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Good morning, all.
2014? Hhmm.
Maybe our troops will be home by then to see it with their families?
Mars in the Morning: Red Planet Grows Brighter
Joe Rao
SPACE.com Skywatching Columnist
SPACE.com
Fri Sep 28
Mars is coming
You've probably heard that line before – no doubt fairly recently, thanks to a bogus e-mail that unfortunately received wide circulation on the Internet this summer with promises of Mars being as big as the full moon.
But this fact is absolutely true: Mars, the only planet whose surface we can see in any detail from the Earth, is now moving toward the best viewing position it will provide to us until the year 2014. Planet watchers have already begun readying their telescopes...
news.yahoo.com/s/space/20070928/sc_space/marsinthemorningredplanetgrowsbrighter
Success breeds imitation?
Leave it to Rove and Cheney to launch a new career even while they are still working out of the White House. Apparently, the conservative think tanks...tanked when it came to really confusing people over long periods of time?
Outsiders aim to frame political debate
By JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Writer
Sat Sep 29
WASHINGTON - They raise millions of dollars, conduct provocative ad campaigns, work with a vast network of like-minded allies and have the power to frame the presidential election going forward as much as the candidates themselves.
That used to define only the liberal MoveOn.org, an organization of 3.3 million members that has raised $25 million in the past 18 months and is helping spearhead an anti-war coalition.
Now, a group of conservatives and Republicans with close ties to the White House have formed their own enterprise, Freedom's Watch, landing on the political scene with a $15 million ad campaign to defend President Bush's Iraq war strategy.
But this is just the start. Its organizers don't see themselves as the single-cause Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, who aimed to sink John Kerry's presidential bid in 2004. Instead, they hope to fill what they say is a void on the right, becoming a permanent, well-financed conservative voice on social, economic and national security issues.
"We decided to build something that transcends election cycles," said Bradley Blakeman, the president of Freedom's Watch and a former deputy assistant to Bush. "What we decided was to build an organization that is a never-ending campaign."
As such, Freedom's Watch and MoveOn.org could be the left and right bookends not only on the war, but on a number of issues that will decide the 2008 elections and shape congressional debate beyond. Freedom's Watch organizers said they are considering whether to create a political subgroup, like MoveOn has, that could directly play a role in elections.
When Blakeman speaks of "we," he is referring to "friends, former administration people, party leaders, decision makers." Unlike MoveOn, which has its roots in California's Silicon Valley, Freedom's Watch is clearly a Washington creature.
Many in its inner circle of strategists and donors are close to Vice President Dick Cheney or held high posts at the White House. Blakeman, whose 26-year-old nephew died when the World Trade Center collapsed in the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, was director of scheduling and appointments at the Bush White House.
Among those who brainstormed with him this summer was Mary Matalin, Cheney's counselor until 2003 and still an adviser to the vice president. Ari Fleischer, the former White House spokesman, is a member of the Freedom's Watch board.
The group's donors include Mel Sembler, a friend of Cheney's and longtime Republican fundraiser. Sembler was chairman of the legal defense fund for I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Cheney's former chief of staff who was convicted of lying and obstruction of justice in the investigation into the leak of a CIA operative's identity. Another donor is Kevin E. Moley, a former U.S. ambassador to international organizations in Geneva and a senior aide to Cheney during the 2000 presidential campaign.
The group organized itself as a nonprofit lobbying organization and, unlike political organizations that advocates for or against candidates, is not required to identify its donors. Still, when it launched its multimillion-dollar ad campaign on the war in August, Blakeman listed some of its supporters, several of them pro-Israel conservatives...
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070929/ap_on_el_ge/outsiders_politics;_ylt=AgDCkTVDI9bNQV3C9hIQc8KyFz4D
Political outsiders? It sounds more like the Fourth Branch of the Federal Govenment has no plans of giving up power....and they've paired up with IAPEC to start WW III beginning with a push to attack Iran.
Leave it to Rove to bastardize any new form of democracy that springs up and find a way to exploit it for Cheney's fascist agenda.
Good bye, Heritage Foundation. Hello, Freedom's Watch...more like Big Brother's Watch.
FDA officials: Cold meds not for kids
By ANDREW BRIDGES, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - Very young children simply should not take some commonly used cold and cough medicines, federal health officials say in recommending that the "consult your physician" advice to parents on the labels be dropped...
..."The basic question is, why should a product be so relentlessly marketed when it's not safe or effective?" said Dr. Joshua Sharfstein, Baltimore's health commissioner. "It does not make sense, in the absence of information, to say 'consult a physician,' because they do not have superhuman powers. They cannot make a product safe or effective."...
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070929/ap_on_he_me/cold_and_cough_medicines
After being bombarded for the last seven years with TV ads telling us that we NEED all kinds of drugs whether we know if we have the disease or symptoms or not...now somebody finally figures it out that maybe not only didn't we need them but that it can be dangerous?
I guess the AMA got tired of their members having the ball passed off on them (along with the malpractice cases)...or perhaps even the drug companies didn't like all the resulting litigation and bad PR when a drug failed.
NOW they would much prefer that the FDA just go back to doing their job.....
Protecting the public by really testing these drugs before letting the marketers use citizens as guinea pigs.
Gee, maybe government is a necessary thing after all?
Hola DEMS!
This is good to know!
BREAKING: GOP's CA Electoral College Initiative/Scam Dead, Says LA Times
LA Times is reporting tonight that the good guys may have won one for a change..
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This is creepy!
6 die from brain-eating amoeba in lakes
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This is funny? (not so)
Europeans angry after Bush climate speech 'charade'
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Ok I think I'm caught up. CYN yes I knew the rest of that story. I looked it up at the time but still it's something I've never heard before. I still think he's ............no I won't diss him this morning. Besides it's just my opinion.
Hey I took Bob's test too. For someone that never took a credit passed Social Studies 101 (I was more interested in Science back then, still am actually)
Anyway, I did pretty good. 21 out of 25 correct. I'll take that! ;-)
I'm sure all you veteran political junkies did great. BTW, I'm a nerd BOB. Nothing wrong with nerds or geeks.
Dallas man sentenced to four years in dog's death
GOOD!
Inside the Hispanic vote: Growing in numbers, growing in diversity
By Percy H Florez - Sep 29th, 2007 at 10:36 am EDT
Also listed in: 154 groups
updated 1:35 p.m. EDT, Fri September 28, 2007
By Manav Tanneeru
CNN
Inside the Hispanic vote: Growing in numbers, growing in diversity
(CNN) -- As Democratic and Republican presidential candidates scour the country for votes during the 2008 campaign, they'll inevitably court the Hispanic community, a voting group growing rapidly in number and diversity.
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Before the midterm elections in 2006, the Pew Hispanic Center, a Washington-based think-tank, estimated more than 17 million Hispanics would be eligible to vote in that election. The number represented a 7 percent increase from 2004.
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The Hispanic vote has historically been aligned with the Democratic Party, an allegiance established during the administrations of Presidents Franklin Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy, said Harry Pachon of the Tomas Rivera Policy Institute.
Read this Link
Percy H Florez
Here's a POLL 2 vote for VP (not mine)
if you've not taken it yet please do!
so far
75 percent of the vote is for CLARK
15 percent is for Richardson
the other 3 they list are in single digits
.....LOL...While you HEBETUDINOUS repuKKKans play around with a { will this make the economy better or will this make america safer - non issue AD } Hillary and the Democratic agenda move forward in popularity with the intelectual and patriotic parts of America while you GOP slugs play catch up. So by all means, keep beating and playing and playing and beating this betrayus AD which 70% of Americans think was a "cooked" testimony by Petraeus for this EMPIRE. The other 30% of Americans who follow lock step behind this empire BOVINE SCATOLOGY are the same zombies who listen to rush LIMPbaugh, bill ORANGUTAN reilly, sean FLUFFannity and the foxk news channel. P.S. check out the latest polls and you will see this non issue didn't put a halt to Hillary's lead against the repuKKKans. .......continue to LOL
There's no business like show busines....
