Governor Dean Blasts Coulter’s Slur, Calls on GOP Presidential Candidates to Denounce It
Posted by on March 2, 2007 at 06:43 PMDuring her presentation to today’s Conservative Political Action Convention (CPAC), political pundit Ann Coulter used the word “faggot” to describe a Democratic presidential candidate. Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean today condemned her remarks and called on the Republican presidential contenders to denounce them.
Dean:
"There is no place in political discourse for this kind of hate-filled and bigoted comments. While Democrats and Republicans may disagree on the issues, we should all be able to agree that this kind of vile rhetoric is out of bounds. The American people want a serious, thoughtful debate of the issues. Republicans -- including the Republican presidential candidates who shared the podium with Ann Coulter today -- should denounce her hateful remarks."
Video via ThinkProgress.
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Bravo Governor Dean! Just having that twisted sister at the convention is an insult to the American people. Using homophobic slurs to attack John Edwards, a truly decent person, is way over the top. Now that Rudy and Mitt have kowtowed to the far right I am interested in hearing their reaction to their co-presenters remarks. Show me your friends and I will show you yourself.
Posted by gregg on March 2, 2007 at 07:22 PM
Republicans are rotten through & through. How they can be so corrupt & immoral and still stay out of jail. Surely the American people want honest and moral people to represent them?
Posted by freeforall on March 2, 2007 at 07:38 PM
Nice. Not a single major news outlet has picked this up. They were the first ones to crucify Michael Richards, but they won't touch the conservatives when they gay bash.
Posted by AZ_Squeegee on March 2, 2007 at 08:05 PM
Markos says Harry Reid picked Lieberman to do the Democratic address tomorrow. He finds it outrageous, and I agree. Lieberman split from the party, and we don't need for Harry Reid to take his side like this. He is being pampered.
Posted by sunny on March 2, 2007 at 09:18 PM
Well, Dean certainly said as little as possible to make it CLEAR that being gay is just fine, that LGBT people are a valuable componont of society, and that the Dems in fact stand behind their LGBT brothers and sisters in a the just fight for full civil equality. nice going Howard. What a jerk.
Posted by Thor on March 2, 2007 at 09:19 PM
Thank you, Dr. Dean. I hope to see more of this from the party.
Posted by ProudSelfishHedonist on March 2, 2007 at 09:20 PM
Call me skeptical, but I can't find this press release anywhere but on this blog. Methinks Howard is too wimpy to send it out intot the wide world, for fear he'll be thought to like gay people. It's not on the press release page, it's not being reported by any major news outlets. I'm waiting for a REAL defense of LGBT people, Howard!
Posted by Thor on March 2, 2007 at 09:31 PM
By saying these things the Repigs just advance our cause more! They show the rest of the world there true colors also.
Posted by GOTV on March 2, 2007 at 09:35 PM
Gov. Dean is right. The hate hags, Ann Coulter et al, vile comments like calling Democratic leaders "faggots" or calling for a Supreme Court Justice to be poisoned should not be rewarded by any media -- especially the national or MSM media -- with any recognition. The way to return political discourse back to issues is to deny those that engage in personal attacks and promote hate politics to justify their positions.
Posted by CyclingLeft on March 2, 2007 at 09:46 PM
Hey IndependentMinded on March 2, 2007 at 09:47 PM,
When any of us on an anonymous blg have the megaphone that Coulter has, and use it at a major Dem or progressive function, then you can compare and contrast. Context is everything.
Posted by Thor on March 2, 2007 at 09:51 PM
Bravo! I hope before it's over with she's banned from the GOP!
-Hardliner
Posted by Hardliner on March 2, 2007 at 09:51 PM
Thor, your skepticism is unfounded.
Dean's statements can be read right in the belly of the beast:
Fox News
Posted by Malacandra on March 2, 2007 at 10:36 PM
Hey, any time Coulter disses somebody, it's like a badge of honor. You know they are doing something right.
It's the people she LIKES you have to look out for. They'll cut your throat and say you did it.
Posted by Butte on March 2, 2007 at 11:42 PM
orangutan you are a silly, silly.
glue ann coulter to rudy and mitt, that will help sink them. i want brownback or newt to be the repub candidate so the dems can win 48 states...i give the evil ones mississisppi and alabama...
Posted by gregg on March 3, 2007 at 12:11 AM
That woman needs to have her tongue cut out. Maybe next time Bin Lauden strikes "at the heart and soul of America", he'll send his goon squad after her for some "extraordinary rendition" with the Taliban. They know how to treat these types of women....like they treat all women.
Posted by SandyH on March 3, 2007 at 12:32 AM
I think the most damage done will be to Romney because he called her a "moderate". If that's a "moderate" and he's supposed to be even further to the right, then that means he accepts this ideology and he's a bigot as well. I think we should go after Romney and make him tell us if he shares Ann Coulters opinions about Obama and Edwards as well. I know he's a Mormon and their book teaches Racism, but he claims he's not like that and the Religion has changed. After this, it appears that Mormons are still the same as they were when they first made up this religion of White Supremacist Pseudo Christianity.
;p
Posted by FreedomOfSpeechForBarackObama2008 on March 3, 2007 at 01:08 AM
Reminder:
This is what Romney said.
“I am happy to hear that after you hear from me, you will hear from Ann Coulter. That is a good thing. Oh yeah!”
Posted by FreedomOfSpeechForBarackObama2008 on March 3, 2007 at 01:10 AM
Still narry a peep from the Edwards campaign regarding Coulter. Oh yeah, except this pathetic [beg for cash https://johnedwards.com/action/contribute/coulter]. Nice job, John. A real leader would have stepped up immediately and stated how he stands by his gay & lesbian neighbors. But no, just a friggin cash call.
Posted by Thor on March 3, 2007 at 01:19 AM
This sort of behavior is to be expected of people like Ann Coulter and shows the true colors of the Republican Party.
Ann Coulter is after all the same woman who stated she wouldn't mind going back to the time before the Emancipation Proclamation, and this is someone the Republicans PAID to speak at their function. Beautiful!! I hope the right wingers continue on this path to self destruction, no one reasonable can support that kind of logic.
In regards to comments posted by "IndependentMinded"
There are several key differences between comments made by bloggers and a person paid to speak at a key political function, don't try to fool yourself. Furthermore, "F*ggot is a derogatory term and should not be used in a public environment any more than other curse words. It sounds unintelligent and bigoted.
That actor from Grey's Anatomy came under all kinds of fire for using that "f" word - but here are the Republican Presidential hopefuls, and other Republican snobarchy laughing at her wanton use of such a nasty word.
What is unfortunate is that Ann Coulter is not a fringe element of the right wing, she has the view of a "moderate" as stated by Mitt Romney, who was more than thrilled to be in the same room as Coulter.
If Coulter has a problem with Edwards policy, she should attack his policy, not fabricate inflammatory statements about his sexuality, it really shows the immaturity of the Republican Party.
Posted by BluGrrl on March 3, 2007 at 01:20 AM
This outrage should be on the tongues of every non-bigoted American. Everyone who reads this comment should be commenting ot the news outlets about this. Enough complaints, and this evil woman won't be able to find a jobb on an AM station in middle america. This is not Free Speech, it is Hate Speech.
