Good Morning Good Dem's...another great day to carry the fight on to victory in '08......

I have some work to do this morning, I'll have to catch up with you fine folks a little later....keep it in the road....

German chicken (chit) tests positive for H5N1 flu strain

ohh Pammy, is our nasty cowardly Nazi troll sick? lmao well we all KNEW that didn't we???

(and a ho,ho,ho, no let up for the slash and dash burn of all the campaigns)

Two conservative groups plan Hillary Iowa attack ads

Merry Christmas, Barack!

The American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees filed documents with the Federal Election Commission this weekend announcing that they will spend $40,755 on a mailing opposing Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL), according to the Washington Post. The labor union is among several active in Iowa promoting Sen. Hillary Clinton's (D-NY) candidacy, and will also run critical TV ad spots.

Also jumping on the holiday bandwagon is a group founded by a former supporter of Sen. John Edwards (D-NC), "Democratic Courage," which is spending $20k on an anti-Clinton TV ad buy.

The group has already produced two television ad spots -- one in which Obama is shown delivering lumps of coal to Iowa voters, a second rebuking Hillary Clinton for "lacking spine," showing her as a cardboard cutout "blowing in the wind."

Two conservative groups also declared their intentions to attack Clinton.

A political action committee affiliated with Republican Alan Keyes will spend $39k on phone banks and mailers opposing the junior New York senator; RightMarch.com will spend $16,465 on mailers.

The BBC has an interesting comparison chart on the presidential candidates this morning. It's at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/default/stm
Go to the bottom left corner of the page and click on "US election issues". It gives a comparison between the views of the candidates. There's a Republican section and a Democrat section.
They are only listing the top three Democratic candidates, but they don't editorialize on the candidates views, and you can see them side by side.

gee dah, ya think GW DOUCHE has continued a trend?

December 26, 2007
At 60% of Total, Texas Is Bucking Execution Trend
By ADAM LIPTAK

~snip~

This year’s death penalty bombshells — a de facto national moratorium, a state abolition and the smallest number of executions in more than a decade — have masked what may be the most significant and lasting development. For the first time in the modern history of the death penalty, more than 60 percent of all American executions took place in Texas.

Over the past three decades, the proportion of executions nationwide performed in Texas has held relatively steady, averaging 37 percent. Only once before, in 1986, has the state accounted for even a slight majority of the executions, and that was in a year with 18 executions nationwide.

But enthusiasm for executions outside of Texas has dropped sharply. Of the 42 executions in the last year, 26 were in Texas. The remaining 16 were spread across nine other states, none of which executed more than three people. Many legal experts say the trend will probably continue.

Texas you must be just sooooo damn proud? NOT!!

Drat! I put a slash where it was a dot, let me put the link in again.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/default.stm
Sorry about that. It's still a good chart, though.

Disappointing Sales During Holiday Season

By MICHAEL BARBARO
Published: December 26, 2007

~snip~

American consumers, uneasy about the economy and unimpressed by the merchandise in stores, delivered the bleak holiday shopping season retailers had expected, if not feared, according to one early but influential projection.

Spending between Thanksgiving and Christmas rose just 3.6 percent over last year, the weakest performance in at least four years, according to MasterCard Advisors, a division of the credit card company. By comparison, sales grew 6.6 percent in 2006, and 8 percent in 2005.

Posted by Butte on December 26, 2007 at 09:52 AM

I agree.

I still can't freaking believe that about Texas.

I need to send this to my TX relatives. They will be in shock I'm sure. Nasty kitty litter strewn state. blechhhhhhhhhhh!

sorry lone star folks I can't stand your state

(nothing against the fine DEMS trying to survive there)

Time for breakfast!!

Peace and BBL

Gotta love when Republicans eat their young.

In New Hampshire, Republicans are out protesting other Republicans because they're all fighting who's the most conservative. And now 11 of them have been arrested. And now that their rights have been abrogated, will they turn to the ACLU to save them? Gotta love em.

bak w/brunch!

This is a pretty great list of the DIRT we're getting rid of in Congress & Senate.

REPUKES - Going

Sen. Wayne Allard (CO)
Sen. Pete Domenici (NM)
Sen. Chuck Hagel (NE)
Sen. Trent Lott (MS)
Sen. John Warner (VA)

Rep. Barbara Cubin (WY)
Rep. Terry Everett (AL)
Rep. Mike Ferguson (NJ)
Rep. Denny Hastert (IL)
Rep. David L. Hobson (OH)
Rep. Ray LaHood (IL)
Rep. Steve LaTourette (OH)
Rep. Jim McCrery (LA)
Rep. Steve Pearce (NM)
Rep. Chip Pickering (MS)
Rep. Deb Pryce (OH)
Rep. Jim Ramstad (MN)
Rep. Ralph Regula (OH)
Rep. Rick Renzi (AZ) (yuuuckkk)
Rep. Jim Saxton (NJ)
Rep. Tom Tancredo (CO)
Rep. Jerry Weller (IL)
Rep. Heather Wilson (NM) (double yuuuckkk)

Homeland Insecurity adviser Francis Townsend

Gov. Ernie Fletcher (KY)

Going??

Sen. Larry Craig (ID)

Gone (hip hip HOORAYYY)

Alberto Gonzalez
Secy of Ag. Mike Johanns
Karl Rove
Tony Snow

In jail (better yet)

Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham (CA)
Rep. Robert Ney (OH)
Gov. George Ryan (IL)

Indicted

Former Rep. Tom DeLay (TX)

Under investigation

Former Rep. John Sweeney (NY)
accused of abusing his wife
Former Rep. Don Sherwood (PA)
accused of choking his mistress
Former Rep. Mark Foley (FL)
inappropriate activity with underage pages
Sen. Pete Domenici (NM)
accused in firing US attorney David Iglesias
Rep. John Doolittle (CA)
subject of federal probe into Jack Abramoff ties

Too bad Montana's Republican (non)Representative Denny Rheberg isn't somewhere on that list.
All he's done for the last eight years is rubber-stamp the Bushiato's requests. Yeeeech!!!!!

well blow me down!

North Carolina 2008 Presidential Election

Clinton Competitive in North Carolina
Wednesday, December 26, 2007

~snip~

North Carolina has been a safely Republican state in recent Presidential elections. Even with a home state Senator as the Democratic Vice Presidential Candidate in 2004, President George W. Bush carried the state by a dozen percentage points.

