Thank you, Michael!

RATS! I posted the FL Pledge on the other thread @ Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on March 28, 2008 at 02:29 PM

I hope that puts a cork in the "rules are optional" crowd. Life has NEVER worked like that, and it shouldn't start now.

Good afternoon, all.

Is this pie in the sky thinking or what?

GOP looks to 'McCain Democrats' David Paul Kuhn Thu Mar 27

A new analysis of March polling data suggests that John McCain's cross-party support surpasses that of either Barack Obama or Hillary Rodham Clinton...

news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080327/pl_politico/9229

People are coming out in droves to vote for Democratic candidates yet the pollster are analysising this to be a vote for McCain?

They really think Democrats angry with the Republicans would cross over and vote for a third Bush term? Hell, I'd vote for Hillary just because I know it would make Republicans cringe to have Bill in the White House again.

bbl.

Scooby Doo,

I site doesn't have all of the rules on it. Do you know where the actual 2008 primary rules could be found? I am still searching and still come up with NOTHING. It is classified or something?

dean spoke, are hillary and barack listening?

i sincerely hope that barack and hillary both take a shower to remove the sling of mud and muck each has thrown against each other. the main issues, the economymire and iraqmire, are being made 2nd and 3rd on the networks/papers. their dog-cat fight is front and center. and a party divided is good news for the mccain camp who's repub is not up economy 101 and for a 100 year war. but, those two issues will stay off the burner until they both head dean's warning... the demo party base will implode. then we'll be stuck with a repub who doesn't understand economics 101 and will continue the bush 100 yr war. hillary and barack, wake up. mccain doesn't need karl rove's help. you're doing the dirty work for karl. he must be lovin' it!

Cubilist:

asshole: –noun Vulgar. 1. anus.
2. Slang. a. a stupid, mean, or contemptible person.
b. the worst part of a place or thing.

–adjective 3. Slang. stupid, mean, or contemptible.

It's what you are. But, if you ever creep around my dog named puggles, he will chew you a new one.

Here are the videos of Governor Dean's appearances this morning plus some summaries. CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS...gee, he should be tired. Great interviews, he is so logical. And so fair to all involved.

Howard Dean on the TV today...all over.

Best comment:

"I am going to stand up for the rules, and I know I'm doing the right thing most of the time because I've got both Clinton people and Obama people mad at me," he said."

I hope that puts a cork in the "rules are optional" crowd.

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on March 28, 2008 at 02:42 PM

You know better than that! No one here ever moves on.

May as well lighten the mood and laugh.

Posted by jenar on March 28, 2008 at 02:57 PM

So now signed Pledges are optional too? You must be a whiz at contracts.

Sep 1, 2007 4:02 PM Clinton Campaign Statement

The following is a statement by Clinton Campaign Manager Patti Solis Doyle.

"We believe Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina play a unique and special role in the nominating process.

And we believe the DNC’s rules and its calendar provide the necessary structure to respect and honor that role.

Thus, we will be signing the pledge to adhere to the DNC approved nominating calendar."

Responses to the Four State Pledge Letter 2008
Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, South Carolina
August 31, 2007

(Notice how she was the LAST one to sign the contract?)

Cub,

My point to you all afternoon has been that you have constantly been post negative comments about Hillary, but when I or anyone else post something about Obama you get angry and like a grade schooler call names. Regardless of whether or not the statements are correct or not (I pulled it right off the Hillary website) your proved my point. The mud slinging is not just one sided and it does need to stop!

Ironically, america1st is right on!
Lets focus on McCain instead.

I must admit that it has been fun though!

Scooby Doo,

I am not asking for signed pledges. I am curious about the rules that I can't seem to find a copy of. I would like to read them myself.

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I WOULD FIND A COPY OF THE 2008 DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY RULES?

Regardless of whether or not the statements are correct or not
Posted by jenar on March 28, 2008 at 03:11 PM

It's not regardless. They are lies and I should be chastised for proving them wrong. Get your facts straight first. Don't repost the same crap over and over again when it has been proven to be wrong.