Are Mega-Preachers Scandal-Prone?
By DAVID VAN BIEMA Sat Sep 29
...Some suggest that the risk of high-profile meltdowns may be in the very nature of Pentecostal leadership roles. "There's a lot of soul searching in our movement right now," says J. Lee Grady, editor of Charisma magazine, because of the spectacle of highly successful preachers losing their way. "There's a saying, 'Your anointing can take you to a place where your character cannot sustain you.' I'm hearing that a lot more often these days."
"Anointing" refers to the Pentecostal belief not only in the conversion experience, but in a "second anointing in the Holy Spirit" that bestows such gifts such as speaking in tongues, healing and prophesying. From its emergence in Los Angeles exactly a century ago, it has tended to be exuberant, physical and generally more theologically adventurous than its evangelical cousins. And despite thousands of pastors and churches that pursue their joyous vision without taint, scandal has dogged some of its most prominent figures. Among the best-known were the late 1980s downfalls of televangelists Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart: Bakker, who was undone by charges of fraud, and Swaggart who was caught with a prostitute, had preached a "theology of prosperity" suggesting that there would be divine rewards in this world for those who donated to the ministry.
Some critics, such as Albert Mohler, President of the Southern Baptist Convention's Southern Theological Seminary, see the movement as hardwired for scandal. "The Charismatic movement is so driven by emotion and by passion that it sometimes lacks both theological and moral accountability," he says. Others, such as Tim Morgan, an editor at Christianity Today, see it as a more organizational problem - the absence of the kind of internal oversight common in mainline Protestantism and more recently in non-Pentecostal Evangelicalism. "Quite a few of these independent churches feel they are beholden to God alone," says Morgan...
news.yahoo.com/s/time/20070929/us_time/aremegapreachersscandalprone
(bold mine)
And just who should they be beholden to? The Southern Baptist Convention?
I think it's refreshing that some in the evangelical movement have gotten past the hypocricy.
Posted by NkneeDemDawn on September 29, 2007 at 10:33 AM
What test?
Posted by SL600AMG on September 29, 2007 at 11:16 AM
can I hear an AMEN! lol
(back from Atreyu's walkabout)
Sandy, the link was posted yesterday somewhere, here let me go back and get it........here it is Sandy, good luck I'm sure you'll max it. I am horrible with dates, time, things like that. Which is why I never like History class. I do like it now that I've grown up and established some HISTORY of my own, ya know? LOL
Howdy, Sandy. She's talking about the sample Citizenship test that Bob posted on the PB Open Thread:
Posted by BobVADemHawk-Biden-Obama2008 on September 29, 2007 at 09:41 AM
I got a 25.
Posted by DPD on September 29, 2007 at 11:56 AM
show off! LOL :-P~
kiddin {{dpd}} I expected no less from you!
Bill Nelson and Alcee Hastings plan to file lawsuit next week against the DNC. Also a Tampa activiist is suing both state and national parties. Also a state senate leader is going to sue IA,NH, NV, and SC on the grounds they are "terrorist rogue states".
Also a very hilarious cartoon from the Miami Herald.
Every Democrat in Florida is suing someone
So embarrassing. Senator Geller said people would think Florida Democrats were the "gang who can't shoot straught." You think, Senator??
Posted by sunny on September 29, 2007 at 12:06 PM
it was a hot summer! too many are suffering heat stroke! lol
Looks like Obama is finally playing a little Hard Ball.
Obama seeks support quoting Bill Clinton
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CONCORD, N.H. - Democratic presidential hopeful Barrack Obama said Saturday his public service experience trumps that of rival Hillary Rodham Clinton's, and he tried to use her husband's words to make his point.
Obama, a first-term senator from Illinois, said his background as a community organizer, lawyer, professor and state senator is more valuable than Hillary Clinton's experience "working the system" as first lady and in other roles.
oh jez I think I've caught my daughters Tonsillitis
wonderful
This is part of an email I received from The PEN.
It was mui long. But I wanted to share some of it.
WE THE PEOPLE CUT THE HEART OUT OF THE LIEBERMAN-KYL AMENDMENT
It has taken a couple days for the actual disposition of the Lieberman-Kyl amendment to leak out, but in FACT, the two most offensive paragraphs (3 and 4), which we were objecting to so strenuously as amounting to a declaration of war on Iran, were REMOVED IN THEIR ENTIRELY prior to the vote. Which means we WON.
Yes, you did it, with your TENS of thousands of emails and phone calls to Congress this last Monday and Tuesday. We are so proud of our participants on this one. Claim your win.
What was left was not great, but ultimately it means nothing with the actual teeth of the amendment extracted, not that that's any excuse for those who voted yes (or did not vote at all). So the Senate called some people a terrorist organization. Big deal, it's not binding anyway, no more than their groundless and hypocritical condemnation of MoveOn a week ago. And for those who may say this gives Cheney and Bush an excuse to do anything, this White House doesn't think it needs an excuse to do anything, that's the whole POINT of impeachment.
Once again this PROVES that activism works. We beat them back this time in a major way, folks, and why? Because we actually spoke out, that's why! We dismissed the voices of defeatism and took action. Fancy that, participatory democracy works. Are the evil ones going to give up? Of course not, and that's why we're not going to give up either. Let's say it together, we're going to keep ON speaking out in even greater numbers.
There are many dirty secrets in Washington, but the biggest one of all they are trying to keep may be that when you write and call in mass numbers, members of Congress tremble, shaking in their socks, especially in the House where they have to get reelected every two years. Oh, sure, sometimes they send us their form letter responses trying to sluff us off, trying to con us into thinking we are not having an impact. But we know the truth, which is that they work for us, and we do have the POWER with our personal messages to enforce that.
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From Paul's site. (IAVA) watch the ad! (and please help if you can)
This Monday, October 1st, the budget for the VA is due in Congress. Amazingly, it looks like it's not going to be approved on time. That means the VA will have to stretch this year's budget as new veterans enter the system each day.
morning all,
Campaign breakfast meeting bright and early, then stopped at Old cider mill for apples, fritters, cider, Corn husks, pumpkins, etc. Gorgeous day here in the NOrtheast.
Dawnie, I threw a few more bucks to IVAW for their ad. I feel bad that they don't understand that this Military and this idiot in chief only cares about them when they are fighting the Republican's lies of invasions. Once they are hurt and of no more use, the government tosses them aside. Such a hypocriscy of Bush and Republicans support the troops!
Also a state senate leader is going to sue IA,NH, NV, and SC on the grounds they are "terrorist rogue states".
speaking of terrorist rogues, the leader of the American Terrorist organization from Tuscon appears to be out and around today, and WHY the German Nazi troll thinks he has ANY right to discuss American politics now that he gave up his citizenship and is a German Terrorist, I do not know! These guys condone torture, killing innocents, invading countries without one single terrorist in it, pushing for bombing Iran and other countries, and are the same as the people we fight, so they are nothing more than Terrorists harbored here in the states. Let's make sure we drive them out in the Democratic War on Terrorists !
Dawn,
What was left was not great, but ultimately it means nothing with the actual teeth of the amendment extracted, not that that's any excuse for those who voted yes (or did not vote at all). So the Senate called some people a terrorist organization. Big deal,
That's the point.
It would mean nothing if the Senate had not already given Bush the authority to go after any terrorist organization with the Iraqi authorization.
Those that voted for this thing were fooled again. I don't want them leading my party. It is a big deal. If you can't learn from past mistakes, you are going to keep on making them.
The activism worked in that it exposed our weak spots and some of them are running for president.
wish I could hang around, but have to get busy .
You Dems have a great day and maybe bbl.
http://www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?id=4181
Just further proof that it's not just the goverment that's corrupt.
Posted by CactusDan on September 29, 2007 at 12:54 PM
I bet you wish Columbia had invited Spunky to speak there, too.
