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First thought for a Wsdnesday:
Philippians 2:1-4 (NRSV)
If then there is any encouragement in Christ, any consolation from love, any sharing in the Spirit, any compassion and sympathy, make my joy complete: be of the same mind, having the same love, being in full accord and of one mind. Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility regard others as better than yourselves. Let each of you look not to your own interests, but to the interests of others.
Good Day, all!!
Good morning, Democrats.
The debate was really good. It was a lively debate. I liked them all. It seems that Hillary and Obama had more time to talk. Edwards was really, REALLY good. He's the type of person that would swing the Southern states blue, and do good out West. Richardson is the same way. Gov Richardson would do well in the South, and could win all of Texas' electoral votes. Dems win in a landslide with Texas and Florida.
Biden was good too. Too bad he's from a nothing state. He's very smart. He's the kind of person I'd like to see on the Supreme Court. Too bad he's another white male. He would make an excellent Supreme Court Justice. He had some great zingers on Rudy, "the most unqualified ever... all he uses in a verb, a noun and 9/11." LOL.
I made the comment earlier that Obama didn't pass the honesty test about the "uniter" claim. I have good reason for making this claim. Tonight, Obama attempted verify this claim, but failed. When pointing to his work in the Illinois State Senate, he tried to take credit for the death row reforms. Nope. Senate Leader Emil Jones (D) and Democrats control the Senate, so it didn't take a "uniter." The IL Senate Democrats can pass anything they want. Besides, it was the Republican Gov who was facing jail, and made the Executive Order to redeem his image, character, and polling.
And we all know that Fiengold and McCain came together for campaign finance, so that was not his work as a "uniter." Let's face it, the whole "uniter" thing is more code for talking nice and making deals with republicans, rather than having excellent negotiating skills. Every politician in the US Senate is a skilled negotiator. And if Obama was a uniter as he claims, he would've helped the Senate at least pass one close vote. But that hasn't happened. It certainly appears that Obama is more rhetoric than experience or accomplishments.
One thing for certain, any of the Democrats would do much better than any of the republicans. It's interesting to see that already Romney and Rudy are taking on Hillary for not having Executive management experience. I saw that coming.
Like Gov Richardson pointed out: 7 of our last 8 Presidents had Executive experience. This makes a really good case for Richardson or Gore. We all know that they twist Senate votes, AND sadly we cant count on the media to sort out the facts from the chaff. I continue to believe that it's very important to have Executive experience in a candidate profile. But what do I know... I'm just the 800 lbs DOG in the room. :-P
Here is more cheney bullshit. One of bush's cronies is spewing this shit now. This is all part of cheney's buildup for war with Iran.
I can't stand it any more.
IMPEACH CHENEY AND BUSH NOW!
Russia's Izvestia Reports:
Speaking on Tuesday at the annual conference of the Washington Institute for the non-governmental Middle East, Assistant to the President of the United States on counter-terrorism issues Frances Fragos Townsend argued that "lethal assistance to a number of groups in Iraq boevikov-shiitov" provides special services "Al-Quds", a member of the Corps " the Islamic revolution "- part of the elite Iranian armed forces.
Such assistance takes the form of the supply of weapons to Iraqi fighters, their training and funding, transfer them to the directives, said Officer White House. - сообщает ИТАР-ТАСС. , reported Itar-Tass.
"Iran also sends weapons of the Taliban in Afghanistan," she continued, and remains unwilling to report on the fate of the principals group "Al-Qaeda", detained in the 2003 year, bring them to justice. "
The United States accused Iran of supporting extremists in Iraq and the Taliban in Afghanistan
We really need fairness and truth in the press. Wolf has THREE HOURS in Prime time to get his message out. We can't let him spread lies, and let lies fly. Bring back Crossfire!
Blitzer did not challenge Huckabee's claim that Saddam "said that he had" WMD
Summary: On CNN's Late Edition, Wolf Blitzer failed to challenge Mike Huckabee's claim that Saddam Hussein "said that he had" weapons of mass destruction. In fact, in December 2002, Iraq issued a declaration to United Nations weapons inspectors on its chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons programs and its long-range missile programs, and CNN.com reported that "Iraqi officials say the report proves Baghdad has no weapons of mass destruction."
More Republican hacks with programs to shape the news America views at dinner time:
MSNBC's Carlson falsely claimed he does not "touch" Bill Clinton's "sex life"
On the October 29 edition of MSNBC's Tucker, host Tucker Carlson discussed the just-released book Write It When I'm Gone (Putnam Adult), by Thomas DeFrank, Washington bureau chief for the New York Daily News, and noted that the book, which features off-the-record interviews with President Gerald Ford over a 16-year period, quotes Ford saying that President Bill Clinton "has a sexual addiction," and "needs to get help -- for his sake." Carlson stated that "President Bill Clinton's sex life" is "something we never talk about on this show 'cause we know the answer. It's still kind of interesting." He later added: "I don't touch this ... and Bill Clinton -- I mean, the idea of touching -- I mean, just the whole thing is cringe-making." But contrary to Carlson's assertion that "we never talk" about "Clinton's sex life," as Media Matters for America has noted, Carlson has discussed the topic on several occasions, referring to President Clinton's "philander[ing]" and "famous appetites" while making the argument that the Clintons' marriage is a legitimate issue in the 2008 presidential election.
During the segment, which featured Politico senior political writer Jonathan Martin and Democratic strategist Peter Fenn, Carlson also said that Ford's comments about President Clinton would be an issue for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's (D-NY) presidential campaign, asserting, "I think it's something. ... I think if you're running on your husband, which she's doing -- people are voting for her 'cause of her husband." Carlson then accused Sen. Clinton herself of making her marriage an issue in her campaign, claiming that Clinton was "thrusting" her marriage "into our face," "inviting the question," and "pushing it on us." He said: "[I]f she wanted to keep us from talking about it, why are you running for president and thrusting your marriage into our face, which she is doing, day after day?"
What worse than lies about Dems... revisionists:
Sally Bedell Smith characterizes as "absolutely fair" Russert's suggestion that Hillary Clinton to blame for 40 million uninsured
On the October 27 edition of CNBC's The Tim Russert Show, during a discussion with Sally Bedell Smith, author of the just-released book, For Love of Politics: Bill and Hillary Clinton: The White House Years (Random House), Russert asserted, "On health care, when you read the inside reporting in your book about it, it is so striking that there are significant people in the Clinton administration, the Secretary of the Treasury Lloyd Bentsen; the economic adviser Robert Rubin -- I read somewhere that Donna Shalala, the Health and Human Services secretary, called the plan 'crazy'; Leon Panetta, the Office of Management and Budget; [then-Sen.] Pat Moynihan [D-NY], the chairman of the [Senate] Finance Committee; [then-Sen.] Bill Bradley [NJ], another Democrat; Republicans, all saying, 'We can do something, but this plan is too big, too much. Compromise and we can get a scaled measure through.' " Russert continued, "Ironically, the scaled measure they were all talking about is pretty close to the plan that [Sen.] Hillary Clinton [D-NY] has now adopted in 2008, which means that from 1993 to 2008, 40 million people went without care because she was so wedded to getting that plan -- her original plan -- through. Fair?" Smith replied, "Absolutely fair," and went on to assert that "if Hillary's White House had yielded to Bill's White House, we would've had a decent health care plan that would've worked for so many people."
Yeah, Carlson does a lot of talking about how he doesn't talk about, or want to know about, the Clintons personal life. In fact, he just talked yesterday for a full segment to two women, one from the Hill and one from the New Republic about how he doesn't want to know about it or talk about it.
Are we going to address the media's anti-labor, pro-war, corporate bias now, or wait for our nominee to get swift-boated again?
Morning Dems,
Here is a good review of the debate. It was a Media wet dream. They were Drooling that Hillary would get attacked. That some red meat would materialize in this debate and that Obama and Edwards would indeed attack her.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071031/ap_on_el_pr/democrats_debate
I think Richardson, for whatever reason he cautioned them , was correct, that to personally attack her on trust, etc was not called for.
Even if they believe that, what do they think the Repugs are going to do with that tidbit?
MSNBC Matthews and his round table after the debate made too big a deal about Hillary giving two answers to the Spitzer giving licenses question. Dodd with his "driving is a privilege, so we should not give them a privilege' was an example of really not understanding the fact, these guys are here! these guys are already driving in a lot of cases, unlike those in CA who bike it all year long. These guys must come out of the shadows to get a license. These guys will be required to get insurance to hold onto their license. Not giving them a license is not going to change a single solitary thing, other than they remain in the state and in some cases drive anyways. So Hillary should have made it clearer, she herself may not have made that decision, but she does not find it wrong of Spitzer to do so. What's the big deal?
Another hypocrit Republican has been caught with his pants down. It looks like a local Washington state politician that voted against gay rights legislation solicited sex from another man during a GOP retreat to Spokane.
The story doesn't leave much to the imagination so I'm not posting quotes.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6420AP_WA_Lawmaker_Extortion.html?source=mypi
Happy All Hallow's Eve, everyone!
The Tale of Jack O'Lantern
Jack, the Irish say, grew up in a simple village where he earned a reputation for cleverness as well as laziness. He applied his fine intelligence to wiggling out of any work that was asked of him, preferring to lie under a solitary oak endlessly whittling. In order to earn money to spend at the local pub, he looked for an "easy shilling" from gambling, a pastime at which he excelled. In his whole life he never made a single enemy, never made a single friend and never performed a selfless act for anyone.