But, early in the 2008 election cycle, North Carolina offers some hope to the Democrats. Hillary Clinton is competitive in the state against four leading Republican Presidential candidates. The former First Lady has a two-point edge over Mitt Romney (42% to 40%) and trails Rudy Giuliani by a statistically insignificant single percentage point (Giuliani 40% Clinton 39%).

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maybe I'll get myself a Hillary bumper sticker after all.......... or one like my neighbor has that says (and I still love it)

Well Behaved Women
RARELY make History!

Posted by Butte on December 26, 2007 at 10:43 AM

yea and I didn't see any from NC on that list either and we've got some doozies! I thought old biddy DOLE would be on that list.

G'day,

Texas you must be just sooooo damn proud? NOT!!

Posted by Ladydawn on December 26, 2007 at 09:49 AM

LD, maybe it's something in the water, or bad (mad) beef. Or, with a little detective work, may find something stunning being broadcast in the air waves.
Something ain't kosher.

Posted by TomN on December 26, 2007 at 10:48 AM

it's the "deadly" kitty litter! It's toxic and full of OIL!! (literally) ;-)

I never thought I'd hear myself say this but, "RIGHT ON RUSSIA!"

Go ahead, egg my Hummer (there is one in my complex I'd LOVE to pelt)

13 minutes ago

MOSCOW (Reuters) - A Hummer owner in Russia's second city St. Petersburg has given antiglobalists the green light to pelt his oversized vehicle with rotten eggs, Russian news agencies reported on Wednesday.

"Peter Antiglobalist" activists told news agency RIA they found a driver willing to let them express their dissatisfaction with consumerism by throwing things at his luxury sport utility vehicle, a spokesman said.

A Moscow car dealer puts the base price of a Hummer H3 at $49,500.

"Luxury is a false value, clouding modern society's vision. Advertising posters, TV shows and slick marketing constantly tells us that buying things is the most important value in our society," RIA quoted the spokesman as saying.

The antiglobalists said throwing eggs and tomatoes at the Hummer will help draw attention to their cause.

The vehicle's owner said he will then sell it and donate the proceeds to an orphanage.

Good morning and an early Happy New Years. In case you are wondering how the shopping season held up economically:

Target, Sears and Macy's have slowest season in five years
by Chris in Paris · 12/26/2007 10:21:00 AM ET · Link
Discuss this post here: Comments (9) · reddit · FARK ·· Digg It!

During my recent visit to the US, I was shocked at how empty a local Macy's was just a few weeks before Christmas. I walked in to a nearly empty store (on a weekend) and went to the checkout with only one person ahead of me in line.

Sounds like the high gas prices hurt budgets this year. Maybe Cheney was wrong again, but when was he ever correct?

http://www.americablog.com/2007/12/target-sears-and-macys-have-slowest.html

Another NH paper slams Mitt
by Joe Sudbay (DC) · 12/26/2007 08:58:00 AM ET · Link
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Over the weekend, The Concord Monitor called Mitt Romney a "phony" who should not be president.

Today, another major smackdown of Mitt from the Union Leader, which is the right-wing Republican paper in NH (and pro-McCain). The funny thing is that Mitt considers NH something of a second home. He has a big second home on Lake Winnipesaukee. But NH folks, at least the editorial writers, aren't loving the Mittster. Best line:

In this primary, the more Mitt Romney speaks, the less believable he becomes.

Classic.
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I think the people in New England know Mitt the Flipper all too well. They could hardly wait to get rid of him in Massachusetts.

Posted by rjsnj on December 26, 2007 at 11:04 AM

ya know what I was thinking earlier when I posted that other article about lower Xmas sales.......... if it was the other way around ???

can you imagine? If this country would be so crass and indifferent that they would spend like drunken sailors over the holiday when soldiers are dying and the nation is plunging into the depths of despair over this Wretched Administration!!!

Well that would just about convince me to move OUT of the U.S.

Had they been so selfish and shameless! (as a whole)

almost the same way I felt when so many FOOLS voted for that IDIOT-in-THIEF TWICE!!!!! OMG!!

I think America has awakened from it's drunken, selfish stupor of the wonderful 90's. That's what happens when you have such a great economy for so long. People get in a habit. Time to BREAK the HABIT! Time to Bring the TRoops HOME and get on to fiscal responsibility again!!!

DEMOCRATS IN 08!!!

Republicans, who 12 years ago made up 41.7 percent of the presidential primary electorate, now constitute 29.4 percent, Gardner said.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2007/12/25/big_growth_in_independents_continues_among_new_hampshire_electorate/

Posted by PamB on December 26, 2007 at 08:47 AM

Conservatism/authoritarianism is dead in the water. The shift is now to a green type of party that is heavy on enviornmental conservation and retaking the commons away from private greed and plunderers.

How can we help switch the Repellant/Antipeople party status in the two party system to Green?

Voters would have the more realistic and better choice of 2 major parties: Dems vs Greens/SOS (save our forests and waters and grandkids).

Banish repubs from the 2 party status.

If Sen. Clinton is elected as the first lady president what would she do to protect and defend the rights of men, just as many great men in the past have defended the rights of women? I ask this as I am one of millions of fit fathers who are denied substantial access to their child. Would she support amending Title IV-D or another federal statute to something similar that 85% of Massachusetts voters approved here in this link -

http://www.fatherhoodcoalition.org/cpf/inthenews/2004/shared%20parenting%20initiative%20results%20chart.htm

Two Bombings Kill At Least 26 in N. Iraq
Officials Call for Increase in Security Forces

By Joshua Partlow
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, December 26, 2007; Page A14

BAGHDAD, Dec. 25 -- Two bombs ripped through a pair of cities north of Baghdad on Tuesday, causing some of the worst carnage in the country in recent weeks and revealing that, despite the relative calm that has taken hold, insurgent groups remain capable of carrying out devastating attacks.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/25/AR2007122500382.html

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Okay we had a couple of quiet months but so what! You can see the violence shifting over to other areas as the insurgency figures out weak spots. Turkey is now bombing the Kurdish area on a dialy basis. What have we gained in Iraq? General Betrayus and the GOP are liars. There is no such thing as a military solution to Iraq. They know it darn well and have even said as much. Of late, they have been misleading the public into thinking that we are on the verge of a military solution. Pure garbage! It's time for the USA to leave.

What will be Big Brother's response?

We are a Sovereign Nation
A Declaration of Independence from the USA

By LAKOTA FREEDOM DELEGATION

Lakota Sioux Indian representatives declared sovereign nation status today in Washington D.C. following Monday's withdrawal from all previously signed treaties with the United States Government.

