Morning Open Thread
Posted by Michael Link on May 20, 2008 at 08:37 AMChat away...
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Morning Michael. Thanks as usual.
Posted by PamB on May 20, 2008 at 09:26 AM
Impeach Bush and Cheney to show the world that criminal behavior is not to be pardoned or excused.
Impeach to take Iran out of the crosshairs of the atomic dumb bum sadists.
Posted by TomN on May 20, 2008 at 09:44 AM
Let us ask McBush how many prisoners are currently being held by the US. This is how enemies are made, and they knowingly keep doing it because they don't ever want conflict to end. It is then a state of war emergency economy and the executive rules.
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Clive Stafford Smith: US Holding 27,000 in Secret Overseas Prisons; Transporting Prisoners to Iraqi Jails to Avoid Media & Legal Scrutiny
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CLIVE STAFFORD SMITH: Well you know, one thing that my charity, Reprieve, out of London, we’ve been trying to do is track down the real ghost prisoners in this process. And if you look at Guantanamo Bay, 270, roughly, as you mentioned, prisoners in Guantanamo, but according to the most recent official figures, the United States is currently holding 27,000 secret prisoners around the world. So that means that 99 percent of these folk are not in Guantanamo Bay. Now they’re in other prisons elsewhere. And as you mentioned, Bagram has 680. But there’s a huge number of people being held in Iraq, and one of the intriguing aspects of this that doesn’t get much reporting is that the US is bringing people into Iraq from elsewhere to hold them there, simply because that keeps rather annoying people like you, Amy—I mean the media—and also annoying people like me, lawyers, away from the prisoners so they can’t get any sort of legal rights.
And when you look around the world, there’s a huge camp, Camp Lemonier in Djibouti, where a lot of people are being held. Diego Garcia, contrary to the past analysis of the British government, in the Indian Ocean has been used, in my belief, to hold people. And we’ve identified thirty-two prison ships, sort of prison hulks you used to read about in Victorian England, which have been converted to hold prisoners, and we’ve got pictures of them in Lisbon Harbor, for example. And these are holding prisoners around the world, as well. And there’s a bunch of proxy prisons—Morocco, Egypt and Jordan—where this stuff is going on. And this is a huge concern, because the world focus is on Guantanamo Bay, which really is a diversionary tactic in the whole war of terror or war on terror, whatever you’d like to call it. And actually, most of these people who have been severed from their legal rights are in these other secret prisons around the world.
Posted by TomN on May 20, 2008 at 09:50 AM
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Meanwhile, in key markets in Texas, we challenge Senator John Cornyn to back the Webb-Hagel bill. Senator Cornyn is one of the few Senators representing a large veterans population who has not signed onto the Webb-Hagel Bill.
As our Vice Chairman, Iraq and Afghanistan Veteran and Texan Brandon Friedman said today, "After serving in combat, veterans shouldn't be placed in a position where they have to choose between going to school and paying the rent. That was never the intention of the original bill. Senator Cornyn needs to follow the lead of so many of his colleagues from both sides, who are doing the right thing to support our troops and veterans by voting for this bill."
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Posted by PamB on May 20, 2008 at 10:00 AM
Dearest Democrats,
Why corn ethanol will never become the savior of our oil needs?
There is not enough land or man power to plant enough corn to replace even 20% of our daily oil consumption!!
The United States consume 22,000,000 barrels of oil per day. One barrel of oil is 31 gallon. USA consumes 682,000,000 gallons of oil per day or 248,930,000,000 gallons per year. (See report at www.cia.gov) We are currently importing 55% to 60% of our oil. The daily import of oil at 60% would mean we need 13,200,000 barrels per day of imported oil to support our economy or 409,200,000 gallons of oil per day.
The average production yield of corn into ethanol is 2.7 gallons of ethanol for every bushel of corn. (See report www.ers.usda.gov) One bushel is approximately 60 pounds of corn. To fill one large E85 SUV with 30 gallon tank will require 600 pounds of corn converted into ethanol!! That enough corn to feed a family of 4 with almost half a pound of corn per day for one year!!