Posted by AZ_Squeegee on March 3, 2007 at 02:03 AM
Ann Coulter has committed so many of these unethical and hate filled remarks that they have become her trademark. The listeners expect her to make an even more outrageous remark than her previous ones and in fact she knows that her audience, what is left of it, is awaiting her reactions. What is so serious in our country is that columnists of her ilk are unable to comport themselves with any kind of decorum on serious matters and believe that acting the part of a street slut makes them more acceptable to the public. It does but only to that section of the audience which is on the same moral level as she is.
Posted by basilobo on March 3, 2007 at 03:45 AM
Ann Coulter is a fine representative of conservative thinking. That is why they will continue to lose in 2008!
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 07:08 AM
What's behind the conditions at Walter Reed? Privatization.
by smintheus
Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 08:58:05 PM PST
It's a story that shirah has been chronicling for years at Unbossed: the outrages against decency and common sense that have been committed by Bush & Co. in the name of privatization. Today comes word that the appalling conditions at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center are due in large part to the implementation of one such privatization scheme.
The damage to the Center's mission, and the harm this would visit on the badly wounded vets treated there, was predicted in advance; resisted by Democrats in Congress; and catalogued as it unfolded. But to no avail. The Army barged ahead with the privatization anyway, the mission be damned. Hell, the vets be damned!
This is the imperative to privatize. Since 2002, it has been steadily sapping the ability of the federal government to do its job. It's just another side to the elevation of ideology over responsibility, which has become the hallmark of the Bush administration.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 07:09 AM
Things Get Even More Interesting in Fired U.S. Attorneys Case
by MissLaura
Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 10:56:32 PM PST
Let's review: The Justice Department - very unusually - fires seven U.S. attorneys. First they say it was because of poor performance. Indeed, Alberto Gonzales personally assures the Senate Judiciary Committee of that:
"I would never, ever make a change in a United States attorney for political reasons or if it would in any way jeopardize an ongoing serious investigation. I just would not do it."
Then actual performance evaluations surface, and it turns out they're very positive. So it's not too surprising when reports emerge that it was political. Now we get confirmation that not only was it political, the White House approved the decision.
The White House approved the firings of seven U.S. attorneys late last year after senior Justice Department officials identified the prosecutors they believed were not doing enough to carry out President Bush's policies on immigration, firearms and other issues, White House and Justice Department officials said yesterday.
Such an admission from this administration is unusual, and the admission that closes the Washington Post article is even more so:
Privately, White House officials acknowledged that the administration mishandled the firings by not explaining more clearly to lawmakers that a large group was being terminated at once -- which is unusual -- and that the reason was the policy performance review.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 07:24 AM
well it's early saturday and i still haven't heard much about colt face on the msm. i hope they didn't "miss" the story.
Posted by gregg on March 3, 2007 at 07:25 AM
I have signed up to hear from most of the Presidential candidates, but this pimping is as bad as what Annie does.
I say we fight. Help us raise $100,000 in "Coulter Cash" this week to show every would-be Republican mouthpiece that their bigoted attacks will not intimidate this campaign. I just threw in 100 bucks. Will you join me?
No, I won't join, David. But I understand you are trying to raise money to keep your job.
Posted by Esmeralda on March 3, 2007 at 07:34 AM
from yahoo news:
Opinion
At CPAC, Ann Coulter Calls John Edwards A "Faggot"
Fri Mar 2, 5:39 PM ET
The Nation -- Just returned from CPAC, where I caught Ann Coulter call
John Edwards a "faggot" (Crooks and Liars has video). The crowd roared their approval, of course. Then Coulter endorsed Mitt Romney. Another gem from Coultergeist: Discussing black Republicans, she declared, "Our blacks are better than their blacks."
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I mixed it up with Coulter during Q & A. If you didn't catch that on C-Span, video will be up in the coming days on the Nation website.
I also met concentration camp enthusiast Michelle Malkin at her book signing and asked her to autograph this photo. From the looks of what she wrote on her blog and the hysterical rant she launched into the lens of our video camera, Malkin was non-plussed about the encounter:
Interlude: Two punks from The Nation with a camera stopped by my book signing to ambush me about In Defense of Internment. Have they bothered to read the book? No. I look forward to their butchering of my comments and the predictable unhinged reaction.
Sorry, Michelle. We're going to go to the videotape soon and we'll see who is unhinged.
Posted by gregg on March 3, 2007 at 07:40 AM
Angered by Democrats' drive for 'consensus' on Iraq, some Congressional progressives will push for withdrawal on floor
Submitted by davidswanson on Sat, 2007-03-03 04:10. Congress
By Michael Roston, www.RawStory.com
Consensus-seeking negotiations on a measure that would limit President Bush's troop escalation in Iraq have angered Congressional progressives. RAW STORY has learned that they are readying a response that will call for a more rapid withdrawal of US troops from America's four year-long war.
A Democratic aide close to the Congressional Progressive Caucus told RAW STORY that some Democrats will push for withdrawal when the next bill on Iraq War funding comes to the House floor.
"There is a plan for a whip operation, to get votes for an amendment that will say that any money spent will go toward a fully funded withdrawal," the aide explained. "We can't support the idea of having a $150 billion Supplemental [Defense Appropriations bill] that gives $100 billion for the escalation."
The Congressional Progressive Caucus is co-chaired by Reps. Lynn Woolsey and Barbara Lee, both California Democrats. It currently claims 71 Members of Congress in its ranks and has set its own policy on Iraq.
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/19174
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Get behind the progressive Democrats and demand an end to this war.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 07:42 AM
from the l.a. times:
"...The day's most controversial speaker proved to be conservative pundit Ann Coulter, who at the end of her speech — which followed Romney's — used a slur to refer to Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards.
Coulter said she had intended to comment on the former senator from North Carolina, "but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word 'faggot,' so I … can't really talk about Edwards."
The Democratic National Committee chairman, Howard Dean, quickly issued a statement calling on the GOP presidential candidates at the conference to "denounce her hateful remarks."
A Giuliani spokeswoman said she had not heard the speech, and a Romney spokesman did not return calls late Friday."
Posted by gregg on March 3, 2007 at 07:46 AM
well it's early saturday and i still haven't heard much about colt face on the msm. i hope they didn't "miss" the story.
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gregg, they'll ignore it. Now, if it was Michael Moore saying that about one of the republican presidential candidates, the MSM would have gone ballistic. The media is still very much our enemy. Just look at all the right wingers that are making their way on cspan. WTF? Everytime I turn on cspan there is a new bunch of right wing nuts on. What gives? From the way the MSM acts, you would think conservatives won in 2006.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 07:46 AM
The terms of the supplemental bill on the Iraq War seemed to represent a victory for the Blue Dog Coalition, a caucus in Congress that emphasizes budgetary discipline and has sometimes been identified as "conservative Democrats." They proposed a measure early last month that also emphasized the idea of benchmarks that the Iraqi government must meet to continue to receive American support.
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Oh great the damn Blue Dogs. So, the DLC wing of this party still rules ... Progressives won the election in 2006 not the damn DLC Dems.
Stick it in your ear Hoyer. I won't contribute a dime to the party as long you continue to ignore the voters in 2006. The iraq concensus you want to pass is total garbage. might as pass nothing than that.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 07:50 AM
A Giuliani spokeswoman said she had not heard the speech, and a Romney spokesman did not return calls late Friday.
