Republican politicians are desperately looking for someone to be against that will go down well with the electorate. Democrats have suddenly gotten popular, so they're no longer such good targets. But, judging people on the basis of who they are or where they were born, instead of what they do and/or accomplish is so much easier. When they have to start comparing achievements, those who never do anything but make speeches are at a distince disadvantage.
That's not what cloth-coat Republicans used to be about.

SCREW FRED THOMPSON!
WHO CARES?

Excuse me, but when did Putin's Russia become one of our "allies?"

Russia stills fights America's interests tooth-and-nail in the U.N. She opposes the entry of the former Eastern Bloc nations into NATO. And Russians were in Saddam's hip pocket, providing him with weaponry and benefitting from the "Oil for Food" scandal.

If Russia is an example of an American ally, then forget our enemies. God save us from our friends!

Excuse me, but when did Putin's Russia become one of our "allies?"

Where have you been? Spunky looked into Putin's eyes and fell in love...and saw his mirror image. It was a marriage made in hell. For the first few years of his first term, Bush spent considerable time courting (and trying to fool) the Great White Bear.

Is it any surprise that our foreign policy is so screwed up? This doorknob actually "believed" the head of the former KGB was a wonderful man who believed in truth and justice....just like him.
Putin used capitalism to bolster his sagging economy and is now using it as a club against the energy starved West.

Condi and her vast expertise in Soviet affairs never suspected a thing. I guess she thought Reagan wasted his time?

If this is really the worst that the DNC can come up with then Fred Thompson may be a problem. Tough talk on the Russians and bad mouthing the French is not going to upset the average voter. Bad mouthing Mexican immigration could be down right popular. Unless we can find something a little more current than the S&L fiasco we may have to hope that he stays out of it to protect his kids from the press.

Hmmm. I'm not sure I dsiagree (although I'd like to know who exactly some of these perfectly nice French folk are.) He is absolutely dead-on about Russia. Ally? Well, maybe. They may not be Soviets anymore but don't forget these guys are aiding and abetting the Darfur genocide. There is exactly one independent radio station left in the USSR, I mean Russia. Putin and Bush have always gotten along - why not? They're peas in a pod.

Hmmm. I'm not sure I dsiagree (although I'd like to know who exactly some of these perfectly nice French folk are.) He is absolutely dead-on about Russia. Ally? Well, maybe. They may not be Soviets anymore but don't forget these guys are aiding and abetting the Darfur genocide. There is exactly one independent radio station left in the USSR, I mean Russia. Putin and Bush have always gotten along - why not? They're peas in a pod.

I may not like his position on other matters, but I agree with him that there needs to be a significantly tighter control on the southern border. The mexican workers themselves are not the problem; after all the mayority of them provide useful services. Its the uncontrolled reproduction of their family members that became US citizens and inmediately entitle their mothers to collect social benefits for the child as they see this as a right. They've learned very quickly that the social services of this country are fraught with the ineffectiveness of the morons that administer them.

I may not like his position on other matters, but I agree with him that there needs to be a significantly tighter control on the southern border. The mexican workers themselves are not the problem; after all the mayority of them provide useful services. Its the uncontrolled reproduction of their family members that became US citizens and inmediately entitle their mothers to collect social benefits for the child as they see this as a right. They've learned very quickly that the social services of this country are fraught with the ineffectiveness of the morons that administer them.

Steph.
I dont see your point.
The Mexican upperclass elite do grow richer by riding the backs of the poor. That government does in effect export their own people in order to draw money from US to bolster their economy.

Have the French not jailed people for incorrect speech?

Is Russia not run by ex-KGB? Does not the entire world make jokes about Putin bumping off his enemies?

If you have something rotten to say about Thompson, something of substance and not based on the pure desire to trash a Republican - let's hear it.

Did he say he hated kittens? That might be something to fuss about.

i agree with everything he said and if it offends these other countries so what! it true! and sometimes the truth hurts. would you rather have another liar for president? i wouldn't.

i agree with everything he said and if it offends these other countries so what! it true! and sometimes the truth hurts. would you rather have another liar for president? i wouldn't.

Hello?
What's wrong with what Fred Thompson said here?

If you all think Fred Thompson is out of line then the democrats ARE really out of touch and I'm on the wrong Blog!!!

Signed,

Xopher
Old School

Hello?
What's wrong with what Fred Thompson said here?

If you all think Fred Thompson is out of line then the democrats ARE really out of touch and I'm on the wrong Blog!!!

Signed,

Xopher
Old School

Another Republican for hate. The Repubs are making a campaign issue out of how many hate groups they can attract.
How low can you go?

