Five Years of Iraq War
It was five years ago today that we invaded Iraq, and there's a lot more to go if John McCain has his way. So it's worth taking a second to reflect on what has happened in that time, with a look at the evolving rhetoric.
"Greeted as liberators."
"Mission accomplished."
"Six days, six weeks. I doubt six months."
"Stuff happens."
"Dead-enders."
"Last throes."
"Bring 'em on."
"Stay the course."
"We've never been stay the course."
"Fair game."
"Small price."
"Surge."
"Pause."
And that brings us to today, although I'm sure that I have left out quite a bit. So what's it going to be, another 95 years?
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$27 a barrel oil
U.N. inspectors find no WMD
Colin Powell's performance at U.N.
Greeted with flowers and sweets.
looting
massive ammo dumps left unprotected
Democracy can sometimes get messy
Abu Graibe
oil pipeline bombings and routine smuggling
redition and world-wide system of gulags
IEDs
No body armour/unmanned Humvees
re-deployments
blue thumbs
suicide bombings
headless bodies dumped on streets over night
Halliburton and Blackwell no bid contracts
Plame outting
civil war
2-5 hours of electricity
worms in the water
walls and partisans
The fate of Riverbend - what has befallen her and her family?
5 million displaced people and refugees
Walter Reed
Extended re-deployments
Reduced veterans benefits
McCain's stroll through a Baghdad marketplace with over 100 troops and three Blackhawks
$300 a month Sunni bribes and protection money paid by Petraeus to keep the peace....
$111 a barrel oil
Record U.S. trade and national debt
Not worth a greenback dollar
$3 trillion dollar pricetag
A list of all the generals/admirals and other top brass who have retired or been fired for not agreeing with the administration's view of the war.
A weakened, overstretched military capability
Cheney repeats 9/11 al Queada link lie five years later
Strategic success?
Was it even necessary? Has it destabilized the whole region? Did it destroy our economy? What will it take to restore our military to what it was before this blunder?
BIN LAUDEN IS ALIVE AND WELL.
Another 95 years? No way!
We have not the money, the manpower, the will, nor the economy to sustain another 5 years much less 95 years. This nation is tired, in debt over its head, and its infrastructure is crumbling, while we are turning our backs on those who have gone to this "war" and returned damaged both mentally and physically, and left to joint the ranks of the homeless.
We have gone from a first world nation, who was respected, to an incipient third world debtor-nation that is sneered at by the world community, and who is deeply in debt to our enemies.
Our Constitution which has served us well for over 200 years is in tatters, our flag disrespected even by former allies, we are being ruled by an oligarchy of the rich and greedy fronted by a grandiose, sneering, wannabe despot whom, I highly doubt would be able to pass the very tests that his "Every Child Left Behind Act" demands of our children, while he has despoiled the economy and the infrastructure of this nation for the benefit of his corrupt cronies, and the bought-off corporate media lies to us!
No more!!!
Let's now focus on turning this country around and rebuilding it, restoring its shaky foundations, both governmental and infrastructural.
Let's give the mentally and physically injured from this debacle of lies the support and the aid they need and have richly earned to repair their lives.
Let us put the fair burden of paying for this fiasco back on the backs of the rich and greedy who have prospered from the destruction of both our country and of Iraq.
Let us help the poor, the disabled, the elderly as we should have been, and as has been stated in the Preamble of our battered Constitution.
Let us restore that Constitution to its rightful place in our country' government and traditions!
Let us move forward and look ahead and not indulge in petty squabblings that take our focus off our task at hand.
Let us join together and turn our backs on the 19th century philosophies and move, finally, into the 21st century!!!
Where has the Iraq oil money gone that was going to help pay for the war?
Where has the Iraq oil money gone that was going to fund rebuilding Iraq, and the billions Congress added to do the same? We have a Katrina aftermath.
Wher has the money gone foe Bush contractour like Halliburton, Blackwater, and so many more of the Bush Corporate Republic?
If we ran our country like the Iraq what kind of fiscal responsibility would we have?
If the United States is this treasure trove for the American R.A.P.E. (Republic of Arab Petroleum Energy) accountability at our gas pumps that never seems to take Iraq Oil into the picture but the Cheney R.A.P.E. keeps increasing, what is wrong with this picture?
With Halliburton moving to Dubai, and so many politicians financing from Dubai in secret accounts can be not see if there is money laundering and illegality going on the circumvent U.S. Law?
If U.S. citizens are not allowed secret bank accounts then why is the Corporate elite using them? Can we have a full exclosure of Congress and Washington of any financial arrangement by any Public official immediately? "We the people" demand a Enron concrete accounting not this shell game sham.
Congress, why has thee forsaken US.
If in asking these questions any groups of the Democratic Party gets upsets, and theu complain, why is that? This election "We the people" must do the HOMEWORK Congress is NOT!!