The withdrawal, hand delivered to Daniel Turner, Deputy Director of Public Liaison at the State Department, immediately and irrevocably ends all agreements between the Lakota Sioux Nation of Indians and the United States Government outlined in the 1851 and 1868 Treaties at Fort Laramie Wyoming.

"This is an historic day for our Lakota people," declared Russell Means, Itacan of Lakota. "United States colonial rule is at its end!"
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The Lakota reservations are among the most impoverished areas in North America, a shameful legacy of broken treaties and apartheid policies. Lakota has the highest death rate in the United States and Lakota men have the lowest life expectancy of any nation on earth, excluding AIDS, at approximately 44 years. Lakota infant mortality rate is five times the United States average and teen suicide rates 150% more than national average. 97% of Lakota people live below the poverty line and unemployment hovers near 85%.

"After 150 years of colonial enforcement, when you back people into a corner there is only one alternative," emphasized Duane Martin Sr. "The only alternative is to bring freedom into its existence by taking it back to the love of freedom, to our lifeway."

We are the freedom loving Lakota from the Sioux Indian reservations of Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota and Montana who have traveled to Washington DC to withdraw from the constitutionally mandated treaties to become a free and independent country. We are alerting the Family of Nations we have now reassumed our freedom and independence with the backing of Natural, International, and United States law.

www.counterpunch.org/lakota12212007.html

To MaleParent

This is Hillary's website blog page. Sign up, ask your question. Go to the other links provided for answers to other questions.

It's really a nice website, imo. :-]
And good luck.

Conservatism/authoritarianism is dead in the water.
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TomN, I agree it's not a growing idea. It's definitely way past it's high water mark as an idea.
I don't think it's dead in the water though just fracturing. You have the religious right conservatives and the greed head libertarians. They are not seeing eye to eye anymore. There is an outside chance that the religious right conservatives would take up environmentalism as a cause ... after all, we are destroying God's creation. The greed head libertarians just don't care.

NYT on Prosecutor Purge Investigation: Don't Stop There Hotlist
by MissLaura
Wed Dec 26, 2007 at 08:02:16 AM PST

The New York Times is not ready to let go of the US attorney firings, and they're pushing for some governmental follow-through.

They acknowledge that key players have left Washington (AG AG, unnamed), that Congress made changes such as rescinding Bush's power to appoint US Attorneys without Senate confirmation, and that AG Mukasey has restricted contacts between the Justice Department and the White House. But, they rightly conclude:

These changes are important, but are not enough. Congress must hear from all of the major participants. The House Judiciary Committee has voted to hold Joshua Bolten, the White House chief of staff, and Ms. Miers in contempt for ignoring Congressional subpoenas. The Senate Judiciary Committee has voted to do the same for Mr. Bolten and Mr. Rove. The full House and Senate should affirm those votes and refer the witnesses for prosecution if they still will not cooperate.

The attorney general also must do more. There is evidence of impropriety in several recent prosecutions, including that of Don Siegelman, a former governor of Alabama who is serving a lengthy prison sentence. Mr. Mukasey needs to investigate Mr. Siegelman’s case and others that have been called into question to ensure that no one was wrongly put in jail by his department, and that anyone who acted improperly is held accountable.

The integrity of the Justice Department is precious. The fair application of the law is the cornerstone of American justice and American democracy. A halfway resolution of this scandal is not enough. It needs to be investigated vigorously and completely.

That's about right. For starters, anyway.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/12/26/1439/6144/656/426478

Hello. Is anyone on here planning on going to Denver for the big convention? I have been considering it, not to actually go inside but to just hang around and meet people to talk politics. Mike

Posted by rjsnj on December 26, 2007 at 11:20 AM

speaking of selfish LIBs:

that humvee, has ron paul stickers posted all over it!!

I need to buy an extra dozen eggs I think. LOL

Was Cheney behind the EPA decision on the California emissions waiver? Hotlist
by DWG [Subscribe]
Wed Dec 26, 2007 at 04:44:05 AM PST

There has been considerable analysis over the decision by the EPA to deny California the right to impose more stringent emissions standards on automobiles than the minimum standard imposed by the EPA. The disingenous spin from Stephen Johnson, EPA administrator, has been eviscerated here, here, and here. However, somewhere buried in the news dumps on Friday and Monday, conveniently lost in the holiday shuffle, were stories that Dick Cheney was responsible for pressuring the EPA to side with the automakers instead of the state of California.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/26/64422/719/655/426503

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Why is Shotgun Dick behind all of the truly disgusting Bush shenigans? I don't think Chimpy is the president at all. Cheney should be impeached.

speaking of selfish LIBs:

that humvee, has ron paul stickers posted all over it!!

I need to buy an extra dozen eggs I think. LOL

Posted by Ladydawn on December 26, 2007 at 11:25 AM
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Hi Dawn,

I don't think very much of Mr. Paul. He's right on the Iraq war but I find myself pretty much in disagreement on everything else. He is definitely an extreme economic Libertarian.

Posted by NewYearSoon on December 26, 2007 at 11:23 AM

I would LOVE to go to Denver again. It's a definite possibility for me. I have friends there I could stay with so that would be no problem. Plane fare on the other hand may prove difficult.
It depends who is nominated of course.

Kansas GOP Chair Sends Email Boasting of Voter Caging
By: billw @ 6:38 AM - PST

Kris Kobach, a former counsel to then-Attorney General John Ashcroft who is currently the chairman of the Kansas GOP, sent out an email on Thur entitled “Kansas Republican Party Year in Review” in which he brags of voter caging. Blue Tide Rising has the goods:

… Kris Kobach, chairman of the Kansas GOP, sent out a self-congratulatory litany of accomplishments. Among them was one particularly eye-catching item:

“To date, the Kansas GOP has identified and caged more voters in the last 11 months than the previous two years!” […]

Slate.com has the best comprehensive write-up on how the Republican Party employs caging techniques to suppress the votes of the poor, the deployed, and college students. (You know, likely Democratic voters.)

Did we mention it’s illegal? And that Kris Kobach is proud to be doing it?

Since Kris Kobach can’t expand his own party or force his own Party’s members to support his candidates he’s shamelessly trying to keep Democrats from voting instead. This is the stratagem of a desperate and shrinking party.