Don't make it easy for the Republican Party by denying the reality of a factual statement. Putin is an ex-KGB agent as are many of his underlings. He has engaged in a long ethnic war against the Chechnyians where the Russian military has used the most brutal tactics imaginable against civilian populations. His critics DO have a disturbing tendency of turning up dead. He is not a friend of the United States. I know that we were all very hopeful when he first assumed office; but we now know that he has his own agenda that is at polar opposites to American Democratic values and a belief in human rights. Putin is increasingly turning his attention to dismantling what is left of the free press that blossomed after the fall of the Soviet government.

We can't be contrary just because a Republican said it's so, or because it may seem indelicate. The American people are sick and tired of indirect, overly calculated answers. On this issue Thompson is speaking the truth and if we are foolish enough to tap dance around Putin's conduct, we will alienate voters.

I gotta agree with the dissenters on this one. We gotta go after Thompson on issues that we have the solid footing on. There's no point in alienating 85% of the country who still lives in fear of Cold War Propaganda over this. Thompson is extremely difficult to pin down. We can nail his ideology all day, but being from TN, I can pretty much say that it's going to be tough to make a lot of things stick because despite being a right wing hack, he's a stand up guy.

This guys actually pretty smart. Conservative? Yea, but he's a pretty straight shooter, and them boys in the south love a straight shooter.

You said it, Perico. He is a straight shooter and what he said is right. He calls it like he sees it and hey, I agree with him.

Afte 8 years of president Bush, I would not vote for Fred Thompson, or any Republican, to save my life.

However, my political disposition is no excuse to sit by while this article attacks his comments.

I say this as a Democrat, as an opponent of strict immigration policies, and as a Mexican-American dual citizen who lived in Mexico a quarter of his life:

He Is Absolutely Right.

Mexico indeed has a policy of exporting and exploiting its citizens, and treating them as both an economic and a political commodity, whilst benefitting economically from it, and tightening its own borders.

They export their citizens to avoid feeding them, avoid hiring them, and to keep the flow of US-earned dollars coming into Mexico as a sort of artificial welfare for the country.

Immigration is, for Mexican politicians, what the "Global War on Terror" is for Republicans: an issue of convenience, and an opportunity to blame someone else for their own problems, their own crimes, and their own mistakes.

Both sides of the American immigration debate are distorted, exaggerated, and wrong: the xenophobes who think illegals are taking over, and the racists who think that no white man would do an immigrant's job. Both arguments are products of simple-monded intellectual charlatanry.

Fact: there is a labor shortage and immigrants are necessary for the economy. Fact: even if domestic labor doesn't meet the demand, we are still screwing over many poor, white Americans who would gladly pick strawberries, clean toilets, cut grass, and mop floors, if it paid them minimum wage.

The difference is we have a meaningful social security system that allows one to avoid slave labor as a means of subsistance. The Mexican social security system is a sham, and people would rather migrate and shovel manure for 3 dollars a day than watch their children starve to death. Most unemployed Americans are NOT exploiting the system or trying to get a free ride. Most of them would rather work, and would gladly take the illegal's job if they could compete.

Large corporations hire illegal aliens, and illegally pay them next-to-nothing. Under those conditions, even the relatively small demographic that is the unemployed American labor force, will always be disadvantaged by far more desperate illegals who are willing to be exploited and treated like dogs rather than die in Mexico.

So long as we keep talking about how we have to "crack down" on illegals and arrest starving people for the crime of being hungry, so long as we ignore the more pertinent issue of cracking down on corporations that hire illegals, we are making scape-goats out of victims, and letting the pimps go free.

So long as the Mexican government does everything in its power to maintain and promote a society of uneducated workers, so long as ultra-corrupt officials keep ransacking the Mexican treasuring and stealing tax-payer money, forcing Mexico to remain a third-world country despite having a first-world GDP ranking, so long as Mexico continues to demand everything from the US in terms of immigration policy without offering anything in return, and uses the issue as the basis of virrulent antiamerican propaganda, instilling hate and anti-yankee bigotry/paranoia in Mexican citizens, so long as they keep growing fatter off of their countrymen's blood and off of the American teat, these hypocritical and Machiavellian politicians will never be able to wash their hands clean of their crimes against the Mexican people, especially the Mexican illegals living in the US.

Thank you

Haha! The conservative bloggers are wrong again.

They are claiming that the DNC closed off discussion on this topic because too many Democrats agreed with Fred.

Wrong again...as usual.

Comments go off automatically, but we'll make a special exception since the right-winger bloggers have embarrassed themselves once again. Please, feel free to comment on what a joke they've become!

(DNC Staffer here)

Steph.
I dont see your point.
The Mexican upperclass elite do grow richer by riding the backs of the poor. That government does in effect export their own people in order to draw money from US to bolster their economy.

Have the French not jailed people for incorrect speech?

Is Russia not run by ex-KGB? Does not the entire world make jokes about Putin bumping off his enemies?

If you have something rotten to say about Thompson, something of substance and not based on the pure desire to trash a Republican - let's hear it.

