Impeach Chimpy and Shooter

Good afternoon by the way. Get a load of this one:

9/11 Commission chief alleged to have massive conflict of interest, secret ties to White House
by John Aravosis (DC) · 1/31/2008 10:51:00 AM ET · Link

Because what we need surrounding 9/11 is more reason to believe there was a conspiracy. Seriously, the Commission has already done a lot to undermine its credibility - including Kean being involved with that awful rewriting of 9/11 history from ABC, and Hamilton refusing to say boo about it - to the weird deception from the Pentagon and the FAA, both of which tried to deceive the commission. And now we learn that the chief of the Commission is alleged to have been secretly talking to Karl Rove and had his own massive conflicts of interest. More from ABC and the blogger who got the scoop.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/01/911-commission-chief-alleged-to-have.html

Here's one on the economic front. Perhaps the recession already started?

Jobless claims jump
by Chris in Paris · 1/31/2008 09:43:00 AM ET · Link
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It's a good thing Republicans are fighting so hard for rebates for families making up to $300,000 in order to accept a few million dollars worth of unemployment benefits. They really are a shameless bunch and prove once again that they don't have an ounce of compassion in their bones. If only regular Americans had the benefits of members of Congress but they don't. Now the unemployed have to figure out how to get by thanks to the economic destruction that the GOP left in their wake.

With all of the news coming out on the Bush/GOP economy, it's no wonder famed investor Jim Rogers is predicting this recession could be worse than others.

"Conceivably we could have just had recession, hard times, sliding dollar, inflation, etc., but I'm afraid it's going to be much worse," he says. "Bernanke is printing huge amounts of money. He's out of control and the Fed is out of control. We are probably going to have one of the worst recessions we've had since the Second World War. It's not a good scene."

Rogers looks at the Fed's willingness to add liquidity to an already inflationary environment and sees the history of the 1970s repeating itself. Does that mean stagflation? "It is a real danger and, in fact, a probability."

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Later ...

Good afternoon Dems!

the dan the smuck who is troll

Posted by MichelleLaw on January 31, 2008 at 02:53 PM

yes, and it is tame in comparison to some of the things posted overnight.

hi Michelle

One of Clinton's partners in a Yucaipa fund is the Dubai Investment Group, a company closely linked to Sheik Mohammed bin Rashid al-Maktoum, Dubai's ruler. Clinton and Maktoum have a warm relationship, and the sheik, along with other Middle Eastern leaders, was a major contributor to Clinton's presidential library.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/105650/page/2

Do we really want a president who is owned by the Middle East?

no kiku i want president who fight for the people not the corperation

Well, I'm at a seminar this week, so I don't have a chance to "stop by" during the day like I do during my regular job. But, it's lunch time here so I figured I'd hog a computer and indulge myself for a bit...I can only take so much war-mongering at a time.

Ok, so reading today about Nader's exploration of another candidacy. Do the Republicans pay him? He knows that he's not going to win, only that he is going to suck votes from the Dems in vital states. What is the deal with this guy? I mean, run for local office or something, but don't mess it up more for the rest of us!! I think I everyone who is dedicated to electing a Democratic president should hit his website and tell him not to run (polietly, of course). He botched it before, let's keep that from happening again.

Posted by BlueinIdaho on January 31, 2008 at 11:33 AM

Thanks! Let me know how the speech goes. I hope we get that fire going again!

the trool call us commies

I doubt this will change anything, but it will probably convince some people that we're winning.

Al-Qaida commander in Afghanistan killed

Kiku, Don't you mean do we want ANOTHER president owned by the Middle East?

Do we really want a president who is owned by the Middle East?

Posted by Kiku on January 31, 2008 at 03:04 PM

Too late by two, at least.

www.thinkingpeace.com/Lib/lib006.html

nope i dont work Michelle

Movement for Justice, radical thought.
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A Sibel Edmonds Timeline
"We Can't Afford to Let Them Spill the Beans"

By GARY LEUPP

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Edmonds is tirelessly and fearlessly campaigning for Congressman Waxman, now chair of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, to hold hearings. She says that FBI agents and even former Turkish intelligence officials are willing and able to validate her charges. But the congressman hesitates, perhaps fearing the storm of indignation that explosive evidence will produce in a country sick of its politicians, the lying neocons, and the war. Should they discover that, while disseminating disinformation about foreign nukes in order to fearmonger and build support for aggressive war, some of these officials were actually peddling nuclear secrets-committing treason while receiving honors for their patriotic service---the response could be explosive.

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Perhaps the Grossman story will gain some traction. Maybe it will prove egregious enough that the tide will turn. Maybe Bush's last year of office will see the neocons' thorough exposure, humiliation and defeat.

Or maybe Waxman, Rep. Conyers and others in positions to honestly confront this most mendacious of administrations will continue to dither, feeding the assumption of the most vicious, cynical and corrupt that they are indeed above the law. And earning the contempt of those naïve enough to expect serious congressional oversight of a rogue regime.

i dont work

Good afternoon, everyone.

Posted by BlueinIdaho on January 31, 2008 at 11:33 AM

Blue,

The best thing to do with Nader is just ignore him. We have indulged that man's over-inflated ego for way too man decades.

He needs to go back to being an consumer safety advocate. Goodness knows with all our products being manufactured overseas in countries with no oversight, someone has to do it.

If you must contact him, please ask him to do something worthwhile instead of pleading that he not do something.

Since losing their majority status after the 2006 elections, House Republicans have endured 28 retirements or resignation announcements, and many have occurred in competitive districts such as Davis's. Va.'s Davis To Leave Congress at End of Term

So, another one bites the dust. But, the question remains: can we afford to lose the moderate Republicans in the competitive districts?

ima on social security i did work for while untill i had problems with my back and quit my job

Posted by MichelleLaw on January 31, 2008 at 03:08 PM

Just wait until Harpo shows up with his diapers, anus and feces fetishes.

Well, its back to the grind. I'll bbl. Have a great afternoon!

http://www.serveoutloud.blogspot.com

hi Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo

Posted by MichelleLaw on January 31, 2008 at 03:08 PM

A least sally* and his ilk are better than The Others who have been coming in here lately to cause division among concerned Democrats who just want us to offer the best candidate possible.

I'd rather deal with those who are obviously Republican malcontents who take it out on us because the are angry with their irresponsible, incompetent GOP masters.

Hiya, dusty.

Under House Protection
Unimpeachable

By JAMES ROTHENBERG

So now we have a situation where we have wrecked two countries (one cannot express this enormity without sounding cavalier). We have kidnapped, tortured, indefinitely detained, cluster-bombed, eavesdropped, and murdered ourselves into moral low ground. And both parties went along. So it is best to be quiet about certain things. To extend on a remark of a not-quite-brave ex-General, ex-State Secretary, "If you break the White House, you own it!"

