Morning again, Dems.

I often wonder, why do Republicans hate America, the Constitution, and patriotism so much?

They will stand back and watch it destroyed without a word. They will DEFEND this administration and Republican party, while all the time KNOWING what they did to our country. They KNOW lies were told, yet they do not care.
They are complicit in the destruction of America, the beautiful. It is their fault we are where we are.

heading out to store. bbl, Dems.

I'm tired of talking about the criminal corruption of the Bush Administration and the Republican Party. They disgust me!....Later....

There's still time ti impeach the Chimpenfuhrer and Shotgun Dick for the good of America.

God Bless America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm tired of talking about the criminal corruption of the Bush Administration and the Republican Party.
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goodfie, it's conservatism - a rotten, greedy, un-American philosophy that favors fat cat rich elitists and uses the feeble minded by stirring up fake displays of patriotism, religious fervor and racial hatred. Conservatism is finished.

McCain on Mitt: He's in a tailspin. Mitt fights back with ads trashing McCain.
by Joe Sudbay (DC) · 12/28/2007 08:52:00 AM ET · Link
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The GOP campaign is getting really ugly in NH. Mitt Romney, clearly in some kind of panic mode, has been lashing out at all of them. Earlier this week, the Mittster was in New Hampshire trashing John McCain over taxes and immigration (because Mitt's so pure, you know).

McCain's response was pretty funny and pretty bitchy:

"I know something about tailspins, and it's pretty clear Mitt Romney is in one," McCain said in the statement. "It's disappointing that he would launch desperate, flailing, and false attacks in an attempt to maintain relevance. As the Union Leader said today, New Hampshire voters just aren't buying his act, and these latest attacks won't help him."

Mitt's one of those guys who always got what he wanted. And, he wants to be President now and can't believe lowlifes like McCain and Huckabee are getting in his way. He's fighting back against McCain with a new negative ad:

Mitt Romney takes GOP presidential rival John McCain to task on taxes and immigration in a new advertising push in New Hampshire as he seeks to fend off the Arizona senator's challenge.

"John McCain, an honorable man. But is he the right Republican for the future?" an announcer asks in the ad that starts airing Friday in New Hampshire, which holds the nation's first presidential primary on Jan. 8. "McCain opposes repeal of the death tax. And voted against the Bush tax cuts - twice. McCain pushed to let every illegal immigrant stay here permanently. Even voted to allow illegals to collect Social Security."

Go Mitt. And, back to you Senator McCain.
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GOP-PERS .... blah, blah, blah ....

Isn't amazing how these POS conservatives are so on fire to eliminate the "death tax" (estate tax by any other name). This is a tax that effects less than 1% of the wealthiest people in the nation. This proves what complete idiots their supporters are.

Oh this one is too funny:

Giuliani Campaign Official: Rudy Is The Only Candidate Who Can Chase “The Muslims”…”Back Into Their Caves”

Winning hearts and minds the world over…

John Deady, Co-Chair for New Hampshire’s Veterans for Rudy:

…(Rudy Giuliani has) the knowledge and judgment to attack one of the most difficult problems in current history. And that is the rise of the Muslims. And make no mistake about it, this hasn’t happened for a thousand years. These people are very, very dedicated. They’re also very smart, in their own way. And we need to keep the feet to the fire and keep pressing these people ‘til we defeat them or chase them back to their caves, or in other words, get rid of them.

Gosh, I can’t imagine why they’d feel offended by that. The Guardian offers a longer video that shows that all of Rudy’s fans in their frightened and/or bigoted glory. What a wonderful face of America to show the rest of the world.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/12/28/giuliani-campaign-official-rudy-is-the-only-candidate-who-can-chase-the-muslimsback-into-their-caves/
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So, how is the dumbass Ghoul going to do that? Take out his Yankees bat ... oops, I forgot he's a Red Sox fan now.

What a loser!

Later ...

posted by rjsnj on 28 Dec 07 at 09:33A
Yeah, what he said!
IMPEACH BUSH/CHENEY!!!

Good morning, all.

gregg posted this AP article last night about far right "prosperity" Christian churches. The way things are going with the Republican economy they can soon be called far right "recession" Christian churches.

funny shit from the christian right wing...prosperity churches...and amalgam of snake oil, ayn randism and "how much do you believism"...

(AP) -- The message flickered into Cindy Fleenor's living room each night: Be faithful in how you live and how you give, the television preachers said, and God will shower you with material riches...

...Yet the prosperity gospel continues to draw crowds, particularly lower- and middle-income people who, critics say, have the greatest motivation and the most to lose. The prosperity message is spreading to black churches, attracting elderly people with disposable incomes, and reaching huge churches in Africa and other developing parts of the world...

Posted by gregg on December 27, 2007 at 10:54 PM

It is the perfect marriage...conservative politics and organized crime preying on the weak. No wonder the GOP says they are so into the sanctity of marriage.

Greed has no bounds or has no shame.

Gotta run. later.

Good morning fellow democrats!

The Ghoul is finished.

Go away mcturd

McCain staggers around like a 71 year old man visiting a "Gentlemen's Club" for the first time.

Mitt has more positions than the busiest call girl on Canal Street.

good analogy Alamo! ;-)

Uncovered: Musharraf's police abandoned posts before shooting; Can't explain why no autopsy done: Developing...

Huckabee is a smooth talking regious flim flam artist and con man

Sen. Leahy says wiretapping bill is a top priority
Updated at 10:01 AM
Source: Vermont Public Radio

Senator Patrick Leahy says one of his top priorities in the coming weeks is the passage of a bill that requires the Bush Administration to obtain court approval before putting new electronic wiretapping programs in place.

Leahy is also opposed to plans to provide telephone companies with retroactive immunity for their participation in surveillance activities between 2001 and 2006.
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Leahy says he's concerned that the Bush Administration conducted thousands of illegal searches of private telephone calls between 2001 and late 2006 as part of an anti terrorist program.

...

(Leahy) "I think there has been so much focus on what the telephone companies did that people have ignored the fact that many in the White House, former Attorney General Gonzales and others Dick Cheney and those in his office put together this plan to operate outside the law and I don't think we should pass legislation that allows them to escape liability and allows them to escape any responsibility for breaking the law."

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HERE! HERE! Sen. Leahy!! Bravo!

The Republicans don't have much to choose from.

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Friday, December 28, 2007

~snip~

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Mike Huckabee slipping to second place with his lowest level of support since early December. In the race for the Republican Presidential Nomination, it’s Rudy Giuliani on top at 19%, Huckabee in second at 17% and John McCain within four points of the lead at 15%. Mitt Romney remains at 13% nationally and Fred Thompson is at 12% (see recent daily numbers). Ron Paul currently attracts 7% of Likely Republican Primary voters nationwide.

Immigration has emerged as the top issue in the Republican race. A commentary by Froma Harrop raises the question “What would happen if the United States seriously enforced the ban on hiring undocumented workers?” She suggests that “We may find out starting Jan. 1, when Arizona promises to do it locally.”

In the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination, it’s Hillary Clinton 40%, Barack Obama 23% and John Edwards 15%. Bill Richardson is supported by 3% of Likely Democratic Primary Voters and nobody else tops 2% nationally (see recent daily numbers).

Harpo, I am a cow girl and rancher from west Texas. That last remark makes me think you are a hugh, fresh, stinking cow chip!

