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Looks like McSane is picking a 1st term Gov from Alaska. What's her name and who is she? All I know that she's pretty green. Hates gays and believes women shouldn't have an abortion no matter what....
If McCain chooses Sarah Palin then I guess he really wants this election to be all about HIM.
McSame still doesn't get that in a democracy elections are supposed to be about THE VOTERS. He really thinks he's Bush.
Palin just arrived by plane, only 44, femalem unknown! what's gonna happen should grampa Mcbush kick off????
WoW! What an awsome, kickbutt, hoooah speech last night! Go Obama!
If McCain really does pick Paulin to be his VP candidate, does that mean he's going to use the C word on her too?
CNN radio lies was just on. This has to be as bad as fox.
Asked about Obama's speech, they hemmed and hawed and said it was ok. Then they announced that mcasshole is in a dead heat with Obama.
Do believe these f**king lies? The FCC needs to shut them down.
Good morning Democrats! What an awesome night we had last night! Go Obama!!!!
Here is a nice resource, or forward to send to anyone undecided. It is from a DUer who has done an excellent job writing and documenting.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3873048
I stopped watching CNN this week - all they had one were people who didn't have anything positive to say about the Dems. If I wanted that horse poop, I would have watched FOX. I will never watch them again. In fact, I'm going to put a "block" on that channel - they can join FOX.
Ok so McNuts is going to pick the bitch from AK - so what does that mean to us? (I use that term because McCreep thinks it's ok to call a women that - what goes around comes around). Since she has NO experience -= does that mean that MSM and the repukes will have to drop that charge against Obama???? :)
Okay DNC, let's see the opp. research on Palin, don't hold back!
John -
First Amendment. Ever hear of it?
FCC shutting down CNN? Come on. That isn't what Democrats stand for.
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Friday, August 29, 2008
Two More Pointlets on Obama [Jay Nordlinger]
1. There were several strong speeches at this convention — Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Kerry, Biden, and Gore. All quite strong. The Dem party has some speakers. I wasn’t sure that Obama could best them, or equal them. But he bested them all — with flying colors. Not just because he was the nominee, and the Main Event. But because he did.
2. If I were a Democrat, I’d be delirious with joy. Never will they have such a candidate, and never will they have such a favorable year. [...]em>
08/29 12:49 AM
Isn't palin the one that said McCain agreed that insurance should cover birth control since they cover viagra, then when McCain was asked that question we only heard crickets?
I don't think the American women are dumb enough to fall for this republican gimmick.
McCain is anti-women's rights.
Less than a year experience? Are you kidding me? To VP for an old fart? I'm sure she has great insight into foreign policy.
I can only think that McSame bought into all the BS of MSM re: Hillary supporters. An anti abortionist who was Miss Alaska? Yeah, I'm sure we can all relate..
Guess this means that McCreep has to drop the "Obama doesn't have experience" crapola.... just what we need, an inexpereienced scoccer mom, who hates gays, doesn't support abortion rights - no matter what and will be one step from the President chair should the 73 year old croak... makes me feel real secure.
you have to wonder what kindergarden McNuts would empty out to choose his cabinet from?
oh for the love of pete
this is the DNC blog - can't we get somebody to fix this piece of shit ?
Did I need to add, "I am delirious with joy" or does it go without saying? I'll tell you one thing, I slept well last night for the first time in years. I'd only add one thing to Obama's speech. Besides saying "Enough!" to the McSame NeoCon's, we need to say "Nonsense!" when they spout their ridiculous claims.
I'm making a donation to Obama in the name of the beauty queen McSnark just named..bbl
By picking Gov. Palin, McCain is demonstrating that he would pick another Clarence Thomas -- (Black in color only, but White and dangerous for everything else).
She is not for woman's rights, she is merely window dressing to pander to those less intelligent Hillary supporters (and I hope there are none), who cannot discern that being a woman with the wrong views is like being black with the wrong views.
McCain did not pick anyone who oculd be President, but someone who would in his small mind pick up votes among ignorant voters, or those who do not know or fully understand the significance of Hillary Clinton and what she stands for or why Palin is a danger to intelligent women like Hillary.
Back - just made my donation to Obama... this is for the beauty scoccer mom queen with NO experience.....
Tawanna-
If you hit the preview button it will refresh. You have to scroll down through numerous banners. Oh well, it works better than it did.
McCain's pick of Palin shows that when he will want a black person he will pick Clarence Thomas. When he wants a woman he picks the antitheses of Hillary Clinton, someone who will undermine woman's rights. This pick shows that cCain is worse than I imagined. He has no interest in America, women rights, black rights, the economy, but in winning.
What would really be scary is if Paulin is dumb enough to consent to running with a vile tempered old jerk who continually disrespects women. It would not speak well for her self-image as a woman.
McGeezer is so transparent.... but you have to hand it to him. He'll shore up the extreme religious whacko's in this country who want put the gays back in the closet and make women subservient to their men...and to make sure that women go back the middle ages... but think about it. There will be women out there who don't have a brain who will vote for him just because there's a set of boobs beside him...
Sort of like last night, they were interviewing the crowd and they came up a gal with a fashionable mall mullet, they asked her who she was for and she said she hadn't decided yet. They then asked her if she was going to watch Obama's speech later and she relied - no...
People like that make my head hurt.
LOL Kathy- people with mullets make my head hurt. :)
Leaving town again, gotta go.
Which reminds me, Go Obama!
Man these Pugs are even more ignorant then i thought, do they really think that the American people is going to vote for this ticket, with McNuts ready to keel over at any time. And a inexperienced mother of 5 children to take care of. How could she run the country? I raised 5 children my self, and i can tell you from experience its a full time job alone. This confirms that McNuts is several bricks short of a full load. Jeez We'll i would like to say, thanks McNuts, from the bottom of my heart, for icing it for us. I knew he was senile from the start.
Isn't it interesting how the media can shape political thinking? Even on the internet. One small example: on Google's news page, out of 2,879 possible sources concerning Obama's speech, they choose to highlight this one:
USA Today
News Analysis In Speech, Bringing Lofty Words Down to Earth
New York Times - 39 minutes ago
Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his wife, Jill, with Senator Barack Obama and his wife, Michelle, faced a crowd of nearly 80000 people on Thursday night at Invesco Field in Denver.
You've got to ask yourself, why not this one:
Soaring speech from Obama, plus some specifics
Christian Science Monitor, MA - 4 hours ago
The Democratic nominee delivers strongest case yet against McCain campaign, prods Americans to change the direction of the country ?
Or this one:
Obama Gets Serious
Wall Street Journal - 7 hours ago
The famous Greek amphitheatre didn't look all Alexander the Great if you were there. It looked instead like the big front display window at Macy's during .
Or even this one:
Obama Hails `America's Promise,' Says McCain `Doesn't Get It'
Bloomberg - 8 hours ago
By Kristin Jensen and Julianna Goldman Aug. 29 (Bloomberg) -- Barack Obama accepted the Democratic nomination for president, mixing a soaring pledge to ...
Is it because they know that many readers won't go beyond the blurbs when forming their political opinions?