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Yeah right!
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 07:51 AM
Congress Issues First Subpoena to a Hostile Witness
Submitted by davidswanson on Sat, 2007-03-03 00:59. Congress
Let the subpoenas and justice flow!
Congressman Conyers issued the first subpoenas, but to friendly witnesses. Now Congressman Waxman has issued the first subpoena to a hostile witness who does not wish to testify. It's a start! Here's where the next few dozen subpoenas should go:
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/investigations
Waxman to Force Walter Reed Ex-Chief to Talk About Problems, Contract
By Justin Rood and Anna Schecter, ABC News
A powerful Democratic congressman is challenging the Pentagon, which is attempting to block the former chief of Walter Reed Army Medical Center from testifying before Congress next week.
House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Henry Waxman, D-Calif., wants to ask Maj. Gen. George W. Weightman about a contract to manage the medical center awarded to a company that had documented troubles fulfilling a government contract to deliver ice to victims of Hurricane Katrina.
The Pentagon has refused to allow Weightman to testify. Waxman's staff has confirmed the congressman has issued his first subpoena as a committee chairman this session to legally compel Weightman's testimony.
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/19172
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It's about time. The Dems better get this straight. Voters in 2006 were angry at the country's direction. If they simply maintain the status quo, as they appear to be doing on iraq, voters will be equally disgusted with them in 2008. Then, we may get a very low turnout election in 2008. That favors the republicans.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 07:57 AM
New Mexico Impeachment Update
Submitted by davidswanson on Sat, 2007-03-03 00:43. Impeachment
3-2-07: "If we can get all the Democrats to show up, I think it has a reasonable chance of passing," says New Mexico State Senate staffer of Senate Joint Resolution 5, "petitioning Congress to commence the investigation of and impeachment proceedings against President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard B. Cheney" (Impeachment Channel #28)
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Impeach Da Chimp
Impeach Cheney
End the Iraq occupation
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 07:59 AM
Tom Hayden: Ending the Iraq War
Submitted by davidswanson on Fri, 2007-03-02 18:09. Video and Audio
VIDEO.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 08:00 AM
Harry Reid's tacit support for the Fox News-sponsored debate in Nevada seemed hard to beat.
But apparently this is his "f^^k Democrats" week, because the Senate had dibs on choosing the deliverer of the "Weekly Democratic Radio Address", and guess who got it?
Non-Democrat Joe Lieberman.
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You got be freaking kidding me.
Let me make it plain. Reid is a bad majority leader. Replace him with Dick Durbin.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 08:02 AM
So far, Lieberman is using his clout mostly in ways that discomfit his fellow Democrats, while his relationship with Republicans has involved more collaboration than coercion. When Senate majority leader Harry Reid said Bush's State of the Union proposal for a bipartisan terrorism panel was redundant, Lieberman, who supported the idea, privately sent Reid a letter saying he was "upset." Within days, Reid backed down and negotiated the panel's makeup with the White House. And last month, after Lieberman told Reid he had stopped attending the weekly Democratic lunch because he didn't feel comfortable discussing Iraq there, Reid offered to hold those discussions at another time. Lieberman has started attending again.
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Look, the hell with Lieberman. By the way, last week Levin called Lieberman a Democrat. Mr. Reid, Mr. Levin ... Lieberman is not a Democrat.
Okay, here's my challenge to Harry Reid and Howard Dean. You can Lieberman the microphone.
I want Bernie Sanders to get the microphone next week. He's way more of a Democrat than Lieberman will ever be. How about it?
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 08:06 AM
a done writ a poem!
rudy and mitt
and ann the zit
bathing together
in a tub of shit
Posted by gregg on March 3, 2007 at 08:22 AM
Governor Dean, excuse me, Free Speech is more important than your ego that says the Republican Party must denounce Coulter's remarks.
Who are you to demand another American be silenced? Her remarks are hateful, bigoted, and biased, but you are not a Judge of American values.
Let US evaluate as Free human beings. You are like Hillary, demanding someone be silenced "At Will".
Let Americans not demand silence but debate the insanity of her statements. Sir, you are not America's Parent. I have respected you, but on this I cannot concur! Let her speak, she will create her own demise! Her hate will devour her, soon her friends will distance themselves from this tyrade. Finally, she will fade away lonely.
Posted by dlesterpoet on March 3, 2007 at 08:52 AM
I could care less about Ann Coulter. What I care about is how stupid and weak the Democrats are on defunding Iraq, killing the Bush tax cuts, stopping trade deals that are giving away our middle class and our national security because we can't build shit for ourselves anymore. Then add in Reid, who gives Fox News the Nevada debate and Lieberman, the biggest whiny ass traitor up there, the Democratic radio address. Now add in DLC Hillary and Rupert Murdock in bed together raising money for her campaign. Gov. Dean, I am done with the Democratic Party. You said to take them back so we can take our country back - well it ain't going to happen. When Hillary gets crowned and they come take you away, I am cancelling my Democracy bond, too. "Same shit, different day" says it all about the state of the political process and governing in the United States. This is all one big farce, and I am done playing their game.
Posted by Oakland on March 3, 2007 at 09:22 AM
IN DEFENSE OF ANN COULTER, a CPAC Yippie....
She's possibly their best spokesperson...really keeps the party regulars in line with a proper Conservative view.
Why, look who's rising: Senator Schmiss & Angelina Giuliani ! Who could not vote for one of them. Can you imagine a CPAC Dream Ticket ?!?!!!
Holy Memes, Dean-man!! And they're BOTH former reformers before they were...what? (Not reformers!!?)
(Mitt, Mitt, Mitt, Mitt...) I'm so confused now....What can I say?
Dr. Dean, Governor! ...you really got it wrong this time, brother.
I mean, if you want to talk about civility and decency in discourse and character, you have to look very far and wide for someone who can oudo the hypocrisy, politicization of scientific truth and fact, reversal of regular accounting methods...and the lying, stealing, and killing for which CPAC proudly stands. I mean they're even disavowing Bu$h/Cheney&Co! Maybe Inhofe For President!
Posted by JohnUllmann on March 3, 2007 at 10:04 AM
rjsnj: "What's behind the conditions at Walter Reed?"
For one, it's a part of a larger picture of the poisonous change in command climate that started in 2001 when Rumsfeld became Secretary of Defense. It is pervasive, and the overall treatment of ALL military personnel and their dependents should be looked at by Congress.
Another symptom of the general disrespect of our soldiers that surfaced recently was the mistreatment of PTSD soldiers at Fort Carson CO. The chickens are now coming home to roost. I have a feeling that more and more of this type of "incidents" will start surfacing.
The little speech that Bush made about Walter Reed and him saying that he was "disturbed" about it was only a CYA kind of thing, since he started it all by appointing Donald Rumsfeld as Secretary of Defense in the first place. Gates has inherited this command climate, whether he works to change it or not remains to be seen.
If Bush really cared, he would have gotten angry, not just disturbed, and he would have started doing something when the scandal about Fort Carson was reported by NPR. Bush is "disturbed" all right. Mentally, that is.
For two, When Bush Daddy was president, they decided to close Walter Reed, and sell it cheap so their buddies could make money off of it. Then their buddies could turn around and make mega bucks off of it, because it's inside the beltway and is sitting on some very pricey land.