I'm out for the day. I'll check back tomorrow.
Enjoy the good weather and fellowship, everyone.
Sandy,
I agree with you (mostly) but don't see AL GORE entering the race or Bill Richardson's numbers going up significantly. The top tier are the same to me. If I have to pick it will be Hillary more than likely as I suspect she will pick either Clark or Biden as her VP.
Unless the 2nd tier grow some legs, and they could, before next year.
{{PAMMY}} thank you kindly! You are the BEST! If the troops coming home are still reading here they know who's ON THEIR SIDE and which heinous party is NOT!!!
Fox News' attack on the honor and integrity of our war generals
I'm sorry I think I should have made that a BIGGER HEADLINE FOR ALL THOSE WHO SCAN!
FOX NEWS' ATTACK ON THE HONOR AND INTEGRITY OF OUR WAR GENERALS!!!
REPUBLICANS ARE IN BED WITH FOX NEWS
DICK CHENEY WON'T WATCH ANY OTHER CHANNEL BUT FOX NEWS!
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT MY FINE VETERANS???
SHAMEFUL, DISGRACEFUL, DISGUSTING?
D - ALL OF THE ABOVE
fyi for any Panthers or Buccaneers fans
TOMORROW at 4pmEST they play EACH OTHER!!
I'm not sure which hat to wear but can't wait!
Oh, how we support Freedom like in Myanmar but just speaking out to say it would be nice to have it there, but in the end we will have another Tienanmen Square Lady Liberty run over by brutal suppression. It would be nice to have Lady Liberty parades around America with people here marching for Myanmar Freedom there and also American Freedom here, while the people there cannot march, for they are being shot at. Yet, Bush will just say it was a nice try but the Myanmar government chose to suppress Freedom and Democracy. And just like in America, there leaders choose to take away the right to march in opposition to governmental policies.
Those that oppose Cheney and Bush autocratic power of Freedom and Democracy will suffer the same fate as Myanmar by living in a redefined Democratic nation under Executive Privilege that bans civil liberties. You see Bush wants to give everyone his special form of Patriot Act Freedom and Democracy.
Hey Fat Dan, American Terrorist ! Shut the F*** up!
The Nazi movement is alive and well. Watch Bush administration for one day and compare to Hitler's Germany ! You sick old porker, didn't you see your rights getting picked off one after the other? The muzzle put on the media? You are too stupid to realize what is going on. and YOU, poor and living off Social Security, NEED Democrats more than ever! don't cry to us when your SS gets taken away.
Now go spend some quality time with your prize swine of a wife, and get a freaken life, will ya? Your attempts at trying to be a Troll wannabee like the old man in MN fail miserably! You come off looking senile and childish !
Go away ! Terrorize someone else. Maybe go onto the blog of the Vets who are now turning against Bush and insult them instead ! You unpatriotic white trash, .
Posted by CactusDan on September 29, 2007 at 12:54 P
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The only winner was Free Speech, the same one that allows you to post here because frankly you are a tyrant here and you words mirror him in antagonizing others.
HAHAHAHAHA, Now his withdrawal of his bid for President had Nothing to do with people laughing their ass off at his request for $30 million dollars !!!! He couldn't get elected dog catcher the old idiot.
WASHINGTON - Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich will not run for president in 2008 after determining he could not legally explore a bid and remain as head of his tax-exempt political organization, a spokesman said Saturday.
"Newt is not running," spokesman Rick Tyler said. "It is legally impermissible for him to continue on as chairman of American Solutions (for Winning the Future) and to explore a campaign for president."
Gingrich decided "to continue on raising the challenges America faces and finding solutions to those challenges" as the group's chairman, Tyler said, "rather than pursuing the presidency
The weekly (part of it) update from Media Matters for America
You've heard of Norman Hsu -- why not Robert Lichfield?
As of 11 a.m. today, a Nexis search for "Norman Hsu AND Clinton" returns 1,252 hits. The nation's leading news organizations provide a substantial portion of those results:
The New York Times: 26
Los Angeles Times: 20
The Washington Post: 16
USA Today: 2
Chicago Tribune: 9
The Boston Globe: 8
Associated Press: 47
Newsweek: 2
Time: 1
U.S. News & World Report: 2
CNN: 45
Fox News: 29
NBC News: 14
NPR: 14
ABC News: 6
CBS News: 5
MSNBC: 6
(The actual number of news reports by those rganizations, particularly the television outlets, is certainly higher than the Nexis results indicate.)
To date, 137 different newspapers have written about Hsu and Clinton in a total of 591 articles, according to Nexis, and 132 broadcast and cable news transcripts mention Hsu and Clinton.
By contrast, a Nexis search for "Alan Fabian AND Romney" yields a total of only 21 hits. Here's how they break down for the news organizations listed above:
The New York Times: 0
Los Angeles Times: 0
The Washington Post: 1
USA Today: 1
Chicago Tribune: 0
The Boston Globe: 0
Associated Press: 0
Newsweek: 0
Time: 0
U.S. News & World Report: 0
CNN: 0
Fox News: 0
NBC News: 0
NPR: 0
ABC News: 0
CBS News: 0
MSNBC: 0
That's a whole lot of zeros. Of those 21 results, seven are reports that also mention Hsu. The Washington Post report, for example, contained 97 words about Romney and Fabian in the midst of a 1,457 word front-page article about controversial donors to presidential campaigns. Those 1,457 words included the grand total of 137 about Romney donors. No other Republican candidate was mentioned. The vast majority of the article focused on Hillary Clinton and John Edwards. So, even when Fabian has been mentioned, it has often been only in passing, as part of a report about controversial donors to Democratic campaigns.
Given the disparate media coverage of Norman Hsu and Alan Fabian, you probably know who Hsu is. But by now, you're probably wondering who Alan Fabian is. Alan Fabian was a Romney bundler until his recent indictment on 23 counts of fraud, money laundering, perjury, and obstruction of justice. At his arraignment today, Fabian pleaded not guilty to all the charges against him.
The indictment of a top Romney bundler has resulted in essentially no coverage from the same news organizations that have obsessed over the controversy surrounding a Clinton bundler. And remember, when the media first began focusing on Hsu, it was not yet known that he had any legal woes, so they don't explain the media's interest in Hsu and disinterest in Fabian.
But maybe Hsu and Fabian aren't perfectly comparable. Sure, Fabian has been indicted on 23 counts of fraud, money laundering, perjury, and obstruction of justice, while Hsu wasn't known to have been charged with a crime when the media frenzy about him began. But Hsu, for reasons that may relate to his name (The American Spectator's R. Emmett Tyrrell charmingly referred to "The Clintons' Chop Suey Connection"), was immediately seen as a sexy story. Mail fraud is just so very dull, particularly in comparison to a donor with a Chinese surname.
But there's nothing dull about allegations against Robert Lichfield, who until recently was Romney's Utah finance co-chairman and helped organize a February event that raised $300,000 for the campaign.
Pam quit talking to it. It lies pathologically and has zero attributions to anything. It's more like a fungus amongus! lmao! And it has an eerie attachment to you.
get out the lysol woman
Feds Bust Marijuana-Laced Snack Factory
Friday, September 28, 2007
Sept. 26: Samples of marijuana-laced candy are seen after a raid on Tainted Inc. in Oakland, Calif.
SAN FRANCISCO — Federal agents said Thursday that they shut down a factory that made marijuana-laced barbecue sauce, chocolate-covered pretzels and other "enhanced" snacks intended for medical users of the drug.
The Drug Enforcement Agency said it arrested three people Wednesday and is looking for a fourth who operated Oakland-based Tainted Inc.
Agents also seized 460 marijuana plants and other laced products including candy bars, cookies, marshmallow pies, ice cream, peanut butter, jelly, energy drinks and "Rice Krispy treats."