What would the Democrats be impeaching but an extension of themselves? The whole establishment might come down. The first political rule is to find the advantage in a situation so the decision was made by party hierarchy to play out the season and let the White House, and by extension the Republican Party, stew in the juice of their Republican war (best consumed before 11-04-08).

Every now and then will they utter a few words about troop withdrawal or timetables or babble about "standing up" and "standing down", but really they are just "standing around". Waiting for their turn. Iraq is left hanging as a "mistake" waiting to be corrected. No more than that.

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Over half the US population says impeach. The message is loud and clear but is not getting through to these derelicts of duty. A good house cleaning with lots of sunlight seems to be in order. Kick the complicit and conniving bums out. They are murderizing our nation and constitution for what?

bbl

Posted by margotb822 on January 31, 2008 at 03:26 PM

margot,

I'm all for losing Repubicans like McCain and replacing them with any form of Democrat as long as they stop the bleeding up at the Supreme Court.

IMHO, McCain isn't a very good Democrat or Republican. His stance never gets anything done...just gets him a lot of press attention which he seems to thrive on.

He sometimes reminds me of one of those old codgers who bores everyone insisting that they listen to him tell the same story over and over again.

But he's only 72. He's way too young to be acting that way. I know people in their 90's who are not as self-absorbed (and have good reason at that age and stage of decline and illness to be that way).

Worse yet, he's stuck in a Vietnam War mentality that is encouraging the neocons to take risks that this country doesn't need to take militarily...at the expense of weakening it.

The domino theory was proven wrong twice now. He wants to extend it all over the world?

bbl.

Mad as a Hatter.

Hello Blue,

Thanks, I think that was the first time I ever admitted I was in the 80% that supported these liars. That was tough to say and hurt and is true.

You and I go back so many years (6-7 years) at this web-blog. I think you know what I mean. I have never admitted that I supported this band of liars for 6-7 years. ...but it's true; I did support, Bush initially to prosecute the War.

I am a Democrat in the old fashion War-hawk way, of using intelligence rather than might. I have to say I lost my way when 911 occurred!! I think many good people got duped!!

I have to ask the people here to forgive me. You need to forgive those that got duped by the liars. Otherwise you are looking at only a group less than 20% of the USA population! That’s not a Winning solution!!!

Posted by Kiku on January 31, 2008 at 03:04 PM

Isn't this article about Bill Clinton? Are you saying that everything Bill did or does is transferable to Senator Clinton?

Here's the straight talk: McCain says people's jobs are gone because he doesn't know how to get them back, he promises more wars because he doesn't know how to avoid them, and he says businesspeople aren't qualified to lead because he has no idea what they do. McCain isn't a disaster because he fights the party, he's a disaster because he just doesn't get it.

Mike, Austin, TX (Sent Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:53 AM)from MSNBC blog...

Posted by YesWeCan on January 31, 2008 at 03:34 PM

Yes,

Amen. It's pretty scary when you start finding common ground with the other side of the aisle.

Mike, you explained it better than I.

McCain doesn't know what he's doing. He's worse than Bush becasuse he doesn't even have a handler like Cheney. Lieberman, who has been holding his hand, is even dumber.

People need to start looking at this man's behavior. He's still crafty enough to cause trouble but he's not competent to run anything.

Here's my straight talk: This man needs to be checked out for first stage dementia.

later.

ANOTHER Pug leaving the House. What is it now 30? Pretty soon they will hit the 20% mark for Pug open seats.

MO-Gov, MO-09: Hulshof to retire and run for Governor

This man needs to be checked out for first stage dementia.

Posted by SandyH on January 31, 2008 at 04:03 PM

I guess that just makes him the most 'Ray-gun' like!!!

Isn't this article about Bill Clinton? Are you saying that everything Bill did or does is transferable to Senator Clinton?

Posted by BlueinIdaho on January 31, 2008 at 03:59 PM

I think that is the key to the controversy. Nobody knows.

And until Senator Clinton can somehow put this issue to bed, it's going to plague her and her campaign...and even perhaps her presidency.

I wish I had some sage advice to give her. But then the linger doubt suggests that she might not want the truth to be told.

We can win of lose sometimes.

Posted by marymac_memphis on January 31, 2008 at 04:06 PM

mary,

Ray-gun Lite?

bbl for real.

My guess is that Fox News guru Roger Ailes has been reaching for the Tums more often than usual early in the New Year, and there are lots of reasons for the hovering angst.

Let's take an extended multiple choice quiz. Right now, which of the following topics is likely causing the discomfort inside Ailes' Fox News empire?

A) CNN's resurgence as the go-to cable destination for election coverage.
B) The incredible shrinking candidacy of Fox News' favored son, Rudy Giuliani.
C) The still-standing candidacy of Fox News nemesis and well-funded, anti-war GOP candidate Rep. Ron Paul.
D) The Democratic candidates' blanket refusal to debate on Fox News during the primary season.
E) Host Bill O'Reilly being so desperate for an interview from a Democratic contender that he had to schlep all the way to New Hampshire, where he shoved an aide to Sen. Barack Obama and then had to be calmed down by Secret Service agents.
F) Former Fox News architect and Ailes confidante Dan Cooper posting chapters from his a wildly unflattering tell-all book about his old boss. ("The best thing that ever happened to Roger Ailes was 9/11.")
G) The fledgling Fox Business Network, whose anemic ratings are in danger of being surpassed by some large city public access channels.
H) Host John Gibson's recent heartless attacks on actor Heath Ledger, just hours after the young actor was found dead.
I) Fox News reporter Major Garrett botching his "exclusive" that Paul Begala and James Carville were going to join Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential campaign, and then refusing to correct the record.

I'd say it's A, B, C, D, E, F, and G. (I doubt Gibson's grave-dancing or Garrett's whopper caused Ailes a moment's concern.)

http://mediamatters.org/columns/200801290001

Posted by YesWeCan on January 31, 2008 at 04:06 PM

Point well taken.

But turn off the caps. I've already lost a good portion off my hearing from attending rock concerts most of my life.

Posted by YesWeCan on January 31, 2008 at 04:08 PM

I do not select my candidates based on what their significant others do or have done. Nor do I select them based on their brother, sister, mother, father or choice of canine companion. I select them based on their beliefs, values and abilities.

In other words, I don't give a rat's behind what Bill did or didn't do with a cigar or with a sheik.

