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On Labor Day, Americans Celebrate--But Also Struggle To Get Ahead

Posted by Stephanie Taylor on August 31, 2007 at 01:50 PM

Americans are celebrating Labor Day this weekend, but even as we honor workers, new data from the Census Bureau shows that more and more Americans are struggling to get by.

Wages declined last year, as the number of Americans without health coverage rose to 47 million--including 600,000 more uninsured children. In honor of Labor Day, Governor Dean issued this statement:

"Americans across the country will observe Labor Day this weekend by honoring the contributions of America's working families. But under the failed leadership of President Bush and his Republican friends, wages have declined, the number of uninsured has increased, and gas and college costs have risen. Yet President Bush and his Republican allies continue to put their special interest friends ahead of American families.

"Democrats are keeping their promises to America's families. Under a Democratic Congress we have increased the minimum wage for the first time in over a decade, passed a bill to make college more affordable by cutting student loan interest rates, passed legislation to give health care to millions of low-income children and fought to protect workers' rights to bargain collectively and form unions. Instead of working with Democrats, Republicans prefer to block progress, and President Bush has threatened to veto legislation that is critical to America's working families.

"As we look towards 2008, the choice between the Republican and
Democratic presidential candidates is clear. All of the Democratic
candidates are committed to making sure the American Dream is available to everyone, while the Republican candidates want to continue President Bush's narrow special-interest agenda. Electing a Democratic president next year will ensure that America's working families come first."

Comments (30) «

Honestly I don't see the Democratic Party doing much at all for the working American. They are compromised by the DLC. If it was up to the Party leaders they'd give amnesty to 30 million illegal immigrants.

The Party touts the minimum wage as an accomplishment. If it wasn't for the millions of illegal immigrants that pour across our border there would be no need for a minimum wage. Market forces would have pushed labor rates for those service workers (such as Wal-Mart) that can't be outsourced far above the minimum wage.

Ted Kennedy claims he represents labor while he is constantly pushing to increase H1Bs and H1A visas for temp workers that take jobs from Americans.

The Democratic Party of FDR has long since put in mothballs, and now we have a DLC controllled party that is essentially GOP lite.

Here is an interesting ad:
http://reformus.org/

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Robson on August 31, 2007 at 06:10 PM

glad to see you got out of rehab, Thomas ! (btw, what a uptight anal name, instead of Tom)

What Happened to Labor Day? By Robert B. Reich

Our infatuation with low-priced goods has blinded us to their effect on labor.
A young person asked me not long ago - only half in jest - whether Labor Day was named in honor of natural childbirth.

Most young people today have no memory of a time when Walter Reuther of the UAW and John L. Lewis of the United Mine Workers were household names, when presidents jawboned labor to prevent agreements from causing wage-price inflation, when productivity gains pushed wages up, and when more than a third of the American workforce was unionized.

Now fewer than 8 percent of America's private sector workers are in unions, median wage gains have fallen far behind productivity gains, and for most of us Labor Day means a long weekend.

What happened? Some say it started in the early 80s after Ronald Reagan fired the nation's air-traffic controllers for striking - something they had no legal right to do - and thereby legitimized a wave of corporate union busting. Others blame it on a more pervasive "greed is good" aggressiveness that engulfed corporate suites starting right about then.

http://www.truthout.org/issues_06/083107LA.shtml

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PamB on August 31, 2007 at 08:22 PM

It's a shame that Corporate America is running the government and Bush the hillbilly is nothing more than their puppet. Corporate America has their hands in everything such as the War in Iraq and when it comes to illegal immigration. What it all comes down to is that these suits have way too much money and power. Labor needs to unite and take Corporate America's power away.

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Darien on September 1, 2007 at 06:34 AM

Hmm, last time I checked, 140 House Dems and 10 in the Senate voted against the bill that included the Min Wage raise.

Maybe Democrats should push legislation that, instead of giving people things and making them more beholden to the government, said legislation should empower them to take responsibility for themselves and their families.

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WTeach on September 1, 2007 at 08:03 AM

Maybe Democrats should push legislation that, instead of giving people things and making them more beholden to the government, said legislation should empower them to take responsibility for themselves and their families


Making a law that the minimum wage an employer can pay an employee is 'Giving people things'?

These people go out to work every day. They work at menial hard jobs because they have no skills, many brought up in low income households. To allow employers to rape them financially and use them almost like slaves is a disgrace to this country !

Here are a few things that Democrats brought forth over the years, that YOU yourself enjoy, Republican Sheep !

too bad we had to include you in these benefits, seeing as you like to do for yourself!

All of these accomplishments were initiated by the Democrats - most of them over strenuous opposition from Republicans.