Tainted Inc. was launched by Michael Martin, 33, of El Sobrante as a small operation that made laced chocolate truffles. When it was raided Wednesday, the company was shipping products to medical marijuana dispensaries throughout California and in Seattle; Vancouver, British Columbia; and Amsterdam.
Authorities said the operation also had ties to Los Angeles pot clubs and believe it has ordered four tons of chocolate over the past two years to make marijuana-laced candy.
Those arrested were Jessica Sanders, Michael Anderson and Diallo McLinn. Martin is a fugitive, authorities said.
The raids of the factory and four Bay Area houses came after a two-year investigation and growing police concern that the legalization of medicinal marijuana in several states has caused a proliferation of large-scale marijuana-lacing operations.
Laced snacks are often more potent and longer lasting than smoked marijuana. Federal authorities contend that marijuana is an illegal drug, no matter how it used or who uses it, and they don't honor the state laws.
"This appears to be represent, once again, the federal government taking umbrage with the fact that California has legalized medical marijuana for medical patients," Sanders' attorney, Randolph Daar, told the San Francisco Chronicle. Lawyers for McLinn and Anderson had no comment.
A call to the company Friday was not returned.
Several people who ran a marijuana-lacing operation called Beyond Bomb that produced such products as Stoney Rancher, Rasta Reese's and Keef Kat pleaded guilty this year in Oakland federal court to marijuana charges. Beyond Bomb's founder Kenneth Affolter was sentenced to nearly six years in prison.
"These items could have harmful effects on a user, especially the unsuspecting ones," DEA agent Javier Pena said. "We will continue to shut down these production lines, one marijuana-candy factory at a time."
thanks for that media matters article, Dawnie.
I just send a message to all those outlets who are ignorning it !!!
heading out again,
Posted by gro4me on September 29, 2007 at 02:17 PM
hey I have an article for you that I stumbled across today! WE have our own guru of all things hemp at 880's REVOLUTION here in Asheville. His name is Virato and I listened to him a little while this morning.
I thought about you immediately! :-]
Hey everyone...I might be a bit late with this one (I haven't had a chance to read up yet)
Leading indicators for 2008 political fortunes point downward for GOP
WASHINGTON — It is gallows humor time for Republicans in Congress, where one lawmaker jokes that "there's talk about us going the way of the Whigs," the 19th century political party long extinct.
"That's not going to happen," Rep. Tom Davis, R-Va., hastens to add, although a little more than a year before the 2008 election, the major leading political indicators still point downward for a party abruptly turned out of power in 2006.
Fundraising for Republican campaign organizations lags. That is strikingly so in the House, where the party committee spent more than it raised in each of the past two months, reported only $1.6 million in the bank at the end of August and a debt of nearly $4 million.
Democrats reported $22.1 million in the bank and a debt of slightly more than $3 million.
Candidate recruitment has been uneven, particularly in the Senate, where Republicans must defend 22 of the 34 seats on the ballot next year. Democrats boast top-tier challengers for GOP-held seats in Colorado, Virginia, New Hampshire, Maine, Minnesota and Oregon.
Republicans have yet to put forward a prominent challenger for any Democratic-held seat, although an announcement is expected soon in Louisiana.
Wounded Vets Also Suffer Financial Woes
~snip~
Few anticipated the high price of caring for Gamal and other veterans with deep, slow-healing wounds.
Afghanistan seemed quiet and Saddam Hussein still ruled Iraq one year after the Sept. 11 attacks. That's when the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs guaranteed two years of free care to returning combat veterans for virtually any medical condition with a possible service link.
Later, few predicted such a protracted war in Iraq. "A lot of people based their planning on low numbers of casualties in a very short war," says Paul Rieckhoff, an Army combat veteran who founded Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America.
Today, GAMAL can't keep a job, pay his bills, or chase thoughts of suicide from his tortured brain. In a few weeks, he may lose his house, too.
this is just awful!!!
Hi Kristen, Bye Kristen!
I'm heading out to try to eat something.
bbl
Peace
It seems that with the Craig problem that now the Congressional bathroom stalls have skirts.
Well kiddos, just stopped in after ripping out the Summer plants and putting in the Fall ones. Heading out to the art fair in a local burb soon. Has anyone seen the Dem response to the Chimp's Saturday morning lie fest? It's supposed to be done by a 14 year old kid who has cancer taking the Chimp to task about S-CHIP. Graeme Frost is his name. I can't find it any where.
Chimpy couldn't out speak this High Schooler, just like Flash Gasbag wimped out on debating that HS debate team from Evanston after he called them stupid. They challenged him, and he cut and ran.
Typical Pugs, ALL BLOW (hehe) and no show. I'm not holding my breath for Flush to have John Stoltz on his show any time soon.
But as we all know, ALL Pugs are just Disgusting.
Afternoon all good Dems,
Posted by NkneeDemDawn on September 29, 2007 at 02:46 PM
I am utterly disgusted with the SOB president and vice president. These poor veterans are left out in the cold while cheney and his pet corporations are raking in Billions. It is beyond disgusting. It is criminal.
I feel that bush and cheney's actions fall into the category of crimes against humanity. They are also guilty of the next worst crime, profiting from someone's death. I feel these crimes are worse than Hitler's actions against the Jews.
IMPEACH THE MF'S NOW!
Posted by Toss_Bush_on_His_Ass on September 29, 2007 at 03:11 PM
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Bayh is a Progressive Conservative who would not restore civil Liberties. We need someone that will work for the people, and the American streets of needs.
We actually need real change from Royal Washington, a new breed of patriotic leader who walk among the population.
Obama keep kicking to get away from Hillary's heels. Edwards keep talking issues because Hillary will not talk with "We the people" just like George, they segregate the issues they want to talk about, instead of doing their homework with the audience answering THEIR questions.
Oh, and by the way, a DOUBLE FU to the unwelcome resident asshole, bush ass-kissing trolls.
Sen. Craig's fall may benefit salmon
Posted by Kristen on September 29, 2007 at 02:56 PM
cheney has also been very active blocking these issues in the northwest. We should hang his ass too.
written by one of those Phoney soldiers Limbaugh blasted ! See the pictures he includes of others like himself! Soldiers who now understand that this was all a lie and a scam and want OUT !
Blue Girl directed me to a very interesting story about Rush Limbaugh, who called veterans opposed to the war phony soldiers. Of course, this is the same Rush Limbaugh who threw a fit about the Moveon.org Petraeus ad, calling it "contemptible" and "indecent." Apparently anyone in the military is above criticism as long as they agree with Rush's brave belief that we should be in Iraq "as long as it takes." And I use the term 'we' loosely, as I believe the closest Rush has ever gotten to combat was watching We Were Soldiers with surround sound.
Bomb rips through Afghan bus carrying troops
A bomb exploded on a bus crowded with troops in Afghanistan's capital Saturday, killing as many as 27 people, officials have told the Associated Press. Full Story:
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/09/29/afghan-bus-bomb.html
Mike Gravel for President 2008 - Official Web Site
The Iraq War
Senator Gravel advocates an immediate and orderly withdrawal of all U.S. troops. His current plan, if enacted, would have all U.S. soldiers home by Christmas 2007. Read more:
Another powerful ad from Vote Vets, and they really let Limbaugh have it. Rush can’t help himself as he continues his attacks on our troops and veterans, accusing Ohio Democrat and Iraq veteran Paul Hackett of joining the military to pad his resume. Think Progress has more on a letter that’s circulating around Capitol Hill urging members to condemn Rush and have also issued a challenge to lawmakers to give him the same treatment they did Move On.
Al-Qaeda figure' killed in Iraq
geee, didn't the last few time they touted this b-s, it turned out not to be true??? Who on earth would be foolish enough to fall for this again? (oooops, I see it is the simpleton !)