CNN's latest Iowa Poll

Clinton
34%
Edwards
20%
Obama
19%
Biden
8%
Richardson
5%
Dodd
2%
Kucinich
2%
Unsure
10%

NEW HAMPSHIRE

Obama
30%
Clinton
28%
Edwards
14%
Richardson
7%
Kucinich
4%
Biden
3%
Other
1%
No opinion
12%

SOUTH CAROLINA

Obama
35%
Clinton
34%
Edwards
13%
Biden
1%
Kucinich
1%
Richardson
1%
Unsure
15%

Nevada

Clinton
34%
Obama
26%
Edwards
9%
Richardson
7%
Biden
4%
Kucinich
2%
Unsure
18%

and FLORIDA

Clinton
43%
Obama
21%
Edwards
19%
Biden
3%
Dodd
2%
Richardson
2%
Kucinich
1%
Unsure
9%

I have to go to work now. Got some cattle to move.

Some more interesting state polls from Real Clear Politics.

And on that note - off to Brunch for me.

Peace Fine Democrats!!!

Good MorningLady Dawn,
Thanks for the Polls. I can't understand New Hampshire though. Well, I sure it's just going up for Clinton.
Axelrod is still putting out that her vote killed Ms.Bhutto. Obama said it today. There were other senators that voted that same way, but its Clinton vote that killed her.
They sure play dirty politics. I thought the campaign was going to back away from that statement, but apparently not.

Can someone give me an answer to this question: Why is it that conservatives call liberals "terrorists" when most of the world's terrorizing is done by conservatives?

I've been reading the book "The End of America" by Virginia Wolf, and I believe that every person who is dedicated to improving (and saving) America should read this book. It's scary how this administration has us living in fear. We are being terrorized by the very people that are supposed to protect us and we need to come together to stop the madness!

http://www.serveoutloud.blogspot.com
Check out my blog...it's new, but I know you'll enjoy it.

I really do not understand the hatred here. Both parties are only interested in getting re-elected and could care less about us. They give each other our money so they can get re-elected (ear marks). Jim Wright left disgraced as did Tom Delay. Both parties are the problem and cannot be trusted. To be high and mighty about either of these parties is just dumb. Peace!!

dieharddemocrat, if that's your position, you may want to rethink your name.

Can someone give me an answer to this question: Why is it that conservatives call liberals "terrorists" when most of the world's terrorizing is done by conservatives?
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Easy. They are pathological liars. They need to twist everything around to divert attention from themselves. Conservatives today are nothing but fascists.

The "Whole Mystery" of Bhutto Assassination Solved Hotlist
by BarbinMD
Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 09:17:35 AM PST

Barely 24 hours after the assassination of Benazir Bhutto, the government of Pervez Musharraf has declared that:

...investigators had resolved the "whole mystery" behind the opposition leader's killing and would give details at press conference later Friday.

With "irrefutable evidence" that al-Qaida and the Taliban were behind the attack, it seems that there will be no need for the thorough investigation that the White House was calling for yesterday:

MR. STANZEL: I think it's -- from our perspective, it's important to have a review of this and to look into the matter, and I think it's important to the long-term prospects of democracy in Pakistan that there be an open review of this matter. And I think that that is something that is necessary. [...]

Q Does the administration trust the Pakistani government to investigate properly whether the government, itself, or any elements within it were involved in this attack?

MR. STANZEL: Well, that's sort of the answer that I provided to Steven. I think it's important to have a thorough investigation of that. We expect that that will happen and, like I said I said to Steven, I think we're willing to work with our allies in Pakistan to make sure that does happen.

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As I said a couple of days ago, I doubt we will ever know the truth. Mush will rush to cover it up and not allow an open investigation. He also controls the media in Pakistan. Let's face Mush is just another petty dictator.

Easy. They are pathological liars. They need to twist everything around to divert attention from themselves. Conservatives today are nothing but fascists.
Posted by rjsnj on December 28, 2007 at 12:32 PM

I get a kick out of them, rj, when they say all we do is complain and bitch! REMEMBER Clinton era? Remember there was not one good thing out of a Republican pie hole, despite the great economy, their 401K statements growing like crazy, they could buy houses, the world was closest to peace it ever had been, etc.

Yet all we heard for those 8 years was bitching, moaning and pissing about him! They were SO jealous that he beat out old man Bush and Bob Dole! hahahahaha

Dawn,

I heard on the TV a few minutes ago, that Bhutto did not die from any bullets nor shaprel! She had a head injury caused as she went to duck back into the sky window on the car. there were no bullets nor shrapnel in her. Also, it is her husband who said no more autoposies!

Yet all we heard for those 8 years was bitching, moaning and pissing about him! They were SO jealous that he beat out old man Bush and Bob Dole! hahahahaha
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PamB, GOP supporters remind me of robots. They are programmed by these hate radio pundits and all they do is repeat their banter. I got to laugh when someone comes in here and complains about "why all the hate?". Why don't you ask the GOP shills that question? And if they mean Chimpy Bush, well that's just too bad if you don't like us criticizing the worst president in history. That man made no effort at all to reach out to progressives. He's done every he can to derail the 110th Congress. Excatly why should we be kind to him?

Romney 3.0: Now a newer, sleeker, Reaganite model Hotlist
by brownsox
Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 08:02:42 AM PST

Renowned ex-liberal Mitt Romney, bleeding support in Iowa and New Hampshire as unsatisfied Republicans continue to grope around in the dark for their next Great White Hope, has come out swinging against a suddenly resurgent John McCain:

Romney fired away at McCain, repeatedly accusing the Arizona senator of failing "Reagan 101" by voting twice against Bush administration tax cuts. Romney also said McCain's past support for allowing illegal immigrants to stay in the United States and work toward legal status amounted to amnesty.

I find it especially interesting that Romney invokes the grading system in Reagan 101. I never took the class myself, opting instead to take US History 210: It’s Always Clinton’s Fault. But I have to believe that Romney himself surely failed Introductory Reagan, given that he disavowedthe legacy of Reagan-Bush when campaigning in 1994, taking particular pains to underscore the fact that he was an independent during the 1980s, not a Reagan Republican. Here’s a classic ad from the Log Cabin Republicans from Romney’s U.S. Senate campaign:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/12/28/11242/010/214/426928

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Interesting watching Mitt the Flip twisting in the wind as he attempts to re-define himself. Of course, McCain is full of beans as well ...

Pretty good article in NYT Science section concerning Global Warming:

On Feb. 2, 2007, the United Nations scientific panel studying climate change declared that the evidence of a warming trend is "unequivocal," and that human activity has "very likely" been the driving force in that change over the last 50 years. The last report by the group, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, in 2001, had found that humanity had "likely" played a role.

The addition of that single word "very" did more than reflect mounting scientific evidence that the release of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases from smokestacks, tailpipes and burning forests has played a central role in raising the average surface temperature of the earth by more than 1 degree Fahrenheit since 1900. It also added new momentum to a debate that now seems centered less over whether humans are warming the planet, but instead over what to do about it. In recent months, business groups have banded together to make unprecedented calls for federal regulation of greenhouse gases. The subject had a red-carpet moment when former Vice President Al Gore's documentary, "An Inconvenient Truth," was awarded an Oscar; and the Supreme Court made its first global warming-related decision, ruling 5 to 4 that the Environmental Protection Agency had not justified its position that it was not authorized to regulate carbon dioxide.