Did he say he hated kittens? That might be something to fuss about.

Posted by GOEBubba on May 3, 2007 at 04:42 PM

Ok, since comments are back on for this because the cons are morons, I'll tell you what the point is, idiot. Your momma is a whore. That's the point. You're an inbred stupid hick.

What's the matter? Did I hurt your feelings? Let's try to work out our differences, even though you have a brain the size of a pea and probably won't understand half of what I say.

What, you still don't like what I'm saying to you, halfwit? Awww, are you gonna cry about it?

Getting the point yet, scumbag? Or shall I be LESS diplomatic and MORE insulting to you?

We cannot afford another EIGHT years of a President who basically tells the rest of the world they are shit. DO YOU GET THE POINT?!?

Posted by Supersexyspacemonkey on May 8, 2007 at 03:26 PM

An appropriate nomenclature, supersexyspacemonkey indeed. And as usual and with "republican" flare, only part of the argument, which is used as propoganda and to incite the sound bite culture and mindless sheeple who can only allow a certain level of information in, before their heads explode.

In an attempt to defend the subject of the post (On Topic Thompson) the blogger reveals the disturbing trend and position of this administration and the limits intellectually of their supporters. Additionally, one can only guess at the level of horror with which these poor people must live their daily lives.

Firstly, and this will take a minute to absorb, particularly if your head is getting ready to explode, WE, that is the United States, are not always the good guy. WE, and I say that with respect, meddle in other soverign nations affairs and for the most part, it is a self serving action.

Now for the simple minded, it is very easy to label everything as good versus evil. For the simple minded, we are always the good guy and everyone else, are the bad guys. It's the KISS princlple and dynamic and apparently you adher to that, as does Fred Thompson.

As the "good guy's" we are then able to criticize other countries governments and pass judgement on their systems. If those systems and cultures don't work for us and they do not serve our needs as the "good guys" we invade, maim, kill, occupy, and walk over the dead and innocent bodies, whilst announcing how "good" we are and how it is going to be so "good" for the people we invade and occupy. Provided they do what we want.

Who put us in charge? Who say's that we are the "good guys"? What are we a bunch of self congratulatory simple minded narcissists?

We have sucked the blood out of Mexico, Central and South America and we are doing the same in the middle east. It's easy,convienent and simple minded to blame their government or any foreign government. Want to know why Mexicans, Central Americans and Albanians are flocking here? Their jobs are disappearing to China, just like ours have. It's globalization, not immigration.

However, that is much, much too difficult for the simple minded sheeple and the simple minded sound bite riot inciters like Fred Thompson to get their heads around and that....is what drives the critics and most progressive and liberal democrats crazy.

You have 60 seconds and then your head will explode. That's just enough time to link to Hotair and spend some quality time with Michelle and her ilk.

I like Fred.

Who cares what any of these Republicans blogs think?
If they don't like the way we post, stay on their own blogs.

to: gnois

An appropriate nomenclature, supersexyspacemonkey indeed.

ooo, big word, are you a lebowski fan or what?

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And as usual and with "republican" flare, only part of the argument, which is used as propoganda and to incite the sound bite culture and mindless sheeple who can only allow a certain level of information in, before their heads explode.

i would ask you what the hell you're talking about, but you would claim i'm not smart enough to interpret your babbling.

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In an attempt to defend the subject of the post (On Topic Thompson) the blogger reveals the disturbing trend and position of this administration and the limits intellectually of their supporters. Additionally, one can only guess at the level of horror with which these poor people must live their daily lives.

in an attempt to sound so much more intelligent than everyone else, the blogger reveals just how hypocritical, confused and puny they must feel about themselves. additionally, one can only guess at the level of horror this person might prefer to live their daily lives by stripping away american ideals and adopting a liberal, socialist government.

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Firstly, and this will take a minute to absorb, particularly if your head is getting ready to explode, WE, that is the United States, are not always the good guy. WE, and I say that with respect, meddle in other soverign nations affairs and for the most part, it is a self serving action.

i wonder why you have such a chip on your shoulder? i really think it's a deep down feeling that maybe you are completely wrong and are realizing that the band-wagon you jumped on is un-american and going the wrong way, so you've resorted to such silly "i'm above you" tactics.... oh, and "we" meddle in other "soverign" nation's affairs? like who? fidel castro in cuba? the taliban in afghanistan? saddam hussien in iraq?

give me a moment... my feeble mind is trying to understand...

so you want to, "with respect", bash america?? the one true free country in the world? the one nation that is the first to arrive when people are being slaughtered by their government or ravaged by a national disaster? the one that gives more aid and sends more rescuers and more troops than any other nation? the one that has the military fortitude to stay and fight when all other nations would pull away and watch the bloodshed continue? you sound just like ahmadinejad in iran and hugo chavez in venezuela... they blame america and george bush for their problems.

those two have no problem stripping people of their rights, eliminating opposition, throwing people in jail - never to be heard from again, denying the holocaust ever existed and pledging to erase israel from the map... where poverty and corruption and violence and torture are common in their regimes and yet... they say things about america that sound just like YOU.

meanwhile, you sip starbucks at your air-conditioned office (or dormroom) and never have to worry about a suicide bomber taking you out because you were born different than they are. you enjoy an expanding, healthy economy and a constitution that affords you the right to post this sort of babble, and yet you do not hesitate to call it every bad word your (intellectually superior, supposedly) mind can think of.