8-hour workday
Social Security
Minimum Wage Law
G.I. Bill of Rights
Marshall Plan
NATO
Peace Corps
Medicare
Medicaid
Operation Head Start
Civil Rights Act of 1964
Voting Rights Act of 1965
Water Quality Act
Clean Air Act
First Man on the Moon
Women's Suffrage Amendment
Workers Compensation Act
Unemployment Compensation Act
Rural Electrification Act
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
Federal Home Loan Program
Securities & Exchange Act
Guaranteed Student Loan Program
Family and Medical Leave Act
School Lunch Program
Motor Voter Act
100,000 new police on U.S. streets
Balanced budget in 1998 as a result of the Balanced Act 1993

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PamB on September 1, 2007 at 08:20 AM

Here is a post from a Hilary Clinton supporter on the 2008 Election polls candidates blog:

Michael Davis has commented on http://usaelectionpolls.com/2008/candidates/Hillary-Rodham-Clinton.html

The message left:

"You guys spouting the "liberal" or "corporate" media are way off base. They sell out to the highest bidder (which is usually the government anyway). Currently Hillary has gotten the most from the media corporations in donations. During Bush's run he got the most."

"I hope one day each and everyone of you who have not woken up to democrats/republicans and liberal/conservative does not matter. Your real choices boil down to two things, freedom or slavery, and right now slavery is winning out."

If Hilary and the DLC wins -- SLAVERY wins against FREEDOM.

This is Hilary's "we are all ONE message of no left and no right" that the corporate media's RIGHT WING CONSERVATIVE "double-talk without merit supposed LIBERALS" spout, because the RIGHT WING DLC'S NEW LIBERALS, "ARE" EXTREME CONSERVATIVES under a false LIBERAL flag. "Double-talk without merit" worked so well with RIGHT WING communism that the RIGHT WING decided "double-talk without merit" would work for liberal as well. We the 70% LIBERAL MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION must not allow ourselves to continue to be deceived by these supposed liberals. The NEW in New Liberal is because they are no longer liberal, but EXTREME CONSERVATIVE.

The NEW LIBERAL is NOT liberal, the liberal name has been hijacked. You can know them by their fruits, the NEW LIBERAL is NOT Left Wing (real) liberal that will actually represent the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION having a living wage, lower taxes and real health care, any more than RIGHT WING COMMUNISM was for the COMMON POPULATION. The name was hijacked and used to suit the RIGHT WING CONSERVATIVE EXTREME. The RIGHT WING EXTREME uses "double talk without merit" to fool those who do not take the time to think. Do you think?

Hilary Clinton and all DLC are NEW LIBERALS (Republicans Lite) who WITHOUT A SECOND THOUGHT, plan to make slaves out of the 70% MAJORITY POPULATION.

UNMASKING THE "New Liberal"-Republican Lite DLC, Democratic Leadership Council:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stan-goff/unmasking-the-dlc_b_39287.html

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1463

REPUBLICANS LITE are not LIBERALS, but are DLC so called "NEW LIBERALS", who are not liberal at all.

DO NOT VOTE FOR HILARY OR ANY DLC CANDIDATE. The DLC undercover operation's cooperation with the RIGHT WING EXTREME is how our country got into the mess it is in today. The Left Wing has been cut off the "plane of state".

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_MarthaA on September 1, 2007 at 10:12 AM

Well Martha, when it is November 2008, and it is Hillary's name on the ballot vs probably Giuliani, I sure hope you will pull that lever for Hillary, because to do otherwise is to allow another Republican stack the Supreme court and all the other court with Radical Right wingers who will take our Rights back 100 years.

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PamB on September 1, 2007 at 11:36 AM

I wish people would stop calling Bush a "hillbilly" or a "cowboy"
I've known both hillbillys and cowboys. Most of them are multi-talented, hard working, and stuck at the bottom of the economic ladder.
Stop insulting hillbillys and cowboys!
Call Bush for what he really is!
Bush is a neer-do-well, selfish, spoiled brat over-pampered rich kid!
Just because he plays dumb and then claims to be either a hillbilly or a cowboy does not mean he is one!
He's no more a "hillbilly" or a "cowboy" than he is a black man from Rwanda. And I really doubt if the Rwandans would claim him either!

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Butte on September 1, 2007 at 12:01 PM

Pam, I refuse to vote for either Hillary or Obama.
Since we have good old fashioned paper ballots I can vote as I choose. I will write in Edwards if I have to.
It's about time the Democrat Losership Committee stops picking Republi-lite candidates and trying to stuff them down our throats, and ignoring the populists.
I am also NOT voting for "Montana Max" Bacchus if that Republi-lite sell out is on the ballot November 2008.
Enough is too much, we need REAL representation in Congress and in the White House and not another bunch of K-street sell-outs.
The DNC showed what it was made of in Montana when they refused to support populist Monica Lindeen against rubber-stamp Republican Denny Rheburg, and essentially blew her off leaving Montana with absolutely no representation in the House, since Rheberg just blows off his constituents.
I refuse to send donations to the DNC/DLC DCCC or DSCC at all because I want my donations to go to the candidates of MY choice and not to any more Republi-lite sell-outs!
The Democrat party needs to be brought back from the slippery slope that K-street is creating for it, and it's up to us voters to do it!