The average yield of corn is 160 bushels per acre of land. (www.nass.usda.gov) According to National Corn Growers Association there were 90.5 million acres of corn planted in USA. (See www.ncga.com) Let us make a ridiculous assumption of converting 100% of our corn production into ethanol and see what the impact will be on imported oil. If 90,500,000 acres of land is producing corn at 160 bushels per year that would mean the USA can harvest 11.8 billion bushels of corn. If all this corn is converted into ethanol at 2.7 gallon yield per bushel of corn; the total annual production of ethanol will be 31.86 billion gallons of ethanol. That is far short of our annual consumption of 248.93 billion gallons of oil per year. What these number are telling me is even if every pound of corn produced in USA is converted into ethanol to power vehicles the total impact is only 12.7% of all oil consumption!!
The other issue to consider is USA do not have
a) The storage capacity for 31.86 billion gallons of ethanol!
b) The annual increase in corn production is 15% in one year because of irrigable land and manpower. There is insufficient land and manpower to increase the production. We will run out of harvestable land and manpower before corn ethanol can make a deep impact on fuel needs.
c) The tax subsidies and increase in corn price around the world would impact our debt level and food price!
d) Burning 70% of our corn to produce ethanol is highly polluting, because of the inefficiency in the production. Also ethanol has only 2/3 the energy of gasoline, therefore anyone burning ethanol will see a immediate 30% lose in gas mileage. So if you get 21 miles per gallon on the freeway with gas, you would only see 14 miles per gallon on ethanol.
This is why I do not trust this Bush administration or the Republicans or the Christian right when they were promoting ethanol as an alternative fuel. They promoted a product that increased our taxes, increased our corn price, increased the pollution and carbon foot print and increased the price of vehicles that did not make any contribution in reduction of fuel usage.
Posted by HybridFuel on May 20, 2008 at 10:51 AM
MSNBC:
"The overall moderation in prices primarily reflected how the government adjusts its data to compensate for seasonal changes. Those adjustments showed gasoline prices falling last month even though motorists were seeing prices soar."
you dfh's need to accept the new reality which is no reality at all...then all this angst and bitterness will pass and you will starve to death with smiles on your faces....
Posted by gregg on May 20, 2008 at 10:52 AM
had a call yesterday from DCCC, one today from DSCC. Seems my contribution can be tripled should I give. Well, as I do not like the way these committee leaders have decided on candidates for our party over the last years, I refused to give to either of them. I shall continue to give individually to Tom Allen for a seat in Maine. Jeanne Sheehan running against Sununu. Al Franken to take the MN seat. Also Jim Himes running against Chris Shays, Representative, here in CT.
Posted by PamB on May 20, 2008 at 10:52 AM
it makes me smile when I hear them on TV saying gasoline has now passed $4.00 per gallon. It is up to $4.179 here yesterday. Been over $4 for couple of months. Same gas station with the same gas in the ground, raises it almost daily to sock it to us while they can. Wonder how obscene Mobil/Exxon's profit will be this quarter !
Posted by PamB on May 20, 2008 at 10:59 AM
ole man McCain running around like a rat, trying to clean out the dirt from his campaign!
McCain Finds a Thorny Path in Ethics Effort
By Barry Meier and Kate Zernike
The New York Times
Sorting out the lobbying entanglements of his campaign advisers is proving to be a messy business for Senator John McCain.
On Monday, just days after it issued new rules to address conflicts of interest, the McCain campaign was furiously sifting through the business records of aides and advisers. The new rules were prompted by disclosures that led to the abrupt departure from the campaign of a number of aides who worked as lobbyists, including some with ties to foreign governments.
Mr. McCain's political identity has long been defined by his calls for reducing the influence of special interests in Washington. But as he heads toward the general election as the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, he has increasingly confronted criticism that his campaign staff is stocked with people who have made their living as lobbyists or in similar jobs, leaving his credentials as a reformer open to attack.
Posted by PamB on May 20, 2008 at 11:02 AM
I heard a dissertation of McCain's appearance on SNL on TV yesterday. The analyst was saying, that McCain's ploy is, to give the image that he IS old, so any future campaigning on that issue by Democrats would appear petty!!!
Who gives a shit whether it looks petty or not. The majority of Americans think McCain is too old to run for the highest office in the land! Even the idol Reagan was only 69! and look what happened to him before he was finally out of office and officially declared with Alzheimers !
You can expect me to continue to tell people how old McCain will be when sworn into office (72), and how old he will be should he go 8 years (80).