THE RICH MUST PAY THEIR SHARE

We have drifted into "fiscal fascism," and the only way out of it is for congress to stop ass-kissing and start ass-kicking. The Constitution is a marvelous, flexible document which provides the people with myriad ways out of any seemingly unsolvable dilemma. For instance, the answer to the Bush-Bernanke-billionaire bail-out is for congress to set up a progressive tax-increase on incomes starting at, say, $2,000,000, (the Congressional Budget Office coulld easily provide the best numbers) that would entirely offset any decrease in interest rates and damage to the dollar that the Fed and the Treasury can impose.

In other words, turn the tables: when the executive siezes powers that work to the detriment of the people, congress should counter with legislation that negates that seizure.

This would, of course, require a veto-proof majority and courageous leadership. Pelosi, Levin, et al. would have to be replaced, and bargains made with enough truly patriotic Republicans to over-ride the greedy machinations of the Whitehouse and its corporate Cabinet, but it is POSSIBLE if you demand it. Get active!

Ray-gun Lite?

bbl for real.

Posted by SandyH on January 31, 2008 at 04:09 PM

Ray-gun liKe - having dementia makes McClaim the most like the senile Ronnie Ray-gun!

All of the thugs keep invoking St. Ronnie of the neo-cons, so I guess it makes sense that they would nominate someone who is showing signs of dementia, thus making him the 'most' Ray-gun liKe! :-0

From Senator Bernie Sanders:

The State of the Union Bush Forgot to Talk About

I listened intently to President Bush's State of the Union speech. Frankly, I had a hard time understanding what country he was talking about, what reality he was talking about. Certainly, if the "state of the union" refers to what is happening to the shrinking middle class of this country, and how we as a people are doing, the president had almost nothing to say that rang true. In fact, the speech just reminds us once again how far removed from the reality of ordinary life this president is, and how little he and his administration know about what is going on with the vast majority of Americans.

http://aiss.enews.senate.gov/t/31320/2810191/690/0/

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What a hideous speech given by the disgusting Chimpenfurher. He should be impeached just for making that speech.

Iraq Hotlist
by georgia10
Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 08:33:34 AM PST

For the first time in five months, month-to-month deaths in Iraq have increased.

As of today, 37 American soldiers have been killed in Iraq. That is the same number of troops that died in May of 2003, when President Bush smiled in front of a "Mission Accomplished" banner and declared that major combat operations in Iraq were over.

That's two more than the number of deaths in May of 2005, when Vice-President Cheney insisted that the insurgency was in its "last throes."

That's six more than the number in March of 2006, when the President insisted that "Iraqis will continue to take more responsibility for their own security, and fewer U.S. forces will be needed to complete the mission."

And that's the same number as the number of American deaths in November of 2007, when, according to the President, the Iraqi government was supposed to "take responsibility for security in all of Iraq's provinces."

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/31/113334/056/990/428202

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So much for the bullcrap that the "surge" is working!

The surge is a failure.
Bush/Cheney are failures.
The GOP is a failure.
Conservatism as a philosophy is a failure.
The biggest failures of all are these neo-con-artists who are keeping the nations in a state of endless "war". That is simply disgraceful and will not address terrorism in a sane manner.

Carl Bernstein: Hillary Clinton and NAFTA
By: John Amato on Thursday, January 31st, 2008 at 9:01 AM - PST

While discussing who John Edwards supporters would vote for on CNN, Carl Bernstein made an interesting statement about Hillary’s take on NAFTA.

Bernstein: Hillary Clinton’s economics, the ones she preached to her husband in the White House are much closer to John Edwards then you would think. She argued with Bill Clinton when she was First Lady, her husband, she said ‘Bill, you are doing Republican economics when you are doing NAFTA.’ She was against NAFTA. And if she would somehow come out and tell the real story of what she fought for in the White House and failed in a big argument with her husband she would end up moving much closer to those Edwards followers.

Bold is mine.

Ray-gun liKe - having dementia makes McClaim the most like the senile Ronnie Ray-gun!
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Hi Mary,

McClaim ... LOL.

I still sorta like McKook. He is a whacko GOP nut case who is fond of endless war.

"I select them based on their beliefs, values and abilities."

Welll said, Blue! As it should be.
However, I do believe that the contributions made by Sen. Clinton while 1st Lady should not be minimized, simply because she was not acting as an 'elected' official at the time. As the 1st Spouse, she made a difference. She contributed, not just on the healthcare issues, but also on budget matters and on domestic policy issues, that we know about! That experience is invaluable.
I respect and admire all of the accomplishments of both she and Sen. Obama and will be proud to have either represent me as the Democratic Candidate for POTUS!

She argued with Bill Clinton when she was First Lady, her husband, she said ‘Bill, you are doing Republican economics when you are doing NAFTA.’
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Hi Cyn,

Well, that's good to hear. What a mess this country is. We are in debt up to our eyeballs. We don't make much of anything. We go from one financial bubble to another. It just can't hold out. I think we may be in even worst fundamental shape than in the 1920's right now.

I love old age.....my mom makes me laugh.

So does John McCain.

Posted by Michigan_Dave on January 31, 2008 at 04:35 PM

I LOVE your sense of humor! Sometimes you are so wry that I have to read your posts a couple of times to get 100% of the humor. I am so GLAD to have you back!

RJ: McKook - sounds like a good name for him. I like it better. If it's okay with you, I'll start using it!

BOY, you trolls and the media really want to get obama elected!! Wonder Why?

John McCain -- "I hate the gooks" Hotlist
by Inky99 [Subscribe]
Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 01:07:21 PM PST

Yes, he actually said this:

"I hate the gooks," McCain said yesterday (NOTE: this was in 2000) in response to a question from reporters aboard his campaign bus. "I will hate them as long as I live."

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/31/155948/449/358/447124

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Wow did he actually say that! There goes the Asian vote ...

Let's clue McKook in (since he is clueless):

1) Many people from Vietnam now live in this country. This is an insulting statement to say the least.

2) Vietnam is now a trading partner so be careful buster ...

I think McCain is suffering from a form of PTSD. It's a shame he probably was never treated for it.

This man can not be president. He is incompetent.

I think we may be in even worst fundamental shape than in the 1920's right now.

Posted by rjsnj on January 31, 2008 at 04:40 PM

Clark Medal (Most prestigeous prize for Economics - like Fields medal for math) Winner, Dr. Paul Krugman (Head of Econ. Dept. at Princeton) agrees with you as does Nobel Laureate for economics Joseph Stiglitz (Head of Econ Dept at Columbia).

RJ: McKook - sounds like a good name for him. I like it better. If it's okay with you, I'll start using it!