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Butte on September 1, 2007 at 12:13 PM

This county will never go anywhere UNTIL we get the OIL companies out of the government and out of politics. They OWN this country. And they OWN every American citizen if you know it or not.

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usahope1 on September 1, 2007 at 12:54 PM

PamB:

RIGHT WING/DLC deindustrialization has cost union labor jobs. Unless some wealthy people looking for United States long-term profit, instead of short-term profit using cheap labor overseas, reindustrializes the United States, the United States having a huge industrial labor force again is highly unlikely. It would be good to get industry started again in the United States, but I doubt it will ever happen because there would be no short-term profit.

Industrialization has been sacrificed for the short-term profit of financialization. Now the United States has more banks than churches, with less and less industry. New employment will have to be service type employment. Without a mogul choosing to spend the necessary money to reindustrialize the United States, the United States will not remain a superpower anymore than England, Spain and Sweden.

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ThomasG_ on September 1, 2007 at 03:36 PM

PamB:

RIGHT WING/DLC deindustrialization has cost union labor jobs. Unless some wealthy people looking for United States long-term profit, instead of short-term profit using cheap labor overseas, reindustrializes the United States, the United States having a huge industrial labor force again is highly unlikely. It would be good to get industry started again in the United States, but I doubt it will ever happen because there would be no short-term profit.

Industrialization has been sacrificed for the short-term profit of financialization. Now the United States has more banks than churches, with less and less industry. New employment will have to be service type employment. Without a mogul choosing to spend the necessary money to reindustrialize the United States, the United States will not remain a superpower anymore than England, Spain and Sweden.

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ThomasG_ on September 1, 2007 at 03:42 PM

PamB:
If the powers that be only give me the choices you specified of Hilary Clinton or Rudy Guiliani, then I will write in Mike Gravel and vote for Mike Gravel as President, and I will write in Dennis Kucinich and vote for Dennis Kucinich for Vice President. That way I will not lose my vote, and I hope millions of people do the same thing.

The fact that Hilary can get more corporate money does not mean one thing to me. Hilary is DLC-Republican Lite and DLC-Republican Lite is against the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION. I will never pull the lever for an EXTREME RIGHT WING REPUBLICAN.

You write all that stuff that OLD Liberal Democrats did ONCE, but since Republican Lite NEW Liberal democrats have taken over, there has been NOTHING DONE for the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION, only a taking away of all that the OLD Liberal Democrats did.

There is NO WAY any member of the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION should vote for Hilary Clinton, John Edwards, Bill Richardson or any member of the DLC who will COOPERATE and follow the REPUBLICAN'S DLC AGENDA, just like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

It is time DEMOCRATS to be done with following around sniffing the REPUBLICANS, and Mike Gravel and Dennis Kucinich are the best chance for the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION.

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_MarthaA on September 1, 2007 at 04:18 PM

PamB:
I will not vote for Obama either because he doesn't appear to me to be level headed enough to be in the presidency and I do not like the flippant way he talks about Pakistan. I am tired of the United States fighting in wars that are of no benefit to the American people, other than to make the plutocrats wealthier.

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_MarthaA on September 1, 2007 at 04:31 PM

PamB:

I do not and will not support professional middle class toady candidates of the Democratic Party that represent a traditional "buffer class" between the American aristocracy, a 10% minority population of the United States, and the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION that has existed since before the Revolutionary War in the United States.

I will "write in" candidates in the 2008 General Election who in my judgment will best represent the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION of the United States, the Working and Poor Class and Culture.

At present, I favor Mike Gravel for President and Dennis Kucinich for Vice President. And, at present, I intend to "write in" and vote for Mike Gravel for President and Dennis Kucinich for Vice President.

The "buffer class", the professional middle class, between the American aristocracy and the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION, will select their own toady candidate for the Democratic Party to represent their interests, either Hilary Clinton or Barak Obama.

If the COMMON POPULATION can get a substantial showing with "write in" candidates in the upcoming 2008 General Election to demonstrate the will of the COMMON POPULATION, it will be one step forward in the journey of the COMMON POPULATION'S POLITICAL MOVEMENT away from being 21st Century American Helots.

For anyone who thinks that professional middle class toadies will represent anything other than their own class and cultural interests and the interests of the American aristocracy, I suggest that you read, "A Peoples History of the United States 1492 to the Present" by Howard Zinn.

