Kicking Ass: The Democratic Party's Blog

Morning Open Thread

Posted by Matt Ortega on August 28, 2008 at 09:22 AM

Chat away...

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Good morning, all.

Are you ready for the ultimate Rocky Mountain high?

Posted by SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 09:33 AM

Matt, are you really high on something? I could have sworn I posted this on the morning thead. What's with the Sunday one?

Is that going to be the watch for the Republican Convention...and/or Hurricane Gustav?

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SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 09:39 AM

Now that the Clinton's have given their speeches and in both cases were supportive and excellent I wonder why the media hyped up the BIG DISASTER all this would be?? Couldn't have been self interest as in 1.) Driving up viewership for those who slow down when passing road carnage and 2.) The fact that they really love McSame??

I did watch KKKarl on Fox for a few seconds after Big Dog's speech...it was hysterical how he was trying to spin the speech as anything but what it was....brilliant.

With the great rain prayer effort by those humble Christians of Dobson's Focus on Someone Else's Family having gone unanswered by God I suspect Obama will rock the vote tonight in front of 60 thousand screaming voters....and who knows how many around the world...then next week Bush and McSame will sleep in Katrina style formaldehyde infused mobile homes to prepare for the embalming of their party and world view which is coming 11/4/08.

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gregg on August 28, 2008 at 09:53 AM

gregg,

I suspect a lot of it has to do with not wanting to discuss the real issue...the desperate need for change and to revitalize the middle class. It would be stepping on the toes of their corporate bosses to report the real news.

Sensationalism also makes for great drama and ups ratings and advertising income. As if Hillary and all the rest of our fine speakers didn't have "something" compelling to say?

That seven-eleven house gaffe by McCain hit too deeply and close to home for most Undecided voters. I bet Rove's polling number reflect it in key states. It was like a bucket of cold water thrown in their faces...and McCain is now melting.

So they must keep the Hillary-Obama riff alive (at least in their own minds) to get through next week's convention. There isn't anything "new" the Republicans can offer voters that hasn't been shown to be a failure in the last eight years.

I suppose Kaye Huctchison is their Great White Whore Hope.

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SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 10:10 AM

Wonder how much cash exchanged hands in that one?

Pam: I suspect it was something akin to 30 pieces of silver.

Posted by marymac_memphis on August 27, 2008 at 08:32 PM

mary,

It makes you wonder about a lot of those "Democrats" who crossed over in the primaries. Were they stealth voters, and at least one of them miraculously morphed into a stealth delegate?

It's the kind of childish behavior that the GOP frat boys engage in because they don't have any idea what to do about the mess they've made. It's all the same Republican shits and grins but the bottom 95% isn't laughing any more.

There is no way any Democrat would vote for McCain or the Republicans after what they did to this country.

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SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 10:14 AM

Now that the Clinton's have given their speeches and in both cases were supportive and excellent I wonder why the media hyped up the BIG DISASTER all this would be?? Couldn't have been self interest as in 1.) Driving up viewership for those who slow down when passing road carnage and 2.) The fact that they really love McSame??


Gregg, I am watching the media tap dance around McCain like they did the administration after 9/11! They Know the Republicans will jump on anything they print negatively as being unpatriotic about the old man's POW experience! I am listening to Democratic pundits afraid of the same thing! What the hell is wrong with printing or reporting TRUTH?

He is an old man, poor memory and judgement, knows nothing about Economy or domestic issues, is just another George Bush , has absolutely Nothing other than POW to keep throwing out there!


My gawd, I wish the media would grow a set !

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 10:21 AM

{{{Dors}}} my goombah buddy ! You do not have to go to Mensa school. there in MN, there is an on-line test, called "The Lake Wobegon Edition" where everyone is considered above average and 60% of those test takers qualify for this group. Check it out and you too will be able to brag about your Mensa certificate! hahahaha
Thanks for sticking up for Jacque last night. Stevie used to have the biggest crush on her until the night she admitted he was mentally ill! He has been attacking her ever since!


(ps, I will put my spaghetti sauce up against your's and Greg's anyday !) :)

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 10:27 AM

Where was John McCain?

As hurricane Gustav heads toward the Gulf Coast, we must remind everyone where John McCain and President Bush were as the levees were breaching.
That’s right even after they were informed the levees were breaking, and people were already suffering the largest natural disaster in recent history, John McCain and George Bush thought it was more important to celebrate McCain’s birthday and have cake and then go to Arizona resort for the afternoon.
John McCain either did not have the judgment, or lacked the leadership to stand up to Bush and tell him to get back to the W.H. and mange the overwhelming crisis at hand. If we cannot count on our leaders in a time of crisis when can we count on them? Their lack of concern for the people of the Gulf Coast was at the very least illuminating. Were they saying “Let them eat cake”?

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BillMiller08 on August 28, 2008 at 10:28 AM

My friends, the neocons suck and will never ever again mess up our country. Their greed, arrogance and utter disregard for human life makes Hitler look like a prince of men. These people must be prosecuted in January and sent to prison for life.

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Johne on August 28, 2008 at 10:31 AM

Where was John McCain?

As hurricane Gustav heads toward the Gulf Coast, we must remind everyone where John McCain and President Bush were as the levees were breaching during Katrina.
That’s right, even after they were informed the levees were breaking, and people were already suffering the largest natural disaster in recent history, John McCain and George Bush thought it was more important to celebrate McCain’s birthday and have cake, and then go to Arizona resort for the afternoon.
John McCain either did not have the judgment, or lacked the leadership to stand up to Bush and tell him to get back to the W.H. and manage the overwhelming crisis at hand. If we cannot count on our leaders in a time of crisis when can we count on them? Their lack of concern for the people of the Gulf Coast during a crisis was at the very least illuminating. Were they saying “Let them eat cake”?
Please someone, make the commercial before the hurricane hits. I hear the Republicans are planning to send John McCain to the region if it does hit. The commercial needs to happen immediately !

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BillMiller08 on August 28, 2008 at 10:35 AM

Posted by Johne on August 28, 2008 at 08:51 AM

Johne,

My question is why are people still living in trailers three years after the Hurricanes. There has been more than enough time to re-build casinos and resort condos.

And why are the Republicans dragging their feet on Global Warming? These violent storms are just getting worse and morphing into gigantic tornadoes and wind sheers event all over the interior of this country.

Climate change can no longer be ignored. When New York City, Atlanta, and Phoenix all experienced tornadoes marching dow their downtown corridors something is terribly wrong. It has to be faced.

Those California fires are another indication tha Nature is out of kilter. Forestry officials say that a lot of the old growth Alpine ecosystem at the top of mountains is dead. And it's not reviving like it used to down at lower altitudes.

We are killing our own habitats.

Oh, hell. Now the media bimbos are back to wondering if Bill will show up tonight. Next they will be asking if he's going to bring a date. Frickin' incompetent, unprofessional bastards.

I've gotta run. later.

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SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 10:37 AM

I get a kick out of stories like this one. Don't get me wrong, I PRAY McCain is stupid enough to choose Lieberman! But this is nothing more than trying to rile the Democrats! And ole sore loser, thrown out of Democratic party Lieberman is playing right along! They really believe a Registered Democrat (yes, he never changed his registration after we kicked him out of the party), a Pro Choice, 90% Liberal voting record will fly with the Base??? The ONLY thing Lieberman has is his insistent Chicken Hawk mouth, while his own sons sit nice and safe and other people's kids die for Israel and Oil!!!

Rove tried to kill Lieberman VP pick


http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080828/pl_politico/12922

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 AM

Posted by BillMiller08 on August 28, 2008 at 10:28 AM

Wonderful insight. We can't depend on them. They are entirely out of touch. They don't know a disaster even while it's happening.

bbl.

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SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 10:42 AM

Google mccain/POW, etc. and you will find veterans groups who have laid it all out. They even have pictures of mccain hugging his captors at a "reunion". WTF.

All this talk of him being tortured in the camp is apparently bull. Who would hug a captor who tortured supposedly brutally tortured them. mccains story doesn't wash. If we even suggest publicly that mccain lied about his captivity, all the flag waving commies (aka dumbass voters) will flip out.

mccain was actually hugging several of his captors in the pictures. In my mind this makes him a commie pig and not fit to be president.

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Johne on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 AM

Get your Obama products, folks:


http://www.buzzflash.com/store/categories/32/


and if you liked Hillary's 'No Way, No How, No McCain" quote, then you can order it here:


http://bumperstickers.cafepress.com/item/no-mccain-sticker-rectangle/298791607

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 10:44 AM

and this if for MN Thomass, who is now trying to disguise his ugly self as Gazoo! His employer gets a kick out of his various names, as his Qwest Communications IP flies high!


Military donations favor Obama over McCain

Thursday August 14, 6:31 pm ET

Troops donate more campaign money to Obama than McCain, despite McCain's military record


Oh, and here is the FACTS, from unbiased Open Secrets on the amounts being shown coming into the campaigns!!!


Troops Deployed Abroad Give 6:1 to Obama
During World War II, soldiers crouching in foxholes penned letters assuring their sweethearts that they'd be home soon. Now, between firefights in the Iraqi desert, some infantrymen have been sending a different kind of mail stateside: two or three hundred dollars -- or whatever they can spare -- towards a presidential election that could very well determine just how soon they come home.

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/08/troops-deployed-abroad-give-61.html


hmmmmm, now I wonder just who these contributors are going to VOTE for??? The guy who wants them to be there another 100 years and to add iran to this portfolio, Or the guy who understands this was all a lie, and getting them home!

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 10:51 AM

Posted by Johne on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 AM

He was tortured. They were all tortured. Probably no less or more than we torture "detainees" in this country. The plain fact of the matter though, is that just because you endured torture, doesn't make you qualifed for the presidency.

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BlueinIdaho on August 28, 2008 at 11:01 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/08/28/russia.georgia.cold.war/index.html

OMG, did you guys hear this? Putin thinks the conflict was orchestrated by the US.

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Cate on August 28, 2008 at 11:07 AM

Testing

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sunny on August 28, 2008 at 11:31 AM

And so when TIME's James Carney and Michael Scherer were invited to the front of McCain's plane recently for an interview, they were ushered forward, past the curtain that now separates reporters from the candidate, past the sofa that was designed for his gabfests with the press and taken straight to the candidate's seat. McCain at first seemed happy enough to do the interview. But his mood quickly soured. The McCain on display in the 24-minute interview was prickly, at times abrasive, and determined not to stray off message. An excerpt:

McBush gets crotchety with the press

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BlueinIdaho on August 28, 2008 at 11:35 AM

Good to see blogging and bloggers getting attention. Deval Patrick learning to blog and Howard Dean eating with the bloggers and chatting.

Howard Dean, BBQ, bloggers, Deval Patrick

Nice pictures included.

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sunny on August 28, 2008 at 11:35 AM

John McCain promised a group of supporters that he will continue nominating hard-line conservative activist judges to the federal courts. In all probability, two more Supreme Court vacancies will come up during the next 4 years. With McCain in the White House, that means more justices like Alito, Roberts, Scalia and Thomas, and a hard-line right-wing Supreme Court that will be in place for a generation. The same thing will happen to the entire federal court system. That also means more decisions in favor of big corporations, and more hostility toward unions and working people, families, consumers and what is left of the middle class.

The decision we as working people make this year will affect our children and our grandchildren.

Can this nation afford a continuation of the disastrous policies of the Bush administration? Please think about that before you cast your vote.

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 11:39 AM

Best line this week:

I have known and been friends with John McCain for almost 22 years, but every day now I learn something new about Candidate McCain. To those who still believe in the myth of a maverick instead of the reality of a politician, I say let’s compare Senator McCain to Candidate McCain.

Candidate McCain now supports the very wartime tax cuts that Senator McCain once called irresponsible. Candidate McCain criticizes Senator McCain’s own climate change bill. Candidate McCain says he would vote against the immigration bill that Senator McCain wrote.

Are you kidding me, folks?

“Before he ever debates Barack Obama, he should finish the debate with himself.”

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/28/sen-kerry-blasts-mccain-lets-compare-senator-mccain-and-candidate-mccain/

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BlueinIdaho on August 28, 2008 at 11:45 AM

I have more respect for Hillary than I ever did before:

“With eyes firmly fixed on the future, in the spirit of unity, with the goal of victory, with faith in our party and our country, let’s declare together, in one voice, right here, right now, that Barack Obama is our candidate and he will be our President. Madame Secretary, I move that the convention suspend the procedural rules and suspend the further conduct of the roll cal vote — all votes cast by the delegates will be counted — and I move Senator Barack Obama of Illinois be sleceted by this convetion by acclamation as the nominee of the democtaric party for president of the United States.”

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/28/sen-kerry-blasts-mccain-lets-compare-senator-mccain-and-candidate-mccain/

I wonder if Ron Paul will be so giving....

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BlueinIdaho on August 28, 2008 at 11:53 AM

I thought Beau Biden's speech was beautiful. His introduction of his father was well-executed. Joe Biden followed with an amazing presentation. Critics can claim that he fumbled, and did not do justice to the campaign, but they are wrong! Biden is not on this ticket to appeal to the highly educated, politically active Dems (or independents for that matter...) He is on this ticket because HE can complete it: 1.)experience. 2.) He speaks to the cops, firemen, linemen, teachers, etc...

Joe Biden's speech did exactly what it should have done: focused on women, family (his kitchen table scenario) and appealed to everyone who does not have a doctorate in Political Science, International Law, etc...

I'm very excited about TONIGHT!

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Lindsay_M_22 on August 28, 2008 at 11:58 AM
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DemocracyWon on August 28, 2008 at 12:02 PM

Cate, there is an article from a couple days ago, that Cheney Aide was in the State of Georgia before this all began. What does That tell you? That Putin is absolutely correct that this was all orchestrated by the USA and PNAC!

Why was Cheney aide in Georgia before the conflict?»


http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/26/why-was-cheney-aide-in-georgia-before-the-conflict/


The October Surprise a little bit early:

Georgia War a Neocon Election Ploy

http://www.truthout.org/article/georgia-war-a-neocon-election-ploy

This will give you a little map, and show the reason why Georgia does not want any of the areas to secede!


http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2008/08/200882015569582756.html

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 12:03 PM
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DemocracyWon on August 28, 2008 at 12:05 PM

hello

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dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 12:10 PM
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DemocracyWon on August 28, 2008 at 12:12 PM

John McCain promised a group of supporters that he will continue nominating hard-line conservative activist judges to the federal courts. In all probability, two more Supreme Court vacancies will come up during the next 4 years. With McCain in the White House, that means more justices like Alito, Roberts, Scalia and Thomas, and a hard-line right-wing Supreme Court that will be in place for a generation. The same thing will happen to the entire federal court system. That also means more decisions in favor of big corporations, and more hostility toward unions and working people, families, consumers and what is left of the middle class.
Posted by chassie on August 28, 2008 at 11:39 AM

chassie, if for NO other reason than this one, those Female Hillary supporters had better get real, and understand that they're voting for McCain out of spite, will turn around and bite them and their female future generations right in the ass!!!

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 12:15 PM

Hard Facts vs. Easy Money

I have been a passionate civil libertarian and an independent voter my entire life. At one point I entertained the possibility of voting for John McCain in the upcoming presidential election. Politics is a filthy business and Barack Obama is nowhere near dirty enough for the task. I envisioned McCain as the candidate who could clean up the Republican Party and restore its credibility endowed by leaders such as Abraham Lincoln. McCain often described Washington as a, "culture of corruption," and I believed that his experience would allow him to rally the few remaining public servants in the government and, along with Democrats, achieve compromises which would represent the will of the people. I had great hope right up until Dick Cheney took McCain aside and graphically introduced him to the astronomical amount of money with which McCain could line his pockets by towing the corporate line. After being offered membership in the self-proclaimed illuminati, McCain went, overnight, from a reformer to a conformist.

By his own admission, McCain is a man of great ambition. The lure of easy money can erase a man's integrity faster than the click of a mouse but McCain would not understand that analogy. I have often been referred to as a keen observer of human nature yet, I have a difficult time understanding supporters of the Cheney-Bush-McCain regime. Then again, I still don't understand how Jimmy Jones was able to convince more than 900 people to stand in line and voluntarily consume a lethal dose of poison.

With the addition of Joe Biden to Obama’s team, I feel confident that the revitalized Democratic Party now has a capable navigator. The effectiveness of a captain is determined by the proficiency of his crew. Obama must continue to exercise similar sound judgment with Cabinet appointments to insulate himself from a corrupt political machine that was installed during the Reagan administration and has had free rein for the last eight years.

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misterconcept on August 28, 2008 at 12:19 PM

Mensa school. there in MN, there is an on-line test, called "The Lake Wobegon Edition i from minnesota never heard of it what are you talking about pam ?

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dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 12:22 PM

chassie, if for NO other reason than this one, those Female Hillary supporters had better get real, and understand that they're voting for McCain out of spite, will turn around and bite them and their female future generations right in the ass!!!


Posted by PamB on August 28, 2008 at 12:15 PM


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Pam your exactly right, which is why i posted it, trying to wake these women, UP!! They better wake UP!!!!

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 12:24 PM

Good afternoon-ish all!

Pam, KKKarl Rover was also in Georgia a few weeks before the mess started.

Looks like the Little Prince is going to hide out in a secret location.

Fox: Bush might not speak at RNC on Monday because of Gustav.

Gee, I wonder why?

Hurricane Gustav is headed in a straight line for New Orleans and I can tell you first-hand that the hydraulic pumps don't work. Who manufactured the defective pumps? Moving Waters Industry (MWI), which is owned by J. David Eller, who was once a business partner of former Florida Governor Jeb Bush. (From 1989 to 1993 the two operated the company Bush-El, which marketed MWI pumps.)

Hurricane Gustav Headed for New Orleans & Pumps Don't Work

Having the levees "repaired" using old newspapers can't be all that reassuring either.

4 Investigates: Floodwalls stuffed with newspaper?

Heck of a job, Chimpy!

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 12:29 PM

testing

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dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 12:30 PM

(ps, I will put my spaghetti sauce up against your's and Greg's anyday !) :)

Posted by PamB on August 28, 2008 at 10:27 AM

Pam if you could or would be so kind, to post your spaghetti sauce recipe, I for one would appreciate it. ( I Love Spaghetti ) Thanks in advance if you do, if you don't that o.k. too.

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 12:36 PM

I don't know about anyone else but has anyone felt very emonional about all of this? Not only the possibilty of having a Dem president but the long nightmare of republican rule might be ending. I've so emontional about all of this. Last night was no different.

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Kathy_from_Indiana on August 28, 2008 at 12:38 PM

With the addition of Joe Biden to Obama’s team, I feel confident that the revitalized Democratic Party now has a capable navigator. The effectiveness of a captain is determined by the proficiency of his crew. Obama must continue to exercise similar sound judgment with Cabinet appointments to insulate himself from a corrupt political machine that was installed during the Reagan administration and has had free rein for the last eight years.
Posted by misterconcept on August 28, 2008 at 12:19 PM


this is exactly WHY the arguement that Obama does not have experience is ridiculous. Of course he will choose someone to head up every dept, from Health & Human services (Hillary?), to Sec. of State, to Treasury, etc. It is not WHAT you know, it is WHO you know. I learned that in Management 101 course !

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 12:46 PM

mistercon - beautiful. Just plain and simply beautiful! Well said.

I had forgotten that McCain was with Bush when Katrina hit. We have to keep pounding that in!!!

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Kathy_from_Indiana on August 28, 2008 at 12:46 PM

dusty, that on line Mensa test is one that our resident troll, Steve/Sally took to get his certificate. I think you have to live in MN to take it. You don't live there, do you?

The troll will be able to give you details on it, but it must not be too hard, as proven by his website and Ebay sales.

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 12:47 PM

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 12:29 PM

Wow. Paper levees and formaldehyde trailers. That about sums up the incompetence of a GOP administration. Let's pray that the villagers don't elect Bush 44.

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BlueinIdaho on August 28, 2008 at 12:48 PM

ima from minnesota lived here all my life pam

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dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 12:50 PM

Posted by misterconcept on August 28, 2008 at 12:19 PM

Nice Post!

Just a quick 'hit and run'
Obama/Biden 2008!
Show your love for your country by voting for the best candidate! Obama/Biden 2008!
Tuke for Tennessee 2008!
Go Dems Go!
BBL

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marymac_memphis on August 28, 2008 at 12:51 PM

Obama 101


OR

Obama for dummies


Obama, Ayers conection

The terrorist part was just a bonus, the power and money part was the point.

====================================


That's how William Ayers got where he was. When he came out of hiding because the federal government was unable to prosecute him (because of government misconduct), he got a degree in education from Columbia and then moved to Chicago and got a job on the education faculty of the University of Illinois-Chicago Circle. How did he get that job? Well, it can't have hurt that his father, Thomas Ayers, was chairman of Commonwealth Edison (now Exelon) and a charter member of the Chicago establishment. As Mayor Richard M. Daley said recently, in arguing that the Ayers association should not be held against Obama, "His father was a great friend of my father."


http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2008/08/22/obama-needs-to-explain-his-ties-to-william-ayers.html
=============================================

William Ayers's daddy,

Thomas Ayers, was chairman of Commonwealth Edison (now Exelon) and a charter member of the Chicago establishment.