What is the Bohemian religion Washington has that wants to bulldoze people for profit? They tend to claim to being Conservative, but no Conservative religion would do this to their own country. True Conservative have HeArts, while these Bohemians are full of hate.
MarchOrganizers include this weekend's events in an effort to broaden support for ending the five-year Iraq war
With the war in Iraq nearing its five-year anniversary, Portland's internationally known peace movement has changed tactics in the hopes of broadening support, creating year-round opposition to U.S. foreign policy and perhaps making the city a sanctuary for AWOL soldiers.
Organizers are also working through internal debates about the breadth of the movement's mission and the role that younger, more radical groups will play in this weekend's rally to protest the war.
Saturday's events, which run from morning to night and include a 2:30 p.m. march through downtown, are only a small part of the local movement's ambitious plans to reinvent itself.
"I think people are recognizing that we're not going to have a big march and the war will end," said Kelly Campbell, of the American Friends Service Committee and one of the event's organizers.
The shift in strategy started last year with the formation of the PDX Peace coalition, an umbrella group created during planning for the 2007 rally.
One of the coalition's priorities is money. Its leaders want to pressure Oregon's congressional delegation to stop funding for the war and educate people about how much it costs. Another calls for supporting soldiers, their families and their resistance to the war.
http://blog.oregonlive.com/oregonianspecial/2008/03/peace_rally_is_now_cause_is_ye.html
Five years of duty, dissent and war
Portland protest - Despite the rain, thousands hit the streets, saying they hope to pressure the next president to pull out of Iraq Sunday, March 16, 2008MICHELLE ROBERTS and ANNIE MARTIN The Oregonian Staff
As thousands of protesters marched through downtown Portland in a torrential downpour Saturday, one man held a sign that seemed to capture the overriding sentiment of the crowd: "I can't believe we're still protesting this war."
After five years of war in Iraq, Portlanders did what they do best: They took it to the street, chanting to end the war in Iraq and bring the troops home.
Although there was no official tally of the number of marchers, protesters packed 31/2 city blocks and included senior citizens, war veterans and many families with children.
"We worked really hard to make this a family-friendly event," said Rachel Larson, executive director of Oregon Physicians for Social Responsibility, which helped organize the event. "In the peace movement, so often nothing happens beyond the rally. We wanted families to take the spirit of the day home with them and deliver the message that we can be a peaceful nation and we can have a better life."
Among Saturday's more poignant images was a tiny 4-year-old boy who held a sign that said, "This war's older than me." Another small boy rode in a Radio Flyer wagon decorated with a sign that said, "War leaves every child behind." A gaggle of preteen girls wore yellow signs on their backs: "Imagine . . . It could be different."
John Arnoldy, 55, showed up for the march and rally with his common-law wife, Noreen, and dog, Rex, who howled loudly through several city blocks.
"He's crying for peace," explained Arnoldy, who carried a sign that read, "WWJD?" meaning, "What would John (Lennon) do?"
Arnoldy said he made the sign (covered in plastic to protect it from the rain) five years ago and has carried it at rallies ever since.
"I'm going to keep it until the war is over," he said. "I pray to God that doesn't mean five more years."
Organizers said nearly 100 local organizations and businesses joined to sponsor the march, which began at 2:30 p.m. in the South Park Blocks. The route began at Southwest Park and Madison streets and wound through downtown, much of it on Broadway, and back to the Portland Art Museum.
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/120563611291000.xml&coll=7
How come in all the Iraqi budgets is Iraqi Oil money put in as part of the solution? Instead the put the amount needed and hide oil receipts as there were no there. To make matters worse anywhere from 20 to 55 % of the budgeted money, cannot be accounted for.
Do these Bohemian Corporate Republic Corporations with blanket immunity have fiscal immunity from Congressional, IRS, and Wall Street disclosure?
With a Patriot Act why can we not follow Iraqi laundering trails?
Today, on the fifth anniversary of the start of the Iraq war, it's tempting to render all kinds of judgment on critical questions: Is America safer today because of the war? Are we winning? Was the decision to go to war flawed or purposely misleading? What went wrong with the occupation? What effect has the war had on America's allies and enemies? When will the war end? These are natural questions to ask. But answering them would be premature.
That's because conclusively evaluating the war requires much information that is not presently available. Published sources offer conflicting accounts of the Bush administration's prewar deliberations, leaving unclear what exactly top administration officials knew and believed about Iraqi WMD and Iraq's potential for democratization. Thus, we must await the release of classified government documents, several decades from now, to judge the decision on the basis of what was known at the time, which is one way that future historians will assess it.
the topic from Christian Science Monitor. One phrase SUMS up why we went to war with Iraq:
"1 Timothy 6:10
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs."
America hired men that has never been to war. Men who has fallen in love with money.
The result is disastrous.
However, one thing it has accomplished, is to pave the way for the AntiChrist, to fulfill peace in the Middle East.