Posted by marymac_memphis on January 31, 2008 at 04:42 PM
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Mary, use away! Clearly, McCain is the main opposition. Mitt Flipper seems to be running out of steam and Huckleberry appeals to a narrow audience.

conn, why am I a troll if I am for Obama? Which of his policies have you so against him, or are you just willing to do whatever it takes to get a woman in the whitehouse? What does Hillary stand for that you like?

Well, later ...

Posted by connfloyd on January 31, 2008 at 04:46 PM

What trolls?

Posted by GregL on January 31, 2008 at 03:05 PM

Just like you to tiptoe onto the blog... :)

Posted by BlueinIdaho on January 31, 2008 at 03:29 PM

I get to a point, ya know? I suppose I could take my own advice and talk about something of actual substance...but I don't want to get branded a troll when I start to disagree with everything Bob writes :)

Posted by GregL on January 31, 2008 at 04:51 PM

Greg, you may be many things but a troll is not one of them no matter how many times you disagree with me. ;-)

Now I have never chatted online before except when I first owned my "webb TV" when I was still dialing up with AOL. I was sick this weekend and was off work. I have to admit it can be addictive. I have a weird
work schedule. I am a nurse and work 3 12's night shift. The point of all this is I have noticed some people must not sleep and they are on here all the time.

Its amazing how we all can sit and watch the Republican debates last evening and learn absolutely nothing about it for use in our own party. This constant crap from the Obama camp directed at the Clintons is wearing me and alot of my fellow Dem friends down. I watched the Repub debates last night and listened to a CNN comentator refer to REAGAN DEMOCRATS. Im afraid this will be evident again in 2008. For the first time in my life, I find my party that I so have trusted and faithfully backed since I was 18 falling apart. Like that old song " HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN, The Sky's are blue and clear again", my fellow dems are living in dream land. Like the characters in the Wizard of Oz walking thru the field of Poppy's in a daze.. OH BROTHER. WAKE UP.. I NEED ACTION. I NEED ANSWERS. I NEED DIRECTION. I NEED EXPERIENCE from a candidate.. I dont need lolly pops and gum drops. Visions of daisy and tulips. Peoples lives and futures are at stake.. 32 MILLION OBAMA? Why not put that toward people needing health care. HIV people here in the states losing help. HEY! Put it to the cost of medicine that on a monthyly basis cost more than a small PLASMA tv.. GIVE ME A CANDIDATE who I know where they have been, who I know what to expect and get. Dont let me find out after the November elections that all I have left is VOTERS REMORSE... If Clinton is not the nominee, In my heart, I cant in good conscience for for anyone else in this party. MCAINE DEMOCRATS?

Posted by YesWeCan on January 31, 2008 at 04:54 PM

Are you married? Sheesh, I can control my cats more than I can control my spouse and one managed to urp on the carpet this morning. No matter how much Fox Noise wishes to brand this candidacy as "Billary", it is her alone that should be judged, not by the deeds or misdeeds of Bill.

DemDan. keep heart. And don't try to threaten or hold your vote hostage. I too want to fight. I too think Hillary is the best choice. But that is plain bullshit. I want to apologize to any Obama supportes here. I am sure that the Dem base will proudly support either of them

Posted by Michigan_Dave on January 31, 2008 at 04:56 PM

I'm not in anyone's camp at this point due to the unfortunate retreat of *ahem* the best candidate, John Edwards. Be that as it may, I have little respect and patience for those that pile crap on someone else to make their candidate look prettier. I also have very little patience for dredging Senator Clinton through the mud for the actions of her spouse. It is the same as the mudslinging of Senator Obama for the religious affiliation of his birthfather. Truthfully, it makes me want to join the independents.

Posted by DEMDAN on January 31, 2008 at 05:03 PM

Handy Tip: If you put all your marbles in a very secure netted bag, they will not fall out as you stomp off from the playground.

Posted by DEMDAN on January 31, 2008 at 05:03 PM

To Dan: BITE THY TONGUE!!! :-)
The alternative to voting for Sen. Obama may end up being to vote for 4 more years of what we are living with or worse. Do you honestly believe that this country can survive 4 more?

Posted by Michigan_Dave on January 31, 2008 at 05:09 PM

To Dave: The alternative to voting for Sen. Clinton may end up being to vote for 4 more years of what we are living with or worse. Do you honestly believe that this country can survive 4 more?

If it sounds like I am saying the same thing to both of you - I am. A vote for a 3rd Party is the same as a vote for the GOP - remember the votes that Nader took from Gore?
Are either of you honestly ready to vote GOP? Do either of you think that which ever candidate the THUGs nominate will be better? I don't. That is why I will vote democratic, regardless of who we nominate and I will do it with pride! I hope that you will do the same.

Posted by Michigan_Dave on January 31, 2008 at 05:16 PM

Troll! Do you have that really long pink hair that stands straight up and reminds one of a 70s pillow? I still have one of those...it's dressed like a diver...

Posted by Michigan_Dave on January 31, 2008 at 05:20 PM

That's kindof what I was suspecting/hoping. He would make a fab VP and a shoe-in for POTUS in eight years. Just my .02 if I'm still entitled.

bbl.

Both camps should at this moment be courting Fmr. Sen. Edwards for VPOTUS!
Not simply for the votes that he can bring to either of the campaigns but for what he can and will do for this country! He is a fine man who cares deeply for his country. I am proud that he is a democrat.

To everyone: remember that "Trolls" are sometimes paid by how many 'responses' that they generate - so do not respond in any way to anyone you think might be a troll. Do not mention their name in any post, as this might get them money! Cut them off!

Sorry to interrupt but I just saw the funniest thing looking up something on Wikipedia that's totally unrelated to politics. The irony was that it led me to politics. Specifically, under the heading of "cults"

Bush Administration http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_groups_referred_to_as_cults

was listed. I kid you not.

Mich_Dave.
Although my husband may disagree sometimes. I do not multiple personalities have. I think if you look at the content of my post you will see that my bullshit theories are all mine.

Mich_Dave.
Although my husband may disagree sometimes. I do not multiple personalities have. I think if you look at the content of my post you will see that my bullshit theories are all mine.

A country is judged on it's ability to care for it's weak and unfortunate...

Until we accept that and start doing that..we are...the ugly america.

Posted by Michigan_Dave on January 31, 2008 at 05:28 PM

That is the best thing that you have ever posted! It is exactly how I feel! I'm glad that it was posted to me!