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/globalwarming/index.html

"We did better when (Bill) Clinton was in than we did with Bush."
by Chris in Paris · 12/28/2007 11:19:00 AM ET · Link
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Words from a registered Republican. With new polls pointing towards the economy and health care as the key issues for 2008, the GOP is in trouble. Americans trust the Democrats more than the Republicans on these issues. The question now, is which Democrat do we believe will be the strongest candidate for these issues?

Six out of 10 people polled said they believe it is at least somewhat likely that the U.S. economy will enter a recession next year. Slightly more — 64 percent — said they worried about a major unexpected medical expense, and 55 percent worried that the value of their stocks and retirement investments would drop.
More on the middle class concerns, after the jump.

http://www.americablog.com/2007/12/we-did-better-when-bill-clinton-was-in.html

Democratic Dead heat in Iowa
by Joe Sudbay (DC) · 12/28/2007 12:57:00 PM ET · Link
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There have been several new Iowa polls released this week -- and expect a couple more. On the Democratic side, both the LA Times/Bloomberg and Strategic Vision, a Republican polling firm, show dead heats. (More on the polls after the break)

One thing I'm intrigued by is sample for these polls. In 2004, approximately 120,000 Iowa Democrats attended the caucus. Yeah, that's all. From the beginning of September, according to Pollster.com, there have been approximately 40 polls conducted in Iowa. Adding the sample pools, almost 23,000 Iowans have been polled as likely caucus goers on the Democratic side -- or almost 1/5 of the actual amount of caucus goers have been polled. That's quite amazing, if, in fact, it proves to be true. This has got to be the most oversampled pool of 120,000+ voters in history.

http://www.americablog.com/2007/12/democratic-dead-heat-in-iowa.html

GARHI KHUDA BAKHSH, Pakistan — Hundreds of thousands of mourners thronged the mausoleum of Pakistan's most famous political dynasty in an outpouring of emotion for Benazir Bhutto. The government said al-Qaida and the Taliban were responsible for her death, claiming it intercepted an al-Qaida leader's message of congratulation for the assassination.

But many of Bhutto's furious supporters blamed President Pervez Musharraf's government for the shooting and bombing attack on the former prime minister, Musharraf's most powerful opponent. They rampaged through several cities in violence that left at least 23 dead less than two weeks before crucial parliamentary elections.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20071228/pakistan/
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In all probablity, the attack was Taliban / Al Qaeda given that it was a suicide bomber. So, why exactly does Chimpy think Bin Laden and his number two guy are un-important? Hell, they are right there in Pakistan. Bhutto's supporters appear to have a legitimate gripe that Mush did not protect her very well. That will stoke the anger in this country for a long time to come. The people there just don't like Musharraf.

I got to laugh when someone comes in here and complains about "why all the hate?". Why don't you ask the GOP shills that question? And if they mean Chimpy Bush, well that's just too bad if you don't like us criticizing the worst president in history. That man made no effort at all to reach out to progressives. He's done every he can to derail the 110th Congress. Excatly why should we be kind to him?
Posted by rjsnj on December 28, 2007 at 12:45 PM

You want to know my opinion, rj?

When 9/11 happened 9 months after Bush was elected, Even though his approval ratings were going down the dump at that time, there was not an American out here who would not gotten behind him and stood with him, had he done the right thing. NOBODY complained when he sent our boys to Afghanistan. We were all pulling for Bin Laden to get caught. He could have become the greatest President in modern history had he not decided to EXPLOIT the situation and listen to Cheney and PNAC and go into Iraq!

Instead, he has made himself the fool of the world. Hated by all. You see countries electing other leaders to get their countrymen out of the Illegal occupation of Iraq. He turned the USA image into a disaster.

I will never forgive him for that, and I will make sure people all remember it !

Instead, he has made himself the fool of the world. Hated by all. You see countries electing other leaders to get their countrymen out of the Illegal occupation of Iraq. He turned the USA image into a disaster.
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PamB, that's the truth. I supported the action in Afghanistan. To this day, I am completely baffled by that crazy "axis of evil" speech he gave. As soon as I heard it, I knew he was on the wrong track and was going to get the USA into deep trouble.

Nice article by Arianna Huffington who apparently knew Bhutto:

The world is debating the political fallout from Benazir Bhutto's assassination -- from fear of chaos in Pakistan to the impact of her death in Iowa. There is already no shortage of analysis about the national security implications of her death, but I want to write about the young woman I met in England before she became a player on the world stage.

She was at Oxford. I was at Cambridge. And by a strange coincidence I became president of the Cambridge Union and she became president of the Oxford Union. The anomaly of two foreign women heading the two unions meant that we ended up debating each other around England on topics ranging from British politics to broad generalities about the impact of technological advance on mankind.

When I checked my blackberry this morning at 5:28 am LA time there was an e-mail from our news editor Katherine Zaleski: "Benazir Bhutto killed by bombing." Just as the news was filled with the details of her death, my mind was filled with how full of life she had been every time I had seen her, including the last time in 1998 when she came to my home in Los Angeles for a dinner (which Harry Shearer, also there, wrote about). She was in exile, her husband in jail, and she was separated from her children. But still, there was an incredible life force about her, a sense that no matter what life brought her way, whether a tough debating argument, or exile, or her father's death by hanging, or the deaths of her two brothers -- she could deal with it, and she would prevail. Until the rally in Rawalpindi.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/benazir-bhutto-from-the-_b_78488.html?view=print

Car bomb kills at least 14 in Baghdad market
At least 14 people died and 64 others were wounded Friday when a car bomb detonated in the middle of a busy market in central Baghdad, hospital and police officials said. At least one woman and a child were killed in the blast, police said. Full Story:

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/12/28/iraq.html

Car bomb kills at least 14 in Baghdad market
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Hi DKA,

Once again, the American media is silent. They have definitely been intimidated by the Pentagon into not reporting "negative news" on Iraq. No doubt it's because the pigs have been oinking for more media consolidation.

Yes! In running for the next presidential election, democrats need to repeatedly warn people that another vote for another 'Republican', is as good as putting another Bush in the White House.

Buttho was not very smart. In this day and age, just run televised campaingn agenda. Just setup TV outside and ask people to go out and look..

You have to smart like your enemy, dont be dumb!!

I don't mean just dems, with hatred. We haven't really had a majority elected President since 1988. Twenty years of a divided country is not a good thing for any of us. Just my opinion. Peace!!

Hey DKA, Pammy and Jersey (etc),
I'm bak - lunch was grand - FISH on Friday! I'm such a good Catholic (even though I'm not). ;-)

just kidding - but the flounder really was good!
it's POURING out side though. We need it so I won't complain.

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Posted by margotb822 on December 28, 2007 at 12:19 PM

very nice and well thought out! Thank you.

I always knew she was not goint to last long, running around. House arrest would have been good for her. She should have run her campaign from house arrest. THis is the 21st Century, use the technology you have.. Deuhh... look at Osama Bin Laden. He's smart. He televises his news through tapes and sends it off...

If you value democracy, run smarter campaigns. Important figures need to udnerstand that to fight the war on terrorism, they must stay alive at all cost. Dont play stupid.