Who knows? The end times does not mention America, but mentions unions of continents running the world.
Coming world events Parts 1+2
Coming world events as I see them.
Part I
Matthew 24:4-8 "See to it that no one 'MISLEADS' you. For many will come in My name, saying, I am the Christ, and will mislead many. And you will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars; see 'THAT YOU ARE NOT FRIGHTENED, for those things 'MUST' take place, but that is 'not yet the end'. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes. But 'ALL THESE THINGS' are 'MERELY THE BEGINNING' of birth pangs.
Wars and rumors of wars:
Since the beginning of the church age there have been wars and rumors of wars. These words and this warning have been the same throughout the church age and wars and rumors of war shall continue.
In the 1900's we saw World Wars 1+2, the dropping of atomics bombs on Japan, and other major wars. These things will continue and you 'could' even see another use of nuclear bombs of some sort, especially by terrorist. Even so, we have seen wars and rumors of wars from the beginning. They have become more frequent and happened with more destructive weapons and with greater loss of life. Even so the Lords words remain "see that you are not mislead, see that you are not frightened, and know that 'these things' are merely 'THE BEGINNING' of birth pangs.
Famines and earthquakes:
Since the beginning there have been 'famines and earthquakes', yet we are seeing an increase of both. Again His words would be the same, "see that you are not mislead, see that you are not frightened, and know that 'these things' are merely 'THE BEGINNING' of birth pangs.
Saying 'I am the Christ'
I think that the church is not seeing the real meaning of what is being said here. You do see 'some', yet it is 'VERY FEW', who come saying 'they' are the Christ. Throughout the church age it has happened, yet it is rare and very few follow such people.
I think the Lord is saying something even more clear and plain, yet we have not been seeing it. For we have seen many 'COME IN HIS NAME' and say that 'HE IS' the Christ, yet they are misleading MANY!!! How is this? Its through cults 'and or' "DEAD RELIGION" which leads people 'to religion' and not to a 'born again' relationship with this living God! I'm talking about groups such as the Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons and the endless other cults and religions which, come in "His name" (Jesus), say that 'HE IS THE CHRIST', yet they are misleading many astray.
I'm also talking about the endless 'DEAD', 'so called churches', which are nothing more than, dead mens bones. Man made 'RELIGION' which misleads many into thinking that joining a denomination, or group, or church (as in a building or group) is enough to get them to heaven through works. The works which they most often point too is how much, and how often, you give. This is what we have seen throughout the church age that is increasing in these last days. We see many coming in 'HIS NAME' and 'DECLARING THAT HE IS THE CHRIST' yet they are 'MISLEADING MANY'. They do not know Him nor the power of His resurrection! They only lead people to religion, the law, and the works of man.
The next event that is more than a mere birth pang:
The next 'main event', that these birth pangs will give birth too, that will bring us into the tribulation, will be an asteroid hitting in the Atlantic Ocean. This, I believe, will cause the downfall of America as the worlds number one superpower and worldwide dominating force which most of the worlds finances revolve around. As this asteroid hits (in the atlantic ocean) it will cause the sudden downfall of America as the worlds number one economy, military, and consumers of the worlds goods. The asteroid will cause the world to go into turmoil as America falls, and also from the effects of the asteroid as they spread around the world. It will cause, and be the thing, which the tribulation revolves around.
The asteroid will cause 'HUGE' waves that will travel across the Atlantic Ocean as seen in Luke 21:25+26 and Rev. 8:8+9. They will be the greatest tidal waves ever recorded by man. There will also be endless fires, as debris and burning rock is kicked up into the air and cast for great distances (Rev.8:7). A giant cloud will rise up over the earth and spread throughout the tribulation as seen in Joel 2:30 and Rev. 6:12-17. It will cause an acid and sulfur rain to fall upon the earth. Most of the earths water supply will be ruined by the acid and sulfur that will rain down from above (Rev 8:10+11).
This will also begin the "coming of Elijah" as Gods Spirit will be poured out upon the Saints on the earth, as seen in Joel 2:28-32. The Saints will begin to preach the three messages, of the three angels, as seen in Rev. 14:6-13.
The Antichrist and the kingdom of the beast will dominate all mankind from from every nation, tongue, and land. But the Saints will also preach the three messages of Rev. 14:6-13 to the same nations and peoples. It will be a time of great spiritual power for the church, as the Spirit of God is poured out upon her. This will happen once the church is freed from the 'BONDS OF BABYLON', at the fall of Babylon. Worldwide the church will be free from the binds of the world which now hold us captive, as this entire worldwide system falls. The church will need this power and anointing as she
preaches the gospel in power, and as she is persecuted by the world and the Antichrist.
As seen in The Book of Revelation, Babylon (the USA is the center, strenght, and power, of Babylon) will fall as this great millstone (the asteroid)is cast into the sea as seen in Rev. 8:7-12, Rev. 18:4-19, and Rev. 18:21.