You can bet he will answer the phone at 3:00AM---he will be up peeing with that worn out prostate anyways!!!
Posted by PamB on May 20, 2008 at 11:07 AM
America's 50 Greenest Cities Want to see a model for successful and rapid environmental action? Don't look to the federal government—check out your own town. Here, our list of the 50 communities that are leading the way. Does yours make the cut?
http://www.popsci.com/environment/article/2008-02/americas-50-greenest-cities?page=1
Posted by PamB on May 20, 2008 at 11:11 AM
Good morning Dems!
Well, San Diego is feeling the effects of Republican leadership. Don't know if this story made national news, but here it is:
14 injured in big explosion at hotel construction site
Deregulation leads to cutting corners, and ends up hurting the workers.
What are the chances that these workers have the health care coverage they need? I say slim to none.
So, now we are looking at the people paying the cost for Republican greed. The company makes a fortune cutting corners and the workers go bankrupt paying their medical bills...
Posted by margotb822 on May 20, 2008 at 11:31 AM
Posted by HybridFuel on May 20, 2008 at 10:51 AM
I was visiting Arizona a couple of weeks ago and I spoke with a man who moved there from Chicago and took a job with an Ethanol plant in AZ. When I questioned him about corn growing in AZ he said, "No, they send it in by freight train from Nebraska".
Just how much money do you think they spend shipping corn to Arizona to make this fuel and who's the idiot who thought of such a thing?
Posted by BlueinIdaho on May 20, 2008 at 11:32 AM
Oh, I'm sure it's already been posted, but...
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A New York congressman who admitted to fathering a child out of wedlock with a woman who bailed him out of jail on a drunk driving charge this month announced Monday that he will not run for re-election.
The Party of "Family Values" can't seem to stop at just one family
Posted by BlueinIdaho on May 20, 2008 at 11:37 AM
PamB,
Yup, gas is over $4.00 per gallon. The repugnants and x-tian reich are delivering the false message that consumptions is the issue.
Let me see. Didn't Bush state that by going into Iraq, the 3rd largest producer of oil, that the country can pay for it's own reconstruction and increase oil production to reduce or stabilize oil price? That was when oil was at $20.00 per gallon. Now its $100 more than what Bush promised and Iraqi reconstruction is nowhere to be seen.
Bush, the republicans and the x-tian reich keep telling us they believe in the literal translation of the bible. Here is a man who believes in creation. Here is a man who believes the world was created in 7 days. It the bible it states the punishment for people who bears false witness is stoning till death. I am waiting for these believers to do what is stated in the bible, …or are they lying again?
Were the Republicans and Christian Right lying when they stated they believed in the literal translation of the bible or are they lying when they do not follow the 10 commandments? Either way they got themselves trapped in a dual lie!!
Posted by HybridFuel on May 20, 2008 at 11:42 AM
Posted by HybridFuel on May 20, 2008 at 10:51 AM
Hybrid: You didn't mention another very important aspect of this ethanol scam.
Besides the use of hundreds of thousands of gallons of diesel fuel in trucks and farm machinery used to get the corn planted, raised, harvested and shipped to the ethanol plant, there is fertilizer.
Corn depletes nitrogen from the soil. The traditional rotation of corn, soybeans, corn, soybeans maintains a certain level of nitrogen because soybeans are a legume and returns nitrogen to the soil. As the demand for corn grows, farmers are planting more acres of corn and fewer of soybeans, throwing the rotation out of balance. They have to use commercial nitrogen fertilizers to get any kind of commercially viable yield out of their corn crops.
Nitrogen fertilizers are made with petroleum! Farmers who once were caught between the low corn prices and the cost of production are again being squeezed, this time between high corn prices and higher costs of fertilizer, as oil prices go up along side of the demand for more petroleum based fertilizers. The corn farmers are not cleaning up. Big Agra is cleaning up, selling the farmers more petroleum based fertilizers at higher prices.
The farmers are only pipelines for the money flowing into Big Agra through the ethanol scam.
Ka-Ching! Ka-Ching!
The worst thing is the soil is suffering for it, with compaction, loss of organic matter, loss of tilth, and the necessity for more poisons to kill broad leaf weeds, and insects.
Aside from the ethics involved in taking a food crop and using it to power cars, ethanol is NOT a sustainable energy source!