You call our troops rapist and murderers and cuss this country everyday. You say how wonderful our enemies are and you call me unpatriotic
Danny boy, you old little macho cowboy you, you must be talking about somebody else! Or else you can't quite follow the point of the stories. That's probably it! Too much pork between your ears ! I Cuss this GOvernment everyday, the one who has destroyed my country! I do not believe that men in other countries are evil just because Bush says they are, so he has a reason to go and invade them! You see, I am open minded and intelligent, unlike you and your sisters who come in here. Terrorists just misplaced here in the USA.
You'll like this one ! :)
Democrats the Party of 'Normal Americans'
DAVENPORT, Iowa -- One of Newt Gingrich's favorite verbal firebombs was calling Democrats "the enemies of normal Americans." We will ignore the nasty code contained in the former GOP House speaker's remark. But suffice it to say, Democrats used to spend much time catering to narrow interest groups at the expense of the middle-class masses.
That was then, and then is clearly not now.
Democrats have emerged as champions of horse sense and competent governance. And they're on the offensive, accusing Republicans of downright weirdness in their fiscal recklessness and seeming obsession with the interests of the richest few.
Iowa Democrats are echoing this righteous anger over what they see as the Bush con job. "All my life, I've heard of tax-and-spend Democrats, tax-and-spend Democrats," Mike Liebbe, a party activist, told me. "Why don't I hear that now?"
While Bush was the target, he made his own contribution to the discussion from Washington. After nearly seven years of spending like there's no tomorrow, he finally decided to draw the line: He vowed to veto the expansion of government health coverage for children of the working poor.
Well, like the French Revolution before it, Gingrich's so-called conservative revolution was eventually taken over by bizarre ideology. That leaves Democrats fired up and unapologetic. And they are happily selling themselves as the best friends normal Americans ever had.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/09/democrats_the_party_of_normal.html
Welcome to the wide-open 2008 campaign, the first in more than half a century without a sitting president or vice president in the running. This distinction is more than a mere historic anomaly. It is a fundamental fact that is already shaping the races for the Democratic and Republican nominations in significant ways -- and one that may determine the election's very outcome.
"The implications of this are that we have a very energized electorate," said Costas Panagopoulos, director of Fordham University's elections and campaign management program. "It's quite unusual -- you have to go back to 1952 [to find a White House campaign in which neither the president nor vice president was a serious contender] -- and already we are seeing unprecedented levels of interest, enthusiasm, and contributing behavior."
Other unusual things are going on in this cycle, as well. In companion articles, National Journal explores a number of ways that the 2008 presidential election is different: the gap between the end of the nominations fights and the national conventions is likely to be the longest in history; the electoral map is turning bluer, and the Democrats could put at least three more states -- Arizona, Colorado, and Virginia -- in play; the early success of the first female front-runner is pushing voters to examine their attitudes about gender and politics (in a Q&A, first lady Laura Bush chimes in with her observations); and, finally, the next president will be the first since Richard Nixon to inherit an unpopular war.
http://nationaljournal.com/about/njweekly/stories/2007/0928nj1.htm
no Wonder Tuscon Terrorist has a burr in his thongs these days ! Arizona going even BLUER than it is ! hahahahahaha. I have to make sure I send a donation or two to candidates there ! And of course, Al Franken campaign called me today for end of quarter donation, I was just too happy to give to. Seeeee, this is how we laugh last at the trolls !
Will immigration sink Republicans?
By Linda Chavez
September 29, 2007
Republicans need all the votes they can get next November if they are to have any hope of retaining the White House and winning back control of Congress. But one group of voters – among whom the GOP has gained considerable ground over the last few elections – now seems about to slip away, perhaps permanently.
Hispanic voters are poised to turn several red states blue come 2008, virtually guaranteeing a Democratic presidential victory and a pickup in congressional seats as well, according to a new analysis of Hispanic voting behavior. “Border Wars: The Impact of Immigration on the Latino Vote,” released by the conservative group Americas Majority Foundation, demonstrates that congressional Republicans' ham-handed approach to immigration will cost them dearly at the polls
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070929/news_lz1e29chavez.html
let's see. They have lost blacks. They have lost Women. they have lost the Evangelical right. Now Hispanics. who is left except the 28% easily swayed, gullible, naive un-informed?
Bill, honey, I know it's confusing sometimes. But your *wife* is running for president. Not you. Not you, baby. And I know she learned a lot, from being your wife, but she wasn't a governor, and she wasn't president. And now it looks like she only ran for the Senate because of how the "experience" of being in the Senate would *look* -- not because she actually wanted to do anything worthwhile in the Senate. So Bill, sweetie, ya gotta knock it off with this "Obama's got less experience than me," thing. Because you were a pretty good president (besides the depleted uranium weapons used in Serbo-Croatia, and following Jimmy Carter's lead on trading with China, I mean. Oh, and the BJ which might've lost Gore the election.) You weren't bad. But you are not going to be president again. Doesn't mean we don't love ya. It's just the way it is.
Bill Clinton slams Obama's lack of experience.
Posted by PamB on September 29, 2007 at 05:15 PM
...[The GOP] have lost blacks. They have lost Women. they have lost the Evangelical right. Now Hispanics. [W]ho is left except the 28% easily swayed, gullible, naive un-informed?
They think there is still enough angry white guys to go around for them. There aren't but, we ain't telling them that.
The following article explains chimps sudden interest in Myanmar. cheney is after their oil.
Despite economic sanctions against Myanmar by the United States and the European Union, Total continues to operate the Yadana gas field, and Chevron Corp. has a 28 percent stake through its takeover of Unocal. Existing investments were exempt from the investment ban.
More of the story:
Firms Seek Access to Myanmar Oil Fields
bush is calling the kettle black again. The record for the biggest tax increase in US history still goes to ray-gun. bush is an f'ing liar.
WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush on Saturday signed a bill to prevent a government shutdown, but not without complaint. Bush lambasted the Democrats who control Congress for sending him the stopgap measure while they continue to work on more than a dozen spending bills funding the day-to-day operations of 15 Cabinet departments.
"Congress failed in its most basic responsibility," the president said in his weekly radio address.
The bills are tied up because Democrats want to add $23 billion for domestic programs to Bush's $933 billion request for the approximately one-third of the federal budget funded by the yearly spending bills. Bush has threatened vetoes on most of the bills, eager to re-establish his party's reputation as the place to go for fiscal discipline.
The president said Democrats are planning the "biggest tax increase in American history" to pay for the new spending.
"Earlier this year congressional leaders promised to show that they could be responsible with the people's money," he said. "Unfortunately they seem to have chosen the path of higher spending."
Bush Signs Spending Bill, Jabs at Dems
Oh holy crap U SEE what this DUMBchit did????
Iran MPs brand U.S. army, CIA "terrorists"
GOD how I hate BULLIES!!! They should FIND the gene that turns someone into a BULLY and eradicate it (or the bully) which ever. I'm sick of them ALLLLLLLLL.
FU oatmeal for brains.
Quit spewing rash lobotomy talking points. They are all obvious lies.
There are five distinct types of Republicans. While it is possible that certain individuals fall into two or more catgories, by and large, there are five basic types.
1. Money Worshippers - These are the ones who favor tax cuts for the rich while the nation's debt soars and our infrastructure crumbles.
2. Bigots - Do I really need to go farther than the debate at Morgan State?
3. Bible Thumpers - A.K.A. The Fundies, A.K.A. The X-tians.
4. War Mongerers - Diplomacy by the barrel of a gun, A.K.A. the NeoCons headed by VP Cheney.
5. "Sheeple" - Poor, dumb, white trash deluded into voting Republican because they stand for "Family Values". Of course, the version of GOP family values can best be seen in the examples of Sen. Craig (R-ID), Sen. Vitter (R-LA), former Rep. Ney (R-OH), former Rep. Cunningham (R-CA), and the list goes on and on and on and on and on...
Now, how can we use that to our advantage. We will not get any of the money worshipping votes because we advocate the repeal of the Bush tax cuts for the top 2%.
We chased the bigots out of the party with the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and 1965. President Johnson was overheard saying something to the effect of, "No Democrat will win a southern state for fifty years because of this". Unfortunately, he was right however, we do not want bigots of any stripe in our party. The GOP are welcome to them.