Commonwealth Edison (or "ComEd"), owned by Exelon Corporation, is the largest electric utility in Illinois, serving the Chicago and Northern Illinois area.

. The company's revenues total more than $15 billion annually.
=========================================


Now do you get the idea.

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Desertbloom on August 28, 2008 at 12:53 PM

Obama 101

OR

Obama for dummies

John McCain may have forgot how many houses he owns, but Obama went to Rev. Wrights church for 20 years and forgot every time Wright said " G** damn America", didn't he?

Obama is still looking for the missing 7 states to canpaign in, all he can find is 50.

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Desertbloom on August 28, 2008 at 12:58 PM

desert bloom thier only 50 states you idiot

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dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 12:59 PM

Obama 101


OR


Obama for dummies


Obama is a multi millionaire, he just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii and cant afford spare change for his half brother....tsk,tsk

He donates very little to charity.


Some people claim he is poor, racist who think if he is black, he must be poor.

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Desertbloom on August 28, 2008 at 01:04 PM

I think Kerry for Attorney General would be GREAT. Plus, it would have the additional bonus of making the Bush Crime Syndicate shake in their loafers.

Remember BCCI?

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 01:04 PM

is this cactass dan we dont care what you have to say go away

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dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 01:06 PM

ima from minnesota lived here all my life pam Posted by dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 12:50 PM


I didn't know that, dusty. Then you will definetly want to look into that On Line Mensa test. Sally passed it, so you can too!


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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 01:14 PM

chassie,

My spaghetti sauce is all in my head. It is a family recipe that I enlarged on.

It takes Italian tomatoes, tomato sauce, paste, onions, peppers, burger, and chunks of pork , and sometimes chicken goes into it too. Lots of Garlic and Italian seasoning. (Fresh tomatoes give it a whole new experience!)

the trick is to let it simmer for hours on the back of the stove. My Mother's would go all day long.

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 01:18 PM

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 12:29 PM

Thanks for the links Doo-Bee. I can't believe this shit. No wonder Bush is canceling his speech on Monday.

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 01:20 PM

Tonight Obama , Cesar comes out through the Temple Gate to be lavished with rose peddles thrown from above as the Senators in the back ground sharpen their swords.

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Desertbloom on August 28, 2008 at 01:20 PM

Using the Latest Congnitive Linquistics to Fine Tune Obama's Message

Obama and Biden can improve their appeal by dropping all that will sound apologetic to many listeners. That means leaving off prefacing every criticism of McCain with "I respect McCain but..." or "McCain is my friend but..". What the voters get from this is a warm, fuzzy picture of McCain, followed by some policy differences, which significantly cuts the effectiveness of the message. That humility may have been necessary when Obama was a virtual unknown and McCain was a prominent name, but at this point it comes across as a lack of self-respect. McCain won't bow down to them before stating a criticism. Ditto the insistence that all parties are equally good. At least that's how its coming across, rather than what the campaign is trying to convey--that Obama will work openly with everyone. The problem is not ideological, it's pragmatic, because reality contradicts what most handlers think.

George Lakoff explained in his last book why research shows that a non-partisan message doesn't attract independents as most campaign managers think it will. Seems that people can hold only one version of reality in their heads at a time, so independents look at both parties' frames and choose the one that grabs them. The message can be moderate, but it would have to be aggressively so. Something like "I stand for what Americans have always stood for...", which distinguishes itself by framing the opponent as an extremist. Independents are looking for something distinct enough that they can develop a rooting interest in it. They are not looking for something that claims it takes no side.

I still think we're winning, but I thought so in 2004, too. So I am concerned that the apologetic subtext continues with Obama's running as a virtual independent and distancing himself from the Democratic brand in his points about why his Presidency will be vastly superior to McCain's. There's an overdose of how "party won't matter". It's gotten to the point that the listener might get a subliminal impression that the candidate is ashamed of being a Democrat.

Independents go by their gut feeling about the candidate and the message, and are not more likely to vote for candidates who keep repeating they don't stand for a party. In fact, remarks like that probably inject a note of unappealing timidity. And that line is certainly not going to help get a sympathetic Congress elected. It just misleads the independents into thinking there'll be no difference if they vote for a Republican representative to work with Obama.

With best wishes for the campaign and our country,
Laura

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ClearEye on August 28, 2008 at 01:23 PM

The Obama/ayers story backfired on the Repugs!!!

Now do YOU got it????????

"Denver - Sen. Barack Obama's campaign and its allies, mindful of the lessons of the Swift boat attacks of 2004, have begun an aggressive, multi-pronged attack on an advertisement running in swing states that seeks to link the Democratic presidential candidate to former domestic terrorist William Ayers.

With threats of legal action, boycotts and a response ad launched quietly to avoid publicity, the Obama campaign has put conservative donors and television stations on notice that 2008 will not be 2004, when Sen. John F. Kerry, the Democratic nominee, waited weeks to respond to attacks on his Vietnam War record and ultimately did so ineffectively. Christian Pinkston, a spokesman for the American Issues Project, which is airing the anti-Obama ad, called the response intimidation and harassment.

Obama campaign lawyer Robert F. Bauer replied: "If someone rides up to a convenience store with a sawed-off shotgun and a prior record, I'm not intimidating anybody by calling the cops. . . . If this [Republican] campaign is going to be run in McCarthyite fashion by lawbreakers in an illegal way, they are going to pay a price


http://www.truthout.org/article/obama-moves-confront-swiftboaters

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 01:27 PM

Yeah, right. I can't wait to see what they throw at McSame when he does his speech. Speaking of spaghetti sauce.

Columns? Is that all you got? Chimpy had columns. McSame had columns every government building in D.C. is based on Greek Revival architecture and you whiners are all a-twitter because of the stage set?

Get lost, loser.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 01:30 PM

McCain does not like to talk about "Honor" anymore. Could it be because he has lost all integrity, character, honor???

"Reporters have frequently commented on the degeneration of John McCain's "Straight Talk Express" policy throughout the campaign, but his lack of openness with the press came to the fore in a recent interview with Time Magazine. Below are some excerpts from the interview.

McCain at first seemed happy enough to do the interview. But his mood quickly soured. The McCain on display in the 24-minute interview was prickly, at times abrasive, and determined not to stray off message.
...

There's a theme that recurs in your books and your speeches, both about putting country first but also about honor. I wonder if you could define honor for us?
Read it in my books.

I've read your books.
No, I'm not going to define it.

But honor in politics?
I defined it in five books. Read my books.

...


In 2000, after the primaries, you went back to South Carolina to talk about what you felt was a mistake you had made on the Confederate flag. Is there anything so far about this campaign that you wish you could take back or you might revisit when it's over?
[Does not answer.]

Do I know you? [Says with a laugh.]
[Long pause.] I'm very happy with the way our campaign has been conducted, and I am very pleased and humbled to have the nomination of the Republican Party.

(And the poor slob does not understand that the Repugs feel bad over the way they treated him back in 2000, allowing all that talk about his child and wife, and so are making up letting the old fool run now!)

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 01:31 PM

Obama 101


OR


Obama for dummies


Obama, Ayers conection

The terrorist part was just a bonus, the power and money part was the point.

====================================


That's how William Ayers got where he was. When he came out of hiding because the federal government was unable to prosecute him (because of government misconduct), he got a degree in education from Columbia and then moved to Chicago and got a job on the education faculty of the University of Illinois-Chicago Circle. How did he get that job? Well, it can't have hurt that his father, Thomas Ayers, was chairman of Commonwealth Edison (now Exelon) and a charter member of the Chicago establishment. As Mayor Richard M. Daley said recently, in arguing that the Ayers association should not be held against Obama, "His father was a great friend of my father."


http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2008/08/22/obama-needs-to-explain-his-ties-to-william-ayers.html
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William Ayers's daddy,


Thomas Ayers, was chairman of Commonwealth Edison (now Exelon) and a charter member of the Chicago establishment.


Commonwealth Edison (or "ComEd"), owned by Exelon Corporation, is the largest electric utility in Illinois, serving the Chicago and Northern Illinois area.

. The company's revenues total more than $15 billion annually.
=========================================


Now do you get the idea.


Posted by Desertbloom on August 28, 2008 at 12:53 PM

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Desertbloom on August 28, 2008 at 01:32 PM


"Just hours after Democrats formally nominated Barack Obama for president, his campaign launched a call-in offensive to WGN radio to protest the appearance Wednesday night of a conservative Obama critic on the "Extension 720 with Milt Rosenberg" talk show.

"WGN radio is giving right-wing hatchet man Stanley Kurtz a forum to air his baseless, fear-mongering terrorist smears," Obama's campaign wrote Wednesay in an e-mail urging supporters to flood the stations phone lines with complaints. "He's currently scheduled to spend a solid two-hour block from 9:00 to 11:00 p.m. pushing lies, distortions, and manipulations about Barack and University of Illinois professor William Ayers."

Read the whole story here.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/28/obama-muscles-radio-stati_n_122046.html

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 01:33 PM

(

CNN) – John McCain will directly address rival Barack Obama Thursday night, in an ad the Arizona senator's campaign is calling "exciting and unprecedented."

The ad, set to run in crucial battleground states, is the McCain campaign's latest in a series of attempts to pull media attention away from the Democratic National convention as Obama gets ready to accept his party's presidential nomination.

The McCain campaign would reveal little details about the commercial, but said it would air around the time Obama is slated to speak before an estimated 75,000 spectators at Invesco field.

Like I said - these creatures will do anything to keep power...John McCain is starting to have that sleaze factor... he is really getting creepy.

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Kathy_from_Indiana on August 28, 2008 at 01:34 PM

CNN reported last night that McCain had made a decision who is VP will be.

Now he is telling them he doesn't know who it will be.

So forgetful, maybe lieberman should whisper in his ear again.

Or maybe, someone turned him down.

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TMH on August 28, 2008 at 01:35 PM

Now do YOU got it????????

When you post garbage from Truthout, you don't "got it".

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Desertbloom on August 28, 2008 at 01:37 PM

Let's start emailing WGN and ask them not to put this crap on the air! What's their link? Anyone?

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Kathy_from_Indiana on August 28, 2008 at 01:42 PM

Posted by PamB on August 28, 2008 at 01:18 PM


--------------------------------------------------

Thanks Pam, i know what you mean about fresh tomatoes, you can't beat them, and i love them never get tired of home grown tomatoes. I've been raising large gardens since i was 10 years old. Use to raise 50 acres of produce for a living in my early years.


Here's a tip for you, i have been growing a tomato called a Brandy wine tomato for years, it wins every taste testing contest they have for tomatoes for years and years now. The Brand wine was breed by the Amish in 1885. Its a pink tomato, now they have breed some red, and yellow ones, off of the strain. But take my word for it grow the pink one's. Its the best tasting Tomato in the World. And has been flown into the White House, and other special events, around the world.

And let me say that this tomato, don't look like any other tomato vine, it has leaves like a potato plant and are very large. These tomatoes will vary in size, from 12 Oz's. to a pound and half. They are not a pretty tomato, have a very thin skin. They look more like a beefsteak variety. They also require staking, as they are very large, and heavy vines, with large limbs, i have grown some as high as 8 feet, tall. Also his tomato is not a hybrid, and you can save the seed from them from year to year. But I usually start with new seeds, every three years. Most all seed companies sell them. But here's a good seed company if your interested, ( Totally Tomatoes ) and they have a on line site you can order them from. Take my word for it you won't be disappointed).

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 01:42 PM
That about sums up the incompetence of a GOP administration.

Posted by BlueinIdaho on August 28, 2008 at 12:48 PM

They're not incompetent. they've accomplished pretty much what they set out to do. They believe government should not interfere with the economic well(or NOT-so-much-well)-being of people (people of course including multinational corporations) and they've done a good job of making sure it can't by slashing budgets, outsourcing government functions to private corps, etc. They made Americans so fearful that they'd give up their civil liberties and obey Daddy's rules. They've created an endless war that can keep sucking the resources of this country dry and enriching the oh, so VERY few. They've actually made it seem as if the myth of the self made man is true. And Democratic candidates and officholders have bought into this bullshit over and over and over, as they keep taking polls that use a conservative point of view, so they think they have to move farther to the right, when in fact, the majority of the country STILL has the SAME old ideas of what freedom, and fairness, and opportunity are. Go ahead, Democrats...ask a REAL fucking question. Ask THIS in a poll: Should corporations have the right to pollute our water, air and land for the sake of profit? Because in a "free market", that's exactly what the corporations get to do...whatever they want. And that's where this country is headed under conservative leaders who think they know best and all the rest of us should STFU.

All I hear from the talking heads during this convention is about how Barack Obama has done eveything the way conservatives say it should be done....BULLSHIT. Barack Obama did NOT make it where he is on his own, he had HELP, you fucking PRICKS. And THAT is the progressive, and hopefully, the Democratic way! Conservatism is hateful, deceitful and IMMORAL! We all have a responsibility to one another, period. Conservatives LOVE to turn 1984 on its head and call liberals "Big Brother"....scuse me? Big Brother wasn't watching over people to protect them, Big Brother was SPYING on people to protect himself....sound like anyone (Bush adminstration which would be continued by McCain) that we know?

Did I have a point here? Oh yeah...NEVER make the mistake of thinking these people are incompetent. The reason the homes have not been rebuilt in NOLA is because there's no PROFIT in it, like there is for the casinos and hotels.

Cleareye, thanks for that post. It sums up a lot of what I've tried to say here for a long time now.

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GregL on August 28, 2008 at 01:44 PM

E-Mail from Pammy

to asshat commies

ref: blog


Post gibberish, we need more gibberish, DopeyDoodle , you can do better!

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Desertbloom on August 28, 2008 at 01:44 PM

uhhhh, stinky cactus boy, if you had taken the time to look, you would see the article on Ayers was from a Washington Post article. You see, bird brain, Truthout is merely the middle man. A third party that reports articles. GOT THAT???


Obama's Response Ad Reflects Lessons of 2004
Wednesday 27 August 2008

»
by: Jonathan Weisman, The Washington Post

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 01:50 PM

Conservatism by any means has destroyed this country. People bought into the language of deceit by ways of making the liberal sound bad. Words like "Bleeding heart liberals, baby killers, tax and spend". By the time we knew what was happening in this country, they had taken over not only the government but the air waves as well. Now people are finally waking up and it is the younger voters who must make the difference. Just as we did in the 60's by almost starting a revolution in this country, the young people will have to step forward. As in any coup, the first order of business, as they all do, is to regain the air waves. In any 3rd world country, when the "rebels" take over, what is the first thing they seize? The newspapers, the radios and the TV stations. We are at the same cross roads in this country. If we want our country back, we have to take control back from the radio stations, the TV stations and the newspapers. Without that, we will not survive.

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Kathy_from_Indiana on August 28, 2008 at 01:55 PM


Chassie, I will have to look into that tomato, sounds yummy. We have diced up tomatoes every night while they are in season. OUr season here is short, so we have been doing the veggies every single night.

I heard someone on NPR one time, I forget who it was, but he was talking about Corn. He made the comment that of all the nation's corn, he liked the Connecticut checkboard (butter and sugar corn) was the best tasting. We have been eating it almost every night! :)

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 01:57 PM

Posted by GregL on August 28, 2008 at 01:44 PM

I believe you are right Greg, they did set out to do exactly what they did. Unfortunately, though, to the majority of the GP, they believe that thought is only held by those with tin-foil hats. They cannot fathom that 9/11 may have been orchestrated within our government or that Katrina played right into the hands of Cheney's buddies. So, for now, we continue with the meme that this has all been sheer incompetence---that is easily believed by the masses. It doesn't mean that we aren't still searching for the pages of their plunder playbook.

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BlueinIdaho on August 28, 2008 at 02:04 PM

Posted by PamB on August 28, 2008 at 01:33 PM

Pam, I didn't hear it, but I have a feeling that guest left Tribune Tower with his ass on a plate.

The show is hosted by the (as described by one of the local media critics) "snooty" Professor Milton Rosenberg of the University of Chicago. He's been doing that show for over 30 years, and he doesn't chew his cabbage twice, as they say.

To say the guy is well read is like saying Chimpy is an ass. It's redundant.

Milton J. Rosenberg

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 02:05 PM
It doesn't mean that we aren't still searching for the pages of their plunder playbook.

Posted by BlueinIdaho on August 28, 2008 at 02:04 PM

Ummm, try this: The Project for the New American Century

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GregL on August 28, 2008 at 02:17 PM

bbl, time for me to get back to work.

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GregL on August 28, 2008 at 02:18 PM
Republicans "are so good at defining the Democrats that was nice to give them a taste of their own medicine,"

This from another blog. They were speaking about Biden and Clinton last night. And they are so right. We have to keep calling the Republicans as we see them. If we keep repeating it, the American people will beleive it.

As Randi Rhoades has said, the Republicans have and are everything they accuse the Democrats in being. From tax and spend to perverts..it is they who have become what they have accused us in being. And we need to start hammering that to the American people.

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Kathy_from_Indiana on August 28, 2008 at 02:21 PM

The American people have decided to take away the reins of power and the leadership of America from the rich family dynasties, corporations and right wing wacko’s and return the power to the people.

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Phil_Waste on August 28, 2008 at 02:23 PM

Posted by GregL on August 28, 2008 at 02:17 PM

Ah yes, a good read. Not enough to fry them, though. :)

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BlueinIdaho on August 28, 2008 at 02:24 PM

The American people have decided to take away the reins of power and the leadership of America from the rich family dynasties, corporations and right wing wacko’s and return the power to the people.

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Phil_Waste on August 28, 2008 at 02:26 PM

hahahaha
Thanks for sticking up for Jacque last night. Stevie used to have the biggest crush on her until the night she admitted he was mentally ill! He has been attacking her ever since!

Posted by PamB on August 28, 2008 at 10:27 AM

Wrong, I have never been attracted to fat gals.

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Sally-* on August 28, 2008 at 02:28 PM

I heard someone on NPR one time, I forget who it was, but he was talking about Corn. He made the comment that of all the nation's corn, he liked the Connecticut checkboard (butter and sugar corn) was the best tasting. We have been eating it almost every night! :)

Posted by PamB on August 28, 2008 at 01:57 PM


Pam I've grown just about every kind of corn their is in the last 53 years. As my wife and i had a produce stand for years, in both Indiana and here in Georgia. I presume that when you say checkerboard, your taking about bi colored corn, both yellow, and white kernels on the cob. They have many good varieties of this kind of corn breed in the last few years. Most are good, but some are better then others. And then there is a couple that is too damn good.

Here's one for you a totally white corn, that i guarantee you will be, one of the best you ever ate, if not the best. Its a hybrid the name of it is Mattapoisett 78 to 82 days to germination, although its kind of expensive, around 15.00 per pound, but is well worth it. You can pull this corn off of stalk, leave it on the shuck, put it in a platic bag,in the frig. and it will be just as good, 2 week later, as the day you pull it off the stalk. And also is the best freezer corn that we have ever froze. You can order it from (Sigers Seed Company) which also has a on line site. Belief me i know my vegtables, not many that i have not grown at one time or the other.

Here's another tip for all you vegtable growers, out there, store all of your left over seeds in a platic bag, in the deep freeze from year to year. This is the best way to keep them, take my word for it. Seeds are expensive these days, so keep the ones thats left for the next year.

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 02:29 PM

They're not incompetent. they've accomplished pretty much what they set out to do.

GregL,


I have to admit that the Republicans know how to run the best campaigns! They understand that American voters say they hate negative ads, yet that they work. there is always that part of the population that are easily manipulated.

Their specific aims at voters are unmatched by the Democrats. They know which groups are the soccer Moms, Nascar fans, the rural groups. That is how they won last time. Preaching the message each of these groups wanted to hear.


Democrats are far too nice. Far too behind. Our think tanks and Institutes better get cranking! If we were where the Republicans are on campaigning, there would not be a Reublican party any more !

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 02:34 PM

Pam please excuse my mistake, i meant to say 78 to 82 days to maturity, not germination.

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 02:35 PM

"As the third night of the Democratic National Convention drew to a close, several questions bombarded the Search box: How was Bill Clinton's speech? What does "cronyism" mean? And who is Beau Biden?

Joe Biden's son Beau introduced his father last night and made his first appearance in the national consciousness. In an address warmly received by convention attendees, the Delaware attorney general spoke of the deaths of his mother and sister in a car accident in 1972. He praised his dad and expressed love for his stepmother, Jill Biden. And he called on Democrats to "be there" for his father in the upcoming months when "it won't be possible" for him to be there himself.

Won't be possible? Here's what the 39-year-old left unsaid: Beau Biden is a captain in the Army National Guard, and in early October his unit deploys for Iraq. Why he kept silent on this, we can't say, but it certainly sparked the attention of watchers (and maybe that's the answer). Lookups for "beau biden" surged almost immediately, as did queries for the misspelled "bo biden," perhaps helped along by one network's typo.