It sounded like you jsut called me a grade shcooler. Is that another example of name calling?
You're right about two things though, I am smart and it has been fun.

Some of you act like the playground bully determined to get your space on the merry-go-round. Grow up and stop thinking you can win by intimidation and name calling.

Posted by puggles on March 28, 2008 at 02:04 PM

Cubilist:

asshole: –noun Vulgar. 1. anus.
2. Slang. a. a stupid, mean, or contemptible person.
b. the worst part of a place or thing.

–adjective 3. Slang. stupid, mean, or contemptible.

It's what you are. But, if you ever creep around my dog named puggles, he will chew you a new one.

Posted by puggles on March 28, 2008 at 03:01 PM

You are such a hypocrite.
Calling me an asshole and your dog is going to bite me, is that name calling and intimidation?
Pug fuggles get it right. I am acting like an asshole.

So how's that glass house doing?

Posted by SandyH on March 28, 2008 at 02:40 PM

Sandy, I feel sorry for GEN Petraeus. He is not political and, to me, gives the appearance of not wanting to be. He knows he doesn't have enought troops there to quell the violence and secure the country yet he is under orders fromt he White House not to discuss that. I still say it would take upwards of 500K troops to lock down and secure that country however, no amount of security will make the Iraqi government get up off its dead arse and settle their nation's differences. SECDEF Gates and GEN Petraeus have done a much better job than GEN Casey and SECDEF Rumsfeld yet, it is the White House who has mandated troop levels.

That song and dance by President Bush that he is letting the military run the show in Iraq is pure rubbish. Every decision made by the White House concerning Iraq has had political undertones. And every soldier knows that to publicly question his CIC, especially in a time and theater of armed conflict, will usually result in a request for resignation of commission or retirement.

In closing, the fault of the Iraq debacle, beginning to end, belongs to one man, and one man only; President George W. Bush, the Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces.

Posted by jenar on March 28, 2008 at 03:17 PM

why don't you email the DNC and request a copy. There is a handy little 'contact' button at the top of the page.

something about a white house aide resigning is breaking on msnbc....

moving on...
Hagel disputes McCain’s claim we can ‘win’ in Iraq: ‘Then we’ll be there forever.’

In an interview with CNN, Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) took issue with John McCain’s frequent declarations that we must “win” in Iraq. “This isn’t a win or lose,” Hagel said, adding:

We shouldn’t frame this up as a win-or-lose because, when we do that – and this is where I have a major disagreement with McCain, then on that basis we’ll be there forever.

Jenar, have you read through this?

Highlights of the 2008 Rules

it's on the DNC website

Cub,

There is a difference between calling you a grade schooler and telling you that "LIKE a grade schooler you call names." That IS what grade schoolers do. Adult people should have some kind of restraint...

and what you are doing is "smart?"....I don't think so!

The new schedule is as follows:

* Iowa holds the first-in-the-nation caucus on January 14.
* New Hampshire holds the first-in-the-nation primary on January 22.
* Nevada conducts a caucus between Iowa and New Hampshire on Saturday, January 19.
* South Carolina holds a primary 1 week after the New Hampshire primary on Tuesday, January 29

The regular window will open for all other states on the first Tuesday in February -- February 5, 2008.

Presidential Candidate Sanctions on the Window
There is a new rule that imposes new sanctions on presidential candidates. If a state, any state, violates the rule on timing/the window, presidential candidates will face sanctions if they campaign in that state. Examples of campaigning include: making personal appearances in the state, hiring campaign workers, and buying advertising and so on.

Currently, the only punishment for states that violate the window was on State Parties. This new enforcement provision recognizes that presidential candidates must also bear a responsibility in enforcing the window or face sanctions.

Highlights of the 2008 Rules

You probably won't find any of this on your favorite candidate's site, nor from Taylor Martian or Jerome Armstrong. Get a clue, then get a life, then get used to the idea that Dr. Dean IS following the rules and all the breath holding and whining you do won't change the FACT that Hillary knew full well what the rules were, (as did FL and MI), chose to break them, knew the punishment, and was given SEVERAL warnings and opportunities to abide by the rules. THEY ALL chose to disenfranchise their own delegates. NOT the DNC.