Someone needs to ask Kris Kobach which voters he’s caging and how he’s doing it. Someone like a newspaper editor or perhaps a Grand Jury. … (more)

More on Kris Kobach here and here (He apparently suffers from an advanced case of Lou Dobbs disease). Depending on what methods are being used in Kobach’s admitted voter caging scheme, it may very well be illegal, but hardly surprising. Voter suppression through caging lists has become a standard part of the Republican playbook to steal elections for some time now. In Sept McClatchy detailed current Republican voter caging efforts underway in Florida and Ohio to “impede Democratic-leaning minorities from voting in 2008,” and back in July PBS NOW took a look at the Republican Party’s voter caging plan “designed to keep Democrats from voting, allegedly by targeting people based on their race and ethnicity.” Watch that video here.
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UMMMM .... is anyone from the DNC out there paying attention? The GOP just admitted to a crime!

Jersey,

He's only right about the war because of the economics of it all. HE doesn't give a FLIP about the people dying over there. (jmo) I think he's sucked on one too many paint chips in his life.

AND I also saw my first IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST bumper sticker the other day too! FINALLY NC DEMS are beginning to VOICE their DISTASTE. They're all just too NICE!! (or is that even possible?) LOL

Link for previous post:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/12/26/kansas-gop-chair-sends-email-boasting-of-voter-caging/

AND I also saw my first IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST bumper sticker the other day too! FINALLY NC DEMS are beginning to VOICE their DISTASTE. They're all just too NICE!! (or is that even possible?) LOL

Posted by Ladydawn on December 26, 2007 at 11:31 AM
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Dawn,

I don't trust Paul at all. From what I know`about him, he is fairly extreme.

Hey, so impeachment is catching on even in NC ...
It's still not too late to impeach Shotgun Dick.

Here's more on the Shotgun's shenigans:

Cheney at work
By: Steve Benen @ 5:33 AM - PST

Before EPA administrator Stephen Johnson rejected California’s application to impose greenhouse-gas regulations beyond federal requirements, auto executives appealed directly to Dick Cheney. Sure enough, Johnson delayed his decision until after the VP had talked to the execs: “On multiple occasions in October and November, Cheney and White House staff members met with industry executives, including the CEOs of Ford Motor Co. and Chrysler. At the meetings, the executives objected to California’s proposed fuel economy standards.”

You can probably guess what happened next.

The US vice-president, Dick Cheney, was behind a controversial decision to block California’s attempt to impose tough emission limits on car manufacturers, according to insiders at the government Environmental Protection Agency.

Staff at the agency, which announced last week that California’s proposed limits were redundant, said the agency’s chief went against their expert advice after car executives met Cheney, and a Chrysler executive delivered a letter to the EPA saying why the state should not be allowed to regulate greenhouse gases.

As Digby put it, “Merry Christmas, California. Love Dick.”

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/12/26/cheney-at-work/

Good morning fellow Democrats. I hope everyone's Christmas and Hannukah celebrations went well.

hmm, my Mom (wise elder that she is) lol may be right suggesting a while back that Hillary should pick Obama as VP (or vice versa) to take up MOST OF THE DEMOCRATS and a LOT of the Indies.

It would pretty much guarantee a win. Don't cha think? I mean if any or even PART of these polls are correct and Hill and Obama are really that HIGH on the "I want" chart! The two would be a sure WIN? right?

They better try being nice to each other. (not that they are not) I'm about tired of the media hype that they are at each others throats. Maybe a time for a "love-in" gathering of forces?

really FREAK out the remaining 23 percent of the hostiles!

have DEMS unite for ONCE against the MINORITY PUKES!!

Good morning fellow Democrats. I hope everyone's Christmas and Hannukah celebrations went well.

Posted by BobVADemHawk-Biden2008 on December 26, 2007 at 11:40 AM
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Good morning. Same to you.

Bush and Cheney are so joined at the hip that impeaching one is the same as impeaching the other. They'll BOTH go down.
They need to drag that bill of impeachment out of committee and get on with the proceedings before anything more bad happens.
GIVE THIS COUNTRY A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
IMPEACH BUSH/CHENEY NOW!!!!

Jersey,

It would also put a spotlight on all of the Racists, Bigots and Clinton haters out there.

Ok well I have to run.

Peace & BBL

… Kris Kobach, chairman of the Kansas GOP, sent out a self-congratulatory litany of accomplishments. Among them was one particularly eye-catching item:

“To date, the Kansas GOP has identified and caged more voters in the last 11 months than the previous two years!” […]

Slate.com has the best comprehensive write-up on how the Republican Party employs caging techniques to suppress the votes of the poor, the deployed, and college students. (You know, likely Democratic voters.)

Did we mention it’s illegal? And that Kris Kobach is proud to be doing it?

Since Kris Kobach can’t expand his own party or force his own Party’s members to support his candidates he’s shamelessly trying to keep Democrats from voting instead. This is the stratagem of a desperate and shrinking party.

Someone needs to ask Kris Kobach which voters he’s caging and how he’s doing it. Someone like a newspaper editor or perhaps a Grand Jury. … (more)

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I really hope the Democratic jumps on this because there are already reports of voter caging schemes going on in Florida and Ohio. Clearly, the GOP is taking advantage that it still has the partisian hack attorneys in place and is going to try to disrupt the election on 2008. We should be filing criminal charges against the GOP.

GIVE THIS COUNTRY A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
IMPEACH BUSH/CHENEY NOW!!!!

Posted by Butte on December 26, 2007 at 11:47 AM
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Butte, works for me. I think that Cheney is operating so far outside the bounds of the constitution that something must be done to bring the executive branch back in line. Otherwise, future President's can push it even further toward a dictatorship.

Later ...

They will be in shock I'm sure. Nasty kitty litter strewn state. blechhhhhhhhhhh!

sorry lone star folks I can't stand your state
That was not nice, Dawnie!....There are 22 million of us here, and most are good folks!

Texas is the best state in the USA. No income taxes,
a right to work state, vast areas in which to live, low crime rates, etc.etc. It is the very best place to live.

"Nasty kitty litter strewn state!" How would you feel if off the top of my head I said something like that about NC? You would think that I had let my alligator mouth overload my humming bird ass! If you don't like our criminal justice system here, you have every right to voice your opinion in a civilized way. Calling Texas, a state that I am very proud of, a "Nasty kitty litter strewn state" was uncalled for and way over the top. Shame on you!!!We are the beneficiaries of a large and growing criminal elemnt, a lot of it from other parts of the country. The Texas Board of Pardons and Parole is letting criminal loose at a record rate, since we just don't have anywhere to house them. In my neighborhood, we have a 176 convicted child pedophiles within a 10 mile radius of the schools I send my 3 grandchildren to. You take care of your crime in NC and we'll take care of ours down here.