By the next morning, blogs like The Dallas Morning News' Trail Blazers had reprinted parts of Beau's speech, and The Washington Post mused about the young man's political future. The New Jersey Politicker declared, "Biden's son brings tears to the New Jersey delegation," and the New York Daily News reported that Michelle Obama looked a little weepy herself.

http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/91747/

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 02:36 PM

This was posted a month ago, but still brings a LMAO moment!

Why I am Voting Republican!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiQJ9Xp0xxU

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 02:41 PM

Some Clinton Donors Are Contributing to McCain
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Conventions/story?id=5676191&page=1

Posers couldn't buy the Democrat Party showing their true colors. Run posers run!

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Phil_Waste on August 28, 2008 at 02:42 PM

Global frickin warmin is a bitch!

Okanagan Orchardists Face Major Crop Losses

CBC News

Fruit growers in B.C.’s southern Okanagan valley are counting their losses after unseasonally brutal weather destroyed much of this year’s crop. Officials estimate 100 fruit growers in the Osoyoos area suffered significant losses after heavy frost in April followed by hail, rain and a fierce windstorm in July wiped out much of the fragile crops. Spring frosts killed fruit blossoms in other areas of the region as well.

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Cherry crop in the valley is normally worth $50 million on the retail market. See large image here

With its hot summer temperatures and intensive irrigation systems, the Okanagan is one of the most productive agricultural areas in B.C. But for orchardists like Ranbir Kambo, this year’s crop of apples, cherries and apricots is a total writeoff. “Everything is history. There is nothing we can salvage - 98 per cent damage. There is no way anybody could salvage anything out of it,” Kambo said as he walked through his 18-acre fruit orchard in Osoyoos on Wednesday.

He is not alone. Ken Ziebart, the claims monitor for the Ministry of Agriculture, said the government is still tallying the losses, but it estimates it will pay out more than $5 million dollars in insurance payments, one of the largest payouts for the region in recent years.

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Sally-* on August 28, 2008 at 02:45 PM

Notice how McCain campaign choice of VP is bringing so LITTLE excitement, that the campaign itself if playing a game of "Did he Choose" or "Did He Not" all by themselves? And they ran the little story today about how Rove called Lieberman to beg him not to run as VP!

These poor slobs just don't understand no one really gives a damn who they choose. Whomever will be just another inferior Repug. Gotta be Romney. The other couple have never even been heard of before. Plus they are hoping that Romney will throw some of his money into it.

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 02:46 PM

???Universal Healthcare???

Watching this weeks convention, I keep hearing this come up as a repetative battle cry of the Democratic Party. I'm for it.. Everyones for it..

There's only one problem though.. Myself being a stout centrist and only political affliation is to the side of common sense, I wonder if universal healthcare something our government can even handle in a fiscally responsible way.

Mind you this is the same entity that pays $200 dollars for a hammer... Burns thru money faster than they can print it... A bureaucracy stifled by so much red tape. A bureaucracy that seemingly has the money management skills of a kid in the candy store.

You want to turn healthcare over to this entity...? For realsy??? Or worse yet do you want the government to get in bed with the insurance companies... Ever heard the parable about the scorpion and the fron...

I'm all for universal healthcare. Everybody is.. It's just that a large group of us are terrified of the government running it. Terrified that this bureaucracy will burn thru billions of dollars to create a worse system.

At the end of the day though.. I believe it can be done. I believe something needs to be done, but don't give me pie in sky dreams without addressing solutions to the underlying skepticism and truths that it's based on..

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BrotherJonathan on August 28, 2008 at 02:49 PM

???Universal Healthcare???

Watching this weeks convention, I keep hearing this come up as a repetative battle cry of the Democratic Party. I'm for it.. Everyones for it..

There's only one problem though.. Myself being a stout centrist and only political affliation is to the side of common sense, I wonder if universal healthcare something our government can even handle in a fiscally responsible way.

Mind you this is the same entity that pays $200 dollars for a hammer... Burns thru money faster than they can print it... A bureaucracy stifled by so much red tape. A bureaucracy that seemingly has the money management skills of a kid in the candy store.

You want to turn healthcare over to this entity...? For realsy??? Or worse yet do you want the government to get in bed with the insurance companies... Ever heard the parable about the scorpion and the fron...

I'm all for universal healthcare. Everybody is.. It's just that a large group of us are terrified of the government running it. Terrified that this bureaucracy will burn thru billions of dollars to create a worse system.

At the end of the day though.. I believe it can be done. I believe something needs to be done, but don't give me pie in sky dreams without addressing solutions to the underlying skepticism and truths that it's based on..

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BrotherJonathan on August 28, 2008 at 02:49 PM

While Ted Kennedy and Michelle Obama were rocking the Democratic convention in Denver, John McCain made his 13th appearance with Jay Leno to joke about his age. McCain joked, "You forgot to mention that I warned the people about the British coming," and added, "my Social Security number is eight."

McCain has repeatedly tried to dismiss concerns about his age with late-night jokes. On Saturday Night Live, he quipped: "What should we be looking for in our next president? Certainly someone who is very, very, very old."

But McCain's age is no joke. He will turn 72 on Friday and would be halfway to 73 if elected and sworn in on January 20. That would make him the oldest first-term President ever, two years older than Ronald Reagan. He has survived four skin cancers (melanomas), including one in 2000 that was classified as Stage IIa.

McCain is two years older than his father was when he died suddenly of a heart attack at 70. He is 11 years older than his grandfather was when he died suddenly of a heart attack at age 61.

The United States cannot afford the risk that McCain would die suddenly in the middle of an international crisis.

Nor can we afford the risk of dementia. 22% of Americans over 70 are affected by mild cognitive impairment, while 13% of Americans over 65 have Alzheimer's. Ronald Reagan was diagnosed with Alzheimer's at age 83, but early signs were evident during his first term. Britain's "Iron Lady" Margaret Thatcher developed dementia at age 75.

Prescriptions can also adversely affect mental function. McCain takes Simvastatin, an arthritis drug that can cause memory loss. McCain also takes Ambien to sleep, which can cause amnesia and "fugue states" like the one that caused Rep. Patrick Kennedy's late-night car crash. If the phone rang at 3 a.m., would McCain even wake up?

McCain's medical records are not available to physicians. He did not "release" them for the campaign; he only allowed hand-picked reporters to examine them quickly without making copies. And there were no results of an Alzheimer's test, because McCain has never had one - even though he has 6 of the 10 warning signs, including his inability to remember facts like the number of homes he owns or the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003.

John McCain owes America a thorough test for Alzheimer's and cognitive impairment long before Election Day.

To: ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, Newsweek, NPR, NYT, PBS, Time, WP, WSJ

John McCain has repeatedly joked about his advancing age, but electing the oldest first-term President in history at age 72 is no joke.

While the United States is engaged in two wars and a global struggle against terrorists, we cannot afford the risk that McCain would suddenly die of a heart attack like his father (age 70) and grandfather (age 61).

Nor can America afford the risk that McCain would develop cognitive impairment (like 22% of Americans over 70) or Alzheimer's (like 13% of Americans over 65).

When McCain allowed selected reporters to quickly view (but not copy) his medical records in May, there were no test results for Alzheimer's, dementia, or cognitive impairment.

We urge you to call on John McCain to be examined for Alzheimer's and cognitive impairment and to make the results public long before Election Day so the United States does not take a critical risk we cannot afford.

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 02:51 PM

Sorry scorpion and frog:)

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BrotherJonathan on August 28, 2008 at 02:52 PM

Suggestions for healthcare solutions..

1)Billing has to be standardized. Doctors and hospitals are an absolute joke when it comes to this practice. Theres two prices for every medical occassion.. The price if you don't have health care insurance, and then there's the price if you do have health care insurance.. Same procedures, much different prices. The non health insurance cost is typically expensive but reasonable, but if you have health insurance!! CHA CHING!! The same procedure is billed at several times that price. It really is a joke. You can get a flu shot for $18 dollars, but if you go and have a doctor bill that out to an insurance company... That same shot is billed out over $100 dollars.. Does that make sense to anyone...

2 Some kind of way to curtail prescription prices. I don't know if this involves dropping or rewriting patent laws in regards to medicine, but either way that's a double edge sword. If you drop patent laws or whatever and allow more generic drug production it basically destroys your research and developement cast flow.. Now I'm not against the government taking over the research and developement side of drug research. Heck research and development is an area where I believe our government excels at.. or at the very least it can handle that a million times better than it can handle any adminastrative duties. Plus the shared knowledge base that could be created by a government drug research and developemnt program would probably speed things along development. Anyway the answer here is unclear, but I believe the government should begin to slowly develope their ability to move into this sector to curtail costs.

3) Monitary caps on law suits that result of a negligent manner. I'm not saying companies or doctors that knowingly act in the criminal manner shouldn't be held accountable,and sued for whatever possible. But if someone dies because of accident or negligent behavior, while it is a sad and disastrous occasion. It is an unavoidable side effect of trying to save peoples lifes. The monetary caps should be set to try and curb insurance costs for health care providers.

4) Maybe the government should take over healthcare insurance costs for doctors and hospitals. A government issued insurance would greatly decrease the burden of insurance needed by doctors and hospitals and hopefully reduce the overall cost of service.

Anywho, just some random thoughts.. I have to get back to work.. Good luck Barrack!

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BrotherJonathan on August 28, 2008 at 03:14 PM

Posted by BrotherJonathan on August 28, 2008 at 02:49 PM

The question is can this country not afford it?

Health care premiums are burdening business, hurting our productivity when employees use more sick days, and taking money out of the pockets of consumers when we have to pass on the cost of the uninsured. Money is being spent to duplicate services and records. Large areas in rural America have no service.

This is the best health care system in the world?

Health care is the #1 reason why American commerce cannot compete with other countries in the 21st century...not wages, not taxes, not environmental factors.

We can do better than this. Those who don't want to try are profiting from the inefficiency.

Ignoring problems just make them worse.


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SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 03:17 PM

Take 18 minutes of your precious time, trollie, and watch this! Today is the anniversary.

The Reverand Dr. Martin Luther King, "I Have A Dream..."

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 03:20 PM

I'm all for universal healthcare. Everybody is.. It's just that a large group of us are terrified of the government running it. Terrified that this bureaucracy will burn thru billions of dollars to create a worse system.
Posted by BrotherJonathan on August 28, 2008 at 02:49 PM


brother jon, Medicare right now is run by the government, and runs pretty good, except for the government trying to cheat the Doctors out of a fair wage.

But I look at the choices given to US Government employees (and my daughter worked for the Dept. of Commerce, so I saw them), and I know this. If we model our Medicare and our Universal Health plans after what we give US employees, we would have excellent plans. The law of large numbers would keep costs down. Employers #2 largest expense right now is Health care costs, so let them subsidize the plans as they will be getting to save a lot of money if the government takes it over.

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 03:31 PM

Posted by PamB on August 28, 2008 at 10:44 AM

Pam,

I'm going to have one of my sons make a banner with that slogan for our block party in two weeks...only my banner would say McSame. It will look great on my front lawn right along with my Obama/Biden and Jay Nixon yard signs.

The neighborhood watch folks are blocking off the street and setting up the picnic tables right in front of our house. Obama Central?

I suppose I could also run set up a dunking booth letting the kids take turns wearing a Bush mask and giving folks a Biden ball to knock Spunky down. It would be interesting to see how many of my mostly Republican neighbors are now ready to participate?

Well, I guess that would be rubbing it in. The yard signs alone are going to make some of them fume.

O.K. who has that grease can recipe for how to stump the yard sign thieves? Nobody tampered with my McCaskill sign in 2006, so I've forgotten what works best.

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SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 03:35 PM

look at this electoral map, and if you live in ome of these battleground states, let's help you turn it firmly blue.

http://news.yahoo.com/election/2008/dashboard;_ylt=AilNBqGxH6usCkiNdI1QBDtsnwcF

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 03:37 PM

It's interesting how the week before the GOP convention that the Labor Department is coming up with an upbeat employment number when....

The headline in my hometown newspaper today read:

Jobless rate hits 16-year high

7.2 % in July

Infection in housing and financial services spreads across the economy.

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SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 03:47 PM

Speaking of bumper stickers, this is from the QT Column in today's Sun-Times:

Stick it to 'em

Tom Nee, an Oak Lawn reader, wants you to know that the motto of the bumper-sticker people in Denver this week is, "If it ain't Barack, don't affix it."

Words to snooze by

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 03:59 PM

Posted by PamB on August 28, 2008 at 02:46 PM

I suggest that McCain run with Hurricane Gustav. They are both full of hot air and would create a disaster for the nation.

McCain probably thinks the hurricane is one of Putin's secret weapons and will use it as an excuse to counter-invade Delaware...oh, do you think he could mean Iran?

I can almost hear McCain thinking aloud now, "It's so hard, my dear friends, to tell if those working class people in Biden's state are Shiites, Sunni, or Catholics. And since Pat Robertson thinks they are all evil, who cares? That goes for the ones living in Pennsylvania and Ohio who only own one home."

Out of touch and touched in the head. Vote for John McCain.

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SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 04:03 PM

Nobody tampered with my McCaskill sign in 2006, so I've forgotten what works best.

Posted by SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 03:35 PM


Sandy in this blue town and state, I do not worry about my signs being taken, but follow what I use to do with my huge Halloween punkins!

stick needles all over it, especially where you think they will try and pick it up! Never lost a pumpkin in our lives. :)


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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 04:17 PM

John McCain owes America a thorough test for Alzheimer's and cognitive impairment long before Election Day.

Posted by chassie on August 28, 2008 at 02:51 PM

McCain wouldn't even do a witness test for Rich Warren's religious forum. There is no way the GOP would let him near a mental health professional.

Just the fact that he ranked the fourth from the bottom of his Naval Academy class and crashed five Navy jets tells me he's not fit to serve as Commander-in-Chief.

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SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 04:18 PM

E-Mail from Pammy


to Sandy and all asshat commies

ref: blog


Post gibberish, we need more gibberish, hurry, hurry, hurry.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 28, 2008 at 04:21 PM

Rail advocates see the right ticket with Biden
(The following story by Megan Scully appeared on the National Journal website on August 27.)

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Advocates of passenger rail will likely have little trouble getting on board with the No. 2 on the Democratic ticket.

It is no secret that Democratic Sen. Joseph Biden is one of Amtrak's most frequent riders, using the train system for his daily commute from Wilmington, Del., to his office on Capitol Hill.

Indeed, Biden, whose son Hunter also happens to be vice chairman of Amtrak's board, made a surprise appearance at the Wilmington train station on Monday, glad-handing with and accepting congratulations from familiar faces.

But the Delaware senator who would be vice president has also been an advocate for Amtrak during his tenure in the Senate -- a position that could benefit the subsidized train service should Democrats win the White House.

Most recently, Biden was among the first senators to co-sponsor the Passenger Rail Investment and Improvement Act of 2007, which authorizes $11.4 billion for Amtrak over the next six years.

The measure easily passed the Senate in October and a similar bill was approved by the House this summer. The legislation is now tied up in House-Senate conference negotiations.

"As someone who rides the train every day, Sen. Biden has always been a champion for passenger rail and has been a key supporter of our bipartisan Amtrak bill," Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., chairman of the Senate Commerce Surface Transportation Subcommittee, said in a statement.

Amtrak, which relies heavily on the largesse of lawmakers, was somewhat restrained in its reaction to Biden's selection. But a spokesman acknowledged that, if Democrats win in November, the train service could have a friend in the White House.

"Senator Biden is a longtime enthusiastic supporter of Amtrak and a regular passenger, riding frequently between his home in Delaware and his office in Washington," said Cliff Black. "We would expect Senator Biden to continue his support if elected vice president."

Biden's track record on Amtrak differs markedly from that of the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, who has railed against subsidies for Amtrak.

"McCain has consistently not been a supporter of Amtrak," said David Johnson, deputy director of the National Association of Railroad Passengers. "His voting record in the Senate speaks for that."

While one could assume his stance on Amtrak would follow McCain to the White House if elected, "a change of heart is always possible," Johnson said hopefully.

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 04:21 PM

E-Mail from Pammy


to Sandy and all asshat commies

ref: blog


Post gibberish, we need more gibberish, hurry, hurry, hurry.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 28, 2008 at 04:22 PM

Isn't it amazing, that Bush got the Oil buddies to start lowering prices a little to try and stimulate votes for McCain and Republicans!

I am supposed to jump with joy, and think warm and fuzzy about Republicans, because my car took only $75.80 worth of gasoline @$3.79, instead of the $85.80 it was taking at $4.29! Big freaken deal!! Do they think they will turn any heads with that one?

What we need are some ads which merely show scenes of:

Abu Grahib,
Katrina Scenes
US troops flag draped coffins.
Oil pumps at $4.00
grocery store with price of milk, cereal,
cheese, at inflated prices now.

smog over cities especially during commuter times

And have the last scene asking "Do you want 4 more years of this"! If not, vote for Barack Obama!!"

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 04:26 PM

hello

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dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 04:27 PM

Just the fact that he ranked the fourth from the bottom of his Naval Academy class and crashed five Navy jets tells me he's not fit to serve as Commander-in-Chief.

Posted by SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 04:18 PM


Sandy wasn't that out of 899 classmates? Or was it 897> Oh well either way he was what either 895th or 893rd. Just a old dumbass. Kinka like dumb or dumber, soon to be senile. I think hes well on his way like Raygun was in his last 3 years. of his presidency. Any asshole that votes againist his own bill, is a total idiot.

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 04:30 PM

dan cactass so the truth to you giberish and lie is not giberish

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dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 04:30 PM

If you have never signed up for the DNC Democracy Bonds which finance the 50 State Strategy, then please know it has worked, and they need your help!!

Democrats' New Drive in Red States

by: Alexandra Marks, The Christian Science Monitor (left in for simple minds who cannot fathom how Truthout works)


The "50-state strategy" - investing resources in every state - has begun to pay off for Democrats. Previously solid Republican states like Virginia, North Dakota, Colorado and Montana are within reach for Democrats in the 2008 elections.

Colorado, Virginia, New Mexico, and other states are now in play.

Denver - Four years ago, the Democratic Party in Mississippi was struggling to keep its doors open. Today, party leaders here at the Democratic National Convention in Denver are seriously considering turning the onetime red state blue come November.

http://www.truthout.org/article/democrats-new-drive-red-states

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 04:30 PM

Tonight Sandy,

You can pray to Cesar Obama, your new God, as he comes out of his temple. Pray for no more hurricanes nad he will part the Gulf of Mexico, and the people will see it is good.

hahahahahahahahahahah.....silly asshats.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 28, 2008 at 04:35 PM

Dusty 2006 try to ignore, numbsy Cactus, and the Trolls, no one here takes them seriously!

Btw, how are things in Minnesota, i have a daughter that lives in the twin cities. The st.cloud area.

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 04:35 PM

hi pam

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dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 04:36 PM

could this be the beginning of the "bump"...

PRINCETON, NJ -- Democratic candidate Barack Obama has gained ground in the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking average from Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, and now leads Republican John McCain among registered voters by a 48% to 42% margin.

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gregg on August 28, 2008 at 04:36 PM

it nice here and sunny chassie

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dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 04:37 PM

Maybe you can all wear togas tonight to show your support.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 28, 2008 at 04:38 PM

chassie why cant we get rid of this silly asshat

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dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 04:41 PM

For the two weeks Greggy and pammy have said the polls do not matter.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 28, 2008 at 04:41 PM

it nice here and sunny chassie

Posted by dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 04:37 PM

Well Dusty2006, i guess old troll Sally, has been lying to us, maybe a little global warming, what do you think? Good that your having a beauiful day.

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 04:43 PM

chassie why cant we get rid of this silly asshat

Posted by dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 04:41 PM

You answered your own question dusty2006, cuz he's a pea brain, numbsy ass-hat.

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 04:45 PM

Posted by PamB on August 28, 2008 at 04:17 PM

Somebody used to have a recipe for a concoction made of bacon grease/lard and some kind of skunk oil extract that you could rub on the base of the sign where they pull them out of the ground. I'd like the GOP dirty tricksters to get a "lasting" impression from their work.

I had an interesting conversation with a Republican friend today. After lamenting how expensive it's gotten to travel to Europe, she pipes up and says she just can't vote for Obama.

I asked her how could she afford to vote for McCain...when he's going to continue Bush's policies...the ones that are making it too expensive for her to visit Europe next year?

Then she says, "I guess the Blacks are all going to be get what they want when Obama's in the White House." So I say to her, "You do realize that Obama is bi-racial? Do you think Whites will get what they want when he's elected?"

She counters (get this) "I hear that he's Indian, too." An Indian Muslim no doubt?

She inherited all this money from her grandparents and is still having to watch her expenses but somehow she just can't vote anything but her ingrained prejudices? Besides being an unbelievably dumb blonde, she's the sweetest person in the world.

