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all the msm can do is go on and on about all of the obama and the democrats problems...they are so concerned for us!
i sure hope they worry so much next week about mcsame...you know will his melanoma come back, is cindy back on opiates, are we seeing early stage alzheimer symptoms, how will he get the votes of african americans and latinos....
I must admit that the convention has exceeded my expectations by a huge amount. The speeches by Michelle, Schweitzer and Hillary were superbly written and delivered. I have been very critical of the DNC for a few months now but now that the convention is unfolding I will have to give credit where credit is due. Hooah!!! for the DNC! Now I can sit back and enjoy the rest of the convention without waiting for disaster.
we really should have a better working blog for the conventions.
phil, the past eight years has left us all expecting disaster at each turn in the road.
from kos:
"You're a financial planner and you want to invest my retirement savings in scratch tickets?"
"Trust me. I was a POW."
"You're a plumber and you're going to fix my clog with a stick of dynamite?"
"Trust me. I was a POW."
"You're a firefighter and you're going to put out the flames with gasoline?"
"Trust me. I was a POW."
"You're a jeweler and you're going to fix my Rolex with a hammer?"
"Trust me. I was a POW."
"You’re a nuclear physicist and you're giving out 'free samples' of enriched uranium to children?"
"Trust me. I was a POW."
"You're a surgeon and you're using a rusty hacksaw?"
"Trust me. I was a POW."
The dems may have lost the race. Clinton is on the front page of every news paper. Her aids are texting folks that she will be running for Presiden t in '12. And McCain is getting almost as much press as Barack. And Clinton has more press that Barack too at the conversion.
So, Baarck 30% and Clinton 70%,
And no one has the guts or will run ads via 502's about McCain's cancer that regardless of check ups could have McCain dead in a year. And how about him not paying taxes.
This is pathetic. I would why folks don't think Barack can do the job? Thanks to the DNC, etc. It looks like he either is too afriad or stupid.
Just Frank,
Knock off your lying bullshit. I went back and told Butte, that it had nothing to do with Vietnam vets in general!! It had to do with the personality and Ego of this particular man, with FIREMAN license plate as well as all his war trophies! The fact he was against Bill and Hillary was more proof, that he was one of those veterans who were brainwashed (like many who now admit their commanding officers told them who to vote for) !
My brother was there Twice. He was Not spit upon nor harassed by anyone, and there are many google stories saying that was all made up. I will not argue that point, because I do not care, nor was that my point!
So move on, fella. You are getting on my nerves with your Distortions!!!
Posted by PamB on August 26, 2008 at 03:52 PM
Hello Pam – first of all, you really should calm down. Reading through your posts on here you seem to be a keyed-up woman with some serious self-esteem issues. Just settle down and life will improve for you with a bit of luck.
Now, as to your rather rude comments to me regarding what I said in response you your insulting comments about veterans I wonder who you think you are fooling with your backtracking cover up? I went back and read that post of your and without a doubt you were totally out of line.
You happen to pull you car into a parking lot behind a Cadillac (already your envy evident in your use of the term “long gas guzzler”. People with money buy bigger cars. If they didn’t there would be no used Caddies to pass on to those lower income street kings who favor big rides, right? Pam, think carefully, can you name any politicians (pick from either side if you will) who ride around in big cars? If you’re stumped I’ll send you some names, many of which I am sure you will recognize immediately.
Next, the license plate “FIREMN”. You don’t like firemen? Men and women who risk their lives to put out fires and save lives? You should thank them for their duty not try to insult them with references to their “egos”. Yeah, men and women who risk their lives are a cut above the average sluggo. Get over it.
Apparently what seems to have rubbed you raw was the fact that this fireman, this veteran of war who risked life and limb in service to his country and his community had the audacity to display a bumper sticker contrary to your political opinions. WHY THE NERVE!!! No one can have such beliefs other than those that are in agreement with yours? What, we live in a communist regime? I bet if he would have had a bumper sticker that said “BUSH SUCKS” you would have instead been extolling his virtues rather than calling him foul names.
You apparently like make up so much. A big car, a bumper sticker and a few hats in the back window is all you need to weave some fantastic tale of this veteran’s motives, his self esteem, his military career, his commanding officers orders… my God woman you need a long nap!
Seems that comments are lost into the ether! I see others making comments but I can't find them. I will try to trace this one.
Link for comments on front page doesn't work. I wish they would fix it so we could go right to comments when they are made.
Posted by johncook on August 27, 2008 at 10:07 AM
I don't see Hillary coming back in 2012, or ever, for that matter, if what you said about the texting is true. She is shooting herself in the foot. Being a spoiler in your own party does not make for good politics, or for getting people to trust you. She needs to suck it up, and get back to the senate. She has the talent and the position to lead the Senate in a positive direction and really make a difference, provided she stops tripping over her own ego and grows up.
Posted by JustFrank on August 27, 2008 at 10:08 AM
Pam, I don't know why the trolls keep targeting you, but ignore this one, it has troll slime all over it. I don't think that Frank is being very frank at all.
Policy contrasts in Denver
So far, the heavy hitters' attacks on McCain today have largely been on policy, without the derisive references to his personal wealth that mark the campaign's television ads.
Rahm Emanuel hit bread-and-butter economic issues:
This election comes down to a simple question: do we want four more years of Bush-McCain, or do we want the change we need?
There is only one candidate from the middle class that understands the middle class and that can deliver the change the middle class needs: Barack Obama. A strong economy depends on a strong middle class. But George Bush has put the middle class in a hole, and John McCain has a plan to keep digging that hole with George Bush’s shovel.
Under George Bush, median household incomes have declined nearly $1,000. College costs have doubled. Health care costs have doubled. And energy costs have tripled. Under George Bush, you’re paying more and making less.
If John McCain has his way, your bills will continue to grow and your paycheck will continue to shrink. Under George Bush, millions of Americans are without health care. And those that do have health care are seeing their co-pays go up and their coverage go down. If John McCain has his way, we’ll stick with the policies that will leave more Americans uninsured and far too many Americans paying more for health care and getting less.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/Policy_contrasts_in_Denver.html?showall
I agree with gregg, that Warner was a Milktoast! Trying to ride that infamous Center Line!
hillary made a powerful, quotable, exciting pitch for obama...to try to spin this as a deficit for obama is like trying to pretend bush wasn't solely responsible for protecting this country when the world trade center was attacked....and shortly after which he had taken a big crap on mcsame's head in south carolina....what won't be make believe will be bush and mcsame trying to smile while obama is sworn in next january.
Pam & butte, Frank is just a wienie. Ignore.
Pam, I don't know why the trolls keep targeting you, but ignore this one, it has troll slime all over it. I don't think that Frank is being very frank at all.
Posted by Butte on August 27, 2008 at 10:37 AM
troll? what troll? heehee.
with only 70 days to go, who has time for Idiots?
obviously hit a nerve with this one. Still wearing his old camoflage uniform I bet, and makes sure everyone knows he was in the service, but doesn't tell them he got kicked out of the house and told to go sign up , his days of sponging off his parents were through! hahahaha
She has the talent and the position to lead the Senate in a positive direction and really make a difference, provided she stops tripping over her own ego and grows up.
Posted by Butte on August 27, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Butte, i don't thing she is tripping over her ego, she might be the victim of tripping over her Extreme Passion to see a better America, for all of the people, of America. She deeply cares about all of us. She gave a Colossal speech last night.
And Bill will seal the deal tonight, take it to the bank, he'll give a (Super Colossal Speech), I can hardly wait to hear it, it will be great!
Bill and Hillary are one ("Hell of a smart Dynamic Duo").
Barrack and Michele will be the next (" Hell of a smart Dynamic Duo")
We are extremely blessed to have such smart and caring people in are party!
Barrack Obama 2008
Hillary Clinton 2016 which i think she'll still be younger then McNuts.
Hillary's speech was so far and above what I was hoping for!
The part where she talked about the Underground railroad gal who said "If you hear the dogs, keep running. If you see the torches, keep running" gave me goosebumps.
We must educate Americans that FEAR is not an emotion to vote with! That no matter what this Republican party says this time----we now know that the FEAR they tried to generate was all of their own doing! That it was THEM who made us less secure. Who ignored 9/11 warnings. Who are trying to bait Iran and now Russia into provacation! The only thing we have to fear, is Republican Neo Cons!
Were You in This Campaign Just for Me?"
Whether you voted for me, or voted for Barack, the time is now to unite as a single party with a single purpose. We are on the same team, and none of us can sit on the sidelines.
This is a fight for the future. And it's a fight we must win.
I haven't spent the past 35 years in the trenches advocating for children, campaigning for universal health care, helping parents balance work and family, and fighting for women's rights at home and around the world ... to see another Republican in the White House squander the promise of our country and the hopes of our people.
http://www.truthout.org/article/hillary-rodham-clinton-were-you-in-it-just-for-me
any ex-Hillary supporter who does not heed her call to come together now, and make sure another Reublican does not get in, was not truly a Democrat after all.
Here is the Dennis Kucinich video! What a guy!
http://www.truthout.org/article/dennis-kucinich-wake-america
Ok - let me get this straight. We have a guy who's over the top intellegent while they have a guy who blows up at the drop of a hat.
The polls this morning show McAngry is leading Obama on National Security. WTF?
So listen up - for several days some of us were jumping up and down in here saying that we need someone at the convention to start attacking. MSM picked up on that and for the last day and a half have been talking about when the Democrats will attack. I find it erie. Sort of makes one wonder who is lurking in here....
What we need to do right now is start talking up big time about McSames angry touts. Keep bringing them up - with links - discussions - anything..keep the pressure up. Let's see if we can change the poll out there and have MSM address his temper. And the main question should be - "Do we really want a guy with a short fuse with his finger on the button in the White House"?
That should dominate the blog today and tomorrow...
The part where she talked about the Underground railroad gal who said "If you hear the dogs, keep running. If you see the torches, keep running" gave me goosebumps.
It was the best part of her speech. I cried.
Does someone have the transcript of Hillary's speech - we should post it.
Clinton sought inspiration from Harriett Tubman, a runaway slave who entered into American history by shepherding other slaves to freedom via an underground railroad in the 19th century.
"If you hear the dogs, keep going,"
"If you see the torches in the woods, keep going."
"Don't ever stop. Keep going."
Here you go Kathy
CLINTON: Thank you. Thank you all.
Thank you. Thank you all very, very much.
Thank you. Thank you all very much. I…
I am so honored to be here tonight.
You know, I’m — I’m here tonight as a proud mother, as a proud Democrat…
… as a proud senator from New York…
… a proud American…
… and a proud supporter of Barack Obama.
My friends, it is time to take back the country we love. And whether you voted for me or you voted for Barack, the time is now to unite as a single party with a single purpose.
We are on the same team. And none of us can afford to sit on the sidelines. This is a fight for the future, and it’s a fight we must win together.
I haven’t spent the past 35 years in the trenches, advocating for children, campaigning for universal health care, helping parents balance work and family, and fighting for women’s rights here at home and around the world…
… to see another Republican in the White House squander our promise of a country that really fulfills the hopes of our people.
And you haven’t worked so hard over the last 18 months or endured the last eight years to suffer through more failed leadership.
No way, no how, no McCain.
Barack Obama is my candidate, and he must be our president.
Tonight, I ask you to remember what a presidential election is really about. When the polls have closed and the ads are finally off the air, it comes down to you, the American people, and your lives, and your children’s futures.
For me, it’s been a privilege to meet you in your homes, your workplaces, and your communities. Your stories reminded me that, every day, America’s greatness is bound up in the lives of the American people, your hard work, your devotion to duty, your love for your children, and your determination to keep going, often in the face of enormous obstacles.
You taught me so much, and you made me laugh, and, yes, you even made me cry.
You allowed me to become part of your lives, and you became part of mine.
I will always remember the single mom who had adopted two kids with autism. She didn’t have any health insurance, and she discovered she had cancer. But she greeted me with her bald head, painted with my name on it, and asked me to fight for health care for her and her children.
I will always remember the young man in a Marine Corps T-shirt who waited months for medical care. And he said to me, “Take care of my buddies. A lot of them are still over there. And then will you please take care of me?”
And I will always remember the young boy who told me his mom worked for the minimum wage, that her employer had cut her hours. He said he just didn’t know what his family was going to do.
I will always be grateful to everyone from all 50 states, Puerto Rico and the territories…
… who joined our campaign on behalf of all those people left out and left behind by the Bush administration. To my supporters, to my champions, to my sisterhood of the traveling pantsuits…
… from the bottom of my heart, thank you. Thank you, because you never gave in and you never gave up. And together we made history.
And along the way, America lost two great Democratic champions who would have been here with us tonight, one of our finest young leaders, Arkansas Democratic Chair Bill Gwatney, who believed with all his heart…
… that America and the South should be Democratic from top to bottom.
And Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones, a dear friend to many of us, a loving mother, a courageous leader who never gave up her quest to make America fairer and smarter, stronger and better. Steadfast in her beliefs, a fighter of uncommon grace, she was an inspiration to me and to us all.
Our heart goes out to Stephanie’s son, Mervyn, Jr., and Bill’s wife, Rebecca, who traveled here to Denver to join this family of Democrats.
You know, Bill Gwatney and Stephanie Tubbs-Jones knew that, after eight years of George Bush, people are hurting at home and our standing has eroded around the world.
We have a lot of work ahead of us: jobs lost; houses gone; falling wages; rising prices; the Supreme Court in a right-wing headlock; and our government in partisan gridlock; the biggest deficit in our nation’s history; money borrowed from the Chinese to buy oil from the Saudis; Putin and Georgia; Iran and Iraq.
I ran for president to renew the promise of America, to rebuild the middle class and sustain the American dream, to provide opportunity to those who are willing to work hard for it and have that work rewarded, so they could save for college, a home, and retirement, afford gas and groceries, and have a little left over each month.
To promote a clean energy economy that will create millions of green-collar jobs, to create a health care system that is universal, high-quality, and affordable, so that every single parent knows their children will be taken care of.
We want to create a world-class education system and make college affordable again, to fight for an America that is defined by deep and meaningful equality, from civil rights to labor rights, from women’s rights to gay rights…
… from ending discrimination to promoting unionization, to providing help for the most important job there is, caring for our families, and to help every child live up to his or her God-given potential, to make America once again a nation of immigrants and of laws, to restore fiscal sanity to Washington, and make our government an institution of the public good, not of private plunder.
To restore America’s standing in the world, to end the war in Iraq, bring our troops home with honor, care for our veterans, and give them the services they have earned.
We will work for an America again that will join with our allies in confronting our shared challenges, from poverty and genocide to terrorism and global warming.
Most of all, I ran to stand up for all those who have been invisible to their government for eight long years. Those are the reasons I ran for president, and those are the reasons I support Barack Obama for president.
I want you — I want you to ask yourselves: Were you in this campaign just for me, or were you in it for that young Marine and others like him?
Were you in it for that mom struggling with cancer while raising her kids?
Were you in it for that young boy and his mom surviving on the minimum wage?
Were you in it for all the people in this country who feel invisible?
We need leaders once again who can tap into that special blend of American confidence and optimism that has enabled generations before us to meet our toughest challenges, leaders who can help us show ourselves and the world that with our ingenuity, creativity, and innovative spirit, there are no limits to what is possible in America.
Now, this will not be easy. Progress never is. But it will be impossible if we don’t fight to put a Democrat back into the White House.
We need to elect Barack Obama, because we need a president who understands that America can’t compete in the global economy by padding the pockets of energy speculators while ignoring the workers whose jobs have been shipped overseas.
We need a president who understands we can’t solve the problems of global warming by giving windfall profits to the oil companies while ignoring opportunities to invest in the new technologies that will build a green economy.
We need a president who understands that the genius of America has always depended on the strength and vitality of the middle class.