Much of the deterioration of the installation started, because one of the arguments that Bush administration was making was that "it would cost to much to repair." This in spite of a new hotel for outpatients being built, that a previous administration had funded.
From the description of the building that I read from the BBC, I think it's the the old hotel, and that it was probably sitting there neglected until the flood of disabled veterans from this War of Lies forced them to re-open it. They apparently
never bothered to bring the building up to standard, they just started dumping disable soldiers into it.
Bush is the Commander in Chief, and the "decider" and firing the current commandant, who had only been there for 6 months was window dressing. Putting the previous commandant in charge, who had done nothing was a bonehead move. Although, he may have tried to fix things previously and told to shut up.
Dealing with an unresponsive higher headquarters to try to fix something, and then getting blamed for the problem is a Rumsfeldian military trademark. Just ask Col Karpinsky of Abu Graib fame.
Posted by Butte on March 3, 2007 at 10:09 AM
Howard is correct here. And good manners go across the board as far as I'm concerned.
Democrats need to follow his lead and stop over reacting to what they know is coming and will get worse the closer we get to 2008. Don't debate it, simply decline to participate in vileness. (And when it comes to untruths, simply refer people to where they can find the truth. Enourage people to do their homework and not just believe what they hear.) I'd also like to suggest taking action by taking the lead and programming this site to treat as SPAM the most "vile rhetoric" we know needs to be out of bounds for civil discourse. And/or, be diligent about reporting it to the webmaster.
Posted by Northshorewoman on March 3, 2007 at 11:02 AM
ann coulter is pathetic. i am really do feel sorry for the adam's apple that resides in the same region of her body from where those ignorant words begin to spew.
Posted by godlessliberal on March 3, 2007 at 12:26 PM
Howard is correct here. And good manners go across the board as far as I'm concerned.
Democrats need to follow his lead and stop over reacting to what they know is coming and will get worse the closer we get to 2008. Don't debate it, simply decline to participate in vileness. (And when it comes to untruths, simply refer people to where they can find the truth. Enourage people to do their homework and not just believe what they hear.) I'd also like to suggest taking action by taking the lead and programming this site to treat as SPAM the most "vile rhetoric" we know needs to be out of bounds for civil discourse. And/or, be diligent about reporting it to the webmaster.
Posted by Northshorewoman on March 3, 2007 at 11:02 AM
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I was with you until:
I'd also like to suggest taking action by taking the lead and programming this site to treat as SPAM the most "vile rhetoric" we know needs to be out of bounds for civil discourse. And/or, be diligent about reporting it to the webmaster.
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You say you want this site to be filtered like in Red China, where You as Judge, can determine who shall have a voice. Civil discourse is anyone using Free Speech unabated. When you have people diligent about reporting it to the webmaster, they need to go to college and hear the true open dialog of learning. While one prefers to be civil to others, you cannot demand it by threats and Judging others, it is wrong.
People have Judged me, a Liberal, Yankee, Catholic, obscene, because I opened up eyes to thoughts. Yet, if you read my words, I exist beyond four letter words that demean others or myself.
Posted by dlesterpoet on March 3, 2007 at 02:09 PM
I say just let Ann Coulter keep making these kinds of bigotted slurs. Everytime she does, every moderate, well meaning conservative, the ones that we need to attract to our side, turns away in disgust. Let her continue to be a prominent conservative spokesperson. She'll be the perfect exemplar of the moral decline of the contemporary conservative movement. Her own star is waning anyways, hence the anger and bitterness.
Posted by tontocal on March 3, 2007 at 02:11 PM
And for the commenters here lamenting Gov. Dean's 'Stalinist' attitude in trying to silence Ms. Coulter; he did not say she should be 'silenced', he's simply asking for all well meaning Republicans (which I'm sure there are many) to denounce the remarks that she's made. Try reading the statement the next time.
Posted by tontocal on March 3, 2007 at 02:28 PM
Sure Ann Coulter can question Edwards' sexuality. It's a cheap shot that just shows how scared they are of his attractiveness and appeal. After all, he's gorgeous, articulate, effective, concerned for the needs of ordinary Americans, and has great plans for how to solve many of the country's pressing problems; all certainly effeminate characteristics-none of that manly macho militarily aggressive stuff. No wonder they're scared. But it's so shrill and desperate and obviously untrue, that one wonders whether Coulter hasn't outlived her usefulness. Or maybe the subsequent cheers and laughter was just the GOP being self-critical - remembering all their colleagues who've had to go into rehab for their sins!
Posted by JoshuasGrandma on March 3, 2007 at 03:27 PM
Dear delesterpoet,
I Hear your point, but good manners does not preclude the Right to Free Speech, nor does a community that would come to agree that the use of the top slurs be banned translate into any non-Democratic philosophy. It just seems to me that a declaration against vileness throughout the Election Process would be the right thing for the party to do and much more exciting than merely denouncing the opposition for it. At any rate, too much time spent on Coulter already.
Posted by Northshorewoman on March 3, 2007 at 03:32 PM
Tim Hardaway, the homophobic basketball player who was banned from the NBA All-Star game, should ask Ann Coulter out on a date.
They both have a lot in common.
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mrA, I didn't think of that one. LOL
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 04:00 PM
Joe Klein's 13 Signs of Left-Wing Extremism
by BooMan23
Sat Mar 03, 2007 at 11:17:55 AM PST
[From the Frog Pond]
Joe Klein helpfully defines the School of Higher Broderism's thinking on left-wing radicalism, and thereby defines the position of the Democratic Leadership Council.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/3/3/141121/5672
Joe Klein stinks.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 04:00 PM
BRAND HATE: Coulter, the Media and Right-Wing Rage
by Avenging Angel
Sat Mar 03, 2007 at 11:13:34 AM PST
That Ann Coulter would call Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards a "faggot" during a speech at one of conservatism's pre-eminent conclaves should come as no surprise. Mitt Romney's apparent refusal to disown Coulter's endorsement and the silence of the Republican cavalcade of candidates (John McCain, who didn't attend CPAC, notwithstanding) comes as no shock either.
And no one should be stunned by the almost complete lack of coverage of the Coulter slur from the mainstream media. After all, as I first suggested after Coulter slandered 9/11 widows last June, the media has already internalized this conservative brand of hate and takes it for granted. As I wrote then:
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 04:01 PM
Elizabeth Edwards responds
by pioneer111
Sat Mar 03, 2007 at 11:37:46 AM PST
I think Elizabeth Edwards is such a classy woman. John Edwards chose well when he asked her to marry him. Elizabeth responded to the Coulter remarks on the Edwards Blog with this entry. You can read the whole response at the link.
pioneer111's diary :: ::
Elizabeth begins her comments with
When Miss Coulter spoke about John at the conservative convention in Washington yesterday, she used a word that she intended as a nasty and derogatory suggestion. John and I have long ago shrugged off the vile words of this person.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 04:04 PM
I carried this over from the other blog. Do consevatives really hate being called the party of Lincoln? Weird!
The Party of Anybody But Lincoln
by Devilstower
Sat Mar 03, 2007 at 09:25:14 AM PST
With the Conservative Political Action Committee gathering winding down this weekend, you might think that calling John Edwards a 'faggot' would be the signature event of the conference. But while that clip will probably result mostly in more undeserved attention for the right's favorite harridan, there's another message from this week's events that is interesting for what it has to say about how these people view themselves. And where better to go for that view than the Fox News of papers, the Washington Times. After noting the ability of Giuliani to obscure his feelings over all the things that conservatives have been decrying for the last decade (unlike Santa's pal, this Rudolph spreads fog), Rev. Moon's paper notes the one thing that really brought the crowd down.