She "won" ZERO delegates. Give her the ZERO that she deserves and move on with your life.

Hey, I know. At the All-Star break let's change the rules so that the Cubs and ONLY the Cubs get 10 outs per inning! That'll be cool.

(They will still lose most of the games, but then we can change the rules again and have a do-over of all the games they lost, and keep doing it until they are 160 - 1 ((St.Louis HAS to beat them at least once, just for tradition's sake))! It makes perfect Hillary sense to me!)

Kristen,

Yes, I have read that. I guess I will have to contact the DNC. Good suggestion. You would think that someone in here would have a copy/link since they seem to know so much about them...

or here is another link that might be helpful

How to Participate in the 2008 Delegate Selection Process

and here is another one:

How to Become a Delegate to the 2008 Democratic National Convention

While Bush Administration Begins To Grasp Failures Of Deregulation, McCain Wants More Of The Same

In a speech this morning(3/26) at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson forced conservatives everywhere to take a long, hard look in the mirror.

As Paulson laid out his prognosis for America’s mortgage crisis and last week’s disaster on Wall Street, he tossed aside the dogmatic, decades-long conservative tradition of promoting market deregulation:

”This latest episode has highlighted that the world has changed as has the role of other nonbank financial institutions and the interconnectedness among all financial institutions,” Paulson said. ”These changes require us all to think more broadly about the regulatory and supervisory framework that is consistent with the promotion and maintenance of financial stability,” he added.

While some conservatives grasp the failures of deregulation, John McCain wants more of it. In McCain’s major housing crisis speech last Tuesday, he continued to highlight an inadequate planto resolve the problems on Wall Street by making this assertion:

“Our financial market approach should include encouraging increased capital in financial institutions by removing regulatory, accounting and tax impediments to raising capital.”

Perhaps McCain’s archaic logic comes from his advisers (as we all know that McCain is no experton the economy). Paul Krugman rightly notes that “his chief economic adviser is former Senator Phil Gramm, a fervent advocate of financial deregulation.” “I’d argue that aside from Alan Greenspan, nobody did as much as Mr. Gramm to make this crisis possible,” Krugman writes.

Thanks Rev, Laughter is a good thing. :-D

For everybody else, Give it a rest for cat's sake!!!
Go out and get a reality check, there are bigger problems out there than some candidate's hurt feelings! MUCH BIGGER PROBLEMS!!!!
Clinton is my very last choice, but if it comes down to her, I will NOT go Republican or any of the loser third parties, for the simple reason that we need a change, and the Democrats are the only game in town which can offer a change.
It's one reason I have been saying and will reiterate as many times as I feel necessary, that the legislative race is what we need to start looking at, and try to get in as many populist senators and congresspeople as possible.
Thankfully the incumbent Republicans are helping by deserting their sinking ship and not running for new terms. Now, we need to put up a sign saying "NO Republicans, Republi-lites, nor Blue Dogs need apply!"
As for the claim that Obama or Clinton supporters will go McCain if their candidates don't win, gimme a break!!! I suspect that it's just Republican propaganda stirring the pot.
Nobody in their right mind is going to go with McBush and watch the economy, the dollar, our standing in the world, and the lives of our kids continue to go even farther down the tubes than things will be at election time.
The ONLY way to get things headed back uphill is to go Democrat. Maybe the rate of improvement won't be as great with one candidate than the other, but it will still be a change in direction from what the Bushiato has us going!
So take a deep breath, go wash your faces in cold water, and clear your minds so you can focus on the important things.

Posted by Kristen on March 28, 2008 at 03:32 PM

Jinx, I owe you a Coke. The rum can come after the addition to the family is complete.

I still say it would take upwards of 500K troops to lock down and secure that country however, no amount of security will make the Iraqi government get up off its dead arse and settle their nation's differences.
Posted by BobVADemHawk-Obama08 on March 28, 2008 at 03:27 PM

The military went on record with 480,000 in testimony before Congress. Rumsfeld blew a gasket and quickly dismissed the military's projections.