Barack Obama began his career fighting for workers displaced by the global economy. He built his campaign on a fundamental belief that change in this country must start from the ground up, not the top down.
And he knows that government must be about “we the people,” not “we the favored few.”
And when Barack Obama is in the White House, he’ll revitalize our economy, defend the working people of America, and meet the global challenges of our times.
Democrats know how to do this. As I recall, we did it before with President Clinton and the Democrats.
And if we do our part, we’ll do it again with President Obama and the Democrats.
Just think of what America will be as we transform our energy economy, create those millions of jobs, build a strong base for economic growth and shared prosperity, get middle-class families the tax relief they deserve.
And I cannot wait to watch Barack Obama sign into law a health care plan that covers every single American.
And we know that President Obama will end the war in Iraq responsibly, bring our troops home, and begin to repair our alliances around the world. And Barack will have with him a terrific partner in Michelle Obama.
Anyone who saw Michelle’s speech last night knows she will be a great first lady for America.
And Americans are fortunate that Joe Biden will be at Barack Obama’s side … a strong leader, a good man who understands both the economic stresses here at home and the strategic challenges abroad. He’s pragmatic, he’s tough, and he’s wise.
And Joe, of course, will be supported by his wonderful wife, Jill.
They will be a great team for our country.
Now, John McCain is my colleague and my friend. He has served our country with honor and courage. But we don’t need four more years of the last eight years…
AUDIENCE: No!
H. CLINTON: … more economic stagnation and less affordable health care…
AUDIENCE: No!
H. CLINTON: … more high gas prices and less alternative energy…
AUDIENCE: No!
H. CLINTON: … more jobs getting shipped overseas and fewer jobs created here at home…
AUDIENCE: No!
H. CLINTON: … more skyrocketing debt, and home foreclosures, and mounting bills that are crushing middle-class families…
AUDIENCE: No!
H. CLINTON: … more war and less diplomacy…
AUDIENCE: No!
H. CLINTON: … more of a government where the privileged few come first and everyone else comes last.
AUDIENCE: No!
H. CLINTON: Well, John McCain says the economy is fundamentally sound. John McCain doesn’t think 47 million people without health insurance is a crisis. John McCain wants to privatize Social Security. And in 2008, he still thinks it’s OK when women don’t earn equal pay for equal work.
Now, with an agenda like that, it makes perfect sense that George Bush and John McCain will be together next week in the Twin Cities, because these days they’re awfully hard to tell apart.
You know, America is still around after 232 years because we have risen to every challenge in every new time, changing to be faithful to our values of equal opportunity for all and the common good. And I know what that can mean for every man, woman, and child in America.
I’m a United States senator because, in 1848, a group of courageous women, and a few brave men, gathered in Seneca Falls, New York, many traveling for days and nights to participate in the first convention on women’s rights in our history. And so dawned a struggle for the right to vote that would last 72 years, handed down by mother to daughter to granddaughter, and a few sons and grandsons along the way.
These women and men looked into their daughters’ eyes and imagined a fairer and freer world and found the strength to fight, to rally, to picket, to endure ridicule and harassment, and brave violence and jail.
And after so many decades, 88 years ago on this very day, the 19th Amendment, giving women the right to vote, became enshrined in our Constitution.
My mother was born before women could vote. My daughter got to vote for her mother for president. This is the story of America, of women and men who defy the odds and never give up.
So how do we give this country back to them? By following the example of a brave New Yorker, a woman who risked her lives to bring slaves to freedom along the Underground Railroad.
On that path to freedom, Harriet Tubman had one piece of advice: “If you hear the dogs, keep going. If you see the torches in the woods, keep going. If there’s shouting after you, keep going. Don’t ever stop. Keep going. If you want a taste of freedom, keep going.”
And even in the darkest moments, that is what Americans have done. We have found the faith to keep going.
I have seen it. I have seen it in our teachers and our firefighters, our police officers, our nurses, our small-business owners, and our union workers. I’ve seen it in the men and women of our military.
In America, you always keep going. We’re Americans. We’re not big on quitting.
And, remember, before we can keep going, we’ve got to get going by electing Barack Obama the next president of the United States.
We don’t have a moment to lose or a vote to spare. Nothing less than the fate of our nation and the future of our children hangs in the balance.
I want you to think about your children and grandchildren come Election Day. Think about the choices your parents and grandparents made that had such a big impact on your lives and on the life of our nation.
We’ve got to ensure that the choice we make in this election honors the sacrifices of all who came before us and will fill the lives of our children with possibility and hope.
That is our duty, to build that bright future, to teach our children that, in America, there is no chasm too deep, no barrier too great, no ceiling too high for all who work hard, who keep going, have faith in God, in our country, and each other.
That is our mission, Democrats. Let’s elect Barack Obama and Joe Biden for that future worthy of our great country.
Thank you. God bless you, and Godspeed.
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McCain's Age is No Joke
While Ted Kennedy and Michelle Obama were rocking the Democratic convention in Denver, John McCain made his 13th appearance with Jay Leno to joke about his age.
But McCain's age is no joke. He will turn 72 on Friday and would be halfway to 73 if elected and sworn in on January 20. That would make him the oldest first-term President ever, two years older than Ronald Reagan. He has survived four skin cancers (melanomas), including one in 2000 that was classified as Stage IIa.
McCain is two years older than his father was when he died suddenly of a heart attack at 70. He is 11 years older than his grandfather was when he died suddenly of a heart attack at age 61.
The United States cannot afford the risk that McCain would die suddenly in the middle of an international crisis.
Nor can we afford the risk of dementia. 22% of Americans over 70 are affected by mild cognitive impairment, while 13% of Americans over 65 have Alzheimer's. Ronald Reagan was diagnosed with Alzheimer's at age 83, but early signs were evident during his first term. Britain's "Iron Lady" Margaret Thatcher developed dementia at age 75.
McCain has never had an Alzheimer's test, even though he has 6 of the 10 warning signs , including his inability to remember recent facts like the number of homes he owns, the $1M lawsuit he filed in 1990, or the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003.
John McCain owes America a thorough neurological examination for cognitive impairment and possible Alzheimer's long before Election Day.
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thank you chassie - the more I think about that speech last night - the more thrilled I get.
Does everyone else feel the way I do and wonder why the MSM is treating the Democrats with such distain during our convention? CNN is way over the top with spewing hatred. I do believe I shall never watch that channel again
My point is that just like these posts, everyone is talking about her and her husband. Like it or not, folks should be talking about Barack/Biden and their better choces than than the old generation (read McCain is living in the past) -- cheating on his wife, cheatinf at xxx, being a coward and hiding behind his war story, running when he has cancer, not paying his taxes, etc. Being old/experince does not make one smart and he is so behind the new world of technology.
I'm a big fan of H. Clinton. Every minute folks talk about her and her husband and not Barack is hurting the dems chance in Nov. It was a good not great speach that she gave. She did not set up Barack that well. She may have helped with the uniity. But having folks get on natinal TV and say that Barack is not truthful in the process and he is not ready. We dems are in a seriosly bad sitution. I'm in Denver ans everyone on the floor is shocked at the lack of atttacks on McCain. What are our DNC leaders doing??
Nevertheless, in that final hour, with the whole crowd finally paying attention and on its feet, with Hillary Clinton giving Obama more than he had any historical justification to expect, there was the feeling of a convention that had shifted up a gear or two. That must make a candidate exhale in relief. View this article on Time.com
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20080827/us_time/clintondeliversforobama
I am sending a contribution off to Alzheimer's in John McCain's name! I bet they will get a kick out of that !!!!
Maybe if we all do, they will publicize it! teehee
ahahaha. Talk about desperate! Rudy has been wearing his girdles under his dresses much too tight!! You WISH, Rudy, you WISH!!
Hillary's speech helps Republicans: Giuliani
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080827/pl_afp/usvoterrepublicansconvention_080827145801
johncook, take a valium, man, and chill.
Last night's speech was TREMENDOUS! It helped Barack with what it was supposed to do-----tell her supporters that if they do not support Obama, that we will have 4 more years of what we just had.
Perhaps you would like them to stand there and shout obscenities about John McCain. Would you be happy then? Maybe you should just keep the TV off, buddy! You are getting the wrong message.........
Posted by johncook on August 27, 2008 at 11:47 AM
I don't think that you understand. John Cook, the last 2 nights have been about healing, and uniting the party. There is plenty of time left to get out Obama's message, which i think will start the final night of the convention, until election day. With Obama's speech, and i think that Al Gore is going to speank on the final night. Forget about the Clinton's already, we got to heal the party and unite, before we get well, and i think that after Bill's speech tonight will be 98 percent there. And then it will be all about Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To all of the non believers, there is going to be a electrfying atmosphere after tonight, just wait and see. I think that the DNC., and the Obama campaign is doing one hell of a job of bringing all the pieces of the puzzle together.
I am sending a contribution off to Alzheimer's in John McCain's name! I bet they will get a kick out of that !!!!
Maybe if we all do, they will publicize it! teehee
Posted by PamB on August 27, 2008 at 11:54 AM
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That a girl, i like the way you think!
Something that the DC insider talking heads on TV have not mentioned. It is a very good thing. Last I heard a former DNC chair was saying that the present one was not a good fundraiser. That is just insider spin.
Dean has outraised McAuliffe..you just never hear that.
I say thanks to Howard Dean for all he has done. Credit due.
I hope this don't open a can of worms, but have you all noticed, that the trolls, have not been on the blog, since Michele's, and Hillary's speech like they were before! Which tells me that in the back of their little pea brains, they know there wrong and won't admit it.
They must all be converting to Democrats, LOL.
Hee Hee
This is the final straw....the Republicans are not fit to run a nut house.
THE GOP HAS BANKRUPTED THE FDIC
The Republicans are taking us to the brink. It's the Great Depresssion all over again and there is no explanation besides gross corruption and planned negligence...
FDIC may borrow money from Treasury: report
(Reuters) - Federal Deposit Insurance Corp (FDIC) might have to borrow money from the Treasury Department to see it through an expected wave of bank failures, the Wall Street Journal reported.
The borrowing could be needed to cover short-term cash-flow pressures caused by reimbursing depositors immediately after the failure of a bank, the paper said.
The borrowed money would be repaid once the assets of that failed bank are sold.
"I would not rule out the possibility that at some point we may need to tap into (short-term) lines of credit with the Treasury for working capital, not to cover our losses," Chairman Sheila Bair said in an interview with the paper...
news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080827/ts_nm/fdic_treasury_dc
(Emphasis mine.)
A wave of bank failures? Tap into the Treasury? They say it in passing like this is a minor set back?
What assets will cover these withdrawals from the Social Security Fund? Cindy's beer distributorship?
The flithy rich in this country exported all this country's accumulated wealth overseas to places like Mexico, India, and China...along with our jobs and factories. It was the biggest transfer of equity in recorded history.
We have no assets left besides our natural resources...which the multinationals seem to think they already own (maybe Bush sold them in one of his secret treaties?). We're now officially a Banana Republic...by Republican design.
And the GOP is peddaling a senile, trigger-happy, spoiled playboy as the one to save us from the disaster they created? His experience in a POW camp is supposed to prepare us for what's to come next?
No way. No how. No McBush.
I expect Joe Biden and Bill Clinton to be all over this tonight. Re-write those speeches gentlemen...or just tell it like it is.
...So this is what my bank was warning us about last Friday when two employees said to be very careful where we put one of our CDs that was coming due...there was going to be a "big bank" that was going under.
Can't get any bigger than the FDIC.
I can't believe our banking system is no longer sound and middle class people are facing the very real prospect of losing their life's savings...just like they lost their jobs.
This is America?
Those aging, flag-waving, Republican vets and Christian Right hypocrits are now going to reap what they sowed. I hope their children still have some kind of a job and can support them....because they're screwed.
We're all screwed.
After this election I expect the House Judiciary Committtee to take immediate steps to impeach both Bush and Cheney. Dust off the guillotine. Sharpen the blade.
umm - John. I think just the opposit. Look, I was getting very tired listening to the Hillary supporters. But now I feel different. I think she was the driving force to bring unity last night. I have a whole new respect for her.
Sandy - impeachment would be too good for those SOB's
This is the final straw....the Republicans are not fit to run a nut house.
THE GOP HAS BANKRUPTED THE FDIC
And McNuts should be in a nut house, I expected this, when Bear Stears failed. I took most, of what little bit of money i had out of all my accts. and safe guarded in a different direction, that i could'nt afford to loose. I still got a 401 k with Merrill Lynch, and i'm even worried about it. I'm contemplated taking it out and paying the taxes on it, and safe guarding the cash thats left. Even though i know thats not the most purdent thing to do. Its better then loosing it all don't you think? Maybe i'll just take out 40 to 50 percent, and take a chance on the rest.
I can't put up links from my iPod so does anyone have any links
Showing McNuts losing it?
How many things has he forgotten or screwed up?
Posted by johncook on August 27, 2008 at 10:07 AM
Dream on, loser. Have you checked on the solvency of your bank lately?
Are you prepared to take your aging mother and father into your home? Are you trained in hospice care? How about the kids and grandchildren? Do you relish the idea of them all living under your roof and eating up your retirement fund?
Democrats have been forced in the last 15 years to do it all the time.
Welcome to the Brave New World of Republican Economics 101...for Dummies like you. It's Cheney's way of saying, "Good Bye, you suckers. Glad to have used you and can now throw you aside."
We better pray big time that Barack Obama is elected President and there is a Democratic majority in both Houses.
If McCain wins, Cindy will throw you out with the trash.
Sandy - impeachment would be too good for those SOB's
Posted by Kathy_from_Indiana on August 27, 2008 at 12:41 PM
Treason is what comes to mind with me Kathy!
Put them in front of firing squad on MSM for the world to see! And let these Neo Cons were not taking it anymore, that we've had all we can stand.
Kathy, i forgot to say that i don't believe in the death penalty, but these Neo Con SOB deserve it.
Sen. Obama picking Sen. Biden as his running mate didn’t seriously rock the underlying structure of his campaign. Nobody has run around saying the pick was unacceptable or a serious detriment.
But the frontrunners for the veep spot on the GOP side all seem to have downsides that won’t do much to boost the GOP base’s spirits - especially leading into a convention where they will have to give airtime to one of the most unpopular presidents in American history.
* Romney: The religious right is suspicious of Mittens because he is a Mormon and has flip-flopped on abortion depending on the way the wind is blowing. Would bring 10 more homes to the GOP ticket. McCain seems to loathe him, but the GOP press loves him.
* Pawlenty: Mostly a snooze, and probably won’t rock the boat. But that won’t fire up anybody.
* Lieberman: Jewish, pro-choice.
* Ridge: Pro-choice.
* Kean: Pro-choice.
McCain needs an anti-choice pro-war Republican with supoort from the evangelicals and the corporate interests, but who is also popular with the party. Maybe McCain will embrace the “more of the same” mantle and just pick Bush to be his running mate.
The fight for Rural America:
Obama had about 40 field offices before the Iowa caucuses and has established 30 offices in Iowa for the general election. His campaign has also organized canvassing in dozens of Iowa towns this summer (see here and here). In August, surrogates for Obama are holding
numerous "rural roundtables" across Iowa to focus on issues affecting small-town and rural residents.
John McCain has six field offices in Iowa, none of them in small towns. I haven't heard of a lot of campaign activity on his behalf in small towns either.
Obama has already opened 31 field offices in Missouri, which isn't even one of his campaign's top red state targets. McCain has six campaign offices in that state.
Let's turn to Ohio, a state McCain must hold if he is to have any chance of winning 270 electoral votes. McCain has nine campaign offices in Ohio (although there's no phone or e-mail contact information for these offices on the McCain Ohio website). Obama will have 56 offices supporting his field operation in Ohio, and 44 of those offices are already open.