One Halloween, as it happened, the time came for him to die. When the devil arrived to take his soul, Jack was lazily drinking at the pub and asked permission to finish his ale. The devil agreed, and Jack thought fast. "If you really have any power," he said slyly, "you could transform yourself into a shilling."
The devil snorted at such child’s play and instantly changed himself into a shilling. Jack grabbed the coin. He held it tight in his hand, which bore a cross-shaped scar. The power of the cross kept the devil imprisoned there, for everyone knows the devil is powerless when faced with the cross. Jack would not let the devil free until he granted him another year of life. Jack figured that would be plenty of time to repent. The devil left Jack at the pub.
The year rolled around to the next Halloween, but Jack never got around to repenting. Again the devil appeared to claim his soul, and again Jack bargained, this time challenging him to a game of dice, an offer Satan could never resist, but a game that Jack excelled at. The devil threw snake eyes—two ones—and was about to haul him off, but Jack used a pair of dice he himself had whittled. When they landed as two threes, forming the T-shape of a cross, once again the devil was powerless. Jack bargained for more time to repent.
He kept thinking he’d get around to repentance later, at the last possible minute. But the agreed-upon day arrived and death took him by surprise. The devil hadn’t showed up and Jack soon found out why not. Before he knew it Jack was in front of the pearly gates. St. Peter shook his head sadly and could not admit him, because in his whole life Jack had never performed a single selfless act. Then Jack presented himself before the gates of hell, but the devil was still seething. Satan refused to have anything to do with him.
"Where can I go?" cried Jack. "How can I see in the darkness?"
The devil tossed a burning coal into a hollow pumpkin and ordered him to wander forever with only the pumpkin to light his path. From that day to this he has been called "Jack o’ the Lantern." Sometimes he appears on Halloween!
Personally,I feel that the news media should be hands off for corporations.It gives them license to slant everthing toward their interests.It`s also stands out loud and clear that is what they are doing.Besides that they have turned the media news into a news show.This is a large part of why we are quickly losing any form of democracy.All we get is a one sided view.There is always a said or unsaid implication that anything other than this view is wrong.That`s not news it is propaganda.Enough!
Mornin' {{Y'all}},
Kristen, it's amazing how many hypocrites infest the Republic party. Guess they're putting the "party" in the party from the looks of it. I really resent how they'll stand on my back and the backs of millions of other GLBT constituents just to line their own pockets. Damn them for the opportunistic vultures that they are.
R. A. Heinlein (G'd rest his soul) had it exactly right: "All sin lies in hurting other people. All other 'sins' are invented nonsense. Hurting yourself isn't sinful -- it's just stupid." It's amazing how the goopers invent sins, then rail and hew and cry out against them, then get caught doing exactly what they tell other people not to.
It just reinforces my view that goopers are liars, hypocrites and thieves; not a decent human being amongst the lot of them. As for me, I'm sick of being trodden on and I'm ready to hand them a figurative fat lip at the polls this next election by way of a Dem landslide.
Kristen on October 31, 2007 at 08:59 AM
Hmmmm...mmm-huh...mmm-huh! There seems to be a recent trend of this behavior from Republicans, the family values party, the party of abstinence and only having sex with eyes closed, or is that crossed? It now occurs to me that they must be working covertly to assess, or re-assess, their parties position of the gay community. You know, to gain first hand knowledge to the question, "Does it really warp your spine?"
Yeah, that's it, they're throwing themselves under the bus to develop a real time sense of what it is they've done to others their whole life, and then they can reap the benefits of forgiveness.
But then again...I think I need another cup of coffee. "Taxi...!"
did anyone notice in the debate last night, especially at the end how hillary clinton was flipflooping? and obama wasn't much better. i thought kuchinich was right on. when we elected the dems in 2006, it was to hold bush accountable along with cheney. none of them have done it. but kuchinich is intending, before thanksgiving on introducing atricles of impeachment against cheney and bush. he understands our constitution and was the only person referring to it. he also understands king george and darth vader are dangerous and in a very nice way, he called bush insane. edwards, i thought also did a good job. truth is most important to me. i can always tell when a person is only saying things they think people want to hear, such as king george does. and that is what clinton's been doing. now, on news here from fremont ohio, the dem base here is very angry with the elected dems. they thought the dems were going to listen to us. to hold this illegal regieme accoutable and impeach all of them. they haven't the dem base here in fremont ohio are feeling that the dems are acting like the republicans and shunning all of us and truning their backs. so do you know what they are all doing? they are going to board of elections and signing up to be independents. i warned all the elected officials. i e-mailed all of them. they wouldn't listen to me. so i guess this is what they deserve. have a good holloween and IMPEACH NOW!
Good morning, all.
J,
This article backs up everything you said yesterday. Boy, do you have him pegged.
Tuesday, October 30, 2007
Only Dem to Lose Claims to Be Expert On How Dems Can Win
Harold Ford was the only top-tier Democratic candidate to lose a major election in 2006, and yet as the chairman of the corporate-funded Democratic Leadership Council, he is running around telling everyone how to win elections. He's also pushing to raise the Social Security retirement age, and claiming that populists like Jon Tester (D-MT) and Jim Webb (D-VA) actually ran DLC-style campaigns sucking up to corporations (like, say, Merrill Lynch, where Ford is currently a vice president). No really - I'm not kidding. See this Newsweek interview for what I'm talking about...
www.workingassetsblog.com/
HillWilliam4Edwards08 on October 31, 2007 at 09:31 AM
That's the best intent that I know. I truly hope that is what happens. How do youn like Heir Bush's accusations about this Democratic Congress? As if any Congress, that lacks override ability, can undo the damage this flock of Republican political fuck ups have done the past twelve years. God had a special place for them...indeed!!
MichaelLink on October 31, 2007 at 09:58 AM
No plans, only excuses!! Son is flip-flopping about t / t'ing...ah, we'll see what the night brings. This would be the first time he's had the opportunity to t/t in Maine in five years. As usual, with me, money is always an issue, and I hate that.
You? What plans do you have?
Michael,
The last few years when I lived in town, I did the yard up bigtime. The kids weren't so impressed (single-mindedly looking for the sugary loot) but the grownups were wide-eyed and appreciative. Halloween was always a blast. Lots of folks stopped for pictures. Of course, my favorite candidates' yard signs were part of the decorations (more'n one way to get a point across!)
Alas, this year I won't be doing anything at all. One of the very few down-sides of living way-way out in the country is the lack of trick-or-treaters. If anyone manages to find my house these days, they're really REALLY lost :-)
So, we'll be holed up inside tonight with the doggages, probably watching FSTV and Keith O again.
Self-Help - A Club in Verbage Form
Once the Right-wingnuts, the extrememists, Christian Right and anyone else that saw opportunity to get on the bashing band wagon the term "self-help" was wielded around on black Americans like a bat.
The above mentioned group sat and decided if they were going to continuously cripple African-Ameircans and basically put a stop to any activism by them as a group, then place the blame for their socioeconomic status squarely on them. Blame them for basically for what has occured to them in the last 150 years. Then once they have been convinced that they themselves are the problem with how their lives have transgressed then tell them they are personally responsible for what becomes of their status economically, socially, judicially, educationally so forth and so on. Never mind that more than likely they don't have the tools to accomplish such a thing and are hand tied by legislative changes and Supreme Court rulings that work against them.
This has been the rallying cry of the Right-wing for the last decade and the saddest part of all are the so called black Americans that bought into this load of crap. Black clergy ran behind it like pit bulls after meat. But then they were baited with the promise of faith-based dollars from the Feds that never appeared. They should have known better with their training of listening to "false prophets". And look at Bill Cosby! This old fool who has made millions, runs around the country blaming poor black folk for being poor. You would expect better from him seeing that he has earned a PhD in education.
The point is this: The Feds, politicians, religious leaders, celebrities and whoever else that feels the need should stop, look and listen before they prejudge and tell black Americans or ANY ethnic group or group of citizens for that matter that they need to do some "self-help" so as to change their status when knowing full well they do not have the tools. Another good example of this philosophy is the illegal immigrants. Thank God black folk never let themselves get pulled into that situation. But in essence many said that these folks could just go back to Mexico. Well how the hell are they going to just to pull up with the parents illegal and the kids legal and the family or community has "settled" into this country's way of life? More importantly, why should they have to solve a problem that they themselves didn't make. The big Fortune 500 game players made the mess - they should have been made to clean it up.
Black Americans still riding that self-help train, get off at the next stop. You're doing what the racists/bigots want you to do - harm your bretheren.
Peace \/
http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=410&Itemid=33
Posted by SandyH on October 31, 2007 at 09:52 AM
What really rattles me about him is that he is runn' around tellin' folk to be careful as where they want to take the DEM party.
Man couldn't even decently represent his own Congressional District adequetely.
Davidual,
One of the few remaining irritations that I have is that so many people either didn't pay attention to civics in grade school or are just blindly accepting the nattering of MSM about the current Congress. It's shocking that so many people have little-to-no idea of how our government works.
The MSM like to go on and on about a Democratic-controlled Congress. That simply isn't the case. While, yes, we have a nominal majority of seats, it isn't enough to transact business at the level that people expect. The rethugs are resorting to EVERY tactic they whined about the Dems thinking of using (and truly, should have used). Consequently, there is very little that can get done in the Senate.
Yet MSM likes to tarnish the Dems by repeating the meme that there is a Dem-controlled Congress (no, it isn't) and the effect is to piss of the uninformed Dem voter. More's the pity, it works, to a degree.