We parted with her thinking about not voting at all this time. I told her that her money invested in FDIC-insured banks might just depend on that.

The more money women inherit, the less reason they have to think for themselves. Is it any wonder that Cindy ended up making such a bad decision?

bbl.

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SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 04:45 PM

Yes, because we all know that Greek Revival columns have never been used at a convention before.

NEVER

Ever

EVAH!!!

Is that all you trolls have? HAHAHAHA!

What a collection of idiots and losers.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 04:47 PM

Maybe you can all wear togas tonight to show your support.

Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 28, 2008 at 04:38 PM

Ready to join our party? Hurricane Gustav got you worried about whether the GOP would be there for you?

I thought you loved the Greek columns that the RNC used to decorate Reagan and Spunky's convention stage appearances. Getting a little forgetful there, Dan?

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SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 04:50 PM

sally idiot

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dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 04:50 PM

Dusty, these trolls live in there own little corner of crazy, in the world with nothing else to do but sling mud, and stir the crapo.

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 04:51 PM

rash limpballs really pisses me off. He was going on and on about Ayers and Obama and how Obama knew a terrorist.

This entire f***ing bush administration are war criminals, terrorists, pedophiles, anti family values, liars and felons.

What part of their colossal criminal activities don't they know they are responsible for.

I am sick of these bastards blaming "liberals" for all the crimes they have committed.

THIS SHIT WILL CEASE NOW!

If they keep it up, the younger generation in this country will rise up and take back our government.

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Johne on August 28, 2008 at 04:52 PM

why dont the trolls get a life like rest of uss chassie

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dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 04:53 PM

Yes DopeyDoodle,

I agree the libs that put on the show are a collection of idiots and losers, much like yourself, but I think having Obama walk through a cloud of green smoke as he appears is going too far.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 28, 2008 at 04:55 PM

rash limpballs really pisses me off.

Johne limpballs, pisses 76 percent of the people off, with exception of the pea brains like are resident trolls.

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 04:55 PM

Just the fact that he ranked the fourth from the bottom of his Naval Academy class and crashed five Navy jets tells me he's not fit to serve as Commander-in-Chief.

Posted by SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 04:18 PM


Not just you, Sandy. The Vietnam Vets against McCain site agree.

With his low grades finish in the class, he should never have been given the right to fly a plane, but because of his father, he got the honor! He got his injuries jumping out of his shot down plane, not from any torture.

The fact that his nickname was "Songbird" in Vietnam prison, shows exactly what kind of Hero he was. And he was offered early release because he told them everything he knew. He likes to say it was because of his father that they asked him if he wanted to be Early released, but Let's face it---The enemy has the son of an American Officer, and out of courtesy they ask him if he would like to be excused??????
WTF does he take us for?

Now if that were reversed, and it was Obama who had been a POW, and he had been nicknamed Songbird, you can bet every single Delegate at the Convention would be wearing a bird on their shoulders! And wearing a purple band aid on their arm!

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 04:57 PM

Johne, neither the Chicago Tribune nor the Chicago Sun-Times can find any "smoking gun" in those files.

Winger Dreams Crushed

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 04:58 PM

Some village is missing a bunch of criminal idiots. Their names are bush, cheney, rice, mcbush, rove, limpballs, hannity, coldsore, cunningham and hundreds of others in high places.

Let's give them a bus ticket to the nearest assylum for the criminally arrogant bastards.

Last night we were given a blessing. Our local radio station took off savage. They had been playing reruns. They played instead the Democratic Convention without comment.

I tuned to the El Paso clear channel and savage was on saying that a lot of his sponsors have pulled the plug.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Let's pull the plug on Fox, hannity, limpballs, coldsore, cunningham, etal.

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Johne on August 28, 2008 at 04:59 PM

Dan_A_Cactus you and your ilk are a collection of idiots and losers

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dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 04:59 PM

Ready to join our party? Hurricane Gustav got you worried about whether the
Posted by SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 04:50 PM

You can hope a lot of people die then blame president Bush for making the hurricane,huh Sandy, party on.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 28, 2008 at 04:59 PM

This ought to be interesting........


Amnesty International brings Gitmo to St. Paul.

“Guantanamo Bay is coming to St. Paul,” courtesy of Amnesty International. The human rights group is bringing their “live-size model of a maximum security Guantanamo Bay cell” to the Twin Cities. Visitors will be encouraged to experience the cell and push the Bush administration to shut down Guantanamo. Some details about the exhibit:

The cell is a replica of a Camp 5 cell. It brings to life the harsh realities of illegal detention to concerned citizens and highlights the human rights violations that Guantanamo symbolizes. The cell includes a steel toilet, florescent lights and a sliding metal door. Detainees reported being held in isolation in similar cells for as long as 23 hours.


http://thinkprogress.org/


(now you KNOW MN Thomass will be out there trying to fight with protestors. Would LOVE to catch a picture of him being Tased, and frog marched off to the Fenced in prison !)

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 05:01 PM

Dan_A_Cactus** why do you blame liberals for it

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dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 05:01 PM

Dan_A_Cactus you and your ilk are a collection of idiots and losers

Posted by dusty2006

Just like Pammy the idiot would say......hmmmm

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 28, 2008 at 05:02 PM


good interview with Schumer!

SCHUMER: The economy is in worse shape than the numbers show. When you look at the macro numbers, you fail to look at where all the positives have gone, which is the top 1 or 5 percent. […]

Between 2001 and and 2007 — this was before the recession — incomes went down $1,000 for the average family. But buying power went down $9,000, if you include college tuition for families with tuition. So the average family was living at a level of $47,000 in 2001, and is living at a level of $38,000 in 2007. It’s worse now, obviously. So for the average middle-class person, it’s not just, “Oh, things aren’t great.” Things are tough.

"I just saw Karl Rove outside. This is what he doesn’t get. He’s busy talking about I don’t know — the marble columns in Invesco [Field]. When people are feeling pretty good about things, they like that kind of stuff: “Oh that’s fun; Barack Obama’s an emperor.” When people are hurting, it doesn’t work.

Schumer was referring to conservative outrage over the fact that Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) will be delivering his acceptance speech in Denver before an “elaborate columned stage resembling a miniature Greek temple.” As ThinkProgress reported, these attacks are silly, since Republicans have used similar backdrops for their events.

According to recent polls, most Americans point to the economy as the top issue they’re concerned about. Obama’s backdrop doesn’t appear on the list of concerns.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/28/schumer-rove-2/#comments

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 05:03 PM

Now if you had any doubts that Senility has struck McSame, read this one!!!!

"Carney and Scherer noted to McCain that the Iraqi government is calling for a deadline for U.S. troops to withdraw from Iraq even though McCain’s previously stated definition of “victory” — “a peaceful, stable, prosperous democratic state” — has not been achieved. The Arizona senator dismissed their characterization of the situation, saying that Iraq is “a peaceful and stable country now”:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/28/mccain-iraq-peaceful/#comments

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 05:05 PM

why dont the trolls get a life like rest of uss chassie

Posted by dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 04:53 PM

Cuz there to dam stupid come to mind dusty!

Dan_A_Cactus you and your ilk are a collection of idiots and losers

Posted by dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 04:59 PM

Very good Dusty!

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 05:08 PM

The wingnuts are having a fit over those columns because it reminds them too much of a COURT HOUSE!

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 05:09 PM

E-Mail from Pammy

to Sandy and all asshat commies

ref: blog


Post gibberish, we need more gibberish, hurry, hurry, hurry.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 28, 2008 at 05:09 PM

Dan_A_Cactus**no i ment you and sally mc turd and any the other trool in here not pam you idiot

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dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 05:11 PM

dan why dont stop Posting gibberish in here your self

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dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 05:14 PM

My Friends, McNuts, is going to name his VP Commie ass-hat tonight, and try to steal the show. (LOL) I don't give a shit who the ass hat is, he or she will be another Neo Con loser.

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 05:15 PM

I wonder if Al the scamster Gore will leave five SUV's idling out front, while he is speaking tonight like he did at his last speech?

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 28, 2008 at 05:17 PM

why dont the trolls get a life like rest of uss chassie

Posted by dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 04:53 PM


uss chassie?

Never heard of that ship Duhsty, is it big fat and stupid looking?

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 28, 2008 at 05:24 PM

Good Dems, can you explain to me how on this God's Green Earth, can Louisiana polls be 16 points to the advantage of McNuts, after what the Repos done to them during hurricane Katrina. Take about idiots. I know its the south, but good god!!

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 05:25 PM

Posted by chassie on August 28, 2008 at 05:25 PM


Maybe because of the DEMOCRATS who were running the show and stealing the money.


Duhhh...

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 28, 2008 at 05:33 PM

Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 28, 2008 at 05:33 PM

I ask the question to good Dems. not losers like your self.

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 05:37 PM

Good Dems, can you explain to me how on this God's Green Earth, can Louisiana polls be 16 points to the advantage of McNuts, after what the Repos done to them during hurricane Katrina. Take about idiots. I know its the south, but good god!!

Posted by chassie on August 28, 2008 at 05:25 PM

Well there are several reasons for that. Firstly they properly blamed the Governor and got rid of her for a Conservative Republican. Except for the ill informed citizens of New Orleans who owe every aspect of their lives to the Federal Government. Secondly, most of the Democrats resettled in other areas after the flood. And thirdly they think Obama is an asswipe.

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Sally-* on August 28, 2008 at 05:39 PM

Martin Luther King was a Republican DoPeyDoodle.

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Sally-* on August 28, 2008 at 05:41 PM

Dateline: Snohomish County, Washington, republican party;

Just one more indication of how the republican party trivializes this presidential campaign and depends on its lunatic fringe for guidance, comes one of the most tasteless acts yet in this campaign; distributing fake (of course) $3 bills with Obama'a photo, in some type of middle eastern turban.

This is outright, outrageous, racism, something that most Americans would find unbearably tasteless. I want to see a photo of McShame handing these things out at his party's convention, this is his campaign, he owns it for good and bad, and UGLY. To think that this type of tactic appeals to the republican base says a lot about the people they choose for leaders and how they'd rather laugh off confrontations than deal with them in an adult, forthright manner. Got a problem with a foreign leader, just put his picture on a phony bill with a funny hat, ha, ha, ha!

The infantile idiots that work for the republican campaign should be ashamed of themselves, I'd be wearing a burka if I were them.

If you've got time on your hands, e-mail the republican national committee and/or the Snohomish, Washington republican party to voice your response. And a kicker; one of their candidates for congress is a man named Ishmael!

153
CalDemo on August 28, 2008 at 05:44 PM

Hi Sally

Shut up greggy


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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 28, 2008 at 05:45 PM

Conservative Republican Posted by Sally-* on August 28, 2008 at 05:39 PM

Thanks for the laugh of the day you ass hats don't know the meaning of the word. I'm now choking on my supper, laughing my arse off.

Spiralling debt,out of control, and you got the nerve to even say a conservative Repo. Laugh Laugh. What a bunch of Numbsy's you all are.

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 05:49 PM

Barack Obama Admits He's Too Inexperienced to Lead

Senator Joe Biden, Senator Hillary Clinton, Former Impeached President Bill Clinton, Senator Dodd and Senator Obama all agree that Barack Obama is too inexperienced to lead.

The new McCain ad is awesome.
It mixes scenes from the Georgian War with words on Obama.

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Sally-* on August 28, 2008 at 05:50 PM

Howdy Cactus!

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Sally-* on August 28, 2008 at 05:51 PM

Obamunists Attack Radio Station for Shining Light on Bill Ayers

Another little foretaste of what an Obama victory would mean for freedom of speech:

Sen. Barack Obama's campaign organized its supporters Wednesday night to confront Tribune-owned WGN-AM in Chicago for having a critic of the Illinois Democrat on its air.

"WGN radio is giving right-wing hatchet man Stanley Kurtz a forum to air his baseless, fear-mongering terrorist smears," Obama's campaign wrote in an e-mail to supporters. "He's currently scheduled to spend a solid two-hour block from 9:00 to 11:00 p.m. pushing lies, distortions, and manipulations about Barack and University of Illinois professor William Ayers."

Kurtz, a conservative writer, recently wrote an article for the National Review that looked at Obama's ties to Ayers, a former 1960s radical who later emerged as a school reform advocate in Chicago. […]

Obama's campaign has launched similar offensives against stations that have run campaign ads that it did not like.

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Sally-* on August 28, 2008 at 05:53 PM

I'm now choking on my supper
Posted by chassie

Oh please, keep trying, choke harder.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 28, 2008 at 05:54 PM

John McCain Speaks Directly to Barack Obama
Posted by Kim Priestap
Published: August 28, 2008 - 5:20 PM

I read earlier today at Drudge that McCain was going to run an ad tonight while Obama made his historic speech in which he spoke directly to Obama. It's on McCain's YouTube channel now and it's simply called Convention Night.

Classy.

An Obama spokesman was taken by surprise at McCain's congratulations and says they'll follow suit next week with their own ad congratulating McCain on winning his party's nomination. (Hat tip: Hot Air)

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Sally-* on August 28, 2008 at 06:00 PM

Pammy and DuHsty sure left fast. Something going on with them two or that one.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 28, 2008 at 06:00 PM

The 2nd Quarter Economic Numbers Undercut Democrats' Talking Points on the Economy
Posted by Kim Priestap
Published: August 28, 2008 - 12:15 PM

The Democrats have been talking about how awful the economy is, but the revised 2nd quarter economic numbers released today show the economy grew 3.3% from April - June. An inconvenient truth for the Democrats in Denver who have been celebrating a soft economy that they believed worked to their benefit. From the AP:

The economy shifted to a higher gear in the spring, growing at its fastest pace in nearly a year as foreign buyers snapped up U.S. exports and tax rebates spurred shoppers at home.

The Commerce Department reported Thursday that gross domestic product, or GDP, increased at a 3.3 percent annual rate in the April-June quarter. The revised reading was much better than the government's initial estimate of a 1.9 percent pace and exceeded economists' expectations for a 2.7 percent growth rate.

Factual economic numbers aside, there will always be some Americans who will struggle no matter how strong the economy and how low the unemployment rate, so we can count on the Democrats to point the spot light on these sorry folk only as long as a Republican is in the White House. However, when a Democrat wins the presidency someday, even if it's not for another generation, you'll be guaranteed that those same struggling Americans will cease to exist, at least as far as our Democrat friends go

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Sally-* on August 28, 2008 at 06:01 PM

Long time Detroit Democrat now supports McCain
Posted by Kim Priestap
Published: August 27, 2008 - 11:01 PM

She's going against the strong tide of Obama support in Detroit because she experienced herself how Republicans are far more pro-business than the Democrats. From the Freep:

As a woman of color, Pat Browne of Detroit is excited that an African American is a true contender for president.

That doesn't mean she's going to vote for Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill. A longtime Democrat, Browne, 57, of Detroit has had it with the Democratic Party and pledged her support to Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain of Arizona. She even had a house party for the campaign on the opening night of the Democratic National Convention.

"My next-door neighbor is a labor lawyer, and she asked me how in the world I could support McCain," she said.

Browne cited her experience as a small-businesswoman in Michigan as the reason for leaving the party. She owns Browne & Browne Office Products and can't get business with the State of Michigan because, she said, big stores headquartered out of state get all the business.

"I really needed someone to look at me and say this is an outrage. And the Republican Party has responded, and I haven't found that in any other Democratic venues," Browne said.

This doesn't surprise me at all. For all the blathering that Democrats do about looking out for the little guy, when it comes to delivering, they fall short. Good for Pat. It's got to be so hard for her to not only support a Republican for president, but to do so when the Democratic candidate is an African American.

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Sally-* on August 28, 2008 at 06:03 PM

Honk Honk Honk, NUBSY's keep on posting more gibberish, hurry hurry hurry.

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 06:04 PM

by Bruce Alpert, The Times-Picayune Wednesday August 27, 2008, 10:32 AM


DENVER -- Rep. William Jefferson, D-New Orleans, facing a tough primary challenge next Saturday while under federal indictment, arrived this morning at the Democratic National Convention.

"I wouldn't have missed this unless I physically couldn't do it," Jefferson said.

The congressman said he is worried about Hurricane Gustav and is prepared to return to New Orleans as early as Thursday morning, but wanted to be able to cast a vote for Barack Obama during tonight's roll-call of the states.
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He has to get back and buy a new freezer, in case new money comes rolling in, called Gustav.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 28, 2008 at 06:16 PM

Sally did you know that your Hero, Mr. Gore is going to speak tonight, enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 06:21 PM

$427 million. That’s what the oil and coal industries spent during the first half of 2008 on lobbying and advertising. They’re protecting their interests – and hurting ours. http://www.wecansolveit.org/content/pages/371/

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johnyfaster on August 28, 2008 at 06:27 PM

Friends: Abramoff a changed man, deserves leniency By MATT APUZZO, Associated Press Writer
Thu Aug 28, 12:58 PM ET

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080828/ap_on_go_ot/abramoff_prison;_ylt=AtHSixHBciereq08CCOa7JWyFz4D

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johnyfaster on August 28, 2008 at 06:31 PM

Posted by Sally-* on August 28, 2008 at 06:01 PM
And which economist wrote this piece? None are named!!! What responsible publication provided this? None are named!!! No sources aside from one lonely little number from the commerce department - which isn't even dated? None are named!!! And you would actually post this anywhere and try to pass it off as fact? How stupid are you? As you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything. What a fool you are!!! Peddle your trash elsewhere - people here are way too smart for the likes of you!

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marymac_memphis on August 28, 2008 at 06:31 PM

Posted by johnyfaster on August 28, 2008 at 06:31 PM

Abramoff Issue's Fallout May Extend Beyond the GOP

By Jeffrey H. Birnbaum and Derek Willis
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, June 3, 2005; Page A01

Lobbyist Jack Abramoff and an associate famously collected $82 million in lobbying and public relations fees from six Indian tribes and devoted a lot of their time to trying to persuade Republican lawmakers to act on their clients' behalf.

But Abramoff didn't work just with Republicans. He oversaw a team of two dozen lobbyists at the law firm Greenberg Traurig that included many Democrats. Moreover, the campaign contributions that Abramoff directed from the tribes went to Democratic as well as Republican legislators.

Among the biggest beneficiaries were Capitol Hill's most powerful Democrats, including Thomas A. Daschle (S.D.) and Harry M. Reid (Nev.), the top two Senate Democrats at the time, Richard A. Gephardt (Mo.), then-leader of the House Democrats, and the two lawmakers in charge of raising funds for their Democratic colleagues in both chambers, according to a Washington Post study. Reid succeeded Daschle as Democratic leader after Daschle lost his Senate seat last November.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 28, 2008 at 07:04 PM

Well time to get back to the DNC comedy show, you can go back to whining and posting gibberish.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 28, 2008 at 07:09 PM

Browne cited her experience as a small-businesswoman in Michigan as the reason for leaving the party. She owns Browne & Browne Office Products and can't get business with the State of Michigan because, she said, big stores headquartered out of state get all the business.

And she thinks her little Mom and Pop store, where they charge twice as much as the Staples and Office Maxs , should be able to rape the State Government as well as those few unsuspecting people who wander in there! And then they wonder why!!!


And if this dumshit thinks that the Republicans will take care of small business, she in in for a BIG shockeroo.! The ones they give Corporate welfare to are the BIG DONORS ! Another easily manipulated mind!

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 07:10 PM

In case you had any questions about Keating Five, here it is all spelled out for you. McCain escaped Prison this time around. Too bad!

What is the Keating Five?


For anyone not aware of the Keating Five, here’s a very simple summary:

Charles Keating owned a savings and loan in California. He was illegally using the money of his bank’s customers to give loans to himself and friends that they didn’t have to repay, and to speculate on risky real estate investments, which was strictly forbidden by U.S. law (the latter was one cause of the Great Depression).

When the feds found out what was going on and launched an investigation into Keating and his company, Keating called five U.S. Senators whom he had wined, dined, and lavished with hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign donations and personal gifts for years.

Keating asked the five Senators to tell the feds to bug off, and the five Senators, later known as the Keating Five, obliged, meeting with federal investigators twice and pressuring them to stop investigating Keating’s crimes. They bought Keating some time, but the feds didn’t give up and eventually Keating was nailed. The reason the feds were so persistent was because Keating wasn’t playing with mere chump change. Keating blew $3.4 billion through illegal personal loans and bad investments, and the FDIC eventually had to reimburse Keating’s customers who had been ripped off. (The FDIC is a part of the federal government funded by taxpayers dollars, so when Keating stole from his customers you and I were the ones who paid for it.) (funny, the penny pinching, voting with their wallets Repugs don't seem to mind paying for Republican's crimes, but children with no food they do!)

John McCain then went back to the drawing board and re-invented himself as “the Straight-Talk Express” and the media gobbled it up. “Tax-Evading-Criminal” doesn’t sound as catchy as “Straight-Shooting-War-Hero”.