In any case, do we even have the troops necessary to do that? We are stretched thin - to the breaking point. Would this require a draft?

It all seems frighteningly reminiscent of the slow but steady escalation of troop levels witnessed in Vietnam.

A Democratic victory would put an end this speculation/escalation once and for all. But if McCain were to win, his "100 year gaffe" may prove that he wasn't kidding.

The rum can come after the addition to the family is complete.

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on March 28, 2008 at 03:42 PM

I'm going to hold you to that...but I swear I think he is just way too comfortable and has no intention of moving out anytime soon! ;)

Jenar,

I must be smarter than you if do you not see the irony, and indeed name calling, in your statement "like a grade schooler you call names."

The inference in your statement is that I am a grade schooler because I called you a name. It is pretty clear.

Let's get one thing straight.

I never called you a name. If you can find when I did that'd be great. Otherwise quite assuming I did. (That is not to say I haven't called someone a name before, just not you and certainly not today.)

At the end of the day, you're reference to me,school children, and name calling is misplaced and patently false.
But who am I kidding, they're just words, right?

You would think that someone in here would have a copy/link since they seem to know so much about them...

Posted by jenar on March 28, 2008 at 03:36 PM

Sorry, I used to try and keep it with my pocket constitution so I could whip it out at a moments notice, but unfortunately most really weren't that interested in the fine print of either.

Oh NO! Please tell me we haven't regressed to this

"you called me a name"..."No I didn't"..."YES you did"..."NO I DIDN'T"

crap where is my four year old when I need a little adult conversation...napping!

McCain's doing that "No new taxes" mantra.
We need a new tax sloagan.
How about "Restore fair taxes!"?
Or "Make the profiteers pay!"?
Any suggestions?

Posted by jenar on March 28, 2008 at 03:17 PM

http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2008/chrnothp08/sanctions.html

Not complete but, I believe it has the section you're most interested in.

Basra has been a place where criminality has thrived," Bush said. "They are fighting some pretty tough characters ... and yes, there's going to be violence, and that's sad."

He said the resurgent violence would not alter his determination to continue his administration's mission there.

"Any government that presumes to represent the majority of people must confront criminal elements or people who think they can live outside the law. That's what's taking place in Basra and other parts of Iraq," Bush said. "I would say this is a defining moment in the history of a free Iraq."

"There have been other defining moments up to now, but this is a defining moment, as well," Bush said. He said the decision to move troops into Basra was testimony to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's leadership capabilities.

......"This is a defining moment"..."Iraq has turned the corner".."AQI is on the run"..."The surge is working"..."We have to fight them over there...."..."Remember 9-11"...."This is a defining moment"..."Iraq has turned the corner"..."AQI is.........................

peace

McCain's "No more taxes" slogan should really by "Tax the workers".
We need to counter with "Restore fair taxes!".
Or maybe "Tax the profiteers!".
It goes along with the "Borrow and steal" sloagan.

I would be more than happy to contribute to the DNC, but until you can demonstrate an impartial view of Clinton and Obama, I will not send the DNC a cent.
It is so obvious the media, even the party, with Nancy Pelosi's comment this week, are soft soaping Obama and planning to make him the Party's nominee. The DNC following this plan means, I, as well as many Hillary Clinton supporters, will bolt the party, and very possibly make John McCain the new President. All the demands that Hillary withdraw from the campaign is discouraging. If the DNC would do the honest and honorable thing, they would permit the Michigan and Florida voters have their say, and rightfully award the popular votes and the delegates of these two states to Hillary. Gov. Dean, in one of his more recent speeches said the verdict is up to the voters. It doesn't seem that way. It seems the party regulars are determining just who the nominee will be. If it is not Hillary Clinton, for sure John McCain will be president.

Every one here can see you are as smart as a dead tree stump and a want to be troll, we have higher standerds and don't want you. There must be a street some where you can go play in, so beat it loser, (DopeyDoodle already has the loser spot filled) before you ask.