I wish more people understood the plain fact that if we want to end the illegal occupation of Iraq, to put a stop to illegal domestic spying, to right the extensive damage to our economy, to ensure that there will be clean air and water, we must put a veto-proof majority into Congress first. It ain't gonna happen any other way. The rethug contract-on-America junta has to be put out of power and punished for the wrongs they committed.
As for the numerous environmental issues (my hot-button today), I have only one thing to say to those who don't think that's important: to allow corporations to continue to pollute the air and water that belong to us, the taxpayers and citizens of this country, is exactly the same as allowing someone to come in and shit in your living room, then you just live with it there, festering and stinking. Only nasty people want to live like that. And from all appearances, rethugs are some nasty, nasty people.
With a veto-proof majority in Congress, we can begin to live like decent, clean human beings again; moreover, we'll leave a beautiful legacy and bounty to our future generations that they and we can be proud of, instead of this republic-born festering wasteland they're creating along with mountains of debt.
Unless we wish to continue to live in filth and poverty, then we've got to have Dem control of the government for generations yet to come.
{{J}}
I wonder just how much of America has cottoned onto the republic penchant for blaming the victim. No matter what mess they make, they never accept blame for anything even when any fool could plainly see where the mess came from. The right has gotten pure-dee tiresome for all its nattering on and on and on about "personal responsibility" -- yet, QED, they never, ever, ever undertake any of it.
The rest of us have to do for ourselves. I have more faith in the goodness of America than the GOP "leadership" does. The GOP want to rule because they don't know how to lead. African Americans produced the King family -- I have faith that G'd will grant us another like them to lead (not rule or blame) our nation out of this benighted mess the GOP have put us in.
I think most folks are like me: I'd rather die on my feet than to have to live on my knees. It gets me bruised and bopped around a lot for it, but one day you wake up and say, "y'know? I'm tired, sick unto death of this mess; a grown man doesn't have to just accept this as 'life'.". That's the day you start getting healthy again and making the world around you healthy again.
The more we grab hands and stand together, the better off we'll be. I believe it.
Global warming has become an issue that divides evangelicals in America. Liberal and even some conservative evangelicals are willing to acknowledge that human actions are harming the environment and that changes need to be made. Most conservative evangelicals continue to insist that there are no problems and nothing to change, just like the Republican Party tells them. if it was written in the bible these people would accept global warming without question.
For that matter, Bill, Democrats were effectually locked out of the previous six congresses, but did not resort to obstructionist tactics because they know that such tactics would be bad for our country as a whole. Our democratic leadership has allowed their republican counterparts full opportunity to debate all of the issues, and the republicans have used this to tie up the work of the people. It is just as filibuster Bob did in 1992 - 1994, and it worked well for them then and they are gambling that with the continual assistance of their friends in the media it will work well for them again.
Just say no, to the media manipulation and the republicans!!
The more we grab hands and stand together, the better off we'll be. I believe it.
Posted by HillWilliam4Edwards08 on October 31, 2007 at 10:50 AM
Truer words never spoken, my friend.
The more of us who stand together, united in our fight, the stronger we will be. Look back at the group of First Americans fighting a British Army and rule, and their passion and their cause led them to victory. We can Overcome!
United we can stand, divided we will fall.
I will not sit back and be a victim! I will not go down easily to this Neo Con Regime that wants to do what Hitler did in Germany! These power hungry PNAC nazis in the US wants to cleanse out the Middle Class. Have only the wealthy and the low class to serve them and make them wealthier.
I will not let them !
and I pity those who stand on the sidelines, watch this happen, are naive and easily swayed enough to pull a Red lever ! Will they wake up?
Posted by MichaelLink on October 31, 2007 at 09:58 AM
Yep. We get quite a bit of trick or treaters, so every year I dress up as a witch and scare the beejeesus out of the kiddies. Fun fun fun!
We only get a couple of kids on Halloween, as we are a tiny little dead end street and the kids want to keep running on the Main drag.
I miss the days of dressing up my own girls and sending them out with their Dad.
Good morning,
I'm fifty-three today. Think I'll take the day off and hang around with my friends and better half. Then cry into the Wine-Dark Sea when the sun goes down.
Take a day off from frightening kids.
Many Happy Returns, TomN! I just turned 50 in June and so far, I'm likin' 50's a lot. Hope they're treating you well.
g'morning everyone,
don't know how many of you saw the 40th anniversary issue of 'rolling stone' magazine, if not, check it out. it basically centers on the events of 1967 and the huge influence they've had on america since. here's one particularly interesting paragraph for your enjoyment...
A few years ago, Bill Clinton offered an astute assessment of the decade that shaped the politics of his generation. "If you look back on the Sixties and on balance you think there was more good than harm in it, you're probable a Democrat," Clinton observed. "If you think that there was more harm than good, then you're probably a Republican." That polarization is the real legacy of the Summer of Love. On a cultural level, our daily lives--the music we listen to, the air we breathe, the rights we are afforded--remain shaped, in large measure, by the progressive movements of that era and the victories they achieved. But on a political level, the social and religious forces who are determined to roll back those victories are still in charge.
The article concludes on the point that 1/3 of voting age americans in 2008 weren't even born yet in 1967 and that the resolution to the divisions and hatred begun during that era might ultimately rest with them. The fascists have neglected and repressed our young people, but we will not. We dare not.
had the radio in the car on to the local conservative hate filled show this morning.
The head of the State Republican party called in to chat about the Debates.
His observation? Oh those damn Democrats, all they do is complain and find things wrong and criticize and have a negative pessimistic view of the country!!! I was wishing I were not driving, so I could call in and tell him WHAT on earth Good could the Dems possibly talk about? To name ONE good thing that Bush has brought about to help out the people.
Idiots, all of them.
Pam,
When called on their crap, the pugs only whine that nobody's reporting any good news. Just like Laura Bush whining about all the bad news about the illegal invasion of Iraq... they never name anything good that's good for the country, the economy or anything else. Know why? There ain't anything good to say. The pugs have made messes for 30 years. That hasn't changed and isn't going to change. Unless BushCo does something truly stupid like cancelling the 2008 elections, their days of whining are over.
Good riddance. Let the investigations and prosecutions begin.
Posted by HillWilliam4Edwards08 on October 31, 2007 at 11:27 AM
Thank you kindly. Fifties seem to bring on some extra freedoms. Get to shed stuff that's not so important as life moves on.
I heard a good joke on the Tonight Show last night.
Cheney travels with an ambulance when he goes hunting these days....so he can attract lawyers to shoot at.
Happy Halloween, everyone. And happy hunting to those who enjoy the sport. Tis the season.
Good morning all good Dems,
Pam, I know what you mean. These people are disgusting.
Hill, they always blame the victim and accuse them of the very thing they do.
bbl. Going to town. I hope my laptop will start again. I am having trouble with the screen. It was all garbage and jibberish until I discovered that if I pressed on the screen at the top it worked fine.
I saw Blitzer and the situation show on CNN for the first time yesterday. Yea, I have been willfully ignorant. I had to ask my mother who that clown was. (She has cable.)
What I saw was conflict and strife between people and political parties. Putting down, pretty much, of political people and parties with quips and quick opinions till cynicism won out. Petty politics and people are losers. Then came the commercials.
First I saw the sponsorship by BP screen, then fancy commericals. Next break was Lockeed-Martin followed by its show of war stuff with soldiers protecting the bunch of us. And their slogan, something like, "we remember where our support comes from". And the corporations won.
The show and the mongering all done with emotional jolting to make the experience pleasurable. But the messsage I got out of it all was corporations help with security and stability and employment while political people and issues are somewhat amusing, but changeable, dishonest, and ultimately risky.
Money and business seem to be running the show, they get control and win when they can divide and conquer peoples by setting them off against each other.
How would you feel about China’s sovereign investment fund gaining 51% of news corp? Some nations can play the business game, and some businesses can play the nation game. The people are playing the pawns.
Posted by J on October 31, 2007 at 08:07 AM
I agree with your candidate assessment and about that noose thing - I think that damn flag is just as heinous if not more!!
It makes me cringe (and I'm white) I can only imagine how your blood must boil over it J. It's totally humiliating and embarrassing that CHENEY & W are still walking around FREE. For they are CRIMINALS and TRAITORS to this NATION and MOST Of it's PEOPLE!!!
argh!
G-day to the rest of you! I'm catching up. The Pumpkin is outside the door and the sign is on the door saying we WILL be participating in Halloween and our place is a SAFE place to visit! My daughter has carved 3 pumpkins in the last week. She took two to work unfortunately but the other is outside the door and the dog WON'T leave it be! HAHAHA!
Blessed BE! ;-)
Word up, it's not the little brown people who are taking our jobs and social programs away. It's the republic profiteering piratizers who've been shipping our jobs offshore along with our dollars, where we'll never touch either again. As for the social programs, if BushCo hadn't stolen the money for an illegal invasion of a country that wasn't bothering us, Medicare and Social Security would have been plenty solvent. The facts bear that out repeatedly. The facts, also published on many of the governments own web sites are that illegals are consuming less that .4% (less than one percent) of social programs meant for Americans.
It's a typical republic ploy to ruin something that was perfectly fine to start with, then blame the victims for the situation they were forced into, not of their own choosing. If the republics had made their corporate crony buddies obey labor and immigration laws, we wouldn't have a flood of undocumented workers -- Americans would have been getting a fair wage for jobs we're perfectly capable and willing to do for ourselves. Again, it's so much easier to blame someone else rather than to take any of the "personal responsibility" they natter on so much about. BTW, it was the last republic-controlled Congress that relieved a lot of legislation that would have held corporations accountable... over thirty important laws that would have punished corporations for hiring illegals.