The 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION must cease to be political sleepers and take their class and cultural place as leaders of both the Democratic Party and the Government of the United States. The 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION must struggle politically for however long it takes to achieve the goal of dominating power and control in both the Democratic Party and the Government of the United States; winning and losing are irrelevant to the aims of this goal. The only thing that matters is that the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION engage in an ongoing class and cultural struggle against the duopolistic interests of the American aristocracy and the professional middle class that is in the political interest of the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION, and that the struggle must continue until the class and culture of the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION, the Working and Poor Class and Culture, has achieved dominant political power and control over both the Democratic Party and the Government of the United States.

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ThomasG_ on September 1, 2007 at 05:49 PM

PamB:

Since you had the temerity to talk to MarthaA, this post is for you.

The Democratic Party and the Republican Party represent the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION in the same way that the State governments and the Federal government represented the interests of the Native people of the Native Nations of the United States; both the State and Federal Governments worked together to dispossess the peoples of the Native Nations of everything that they possessed and both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party work together to harvest and dispossess the 70 MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION of the United States of all that they possess and will in future possess; this must end, and the only way this can end is if the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION takes class and cultural control and power over both the Democratic Party and the Government of the United States -- this must be the political objective of the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION of the United States.

Political power springs from either the TOP, the American aristocracy, or the BOTTOM, the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION, the Working and Poor Class and Culture; the 20% minority of professional middle class toadies that YOU represent, "suck up" to the American aristocracy when the American aristocracy are in power, and "suck up" to the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION when the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION is in power. The 20% class and cultural minority professional middle class toadies are "suck ups" and do not stand for representing anything other than their own class and cultural interests, and will "suck up" to either the American aristocracy or the COMMON POPULATION, and are therefore a worthless bunch of politically opportunistic toadies that need to be eliminated from both the Democratic Party and the Government of the United States; all that can be done to dislodge the politically opportunistic toadies of the professional middle class from their strangle hold that subjugates the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION is not enough. We, the COMMON POPULATION, must struggle harder and work longer until the parasitic infestation of professional middle class toadies is ELIMINATED as an obstacle to the ascension of power and control by the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION of the United States over BOTH the Democratic Party and the Government of the United States.

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ThomasG_ on September 1, 2007 at 06:27 PM

well thomas and martha, if you have such little regard for this United States of america, that you would throw away your vote on a 3rd party candidate, or someone who could not win if he was the only one running, then it shows the mentality of you people in MN !

What you would do, is "GIVE" your votes to the Republican. YES, that is exactly right. By not giving them to the Democrat, you forfeit them to the Republican. You allow them to win.

And by their winning, Giuliani or romney (or maybe gingrich should they be stupid enough to choose him), will continue this destruction of our country that you have been harping about for the last 4 years! The Republians have had the majority of Congress for the last 14 years, and the Presidency along with it for almost 7. In that time, they have turned the Supreme Court into Right wingers, they have taken us into an illegal invasion, they have turned a surplus into a deficit again, they have done much, much more destruction with gasoline prices, Katrina, Terri Schiavo and our end of life decisions, they have saddled our children with debt they will never pay off in their lifetimes.

So you go right ahead with your bullish, close minded votes and should the Republicans get in again, I NEVER want to see either one of you on this blog complaining another day in my lifetime! Don't you DARE come in here with your rants. It is the ill informed people in this country who got us where we are.


THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

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PamB on September 1, 2007 at 09:02 PM

PamB:
I have little regard for the DLC, and the Democratic Party to the extent that it is infested by the Democratic Leadership Council, the DLC, the 20% minority of the professional middle class toadies for the American aristocracy that "toady up" to the American aristocracy and represent the interest of the American aristocracy to the exclusion of the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION, the Working and Poor Class and Culture. My posts were rather clear about professional middle class toadies; profession middle class toadies and the Democratic Leadership Council, DLC, are one and the same.

The American aristocracy together with their professional middle class toadies as a "buffer" ruled over, oppressed and tyrannized the 70% MAJORITY POPULATION in colonial times prior to, during, and after the Revolutionary War and do so today in the form of the Democratic Party and the Democratic Leadership Council, DLC.

I have nothing against the Democratic Party and the U.S. Government other than the fact that they are both infested with American aristocracy and professional middle class DLC toadies; when this condition is remedied by the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION, the Democratic Party will be just fine with me, but not until the Democratic Party represents the interests of the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION.

Pam Bergren, as for what you want or think, I do not give a care, and I don't think anyone else in the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION gives a care.

I am representative of the interests of the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION, and if you don't like it, get used to it, because we will keep going until all of you DLC toadies of the professional middle class that join in cooperation and duopoly with the American aristocracy are together with the American aristocracy purged from both the Democratic Party and the U.S. Government.