You can expect a lot of rhetoric over the next weeks from Republicans about how unrealistic Obama is about what he can do for America. That's because they don't get it. It's not about what Obama can do; it's about what we can do. And we can do better than the last 8 years. Much, much better.
I wonder if the flags the repugs are waving in Dayton, OH were made in china? ;P
I doubt they were made in a Union shop in the USA.
McCain's pick of Palin shows that when he will want a black person he will pick Clarence Thomas.
Posted by WakeUpAmerica on August 29, 2008 at 11:08 AM
Wonderful! Thanks, WakeUpAmerica
This has truly been a history making 24 hrs. for the Democratic Party!!!! Not only did the first African-American accept the party's nomination for President, but the Republicans just handed the election to the Dems with their VP pick.
And inexperienced woman governor, with 5 children to take care of, from a sparsely populated state. And McNuts wants to talk about the experience of Obama. Talk about the pot coloring the kettle black.
Those in the OH crowd have signs that say, "ready to lead" they have in small print..."into the ground."
July incomes drop by largest amount in 3 yearsBy MARTIN CRUTSINGER, AP Economics Writer
WASHINGTON - Personal incomes plunged in July while consumer spending slowed significantly as the impact of billions of dollars in government rebate checks began to wane.
The Commerce Department reported Friday that personal incomes fell by 0.7 percent in July, the biggest drop in nearly three years and a far larger decline than the 0.1 percent decrease analysts expected...
So Sarah Palin is going to share the Alaskan oil pipeline tax revenues with the rest of American consumers reeling from inflation and job loses?
McClain's own supporters obviously thought that he was such a weak presidential candidate that his camp felt compelled to go out and find a conservative woman who embraces 100% of Bush's agenda instead of his 90%?
Rural conservatives males are going to vote for a woman whom their religious training tells them must be subordinate to men? Middle class working women are going to vote for a woman who also believes it?
I think a lot of woman are going to be outraged by this choice by GOP men...a woman who wants to turn back the clock and ignore all gains that have been made in the past century for gender equality? A woman who agrees whole heartedly with Bush's failed policies?
She's a breath of fresh air alright; she comes from Alaska. But, she has no idea how polluted the economic picture has become for working families in Middle America in the bottom 48 states.
McCain has chosen another out-of-touch Republican and political oddity like himself. He's effectively ceded the "experience" argument against Obama by appointing Palin.
McCain's "judgement" just became an even bigger issue with worried Americans.
Sarah Palin, the former part-time mayor of a small Alaskan town (and I mean small like 8,000 people), can take on the former head of the KGB and a new Cold War? Sarah Palin can negotiate with Arab oil shieks? Sarah Palin can strengthen the dollar and shore up the FDIC?
Rove's poll numbers in key swing states must have been just as I thought. McCain was forced to appoint a Far Right conservative trophy wife because they were deserting his Marverick ship in droves.
This couldn't be a more irresponsible choice. It flies against the wisdom of someone who says national security is the only issue this election.
McCain has failed in the first decision of his presidency...really failed.
He needs to be institutionalized not given the button to our nuclear arsenal.
bbl.
Are the Dems competent to blast Palin for being a woman for the sake of being a woman, with no rationale or reasons to justify her taking on this important position. this is McCain's first move, can the Dems play hardball the way that the Republicans played hardball on the Dems. The Dems need to blow this pick out of the ball park before ASAP if they want to win.
Posted by PamB on August 29, 2008 at 10:22 AM
Putin is going to use her as a punching bag. It's a good thing she knows something about abused women.
The population of alaska, is less then a mid size city.
What is the population of Alaska?
In: Alaska
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Answer
The population of Alaska is 626,932 as of the 2000 census.
Those in the OH crowd have signs that say, "ready to lead" they have in small print..."into the ground."
Posted by Esmeralda on August 29, 2008 at 11:35 AM
Very Good Esmeralda, and right on target.
I am seriously looking forward to the VP Debate.
Biden will chew her up and spit her out.
Dems need to play up seriously how McCain is only pandering. Palin is not qualified.
Did McCain pick the most qualified Republican woman...much less the most qualified person during a time of turmoil and uncertainty.
I don't care what she stands for. I care if she has any idea what is going on outside of Alaska?
I just came back from there on vacation. It's like an Shangrila in a dying world...completely isolated for the outside world. This woman is going to be in way over her. McCain was already in of his head.
At least Kaye Hutchinson or Christi Whitman know what the challenge is...even if they chose to ignore it.
I'm so angered with the GOP that they would place these two doorknobs in charge of my children's future. Who is he going to appoint to his war cabinet? The rest of Palin's hockey mother buddies?
How irresponsible can the Republicans get?
Happy Birthday John McCain -- complete with all 72 candles
Today, August 29, is John McCain's 72nd birthday. In the spirit of the week, we respect John McCain as a person, but don't think he should be president of the United States.
To show that there aren't any hard feelings, here are 72 candles:
iiiiii iiiiii iiiiii iiiiii iiiiii iiiiii iiiiii iiiiii iiiiii iiiiii iiiiii iiiiii
Just remember, if John McCain wins in November, he will be the oldest first-time president in the history of the United States.
Before there was television, air conditioning in automobiles, World War II, contact lenses, McDonald's, the Interstate Highway System, the space program, Astroturf, videotapes, and satellites, there was John McCain.
McGeezer is so transparent.... but you have to hand it to him. He'll shore up the extreme religious whacko's in this country who want put the gays back in the closet and make women subservient to their men... Posted by Kathy_from_Indiana on August 29, 2008 at 11:21 AM
Geez - Sandy - we think alike! I've been reading some other blogs and the cry is going up about him picking someone with no - zip - nada experience and his age... but it'll be good for the religious freaks who want women bare foot and knocked up and gays back in the closet.
I am seriously looking forward to the VP Debate. Biden will chew her up and spit her out. Dems need to play up seriously how McCain is only pandering. Palin is not qualified. Posted by TMH on August 29, 2008 at 11:50 AM
This might pose a problem with Biden - he might not be able to go after her as he would a man.....
This is the same old Pug Shit pick some one that is anti gay, anti abortion, pro gun, she's a fisherman, and a hunter. Plus to get bitter Hillary voters. But the fact is she has Nada experience. No woman could run this country with 5 children to take care of, when McNuts kicks off.
This deserves to be posted again. from 10:41 above. Click his name above for everything you need to know about Palin.
Most important----"John McCain is wrong about drilling in ANWR"! Palin, June 2008
Okay DNC, let's see the opp. research on Palin, don't hold back!
Posted by ScottGoldstein on August 29, 2008 at 10:41 AM
I am seriously looking forward to the VP Debate.
Biden will chew her up and spit her out.
Dems need to play up seriously how McCain is only pandering. Palin is not qualified.
Posted by TMH on August 29, 2008 at 11:50 AM
repugs..still reaching out to the human visceral thinking.
Will they spin him into being a bully...being mean to the pretty lady?
Don't the cheerleaders look cute at their event? rah! rah!
The population of alaska, is less then a mid size city.
What is the population of Alaska?
In: Alaska
The population of Alaska is 626,932 as of the 2000 census.