Can't have any republic megadonors inconvenienced with minutia like laws, heaven help.
Irritated about a flood of undocumented workers pouring across the border? Thank the 106-109th (Republic-controlled) Congresses for fixing the laws so their corporate cronies could get away with under-pricing jobs so that Americans simply can't afford to fill them -- and those same corporate cronies fill them -- knowingly and willingly -- with exactly that which amounts to slave labor. These are the plans that they have the rest of us. If you want secure borders, then make sure that we have a veto-proof majority in Congress, so that the Republics won't have the technical standing that they do now to thwart effective legislation.
Didn't I see the first lady holding hands with the king of Saudi Arabia yesterday? The condign cuckold marriage that makes the world dance?
Posted by ap215 on October 31, 2007 at 12:22 PM
:-O u scared me!
Same 2u AP215(215 what?) :-]
Who won the debate? (on Ed's website)
for all the JE lovers - he's way ahead!
Here's a nice story for those with young ladies in their families...and young men.
It's not so nice for Republicans that would like to do away with Title IX just like they have affirmative action. I see the potential here for getting a lot of young women to get out and vote.
'One Team, One Book' teaches girl players about Title IX
By Christine Byers
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
10/31/2007
Ask me about Title IX
Volleyball co-captain Missy Leonard waves to the crowd during the Oct. 5, Hillsoboro High School Homecoming Parade. Leonard and the rest of the volleyball team wore T-shirts that said, "Ask me about Title IX."
Hillsboro — Librarians at Hillsboro High School have crossed the invisible boundary between academics and athletics.
With the blessing of the girls volleyball coaches, the librarians asked the team to read a book this semester called "Let Me Play: The Story of Title IX" and devote the last 30 minutes of four practice sessions to discuss what they read.
Often, the talks went on much longer.
It was the first time students like Amy Stinson and Missy Leonard, both 17, learned that the sports they cherish weren't always available for girls. They listened with mouths agape as their principal, Cheryl Aylesworth, recalled how she couldn't play basketball for her high school in the 1960s.
Linda Carpenter, a former professor at City University of New York who studies the effects of Title IX, said the librarians' reading program provided a valuable lesson.
"It's wonderful for today's young women to have the opportunity to play," she said, "… but sadly if these same young women don't understand what their mothers or older sisters had to fight for, they run the risk of losing these opportunities for themselves and their daughters."
Hillsboro's librarians Karen Huskey and Doréan Dow chose the topic to coincide with the 35th anniversary of the legislation that prohibits discrimination based on gender in federally funded schools. The law led to the expansion of educational opportunities for women on a grand scale...
www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/education/story/668C111C3402CC4E8625738500110C5E?OpenDocument
I bet you won't find The Librarian recommending this book to young girls.
It's a shame that we didn't see young black players out there on those trucks at the Red
Sox parade yesterday wearing T-shirts that said, "Ask Me About Affirmative Action".
for all the JE lovers - he's way ahead!
Posted by Dawn on October 31, 2007 at 12:35 PM
Thank you, Dawn. But he's starting from way far behind and it's getting real late.
Dance by shooting at their feet.
Ok, fun it is, like shooting turkeys in a gallery. But we might get to use live ammo if we could drop corporate "persons" out of government and the news media.
It would take an ammendment to the constitution, or else some state kicking them out of politics that their fate might then be decided by the supreme court.
Posted by TomN on October 31, 2007 at 11:21 AM
Happy Birthday, TomN.
I bet you scared you mother real good till she took a look at your sweet baby face. What a neat day to have a birthday. All the candy and those games and it was all for you! Little did we know.
Sandy
I was disappointed in Hillary last night :-[ and you KNOW I'm trying to like her! But I was just as disappointed in the rest of the top tier too ....
Biden did a GREAT job! (imo) Too damn bad no one listens to him. (Bob u have a great candidate)
Same with Richardson and Kucinich AND Dodd!! This is some kind of BAD JOKE of a parallel universe where the TOP TIER should be the BOTTOM TIER!!
I just can't believe IOWANS, NH, etc., can't see it! sigh, well, I'll pull the D lever for sure but it's just NOT right we have some sterling candidates on the bottom row not getting much of a chance. Come ON AMERICA it CAN'T just be about money!!!
Posted by TomN on October 31, 2007 at 12:42 PM
Happy B day Scorpio!
I was totally embarraded by the behavior of Edwards and Obama last evening, put your energy on attackikng the GOP boys, not the democratic leader, as a former Edwards supporter, Mr. Edwards looks more and more like our next Republican candidate, also the wine is much better on the Biltmore Estate.
I may not be a good typist but I am a damn good democrat!
Hell
I think I'm just gonna vote for Dennis in the Primaries.
He's the one I'm closest to in ideas (apparently) the little Rascal. I'll just vote my conscience (unless someone convinces me otherwise before Jan.).
Crazy? maybe.
Posted by davesback on October 31, 2007 at 12:53 PM
LOL @ Biltmore
right on dave!
you may be right about Dennis, he's the only person to refer to the constitution and making laws which would improve our country and the standing we have in this world.... those other guys are good at blame each other rhetoric.
I don't know dave maybe I'm being GREEDY expecting perfection when you look at the alternatives........ I mean comparing ANY of the R's running - our group is like 24ct compared to something tin (eared) lol.
maybe I expect too much
Santiago this is for you Buddy!
Clinton is viewed favorably by 43 percent of all voters, while Obama is viewed favorably by 38 percent and Edwards by 30 percent. Significantly more Americans say they are undecided or don't know enough to have an opinion about Obama (37 percent) and Edwards (39 percent) than say the same about Clinton (16 percent).
When former Vice President Al Gore, who has not entered the race, is added as a choice for the Democratic nomination, he emerges as a serious contender. Gore garners support of 32 percent of Democratic primary voters, while Clinton gets 37 percent, Obama 16 percent, and Edwards 7 percent. Gore is viewed favorably by 46 percent of registered voters, his highest favorability rating since October, 2000.
Posted by Dawn on October 31, 2007 at 12:45 PM
Dawn,
I didn't watch the debate. It was billed as a smack down against Hillary, and I wasn't in the mood to watch that sort of thing. It's obvious that the men aren't going to let her walk away with the nomination without a fight.
I'm trying to like her, too. And I find that strange at this point. Makes you wonder what Independents are feeling. Well, I'll support whoever wins. There really isn't any alternative. I hope most voters are leaning in that direction.
But a lot can happen in 11 months. I look back at that period between the 2000 election night and the inaugration in January, 2001 and worry about how much can happen if people don't care.
Lunchtime. bbl.
LOL @ this headline!
Phone Home Kucinich: UFO Lobby Wants Hillary/Richardson Ticket
October 31, 2007 12:24 PM
If you're talking about when we lost Dr. Dean?\
The exception to that is we lost a really GOOD candidate (Howard) who was ahead at this time.
Hillary is not so sterling as Howard, imo.
But I guess I'm some crazy leftie! HA!
How the MSM controls the message:
Of course, Clear Channel hasn't publicly said they are boycotting Springsteen's music. But they are. Fox News, hardly a hotbed of liberal alarmists, reports that "Clear Channel has sent an edict to its classic rock stations not to play tracks from Magic... no new songs by Springsteen, even though it’s likely many radio listeners already own the album and would like to hear it mixed in with the junk offered on radio."
http://blog.radioleft.com/blog/_archives/2007/10/30/3323902.html
Now SHE would be a scary Halloween mask!
Longtime Bush Adviser Leaving State
ANNE GEARAN | October 31, 2007 01:17 PM EST | AP
WASHINGTON — Karen Hughes, who led efforts to improve the U.S. image abroad and was one of President Bush's last remaining advisers from the close circle of Texas aides, will leave the government at the end of the year.
Very Scary...
Oh, my God! Creeping Socialism!
It’s crawling up your very street!
Healthcare for our nation’s children?
The flames of Satan burn our feet!
posted by peaceman 31 Oct at 10:55A
No, if global warming was written in the Bible, most right wing evangelicals wouldn't pay any attention to it.
Anyone who is really familiar with the Bible and has heard, or better yet, argued with(you can't discuss with these people) a right wing evangelical can tell you they are cafeteria Christians who pick and choose little pieces of the Bible and take things out of context to come up with their own patched together brew of what ever's most convenient to them.
For instance that "Faith and not works" passage that thy use to convince themselves that as long as they have faith they don't need to do good works. Anyone who's read the whole epistle can tell you St. Paul was talking about getting following Jewish practices like circumsized, not taking care of the poor.
I had one blow me off, when I brought up the Sermon on the Mount, by saying, "Jesus was just talking to the Jews". !!!!????
A lot of those right wingers are just weird!
Posted by BlueinIdaho on October 31, 2007 at 01:33 PM
YIKES!
"everything is out to get us" LOL @ that bit of reality
lol yep I think I'll vote for Dennis
Kucinich Questions Bush's Mental Health
Edited on Tue Oct-30-07 03:51 PM by RamboLiberal
Source: Breitbart.com/AP
PHILADELPHIA (AP) - Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich questioned President Bush's mental health in light of comments he made about a nuclear Iran precipitating World War III.
"I seriously believe we have to start asking questions about his mental health," Kucinich, an Ohio congressman, said in an interview with The Philadelphia Inquirer's editorial board on Tuesday. "There's something wrong. He does not seem to understand his words have real impact."
