania.
Mr Masri has said he was tortured while imprisoned.
Prosecutors have now issued arrest warrants on suspicion of abduction and grievous bodily harm in connection with the case of so-called 'extraordinary rendition'.
It is understood that a list has been obtained containing the names of the people on board the plane that took Mr Masri to Afghanistan.
In a statement, the prosecutor's office said that according to its information, the suspects listed in the arrest warrants are believed to be code names of CIA agents. The investigation will now focus on learning the actual names of the suspects.
Most of the CIA employees sought live in the US state of North Carolina, however the German arrest warrants are not valid in the US and US authorities have refused to co-operate with the investigation.
Good morning, all.
Posted by fade2bluz on January 31, 2007 at 08:00 AM
fade,
These "in-the-know" pundit/media types give me the creeps. They were all cheerleaders for the administration just a year ago...a few months ago.
This country needs real reporters not celebrities.
For 2 senators, soldier's death puts face on war's toll
Late last year, Freeman approached the senators at Landing Zone Washington, in Baghdad's Green Zone, "almost out of the shadows," Dodd recalled.
Even though he felt nervous, Freeman told his wife, he delivered his message with urgency. Soldiers were being deployed to do missions that they were untrained to do; Freeman, for example, an armor officer, had been sent to help foster democracy and rebuild an Iraqi civil society.
State Department personnel who could do those jobs were restricted in their travel by regional security officers who said it was unsafe for them.
this is interesting, bush is asking for more reconstruction money, the money that is being spent is misappropriated and there is lots of appropriated money that has not been spent. i guess bush's masters at halliburton and such must have projected how much they want to steal next year and then told bush he needs to make the piggie bank bigger for them...what a compltetely f_ _ _ ed up situation:
BBC:
Last Updated: Wednesday, 31 January 2007, 10:43 GMT
US money is 'squandered' in Iraq
Millions of dollars in US rebuilding funds have been wasted in Iraq, US auditors say in a report which warns corruption in the country is rife.
A never-used camp in Baghdad for police trainers with an Olympic-size swimming pool is one of the examples highlighted in the quarterly audit.
Billions of budgeted dollars meanwhile remain unspent by Iraq's government.
The report comes as President Bush is urging Congress to approve $1.2bn (£600m) in further reconstruction aid.
The audit by Stuart Bowen, the special inspector general for Iraq reconstruction (Sigir), is the latest in a regular series of updates to Congress.
Budgeting problems
"The security situation continue to deteriorate, hindering progress in all reconstruction sectors and threatening the overall reconstruction effort," says his 579-page report, which is due to be released later on Wednesday.
Among the wide-ranging findings, the audit says that corruption continues to plague Iraq and infrastructure security remains vulnerable.
Auditors express "significant concern" about the Iraqi government's record in managing and spending budgets.
Billions of dollars budgeted for capital projects remained unspent at the end of 2006, the report says.
pigs at the trough
John Boy,
I don't know where that billboard is located. Maybe London. I googled for the site. I put in "bush" and "a**hole". It's amazing all the great sites that came up.
This country needs a real president not a celebrity.
Gotta run. later.
Why Nemesis is at the US's door
By Chalmers Johnson
History tells us that one of the most unstable political combinations is a country - like the United States today - that tries to be a domestic democracy and a foreign imperialist.
Why this is so can be a very abstract subject. Perhaps the best way to offer my thoughts on this is to say a few words about my new book, Nemesis, and explain why I gave it the subtitle The Last Days of the American Republic. Nemesis is the third book to have grown out of my research over the past eight years. I never set out to write a trilogy on America's increasingly endangered democracy, but as I kept stumbling on ever more evidence of the legacy of the imperialist pressures we Americans put on many other countries as well as the nature and size of our military empire, one book led to another.
Professionally, I am a specialist in the history and politics of East Asia. In 2000, I published Blowback: The Costs and Consequences of American Empire, because my research on China, Japan and the two Koreas persuaded me that US policies there would have serious future consequences. The book was noticed at the time, but only after September 11, 2001, did the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) term I adapted for the title - "blowback" - become a household word and my volume a best-seller.
I had set out to explain how exactly the US government came to be so hated around the world. As a CIA term of tradecraft, "blowback" does not just mean retaliation for things the government has done to, and in, foreign countries. It refers specifically to retaliation for illegal operations carried out abroad that were kept totally secret from the US public.
These operations have included the clandestine overthrow of governments various US administrations did not like, the training of foreign militaries in the techniques of state terrorism, the rigging of elections in foreign countries, and interference with the economic viability of countries that seemed to threaten the interests of influential US corporations, as well as the torture or assassination of selected foreigners. The fact that these actions were, at least originally, secret meant that when retaliation does come - as it did so spectacularly on September 11, 2001 - the US public is incapable of putting the events in context. Not surprisingly, then, Americans tend to support speedy acts of revenge intended to punish the actual, or alleged, perpetrators. These moments of lashing out, of course, only prepare the ground for yet another cycle of blowback.
A world of bases
As a continuation of my own analytical odyssey, I then began doing research on the network of 737 US military bases maintained around the world (according to the Pentagon's own 2005 official inventory). Not including the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts, the US now stations more than half a million troops, spies, contractors, dependants and others on military bases in more than 130 countries, many of them presided over by dictatorial regimes that have given their citizens no say in the decision to let the US in.