In interviews afterward, some attendees said Mr. Giuliani lost momentum when he heaped lavish praise on Abraham Lincoln.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 04:06 PM
Parties of God
The Bush Doctrine and the rise of Islamic democracy
Posted on Thursday, March 1, 2007. Two excerpts from this month's Harper's Magazine. Originally from March 2007. By Ken Silverstein.
http://www.harpers.org/PartiesOfGod.html
Good article on Islamic parties that are deeply rooted in their countries. We need to understand this better.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 04:22 PM
HUBERT HUMPHREY'S GHOST CALLED ME AND TOLD ME THIS IS NOW THE OPEN THREAD FOR THE WEEKEND OR UNTIL A NEW THREAD IS CREATED.
Posted by gregg on March 3, 2007 at 05:03 PM
AND FDR CHANNELED PAUL SAGAN WHO WANTS ALL EASTERNERS TO KNOW......
In the United States, much of the eclipse takes place before moonrise. Even so, the eastern half of the country will enjoy a good view of totality. Observing tips: At the end of the day on Saturday, go outside and face east. As the sun sets behind your back, a red Moon will rise before your eyes--fantastic! Maximum eclipse is at 6:21 p.m. EST.
Posted by gregg on March 3, 2007 at 05:05 PM
uhhhh that would be carl sagan....paul being a buster brown shoe salesman from kansas city...
Posted by gregg on March 3, 2007 at 05:07 PM
2006 Congressional Vote Ratings Released
I'm going to spoil the big surprise up front: Barack Obama is more liberal than Dennis Kucinich.
Posted by fade2bluz on March 3, 2007 at 05:07 PM
2006 Congressional Vote Ratings Released
I'm going to spoil the big surprise up front: Barack Obama is more liberal than Dennis Kucinich.
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fade, interesting but how is that measured?
Barack Obama only has a couple of years in the Senate compared to a considerably longer time in the House for Kucinich.
I really dislike these rating systems anyway.
What I want to know is positions on issues. On the two issues I am most concerned about, Iraq and health care, I want to know where all the candidates stand.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 05:17 PM
i see the vermin are out of their cages early this evening...perhaps the zoo ran out of kibble and decided to let them forage in the sewers?
Posted by gregg on March 3, 2007 at 05:19 PM
Senator Barack Obama: 84.3
Representative Dennis Kucinich: 79.4
Senator Christopher J. Dodd: 79.2
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton: 78.8
Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr.: 76.8
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Whoa! Something is definitely fishy here. Does this NYT political blog? honestly want to convince us that Kucinich is only slightly more liberal than Dodd and Clinton. Not plausible.
Here;s a simple test. If Clinton, Biden and Obama were in the House would they even be members of the Progressive Caucus? By the way, Kucinich founded the Progressive Caucus along with Bernie Sanders.
I sense some disembling going on here ...
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 05:20 PM
Edwards Campaign: "Shame on Ann Coulter"
by NCDem Amy
Sat Mar 03, 2007 at 08:27:59 AM PST
Many of you have already seen the video of Ann Coulter at the CPAC Conference where in her attempt to trash Democratic Presidential Candidate John Edwards, she employed the most despicable form of hate language. What is even more disturbing is that her comment was received by applause.
This type of bigotry should be shunned and that is precisely what the Edwards campaign has done.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/3/3/10483/52870
Yes let;'s all understand Ann Coulter:
She's a bigot.
She's a hate monger.
She's paid big bucks to be a bigoted hate monger by the Reich Wing.
Got it?
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 05:24 PM
Well, now they weigh in:
Romney and McCain campaigns attack Coulter for calling John Edwards a "faggot"
by John Aravosis (DC) · 3/03/2007 12:05:00 PM ET
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Note to corporate media: This is news, that's n-e-w-s.
The GOP presidential candidates have begun to weigh in over Ann Coulter's outrageously bigoted comments yesterday at the largest conservative conference of the year. Coulter was the putative keynote speaker of the entire event - her speech was the most widely anticipated of all, according to those who attended. Here's what McCain's camp (McCain didn't even attend the conference, yet they weighed in) and Romney's camp (he did attend) had to say, per the NYT blog, since the real media refuses to cover this story:
Democrats were not the only denouncing Ms. Coulter. “The comments were wildly inappropriate,” said Brian Jones, a spokesman for Senator John McCain, a Republican candidate for president who did not attend.
Kevin Madden, a spokesman for Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, said: “It was an offensive remark. Governor Romney believes all people should be treated with dignity and respect....
....attendees said that Ms. Coulter not only spoke warmly about Mr. Romney but all but endorsed him. No word yet on whether the Romney campaign was taking the endorsement or, acceding to Mr. Dean’s demands that he “denounce her hateful remarks.
http://americablog.blogspot.com/2007/03/romney-and-mccain-campaigns-attack.html
It would seem no one luvs Ann Coulter. But, she doesn;t care. Coulter, Limbaugh, Malkin are all part of the GOP hate machine. They have their purpose and they are making lots of bucks.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 05:29 PM
At GOP fundraiser, Bush politicizes support for troops on the very day his Secretary of the Army gets canned for the Walter Reed scandal
by Joe Sudbay (DC) · 3/03/2007 10:06:00 AM ET
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How can the Washington Post print this article and not note the hypocrisy? Bush was giving a political speech about supporting the troops while the Army is enmeshed in a major scandal for not taking care of wounded troops. Bush talks about support for the troops. But talk is very, very cheap from George Bush:
Speaking to a dinner crowd at the century-old Seelbach Hilton Louisville Hotel, Bush defended his decision to send more troops to Iraq. He also criticized those in Congress who oppose the plan, saying, "They have a solemn responsibility to support those who wear the uniform of the United States."
George Bush has had a solemn responsibility to support those who wear the uniform of the United States. He hasn't. And, he can't get away with it.
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Impeach Da Chimp
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 05:31 PM
Republican economics at work - foreclosures and loan defaults
by Chris in Paris · 3/03/2007 05:28:00 AM ET
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But that's OK, because heaven forbid anyone ever offers regulation because the finance industry that is taking the system to the verge of a crash might not like it. The MIA Republicans have made it their gospel to allow industry - any industry that's willing to fork over campaign cash - to self regulate, telling supporters that government regulation only complicates matters and that the government has made a mess of everything. Take one guess who will be first in line with their hands out, asking for money when the system they built comes crashing down?
While the housing market was soaring, lenders shrugged off borrowers' problems because the value of the property was rising. But now that the housing market is in a tailspin in some areas, as many as 2.2 million people could end up losing their homes, worth a total of $164 billion, according to CRL. Another report, by Lehman Brothers, concluded that as many as 30 percent of people who obtained subprime loans in 2006 may end up defaulting on them.
"Many families are going to lose their homes," says Deborah Goldstein, executive vice president of the CRL in Durham, N.C. "There's a need for federal regulators to address the kinds of abusive mortgage practices that we're seeing."