Posted by chassie on August 29, 2008 at 11:44 AM
My daughter, who had to be in Alaska for 10 months on business, is in a state of shock over this pick. Alaska is so far 'out of it". It is about 25 years behind the rest of the nation. It is made up of Eskimos, and others. The alcoholism rate there is extremely high because of the long night, and then sun when you try to sleep.
And with the latest image Ted Steven, his son, and Young have given to Alaskan Republicans, what a field day we can have with this one!
McCain thinks all of Hillary Supporters are going to flock over to him now.
Anyone who watched Obama speech last night with an open mind, with no bigotry in their hearts, and compare him and Biden to Grampy McSame and Palin, have just got to realize the difference!
(I don't agree with the first part of this, but the rest is right on.)
"No, Barack Obama did not land a knockout blow tonight. But he showed that he fully understands that the best defense is a good offense. After weeks of absorbing punishment from John McCain, Obama went on the attack.
Obama's decision to target McCain so closely was a risky strategy, but it paid off.
The contrast with past Democratic candidates such as John Kerry and Michael Dukakis could not have been starker. Obama showed that he does not conform to the image of the Democrat as wussbag by directly assailing McCain's foreign policy credentials -- specifically, his claim that he would "follow" Osama bin Laden to the "gates of hell." But why just follow? As Obama made clear, he needs to be taken out.
The Obama campaign should keep concentrating its firepower on the Bush-McCain foreign policy record. McCain isn't simply a cheerleader for the Iraq War; he helped dream it up
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-heilbrunn/obama-goes-on-the-offense_b_122276.html
Posted by Kathy_from_Indiana on August 29, 2008 at 11:56 AM
Kathy,
Sarah Palin can appoint two to four conservative Supreme Court judges....that's just about all she's qualified to do.
So it's never really been about national security with McCain. It's not about the economy with Republicans. It's about the Religious Right again and their pet projects.
The hell with the welfare of the country. Let America go down in flames because The Rapture is near. The interests of working people and the American Dream must be sacrificed for The Good People....who think that they (and they alone) are the only people of faith.
I'm sick of these selfish, self-righteous hypocrites exerting their prejudices over the rest of us. If they won't respect others, they deserve to be buried by the full weight of an angry electorate sick of living with failure after failure.
I don't think Sarah Palin will be seen as a victim if Biden grills her own her national security credentials. Americans expect all women candidates to live up to Hillary's tough standards now. Palin can't lower the bar and cry abuse.
What a pair. McCain admits he knows nothing about the economy. Palin knows nothing about national security. They're the more clueless couple since Bush/Cheney....whom they unabashedly admit they want to imitate.
Larry Kudlow, is on CNBC. pushing this woman, saying that McNuts, is sucking the oxygen out of Obama's speech last night these folks are truly crazy!
I can see the VP Debate now:
Biden: I know Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton is a freind of mine. Governor, you are no Hillary Clinton.
Bring it on!!!!
I know gregg posted this one before, but it needs repeating:
Putin Asserts Link Between US Election and Georgia WarFriday 29 August 2008
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by: Philip P. Pan and Jonathan Finer, The Washington Post
Moscow - Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said Thursday that he had reason to think U.S. personnel were in the combat zone during the recent war in Georgia, adding that if confirmed, their presence suggested "someone in the United States" provoked the conflict to help one of the candidates in the American presidential race.
http://www.truthout.org/article/putin-asserts-link-between-us-election-and-georgia-war
Just look at McNuts, he's got to read everything.
nothing in his head. Obama's got it in his head, this old fool has to read it.
McCain: What a sexist pig. He has a "trophy wife" and now he has chosen a "trophy VP". How Republican can you get???? It may be McCain's birthday, 72nd birthday, but the Dems get the gift. What a Country !!!
For those who are wondering about the investigation into Palin:
"Gov. Sarah Palin's own legislature launched a $100,000 investigation earlier this month, as the Associated Press reported, "to determine if Palin dismissed Alaska's public safety commissioner because he would not fire (a state) trooper, Mike Wooten. Wooten went through a messy divorce from Palin's sister. Palin has denied the commissioner's dismissal had anything to do with her former brother-in-law. And she denied orchestrating the dozens of telephone calls made by her husband and members of her administration to Wooten's bosses."
As she is clearly familiar with abuse of power for personal reasons, she should fit right in with the Bush/Cheney/McSame crowd!
I can see the VP Debate now:
Biden: I know Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton is a freind of mine. Governor, you are no Hillary Clinton.
Bring it on!!!!
Posted by TMH on August 29, 2008 at 12:22 PM
Outstanding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't the cheerleaders look cute at their event? rah! rah!
Posted by Esmeralda on August 29, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Republicans are real big on being cheerleaders for failing policies. Let's hope that Spunky shows up a the convention after all.
That photo opp of him embracing this dynamic duo will be priceless. Kind of like that one of FDR, Churcill, and Stalin?
The decline and fall of Western civilization and the American Dream has never been so clear.
Romney must be so relieved that he's not been forced to be a part of this truly embarrassing moment in American history.
I see that all of the dumpy progressive women are jumping all over Sarah Palin. I bet its because they jealous of her. A non-dumpy hottie for Vice President would be nice. Hillary didn´t have a chance and all the liberal Brunhildas are throwing fits. BWhahahahahahahahahahahahahah!
I'm so excited! it's mcinsanes bd and palins anniversary. she's pulling out all the punches! husband is union man, son off to war.
Don't the cheerleaders look cute at their event? rah! rah!
Posted by Esmeralda on August 29, 2008 at 12:05 PM
We'll Esmeralda, the truth of it is, the pugs rented buses, in next door states, and brought them to this event in dayton, ohio. They could'nt fill up the place without busing them in.
forget about biden debating her, I say put her up against Michelle Obama! haha
Posted by chassie on August 29, 2008 at 12:34 PM
hiya, chassie. you're talking to a native OH gal. I know a few people who are standing in the front row of mcinsanes event.
We'll Esmeralda, the truth of it is, the pugs rented buses, in next door states, and brought them to this event in dayton, ohio. They could'nt fill up the place without busing them in.
Posted by chassie on August 29, 2008 at 12:34 PM
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They will do the same thing, for their convention.
Don't you love the beehive?
Palin reminds me of some of the Republican women I've worked with on the PTA. They are lovely people without a care in the world. They dabble in politics because they don't feel qualified to pursue a working career and it would get in the way of their family life.
Bin Lauden must rolling on the cave floor laughing.
At least she admits that McCain had a long list of qualified people...and she thanks her lucky stars that McCain was demented enough to chose her instead. It's going to be such a grand adventure.
They are chanting USA. How nice. They just don't care what happens to it.
Posted by neo_con on August 29, 2008 at 12:33 PM
give me a break!
why don't you brag about her accomplishments...like how she baked the best cookies for the pta meeting.
all she is is window dressing for an old man with failed policies.
This pick shows two things, Rove thinks there are more women that vote based on gender than there are sexists in the republican voting public. He also sees that he has been defined as bush and somehow this pick is supposed to show he is not. Romney would have been better, he must be pissed.
I know a few people who are standing in the front row of mcinsanes event.