Telling it like it is:
Some US diplomats angry over Iraq posts
By MATTHEW LEE, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - Several hundred U.S. diplomats vented anger and frustration Wednesday about the State Department's decision to force foreign service officers to take jobs in Iraq, with some likening it to a "potential death sentence."...
"Incoming is coming in every day, rockets are hitting the Green Zone," said Jack Crotty, a senior foreign service officer who once worked as a political adviser with NATO forces.
"It's one thing if someone believes in what's going on over there and volunteers, but it's another thing to send someone over there on a forced assignment," Crotty said. "I'm sorry, but basically that's a potential death sentence and you know it. Who will raise our children if we are dead or seriously wounded?"
"You know that at any other (country) in the world, the embassy would be closed at this point," Crotty said to loud and sustained applause from the about 300 diplomats who attended the meeting in a large State Department auditorium...
"I would just urge you, now that now we are looking at compulsory service in a war zone, that we have a moral imperative as an agency to take care of people who ... come back with war wounds," said Rachel Schnelling, a diplomat who served in Basra, Iraq and said the department had been unresponsive to requests for mental heath care.
"I asked for treatment and I didn't get any of it," she said in comments that were greeted with a standing ovation...
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071031/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_iraq_embassy
Is this what we would be hearing if our troops weren't muzzled by military protocol?
Frosty, if that mink-skinning operation isn't working out quite as well as you'd like, boy does Spunky has a new career path ready and waiting for you. It might not pay quite as well as Blackwell, but you'd always be in Condi's prayers.
Butte,
Hear, here!
Look, I don't mind what someone else chooses to stick in their head and try to live with. But when they try to force everyone else around them to be as miserable as they are, that's something else entirely. The very worst is when cynical politicians leverage insanity, encouraging and fanning the flames of it simply in order to gorge on the flowing money-tit that comes with cynicism and corruption.
Jesus had little tolerance for the Pharisee of his day, who were all-too quick to trumpet their piousness by condemning everyone else. Funny thing, though, it was "everyone else" that Jesus claimed. As for me, I'm happy to be part of "everyone else" and wish our modern-day Pharisee would just put a cork in it already. They've had their chance and look at the pitiful mess they've made.
and would like to hear it mixed in with the junk offered on radio."
Posted by BlueinIdaho on October 31, 2007 at 01:30 PM
Blue,
That's the truest thing ever said on Faux News.
Such is the totally rotten state of affairs of all things in this country.
Can't blame it all on Clear Channel, but they're working hard for those deaf and dumb folks in the propoganda office at the White House.
However, Spunky has probably illegally downloaded Springstein's latest off the internet tubes...and doesn't know he's the subject.
Posted by HillWilliam4Edwards08 on October 31, 2007 at 02:36 PM
2 thousand years of petty racists
MY how we've progressed.
HA! NOT!
Posted by Dawn on October 31, 2007 at 02:23 PM
Dawn,
Perhaps that's Bush's problem.
Under his administation, nobody can get adequate mental health coverage. I think I'd bypass any shock treatments administered by that GrimReaper character from Abu Graibe, too.
Ewwwwy THEY EAT THEIR OWN!!
Members of one Klan group plan to protest another in Cullman
"Jesus was just talking to the Jews". !!!!????
A lot of those right wingers are just weird!
Posted by Butte on October 31, 2007 at 01:36 PM
Butte,
lol, that takes the cake.
I've wondered about Bush's mental health for quite a while.
Per the Mayo Clinic web site:
"Antisocial personality disorder is a condition in which people show a pervasive disregard for the law and rights of others. People with antisocial personality disorder may tend to lie or steal and often fail to fulfill job or parenting responsibilities. The term "sociopath" and "psychopath" are sometimes used to describe a person with antisocial personality disorder.
Gives you something to think about, yes?
Katrina failure goes on tour:
The largest dam in Iraq is in serious danger of an imminent collapse that could unleash a trillion-gallon wave of water, possibly killing thousands of people and flooding two of the largest cities in the country, according to new assessments by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and other U.S. officials.
Even in a country gripped by daily bloodshed, the possibility of a catastrophic failure of the Mosul Dam has alarmed American officials, who have concluded that it could lead to as many as 500,000 civilian deaths by drowning Mosul under 65 feet of water and parts of Baghdad under 15 feet, said Abdulkhalik Thanoon Ayoub, the dam manager. “The Mosul dam is judged to have an unacceptable annual failure probability,” in the dry wording of an Army Corps of Engineers draft report.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/31/the-most-dangerous-dam-in-the-world/
Posted by Dawn on October 31, 2007 at 01:25 PM
Dawn,
Sorry, I'm not paying much attention today. A neighbor just came by with her two grandkids for early trick or treat. Talk about cute toddlers. One was dressed like a pumpkin and the other as a Teenage Ninja Turtle.
I complimented her on her envirionmenal statement.
No, I wasn't talking about Dr. Dean, but you make a good point.
I was talking about citizens not paying any attention to how the Busheviks stole the election. Most still haven't connected all the dots after all these years. The people do get the government they deserve. We have to be vigilante.
Most folks put more thought into what their Halloween costume should be than who would be the best president for all of the people.
Posted by BlueinIdaho on October 31, 2007 at 03:18 PM
Blue,
The truth be told...most of our dams aren't in much better shape. Nobody has looked at them since Bush took office....by order of the King of Catastrophes and his deregulation freaks.
Two years ago a major regional utility's dam broke and destroyed hundred of farms and a much cherished state park in my state. They still are trying to dodge responsibility and the Republican governor is letting them get away with it.
The "bureaucrats" had been warning for years that it was about to give way and would mean major damage. Luckily, only one family died.
Wednesday, October 31, 2007
Administration Oversight
White House Withholds Hundreds of Abramoff Documents
Chairman Waxman asks White House Counsel Fred Fielding to turn over more than 600 pages of documents relating to the activities of convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff that are being withheld because they involve internal White House deliberations.
oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1583
What national security issues was Abramoff involved in that would justify them withholding evidence? They're just trying to evading prosecution.
Apparently, in her last official act, Karen Hughes suggested launching a full-scale public relations assault based entirely on Cheney's Darth Vader persona. Haha. This was suppose to soften the blow of all that talk of war coming from the White House?
Why didn't they just peel off his mask and show just how ugly the face of WW III really is?
All those Confederate flags and nooses flying in the background and mained and deformed Iraqi children lying at his feet...the victim of shock and awe "public diplomacy?"
Right, Karen. All the MSM and the yokels back home will laugh. But we'll see who's laughing when gasoline goes back up to $3.50 after the first bunker buster hits in Iran. You get the feeling that the GOP is holding its collective breath.
Why else are so many of them not running for re-election?
Hey, thanks Sandy and Dawn,
Like said here a few days ago, there is something wrong with this early debating and fundraising: they are campaigning way too far before the election. There are some really excellent candidates but the system this cycle is wrecking the selection.
For the sake of wasting money and effort and time, the Democratic party selection should all be done in the last 6 months before the election. All the state primaries could be done in early June or so and all concerned, except perhaps MSM would benefit.
The debates and solicitations this far off disenfranchise voters who get bored and broke by the time the election at last rolls around. The candidates are hung out too long for bashing by opponents and the media. And they waste all the money and time doing it.
Too many Democratic voters are being turned-off by this ever-lengthening process. Two years of campaign is too long. Momentum is just rolled around to the benefit of the MSM coffers.
The US has ignored the previous 15 resolutions since 1992.
Felipe Perez Roque, the Cuban foreign minister, earned a round of applause from the assembly on Tuesday as he completed his case for the embargo to be lifted, saying that it was the main block to development of his country.
The resolution, titled Necessity of Ending the Economic, Commercial and Financial Embargo imposed by the United States of America against Cuba, was passed with 184 votes in favour, four against and one abstention.
The Coalition of the Willing and Our Global Friends.
Brahahahah....look at the list :)
Israel joined the US in voting against the resolution, as did Palau and the Marshall Islands. Micronesia abstained.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/AA4DCAE8-1717-487D-81EE-10F3FB1F3940.htm
Posted by SandyH on October 31, 2007 at 03:27 PM
Sad but true. Mine has been gone all afternoon with Grandma picking up pieces to go with her costume. She says she has 3 parties to go to so I'm giving out candy.
BBL if I can.
Peace and Happy Halloween everyone!
Drug firms try to bribe doctors with cars
• Developing world 'easy target' for multinationals
• Gifts and pampering now norm, says report
Sarah Boseley, health editor
Wednesday October 31, 2007
The Guardian
Multinational drug companies are targeting doctors in developing countries with dinners and lavish gifts, such as air conditioners, washing machines and down-payments on cars, as incentives to prescribe their drugs, a report reveals today.
The report from Consumers International (CI) says that self-regulation by the multinational drug giants has failed, citing drug adverts by companies such as Glaxo-SmithKline, Wyeth, Novartis and Pfizer that would be considered misleading in Europe, as well as the heavy promotion by all companies of products to doctors.
The impact on patients is serious, the report says. "Up to 50% of medicines in developing countries are inappropriately prescribed, dispensed or sold," it says...
www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,2201991,00.html
(Bold mine.)
I wonder if they are also sending in drug-pushing sluts who leave samples and tempt the doctors into compromising their ethics. Those "Ask Your Doctor" ads should be coming down the pike next?
Funny how free trade works in these banana republics. Why does it seem so familiar?
Sandy,
You wonder why Drugs in the US cost so much money?
Between courting Doctors with wonderful trips and gifts, and non-stop TV ads for their viagras, etc, it drives up the cost like crazy.