Ever since the scandal, when McCain lies today, it’s never questioned, because he’s a “straight talker”. The man has more skeletons in his closet than any politician in history. The Keating Five is just one bone.

There are two fantastic articles about the Keating Five we highly recommend reading.

One is from 1989, written by the Phoenix New Times, called McCain: The Most Reprehensible of the Keating Five. That article does a good job of capturing the anger at the time at John McCain and the other corrupt Senators. It took an incredible spin job for McCain to have survived the scandal.

The other article is from Slate.com, written in 2000 and titled, Is John McCain A Crook?


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20634.htm


I sure hope Obama gets in some questions about this, during the Debates!!

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 07:15 PM

hey, remember the article above I posted where McCain says that Iraq is now a peaceful and quiet place to live, and the surge is a Victory!!? all in today's news:


Baghdad car bombs kill nine:
A restaurant worker said the blast went off "right next to civilian pedestrians", but added he did not know whether the explosion was caused by a stationary or moving vehicle.
http://itn.co.uk/news/1f8353a710862ddfc04428833a7d0258.html

===

At least 6 killed in another bloody day of US occupation:

Gunmen killed an army colonel and his wife in a drive-by shooting in the al-Adil district in western Baghdad, police said.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/ANS846990.htm


Two U.S. occupation force soldiers killed in Iraq:

Two U.S. soldiers were killed in two separate attacks in the Iraqi capital of Baghdad, the U.S. military said on Thursday.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-08/28/content_9731393.htm

====
Soldiers 'executed Iraqis on riverbank':

THREE US soldiers killed four handcuffed and blindfolded Iraqi prisoners with pistol shots on the bank of a Baghdad canal last year, according to a New York Times report.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24253867-401,00.html

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 07:17 PM

Gathered by the non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics, the following officeholders and candidates have received political donations from Abramoff since 2000:
Tom DeLay (R-Texas). John Ashcroft (R-Mo.). Frank A. LoBiondo (R-NJ). Eric Cantor (R-Va.). Arlen Specter (R-Pa.). John Ensign (R-Nev.). Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.). Charles H. Taylor (R-NC). Chris Cannon (R-Utah). Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa). Mark Foley (R-Fla.). Richard Pombo (R-Calif.). Christopher S. "Kit" Bond (R-Mo.). Curt Weldon (R-Pa.). Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.). Doug Ose (R-Calif.). Ernest J. Istook (R-Okla.). George R. Nethercutt Jr. (R-Wash.). Jim Bunning (R-Ky.). Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.). Tom Feeney (R-Fla.). Dan Burton (R-Ind.). Eric Cantor (R-Va.). Suzanne Terrell (R-La.). Rob Simmons (R-Conn.). Charles W. "Chip" Pickering Jr. (R-Miss.). Connie Morella (R-Md.). Gordon H. Smith (R-Ore.). James M. Inhofe (R-Okla.). James M. Talent (R-Mo.). John T. Doolittle (R-Calif.). John Thune (R-SD). Tim Hutchinson (R-Ark.). Bob Smith (R-Fla.). Bob Ney (R-Ohio). CL. "Butch" Otter (R-Idaho). Carolyn W. Grant (R-NC). Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.). Elizabeth Dole (R-NC). Heather Wilson (R-NM). J. Randy Forbes (R-Va.). Jack Kingston (R-Ga.). James V. Hansen (R-Utah). John Cornyn (R-Texas). Kimo Kaloi (R-Hawaii). Marilyn Musgrave (R-Colo.). Mike Ferguson (R-NJ). Mike Simpson (R-Idaho). Ralph Regula (R-Ohio). Ric Keller (R-Fla.). Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.). Ted Stevens (R-Alaska). Thad Cochran (R-Miss.). Dave Camp (R-Mich.). Phil Gingrey (R-Ga.). Tom Young (R-Ala.). Bill Janklow (R-SD). Craig Thomas (R-Wyo.). Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.). William L. Gormley (R-NJ). Bill McCollum (R-Fla.). Bill Redmond (R-NM). Bob Riley (R-Ala.). Claude B. Hutchison Jr. (R-Calif.). Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.). Francis E. Flotron (R-Mo.). George Allen (R-Va.). Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.). Walter B. Jones Jr. (R-NC). Paul Ryan (R-Wis.). Bob Smith (R-Fla.). Joe Pitts (R-PA). Charles H. Taylor (R-NC). Bob Ehrlich (R-Md.). Charles R. Gerow (R-Pa.). Ed Royce (R-Calif.). Elia Vincent Pirozzi (R-Calif.). Jerry Weller (R-Ill.). Mark Emerson (R-Utah). Tom Davis (R-Va.). Van Hilleary (R-Tenn.).
Also:
Americans for a Republican Majority, Leadership PAC of Tom DeLay (R-Texas). Republican Majority Fund, Leadership PAC of Don Nickles (R-Okla.). Keep Our Majority PAC, Leadership PAC of Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.). Leadership PAC, Leadership PAC of Michael G. Oxley (R-Ohio). Rely on Your Beliefs, Leadership PAC of Roy Blunt (R-Mo.). Friends of the Big Sky, Leadership PAC of Conrad Burns (R-Mont.). Senate Victory Fund, Leadership PAC of Thad Cochran (R-Miss.). American Liberty PAC, Leadership PAC of Bob Ney (R-Ohio). Battle Born PAC, Leadership PAC of John Ensign (R-Nev.). Fund for a Free Market America, Leadership PAC of Phil Crane (R-Ill.). Team PAC, Leadership PAC of J.D. Hayworth (R-Ariz.). The Republican Party of New Jersey.
Also: George W. Bush (R).
Susan Ralston stepped down from her post as a special assistant to President Bush.
A congressional report showed she had extensive contacts with Abramoff and had accepted tickets to sporting events and concerts from him. More than 300 members of the 109th Congress received campaign contributions from a client of Jack Abramoff while he was their lobbyist—81 Senators and 227 members of the House of Representatives, the Center found. On average, each recipient got about $16,000.

President Bush received nearly $50,000 from Abramoff’s clients. Top congressional recipients included a who’s who of the Republican leadership in Congress. Prominent names include House Speaker Dennis Hastert of Illinois ($68,300 in contributions), House Republican Conference Secretary John Doolittle of California ($56,250) and Montana Sen. Conrad Burns ($52,340). Also on the list is former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay of Texas ($44,000), who once employed convicted Abramoff associates Tony Rudy and Michael Scanlon on Capitol Hill. DeLay’s successor, Rep. John Boehner of Ohio, received $30,500.

Unlike Abramoff himself, who along with his wife contributed $225,000 of their personal money to Republicans only, his clients were less partisan in their political contributions. While some gave almost exclusively to one party, on average they gave 73 percent of their money to Republicans and the remainder to Democrats.

http://www.capitaleye.org/inside.asp?ID=210

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johnyfaster on August 28, 2008 at 07:20 PM


BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. GASP, I LOVE IT!!!!!!!


Cindy McCain's Half-Sister: I'm Voting For Obama

Cindy McCain's half-sister tells Us Magazine that she won't help put her famous sibling in the White House:

"I'm not voting for McCain," Kathleen Hensley Portalski tells Us. "I have a different political standpoint.

"I'm voting for Obama," the Phoenix resident says. "I think his proposals to improve the country are more positive and I'm not a big war believer."

...

Portalski's son Nathan, an aerospace machinist, is also backing Obama.

"I wouldn't vote for John McCain if he was a Democrat," he tells Us. "I would not vote at all before I'd vote for him.

"I question whether Cindy is someone I'd want to see in the White House as first lady," he adds.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/28/cindy-mccains-half-sister_n_122134.html

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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 07:22 PM

Posted by PamB on August 28, 2008 at 10:27 AM (ps, I will put my spaghetti sauce up against your's and Greg's anyday !)

I accept the challenge!!! Don't forget DPD and Lizzy. Now we just need to work out the logistics.

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 07:23 PM

dan a c is big fat and stupid looking?

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dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 07:35 PM


Well time to get back to the rnc comedy show, you can go back to whining and posting gibberish from the sept 1 4 in saint paul minnesota

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dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 07:38 PM

Isn't it too cute, that the ugly old fat troll in AZ, has no answers for the TRUTH here that we post, links and all, so he likes to call it gibberish instead of admit he can't debate it!

Poor pitiful old slug of a man.


And Stevie-o, I remember only too clearly how hot to trot you were for Jacque, trying to be friends with her, exchanging emails etc. So maybe you can try and fool your new friends here, but there are those of us who know you would have jumped in that old Silverado and gone zooming to ohio if she had beckoned! hahaha
She knew a old nut case when she saw it!


Well, Dems, will log off. Al gore to come on soon, and don't want to miss him.


Blog ya all tomorrow.


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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 07:41 PM

Hi all good Democrats!
I just received this from the ACLU
Please take a moment and read.

Traveling Anytime Soon? Kiss Your Privacy Goodbye

If you’re traveling outside the United States anytime soon, you can kiss your right to privacy, and perhaps your laptop, digital camera and cell phone, goodbye.

With no suspicion and no explanation, the U.S. government can seize your laptop, cell phone, or PDA as you enter the United States and download all your private information -- including your personal and business documents, emails, phone calls, and web history. The Department of Homeland Security confirms that this is the official policy.

Seizing laptops and cameras at the border isn’t the only travel security measure that infringes on our civil liberties. Earlier this summer, the U.S. government's "terrorist watch list" surpassed one million names and is growing by over twenty-thousand names per month. Your name might be on the list, but there's no way to know for sure until you are delayed or detained for hours in a back room.

It’s hard to know what surveillance-state bureaucrats will come up with next. For instance, many airports are using scanners that are so invasive that they are like a virtual strip search. And recently, the TSA expressed interest in having every traveler wear an "electro-muscular disruption" bracelet that airline personnel or marshals could use to shock passengers into submission. Unless something is done, this plan may not be as far-fetched as one would think.

Traveling shouldn’t mean checking your rights when you’re checking your luggage. It’s time for some sanity when it comes to security. Please, speak out now.

>> Tell Congress: It’s time to rein in travel abuses by the Department of Homeland Security.

Go to the ACLU web site for more information on how to protest.
Thanks

BBL
Gotta' go to a move on party for Sen. Obama and Sen. Biden!

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marymac_memphis on August 28, 2008 at 07:46 PM

Obama's got Crow (Sheryl Crow)
McCain eats crow (for all his flip-flops)
Hello fine Dems!

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Chicago on August 28, 2008 at 07:48 PM

Posted by PamB on August 28, 2008 at 07:10 PM

OLD story, recycled. The State of Michigan puts out bids for VOLUME purchases and the ability to deliver items to the thousands of State offices and warehouses spread out over sever thousand square miles (on two peninsulas).

If she has a fleet of trucks that could cover the ENTIRE State, on time, for less money than she could have, and been competitive, THEN (and ONLY THEN) she has a beef.

As it is, Michigan has had a "minority contract consideration" law since at least the 1970's.

It's like a local hot dog vendor claiming that they could feed all the prisons, State office building cafeterias, and anything else the State lets contracts on.

The troll is an idiot, and he revels in his stupidity every time he logs on.

In the late 1970's and early 80's the 'Buy American (NAMED', although they were really made somewhere else) nitwits went NUTS because the State of Michigan started buying TORO forklifts. NOT "American-NAMED" made stuff that was built somewhere else.

The Japanese companies came in with better bids than ANY "AMERICAN" company that actually moved all the manufacturing across the borders.

What these assholes didn't realize with their "Hate ALL Japanese products" bullshit was that NO, ABSOLUTELY ZERO American company made forklifts IN Michigan at that time. They shipped those jobs off shore!

TORO at least HAD a plant near Kalamazoo ("Yes, there really IS a Kalamazoo" as the sign at the train station says) and that put several hundred laid off AMERICAN (former) workers to WORK!

The asshole trolls don't know shit, and they demonstrate it every day.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 07:55 PM

Posted by dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 12:22 PM Mensa school. there in MN, there is an on-line test, called "The Lake Wobegon Edition i from minnesota never heard of it

I'm from MN, dusty - Pam's giving me a hard time (sort of). She's just jealous because we have the Mall of America.

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 07:58 PM

Hey, dors.

I noticed yesterday that Stevie said he didn't have time to go back to a post you made the day before (although you provided the time for it) because it was too "hard" yet he can come up with altered posts from other people from 2005 an hour later!

So, little Stevie, ARE YOU GOING TO ANSWER DORSNAO'S QUESTIONS OR NOT?

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 08:02 PM

I am really tired of listening to these idiot pundits ask Obama supporters if they think a black man can really win. How come they don't ask McCain supporters if a 72 yr. old man can win? How come they don't ask if McCain's divorce will hurt him politically? How come they don't ask if his involvement in the Keating 5 will be bad for his chances?

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Chicago on August 28, 2008 at 08:11 PM

Posted by marymac_memphis on August 28, 2008 at 06:31 PM

Shut up marymac, if you don't like what is posted on our blog you should find another.

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Sally-* on August 28, 2008 at 08:15 PM

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 08:02 PM

Shut up DoPeyDoodle! No one was talking to you.

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Sally-* on August 28, 2008 at 08:22 PM

Never again will the working class in this country be treated like shit.

The selfish, lying bastard neocons, the selfish, lying bastard neocon radio jockeys and tv jockeys and the selfish, lying bastard president are all going to hell. How stupid is half of our population to vote for these selfish, lying neocon bastards. They too are culpable and will pay by spending eternity in hell.

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Johne on August 28, 2008 at 08:24 PM

Posted by Little Stevie* on August 28, 2008 at 06:03 PM

Boy, asswipe, you sure Do rely on SEVERELY edited "news" from your wingnut blogs.

HERE IS THE ACTUAL ARTICLE FROM THE "DETROIT FREE PRESS":

Longtime Democrat now supports McCain

Lying moron trolls.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 08:26 PM

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 08:02 PM I noticed yesterday that Stevie said he didn't have time to go back to a post you made the day before (although you provided the time for it)

It was hours before - on the same thread - but I posted it before midnight - he posts comments like that because he's smart.

He doesn't read my posts - just yours. Congratulations!! :)

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 08:28 PM

What is all this talk about Greek columns?

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GregL on August 28, 2008 at 08:34 PM

Posted by GregL on August 28, 2008 at 08:34 PM What is all this talk about Greek columns?

Texas declared war on Greece and the Greek army is marching in response.

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 08:40 PM

Oh, I thought it had something to do with the stage at Inve...Mile High Stadium. I wasn't sure what everyone was talking about, since it looks like the Oval Office to me.

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GregL on August 28, 2008 at 08:42 PM
There's only one problem though.. Myself being a stout centrist and only political affliation is to the side of common sense, I wonder if universal healthcare something our government can even handle in a fiscally responsible way.... Posted by BrotherJonathan on August 28, 2008 at 02:49 PM

What is a stout centrist? A fat man about to get run over by a fucking truck because he's standing in the middle of the road unsure of which way to go because the wind isn't blowing? And to whose common sense do you adhere? The conservatives or the progressives? Don't GIVE me any bullshit about how there is only ONE "common sense". This isn't the 18th century anymore, the Enlightenment is dead, and you need to join the 21st century. There is no "cold hard reason" that functions outside of emotions. Hell, most "reasoning" isn't even a conscious process.

Our government actually handles money fairly well, when it isn't being run by people who want to destroy the infrastructure that has been PROGRESSIVELY built over the last two hundred years and outsource everything to private corporations that are making disgusting profits from our common wealth.

If our government pays two hundred dollars for a hammer, you can be damn sure that hammer is going to do exactly what it is designed to do, the WAY it is supposed to do it, and is NOT going to screw up at a critical time costing us WAY more money than the original hammer (Not that I've ever seen the evidence of the "two hundred dollar hammer" anyway.)

I'm all for universal healthcare. Everybody is. Posted by BrotherJonathan on August 28, 2008 at 02:49 PM

No, not everyone is. There is a small minority in this country that believe that if someone gets ill and can't afford care, that's THEIR problem. They believe that if the person was strong and disciplined enough, they would be making enough money to afford health care. Hell, some of them even believe if a person is strong and disciplined enough, they wouldn't have gotten sick in the first place. Nevermind that the REASON someone may have gotten ill is because the plant down the road is leaking pollutants into the river that runs into the town reservoir, why should someone ELSE have to pay to take care of them? It certainly isn't the fault of the owner of the plant, he didn't FORCE that person to drink that water. Course, he didn't warn the town, either, but then, in this world of "self-made men", no one has any responsibility to others, do they?
Course, that's not the way the story should run....it should run to the positive. Like the "Joe Republican" story, except at the end, it shouldn't be a sarcastic commentary, it should be Joe Republican waking the FUCK up and realizing how much worse off he would be without progressives. Maybe I'll write that story later. Because sarcasm and satire are REALLY not getting us anywhere in the wider world outside this blog, no matter how much fun they are. :)


But I look at the choices given to US Government employees (and my daughter worked for the Dept. of Commerce, so I saw them), and I know this. If we model our Medicare and our Universal Health plans after what we give US employees, we would have excellent plans. The law of large numbers would keep costs down. Employers #2 largest expense right now is Health care costs, so let them subsidize the plans as they will be getting to save a lot of money if the government takes it over.
Posted by PamB on August 28, 2008 at 03:31 PM

I like THIS choice: Get sick, go to doctor, get diagnosed. If simple, get prescription, go to pharmacy, get prescription, go home, take prescription, get well. If not simple, find problem, get it fixed, get well. Healthcare should not be profitable, period. Health care is a basic human right. Yes, it really is. Check Amendment IX. We keep finding new rights, it's amazing how PROGRESS is like that.

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GregL on August 28, 2008 at 08:44 PM

Posted by marymac_memphis on August 28, 2008 at 06:31 PM

mary, it comes from some Pug lunatic freakazoid factless drone with a blog called "wizbang". Just some right wing Michelle Martian wanna-be that Little Sally has been citing for the last few days. Little Stevie has a new crush! How cute).

(He probably hasn't yet been banned from there for being "creepy" and reported as a cyberstalker like what happened on e-Bay).

She's not exactly the "source of record"

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 08:50 PM

bush is f**king the chicken producers now with his imperial majesties war mongering policies around the world.

The nation's chicken producers faced more bad news Thursday as Russia said that 19 U.S. poultry producers will be barred from exporting their products there, a move that would deprive them access to a key market.

Russian chicken ban more bad news for US producers


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Johne on August 28, 2008 at 08:50 PM

Posted by GregL on August 28, 2008 at 08:42 PM Oh, I thought it had something to do with the stage at Inve...Mile High Stadium.

More likely GOP envy

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 08:52 PM

Thanks bush, cheney and mcbush. You are the dumbest, most evil, selfish, greedy, arrogant f**kers on the planet and who have ever lived on the planet>

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Johne on August 28, 2008 at 08:54 PM

Al Gore is ripping the asshole out of bush, cheney and mcbush.

GO FOR IT AL!

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Johne on August 28, 2008 at 08:56 PM

Gore: I believe in recyling but McCain recyling bush's policies is ridiculous.

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Johne on August 28, 2008 at 08:58 PM

Posted by GregL on August 28, 2008 at 08:44 PM

Greg, John McCain has already solved the problems with health care.

Mr. Goodman, who helped craft Sen. John McCain's health care policy, said anyone with access to an emergency room effectively has insurance, albeit the government acts as the payer of last resort. (Hospital emergency rooms by law cannot turn away a patient in need of immediate care.)

"So I have a solution. And it will cost not one thin dime," Mr. Goodman said. "The next president of the United States should sign an executive order requiring the Census Bureau to cease and desist from describing any American – even illegal aliens – as uninsured. Instead, the bureau should categorize people according to the likely source of payment should they need care.

"So, there you have it. Voila! Problem solved."

The real question here, is Why does Senator McCain have an adviser that speaks French?"

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 09:01 PM

Wow.

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GregL on August 28, 2008 at 09:01 PM

sally's blow-up cheney doll must have exploded again. He hasn't learned that it is not a toy.

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Johne on August 28, 2008 at 09:03 PM

Posted by dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 09:01 PM

Naw, the real question is, why does McCain have an advisor that can't spell "viola"?

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GregL on August 28, 2008 at 09:03 PM

Posted by dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 08:40 PM

COOL!! They are heading West!

I just went to 'Greek-Fest' (or whatever it's called) last weekend! A half mile street fair of food and culture in GREEK TOWN!! Yum Yum Yum!

Brought home some tasty goodies, too.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 09:06 PM

Jesse Jackson:

Roosevelt gave us the New Deal.

Obama will give us the Better Deal.

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Johne on August 28, 2008 at 09:11 PM

Susan Eisenhower's on

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 09:12 PM

Thank God that moonbat never became President. I wonder how cold the earth will get before he stops harpin about global frickin warmin. He still thinks the Arctic ice cap will melt though there is nothing to indicate that it will.

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Sally-* on August 28, 2008 at 09:14 PM

dors, I looked at the article you linked....Eva Deluna, from the Center for Public Policy Priorities, is making the same old progressive mistake. We don't want health insurance, we want health care. Insurance by nature is set up to make a profit by paying as little out as possible. This is NOT what we need.