I don't consider Minnesota much of a battleground state in light of recent polling. But since Yepsen mentioned it, and McCain may select Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty as his running mate, where do the candidates stand? Obama has 11 field offices in Minnesota, while McCain has seven.
It's more lopsided in Wisconsin: Obama has 31 field offices, while McCain has six.
More here
chasie/Kathy,
The 24/7 media divas are still talking about the Clinton rift. They don't get it. Democrats want to win. It's like Hillary said...we have to win or this country is done.
Only a bunch of media whores and bimbo don't get it.
McCain jumps the shark:
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/27/shark-jump-watch-pow-card-edition/
Obama scores with rank-and-file workers
(The following story by Tom Curry appeared at MSNBC.com on August 26.)
DENVER — Every analyst and pollster has their favorite demographic slice of the electorate pie.
And it's always the one they consider absolutely crucial to the outcome on Nov. 4.
Some say it's Catholics, some say it’s single women, and still some others say it's rural voters in Midwestern states like Missouri. And of course, don't forget about voters over the age of 65.
For organized labor, the decisive demographic consists of rank-and-file workers — those who belong to a union or who labor leaders think ought to belong to a union.
So far, Obama has not run a hard-edged, aggressively populist campaign to woo these voters.
Nonetheless, a survey conducted by Democratic pollster Celinda Lake indicates that Obama has a huge 19-point lead over Sen. John McCain among such potential voters.
Could workers swing away from Obama?
But Lake said these non-supervisory workers “are very much swing voters — particularly white working-class voters. Democrats have lost them in some elections.”
She implied that while Obama can’t take them for granted, he has the ability to bulk up his lead.
"If he engages more aggressively and in a more populist way in this economic message, he has the potential to make huge inroads here,” she said at convention briefing in Denver.
Lake said, "The race is not over yet. The race is even among white working Americans and that will continue to be a battleground until the day before the election.”
Lake interviewed 700 non-supervisory workers from Aug. 13 to Aug. 19. She focused on workers who aren’t managers, executives, professionals or small business owners.
Her polling was commissioned by the labor union coalition, Change to Win.
Obama ahead so why should Dems fret?
So, if you’re a labor union Democrat, and if Obama is ahead among non-supervisory workers, why worry?
One possibility is that Obama might win on Election Day without running a hard-edged, aggressively populist campaign — and he might not need organized labor as much as it would like to be needed.
Pollster Lake makes the sensible point that a robust performance by Obama among one demographic in which he’s already leading could help offset weaknesses in other groups.
Case in point: If Obama can do even better among non-supervisory workers than current polling indicates, it’ll help offset his lackluster performance among voters over the age of 65.
“Seniors are his worst voting group,” Lake noted.
“It’s directly proportional to age,” meaning the older the voter, the less likely he or she is to say he or she would vote for Obama.
Lake didn’t limit her survey to registered voters, but instead cast her polling net widely among non-supervisory workers — the idea being that some of them to could still be persuaded to register and vote on Election Day.
Anna Burger, a top official of the Service Employees International Union, said, “Obama has a strong economic message — but I don’t think it has been heard enough in the community. He needs to do more.”
Union ad warns of foreign investors
It’s noteworthy that SEIU has been airing a television ad that ominously warns of foreign investors buying stakes in U.S.-based companies. It's an ad that is far harsher than anything the Obama campaign has aired and is a world apart from its usual uplifting, non-confrontational campaign themes.
Will this become a part of the Obama message too? “I don’t know that he’s gone that far yet — but we’ll see where he goes next week,” Burger said.
But is it a risky strategy if Obama starts sounding hard-edged, populist and anti-foreign investment?
Would such rhetoric from Obama alienate managers, executives, professionals and small business owners who might otherwise be inclined to vote for him?
Lake doesn't think so, but says it will be worth listening closely to the tone of the Obama ads and speeches come October.
Even if Obama is elected, there’s the danger, from organized labor’s point of view, that he or Congress might not press the economic agenda as forcefully as SEIU and other unions might want.
As an insurance policy, SEIU will keep its organizers dispersed around the country after the election just to make sure.
“We think it’s really important to make sure that what we try to accomplish on Election Day actually gets accomplished,” Burger said.
“So we will have as many members in the field after Election Day as we do before Election Day. We think the critical time is between January and June in terms of being able to move forward on critical issues such as health care for every man woman and child in America.”
She added, “We’ve said that we have his back. We’re going to be out there making sure senators and Congress members understand the critical issues they need to vote on come January, February and March.”
The 24/7 media divas are still talking about the Clinton rift. They don't get it. Democrats want to win. It's like Hillary said...we have to win or this country is done.
Only a bunch of media whores and bimbo don't get it.
Posted by SandyH on August 27, 2008 at 01:06 PM
Hillary: NO WAY, NO HOW, NO MCNUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good for Tubin and Bernstein.
They are going after one of the media bimbos. Who cares if Bill Clinton attends Obama's speech? It's not about Bill; he's retired. He can go fishing after he makes a great speech tonight of not.
It's about Hillary. And she's going to be there.
Will Bush be on the stage when McCain makes his speech?
The GOP has the media whores spinning like tops to keep them away from discussing things like....
The FDIC is bankrupt.
Heaven forbid that the media talks about one of the biggest news stories since the Great Depression.
Instead it's all about which pant suit is Hillary going to wear? The corporate media is still treating her like some dingbat and Obama like he's her pet.
They better get professional and start acting like journalists.
Obama is going to be in charge of the White House and Hillary in charge of the Senate...and they are the only thing that can stop a total collapse of our economy and American Way of Life.
Duh.
sandy, blue and chassie, you want to talk about a grassroots movement. Here in very red Indiana, there is a bunch of activiety starting. It's been going on but I've seen much more in the last few days! More offices are opening up, but more - Women for Obama are planning to meet every Wednesday to do phone banking, they are organizing to walk every Saturday in neighborhoods all across northern Indiana and I'm going to a "Women for Obama Welcoming Women for Hillary" meeting next Wednesday! The Obama people are all over northern Indiana. I've never seen anything like this in the 36 years I've lived here - never!
Posted by Kathy_from_Indiana on August 27, 2008 at 01:22 PM
Thats really great Kathy, i lived in Washington Indiana for 40 years, before moving to s. georgia 23 years ago, which is just as red as Indiana, it don't seem like my vote has ever counted for anything, but i have not gave up. I'll be working between s. georgia and nothern florida. From one fellow Hoosier to another, i hope we can do some good good luck to you girl.
Has anyone heard of the company out in Iowa - s grain company employing 500 or so employees who has locked out the union? Management wouldn't sit down and talk contract. Instead they went out and put up a fence around the plant, hired paid thugs and told everyone that they didn't have a job - even those who were non-union. Management is attempting to hire scabs as a result. I haven't heard anything on the news about this... does anyone have any info on this?
chassie - just keep thinking what Hillary said last night - if they say we won't win - keep going, if you heard the media talk down about Obama, keep writing, if you see a poll that has us down, keep posting, if you see a McCain bumper sticker, go to MoveOn.org and buy 50 of them for $20 and give them away.
Speaking of which - I did buy 100 bumper stickers from MoveOn.org for I think $20 and I'm giving these away at our next monthly meeting...
Posted by SandyH on August 27, 2008 at 01:21 PM
Best quote I read lately:
Pundits don't elect Presidents, people do.
Ignore the MSM.
Blue: Yesterday, I was trying to send you a post and I got cut off. I don't know what happened. Anyway, what I was trying to tell you about was while the idiot was shooting people in a Unity Church in East Tennessee (7 or 8 hours away from me) I was handing out literature for Bob Tuke for Senate at a Unity Church here. Talk about nightmares!
Also, about the "jump the shark" post - I couldn't get it to load - was it about McLame overplaying his POW card, again?
Posted by Kathy_from_Indiana on August 27, 2008 at 01:41 PM
What do the Bumper Stickers say and can I order some too? Web Site for ordering?
Thanks
“She’s got to [prove her patriotism]! She’s a Democrat. She must prove she loves America, as opposed to Republicans who everyone knooows love America. They just hate half the people living in it.”
Gawd, without republicans we would be so bored...
Our letter to the editor page presented an interesting viewpoint about religion and politics in this election cycle, particularly as it pertains to repugs attacks on Obama's faith. While Muslims have no reason to support the McShame candidacy, there is good reason for people of all faiths to rile against the outrageous campaign by the right wing repugs.
Mr Khan writes, "While I am a non-practicioner, even a non-believer, I feel compelled to come to the defense of Muslims because of the insinuations and innuendos swiling around the candidacy of Barack Obama. I support Obama for president because I believe he is the more competent and compassionate candidate. Those who are attempting to tear him down have launched a scurrilous, whispering campaign that he may not be a Christian or that he is a closet Muslim. Yet those who point out the fallacy in this claim do so in a way that makes Muslims cringe. the main point is not whether he's Muslim, WHICH HE IS NOT, but why should it matter for contention and serious discussion?
'Being a Muslim is not a crime any more than being Catholic, Jewish, Hindu, agnostic or even atheist. AND AMERICA OF ALL PLACES AND OF ALL PEOPLES SHOULD UNDERSTAND THIS. THE PILGRIMS SAILED ACROSS THE ATLANTIC TO ESCAPE RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION. THIS LAND WAS FOUNDED ON THE PRICIPLES OF FREEDOM IN RELIGION AND FREEDOM FROM RELIGION--THE FUNDAMENTAL NOTION BEING THAT NO ONE FAITH OR PEOPLE IS PRIVELEGED OVER ANY OTHER."
The right wing repugs don't seem to care much about our American morality and principles, it's just a matter of doing anything and everythng to get elected, it's about greed and power, and it is dependent upon an uninformed, simplistic voter base. Aniother reason this election is so important, it's about getting our country back and regaining or moral compass.
Hillary couldn't have said it better: "None of us can afford to sit on the sidelines."
This is our one shot, so let's roll up our sleeves -- or risk another four or eight years of the same disastrous Bush-McCain policies.
This is particularly distressing:
In the midst of all the convention hooplah, some important stories get missed. That seems to be the case with the tale of Bush ambassador to the UN, Zalmay Khalilzad, who has been engaged in some very irregular cozying up with Pakistani presidential hopeful Asif Zardari.
Bush ambassador: the next president of Afghanistan?
Posted by marymac_memphis on August 27, 2008 at 01:54 PM
Yep, so far McBush's jump the shark moment is his frequent flyer POW card.
Posted by Kathy_from_Indiana on August 27, 2008 at 01:22 PM
Kathy,
I'm so happy to hear that the Obama people have moved into Indiana and are staying.
They have a strong group working in our area, too. It's not just interns this election. We have well-seasoned, older organizers working with these enthusiastic kids. Volunteers are being trained and put in position where they will reap the most votes.
It's great that the Obama people are taking the time to properly greet the HillRaisers and let them know how much we appreciate their joining in.
We are united in purpose.
And we are convincing Independents that they have a viable alternative. I have a feeling Bill Clinton can't help but admire the way this movement is being managed and taking us into places Democrats never used to tread.
That was always his complaint. Democrats didn't click with lots of folks because we didn't reach out to them.
And I'm surprised at the reception we are getting even in hostile territory. When a Republican invites you in for a margarita at their pool party when you are canvassing for a Democrat...you know they are impressed, too.
Sounds like you are going to be really busy, Kathy. Me, too.
That goes for eveyone else. Get involved if you're not already hooked up with your local Obama and/or Governor or Senate race offices, people. These are excitng times to be a Democrat.
The bumper stickers are on MoveOn.org, one free, or order more for cash.
Or go to cafepress.com for a huge variety of them.
Here's also an action request from MoveOn. How many of you want to do some Phone Banking???
Last night, Hillary Clinton spoke at the Democratic convention, reminding us that, "We don't have a moment to lose or a vote to spare ... We've got to get going by electing Barack Obama the next president of the United States."1
That starts with a massive Weekend of Action to register and mobilize supportive voters. We need your help today to turn out as many volunteers as possible at Obama campaign events in states where the race is closest. Can you spend 20 minutes tonight calling MoveOn members and inviting them to nearby events?
This is one of the most important things you can do to help elect Obama, and it's an easy way to get involved. Can you join us? Click here to sign up:
http://pol.moveon.org/obama/weekendofaction/?id=13600-3347291-p5TECIx&t=3
No matter where you live, you can have a major impact on the election by making a few phone calls tonight. With fewer than 70 days left until the election and big events planned for this weekend, there's no time to waste—each person who starts volunteering now because of your call could turn out hundreds of additional voters by November.
If you've ever called MoveOn members during one of our previous campaigns, you know how much fun it can be. Your fellow MoveOn members are good folks, and many will appreciate your call. You can practice reading through the calling script, and then start calling MoveOn members.
Here's what other MoveOn members who've made similar calls in the past have said about it:
"A great experience all around—I have worked on MANY campaigns, and done a LOT of phone banking, but your scripts and materials were really excellent."—Theresa L.
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You don't need to know anything special—our phone tool will walk you through the process and give you all the info you need. However, you will need to be able to be on the phone (land line or cell phone) and the Internet at the same time.
If you have any questions, the webpage below includes answers to frequently asked questions and a way to email other MoveOn members for help. Go ahead, click now to join us and get started.
http://pol.moveon.org/obama/weekendofaction/?id=13600-3347291-p5TECIx&t=5
Thanks for all you do.
–Adam, Ray, Tanya, Matt and the rest of the team
Posted by CalDemo on August 27, 2008 at 02:06 PM
CalDemo,
This is another example of the Rove spin machine.
They send out these phoney letters expressing views no Republican would ever have.
Tell me, just how many Bush Republicans do you know who care about the rights of Muslims or anybody else for that matter?
Now that you raised the subject, where does anyone in this Republic think they have a right to call us a Chrisian nation? That would be a Theocracy. Our founders would have been repulsed by the very idea.
My sister-in-law recently found out while doing some geneology research that one of my husband's family had to flee Massachusetts and settle in Rhode Island because he refused to practice the prevailing religion where he lived at the time.
Republicans would like us to forget our own American history and disregard what the Consitution is all about. I hope Bob Barr makes this perfectly clear during his campaign.
Isn't it sad when we have to depend on renegade Republicans to police their own bigots? That their own Party has abandoned the Consitution and Bill of Rights?
Pitiful.
This morning,
E-mail from Pammy
To Sandy and the other commie asshats, more gibberish, post more gibberish, we need lots of gibberish.
We cannot elect an empty suit without lots of nonsense and gibberish!
Michael Moore's on Meet the Bloggers says we Dems have to stop being nice guys and start playing to win. We've got to fight like we want to win this. Yep, but we've got to time it wisely.
Posted by Kathy_from_Indiana on August 27, 2008 at 01:35 PM
I hadn't heard of that, but incident that they could bring up in Iowa is that the Japanese company BIC has packed up and moved the Sheaffer Pen plant out of Fort Madison Iowa to somewhere overseas, and put all the local employees out of work.
The Sheaffer Pen Company was founded around the turn of the last century by Walter A Sheaffer, a local jeweler, and had a reputation for fine pens and mechanical pencils. Now all that's left of this company, in its home town is an empty building. It goes beyond losing jobs, there were families with three generations of workers at that plant.
Rumor has it that BIC bought the company because they wanted a couple of patents that Sheaffer's had. One was for the mechanism for the convertible pen/marker, that BIC has now come out with.
As a disclaimer, I admit that I take it a little personally because my dad worked for Sheaffer's for 42 years before he retired and my brother-in-law worked in the R&D department for about 20 years.
They ought to do a ad with interviews of local residents, and shots of the empty building, an impressive building until BIC let it get run down, and the empty stores in the business district.
I did buy 100 bumper stickers from MoveOn.org for I think $20 and I'm giving these away at our next monthly meeting...