Last fall federal regulators started to step in, requiring lenders to disclose more clearly the benefits and risks of some subprime loans to borrowers. On Tuesday, Freddie Mac, a quasi-public backer of home loans, announced it would cease purchasing the riskiest subprime mortgages. This week, Fannie Mae, another quasi-public housing organization, said it is working on "rescue" products to try to help troubled borrowers.
Housing advocates believe the regulators are reacting too late. "They're good positive steps but it's not close to being enough – the genie's already out of the bottle," says Mr. Rheingold. "What we're seeing now with the incredibly high foreclosure rates ... is a product of the complete deregulation of the mortgage industry over the last 10 to 15 years."
Republican economics at work and another case study in how to give the shaft to consumers while coddling political donors.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 05:32 PM
UPI and FOX cover Coulter calling John Edwards a "faggot," but AP, Wash Post and NYT nowhere to be found
by John Aravosis (DC) · 3/03/2007 12:14:00 AM ET
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None of the "normal" media (meaning, non-FOX and non-UPI) is touching this story with a ten foot poll. Why is that? It's not like Ann Coulter isn't a big deal. Like it or not, she was on the cover of TIME just, what, a year or two ago? She's a bigot, a loud-mouth, and a jerk, but to write her off as irrelevant is simply a lie. Here is UPI's coverage.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 05:34 PM
Ann Coulter == Representative of the GOP
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 05:35 PM
A February 14 United Nations report on the well-being of children in 21 wealthy countries ranks the United States last in health and safety. When it comes to health care for the entire population, a World Health Organization 2001 study of 191 countries ranks the United States 37th. The countries that lead the list-France, Spain, Italy-have single payer health care. How long can we hang on to the myth that corporations are more efficient when Medicare's overhead is less than 4 percent, while insurance companies keep 15 percent to 25 percent of healthcare dollars for overhead and profit?
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Last! That's a freakin disgrace. Impeach Da Chimp. It;s clear to me what's going on - the eopublicans have cannibalized our economy into a permanent war time economy for the military/industrial complex's gain.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 05:39 PM
A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own.
The origin of the word bigot in English dates back to at least 1598, via Middle French, and started with the sense of "religious hypocrite", especially a woman. Bigot is often used as a pejorative term against a person who is obstinately devoted to their prejudices even when these views are challenged or proven to be false.
Forms of bigotry may have a related ideology or world views.
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Got it?
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 05:43 PM
Contractor Could Lose $400 million
By Jay Price
The News & Observer
Friday 02 March 2007
Military contracting giant KBR Inc. could be docked up to $400 million for improperly using private security companies in Iraq, the company disclosed this week.
The Army has already said it withheld about $20 million in payments to KBR's parent company, Halliburton, because the company's subcontractors used private security contractors, including North Carolina-based Blackwater USA. Army officials have said that private security companies were not allowed under Halliburton's main contract in Iraq and that the military was to provide security.
The Army began looking into the use of private security firms by KBR's subcontractors after a congressional investigation sparked by a series of stories in The News & Observer. KBR has won billions in contracts to provide troops in Iraq with basic needs.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 05:43 PM
Doug Feith Versus the Blogosphere
By David Swanson
t r u t h o u t | Guest Contributor
Saturday 03 March 2007
Interview of Allison Hantschel taken from transcripts. Original transcription here.
AUDIO 30 Minutes: http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/downloads/allison.mp3
David: This is David Swanson with Allison Hantschel, the blogger of the blog site, First Draft http://www.first-draft.com , and the author of the book "Special Plans, the blogs on Douglas Feith and the faulty intelligence that led us to war." Allison, it is good to talk to you. How are you doing?
Allison: I'm doing good; thank you so much for having me.
David: And how did you get involved in the topic of Douglas Feith and the intelligence that took us into this war?
Allison: Well, essentially what happened was almost two years ago now, I was working as a newspaper reporter, and I was in my spare time writing a blog at First Draft, and I had gotten an e-mail one day from the editor of the series of books of which "Special Plans" is a part, the "Informed Citizen" series, and the editor of this series had asked me are you interested in doing a book for us, and what might you be interested in writing about. At the time, some of the information about just how bad the prewar planning and intelligence had been was just starting to come out. I thought it was a really fascinating topic, that here is a person who had his hand in almost every major important mistake that took place before the war, and I really wanted to delve into that further, and as I explored more and more material from the bloggers mentioned in the book, I just found so many things that now I think people are only becoming aware of, that a lot of the people who write for these blogs have known all along.
David: So who is this guy briefly, Doug Feith? I mean, he looks like a nice enough guy on TV; you see him on there all the time. I saw him within the past couple of weeks chatting away with Charlie Rose, and he seemed like a very friendly guy with a lot of integrity who was trying to protect our political process from those who would harm it and so forth, and I did not hear any views to the contrary. Who is he?
Allison: He was during the second Bush administration. I should specify, he was the undersecretary of defense for policy, and in that position, he was in charge of setting up essentially his own intelligence office. Essentially, he was running an operation, and the reason that you see him on television, just to backtrack little bit ... is an inspector general's report from the Pentagon came out on February 11, 2007, that essentially stated that Feith was running a separate intelligence operation within the Pentagon to make the case that Iraq was collaborating with al-Qaeda.
[That IG report indicated] that Feith himself issued analyses of intelligence that were at odds with numerous intelligence agencies, and that he bypassed those agencies and other officials to present his own version of the facts to the executive branch, and that he dismissed, downplayed or ignored evidence contrary to the story that he wanted to tell. That story really is one that kind of has its roots in Feith's own sort of ideological upbringing, and he was mentored by Richard Perle, who is an adviser to the administration. He and Perle and most other prominent members of the administration were at one time either ideological allies or actually members of the Project for a New American Century: a think tank that formed in the late 1990s in response to President Clinton's foreign policy.
The Project for a New American Century consisted of a bunch of conservatives who were out of power, took a look at what Clinton was doing, and decided this is not the way to go. The policy that they pushed was one of remaking the Middle East in an American democratic model, whether those countries wanted it or not, because this would be vital to American national security. Out of that whole sort of ideological background, Feith came into the administration and after September 11th began making the case that Iraq and al-Qaeda were collaborators and that as such, Iraq presented a threat to the United States.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 05:44 PM
New Orleans Asks Whopping $77 Billion in Claim to Corps
By Michelle Krupa and Susan Finch
The Times-Picayune
Friday 02 March 2007
Submitting a claim for a staggering $77 billion, the city of New Orleans joined tens of thousands of would-be plaintiffs who rushed to beat a Thursday deadline to alert the Army Corps of Engineers that they may sue for losses resulting from the levee breaches after Hurricane Katrina.
Also joining the queue were Entergy New Orleans, the city's bankrupt electrical utility, which is seeking $655 million, and the New Orleans Sewerage & Water Board, which put in a claim of about $460 million, spokesmen for the agencies said.
While they are likely to be among the largest filed, the three claims became part of an avalanche of paperwork that poured into the corps' Leake Avenue headquarters as Thursday's 11:59 p.m. deadline approached, corps personnel said.
By the time of the morning commute, cars already had clogged the two-lane River Road and miles of connecting arteries. The miles-long traffic jam got so thick that the federal agency established satellite pick-up points on Carrollton Avenue and Magazine Street.