Posted by Esmeralda on August 29, 2008 at 12:37 PM
Esmeralda, are you trying to convert these people, as Ohio is a really important state. Or are they hopeless? How do you think Ohio will go this time? Do you think that there will be any cheating with the machines?
she's leaving her family and her state to campaign.
oh my goodness! she is on a cause!
chassie, please don't get me on the machines! hahaha
I've worked for the democratic party my whole adult life and have been very involved in a few (one very high profile here in OH) campaigns.
I'm now in a position that I can't address publically like I have in the past. I'm not putting you off, so I hope you can try to understand.
Ohio voters in the rural areas are VERY conservative. I lean that way, a moderate if you will. (I'm in the hills of SE OH) it's my culture and I have no plans to be something I'm not.
How Ohio goes will depend on who visits where. Our Governor, Ted Strickland, has a secret weapon, they live all along the WV border.
Posted by Esmeralda on August 29, 2008 at 12:40 PM
Well Essie/ jacqui, I think don´t think sarah Palin has to be ashamed of the fact that she might have baked cookies for the pta, whats wrong with that anyway; its alot better than aborting babies by a long shot. Plus, she don´t have what Hillary(LOSER) has:
Dead Men Don't Talk
The following is a list of dead people connected with Bill Clinton:
-James McDougal Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
-Vince Foster Former White House councelor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
-Ron Brown Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investi-gation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
-C. Victor Raiser II - & - Montgomery Raiser Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
-Paul Tulley Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".
-Ed Willey Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
-Jerry Parks Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
-James Bunch Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people containing names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
-James Wilson Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
-Kathy Ferguson Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson died in May 1994 was found dead in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she was going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
-Bill Shelton Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the gravesite of his fiancee.
-Gandy Baugh Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
-Florence Martin Accountant sub-contractor for the CIA related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Died of three gunshot wounds.
-Suzanne Coleman Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
-Paula Grober Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
-Danny Casolaro Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparent suicide in the middle of his investigation.
-Paul Wilcher Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
-Jon Parnell Walker Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993 Was investigating Morgan Guarantee scandal.
-Barbara Wise Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
-Charles Meissner Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
-Dr. Stanley Heard Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.
-Barry Seal Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, Death was no accident.
-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. Mechanic, found a check made out to Clinton in the trunk of a car left in his repair shop. Died when his car hit a utility pole.
-Stanley Huggins Suicide. Investigated Madison Guarantee. His report was never released.
-Hershell Friday Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.
-Kevin Ives & Don Henry Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. Controversial case where initial report of death was due to falling asleep on railroad track. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING SIX PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
- Keith Coney Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck July, 1988.
- Keith McMaskle Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
- Gregory Collins Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
-Jeff Rhodes He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
-James Milan Found decapitated. Coroner ruled death due to natural causes.
-Jordan Kettleson Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
-Richard Winters Was a suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. Was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
Major William S. Barkley Jr.
Captain Scott J. Reynolds
Sgt. Brian Hanley
Sgt. Tim Sabel
Major General William Robertson
Col. William Densberger
Col. Robert Kelly
Spec. Gary Rhodes
Steve Willis
Robert Williams
Conway LeBleu
Todd McKeehan
I'm now in a position that I can't address publically like I have in the past. I'm not putting you off, so I hope you can try to understand.
Posted by Esmeralda on August 29, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Esmeralda, i understand completely, thanks for your response. But i think that this choice put the iceing on the cake for us.
God bless you and yours, Esmeralda:
Posted by TMH on August 29, 2008 at 12:22 PM
TMH,
Hey, that's the comparison the Far Right wants Biden to make. They still hate Hillary for being the responsible one and standing up to save her marriage. She was suppose to divorce him and retreat like a wounded, weak female.
Democrats should never be allowed to be seen as people of faith in the eyes of the public.
Rove 101
Do you realize that this idiot woman has just unleashed the full wrath of Bill Clinton and his political machine by saying Hillary worked so hard...so she, Sarah Palin, could become Vice President.
He's going to go out in those rural areas of Ohio and Pennsylvania (hell, the rural areas of West Virginia...and Alaska) and campaign for Obama like he never did for himself. Nobody insults and belittles his wife's hard-fought triumph.
So John McCain wants us to roll the dice and gamble away the future of this country when we are at our weakest point since the Great Depression and Hitler?
Lord help, Palin, as she goes out on the road and has to cross paths with any of the HillRaisers.
I might be wrong, but didn't the Democrats run a woman as Vice President already...like maybe 30 years ago. What's so unique about Palin's candidacy?
I'm sure sally* is delighted by this choice and will now change his mind and vote for McCain with complete confidence. haha.
I would have felt more threatened with a Romney pick because of Michigan and he has enough experience to run the country. I didn't say well or in the peoples interest, but he could have run it the same as bush and mccain.
Posted by neo_con on August 29, 2008 at 12:55 PM
you have not been given the privilege of addressing me by my real name.
as far as your abortion/pta comment, you are as baked as the cookies.
Mondale-Ferraro
Clinton-Lewinsky
McCain-Palin.
Not a very good history of success.
So it's never really been about national security with McCain. It's not about the economy with Republicans. It's about the Religious Right again and their pet projects
Sandy, I have read in more than one book about the Right Wing extremists, that all they REALLY want to do, is to get that Supreme Court and all the other courts in the land, packed with right wing zealots, who will turn this country around and back 100 years as far as Women and Minority rights go! It is not just Roe v Wade they want to get rid of. It is many other things, too.
And THAT is why, whether the Hillary Supporters like him or not-----They Must hold their nose if necessary and fill in that Democratic Dot! For no other reason that this one!
These are LIFETIME appointments, which mean guys like Roberts and Alito , etc are going to be around for a long, long time! Look at what they have done so far!
Posted by Esmeralda on August 29, 2008 at 01:08 PM
Whats wrong with baking cookies for the pta meetings?
hiya, sandy. i was thinking the same thing!
and her comment about Sen. John Glenn! There will be ads/campaigning for DEMOCRATIC candidates by Sen. Glenn.
Matt - we need a house cleaning - get rid of the scum please..........
Her voice is annoying. What a turn off that shrieking voice is. She sounds like she's a highschooler and I can tell it's already getting on Johhies nerves. Should of heard her speak first you neanderthals.
The following is a list of dead Americans associated with the acts of George W. Bush:
Operation Iraqi Freedom: U.S. Fatalities
Jay Thomas Aubin, 36, Marine Major, Mar 21, 2003 Waterville, Maine
Ryan Anthony Beaupre, 30, Marine Captain, Mar 21, 2003 Bloomington, Illinois
Therrel Shane Childers, 30, Marine 2nd Lieutenant, Mar 21, 2003 Harrison Co., Mississippi
Jose Antonio Gutierrez, 22, Marine Lance Corporal, Mar 21, 2003 Guatemala City, Guatemala
Brian Matthew Kennedy, 25, Marine Corporal, Mar 21, 2003 Houston, Texas
Kendall Damon Waters-Bey, 29, Marine Staff Sergeant, Mar 21, 2003 Baltimore, Maryland
Brandon Scott Tobler, 19, Army Reserve Specialist, Mar 22, 2003 Portland, Oregon
Eric James Orlowski, 26, Marine Lance Corporal, Mar 22, 2003 Buffalo, New York
Thomas Mullen Adams, 27, Navy Lieutenant, Mar 22, 2003 La Mesa, California
She is younger, she is a babe, she is a conservative from a common sense state.