C.A. RULES PEACE OFFICER NO EXPERT ON 'MEDICAL' MARIJUANA

Panel Says Jury Wrong to Rely on Police Testimony About Defendant's Intent to Sell

Police officers who have only limited experience dealing with people who possess marijuana legally do not have a sufficient basis to determine whether such persons intend to sell it, the Fourth District Court of Appeal ruled Friday.

In a unanimous opinion, Div. Three reversed Christopher James Chakos' conviction for possessing marijuana for sale based on a lack of evidence, saying the police officer upon whose expert testimony the conviction was based had no expertise in differentiating between individuals who possess marijuana lawfully for their own consumption, and those who possess it unlawfully with the intent to sell.

Writing for the court, Justice David G. Sills said:

"Mere and undefined 'contact' with undefined "investigations" is manifestly not substantial evidence that an officer is in any way familiar with the patterns of individuals who, under state law, may lawfully purchase marijuana pursuant to a physician's certificate under the Compassionate Use Act, nor does it show any expertise in the ability to distinguish lawful from unlawful possession."

http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v07/n1490/a07.html?397

On Monday, Congress passed an omnibus spending bill that funds the White House drug czar’s ad campaign at only $60 million for 2008.

This figure is down from $99 million for 2007 ... and is considerably less than President Bush’s request of $130 million for 2008. In fact, since 2002, the lobbying efforts of MPP and a host of other organizations have helped to achieve a 66% reduction in funding for the White House’s ad campaign.

The White House’s media campaign largely consists of absurd TV ads featuring teenagers committing violent crimes while under the influence of marijuana. In 2005, an independent assessment of the ads found that they not only fail to reduce teen marijuana use, but in some cases they actually increase teen marijuana use. But in late 2006 it came out that the drug czar’s office had buried the report for a year-and-a-half — while continuing to run the ads in question!

The bill also admonishes the drug czar — and his Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP) — for travel for political purposes on the taxpayers’ dime. In the months before the November 2006 elections, the drug czar and his deputies traveled to 20 events to help vulnerable Republican members of Congress get re-elected — illegally spending taxpayer money to do so — including two trips to Nevada to oppose our ballot initiative to end marijuana prohibition entirely.

The bill chastens, “The Committees are aware of instigations of travel by ONDCP officials that may have occurred for political purposes and caution the Director and other high-ranking officials that travel should occur for official business reasons only, not for political gain ...”

Despite that delightful reproof of governmental prohibitionists, the bill unfortunately still includes language that prohibits the District of Columbia from implementing the medical marijuana initiative that voters approved with 69% of the vote in 1998.

Rob Kampia
Executive Director
Marijuana Policy Project
Washington, D.C.

The GOP is going down. A third party candidate to catch them as they fall away? And build a party to replace the defunct-dandies-in-rehab GOP. Now is a good time to plan and be ready with the alternative party. Lets help them out, in the sustainable peaceful direction that they should be heading. Or, by gum, some fascist freakazoid may appear and sweep them off their feet with xenophobic fear mongering war drumming.

They are in confusion and looking for help:
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GOP voters decry stances on illegal immigration
By Susan Ferriss -

Pat Ricutti is a diehard Republican voter, but he laments what he's hearing from GOP presidential contenders about illegal immigration.

The Fresno fruit and grape farmer gave money to former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani last February at a fundraiser. He said he won't be giving him or any other candidate a dime more at this point, though, until he starts hearing alternatives to calling for millions of illegal immigrants to be shipped off or pressured to leave voluntarily.

"We're what, the sixth or seventh largest economy in the world?" Ricutti said, referring to California. "Do they really know what it would be (like) to send all these people off? It will cause a major disruption in the American way of life."

Ricutti may be Republican, but he's also among tens of thousands of California business owners – farmers and landscapers, hotel and restaurant operators, nursing home managers and home builders – who hire immigrant laborers.

www.sacbee.com/111/story/591544.html

I wrote this post on Christmas Eve and then sat on it for awhile. Though apostate now, I was raised in the Christian tradition and found myself reluctant to publish such uncharitable thoughts on Christmas Day.

"...those who would lead mankind backwards into the gloomy corridors of a new Dark Age whose shadows are made deeper and more sinister in the harsh light of a perverted science." Winston Churchill, referring to Hitler and the Nazis. (This quote is from memory, and might not be accurate. I have not been able to find it exactly replicated on the internet even after several searches.)

What if the Chinese were putting lead in the paint on toys deliberately, in the hopes of "dumbing-down" coming generations of Americans? What if it weren't really the Chinese at all, but the international venture capitalists (the Neo-Cons) who have, according to some reports, virtually taken over Chinese manufacturing? How's that for a conspiricy theory? American democracy, which depends on the intelligence of the American people is the strongest remaining bulwark against the absolute tyranny of the rich. Are they too moral to pursue such a plan? Some historians speculate that the fall of European Rome was the result of widespread lead-poisoning from their pottery glazes. Greeks supplied the pottery, and the Byzantine Greeks remained a super-power throughout the middle ages until Turkish gunpowder brought down their walls in 1462(?). To this day, Greeks celebrate by smashing unglazed dishes. Is such speculation the road to madness for us, or to salvation?

"What Song the Syrens sang, or what name Achilles assumed when he hid himself among women, though puzling Questions are not beyond all conjecture." Sir Thomas Browne, HYDRIOTAPHIA, Ch.5

Posted by goodfoe on December 26, 2007 at 12:33 PM

gf, good people are everywhere, and there's no place like home, but IMHO, Texas is a focal point of the world's fury with this disasterous administration.

When Jr ridiculed a condemned prisoner's plea for mercy and executed her, Texans should have taken him out of office and saved the world from this insanity and carnage that he delivered it. He executed minors and retarded people too, didn't he? People question what the heck is up in Texas, why this heartless terrorism of the poor. People with money obviously get to buy their way out of this nasty system, right?

New Jersey’s banning of the death penalty is a breath of fresh air for humanity.As a 21 year old college student, I tried hard to figure out how such a cruel and primitive form of punishment is reconcilable with our ever modernizing civilization. My conclusion, not unlike New Jersey’s, was that it is indeed not. Oppenents might bash what is essentially a symbolic step, considering NJ hasn’t executed a prisoner in decades, but they are bogged down on a instrument of justice that is no longer feasable for most of the civilized world. That is why the federal government should follow suit with NJ, and completely ban executions. Then we might finally be able to put this horrific, out-dated, and ineffective measure to rest.