Posted by 5Dan on March 28, 2008 at 04:07
PM

Apparently spelling isn't one of them.

Posted by etty on March 28, 2008 at 04:16 PM

Etty we got the point the first three times.

Hellow "Frosty".."Dog".."Cactus".....I don't know of anyone poor enough to accept a handout from you.
Posted by goodfoe on March 28, 2008 at 02:05 PM

hahaha. Is AZ idiot still whining, that he thinks ANY of us actually have ever used a dime of HIS itty bitty tax dollars? The guy never made over $30,000 in his life, his SS that others are paying for him is minimal, you KNOW he never had a brain to do any investing, he is currently on the dole taking Medicare and other social programs we pay for, yet he whines that he might have to pull a dollar out of his greasy little wallet to pay a tax! LOL ! This guy has the lowest IQ I have ever seen!

Edwards Donors Prefer Obama to Clinton

John Edwards' former donors broke toward Barack Obama by a 2-to-1 margin over Hillary Rodham Clinton in February, the first full month after Edwards dropped out of the Democratic presidential nomination fight.

ADVERTISEMENT

The analysis by CQ MoneyLine identified 287 former Edwards contributors who donated to Obama for the first time during his record-breaking $56 million month. Collectively, though, the former Edwards donors amounted to a small fraction of Obama's haul, sending in $200,000. In comparison, Clinton banked $114,000 from 138 Edwards donors who had not given to her in past months as she piled up a personal-best $35 million in February
-------------------------------------------------

How long until Edwards endoses Barack and ends the fighting?

Posted by MARZBAR on March 28, 2008 at 03:47 PM

Would it take a draft to put in 500K troops? Yup.

Would the electorate go for it? Nope.

Posted by etty on March 28, 2008 at 04:12 PM

Paid for by the Committee to Elect John McCain President.

Posted by TheOriginalHillWilliam on March 28, 2008 at 03:06 PM

Today we should start a new tradition. I only have time for this post because as most of the ole timers know it's....TGIF and what do we do on TGIF? Well I don't know's about u's but I'm doing the red wine.

So, "TRADITION"??

The "AWARD OF DISTINCTION FOR THE BEST FRIDAY POST" goes to

The Reverend and the OriginalHillWilliam

Congratulations and can we please have a drink now??!!

Have great weekends :)

Mortars and rockets hit the "safest" section of Baghdad, "The Green Zone", killing at least 2 Americans and several more Iraqis and the Bush mis-Administration calls it a success and validation of it's policies. My local economy isn't doing very well and letters to the editor consist of claiming Obama is either a Muslim or a rascist.........or both......some Hillary... and a lot of McStain love.... Work is scarce, pay is low, gas and food are way up but to read the papers our "economy" is fundamentaly strong.... "Our Government" is now "loaning" taxpayer funds so "investment banks and institutions" can cover their bets on the stock market yet claim Social Security and Medicare to say nothing about the Veterans Administration are draining the national treasury. WTF? Since when has the goverment started gambling on someone's else's "hunch"? I'm just a simple laborer so why can I figure this out if our own "Representatives" can't?

Thanky, Dave. Whatsa use of being a Rev unless ya can be totally irreverent :)

It does sound like it is time for a well deserved drink! It will be a great weekend. By the sounds of todays news it sounds more like the reality has settled in and we will have President Obama to work for soon. I am so glad to see the battle ratchet down. Very pleased to see more SD's coming in to make a statement. I will assume Dr. Dean had something to do with the change in direction and tone. Woohoo....Dem's in 2008!!!!

Children behave and focus on McCain.

Yesterday, while two of the great Democratic Leaders were giving speeches on the broken down economy.

As I watched both speeches on MSNBC, I was severely annoyed when both speeches were cut short to spew negativity towards a fellow democrat.

Both Obama's and Hillary's speeches were cut short so MSNBC could spew more ugliness from the former Rev. Wright. I flipped over to CNN where they were staying focused on the issue of the day, the Economy (The number one issue for voters). I sent MSNBC an email today on how they should have stayed focused on the issue instead of spewing negativity (The topic voters don't really care about.) I boycotted them for the rest of the day, maybe longer. I am just so upset with them right now.