Posted by Butte on May 20, 2008 at 11:43 AM
BREAKING NEWS: McCain Resigns From His Campaign
Believing that he has become too much of a drag on his campaign, John McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential candidate, and one of the key components of his campaign and id, has stepped down, the latest casualty of a presidential campaign eager to cauterize damage caused by its ties to lobbyists, age and President Bush.
McCain, who has appeared in most of his commercials and fundraisers, is the highest profile departure from McCain's inner circle since a summer 2007 shake-up cost McCain his campaign manager and chief strategist.
"My support for President Bush's comparison of Senator Obama to Adolf Hitler, because Barack was willing to speak to Iran's leaders, was the last straw," said McCain. "Especially when I had already suggested that it was a good idea."
"It not only showed his attachment to the President's policies and indiscreet rhetoric," said McCain spokesman, Tucker Bounds, "but it also underscored his short term memory issues and his desire to keep defense contractors and lobbyists on the public dole."
Campaign officials have yet to name a replacement, but the betting money is on McCain confidante and wife, Cindy McCain. "She's younger and already has enough money," said Bounds. "And having the same last name saves a helluva lot of stationery and campaign poster reprinting."
In a White House press release, President Bush said he was "sad about McCain's decision" and "would give up something to be in solidarity with the grief McCain's mother must feel."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-young/breaking-news-mccain-resi_b_102364.html
Posted by BlueinIdaho on May 20, 2008 at 11:53 AM
BlueinIdaho,
No capacity so they build it in places where it impact the society with the highest inefficiency! That's a republican solution for you.
Higher taxes
Higher borrowing and interest payment
Higher corn prices
Higher fuel usage
Higher price of vehicles
Higher pollution
I'm still waiting for these people to do what the bible states is the appropreate punishment for bearer of false witness. Of course this will never happen because they are liars and are not believers in the bible. Let the Bushes, repugnants and x-tian riech's soul be damned and let them burn in hell.
Posted by HybridFuel on May 20, 2008 at 11:54 AM
Wanted: Racial minorities to stab your own people in the back, provide cover to destructive policies. Perks include a life long association with the party of Strom Thurmond, Trent Lott, and The Southern Strategy. Inquire Within.
http://www.oliverwillis.com/index.php/2008/05/19/republicans-cant-find-any-minorities-dumb-enough-to-run-with-them/
Posted by BlueinIdaho on May 20, 2008 at 12:01 PM
When I went through Great Falls on my way to Lewistown last week, I saw some of the wind installations in the Judith Basin area. They're actually pretty cool looking. Huge stalks with slowly turning rotor/flowers. dlester would probably write a poem about them, I don't have that talent.
Unlike the wind farms I've seen in California, these are widely spaced rows, and the windmills are bigger. I've seen some of the rotor blades going down the highway, with the oversize load signs and the yellow lights flashing on the escort vehicles. One blade on each truck, mindboggling!
Montana has an endless supply of wind, and even though we are a northern state, because of our many cloudless days, enough sunlight to make solar economically feasible too.
We have resources, we just need to use them.
Posted by Butte on May 20, 2008 at 12:02 PM
McAuliffe tried out the "new math" in Colorado...got booed.
McAuliffe shouted down at CO Dem convention....10,000 were there!
You just don't make up numbers in front of a state convention. Besides people are catching on to Clinton's new math.
Posted by sunny on May 20, 2008 at 12:02 PM
BBBBBBBBBBBBig day! Hope all goes well for everyone!!!
Posted by virgo on May 20, 2008 at 12:07 PM
BBL Going to campaign again for Tom Allen! This will be a tough one against (R)Susan Collins.
Posted by virgo on May 20, 2008 at 12:09 PM
I just saw this on Yahoo:
WASHINGTON - The White House on Tuesday denied a published report in Israel that said President Bush intends to attack Iran before the end of his term in January.
A story in the Jerusalem Post quoted a "senior official" there as saying that Bush plans to attack Iran in the coming months. The story says the unidentified official claimed that a "senior member" of Bush's traveling entourage made the statement about attacking Iran in a closed meeting. Bush was in Israel last week.
The article also says the unnamed Bush official said that Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney "were of the opinion that military action were called for."