"We took people out of offices to help out: engineers, lawyers, secretaries, you name it," spokesman Chris Accardo said. "At one time, we might have had 50 people out there."
Hours before the cut-off time, enough bags and boxes of claim forms had arrived to fill an 8-by-10-foot room, corps spokeswoman Kathy Gibbs said.
The filing bonanza would have been unthinkable just a few weeks ago.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 05:45 PM
White House Backed US Attorney Firings, Officials Say
By John Solomon and Dan Eggen
The Washington Post
Saturday 03 March 2007
The White House approved the firings of seven U.S. attorneys late last year after senior Justice Department officials identified the prosecutors they believed were not doing enough to carry out President Bush's policies on immigration, firearms and other issues, White House and Justice Department officials said yesterday.
The list of prosecutors was assembled last fall, based largely on complaints from members of Congress, law enforcement officials and career Justice Department lawyers, administration officials said.
One of the complaints came from Sen. Pete V. Domenici (R-N.M.), who specifically raised concerns with the Justice Department last fall about the performance of then-U.S. Attorney David C. Iglesias of New Mexico, according to administration officials and Domenici's office.
Iglesias has alleged that two unnamed New Mexico lawmakers pressured him in October to speed up the indictments of Democrats before the elections. Domenici has declined to comment on that allegation.
Since the mass firings were carried out three months ago, Justice Department officials have consistently portrayed them as personnel decisions based on the prosecutors' "performance-related" problems. But, yesterday, officials acknowledged that the ousters were based primarily on the administration's unhappiness with the prosecutors' policy decisions and revealed the White House's role in the matter.
"At the end of the day, this was a decision to pick the prosecutors we felt would most effectively carry out the department's policies and priorities in the last two years," said Justice Department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse.
Officials portrayed the firings as part of a routine process, saying the White House did not play any role in identifying which U.S. attorneys should be removed or encourage the dismissals. The administration previously said that the White House counsel recommended a GOP replacement for one U.S. attorney, in Arkansas, but did not say that the White House approved the seven other firings.
"If any agency wants to make a change regarding a presidential appointee, they run that change by the White House counsel's office," said White House spokeswoman Dana Perino. "That is standard operating procedure, and that is what happened here. The White House did not object to the Justice Department decision."
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 05:46 PM
You all heard about bush and rice. I heard that bush, cheney and coldsore are getting it on.
hannity and limpballs got there late but they piled on each other.
Posted by Johnedwrd on March 3, 2007 at 05:46 PM
Ann Coulter == Representative of GOP
Coulter is a fine representative of GOP attitudes and philosophy.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 05:47 PM
A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own.
so rjsnj if we were nazis and we called each other bigots because were intolerant of jews it would be a nice thing. makes perfect sense...to nazis.
Posted by gregg on March 3, 2007 at 05:48 PM
Democrats Send Out First Round of Subpoenas
By Susan Crabtree
The Hill
Thursday 01 March 2007
A House Judiciary subcommittee approved today the first in what is expected to be an avalanche of subpoenas to Bush administration officials. They will likely explore corruption and mismanagement allegations on everything from pre-war Iraq intelligence to the mishandling of the response to Hurricane Katrina.
The first round of subpoenas concern the recent controversial firings by the Bush administration of seven U.S. attorneys, some of whom were pursuing public corruption cases against Republican members of Congress.
The House Judiciary subcommittee on commercial and administrative law, chaired by Rep. Linda Sanchez (D-Calif.), approved subpoenas requiring four former U.S. attorneys to appear at a subcommittee hearing next Tuesday. The former U.S. attorneys include Carol Lam of California, David Iglesias of New Mexico, H.E. Cummins III of Arkansas, and John McKay of Washington state. The subcommittee approved the subpoenas by voice vote; no Republican lawmakers were present.
Tuesday's hearing will consider a bill by Rep. Howard Berman (D-Calif.) that would reverse a new Patriot Act provision allowing the attorney general to appoint federal prosecutors without Senate confirmation through the duration of the Bush administration.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 05:54 PM
CNN just reporting on the Conservative meeting just ending, that the votes amongst them for favorite Republican candidate was Romney. Guiliani second. McCain came in 5th I really don't know how they expect Romney to have electibility, when their Religious Base of Fundies HATE mormoms.
Posted by PamB on March 3, 2007 at 05:54 PM
so rjsnj if we were nazis and we called each other bigots because were intolerant of jews it would be a nice thing. makes perfect sense...to nazis.
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gregg ... LOL.
Makes sense to Nazis, GOOPERS and Ann Coulter.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 05:55 PM
Climate Change Impact More Extensive Than Thought
By Volker Mrasek
Der Spiegel
Friday 02 March 2007
Global climate change is happening faster than previously believed and its impact is worse than expected, information from an as-yet unpublished draft of the long-awaited second part of a United Nations report obtained by SPIEGEL ONLINE reveals. No region of the planet will be spared and some will be hit especially hard.
Is the world's weather already out of control? Is the pollution of the past decades having an impact on the present? That's exactly what the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change fears: Human influences over the last 30 years "have had a recognizable effect on many physical and biological systems," write the authors of the as yet unreleased second part of the 2007 global climate change report.
According to information obtained by SPIEGEL ONLINE, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is convinced global warming is already making the world sweat. At least that's the gist of the "Summary for Policymakers" from the group made up of hundreds of scientists.
The second part of the report is to be presented in April in Brussels after final discussions with government representatives from around the globe. The meta-study is certain to have a major political impact on the ongoing debate about climate change.
Mounting Evidence: Climate Change is Happening Now
The main conclusion of the report is that climate change is already having a profound effect on all the continents and on many of the Earth's ecosystems. The draft presents a long list of evidence:
Glacial lakes are increasing in both size and number, potentially leading to deadly floods
Permafrost in mountainous regions and at high latitudes is warming increasing the danger of land slides.
As the temperature of rivers and lakes rises, their thermal stratification and water quality is changing.
River currents, affected by melting glaciers and ice, are speeding up during the spring.
Springtime is starting earlier, causing plants to bloom earlier and changing the migrations of birds.
Many plants and animals are expanding their habitats into mountainous regions and higher latitudes that are becoming milder.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 05:57 PM
CNN just reporting on the Conservative meeting just ending, that the votes amongst them for favorite Republican candidate was Romney.
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Pam,
Romney is very beatable. Flip-Flop Mitt, Flip-Flop Mitt.
Giuliani is their best candidate but the religious righties won't have him.
So, McWindVane only came in 5th!
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 05:59 PM
You all heard about bush and rice. I heard that bush, cheney and coldsore are getting it on.
hannity and limpballs got there late but they piled on each other.
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John please not before dinner! LOL
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 06:01 PM
Nickels Warns US Senate to Not Rein In Cities Fighting Global Warming
By Charles Pope
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer
Friday 02 March 2007
Washington - Mayor Greg Nickels told a Senate committee Thursday that state and local governments are leading the fight against global warming, and he warned Congress against reining in local efforts that are under way across the nation.
"We are not just signing a piece of paper," Nickels told the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee.
"We are making tough choices. We are investing our taxpayers' money. We are transforming our cities into laboratories for climate protection. In short, we are making a difference, and laying the groundwork for strong federal policies and programs."
Nickels, who testified along with New Jersey Gov. John Corzine, the Democratic leaders of the California Legislature and other mayors, said the federal government can help by providing money for research and broad guidelines for curbing pollution that causes climate change.