If you want to read about the fall of Babylon, what it was like, and its purpose, read Jeremiah chapters 50 and 51. Also read Isaiah chapter 13.
Some have told me that God has never used a 'force of nature' to bring down a kingdom or peoples. Yet Jesus said these words in Matt. 24:37 "For the coming of the Son of man will be just like the days of Noah." As we know, God brought an end to life, as it was know in those days, through a 'force of nature', the flood.
As America falls from power and the world is in turmoil from the effects of the asteroid, 'ALL' the world will look to a NEW WORLD LEADER AND POWER. The world will easily be mislead into the kingdom of the beast as food and water become scarce. As seen in Rev. 8:10+11 and Rev. 16:4 the asteroid will cause the earths water sources to become undrinkable. This will lead to the Antichrist and the kingdom of the beast to require a mark (the mark of the beast) for people to buy or sell. People will be glad to take this mark for food and water. The Saints will know better and be warning the world of this mark, the beast, and the Antichrist. For the first 3-1/2 years of the tribulation the beast will only verbally attack the church, as the church warns against the beast and the mark (Rev. chapter 12 and Rev. 14:9-13).
The Antichrist and the kingdom of the beast will be promising to bring peace and stability to the earth as America falls from power and as the effects of the asteroid spread around the world. The Saints will be warning against these very same things. For the first 3-1/2 years of the tribulation the kingdom of the Antichrist will be bringing peace to the world, as the world is in turmoil. The Saints will be warning the world of the outcome of this.
Don't you see why Yeshua (Jesus) said, "if it were possible even the elect would be lead astray" in Matt. 24:24? Look at what He is saying there. "For many false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect." He is clearly talking about the time of the tribulation as seen in Matt. 24:15-23 which leads to verse 24. Do you see it? There will be false religious leaders saying that these things are not the Antichrist, the beast, or his mark. They will say 'look at the good he is doing'. He is bringing stability, peace, food, and water. He is only serving God, for our good. Even DEAD, RELIGIOUS, 'so called' church leaders will be following this as, FALSE PROPHRETS! How easily many will be mislead. These false prophets "will show" GREAT SIGNS and WONDERS!! They will be saying, this is good, and that it is the only way through these hard times which have come upon the earth. They will be blind to the truth and only concerned about the natural! Thats why the Lord says to His people in Matt. 24:13 'But the one who endures to the end, he shall be saved'.
Even the Jewish people will follow him (the Antichrist) for the first 3-1/2 years of the tribulation. But at the middle of the tribulation he (the antichrist) will go into the temple and declare that he is God and that he must be worshipped. This will be the point at which the two wittnesses in Rev chapter 11 are killed and three days later ressurrected by God. At that point the Jewish people will turn to Yeshua (Jesus) as their messiah and prepare for His soon return. This will cause the Antichrist to turn against the Jews and the church. This will be the time of the 'coming of Elijah' to Israel.
For the last 3-1/2 years of the tribulation, the Antichrist and the kingdom of the beast will openly and violently persecute the 'NOW BELIEVING' (in Jesus) Jews, and the worldwide church as a whole, as seen in Rev. 12:13-17 and Matt.24:13-22.
Part II to follow
Revelations chapter eighteen. Babylon and the USA and the fall of Babylon.
Rev. chapter 18 This chapter starts with "After these things", we are therefore going to change subjects. We will spend more detail and time on this chapter because it is so important to the endtimes and we who live in the USA.
As we shall see chapter 18 describes (very clearly) the asteroid hitting and that it will cause the sudden downfall of the USA as we know it today.
Bible teachers say that America is not in the Bible, but as we shall see, it is very clearly described in Rev. chapter 18.
Chapter 18 covers the day and hour that the asteroid hits off the coast of the USA. It will clearly show that it is America that is described here in chapter 18. Once we are out of the way as a nation and world power, we will see how the rest of the world, which so depends upon us, will be quickly and totally affected.
We shall see that it is the asteroids affect upon the USA that puts all the world in turmoil. This is what will set the stage for the Antichrist to come, so easily, to power, and why all the world will follow him. That is, all those who have not been chosen for eternal life in Christ, before the foundation of the world.
Rev. 18:1 We see this "VERY POWERFUL ANGEL" meaning we are about to receive a very powerful message from God.
Rev. 18:2+3 We see that this angels message concerns the fall of Babylon.
Remember Babylon was a world dominating power that dominated the world with its strenght, power, religion and wealth. It is the USA that is now that world dominating power and we dominate the world scene by those same means.
Rev. 18:4+5 God is clearly telling his people (the church) to come out of that worldly, fleshly, self absorbing and sinful way of life. If we do not, God says that we shall receive of her plagues, that are about to come upon this Babylonian way of life and world dominating power. This is what Yeshua (Jesus) was saying when he would say "wait, be ready, pray, keep your lamp lit and do not be caught in a trap". "For her sins have piled as high as heaven". We are one of the worldliest, carnal nations on earth. We have more drug use, we have more lust for money, we have more murders, more abortions, more of all the sins of this world than any other nation on earth.