Posted by YesWeCan on January 31, 2008 at 05:42 PM

I understand that you prefer Sen. Obama to Sen. Clinton; however, please stop with the denigration and name calling. We get that she is not your candidate; but, please remember - she could end up with the nomination, just like Sen. Obama could. What are you going to do then? Are you going to 'throw away' your vote on a 3rd party or are you going to vote for McKook of dementia land or Flipper? Please remember that any democrat will be a million times better for this country than anything that the neo-con owned thuglicans have to offer.

My Dearest Dems,

I once again plead with you all. Please focus your enthusiam for you candidate, by singing his or her praises. Both of the candidates running for the Democratic Nomination, have taken stances on issues which you can be proud of and are worthy of debate.

Saying that, one candidate is in this guys pocket, or that another candidate is in this country's pocket, is unproductive. Reject the negativity. Like the old song goes, "Accentuate the Positive..."

Keep up the good fight, and if you can, end each post with a message of unity.

"It's clear that Senators Clinton and Obama, want to bring the conflict in Iraq to an end. They both want to end the senseless loss of american lives, and the loss of your money, in a feeble attempt to police a civil war.

I'm voting for a Democrat in November!"

(see it's easy, try it)

That's the view from the Cheap Seats,

Steve

By the Way

I'm Voting For A Democrat in November!

I think that the trolls may be from the respective camps. Inner big-brother. Well I think the scripted rebuttals, things they teach as a telemarketer; and 1.
2.
3. Ect...
are a good tale-tale.

"The poor got poorer"
By the way - that is an incorrect statement. According to Joseph Stiglitz (Nobel winning economist), the poor made more gains under the Clinton administration than they ever have - EVER in the history of the country!
In fact, the rate of increase in wealth for the poor during the Clinton years was far greater than the rate of increase in wealth for the rich.
In fact, you should probably read the following article about how the economy performed in the 90s vs. how the economy has performed since the dubbya took over.

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/12/bush200712?currentPage=1

Posted by DEMDAN on January 31, 2008 at 05:34 PM

...At least with the Clintons I know what Im getting...

Indeed we do. Nominating Sen. Clinton will galvanize a fractured GOP, throw the vast majority of independent voters back into the GOP camp, further alienate the African-American community, and give us four to eight more years of a polarized electorate. Yes, we know what we're getting.

Good evening, Dems !

Just back from vacation again, and never listened to a word of TV nor read a newspaper. Amazing things have happened. (also sad things like Edwards backing out)

Big night tonight. History in the making.

I caught a blip of Schwarzennager backing McCain today!! Does anyone really give a shit who Schwarzennager likes? A class B movie actor like Reagan! Makes me LMAO! And this BS that McCain is some kind of hero, is really starting to get me! The guy joined the military and did his job! PERIOD! He did not do it very well and got picked up as a POW. The fact that he was offered Early Release by the enemy should make people suspicious as to WHY would that be? This old dude could bring his Living Grandmother around with him, and it will not mean he is any younger than the 72 Very old years that he is!!

I am back and ready to kick some Republican ass. Let's get busy !

Good Afternoon Democrats,

1) I heard on MSNBC the evangelicals are threatening to support a 3rd party member or stay at home because the republicans have forsaken them. Those x-tian reich are such a small minority group that I do not think they should be allowed into the democratic or republican party!! Let them form their own party. They are the most divisive polarizing hate group within this nation today.

2) I keep hearing the list of republican leaving the party because they do not wish to be in the minority. It’s nice to know white males have the opportunity to quit being in a minority group. The rest of us who are real minorities cannot quit because of our birth color, race or gender have to continue to improve our lives. You see we cannot quit who we are as people. Another group of republican who betray their cause and abandon their belief because it’s difficult. None of our candidates left us, even when it became difficult.

"paying even more for health care"

This too is incorrect. In fact, most of what you have said on this blog is absolutely FALSE.

Health care insurance family premiums while Pres. Clinton was in office was $6,230 while they are now $12,106.

Posted by PamB on January 31, 2008 at 06:02 PM

PAM!!!!!!!
Welcome home! You have been missed!

Posted by Growingold on January 31, 2008 at 05:49 PM

I, too, am voting for a Democrat in November.

Short gains don't count - I want fundamental change and Obama brings that - Hillary does not.

Posted by YesWeCan on January 31, 2008 at 06:00 PM

So Mr. Genius Economist,

Can you point to the differences in these candidates voting record, regarding the economy, that would make a case for your agrument? Or is that just a bunch of baseless retoric?

Inquiring minds want to know?

Steve

I'm Voting For A Democrat In November!

MaryMac thanks for the good read. I bet the Econimist did even bother to read the article before responding with his scripted lines.

Posted by PamB on January 31, 2008 at 06:02 PM

We're glad to have you back, Pam. Welcome home.

Please cite your sources as I did. I don't for one minute believe that you are an economist! I think that you are nothing but a liar! Prove your work - identify your self or shut the f*#k up!

YesWeCan,

You are very confused. During Bill Clintons term, there were repulicans in congress or did you forget. They were the ones negotiating with Hillary Clinton, or did you forget.

Remember the government shut down due to the republican congress?

It is the legislature that has to write the bill to pass over to the president, isn't that how it worked. How is it you can blame the first lady?

That is so interesting how you have completely confused the role of who and what the various parts of the government were engaged in!?!?

Can you please clarify your understanding of who writes the legislative laws and bills?

Do you remember who was in Congress at the time?

Your baseless republican garbage just have no foundation!!!

By the way, if republicans are so great then where is our health bill? Into our 8th year of republican rule by George W. Bush all we have is $52.7 trillion debt in our trust fund.

At least under Bill Clinton's administration they were paying the bills and the social security trust fund was solvent.

What the heck are you talking about?

I'm with a hope23, Im a x-ray tech and do 40-hour weekends, but i've been on this blog in the middle of the night and their still on her spewing their slime. Today has been extra slimey. Yesterday we kind got them to quit, not that way today, they are really in to the back-biting today. I have to say theyve baited me a couple of times im sad to say!!

I'm with you hope23, Im a x-ray tech and do 40-hour weekends, but i've been on this blog in the middle of the night and their still on her spewing their slime. Today has been extra slimey. Yesterday we kind got them to quit, not that way today, they are really in to the back-biting today. I have to say theyve baited me a couple of times im sad to say!!

I'm with you hope23, Im a x-ray tech and do 40-hour weekends, but i've been on this blog in the middle of the night and their still on her spewing their slime. Today has been extra slimey. Yesterday we kind got them to quit, not that way today, they are really in to the back-biting today. I have to say theyve baited me a couple of times im sad to say!!

Hi Marymac, Thank you. Missed you guys too.