But Nickels and other local officials warned Congress against passing legislation that would undercut aggressive programs in Seattle, New Jersey, California and other areas.
Nickels said Congress should pass a plan "that calls for a hard and declining cap on emissions and allows for carbon trading among entities."
He also said that cities and states should be eligible for federal grants that underwrite innovative programs and research.
"We need the federal government to take on a leadership role now so that we move beyond the grass-roots innovation that is blossoming in every state in the country," he said.
Nickels' appearance came as Congress, after years of largely ignoring the issue, has been moving aggressively to draft legislation to reduce pollution that is believed to cause global warming. Thursday's hearing was designed to examine state and local programs that would contribute to federal legislation.
States and cities, said the committee's chairwoman, Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., "are leading the way for the rest of the nation. They understand what is at stake for our future, and they are sending us a signal that we should heed."
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 06:04 PM
Union-Busting as Homeland Security
By Dick Meister
TomPaine.com
Thursday 01 March 2007
President Bush and his Republican allies in Congress agree that airport screeners play a vital role in the war against terror, yet continue to deny them the basic right of unionization by asserting that it would "threaten national security."
The actual motive is as obvious as the often-demonstrated anti-unionism of Bush and friends. House members recognized that in January when they voted 299-128 for a bill that would repeal a provision of the five-year-old Aviation Transportation and Security Act that gives the president authority to bar screeners from exercising the collective bargaining rights granted other federal employees.
Posted by rjsnj on March 3, 2007 at 06:05 PM
Guess this is serving as the open thread...
I'm glad that folks are upset with Coulter. The word "faggot" is a slur, whether a person is or is not gay.
However, being assumed or alluded to as simply gay is not negative.
I wonder if the Democratic Party is more upset at the use of the slur "faggot" because it is derogatory and unacceptable or because their good looking Wonder Boy was painted as gay.
The party (i.e. Edward's fundraising email and the Dean post above) can't even bring itself to say the words gay, lesbian, or even homosexual (we won't even get into the transgender/transsexual issue) in its public statements.
Being gay isn't a bad thing and this party needs to get over that fear, but using derogatory language towards anyone is bad and should be condemned.
So, when I posted at the beginning of this thread "good for Dean," I was simply pleased to see anything related to anything gay mentioned front and center here.
What would really be nice is for the DNC to condemn the hate crimes that are occuring with more frequency. It's not uncommon for us to hear the slur "faggot" as we are being beaten. There's a connection between that kind of talk and acting violently against minorities. This should have been mentioned.
Posted by ProudSelfishHedonist on March 3, 2007 at 06:10 PM
Religious Base of Fundies HATE mormoms
I get the feeling they are getting desperate enough to simply take whoever hates the most. Hate bring in cash and that's all that matters to them.
Posted by ProudSelfishHedonist on March 3, 2007 at 06:13 PM
Oakland i was reading your post about the party,dean and that you left. I personally hope you'll reconsider and come back and renew your democracy bond because this isn't dean's fault we're in this mess,this is the DLC and the blue dogs who are responsible.
And you also said same crap different day and not playing games,well i'm not playing games either,why isn't no one anywhere taking a stand against the DLC and the blug dogs they should be called out and be removed from the party.
If this party needs any changes then we must elected progressives and be part of the movement so we don't have to deal with the DLC'ers or blue dogs etc.
So let's be the voice,be the community and be the change and turn the party back to our roots,back to our base and back to the left let's stand up and rise up. The challenge is out there for everyone.
Posted by ap215 on March 3, 2007 at 06:19 PM
And you also said same crap different day and not playing games,well i'm not playing games either,why isn't no one anywhere taking a stand against the DLC and the blug dogs they should be called out and be removed from the party.
If this party needs any changes then we must elected progressives and be part of the movement so we don't have to deal with the DLC'ers or blue dogs etc.
So let's be the voice,be the community and be the change and turn the party back to our roots,back to our base and back to the left let's stand up and rise up. The challenge is out there for everyone.Posted by ap215 on March 3, 2007 at 06:19 PM
ap
Somebody IS doing something about it. The supporters of Ned Lamont are all Progressives, and a new website will be officially open for business on Mon or tuesday. Take a look. Plus I will be posting it more than once in the days to come:
Posted by PamB on March 3, 2007 at 06:31 PM
Another Look at Disapproval of Coulter:
Coulter tells conservatives, 'I was going to have a few comments about John Edwards but you have to go into rehab if you use the word faggot' Adam Dupont
At Americablog, John Aravosis posted a press release issued by HRC, the largest gay civil rights organization in the United States, which calls on Vice President Cheney and 2008 Republican presidential candidates to "condemn" Coulter's remarks.
"To interject this word into American political discourse is a vile and disgusting way to sink the debate to a new, all-time low,” Human Rights Campaign President Joe Solmonese said in the statement. “Make no doubt about it, these remarks go directly against what our Founding Fathers intended and have no place on the schoolyard, much less our country’s political arena."
“It is clear that some in the Republican Party plan to run in 2008 the same way they did in 2004, by using discrimination to divide the country and rally their base,” said Solmonese. “But, 2008 is not 2004, and this time the politics of fear and smear will not work. The American people are tired of those who would rather divide than unite.”
Salmonese added, "We demand that every single Presidential candidate in attendance at this conference, along with Vice President Cheney stand up and publicly condemn this type of gutter-style politics."
Malkin disapproves, New York Times 'blogs it'
Editor and Publisher has a rundown of disapproving comments by conservative bloggers, including conservative columnist and blogger Michelle Malkin, and reports on media coverage of Coulter's use of the "other f-word."
Editor and Publisher report: "Ed Morrissey on his Captain's Quarters blog wrote: 'Yeah, that's just what CPAC needs -- an association with homophobia. Nice work, Ann.' Michelle Malkin expressed disapproval, and at her Hot Air site regular contributor 'Bryan' wrote: 'I’m no fan of John Edwards, but that’s just a stupid joke. It’s over the line. The laughter it generated across the room was more than a little annoying. Last year it was 'raghead.' This year it’s calling John Edwards a 'faggot.' Two years in a row, Coulter has finished up an otherwise sharp CPAC routine with an obnoxious slur that liberals will fling at conservatives for years to come. Thanks, Ann.'"
"Ann Coulter can be an entertaining and incisive wit," Morrissey added at Captain's Quarters. "Unfortunately, she can also be a loose cannon, and CPAC might want to consider that the next time around."
At her blog, Malkin wrote, "Ann Coulter just finished her riff on Al Gore, tossed out some cute jokes ('You can understand why Hollywood is concerned about global warming. You know what heat does to plastic.'), and ended with a cheap one-liner about John Edwards being a 'faggot.' (Paraphrasing) She said she would refrain from commenting on Edwards because 'if you say faggot, you have to go to rehab.' A smattering of laughter. Not from this corner. Crickets chirping."
Editor and Publisher also notes that the Associated Press, the New York Times and the Washington Post all ignored Coulter's "anti-gay slur" in their news reports, but that the Post's Dana Milbank did refer to it.
"The Post's Dana Milbank, in a column for the Saturday paper, observed: 'Ann Coulter used an anti-gay slur to describe John Edwards (the line drew applause) and asked: 'Did A

