Thursday Open Thread
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let investigations flow down like water
and indictments as a mighty stream...
Good morning Dems. Time for the Pugs to pay. Press for justice. Let the truth radiate.
Good morning everyone, I'm struggling a bit this morning to find a positive focus for the rest of the day.
Walked into my son's daycare this morning and was told that one of the babies was killed this week by her stepmother. I just wanted to take my son's hand, walk back out and head straight home to hug him all day. Of course he would never stand for all that mushy stuff.
Then to add to the already less than upbeat state of mind I spent an hour on the train listening to two police (one FBI one city cop) reminisce about the good old days of 9/11.
Father turns his grief into action
The United States is entering the fifth year of its violent, failed occupation of Iraq, longer than the U.S. was involved in World War II. Through the grimly deepening quagmire, a strengthening, pervasive U.S. anti-war movement is emerging. An increasingly powerful voice comes from soldiers and their families, turning grief into action. Take the Arredondo family.
kristen, sounds like you need to scrub your brain. awful stuff to hear. sometimes i think there should be a licensing process to go thru before having a child.
Kristen,
Please only draw good thoughts. Focusing on the negative will only bring negative.
Will you post us a funny?
remember when "big time" told senator leahy to "f" himself. payback is rich:
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee said he doesn't care what the White House and Justice Department think of his subpoenas -- he wants answers.
gonna see if i can find this on cspan.
oh yeah, party time on the u.s. attorneys at:
http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan2_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS2
fun on a rainy day
Hugo Chávez Is Tied to Giuliani Firm
Rudolph W. Giuliani’s law firm has lobbied for years on behalf of an oil company controlled by the Venezuelan president, Hugo Chávez, a strident critic of President Bush and American-style capitalism.
Lobbyists take in record amount in 2006
Even a bad year for lobbyists isn’t too bad.
Es, I'm working on pulling myself out of this funk. I'm expecting a very busy day at work so that should help.
As for a funny, my favorite David Horsey seems to be on vacation we haven't had a new one from him for two weeks.
esmeralda, yes as an aggressive new york type hooker ghouliani is working all sides of the street...
cspan is really good right now.
One more, then I'm gonzo for a bit.
Enjoy the morning, everyone
Dozens in GOP Turn Against Bush's Prized 'No Child' Act
More than 50 GOP members of the House and Senate -- including the House's second-ranking Republican -- will introduce legislation today that could severely undercut President Bush's signature domestic achievement, the No Child Left Behind Act, by allowing states to opt out of its testing mandates.
Good Enough to Die for the Cause or Not?
"Well, I am going to leave that to others to conclude."
Hillary's response to a direct question about whether homosexuality was immoral.
Then a spokesbot follows with some CYA:
Clinton's spokesman, Philippe Reins, said the New York senator "obviously" disagrees with Pace and that everyone, including the general, "has the right to be wrong, but should not inject their personal beliefs into public policy."
In the Obama camp, this came out (no pun intended):
On Wednesday, Newsday repeatedly asked Obama if same-sex relationships were immoral.
"I think traditionally the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman has restricted his public comments to military matters," said Obama, leaving Capitol Hill. "That's probably a good tradition to follow."
He turned the conversation to opposition to the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy: "I think the question here is whether somebody is willing to sacrifice for their country."
Later, an Obama spokesman said the senator, in fact, disagrees with Pace.
Apparently, they're afraid of offending some black folks:
Clinton and Obama supporters, speaking on condition of anonymity, said both might have been trying to avoid offending socially conservative Democrats, particularly churchgoing African-Americans, who share Pace's views.
Hey, don't talk to me about being afraid to offend black folks. Almost all of my office, including my supervisor, is black, and I just came out the other day to two more people in my office. Trust me, ya'll don't know diddly about fear.
What's weird is that the Puggies are kicking Pace's butt over his stupid comments.
Senator John Warner (R-VA) came right out of the box the other day and strongly rebuked General Peter Pace's remarks that homosexuality is immoral:
"I respectfully but strongly disagree with the chairman's view that homosexuality is immoral."
Hey, Dems, are we good enough to die for this country that treats us like second-class and sometimes no-class citizens or are we not?
Make up your minds...get there.
Or in the now infamous words of your own Golden Boy, John Edwards, I just don't think "I'm there yet" on voting for a Democrat.
I had the balls to put my job and livelihood, and perhaps even my life, on the line this week by coming out and being honest. It's time this party grows a pair or you don't deserve to represent GLBT community.
ok, so this isn't a comic but I still thought it was funny. :)
Conrad Black's lawyer gets on wrong side of judge
He told the New York Times that he intends to frame the document and hang it in his Toronto office. He quipped that he was "so stupid" that "no matter how incompetent I may be, Conrad can't rely on it" as an excuse.
Judge St Eve told him: "You have reportedly made a statement that I've certified you as stupid. I don't know if you made that statement but it is patently wrong."
kay hutchface of texas is on cspan demonstrating her capacity to eat fifty pounds of polish kielbasi in under two minutes...its amazing!
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed confesses to masterminding 9/11 attacks.
Silly me. And here I was thinking it was Saddam Hussein. After all, that's what the Bush Administration has been telling me all along.
Thanks Terry. I'm sorry to start the tread off on such a down note.
I love it.
We have this guy Khalid Sheik Mohammed and we coerce him into confessing to doing every heinous act against America. It's just a little implausible.
I'm wondering if this is just an excuse to justify our failure to catch Osama bin Laden. Or perhaps there's another motive: maybe we want bin Laden out there running amok. We used him to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan, funding him and giving him weapons.
Somehow I can't help but think this is somehow related to the recent Seymour Hersh article in the New Yorker:
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/03/05/070305fa_fact_hersh
I still believe the war in Iraq is a mistake, our troops need to be withdrawn and we need to go after bin Laden.
Developing Story on CNN
The Senate Judiciary Committee approved by voice vote today the use of subpoenas to compel testimony from five Justice Department officials about the firings of eight U.S. attorneys
Alexander, if it's any consolation 74% of those that took the CNN poll don't believe Khalid Sheik Mohammed is guilty of all the claims either.
Hi Blue.
Alexander,
I tend to agree that the confession as a whole is a tad implausible. But I believe that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed had his prints all over 9/11, although he was not alone in that regard.
I also agree totally on Iraq. It never was part of the War on Terror. It was on the wish list of Bush and his minions, and they exploited 9/11 to get it when they otherwise would have had no chance of getting the American public to go along.
Bush's post-verdict expression of sympathy for Libby and his family seemed like a standard cliché, but think about it: Bush is expressing sympathy for a convicted criminal - not, say, for someone who died a tragic death.
Moreover, this display of empathy for a convicted criminal was especially striking coming from President Bush. As Governor, Bush engaged in what one nun called "cruel mimicry of [a] woman whose death he had authorized": Parodying the clemency plea of Karla Faye tucker, Bush whimpered, his lips pursed in mock desperation, "Please, please, don't kill me." With President Bush not normally given to public displays of empathy for convicted criminals, his pro-Scooter statement is a noteworthy glimpse into his thoughts.
In short, Bush clearly doesn't like the Libby conviction. In addition, we know Cheney doesn't either - and neither does the Republican establishment, which funded a multi-million dollar "Scooter Libby Legal Defense Fund." Finally, and just as importantly, we know this Administration, whether one likes it or not, will take unpopular actions when it feels strongly about something. All this powerfully militates in favor of predicting a presidential pardon for Libby.
Blue, I would think the Libby verdict might have these guys a but worried. What are the chances he will start talking in exchange for little to no jail time?
way off topic but this is a great site for those interested in the most recent data on human's migration out of africa. lots of fun graphics and so on:
Kristen, slim to none, I believe. He knows he's getting a pardon for taking the fall. Heck, he'll probably get a medal of honor. The Bush crime family is similar to the mob: you keep your nose clean, you get stomped. You commit a crime, you get rewarded.
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A new Pentagon report says some elements of the war in Iraq fit the definition of civil war, but the term "does not adequately capture the complexity of the conflict."
The report cites Shiite-on-Shiite violence; al Qaeda and Sunni insurgent attacks on coalition forces, and "widespread criminally motivated violence" as features that complicate the designation of civil war.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/03/15/iraq.main/index.html
Let me clear it up for the slow learners at the Pentagon: the reason for the complexity is that most "civil wars" do not have third-party interference which caused the "civil war" in the first place. They not only hate eachother, they have the commonality of hating the U.S. involvement as well.
Bomb blast attacks kill 12 Iraqis
At least eight Iraqi policemen have been killed in a suicide bomb attack in the centre of the Iraqi capital. Another four people were killed in a bomb attack, injuring another 25 people - thought to all be civilians. Full Story:
Green blooded Religious Conservatives and red blooded Political Conservatives, there is a Katrina difference in it! One divides America, the other unites in LOVE.
In love, one write inside the poverty that sees human faces of the streets, not the Corporate Fashion Fraternity statements of Enron, and Halliburton graft, and greed. So on a overcast day in PCB, one prays for the hands of Liberals and Conservatives of Moderation making America grow together upon compassion, from those seeking to destroy a nation profiteering from our suffering, like Katrina tears! Installing faulty equipment from a Bush promise, a Republican company given a bonus with Republican, and Bush ties failing to defend New Orleans in time.
In every word, one sees the end, but awakes looking forward to hope from the faith that does not care, what label they carry, but uses the divine gift to use Free Speech. Tomorrow again, this person will seek a temporary home, to believe in our Constitutional Freedom and Democracy, that never gets molded into one party of Executive Privilege.
David Young
Posted by Kristen on March 15, 2007 at 10:23 AM
Kristen,
It sounds like you need a big hug. Consider it given. Don't let the news and weather get you down. Spring is around the corner and hope with it.