Good Afternoon, ALL! I hope everyone had a nice Holiday. It's truly a demonstration of the pathology of the trolls that they will sit here all Christmas Eve and Christmas Day just flinging out juvenile insults into the ether at no particular target, and spend all day and night trying to one up each other with the latest "butt" and "poo" comments directed at people who aren't even on line. It's sad and sick that they have no family or friends with which to spend the Yule time,but I can only assume that they brought that situation on themselves.

goodfoe, what I think Dawn was getting at was referring back to a post a few years ago where someone likened TX 'soil' to kitty litter because it's mostly dry clay and red dirt.

As for the number of executions going down over the past several years that can be explained in 2 words. Bush Family. Chimpy and Jebbie were having a contest to see how many people they could off and now that neither can pull the switch the deaths have declined.

Rome's Coliseum to be lit up for UN death penalty freeze

2 days ago

ROME (AFP) — Rome's historic Coliseum, where thousands of Christians were put to death during the Roman Empire, will be lit on Christmas evening to celebrate a death penalty freeze voted by the UN General Assembly.

"The Coliseum will be lit up at 1700 (1600 GMT) on this day to stress the moral and civic value of this historic decision taken by the UN on December 18 and strongly backed by Italy," a statement from the Rome mayor's office said.

This UN non-binding resolution, in view to a total abolition of the death penalty proposed by Italy and sponsored by 87 member states, was adopted by the General Assembly with a vote of 104, with 54 against and 29 abstentions.
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It could be seen from space. And the people on Mars said: "WTF was that? They're slaughtering each other right and left from overpopulation pressures and they can't even find the presumption to play God?

Bush Administration Proposes $10 Billion Christmas Present From Joe Taxpayer to Big Oil

The Bush Administration proposed a change to Interior Department leasing rules today that would massively expand the volumes of oil that companies could produce without having to pay any royalties to the federal government for the privilege of drilling on public land. The Bush Administration's own estimates are that taxpayers could lose up to $10.3 billion over the next 26 years as a result of this rule change.

President Bush repeatedly issued veto threats targeting any bill that would have re-invested funds from oil and gas in clean energy technologies, arguing that the subsidies - which were created at a time when oil was less than $20/barrel - were still necessary to promote domestic production - despite the fact that oil now trades close to $100/barrel, providing strong market incentives to prospect for new oil sources.

So Chimpy tried to slip one in under the radar on Christmas Eve when nobody was looking? Typical of that punk.

Posted by TomN on December 26, 2007 at 01:16 PM
That is absolutely correct Tom, and when Karla Faye Tucker was executed, I was one of George Bush's harshest critics. It was a brutal and inhumane thing to do. As far as taking Bush out of office, nothing short of armed insurrection could have done that. With the money and spin machine of Karl Rove, we lost! You addressed the issue in a polite, reasonable way. You did not refer to my state as "A nasty kitty littered strewn state" and I thank you for that.I don't know how many people visit this blog from Texas. I suspect it is very few. But it would only take one influential one to send the comment about " Nasty kitty littered state"to the Houston Chronicle and get it reprinted to irritate a lot of moderate and independent voters. We are trying to elect Democrats here and besides that, I just plain didn't like the lowness of it or the meanness of it. It is no way justifiable.

So Chimpy tried to slip one in under the radar on Christmas Eve when nobody was looking? Typical of that punk.

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on December 26, 2007 at 02:06 PM
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There is no end to Chimpenfurher's treachery. This is without a doubt not only the worst president in history but the most disgusting person to ever serve in office. Thank goodness the subhuman Chimp is gone soon.

Posted by TomN on December 26, 2007 at 01:16 PM

The American Judicial System is the best that money can buy.

Posted by rjsnj on December 26, 2007 at 02:17 PM

"Chimpenfuhrer"? Bwwwaaahahahahahahahaha! ROFLMAO! 12.8 months and counting....

Good afternoon all.

CNN: Bush legacy a "mixed bag"
by Chris in Paris

Is political success the same as a legacy?

http://www.americablog.com/2007/12/cnn-bush-legacy-mixed-bag.html
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Have you noticed how the right wing nuts in the media have been frantically spinning Chimp's legacy?

Let me make it simple for them:

1) He is the worst President in history.
2) He is a despicable human being - a liar, a cheat, a boor and a petulant child.
3) He has managed to be dreadful at absolutely everything from the economy to foreign policy.
4) He has shown his disdain for the American public with the terrible response to Katrina.
5) He ignored the will of the American people by escalating an occupation when he knew damn well that people wanted an exit strategy.

Get it straight right wing idiots- there is nothing to admire in George W. Bush. He is black spot on American history. It will take decades to reverse the damage he caused.

"Chimpenfuhrer"? Bwwwaaahahahahahahahaha! ROFLMAO! 12.8 months and counting....

Posted by BobVADemHawk-Biden2008 on December 26, 2007 at 02:21 PM
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Bob, somehow it fits him ... To be honest, I picked it up from a friend ... had me rolling on the floor laughing as well.

Yup, one more year to go of this Bush nonsense.

The Clinton campaign announced Wednesday that a labor steering committee member for Barack Obama was now backing Hillary Clinton in Iowa, the latest skirmish in a battle between the two Democratic rivals over supporters who have decided to switch sides.

In a statement released by the Clinton campaign, Bob McFadden of Muscatine County said he made the jump because “Hillary Clinton won’t just talk the talk – she cares about the issues important to all of us and will work to change the direction of our country.”

The two candidates have been highlighting turncoat supporters for the past few weeks. The Obama campaign had a hit two weeks ago with a much-viewed Web video of Susan Klopfer, a former Clinton volunteer in Iowa who switched her allegiance to the Illinois senator. Shortly afterwards, the Clinton campaign released its own Web video featuring several Iowa Democrats who’d supported other candidates, including Obama, but were now behind the New York senator.

The Democratic race in Iowa has been too close to call in most recent polls, with three candidates – Clinton, Obama, and John Edwards – in a dead heat for first place, although one survey released over the holidays seemed to show Clinton breaking away from her presidential rivals.

Posted by goodfoe on December 26, 2007 at 12:33 PM
I would say that is your right and opinion.

I have no loyalty to any state. That's ludicrous.

I'm sorry goodfoe, I do hate Texas. That's my opinion. I've traveled MOST of the states and that's just my own personal thought. I don't hate all the people stuck there. I did say that. Please don't be so touchy. It's only a piece of land (that happens to suck) unless you own an oil well.

Military family members share public's division on Iraq war, Bush
Polls: Almost half say invasion was a mistake

By Gregg Zoroya
USA TODAY

Close family members of U.S. troops are split on whether the Iraq invasion was a mistake, and 55% disapprove of President Bush's job performance, according to USA TODAY/Gallup Polls focusing on immediate relatives of servicemembers.