The hatred goes both ways, I didn't mean just the Dems. We really have not had a majority elected President since 1988. Twenty years of being divided is not a good thing. Just my opinion. Peace!!

Good afternoon fellow Democrats. Good morning to the left coast.

Rudy Giuliani’s new ad..Same as the old 9/11 talking points…
By: John Amato @ 10:29 AM - PST

I was wondering when Rudy would put on the full frontal 9/11 assault ad. He calls it “Freedom.” I call it despicable. Fear-mongering is his only friend. Joe Biden said it the best:

Biden: “…And the irony is, Rudy Giuliani, probably the most under qualified person since George Bush to seek the presidency, is here - talking about any of the people here. Rudy Giuliani. I mean think about it, Rudy Giuliani, there’s only three things he mentions in a sentence — a noun and a verb and 9/11 and I mean, there’s nothing else. There’s nothing else.” (video)

I’m surprised his wife didn’t call him in the middle of filming it. BushCo. has done quite a bit to chip away some of our basic freedoms as it is. Let’s ask the Ranks: (08/17/07)

On July 4, 2004, Nicole and Jeffery Rank attended President Bush’s speech at the West Virginia State Capitol. They were handcuffed, arrested and charged with trespassing for wearing anti-Bush T-shirts. They sued the federal government. Yesterday they settled their suit for $80,000.

When you get arrested for wearing protest T-shirts at a Bush event, I’d say that’s attacking “freedom as well, don’t you?

Jim Kuhnhenn’s analysis is a bit off:

For weeks, Giuliani has portrayed himself as the leader who oversaw the social and economic turnaround of a city. But he had kept his role during the hours and days after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks out of his ads…read on

Has Jim been paying attention to Rudy at all? (h/t Kathy)
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What a jerk Rudy the Ghoul is.

Hey here's a good laugh for ya all:

Bush was asked at a White House press conference last week if he would consider a “goodwill mission to restore the country’s good name abroad.” The president said, “That’s what I do during my presidency. I go around spreading goodwill and talking about the importance of spreading freedom and peace.”
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Chimpy is spreading "freedom and peace". How's that for Orweilian double speak.

Posted by Free on December 28, 2007 at 01:41 PM

I don't think that type of campaign would've worked for former PM Bhutto. Pakistan is as backwater as Afghanistan is if not more. I seriously doubt that even half of the electorate has access to mass media outlets such as TV. Ms. Bhutto was the Pakistani version of the late Sen. Bobby Kennedy (D-NY), IMHO. Unfortunately, she met the same fate.

Good afternoon fellow Democrats. Good morning to the left coast.

Posted by BobVADemHawk-Biden2008 on December 28, 2007 at 01:47 PM
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Good afternoon to you Bob from VA.

Posted by BobVADemHawk-Biden2008 on December 28, 2007 at 01:56 PM

sad but true, I agree!

I don't think that type of campaign would've worked for former PM Bhutto.
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Literacy is also quite low in Pakistan (about 50%). Mass mailings wouldn't work very well. Mass media is limited because the country is predominantly poor. As Bob already said, it's unlikely that much of the population owns a TV or even a radio. She was running a campaign the way politicians generally have to in Pakistan - face to face, meeting lots of people.

DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — Joe Biden's aides call it "Mo-Joe" — a last-minute surge of momentum and good luck they hope could power the Delaware senator into a better-than-expected showing in Iowa's leadoff caucuses.

"There's a fingertip instinct that tells me something is going on. I feel like I'm still in the game," Biden said in a telephone interview as he traveled to a campaign event in Cedar Rapids.

Aides acknowledge it remains an uphill trudge for Biden, a Democrat whose distinguished 35-year Senate career has been eclipsed by the star power of rivals Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama.

But with all eyes on those two candidates and former Sen. John Edwards as they compete for the lead in Iowa, Biden is on a high-energy sprint across the state hoping to catch on with enough voters to make a difference.

He draws enthusiastic crowds to his events and last week began his first sustained TV ad campaign. He was approved for $857,000 in matching funds this week by the Federal Election Commission, helping to ease the financial pressure on his cash-strapped campaign.

Operatives for rival candidates say privately they've detected substantial pockets of support for Biden in some rural areas and in the ethnic, heavily Catholic industrial towns along the Mississippi River in eastern Iowa. Complicated caucus rules mean those pockets could produce enough delegates for Biden to have an impact.

With polls showing Bill Richardson's support appearing to fade and Chris Dodd still struggling to catch on, Biden's advisers are hoping for a strong fourth-place finish and say they can even envision coming in third. Their outside hope is for Biden somehow to overtake Edwards, who draws much of his support from the same blue-collar and rural voters Biden is trying to woo...

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gPmd2pPkhfgQulnxeMnO12wl163wD8TM118G0

It ain't over 'til its over. Sen. Biden (D-DE) is the most qualified and electable Democratic candidate for POTUS, IMHO. His thirty-five years in the Senate with more than twenty years on the Foreign Relations Committee by far makes him the most capable of dealing with the issue of the planet in the 21st century. Vote for Joe Biden in your respective state primaries.

Here is a clip of Biden (as a matter of fact) on Hardball in case anyone missed it.

HAWKEYE POLL HAS CLINTON LEADING
By GEOFF EARLE Post Correspondent
(granted this is the NY Post)

December 28, 2007 -- DENISON, Iowa - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is leading in Iowa six days before the caucuses, with John Edwards edging out Sen. Barack Obama, a new poll shows.

Clinton snares 31 percent of the Hawkeye State vote, while Edwards gets 25 percent and Obama is third at 22 percent among likely caucus-goers, an LA Times/Bloomberg poll released last night shows.

The poll shows Clinton's "experience"-heavy message in the state has been working - 79 percent of Democrats say they believe she's ready to be president, while just 43 percent believe that about Obama.

Posted by rjsnj on December 28, 2007 at 01:58 PM

Hello RJ. Good to "see" you again.

Vote for Joe Biden in your respective state primaries.

Posted by BobVADemHawk-Biden2008 on December 28, 2007 at 02:11 PM
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Good plug Bob!

But alas, I am still an Edwards supporter! Go John Edwards!

Here's yet another PUG to add to the WALL OF SHAME!!

~snip~

Alabama governor accused of violating campaign finance laws
Muriel Kane
Published: Friday December 28, 2007

Alabama's Republican Governor Bob Riley may have attempted to conceal illegal corporate donations to his 2002 and 2006 campaigns by representing them in campaign finance reports as having come from individuals, according to an an investigation carried out by the Montgomery Independent.

Riley's campaigns have been under close scrutiny during the past several weeks, with questions being raised about his narrow victory over incumbent Don Siegelman in 2002, followed by Siegelman's prosecution on what many consider to be trumped-up charges when he proposed to run again in 2006.

...Sen. Joe Biden received endorsements from two key Iowa elected officials. State Representatives Dennis Cohoon of Burlington and Eric Palmer of Oskaloosa become the 15th and 16th Iowa State legislators to endorse Sen. Biden.

“I am supporting Sen. Biden because he’s the most prepared to be president from Day One,” said Rep. Cohoon. “And as a high school special education teacher for thirty years, I know Sen. Biden can accomplish the education reforms we need to get kids in preschool earlier and give them the opportunity to go to college.”