I am interested in the Democratic Party and the U.S. Government representing the best interests of the class and culture of the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION of the United States; so far as I am concerned, anything less is unacceptable. If you don't like it, get used to it. What you think or want is irrelevant. The only thing that is relevant is whether or not the Democratic Party and the U.S. Government represents the best interests of the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION as a class and culture.

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ThomasG_ on September 1, 2007 at 11:26 PM

PamB:

I have a great regard for the United States and certainly do not plan to throw away my vote. Mike Gravel has GRIT and he is a DEMOCRAT. Dennis Kucinich has a backbone and he is a DEMOCRAT. Neither Mike Gravel nor Dennis Kucinich are cooperators with the American aristocracy against the will of the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION. Both of the DEMOCRATS that I am going to vote for are honorable and will represent the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION. Voting for DLC candidates like Hilary Clinton, Barak Obama, John Edwards, or Bill Richardson that do not represent the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION would not be of any benefit to the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION as the DLC cooperates with the REPUBLICANS and excludes representation of the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION. For the COMMON POPULATION to vote for a DLC Candidate is a WASTED VOTE. The DLC winning an election to maintain their infestation of the Democratic Party against the will of the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION is a LOSS for the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION. My mentality is to get the DLC infestation out of the Democratic Party and the Congress of the United States.

Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel are not a third party as you would like to present them. Both are Democratic Party candidates and voting for a Democrat does not give your vote to a Republican. You have tried that on the wrong person. As a DLC Democrat, Hillary Clinton, Barak Obama, John Edwards, Bill Richardson or any other DLC candidate WOULD BE A WASTED VOTE for the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION.

The Republicans could not have done all the damage that was done without DLC help. Therefore one cannot ONLY blame the REPUBLICANS as you do, without realizing that the DLC had a hand in what was destroyed in the past 14 years. The battle is not between the Democrats and Republicans. The battle is over whether or not the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION of the United States will be represented by the Democratic Party and rule in the government of the United States based on their majority.

Should the REPUBLICANS get in again, it will be because you and others like you have supported the DLC and enabled a REPUBLICAN VICTORY.

You, Pam Bergren, are DLC and have been since I have been posting on this blog. It is time for the DLC to be changed out. The 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION are ascending and the DLC are descending. Get used to it.

VOTE GRASSROOTS

VOTE FOR MIKE GRAVEL for President -- "GRAVEL has GRIT"

VOTE FOR DENNIS KUCINICH for Vice President -- "KUCINICH has BACKBONE"

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_MarthaA on September 2, 2007 at 12:10 AM

I choose to "write in" Dennis Kucinich for Vice President and "write in" Mike Gravel for President, then after 8 years, I choose Dennis Kucinich for President for the next 8 years; in that 16 year period the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION will get completely rid of ALL the vichy DLC infestation of the Democratic Party, and return the Left Wing's representation in government of the United States to the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION, who are represented by the Democratic Party, just haven't been being represented by the vichy DLC infestation of the Democratic Party.

NO vichy DLC democrat represents the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION. What has to happen in United States government will take GRIT.

Mike Gravel has GRIT, but he is old, he will have to be 1st. I feel confident and secure that these two honorable and patriotic men will do their best to return the Left Wing of the United States Government to its rightful place where the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION will have representation in the United States Congress. Currently, the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION have NO REPRESENTATION in the United States Congress.

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_MarthaA on September 2, 2007 at 10:22 AM

Jaxter:

BUSH made it clear when he was put in office that he would take care of his BASE, and BUSH has done a fine job of taking care of his BASE.

The REPUBLICANS will not help the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION unless their help is of benefit to their BASE, and the REPUBLICANS BASE IS the 10% at the TOP, although the REPUBLICANS will give the illusion that REPUBLICANS are helping the COMMON POPULATION, but its propaganda. REPUBLICANS will not; NEITHER WILL THE DLC, REPUBLICAN Lite "New Liberal" democrats actually help the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION. ONLY "OLD LIBERALS" who are NOT of the DLC are concerned about living wage employment, help for the small businessman, justified taxes and the welfare of the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION.

The economy is strong for the controlling TOP 10%. Therefore, the DLC, "New Liberal" REPUBLICAN LITE Democratic Leadership Council's 20% professionals class suckers, "suck up" to the REPUBLICANS, the 10% controlling TOP, and TOGETHER the TOP 30% have chosen to use and rule over the rest of the country, a controlling 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION against their best interest as slaves to the corporate and professional classes in one form or another to support them, like was done to the Jews in Egypt in biblical times.

The REPUBLICANS with the help of the vichy DLC supposed democrats have changed the bankruptcy bill to where it is of NO HELP anymore to the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION. Whatever one owes is to be extracted to the uttermost, therefore it is of the gravest concern for the 70% COMMON POPULATION to get themselves out of debt and not get into debt if at all possible.