Posted by Esmeralda on March 15, 2007 at 10:38 AM
Now that's a good piece of news. I'd be glad to see the whole thing dismantled and let the states handle this.
Unless the federal govenment is willing to help poorer school districts with funding, there will only be isolated improvements. You can't mandate results.
Only an idiot like Bush who thinks a C plus average is keen would have started this terrorist attack on already struggling school districts...and infuriate all the rest of us who were already trying to better our own schools.
I was thinking of Kristen, and what appears in my e-mail? An up lifting song. Here's to you!
It's like a little birdie told me. ;)
Enjoy the afternoon, everyone.
Why should I feel discouraged?
Why should the shadows come?
Why should my heart be lonely,
And long for heav'n and home,
When Jesus is my portion?
My constant Friend is He.
His eye is on the sparrow and I know He watches me.
"Let not your heart be troubled,"
His tender words I hear.
And feasting on His goodness,
I lose my doubt and fear.
Though by the path He leadeth
But one step I may see.
His eye is on the sparrow and I know He watches me.
I sing because I'm happy,
I sing because I'm free.
For His eye is on the sparrow,
and I know He watches me.
{{Kristen}} -- sorry to hear your day started out on such a bummer. We're at your side, keedo.
{{Es}} - that's my very most-favorite hymn. How perfect a gift for Kristen. The simplicity of it always lifts me right up.
{{Blue}} -- we can break it down even further. When folks in a nation stop voting and start shooting at one another, that's about as much definition of a civil war as anyone needs. Iraq met that criterion a few years back. Slam-dunk.
Posted by Terry on March 15, 2007 at 11:02 AM
Terry,
When they get done torturing all the Gitmo prisoners will we will find out who was "really" behind the Nazis? Hitler must have been just a front man like Bin Lauden?
The White House propoganda pros always trot out another terris bogey man whenever one of the Bush crime family is in trouble. It almost seems fitting since Gonzales is responsible for all the torture these days.
Posted by BlueinIdaho on March 15, 2007 at 11:42 AM
Blue,
I assume that Bush will issue a blanket pardon for all Republicans who were convicted during his term...since he was probably involved in some way. That sounds like the kind of advice his personal attorney, Harriet Meyers, would give him.
Maaaannnnnn, just when you think it can't get any uglier, dirtier, or more sordid:
The Republican Party’s Unwelcome Guests
The Feds say they were con men, and one may have tried to finance terrorists. So how did they get so tight with the GOP?
Web exclusive
By Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball
Newsweek
Updated: 7:48 p.m. ET March 14, 2007
March 14, 2007 - An FBI counterterror unit put another notch in its belt last week when one of its targets was arrested by Spanish police. The apprehension of Canadian businessman Brian Anderson's received little media attention, but his case could prove politically embarrassing in Washington. Both Anderson and a key business partner, Abdul Tawala Ibn Alishtari, claim to have attended fund-raising events staged by national campaign organizations of the Republican Party.
While it's not clear to what extent Anderson and Alishtari participated in GOP events, their case raises some of the same questions that dogged the Democratic Party 10 years ago. Back then, Democrats came under pressure to return hundreds of thousands of dollars from a plethora of suspect donors, including a convicted Florida drug dealer and foreign businessmen under scrutiny for alleged ties to Chinese intelligence.
(snip)
In the years before his arrest, Alishtari gained access to GOP fund-raising circles by contributing more than $35,000 to the National Republican Senate and congressional campaign committees between 2002 and 2004, federal election records and GOP officials confirm. Alishtari, in a resume posted on the Internet, claimed to have had several Republican Party honors bestowed on him, including the “US National Republican Senate Inner Circle Member for Life” and “US National Republican Congressional Committee NYS Businessman of the Year.” The resume and other documentation about Alishtari's political activities were originally dug up by the investigative blog TPMmuckraker.com, which also came up with a press release designating Alishtari as a member of the GOP congressional committee's Business Advisory Council.
That's enough of a tease. Ya gotta read the rest. The very, very, very worst of the Democratic scandals of years ago never even began to approach the complete, selfservative whoredom of the GOP.
This is a real Democrat, Russ Feingold was just great as usual on the Senate floor. Its nice to hear him actually act like a true democrat. Thats consistentcy!
Posted by HillWilliam on March 15, 2007 at 01:45 PM
What number is this on the list of selfservative scandals....I lost count.
Panel OKs subpoenas in U.S. attorney probe
Committee postpones authorizing subpoenas for President Bush's top aides
Updated: 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - The Senate Judiciary Committee Thursday cleared the way for subpoenas compelling five Justice Department officials and six of the federal prosecutors they fired to tell the story of a purge of U.S. attorneys that has prompted demands for the ouster of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.
The voice vote to authorize the panel to issue subpoenas amounts to insurance against the possibility that Gonzales could retract his permission to let the aides testify voluntarily, or impose strict conditions.
leahy cracks the whip
""DP World is owned by the government of Dubai""
How much of American assets has been sold to foreign governments? How much of Corporations do foreign government own? For instance how much of Diamler Crysler is owned by the UAE? Should not no bid contracts require that the company be headquartered in the United States as a patriot firm? Why do we have foreign companies, especially government concerns taking over Defence projects?
And also in the "it won't stop coming" category:
Wednesday, March 14, 2007
VA hospital turned away suicidal vet, family says
Although he earned two purple hearts for fighting in Iraq, Marine Jonathan Schulze was rejected by a Minnesota VA hospital when he needed urgent treatment.
Schulze was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) by his family physician. He was prescribed Ambien, Valium, and Paxil, but they didn't help. When Schulze began to feel suicidal, he turned to the VA hospital in St. Cloud, Minnesota, about an hour outside Minneapolis.
His father and stepmother both insist they heard Schulze tell the intake nurse he was "suicidal." But instead of admitting him, the hospital told Schulze to go home and call back the next day.
The family says it was told the social worker who screens PTSD patients was too busy to see him. When Schulze called back the next day, his stepmom says she listened as he told the social worker he felt suicidal. The hospital then responded by telling him he was Number 26 on the waiting list for one of 12 PTSD patient beds. In other words, he'd need to wait at least two weeks before he could get treatment.
Is that any way to respond to a Iraqi Veteran who is telling you he's suicidal? And why, with the U.S. fighting two wars in the Middle East, are there only 12 beds reserved at this hospital for PTSD patients? The U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs expects one in five veterans will need to be treated for PTSD.
The Marine's dad, Jim Schulze, said, "When a vet cries out that he is suicidal, even if they had to set up a bed in the kitchen, you don't turn them away. You don't put them on a waiting list."
Four days after his visit to the VA hospital, Jonathan Schulze put a household electric cord around his neck and hanged himself in the basement of a friend's home. A picture of his one-year-old daughter was at his side.
Amazing. The VA has become like one of Lily Tomlin's "Ernestine" skits ("We don't care; we don't have to. We're the phone company.")
Aren't the pugs the ones who holler "you don't support the troops" when we try to prevent travesties like this? On whose watch was a war of aggression picked and on whose watch was it "persecuted" (to quote their fuhrer)? Who could have done something about this up front, but were too busy pocketing profits? One answer fits all: the GOP.
I lay this particularly needless death right at the steps of the White House and the entire case of GOP Congressionals.
one of the great gifts of the republican administration is it's bias toward hiring completely incompetent advisor's for all the top players...this give an "naive ideologue idiot a break" program is the only scrap of compassionate conservatism i can find in the rubble of the bush white house...for instance where did this clown d. kyle sampson come from??
"PREPARE TO Withstand Political Upheaval," the attorney general's now-ousted chief of staff wrote in an e-mail to the White House as the administration prepared to fire a number of U.S. attorneys last year. About that, at least, D. Kyle Sampson was right...
Thanks {{{Sandy, Es, HillWill}}}, just popped in to take a quick break and found all your kind thoughts.
Has anyone from the White House said yet what those “mistakes” were concerning the prosecutors purge? They keep on saying mistakes were made, but I'm not hearing specifics.
There never is an explanation with this White House. Instead we get a lot of bluffing, comparisons with past administrations, and tap dancing around the main issue.
I want to know why ONLY those eight prosecutors were dismissed right before an election.
What investigations were they in the process of developing? What other prosecutors were told to back down on their work or lose their jobs? Who inside and outside of the White House initiated these actions? These questions need to be asked and all the people involved must testify.
So I want the President to get a subpoena. He has already been identified as one who passed along information. He obviously has evidence that needs to be presented. It's time for Bush to give us his account of the mistakes he has already said were made. What does he know?
If nothing legally wrong happened, why are they preparing to impede the investigation using executive privilege? Those that serve in Congress are the peoples' representatives. We, the people, have a right to know why our Justice Department was compromised and by who.
Gonzales cannot answer all the questions. Nor can he speak for the White House. He no longer is employed there. As the Attorney General of the United States, he works for the Courts. It's time he has made aware of that fact...as well as the President.
Neither of them seem to understand the Constitution or the separation of powers.
Neither of them seem to understand the Constitution or the separation of powers.
Posted by SandyH on March 15, 2007 at 02:56 PM
Sure they do Sandy. The Constitution is a "G-ddamn piece of paper" and the separation of powers means that Deadeye gets to handle the rape of Iraq and Prince George gets to loot from the US economy.
Sandy,
In GOPSpeak, "I accept responsibility" (QED) means "I'm not in the least apologetic; I knew what I was doing; and I don't give a damn what anyone says, I'll do it again if I can get away with it."
Clearly, when any of the Reichstag gets busted cold at anything over which they'd pillory anyone else, the lack of remorse and amendment of purpose are clearly visible. They don't change their ways -- they only find sneakier ways (or slicker counsel, or at best, a tossed redirection to a lemming press) to accomplish the same skulduggery.