"They've maxed out on the troops. You've got guys who are over there on their fourth or fifth tours. It's ridiculous," says Jeanette Knowles, 40, of Mountain Home, Idaho, whose brother, Jeff, served a tour in Iraq with the Oregon National Guard.

Knowles, who calls herself a Democratic-leaning moderate, says her disapproval of Bush stems from his handling of the war.

http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20071226/1a_bottomstrip26.art.htm
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Let's face it. No matter where you started out on Iraq, at this point most people have gotten tired of it. The money that is being spent is criminal. That is money we need to grow our economy into new industries, fix up our ailing health care system and patch up our infrastructure. We simply can't continue to float more debt. The amount of interest we are paying out right now is too high.

I don't want to hear anymore about how "wonderful the surge is" or what a genius Petraeus is. He may be a competent General but so what, it isn't going to wind this occupation down now is it? Even Ryan Crocker admits that we seem to have replaced one set of problems with another. Now, we may the issues of what too do with these Sunni militias and we have the problem of Turkey bombing Kurdistan. What we need to concentrate on is reconciliation with the goal of removing the vast majority of American troops from Iraq AND no permanent bases.

although one survey released over the holidays seemed to show Clinton breaking away from her presidential rivals.

Posted by peaceman on December 26, 2007 at 02:31 PM
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That poll appears to be an outlier. The polling company has consistently shown larger than normal leads for Clinton.

Go Edwards (sorry for the plug!)

Posted by rjsnj on December 26, 2007 at 02:25 PM
I agree, RJ,...totally!....later....

btw

I hated TX long before there was as GWDouche in charge.

and I also hate Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi and a dozen other states. It's not personal. Unless you make it that way.

shame on YOU! :-P

ANKARA, Turkey — Turkish warplanes hit eight suspected Kurdish rebel hideouts in northern Iraq on Wednesday, the third cross-border air assault in 10 days, Turkey's military said.

The warplanes struck in an "effective pinpoint operation" targeting eight caves and other hideouts being used by the separatist rebels of the Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK, the military said in a statement posted on its Web site.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20071226/turkey-kurds/

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Excuse me but at what point is the obnoxious Chimpenfurher going to say to Turkey that it's enough? So far they claim to be limiting it to PKK targets. What if they make a mistake and hit one of the large cities like Kirkuk and kill innocent civilians? It's time for Chimp brains and the United Nations to step up and tell Turkey to quit it.

Posted by rjsnj on December 26, 2007 at 02:25 PM
I agree, RJ,...totally!....later....

Posted by goodfoe on December 26, 2007 at 02:41 PM
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Hi goodfoe,

I think we'll have to get used to the right wing media spinning for the Bush legacy the next year. Clearly, they have alot to be ashamed of and therefore alot to try to bury.

Congrats Sen. Clinton!! You GO GIRL!

Clinton gets nod from black leader

By SHANNON McCAFFREY, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 46 minutes ago

ATLANTA - Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Rodham Clinton received another boost from a prominent black leader on Wednesday as the head of the National Black Caucus of State Legislators endorsed her candidacy.

Georgia state Rep. Calvin Smyre said the New York senator has "the strength and experience" to bring about needed change.

"Hillary is ready to lead this country on her first day in the White House, and her agenda to expand economic and educational opportunities for all Americans will be a welcome change from the last seven years of presidential neglect," Smyre said in a statement.

Clinton is locked in a battle for the black vote with Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, who is trying to become the nation's first black president. That fight is heated in Georgia where blacks have made up nearly half the vote in the state's recent Democratic primaries. Georgia's presidential primary is Feb. 5.

Posted by goodfoe on December 26, 2007 at 02:11 PM
Why don't you comment on that post too while you're at it Dawn?

Connecting immigration and the mortgage crisis?
By: Steve Benen @ 11:00 AM - PST

There’s shameless right-wing pandering, and then there’s this level of shameless right-wing pandering.

Janice Easley’s fury over illegal immigration boiled over Saturday as she confronted Republican presidential hopeful Fred Thompson at the Music Man Square museum.

She said she recalled a film about Mexicans who wanted to take over California and New Mexico. Calling illegal immigrants a taxpayer burden, she wondered whether Americans could march in the streets of Mexico and demand welfare. When Iowans call up the power company, she said, “everything is in Spanish; it’s sickening.”

“You are so, so right,” Thompson responded. English should be the national language, he told the retiree, and immigrants bear some of the blame for the home-loan crisis. “A lot of them couldn’t communicate with the people they were getting the mortgage from,” he said.

I’ve seen the Republican field link immigration to national security (terrorist will sneak across the Mexican border), and link immigration to the culture war (Roe v. Wade allegedly made immigration necessary), but linking immigration to mortgages and sub-prime loans? That’s a new one.
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Freddy Cheeseball! What a total loser. I am almost hoping he is the GOP's candidate. He would be very easy to beat.

now don´t ya´ll git yer jets a goin caus I´s a born this way. a real liv mountn mama. We´s a littl on the wierd side.

More thuggery from the Bullies in the Chimp's cage.

David Addington Pushed To Eliminate Job Of National Archivist Who Challenged Cheney

More here with extra linky goodness:

Ex-Archives Security Chief: Cheney Self-Exemption 'Remarkable'

I don't hate all the people stuck there. I did say that. Please don't be so touchy. It's only a piece of land (that happens to suck) unless you own an oil well.

Posted by Ladydawn on December 26, 2007 at 02:37 PM
So, now Texas sucks!...You don't know when to quit Dawn..as far as me being touchy, why don't you put a sock in that big mouth of yours?

Ministers say they didn't endorse Obama

By SEANNA ADCOX, Associated Press Writer 27 minutes ago

COLUMBIA, S.C. - Two black South Carolina ministers listed by Barack Obama's campaign as endorsing his White House bid say they did no such thing, and at least two others affirmed their support only after being contacted by campaign workers when questions were raised about their endorsements.

Earlier this month, Obama's campaign released a list of what it said were nearly 130 senior pastors in South Carolina endorsing his run for the Democratic nomination. But when contacted by The Associated Press, several ministers said they have yet to decide who will get their vote and were unclear how they ended up on the Illinois senator's list.

"I really haven't decided to endorse him yet. I was thinking about it," said the Rev. Clifford Gaymon of Zion Hill Missionary Baptist Church in rural Clarendon County.

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ugh huh.

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on December 26, 2007 at 02:53 PM
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Simpy unbelievable story. There has never been a government like this one and hopefully there never will be again. The complete lack of respect for decorum, tradition, constitutional separation of powers is appalling.