Then they try and tell us they can't charge us the same as they do for Canada pharmacies !
It is all nothing but more Corporate Greed!
Posted by TomN on October 31, 2007 at 04:01 PM
Tom, it's all too true.
I've got to get the chilli cooking. Probably will be too busy later to post. Have a fun and safe holiday, everyone.
Drugs cost so much because drug comapanies have to cover their liabilities when patients get strokes and heart attacks from their products.
Over 106,000 patients die every year from taking drugs as their doctor prescribed. It's more dangerous to go to the hospital than it is to march off to war in Iraq.
The pity of it is that most of those deaths could be prevented if the patient were only using MARIJUANA.
found this on my way out
CLOUT! Straw Poll
By Richard Greene on October 31, 2007 - 2:44pm
While the 8 Democratic candidates were debating last night we decided to take a straw poll. Even though CLOUT! is now live in NY City on WWRL 1600AM, the state's junior Senator, the leading candidate, did not fare well.
Not at all.
For 2 hours, from 8 - 10 pm Eastern, we took votes by phone and email. Here are the results:
KUCINICH: 40%
EDWARDS 33%
OBAMA 10%
CLINTON 6%
RICHARDSON 3%
(AL GORE) 3% (Not officially in poll. Many wanted him but we took their 2nd choice, if given)
(RON PAUL) 3% (Not officially in poll)
DODD 1%
BIDEN: 0%
GRAVEL: 0%
And, surprisingly, STEPHEN COLBERT . . . . 0%
Drugs cost so much because drug comapanies have to cover their liabilities when patients get strokes and heart attacks from their products.
I am sure they have Product Liability Insurance, Gro, just like any other manufacturer.
CNN announcing story coming up, about ANOTHER Republican caught in a Sex scandal, this one involving Blackmail!
Do you have to be a Sexual pervert to be a Republican, or does it just work out that way???
drugs cost so much because drug companies rake in the profits before their patents expire and the drugs are able to go generic.
Pam, the story CNN is refering to is most likely the same story I posted this morning about a small town Washington state politician.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6420AP_WA_Lawmaker_Extortion.html?source=mypi
Pam, they are just announcing that the republican washington state congressman caught in the latest gay hypocrisy is resigning.
Posted by PamB on October 31, 2007 at 04:46 PM
Just a theory, but it could be that the denial and self-loathing they feel probably causes them to feel victimized and powerless. This leads them to harbor a deep-seeded resentment towards their fellow citizens who, without the self-loathing and denial, are enjoying life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Once they join like-minded individuals in the GOP and gain some power, they can unleash this resentment upon others so that they experience some form of self-worth.
Just a theory...
And, surprisingly, STEPHEN COLBERT . . . . 0%
Posted by Dawn on October 31, 2007 at 04:33 PM
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Kucinich and Edwards - I am surprised Kucinich rated that highly. Go Edwards!!!
Bush Balks at Revised Child Health Bill
By David Espo and Charles Babington
The Associated Press
Wednesday 31 October 2007
Washington - President Bush told Republican lawmakers on Tuesday he will not agree to legislation expanding children's health insurance if it includes a tobacco tax increase, a decision that virtually ensures a renewed veto struggle with the Democratic-controlled Congress.
The president also suggested he would not be willing to sign other types of tax increases that Democrats have attached to major legislation, including an energy bill, according to numerous officials who attended a closed-door meeting at the White House.
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So basically except nothing from president Chimpy the putz. That means only one thing - give the damn Chimp nothing (except impeachment, he can have that).
Darn having another Bush day, so depressing, makes you want to give up on the American dream. So disgusted being label and Judged by the Corporate German South.
You used to be able to be a ghost writer in Alabama but with the Internet Bush can check use your Email and then check the IP address associated with it and then look at who the computer is licensed to and so when you post as Jon Doe writer you are then revealed David Young poet.
Why they even have embedded code in all your writing to trace your personal messages. The Bush White House can "At Will" without warrants search your computer anytime it wants and put their programs on it whenever they want without due process. Every time you hit a hot zone, even if you are not logged on, they can "At Will" enter to search your documents. With them "At Will" searches, without trace they can get your charges, then they have a computer that puts you in a place. There are so many illegals with credit cards that they know where most are at. Put your name in without reason, it tell you which bathroom you are using.
Why every rental car has a finger print that has 24/7 recordings. Put three different people in and they can be put together to see where all three show up. Why soon we will be embedded with a Bush chip at birth. I never been in a Bush open air prison before where you have a lifetime surveillance sentence. Yes, soon Bush can type a name in to see the last time they took a crap.
Our glorious Bush Corporations exporting our jobs overseas to workers treated like how America treated then in the 1930's in sweat shops, child labor, inhumane working conditions, hazardous conditions, and them like slave that are indentured to poverty of survival. Bush the 1930 Corporate Global Warming President.
Bush taking US back eighty years, back to the Railroad barons and the cowboy thugs. Back where everyone had a place on the railroad tracks to be run over with with dirty politics.
It's good to get Krugman, Rich, etc... for free now. Krugman whacks the GOP punks - especially the lead punk - Rudy Ghouliani:
Fearing Fear Itself
By Paul Krugman
The New York Times
Monday 29 October 2007
In America's darkest hour, Franklin Delano Roosevelt urged the nation not to succumb to "nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror." But that was then.
Today, many of the men who hope to be the next president - including all of the candidates with a significant chance of receiving the Republican nomination - have made unreasoning, unjustified terror the centerpiece of their campaigns.
Consider, for a moment, the implications of the fact that Rudy Giuliani is taking foreign policy advice from Norman Podhoretz, who wants us to start bombing Iran "as soon as it is logistically possible."
Kristen, I was through in the kitchen by the time the story came on, but you must be right.
BlueofIdaho's theory may be correct. Also, If only the Republicans did not have to cater to the Religious Right, and hide their sexual preferences, maybe they would not end up committing perverted acts.
Lieberman backs Hillary, trashes Edwards Hotlist
by kos
Wed Oct 31, 2007 at 01:55:00 PM PDT
I'm not sure this is the sort of support Hillary wants right now...
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/10/31/164541/59
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All I'll say is this. It's my hope that both Prez Chimpy and Sen Lieberloser SHUT THEIR STUPID YAPS UP. No one wants to hear from either of them.
Address by Rocky Anderson - Take Back Responsibility for Our Nation Hotlist
by Patrick Thronson [Subscribe]
Wed Oct 31, 2007 at 02:26:12 PM PDT
Below is a speech delivered by Mayor Rocky Anderson in Salt Lake City on October 27, as part of the National Mobilization to End the War in Iraq. Together, we must take responsibility to become informed and get involved, and refuse to support candidates who have voted to fund the atrocities in Iraq, or who will not commit to a complete withdrawal of US troops from Iraq as soon as possible.
* Patrick Thronson's diary :: ::
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Address by Mayor Ross C. "Rocky" Anderson
October 27, 2007
City & County Building
Salt Lake City, Utah
Today, as we come together once again in this great city, we raise our voices in unison to say to President Bush, to Vice President Cheney, to other members of the Bush Administration (past and present), to a majority of Congress, including Utah’s entire congressional delegation, and to much of the mainstream media: "You have failed us miserably and we won’t take it any more."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/31/171557/23
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I like this guy. He is kicking some behind.
here's the story, Kristen was right.
OLYMPIA, Wash. -- A Republican state legislator who repeatedly voted against gay rights measures resigned his seat Wednesday amid revelations he had sex with a man he met at an erotic video store while in Spokane on a GOP retreat.
In a written statement, Rep. Richard Curtis, of La Center, said that while he believes he's done a lot of good during his time in the Legislature, "events that have recently come to light have hurt a lot of people."
"I sincerely apologize for any pain my actions may have caused," he wrote. "This has been damaging to my family, and I don't want to subject them to any additional pain that might result from carrying out this matter under the scrutiny that comes with holding public office."
Three days earlier, Curtis had insisted to his local newspaper that he was not gay and that sex was not involved in what he said was an extortion attempt by a man last week.
But in police reports, Curtis said he was being extorted by a man he had sex with in a Spokane hotel room. The other man contends Curtis reneged on a promise to pay $1,000 for sex.
House Minority Leader Richard DeBolt, R-Chehalis, said that as more "troubling" details began to emerge "it has become clear that he can no longer effectively represent the constituents who elected him."
His resignation was delivered to Gov. Chris
Good evening, all.
Just stopping by with an article that fits the Halloween theme...torture. The good Sister Joan has the last say for me on this subject, and she has a unique perspective.
The American inquisition?
Posted on Oct 19, 2007
From Where I Stand by Joan Chittister, OSB
...For those with enough conscience left to question the project, however, maybe it wouldn't hurt to look instead at another news story from Oct. 13, 2007.
This story (Vatican to tell true knights' tale) records that the Vatican has just recently published secret documents about the inquisition and heresy trial of the Knights Templar in 1307. Pope Clement V, it seems, initially absolved the medieval religious order of heresy. But under pressure from King Philip IV of France, who saw the wealth of the Knights as a threat to his kingdom, Clement suppressed the order. Then Philip used the accusations to arrest the leaders of the order and extract, under torture, confessions of heresy that justified Philip's seizing of their property.
Now what's to regret? It was a good cause, after all. No doubt King Philip was "saving the church" as well as "saving his country." Just as we are. The confessions he got under torture, unfortunately, belied the findings of the trial. But they did, conveniently, even if wrong, give the king a way to seize the riches of the order.