$80,000. is a massive loss, which will be hard to suffer, but it will be of little concern to REPUBLICANS or the vichy DLC democrats. It is time for the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION to realize that the 20% of the COMMON POPULATIONS majority that think they are REPUBLICANS are deceived, and rejoin the 50% Democratic COMMON POPULATION so that the COMMON POPULATION will have the numbers to be able to defeat this REPUBLICAN onslaught to our democratic freedoms. WE THE PEOPLE NEED SOLIDARITY OF THE 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION voting for Mike Gravel for President and Dennis Kucinich for Vice President. Do not buy the REPUBLICAN "free and equal" PROPAGANDA promoted by the DLC.

In order to keep from becoming slaves and leaving slavery for posterity, WE THE PEOPLE, the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION, need to solidify the vote for Mike Gravel, a GRASSROOTS DEMOCRAT.

Mike Gravel will not be picked by the DLC, so he will have to be a "write in". Write Mike Gravel in and place your VOTE for President for Mike Gravel, then write in Dennis Kucinich as Vice President. By "writing in" the candidates WE THE PEOPLE choose, WE THE PEOPLE, the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION, can avoid voting for only the TWO CHOICES the DLC will give us to vote for.

EVERYBODY "write in" Mike Gravel for President and "write in" Dennis Kucinich for Vice President. If everyone will do it WE THE PEOPLE will be able to dump the DLC.

Also, all Congressional positions in the House and 1/3 of the Senate can be voted out in the 2008 Election, and it will behoove the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION to solidify and do so.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12899506

To check out the DLC and learn the DANGER to the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION peruse the following sites:

http://www.nndb.com/group/269/000093987/

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1463

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stan-goff/unmasking-the-dlc_b_39287.html

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/081007J.shtml

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_MarthaA on September 2, 2007 at 07:28 PM

PamB:

I should think that after all of the years YOU and YOUR ilk have had cooperating with the CONSERVATIVE RIGHT WING REVOLUTION and helping to get the United States into a $59 TRILLION NATIONAL DEBT, while supporting such stellar candidates as Al Gore and John Kerry, that YOU and YOUR KIND of DLC toady opportunists would be to ashamed to say anything at all on this blog.

However, be that as it may; you, like all of the other toady middle class opportunists, don't seem to know the difference, and I am quite certain that you will still be running your dead horse losers as winners on one hand, and cooperating with the REPUBLICANS to the detriment of the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION on the other, not only in this election, but until your time is over on this earth, that is your role for your class and culture, the TOADY CLASS & CULTURE of PROFESSIONAL MIDDLE CLASS COOPERATORS with the REPUBLICANS.

The difference is that now, the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION know you and your DLC Democrat ilk for what they are, Vichy Democrats that cooperate with the REPUBLICANS to the exclusion of the 70% MAJORITY WORKING AND POOR CLASS AND CULTURE.

So, go peddle your propaganda about picking a winner that don't support the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION somewhere else, the COMMON POPULATION has had ENOUGH of your DLC Democrat cooperation with the REPUBLICANS, and your winners that always lose, and would not have represented the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION even if they had won.

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ThomasG_ on September 2, 2007 at 08:05 PM

PamB:

Why on earth do you think that the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION should support and vote for DLC democrat candidates that represent toadies of the professional middle class and their overlords of the American aristocracy to the exclusion of the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION.

I understand why you and your professional middle class toadies for the American aristocracy support DLC democrats; it is because DLC democrats represent the interests of your class and culture of professional middle class toadies for toadies for the American aristocracy, along with the American aristocracy; your winner is the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATIONS loser, because if your winner wins, the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION loses, and if the American aristocracy's REPUBLICAN candidate wins, the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION loses.

With DLC Democrat winners and REPUBLICAN winners, the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION is not represented in either the Democratic Party or the Government of the United States.

If the Democratic Party wants the support of a united 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION of the United States, the Democratic Party MUST provide representation politically for the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION.

Hilary Clinton, Barak Obama and the other DLC candidates of the Democratic Party, other than Mike Gravel and Dennis Kucinich do not in any way provide any degree of political representation for the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION.

If you and the Democratic Party want the support and votes of the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION for the Democratic Party, how do you and the Democratic Party propose that the Democratic Party will represent the political interests of the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION as a class and culture?

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ThomasG_ on September 2, 2007 at 08:25 PM

I have read all the people writings. Some are educated in the platform of the Democratic party and some are just fighting for a good fight.

The Democratic will always be for the people all classes. Democrats believe that all the people should take a step or so up the latter of success.
I am surprised that you so soon have forgotten how everyone was prospering and people came off welfare by flocks, under Clintons plans for America.

It will be the same way if the Clintons get back in the Whitehouse. They both are brillant and have learned a lot of what to do and what not to do while they served.