The Bible Thumpers are starting to appreciate our positions on global warming and helping the poor. Splinter the Evangelical vote and the Republicans will be lucky to maintain 150 seats in the House.
We could steal a few war mongering votes with a military officer at the VP nominee and a tough stance against Iran, the next threat.
The Sheeple are the easiest to pick off and the most difficult to communicate with. They are the ones who respond to the ten-second sound bite and are obsessed with people like Paris Hilton or Lindsay Lohan as opposed to their elected representatives. It'll take a ommunications genius to get through here however, the payoff potential is enormous.
Whoever wrote that article on the spending bill is also full of shit. ray-gun did this every damn year. Every October first, during his entire term in office, he threatened to shut down the government if he didn't get his way. He was the biggest whiner of all time.
Boy, Cactus dan is SO uninformed...
How uninformed is he, Gene?
He's SO uninformed that he doesn't realize that the guy was KILLED LAST YEAR.
Wounded vets also suffer financial woes
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070929/ap_on_he_me/coming_home_wounded_the_price;_ylt=AmKCU4ZUQ8NaxfJoSrKLrEis0NUE
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It seems Bush wants to use the military on rotating reserve drafts until they get injured and try to survive as starving need civilians. It seems Bush's Corporations and Administration then terminates them like Katrina victims. Bush's compassion of promising our troops and our people that he will take of things and leaving them to contemplate suicide because the VA has outsourced them into a third world citizen status. How can one person Betray US so much!
DPD,
I don't believe anything this administration says. They have been lying so long they have painted themselves into a corner and can't get out.
The Sheeple are the easiest to pick off and the most difficult to communicate with.
Bob u got that right! lol
rest easy Bob, we're NOT going to need that 28 percent that's against SANITY!
And even IF they got half as angry as the 40 plus percent of Democrats that have said they ARE VERY ANGRY...... we still almost double their numbers!
And besides, if the GOP try to steal another election I think DEMS and the REST of the PLANET will work together to get RID of these criminals once and for ALL! YEA by way of the Whigs! byebye!
Polling Data
Poll Date Sample Coleman (R) Franken (D) Und Spread
Rasmussen 09/06 - 09/06 500 LV 46 41 13 Coleman +5.0
Mason-Dixon 05/07 - 05/09 625 RV 54 32 14 Coleman +22.0
Rasmussen 03/07 - 03/07 500 LV 46 36 8 Coleman +10.0
SurveyUSA 02/12 - 02/13 632 RV 57 35 8 Coleman +22.0
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/senate/mn/minnesota_senate_race-257.html
I believe someone mentioned that Al Franken didn't have a chance against Sen. Coleman (R-MN)? I don't know about y'all, but I think I see a trend developing in this polling data. You tell me.
If the White House vetoes the Child Insurance Act then Congress must use its pen like a line item veto to get rid of the ear marks going to Halliburton, Blackwater, and the corrupt contractors. The White House needs to show its secret army and programs that are funded by diverted money. Find out how they are being funded and cut the umbilical cord of corruption.
I wish we could get rid of the Democrat Republicans, and get rid of the Bush Republicans. Bush has bankrupt the core of America.
This is the scary thing.
Bush, by now, must understand how much he is disliked, even hated by most of the WORLD.
If he's too dumb to figure it out? Well, all the better cuz if he now realizes it.......... I think anything goes for him. He's that anal, vindictive and spiteful! I think he would burn every bridge (example being the VETO pen to all those kids) on his way out the door.
Kinda like how crazy hussein's people set the oil wells on fire
nothing of goodness left in that glass and it's MORE than half empty!
St. Elmo's fire
Posted by DPD on September 29, 2007 at 06:01 PM
hey I saw Chicago was voted top sports city in the U.S. by someone? LOL
anyway, congrats! ;-) I wonder does Chi town get a prize?
Y'all have a good weekend. Keep the Faith and keep the faith. The liberal revolution is now.
damn newt ain't runnin!!
let's hope sally can talk delay into manning up for the home team...that delay/foley ticket would be a sure thing!
i see the troll is spending it's weekend with us again. i guess it is of the "enemies for friends are better than no friends at all" school of socialization.
I wish disabled troops were treated like disabled or disgraced politicians that are treated as patriots, instead they are terminated by Corporations, lose everything and even contemplate suicide because the neglect of the Bush Administration to offer them help.
Democrats Still AWOL
The people took to the streets of Washington again today to protest the occupation. Again we went alone.
We were there for you in November. Where have you gone? Too tired after a week of funding Bush's war?
little harpie the war hero is here! hey harpie have you climbed up on sally's leg again? down bad harpie, down...if you are good tonight mr. weatherbee with give you and the other a.v. squad douche bags new pocket protectors and a full can of carbona for your mom's huffing party....
i hope harpie and sally will disprove evolution again tonight...they are such bright ninth graders and creationists to boot!
hey whats up? did the douche bag brigade go to bed already? usually sally lets harpie stay up till ten or eleven if he keeps riding his scabrous leg in the cute sailor's suit...
hey pUSs your mom is riding that goat right now...or is it riding her? oh never mind...
Illegal citizens need to get special International Driver's Licenses not one's for U.S. Citizens. So that in places like motels rooms and airport airplane flights, they have to provide a passport to stay in the room or take a flight.
Americans need passports to travel to Canada and elsewhere, so why do not illegal aliens need passports to take any flight within the U.S. borders for security reasons. That for any kind of benefits they need passports to receive support.
Because with states driver's license they might be able to vote illegally and receive benefits afforded legal citizens. The other thing is that they can fly without special checks.
Do people from Mexico, Canada all have to have passports flying in and out of the U.S. like all Americans?
At airports how can they take driver license as prove of U.S. citizenship in order to fly. Terrorists had U.S. license and that was enough to board a flight. Any illegal must be flagged for special security inspection.
no pushing involved, your moms came over to visit as a group and once they saw the goat it was love at first sight....let's see sally's mom is trying to get the beast to share her huffing bag while pUSs's seems to have more carnal interests....what was it like growing up under the tutelage of these ladies??
Yes Lester, everyone needs a passport to enter a foreign country now. You need to read the newspaper more often.
Posted by Harpo_Thinks_you_are_asshats on September 29, 2007 at 07:48 PM
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Actually you are technically wrong again, military personnel do not need passports and those the White House excludes.
Updated: 1:48 p.m. ET Sept 29, 2007
WASHINGTON - Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich will not run for president in 2008 after determining he could not legally explore a bid and remain as head of his tax-exempt political organization, a spokesman said Saturday.
“Newt is not running,” spokesman Rick Tyler said.
--------wow, these trolls are so "in the know"...hahahahaha...pinheads------
"Newt has already got his $30 million or he wouldn't be talking about not running if he doesn't get it. Newt will announce that he is running for President on Oct 21."
Posted by Warren-G-Oatmeal on September 28, 2007 at 11:33 PM
"Newt will be the eventual nominee. None of the current Democrat contenders could compete with him in a debate. He would prove them to be fools.
Posted by Warren-G-Oatmeal on September 29, 2007 at 05:22 AM"
If someone in the Armed Forces decides to go to Cancun, do they need a passport? If there are in Germany during a short deployment, do they need a passport to travel around Europe? Why does not the U.S. supply all troops passports?
well if the trolls want to vent their idiocy here let's post some of the gems from over at red snake about the newt abdication of the throne....
"You won't have Newt to kick around anymore by Charging Piper
I've always been surprised by the consistent anti-Newt bias here at RedState. It shows up here again even when the guy says he isn't running.
Newt Gingrich is the only living Republican who can credibly be mentioned in the same breath at Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan. Its a shame he is not running. We needed his big ideas and his unparalled ability to articulate conservative views in front of any audience. Instead we have a bunch of cowards who are afraid of Tavis Smiley.