Rev.18:7 To the degree that we have glorified ourselves and lived sensuously, to the same degree we will see torment and mourning. It is the USA "that says", we shall never see mourning, we know that we are safe from the worlds dictators and rulers, we sit as queen of the earth. We would never say that "we are king of the earth" because we say that "God" is king.
Rev. 18:8 We see here that, in one day and in one hour, death, mourning, famine and fire will come, because the Lord God will judge this country and by judging this one country will bring judgement to the whole world. This will all happen in one hour of one day. As I said, a asteroid will hit in a ocean and that will cause the fall of babylon and start the tribulation period and it will all happen in one hour of one day. But the effects will last and grow throughout the 7 years of the tribulation.
As I see it, this asteroid will hit off the east coast of the USA and this will cause the fall of Babylon (the USA is the heart and soul of this entire Babylonian system) in one hour of one day and this will be "day one" of the tribulation period. Did God say it would be on the east coast of the USA? No, but it is plain to see that for America to fall as a world dominating power, and if it is to fall from the effects of a asteroid, then it must strike a fatal blow to the American power source. If a asteroid hits of the coast of Florida it would be a major blow but we would go on as a world power with little problem. If it hit off the west coast, in the pacific ocean, this would indeed be a major blow, but we would and could continue on. But if it hits on the north east coast of the USA and Wallstreet, Washington D.C., Congress and the Pentagon are gone, along with, New York City and other major east coast cities, then the U.S. would be in turmoil and the rest of the world will be turned upside down. As verse 8 says "this will all happen in one hour of one day".
Rev. 18:9 We see that all the other kings and rulers of the earth weep and mourn as she is burning (the USA). What other country would all the kings of the earth be so involved with, so tied into, so affected by, if it fell? It is only the USA that all the kings of the earth look to and so depend upon. This is why, the fall of the USA, will cause this entire worldwide Babylonian system to fall. If this great consumer nation falls, which all the worlds nations depend upon in so many ways, then surely the entire world system would fall because of it.
This is were and how the Antichrist will come to sudden power. He will promises to set up a new world order, and bring stability and peace to the earth. That is why the world will follow him so whole heartedly.
Rev. 18:10 We will be in such torment and under such judgement, that the other countries of the earth will "stand at a distance" and weep, because of what will happen to this country, in one hour. Look at the rioting and destruction that goes on in this country when a sports team wins or loses an important game. Or look at the killings and rioting that can go on because of a police shooting of a known criminal. Its not hard to see the total madness that would go on all over this country if there was such a event as this asteroid undoing American government and power. We are so dependent upon the "system" for food, water, health, safety and our very ability to survive.
After such a disaster, the USA would be covered by tidal waves, fires, flooding, death, looting and rioting. These things will result in the pestilence and famines and death described in this chapter.
Rev. 18:11-16 It is only the USA that, all the merchants of the earth are so dependent upon. It is only the USA, that buys all these things from every country in the world and it is only America that has made the worlds merchants rich from our excessive lust for the worlds goods. Only America so affects the worlds markets, and could stop the worlds merchants from continuing to make their riches. America is that one nation they so depend on for their wealth.
Rev. 18:16-19 You can see here, further why this has to be the USA. Every shipmaster, every passenger (tourist) and sailer and all who make their living by the sea, stood "at a distance". It is only America, that the rest of the world needs ships to get to and to trade with. Only America could cause all the worlds shipping to stop and all those who make their living at sea, to "stand at a distance". Only America could cause these verses to be true "Woe woe, the great city, in which all who had ships at sea became rich by "her wealth", for in one hour she has been laid waste (by the asteroid).
Anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear, should be able to see that this is, and, only could be, the USA, which represents Babylon and its world dominating government and commerce. We are that one power that dominates the worlds shipping, merchants, and money supply.
We also clearly see here, that she will be judged, and that all the world will be affected and that it will happen in one hour of one day.
Rev. 18:20-24 We see here a further picture of the end of Babylon, we see the end of the music, concerts, plays, and bands etc., we see the end of the factories, crafts, lighting and happiness.
In verse 24 we see that this way of life is what has been responsible for the death of all that God stands for. The lust, greed and worldliness that we have come to love has been responsible for the death of godly people and Gods purpose. In these last days the church has entered into this as much as the world has. The church leaders have become greedy for money and the prophets are out telling Gods people, that they should love and desire money, just so they can get more and more money for themselves. They are not being stoned for their godly stand. No, they are dieing a spiritual death as they cling to the lust of this world and teach others to do so.
Jeremiah 5:12+13 They have lied about the Lord And said, "Not He; misfortune will not come on us; And we will not see sword or famine. And the prophets are as wind, and the word is not in them. Thus it will be done to them!"