I believe the only people that can't see the advantage of having the Clintons back in the WhiteHouse are the hard line NeoCons.

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freeforall on September 3, 2007 at 02:29 PM

Say THANK YOU, America, to REPUBLICAN PARTY/Democratic Party Vichy DLC Democrat Cooperators

Say thank you, America, to REPUBLICAN PARTY/Democratic Party Vichy DLC democrat cooperation that resulted in $59 TRILLION of hidden taxes that every man, woman and child has been obligated, by REPUBLICAN/Democratic PARTY DUOPOLY to pay back together with interest. This is a really good reason to support and vote for more of the same Vichy DLC Toady Democrat Cooperators with the REPUBLICAN PARTY, don't you think?

With a few more years of DLC Democrat/REPUBLICAN PARTY DUOPOLY, these duopolistic criminals and cooperators should be able to run the NATIONAL DEBT of the United States up to $100 TRILLION by way of hidden taxes in pursuit of low direct taxation; don't you think? Will you think? Think and end the DLC Democrat/REPUBLICAN PARTY "Ponzy Scheme" of hidden taxes to lower direct taxes at $59 TRILLION, rather than $100 TRILLION.

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ThomasG_ on September 3, 2007 at 03:04 PM

freeforall:
I hear one of Charles Ponzi's relatives got back into the United States and is selling swampland in Florida, I hear he is a really brilliant investor, and it sounds like from your post that you would be interested in the Florida real estate that Charlie Ponzi has to sell.

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ThomasG_ on September 3, 2007 at 03:11 PM

PamB:

You and your DLC toady democrats have the temerity to think that "you people", in righteous indignation against those who remind DLC toady democrats of their own vichy cooperative toady behavior since the time of Reagan, can continue to lead the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION against the COMMON POPULATION'S best interest, and in the interest of toady DLC democrats and REPUBLICAN PARTY DUOPOLY. "You people", DLC toady democrats, always have the same song and dance. DLC toady democrats are the ones that sold the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION down the river to a culture of corruption and incompetence, a $59 TRILLION NATIONAL DEBT for hidden taxes, a plethora of laws against the interest of the COMMON POPULATION and both a government and judiciary packed with CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN RIGHT WING EXTREMISTS and vichy democrat cooperators; all of which are a part of a parasitic political infestation that will take years for the COMMON POPULATION to purge from the U.S.Government.

You and your DLC toady vichy democrat ilk should all be too ashamed of your behavior, since the time of the Reagan administration to the present, to show your faces or even say anything at all on this or any other blog; the fact that "you people" continue to do so is indicative of the obvious fact that you and all the rest of the DLC toady vichy democrats are sociopathic political opportunists working and cooperating with the REPUBLICANS of the American aristocracy directly and intentionally against the best interests of the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION in your own duopolistic greedy interests to loot and squander the communal resources of the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION that the U.S. Government harvests from the COMMON POPULATION.

Shame on you, and all the rest of you DLC toady vichy democrats that live in your gated and walled communities apart from the COMMON POPULATION and like parasites infest the government, leach off of the resources of the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION, and use the COMMON POPULATION as the Greeks used the Helots. For shame. Shame on you and all of your vichy ilk.

You know as well as I do that it is time for a change in the best interest of the 70% COMMON POPULATION. It is time for the COMMON POPULATION to lead and control both the Democratic Party and the U.S. Government and DLC toady vichy democrats are fearful that the time is coming for DLC toady vichy democrats to pay for their vichy DLC toady democrat behavior.

Change is coming along with the bitter medicine of DLC toady vichy democrats having to pay for DLC toady vichy democrat cooperative behavior in cooperation with the REPUBLICAN PARTY; I am certain that all of you people, DLC toady vichy democrats, will whine and complain about the tangled web "you people", DLC toady vichy democrats, have woven yourselves into, but "you people" have made your own bed with a web of lies, deception and cooperation with the REPUBLICANS as your own trap, get used to it, the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION no longer needs vichy DLC toady democrat services. Vote yourselves in with your own 20% minority professional middle class constituency along with the 10% minority American aristocracy constituency that you represent, if "you people" can. Your services are no longer required by the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION.

The COMMON POPULATION is becoming aware that it is a 70% MAJORITY class and cultural population of the United States and as this awareness grows the power and control of vichy DLC toady democrats and the REPUBLICAN PARTY shrinks. Get used to it.

It is time for the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION to take power and control over both the Democratic Party and the U.S. Government; the winds of change are blowing in favor of the COMMON POPULATION and year by year the winds of change are blowing stronger and stronger. As class and cultural awareness in the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION grows, the MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION will look more and more on all of you vichy DLC toady democrats much the same as French citizens did upon Marie Antoinette.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Antoinette

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ThomasG_ on September 3, 2007 at 04:00 PM

PamB:

You and your professional middle class toadies for the American aristocracy were pushing your DLC candidate, Al Gore, and guess what, Al Gore turned out to be a LOSER.