Posted by marymac_memphis on May 20, 2008 at 12:19 PM
White House denies imminent plans to attack IranWASHINGTON (CNN) -- The White House on Tuesday dismissed an Israeli media report that President Bush intends to attack Iran before his term ends in January.
"An article in today's Jerusalem Post about the president's position on Iran that quotes unnamed sources -- quoting unnamed sources -- is not worth the paper it's written on," the White House said in a statement hours after the Israeli newspaper published the report on its Web site.
The Jerusalem Post article cited an Israeli Army Radio report that quoted a "senior official in Jerusalem" saying a "senior member of the president's entourage" claimed Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney thought military action was called for against Tehran.
With the White House blasting NBC like it did with CNN to have it cave in to the Bush White House intimidation, Bill O'Reilly Bush slanted little pit bull attacks (Bill is the runt of the litter), and Australian Rupert Murdoch the mongrel wanting to Conservative Monopolize all corporate media in the U.S. with Bush and Cheney's (Bohemian Twins) Republic propaganda of merged Corporate Government control, it is refreshing that in Jerusalem they reveal possibly the real reason for Bush's Middle East trip, to set up conditions for a Iran surprise gift before him leaving office. Has not Cheney lately been working in secrecy in being low profile Chevron organizer. While this is only a possibility, it is strange the Israel Army is talking out it. It seems with NBC "Truth" reporting, the White House wants it to have Bush "Intellegence" Foxnews "Truth" of Fair and Balanced" - "Lies."
Posted by YoungPoet on May 20, 2008 at 12:24 PM
Posted by marymac_memphis on May 20, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Pelosi needs ot call up the white house and let them know that an impeachment bill will be in front of the house within five minutes of an attack on Iran.
Posted by christopherblunt on May 20, 2008 at 12:25 PM
Butte,
You are correct, my short summary was to look at only the impact on the harvestable land. I did not look at the complete production cycle and loop for corn ethanol!
As I stated the other day; if one look at an electic car, even with today's battery technology, one 2KW 3x6 solar panel can power the vehicle for 90% of our societies needs. 90% of our travel is less than 40 mph and 20 miles loop. So if we install a 3x6 solar panel with an inverter to charge a battery operated car; it can be done completely off the grid. This is not something the repugnants want to do because they cannot charge you usery fees. Even with todays battery technology, which requires replacement every 3-5 years, the option can be viable. There are solutions that can take care of the battery recycling to minimize the environmental impact. There are no financial commitments.
Secondly, we truly need to revisit public transportation. CSX corporation is advertising they can transport one ton of cargo 420 miles on one gallon of diesel. That's using current diesel electric technology without hybrid energy recovery systems. Even with this older technology if one extrapolate the numbers, CSX should be able to transport one person (200 lbs) 4000 miles on one gallon of diesel!! Remember the freight cars are built very stong and heavy. If we use light weight alloys and composites with hybrid energy recovery system on people moving trains, the numbers can be easy to match.
Alternatively, electic trains should be considered for mass transportation in urban area and is much better use of our resources. Remember large electric power plants can convert raw fuel into electricity at 90% efficiency. Automobiles use 70%-80% of the fuel as a coolant to prevent the melting of the pistons. Most if not all the remaining unburned fuel is burned in the catalytic converter and turns into heat and carbon dioxide in the environment!!
America is looking more like a third world country than a leader. China was able to build a 200 Km magnetic levitation train in Shanghai. They build is under budget and ahead of schedule. The darn train was tested at over 300 kph or 200 miles per hour! The train floats on magnets so it has very little friction and gets better fuel economy!!
...and here we are burning our food to drive to the movies!
Doesn't the bible consider people who distroy food and cause suffering of the mass as evil! I think the bible specifically forebid the distruction of food? ...and I am still waiting for the liars to prove to me they are true believers.
Still waiting for punishment by stoning of people who are the bear of false witness!!
Posted by HybridFuel on May 20, 2008 at 12:26 PM
Posted by marymac_memphis on May 20, 2008 at 12:19 PM
These people are unbelievable. What do they think that will even accomplish? I don't know if they'd be better off in jail or a mental institution, but they need to go to one of them!
Posted by margotb822 on May 20, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Good afternoon fellow Democrats.
Obama \ Clinton 2008
Posted by BobVADemHawk-Obama08 on May 20, 2008 at 12:34 PM
impeachment bill will be in front of the house within five minutes of an attack on Iran.