And I respectfully disagree. They do understand the Constitution and the separation of powers. They just don't give a damn, since no one is willing to impose the proper penalties for, oh, say, overthrowing the government of a democratic country like the USA.
Maybe things are about to take a strange turn for this administration?
I remember the Watergate hearings. We only had the three networks then and had to work around the soap operas. Today with wall-to-wall cable TV coverage this should be riveting history in the making.
This secretive White House doesn't like having to face the music in front of the the American people whom they obviously don't care about or trust. These hearings are going to be revelation for both sides.
bbl.
Evangelical Conservatives and Right Wing Conservatives There Is A World Between Them.
Posted by dlesterpoet on March 15, 2007 at 04:09 PM
What's the difference?
9/11 mastermind admits killing reporter
AP - 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Suspected 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed confessed to the beheading of American journalist Daniel Pearl and a central role in 30 other attacks and plots in the U.S. and worldwide that killed thousands of victims, said a revised transcript released Thursday by the U.S. military. "I decapitated with my blessed right hand the head of the American Jew, Daniel Pearl, in the city of Karachi, Pakistan," Mohammed is quoted as saying in a transcript of a military hearing at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, released by the Pentagon.
.....Did this guy kill JFK too? If he did we'll never know I guess. Apparently we, the public, are supposed to believe anything and everything the Bush Administration releases to the press. It's really pitiful that we are not allowed to witness this especially since all the hysteria over 9-11. If this is truly as big a deal as we are supposed to believe all aspects of the "trial" should be publicly shown but this will not happen. The Bush Administration has so screwed up the detention of these people that they can't be tried fairly. Crimes have been committed by our officials which is the real reason the trials are supposedly secret, except of course for what they consider the juicy bits they toss out like candy to a gullible few. I'm ashamed of our country.
I'm not saying this person is not a bad actor it's just that there is a right way to do these thing and it's not to do it in the dark. Desperate individuals "confess" to crimes they didn't commit for publicity. Where is the proof?
wldj:
I just read the first half of the redacted transcript of the mastermind's testimony. Unfortunately, I don't have the website. But, if you search "OpinionJournal" published daily by Dow Jones, you should be able to find it, i.e., the transcript, in .pdf format. I get it by email and most days delete it without reading their newsletter because it's so sickeningly right-wing. It sounds like it's all a prefabrication to take heat off the administration.
Laura
wldj:
I just read the first half of the redacted transcript of the mastermind's testimony. Unfortunately, I don't have the website. But, if you search "OpinionJournal" published daily by Dow Jones, you should be able to find it, i.e., the transcript, in .pdf format. I get it by email and most days delete it without reading their newsletter because it's so sickeningly right-wing. It sounds like it's all a prefabrication to take heat off the administration.
Laura
Iran sanctions go to UN council
A new sanctions package designed to put pressure on Iran over its nuclear programme has been agreed by the six countries handling the issue at the UN. Full Story:
Posted by puggles on March 15, 2007 at 04:44 PM
Funny how they just chose to release this information so soon after the Libby verdict. Just coincidence I guess. ;)
BlueinIdaho:
Right, it's all just a coincidence...not.
Laura
Afternoon all,
I was raging at the radio again today. ahole hannity was complaining that bush fired 93 US Attorneys and it is all political.
We went on and on and finally said the economy is the best it's ever been.
What planet does this ahole inhabit?
I did hear some good things from Thom Hartman. He said that they now have bush by the gonads since they have proof that bush committed an impeachable act.
It seems there was a US Attorney who was going to investigate gonzales and his torture syndrome. bush stepped in and squelched it by not granting the attorney a security clearance.
Add another charge to the impeachment declaration. What is it now? 150 charges.
Congress must act now. It seems that the repigs are unraveling. They will thrash around and blame anyone and everyone of they can so long as they are Democrats.
Thom Harman also said that it is customary as it has been for years that when a new president takes office, all the US attorneys turn in their resignations. Then it is up to the president to either accept or reject them.
All the repig talking liars were saying "Clinton did it and it is political". "Of course, what we did is not political. Next time some moron repig tries to tell you that Clinton did it. Tell him or her to go to hell.
WASHINGTON - Democrats aggressively challenged President Bush's Iraq policy at both ends of the Capitol on Thursday, gaining House committee approval for a troop withdrawal deadline of Sept. 1, 2008, but suffering defeat in the Senate on a less sweeping plan to end U.S. participation in the war.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070315/ap_on_go_co/us_iraq;_ylt=AkocX5V5TJu33xQf2afqDJGs0NUE
This war is not going to end until bush and cheney resign and we can fire all the ahole cronies he has hired.
Posted by Johnedwrd on March 15, 2007 at 04:59 PM
It's pretty to easy understand, but the repugs only get their information from one place and are too brainwashed and cowed to challenge it.
Clinton, HW Bush and GW Bush fired all 93 US attorneys upon taking office.
But singling out 8 attorneys during your term of office because they were not "loyal to the administration" is a whole different ball game.
Posted by Johnedwrd on March 15, 2007 at 04:59 PM
John,
Once we get these liars under oath or if they challenge Congress on the subpoenas with the old Watergate "executive privilege" excuse, this story takes off like grease lightning.
McCafferty was just saying on CNN that he wants a fist fight between Leahy and Rove...he doesn't even care who wins as long as there are chairs being thrown around. It's getting personal even for the MSM. I can't wait.
All those long hours of canvassing and phone calling were worth it just to give us control of the hearing process and oversight. The shoe's on the other foot. There is going to be accountability and the press is going to help us.
It's sort of like American Idol. The American public wants to see Rove and Gonzales sing on national television and then face the humiliation of being told it's just not good enough.
The more I think about the lack of oversight provided by the repigs in Congress, the more pissed off I get.
This is their job and they are utter failures like bush and cheney.
But singling out 8 attorneys during your term of office because they were not "loyal to the administration" is a whole different ball game.
Posted by BlueinIdaho on March 15, 2007 at 05:18 PM
Blue,
Yeah, but lying about it is a crime when you earlier told Congress something else under oath. They said one thing and the memos have them saying something else. Why did they lie? What are they covering up. Who are they protecting?
Some Republican stooge on Hardball just admitted that this is the problem and the White House has to find a way to get out of it.
There is a pattern here which started with Bush looking into the cameras at the SOTU saying he had proof of WMD...when we all now know he didn't. Bush has always been in the middle of it.
He's popped up in the middle of this controversy, too. And here we have him earlier this week looking into the cameras saying he knows nothing...when others say he did.
Liar, liars pants on fire.
I just saw the thread about Darcy Burner running again here in the Washington 8th! She's one of the really great people getting involved in politics and its good news that she isn't going to be discouraged by last fall's results.
In the Senate, after weeks of skirmishing, Republicans easily turned back Democratic legislation requiring a troop withdrawal to begin within 120 days. The measure set no fixed deadline for completion of the redeployment, but set a goal of March 31, 2008. The vote was 50-48 against the measure, 12 short of the 60 needed for passage.
Well, we got the Senate Republicans and that Independent Republican on the record today for not wanting to end this fiasco in Iraq.
What Reid has to do is tack the Iraqi withdrawal deadline onto every bill from now on. The closer we get to the election, we will have a long-standing record of these GOP incumbents' votes.
It will prove that the Republicans didn't care about the overwhelming opinion of the American people....that they ignored the peoples' will time and time again while our troops continued to die in futility.
This just might be the straw that breaks the back of the Republican party. Nobody can ignore the public for such a long time without it causing grave injury to the party who continues such an arrogant, selfish course of action. The numbers of those against this occupation will only increase now that has now lasted longer than WWII.
That photo of Reagan with a tear on his cheek on Time Magazine has taken on a whole new meaning. They have destroyed everything he did for them. Everything.
So be it. If they want to put their heads in a noose and then gradually tighten it themselves, Reid should give them the opportunity.
Can someone challenge the Supreme Court on the right of the White House to circumvent Constitutional checks and balances, by eliminating the need to have Congressional oversight on Attorney Generals.
In fact each state should be required to aprove there own Attorney General to keep one area of the nation being assigned nationwide.
Evangelical Conservatives and Right Wing Conservatives There Is A World Between Them.
Posted by dlesterpoet on March 15, 2007 at 04:09 PM
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What's the difference?
Posted by BlueinIdaho on March 15, 2007 at 04:15 PM
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The Evangelicalical Conservative believes in protecting the world from environmental abuse. Some warm about Global Warming while the Right Wing is all about Corporate Rights
Drunken Bush Hurls
Vile Insult At Wife
By Wayne Madsen
kkkarl rove was shown on the nbc evening news speaking at some event and asking the american people to give him and the dummie a fair shake on the attorney firings. he didn't look well. i bet he ends up looking alot worse. i figure he is gone by mid april.
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Do you believe the United States can retain its status as world leader in higher education when almost half of its college-age students are falling down drunk or stoned?
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/
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I found this question biased, in that it assumes that almost all college students are drunk and stoned. When 50 % of students are minors by law that means that at 21 college students are falling down drunk or stoned. I found it offensive to state a question as matter of fact.
It impries that religious colleges are drunk or that 90 % of other colleges are always drunk and stoned. Look at the campuses during the week and see the dedication of those students. This statement reminds me of a biased statement that I heard saying 50 % of blacks are drunk and stoned.
Vote your choice, but look at the wording of it! Let us modify it!
Do you believe the United States can retain its status as world leader in education when almost half of its students are falling down drunk or stoned?
Wow, Tracy.