You and your professional middle class toadies for the American aristocracy were pushing your DLC candidate, John Kerry, and guess what, John Kerry turned out to be a LOSER.

NOW, you and your professional middle class toadies for the American aristocracy are pushing your DLC candidate, Hilary Clinton, and guess what, Hilary Clinton is another LOSER.

The 2008 General Election will confirm you and your professional middle class
DLC toadies for the American aristocracy and your DLC candidates as "three time LOSERS".

How is it that "you people" can keep on harping about supporting a WINNER year after year, when you and your professional middle class DLC toadies for the American aristocracy are always backing LOSERS as the only candidates that have a chance of winning?

"You people", like the REPUBLICANS, have confidence without merit. Confidence without merit is the only rational explanation for "you people" always picking LOSERS as WINNERS. Confidence without merit has worked for toady DLC vichy democrats and CONSERVATIVE RIGHT WING REPUBLICAN EXTREMISTS, since the time of Reagan, but that time has passed. Get another sthick, DLC confidence without merit is all used up and has no credibility with the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION.

"You people" and your DLC democrat confidence without merit, like REPUBLICAN confidence without merit that resulted in hidden taxes by way of a $59 TRILLION NATIONAL DEBT, is no longer acceptable to the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION. You, as a DLC democrat, along with all of the other DLC democrats and your REPUBLICAN overlords, have made yourselves losers, and the COMMON POPULATION knows all of you for the losers that you are. How can you and your REPUBLICAN friends keep on losing and screwing up everything you touch, and still keep harping on being winners; if you can have just one more chance? I would think that you and your DLC losers and your REPUBLICAN overlords would more appropriately hide your heads in shame for being the pathetic losers that you are.

http://www.nndb.com/group/269/000093987/

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ThomasG_ on September 3, 2007 at 04:56 PM

PamB:

DLC Hilary is one of the DLC who COOPERATED WITH the REPUBLICANS to stack the Supreme Court and all the other courts with either radical RIGHT-WINGERS or radical DLCers as Hilary Clinton represents the Republican Lite DLC New faux far RIGHT Liberals.

Hilary Clinton does not in any way represent the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION, the Working and Poor Class and Culture. Hilary is of the NEW CLASS, THE PROFESSIONAL CLASS, THE NEW MIDDLE CLASS. Our rights being taken back 100 years was accomplished with the assistance and complete COOPERATION of CONSERVATIVE RIGHT LITE NEW MIDDLE CLASS HILARY CLINTON AND HER HUSBAND, President Bill Clinton. There is NO WAY all the detrimental damaging effect democracy and the economy has suffered could have been done by ONLY the REPUBLICANS. The REPUBLICANS have been and are currently being assisted by the NEW Democrats, the DLC Democrats who are NEW RIGHT WING EXTREME LIBERALS, like Hilary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. These DLCers aren't stupid, they are following a RIGHT WING "Project For The New American Century" plan to destroy the infrastructure of our country and all safety nets for the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION in our country as well as all other countries, so that the CONSERVATIVE RIGHT WING EXTREME will reign all over the world.

And, Pam, if you are concerned about the judges, you are supporting the wrong candidate. Hilary is not of the least bit concerned what happens to the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION. Hilary will say whatever is necessary to say in order to get voted in, but once she is in, she will do exactly what she wants to, as the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION ARE BELOW THE NEW CLASS, THE NEW MIDDLE CLASS OF WHICH HILARY IS A CONSTITUENT as is Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

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_MarthaA on September 4, 2007 at 12:47 AM

I strongly believe if any bail out of this crisis is totally UNFAIR and encourage restlessness behavior and condon greed,irresponsibility.The gvnment bailed in 1987 for the crash then after that the S&L then 1998 the LTMC and now this.Greedy experts in the field lent to people who have bad credit which means did not pay 1% yes 1% of their loans to maintain a good credit,stated income thus no ability to pay and no down,irresponsible nothing for the rainy days so that they can flip and create the bubble .The gvnmt has harmed the old retirees on a fixed income and has completely ignored their misery .We worked hard to save for the golden years and saw our 401k disappeared on the bubble created by an excess liquidity to bail out others and low interest rate thus very little for our CD while the inflation of the daily life on food,energy,health care are tremendous,not the calculated inflation Mr. greenspan low interest rate and excess liquidity really harmed us,old fashion retirees and I wonder what will happen if you bail those greedy,irresponsible people again and again?
Sincerely,
a struggling retiree due to this unfair policy !!! we retirees do need a lodging as well !!!please bail us,give us a house as well !!! we lost ours when we had to sell to survive the enormous medical bill the last few years !!!!

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thuanhoa on September 4, 2007 at 02:59 AM


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