Jeremiah 6:13+14 "For from the least of them even to the greatest of them, Everyone is greedy for gain, And from the prophet even to the priest Everyone deals falsely. And they have healed the brokenness of My people superficially, Saying 'Peace peace, But there is no peace.
Who and what is Babylon
1. Babylon would be an END TIME GREAT NATION (Rev 17,18; Isa 13:6).
2. Babylon would have a huge seaport city within its borders (Rev 18:17).
3. The Great City Babylon is the home of a world government attempt (Rev 17:18).
4. The Great City Babylon would be the economic nerve center of the world (Rev 18:3).
5. Babylon would be the center of a one world Luciferian religious movement (Jer 51:44).
6. Babylon would be the center for the move to a global economic order (Rev 13:16).
BABYLON THE NATION
1. Babylon would be the youngest and greatest of the end time nations (Jer 50:12).
2. Babylon would the QUEEN AMONG THE NATIONS (Isa 47:5,7; Rev 18:7).
3. Babylon would be the most powerful nation in the world (Isa 47, Jer 50, 51, Rev 18).
4. Babylon would be the HAMMER OF THE WHOLE EARTH (Jer 50:23; Rev 18:23).
5. Babylon is called a lady, and has the symbol of the Lady (Isa 47:7-9).
6. Babylon would be the praise of the WHOLE EARTH (Jer 51:41).
7. Babylon is center of world trade (Jer 51:44; Rev 17:18; 18:19).
8. Babylon would grow to be the richest nation in the world (Rev 18:3, 7, 19, 23).
9. All nations that traded with Babylon would grow rich (Rev 18:3).
10. The merchants of Babylon were the GREAT MEN OF THE EARTH (Rev 18:23).
11. Babylon is a huge nation, with lands, cities, and great wealth (implied throughout).
12. Babylon is nation "peeled", or timbered, a land of open fields (Isa 18:2).
13. Babylon is land quartered by mighty rivers (Isa 18:2).
14. Babylon is a land that is measured out, and populated throughout (Isa 18:2).
15. Babylon destroys her own land, with pollution and waste (Isa 14:20, 18:2, 7).
16. Babylon is a land rich in mineral wealth (Jer 51:13).
17. Babylon is a the leading agricultural nation of the world (Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).
18. Babylon is the leading exporting nation in the world (Jer 51:13; Rev 18).
19. Babylon is the leading importing nation of the entire world.(Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).
20. Babylon is a nation filled with warehouses and granaries (Jer 50:26).
21. Babylon is the leading INDUSTRIAL NATION OF THE WORLD (Isa 13, 47, Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).