My scroll button could hardly take the journey down to this thread. How about moving this thread up or giving us a new evening one?
kkkarl rove was shown on the nbc evening news speaking at some event and asking the american people to give him and the dummie a fair shake on the attorney firings
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Good evening
Impeach in no particular order:
Bush
Cheney
Gonzalez
Rove
Rice
Do you believe the United States can retain its status as world leader in education when almost half of its students are falling down drunk or stoned?
Posted by dlesterpoet on March 15, 2007 at 06:56 PM
poet,
They are only following the lead of their hero George W. Bush and his C plus average. Or maybe these kids identify with the Bush twins?
Impeach Gonzales
by mcjoan
Thu Mar 15, 2007 at 03:05:18 PM PDT
House Judiciary Chair Conyers has a few questions for our friend Al:
(Washington, DC)- Today, House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers, Jr. (D-MI) sent a letter to U.S. Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales demanding he answer allegations that he may have advised the President to shut down an Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR) inquiry into the Administration’s domestic wiretapping surveillance program because of his role in the program....
"It would be an extraordinary abuse of authority if you advised the President on this matter after learning that your own conduct was to be investigated," Conyers wrote. "The decision by the President to shut down the OPR investigation by denying security clearances to key Department personnel was itself extremely unusual, controversial and, in our view, improper. But the issue of your role in advising the President on this question raises what may be even more serious concerns."
Gonzales will almost certainly jump ship or be forced overboard before Conyers would have an opportunity to start the impeachment process, but a girl can dream, right?
And in other Gonzales news, former U.S. Attorney and U.S. Representative Bob Barr is also calling for his ouster:
You all probably seen this:
Senate Resolution
by BarbinMD
Thu Mar 15, 2007 at 01:45:50 PM PDT
No surprises here. The Reid Resolution to require a troop withdrawal beginning in 120 days and with a completion goal of March 31, 2008, failed 48-50. For those keeping score at home, those opposing were the 49 Republicans and Joe Lieberman.
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Okay fine. Then no money for iraq! Bush and the repukes are not going to bully us into continuing this iraq debacle. I say we keep bringing the same bills to the floor over and over. If the Puggies don't want them or Bush vetoes them then it's them that are defunding the troops.
Whose Oil Is It, Anyway?
By Antonia Juhasz
The New York Times
Tuesday 13 March 2007
Today more than three-quarters of the world's oil is owned and controlled by governments. It wasn't always this way.
Until about 35 years ago, the world's oil was largely in the hands of seven corporations based in the United States and Europe. Those seven have since merged into four: ExxonMobil, Chevron, Shell and BP. They are among the world's largest and most powerful financial empires. But ever since they lost their exclusive control of the oil to the governments, the companies have been trying to get it back.
Iraq's oil reserves - thought to be the second largest in the world - have always been high on the corporate wish list. In 1998, Kenneth Derr, then chief executive of Chevron, told a San Francisco audience, "Iraq possesses huge reserves of oil and gas - reserves I'd love Chevron to have access to."
A new oil law set to go before the Iraqi Parliament this month would, if passed, go a long way toward helping the oil companies achieve their goal. The Iraq hydrocarbon law would take the majority of Iraq's oil out of the exclusive hands of the Iraqi government and open it to international oil companies for a generation or more.
In March 2001, the National Energy Policy Development Group (better known as Vice President Dick Cheney's energy task force), which included executives of America's largest energy companies, recommended that the United States government support initiatives by Middle Eastern countries "to open up areas of their energy sectors to foreign investment." One invasion and a great deal of political engineering by the Bush administration later, this is exactly what the proposed Iraq oil law would achieve. It does so to the benefit of the companies, but to the great detriment of Iraq's economy, democracy and sovereignty.
Since the invasion of Iraq, the Bush administration has been aggressive in shepherding the oil law toward passage. It is one of the president's benchmarks for the government of Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki, a fact that Mr. Bush, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Gen. William Casey, Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad and other administration officials are publicly emphasizing with increasing urgency.
The administration has highlighted the law's revenue sharing plan, under which the central government would distribute oil revenues throughout the nation on a per capita basis. But the benefits of this excellent proposal are radically undercut by the law's many other provisions - these allow much (if not most) of Iraq's oil revenues to flow out of the country and into the pockets of international oil companies.
Thank Kucinich for His Remarks Today on Iran and Impeachment
Submitted by JonathanSchwarz on Thu, 2007-03-15 17:25. Activism
Please call Rep. Dennis Kucinich at 202-225-5871 and Email him at http://kucinich.us/contact and thank him for his remarks today on the floor of the House, in which he stood up for Congress' war powers and stated impeachment may be the only way to prevent President Bush from attacking Iran. If you really want to encourage Dennis to move ahead on impeachment, one idea is to go to http://kucinich.us and donate to his presidential campaign. Try giving $15 because this is March 15th and indicating that impeachment is the reason why.
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Chimpeachment!
...those opposing were the 49 Republicans and Joe Lieberman.
Posted by rjsnj on March 15, 2007 at 07:17 PM,
Just a quick in and out...as usual, but all I can add to your message here is that Lieberman knows this will be his last term as a Senator. For all intent and purposes I already count his vote in the republican column, and look for him to change parties over the summer break.
He has to do this to throw the Senate committee Chairs, especially the judicial committee into republican control. When the heat rises, and it's already beginning to, over the U.S. attorneys fiasco then Joe will have to travel to the other side to help put a lid on it. Ya know what I mean?
Posted by gregg on March 15, 2007 at 06:54 PM
gregg,
Gone where? The Bush fortress in Paraquay?
Rove and Gonzales aren't going anywhere. They'll stay in the bubble till the end. Bush won't fire them and he's mad as hell that we would suggest such a thing. Spunky will dig in his heels.
He doesn't care if they all look bad. Bush thinks he's real butch when he's doing The Decider thing. If the rest of the Republicans and the party go down in flames, it's their fault for not supporting the troops... remember, he's the #1 warrier in the war on terror and the Commander-in-Chief. We are at war, damned it. Keep in line.
And Democrats are not allowed to question the King and his Court of Jesters...ever.
SandyH on March 15, 2007 at 07:29 PM,
Who said there's no honor among crooks? They'll all go down together...
Have good night...
This war is not going to end until bush and cheney resign and we can fire all the ahole cronies he has hired.
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Chimpeachment
By Ruth Marcus
The Washington Post
Wednesday 14 March 2007
"I believe in accountability," Attorney General Alberto Gonzales proclaimed yesterday at a news conference that was a self-serving masterpiece of passive voice and unpersuasive platitudes. "Like every CEO of a major organization, I am responsible for what happens at the Department of Justice. I acknowledge that mistakes were made here. I accept that responsibility. And my pledge to the American people is to find out what went wrong here, to access accountability and to make improvements so that the mistakes that occurred in this instance do not occur again in the future."
Is there anyone left - seriously, is there a Republican member of the Senate Judiciary Committee - who has confidence in Gonzales's capacity to fix this mess? Is there anyone who accepts Gonzales's CEO analogy - and thinks that a sentient board of directors wouldn't have fired him long ago?
Let's assume Gonzales's good faith: that he truly is upset about what happened on his watch, just as he was upset last week about the FBI's cavalier mishandling of its authority to issue "national security letters," and wants to make things right.
There is no reason to believe that he is capable of making a change. The portrait of the Gonzales Justice Department that emerges from the e-mails released yesterday, and from the attorney general's own comments, is of an agency overseen by an absentee landlord, chronically clueless about what's happening around him.
You have to look at the Associated Press article by David Crary about Rev. R. Albert Mohler, Jr., president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary (Louisville, KY). The Reverend Mohler wants fetuses experientmented on to see 1) if they are homosexual, and 2) if bioscientists can manipulate these fetuses into being un-homosexual.
Now, when Rev. Mohler says "We should have no more problem with that than treating any medical problem", he wants us to think homosexuality is a medically treatable SICKNESS. If anybody is "SICK", it is this "Reverend" Mohler-- a fundamentalist Christianist who wants to use science to promote his HOMOPHOBIC RELIGIOUS DOGMA (which is a fiction and has nothing to do with Christianity).
Mohler claims he doesn't want to use genetics to do this, just hormones; nevertheless, I say his intention to change the human race is an attempt at bioresearch forced EVOLUTION, quite like the eugenics used by Hitler in his desire to create a "super race". Rev. Mohler's Super Christianist Race is planned to be devoid of gays and lesbians!
So much for the sanctity of the UNBORN fetus! Rev. Mohler wants to experiment on the unborn fetus in order to assuage his own personal HOMOPHOBIA. SICK. SICK. SICK.
His Own Worst Enemy
By Robert Scheer
Truthdig.com
Tuesday 13 March 2007
The unctuous owl has hooted again. Only this time, Dick Cheney's cave has been invaded by the sudden sunlight of judicial and congressional revelations, making him appear more pathetic than intimidating as he once again charges critics of the Iraq war with giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
"A full validation of the al-Qaida strategy" are the shameless, slandering words the most powerful vice president in American history flung Monday at congressional critics of the war-including those from his own party.
While he is still as dangerous as any cornered animal, Cheney stands brightly revealed as the main culprit in cherry-picking the evidence to make the case for a stupid, failed war. He has been exposed as a vindictive, inflexible ideologue, who attempts to destroy all who publicly disagree with him, such as former Ambassador Joseph Wilson and Wilson's CIA agent wife, Valerie Plame Wilson. His extensive ties and loyal political service to energy and defense companies such as Halliburton (which now, in a burst of honesty, is moving its headquarters to Dubai), reveal him to be a man of deep corruption.