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Now for the simple minded, it is very easy to label everything as good versus evil. For the simple minded, we are always the good guy and everyone else, are the bad guys. It's the KISS princlple and dynamic and apparently you adher to that, as does Fred Thompson.

for the simple minded, it is easy to confuse which side you're on. jump on wikipedia real quick and read up on socialism and communism and the brutal dictatorships that govern them. so the next time you're so sure we need to nationalize healthcare (an assumption because you are, apparently, a democrat) or raise taxes or slowly dismantle democracy in this country by socializing the government, or turn a blind eye to the death and suicide killings going on around the world because, well, we should not interfere (or someone might think we're "self-serving")... just remember that your liberal position falls in line with socialism... everything america has fought against since karl marx wrote a book.

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As the "good guy's" we are then able to criticize other countries governments and pass judgement on their systems. If those systems and cultures don't work for us and they do not serve our needs as the "good guys" we invade, maim, kill, occupy, and walk over the dead and innocent bodies, whilst announcing how "good" we are and how it is going to be so "good" for the people we invade and occupy. Provided they do what we want.

well, oh brilliant one, now, you sound like a sensationalist who tries to make it sound like we are the real terrorists. "provided they do what we want"? why not ask germany and japan how they're doing since we helped them establish their democracies? we invade? maim? kill? occupy? and walk over the dead and innocent bodies? who the hell are you? how can you call yourself an american and claim that our young men and women (kids that went to the same schools here as the rest of us) in the military do anything of that sort? have you forgotten that this is a volunteer army and your exalted democrats voted for the last war? have you any idea what speaking out against your own country and your leadership would get you in other countries? that's what fred's talking about. i think you, almighty big-brained one, take for granted where you live.

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Who put us in charge? Who say's that we are the "good guys"? What are we a bunch of self congratulatory simple minded narcissists?

you've described yourself perfectly. listen to yourself.

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We have sucked the blood out of Mexico, Central and South America and we are doing the same in the middle east. It's easy,convienent and simple minded to blame their government or any foreign government. Want to know why Mexicans, Central Americans and Albanians are flocking here? Their jobs are disappearing to China, just like ours have. It's globalization, not immigration.

sucked the blood out of mexico? if our economy is our country's life blood (hypothetically), illegal immigration is the leech that has been sucking at our blood, not the other way around... you have obviously no clue what you're talking about and you are precisely the one who is "simplifying" each different, independent reason america has had to fight oppression and socialism around the world. ohhhh, it's globalization... oh wow, yeah man. you're so right... wrong... people flock to this country because their governments are corrupt and will kill them before giving them basic human rights or a fighting chance at making their own fortune... like you can in america.

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However, that is much, much too difficult for the simple minded sheeple and the simple minded sound bite riot inciters like Fred Thompson to get their heads around and that....is what drives the critics and most progressive and liberal democrats crazy.

riot inciter? who? you know, you're trying so hard to sound clever that you're making yourself sound like a complete idiot.

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You have 60 seconds and then your head will explode. That's just enough time to link to Hotair and spend some quality time with Michelle and her ilk.

thanks, it's been fun.

DNC'ers-

I live in the epicenter of illegal immigration- Southern CA- and have gone to TJ/Baja/points south on several occasions. San Diego has some of the worlds priciest real estate but twenty miles south it's a whole different story. I agree with posters above: main reason is the corruption and indifference of the Mexican Federal and State Govt's.

Mexico has same weather as CA, more oil and natural resources than Southern CA yet is ten times poorer. Somehow many of the same folks who earn $5/day in Tijuana can claw their way out of poverty and into a middle class (or better- have you seen what skilled craftsmen charge?) life in the USA. Difference is, our Govts are not as corrupt as Mexicos...yet.

Problem is, we cannot accommodate the 40% of Mexicans who would rather live in the USA without destroying the wages of unskilled laborers. I agree that the corporations are only too happy to hire illegals as an easily exploitable workforce and Bush is only too happy to oblige them.

The problem with Fred Thompson is he's another George Bush. A redneck wannabe that'll sell out to the highest bidder. What makes anyone think he'll do more as President than he did as a Congressman?
The only Repulican candidate that seems to have a clue as to what's going on in the world today is Ron Paul.