Posted by Kathy_from_Indiana on August 27, 2008 at 01:41 PM
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You could have sent that $20 bucks to Obamas brother, he has not had anything to eat in days.
Not that Obama cares.
It amazes me when I read that Obama is polling well among seniors.
Who said that voters vote their self-interest? Because these seniors, of which I am one, surely realize that if McCain takes office, Social Security will be transformed into yet another for-profit program that benefits only those who don't need it: bankers, brokers and speculators. Then when the next big bubble - the Social Security trust fund investment bubble - bursts leaving retirees empty-handed, hey, who could have guessed? Who indeed?
But anybody who's been listening knows that the goals of the NeoCons - and McCain has pledged allegiance to that crowd - is to eliminate all goverment programs that don't directly enrich the already rich. Seriously. I understand Grover Cleaveland and McCain are good buddies. Together they hope to finish off what remains of social programs and drown the dregs of our government in the muddy waters of NeoCon idiocy. We can't have that. I don't believe seniors support McCain over the man who has sworn to protect us.
How about this gibberish, Dan:
AP
Schwarzenegger could be no-show at GOP convention
By JULIET WILLIAMS, Associated Press Writer
SACRAMENTO, Calif. - When the Republican convention opens Monday night, its prime-time lineup could be missing one of its biggest draws: California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Shackled by the mundane business of state government, Schwarzenegger is vowing to remain in California if lawmakers fail to reach agreement on a state budget, now two months overdue.
"The work for the people of California, and to solve this budget problem, is the most important thing right now for me," Schwarzenegger said Wednesday during a news conference in Los Angeles...
This man knows a dull party when he sees it. Add him to the long list who are not going to attend Cindy's beer blast in St. Paul.
But I bet he'd attend the rock concert in Denver tomorrow if Maria can get him a ticket.
When a Republican declines an invitation because he says has to work, you know he's lying.
haha.
Hi Pam!
Thanks for the info about the stickers. I already found them and ordered 50.
I got this in my email this morning from the ACLU:
Dear ACLU Supporter,
George W. Bush has launched a new assault on birth control and reproductive freedom.
Late last week, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) proposed regulations that could seriously undermine access to basic reproductive health services -- including birth control and abortion.
Instead of striking a careful balance between individual religious liberty and patients’ access to reproductive health care, the Bush administration has taken patients’ rights and their health care needs out of the equation.
We have less than 30 days to stop these new rules from being enacted. Take a stand now.
The rule leaves open the possibility that -- based on religious beliefs -- institutions and individuals can deny women access to birth control. It also permits individuals to refuse to provide information and counseling about basic heath care services. And it expands existing laws by permitting a wider range of health care professionals to refuse to provide even referrals for abortions.
Act fast to protect access to basic care for the millions of Americans who depend on federally funded health care services.
This far-reaching proposal doesn’t need congressional approval. But, it can’t go forward without allowing for public comment. That’s where you come in.
Tell the Department of Health and Human Services to stop efforts to block women’s access to basic reproductive health services. Submit your comments now.
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 27, 2008 at 03:42 PM
Monitoring his health, are we? Or are you hovering around above like a vulture waiting to pick the bones clean?
I'm surprised you Republicans are even making the effort to spin this story considering that the kid doesn't have a pocket to pick.
Barack Obama's Plan
Jumpstart the Economy
Provide Additional Tax Rebates to American Workers: The economy has continued to weaken significantly, despite congressional action to provide immediate tax rebates to American consumers. Stimulus: $20 billion.
Establish a $10 billion Foreclosure Prevention Fund: Given the downturn in the economy, Obama is calling for immediate creation of his Foreclosure Prevention Fund that will dramatically increase emergency pre-foreclosure counseling, and will help families facing foreclosure to responsibly refinance their mortgages or sell their homes. Obama’s plan will not help speculators, people buying vacation homes or people that falsely represented their incomes. It is meant to help responsible homeowners through this difficult period. Stimulus: $10 billion.
Provide $10 billion in Relief for State and Local Governments Hardest-Hit by the Housing Crisis to Prevent Cuts in Vital Services: Because of the housing crisis and the weakening economy, many state and local governments are facing significant revenue shortfalls. Barack Obama believes that in the areas hardest-hit by the housing crisis we should provide immediate, temporary funding to state and local governments so that the decline in property values does not cause them to slash critical public services and cut vital infrastructure spending. Stimulus: $10 billion.
Extend and Expand Unemployment Insurance: Barack Obama believes we must extend and strengthen the Unemployment Insurance (UI) program to address the needs of the long-term unemployed, who currently make up nearly one-fifth of the unemployed and are often older workers who have lost their jobs in manufacturing or other industries and have a difficult time finding new employment. Expanding UI is one of the most effective ways to combat economic turmoil; every dollar invested in UI benefits results in $1.73 in economic output. Obama is calling for a temporary expansion of the UI program for those who have exhausted their current eligibility. Stimulus: $10 billion.
Posted by SandyH on August 27, 2008 at 03:49 PM
Spin?
Look it up and not on a dopey loony left site.
Provide Middle Class Americans Tax Relief
Obama will cut income taxes by $1,000 for working families to offset the payroll tax they pay.
Provide a Tax Cut for Working Families: Obama will restore fairness to the tax code and provide 150 million workers the tax relief they need. Obama will create a new "Making Work Pay" tax credit of up to $500 per person, or $1,000 per working family. The "Making Work Pay" tax credit will completely eliminate income taxes for 10 million Americans.
Eliminate Income Taxes for Seniors Making Less than $50,000: Barack Obama will eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than $50,000 per year. This proposal will eliminate income taxes for 7 million seniors and provide these seniors with an average savings of $1,400 each year. Under the Obama plan, 27 million American seniors will also not need to file an income tax return.
Simplify Tax Filings for Middle Class Americans: Obama will dramatically simplify tax filings so that millions of Americans will be able to do their taxes in less than five minutes. Obama will ensure that the IRS uses the information it already gets from banks and employers to give taxpayers the option of pre-filled tax forms to verify, sign and return. Experts estimate that the Obama proposal will save Americans up to 200 million total hours of work and aggravation and up to $2 billion in tax preparer fees.
Here we go again.
What part of middle income tax cuts don't my Troll Brothers understand?
This morning,
E-mail from Pammy
To Sandy and the other commie asshats, more gibberish, post more gibberish, we need lots of gibberish.
We cannot elect an empty suit without lots of nonsense and gibberish!
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 27, 2008 at 03:26 PM
Who is going to pay the mountain of debt incurred during the idiots reign?
Do you really think any imagined tax increase you may have will be more than the cost of the Republican lead deregulation schemes?
Does the cost of electric, natural gas, gasoline, banking fees and on and on register in your "I'M AFRAID THEY ARE GOING TO RAISE MY TAXES" pea brains?
Doesn't the fact that the money is concentrating at the top levels (and no you are not at the top level numbsy) faster than anytime in history register?
What the hell is wrong with you people? Are you stupid?
Barack Obama's Record
Housing: In the U.S. Senate, Obama introduced the STOP FRAUD Act to increase penalties for mortgage fraud and provide more protections for low-income homebuyers, well before the current subprime crisis began.
Predatory Lending: In the Illinois State Senate, Obama called attention to predatory lending issues. Obama sponsored legislation to combat predatory payday loans, and he also was credited with lobbying the state to more closely regulate some of the most egregious predatory lending practices.
American Jobs: Barack Obama introduced the Patriot Employer Act of 2007 to provide a tax credit to companies that maintain or increase the number of full-time workers in America relative to those outside the US; maintain their corporate headquarters in America; pay decent wages; prepare workers for retirement; provide health insurance; and support employees who serve in the military.
Barack Obama's Record
Housing: In the U.S. Senate, Obama introduced the STOP FRAUD Act to increase penalties for mortgage fraud and provide more protections for low-income homebuyers, well before the current subprime crisis began.
Predatory Lending: In the Illinois State Senate, Obama called attention to predatory lending issues. Obama sponsored legislation to combat predatory payday loans, and he also was credited with lobbying the state to more closely regulate some of the most egregious predatory lending practices.
American Jobs: Barack Obama introduced the Patriot Employer Act of 2007 to provide a tax credit to companies that maintain or increase the number of full-time workers in America relative to those outside the US; maintain their corporate headquarters in America; pay decent wages; prepare workers for retirement; provide health insurance; and support employees who serve in the military.
Posted by Butte on August 27, 2008 at 03:30 PM
Butte: What makes it worse is that the Repugs voted to provide them with tax breaks and other incentives for taking the American Jobs elsewhere. Just one of the many, many reasons that I HATE the current administration and just about any/every one that has a red "R" behind their name!
Posted by BlueinIdaho on August 27, 2008 at 01:05 PM
Blue,
Part of McCain's problem may be that they can't find enough Young Republicans willing to staff field offices. A lot of these college students are Ron Paul and Bob Barr enthusiasts.
The Christian Right doesn't get it's hands dirty in GOP politics....unless it's from the pulpit. So who's left to man the phones?
Posted by SandyH on August 27, 2008 at 03:44 PM
The California budget problems were caused when they tried to put a socialist heath care plan in place, you know like you fools want to do to the rest of the country.
Soooo why is it, a kneejerk like dan the idiot is posting all night and day and seems to have little if any trouble posting on this screwed up DEMOCRATIC blog?
Posted by SandyH on August 27, 2008 at 03:49 PM
Don't go trolling now....
These idiots, who would just as soon see any non-white thrown under the nearest Straight Talk Express bus, are crying crocodile tears for a man whom Barack barely knows and is related to him only by the fact that when his father abandoned his family he managed to have more children in another country.
Somehow Obama is supposed to take personal responsibility for every child his estranged father managed to create----yet their GOP heads spin around if they're required to pay for private education of their own children!
Meanwhile, their candidate abandoned his first wife b/c she was disfigured; had an affair with a woman half his age; lived off her fortune for the last couple decades; and his new spouse won't even acknowledge she has a sister!
Cry me a river...bunch of fake tears.
California also chased out its industry and businesses by raising taxes and the silly EPA BS. Not enough left to pay Taxes.
What the hell is wrong with you people? Are you stupid?
Posted by chassie on August 27, 2008 at 03:54 PM
I'll answer for Dan as he's too busy trying to keep Rudy away from the computers in the War Room again.
"How do I legally get out of anwering this? What is you definition of wrong? Stupid is what my wife calls me."
Gotta run some errands. bbl.
Gee, I will bet Cindy McCain's 2 step sisters could use a hand out too, seeing as one got nothing from the old man, and the other only $10,000. Makes ya wonder what ole Cindy had on the old man, doesn't it? All that oxycotin, so little time is her motto!
Good job, Blue.
What happened to the preview button? It doesn't work. I'm scared to post anymore without previewing. I make too many mistakes.
BBL
Somehow Obama is supposed to take personal responsibility for every child his estranged father managed to create
Posted by Blew
Well if thats the case dummy, why do you think the tax payer should support every little bastard in this country?
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 27, 2008 at 03:58 PM
If Arnold reversed every bad decison that St. Reagan made in California he'd have a surplus...and you know it.
Posted by SandyH on August 27, 2008 at 04:06 PM
As I see it, that is 20 words and roughly 4 dots that you wasted on the POS Troll. Why bother? He has an IQ the size of Bush 43....do you know what kind of mental gymnastics it takes to get down to that level????
bbl.
Cactus all you do is get on here and sling mud, tell us numbsy, tell us what is important to you For America? Let me guess, Pro Gun, even bazookas, for numbsy's like you, anti abortion, anti gays, anti health care, pro corporate America, pro war. Have i got it about right there numbsy.
Dan_A_Cactus how may litle bastards do you have are out thier
Well if thats the case dummy, why do you think the tax payer should support every little bastard in this country?
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 27, 2008 at 04:06 PM
We're already supporting sally*'s. Your earlier concern for that young African student didn't seem to last too long.
Sorry, Blue. I'm out of here.
Posted by SandyH on August 27, 2008 at 04:06 PM
Weak Sandy, very weak, too many democrats have gone through that office since Reagan did 40 years ago.
young African student?
Do you have a link for that Sandy?
Soooo why is it, a kneejerk like dan the idiot is posting all night and day and seems to have little if any trouble posting on this screwed up DEMOCRATIC blog?
Posted by johnyfaster on August 27, 2008 at 04:00 PM
well, you see, johny, the old troll has Zero life. He IS here 24/7. Isn't it odd, his wife never needs him to do any jobs, he has no lawn to maintain, she could care less about his company? and then, his kids only call when they need something, and that is not often because they are enjoying the fruits of what the Democrats in this State have given them in this wonderful country of the USA ! He has no hobbies, no community service, no political service.
So, we just ignore him, let him spread out all his hate here, so then he does not kick the wife and dog! :)
tell us what is important to you For America? Let me guess, Pro Gun, even bazookas, for numbsy's like you, anti abortion, anti gays, anti health care, pro corporate America, pro war.
Posted by chassie on August 27, 2008 at 04:12 PM
Me and half you base of Buledog democrats, dopey.
Hope they talk about this tonight, when they talk about how insecure and unsafe this administration has made the US !
Bush's Deal With Iraq: A Time Bomb Set to Explode
("Iraq, like Vietnam, is a conflict where political realities on the ground will trump America's overwhelming military force," writes Steve Weissman. (Photo: Agence France-Presse))
Back in January, the Bush administration proposed a Status of Forces Agreement to govern relations between American troops and the Iraqis after the UN mandate expires in December 2008. Both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton accused the White House of trying to tie the hands of a future American president and many Democrats in Congress voiced the same concern. Even at the time, any agreement had to be less than a binding treaty, which would have required confirmation by an impossible two-thirds vote of the US Senate.
Now, at the end of August, the Bush administration is still trying to cobble together a much-reduced memo of understanding with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, who is doing much of his negotiating through public statements. Even if he finally agrees to Washington's terms, the deal would still be far from done. The Iraqi Parliament would still have to approve it, and the followers of Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr have already taken to the streets to express their opposition to what they've heard so far. In their view, the current understanding would turn Iraq into a US colony.
http://www.truthout.org/article/bushs-deal-with-iraq-a-time-bomb-set-explode
I agree.........
Denver - The best way to watch a political convention is on C-Span. That way Americans can make their own judgments unfiltered, without being told what to think by the nattering nabobs of TV commentary
http://www.truthout.org/article/the-democratic-national-convention-unfiltered
Posted by PamB on August 27, 2008 at 04:23 PM
Speaking of Daddys running off, hows your little bastard grandson pammy?
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 27, 2008 at 04:24 PM
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As per usual you did'nt anwser the question's numbsy. Answer these questions, numbsy.
Who is going to pay the mountain of debt incurred during the idiots reign?
Do you really think any imagined tax increase you may have will be more than the cost of the Republican lead deregulation schemes?
Does the cost of electric, natural gas, gasoline, banking fees and on and on register in your "I'M AFRAID THEY ARE GOING TO RAISE MY TAXES" pea brains?
Doesn't the fact that the money is concentrating at the top levels (and no you are not at the top level numbsy) faster than anytime in history register?
What the hell is wrong with you people? Are you stupid?
So, we just ignore him, let him spread out all his hate here, so then he does not kick the wife and dog! :)
Posted by PamB on August 27, 2008 at 04:23 PM
Oh Come On! He can't possibly have a wife, even an ignorant re-thug-lican female would have better sense than to marry something slimy like the Dumb Ass Cactus and I am quite sure even the dog had sense enough to run off the first chance that he got! Pam - you are just too kind to these trolls!
As I see it, that is 20 words and roughly 4 dots that you wasted on the POS Troll. Why bother? He has an IQ the size of Bush 43....do you know what kind of mental gymnastics it takes to get down to that level????