Posted by goodfoe on December 26, 2007 at 02:55 PM

what the hell makes you think your opinion is any more important than mine?

get over it.

it's a free blog for dems. I'd never tell you to shut the fk up like you just did me but what the hell.........

I´m on your side goodfoe, she´s gone way over the limit.

and I also hate Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi and a dozen other states. It's not personal. Unless you make it that way.

shame on YOU! :-P

Posted by Ladydawn on December 26, 2007 at 02:45 PM
I guess you don't mind losing votes in those states either....keep it up!

Posted by Ladydavvn on December 26, 2007 at 03:00 PM

I guess the moderators are OFF today. u must be really hard up.

Clean up on 5! clean up on 5! dawnie didn´t get her meds!

Posted by Ladydavvn on December 26, 2007 at 03:00 PM

I guess the moderators are OFF today. u must be really hard up.

look at the wierd shit your posting

Posted by goodfoe on December 26, 2007 at 03:03 PM

I think I will. Keep it up. Since YOU think I'm UP to something other than stating a fact of MY own opinion for decades!!!

Go ahead and tell me to shut up again.
Maybe bring your gun with you.
Threaten me perhaps?

lmao like I control anyone's vote? NOT.

Posted by goodfoe on December 26, 2007 at 02:11 PM
I notice that you didn't bother to comment on that post of mine. Tom expressed his opinion in a responsible way and I respect him for that. You did not.
You,re right about one thing Dawn, you do have a lot of hate in you for a lot of places and people. Too bad!

Dawnie, you have absolutly no right to go off on goodfoe like that. you are wrong,wrong,wrong. SHUT UP dawnie.

Operation Condor - South America's Gladio...

Italy is demanding the arrest of 140 members of Operation Condor, which was a secret assassination team created by six governments in South America during the 1970s. These neo-fascists, right wing terrorists targeted left leaning opponents of the military dictatorships in South America as well as peace activists and even religious leaders who dare question the torture tactics of the various governments. Condor was put together in order to make sure that no one got out alive. If a target escaped one country, they would be hunted down in any of the remaining five should they go there. Here is the basic summary of the news out of Italy:
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Milton Friedman's economic plan was forcefully implemented into these countries with the help of Kissinger and banks and businesses -that made a killing. What good is an economic experiment that relies on the repression of civil liberties, torture, and murder to gain its ends?

The legal trappings are now in place in the US for just such an economic transformation if any crisis should occur to justify a martial law declaration and roundup of undesirables.

www.counterpunch.org/lendman12172007.html

(AFP) - The leader of the world's Anglicans slammed "human greed" in his Christmas sermon, saying it threatened the Earth's fragile environmental balance. Doctor Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, told worshippers at Canterbury Cathedral in south-east England, that humanity needed to protect the world created by God.

People should treat each other and nature with "reverence", the Church of England leader said.

"More and more (is) clearly required of us as we grow in awareness of how fragile is the balance of species and environments in the world and just how our greed distorts it.

"When we threaten the balance of things, we don't just put our material survival at risk; more profoundly we put our spiritual sensitivity at risk -- the possibility of being opened up to endless wonder by the world around us." ...

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=071225124807.xf6rxoak&show_article=1

My compliments to the Most Reverend Archbishop of Cantebury for his thoughtful and insightful Christmas remarks. If you get time, click on the comments links and look at what the conservatives had to say and on Christmas Day no less.

Hey, there's nothing wrong with "Pride of Place". I like Austin and San Antonio. Houston is a mess of hodge podge development due to there being no zoning laws. Other than the entire State being a pollen factory I don't mind it. it could be worse. It could be Indiana (JUST KIDDING!).

lmao like I control anyone's vote? NOT.

Posted by Ladydawn on December 26, 2007 at 03:07 PM
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Dawn and goodfoe, I been to Texas several times. and it's not that bad. It's all a matter of taste what states you like and don't.

So, I humbly suggest - let's lighten up gang ... after all it's the holidays. No sense starting a "civil war" over a state just because of where Chimpy hangs his pointy hat.

Posted by goodfoe on December 26, 2007 at 03:12 PM

I rarely comment on every post
I see you have a troll friend?

I was NOT talking to you initially "notso" goodfoe.
YOU drew me into this ......... I had no memory you lived in TX.

It's an O P I N I O N why do you care?

They are like A holes. Everyone (including apparently YOU) have one!!!

dpd

Indiana also SUCKS!

I never said you can't have pride. I don't care what anyone else feels or does. I was only voicing my freedom of expression like MOST of you do here.

There are some CRAP states and there are some GREAT states. And MOST states are a little of both. SO What?

My compliments to the Most Reverend Archbishop of Cantebury for his thoughtful and insightful Christmas remarks. If you get time, click on the comments links and look at what the conservatives had to say and on Christmas Day no less.

Posted by BobVADemHawk-Biden2008 on December 26, 2007 at 03:14 PM
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Bob, the ArchBishop's comments were very good. The conservatives comments on this story once again show their painful ignorance.

It's all a matter of taste

exactly Jersey.

I think I will. Keep it up. Since YOU think I'm UP to something other than stating a fact of MY own opinion for decades!!!

Go ahead and tell me to shut up again.
Maybe bring your gun with you.
Threaten me perhaps?

lmao like I control anyone's vote? NOT.

Posted by Ladydawn on December 26, 2007 at 03:07 PM
You are not even worth responding to now Dawn. I hope you find some peace and happiness in your life. I will not respond to you again, so have at it! You don't demean me or the state of Texas with you comments, you only demean yourself.

Posted by goodfoe on December 26, 2007 at 03:25 PM

finally

Bob,

You got in the last licks on that one. Good comment.

I worry about the pathology in some of these right wing churches. There is an element of violence and hatred in them that doesn't belong in religion. I suspected for a long time that some of the pastors in these churches are aligned with "skin heads" and "white supremists". They seem to have taken up their bigotry and hatred. There was a good artcle in The Nation on this point. I'll post the link if I can find it again.

afternoon Dems.

I just don't get it. WHY do we hear all this bitching from Repugs about paying taxes that help fund social programs, YET you NEVER hear them complain or write their Congressmen about $555 Billion worth of taxes to pay for this illegal Occupation ! They would not even notice any social programs, SS or Medicare if they did not have to pay for this shit!

CRAWFORD, Texas - President Bush, still voicing concern about special project spending by Congress, signed a $555 billion bill Wednesday that funds the Iraq war well into 2008 and keeps government agencies running through next September