Rep. Palmer stressed Sen. Biden’s experience in world affairs and his commitment to civil rights: “The Des Moines Register talked about knowledge and experience in their endorsement. To me Joe Biden exhibits real knowledge and experience in foreign affairs and his understanding of the constitution, both qualities not exhibited by this White House. As Vice-Chair of the House Judiciary Committee, I am particularly impressed with Sen. Biden’s expertise in constitutional law, which will be critical to getting America back on track.”

In commenting on the endorsements, Biden for President National Political Director Danny O’Brien said, “These are two huge endorsements for Senator Biden that point to his growing momentum in the state. Eric and Dennis were highly sought after and the fact that they chose Joe Biden demonstrates that Iowans are beginning to focus in on what really matters in a president, authenticity and readiness for office.” Added O’Brien, who is also serving as Iowa State Director for the campaign, “We are very grateful to Eric and Dennis for stepping up at this critical time.”

In accepting the endorsement, Senator Biden said, “Getting the endorsement of two men I respect so much is a great tonic for the final push in Iowa. I know that what matters most in Iowa are the voices inside the caucuses who have the most respect from their constituents. That voice belongs to state and local officials. I have such tremendous gratitude for Rep. Cohoon and Rep. Palmer for their support and their confidence in our campaign.

Rep. Dennis Cohoon was first elected in 1986 and has served in the Iowa State House for 21 years. He has been a high school special education teacher at Burlington Community High School for 30 years and is a member of the Iowa State Educators Association. Rep. Cohoon serves on several committees in the Iowa House: the Appropriations Committee, Education Committee, Local Government Committee, and Transportation Committee. He is also the Chairman of the Transportation, Infrastructure, and Capitals Appropriations Subcommittee.

Rep. Eric Palmer was elected to the Iowa State House in 2006 and is serving his first term. Prior to his service in the House, Rep. Palmer was an Oskaloosa City Councilman for 6 years, and he has been an attorney in Oskaloosa for 20 years. Rep. Palmer serves on several committees in the Iowa State House: the Education Committee, Human Resources Committee, Labor Committee, Ways and Means Committee and he serves as Vice Chairman of the Judiciary committee. Rep. Palmer also serves on the Health and Human Services Appropriations Subcommittee.

Reps. Cohoon and Palmer join an impressive group of Iowa state legislators who have endorsed Senator Biden including: State Sen. Joe Seng (Davenport), House Majority Leader Rep. Kevin McCarthy (Des Moines), Speaker Pro Tempore Rep. Polly Butka (Clinton), Rep. John Whitaker (Hillsboro), Rep. Doris Kelley (Waterloo), Rep. Lisa Heddens (Ames), Rep. Jim Lykam (Davenport), Rep. Mike Reasoner (Creston), Rep. Dick Taylor (Cedar Rapids), Rep. Roger Thomas (Elkader), Rep. McKinley Bailey (Webster City), State Senator Herman C. Quirmbach (Ames), Rep. Mary Gaskill (Ottumwa) and Rep. Bruce Hunter (Des Moines).

http://www.joebiden.com/newscenter/pressreleases?id=0263

Posted by BobVADemHawk-Biden2008 on December 28, 2007 at 02:21 PM

good for him! He needs it if he has any hopes of getting a spot in the next DEM cabinet.

Posted by rjsnj on December 28, 2007 at 02:18 PM

Fair enough. For what it's worth, if Biden can't get enough support to get out of IA and\or NH, former Sen. Edwards (D-NC) is my second choice. The GOP wouldn't stand a chance against a Edwards\Richardson or Edwards\Obama ticket.

OMG talk about a HUGE AZZ!

Dec 28, 2:26 PM EST
~snip~

Bush Plans to Veto Defense Policy Bill

By BEN FELLER
Associated Press Writer

CRAWFORD, Texas (AP) -- President Bush plans to veto a sweeping defense policy bill on grounds that language exposing the Iraqi government to damage suits stemming from the Saddam Hussein era would derail Baghdad's efforts to rebuild the country.

Administration officials said Bush was expected the veto the bill Friday.

Democratic congressional leaders complained that Bush's move was thrust upon them at the last minute. The controversy centers on one provision in the legislation dealing with Iraqi assets. The bill would permit plaintiffs' lawyers immediately to freeze Iraqi funds and would expose Iraq to "massive liability in lawsuits concerning the misdeeds of the Saddam Hussein regime," said White House spokesman Scott Stanzel.

"The new democratic government of Iraq, during this crucial period of reconstruction, cannot afford to have its funds entangled in such lawsuits in the United States," Stanzel said in a statement.

House and Senate Democrats said Friday the first time they'd heard of any White House concerns with the legislation was after Congress sent the bill to Bush for his signature.

Posted by BobVADemHawk-Biden2008 on December 28, 2007 at 02:27 PM
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Those would all be good tickets. We'll do well no matter who is the final choice. The GOP is running a pack of losers, nut cases and re-threads.

Bob

will you stay at home if Biden or Eddie are not the DEM candidate???? (chances are slim for either but that's just what I'm reading EVERYwhere, sorry)

I hope you are not one to stay home otherwise.

OMG talk about a HUGE AZZ!

Dec 28, 2:26 PM EST
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Dawn,

As I said above, Chimpy has made it his job this year to derail the 110th Congress. I have absolutely no respect for him. He is the worst president in history and has done nothing to reconcile himself with over 50% (maybe as much as 75%) of the citizens in this country. Basically, he has shoved his obnoxious right wing pseudo-religious warmongering nonsense down our throats for 7 years. Good riddance!

Good afternoon, everyone.

My heart goes out to the family of Benazir Bhutto. I had not realized that she was in exile while her husband was still in jail in Pakistan nor that she was separated from her children for a time.

We take our freedom and justice way too much for granted in this country. She gave her life fighting for them in Pakistan.

The Republicans are slowly but surely taking these precious liberties away from us...after our forefathers fought so hard for them. There is a lesson here for the American people.

Instead of obsessing over such trival things as who might win the American Idol competition, shouldn't our nation's statesmen/women be challenging citizens to stand up for their democracy?

Torture and pre-emptive attacks are beneath us. We have an obligation to uphold the principles that the founding fathers included in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Posted by SandyH on December 28, 2007 at 02:39 PM

I am sick to DEATH of Idol and shows like it.

Is the writers strike over yet? jez. :-[

(I guess it's lucky I don't watch much TV or I'd probably have thrown something through the screen by now)

actually I feel that way lately listening to certain TV news hacks - like Tweety for example. He drools so much it makes my stomach turn.

oh oh I almost forgot, I was LOL when I went back to read your response about our inmate trolls having a stop off at the airport bathroom. HAHA!

Posted by Ladydawn on December 28, 2007 at 02:37 PM

Absolutely not; I shall support whomever we nominate except Rep. Kucinich (D-OH) or former Sen. Gravel (D-AK). Any of the others currently seeking the nomination would make a fine POTUS, IMHO.

Torture and pre-emptive attacks are beneath us. We have an obligation to uphold the principles that the founding fathers included in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Posted by SandyH on December 28, 2007 at 02:39 PM
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Sandy, darn right. That's another reason why I have nothing but disdain for the Chimpenfuhrer and the puppet master Cheney.

dawn,

I prefer not to pay much attention to what the media and polls are saying. It's important to me to listen to what the candidates are saying about the issues that concern the American voters the most.