I had a dream
When I was young
A dream of sweet illusion
A glimpse of hope and unity
And visions of one sweet union
But a cold wind blows
And a dark rain falls
And in my heart it shows
Look what they've done to my dreams


And NOW I am...WE are taking them BACK!

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GregL on August 28, 2008 at 09:16 PM

just popped back in to say Al Gore was great, as expected! "I believe in Recycling, but trading Bush for McCain is ridiculous!" HAHAHAHA


And I wanted to add, for Stevie boy's sake, that I have seen Jacque's engagement and wedding pictures, and she looks Fantastic! Long blonde hair, thin, gorgeous! You missed your chance, there ole sicko.


Dors, you are on my friend. We can all either meet half way with our samples of sauce, or mail each other frozen containers. And you too should look into that on line Mensa test, you proved you are smarter than Stevie. Look how mad he got at MaryMac who confronted him on legitimacy of the crap he posts. I zip right by him now: to stop and read is to give credance to the old bullshitter!

I had to LMAO a couple minutes ago. The media on MSNBC were discussing the 75,000 people jammed in there to watch Obama. One of them was saying how McCain will talk in front of 10,000 next week, and they are having trouble finding takers for those tickets!!!! The Repugs don't even want to watch him!

And the Democratic entertainment is always SO MUCH BETTER than the couple of old country singers they find to pay to go to the Republican one! I bet they have to pay the delegates who end up going too. Who in their right mind want to be seen on TV these days, cheering on The Republican Wall of Shame?????


Night again, Dems.


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PamB on August 28, 2008 at 09:16 PM
Who in their right mind want to be seen on TV these days, cheering on The Republican Wall of Shame?????


Night again, Dems.


Posted by PamB on August 28, 2008 at 09:16 PM

I imagine Toby Creep will be there...maybe I'll go put a boot in HIS ass.

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GregL on August 28, 2008 at 09:22 PM

And I wanted to add, for Stevie boy's sake, that I have seen Jacque's engagement and wedding pictures, and she looks Fantastic! Long blonde hair, thin, gorgeous! You missed your chance, there ole sicko.

Posted by PamB on August 28, 2008 at 09:16 PM

Oh, compared to you sure she does, anyone would.

But, I am still not attracted to fat gals. You have to roll them in flour and look for the wet spot.

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Sally-* on August 28, 2008 at 09:23 PM

Oh, that reminded me dors! I meant ot say this last night but forgot...Actually, Jacque has TWO carpenter friends. :)

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GregL on August 28, 2008 at 09:24 PM

bbaB

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GregL on August 28, 2008 at 09:25 PM

Posted by GregL on August 28, 2008 at 09:16 PM We don't want health insurance, we want health care. Insurance by nature is set up to make a profit by paying as little out as possible.

Some people think that having actuaries all around the country devise ever more elaborate risk pools brings market efficiencies to bear on health care and reduce costs.

I'd be willing to compromise and create one pool called the United States of America and let insurance companies bid every five years or so on administering it for a fee.

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 09:29 PM

Sally*, why don't you go jump in a lake, and NOBODY will look for the "spot", wet or otherwise.

Here comes Durbin, the Senate quipster. Let's count the puns.

(Maybe this will be too important for the funnin')

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 09:33 PM

Posted by PamB on August 28, 2008 at 09:16 PM We can all either meet half way with our samples of sauce, or mail each other frozen containers.

I'll be in NY again I'm sure - at least a few times - one of my boys is going to school there.

What we need now is a kitchen! :)

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 09:34 PM


Most People Know When Life Begins
August 27th, 2008 by Sharon

Unlike Barack Obama, who says that’s “above his pay grade,” most Americans have a pretty good idea when life begins and that’s when John McCain said it does: conception.

Zogby International conducted the poll for WorldNetDaily and it questioned 1,099 likely voters from August 22 to 24.

The survey found 59 percent believe human life begins at conception, another 16.8 percent say it happens when an unborn child can survive outside her mother’s womb with medical assistance, and just 17.2 percent say human life doesn’t begin until birth.

Worse for Obama, most of those polled said they would oppose a candidate who didn’t know when a baby is a baby.

The Zogby poll asked a follow-up question about whether voters would support or oppose a presidential candidate who doesn’t know when human life begins. Voters, by a 55.3-to-27.7 percent margin, said they would oppose such a candidate.

Supporting abortion till (or even after) birth is a tough position to sell to all but the hardliners.

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Sally-* on August 28, 2008 at 09:35 PM

Posted by GregL on August 28, 2008 at 09:22 PM I imagine Toby Creep will be there...maybe I'll go put a boot in HIS ass.

Give him a Dixie Chicks DVD after you do.

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 09:40 PM

Posted by GregL on August 28, 2008 at 09:24 PM Oh, that reminded me dors! I meant ot say this last night but forgot...Actually, Jacque has TWO carpenter friends. :)

OK - I'm not taking any more questions on this matter until I consult with Jacque.

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 09:42 PM

Republicans talk about putting country first - tell that to Marian IN

Give that guy more stage time - in fact, get him elected to office.

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 09:44 PM

Posted by Sally-* on August 28, 2008 at 09:35 PM Supporting abortion till (or even after) birth is a tough position to sell to all but the hardliners.

I linked to all the Republicans that voted no or concerned on those bills - the last time you posted them

but since you don't read my posts, I guess you didn't read that they called you ditz.

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 09:48 PM
OK - I'm not taking any more questions on this matter until I consult with Jacque.

Posted by dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 09:42 PM

LOL! I'm only trying to confuse our resident evil, not you. :)

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GregL on August 28, 2008 at 09:54 PM

Posted by GregL on August 28, 2008 at 09:54 PM LOL! I'm only trying to confuse our resident evil, not you. :)

Yea sure - Texans just started a war with Greece - I'm not listening to anything you say

I'm going to listen to Dick Durbin.

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 09:58 PM

Holy Cannoli!! With a side of Guacamole!

LOOK AT THAT CROWD!

Ed Schultz had an idea today when some right wing tool said that people were only going to show up for the free concerts..

"HEY, tell McSame to hold HIS acceptance speech in the Metrodome! Let's see how much of a crowd HE can draw".

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 09:58 PM

Most People Know When Life Begins

John McCain said it does: conception.
Posted by Sally-* on August 28, 2008 at 09:35 PM


All i can say its a damn shame, that ("McNuts, Bush, "Dick and he is Cheney" was ever conceived.
The three stooges. Chenney as Moe, Bush as Larry, And McNuts, as Crazy Curly.

Maybe i should apologize to the three original stooges, the comparison, is a slam to them.

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 10:01 PM

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 09:58 PM Ed Schultz had an idea today when some right wing tool said that people were only going to show up for the free concerts..

Doesn't the GOP stage free concerts at their conventions? Maybe they should re-examine the play list.

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 10:05 PM

This convention is awesome.

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 10:05 PM

Barack Smith :)

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 10:06 PM

IT'S SHOW TIME!!!

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 10:13 PM

Pam,

I like that, "Republican wall of shame".

We should put together a wall similar to the
movable Vietnam Wall that was transported all over the country

This would be a big hit. Or how about a virtual republican wall of shame.

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Johne on August 28, 2008 at 10:14 PM

Enough Asshats, Enough!

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newsjunkie on August 28, 2008 at 10:21 PM

Enough Asshats, Enough!

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newsjunkie on August 28, 2008 at 10:24 PM

Nice "celebrity" dig at McGoo.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 10:32 PM

hi dorsano i been to mall of america it big place and nice to shop in

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dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 10:32 PM

Obama is making mcgeezer and his party look like a bunch of losers which they are.

I can't wait for the debates. Obama will make mcgeezer look like a blithering idiot and Obama will run circles around this dumb ass.

mcgeezer will respond with a fit of rage and that will be the end of his career.

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Johne on August 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM

WOW! Obama is serving up his own red meat and taking it to McLame like Dr. J driving toward the paint! That's what the Veep is supposed to start doing next week!

This guy is GOOD!

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

Read'em and weep repo's your officially done.

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newsjunkie on August 28, 2008 at 10:46 PM

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM This guy is GOOD!

He just rocked the nation.

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 10:48 PM

CHANGE HAPPENS!

Great bumper sticker slogan!

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 10:52 PM

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 10:52 PM CHANGE HAPPENS!

:)

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 10:58 PM

All i can say is WOW, that was a super duper colossal speech!

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 10:59 PM

They should played "We Will, We Will, Barack You" to "play him out", and 'DO IT LIVE!!".

;)

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 11:00 PM

Super good job Howard Dean, of putting on the best convention, i have ever watched. THANK YOU

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 11:02 PM

WOW.
OBAMA

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Chicago on August 28, 2008 at 11:05 PM

It was great to switch to FOX News right after Obama's spoke. Brit Hume couldn't wait to get in and try to find something to throw water on this event. He was LAME. I laughed out loud. He sounded like such a fool and it was SOOOO obvious that he was trying to find SOMETHING to minimize the impact of this GREAT speech. He utterly failed.

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Chicago on August 28, 2008 at 11:10 PM

Good God!!

The nitwits at Red State are going NUTS!! They are PISSED OFF BIG TIME that their 'Greek Temple" wasn't even on screen 9HAH! Great fake out, Barack team!) and now they are "twittering crap like this:

Crowe - I wonder how many people the Dems could have fed with the money spent on that set and moving it all to Invesco...

As if that Trust Fund Asswipe has ever even tipped a bartender in his life!

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 11:11 PM

Posted by chassie on August 28, 2008 at 11:02 PM

I'll second that emotion.

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SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 11:13 PM

Barack Rocked The House - Obama/Biden/AmericanPeople 2008* Welcome to the 21st Century!!!

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johnyfaster on August 28, 2008 at 11:15 PM

Posted by chassie on August 28, 2008 at 11:02 PM Super good job Howard Dean, of putting on the best convention, i have ever watched. THANK YOU

I agree - this convention raised the bar as far as political conventions are concerned.

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 11:17 PM

This speech was broadcast around the world. We have a superstar in Obama. The world can see that we have a real leader running for president against an old fool. How stupid will we look if we elect the old fool John McLame.

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Chicago on August 28, 2008 at 11:18 PM

Hillary was awesome, barrack was awesomer we had two great candidates and they have someone with no mind, that can't give a speech, who loves his country but just doesn't get it.

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newsjunkie on August 28, 2008 at 11:22 PM

Obama rocked the nation.
And with him leading us, we will rock the world.
If the republicans are not nervous, they are stupid.

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Chicago on August 28, 2008 at 11:23 PM

MOSCOW — As Russia struggled to rally international support for its military action in Georgia, Vladimir V. Putin, the country’s paramount leader, lashed out at the United States on Thursday, contending that the White House may have orchestrated the conflict to benefit one of the candidates in the American presidential election.

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gregg on August 28, 2008 at 11:27 PM

I can just hear limpballs and hannity tomorrow.

"His shoes weren't tied so he can't be president."

They will make a similar stupid comment. Mark my words.

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Johne on August 28, 2008 at 11:27 PM

Don't you love it when the candidate holds his cards till when HE wants to play them instead of the media?

Not enough meat this week? Obama grilled McCain and barbecued Bush. They've been burned badly and the coals have just been lit.

The gauntlet has been thrown down. Bring it on, baby. Who has the best judgment and temperament to lead this country in the 21st century?

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SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 11:27 PM

wow the democratic speakers started out good and got better and better as the week went on with obama taking the cake! way, way beyond my wildest dreams.

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gregg on August 28, 2008 at 11:28 PM

Looks like the trolls are speechless after that, there trying to get some talking points from the pug pundits, but can't fine any of substace. Hurray.


Obama/Biden 2008

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 11:29 PM

wow the democratic speakers started out good and got better and better as the week went on with obama taking the cake! way, way beyond my wildest dreams.

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gregg on August 28, 2008 at 11:29 PM

Posted by newsjunkie on August 28, 2008 at 11:22 PM

But he has "Frrriennndddzzz"

He says so every 20 seconds.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 11:30 PM

Obama sent the message to John McLame.
The gloves are off. McLames "temperment" is an issue. And we are going to attack you for you republicans for YOUR failures of the last 8 yrs.
We will see if Old man Mclame is up to the fight.

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Chicago on August 28, 2008 at 11:30 PM
who loves his country but just doesn't get it.

Posted by newsjunkie on August 28, 2008 at 11:22 PM

Except McCain DOES get it, and he DOESN'T care...well, he cares, but only about making us "tougher and more disciplined" so we can "pull ourselves up by our bootstraps" and be "self-made men". Women can get their asses back in the kitchen and make me a turkey pot pie.

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GregL on August 28, 2008 at 11:31 PM

this is an excellent idea...finally the repelicans are using their thinking caps...

WaPo
"Republican officials said yesterday that they are considering delaying the start of the GOP convention in Minneapolis-St. Paul because of Tropical Storm Gustav, which is on track to hit the Gulf Coast, and possibly New Orleans, as a full-force hurricane early next week."

...yes indeed they should delay it until 2/1/09...

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gregg on August 28, 2008 at 11:32 PM

Obama reminds me of John F. Kennedy. Kennedy had charisma the same as Obamo and Kennedy could also string together more than two words at a time.

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Johne on August 28, 2008 at 11:32 PM

I don't know about you all, but i can't wait for sept. 26th to see Obama tear McNuts a new one, in the debate in Miss. Plus its my birthday, what a good birthday this is going to be.

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chassie on August 28, 2008 at 11:33 PM

Posted by dusty2006 on August 28, 2008 at 10:32 PM hi dorsano I've been to Mall of America it's a big place and nice to shop in

Hi, dusty - I've tried to convince Pam to come visit and ride the roller coaster with me but she chose Hawaii instead.

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 11:36 PM

i guess the focus on the family praying for rain of biblical proportions to hit denver went unanswered...

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gregg on August 28, 2008 at 11:36 PM

The trolls were so distraught at being stomped on that they jumped out the window. No one told them that a donkey just deposited 200 pounds of shit just outside the window. Pee-you or did they always smell like that.

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Johne on August 28, 2008 at 11:37 PM

gregg, I have to disagree slightly. I actually think Gore was better. Course, I could just be tired. I mean, it's not everyday I start a war with the Greeks...but they refused to give me any feta cheese, so it had to be done.

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GregL on August 28, 2008 at 11:38 PM

Good GOD!

Red State is going NUTS! They are cutting down his TIE!!

THis looks like the troll's "Stupid Academy", with stupid posts about nonsense! All that is needed are the diaper references!

Watch the melt-down LIVE on Twitter!

Aren't these the guys who insisted that Fred Thompson was going to save the Pug Party because he was so macho on TV?

HAHAHAHAHAHA!! Those tough guy girly men can't even handle a speech without reaching for the smelling salts.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 11:38 PM

wtf?

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gregg on August 28, 2008 at 11:38 PM

I am praying for their elephant to dump 200 pounds of aromatic shit on mcgeezer.

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Johne on August 28, 2008 at 11:39 PM

So when they make the movie of this election, who are they going to cast as John McLame?
Jack Nicholson?
Dick Cheney?
Some other old crazy-looking guy?

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Chicago on August 28, 2008 at 11:40 PM

Posted by Chicago on August 28, 2008 at 11:10 PM

Did you hear the written reaction given by the McCain camp to the media after the speech? They had obviously written it before the speech was made and it doesn't even pertain to what Obama said.

They were so caught off guard that it sounds like McCain is....out of touch. Obama personally challenged the old geezer's temperament and it sounds like he doesn't even know he was insulted.

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SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 11:40 PM

gregl, gore was superb and i read that kerry was as well so i will have to go back and view that but obama came after all these incredibly articulate, thoughtful and rousing speeches and he built slowly to such a good crescendo that for me he showed he is now the alpha male of a very formidable pack of wolves...

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gregg on August 28, 2008 at 11:42 PM

As Obama said,
"ENOUGH"

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Chicago on August 28, 2008 at 11:42 PM

Posted by SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 11:27 PM Don't you love it when the candidate holds his cards till when HE wants to play them instead of the media?

Leadership is always welcome.

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 11:43 PM

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 11:38 PM

Speaking of girly men? Did you know that Arnold has already said he's got better things to do than go to McCain's convention.

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SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 11:43 PM

Chicago on August 28, 2008 at 11:10 PM

Just as CNN's Leslie Sanchez and Reggie Aqui did literally less than five minutes after O8ama's speech ended; threw water on anything they could. Sanchez rated his speech a C, and Aqui tried to portray the event to 'a rock concert, or a movie'.

The media is scared because they are seeing a blowout election in the making, and they will lose millions of dollars in ad revenue when their ratings decline. Of course, they are going to be hyper-critical of anything O8ama does and says. However, don't expect them to admit that.

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davidual on August 28, 2008 at 11:44 PM

Posted by SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 11:40 PM Did you hear the written reaction given by the McCain camp to the media after the speech? They had obviously written it before the speech was made and it doesn't even pertain to what Obama said.

I'm not surprised.

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 11:47 PM

is bush really going to appear at the pelican convention? he should try to scalp his tickets but then they have gone down in value the last few days..might be hard giving them away.

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gregg on August 28, 2008 at 11:50 PM

So far it looks like only 2 racist Pug progeny on Red State with their "deep thoughts", as if a self made puddle counts as "deep". I guess the rest gave up.


11:40
Mayhem - It won't be about race until 100 pct. of blacks vote Democrat. 95 pct. is not enough to qualify.
11:41
Crowe - "The greatest day in our nation's history" was when white people in Iowa voted for ablack man

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

P.S., Mrs. Greenspan needs to either retire to Nantucket or find a new line of work. I'm thinking something involving a coffee pot and a tip jar. She is CLUELESS about the world outside the Beltway.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 11:51 PM

Posted by Johne on August 28, 2008 at 11:39 PM I am praying for their elephant to dump 200 pounds of aromatic shit on mcgeezer.

No need to pray - our President already dumped enough shit on him - pray that Senator McCain has the courage to tell his party that.

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 11:52 PM

Posted by SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 11:40 PM

Sandy,
yes, I did hear their Lame response. They are counting on the fact that the democrats have not counter-attacked. Well Obama sent the message tonight. We WILL fight back with every weapon in our arsenal. To John McLame:
We will attack you on your support of Bush's policies.
We will attack you on your age/senility
We will attack you on your record in the senate.
We will attack you on your divorce of your first wife.
YOu better be ready for a fight, Old man McCain.
Because we are not taking this republican shit any more!

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Chicago on August 28, 2008 at 11:52 PM

Posted by Chicago on August 28, 2008 at 11:40 PM

Either Mickey Rooney or Dick Van Patten. Mr. Magoo is booked for that hour.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 28, 2008 at 11:54 PM

Posted by gregg on August 28, 2008 at 11:36 PM i guess the focus on the family praying for rain of biblical proportions to hit denver went unanswered...

Someone was praying for rain? How kind of them.

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 11:55 PM

Charles Babbington? Keith Olberman just said this AP guy got Obama's speech all wrong. He smells a rat...and he says the guy better look for other work.

Can't wait to read it myself. Everybody get your pens and keyboards ready. Perhaps it's time to help Mr. Babbington launch a new career? Read the article and get ready to pick it apart in a Letter to the Editor to your local paper.

This is what participatory democracy is all about. When the Babbingtons of this world are more interested in pleasing their corporate media bosses instead of telling the truth, you barbecue them.

Babbitt..ton? Hmmm. That name seems so familiar.

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SandyH on August 28, 2008 at 11:56 PM

Posted by gregg on August 28, 2008 at 11:50 PM is bush really going to appear at the pelican convention?

That's what I'm hearing - we've got one major interstate down due to the bridge collapse - when he makes his appearance another interstate will be shutdown - that leaves only one other way to get to work.

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dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 11:59 PM

this just gets richer by the minute:


WaPo:
"For Bush and Republican presidential candidate John McCain, Gustav threatens to provide an untimely reminder of Hurricane Katrina. A new major storm along the Gulf Coast would renew memories of one of the low points of the Bush administration, while pulling public attention away from McCain's formal coronation as the GOP presidential nominee.

Senior Republicans said images of political celebration in the Twin Cities while thousands of Americans flee a hurricane could be disastrous..."

but not as disastrous as having images of the bush family appear on cable tv...

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gregg on August 29, 2008 at 12:01 AM

Posted by gregg on August 28, 2008 at 11:42 PM

Alpha males? How about Alpha HillRaisers? We Democrats have so many wolves we'll just have to send them on the scent of every weak incumbent Republican across the country.

I want Congress, too!

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SandyH on August 29, 2008 at 12:01 AM

Posted by Chicago on August 28, 2008 at 11:52 PM

Chicago,

Yeah. It's time to tell McCain to get off OUR White House grass.

Have you been listening to Tweety? He's going completely ballistic on the GOP and Rove.

Even Pat Buchanan is is coherent tonight and loves the speech.

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SandyH on August 29, 2008 at 12:06 AM

Posted by dorsano on August 28, 2008 at 11:59 PM

Chimpy is making noises about blowing off his own "Bon Voyage" party.