Like Nixon during Watergate, Cheney is now shrilly on the defensive. "National security made me do it!" he insists, clinging to pseudo-patriotism, that last refuge of scoundrels. But it is an argument that no longer flies with a public that has caught on to the rhythm of his screechy lies. After all, this is the leader, dominating a weak president, who pushed so hard for a complete occupation of a Muslim country not linked to 9/11. A man who hung his arguments for adventuristic war on known falsehoods, such as the attempted purchase of yellowcake uranium in Niger.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/031407D.shtml
Impeach the killer Cheney Chimp as well.
Hey, if our Congressional committees can get Gonzales or Rove under oath, can we ask them anything?
I'd like someone to query Gonzales on his torture policy and his current status as a Catholic. Does he think the Pope will excumunicate him? I'm certain Pope John would have...not sure about the current one.
And wouldn't we all love to ask Rove about outting Plame. Who told him to do it?
Who said there's no honor among crooks?
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Impeach all of the Bush crime family:
Bush
Cheney
Rove
Gonzalez
Rice
Posted by nora on March 15, 2007 at 07:34 PM
nora,
This guy is as crazy as the Reverand Moon.
Hey, if our Congressional committees can get Gonzales or Rove under oath, can we ask them anything?
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They can and it makes no sense in delaying. Get them on the record, they will lie. These people are pathological liars. Then you got them on perjury.
Impeach them all.
Clinton: Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy Is Back
The Associated Press
Tuesday 13 March 2007
Cites anti-voter actions, phone jamming and intimidating phone calls.
Washington - The "vast, right-wing conspiracy" is back, presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton is warning, using a phrase she once coined to describe partisan plotting.
Once derided for her use of the phrase, Clinton is now trying to turn the imagery to her advantage.
Speaking Tuesday to Democratic municipal officials, the New York senator used the term to hammer Republicans on election irregularities.
She also used the phrase similarly during a campaign appearance over the weekend in New Hampshire.
\http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/031407G.shtml
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This time I have to agree with Senator Clinton. There is definitely a vast right wing conspiracy.
It started with the right wing think tanks - Heritage, Cato, AEI, etc... It then spread to the mass media. This conspiracy has targeted unions and the environmental movements. This is the reason why Puggies hate both.
Posted by rjsnj on March 15, 2007 at 07:37 PM
rjsnj,
Don't forget Poland. Seriously, would you impeach them or just indict all of them?
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Did you hear that Florida might move their primary up to January? Maybe we should just move the whole election to this November and be done with it.
I think the public would be happy to get this thing done already. Nobody is happy watching these incompetents in the White House running the country a day longer nor the GOP dopes in Congress stopping things from changing.
Obama/Edwards/Dobb/whoever in 2007. It's time.
I just heard on CNN that Republican Sen. Gordon Smith wants Gonzales to go. This thing is gaining traction on the other side of the aisle. Let's get these hearings going full speed ahead.
Posted by rjsnj on March 15, 2007 at 07:42 PM
Arnold just said on CNN that global warming must be admitted and addressed. The Terminator has spoken. Will the lemmings listen.
Did you hear that Florida might move their primary up to January? Maybe we should just move the whole election to this November and be done with it.
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Sandy, it's a pity that we don't hve a partliamentary system where we could just vote for "no confidence". Chimpy would be long gone by now.
We;;, first you must indict before you can impeach. Haul them all in for questioning. There is no reason why we are delaying on Gonzalez and Rove. Subpoena them now.
E-Mails Show Rove Role in US Attorney Firings
By Jan Crawford Greenburg
ABC News
Thursday 15 March 2007
E-mails directly contradict White House assertions that the notion originated with Harriet Miers.
New unreleased e-mails from top administration officials show the idea of firing all 93 U.S. attorneys was raised by White House adviser Karl Rove in early January 2005, indicating Rove was more involved in the plan than previously acknowledged by the White House.
The e-mails also show Attorney General Alberto Gonzales discussed the idea of firing the attorneys en masse while he was still White House counsel - weeks before he was confirmed as attorney general.
The e-mails directly contradict White House assertions that the notion originated with recently departed White House counsel Harriet Miers and was her idea alone.
Two independent sources in a position to know have described the contents of the e-mail exchange, which could be released as early as Friday. They put Rove at the epicenter of the imbroglio and raise questions about Gonzales' explanations of the matter.
The e-mail exchange is dated in early January 2005, more than a month before the White House acknowledged it was considering firing all the U.S. attorneys - and while Gonzales still was White House counsel. On its face, the plan is not improper, inappropriate or even unusual: The President has the right to fire U.S. attorneys at any time, and presidents have done so when they took office.
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We got the goods on KKKarl Rover. Bring him in.
Aborted DOJ Probe Probably Would Have Targeted Gonzales
By Murray Waas
The National Journal
Thursday 15 March 2007
Shortly before Attorney General Alberto Gonzales advised President Bush last year on whether to shut down a Justice Department inquiry regarding the administration's warrantless domestic eavesdropping program, Gonzales learned that his own conduct would likely be a focus of the investigation, according to government records and interviews.
Bush personally intervened to sideline the Justice Department probe in April 2006 by taking the unusual step of denying investigators the security clearances necessary for their work.
It is unclear whether the president knew at the time of his decision that the Justice inquiry - to be conducted by the department's internal ethics watchdog, the Office of Professional Responsibility - would almost certainly examine the conduct of his attorney general.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/031507D.shtml
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Come on Dems haven't we taken ewverything we can be expected to take at this point? I can't see how anyone can claim it's vengeance for what the Pugs did to Clinton. Let's start proceeeding against these Bush thugs. Start with Gonzalez. It's an interesting historical parallel that Nixon's downfall started with AG John Mitchell.
Let's get going already.
Arnold just said on CNN that global warming must be admitted and addressed. The Terminator has spoken. Will the lemmings listen.
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Sandy, I have to say that Arnold is a bit more open minded than most of the puggies ... maybe Maria is a good influence on him.
By the way, not to get to high on Arnold, he does stink for vetoing the California single pater bill. Arnold wants a mandated insurance system like Mass. Bad plan!
I just heard on CNN that Republican Sen. Gordon Smith wants Gonzales to go.
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Sandy, I would be cautious on that one. Good ole Gordo said he's against the Iraq war and then voted with the Puggies against Reid's Iraq redeployment resolution. These Puggies talk the talk sometimes but never walk the walk.
Evangelical Christians Attack Use of Torture by US
By Ed Pilkington
The Guardian UK
Tuesday 13 March 2007
The uncoupling of American evangelism from the administration of George Bush gathered pace yesterday when one of the largest national umbrella groups of socially conservative Christians issued a statement critical of US policy towards detainees and repudiating torture as a tactic in the war on terror.
The National Association of Evangelicals (NAE), which represents about 45,000 churches across America, endorsed a declaration against torture drafted by 17 evangelical scholars. The authors, who call themselves Evangelicals for Human Rights and campaign for "zero tolerance" on torture, say that the US administration has crossed "boundaries of what is legally and morally permissible" in the treatment of detainees.
"Tragically, documented cases of torture and inhumane and cruel behaviour have occurred at various sites in the war on terror, and current law opens procedural loopholes for more to continue," the NAE said last night.
The strong alliance between Christian evangelicals and Mr Bush, an important key to his electoral successes, has been tested in recent months with the Mark Foley scandal over his attraction towards male teenage pages in Congress, and perceived corruption in parts of the Republican party. One in three white evangelicals voted for Democratic candidates in last November's mid-term elections, a rise on the 2004 presidential elections.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/031507G.shtml
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Well, well, well ...
It looks like Karl Rove had the existing Republican Attorney General removed and installed his second in command as a Arkansas Attorney General, to dig up dirt on the Clinton's. Having a porfolio ready to use once Hillary is nominated.
Does that mean the Attorney General in Illinois is at work digging up trash for them to use there.
Does that mean they must focus only on Democratic corruption before the election. That ongoing investigations must brought forward to put a bad light on only one Party?
With a J.Edgar Hoover Patriot Act, Karl Rove does not need a warrant to check politicians emails, and see what Democrats are planning ahead of time.
Congress needs to have a list of any political donor, and politician on the White House Patriot List!
I think the Attorney General of Arkansas must appear before Congress in what his instructions were once he had the job. If he had a prior agenda then that would be collusion.
It looks like Karl Rove had the existing Republican Attorney General removed and installed his second in command as a Arkansas Attorney General, to dig up dirt on the Clinton's.
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KKKarl Rove should be prosecuted. I wonder if these attorneys can sue him in a civil lawsuit ... loss of pay, wrongful dismissal, that sort of thing ...
Rev. R. Albert Mohler, Jr.
It didn't take the pug x-tian reich to find their new Dr. Josef Mengele, the Nazi who experimented on Jews in concentration camps.
Rev. R. Albert Mohler, Jr., experiment with your own congregation and family; you sick f@cker.
Drag him in front of congress and have him sworn in to show his claimed data based on human experimentation.
Witness List: Valerie Plame Wilson + Victoria Toensing! [UPDATED]
by SusanHu
Thu Mar 15, 2007 at 02:30:33 PM PDT
Valerie Plame Wilson leads a list of five witnesses -- including Victoria Toensing -- who will testify tomorrow at 10 a.m. ET before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. The hearing will seek to determine "whether White House officials followed appropriate procedures for safeguarding the identity of CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson." Listen live at the committee's site or via C-Span.
The committee, chaired by Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA), will also address "the disclosure and internal White House security procedures for protecting her identity from disclosure and responding to the leak after it occurred."
A committee press staff member returned my call to tell me the witness list is now up:
Ms. Valerie Plame Wilson, former employee, Central Intelligence Agency
Dr. James Knodell, Director, Office of Security, The White House (invited)
Mr. Mark Zaid, Attorney
Ms. Victoria Toensing, diGenova & Toensing, LLP
Email: Most USAs Are "Loyal Bushies"
By Paul Kiel - March 15, 2007, 6:53 PM
As reported earlier on ABC News, here is the email that shows that the whole U.S. attorney purge scheme originated with Karl Rove. It was released this evening by the Justice Department.