Anybody watching Cafferty on CNN? LOL. He's talking about Giuliani's collapse, and it is because of his wife and the estrangement of his kids. guess they do not fit the picture of 'family values'! Are there ANY Republicans who do? Most divorced. Most perverted. Most sickos!

They are talking about McCain can 'reach across the table' as a reason for him. I don't WANT these low class Trashy Republicans being reached towards! I want the party purged and eliminated. Let's try it with all Democrats for a change. See how far we get.

Further - if your statement about how we are poorer (since the 70s), well it is as a direct result of THUG lack of leadership. Aside from the HUGE gains (the biggest percentage wise in HISTORY) made under the stewardship of Pres. Clinton, the country has gotten poorer from Supply Side Economics.

I will argue with you no more. You are obviously a fake and phony and I have now exposed you. You are a worthless POS.

New thread, folks....

Steve

I'm Voting For A Democrat In November!

Posted by Growingold on January 31, 2008 at 06:08 PM

Hi Steve!
Good to see you!

Thank you, VA Bob.

good to be home.

Watched on TV today also, how scary it is that China owns so much of us, we are so indebted to them, the trade deficit is like $387Billion dollars to their good.

Too bad enough Americans are too ui-informed to understand this is another Big Bush Blunder !

What are you looking at?

Fellow Democrats, I ask this question for a very good reason. Exactly, who is reading this post? Those of us who post here on a regular or semi-regular basis know there are about a hundred, or so, of us that fall into one category or the other. We average anywhere between five and twenty posts per day. Most are fairly innocuous. We’ll give our take on the news of the day, bash the Republicans as they bash us on their web sites, and forge relatively strong professional respect and bonds with our fellow bloggers. Of course, we do not agree all the time. Someone once said politics is like ordering pizza for a large group of people. While you’ll agree that your proverbial pizza will have a crust and cheese, all the other toppings are open for debate and you’ll never be able to make everyone happy.

But who else is reading this post? The DNC, to the best of my knowledge, does not post statistics relative to the amount of visitors to this website. I do not see a counter of any sort. Therefore, we bloggers don’t know exactly. And that bothers me.

If we knew that this was a private access blog, that no one could read this without an access code(s) that would be one thing. We wouldn’t, or shouldn’t, have to worry about what we said under those circumstances because, it would only be us here or it would have little or no bearing in the real world just like the conversations you have with your friends or loved ones. But that is not the case.

Before I go any farther, let me state for the record that I, or any of the rest of us bloggers, to the best of my knowledge, are not fully sanctioned members of the DNC. We are simply here to express our views and support the Democratic Party and \ or its ideals. We created our accounts and, to date, the moderators have not sent us away into the vast depths of cyberspace. Having said that, we are posting on the web log of the Democratic National Committee and that should carry some responsibility.

At the beginning of the twenty-first century, perception is everything. In a nation where over half of the electorate does not know their two U.S. senators and over 75% do not know their House Representative, is the average person who comes here really going to distinguish us bloggers from the DNC? I think not. For those that disagree, go watch a segment of “Jaywalking” on the Tonight Show or listen to Glenn Beck’s Moron Trivia. Granted, they air the worse case scenarios however, I would point out that these people displayed have the same right to vote in the United States that you and I do. It’s darn scary, isn’t it?

Therefore, I would ask my fellow, regular DNC bloggers to be mindful of what you post over the course of the ten months, or so. The primaries are here. And while the General Election is not scheduled until November, every vote counts. Before you click that Post button you should ask yourself two questions. Could this post get any potential votes? How many potential votes will this post lose? Like it or not, agree with it or not, we DNC bloggers are the de facto faces of the DNC to the lurkers who do not comprehend that we are ordinary citizens like them posting on one of millions of web logs. It is my recommendation that, when we get fed up with President Bush’s latest assault on reason or Vice-President Cheney’s latest attempt to subjugate the planet, we vent our anger on a partisan blog such as DailyKOS or Atrios. I have an account at the Politico. They are more fitting places to call an a**hole an a**hole. Here at the DNC blog, we should try to take the same tact that our elected leaders do. We can respect the offices without respecting the office holder. We should show some civility to our fellow Americans, when deserved. Trolls deserve no civility because they do not give such.

In the four years that I have posted here, I have found that most of my fellow Democratic bloggers are thoughtful, intelligent people who want more than anything else, a better America to leave to their progeny. That is the goal of every decent American citizen. It would appear that half of us have one way to accomplish that and half have another. Such is the nature of politics. We settle our disagreements on strategy in the voting booths across this great nation of ours. And because we settle those agreements in the voting booth, every vote counts.

Today, I challenge my colleagues to take their political commentary to a new level. Let’s leave behind the cheap shots and name-calling and replace it with the thoughtful, insightful dialogue we are capable of. Let’s give new bloggers the benefit of the doubt and engage them in a respectful manner until they actually say something that is not respectful. And let’s kick the snot out of the GOP in 2008! After all, the world is watching…

GOD LOVE YOU, DEMDAN, I HAVE NEVER HEARD IT SAID SO ELOQUENTLY!!!

Rudy Exits With Temper, Mean Streak in Check:
Margaret Carlson

Commentary by Margaret Carlson

Jan. 31 (Bloomberg) -- Like millions of New Yorkers, Rudy Giuliani chose to die in Florida.

Now that's funny!

Steve

I'm voting for a Democrat in November!

Let's try it with all Democrats for a change. See how far we get.

Posted by PamB on January 31, 2008 at 06:15 PM

Damn I'm glad that you are back!!!!!

Connie: Hey - thank you for pointing out about getting baited. As you can tell from posts above - I just got baited. Thanks for the reminder but sometimes, I just can't let the lies stand. I hope that you are having a better day today. I saw your post to me last night about your day. I am very lucky when it comes to my job. Most of the people that I work with are nice - even the ones who are republicans. (Boy did that hurt to admit!) :-)

YesWeCan,

I can understand you wish to elect Obama, but you need to get your fact correct. If you are representing Mr. Obama and disclose the kind of garbage you did here, you are most likely going to hurt Mr. Obama's candidacy than help him?

...Are you just a muckraker out to destroy Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton?

You need to get yourself better informed otherwise you are more likely to hurt your candidate than help.

Remember, if you are new to the political Blog, we have been here and heard most of this stuff for about the Clintons for 16 years!!! You need to get factual before stepping on your own manure!

That is the best thing that you have ever posted!

Posted by marymac_memphis on January 31, 2008 at 05:42 PM

mary, maybe not the funniest. I think you missed Dave's copy machine assininity. Still lol.

marymac you must be a troll. All you do is rip on people who have not been on here for a long time or disagree with you. I thought we Democrats were always proud of our "large tent" where everyone was included. I guess that was the old Democratic party, the ones who cared about principles more than power.