I'm sure the Vatican was sorry about it all.
But therein lies the lesson: Material gained under torture is simply not credible, a conclusion reached by Eyemeric, the Grand Inquisitor of Aragon himself in 1357, who said, information gained under torture "is deceptive and ineffectual."
Which means that the torturer isn't credible either. Or, to put it another way, how can we ever hope to stop the school shootings and gang warfare we abhor while we're doing it ourselves? How do we tell our children that their violence is bad but our violence is good?
From where I stand, torture is too unreliable an item to build the morality, the credibility, the integrity of a church -- or a nation -- on it. After all, we can't have it both ways. Either the Inquisition was good -- or it wasn't.
ncrcafe.org/node/1385
Pam this latest story is a doozy...he supposedly dressed up in women's underwear in the "adult" shop and started his sexual liason there at the store according to witnesses in the store. At first he denied the allegations but then told police it was true...only to take a page out of Craig's playbook and publically deny he ever admitted to it.
Dems Make GOP Look Good
But...
Papers? I Don’t See Any Papers.
Looks like Obama and Edwards were on to something.
Fake teeth recalled for too much lead
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Damn does it get any worse with Bush inspections that he puts America "At Risk" for his "At Will" Presidency. Lead in fake teeth for Halloween, well that is a real fright event of the White House failure to protect US. Your 1930's Corporations are bringing in defective productions, sweat shop children built clothes, worker slave bought for production lines, and selling things to our kids to created heath problems with them. Bush have you no shame, what are you doing to America? What kind of religion are you selling America, when I pray to my God of heart for Him to protect US from the White House. George VII you are such a sad protector to our children.
Isn't it funny how the very things that cause Repugs to slam Dems causes others to praise them? Who in their right mind would think Speaker Pelosi was not doing her job if she was collecting votes for impeachment (which I don't believe that she's doing)? Still, the goblins of the GOP are mostly sweets to me.
CBS News reported Monday that a chemistry professor at Ohio's Ashland University tipped off the agency about the joke teeth after testing a variety of Halloween-themed items for lead content. Paint on the teeth contained 100 times the allowable level of lead, according to the broadcast report.
Millions of Chinese-made toys have been recalled in recent months. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., this week urged the commission's head, Nancy Nord, to resign. Pelosi said Nord has failed to see the gravity of the situation and continues to oppose legislation that would double her agency's dollars and give it more authority.
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She needs to resign ASAP. What kind of Bush consumer agency creates havoc with children. Clinton stay quite. Obama, Edwards, and the real Democrats put on your armor it is time the battle the Royals!
Ever wonder what makes your cat tick?
Scientists decode most of Mo. cat's DNA
By MALCOLM RITTER, AP Science Writer
NEW YORK - An Abyssinian cat from Missouri, named Cinnamon, has just made scientific history. Researchers have largely decoded her DNA, a step that may aid the search for treatments for both feline and human diseases.
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The report adds cats to the roughly two dozen mammals whose DNA has been unraveled, a list that includes dogs, chimps, rats, mice, cows and of course, people.
Why add cats? They get more than 200 diseases that resemble human illnesses, and knowing the details of their genetic makeup should help in the search for vaccines and treatments, researchers say. The list includes a cat version of AIDS, SARS, diabetes, retinal disease and spina bifida, said Stephen J. O'Brien of the National Cancer Institute.
The new work is reported in the November issue of the journal Genome Research by a team including O'Brien and colleague Joan Pontius. It covers about two-thirds of the DNA of Cinnamon, a research cat that lives at the University of Missouri in Columbia; more complete results are expected next year, O'Brien said...
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071031/ap_on_sc/cat_dna;_ylt=AjY5ZasO4PsUCANmUv5KgdOs0NUE
It's a shame the cat is out of the bag so to speak. The fundies in my state will go after these researchers and their funding for certain. "We'll get you my pretties and your cute little kitty, too. We're not clonning around either."
Sad but true. Scientists are making so many strides in helping to detect the root causes of diseases and there are forces that are fighting them every step of the way in this country.
too funny, rj. Hillary wrote out a check for 5 grand for Lamont the morning after he became the Democratic Candidate. Lieberman got NADA.
He must need something if he is trying to make people think his support is worth shit !
Good afternoon, all. For those of you that take prescribed medication.
Government inspectors visit the foreign companies that make more and more of the drugs used in the United States just once every eight to 12 years on average, according to congressional investigators.
That's far less oversight than domestic producers face.
Prescription drugs and drug ingredients pour into the United States from an estimated 3,000 foreign companies, though the real number is unknown and could be as high as 6,700, the inspectors said in a memo to members of the House Energy and Commerce subcommittee on oversight and investigations The memo was released Wednesday.
Maybe "We the people" need to build a Lead Toy Mountain in front of the White House let US have a toy Mattel parade in front of it dropping up lead presents in front of it. Hail Mattel the Corporate Toy King apologizing to the Red Chinese, while playing Bush to the American citizens. Hey yes, "We the people" need to impeach the Corporate Royal Mattel CEO's.
WANT A REALLY SCARY MASK TO GREET THE KIDS AT THE DOOR WITH TONIGHT, OR MAYBE YOU ARE TAKING THE KIDDIES AROUND. EWWWW, BE SCARY ANN COULTER AND TIE AN ORANGE AROUND YOUR NECK UNDER THE MASK FOR HER ADAM'S APPLE. OR BE LIMBAUGH AND PUT A BIG LUMP ON YOUR REAR FOR HIS ANAL CYST !!! HAHAHA
Frankenstein? Eh. Werewolves? Whatever. If you really want to terrify your friends and family, dress up as a scary right-winger this Halloween.
After all, there are few things more frightening than right-wingers’ radical agenda to
pack our courts with judges who’ll tromp on our civil rights and reproductive freedom,
tear down the wall of separation between church and state, and
enshrine discrimination in the Constitution with amendments like a marriage ban for gay couples.
Choose from one of five right-winger masks: download and print out Pat Robertson, James Dobson, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, or Ann Coulter. For each you'll find some scary quotes to serve as talking points for when you're in character. And check out our suggestions for other elements you can include in your costume.
Check out all the (horrifying!) costumes now!
http://www.pfaw.org/go/RightWingCostumeKit
And remember, although the masks are silly, our work to expose the truly scary beliefs these people express -- and their real connections to people in power -- is deadly serious.
Have fun with these and have a Happy Halloween!
-- Your Allies at People For the American Way
Well Republicans are definitely showing their true colors...I'm not sure how they can dispute Darwin's theory consider that with our children they seem to believe in survival of the richest.
They have bombarded the market with lead filled toys right before the holidays (I wonder if this is part of their plan for this years war against Christmas), and then refuse to support a health program that would treat these children once they have lead poisoning.
dlesterpoet, I used to go to these warehouse food stores that sold discounted off-brands but I don't dare do it anymore. Who knows what may be lurking under those imported labels? Indeed, even lunking under domestic labels? Where once I felt confident that any food stuff sold in the USA was safe to eat, I now know better. How far we have fallen! So I look for the Product of USA label, and I'm not completely confident about that. If it's discounted, pass it by. If you can't afford full-price food, well...eat less?
My theory is that the whole problem with food product safety began when organics were offered in supermarkets at higher prices. The idea of it was offensive to me then because I knew that poor people would have to opt for lower-priced foods in order to feed their families; they were forced to choose between healthy and survival modes. It is offensive in a country of equals to know that some merit health and not others. It's anti-American.
Pam this latest story is a doozy...he supposedly dressed up in women's underwear in the "adult" shop and started his sexual liason there at the store according to witnesses in the store. At first he denied the allegations but then told police it was true...only to take a page out of Craig's playbook and publically deny he ever admitted to it.
Posted by Kristen on October 31, 2007 at 05:43 PM
wow, the hidden urges these poor sexually thwarted Republicans have! Betcha his wife and kids are SOOOOOO proud.
too funny, rj. Hillary wrote out a check for 5 grand for Lamont the morning after he became the Democratic Candidate. Lieberman got NADA.
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PamB, I didn't know that. Lieberloser is an idiot. He should do himself a favor and shut up.
I think Tweety is going to choke on all the foam coming from his mouth today. He drew blood last night; and like the vampire that he is, he wants more.
Well, things are looking up for the MSM whores. They finally got the Democratic candidates to deferentiate their positions. The issues are now becoming clear instead of just being given lip service.
The war, immigration, and health care deserve a true debate. So let's see who is willing to stand up for the American people and who wants to play it safe?
I look forward to seeing more open debate on subjects like civil liberties, race relations, and illegal hiring.
later
I think the worst prison a poet could face is a Bush prison, where the abuse last a lifetime of his images waterboard America every day and you have to giving up on life. Only in a miracle can one terminated scream so loud to survive, asking God for a vacation, hopping Hillary will stay out of sight.
{{{Mary}}}
That article on Dems making GOP look good, is merely this one obviously Right winger's opinion piece on RealClearPolitics.
His views on WHY people voted for Dems in 2006 are all wrong. Notice he did not mention the 2nd biggest reason cited after the elections, i.e. Republican Corruption. He is way off base.
Lead in fake teeth for Halloween, well that is a real fright event of the White House failure to protect US.
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There's reports that many Halloween sundries (even items like "goody buckets") have way too lead paint on it. So, what else is new ... China has found yet another way to poison everyone with their junk. Meanwhile, Chimpy opposes increasing funding for the consumer protection agency. What else is new ... Chimpy only wants to spend money on his Iraq disaster while he bleeds America dry.