I had hoped for Newt's candidacy. Clearly I am in the minority on this site. The field will be poorer without Newt. Oh yeah, and he won't endorse another Republican in the primary. Period. But expect him to be a good soldier when we settle on our nominee."
" No Longer A Fan by Jacob Coulter
I used to be a big fan of Newt's, he is an extremely articulate conservative, but some of his recent statements and actions, such as his eagerness to slam his fellow Republicans, and his fawning praise of Hillary, have really made me turn sour on him.
I haven't seen any new, innovative ideas from Newt that would justify him running or give him a platform to win the Republican nomination, much less the Presidency.
He really craves the limelight more than anything, and I think Conservatives should understand his main motivation seems to be to promote himself rather than helping our Party.
We're a lot better off without him making a vanity run for the White House. He would be nothing but a distraction from the field of serious candidates, and would be completely unelectable in a general election..."
"Reality: Thompson/Romney Dream: Santorum/Watts."
" Thank God!!! by Bourbeau
Newt was blowing smoke up everyone's butt, right up until the last minute. There's not a prayer's chance in hell he was going to run, even as he was musing about his consiglieres testing the waters to see if he could raise the $30 million."
........so the newt express was really a slow boat to bullshit.....hahahahaha
US Accused of Killing
Women and Children in Baghdad Raid
Full Story:
Rush Limbaugh Criticized The Military
Edwards Criticizes Limbaugh's Comments
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Democrats-Limbaugh.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
hey doc, please post your blog address so we can get an education...
Bush, Oil - and Moral Bankruptcy
By Ray McGovern
so last night the troll told us:
1. newt had the 30 million
2. newt would enter the presidential race on october 21st.
ahem, ahem....
Hey Lester, go and get informed before you post this crap on my blog, do something useful like working at the V.A. hospital.
Posted by Dr_Elroy_McBurd on September 29, 2007 at 07:55 PM
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Spoken like a true Bush Republican where America is their country and all they can do is pass gas. It seems Bush Republicans do not work in V.A. Hospitals look at their records. it takes real Democrats and Republican patriots to do that.
By the way where did you receive your doctorate? You know you can get in trouble for impersonating a doctor.
ok so the trolls don't want to talk about newt anymore after the love fest that they held in his honor last night so i will clear matters up for them. the reason newt ain't running is because though he is a sack of shit he is also an experienced politician and his reading of things is that in 08 THE REPUBLICANS ARE GONNA GET THEIR ASSES KICKED NO MATTER WHO THEY RUN BECAUSE BUSH HAS BUILT UP MORE ILL WILL TOWARD THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AMONG THE PEOPLE THAN ANY PRESIDENT SINCE HERBERT HOOVER....and that's the fact jack.
bbl.
gregg, looks like the sewer is running through the blog tonight:>>>Dr_Elroy_McBurd Harpo_Thinks_you_are_asshats Cactusdan
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lester, please post the address of dr elroy's blog.
Posted by gregg on September 29, 2007 at 07:59 P
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Actually I do not know it, for I do not go to quack sites, or I would report him for a sanity check. Evening Gregg.
dlester,
The Dr stands for dumb republican conehead.
"Newt no doubt did have the 30 million in pledges, he probably called them all up today and told them it wouldn't be needed.
Posted by Warren-G-Oatmeal on September 29, 2007 at 08:34 PM"
now this is just how far in fantasy land the trolls are. imagine this....newt asks for a million in pledges, presto the money arrives, newt is looking out over the fair land from his widow's walk and says to his trusty assistant egor...."my boy as much as the nation would benefit from my reign it will benefit even more from my "american solutions" scam....call the donors boy and tell them we are sending back the checks! and egor fetch my riding crop and leather soap from the stables...i feel the need to prove some geometry theroms tonight!".
yes that's it newt will be drafted! but then i thought he avoids drafts?
no, fuck you doc.
evening john.
hmmmm hoover led to four terms for fdr....truman led to two for ike....who by the way would be drumed out of your nut ball party these days for not being a "real" war hero like the presidummie and cheney and rush are....
Evening gregg,
What's the whining I hear from the trolls. I guess they are trying to emulate rash limpballs.
Repugs have sex in bathroom stalls, screw little boys and girls, believe in creationism, screw Americans, start endless wars for oil, Don't give a shit about the environment, practise corruption, lie, steal, and drink too much.
Being A Bush Team Player
TEMECULA, Calif. - He was one of America's first defenders on Sept. 11, 2001, a Marine who pulled burned bodies from the ruins of the Pentagon. He saw more horrors in Kuwait and Iraq.
Today, he can't keep a job, pay his bills, or chase thoughts of suicide from his tortured brain. In a few weeks, he may lose his house, too.
Gamal Awad, the American son of a Sudanese immigrant, exemplifies an emerging group of war veterans: the economic casualties.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070929/ap_on_he_me/coming_home_wounded_the_price;_ylt=AmKCU4ZUQ8NaxfJoSrKLrEis0NUE
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If you lost your job for writing poetry on work time (more than likely you'd been warned about stopping it several times) than it's not President Bush's problem.
It's yours.
Posted by Harpo_Thinks_you_are_asshats on September 29, 2007 at 07:11 PM
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You see Harpo, it did not have to be at work, it could have been anywhere including my own home, that meant I had to hide from them a creative writing class I took at the University of Alabama, for the first word I wrote was grounds for terminating me for Poetry. In the end every word I wrote down they determined was poetry even words defining it. Hell, I could not have poetry in my vehicle at work for awhile.
So harpo you are right they had the right to terminate me "At Will" in Alabama but with no home , no future, and only this dream of a Free Speech America, I move from friends to motel rooms doing what I love to do. It is the only thing left, I love to do, they won, David lost. So as my health deteriorates and I see the end of my American dream, I do wish you yours. So gloat Harpo, you can also put a nail in my coffin.
Let us suppose that President Bush had a program to silence Americans from speaking out, and he set the IRS against a churches for a Free Speech sermons, how many were on Bush's hit list?
While I may have been not on any list, just by writing against Iraq not Afghanistan people were listed causing them trouble in Bush country. Look at Hillary, why she even had to buckle with the Bush threats and never did her homework. Look at the Plame incident where she was ruined because of her husband's statement.
Do you what Harpo, even as corrosive as you get I would never silence you. Why, because your own words come back to haunt you! Bless you Harpo someone has too. At least you name was not Goliath who fell with the President.
I think the only think I live for is writing (waiting) until Bush is gone and I can die a patriot with Freedom and Democracy after the day of repatriation. Then they can cut my Ben Franklin hair for wigs for cancer victims.
I see the typos, who cares. Good night all and let us debate back into a country not divide as trolls. For trolls do have something to say if they are building and destroying things. Everyone has a voice and fingers to be heard especially in their own homes that is when a troll becomes a patriot.
It's so nice to know that the bottom 28% is getting screwed out of their homes by this mortgage meltdown!
WASHINGTON (AP) -- It is gallows humor time for Republicans in Congress, where one lawmaker jokes that "there's talk about us going the way of the Whigs," the 19th century political party long extinct.
Additionally, nine Republicans in the House and three in the Senate have announced plans to retire. Some of those leaving are in midcareer, when a departure often signals pessimism about the prospects for regaining the majority. Democratic retirements total two to date - both are House members who are running for the Senate.
"The Democrats will continue to be the majority party in the House and Senate and Hillary Clinton will make history by being the first woman president" in 2008, predicts Rep. Ray LaHood, one of three Illinois Republicans to announce his retirement so far.
A recent Gallup poll reported that 59 percent of those surveyed have an unfavorable impression of the Republican Party. By a margin of 47-42 percent, they said Democrats will do a better job of protecting against terrorism and military threats. Asked which party would better maintain prosperity, the majority preferred the Democrats, 54-34.