Fox: Bush might not speak at RNC on Monday because of Gustav.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 29, 2008 at 12:08 AM

The most important message Obama sent tonight was that he will fight. The republicans are counting on the fact that we will try to take "the high road" as Kerry did and as Gore did. That means they hoped we would give them a pass on their failures. Well Obama told them they had better get ready for a fight. Obama comes from the south side of Chicago. So he knows you don't come to a knife fight with a butter knife. Chicago poiitics. Get ready McLame. If you think we are going to "play nice", then you ain't been to Chicago!

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Chicago on August 29, 2008 at 12:09 AM

Obama reminds me of Bill Clinton. Young, smart, brash, articulate. As long as we don't let them get away with their smear crap, they cannot compete with that. So we need to attack Mclame on his age, his family values (divorce) and his failure to support our troops injured in Iraq.

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Chicago on August 29, 2008 at 12:21 AM

Posted by Chicago on August 29, 2008 at 12:09 AM

Yep! Politics is more of a contact sport here than the NFL. (Figuratively AND literally, considering the Bears).

I like the fact that Obama gave him a 'not so veiled threat' to "leave my wife and family alone or YOUR'S will be eviscerated--BOTH of them". Make no mistake about it, he will de-bone and fillet that POS if he OR his minions go after his family.

And his POW! POW! POW!!!! talking point is now open for discussion.

Obama is setting it up so he can pull the pin on McSame's emotional grenade and watch him explode on national TV.

That old geezer needs to take TWO "Ambiens" per night, after today.

He will either be running scared or running away.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 29, 2008 at 12:22 AM

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 29, 2008 at 12:08 AM Chimpy is making noises about blowing off his own "Bon Voyage" party.

It would be better for Democrats if he showed up - but with so much construction and re-construction going on here it would be nice if he arrived at 1:00 AM and not during rush hour.

But we'll handle it either way - he's never eaten Lutefisk and we have - you probably have no idea what I'm referring to, DPD - but just imagine GregG's spaghetti gravy - that will get you close.

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dorsano on August 29, 2008 at 12:26 AM

Sanchez rated his speech a C, and Aqui tried to portray the event to 'a rock concert, or a movie'.

Posted by davidual on August 28, 2008 at 11:44 PM

Sanchez rated it a C? She must be a Young Republican pundit/intern. Even Pat Buchanan couldn't help admire the speech.

Aqui must not get out of the house to often. Mick Jagger would have given McCain the finger and mooned the cameras. Such sheltered lives these conservative children live.

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SandyH on August 29, 2008 at 12:28 AM

the democrats took a campaign that was becoming vague and meandering and put a steel spine in it....it's almost as if the thing had to go into a down faze to come back up roaring.

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gregg on August 29, 2008 at 12:29 AM

YIKES!! Even Tweety is screaming about the fairness of Obama bringing up McLame's "temperament" Olbermann and Sharpton are joining in now, too.

"Mental temperament." Good talking point.

Keep poking this lunatic with a sharp pointy stick and watch him blow!

Maybe he'll understand what will happen if he keeps aggravating other countries. HE will just look like an ass on TV, THEY may launch nukes.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 29, 2008 at 12:30 AM

i guess the trolls are busy making their hitch hiking signs for the trip to the twin cities...should be easy pickins for escaped maniacs dressed as clowns in stolen k-cars....

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gregg on August 29, 2008 at 12:32 AM

Is McLame going to be able to have any music at his campaign? Obama had Crow and Springsteen amongst others. Are there any stars that will let McLame use their stuff? Maybe they could have Cheney sing something?

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Chicago on August 29, 2008 at 12:33 AM

Maybe i should apologize to the three original stooges, the comparison, is a slam to them.

Posted by chassie on August 28, 2008 at 10:01 PM

Don't worry about it, they are all dead now.

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Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 12:35 AM

Even Russian's Putin, has got these neo con bastards figured out. Now botox Cindy is over there so she can come back, and put the fear of god, in the lambs and sheep. I not only hate these people, i despise them.

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chassie on August 29, 2008 at 12:36 AM

i guess the focus on the family praying for rain of biblical proportions to hit denver went unanswered...

Posted by gregg on August 28, 2008 at 11:36 PM

It was a joke dumbass.

Sheesh liberals have no sense of humor at all.

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Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 12:38 AM

Maybe they could have Cheney sing something?

Posted by Chicago on August 29, 2008 at 12:33 AM

Are you kidding, he can't even shoot, what would he sing pop goes the wiesel?

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chassie on August 29, 2008 at 12:40 AM

Hello demsters,

Wow, Senator Obama's speech was inspirational.

Kicking out the old corrupted cultured with grace and compassion and a firm boot. A real uniter and educator to inspire our best efforts to fix this country.

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TomN on August 29, 2008 at 12:41 AM

it was as much a joke as you are sally....you little creationist...by the way dan is out back with your mom and they insist on huffing this can of paint stripper....at least it might get some of that makeup off her face....

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gregg on August 29, 2008 at 12:42 AM

HEY,
It is John McLame's birthday in 15 minutes.
He will be 72 years old.
HAPPY Birthday John! Do you know which of your houses the party will be held at??

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Chicago on August 29, 2008 at 12:44 AM
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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 29, 2008 at 12:45 AM

How do you spell "competence"? the 2008 Democratic National Convention

Good night, all -

and thank you Susan Eisenhower. I doubt that anyone in the current administration read the book you co-edited in 2000, a year before September 11, Islam and Central Asia, which carried the subtitle, An Enduring Legacy or an Evolving Threat?

They were too intent on purging you from the Republican Party.

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dorsano on August 29, 2008 at 12:47 AM

Fox: Bush might not speak at RNC on Monday because of Gustav.

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 29, 2008 at 12:08 AM

DPD,

Is anybody going to attend McCain's coronation besides the Rev. Moon?

Cheney might have to move it to his undisclosed location so enough Republicans can attend without showing their faces.

The McCain Veep announcement tomorrow is shaping up to be a non-show, too. What happens if McCain chooses someone and they decline?

Can we depend on Spunky showing up with another birthday cake and a Hurricane Gustav cocktail?

If the Republicans cancel their convention, they might as well stay at home this November...since a lot of them already are planning to do that.

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SandyH on August 29, 2008 at 12:47 AM

You have to wonder if they will allow ads for depends during the republican convention.

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Chicago on August 29, 2008 at 12:47 AM

Sorry, the Ashcroft video didn't take.

I hope you watched the ENTIRE second clip. TOO true.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 29, 2008 at 12:49 AM

You better give up on your attempts at humor. You are never funny because you have no sense of humor. That is a trait amongst a majority of liberals.

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Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 12:50 AM

And leave the Middle East oil in the dust by 2018 by promoting alternative energy. We might even do a little better given half a chance, the race is on:
-------

Electric cars power ahead in Japan

By Jonathan Soble in Tokyo

Published: August 26 2008 03:00 | Last updated: August 26 2008 03:00

Japan is preparing for the arrival of plug-in electric cars next year with plans to build hundreds of "quick recharge" power stations and other infrastructure to accommodate the vehicles.

Drivers in Japan will be the first in the world to be offered battery-powered cars by large carmakers. The transport and power system upgrades, which are supported by the government, carmakers and electricity utilities, are designed to promote rapid adoption by easing concerns about the cars' convenience and driving range.

~snip~

Kanagawa prefecture, the region adjoining Tokyo, has committed to providing 150 of the quick-recharge stations as part of an effort to put at least 3,000 electric vehicles on its roads within five years.

The national government is backing the technology. Next month it will begin accepting applications from cities and towns wishing to become "model districts" for next-generation vehicle infra-structure, a programme that will involve installing power outlets at paycar parks, supermarkets and restaurant chains for drivers to use free of charge.

The government also plans to encourage private enterprise to offer discount rates to electric vehicle drivers on everything from parking to insurance and loans. It is pushing Japan Post, the recently privatised postal service, to convert its fleet of 21,000 delivery vehicles to electric cars.

Yasuo Fukuda, the prime minister, wants half of any new cars sold by 2020 to be pow-ered by non-petrol sources. Japan pledged at this year's G8 summit to cut overall carbon dioxide emissions by 60-80 per cent by 2050.


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TomN on August 29, 2008 at 12:50 AM

good night friends. this is going to be fun.

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gregg on August 29, 2008 at 12:52 AM

You have to wonder if they will allow ads for depends during the republican convention.

Posted by Chicago on August 29, 2008 at 12:47 AM

Pammy doesn't like it when you tease her. Stop it!

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Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 12:52 AM

So is Cheney going to speak at the republican convention? Is he going to wear his ventilator and black hood? Considering how McCain has questioned why Hillary is not the Democratic VP, can Mclame explain why Cheney won't be his???

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Chicago on August 29, 2008 at 12:55 AM

It was a joke dumbass.

Sheesh liberals have no sense of humor at all.

Posted by Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 12:38 AM

I hate to rain on your parade, but...

James Dobson doesn't joke about hell and damnation. You're the dumbass if you don't think these Religious Right people don't mean what they say.

When they pass that sanctinty of marriage ammendment, you'll have to start paying your ex-wife child support again...or go to hell.

I wouldn't underestimate these guys even if Dobson screwed up his rain dance this time.

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SandyH on August 29, 2008 at 12:56 AM

Posted by Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 12:52 AM

I wasn't teasing Pam, you stupid republican dupe. I was teasing McLame supporters like you. YOu just don't have the grey-matter to get it...
A lot like McLame.

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Chicago on August 29, 2008 at 01:00 AM

Good night fine Democrats.
Tonight was a great night. I will remember the day I watched Obama's acceptance speech. In spite of the incompetence of George Bush, this country remains GREAT! Abd with out supprt, Obama will be able to lead us to even greater heights.
Blog y'all tomorrow.

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Chicago on August 29, 2008 at 01:04 AM

Posted by Chicago on August 29, 2008 at 12:55 AM

The preliminary plans are for him to make a brief appearance at the convention, and then to go directly to the Republic of Georgia in order to stir up some more shit to help McLame's numbers.

Bush">http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-08-25-voa55.cfm">Bush Sending VP Cheney to Georgia to Underscore US Support

Because, ya know, Condi is a shitty Secretary of State, and Biden just got back from there with the REAL truth. So Dr. Evil has to stir the pot once again.

He's so tactful and all that. The term "diplomat" pretty much covers it.

Well, the DIP part, at least.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 29, 2008 at 01:05 AM

sally your mom just got her snout caught in the paint stripper can...and dan is so eager to get his huffs in he is using a crowbar to get it off...this isn't going to turn out well...but it might improve her looks!

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gregg on August 29, 2008 at 01:07 AM

gregg,

Yes, it's going to be fun.

All we have to worry about now is GOP voter suppression plans. Butters is working on it like thousands of other patriotic, hard-working election officials across the country.

Let's volunteer at the polls in November as monitors to witness and record any funny business from their side.

We are one step closer, but there's miles to go before we sleep safe and sound.

So everyone volunteer and participate in Your democracy.

Good night, all.

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SandyH on August 29, 2008 at 01:10 AM

MSNBC is re-running the Obama speech starting NOW!!!!

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 29, 2008 at 01:17 AM

And I especially like what he said that change doesn't come from government, the people bring the change to their government.

That should help to get people activated and maybe figuring out that they actually own and are the government. Inspire them to take responsibility for this mess in Washington, that their tax dollars have paid for, and hold their representatives to a higher standard than those personifying the present state of ineptitude and corruption.

We certainly can do better than this wars for oil dirty business and economy that we have been sold by hucksters and criminals, and Obama has proposed the alternative plan. Finally.

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TomN on August 29, 2008 at 01:17 AM

Posted by SandyH on August 29, 2008 at 12:56 AM

Posted by Chicago on August 29, 2008 at 01:00 AM

Posted by gregg on August 29, 2008 at 01:07 AM


No soup for you!!


G'nightall

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TomN on August 29, 2008 at 01:23 AM

Just spoke to my mother, she's 68, voted for Obama in the primary, she didn't know cindy mccain was worth 100 million. That hasn't really been out on the msm. They are the elitists. I just can't get over Mccain laying back and sucking up the fruits of cindy's old man's good fortune. I read a blog that said cindy's bootlegging father married off his daughter to a war hero, to put him up to run for senate to legitimize his business. Hmmm

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newsjunkie on August 29, 2008 at 01:23 AM

One for the road...

Most People Know When Life Begins
August 27th, 2008 by Sharon

sally*, most people know when life ends and it usually comes sometime after a Republican takes office.

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SandyH on August 29, 2008 at 01:25 AM

There are several people,I have met and know, that told me that they are getting e-mails and they believe these e-mails and that barack is a muslum. If they saw barack tonight, wouldn't they feel just a bit foolish for believeing this load of fear mongering crap. These people look sad and foolish to me.

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newsjunkie on August 29, 2008 at 01:38 AM

Ask these morons for their bank account numbers, because a nice Nigerian Prince wants to split 15.8 MILLION Dollars with you and you want them to have some of the bounty.

If it came in an email, it MUST be true. Right?

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 29, 2008 at 01:45 AM

Oh that's good Doo-Bee and perfectly describes the mentality of these people.

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newsjunkie on August 29, 2008 at 01:50 AM

Well Obama sent the message tonight. We WILL fight back with every weapon in our arsenal. To John McLame:
We will attack you on your support of Bush's policies.
We will attack you on your age/senility
We will attack you on your record in the senate.
We will attack you on your divorce of your first wife.
YOu better be ready for a fight, Old man McCain.
Because we are not taking this republican shit any more!


Posted by Chicago on August 28, 2008 at 11:52 PM

I like the fact that Obama gave him a 'not so veiled threat' to "leave my wife and family alone or YOUR'S will be eviscerated--BOTH of them". Make no mistake about it, he will de-bone and fillet that POS if he OR his minions go after his family.
Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 29, 2008 at 12:22 AM

========================================

What the hell were you wack jobs smoking?

Were you talking to UFO's with Dennis?

What half wits, you watch your candidate make a speech and you have no clue what he said, what a sad bunch of losers.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 01:58 AM

Fuck off, loser.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 29, 2008 at 02:09 AM

I think Danny Boy Cactass is a security guard somewhere that starts his lonely, low paying job at midnight. That, or he is an alcoholic who is sleeping it off later and later and can't get it up until 2am.

Hi Danny

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newsjunkie on August 29, 2008 at 02:09 AM

You commie asshats must have went to truthout or mediamatters to see what Obama said, thats why you don't know.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 02:10 AM

Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 02:10 AM You commie asshats must have went to truthout or mediamatters to see what Obama said, thats why you don't know.

I agree, Dan. This is a crisis - can you call 911 - my wife's in her night gown

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dorsano on August 29, 2008 at 02:15 AM

I know daily KOOKs that's were that stupid drunk DoPeyDoodle always go s for his NEWs, ....hahahahahahahahahhaha

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 02:15 AM

Well, I just watched it again.

WOW!

Just WOW!!

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 29, 2008 at 02:16 AM

Well I'm glad Obama can count on the "short bus" vote from you people.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 02:18 AM

Damn I'm smart, Danny is an alcoholic that can only work the midnight shift as a security guard, at an old folks home, he drinks on the job and by morning goes home and sleeps it off and wakes up and does it again. He hates himself, he hates his life and it is all the democrats fault.

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newsjunkie on August 29, 2008 at 02:23 AM

Good God, Danny. Do you ever read the Sanskrit-like crapola you post here? What dialect of the English language is this gibberish?

...must have went...

...I know daily KOOKs that's were that stupid drunk DoPeyDoodle always go s for his NEWs, ....hahahahahahahahahhaha

Have some more anti-freeze, LOSER.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 29, 2008 at 02:24 AM

I did miss most of Al the Bore, I fell asleep during the part about we are all going to die,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or something about buying the Arabs A/Cs so they would cool off and not attack us?

Some thing about his mono tone drivel, always puts me to sleep.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 02:24 AM

Did you see Charles on faux said the speech wasn't that good but was "excedingly smart" duh So excedingly smart isn't very good. Only republicans think it's a virtue to be dumb, look who their candidates are.

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newsjunkie on August 29, 2008 at 02:26 AM

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo

Shut up stupid!

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 02:26 AM

DopeyDoodle,

You have too big of a mouth for a well fare bum, living off the taxpayer because your too lazy or stupid to work.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 02:29 AM

Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 02:24 AM Some thing about his mono tone drivel, always puts me to sleep.

OK, Dan - I' out - I've got better things to do tonight than you do I guess.

Sorry about that.

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dorsano on August 29, 2008 at 02:29 AM

How old are you DoPeyDoodle?

About 52, havn't worked for how long?

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 02:34 AM

let go of the hate, Sally - vote Republican after you let go - I dont' give shit - just let go of the hate - sweet dreams.

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dorsano on August 29, 2008 at 02:35 AM

Posted by dorsano on August 29, 2008 at 02:29 AM

Sorry, my turn too sit DoPeyDoodle tonight.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 02:36 AM

to not too, got to stop talking to dusty.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 02:38 AM

Danny wants to know what your wearing also, don't you danny.

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newsjunkie on August 29, 2008 at 02:38 AM

Posted by newsjunkie on August 29, 2008 at 02:23 AM

He did proclaim his occupation as "law enforcement", which could be anything from a Wal-Mart shopping cart corral emptier to, well, a Wal-Mart bag checker.

He's on the fast track.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 29, 2008 at 02:42 AM

Geggy likes momma stuff.

I saw gregy's momma down at the docks today, she had crossed out fuck and suck 75 cents and replaced it with 69 cents. She had added an additional item to her menu "buttfuck free with blowjob".

No one was queuing up that I could see.

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Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 02:45 AM

Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 02:36 Sorry, my turn too sit DoPeyDoodle tonight.

OK - just don't mess with the Cubs.

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dorsano on August 29, 2008 at 02:46 AM

Good God dosecuriy guards, at nursing homes, carry. Danny is the new poster child for gun control.

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newsjunkie on August 29, 2008 at 02:48 AM

Obama gave a great speech tonite if you agree with his premises. If you don't you weren't influenced. The American voters are not going to vote for an inexperienced asshat with only 145 days experience in the US Senate. Not gonna happen - fugidaboutit.

He will lose 60% - 40%. I got 10K that says so - any takers?

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Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 02:50 AM

G'Nite, dors & newsjunkie.

The trolls are plastered.

Obama must have really hit a nerve (obviously NOT a brain nerve) tonight.

The madder the get the more incomprehensible they get.

GOOD GOD is Danny plastered!

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 29, 2008 at 02:50 AM

Danny comes back as his alter ego gay Sally. This is getting pretty scary. Why don't you go exercise your gun rights Sally and shoot Danny.

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newsjunkie on August 29, 2008 at 02:51 AM

DoPeyDooDle,

Your former job as a lap dancer at a Mexican truck stop put you on the "fast track" to being a well fare mom.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 02:57 AM

Fewer people died in Abu Ghraib Prison than died in Teddy Kennedy's Oldsmobile.

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Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 03:00 AM

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 29, 2008 at 02:50 AM

Yes, take off little loser.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 03:02 AM

his alter ego ?

Posted by newsjunkie


From an asshat who is afraid to post under its regular blog name so it changes to junknews?

Good luck with that stupid.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 03:08 AM

During the whole Democratic Convention "Radical Islam" was never mentioned. Not once.

.

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Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 03:12 AM

Posted by Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 02:50 AM

Obama needs to fire his speech writers, they are killing him. Tonights speech was like the one in Germany, they took five speeches, layed them on a table and mixed the pages together.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 03:13 AM

Just got home from the party and had to leave this for little stevie who is probably little in more ways than one!
Sally/stevie: get a clue! At least enought of one to offer a proper retort! When you publish an article, learn to cite responsible sources. If you can't, then don't fall for the bs and post the document as if it had been verified.
Try reading a few books by P. Krugman - head of economics at Princeton or J. Stieglitz - head of economics at Columbia. Go up to the web site for the London School of Economics - the most prestigeous school on the planet and has no affiliation with any U.S. Political party. How about getting at the very least a little foundation before attempting to argue a subject. Then - at least - you will look a little less stupid!
Blog all of you Good Dems tomorrow!

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marymac_memphis on August 29, 2008 at 03:13 AM

Obama has that rare gift of being able to talk for an hour and not say anything.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 03:16 AM

Marymac has the same gift.

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Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 03:18 AM

About Kerry I said when he was leading in the polls, 'There is no way the American people are going to elect a vacuous cadaver with a hideous wife" I was correct. (Of course you will not see that when greggy, the son fagotty son of a hooker posts my predictions)

In the current election, there is no way the American people are going to elect an inexperienced, incompetent, liberal, communist ass clown in the time of war. The voters have had the good sense to reject every liberal since McGovern. Big time.

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Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 03:25 AM

Mornin Cactus!

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Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 03:26 AM

Obama has that rare gift of being able to talk for an hour and not say anything.

Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 03:16 AM

He did speak up on behalf of fags and transgendered perverts though. And I know that that is a major concern amongst the populace.