If there has ever been a time when politicians needed to listen to the people it is now. The electorate is frustrated and disillusioned. It's not enough to say the right things, voters have to believe the candidates understand the problems and have the will to fix them.

Saying you have knowledge, experience, and judgment is not the same as conveying the impression that you can deliver.

It's become obvious that voters are looking more closely at candidates who they feel they can trust. I think the American voter is ready for a serious candidate like Ike with whom they can place their full trust.

Trust and dependability. That is what this nation needs and yearns to have again.

Back to the grind. later.

Is the writers strike over yet? jez. :-[
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No! I heard today that they are not even talking with other.

Posted by BobVADemHawk-Biden2008 on December 28, 2007 at 02:50 PM

whew! glad to read it. I have not heard word ONE from Dennis in a long time. And Gravel? Well I kind of liked his quirkiness until I saw his WEIRDer than life Xmas video. stttttrrrrrrrrrrange! Must be something about the weather in Alaska? lol

and speaking of VA my R cousin told me yesterday that he is GLAD Warner is leaving. I was shocked. ANy chance the OTHER Warner will try to take his place?

It's important to me to listen to what the candidates are saying about the issues that concern the American voters the most.

Sandy that's great if you are really listening to all of them and not just your fav?

Also, I had a comment about endorsements. You don't think they matter much but I whole heartedly disagree. When I WAS able to work (and mostly as some version of some office manager) I hired many and fired few but their resume was very important to me and their endorsements or references were number ONE! That's the only way someone got hired. If they had too few they never even got looked at by me. That was how I was taught.

So to me it's the MOST important thing. Qualification, resume, endorsements! If you're willing to put your (hopefully) good name behind someone, it means a LOT.

gtg

bbl

peace

gtg

bbl

peace

Posted by SandyH on December 28, 2007 at 02:39 PM

Torture and pre-emptive attacks are beneath us. We have an obligation to uphold the principles that the founding fathers included in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

While we agree 100% on torture, pre-emptive strikes could be feasible under proper circumstances. The pre-emptive strike in Iraq was mostly unwarranted, though, IMHO.

In the 21st century, the POTUS needs to have the War Powers Act at his disposal for the very same reasons we enacted. Except now, our main enemy is not the Soviet Union but Al-Qaeda. What we need is a POTUS whom we can trust to use the power of the office of POTUS wisely. That has happened very rarely, if ever, over the last seven years.

Good Afternoon, ALL!

So now Maliki is jerking Chimpy around. What a weakling. First Chimpy bankrupts our Treasury so we have to rely on China and Japan to keep us afloat, NOW Iraq is threatening Chimpy with economic blackmail.

Subsequently, the government of Iraq raised objections to Section 1083, in which Congress strengthened the ability of victims of the brutality of Saddam Hussein to seek compensation. The Iraqi government has warned that plaintiffs, including former U.S. POWs who had been held captive during the first Gulf War in the 1990s, might cite this section in seeking compensation from its assets currently in U.S. banks — reportedly $25 billion. The Iraqi government has threatened that, unless President Bush agrees to veto the Defense Department legislation, Iraqi leaders will immediately move assets out of U.S. banks.

(bold mine)

This comes from the "Background" section of Speaker Pelosi's response to Chimpy threatening to veto the Defense Appropriations Bill, thus killing the Military pay raise and the Wounded Veterans Assistance facets too.

Pelosi and Reid Condemn Bush Plan to Veto of Defense Authorization Bill

Chimpy is a stumbler and bumbler beeyond imagination. How could such a stupid dolt be allowed to even visit the White House unless it's on a guided tour with the rest of the 8th graders?

It looks like the Republican machine is preparing for Edwards.
They running commercials saying "stop lawsuit abuse." The reasons they list are pretty funny. It's a very sneaky ploy.

Why does this blog let gross, mean, stupid trolls post?
it makes all Republicans look like Sam BROWNBACK, Larry CRAIG, Rick SANTORUM morons. I suppose they are.

How about the Republicans get Larry Craig and Sam Brownback to re-submit the "marriage bill?"
They can call it the "Craig-Brownback Bill!" LOL. Hi HO Cowboy!
Talk about a "wide stance" on the marriage issue.

I went on my 8th grade trip. It didn't take me until HS to be mature enough to go. Apparently since you still haven't mentally matured it must have been a "Special" tour for "Special" 18 year olds. Or possibly a Middle of the night romp with that eras Gannon/Guckert, perhaps?

Harpo, the wimp who hides from Democrats. he can't even use his/her name. He's scared of democrats. HAHAHA.
He makes up new names and chats with himself. LOSER!

Thanks to Harpo and Republicans, Chinese goods fill the shelves in America. They did it for the money, and they are TRADERS!

I like the Motto of General Wesley Clark's WesPac:

When President Bush leaves town, we want Rubber Stamp Republicans in the House to be where they've always been -- right behind him.

Ask the military who's treasonous.
Keep hiding behind your name, macho tough guy.
Harpo... LOL. Ophra has invaded your small mind.

Don't worry about it; it's the Chimp kisser's mental illness. They confuse that alcoholic blow monkey WITH "America". They liken telling the truth about the WORST POS to EVER stink up the Oval Office to "hating America".

They just refuse to acknowlege reality. Chimpy is NOT "America".

Chimpy is A Piece of SHIT.

America ISN'T.

They just refuse to acknowlege reality. Chimpy is NOT "America".

Chimpy is A Piece of SHIT.

America ISN'T.

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on December 28, 2007 at 04:42 PM
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That's for sure. The right wing hacks worship the Chimpenfuhrer. Chimp is as un-American as it gets. Chimp and the other fascist Cheney should have been impeached long time ago.

Later ...

They just refuse to acknowlege reality. Chimpy is NOT "America".

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on December 28, 2007 at 04:42 PM

Doo Bee, I am constantly amazed that they think because we criticize e.g what George Bush has done to this country, That he is possibly the lowest IQ president to ever have office. That he is a liar, an AWOL coward, has outspent any Democratic President in history, that SOMEHOW that means we are criticizing the USA !

Did we call them anti American and unpatriotic when they were ganging up on Bill Clinton??? I don't remember so! We called them assholes, but never anti American!

Funny littler critters, aren't they?

Im bak - still pouring out!! wow.

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on December 28, 2007 at 04:28 PM

awesome! He's my hero!

It takes some getting used to this COLDdddddddddd rain!

not at all like Florida! It's a bummer I can't go skipping through the puddles (since I'm doggie sitting). Well I could but then I'd end up with pneumonia.

Anyone watching Tweety? I hear him from the other room. yawn.

Posted by PamB on December 28, 2007 at 04:59 PM

Ain't they though? It's that, "You're with us or against us" mentality. Conservatives are incapable or unwilling of distinguishing shades of gray in issues.

Romney administration could have kept killer behind bars

SHIRLEY, Mass. -- A killer accused in the slaying of a newlywed couple in Washington state shortly after he was released from prison in Massachusetts should have been held behind bars for almost a year longer, but the Romney administration failed to file paperwork in time to take away his "good time" credits.

The Department of Correction, under then-Gov. Mitt Romney, did not act on disciplinary recommendation to strip 300 days of credit from Daniel Tavares after he was accused of threats to prison staff in 2003, state officials announced Friday in releasing results of a probe into the Tavares case.

Posted by PamB on December 28, 2007 at 04:59 PM
They are mean. snarling, foaming at the mouth, little ankle biters!