Watched on TV today also, how scary it is that China owns so much of us, we are so indebted to them, the trade deficit is like $387Billion dollars to their good.

Too bad enough Americans are too ui-informed to understand this is another Big Bush Blunder !

Posted by PamB on January 31, 2008 at 06:19 PM

Pam,

Welcome back. That number will exceed 500 billion, as a direct result of the economic stimulus package now before the Senate.

I think it was during the livestrong candidate forum that when questioned on the economy, Congressman Kucinich said something to the effect:

When I was a child, we thought if we dug a hole deep enough, we'd get to china. As we grew older, we realized that was a myth. At least it was a Myth until the current administration came to power.

We've mortgaged the future of our children, to finance a war that could never be won.

I keep telling my daughter to drop spanish and take up cantonese.

Steve

I'm Voting for a Democrat in November

Demdan,

Your right I don't think that YESWECAN is economist. But since neither are you. Let's see if we can get the opinion of someone who is an an economist. Someone who actually knows something about the economy... maybe someone who was a Federal Reserve Chairman,... maybe someone who is a Democrat... maybe someone who is widely respected... Who or who would that describe? Oh yeah, Paul Voker, Yoy know, he's the guy who today endorsed Obama over Clinton.

BlueinIdaho

I agree, it is hard to wade through all this stuff. But, it's very important to understand who we are electing. We have to look past the spin of Hope and Change and Experience to try to understand who will be the best leader for our country. Holding hands and singing kumbaya, or sitting down for a beer, or voting on issues like gender and race, will not cut it this time.

And, yes, that means looking at Rezko, and into the donations and deals swirling around President Clinton's Foundation. It means verifying their current policy position with voting records. It means questioning the meaning of experience and judgment. It means asking what we need in this next generation, and then asking who is best suited.

Mudslinging is part of investigating, it's part of exposing who a candidate really is.

As an Obama supporter, the first thing I did when Obama was accused of stirring racism with the memos was to investigate and put a timeline together of what really happened (on my blog). When Rezko came out, I read every article I could find to understand the whole picture, so that I can confidently defend Obama, or not.

I hold the same standard to looking at Hillary. I want to know who she is, how she reacts, how far will she go, who is funding her, what does her funding mean.

I don't want to approach either candidate with blinders on, this election is too important.

To your previous question, yes, what Bill does is a reflection on Hillary. Especially when they run on a campaign that says they are a team, they discuss everything.

The article on the New York Times said that Bill was making statements and commitments that went against US foreign policy, and Hillary's position in the Senate.

Another article (MSM, can try to dig it up if necessary) I've read on Hillary's health care plan says that Bill was negotiating away different pieces without discussing it with Hillary. Hillary's comment, literal quote from the article: "What the **** are you doing?", Bill had to retract his commitment and apologize.

The NYTimes article says:

Nearly a year earlier, Mr. Clinton had advised Dubai on how to handle the political furor after one of that nation’s companies attempted to take over several American ports. Mrs. Clinton was among those on Capitol Hill who raised the national security concerns that helped kill the deal.

That does not bode well for Bill knowing the boundaries. We saw it again when he was campaigning. 2 for 1. We can't take the good without the bad. Best to figure that out now.

The NYTimes article implies something quite frightening. I'm connecting the dots:

Guista wants to mine uranium in Kazakhstan:
will have money, wants uranium.

Nazarbayev in Kazakhstan runs has a stranglehold on the country, and has quashed political dissent. He has uranium, wants validation in the international community (which is against US foreign policy and has been sharply criticized by, among others, Hillary).

President Clinton wants money, has incredible international influence.

There are three meetings,

1) Clinton and Guista,

2) Guista and Nazarbayev, and

3) Nazarbayev and President Clinton: according to Kazakhstan news releases, Clinton declared that he hoped it (the meeting?) would achieve a top objective: leading the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, which would confer legitimacy on Mr. Nazarbayev’s government..

What happens next:

1) Guista gets to mine uranium;

2) Bill gets money:

a) Guista donates $31.3 million to President Clinton's foundation that had remained a secret until he acknowledged it last month.

b) Guista co-produces a gala 60th birthday for Mr. Clinton that featured stars like Jon Bon Jovi and raised about $21 million for the Clinton Foundation;

c) More recently Guista pledged to give the William J. Clinton Foundation an additional $100 million.

3) Nazarbayev:

a)walked away from the table with a propaganda coup. After Mr. Clinton expressed enthusiastic support for the Kazakh leader’s bid to head an international organization that monitors elections and supports democracy. Mr. Clinton’s public declaration undercut both American foreign policy and sharp criticism of Kazakhstan’s poor human rights record by, among others, Mr. Clinton’s wife, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York.

b) In December 2005, Mr. Nazarbayev won another election, which the security organization itself said was marred by an “atmosphere of intimidation” and “ballot-box stuffing.”

After Mr. Nazarbayev won with 91 percent of the vote, Mr. Clinton sent his congratulations. “Recognizing that your work has received an excellent grade is one of the most important rewards in life,” Mr. Clinton wrote in a letter released by the Kazakh embassy. Last September, just weeks after Kazakhstan held an election that once again failed to meet international standards, Mr. Clinton honored Mr. Nazarbayev by inviting him to his annual philanthropic conference.

b) Mr. Dzhakishev, the Kazatomprom chief, said he traveled to Chappaqua, N.Y....to discuss Kazakhstan’s intention — not publicly known at the time — to buy a 10 percent stake in Westinghouse, a United States supplier of nuclear technology. Mr. Clinton told him that he would not lobby for him, but Mr. Dzhakishev came away pleased by the chance to promote his nation’s proposal to a former president. Mr. Dzhakishev said he had a vivid memory of his Chappaqua visit, and a souvenir to prove it: a photograph of himself with the former president. “I hung up the photograph of us and people ask me if I met with Clinton and I say, Yes, I met with Clinton,” he said, smiling proudly.

The lies: Both Mr. Clinton and Mr. Giustra at first denied that any such meeting occurred. Mr. Giustra also denied ever arranging for Kazakh officials to meet with Mr. Clinton. Wednesday, after The Times told them that others said a meeting, in Mr. Clinton’s home, had in fact taken place, both men acknowledged it.

It is time to take the blinders off. Hillary has done some good work for kids and women, and wants to continue. Bill is using his influence from the White House by holding meetings that plan to sell our ports to Dubai, and discuss selling our our nuclear technology to Kazakhstan.

Mr. Clinton has vowed to continue raising money for his foundation if Mrs. Clinton is elected president, maintaining his connections with a wide network of philanthropic partners.