Posted by BlueinIdaho on August 27, 2008 at 04:11 PM
Blue, I have said it since this sore loser nazi loving Repug came in here! You can TELL his IQ is very low, by what and how he posts. He is totally totally ignorant, and how he made it to this point in life boggles the mind.
I love it that he worries so much about tax payers paying for children, YET HE sits there collecting SS given him by Democrats, enjoys Medicare given by Democrats, drives on roads and bridges that Democrats saw there was enough money to build. Any air he breathes that is clean is thanks to Democrats. The clean water he drinks is thanks to Democrats. Everything this chunky, ignorant little man has or does is thanks to Democrats, he is just too stupid to understand it.
A Day In the Life of Joe Republican
Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.
All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance -- now Joe gets it, too.
Joe prepares his morning breakfast; bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.
In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and the amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.
Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air.
He walks on the government-provided sidewalk to subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.
Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union.
If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.
It is noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FDIC (or the NCUA, if he's part of a credit union) because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.
Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime. Joe also forgets that his in addition to his federally subsidized student loans, he attended a state funded university.
Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards to go along with the tax-payer funded roads.
He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans.
The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.
He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.
Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have." (bwhahahahahahaha)
Pam don't let Danny Boy get under your skin, and btw he is a boy. He act like a child born out of wedlock is the first one in history. Not really he just wants to belittle you, cuz he knows that your a smart, and articulate, progressive Democrat. So F@@K him, and the horse he rode in on. I wonder how many bastards are in his family? I know he hates them, even though they didn't have any say in it. Like you have said many times, little men with little pea brains, that is not worthy of a intelligent person's conversation.
Poor, poor Robert or RJ, dead and nobody cares, I guess nobody on this blog liked him, Pammy claimed to, but we know she lies.
By 48% to 43%, Americans surveyed by Gallup say Obama would better handle the issue of taxes than John McCain. And with good reason. As the Washington Post detailed, an analysis by the Tax Policy Center showed:
“Obama’s plan gives the biggest cuts to those who make the least, while McCain would give the largest cuts to the very wealthy.”
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/27/despite-cnn-distortion-americans-prefer-obama-tax-plan/
A day in the life of Pammy,
My pants are cutting into my waist, and I think that is a chunck of fudge doing it.
bbl
Posted by PamB on January 1, 2006 at 10:47 AM
We need to get some bumper stickers saying:
NO WAY
NO HOW
NO MCCAIN
O.K. the trolls have disrupted the blog long enough, back to defeating McNuts. The Trolls famous war plane crasher's hero. He's about as good a airplane pilot, as Dick (and he is Cheney) a good shooter. These two together could'nt find a place to shit in a 100 acre field.
Pam - you are just too kind to these trolls!
Posted by marymac_memphis on August 27, 2008 at 04:34 PM
I just can't help it, Mary, they are so pathetic.
I keep asking the AZ fool, what is he doing with any female that would have anything to do with him, but he never answers. He just had to leave , the all-you-can eat buffet bar is giving Senior Citizen discounts tonight!! LOL!
I just found this on FDL:
Quote from Gov. Ann Richards: “A woman voting for John McCain would be like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.”
TRUE!
Sorry Mary - I couldn't get back to you as I got busy here at work. But I think someone has given you the info for those bumper stickers. Another place to get good progressive bumper stickers is www.progressivebumperstickers.com I got one that my husband won't let me put on my car - it has to do with bush (and George Bush and trusting...and well anyhoooo)
Sandy - I am getting busy but so are many others in northern Indiana. Like I said,I have neve seen this type of activity at this level ever in northern Indiana. Even in the county where I live, they are forming a Youth Dem Group, something that has never happened before ever!
I do think when the dust settles and we really start to pound McCain - there's going to be so much crap to come out most people will finally see that this guy is too old, too bad of a temper and not qualified to be President. Voting McCain in will be like having George Bush for another 4 years. We simply can not let that happen.
It's quitn' time.
Keep On Rockn'
Hillary's line about, the twin cities, of McNuts, and Bush, that you can't tell any difference between them these days, was and is right on target.
Before anyone takes the troll for his "word", RJ is posting on the Partybuilder blog....as we speak.
"My pants are cutting into my waist, and I think that is a chunck of fudge doing it."
Maybe you should try to lose some weight than fata$$.
Barack Obama's Record
A Record on Rural Issues: In 2006, Obama supported legislation that would have reversed $2 billion in cuts for U.S. Department of Agriculture programs including conservation, rural development, nutrition, and forestry programs that are vitally important to our rural communities. In addition, he supported legislation providing full funding for agricultural programs that were authorized by Congress in the 2002 Farm Bill. Obama has supported funding for Illinois communities through the Rural Community Empowerment Program, which includes the establishment of rural Empowerment Zones and Enterprise Communities, as well as other federal programs that maintain and build upon the assets of rural communities. Obama has worked on numerous efforts in the U.S. Senate to increase access to and use of renewable fuels, including corn-based and cellulosic ethanol. He cosponsored legislation to investigate the root causes of health disparities including for rural areas and to start addressing them. He cosponsored the Emergency Farm Relief Act of 2006 to make grants to state agriculture departments for direct economic loss payments to eligible small businesses. He cosponsored legislation that became law to combat the scourge of methamphetamines. Obama also introduced legislation to remedy years of discrimination against black farmers by the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
Posted by BlueinIdaho on August 27, 2008 at 04:59 PM
DUH.......and on here under two or three names.
WASHINGTON, Aug 18, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ -- As John McCain addressed the Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW) in Orlando, FL, this morning, he was practicing more of the same old politics. McCain claims to be an advocate for America's veterans despite his record on veterans' issues. Like Bush, McCain will continue sending American soldiers - along with billions of dollars - to Iraq and Afghanistan, but he'll block programs for health care and education for veterans here at home.
In terms of getting things done, what’s John McCain ever accomplished? Beyond a minor, years-old procedural reform to the campaign finance system — nothing. And he’s had much more time in Washington in which to get something done. But in McCain’s past 25 years in congress he’s managed to author not a single piece of legislation that’s been signed into law that helps any real people with any real problems. He’s spent a lot of time posturing on the Sunday shows, and affiliated himself with a few pieces of modestly progressive legislation that didn’t get passed, and then disavowed all those bills.
Everything I’ve seen from McCain suggests this is absolutely right, but it got me to wondering: what would McCain say his greatest legislative accomplishments were?
I took a look at the “About” page on McCain’s website, looking for accomplishments. It touts his “record of leadership,” but doesn’t include a single reference to an accomplishment from McCain’s quarter-century as a member of Congress.
Well, “About” pages tend to be kind of vague, so perhaps I was looking in the wrong place. There’s also a timeline of the important milestones in McCain’s life on his website. (It skips over some of the personal details, such as his adultery and divorce.) It’s a lengthy review of McCain’s awards and key moments, but it lists just one piece of legislation: “May 20, 2002 - Final passage of John McCain’s trademark McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform legislation, which reformed the influence of money in political campaigns.”
This, in and of itself, is kind of interesting. After more than 25 years in Washington, McCain mentions just one landmark bill — which he now no longer wants to talk about, because the Republican base hates the legislation. Indeed, it’s also worth considering the fact that McCain no longer stands by his only landmark legislation, and has flip-flopped on some of the provisions of his own bill.
It’s a particular oddity, given the length of his career. It’d be fascinating if a campaign reporter were to simply ask McCain, “Senator, after 25 years on the Hill, what would you say are your top five biggest legislative accomplishments.” My hunch is, he would struggle to come up with a list.
Now, I know what some of you are thinking: “OK, wise guy, what about the legislative accomplishments from Obama and Clinton?” Fair enough. I went by their “About” pages to see if they’re any better than McCain. As it turns out, unlike the Arizona senator, they actually list legislative accomplishments. Go figure.
Could Alaska turn blue in November?
Democrats could be part of a serious political shift
Want to know how politics has changed in Alaska lately? Alaska had two long-time Republicans with their political lives on the line last night -- in a primary.
Sen. Ted Stevens, currently under indictment for concealing more than $250,000 in gifts from an oil services company, survived a challenge from 6 would-be Republican suitors. Stevens' luck may run out in November as he goes up against Anchorage Mayor Mark Begich, son of the late U.S. Rep. Nick Begich.
Howdy, yall!
Hillary's nominating speech just started. Obama's is coming up next and then ...
the ROLL CALL!
"Madam Chairwoman, American Samoa, where the sun first shines on the US flag proudly declares its votes for....."
Quote from Gov. Ann Richards: “A woman voting for John McCain would be like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.”
Posted by marymac_memphis on August 27, 2008 at 04:53
when I watch the Republican analyst on TV, and they are female, I just shake my head, but when they are BLACK FEMALES, I just absolutely am mind boggled! Are these women so stupid as to not know that Republicans would take away every single right that their ancestors fought so hard for? that they think they should be kept pregnant and in the kitchen.
absolutely beyond belief!
From The Sunday Times
August 24, 2008
Interviews of the week
.....The scars on his face and ears are from defending himself. “I’m good with my fists,” George confirms. Life in Huruma, a shanty town on the outskirts of Nairobi, can be tough. In the violence that engulfed Kenya during the January elections George witnessed rioting, while six local people were hacked to death. He likes to keep his identity a secret. If anyone says anything about his surname: “I say we are not related. I am ashamed.”
So far his life has been little to boast about. After becoming estranged from his mother he lived rough on the streets for 10 years. But now, partly as a result of his brother’s campaign, he is trying to go straight, drinking less beer and buying cheap cigarettes only one at a time. For several months he has been studying at the local technical school to be a mechanic.
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Poor George, and his brother Obama lives so well off.
Kathy: Thanks - I already ordered the bumper stickers at moveon.org. I was planning on making a contribution to move on anyway, so that just worked out perfectly! Thanks for mentioning it.
Pam: I can not believe that any female in her right mind would even consider voting for a man who called his first wife the 'c' word. Gov. Richards quote is right on the money. I have asked this question for years: Who are all these ugly, old, boring, white men who think that they need to control everything and everyone including and especially women. Who are they to even suggest that they know more about what is right for women than women themselves do! Women are for the most part - excluding Man Coulter and her clones - intelligent human beings who can easily think for themselves. We know what is right for us and it IS NOT John McCain!
And ABC "News" "reported" last week that of the top 23 "richest" countries in the world the United States is DEAD LAST in infant mortality.
Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 27, 2008 at 12:31 AM
The pseudo-religious evangelical freak janet parschall was complaining today about us asking for universal health care. She doesn't give a damn about children. Universal health care might get us off the bottom of the infant mortality scale but she doesn't give a shit about children once they are born which is obvious being that we are at the bottom of the pile right now.
These people are assholes. She is always bitching about abortion and saying that it is murder.
Well I have news for the f'ing bitch, not having universal health care is probably the main reason we have so many infant deaths.
This woman needs to grow up.
Posted by Johne on August 27, 2008 at 06:14 PM
Hi Johne, I totally agree. What's more, if these idiots are so 'dead-set' (forgive the poor pun) against abortion rights, why are they also so opposed to contraceptives?
Thom Hartman expressed the same feelings today that I have had over our invasion of Russia.
Three weeks ago, KKKarl spent several days with Georgia's presidunce suckassvilli in Yalta.
The week of georgia's attack on South Ossetia and the killing (genocide) of 2,000 Russians cheney's head of security was in Georgia with suckassvilli.
During the attack by suckassvilli mcasshole spoke out against Russia.
cheney is meeting with suckassvilli this week probably planning another attack on Russia.
cindy mcasshole is in georgia supposedly working on "humanitarian" causes. Yeh, right.
Something is rotten in Denmark. This smells to high heaven like a political maneuver set up by rove and cheney to get votes.
This very similar to the bullshit that raygun pulled during the Iran hostage situation. This was so patently political that I can't believe it. I can't believe that noone has even attempted to investigate this Iran-Contra scandal. king bush the first was probably involved in this up to his uppity, bony ass.
I demand that our government investigate the Iran-Contra scandal and this Georgia scandal.
This rovian bullshit must stop and these people brought to justice.
Fox News hates America:
So, leave it to me to find the really nice seats they’ve set aside for bloggers on the last day we’re going to be inside here. Anyhow, I’m on the mid-level, which is the same level NBC, Fox, CNN and AP have their pavilions. Oh, and Al Jazeera. Which is right above where they’ve put us bloggers. Which says… something. I dunno what.
I should note for the record that at the pledge of allegiance, Bill Hemmer and Megyn Kelly of Fox News didn’t stand.
They probably just both simultaneously dropped their mandatory flag pins and were searching the floor to pick them up...
Faux news is a commie, socialist, fascist organization and they don't support the troops.
And now it comes...
INCOMING!!!
(What ever happened to "Miss Congeniality"? She doesn't even spew her racist bile on PB any more.)
The old fart that owns faux news will probably have a coronary and bite the dust.
His son I understand is a liberal. Wouldn't it be fun to be a fly on the wall when hannity, oliarly, coldsore and all the rest are fired and escorted out of the building by security.
See, I told you so. bush screws the pooch, Russia reacts and we jump on them and bitch about their activities.
Why is bush such an asshole? cheney is doing everything he can to bring us to the brink of war before the election with the expectation that World War III will start before the election. pnac would be so proud.
Serbia said Russia recognized two republics because of Kosovo’s precedent
Dan_A_Cactus** go back to the desert and burry your head like bush
I'll bet Putin would just love to wring bush and cheney's scrawny necks or kick their bony asses.
NO Mayor Nagin was just telling CNN that the thousands of travel trailers that asshole bush sent them during bush's folly of 2006 are only rated for a 35 mile an hour wind and we all know hurricane winds start well over 35 miles per hour. What is wrong with this picture.
WTF. Is this another colossal bush failure?
OMG!!! My step-son's best friend just stopped by my office. He is a Navy Seal and his entire unit - there are over 200 in his unit, including support personnel - are all voting for Sen. Obama! He said that he knows not one single person in the military - not one person with whom he has come in contact - that supports McSame! No matter how brain-washed they might have been in the past, they are finally coming around!
USA • USA • USA!!!!!!
and Faux Noise hates America, that's why they don't report facts!
Posted by marymac_memphis on August 27, 2008 at 07:17 PM
What absolute crap. Either he is shitting you or you are shitting us!
Clinton will figure out some way to dump on Hussein Obama tonite. And then he will say "no, no that is not what I meant"
It will be great fun!
I just bought a new Funk and Wagnals encyclopedia. You will never guess what changes have been made.
The word "neocon" and "republican" are listed as obscenities.
If you look up moron and redneck, you will find pictures of bush and cheney respectively.
If you look up fascist war criminal, you will find pictures of bush, cheney, rice, rove and rumsfeld.
And who if not Stevie is an expert on crap?
Martha Raddatz, ABC News.
Troops Deployed Abroad Give 6:1 to Obama
etc.
In my new Funk and Wagnals Encyclopedia I just found a picture of our trolls. Have you ever seen the pictures of the inside of your asshole taken by your doctor during a colonoscopy? This describes the picture of the trolls with one thing missing. Think of huge cancerous polyps.
CNN is full of assholes too. They just show mcasshole's commercial saying that she was for hillary but now she is for mcasshole.
How dare these fuckers put this on during the Democratic National Convention coverage.
Good evening, good {{Dems}}. I thought you might enjoy this video:
American Prayer - Dave Stewart
(Barack Obama Music Video)
LYRICS
This is my American Prayer
This is my American Prayer
This is the time to finish what you started
And this is no time to dream
This is the room
We can turn off the dark tonight
Maybe then we might see
American Prayer, American Prayer
And this is the ground
That keeps our feet from getting wet
And this is the sky over our head
And what you see depends on where you stand
And how you jump will tell you where you're gonna land
American Prayer, American Prayer
My oh my
Couldn't get much higher
Lets not kick out the darkness
Make the light brighter
And these are the hands
What are we gonna build with them?