McCain has done the right thing - he has my vote now!
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
Today in History 1982 Al "Global Warming" Gore gets huffy, refuses to discuss it when Cleveland (Ohio, DUH) makes the record books with the lowest temperature ever recorded in August (38F).
Rove 101
Do you realize that this idiot woman has just unleashed the full wrath of Bill Clinton and his political machine by saying Hillary worked so hard...so she, Sarah Palin, could become Vice President.
Posted by SandyH on August 29, 2008 at 12:59 PM
You are exactly right SandyH, the Hillary people will be working twice as hard now. Thats great, this election is almost just to easy. HEE HEE>
Before there was television, air conditioning in automobiles, World War II, contact lenses, McDonald's, the Interstate Highway System, the space program, Astroturf, videotapes, and satellites, there was John McCain.
http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/election08/312
Posted by PamB on August 29, 2008 at 11:51 AM
Before there was television, air conditioning in automobiles, World War II, contact lenses, McDonald's, the Interstate Highway System, the space program, Astroturf, videotapes, and satellites, there was Pam B.
Essie,
She certainly will reign in the Religious Right... but at the risk of alienating all the male chauvinist pigs that make up the rest of the Republican Base.
Are seniors going to to feel comfortable putting their security in the hands of a woman gadfly when they remember the strong WACs from WW II? This woman is presuming a hell of a lot.
McCain has found a way to frighten a whole generation he had in his pocket...as well as insult a huge chunk of his own Base with this choice. Could this twit make a black man seem a much stronger candidate?
Her story line may be appealing, but there is no way this person can live up the challenges she has no idea exist...just like McCain.
Unbelievable. The experience and judgment questions have now completely been reversed by McCain's own hand...and this after that speech last night where Obama looked so mature and in command?
Let's see how Palin defines her capabilities?
bbl.
would have felt more threatened with a Romney pick because of Michigan and he has enough experience to run the country. I didn't say well or in the peoples interest, but he could have run it the same as bush and mccain. Posted by newsjunkie on August 29, 2008 at 01:03 PM
Yep - me too! The only thing that bothers me is that she is such an unknown. I mean who the hell is she anyway??? So, having said that, we need to start poring over her records - get everything we know on the blog here for everyone to read up on. Let's educate ourselves so we know how to handle suck an unknown!
I already had a co-worker dumbass repuke come smiling and excitedly up to me and say - isn't this exciting? I looked at her and said who the hell is that? Then I said - we tried that 30 years ago - it didn't get us very far becasue Mondale was a losing candidate like McNuts is.
She walked away saying that I could go to hell....ummm must have hit a nerve... me thinks the repukes are a little gun shy this morning after watching the huge crowd last night for Obama.
Posted by BlueinIdaho on August 29, 2008 at 01:18 PM
Blogging again on company time? Don´t you have some Insurance cases to take care of?
Contrary to what has been posted, Palin was the best choice McCain could have made. She poses a real threat to our chances in Nov. If you step back and look at what she has accomplished in 44 years, you cant help but get nervous about Nov.
She is bright, articulate, fairly decent looking, and a political maverick who bucked her own party and ours. She seemingly always comes out on top (even agaisnt much better foes).
The only plus she brings to our side is that she takes away McCain's argument about Obama's lack of experience (although McCain will make the distinction that she is the VP candidate and that her position as gov gives her more experience that Obama). This pick was not good for dems.
I am just surprised that he had the balls/intelligence to choose her.
Posted by chassie on August 29, 2008 at 01:23 PM
Never easy, chassie. We now have re-double our efforts to find Democratic votes and make sure they are cast. Don't ever underestimate the other side. Let's concentrate on our Base. The Independents were already alarmed and must be stroked as well.
The population of Alaska is about the same as the population of Delaware.
I wonder if her husband will be staying home to raise the kids or if he'll have to go with her on the trail?
hahaha
Do you realize that this idiot woman has just unleashed the full wrath of Bill Clinton and his political machinePosted by SandyH on August 29, 2008 at 12:59 PM
The full wrath of Bill Clinton; ahhhhhhhh who´s that? Oh you mean SLICKWILLY! The dude that thinks with the wrong head.
I wonder if her husband will be staying home to raise the kids or if he'll have to go with her on the trail?
hahaha
Posted by Esmeralda on August 29, 2008 at 01:30 PM
A lib wouldn´t have 5 kids. They would have all been aborted, or else they´d be a bunch of little welfare bastards.
Hey....Last night was the most inspirational night that the Dmeocratic Party has had in decades. It was absolutely effin brilliant.
Close race???? Brahahahaha...Not on your life..but it is a very good thing psychologically for us (and I guess the dumbshit republicans) to think so....Apathy can be a bad thing and when you are kicking the shit out of your opponent, you do have a tendency to relax.
Not this time.
Palin??? Pleeeeezzz...I wouldn't be a bit surprised in Pawlenty and Romney both saw the writing on the wall and said..."well ya know, I don't really want to go down the shit shute with ya big John"....Anybody remember a failed run as a losing VP candidate on a losing ticket come back??
With Palin, she can lose, go back to Alaska and eat more moose burgers and continue to fuck around in the local scene. Not so for the other knuckleheads.
It's over....I have predicted for some time that McBomb will suffer the largest losing margin by a republican candidate in a presidential election, in the history of the republican party.
Ohhhhhhhh....that's right...it's a very tight race!!
Brahahahahahaha........
Kathy,
You cannot make the same comparison to Mondale in 84. This is a different time, different election.
Michigan is still in play with Palin as VP because of her union ties. There is also no doubt that she will draw women voters to the GOP, while shoring up McCain's conservative base.
Obama also cannot attack her inexperience becauase of his own perceived inexperience. Rove must be high fiving everybody he sees. McCains picks an unconventional vp candidate who doesn't upset his base, yet appeals to women and independent voters. This is our worst nightmare.
Posted by SandyH on August 29, 2008 at 01:24 PM
He only picked her because he thinks Americans are stupid. Hopefully, there aren't enough stupid people that believe a vagina and a POW frequent flier card qualify you for the presidency.
Ooooh, looks like I hit a nerve with the troll. Excellent!
The Obama campaign also told CNN Friday the choice of Palin takes the question of experience "off the table.""Experience is being taken off the table considering you're putting someone within a heartbeat of the presidency with the thinnest foreign policy experience in history," spokesman Bill Burton said.
Update: Rep. Rahm Emanuel, the 4th ranking House Democrat, said in a statement the choice of Palin "shows political panic."
"Is this really who the Republican Party wants to be one heartbeat away from the Presidency? Given Sarah Palin's lack of experience on every front and on nearly every issue, this Vice Presidential pick doesn't show judgment: it shows political panic," he said.
This is going to be very interesting. I hope the Obama camp will make sure that we nail McCain on this pick - rough her up and then finish the job in Novemeber.