In the email, which has the subject line "Re: Question from Karl Rove," Kyle Sampson, who was then at the Justice Department, discusses with then-deputy White House Counsel David Leitch the idea of replacing "15-20 percent of the current U.S. Attorneys," because "80-85 percent, I would guess, are doing a great job, are loyal Bushies, etc."
"[I]f Karl thinks there would be policitical will to do it, then so do I," Sampson concludes.
Sampson's email was in response to Leitch's relaying of Rove's query about how the administration would handle the U.S. Attorneys. As paraphrased by Colin Newman, a legal aide in the White House counsel's office, Rove asked "how we planned to proceed regarding US Attorneys, whether we were going to allow all to stay, request resignations from all and accept only some of them, or selectively replace them, etc."
Update: The Justice Department has also released a statement from DoJ spokesperson Tasia Scolinos:
"The Attorney General has no recollection of any plan or discussion to replace U.S. Attorneys while he was still White House Counsel. The period of time referred to in the email was during the weeks he was preparing for his confirmation hearing, January 6th, 2005, and his focus was on that. Of course, discussions of changes in Presidential appointees would have been appropriate and normal White House exchanges in the days and months after the election as the White House was considering different personnel changes Administration wide."
Update: Of course, the email ought to be considered in light of the fact that it was written during Gonzales' confirmation hearings to be the attorney general, and that Sampson frames the solution in terms of how Gonzales would deal with it. Sampson writes that "we might want to consider doing performance evaluations after Judge comes on board," referring to Gonzales becoming the AG.
The first woman President, may be the first Vice President, coming from being the first Woman Speaker of the House. The first person to hold all three offices! Then Hillary will be second!
WOW...Donald "combover" Trump on live TV on MSNBC called for the impeachment of George W. Bush. He said that he was a staunch republican but along with Donnie Deutch said that this president was the worse in our history.
He said that Bush has caused america to lose all of it's allies (except the coalition in iraq) and to cost America its true superpower status.
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Even The Donald, obnoxious as he is, wants
CHIMPEACHMENT!
No legitimate doctor is going to support human experimentation. Yet here is a religious nut job that claims he has data to show it can be done.
Drag him before a grand jury to question him on his source of data and his human experimentation!
That is one sick nut job. He needs to be incarcerated for his callous disregard for human life, mental instability to justify harm and cause injury to mother and child based on his religious nut job thinking. He needs to be proven a liar, mentally unstable or incarcerated for condoning and proposal to harm to mother and child to support his bigotry.
here is the email
In a statement released to RAW STORY today, Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI) voiced concerns that Attorney General Alberto Gonzales acted unethically by advising the president to shut down an investigation of which he may have been a target.
"I am extremely concerned by the report that the Attorney General may have known he was a target of an internal investigation relating to his authorization of the illegal NSA wiretapping program, and yet advised the President to effectively shut down the probe by denying investigators the necessary security clearances," said Feingold.
"The President should immediately issue the clearances needed to permit the Office of Professional Responsibility’s NSA investigation to proceed, regardless of whether the Attorney General himself is a target. That investigation should also consider whether the Attorney General conducted himself properly in making his recommendation to the President," he demanded.
"The President should immediately issue the clearances needed to permit the Office of Professional Responsibility’s NSA investigation to proceed, regardless of whether the Attorney General himself is a target. That investigation should also consider whether the Attorney General conducted himself properly in making his recommendation to the President,"
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What are we waiting for? Haul Gonzalez in and put him on record. If he tells the trith, he's cooked. If he lies, he's also cooked. Let;s move on this bum now.
Feinstein: Lam Fired Over Cunningham Prosecution
The Associated Press
Wednesday 14 March 2007
Washington - Sen. Dianne Feinstein said Wednesday she believes the ouster of San Diego U.S. Attorney Carol Lam was connected to Lam's prosecution of former Republican congressman Randy "Duke" Cunningham, even though the Bush administration has denied it.
"In my heart of hearts I do, no matter what they say," Feinstein, D-Calif., a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said in an interview with The Associated Press.
"The fact is there are additional investigations that have come from that. The fact is that the day before she left office she filed two additional indictments," Feinstein said, referring to charges Lam filed last month against an ex-CIA official and a defense contractor tied to Cunningham.
"Now they weren't of members of Congress," Feinstein added. "But whether this has had a chilling effect over that investigation I don't know. But I'm concerned about it."
Feinstein's comments came amid a growing furor over the firing last year of eight U.S. attorneys in a Justice Department purge. Critics contend the dismissals were politically motivated and President Bush said Wednesday he is troubled by the Justice Department's misleading explanations to Congress on the situation.
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Gonzo is cooked IF we get him on the record now. We are making a mistake by allowing him to dissemble in public.
Patriot Act is nothing more than the propaganda ministry under the Nazi's. It is turned inward towards Americans.
Remember
1) No one can grant this president and his men more power to abuse than Americans.
2) No one can grant this presidetn and his men more money to spend than Americans.
3) No one can give away their freedom to this president more than Americans.
The Patriot Act is nothing but abuse of power to forward the pug reich, x-tians and line the pockets for cronies.
Just look at the reasons Halliburton gave for running away from America.
Safe Ground in a Housing Market Meltdown?
By Dean Baker
t r u t h o u t | Columnist
Wednesday 14 March 2007
As reports of problems in the mortgage market build, the number of people who view a collapse of the housing market as a serious possibility is growing rapidly. At the moment, the surge in defaults is taking place primarily in the sub-prime market, which is composed of borrowers who have poor credit histories. However, the problems are likely to affect the broader housing market and the economy as a whole before the end of the year.
The basic story in the sub-prime market is straightforward. Mortgage bankers were anxious to sell mortgages even when they knew that the borrowers could not make the payments, because they derive their income from selling the mortgage, not holding it. Hundreds of thousands of low- and moderate-income homebuyers were lured into buying homes by discounted "teaser" rates on mortgages. These teaser rates would reset to market rates, typically after three years, at which time many borrowers would be unable to make their monthly payments.
As long as house prices keep rising, everything works fine. Homeowners can always borrow against their equity to make their monthly payments, or they can sell their home, pay off the mortgage and pocket whatever gains they may have.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/031407J.shtml
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I think we are heading towards a recession but this time one with significant inflation.
Good evening, again.
Aborted DOJ Probe Probably Would Have Targeted Gonzales
Shortly before Attorney General Alberto Gonzales advised President Bush last year on whether to shut down a Justice Department inquiry regarding the administration's warrantless domestic eavesdropping program, Gonzales learned that his own conduct would likely be a focus of the investigation, according to government records and interviews.
Posted by rjsnj on March 15, 2007 at 08:03 PM
rjsnj,
This would be a good one to probe at the hearings.
The Patriot Act is nothing but abuse of power to forward the pug reich, x-tians and line the pockets for cronies.
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Repeal the Patriot Act.
There's Always Money for War
By Jared Bernstein
TomPaine.com
Monday 12 March 2007
Okay, this is going to sound really naive. It's the kind of question you'd expect from an earnest, if not slightly annoying, 12-year-old, not from a hard-boiled wonk like yours truly. But why is it that our representatives can easily raise endless amounts of money for war, but can't adequately fund human needs?
Posted by rjsnj on March 15, 2007 at 08:56 PM
Where did you here about trump?
This would be a good one to probe at the hearings.
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Sandy, yes! And the beauty of it is that it implicates the head rat Bush in manipulating the legal system.
Where did you here about trump?
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677 DAYS & COUNTING! TRUMP CALLS FOR IMPEACHMENT
by liteofday
Thu Mar 15, 2007 at 04:18:36 PM PDT
TRUMP CALLS FOR BUSH IMPEACHMENT!
677 DAYS AND COUNTING!
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/3/15/191040/135
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I heard him say it on the radio as well. Trump really does hate Dumbya.
(STAY FOCUSED ON ALL DISTRACTIONS)
Not only should we be paying close attention to Rove and what the Bush Administration is trying to cover up, but simultaneously, keep an eye on this new fake revelation by the Pentagon asserting that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed confessed to 911 because if the American people fall for that, it will make it easier for them to get away with not going after Osama Bin Laden who is really responsible for that attack by claiming "We got our man already". Ya know?
Just something to think about. I've smelled a rat from the time this story broke. I don't trust it.
Gonzo is cooked IF we get him on the record now. We are making a mistake by allowing him to dissemble in public.
Posted by rjsnj on March 15, 2007 at 09:05 PM
rjsnj,
How so? He just looks more guilty the more he talks. At that press conference, Gonzales looked like Rove had waterboarded him to get him to take the heat for the White House. Or was it Bush who applied a hot hanger?
Another beauty in this is that anyone, with the exception of Bush and his special counsel, who refuses to answer a subpoena is in contempt of Congress ... they can then be impeached.
Posted by fade2bluz on March 15, 2007 at 08:58 PM
Russ Feingold has been consistently correct in everything. When are his colleagues going to wake the heck up?
It's annoying as hell.
How so? He just looks more guilty the more he talks.
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He needs to be put officially on the record before the Pugs dissemble, distort and pressure witnesses not to testify honestly. We need to encourage more whistle blowers to come forward. I think what we are hearing is the tip of the iceberg.
Russ Feingold has been consistently correct in everything. When are his colleagues going to wake the heck up?
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Yep! He was right to opposing the patriot act.
Right on opposing Iraq.
But why is it that our representatives can easily raise endless amounts of money for war, but can't adequately fund human needs?