Look at what this cowardly Chimp is trying to pull NOW. He threatens to VETO the Defense Bill which provides for pay raises for the Military and Wounded Veterans' Funding among other things but he doesn't want to be associated with HIS OWN actions!

Here's how KargoX puts it:

He hasn't even got the stones to put his signature to it

Bush claims Senate's pro forma sessions don't count

This ass has got to go. He is the WORST HUMAN EVER!

The Democratic campaign committees ended November with nearly five times as much cash on hand as their Republican counterparts. This means Democrats will enter 2008 well-positioned to pick up additional seats due to their continued financial advantage and a slew of GOP retirements, largely in highly competitive districts.

The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee raised $4.1 million in November, compared with the $2.7 million brought in by the National Republican Congressional Committee.

The DCCC now has $30.7 million cash on hand, exponentially more than the $2.3 million banked by the NRCC.

On the Senate side, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee ended November with $25.5 million banked, more than double the cash on hand of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, with about $10.4 million.

Still, House Republican fortunes rose somewhat last month when GOP members’ campaign committees kicked in about $3 million to the NRCC — transactions that were not reported in the most recent filings. That money will go into the committee’s coffers — and not to immediately pay off the $3.35 million in debt...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1207/7509.html

It would appear that the GOP run their campaigns like they run the business of America; on their credit card making the minimum payment only and trashing their credit rating in the process.

Good night fellow Democrats. Keep the Faith and keep the faith. The liberal revolution is now...

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on December 28, 2007 at 05:47 PM......There is something seriously wrong with Bush....is he really insane?

I just heard flat out lie about what Hillary said on her first campaign stop after the death of Bhutto. He said she came right out and said it was going to benefit her campaign, I watched that speech and she absolutely did not. She would not politicize the death of such a great leader.
Obama sucks! Obama's people suck! If you can't beat her then lie about her just as rove, delay, mathews, russett and the rest of the crap load of republicans and their mouthpieces

Posted by connfloyd on December 28, 2007 at 05:58 PM

Hey Connie. Try not to let it get to you. I heard Wolf earlier keep pestering Hillary for some kind of confrontation about what Obama said but she stayed above it all and stuck to the important facts of Bhutto's death. Exactly as she should respond, imo. This petty crap is for ALL OF the shifty campaign managers. That's what they were hired for, I believe.

It's crunch time. They are ALL going to be thrashing each other the next couple of days, I bet.

It's all part of the wretched game of politics. Sadly. The LIES will be brought out. NO swiftboating this time around. We'll be ready for it. At least we don't assassinate the competition like they do in (say) Pakistan. Great example of what WE DON'T want this country to become.

Are the DAMN DNC moderators on permanent vacation or something???? jezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzus why can't we clean up this troll infestation once and for all??? GAWwwwwwwwwd!

Sometimes I think they WANT THESE A-HOLES in here just to prove to the world the difference between DEMS and PUKES!!

But that would be a dumb thing to do imo. It's so funny though cuz they will call us all kinds of names, diss us, etc., yet they keep hanging around?? Like they are trapped or something and we're forcing them to READ THE TRUTH! OH THEIR EYES MUST BURN!!

lmao!

stinken, no good, useless individuals (non human), sucky toads with tiny dicks! blechhhhhhh!

Connie this could make you feel better. Speaking of Wes Clark

Breaking -- Gen. Wesley Clark responds to the latest Obama attack:

"This is a time for leadership, not politics. Senator Obama's campaign seems to believe that Senator Clinton's actions led to the tragic events in Pakistan. This is an incredible and insulting charge. It politicizes a tragic event of enormous strategic consequence to the United States and the world, and it has no place in this campaign."

I'm thinking Wes will be a GREAT VP choice if Hillary wins the primaries. She'd be DUMB NOT to pick him.

Right ON Vermont~!!

~snip~

Vermont town seeks Bush, Cheney arrests

Town in Liberal Vermont Considers Measure to Have Bush, Cheney Arrested for War Crimes

DAVE GRAM
AP News

Dec 28, 2007 16:54 EST

President Bush may soon have a new reason to avoid left-leaning Vermont: In one town, activists want him subject to arrest for war crimes.

A group in Brattleboro is petitioning to put an item on a town meeting agenda in March that would make Bush and Vice President Cheney subject to arrest and indictment if they visit the southeastern Vermont community.

"This petition is as radical as the Declaration of Independence, and it draws on that tradition in claiming a universal jurisdiction when governments fail to do what they're supposed to do," said Kurt Daims, 54, a retired machinist leading the drive.

As president, Bush has visited every state except Vermont.

Why isn't the MSM reporting this important measure?

WASHINGTON, December 29 - RIA Novosti, Alexei Berezin. Action Team in the American city of Brattleboro (VT) filed a petition to the local council to place the issue on the ballot for the arrest of U.S. President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney for war crimes, local media reported.
If the city council approves the petition, then Bush and Cheney will be arrested as soon as they arrive in the town of Brattleboro.

"This petition is a radical as the Declaration of Independence" - said militant movement Deyms Court.

To incorporate the issue of the arrest of Bush and Cheney on the agenda of the City Council one thousand signatures must be collected.

The State of Vermont is known for its liberal views: former state Senate voted to support Bush's impeachment. The staff is constantly undergoing antiwar rallies, and the bumper sticker on the car "Bush Impeachment" - an ordinary case.

Activists want a vote on the issue of the arrest of Bush and Cheney

Dawn,

You beat me to it. I wonder if they will send them to the Hague?

Good evening, all.

This is a time for leadership, not politics.

It's a primary. It's a time for politics.

Who does Clark think he's fooling. If he wants the VP post that bad, he's going to have to be a little less transparent of his support for Clinton...she just might not get the nod when the primaries are over.

With other good choices available for VP it's not a done deal.

Harpo, this is old news. The MSM has been reporting it since late this morning. Has it taken Faux News this long to get the message and pass it along to you? I suppose Limbaugh has proof positive that Bin Lauden personally pulled the trigger? Funny how he knows everything.

Posted by Ladydawn on December 28, 2007 at 06:18 PM.

That, and "evidence". Once it "goes away" the trolls who re-write other peoples' posts and just flat out make them up and attach TIME STAMPS to them aren't really gone. 'Maybe' (Pssst...don't tell anyone) Lawyers are involved.

Humpo's claim that he really doesn't care because his juvenile diaper and "poo" and "fat ass" comments are gone in 24 hours is probably because he is too stuck on "Stupid" to come to the realization that having them archived for ALL the world to see is HIS cyber-legacy.

It's sad how desperate and pathetic these self proclaimed "tough guys" REALLY are when they just act like 8 year old losers.

Pathetic.

Be prepared for more "diaper", "poo", "bestiality", "tranquilizer guns', (etc) well thought out political "debate" (which they ALL claim was the ONLY reason to come on here, until THEY were "attacked"....Their "fall back" position.)

They are the Cyber equivalent of school yard bullies, and when they get slapped down revert to "I smell underwear" retorts.

Who gives a Holy Shit about how much Pam's Mayor weighs?

Pam worked her fingers to the bone to get her candidate elected and now Pam has HER Mayor!

WAY TO GO PAM!!!!!!!!!!!

Chubby Cheeto (OTOH) is too busy talking about asses, dicks, bondage, rubber/leather suits, bestiality, diapers, SHIT, ETC.