22. Babylon is noted for her horses (Jer 50:37).
23. Babylon is noted for her cattle, sheep and other livestock (Jer 50:26, 27; Rev 18:13).
24. Babylon is noted for her fine flour and mill operations (Rev 18:13).
25. Babylon is a nation of farmers and harvests huge crops (Jer 50:16, 26, 27).
26. Babylon is a huge exporter of MUSIC (Rev 18:22).
27. Babylon's musicians are known around the world (Rev 18:22)
28. Babylon has a huge aviation program (Isa 14:13-14; Jer 51:53; Hab 1:6-10).
29. Babylon's skies are filled with the whisper of aircraft wings (Isa 18:1; Jer 51:53).
30. Babylon has a huge space industry, has "mounted up to the heavens" (Jer 51:53).
31. Babylon fortifies her skies with a huge military aviation program (Jer 51:53).
32. Babylon is portrayed as a leading in high tech weapons and abilities (Jer 51:53; Hab 1:6-10; implied throughout).
33. Babylon is a nation filled with warm water seaports (Rev 18:17-19).
34. Babylon is a coastal nation and sits upon MANY WATERS (Jer 51:13).
35. Babylon trades with all who have ships in the sea year round (Rev 18:17-18).
36. Babylon is nation filled with a "mingled" people (Jer 50:37).
37. Babylon is a SINGULAR NATION founded upon OUT OF MANY, ONE (Isa 13, 47, Jer 50, 51, Hab 1).
38. Babylon is a REPUBLIC or a DEMOCRACY, it is ruled by many counsels (Isa 47:13).
39. Babylon's governmental system breaks down (Isa 47:13).
40. Babylon is bogged down with deliberations and cannot govern properly (Isa 47:13).
41. Babylon's leaders use astrology, seers and mystics for guidance (Isa 47:13; Rev 18:2).
42. Babylon labored in the occult from her very inception (Isa 47:12).
43. Babylon falls to the occult just before her end (Rev 18:2)
44. Babylon was born as a CHRISTIAN NATION (Jer 50:12).
45. Babylon turns upon its heritage and destroys it all in the end (Jer 50:11).
46. Babylon's Christian leaders lead their flock astray in prophecy and salvation (Jer 50:6; implied Rev 18:2).
47. Babylon's Christian leaders are "strangers" in the Lord Houses of Worship (Jer 51:51).
48. The people of Babylon are deep into astrology and spiritism (Isa 47:12; Rev 18:2).
49. Babylon becomes the home of all antichrist religions in the world (Rev 18:2).
50. Babylon is a nation of religious confusion (Isa 47:12-13).
53. Babylon has a mother nation that remains in existence from her birth to death (Jer 50: 12).
54. The mother of Babylon has the symbol of the LION (Dan7:4; Eze 38:13; Jer 51:38; Psalms 17:12).
55. The mother of Babylon will rule over her daughter her entire life (Dan 7:4; Jer 50:12).
56. The mother of Babylon will be a state of major decline as the end nears (Jer 50:12).
57. Babylon is considered to be a lion's whelp (Eze 38:13; Jer 51:38).
58. Babylon will have the symbol of the EAGLE and builds her nest in the stars (Dan 7:4 EAGLE WINGS; Isa 14:13-14; Jer 51:53).
61. The King of Babylon will rule from THE GREAT CITY BABYLON (Isa 14:4-6; Rev 17: 18).
62. A world government entity will rise up to rule the world from BABYLON THE CITY (Isa 14; Hab 2, Rev 13, 17, 18).
63. This world entity will be a diverse entity, different than all other ruling bodies of the world (Dan 7:7, 23).
64. This entity will be a TREATY POWER ENTITY (Dan 7:7, 23 DIVERSE).
65. This entity will rise up and use the military power of Babylon the nation to RULE THE WORLD (Isa 14:4-6; Hab 1 & 2, Rev 13, 17).
66. Babylon is a huge producer and exporter of automobiles (Jer 50:37; Rev 18:13).
67. Babylon is a nation of CRAFTSMEN, experts in their trade (Jer 50, 51, Rev 18:22).
68. Babylon is noted for her jewelry of gold and silver (Rev 18:22).
69. Babylon is a huge importer and exporter of spices (Rev 18:13).
70. Babylon is a huge exporter of fine marble products (Rev 18:22).
71. Babylon is noted for her iron and steel production (Rev 18:12).
72. Babylon has huge corporations that have bases around the world (Rev 18:23, implied throughout)
73. Babylon is a nation of higher education and learning (Isa 47:10, implied throughout).
74. Babylon is a nation with a GREAT VOICE in world affairs (Jer 51:55)
75. Babylon is a VIRGIN NATION, untouched by major war (Isa 47:1).
76. Babylon has a vast military machine (Jer 50:36; 51:30; Hab 1 & 2, Rev 13:4).
77. Babylon will be instrumental in the setting up of Israel in the Middle East, and is the home of God's people (Jer 50:47; 51:45).
78. Babylon will have a major enemy to her north (Jer 50:3, 9, 41).
79. Babylon's enemy will lie on the opposite side of the world, over the poles (Isa 13:5)
80. The enemy of Babylon will be a FEDERAL OF NATIONS (Jer 50:9).
81. The enemy of Babylon will be largely Moslem in make-up (Jer 50:17; Rev 17:16; Psalms 83:5-12).
82. The enemy of Babylon will have nuclear missiles capable of reaching Babylon (Jer 50:9, 14,; Rev 18:8, 18).
83. The enemy of Babylon will be noted for her cruelty (Isa 13, 14, Jer 50, 51, Rev 17, 18).
84. The enemy of Babylon will also have a huge aviation military machine (Jer 50:9, 14, Rev 18:8, 18 implied throughout).
85. The enemy of Babylon will come into Babylon unnoticed (Isa 47:11, Jer 50:24; 51:2, 14).
86. Babylon will be filled with her enemies brought in under the guise of peace (Dan 11:21).
87. Babylon will have all of her borders cut off, and there will be no way of
escape (Jer 50:28; 51:32).
89. Babylon is land vast land with huge cities, towns and villages throughout (Implied throughout).
90. Babylon will have been a huge missionary nation for Jesus Christ (Jer 50:11; 51:7).
91. Babylon would be a home to multitudes of Jews who leave (Jer 50:4-6, 8; 51:6, 45)
92. The people of Babylon would not know their true identity (Jer 50:6, implied throughout).
93. The people of Babylon would think they are God's elect and eternal (Isa 47:7-8, Rev 18:7).
94. The people of Babylon would enjoy the highest standard of living in the world (Rev 18:7).
95. The people of Babylon would grow mad upon their idols (Jer 50:2, 38; Hab 2:18).
96. The people of Babylon would go into deep sins of all kinds (Rev 18:5).
97. The nation Babylon dwells carelessly before the Lord (Isa 47:8).
98. Babylon becomes proud, haughty, and does not consider her end (Isa 47:7-8).
99. Babylon deals in the occult, in sorceries and drugs (Isa 47:9, 12; Rev 18:23)
Come on Free, you are picking and choosing and reading out of context.