Exhibit #1: The Washington Post recently ran an important article documenting the loss of child-care subsidies to low-income, working parents. One of the lessons from welfare reform is that such work supports are a critical component of a pro-work, anti-poverty agenda. But because the program is terribly underfunded - fewer than a fifth of eligible people receive help - there's a huge waiting list, and families are left to give up on work or patch together less-than-desirable child-care situations.
Exhibit #2: If the president gets his way on budget requests over the next few years, and he always has, the Congressional Budget Office tells us that spending on the Iraq war will soon top $500 billion - $746 billion if you throw in Afghanistan. According to OMBWatch, the Congress will soon begin evaluating the largest supplemental funding bill ever requested by an administration: just shy of $100 billion, mostly for the war on terror and its sundry components.
Exhibit #3: We currently spend about $5 billion a year at the federal level on the block grant that funds child care. Last year, we added a $1 billion increase over five years. A bill to dedicate $6 billion more died in the Senate. Because these values are not adjusted for either inflation or population growth, the demand for child-care slots is outpacing capacity. According to the Bush administration's own budget, if we fail to devote more resources to child care, by 2010, the families of 300,000 fewer children will get the help they need.
Exhibit #4: I recently testified before the Senate Finance Committee on the question of whether there needed to be $8 billion worth of tax cuts to businesses to offset the impact of the federal minimum wage increase. I argued that the cuts were unnecessary, but in this context, consider this point: Because tax cuts must now be paid for, the committee was able to come up with $8 billion of offsets to pay for these cuts.
House Overturns Bush Order on Papers Secrecy
By Peter Szekely
Reuters
Wednesday 14 March 2007
Brushing aside a veto threat, the House of Representatives voted on Wednesday to overturn a 2001 order by President George W. Bush that lets former presidents keep their papers secret indefinitely.
The measure, which drew bipartisan support and passed by a veto-busting 333-93 margin, was among White House-opposed bills the House passed that would widen access to government information and protect government whistleblowers.
"Today, Congress took an important step toward restoring openness and transparency in government," House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Henry Waxman said.
The presidential papers bill nullifies a November 2001 order, criticized by historians, in which Bush allowed the White House or a former president to block release of a former president's papers and put the onus on researchers to show a "specific need" for many types of records.
Among beneficiaries of the Bush order was Bush's father, George H.W. Bush, a former vice president and president.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/031507N.shtml
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Very good. More truth will come out on this GOP filth.
Curveball, the Defector Whose Lies Led to War
By Brian Ross and Rhonda Schwartz
ABC News
Tuesday 13 March 2007
(Photo: ABC News)
The Iraqi defector known as Curveball, whose fabricated stories of "mobile biological weapons labs" helped lead the U.S. to war four years ago, is still being protected by the German intelligence service, an ABC News investigation has found.
Intelligence sources, who provided ABCNews.com with the first known photo of the man, say he has been resettled in a small town near the Munich headquarters of the German service, which has continued to honor its original commitment made when he fled Iraq in 1999.
Curveball's false tales became the centerpiece of Secretary of State Colin Powell's speech before the United Nations in February 2003, even though he was considered an "unstable, immature and unreliable" source by some senior officials at the CIA.
Powell told ABC News he is "angry and disappointed" that he was never told the CIA had doubts about the reliability of the source.
"I spent four days at CIA headquarters, and they told me they had this nailed," Powell said.
Behind the scenes at the CIA, however, a former senior official says he was trying to keep the Curveball information out of the Powell speech.
"People died because of this," said Tyler Drumheller, the former chief of European operations at the CIA, who has written about it in a new book, "On the Brink." "All off this one little guy who all he wanted to do was stay in Germany."
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/031407E.shtml
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Filthy Pug Lies in the war to steal iraq's oil.
Not Even Host Enthusiastic About "Lame Duck" Bush
By Diego Cevallos
Inter Press Service
Tuesday 13 March 2007
Mexico City - Mexican President Felipe Calderón met President George W. Bush Tuesday with complaints about U.S. migration and drug trafficking policies, after noting, through his press office, that the U.S. leader is in a period of declining popularity.
In his welcome ceremony, Calderón criticised a U.S. law for the construction of more than 1,000 kilometres of new fencing along the border between the two countries, and urged the United States to do more to reduce demand for drugs. For his part, Bush promised once again to "work as hard as I possibly can to pass comprehensive immigration reform," and to boost trade and investment.
Bush's two-day visit to Mexico, the last stop on a Latin America tour that has taken him to Brazil, Uruguay, Colombia and Guatemala, has been interpreted by many observers as an attempt to shore up the U.S. administration's ties with a government that is also conservative and pro-free market.
But even before the U.S. leader arrived, Calderón had called on the U.S. government to do more about drug trafficking, lashed out at the new fencing along the border, and said he would never be used as a "battering ram" against left-leaning governments in Latin America that have less than warm relations with Washington.
His press office also distributed an information packet to journalists in which the Mexican government points out that Bush now finds himself in a phase of "growing unpopularity", and that the pre-election fervour has already begun in the United States, even though Bush's term does not end until January 2009.
Political scientist María Amparo Casar told IPS that the Calderón administration was right to criticise Washington's policies and not to generate false expectations with respect to the U.S. leader's visit.
Bush is already a "lame duck" president, said Casar, a researcher with the Centre for Economic Research and Teaching (CIDE).
As in the other countries he visited, Bush's trip to Mexico has been surrounded by tight security, which has kept protesters away from the U.S. and Mexican presidents, who met in the city of Mérida on the Yucatan peninsula. Massive protest demonstrations have marked every stop along Bush's Latin America tour, which began Mar. 8 in Brazil.
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Is the putz back from his latin american bad will tour? I was sorta hoping he would get lost ... maybe spend a year building his fortress in paraguay.
Global Warming Science: An Annotated Bibliography
A summary of recent findings on the changing global climate.
In recent years, scientists have added considerably to the large body of evidence that shows heat-trapping gases like carbon dioxide -- produced mainly from the burning of fossil fuels -- are changing the global climate, raising temperatures and affecting ecosystems around the world. Here we summarize the most significant findings of the last few years.
Policies to Promote Carbon-less Energy Systems
Delivered on September 6, 2004, at the 7th International Conference on Greenhouse Gas Control Technologies (GHGT7), Vancouver, Canada, by David Hawkins, director of NRDC's climate center.
Abstract
For a copy of the PowerPoint used in this presentation, please email Paul Corsi.
Several studies have shown that very large amounts of zero-carbon-emitting energy resources ("carbon-less energy") must be deployed in the next few decades if humans are to grow in number and wealth, while avoiding a doubling of carbon dioxide (CO2) concentrations in the atmosphere. One such study estimates that stabilizing CO2 at 450 ppm would require that approximately 22 of the forecasted 30 terawatts (TW) of primary power demand in 2050 be from carbon-less energy resources. Despite the technical community's recognition of the magnitude of change required, there has been little discussion of the policies needed to pursue such a path among public and private sector officials whose actions will determine whether such a stabilization objective can or will be met.
Global Warming Basics
What it is, how it's caused, and what needs to be done to stop it.
[En Español]
What causes global warming?
Is the earth really getting hotter?
Are warmer temperatures causing bad things to happen?
Is global warming making hurricanes worse?
Is there really cause for serious concern?
Could global warming trigger a sudden catastrophe?
What country is the largest source of global warming pollution?
How can we cut global warming pollution?
Why aren't these technologies more commonplace now?
Do we need new laws requiring industry to cut emissions of global warming pollution?
Is it possible to cut power plant pollution and still have enough electricity?
How can we cut car pollution?
What can I do to help fight global warming?
http://www.nrdc.org/globalWarming/f101.asp
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For the Thuggy Puggies who obviously need more education.
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California's Breakthrough on Global Warming
California's Breakthrough on Global Warming
Tuesday, 05 September 2006
California's Breakthrough on Global Warming Could Have a Major Impact on Policy in Washington
August 30, 2006
Governor Schwarzenegger has embraced a cap on vehicle and industry emissions as a way to make California a trendsetter in fighting global warming. California's Global Warming Solutions Act aims to cut emissions to 1990 levels, or around 25 percent, by 2020 with an enforceable cap and mandatory reporting for top polluters.
California's breakthrough on global warming could have a major impact on policy in Washington. The nation's most populous state is the world's 12th-largest emitter of greenhouse gases and could suffer dire consequences if global temperatures increase only a few degrees. California is the world's 6th-largest economy.
Governor Schwarzenegger in the breakthrough pushed for a market-based system that will eventually give companies tools to meet emissions targets, like carbon credit trading.
(Source: GWIC)
A U.S. Alliance to Update the Light Bulb
by: Matthew L. Wald 14 March 2007
WASHINGTON, March 13 — A coalition of industrialists, environmentalists and energy specialists is banding together to try to eliminate the incandescent light bulb in about 10 years.
In an agreement to be announced Wednesday, the coalition members, including Philips Lighting, the largest manufacturer; the Natural Resources Defense Council; and two efficiency organizations, are pledging to press for efficiency standards at the local, state and federal levels. The standards would phase out the ordinary screw-in bulb, technology that arose around the time of the telegraph and the steam locomotive, and replace it with compact fluorescents, light-emitting diodes, halogen devices and other technologies that may emerge.
Compact fluorescents are three times as efficient as old-fashioned bulbs, and light-emitting diodes six times as efficient. These also last much longer. But while they cost much less to run, they are more expensive to purchase, and getting home users to change the bulbs in the estimated four billion sockets in the United States would probably require eliminating the choice.