Yep, I guess the only card that the smearmachine had against Obama, "inexperience" was just flushed down the toilet with the rest of the GOP.
bbl.
This is our worst nightmare.Posted by CRTG on August 29, 2008 at 01:39 PM
Don't think so - now Mitt might have been the worse case because he does have pull in Michigan but this gal - no way.
Give one example - just one of what she has done that we can't counter - just one - I'll wait..you've got all day..just one little thing...
Sarah will be able to ad her service as Vice President to her resume prior to assuming the Presidency if necessary. As city council member, mayor and Governor - she has much more experience than Hussein Obama.
And she was wearing a skirt not a pantsuit! I guess she is comfortable with the size of her ass.
Does she have any ties to the oil companies? Just because her husband is union doesn't mean squat because she still supports a party that would like to outlaw organized labor in this country. She passed a law to make political parties more honest - good for her. She should start with the Republican party because they sure need it. What else has she done??? Baked cookies? A little flour in the face doesn't make your presidental material - same as being a POW - doesn't make you presidental material either.
Did you notice how close McCain stood next to Palin during her speech? I guess he had to manipulate the strings on his puppet.
As was noted by others, Palin is just a gimmick.
the multi personalities have arrived. and they have their claws out.
fight like a man, you wussie.
Paulin sounds like another Republican mouthpiece in the mold of Phyllis Schafley. For the younger of us, Schafley was a Republican, the leader of the (evil) Eagle Forum, and made tens of thousands of dollars(big money back in the 70s) touring the country telling the rest of us to stay barefoot, pregnant, and vote against the Equal Rights Amendment.
So now we have another hypocritical Republican female.
Republicans haven't changed any in the last 30 years.
There has to be something wrong with a political party that attracts people like them.
Posted by Kathy_from_Indiana on August 29, 2008 at 01:49 PM
Get a life chubby, The constitution gaurantees any natural born american citizen the right to run for president. You just pissed on Abraham Lincoln with your stupid assnine post ya commie.
I see that all of the dumpy progressive women are jumping all over Sarah Palin
Posted by neo_con on August 29, 2008 at 12:33 PM
Liberal Principles are written in sand, theses old cows don't care about ERA anymore than they do about global warming or the economy or the war.
All they know is their three basics Bitch, Whine and Complain.
she has much more experience than Hussein Obama.
Posted by Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 01:46 PM
Man you really are stupid!!!! She's got zero experience on National Security. And would only be a heartbeat away from assuming the job. Ask yourself numbsy, is this what you fear mongers really want to protect these United States of America? Hell are Military would all just quit and go aw ow! And don't come back at me that Obama don't have any either, he already voted against Iraq, which was the right thing to to. Plus he's got Bi den, you know the one in charge of Foreign Security of these United States of America. How stupid can you be numbsy?
fight like a man, you wussie.
Posted by Esmeralda on August 29, 2008 at 01:51 PM
E/J are you having problems?
Esmeralda - he sure likes to use different names. Notice how quite it was this morning - my guess was that the troll was washing their shorts after watching Obama last night.
I'm almost snickering at this. It sort of is kind of comical about McNuts choosing the lady... I mean it does smack of panic don't you think?
Matt - we need a house cleaning - get rid of the scum please..........
Posted by Kathy_
If you want to leave, turn off your computer or do you need Matt to do it for you?
One for the road....
Dana Perino just said that Bush is pleased with McCain's choice.
Of course, he is. Now he won't appear to be the stupidest Republican presidential candidate of all time.
All they know is their three basics Bitch, Whine and Complain.Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 01:54 PM
This is exactly what repukes do when they have no fight left, nothing to talk about because they don't have any issues to discuss. It's the same as what Graham said too - when there is nothing left - pull out the "whine" card...hahahaha
Hopefully, there aren't enough stupid people that believe a vagina and a POW frequent flier card qualify you for the presidency.
The big question today is..."If you have a vagina, will you vote for someone who also has one?"
Does that fact that McPow chose a vagina as a running mate compel the disgruntled Hillary supporters to vote republican? Is that possible??
Would you vote against your own self interest due to a vagina??
Is there compelling evidence that she can bring anything but her vagina to the McPander ticket??
Are Hillary supporters Pro Life?? Do they care about the rights of their vaginas? (The Hillary supporters with vaginas that is?)
These are compelling questions. I don't have one...a vagina...so only someone with one, will be able to answer them.
kathy, he's been on here all morning. neo-con typed my real name like s* does. I'm waiting for the other one he types under to show up any minute.
And don't come back at me that Obama don't have any either, he already voted against Iraq, which was the right thing to to. Plus he's got Bi den, you know the one in charge of Foreign Security of these United States of America. How stupid can you be numbsy?
Posted by chassie on August 29, 2008 at 01:54 PM
He wasn't even in the Senate when Iraq was voted on dumbass. Duh!
Biden is the one in charge of Foreign Security of these United States of America? Geez, I thought that the President was the one in charge. One can not fail to learn something new everyday on this blog.
Hey Cactus!
Posted by chassie on August 29, 2008 at 01:54 PM
Yobama´s experience with national security is his close relationship to terrorist asshats.
clang, clang clang is the sound that cowbells make.
Don't be so quick to dismiss Palin. She has a compelling story in that she worked her way up from the grass roots level to become Governor. She did it on her own and while raising an appealing family. This is the narrative that speaks to populists.
I have a vagina. I do not like your suggestion that all women have to offer in the political arena is vagina-relevance.
neo-con typed my real name like s* does..
Posted by Esmeralda on August 29, 2008 at 02:00 PM
you have not been given the privilege of addressing me by my real name.
Posted by Esmeralda
Who the hell are you, the queen of asshats?
hahahahahahahahaaaahhahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahaahahha
I'm surprised that Esmerelda would be so quick to level catty charges at a woman who got involved at the local level and worked her way up, on her own. Isn't that what you have been encouraging others to do for years ?
The fact that she has done it in another party does not negate her worth, or diminish its feminist statement.
Watch the McCain campaign unravel, this pick is hillarious the longer it sinks in. While, barack it intelligent and thoughful, McCain tries, unsuccessfully, to copy the message of Barack Obama. No way, No how, they look weird together. Oh how charming they are heading to the city of beaver. hahahaha
Posted by Tawanna_LaShond on August 29, 2008 at 02:06 PM
Hillary also has a fat ass to offer. It was handed right back to her though.
DENVER — More than 84,000 people jammed into Invesco Field at Mile High stadium to hear Barack Obama's historic acceptance speech, city officials say.
the presumptive Republican nominee said at a Dayton, Ohio, rally of about 15,000 supporters,
and most of the 15,000 were bused in...
enough said.. eat it and wept asswipes.
Kathy,
Her first plus, that she understands working families because she comes from a working family. If I am not mistaken, she is the only non-millionaire in the race.
McCain choosing Romney would have given us one more arrow to attck McCain with (McCain chooses another millionaire as a running mate). We cant do that with Palin.
Second plus, she has consistently told her own party to F'off. She is what John McCain used to be 8 years ago when Dem's loved him.
Third plus, she promised change and then acted on her promises. She has already shaken up Alaska politics and is adored by just about everybody in the state. Hell, even the dem investigator looking into the firing has stated that subpoenas aren't needed because of her openness.