The first words out of one of the commentators was "This issue will just not go away for Obama." I wonder why moronic bimbo!

I think we should all, as democrats, email MSNBC and let them know just how uncool that was.

They really think Democrats angry with the Republicans would cross over and vote for a third Bush term? Hell, I'd vote for Hillary just because I know it would make Republicans cringe to have Bill in the White House again.

Posted by Sandy
===================================================

Sandy, Jonathan Alter was on Olbermann last night talking about this. He says it never works that way. In the past when there were close primaries, similar polls were taken. When the smoke cleared in the generals, there was no evidence that "irate Democrats" crossed the line to vote for a Republican. I think McCain is making it real easy NOT to vote for him as he moved way to the right - he's right in line with Chimpy at this point.

I am a Democrat and I am voting for a Democrat on 4NOV08. If you can't or won't say that, why are you here?

(Seemed like an apprpriate time for that again.)

Hey TMH: Did you get a seat for the Mansfield-Metcalf dinner? I didn't even try, they were sold out anyway. I did think that $40 for a box linch in the bleacher seats was pretty funny, though.
I wonder if Obama and/or Clinton will make any other speeches in Butte before they depart for other pastures?

Typo alert!: that should be Box Lunch.

In closing, the fault of the Iraq debacle, beginning to end, belongs to one man, and one man only; President George W. Bush, the Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces.

Posted by BobVADemHawk-Obama08 on March 28, 2008 at 03:27 PM

Bob,

The buck stops in Bush's pocket? You're absolutely right about that.

This stubborn fool is determined to stay in Iraq just to prove nobody tells him what to do.

In his mind, keeping the troops under his thumb and the generals over a barrel proves he's a strong leader...and he's out foxed all the rest of us who want this occupation to end.

Never mind that he's throwing the baby out with the bathwater. He doesn't do diapers.

Limbaugh safe from voter-fraud charges Radio host encouraged fans to vote Democratic Friday, March 28, 2008 2:59 AM

By Mark Niquette

THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

Radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh has been telling his audience for days now that he could be indicted for encouraging Ohio Republicans to take a Democratic ballot in the March 4 primary in what he calls "Operation Chaos."

Could that actually happen?

Not likely, Ohio officials say.

"We have no intention of prosecuting Rush Limbaugh because lying through your teeth and being stupid isn't a crime," said Leo Jennings, a spokesman for Democratic Attorney General Marc Dann.

When asked whether she has concerns about what Limbaugh did, Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner, a Democrat, replied, "I think it's very bad form, but I think most voters are intelligent enough to make their own decisions."

Limbaugh's "Operation Chaos" in Ohio, Pennsylvania and other states holding presidential primaries is designed to help presumptive Republican nominee John McCain win the Nov. 4 election.

The idea is to encourage Republicans in those states to vote for Hillary Clinton as a way to prolong the Democratic fight for the nomination with Barack Obama, possibly making it more difficult for Democrats to unite in the fall...

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/03/28/JAIL_RUSH.ART_ART_03-28-08_A8_HV9P3PM.html?type=rss&cat=&sid=101

I wonder why the junior senator from NY has failed to distance herself from this? Has she struck a deal with Limbaugh?

NEW THREAD AVAILABLE

Bob's post from 4:09pm

Bob,

Sorry I am on a Mac now and I don't know how to copy and paste.

Based on this information, what happened that MI/Fl lost ALL of their delegates. Why not only 50%? That is the same information that I posted before and got slammed about from Scooby Doo. I was really not trying to be difficult, I would like to know if the rules existed, why they were not followed? Does anybody have the answer?? I think this is a good question and I would like to know the answer.

I wonder why the junior senator from NY has failed to distance herself from this? Has she struck a deal with Limbaugh?

Posted by BobVADemHawk-Obama08 on March 28, 2008 at 06:41 PM

Wow! She's conspiring with Rush is she? Gotta get up pretty early in the morning to get one past you. Looks like the politics of hope has run into the potholes of NOPE.