Posted by christopherblunt on May 20, 2008 at 12:25 PM
He'll probably declare 'martial law' and put all of the Senate and the House in jail, along with anyone who dares breathe a word against him. We need to be prepared to take him and dickhead out in handcuffs and take them to Gitmo!
Posted by marymac_memphis on May 20, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Large crowds at rallies an Obama trademarkNEW YORK - Barack Obama is well known for his ability to draw large crowds, but 75,000 in Portland, Ore.?
So Superdelegates look at who will bring in the biggest crowds to the Democratic Party. Who will unite America among the greatest diversity of American across the United States. Look at that crowd in Oregon, which is primary white, a Rainbow Democrat can win their vocal support. That a Democratic Senator raised in segregation can look across racial divions and say Obama is the right person to run this nation. With a "White" House that one needs a ticket for replaced where "We the people" are invited openly into.
Posted by YoungPoet on May 20, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Posted by margotb822 on May 20, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Margot: We do not have the 'man power' in our military to sustain an attack on Iran in addition to the wars in Afgan. & Iraq. I suspect that what rove would like is to bomb Iran to start a war that will force the next administration (probably Sen. Obama's) and Congress (probably Democratic) to reinstitute the draft. This will ensure the destruction of the democratic party for a generation.
Posted by marymac_memphis on May 20, 2008 at 12:57 PM
Wow - Boy do I sound paranoid - but when it comes to Karl Rove and his neo-con masters (Scaife, Melon, Coors, etc), I don't think that this nation can be paranoid enough.
Hi Bob and David - I hope that you are both doing well!
David: I went back and read a post yesterday that sounded like I was 'taking a swipe' at you. That was never my intention. I hold you in particularly high regard, please be sure to know that. I apologize that it came across that way because that is not what I intended.
I'm at work and break time is over!
bbl - probably
Posted by marymac_memphis on May 20, 2008 at 01:04 PM
Posted by marymac_memphis on May 20, 2008 at 12:19 PM
In rebuttal to that article about Bush attacking Iran, the Times on Line has an article about top US generals resigning if Iran is attacked.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article1434540.ece
I'd say that it would be a shake up in military leadership, the likes of which hasn't happened since the Civil War.
The Times article quotes "a source close to British intelligence". Sounds to me like the Brits are quite sanely worried about the repercussions of such an attack, and have deliberately leaked the possibility in an attempt to head it off at the pass.
Posted by Butte on May 20, 2008 at 01:08 PM
Oh Wow; oil is at $130 per barrel!! The George W. Bush's Wahhabi Christian Right must be celebrating his trip to Saudi Arabia!! Bush's trip to the Wahhabism capital produced result even he enjoy's with $130 oil!
Posted by HybridFuel on May 20, 2008 at 01:10 PM
CNN reporting that Teddy Kennedy has a brain tumor.
Posted by christopherblunt on May 20, 2008 at 01:17 PM
Boycotting Obama Will Lead to Famine, Armaggedon, Government-Controlled Uteruses — and other Scare Tactics
Posted by LNAB on May 20, 2008 at 01:17 PM
Isn't is most interesting to see the Wahhabi Christian right pleasant named George W. Bush cowtow and pay homage to his Wahhabi Lords in Saudia Arabia to produce such interesting results for the world; $130 per barrel oil!
Posted by HybridFuel on May 20, 2008 at 01:22 PM
Flag Pins: They don't go far enough
One thing about Flag pins, you can always take them off.
This issue bares a striking resemblance to Dr. Suess' "The Sneeches." The only socially acceptable sneeches are the sneeches with 'Stars on Thars' Those without are not allowed the campfire to raise their 'goodfellow sticks.' By contrast the only patriotic politicians are those with 'flag pins on thars.'
What do issues and policies matter anyways? I will only vote for those politicians that show their true patriotism by getting their belly tattoo'd with a big Star. That way we can really tell the true patriots from those that hate America.
So come on Republicans, you too Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Hannity. You better hurry up and stand in line at your local tattoo parlor. Big Stars on your Belly is the only way we can tell the true Patriots.
We need to push this issue. We can not rest until every Patriotic Republican has a 'Star on Thars.'
Posted by TMH on May 20, 2008 at 01:24 PM
Good afternoon, all.