As but one striking example of imperial basing policy: for the past 61 years, the US military has garrisoned the small Japanese island of Okinawa with 37 bases. Smaller than Kauai in the Hawaiian Islands, Okinawa is home to 1.3 million people who live cheek-by-jowl with 17,000 US troops of the 3rd Marine Division and the largest US installation in East Asia - Kadena Air Force Base. There have been many Okinawan protests against the rapes, crimes, accidents and pollution caused by this sort of concentration of US troops and weaponry, but so far the US military - in collusion with the Japanese government - has ignored them. My research into America's base world resulted in The Sorrows of Empire: Militarism, Secrecy, and the End of the Republic, written during the run-up to the invasion of Iraq.
{you will learn more about us from these books than from a lifetime of t.v. or "news"...do yourself a favor and read Chalmers Johnson. he is the son of an award winning journalist, and the best, imho. )
Got to go to work. The contractor is finally finishing up that street job in Belen. He is only five months over contract time. He should be done in another month. See y'all later.
This country needs real reporters not celebrities.
Posted by SandyH on January 31, 2007 at 08:12 AM
Sandy, Chalmers Johnson is a real reporter. You will love his work! see my 8:17...enjoy!
pigs at the trough
Posted by gregg on January 31, 2007 at 08:13 AM
arghhhhhhhh they make me sick! i hate these rat bastids! indict, impeach, incarecerate
fill up a Supermax with these criminals...every last one of 'em
Mornin' Fade, Kristen, Gregg, Sandyh, JohnE....looks like the next two weeks are going to get more and more interesting...HeHeHe....John Boy....
nice to see you all, great crowd this morning!
have a wonderful day, {{{y'all}}}
How many of are so called Generals made millions in book deals after they left the Millitary.
Sounds like Hitlers Generals!!!
General Be Tray Us probably gets a 3rd star, promised a 4th and million dollar book deal after he supports this new plan.
He wrote a book 2 years ago about counter insurgency that said in effect this plan now would not work!!!
Kerry's next question should be:
"How many millions you going to make off a book deal on the last soldier to die for this IMMORAL and ILLEGAL war?
Fade...thx for the post at 8:17...I'll be going to the library to see if I can check out his books...great reporting...John Boy....
Updated: 6 minutes ago
NEW YORK - Democratic Sen. Joe Biden has been saying for months he's running for president. He made it official on Wednesday. The Delaware senator will file the paperwork with the Federal Election Commission and release a videotaped campaign message to voters on his Web site, joebiden.com. He also is planning another trip to New Hampshire early next week.
"After nine months of doing this, there is no exploratory committee - I'm running," Biden told The Associated Press.
....ok, ok do we have enough potential candidates yet? can we get off this nonsense for the rest of the year and try to resolve bush's disaster in iraq, develop a really high impact approach to reverse the destruction of our environment, design a national health care system, plan for the replacement or repair of municipal infrastructure and so on....you know, get about the work of adults who are trying to provide a healthy world and system of social mechanisms for future generations???
i say this because for me this bullshit about who is running can be played out every two years as an end in itself with nothing of meaning ever getting accomplished.
Gregg at 8:55 right on...but with the Republican obstructionists in the Senate and Bush the veto Chimp in the W/H, I think your expectations are high. I suspect that we will have to vote out of office, impeach, imprison these criminals prior to making the kind of progress you are asking for....so let's get on with the investigations....Biden was stong this am....John Boy...
Morning all,
This comment posted last night was given new meaning this morning, as I read the story of yet another way the Republicans do not know how to run a war, and are horrible at defending this country!
We're mad because Bush, Cheney, Rummy, and you freaks that follow them, are to stupid to win this war. Just because you morons can't win, don't go trying to say it's OUR fault you're a bunch of dumbasses who don't know how to win.
Posted by Domingo on January 30, 2007 at 10:08 PM
U.S. May Have Botched Training of Iraqis
WASHINGTON -- Training the police is as important to stabilizing Iraq as standing up an army there, but the United States has botched the job by assigning the wrong agencies to the task, two members of the Iraq Study Group say.
"The police training system has not gone well," former Rep. Lee Hamilton, who co-chaired the bipartisan commission, said in remarks prepared for delivery Wednesday to the Senate Judiciary Committee. He was joined in his statements by another member of the study group, Edwin Meese III, who was attorney general during the Reagan administration.
The story we are getting out of Iraq about the conditions on the ground and the troops' morale still is heavily filtered through corporate media.
Posted by SandyH on January 30, 2007 at 11:26 PM
this article snuck through, Sandy, and says troop morale that is being so highly praised, is a crop of B-S!
Army's Suicide Struggles Continue
2006 Rate Of Self-Inflicted Deaths In Iraq Could Exceed Record Set In 2005
Just stopping by.
Posted by PamB on January 31, 2007 at 09:08 AM
Hi, Pam.
I was under the impression that the people of the Fertile Crescent have been writing laws and policing themselves for over 5,000 years. Isn’t Hammurabi’s Tablet of Laws was found? Why do we have to waste time and effort showing them how it’s done? They would do it themselves if we got out of the way.
All we hear from this administration is how the Iraqis don’t know how to do anything.
They don’t know how to fight and raise an army…but they organize and keep killing our soldiers. That they don’t know how to build utilities…but they sure know where the best place is to disable them with bombs. That they don’t know how to run a government….yet they have set up a system of corruption and bribery that rivals that of Delay’s. I could go on.
It’s time to face the fact that we are not keeping out troops over there to help the Iraqis. We are keeping them over there so Bush/Cheney and their Republican Party don’t have to admit failure…and to protect their investments.
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