Posted by jenar on March 28, 2008 at 07:18 PM

Listen up, BITCH tou WERE NOT "slammed". You were GIVEN THE FACTS.

Blow it out your ass, whining BITCH. (That IS your tactic, ain't it? To be a stubborn clueless "picked upon" little woman, and then when you get the FACTS you can claim LOOK HE CALLED ME A BITCH!!!!! SEXISM!!!!!

Eat shit and die, liar and cheater. FYI, I VOTED FOR HILLARY in my Primary on 2-5-08. The more YOU act like a BITCH the more I want a recount so I can change MY vote. BITCH.

Facts are FACTS. Bullshit is BULLSHIT. Whinng IS whining.

Grow up, take a chill pill, put down the wine glass and realize that YOU are HER problem. YOUR constant bullshit ("Regardless...") proves that you ARE DIVORCED FROM REALITY.

Go hang out at your one sided sites like Taylor's Martians, Jerome's My HH, and the rest of those KKK sites like "connie" used o C & P from.

If you don't respect the AMERICAN PEOPLE and want to have a "inevitablity succession" move to the 13th Century.

Oh, that's right, you CAN'T, nor can you change the REALITY that HILLARY IS LOSING!

It is time to call the war off. We need a major redirection of foreign policy. The major reason to quit the War on Terror is there are no terrorists. We have a few people hiding somewhere, perhaps Pakistan, who are incredibly ineffective. They can muster half dozen video or audio tapes a year and call that waging war?
Lookit: We lose 50,000 Americans on our roadways every year. Does anyone really fear going out on our roadways. Almost everyone thinks our roadways are safe. Partly because our roadways are already heavily policed. I don’t speed. I don’t think I could get away speeding if I did.
I heard someone say on television recently the major myth with national policy is 9/11 changed the world… (9/11 didn’t change anything. Planes are still flying, nobody is getting killed here, and business is going on as usual. It is understandable we are at war in Middle East; however the time has come to either quit or stop trying. America will not lose face. America will look prudent. Destroying the village to save it has only so much merit.
I signed on to Murtha’s strategy a long time ago and quite frankly I think he may have further policy to eliminate the terrorist network. If there is a network somewhere, it is not very big. What kind of budget do they have? How does their chain of command work? Who and where are their supporters? Are they training more pilots in Florida? Since the New York City attack we have had to remove our shoes in the airports. It works. No more attacks. Since NY we are policing for terrorists. We are quite competent. A car near Seattle sped through a checkpoint at 70 mph and set off a radiation sensor. When pulled over it was discovered the cat in the car had had radiation treatment 3 days previously. Maybe we should turn down the sensitivity of our radiation detectors. Another false alarm or another attempt has been thwarted.
I do admit I am more afraid of a terrorist killing me than I am afraid of being killed in an automotive accident. I have been hit from behind 4 times while driving. Twice I was hit rally hard. I still have no real of driving a car. If I am on the trolley or in an airplane and I see someone in Middle Eastern garb, I worry. This constant propaganda about terrorism has gotten to me. It is crazy. If the United States were an individual and were obsessing over a one time event 5 years ago, they would be in a straight jacket. Someone would be force feeding Uncle Sam meds in a psychiatric unit.
If we surrender to the terrorists, what do we do then? Is there somewhere we should go and turn ourselves in? So now that we have lost this Great War, what are they going to do to us? I’ll let someone else worry about that, I won’t be bothered.
Jimmy Carter installed a strategy against the Soviets when they invaded Afghanistan even a republican could accept. With a little patience and a break in technology the situation resolved itself in our favor. We should seek President Carter’s counsel today.

Scooby,

How low can you go? You don't intimidate me. I couldn't care less what you think about me!

You still have not answered my question! For the record I am not a sore loser and a whiner. I just would like to know why the rules were not followed. MI/FL should have had half of their delegates like the DNC rules said. Why was this messed up? Do you know or are you pulling this stuff out of you butt!