Revelations was written between AD 90-100, and warned the young Church of the coming persecutions by the Romans particularly under Nero.
Ever since then it has been used by doomsayers to predict the end of the world several times over.
The pertinent thing about Revelations today is the fact that because human despots come and go, there have been several periods in human history that many of the warnings of Revelations can be applied to.
However, as Christ, Himself said, "But of that day and hour, no one knows, neither the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone." (Matt 24:36)
There is a warning (Matt 24:4-14) against false prophets as well.
Since these are Jesus' own words, they would have precedence over anything in Revelations.
Well, these statements arent of my own. It's from another site and I thought it was interesting so I posted it here :)
Revelation is not just a book. It foretells the future of God and the human race :)
We can agree/disagree, but God's prophecies will come true.
Ten yeas ago, I attended a retreat. I met a great man of God.
He was not a believer and heard about the Christians. He finished law school and was well on his way to make $$$millions. While he was driving, God called his name. He thought he was crazy. He listened again and found out it was really God that was speaking to him. He thought he was crazy, but the next few nights, his wife was in the car with him also, and God called his name again. God wanted him in the ministry.
He joined the ministries. So, instead of making $5000/hour, he's making like $2.00 an hour translating the Bible.
The Spirit of God is still alive and calling people to his ministries.
Yes, it's true we dont know the time or day, but there are signs
People have said "There are signs." for Nero, Caligula, the Fall of Rome, The invasion of the Holy Land and destruction of Christian North Africa by the Muslims, The Empire of Napoleon, The reign of Kaiser Wilhelm, the Nazis, and the rise of Communism in the mid 29th century among others.
There will always be "signs". There will also continue to be false prophets.
WASHINGTON - Hillary Rodham Clinton adviser James Carville is refusing to apologize for comparing New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson to Judas.
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Wow! Look the Clintons need to relax. It doesnt matter if Gov Bill Richarson endorses Obama. This is America. Please cheer up!
Richardson and other democrats can DO whatever they want and endorse whomever they want, but Hillary, please remember, I believe you are THE BEST. You are truly ready on Day 1. Dont worry!! All these past losers are endorsing Obama. Remember, they're all losers from day 1. You and your husband are the best!!
Obama is just a pretty boy with no substance. If elected, it will take him four years, to understand what he's supposed to be doing.
He's clueless. He repeats everything Hillary says... copies her.. and blah..blah...
He'll probably lose in the general election. I'm troubled with voting for a man, inspired, by a pastor full of hatred. I've been to one African american church and I'lve listened to Dr Tony Evans. They are powerful, positive and they make you want to love and appreciate God and people.
I'm glad not all African American churches are nuts! Preaching hatred and anger.
I could never understand Michelle Obama and why she came and said those nasty statements about 'first time...blah..blah'.
Now I know. It didnt affect Obama, but it affected his wife. What a bad role model for America! I'm so disappointed!!! I need to do some soul-searching!!
RENO, Nev. - Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are "basically the same" on every issue, so any political wounds inflicted by their competitive presidential contest should heal well before the Democrats' national convention, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Tuesday.
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Exactly! Both of these titans are very similar in every aspect, however, teh EXECUTION of them are going to be different.
Clinton is more knowledgeable and her brain holds a vast amount of information brewed by time and experience. If someone calls her, she's ready. Yeah, she's ready at 3am.
Obama, on the other hand, will need to do research to find what types of renewable energy are right.
Hillary KNOWS what types of legislation and what types of renewable energy to pursue immediately.
The execution is the difference.
We will go very far with Hillary and slower with Obama. Trust me, Obama needs an instructional manual.
Would you like a Carter or a Clinton to be our next President?
The execution is going to be very different. You know different brain, different feelings and everything else in between.
During debates, Hillary provides examples of renewable energy. Obama just sits there and listen and nods to agree.
McCain, oh, that's a totally different story. With his senior moments, If elected, it will be one fun ride
Yes! Sweet McBushain is ready on Day 1. He's ready everyday. He's ready at 3am. He's ready now. He's ready all day. He's ready with teh Bushonomic plan, which requires you to just sit back and relax.
We have had seven years of Republionomic, it doesnt work, we need change.
Blessed are the peace keepers. This is what Jesus said. So I will preach what Jesus has said. NO WARS. STOP THE KILLING. And what John Lennon said. Love is the only way. Not what the war mongers say.
So I will never vote for anyone who loves war and guns.
Look, the fact of the matter is that, had Michigan and Florida been allowed to re-vote, Hillary would have been our candidate.
So, to say that if the superdelegates pick Hillary, it is wrong. It is also wrong to not let Michigan and Florida re-vote.
Either way, to bring the party together, let the ClintoBama marry and be our Pres/Vice Pres candidates.
Look, dorky democrats, just bite the bullet and do it! Better to own the seat of honor than to lose it to that other party.
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