Despite their woes, numerous Republicans say they may have weathered the worst of it. HaHaHaHaHaHa
"Whoever it is, it won't be George W. Bush," said Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind. "I deeply admire the president, *****Get rid of this asshole*****but many Americans have a somewhat unmovable impression of the president at this point," he added.
Leading Indicators Point Down for GOP
one of the bigger stories of the week was the collapse of the attempt to apportion california's electoral votes by congressional district. and of course at the bottom of the outhouse looking up with it's shit eating grin is rudy ghouliani's face:
September 28, 2007
MOUTH EXCLUSIVE: CALIFORNIA MONEYMAN UNMASKED
Rudy Giuliani’s top fundraiser, hedge fund giant Paul Singer, revealed himself today as the sole financial backer of a stalled ballot drive to turn California into a motherlode of Republican votes in 2008.
Singer’s disclosure, made in a statement to The Daily News, came a day after Republican operatives in the Golden State announced they were halting their ballot effort, in part because they were unsure of their own funders’ identity.
The group, Californians for Equal Representation, had received exactly one donation for $175,000, from a mysterious, Missouri-based corporation identified only as Take Initiative America.
The lack of specifics left organizers in California open to allegations they had something to hide, and several — among them lead lawyer Tom Hiltachk and spokesman Kevin Eckery — resigned Thursday rather than defend the arrangement.
“I have demanded that Take Initiative America fully disclose the source of its funds and have been assured that it will do so,” Hiltachk said in resigning. “Nonetheless, I am deeply troubled by their failure to disclose.”
But Singer, apparently eager to put the disclosure issue to rest, yesterday stepped out of the shadows to reveal himself.
“I contributed to the Take Initiative America because I believe in proportional voting in the Electoral College,” Singer said in a statement e-mailed to The News. “I made the contribution without any restrictions, including whether or how it would need to be disclosed. I left disclosure completely up to TIA.”
Sources added later that all $175,000 came from Singer, a founding partner of Elliot Associates, a $7 billion hedge fund with a long history of funding GOP causes.
The ballot initiative, if approved, would have changed how California apportions its electoral college votes. Under the states’ current winner-take-all system, the Democratic nominee has traditionally pocketed all 55 electoral votes in the left-leaning state — the nation’s largest electoral prize.
Instead, electoral votes would be apportioned to the winner in each congressional district — a change likely to shift up to 22 of those 55 votes into the GOP column, given the number of safely Republican districts in the state.
For the GOP, it would be a bonanza, akin to adding a large, new Republican state to the map.
“It’s the practical equivalent of painting Ohio or Pennsylvania red, before the election even starts,” said Republican consultant Dan Schnur.
Sources close to Singer insisted that his support for the ballot change was unrelated to his work for the Giuliani campaign, where he is a member of the national finance committee.
Campaign insiders say Singer has helped raise well over $500,000 for the former mayor’s presidential bid, making him their top rainmaker.
But opponents of the ballot drive scoffed at suggestions Giuliani wasn’t at least tacitly aware of Singer’s giving.
“It’s pretty clear that all of this is coming back to bite Rudy in his posterior,” said Democratic strategist Chris Lehane, who had worked to defeat the ballot initiative.
Giuliani senior advisor Anthony Carbonetti said simply, “There is no coordination between the Giuliani campaign and any statewide effort.”
Either way, it seems unlikely Singer’s disclosure will resurrect the ballot push.
When told of Singer’s involvement late Friday, Eckery said simply, “I am glad someone is coming forward. And from our standpoint, it would have been perfectly fine to have his name earlier.”
Posted by ER on September 29, 2007 at 09:33 PM
Yeah, and the CEO of Countrywide sold his stock off and screwed the stockholders. On top of that, his buddy bush bailed them out with our money. He is probably on a beach in Mexico enjoying the sun.
newt is out. rudy is sinking under his third wifes face lift. thompson lasted about a week and faded into early onset brain death. could big love somehow win over the fundies? seems unlikely so there is only one solution ( well except for the troll's prediction that newt will be drafted at the convention--ho, ho )and that is tom delay picking up the baton and riding to the rescue...hahahahaha
Posted by Warren-G-Oatmeal on September 28, 2007 at 11:33 PM
"Newt will be the eventual nominee. None of the current Democrat contenders could compete with him in a debate. He would prove them to be fools.
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Newt Gingrich is a joke and nothing but a scumbag. Gingich is just another Republican that brings disgrace when it comes to values, his behavior was just like the devil. Newt Gingrich was cheating on his wife who was dying while denouncing former President Bill Clinton yet even today you have Repubicans who defend Gingrich and his adultery while his wife was on her death bed from cancer. Talk about hypocrisy from Gingrich and Republicans who actually make up excuses and defend this idiot. Gingrich is a selfish pig and he stands for nothing! Hypocrisy is nothing new to Newt, who extolled family values after serving divorce papers on his wife while she lay dying of cancer. Not exactly the kind of behavior Christ would approve of but then again Republicans these days sends out the message to do as I say not as I do. I do have to say Gingrich is probably the worst of them all afther the horrible thing he did. For his own sake if he even has the smallest amount of faith he should beg God for forgiveness for doing such a terrible and cruel thing. I have no respect for Gingrich at all.
War and "Peak Oil"
Confessions of an ‘ex’ Peak Oil believer
Big Oil wants to sustain high oil prices. Dick Cheney and friends are all too willing to assist.
by F. William Engdahl
Rudy Giuliani
A betrayal of trust
Watch the ad:
Americans had elected a new Congress to bring them home. Instead, Bush sent 30,000 more troops. George Bush, A Betrayal of Trust
Watch the ad:
Rush Limbaugh,
always smearing the troops
by kos
hey dka good to see you keeping it lit. got caught up in the florida auburn game. amazing. auburn was a three touchdown underdog and won on a field goal in the last three seconds at gainesville. love to see those obnoxious florida fans eat dirt.
looks like the trolls all got swept up and put in the ashcan where they belong. be back tomorrow morning.
Hi Gregg, I hope you're having a nice evening. Question, do you have any idea why the people who run this DNC website don't block/ban these far right trolls from posting here? They do it on the Daily Kos why don't they here? The Republican trolls aren't here to have a debate they are simply here to start trouble and arguements.
i have no idea. i keep hoping they will fix it soon but i like this site. i visit kos some and it is a great resource, but this home for me cyber world wise.
Senator and Democratic hopeful Mike Gravel speaks about the Iraq war.
Watch the video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CUws_4TCScM&mode=related&search=
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Offical website:
http://www.gravel2008.us
The Bush-Aznar tapes:
glimpse of a gangster preparing for war
By Bill Van Auken
Check this out. John Perkins worked for the World Bank starting about 1969.
"JOHN PERKINS: Well, really, I think it’s fair to say that since World War II, we economic hit men have managed to create the world's first truly global empire, and we've done it primarily without the military, unlike other empires in history. We've done it through economics very subtly."
"We work many different ways, but perhaps the most common one is that we will identify a third world country that has resources our corporations covet, such as oil, and then we arrange a huge loan to that country from the World Bank or one of its sister organizations. The money never actually goes to the country. It goes instead to US corporations, who build big infrastructure projects -- power grids, industrial parks, harbors, highways -- things that benefit a few very rich people but do not reach the poor at all. The poor aren’t connected to the power grids. They don’t have the skills to get jobs in industrial parks. But they and the whole country are left holding this huge debt, and it’s such a big bet that the country can't possibly repay it. So at some point in time, we economic hit men go back to the country and say, “Look, you know, you owe us a lot of money. You can't pay your debt, so you’ve got to give us a pound of flesh.”
John Perkins on "The Secret History of the American Empire: Economic Hit Men, Jackals, and the Truth about Global Corruption"
No wonder bush and cheney appointed cronies to the world bank and I can see now why chavez hates our guts. This world bank group goes in and makes a deal with the countries under the guise of creating democracy but it only benefits only the rich scabs. Poor people are thrown to the curb. This is what bush and cheney are fine tuning around the world in our name.
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