Picking her was a brilliant strategic move. Barring some skeleton we dont know about, she is going to cause us some serious headaches down the road.
With respect to the VP debate, if memory serves me correcty, there is only one debate scheduled so Biden wont get more than one chance to make her look like a fool (which could backfire).
Michigan Dave is living in fantasy land if he thinks this election will be a blow out.
neo-con
Is that supposed to mean something? Your 'fatass' statement?
Your level of political commentary is crude and disappointing.
Thank you to whoever it was that suggested I try the preview key to see the posts. It does work ! :)
Posted by neo_con on August 29, 2008 at 02:03 PM
No sense in trying to talk with numbsy's like you, you never have anything with any substance to it. Just mud slinging, fear and smear. Your I.Q. is about the same as McNuts, age or maybe less. You need to reelist in kindergarden, and start over, the first time did'nt take.
Posted by Tawanna_LaShond on August 29, 2008 at 02:13 PM
She DOES have one doesn´t she? Or is that just padding that she stuffs in those pantsuits?
If I am not mistaken, she is the only non-millionaire in the race.
Wrong from what i've read and heard Joe Biden is only worth around 200,000 give or take 25,000 or so.
With respect to the VP debate, if memory serves me correcty, there is only one debate scheduled so Biden wont get more than one chance to make her look like a fool
He won't need #2
and since you appear to be a troll - enough said to you thank you very much.
As far as my vagina is concerned. I would never vote for one just because I have one. That would be like you voting only for a penis just because you have one.. and I'm assuming that you do have one.. :)
Boy oh boy, the hens are really cackling here today.
Posted by Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 01:37 PM
Come nightfall all of the hens will be herded into the hen house where they will be safe from marauding foxes, coyotes and chicken hawks, once there, they will lay eggs.
As city council member, mayor and Governor - she has much more experience than Hussein Obama.Posted by Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 01:46 PM
I'm trying so hard to take any of what the republican party is doing seriously. What a sad day for McNasty supporters and well..you guys.
No disrespect to Alaskan's...but really..a mayor, a council member and now Governor in Alaska?? Gimme a break. Most of the time they would have been debating the installation of a new traffic signal or approving a position for someone to pick up bear shit on the sidewalk. Sorry, I meant footpath. A sidewalk would be a rare occurance....in Alaska.
She can shoot a gun and hates gays. She looks hot in a fur lined thermal jacket. She is anti abortion and will probably be a hit on the evangelical circuit. Did I mention she has a vagina?
Come to think of it...evangelicals don't like vaginas. Maybe she won't be a hit on the evangelical circuit.
Mc72 needs some eye candy. He is one nasty looking old dude. Pasty, drawn...a very unhealthy looking specimen. She will distract attention from that. Maybe that was the plan.
McCains picks an unconventional vp candidate who doesn't upset his base, yet appeals to women and independent voters. This is our worst nightmare.
Posted by CRTG on August 29, 2008 at 01:39 PM
It might be YOUR worse nightmare CR, but it is laughable! No more inexperience better come out of old numb McNuts mouth. PLUS this is woman who was Mayor of a town of 6000 first, then Gov for a year and half. CAN YOU PICTURE if McCain croaks, which is expected, as he has already outlived his father by 2 years, with her finger on the Red button????? God help us all.
Plus, she got a BS in JOURNALISM at the U. of Idaho. That's it for education! guess she missed the Sex education courses.
Any female voting for McCain, just because he has THIS woman on the ticket, is stupid enough to get what she deserves should they win!
I am a feminist. Two daughters, two granddaughters. I would love to see a Female President. JUST NOT ONE LIKE THIS ONE!
Posted by chassie on August 29, 2008 at 02:15 PM
You should try reading one of Johne´s posts, or try to decipher one of Duhsty´s little poetic works of grandure.
and most of the 15,000 were bused in...
enough said.. eat it and wept asswipes.
Posted by Kathy_from_Indiana
Illegals bussed in from the border? Well as long as there was free beer.
What I wouldn't give to be here! With BobB like in NYC ! Having trouble finding place to stay. Everything taken.
50,000 expected to protest RNC
If you thought protests outside 2008's Democratic National Convention were loud and proud, you ain't seen nothing yet. So say organizers preparing for the 2008 Republican National Convention, set to take place in St. Paul, Minnesota.
Organizers estimate 50,000 protesters are getting ready to demonstrate outside the RNC, in the largest anti-war protest planned so far this year.
"We have word that people are coming on busses and carpools, people are flying in from all over the country," said Katrina Plotz, an organizer for an RNC protest group. "We are expecting the police to uphold our right to demonstrate, to speak out against the war."
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Protestors_prepare_for_Republican_convention_0828.html
Its funny how partisan politics turns a blind eye when necessary. There have been multiple posts about her inexperience regarding foreign affairs--seems like we are forgetting our own candidate's lack of foreign affairs experience. Neither side can now claim the other side is inexperienced.
It also appears that because she is pro-life (which 40-50 percent of women are) she is anti woman and wants to return the women's rights movement to the middle ages. That is just a f'ing stupid argument. How in the world can you claim that a highly educated, successful woman who as run several business and who was elected to Alaska's highest office wants to send women's lib back to the middle ages. Aside from the abortion issue, which has little or nothing to do with women's lib, how else is she anti-womens rights.
Just because you disagree with someone's political beliefs does not mean that they don't care about women's rights.
Oh, and I meant to post this Rebuttal of the idiot's Old Old list of people who died during Clinton's administration. All FALSE
http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp
If we could only start listing the over Million dead iraqi women and Children, plus our own US troops! THAT is Bush's legacy!
Mc72 needs some eye candy. He is one nasty looking old dude. Pasty, drawn...a very unhealthy looking specimen. She will distract attention from that. Maybe that was the plan.
He needs something all right. Since he has no arms, and no color - the skirt along side of him will be a distraction for sure. They might need to do a voice over though. I understand that her voice isn't too pleasant.
Good afternoon, all!
Posted by neo_con on August 29, 2008 at 12:55 PM
Oh, for God's sake, Thumbass! That old chestnut again?
Tell me this, how can someone who "committed suicide" in 1992, because of the Clintons come back to life so he could "commit suicide" because of Obama in 2004? Don't you think that would be a story meriting an email?
The">http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp">The Clinton Body Count -- NOT TRUE!
Idiots, all of these trolls!
Posted by PamB on August 29, 2008 at 12:11 PM
I bet there are more alcoholics, drug addicts, faggots and perverts in CT than there is in Alaska. Even on a percentage basis.
reading about her family bizz with the brother in law tasering the step son cause he asked him to, everybody eating moose burgers and trying to fire their relatives from gument jobs and so on i figure this will be the new repelican campaign tune..
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4924085173349496686
Oh Shit, I have to miss seeing this??????
hahahahahaha. Those MN Dems have quite a sense of humor !
We need pictures like this one all over the US prior to the election !!!!
Minnesota Dems welcome RNC delegates with McCain embracing Bush
Bush, the sitting, mostly despised president, embracing Sen. McCain, his hopeful successor. Does that look like change to you?