This is the church you can't see
Give me your tired, your poor and huddled masses
You know they're yearning to breathe free
This is my American Prayer
American Prayer, American Prayer
When you get to the top of the mountain
Will you tell me what you see
If you get to the top of the mountain
Remember me
LIST OF GUESTS IN ORDER OF APPEARANCE:
Dave Stewart
Forest Whitaker
Amy Keys
Macy Gray
Jason Alexander
Colbie Caillat
Whoopi Goldberg
Joss Stone
Buju Banton
Ann Marie Calhoun
Barry Manilow
Linda Perry
Cyndi Lauper
Sergio Mendes
Herbie Hancock
Mike Bradford
Margaret Cho
Cindy Gomez
Speech
Joan Baez
Daedelus
Pamela Anderson
Peter & Gordon
Sierra Swan
Nadirah X
Perez Hilton
These CNN talkin heads have been babbling away for the last hour with the convention speakers talking in the background. They finally put on a speaker and he is African American. CNN seems to be showing as many African Americans as they can seemingly playing the race card. Has anyone else noticed this.
Good Gawd Almighty! I don't have the patience for this nonsense.
PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE!
FIX THIS BLOG!!!!
Good night, good {{Dems}}. "Goodnight, and good luck."
Good evening, all.
Now that the roll call is done, we can sit back and anticipate what Joe and Bill will have to say tonight about the keystones of our....
Agenda for a Strong New Middle Class.
That's what's going to drive Obama into the White House and give us a majority in both Houses of Congress. We have to make sure that voters know that if they want The Middle Class Agenda, they have to give us all the tools to get it done.
We have an smart, composed, and dedicated leader who will not rest till he makes us believe again in the American Dream...
and a strong, energetic, and determined woman in the Senate who will make sure that voters get The Middle Class Agenda passed and sent to the White House to be signed...no longer vetoed by the Republicans.
McCain represents the mistakes of the past. Americans will not allow him to destroy our future, too. The Middle Class must be perserved and given new life.
It will be done. Nobody can stop what started 18 months ago.
Sally: I have a flash for you - the seals are an elite organization and they don't even bother talking to you if you don't have a 130+ IQ. Obviously they are all smarter than you. They want to go to Afghanistan, where they feel that they could serve best, but his unit deploys for Iraq next week. Is it any wonder that they all hate McSame?
Well DoPeyDoodle, ABC is not a reliable news source and it matters not who is collecting the most money from service people. If Hussein is collecting more it is because he is collecting it from people who are fired up about his candidacy. McCain doesn't fire anyone up but when it comes time to vote, the military will vote 60% - 40% Republican just like always.
Sandy,
I am really looking forward to Bill's speech. When Barack was asked if he had any input, Barack said that Bill can say anything he wants.
I hope he kicks butt and takes names. mccain is really pushing the limits of decency by putting his commercial showing a young woman saying that she was going to vote for mccain because Hillary didn't get the nomination. This commercial
is probably a total lie but the moron neocon voters eat this stuff up. To put this on right in the middle of the Democratic Convention is the height of indecency. CNN did it.
Posted by marymac_memphis on August 27, 2008 at 07:17 PM
I swear it's become so obvious that all those old coots over in the Republican Party are going senile. McCain Disease is running rambid.
Pat Buchanan just made a absolutely incoherent observation about Martin Luther King's speach that ended with something sticky about Reagan. It almost borders on senior abuse to let these guys speak in public any longer.
You bet the younger generation is ready for a change. The last eight years was bad enough. Can you just imagine what the next four would be like with McCain wandering around aimlessly?
OMG!!! My step-son's best friend just stopped by my office. He is a Navy Seal and his entire unit
marymac, that's great! I posted an article the other day, said that the Military personel are contributing 6 to 1 to obama!
They understand now, they stood back and watched their buddies blown to bits for lies!!!!
hey gazoo, how are things on the assembly line at Toro? Can you get me a good deal on a new mower? I am hoping for a tour of the place next week, if my travel plans for Twin Cities work out.
Speaking of Twin Cities, that was hysterical when Hillary Said how coincidential Bush and McSame will be in Twin cities next week----because they are looking more and more alike!!!
LOL!
TheGreatGazoo your one who lost in your own dream world fo gack to it and leave us alone to enjoy party in peace
The last eight years was bad enough. Can you just imagine what the next four would be like with McCain wandering around aimlessly?
Posted by SandyH on August 27, 2008 at 08:01 PM
No, I can't. I really can't! Just the concept reduces me to tears. I have known the Navy Seal since he and my step-son served on Junior High Student Council together. I am devestated that he is being deployed to Iraq.
Did you all watch a while ago, when an Iraqi War Veteran, a Registered Republican, Went onstage to Nominate Barack Obama as the Presidential Candidate? I thought that was just great! should offset the pretend bimbo who was supposedly for Hillary, now doing ads for McCain. Wonder how much cash exchanged hands in that one?
Watch the video if you missed Hillary making it official !
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/27/obama-nominated-by-acclam_n_121934.html
Obama's going to make it better?
With old worn out Jimmy Carter policy's from 1979?
Well I guess that's change for kiddies that were not born yet and have never seen double digit inflation, unemployment and prime rates.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaahahahahahahaha
TheGreatGazoo or sally make you mind who you want to be tonight steve and your showing signs of mentel illness
This one if for Kathy in IN.
Hey Kathy, read this one. Obama Campaign not taking the bullshit that Kerry did 4 years ago!
They are coming out with Rapid Response on the Lies and Smears that the McCain balkies are running!
Obama's Response Ad Reflects Lessons of 2004
oh, boohoohoo. The Republicans say they feel intimidated and harassed!!!!! Squealing like little girls !
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/26/AR2008082603920.html
This morning,
E-mail from Pammy
To Sandy and the other commie asshats, more gibberish, post more gibberish, we need lots of gibberish.
We cannot elect an empty suit without lots of nonsense and gibberish!
We cannot elect an empty suit without lots of nonsense and gibberish!
like macain
Posted by TheGreatWazoo on August 27, 2008 at 08:05 PM
BULLSHIT!
NO THEY ARE NOT "SUPPOSED TO SUPPORT THE TROOPS"!!!
That is a Federal crime. The "news" is supposed to be bias free, and NOT be a propaganda tool for the government. Their ONLY job is to report the FACTS, not suck Pug dick every minute of the day.
LOOK IT UP!
The airwaves are OWNED by THE PUBLIC! Not a political party. And certainly not by a multinational company with a license to basically print money.
dont act dumb you come in here as sally and as the grat gazzo make up your mind or are you being dumb ass
dusty, old gazoo is no other than the simple minded, foolish 55 year old MN Thomass.
Be nice to him, he can get you a discount at Toro where he works, if you are in the market for any yard equipment! :)
wonder how his cousin Michelle Law is? Seems she works there too! But Toro does not like it when she wanders into DNC during their work hours!!! bwhahahahahahahahaha.
Night Dems. time to go tune into the Convention. Blog ya tomorrow....
Another thing janet parschal said today blew my mind.
She was complaining that the congress was not open enough and did everything in secret and we just can't run a government like this.
She must have her head up her butt.
The bush/cheney administration is the most secretive in history. Talk about being out of touch with the American people.
What world does she inhabit?
We cannot elect an empty suit without lots of nonsense and gibberish!
like macain ....said! Obama is full of nonsense and gibberih!
Posted by dusty2006
Good job dusty.
Wonder how much cash exchanged hands in that one?
Pam: I suspect it was something akin to 30 pieces of silver.
Why hasn't Toro moved to China? They apparently have a lot of lame asses working their.
We cannot elect macain without lots of nonsense and gibberih!
Pam,
The neocons are girlie men.
Posted by Johne
Now JohnE, I can be pretty sure your two dads were not neo-cons.
if torro goes to china poor tomass will have to get real job
We cannot elect macain without lots of nonsense and gibberih!
Posted by dusty2006
So, pammy is working for McCain?
She is a Troll!
Well if thats the case dummy, why do you think the tax payer should support every little bastard in this country?
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 27, 2008 at 04:06 PM
The answer is quite simple. Here you go...everyone...sing along
http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/j/e/jesloves.htm
Jesus calls the children dear,
“Come to me and never fear,
For I love the little children of the world;
I will take you by the hand,
Lead you to the better land,
For I love the little children of the world.”
Refrain
Jesus loves the little children,
All the children of the world.
Red and yellow, black and white,
All are precious in His sight,
Jesus loves the little children of the world.
[Alternate refrain:
Jesus died for all the children,
All the children of the world.
Red and yellow, black and white,
All are precious in His sight,
Jesus died for all the children of the world.]
Jesus is the Shepherd true,
And He’ll always stand by you,
For He loves the little children of the world;
He’s a Savior great and strong,
And He’ll shield you from the wrong,
For He loves the little children of the world.
Refrain
I am coming, Lord, to Thee,
And Your soldier I will be,
For You love the little children of the world;
And Your cross I’ll always bear,
And for You I’ll do and dare,
For You love the little children of the world.
Refrain
Do you buttwipe trolls get it yet?
Dan_A_Cactus* no your one of the troll you idiot pam democrat and want i ment is macain full giberish
Esmeralda all the republican care about is the rich not poor childeren
Posted by dusty2006 on August 27, 2008 at 08:39 PM did you have two mommy?
If you need a mommy, dusty - ask someone who cares
Posted by dusty2006 on August 27, 2008 at 08:48 PM
Ooops - maybe I should read back further before I post.
not what i said but every body in here are out for them self i ask dan if he did have to mommy not out in general
Do you buttwipe trolls get it yet?
Posted by Esmeralda on August 27, 2008 at 08:44 PM
Wow, trolls...you sure stepped in it this time. You actually pissed off the best among us.
Esme, did I ever tell ya how much I love ya? :)
bush has an empty head.
cheney has an empty soul.
mcgeezer is an empty suit.
rice is a whore.
Do you buttwipe trolls get it yet?
Posted by Esmeralda
Yes, I understand you have a grandkid or two looking for a daddy and no I don't think I should have to support them with my taxes.
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 27, 2008 at 09:03 PM Yes, I understand you have a grandkid or two looking for a daddy and no I don't think I should have to support them with my taxes.
What a great campaign advert for Senator McCain!! - make it so.
Posted by GregL on August 27, 2008 at 08:58 PM Esme, did I ever tell ya how much I love ya? :)
She's a carpenter friend, GregL.
gregl, you can keep telling me...love is what makes the world go round.
She's "got" a carpenter friend, GregL. :)
For the record - I don't claim to have graduated from Mensa High
"Outside The Wall"
All alone, or in twos
The ones who really love you
Walk up and down outside the wall
Some hand in hand
Some gathering together in bands
The bleeding hearts and the artists
Make their stand
And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall after all it's not easy
banging your heart against some mad buggers
Wall
She's "got" a carpenter friend, GregL. :)
For the record - I don't claim to have graduated from Mensa High
Posted by dorsano on August 27, 2008 at 09:11 PM
Pretty well aware of it, dors...both statements, lol!
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 27, 2008 at 09:03 PM
Another fine demonstration of ignorance.
Posted by GregL on August 27, 2008 at 09:12 PM it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers Wall
One of the easier walls to tear down is/was down - the worst buggers are among us.
Posted by Esmeralda on August 27, 2008 at 08:44 PM
Now that's what I call a POST!
Thanks Esme!
Posted by dorsano on August 27, 2008 at 09:18 PM
hehe...I just happened to be ripping "The Wall" from my CD collection to my iTunes, and thought the words felt right.
Another fine demonstration of ignorance.
Posted by Chicago
After you lost to Dusty the other night, I would think you would shy away from using words like that.
BTW, is this the real Chicago tonight, or just an idiot want to be? The one playing Chicago the other night was slow and stupid like, RJ, benji, Robert, you get the picture.
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 27, 2008 at 09:03 PM Yes, I understand you have a grandkid or two looking for a daddy and no I don't think I should have to support them with my taxes.
Help me get this straight, Dan - I'm a liberal.
Seems you support an awfully rich guy
* who can't remember how many houses he owns,
* who only just recently decided that it was a good thing that his dividend income and your dividend income should be taxed at exactly the same flat rate with no adjustment for how much he inherited.
* and that what you earn from dividend income is not enough to feed the cat and what he earns in dividend income is enough to fund a public school for a few months
* and he signed on to this because he needed your vote to get nominated to run for president
* and he's telling the rest of the country that he's really not like that.
Which group of people are going to be disappointed in he performance you think?
A little known secret concerning life in the jungles of time and space, is that however far you reach, you will go farther. However great your dream, it will be grander. And however much you love, you will be loved much more.
We call it the law of increasing returns.
dan get off the huffing bag and flush the rest of sally's mother's remains before the cops hit your door.
Posted by GregL on August 27, 2008 at 09:16 PM Pretty well aware of it, dors...both statements,
blah, blah, blah - you Texans are all the same :)
Bill Clinton hit is out of the park. I knew there was a reason the Clintons were so popular. They've proved their statesmanship tonight, both Hillary and Bill. I'm so glad they are Democrats.
I am heartened, too, by seeing the tone shifting ever so subtly toward the kind of hard-hitting criticism of the NeoCons, and of McSame who has taken up their torch, the people need to hear. We can't afford four more years of their disasters.
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 27, 2008 at 09:25 PM
Hey look everyone! Proof that the dumb are getting dumber. Meet cactus Dan, the republican dupe. Watch as he tries to pretend he's not stupid.
see, even trolls have a purpose...to be buttholes.
Romans 12:4-5
Just as each of us has a one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, so in Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others.
Enjoy the evening, everyone.
Posted by tylinCA on August 27, 2008 at 09:46 PM We can't afford four more years of their disasters.
Hi, tylinCA :)
I think Johnson and Johnson should do a study as to why people like Dan_A_Cactus support such disasters before China starts making our shampoo.
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 27, 2008 at 09:34 PM zzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
Ah - OK - that explains your vote pretty well - good work.
We should all remember, that after Hillary's speech, the idiot republicans came back with the stupid point that,
"she did not say he was ready to be commander-in-chief".
And the news media ran with it.
Okay. So when one of the Republicans speaks up for McLame, if they don't tell us he's NOT too senile to be president, then we should call them on THAT too.
Posted by Esmeralda on August 27, 2008 at 09:54 PM Enjoy the evening, everyone.
Night, Esme
Posted by gregg on August 27, 2008 at 09:56 PM bill and hillary turn out to be a class act after all.
The media doubted - because they needed something to talk about.
I never doubted and I hope I've made that plain to everyone I've talked - except you - because I knew I didn't need to.
We call it the law of increasing returns.
Posted by Esmeralda on August 27, 2008 at 09:42 PM
In my particular belief system, we call it the threefold law :)
All gods are the God, all Goddesses are the Goddess
They just had mike murphy and asshole repuke strategist on and he was spreading bullshit about the party split just like mcasshole is spreading. Why do they let these assholes into the Democratic convention?
"Return To Innocence"
That's not the beginning of the end
That's the return to yourself
The return to innocence
Love - Devotion
Feeling - Emotion
Love - Devotion
Feeling - Emotion
Don't be afraid to be weak
Don't be too proud to be strong
Just look into your heart my friend
That will be the return to yourself
The return to innocence
If you want, then start to laugh
If you must, then start to cry
Be yourself don't hide
Just believe in destiny
Don't care what people say
Just follow your own way
Don't give up and use the chance
To return to innocence
That's not the beginning of the end
That's the return to yourself
The return to innocence
Don't care what people say
Follow just your own way Follow just your own way
Don't give up, don't give up
To return, to return to innocence.
If you want then laugh
If you must then cry
Be yourself don't hide
Just believe in destiny.