What a FINE example, and self confession of what the Pugs really care about.

Sad and pathetic, as evidenced by ALL 4 of them spending the entire time from 6 PM (EST) 12/23 to 6AM (EST) 12/26 "talking" to each other about THEIR personal perversions which ARE Shit, diapers, bestiality, asses, dicks, ETC. and projecting them on Dems.

It's like an 8 year old's game of "Let's talk dirty"

It's truly a mental disease.

Grow up!

Time to get the grub going.

hey dawn, i just can't get used to politics, guess i believe in my heart of hearts clinton is who we need at the time we need her. I guess im getting so much like my mom, she used to give the t v hell when her favorite bill was in.
the pukes really obscured his legacy. he really did do quiet a few good things for america.
My daughter who is pregnant and is a fulltime ultrasonographer will get to use the family leave act.
I tried to use it when i had to take my dad to cancer therapy every day for 7 weeks 60 miles a day. The powers that run hospitals in texas haven't heard of that act and probably don't think they need to worry about using it because this is BUSHIT COUNTRY. hAD TO BE REAL CAREFUL NOT TO LOSE MY JOB. IT SURE PIST ME OFF THOUGH.

Posted by Ladydawn on December 28, 2007 at 03:04 PM

dawn,

If I wasn't listening to all of the candidates, I wouldn't have given Biden a second look. I've also been impressed with Dodd of late.

I'm not hiring an employee. I'm selecting the best leader who will deliver a progressive agenda and who will have the coat tails necessary to insure a super majority in Congress.

Since none of our candidates has ever been a top executive except Richardson I don't see how endorsements really means anything.

Posted by connfloyd on December 28, 2007 at 07:43 PM

understandable!

Posted by Johnedwrd on December 28, 2007 at 07:24 PM

jinx {{JE}} and Welcome Back ;-)

Posted by SandyH on December 28, 2007 at 07:30 PM

dude listen he's a 4 STAR GENERAL he's not trying to "fool" anyone. He's worried about this country. PERIOD. jezzzz Sandy, talk about CYNICAL and insulting? pft. :-\

Ok I'm off to watch the TV news (Keith of course)

good luck everyone
Peas

sorry folks, i can't stand to hear dodd talk.it's his voice modulation. He alsoirritates me with that young wife. i won't vote for anybody that trades in the old 40 year old for a 20 year old. thats just my upbringing and i cant change that.
i would love to go the colorado for the convention. can anyone go or do you have to be invited or exactly how is it done?

Posted by BobVADemHawk-Biden2008 on December 28, 2007 at 03:25 PM

Bob,

I haven't disagreed with you of late, but I think you are dead wrong here. Al Queada is not a country. They are small but dedicated group of loosely allied anarchists. You go after these people with the CIA and special opps.

You don't forfiet Congressional power to any President to wage war without a thorough review of the situation and a vote. In a nuclear age, it's even more important not to play cowboy and act quick on the trigger.

War is hell. One does not march into it thinking that it will all work out for the better. Everyone loses. Life is so fragile to begin with. Nuclear disaster among nations could mean the end of all life on this planet.

I do not want to give any one person no matter how smart they are the right to pre-emptively end existence as we know it.

Posted by Ladydawn on December 28, 2007 at 07:52 PM

I'm surprised with your attitude, dawn.

You were in the military. Surely, you are not trying to tell me that that organization is not one of the most political of places.

Wes Clark ran for President in 2004 and he's running for VP now. He's political. He's been sending me e-mails for years now....because he thinks I like to keep in touch for old time's sake?

I like him. He impressed me last time around. I wish he had gotten into the presidential campaign this year.

But being a four star general only gives him considerable insight and experience into military matters which is only one of the responsibilities of a president. His endorsement is no more important than others distinguished Americans.

We are all worried...about the Republicans somehow finding a way to do it to us again.

The hatred goes both ways, I didn't mean just the Dems. We really have not had a majority elected President since 1988. Twenty years of being divided is not a good thing. Just my opinion. Peace!!

Posted by dieharddemocrat on December 28, 2007 at 01:44 PM

Better correct that, we had a majority elected President in 2004.

Nuclear disaster among nations could mean the end of all life on this planet.

Posted by SandyH on December 28, 2007 at 08:03 PM

All life on the planet? Where do you hear such foolishness? If all the nuclear bombs on earth go off at the same time it won't amount to small percentage of the havoc Mt Yellowstone will cause when it goes off. And that won't kill all life on the planet either.

Besides, I heard that global frickin warmin is gonna kill off all life on the planet.

And remember what we decided this morning-when the trolls get here - ignore them.

Posted by connfloyd on December 28, 2007 at 07:55 PM

connfloyd,

And it's that same kind of attitude that will keep some people from considering Hillary because she didn't throw out Bill. It makes no sense to me.

But then I don't care about what goes on inside other peoples' personal lives.

I do care whether our nominee can pull their weight getting other Democrats elected and then start delivering progressive changes quickly once in the Oval Office.

Time to start dinner.

there's a big difference in throwing out your old wife for a young one, and honoring your marriage commitment. That's what hillary has done and that's exactly what dodd hasn't.
So as far as im concerned Dodd is not any better than bill and Hillary is a whole lot better than both of them.
Afterall, her committment to her husband is honorable even if his isn't. But that's her bussiness.
If she can honor her original committment to bill after all the things he's done to her. I believe she'll honor her committment to me.
That committment to me is helping the middle class. She will do the best she can, but not everyone in washington is like her. The only committments they honor is the ones to themselves. I believe she'll fight for us with her last breath.
They don't make them like her everyday and we need to recognize and capitilize on her strength.
I

Hey Dan! Hey Harpo!

Here is an encore for Pammy:

So, John Edwards has been porkin a younger, prettier, non dumpy broad and now he has gotten her knocked up while his is dying.

Do you think that is helpful or hurtful to his campaign?

Hey Dan! Hey Harpo!

Here is an encore for Pammy:

So, John Edwards has been porkin a younger, prettier, non dumpy broad and now he has gotten her knocked up while his wife is dying.

Do you think that is helpful or hurtful to his campaign?

I see DoPeyD is playin around with names again. If he had a brain though he would state something remotely believable when he does that.

In the old days he would raise the ire of the queers here using fagotry as a pejorative, but we only have one queer left here, greggy, and he is still in the closet. He wears a disguise to gay pride day.

Remember what happened to the last former fatboy from Arkansas trying to be "cool" by liking music? I'll take "Stained Dresses" for $400, Alex.

The Lovely and Talented Ann Coulter

Thanks to the cheap bastard repukes that block universal health care, this young lady died.

CHEAP BASTARDS!GLENDALE, Calif. (AP) -- At 17-year-old Nataline Sarkisyan's funeral Friday, little was said about the insurance company that denied a potentially life-saving liver transplant and then reversed the decision hours before the girl died.
Philadelphia-based Cigna Corp. initially refused to approve a liver transplant, calling the surgery an experimental procedure that was not covered by the employer's benefit plan. Nataline was covered under the policy of her father, an automotive technician for Mercedez-Benz of Calabasas, said her father Krikor Sarkisyan.

Four doctors appealed to the insurer to reconsider in a Dec. 11 letter. The doctors said patients in similar situations who undergo transplants have a si