Just what parts of the US will he sell off for kickbacks to his Presidential Foundation?

Dearest Obama Supporters,

From all the demographic reports that I have read, the typical Obama enthusiastic supporter are young and of color. That means you did not experience or live through the Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush Clinton, Bush presidencies. Many seniors have live through all the Swift boat mess and disinformation from the Republican Party. Many of the disinformation has been refuted.

For you young supporter of Obama to reach into the republican grab-bag of trash and attempt to go on a negative campaign of Mrs. Clinton, you better have your source and information correct. By engaging in and resorting to republican swift-boat propaganda, you will turn off anyone that lived through the Clinton years, that more than 60% of the democratic population.

Remember Mr. Clinton still have 70+% approval rating (Nov. 2007) as a President of USA from the general population.

Get your information correct or you will damage your candidate!!

If we really believe that ANY politicians are squeeky clean we are really blind. What we have to do is look at the whole record and choose between the available players. Obama has SOME things ,like Rezko that are concerning, however when you compare it to Clintons list it is minimal. I will vote for Hillary, with my nose pinched shut if I have to, but I think anyone who believes she can escape the Republican slime machine with her dignity, much less the Presidency, is deluded.

Justaguy,

I know Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama have faults and they are my candidates. My brother has more character flaws than either one of them but I still love him. So if I can put up with my brother with all his flaws, it is easy for me to see the good these people can do for America.

To those Obama supporters:

Please stop your amateur attempt to go negative on Mrs. Clinton. You’re starting to sound like the guy who goes to the Vatican and yell slander at the Pope; it’s not very endearing and you are not going to get many converts. Remember her husband did many good things during his candidacy and still has 70+% approval rating from all Americans!!!

Stop reaching into the republican swift-boater magic bag of last century’s propaganda, we have heard most of it and it’s not very enduring.

Could someone please tell me what Obama has said, or done that is so negative? If you ask most Americans I am sure they would say the Clintons, especially Bill, are causing most of the trouble in this race.

YesWeCan and Kiku and Justaguy,

I gave you fair warning. You are starting to sound like the village idiot who ran into the vatican to yell profanity at the pope.

Obama did nothing wrong. It's your actions that is causing the problem. Get it through your head!

If you are aiding and abeding the swift-boaters it is not a character that I like.

The reality of the NYTimes article is just setting in:

Bill props up a leader who uses underhanded elections and opposition suppression with recognition that gives the leader legitimacy.

In exchange, he earns $150,000,000.

Didn't we just see the Clinton's try to disenfranchise the voters in NV? And, with all due sympathy to the people in FL and MI, isn't she trying to break a previous agreement she made to have access to the delegates?

How many times has she lied to us during the election? Obviously, with all the power it will bring them, their ends justify their means. Are their ends our ends? Do our ends justify their means? Win at all costs?

I will give up RvW before I give up Democracy.

I'm ranting. Tear apart at will.

ANOTHER DEMOCRATIC DEBACLE

Since 1972, Democrats haves been very good at nominating their worst candidate and surest loser for the general election! The list is memorable: George McGovern in 1972 with Republican dirty tricks on Ed Muskie helping, Michael Dukakis in 1988, John Kerry in 2004. WHEN WILL WE EVER LEARN? Well, it’s time for another debacle and an election that only the Democrats could lose! With about one minute of thought, it’s clear that the Republicans can smear Barack Obama with their standard weapon of fear so bad that lofty words and debate will be meaningless. Osama will be lucky to get 35 % of the vote. The Islamic candidate:

Barack HUSSEIN Obama
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Barack HUSSEIN Osama
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After hearing this 10,000 times, who would you vote for?

Yup, the New York Times, the great Republican spin machine.

OLBERMANN SPECIAL COMMENT TONIGHT!!

afternoon with clients, then dinner with family, then early evening back at work prepping for tomorrow, and now finally some free time to catch up on any new "informative" posts on the issues. Anything interesting come to the fore while I was otherwise occupied?

Listening to Olbermann now....ouch!

Dan Abrams now covering misstatements and blunders of McCain V Romney and then Obama V Clinton. This should be interesting...

I wonder if this is our same "Kristen?" Her blog profile says she is in Pinellas County FLORIDA (not west coast as she claimed last night on the PB Rescue Open Thread)
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Pity the Nation
By Kristen - Oct 2nd, 2007 at 3:35 pm EDT
A poem by Lawrence Ferlinghetti read on Democracy Now! (Pity the Nation):

Pity the nation whose people are sheep,

and whose shepherds mislead them.

Pity the nation whose leaders are liars, whose sages are silenced,

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Is it possible that there could be TWO people registered here with the exact same username? Hmmmmm. NOT.

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And on her profile here (About the Author) it says she is a high school student and too young to vote (but is married? with little ones? Ok maybe that profile was posted four years ago as she claims and now she is out of high school, married and a parent).
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My Story: I am a high school student and too young to vote, but that doesn't mean I'm too young to make a difference!
Birth Date: June 30th
Issues: Civil Liberties; Civil Rights; Economic Growth; Education; Election Reform; Energy Policy; Environment; Good Government; Healthcare
Registered to Vote: No
Party Affiliation: Unaffiliated
Political Identification: Progressive

Posted by FloridaDemToo on February 1, 2008 at 12:02 AM

I'm sure I already did this once before and something went wrong when I tried to post it. It took me 45 minutes to state my opinions. Since I don't want to spend that much time saying the same thing again, I will summarise:
AS A CANADIAN, I didn't like the Bush-appointed Ambassador threatening us with economic reprisals if we didn't support the invasion of Iraq.
Secondly, I think the U.S. should be a global leader, not a hindrance to the need to reduce pollutants into the atmosphere.
Thirdly, PLEASE, Democrats, pull together to get your candidate (whomever it is) into the White House in November!!!!!!
From a concerned foreigner, I am
yours truly,
FrancesH

I have voted for the democratic ticket since I was 18. Now I find myself ashamed of being a democrat. Where not the one's whose suppost to play the race card, right? I have decided to longer consider myself democrat. We are suppost to be the high minded ones, instead were acting like scum. Here is nice man, yes, a black man who was just trying to serve his country. I was lead to believe we were the party of higher ideas, well it does not look that way now. It has been the Republicans who gave a high ranking position in administration to someone of color not the us. Is this party really going to nominate someone who used the old race bating trick, switch one black vote for ten racist white ones. IS THAT OK, IT JUST POLITICS! I hope many African Americans ponder how this party has treated them in this primary and decide for themselves if the democratic party is really nothing more than a scam. So long to the party of equality. YA RIGHT!