Sorry, having a good time listening to the convention and good music at the same time, and I never can resist sharing :)
Something strange is going on. Someone earlier asked for video of John McLame losing his temper. I have been trying to find one. I have found a lot on youtube. But on each and every one, when I try to watch it, I get,
"this video no longer available"
What has happened to all these videos?
These stupid greedy republican, commie lover, asshats think by sucking every american dry, somehow the stockmarket will grow. Without the american market there is nobody to sell commie corporate crap to. God these crooks are dumb.
Posted by GregL on August 27, 2008 at 10:11 PM orry, having a good time listening to the convention and good music at the same time, and I never can resist sharing
A popular international hit, GregL? You must have been jet skiing with Senator McCain and Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili and hob nobbing with neo-conservative, take-over-the-world-with-our-millarty-might Randy Scheunemann.
How do Germany and Great Britain and the rest of the EU feel about this all this - given their commitment in Afghanisation?
Chicago, Rovie put his evil spell on the youtube and restricted freedom. I'm sure there are copies and this should be reported to CNN, MSNBC, thats what got the edwards story going was the fact those videos that woman made were missing.
It is too bad Cactus Dan had to leave. He is such a SHINING example of a republican dupe. I think it is good that he comes here and posts. It provides a real-world example of who the idiots are that will be voting for Old man John McLame.
Dunno, Chicago...I've got one I'm downloading now,
John McCain Losing His Cool
See if you can see that one.
Bo Biden giving a really good introduction for his father. Joe Biden is a great man.
GregL
I tried. Again I got,
"Sorry, video no longer available."
It's right. Obama is making it right by having Joe Biden as VP. Biden is a great leader in his own right. And he has run for president but has never been given a fair shake by the media. He will make a GREAT VP.
Do you buttwipe trolls get it yet?
Posted by Esmeralda
Yes, I understand you have a grandkid or two looking for a daddy and no I don't think I should have to support them with my taxes.
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 27, 2008 at 09:03 PM
She has even been praying for mor bastards.
Posted by Sally-* on August 27, 2008 at 10:42 PM She has even been praying for mor bastards.
GregG's not here right now, Sally - he's listening to our next Vice President - so I'll speak for him
go fuck yourself
Joe Biden is cutting McNuts from ear to ear, yeah!!!!!!!!!!
everyone deserves some pleasure, Sally - apparently that's the only way you can get yours
unless you can answer my question to Mr or Ms Cactus posted here Posted by dorsano on August 27, 2008 at 09:41 PM
Hillary Clinton rocked the house last night - yes she did
Chicago,
Bo Biden has a future in national politics. He is a good speaker too.
It's really refreshing to have a group of candidates on our side who can string more than two words together.
Biden, because he is such a great human being, and everyone in the media and congress knows it, can get away with not being politically correct and it is going to be a breath of fresh air.
Obama is truely a genius. From the way he used the rules to win the primary, from the decision he made to not pick hillary, which would have been an easy win for us, from giving Hillary and Bill two nights at the convention and allowing her name on the roll call. Just because he doesn't initiate ads that lie and attack McCain doesn't mean he doesn't have the biggest kahunas and the biggest brains. Obama/Biden 08
Dunno, Chicago...still works for me. Sorry you're having troubles. I'm going to watch Rachel Maddow now...bbl
dors, thanks for covering for me. sally is getting a real sweat going as it realizes that on 11/4 it is going to have to eat dome really big pieces of crow pie....and then watch the country turn into what it hates the most, a place where justice and the good of the many prevail...oh and sally...go fuck yourself.
I would like to say though, it's hard for me to get over hillary saying McCain and herself were experienced enough to be POTUS. You never put a republican candidate above a potential democratic nominee, not in these times, not ever. But I think all along she knew she could mend bridges burned. She must have experience doing that her whole life. I'll say it again, she is the single most polished politician in America and probably the world. She also is the most powerful women in America.
Posted by gregg on August 27, 2008 at 11:08 PM dors, thanks for covering for me.
NY took the hit for America on 9/11 - I owe you a whole lot more yet.
OMG,
I cannot believe the idiots they have on CNN. They are panning Biden's speech.
"It was a good speech but not a memorable speech"
What a bunch of tripe. Joe, as a member of the Senate for many years, blew out of the water the stupid position of John the-old-geezerMcCain that Obama does not have the judgement. McCain is in big trouble.
gee it looks like all that a praying and a chest thumpin the dobson drones did for biblical, torrential rain in denver tomorrow night in denver to mess with the obama speech at the broncos stadium may not have been heard by our lord....or he heard it and wanted to make it clear that she is a democrat!
Denver Post:
Thursday...Sunny. Highs in the lower 80s.
So who is McLame going to pick as HIS running mate? Romney? Gouliani? Cheney? Jeb Bush?
I don't know. But I hope McLAme gets a really big hug from George Bush and they share a kiss at the GOP (Grand OLD Party) convention.
Chicago,
I gave CNN hell on their website. They had the audacity to show one of mcgeezers hate political ads right after Bill spoke. They showed the ad that shows some woman saying that "I was for Hillary and now I am for mccain".
What a bunch of losers.
Then they had a mike murphy who is a repuke pundit saying that no matter what Bill said at the convention, that they are going to vote for mccain. This prick was roundly booed. Then he said it three more times. laughing every time he said it. They should have cut off his microphone.
I am now watching letterman who is really starting to piss me off. Every night he asks who is voting for Obama and who is voting for mcasshole. Tonight the audience actually clapped louder for mcasshole. Where does he get his audiences. They must be a bunch of morons.
Posted by Sally-* on August 27, 2008 at 10:42 PM She has even been praying for mor bastards.
No answer yet, Sally - to my question - Jane Fonda got your tongue?
Explain to me why I want the people you nominate to lead our country - lead our country.
I wonder how many times McNuts, is going to say MY FRIENDS next week. Maybe we should have a My Friends lottery.
with a trolls like sally i find it useful to never take them seriously and to always attack them mercilessly, which is reinforced by the troll behavior of attacking esmeralda's family when she is one of the most civil people to blog here...the dozens is a game they don't like so i play it all the time....and when ever i see sally or dan's mom selling their sagging butts out on the street i always offer to light their crack pipes for them....just cause i see no reason that the sins of the trolls be visited on their parents...
so now that the clinton's didn't blow themselves up at the convention and if fact did outstanding jobs of supporting obama what will the media do for a story....maybe they could focus on cindy's manipulation of a drug treatment program to score dope for herself...or take another look at mcsame's keating five involvement or if mittens is the vp choice examine the idea that his sons didn't join up for the military but in his view did equal national service by running his campaign....or what about that dog on top of the station wagon....the dog that didn't bark??
NY Times:
August 27, 2008, 10:19 pm
Clinton Soap Opera, R.I.P.
By The Editorial Board
The Board At the Convention
One of the hardest-to-kill story lines of this convention has been about the Clintons: that they do not accept Barack Obama’s victory and that they are scheming to make trouble for his candidacy.
We have no doubt that defeat did not come easily to either of the Clintons — or that they kept fighting to the end. But we also saw this week that Hillary and Bill did not play the obstructionist role that critics were assigning to them.
Hillary Clinton did her part to bury the story Tuesday night with her stemwinder of a speech in support of Mr. Obama. Wednesday, Bill Clinton drove a dagger through it...
nite dors. i'm ready for some rest as well. keep it lit chassie...
gee it looks like all that a praying and a chest thumpin the dobson drones did for biblical, torrential rain in denver tomorrow night in denver to mess with the obama speech at the broncos stadium may not have been heard by our lord..(Our Lord?. you don't have a Lord you are an atheist ass clown)or he heard it and wanted to make it clear that she (She? you just got done calling him "Our Lord") is a democrat!
Denver Post:
Thursday...Sunny. Highs in the lower 80s.
Posted by gregg on August 27, 2008 at 11:21 PM
gee it looks like all that a praying and a chest thumpin the dobson drones did for biblical, torrential rain in denver tomorrow night in denver to mess with the obama speech at the broncos stadium may not have been heard by our lord (Our Lord?, you don't have a Lord, you are an atheist ass clown)...or he heard it and wanted to make it clear that she (She? You just called him "Our Lord" - what? are ya retarded or something? is a democrat!
Posted by gregg on August 27, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Posted by Sally-* on August 28, 2008 at 12:33 AM
Sally - grow some balls and respond to this - Posted by dorsano on August 27, 2008 at 09:41 PM
or hate
you're choice as always
Sally - fairy, Sally Dear - it seems to me that people like you would call you a fairy right now - they'd be wrong - but that's what they would do.
Good night, Sally - no response from you yet - Bring some U.S. Marines here next time - if they are willing to pull away from their duties.
I thought Joe Biden gave a great speech tonight.
In the first part he connected so well with just the voters we wanted him to reach. And he did it in such a very special personal way.
In the weeks and months ahead Joe's unassuming humanity is going to give those Undecided and Independent voters permission to do what they want to do and vote Democratic again.
But who wrote the refrain in the second half? A two-part refrain? Please. It threw off Joe's delivery. But it didn't matter. The audience was already with him.
Everyone knows the evil litany of the Bush Crime Family's deeds by heart. The nation is sick of complaining about them. Americans just want this nightmare to end and the GOP to get out of our lives.
Bill surprised me tonight. He's matured. Who would have thought he would assume the role of elder statesman so well? Not only did he say all the right things to unify the party, he did it with such grace that you know he was being sincere.
Comparing himself to Obama when he was running in 1992 was genius. The old boy still has it and he wasn't shy about letting the young kid know it.
But the most startling moment of this convention came when Barack walked out on that stage to join Joe. He was in command and everyone in that room and at home felt it. He has a presence.
It's a confidence that begs one's attention and a natural ability to fit in any place and with anybody. It's remarkable. And yet it makes him stand apart.
I don't know if it was having to bridge two worlds from a very early age, the security of his grandparents' commitment, or the challenge his mother gave him but pushing him out of the nest so early.
But he has a certain quality that begs one's attention. And now we have him to lead us.
If he could convince such a powerful couple as the Clintons to step aside without making too much of a fuss, he must have a rare gift indeed. They must see potential.
I must confess I didn't at first. But then I thought he was auditioning for a later run. Destiny has a way of rescheduling and redefining what we want and what we get in life.
And we are going to need all the resources Obama can muster to help dig ourselves out of the hole the Republicans have put us into both at home and overseas. The challenge is daunting to say the least.
The days of silly sound bites are past. Woe be to McCain and the Republicans if he tries to shuffle through on a bunch of one liners.
The mood in the country has become dead serious.
gregg,
It would appear that Dobson's prayers went haywire and the people on the Gulf Coast are going to bear the brunt of them.
I'm not the most religious of people, but I can't for the life of me understand why any Christian would pray for the misfortune of others. It's not not what one would expect from say a Christian.
More disturbing is the corporate news media's obvious glee at the prospect of a Category 4 and the GOP convention on a split screen. What is wrong with these people? They want a human tragedy?
I find Tom Brokow's pledge that the Republicans would get the same full media coverage as the Democrats no matter how many levies break or people die more than a little creepy.
Geggy can't ague with me on the issues or science so he resorts to dopey mother inanity. I remember we used to do that in grade school, "your momma wears combat boots" et al.
Now Pammy has picked up on that tactic too. But Pammy's own mother's only claim to fame was her ability to fart on command or at will.
Pammy herself cannot do that (for obvious reasons).
Obama is going to get slammed so bad in this election (he may not win a single state) that communism will be dead in this country for 25 years.
God Bless America!
Sally - grow some balls and respond to this - Posted by dorsano on August 27, 2008 at 09:41 PM
or hate
you're choice as always
Posted by dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 01:03 AM
You actually expect me to go back to yesterdays post and respond to you? I think not. I rarely read your posts because you and DoPeyDoodle and greggy try to outdo each other posting glib flap doodle type nonsense.
This blog is for political intercourse not foolishnesds.
Bill and Hillary did their duty but when they cast their votes, they will vote for John McCain and if you do not believe that you are an idiot. Hillary's knuckle headed followers know that too.
(Sally-* on - Bill and Hillary did their duty but when they cast their votes, they will vote for John McCain and if you do not believe that you are an idiot. Hillary's knuckle headed followers know that too. ) Give It Up Karl
Biden thinks that corn syrup is a greater threat to America than terrorism.
What a guy!
I think you will be seeing a lot more of that clip during the campaign.
Congrats To America! We're Winning! Obama/Biden/AmericanPeople 2008* http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=pRqJUtqDrbM&feature=related
Long time Detroit Democrat now supports McCain
Posted by Kim Priestap
Published: August 27, 2008 - 11:01 PM
She's going against the strong tide of Obama support in Detroit because she experienced herself how Republicans are far more pro-business than the Democrats. From the Freep:
As a woman of color, Pat Browne of Detroit is excited that an African American is a true contender for president.
That doesn't mean she's going to vote for Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill. A longtime Democrat, Browne, 57, of Detroit has had it with the Democratic Party and pledged her support to Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain of Arizona. She even had a house party for the campaign on the opening night of the Democratic National Convention.
"My next-door neighbor is a labor lawyer, and she asked me how in the world I could support McCain," she said.
Browne cited her experience as a small-businesswoman in Michigan as the reason for leaving the party. She owns Browne & Browne Office Products and can't get business with the State of Michigan because, she said, big stores headquartered out of state get all the business.
"I really needed someone to look at me and say this is an outrage. And the Republican Party has responded, and I haven't found that in any other Democratic venues," Browne said.
This doesn't surprise me at all. For all the blathering that Democrats do about looking out for the little guy, when it comes to delivering, they fall short. Good for Pat. It's got to be so hard for her to not only support a Republican for president, but to do so when the Democratic candidate is an African American.
Enron - And this is only one of to many reasons to learn who McCain really is and who he actually represents, CEO's, Super Rich & NOT Average Americans.
John McCain Voted 95% Of The Time On Bush$ Legislation - And this is only one of to many reasons to learn who McCain really is and who he actually represents, CEO's, Super Rich & NOT Average Americans.
John McCain Doesn't Know Were The Borders Of Pakistan & Iran Are - And this is only one of too many reasons to learn who McCain really is and who he actually represents, CEO's, Super Rich & NOT Average Americans.
Obviously I didn't want to associate myself with the mother insults here because I do not think it ads to the discourse here but Pammy did say that her mother could fart on command or at will. I was not impressed.
"My mother was able to fart on command or at will.
Posted by PamB on June 11, 2005 at 03:41 PM
Award-winning Geologist Reconsiders Global Warming Views - Warns of Coming Cooling!
Big Sky Business Journal
If planet earth is warming, it wouldn’t be the first time. If planet earth is cooling, it wouldn’t be the first time, either. In all of Leighton Steward’s studies about the temperature of the earth, graph lines are always sliding up or down. Going back to the beginning of the planet, 4.6 billion years ago, “I’ve never found a flat line,” said Steward. “Earth’s temperature is always increasing or decreasing.” There are actually 18 factors that influence the temperature of the earth, making for very complex and still largely unknown impacts, Steward told attendees of the Montana Petroleum Association, held recently in Billings. Steward has authored a book on his research, called ”Fire, Ice and Paradise.”
Energy from the sun, earth’s orbit, earth’s tilt and wobble, water vapor, methane, ocean current, plate tectonics, elevation of land masses, chemical weathering, meteorites, volcanoes, vegetation, albedo (reflection of solar heat), cosmic rays � all are climate drivers, with varying degrees of impact at different times in earth’s history.
One certainty, however, is that earth has been very much warmer than it is now - “That’s why we find dinosaur bones all the way to the poles,” said Steward. During the Crustacean Period, earth�s average temperature was 80 degrees - compared to the average temperature now of 59 degrees. And, earth has been much colder than it is now. “Ithaca, New York was 1.8 miles under snow and ice just 11,000 years ago,” according to Steward. The other certainty, as far as Steward is concerned is it doesn’t get much better than it is right now. “Paradise is what we are living in right now,” he said. Hence the title of his book - Fire, Ice and Paradise. Earth began extremely hot, and it has plunged into ice ages many times - eight glacial cycles over the last million years alone.