Ya think after 17 innocent deaths, this might be a little too late?
(Best Syndication) After months of scrutiny, the Defense Department announced that all of the State Department convoys in Iraq will be under military oversight. In a meeting at the Pentagon Tuesday, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Robert Gates discussed proposals concerning control and coordination of private contractors in Iraq.
The two secretaries agreed that the military should oversee and coordinate the convoys, but the oversight is expected to be much broader incompassing other operations conducted by private contractors. The Department of Defense has been at odds with the State Department since an alleged shooting killed 17 Iraqis.
http://www.bestsyndication.com/?q=103007_dod_secretary_of_state_private_contractors_in_iraq.htm
Obama, Edwards, and the real Democrats put on your armor it is time the battle the Royals!
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dlezter, it's time to make a stand. Chimpy gets nothing anymore. Money for Iraq ... no!!! New powers ... no !!! Consideration for his lame brain ideas on health care ... no !!!
We'll have to live with getting nothing from Chimpy and the GOP. Make a case in 2008 that they are nothing but obstructionists.
I will give Chimpy one thing though ... impeachment.
(I wonder if this is part of their plan for this years war against Christmas),
I hadn't thought of that, Kristen. It's just the sort of thing Robertson and Dobson would delight in doing.
However, the multinationals and other GOP Scrooges must be having fits worrying how it's going to affect their Xmas profit margins. No wonder the Fed is lowering interest rates again. They have to do something to stop the havak this administration's incompetence has wrought.
The Chinese must wonder how they got caught up in all this Western cultural conflict.
for you, Mary. CA Dems not fond of pelosi.
Voters' views of Pelosi, Congress have dimmed
By John Hill
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's own party is turning on her, apparently because of a perception among California Democrats that she has not done enough to shake up the status quo in Washington, D.C., according to a Field Poll released Friday.
Congress overall is doing even worse with California voters, with an approval rating sagging to 30 percent or below for only the seventh time in the past 15 years, the poll of 1,201 registered voters found. Both Pelosi, the San Francisco Democrat who became speaker this year, and Congress as a whole have fallen short of voter expectations since taking over both houses, poll director Mark DiCamillo said.
"I think the reason for her decline and the low ratings Congress is getting is that voters here are not seeing any change," DiCamillo said.
Church ordered to pay $11.9 million for funeral protest
BALTIMORE, Maryland (AP) -- A grieving father won a nearly $11 million verdict Wednesday against a fundamentalist Kansas church that pickets military funerals in the belief that the war in Iraq is a punishment for the nation's tolerance of homosexuality.
Albert Snyder of York, Pennsylvania., sued the Westboro Baptist Church for unspecified damages after members demonstrated at the March 2006 funeral of his son, Lance Cpl. Matthew Snyder, who was killed in Iraq.
The jury first awarded $2.9 million in compensatory damages. It returned later in the afternoon with its decision to award $6 million in punitive damages for invasion of privacy and $2 million for causing emotional distress.
Kristen, Watched that story on CNN tonight, about those Fundalmentalist Funeral wreckers.
What a bunch of sick F***ers these people are.
Then we wonder why Republicans stay in the closet and implode in perverted actions. Homophobic sick people like this group.
I should pay more tax, says US billionaire Warren Buffett
The United States' second-richest man has delivered a blunt message to the Bush administration: he wants to pay more tax.
Warren Buffett, the famous investor known as the "Sage of Omaha", has complained that he pays a lower rate of tax than any of his staff - including his receptionist. Mr Buffett, who is worth an estimated $52bn (£25bn), said: "The taxation system has tilted towards the rich and away from the middle class in the last 10 years. It's dramatic; I don't think it's appreciated and I think it should be addressed."
Countdown’s Worst Person In The World: Fascist Fraidy Cats Edition
On Tuesday’s show, Keith awarded the bronze to head of the Consumer Products Safety Commission, Nancy Nord, for being afraid to do her job, refusing money to actually expand her department and get this….protect consumers. The silver goes to neo-con elder statesman (and Giuliani war/fear-mongering consultant) Norman Podhoretz for being so fearful of his own inadequacies that he lashes out at anyone who thinks an aggressive military stance against a sovereign nation over a trumped up threat not based on reality is a bad idea.
Former egomaniac Bush speechwriter Gerson admits the gov’t budget can fund Liberal ideas!
It’s typical of a Bushie to now try and hijack the Democratic platform to save the GOP from disaster. Of course the Grover Norquists will freak out if they watch this clip. Listen to the ex-Bushie screech-writer Michael Gerson and you’ll see what I mean.
Stewart: Here’s what it sounds like to me. What you’re describing is the Democratic Party. Those seem like platforms for the Democratic Party. How does a fiscal conservative pay for that?
Gerson: The fact of the matter is we’ve got plenty of money in the budget.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/31/tds-former-bush-egomaniac-speechwriter-admits-the-govt-budget-can-fund-liberal-ideas/
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Bunch of lying GOP Bush Chimps.
No wonder the Fed is lowering interest rates again. They have to do something to stop the havak this administration's incompetence has wrought.
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Sandy, yeah but the rate cutting party is over for awhile. I read Bernanke testimony. The risks of slower growth are now evenly balanced with the risks of inflation. That means in Fed Speak ... no more cuts for this year.
There is a new PB Open Thread.
For those going out with the kiddos have a safe and fun Halloween!
these numbers all make me shudder. When do you think the Republicans will call uncle? Or will they let this go on forever if they have to?
Number Of Iraqis Slaughtered Since The U.S. Invaded Iraq 1,099,372
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html
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Number of U.S. Military Personnel Sacrificed (Officially acknowledged) In America'sWar On Iraq 3,842
http://icasualties.org/oif/
The War in Iraq Costs
$464,371,354,005
See the cost in your community
http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182
Kaj Larsen
A Lesson For Mukasey: Why I Had Myself Water-Boarded
As a journalist for Current TV, a former military officer, and a student of public policy I have been involved in the debate about the War on Terror from the frontlines in Afghanistan to the policy discussions of academia. In the spring of 2006 a battle was brewing between the Bush Administration and some influential members of Congress over the use coercive interrogation techniques. The conflict over what techniques were legally and morally permissible had been a subtext of the War on Terror for years, but for the most part the debate was occurring inside of the intelligence community, the human rights community, and in small legal circles. It was outside the purview of the American public.
By April of 2006 the debate about coercive interrogation and its most controversial technique, water-boarding, had started to spill into the headlines. I was in graduate school at the time. As I watched the debate unfold, and listened to both pundits and policymakers give their opinion on whether this technique constituted torture, I was struck by the strangeness of the debate. All of these people were lobbying opinions about a subject they had never seen or witnessed, and that struck me as problematic in a healthy democracy. See, in full disclosure I had a unique knowledge of water-boarding. I had the technique performed on me during my time in the service as part of my SERE training (Survival Evasion Resistance Escape). I, like all Special Forces operatives who deploy overseas, was sent to a training camp where we learned to resist interrogation and survive captivity, god forbid that ever happened to us overseas. Ironically, one of the many techniques we learned during this training was to assert our rights as told under Article III of the Geneva Convention. So, because I was familiar with water-boarding, I was intrigued by this national conversation that was going on about this thing that few people really understood. But, like many Americans, the pre-occupations of everyday life, for me the pressure of mid-terms and exams, pushed the controversy to the back of my mind.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kaj-larson/a-lesson-for-mukasey-why_b_70651.html
Bush says he gives US U.S. pharmaceuticals supposed guaranteed by the U.S. Government's FDA. Yea right, what kind of guarantee is this in a Bush White House, where Bush Corporations can secretly go to Red China and put in their ingredients in without any warning labels. I think we may be safer with Canadian bought prescriptions, the Canadian Government has better aaccountability and they are a lot cheaper.
A Bush promise has a lead weight with it, designed as a Chinese Mattel puppet toy. This Bush doll, is being sold to our kids "At Will" of huge profits in 1930 standards when Cooperations where Royal Kingdoms with White House support, without unions and a Congress of concrete accounting. Back then they poisoned the land "At Will", where our kids drank from rivers catching fire. Well now the Chinese will bear American Corporations birth defects, while they sell US defective products to our infants, who will suffer a lifetime of Bush's leaded abuse, because of his failure to hold Corporate America accountable to God and the world.
Bush is a Mattel President that acts like The Gap CEO saying kids do not need schools, they need 80 hour jobs.
What do you have with a Bush CEO, the 1930's of the depressions where all workers are slaves that need banned their Freedom and Democracy upon worker homes denied the Constitution.
Okay Hillary keep quite now, show US your lack of leadership to protect US and our children, let Bush and his 1930 policies take US back in time, while you sit on your ass not doing your homework again. If you cannot work for US now in our hour of need, then how can we ever trust you WITH OUR FUTURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How can unions support Clinton's do nothing policies where we are exporting misery? Hillary take the lead out of your hinny, it is time to be a politician.
HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON: Not Bucking Bi-partisanship in Leading the War against Terrorism, Bucking the Media Instead
Senator Clinton expressed the concerns of law enforcement with illegal aliens not having any picture identification when asked why she went along with the Republican Governor of New York’s suggestion to give illegal aliens driver’s licenses. Unfortunately both the liberal and conservative media were not smart enough to appreciate both parties leaders and the American publics ambivalent thoughts on the illegal immigration issue when covering the last debate.
(When an illegal alien gets arrested in New York, why not just let MSNBC's Chris Matthews take the person away with his brains figuring out who the person is and what his legal name is instead of giving the person any picture I.D.?)
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