James E. Rogers, chief executive of Duke Energy and the co-chairman of one of the efficiency organizations in the coalition, the Alliance to Save Energy, said in a statement, "Encouraging our customers to use advanced compact fluorescent light bulbs and other energy-efficient lighting is fundamental to our plans to meet growing demand for electricity as economically as possible."
http://www.stopglobalwarming.org/sgw_read.asp?id=916253142007
Renewing a Call to Act Against Climate Change
by: Felicity Barringer 14 March 2007
MIDDLEBURY, Vt. — Some are born earnest, some achieve earnestness, and some have earnestness thrust upon them. Bill McKibben qualifies for inclusion in at least two of these wedges of humanity.
In 1989, at the age of 28, he achieved earnestness of a dour, frowning sort as one of the first laymen to warn of global warming in his book "The End of Nature." In the ensuing 18 years, he said recently while cross-country skiing in the woods near his home, he felt caught in a bad dream, forever warning heedless people of a monster in their midst.
Now, when Mr. McKibben is 46, his role as the philosopher-impresario of the program of climate-change rallies called Step It Up, has thrust new earnestness upon him. This time with a smile.
Mr. McKibben's title — scholar in residence at Middlebury College — seems far too passive to encompass his current frenetic pace. His online call for locally inspired, locally run demonstrations on April 14 has generated plans for a wave of small protests under the Step It Up banner — 870 and counting, in 49 states (not South Dakota) — to walk, jog, march, ski, swim, talk, sing, pray and party around the idea of cutting national emissions of heat-trapping gases 80 percent by 2050.
Skiers in Wyoming plan to descend a shrinking glacier. New Yorkers plan to form an unbroken human line (dress code: blue shirts) along what might be the new southern shoreline of Manhattan. A group of Dominican sisters and a Wisconsin environmental group are organizing a conference on Sisinawa Mound overlooking the Mississippi River.
http://www.stopglobalwarming.org/sgw_read.asp?id=911303142007
it's now on the record...and we've got a few Democrats that need to go
the usual suspects. Lieberloser, Ben Nelson and Mark Pryor.
United States Policy in Iraq Resolution of 2007 - Directs the President to begin the phased redeployment of U.S. forces from Iraq within 120 days of enactment of this joint resolution with the goal of redeploying by March 31, 2008, all U.S. combat forces from Iraq, except for a limited number essential for protecting U.S. and coalition personnel and infrastructure, training and equipping Iraqi forces, and conducting targeted counter-terrorism operations.
Requires the President to transition the U.S. forces' mission in Iraq promptly to such purposes.
States that such redeployment shall be implemented as part of a diplomatic, political, and economic strategy that includes sustained engagement with Iraq's neighbors and the international community in order to bring stability to Iraq.
Directs the President, not later than 60 days after enactment of this Act and every 90 days thereafter, to report to Congress on the progress made in such mission transition and force redeployment.
Thuggy Puggies obviously need more education on global warming and everything else.
How the Rich Are Destroying the Planet: A Review
By Leslie Thatcher
t r u t h o u t | Review
Thursday 15 March 2007
"Ingenuous comrades, there are bad men on the Earth. If you want to be an ecologist, you have to stop being a dummy." From Hervé Kempf's "How the Rich Are Destroying the Planet."
Kahlid Sheik Muhammed confessed to so many things...did he do the anthrax thing? and then that other time when Keith got some? and then that other one sent to the Edwards campaign?
torture is a many spendid thing. yeah, yeah, yeah, it was me, me, me.
what's funny is even the republics at work just shook their heads in shame and disgust. nobody over twelve believes this twisted fairy tale.
it's now on the record...and we've got a few Democrats that need to go
the usual suspects. Lieberloser, Ben Nelson and Mark Pryor.
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Lieberloser is a Party of Joe (he's no longer a Democrat).
Ben Nelson and Pryor ... DINO.
is the putz back from his latin american bad will tour? I was sorta hoping he would get lost ... maybe spend a year building his fortress in paraguay.
Posted by rjsnj on March 15, 2007 at 09:27 PM
yeah, rj...the guacamoron left and the mayan priests have cleansed the area. all better now.
Yep! He was right to opposing the patriot act.
Right on opposing Iraq.
Posted by rjsnj on March 15, 2007 at 09:22 PM
I had to pull something out of the laundry. but, yes, Russ Feingold has always had the guts to stand up and say something. We need 99 more of him.
what's funny is even the republics at work just shook their heads in shame and disgust. nobody over twelve believes this twisted fairy tale.
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at this point, nothing he says is believable. The Repubic-Cans are macho morons. They watched too many episodes of 24.
rj,
i'm saving that vote. it will do us some good come election time. there are some republic senators that will regret that vote.
good. nice job, harry and the forty co-sponsors, for getting it on the record.
Lieberloser is a Party of Joe (he's no longer a Democrat).
Ben Nelson and Pryor ... DINO.
Posted by rjsnj on March 15, 2007 at 09:40 PM
Joes already out. There's a few more that need to go. Landreau and Cli...., um well, there's just a few more that need to go.
;p
yeah, rj...the guacamoron left and the mayan priests have cleansed the area. all better now.
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LOL .....
Must have taken a ritual of epic proportions to purge those bad bush spirits.
the republic-can'ts is more like it// and i know they hate republic
i think i'll stick with that one. it's been a long day and malloy is going to be good tonight. time to focus on my unspoken rage...coming out of malloy
he's a real patriot...wish i could watch the hearing tomorrow...surely, cspan will play it again over the weekend.
msm should have a H&I channel (hearings, investigations and indictments)
goodnight and keep it lit~
good. nice job, harry and the forty co-sponsors, for getting it on the record.
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fade, yes it was good that Reid finally got them on the record. So, not one Repubic-Can voted for it. Not even Norm Coleman, Gordo Smith, Susan collins, etc... Okay, they want it that way, they got it. We'll get rid of them in 2008.
the republic-can'ts is more like it// and i know they hate republic
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republic-cants ... has a ring to it!
BBL
{{{FOS}}}
i didn't know you were here...
nice to see you--
goodnight and keep it lit~
Posted by fade2bluz on March 15, 2007 at 09:48 PM
Goodnight Fade. I have to get ready for work ( last day before the weekend ....yes!) so, I'm out for a bit.
TTYL.....I miss ya'll "real dems" .
bbl.
{{{FOS}}}
i didn't know you were here...
nice to see you--
Posted by fade2bluz on March 15, 2007 at 09:50 PM
That's okay. It was a slow day for 2008 so I just dropped in to chat.
TTYL.............
did he do the anthrax thing?
fade,
Yeah, he does seem to have gotten around. Somebody here yesterday that we were apparently all fooled thinking Bin Lauden was the 9/11 mastermind. But then Bush is the one who fingered him and we all know how he lies.
have fun, young'un
i'll read you later...
rj, i thought gordo did vote for it. could be wrong.
goodnight, youse guys
Curveball's false tales became the centerpiece of Secretary of State Colin Powell's speech before the United Nations in February 2003, even though he was considered an "unstable, immature and unreliable" source by some senior officials at the CIA.
This kind of garbage really pisses me off. The fact that some politicians will misrepresent or withhold the views of intelligence personnel experienced with this sort of investigation is disturbing. We all have an area of expertise and this one belongs to a select few who present a comprehensive account that must not be diced up to prove a point contested. The men and women who did this are as incompetent as they get.
Russ Feingold has always had the guts to stand up and say something. We need 99 more of him.
Posted by FreedomOfSpeechForBarackObama2008 on March 15, 2007 at 09:44 PM
FOS,
Who knows what might happen with the primaries being so early. Maybe a dark horse like Feingold will be drafted at the convention after the GOP swiftboats our candidate. Do you realize that Obama might have to wait over eight months after he wins the nomination?
This might be a first....but I actually agreed with something Gingrich said today about this early primary season being way too early and it's just plain crazy.
Posted by Marine on March 15, 2007 at 09:59 PM
Marine,
They did the same thing to the military...stretching and overextending a too small force not properly equipped or trained to do the job they we asked.
I think what they did to the intelligence and military communities is criminal and impeachable.
Off with their heads.
I gotta pack it in for the night, too. I have a lot of meetings tomorrow. Wish I could stay. This administration is getting more bizzare all the time.
Good night, all.
ABU MUSA
Island Dispute Between Iran and the UAE
Who does it belong too?
"Halliburton announced last month that it would spin off its 81 percent stake in KBR, its subsidiary that received more than 90 percent of its Pentagon contracts in 2006."
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My question if they are found guilty of war profiteering or any other crime, will Halliburton be responsible as a former owner and its CEO sent to jail? If they sell of a unit to avoid the law, is that not obstruction?
FrostyPerch are you an Evangelical Conservative, or a Right Wing Conservative
Senate Rejects Democrats’ Call to Pull Troops
By ROBIN TONER and JEFF ZELENY
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/16/washington/16cong.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
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Let these Senators know, every single one of them that voted against pulling the troops out of Iraq that you're going to vote them out of office and that you want to end the Iraq war now! Remind them they work for the American people and must do the will of the people. Click on link below to take action:
Now that Hillary sees that the surge in Iraq will probably work, she is saying that we will have to have troops in Iraq for many years to come.
Posted by FrostyPerch on March 15, 2007 at 11:19 PM
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Hillary is wrong about that and I think she will soon realize that when she goes over the news reports on how the horrible car bombs in Iraq almost every single day. Nothing in Iraq has changed, more of the same is still going on over there and any clear thinking person knows it's time to end this war.
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Four US troops killed in Baghdad
Four US soldiers have been killed by a roadside bomb that exploded near their vehicle in the Iraqi capital, Baghdad, the US military has said.
Read more:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6456733.stm
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Bomb blast attacks kill 12 Iraqis and another 25 people injured - thought to all be civilians.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6453861.stm
Car bombs are a constant threat in Iraq
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