"The overall moderation in prices primarily reflected how the government adjusts its data to compensate for seasonal changes. Those adjustments showed gasoline prices falling last month even though motorists were seeing prices soar."
Just how much longer can the the GOP get away with this crap? Up is down. Left is right. Dead is alive.
I hope Bush is stupid enough to attack Iran before the end of his term so we can at least impeach him. I don't want him to go out any other way but in disgrace.
All the corrupt, dishonest evidence needs to be put on the record for posterity to study.
Posted by SandyH on May 20, 2008 at 01:26 PM
New thread
Posted by MichaelLink on May 20, 2008 at 01:28 PM
It's so interesting to see the Wahhabi Christian economist of supply and demand on TV advocating $150 to $200 per barrel oil.
Posted by HybridFuel on May 20, 2008 at 01:33 PM
Hey everyone! Sen. Kennedy needs our prayers and support!
By GLEN JOHNSON, Associated Press Writer 2 minutes ago
BOSTON - A cancerous brain tumor caused the seizure Sen. Edward M. Kennedy suffered over the weekend, doctors said Tuesday in a grim diagnosis for one of American politics' most enduring figures.
Doctors for the Massachusetts Democrat say tests conducted after Kennedy suffered a seizure this weekend show a tumor in his left parietal lobe. Preliminary results from a biopsy of the brain identified the cause of the seizure as a malignant glioma.
His treatment will be decided after more tests but the usual course includes combinations of radiation and chemotherapy
Posted by marymac_memphis on May 20, 2008 at 01:45 PM
I'd say that it would be a shake up in military leadership, the likes of which hasn't happened since the Civil War.
Posted by Butte on May 20, 2008 at 01:08 PM
Butte: Unfortunately for this country, that may be the idea. I know I sound paranoid but the neo-cons don't care about me, you or the country, they care about having complete control and lining their pockets with gold and they don't care who or how many they destroy in the process.
Posted by marymac_memphis on May 20, 2008 at 01:53 PM
Posted by Harpo_has_decided_that_he_is_an_idiot on May 20, 2008 at 01:46 PM
You truly are slime on a piece of scum. That is real low class to cheer the illness of another human. You do not even show the smallest amount of human decency.
All our thoughts and prayers are with Sen. Kennedy and his family. May he have a speedy and full recovery.
Posted by TMH on May 20, 2008 at 02:05 PM
New Thready not worky...
Posted by BlueinIdaho on May 20, 2008 at 02:06 PM
All our thoughts and prayers are with Sen. Kennedy and his family. May he have a speedy and full recovery.
Posted by TMH on May 20, 2008 at 02:05 PM
From your lips to God's ears!
Posted by marymac_memphis on May 20, 2008 at 02:09 PM
A flood of recent polls suggests the 2008 election will once again display the “Iron Law” of 21st century Republican presidential politics. That is, with Americans showing an overwhelming preference for Democratic positions across virtually the entire spectrum of issues, the GOP has to make the race about something else. This year as in 2000 and 2004, the Republicans will try to turn the race into a presidential personality contest. And to win it, they need to manufacture a “character gap” between John McCain and Barack Obama.
Two surveys in the past week show the Republicans’ dilemma. First, a new Rasmussen poll revealed that voters trust Democrats more than Republicans on each and every one of the 10 issues measured. Democrats enjoy double-digit advantages on the economy (50%-36%), government ethics (45%-26%), health care (54%-33%), Social Security (49%-36%), education (50%-35%), Iraq (50%-39%) and immigration (45%-35%). The GOP lags by smaller margins on national security, taxes and abortion.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/05/20/scorned-on-issues-gop-tries-to-manufacture-character-gap/
Posted by BlueinIdaho on May 20, 2008 at 02:18 PM
Posted by Harpo_has_decided_that_you_are_all_idiots on May 20, 2008 at 01:46 PM
And you, MN Thomass, would be the first one here, OUTRAGED and calling us names, if WE dared cheer the disease of one of your party of slime!
I was waiting to see which one of you scums would be the first to rear your ugly heads over this news, I should have know which one it would be. the one with the lowest class, lowest IQ, lowest integrity ! May God mark down this day, in the book under your name!
Posted by PamB on May 20, 2008 at 02:18 PM
New open thread actually works now.
Posted by MichaelLink on May 20, 2008 at 02:30 PM
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