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Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 03:29 AM

Why just today a bunch of us were discussing the topic at the barber shop and we concluded that McCain is not sensitive to the issues of fags, transsexuals and other perverts. And we were disgusted.

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Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 03:31 AM

The Republicans can elect a Negro. The Democrats cannot. The Republicans could rely on pulling a lot of votes from the Democrat base. The Democrat Negro has no similar base to draw from on the Republican side. Plus the Democrats lose votes from their non Negro loving rank and file.

Obama will lose 60% - 40 %.

Any one gonna take my $10K action?

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Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 03:46 AM

Obama filled the place last night with 85,000. People were three deep at times square. Thousands of people opened their doors and welcomed friends and neighbors to join us Dems last night to watch history.

McCain is having a hard time in getting 10,000 to attend his today.

Enough said.

Except.

I AM SO PROUD TO BE A DEMOCRAT!!!!!

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Kathy_from_Indiana on August 29, 2008 at 06:15 AM

xxxxxxxxx

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goodfoe on August 29, 2008 at 06:38 AM

Sally, you protest too much about gays. I suspect you are gay and don't want to admit it because you are afraid your fellow "Christians", Repugs, will impale you and burn you at the stake. Your fears are overblown, you can always join the LogCabin Republicans and feel right at home. Why don't you come out of the closet that way and then you can post openly on the LogCabin blog.

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goodfoe on August 29, 2008 at 06:56 AM

Sally, you protest too much about gays. I suspect you are gay and don't want to admit it because you are afraid your fellow "Christians", Repugs, will impale you and burn you at the stake. Your fears are overblown, you can always join the LogCabin Republicans and feel right at home. Why don't you come out of the closet that way and then you can post openly on the LogCabin blog.

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goodfoe on August 29, 2008 at 06:57 AM

xx

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goodfoe on August 29, 2008 at 07:59 AM

Posted by Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 03:46 AM

It won't be just the democrats that elect Obama. November 5, 2008 a "negro" will be elected President of the United States. On January 20, 2009 YOU shall call him Mr. President.

So it is written, so it shall be.


The following will be the last time I address you.

Being pious has nothing to do with it, it's called FAITH.

No wonder you fit in with the repugs, you keep typing that I pray for bastards, when I said I prayed the prayer of Jabez.

"Jabez called on the God of Israel, saying, 'Oh that Thou would bless me indeed, and enlarge my coast [territory], and that Thine hand might be with me, and that Thou would keep me from evil, that it may not grieve me!' And God granted him that which he requested." 1 Chron 4:10

and God answered with a blessing of children. You should concern yourself with your own child who is fatherless and not my most beloved and cherished daughters and grandchildren. You and your trolly friends take answered prayer and make it a sin. Oh yeah, I've also been given more responsibility in my career! and we are going to buy another home soon too!

There are many children who were born out of wedlock in the bible that had they not been born, there would be no Christ.

You will stand before the judgment seat of God Almighty, and you SHALL be judged by the measure you have used against others.

Get some help for your mental condition before it's too late. You are nothing but a worhtless clang when you speak.

Even the dust of your town that sticks to our feet we wipe off against you.
Yet be sure of this: The kingdom of God is near.
Luke 10:11

Now, I am done with you.


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Esmeralda on August 29, 2008 at 08:06 AM

Morning Kathy and JohnBoy,

They not only had 75,000 at Obama's Mile High Statium speech last night but ABC reports that there were 84,000.

People are stoked and ready to kick neocon ass.

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Johne on August 29, 2008 at 08:10 AM

MSNBC reported last night that mcasshole is trying for 10,000 but no one wants tickets to see this lame SOB with the same damn hate America attitude.

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Johne on August 29, 2008 at 08:12 AM

Good Morning Essie, well said! If I understand correctly, you have had a promotion! Congratulations!....John Boy....

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goodfoe on August 29, 2008 at 08:19 AM

Good Morning JohnE...I hope we stomp the doddering old man like a grape at a wine fest. I have waited and waited to see this and now the time is close!

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goodfoe on August 29, 2008 at 08:22 AM

good morning friends. a great day for democrats and the future of our nation.

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gregg on August 29, 2008 at 08:24 AM

Morning Essie,

Last night MSNBC reported that bush was cancelling his speech at the neocon convention because of a second Katrina. Later I think they said that the convention will be postponed entirely.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It appears that Dobson's prayer for rain on the Democratic Convention is forcing the cancellation of the neocon convention. They need to watch out, they may get what they pray for thrown back in their ugly, lying, hateful faces.

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Johne on August 29, 2008 at 08:25 AM

The whole lot of them need to be tried for war crimes and spend the rest of their miserable lives in prison.

They will also pay in hell.

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Johne on August 29, 2008 at 08:26 AM

xx...my last post to JohnE seems to have disappeared.

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goodfoe on August 29, 2008 at 08:26 AM

Good morning, johnboy and everyone else.

Our company suggested we get a day off before Labor day, because we will need to work, work, work from after that date until the election.

It's wonderful to be home and enjoy a long weekend. We have a Democratic Executive bahama mama dinner tonight, so the weekend is starting off great!


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Esmeralda on August 29, 2008 at 08:27 AM

The talking heads on msnbc/cnn keep crossing potential repug vp candidates off the list...mcinsane is in Dayton, OH, maybe its JKenneth blackwell. hahaha

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Esmeralda on August 29, 2008 at 08:29 AM

Even the dust of your town that sticks to our feet we wipe off against you.
Yet be sure of this: The kingdom of God is near.
Luke 10:11

Posted by Esmeralda on August 29, 2008 at 08:06 AM

You are right on. It appears that Luke was right. God will punish them all. He knows who they are. They will not be able to escape to dubai or paraguay because God will find them and punish them.

Keep the faith.

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Johne on August 29, 2008 at 08:30 AM

Morning gregg,

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Johne on August 29, 2008 at 08:33 AM

savage was taken off our clear channel radio station on Albuquerque. Hurrah.

The only problem is they replaced him with another flaming jackass neocon. These people just don't get it. I listened long enough to hear two callers saying that they were voting for Obama and to hell with the neocons.

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Johne on August 29, 2008 at 08:35 AM

All the jerks like hannity and limbaugh are going to have a hissy fit today. I can't wait. They will throw themselves on the floor and hold their breath until they turn blue.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

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Johne on August 29, 2008 at 08:38 AM

Well said Esmerald - johne and good -it's such a bright good morning!!!!

Just got an email that Obama and Biden will be in BattleCreek on Sunday. I'm trying to see if we can get a bus or something to take there. I want to see our next President dn Vice-President!

Wow - I'm having a hard time coming down from last night. What an evening and what a man that Obama is. What a great leader. The Dems could not have picked a better person to take our country back.

You know - I look at John McCain and I feel a little sorry for him. In fact, during last night when they would pan the crowds and crowds of people I told my husband, "do you think that the Republicans are saying at this moment - oh shiiiitttttt?" :\

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Kathy_from_Indiana on August 29, 2008 at 08:46 AM

guess the focus on the family praying for rain of biblical proportions to hit denver went unanswered...

Posted by gregg on August 28, 2008 at 11:36 PM
It was a joke dumbass.

Sheesh liberals have no sense of humor at all.Posted by Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 12:38 AM
You better give up on your attempts at humor. You are never funny because you have no sense of humor. That is a trait amongst a majority of liberals.
Posted by Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 12:50 AM

ahahahahahaha, this from a guy (?) who posts 11 year old crapola? A guy who THINKS he is funny, but is anything but? Your Father is rolling over in his grave, at your attempts !!

here, maybe you can get some new material from one of these.


http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=Edward+Thornberg


they are selling higher than an Ann coulter book right now!

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PamB on August 29, 2008 at 08:46 AM
All the jerks like hannity and limbaugh are going to have a hissy fit today. I can't wait. They will throw themselves on the floor and hold their breath until they turn blue. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Posted by Johne on August 29, 2008 at 08:38 AM

At least they're turning the correct color!

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Kathy_from_Indiana on August 29, 2008 at 08:50 AM

This new talk show host last night had a caller who said that people are really suffering without jobs and that the economy is really bad.

This new host replied "I thinK the economy is just great." "There are more new millionairs in the last 8 years that ever before."

DUH. Do you believe this? These losers just don't get it.

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Johne on August 29, 2008 at 08:53 AM

Here's another one on global Warming! Funny, not a word on how we are in Global Cooling right now! Sally couldn't be wrong, could she?????
:)

notice the source, notice the Researching sources!


Alaska: Climate-Change Frontier
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by: Moises Velasquez-Manoff, The Christian Science Monitor

Northern sea ice cover reached a record low in 2007.
Melting glaciers, drier wetlands, warmer winters in Alaska, where global warming is felt most keenly.

Seward, Alaska - On the approach to Exit Glacier in southeastern Alaska, wooden signs mark nearly 200 years of the ice's retreat. They begin at 1815, about a mile and a half from the ice's current terminus. That was the end of a several centuries-long cold spell known as the Little Ice Age. Since then, the bluish ice has receded up the valley at an average rate of 13 meters per year.

The world is warming. Average global temperatures have increased by 1.36 degrees F. since the 19th century, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. In the past 50 years, the rate of warming has nearly doubled. The warming trend is even more pronounced at high latitudes. Temperatures in Alaska have risen 3.6 degrees F. in the past half-century. The warmer conditions are changing marine and terrestrial ecosystems and forcing human communities to adapt as well.

"What's happening with climate change - it's not speculation," says Colleen Swan, a tribal administrator of Kivalina, a 399-person Inupiat community on the Chukchi Sea. "It's our reality."

Alaskan glaciers are thinning at a rate of 1.8 meters yearly, according to laser measurements taken from aircraft.

"We're measuring almost a doubling in the rate of mass loss over the last decade," says Anthony Arendt, a postdoctoral fellow at the National Aeronautics and Space Administration's Goddard Space Flight Center.

http://www.truthout.org/article/alaska-climate-change-frontier

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PamB on August 29, 2008 at 08:53 AM

Interesting, the MSM are now saying that McCain's temper might be an issue.

Let's see, we've been saying that for a few months now.

I think we really need to explore and bring it to the forefront. Let's just see what sort of temper McCreep really has.

Let's see what reporter will get to him and record him exploding.... I'm loving it!

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Kathy_from_Indiana on August 29, 2008 at 08:57 AM

xx

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goodfoe on August 29, 2008 at 09:01 AM

BBL, have a nice day all!

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goodfoe on August 29, 2008 at 09:05 AM

good morning johnh and pam and esmeralda and kathy, feeling pretty good today. must get in touch with my congresswoman's campaign and start working for her.

realclearpolitics thinks mcsame will pick the governor of alaska for vp....would be an interesting choice and show some creativity...might have a little trouble in the debate with biden though...

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gregg on August 29, 2008 at 09:05 AM

BBL, have a nice day all!

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goodfoe on August 29, 2008 at 09:06 AM

He will lose 60% - 40%. I got 10K that says so - any takers?
Posted by Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 02:50 AM

don't fall for it, folks. Stevie boy does not have 10,000 pennies to his name. This is the guy who went bankrupt more than once, in an effort to cheat customers and people he owed money to. This is a guy who BRAGGED how he represented himself in divorce court, and got out of paying Child Support!

Fewer people died in Abu Ghraib Prison than died in Teddy Kennedy's Oldsmobile.
Here's a guy who has a Past criminal history casting stones at one of the greatest Statesman of the US history.

Here's a little sample out of the US vs Steve Thornberg court case:

Mail fraud, for carrying out a scheme to defraud the companies' creditors and customers. They defendant companies, which sold grain-processing equipment would buy their inventory and advertising on credit, without intending to pay for them, and then would sell the equipment to customers, requiring payment in cash before delivery. Much of the merchandise would be delivered late or in bad condition. As part of the scheme, when disgruntled creditors and customers made complaints or threats, the defendants would stave them off either by falsely promising to rectify the problem or by threatening them with legal action for interfering with business relations or reputation. When the heat on a particular company got too great, the defendant would seek bankruptcy protection or otherwise cease doing business as that company, and incorporate a new company to repeat the cycle
.


Now what kind of credibility should we give this POS with his sick posts about Democrats? hmmmmmm, Nada I think!

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PamB on August 29, 2008 at 09:11 AM

Let's see what reporter will get to him and record him exploding.... I'm loving it!Posted by Kathy_from_Indiana on August 29, 2008 at 08:57 AM

couldn't have come out during a better time either, while yesterday all the internet and news had McCain's Cold, rude interview on his plane with I think it was the TIME reporter! I posted it yesterday somewhere up above. He did not want especially to discuss what HONOR meant !

I got a kick out of the fact he put together a quickie ad last night, to say "good job" to Obama. Trying to make it look like he was some kind of magnanimous person, while you KNOW he had to change those undies he was wearing during that speech! "You Are Not the Only One John McCain, who puts Country first"!!!!

I loved the entire speech. I watched the post speech on MSNBC. Switched back and forth with C-Span who was taking calls. Many saying that speech did it for them. They were now convinced to vote for Obama! Tried to get through, of course to no avail!

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PamB on August 29, 2008 at 09:19 AM

daggone this thing!

anyway, I hope the repugs get lieberman.

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Esmeralda on August 29, 2008 at 09:20 AM

Now WHY would the US not want these records released? Could it be they were torturing innocent people and don't want it known? If they do not think there is anything wrong with torturing and cutting a man's penis, why should they care??


US Warning to Court in Alleged Torture Case
by: Duncan Campbell, The Guardian UK



The US State Department yesterday warned that disclosure of secret information in the case of a British resident said to have been tortured before he was sent to Guantanamo Bay would cause "serious and lasting damage" to security relations between the countries.

Stephen Mathias, a legal adviser to the department, also claimed that the "national security of the UK" would be affected by disclosure of the details of the detention and interrogation of Binyam Mohamed, 30, who is accused of conspiring with al-Qaida.

Lawyers for the Ethiopian national have been arguing in the high court that they should have access to details of his interrogation from the time he was detained in 2002 until he was taken to Guantanamo Bay - where he is still held - in 2004. Mohamed claims that he was tortured by, among other methods, having his penis cut with a razor blade. (Is there not a male out there shivering at this description?)


http://www.truthout.org/article/us-warns-uk-against-releasing-information-torture-case

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PamB on August 29, 2008 at 09:22 AM

the repugs are all wailing and gnashing their teeth saying Sen. Obama is a "rock/movie star" when their model President is Reagan. hahaha

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Esmeralda on August 29, 2008 at 09:25 AM

anyway, I hope the repugs get lieberman. Posted by Esmeralda on August 29, 2008 at 09:20 AM


OMG, I am praying and praying they are stupid enough to take Lieberman! He won't carry THIS his own state, that is for sure! Polls show if the election were held again, Lamont would win BIG TIME> People here, Dems, Repugs, Independents now realize what a shallow, Chicken Hawk Lieberman really is !

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PamB on August 29, 2008 at 09:27 AM

bbl,

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PamB on August 29, 2008 at 09:28 AM

Good morning, all.

Obama's Speech Lures Some Fence-Sitters as Others Await McCain

Heidi Przybyla Fri Aug 29

Aug. 29 (Bloomberg) -- Barack Obama's speech last night left Janell Mader, a 32-year-old lifelong Republican, ``a little overwhelmed'' -- and likely to vote for him in November...

Why are so many Republicans undecided and evn considering a Democrat? Why are they sitting on the fence if McCain says things are pretty good.

Not be be unmatched, are you watching "Morning Joe" this morning? The Republican pundits are in complete disarray and panic mode. They're jumping around trying to build "some" drama for McCain's selection...and failing miserably. Every red herring they are throwing out is still not exciting...or qualified to be a dog catcher.

And now Peggy Noonan went where all arrogant, unfeeling Republicans always go....she compared Obama's concern for the Middle Class to the parents of that poor Indian child born with two heads who they had to take home to die (because they couldn't afford the medical care needed).

Noonan said Obama has exploited those whinning Americans just like those parents "used him (their son) as a bowling ball". What a bitch.

These people are not only out-of-touch...they are so incredibly mean and nasty (just like McCain). They shouldn't be allowed to spout their hate of mankind in public that way...unless it's on Fox.

No wonder Republicans are undecided. A lot of them are Middle Class and Peggy Noonan and McCain are treating their worries and anxiety like chopped liver...an opportunity to make sick jokes about tragic situations.

Joe Scarborough has retreated to the position that Obama is not a Muslim; he's still a socialist....he'll raise your taxes because he actually is "so weak" that he might try to help people.

My question is: After 30 years of implementing the Reagan Revolution and witnessing it's disastorous effects on every segment of our lives, do these GOP pundits think Americans even know what socialism is...or care?

No wonder Bob Barr got out of that GOP nuthouse.

A soaring national debt, the gutting of the Constitution, the insistence that an unnecessary war must go on forever, the FDIC borrowing money, legalized torture, the price of oil quadrupled, one recession morphing into stagflation....

Republicans can't see reality even though they have seen the numbers. They really believe that their own citizens are whinning about "nothing."

Joe and Peggy are the 21st century version of Louie and Marie Antionnette. "Let them use their sick children as bowling balls."

Goodness gracious. They're spinning like tops this morning. Now the Republican panel are all lamenting that Jeb Bush was not the one who became president....the last eight years would have been so different?

Jeb Bush of the PNAC? Hahaha. Well, at least they are finally throwing Spunky under the bus....where most Americans (even Republicans) would like to see him.

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SandyH on August 29, 2008 at 09:44 AM

well, well, looks like it will be Ridge who is the VP nominee, but no one appears to give a damn on the TV! They STILL cannot find enough people who will take a ticket to that rally he is throwing to announce the VP!

hahahahahahaha

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PamB on August 29, 2008 at 09:45 AM

hmmmm, now CNN speculating it might be Sarah Palin !Yup, that sounds right. Choose a woman, in hopes that all the Hillary Supporters will drift over to McSame because of that! what a Laugh!

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PamB on August 29, 2008 at 09:55 AM

post to read

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Esmeralda on August 29, 2008 at 09:55 AM

Johne,

Funny how the pundits are no longer talking about the Democrats being divided. 84,000 on the TV screen and literally a hundred million watching at home.

Someone said this morning that those people on cell phones last night in the stadium waiting for the speech to begin got more than 30,000 new volunteers in Colorado to sign on to the Democratic bandwagon.

And the Republicans can't get 10,000 people in Ohio to attend McCain's Veep event?

Conventions are suppose to get the Base excited. This convention got the undecided excited.

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SandyH on August 29, 2008 at 09:56 AM

Goodness gracious. They're spinning like tops this morning. Now the Republican panel are all lamenting that Jeb Bush was not the one who became president....the last eight years would have been so different

LOL, Sandy. I was watching that too, and ALL because Jeb handled the hurricanes in FL, better than Georgie handled Katrina!!! What else could Jeb have done, with those Evangelical right wingers breathing down his neck, those Neo Cons like Cheney wanting War and More War so they become billionaires, etc!

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PamB on August 29, 2008 at 09:59 AM

********************************************************************** NEW THREAD ******************************************************************************************************************************************************

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Kathy_from_Indiana on August 29, 2008 at 10:02 AM

anyway, I hope the repugs get lieberman.

Posted by Esmeralda on August 29, 2008 at 09:20 AMEssie,

It's probably going to be Bobby Jendal. McCain is hoping that Gustav hits hard so he can say Jendal is a strong dependable leader...unlike any of the rest of the Republicans?

Scarborough can't pronounce Sarah Palin's name. What a wonderful choice (just like Dan Quale) that even their Republican pundits are fuzzy about.

Now the GOP pundits are saying that they resent being jerked around by the McCain camp this morning..."Are you lying to us? (Too?)

Will any of McCain's proposed choices stack up to Joe Biden? Did any of their presidential candidates stack up to Joe?

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SandyH on August 29, 2008 at 10:09 AM

Who is this woman that is Morning Joe's co-anchor. She never says anything. Talk about dead wood.

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SandyH on August 29, 2008 at 10:12 AM

Good morning, all.

Great Speech. I loved it when Obama said he was ready to debate McDickhead about being ready to be president. I can't wait for the first debate - hosted by Jim Lehrer so it will be fair and relevant - and Obama will wipe the floor with McAdulterer. I expect a huge swing after that one.

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Christopher_blunt_proud_member_of_the_VLWC on August 29, 2008 at 10:23 AM

xx

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goodfoe on August 29, 2008 at 05:32 PM

Alaska ranks the 46th smartest state, that explains why she is the govenor.

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newsjunkie on August 30, 2008 at 01:28 AM

xx

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goodfoe on August 30, 2008 at 04:02 AM

Looks like I'm alone here or no one else can get on the blog,....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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goodfoe on August 30, 2008 at 04:04 AM

Right on Marie,

I pray that the republicans are going to go down in flames this year.

What they have done to our own citizens and what mccain proposes to do to us in the future is totally unacceptable.

What they have done to our world standing and our allies is also despicable and cannot be tolerated any further.

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Johne on August 30, 2008 at 08:33 AM


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