We are living in a time of relative perfection in terms of earth-s temperature, according to Steward - it’s a time of paradise. “It’s been paradise in particular because of oil, gas and coal,” he added. Another aspect of the science that Steward is pretty confident about is that CO2, carbon dioxide, doesn’t have the impact on temperature that Al Gore claims. While there is some correlation between earth’s temperature and CO2 levels, the data coming from many different sources, says over and over again that the CO2 levels are a “lagging indicator”. That means just the opposite of what the former presidential candidate is claiming - CO2 levels are not driving temperature change, but are affected by temperature change.
That information has been “out there” since 1999, said Steward. No scientists have ever stepped forward to attempt to refute it, he continued. Gore has access to that information, said Steward. Why he is proselytizing the message puzzles Steward. “He won’t debate this subject,” said Steward, but maybe he has come to understand it - “maybe that’s why he has cancelled the last six months of his tour.”
Awarding-winning environmentalist and geologist Leighton Steward is a recognized environmentalist and conservationist for his work on preserving wetlands, Steward has a Master of Science Degree in Geology, twice chaired the Audubon Nature Institute and is currently the chairman of the Institute for the study of Earth and Man at SMU. He is a former member of the Advisory Board of the Lamon-Dougherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University and has received numerous environmental awards, including the EPA’s award for environmental excellence and the API’s Gold Medal Award for his company’s leadership in voluntary environmental practices.
John McCain States The Economy Is Vibrant? It Must Seem This Way To A Fellow Who Owns So Many Houses He's Not Sure Where Or How Many There Are. (Have you seen the tired to frightened look on average peoples faces as they pass through the grocery isles?) Far too many people are on the edge of Loosing their homes only comparable to 1929 depression standards - And this is only one of to many reasons to learn who McCain really is and who he actually represents, CEO's, Super Rich & NOT Average Americans.
Arctic Sea ice in the News
You knew it was coming. The alarmists and media have been frustrated in their efforts to report global warming evidence as nature has refused to cooperate. Temperatures have been declining for going on 7 years (accelerated this year) even as CO2 increased 3.5%. After a record low arctic ice extent last year, a cold winter brought Total Northern Hemisphere snow and ice cover to record high levels in January and arctic ice back to near normal. Snow and cold were replacing heat and drought in the news. They had to resort to blaming snowmelt and spring rain flooding and spring tornadoes and the annual western wildfires on global warming.
This summer, the media had to search for stories like a cracks in a Greenland glacier and the Wilkins Ice Sheet (ignoring experts stating that such cracks were not unusual) and a NSDIC press release that predicted this summer arctic ice might approach or exceed the record set last year because so much of the ice that formed was first year ice after the unusual wind patterns last summer dumped more than normal ice into the Atlantic. First year ice would be thinner and more easily melted.
Ironically just last year a NSIDC story correctly summarized the findings of many researchers and peer review papers that natural warming and cooling cycles in the Atlantic and Pacific were the real drivers for the cyclical changes in arctic ice over the centuries (as we have shown most recently here) when a scientist there correctly noted in October 2007:
“One prominent researcher, Igor Polyakov at the University of Fairbanks, Alaska, points out that pulses of unusually warm water have been entering the Arctic Ocean from the Atlantic, which several years later are seen in the ocean north of Siberia. These pulses of water are helping to heat the upper Arctic Ocean, contributing to summer ice melt and helping to reduce winter ice growth. Another scientist, Koji Shimada of the Japan Agency for Marine-Earth Science and Technology, reports evidence of changes in ocean circulation in the Pacific side of the Arctic Ocean. Through a complex interaction with declining sea ice, warm water entering the Arctic Ocean through Bering Strait in summer is being shunted from the Alaskan coast into the Arctic Ocean, where it fosters further ice loss. Many questions still remain to be answered, but these changes in ocean circulation may be important keys for understanding the observed loss of Arctic sea ice.”
This year that scientist was replaced by senior scientist Mark Serreze who predicted the ice might disappear and attributed the loss to global warming. This week he wrote and the media gladly reported the ice had diminished rapidly this month and now moved 2008 past 2005 into 2nd place behind 2007 in the record since it began in 1979.
The AP’s Seth Borenstein gleefully wrote: “More ominous signs Wednesday have scientists saying that a global warming “tipping point” in the Arctic seems to be happening before their eyes: Sea ice in the Arctic Ocean is at its second lowest level in about 30 years. Arctic ice always melts in summer and refreezes in winter. But over the years, more of the ice is lost to the sea with less of it recovered in winter. While ice reflects the sun’s heat, the open ocean absorbs more heat and the melting accelerates warming in other parts of the world. Sea ice also serves as primary habitat for threatened polar bears. “We could very well be in that quick slide downward in terms of passing a tipping point,” said senior scientist Mark Serreze at the data center in Boulder, Colo. “It’s tipping now. We’re seeing it happen now.” Within “five to less than 10 years,” the Arctic could be free of sea ice in the summer, said NASA ice scientist Jay Zwally. “It also means that climate warming is also coming larger and faster than the models are predicting and nobody’s really taken into account that change yet,” he said.”
The drop off this month occurred after a breakdown of the spring and summer pattern which caused shifts in the wind flows that broke up more thin ice than normal even though the air was cold. But the sun is vanishing and the air growing colder and the the melting is slowing. See this plot from the University of Illinois Cryosphere which monitors arctic ice. Note the blip up at the end indicating a slowing of the melt short of 2007.
Chatter over Hutchison as possible VP pick gets louder
By JULIE MASON
Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle
Aug. 27, 2008, 4:13AM
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Some say Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, shown with John McCain in Round Rock in February, could draw disaffected Hillary Clinton supporters.
Mitt Romney, playing Republican pit bull on the periphery of the Democratic National Convention, charged Tuesday that a Barack Obama presidency would "make America a weaker nation"
The United States under an Obama administration would see "less prosperity and less security," said Romney, in what could have been an 11th-hour audition to join Sen. John McCain's ticket.
The former Massachusetts governor led a Republican delegation to the convention city to rain on Obama's parade. Obama, though, wasn't even there; he'd decided earlier to methodically wend his way to Denver, making campaign appearances along the way.
Holding a news conference on the fringe of the convention arena, Romney cited Obama votes on taxes and proposals for government spending. And he took note of the Illinois senator's comment earlier this year in debate that he would negotiate with leaders of rogue nations.
Summing up his pitch, Romney questioned the Democrat's judgment, saying: "Barack Obama is a charming and fine person with a lovely family, but he's not ready to be president"
Romney, at a luncheon with reporters, insisted he was in Denver only to help McCain get elected and not to audition for running mate. "I'm not in any way trying to promote my qualifications, or to dissuade others of my disqualifications, to serve on a McCain ticket," he said.
Then he held a news conference at the GOP's "rapid response" bunker and, intruding on the Democrats' venue, did interviews with cable networks from inside the Pepsi Center where the convention is being held.
Obama's campaign responded that McCain's choice "won't make a lick of difference to struggling American families" because the Republican ticket will offer the same policies as the unpopular President Bush.
McCain's campaign dispatched Romney, who is believed to be a top contender for the vice-presidential spot on the ticket, specifically to assail Obama. Another Republican said to be in serious contention for the No. 2 slot, Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, was scheduled to play attack dog in Denver on Thursday.
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CRAWFORD — Texas Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison's long-shot prospect for vice president is getting a push from conservative and other pundits in the lead-up to next week's Republican National Convention.
The latest flurry of speculation online and on cable television constitutes at least a third or fourth wave of chatter about Hutchison, whose name surfaces occasionally as a possible Republican vice-presidential candidate.
Hutchison, a delegate to next week's convention, will address the gathering in Minneapolis-St. Paul on the subject of energy independence on Sept. 3, her office announced Tuesday.
The speaker slot would seem to douse the veep-talk, but no one would say for sure. A spokesman for Hutchison declined to comment, and the McCain campaign did not return a call about McCain's colleague from Texas.
"She is female, which addresses the novelty of the opposition; she is smart and well-respected; she is knowledgeable on key issues, especially domestic policy," said Bruce Buchanan, a University of Texas at Austin government professor. "I still think it's going to be Mitt Romney."
Announcement expected
McCain, the Arizona senator and presumptive Republican nominee, is expected to announce his choice for vice president at the end of the week.
Hutchison, 66, would be "an excellent choice," syndicated husband-and-wife columnists Dick Morris and Eileen McGann said in a piece that catalyzed renewed speculation on the subject.
"She's been around for decades and is not going to start making mistakes now," they wrote. "Her nomination would be a signal to American women that McCain takes their aspirations seriously, even if Obama does not. Hutchison is not charismatic. But her circumstances would be if she were nominated. The prospect of a woman vice president would electrify women throughout the nation."
Hutchison has served in the Senate since a 1993 special election.
She has said she will not seek re-election in 2012, and is expected to step down before then, for a likely run in the 2010 governor's race.
Houston Republican political consultant Allen Blakemore, who has worked for Hutchison in the past, noted she just scheduled an Oct. 1 campaign event for County Judge Ed Emmett's re-election bid, and said a veep spot seems unlikely.
"She has clearly set her sights on governor and looks at that as the way she wants to complete her long and distinguished career of public service," Blakemore said.
Earlier this week on CNN, Republican strategist Ed Rollins touted Hutchison as "well respected" and a name McCain should consider.
The short odds for McCain's vice-presidential picks include Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, former White House budget official Rob Portman of Ohio and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.
"The conservatives could probably stomach (Hutchison) a lot better than a Tom Ridge or Joe Lieberman," said University of Houston political scientist Richard Murray. "She is a woman and their strategy seems to be to go for disaffected Clinton voters. But I would say this is more like the Chet Edwards boomlet — it raises the profile, there is no downside to being mentioned, but Hutchison at this point looks like a last-minute ploy, not a considered judgment."
Another look at Hutchison
In his online column for the conservative TownHall.com, Michael Medved argued that McCain should reject the Pawlenty-Portman-Romney types as too safe and take another look at Hutchison.
"OK, she's not a dynamo of fiery charisma; in fact, as I've noted before, she's a bland and sometimes boring speaker, and a pleasant if unprepossessing television presence. Nevertheless, she is a she — and that fact in itself would allow McCain's choice to upstage Obama's," Medved wrote.
Among other things, having a woman on the ticket could bring in the disenfranchised Hillary Clinton supporters, Medved argued.
It looks like McCain is gonna win 60% - 40% and the only question that remains is how far is that decisive victory going to influence the Senate and House races. It is bound to have a significant effect.
John McCain Says we should drill. drill, drill & drill some more every, were including your own back yard. With the flatulence he talks on oil, oil, oil we should tap him to a gas pipe line. With all this extra energy we could build thousands of super windmills and say be damned to oil, oil, oil and the effects it has on our environment. - And this is only one of to many reasons to learn who McCain really is and who he actually represents, CEO's, Super Rich & NOT Average Americans.
Posted by johnyfaster on August 28, 2008 at 04:38 AM
I see another flap doodle poster. I can read this blog in a flash because because I sail by all of the flap doodlers.
To Be Or Not To Be -That is the ?
To be a free thinking Democratic Minded American? Or to be a "told what to think" McCain/Bush$ republican! People have Already been fooled twice, why punish yourselves again - And this is only one of to many reasons to learn who McCain really is and who he actually represents, CEO's, Super Rich & NOT Average Americans.
I would rather be a CEO Super Rich & NOT Average American than a government leech as those who manifest themselves here.
Tonight to demonstrate the constructive character of our
Party, I need only briefly picture the advance of fundamental progress
during the past seven and a half years since we took over the Government
amidst the ruin of war.
http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst203/documents/HOOVER.html -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------On poverty he promised: "We in America today are nearer to the final triumph over poverty than ever before in the history of any land." Within months, the Stock Market Crash of 1929 occurred, and the nation's economy spiraled downward into what became known as the Great Depression. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Hoover
Ya, And It's Fatalist Like You That Makes The World The Way It Is. Enjoy Your Ride To Nowhere Ville. Hope Your Great Grand Kids Enjoy What Philosophy's You Leave As Your Epitaph To Them, If They Survive The World You Envision, Instead Of Dreams For Good Schooling, Real HealthCare, Good Honest Jobs & A Better Place Than What We Had While On Planet Earth. Bye, Bye morn
Romney admits his Repug buddies have been like a bunch of drunken sailors spending our money while we have been struggling and not creating an energy policy, couldn't even keep a straight face:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/26431231#26421357
Obama/Biden 2008
No way, no how, no McCain.
Sally-* can cut and paste stories, throw cheap shots. But as far as content, he's a zero.
MarieDNC-(spending our money ) And now that they have all of it, do they really care if they win or not now? You have to admit that outside of McCains honorable service & valor in the military, He's really a go to sleep kinda guy, hey. Oil & War are his mantra & at best he's very weak & lame sounding on those two topics.
ALL-AMERICAN SURGE!
-- As Americans in vast numbers
now collectively converge
with their once-in-a-lifetime
vote-for-transformation to emerge,
McLost-it-in-November becomes
a Grand Old Party dirge --
as a strong and risen people
lead their history-making SURGE!
VOTE DEMOCRAT 2008
OUR TIME HAS COME
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good morning democrats, progressives and everyone hoping for a new day for our country. looks like the weather in denver is going to be delightful for obama tonight...i guess god doesn't give a darn what sally and the focus on the family thinks...
the senator from texas as vp? let's check on her record on abortion...
"Hutchison is against outlawing abortion.[5] She also believes that the decision of the United States Supreme Court in Roe v. Wade was appropriate and secures a constitutional right, and that it should not be overturned."
i don't think dobson would ever let mcsame do that...but i do hope mcsame goes ahead anyway cause what he might gain in votes will never match what he'll lose from the right wing nuts....
David Kusnet captures some of the convention's best lines so far in The Nation:
"So, as Pennsylvania Senator Bob Casey declared, McCain isn't a maverick--he's Bush's sidekick. And, as Ohio Governor Ted Strickland explained: "You know, it was once said of the first George Bush that he was born on third base and thought he'd hit a triple. Well, with the 22 million new jobs and the budget surplus Bill Clinton left behind, George W. Bush came into office on third base, and then he stole second. And John McCain cheered him every step of the way." Montana Governor Brian Schweitzer--the surprise star of the evening--said that the nation couldn't meet its energy needs just by drilling for oil, even if we drilled in every one of John McCain's back yards."
Morning gregg,
I'm waiting for those thousands of 35 mph wind-rated trailers to be destroyed by Gustav. If it happens, I hope it happens during bush's speech. I pray that everyone will be evacuated before the trailers blow away and that no one is injured.
How will bush explain his lame trailers. First they are condemned for excreting Formaldehyde and killing people now they may by blown away in the wind. Go figure. That no bid contract for fancy trailers really paid off for the manufacturer. The manufacturer is probably on of bush's brothers.
Anyone living in hurricane or earthquake country knows that trailers are required to be tied down so they don't blow or tip over. I guess neocons don't pay attention to stinking building codes. They are too busy raking in our money and don't care if a few thousand citizens die in the process.
These are Republican family values.
The fact that we are dead last in infant mortality is a further sign that Republicans don't give a shit about anyone but themselves and their money.
Family values, HUMPF! They can stick their family values where the sun doesn't shine.
Obama has more family values in his little finger than all the Republicans put together.
The Republicans had better not ever refer to family values again or I will punch them in the mouth.
Good morning, boys and girls.
Matt's up bright and early this morning...he must be so excited to be back of all of this.
Anyways....there's a NEW MORNING OPEN THREAD.
It's B Day, folks. Almost time for lift off.
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