That's what St. Paul, Minnesota Democrats have been pasting up on area billboards in anticipation of the GOP's delegates, arriving this weekend for the Republican National Convention.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Dems_welcome_RNC_delegates_with_billboards_0828.html
Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 29, 2008 at 02:27 PM
Hey Pauly! how´s it going out there in Cicero?
this palin woman looks a lot like elaine from seinfeld...hopefully she will be as funny....she's gonna need to be...
Kathy, just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I am a troll. So you can kiss my blue dog democrat ass.
Just because I am a democrat doesn't mean that I will ignore the obvious. You and Pam need to wake up and look at the electoral map because if you think that this choice isn't going to hurt us, you are sadly mistaken. Luckily for Obama, you two are not in charge of his campaign because based on your comments, you have no idea how to analyze or run a political campaign.
This race is going to go down to the wire. Anybody who thinks that this one isn't going to be close has no business posting on this site.
After the Sept. 26Th Presidential debate in Mississippi, and the vice president debate some time in the very first part of October. It will be all over for all you Numbsy's.
Illegals bussed in from the border? Well as long as there was free beer.
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 02:22 PM
That according to one of the left Kook web sites, Mc Cain supports Illegal's, so he must have their vote, where does that leave Obama?
No Hispanic vote and now losing the women vote, you people said he would not get the old White mans vote. He lost Florida.
Seem he only has a bunch of kiddies and a few commies to support him, cant win with that.
I feel sort of sorry for her in a way. She has probably no idea the mirco she'll be under the next few months. Every move she makes will be noticed - every little thing she says or almost says will be taken apart.
This time, we Dems are pissed off enough that no one and I mean no - not even a women will get a free pass. We've HAD ENOUGH from the republicans and 8 years of destroying this country.
Enough enough enough!
The Nielsen overnight ratings are in for yesterday's Obama speech.
(Drum roll, please...)
38 MILLION PEOPLE TUNED IN TO WATCH!
That even beat the Opening Night Ceremonies of the Olympics!
CRTG -
Posting against the accepted dogma here will absolutely get you labeled a troll. It doesn't matter how blue you are, how many doorbells you've rung, how many voter registration cards you have gotten people to fill out.
Believe me. Been there, done that.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush on Friday declared an emergency in Louisiana as Tropical Storm Gustav headed for the Gulf of Mexico on the third anniversary of Hurricane Katrina's deadly strike on New Orleans.
in a continuing effort to fix problems before they exists bush said we will withdraw our troops from iran and begin rebuilding the california coast line in case there is an earthquake some day...
could the boys be gettin a bit jumpy after they all prayed for denver rain with pastor dobson??
This race is going to go down to the wire. Anybody who thinks that this one isn't going to be close has no business posting on this site.Posted by CRTG on August 29, 2008 at 02:32 PM
you can kiss my fucking ass too - you have no business coming in here and telling us that we should be afraid - very afraid. We've been down that road before and we're not taking it any longer. You and people like you can smear all the fear you want but it's not going to work. I'm not afraid of a lady who McCain picked and I'm certainly not afraid of you. So you can sit there and type all the fear you want but it's over...no more.
Doo - I love those numbers. We need to post those every half hour.
Sorry for the out burst to the regulars - just had to let that one have it. Whew... just not going to take the fear crap anymore...
Good Dems the bad thing about what going on today, with this pick was nothing but to take the spotlight off of Obama. So it well be a 2 day headline, and then well destroy them, go out and work hard good dems, we will WIN but we can't take it for granted we got to work, just like Obama said in his speech. I'm sending in a donation to Obama and another one to the Dnc. with more to follow. And well be working hard here in s. georgia and northern florida starting tomorrow.
Chassie, I hope you are right but I saw something the other night on MSNBC about him being a millionaire (not to mention the fact that his family lives on a compound). Needless to say, best case scenario is that both of them are firmly entrenced in the middle class, something that cannot be said of Obama and McCain.
Kathy, I do have a penis. You remember what one of those looks like dont you? And no, the plastic pink penis in your top drawer is not really a penis. Maybe if you would stop being soooo critical and demeaning you would get to play with the real thing sometime.
So much for party unity. If any dem on this blog says that they are pro gun, pro life or if he or she accurately analyzes the election, they are automatically labled a republican troll.
I have never said that I agree with Palin's beliefs or McCains for that matter. All I said that he made a brilliant choice and I get blasted for being a troll. Thats ok, Geraldine agrees with me that Palin was an excellent pick for VP and she ought to know.
Hey Pauly! how´s it going out there in Cicero?
Posted by neo_con on August 29, 2008 at 02:30 PM
DoPeyDoodle was on the the blog last night remembering his days as a lap dancer in a Mexican truck stop.
Posted by Kathy_from_Indiana on August 29, 2008 at 02:18 PM
Thank you....:) You have proved my point (well to a certain extent)
The nomination of Palin is an obvious attempt to pander to...the disgruntled Hill supporters and the womens vote. You will hear lines like "Poor Hillary...she got dick and would have made the perfect VP candidate...blah, blah blah.
As hard as they try to spin it..the bottom line is a lack of experience and qualifications.
Imagine Hillary and Palin on a stage together. There is no comparison...Hillary would chew her up and spit her out.
Michigan Dave is living in fantasy land if he thinks this election will be a blow out.Posted by CRTG on August 29, 2008 at 02:11 PM
Think what you want. Polls are polls are polls. Most polls are conducted on land lines. Land lines are becoming a thing of the past. Who answers their phone anymore anyway??
If you need any crystalization of what a blow out looks like, look at the 84 or 85 thousand people that showed up last night. And that wasn't the only example of the effort, the motivation and the inspiration that Barack and the Democratic Party have brought to the american electorate. The primaries in most instances, demonstrated that the democratic party is showing up and we have doubled and tripled the effort made by republicans.
Ain't nobody talking about that...is there. Why?? Because there is a concerted effort to maintain the illusion that it is close.
Look at the numbers. That;s all you have to do.
15,000 in Dayton?? My ass. Anybody catch the shot of McHopeless gettin off the plane with the little Mrs yesterday in Dayton?? Did you see him wave to anyone?? Any throngs of supporters there to meet him on the eve of his big VP announcement??
I didn't see anybody and neither did anyone else. It's "rent a crowd" shit and that is what it will continue to be.
Just on that..the RNC convention room looks like an empty Home Depot. Fox and Friends were there this morning and they just about filled the place up.
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 02:32 PM
They plan on screaming "you cheated" "the election was stolen", what a bunch of fools.
Kathy, I do have a penis. Thats ok, Geraldine agrees with me that Palin was an excellent pick for VP and she ought to know.Posted by CRTG on August 29, 2008 at 02:41 PM
Actually I wasn't talking to you - I was addressing that statement to Dave. I could care less if you have a penis or not. You probably haven't used it for quite a while anyway.
Geraldine has sour grapes since her candidate didn't win. She should get over it and start supportign the party Comments like that are pure assine.
CRTG - McCain doesn't have the rags to riches bring yourself up by your bootstrings story so he picks Palin. She can't be pegged as another out of touch billionare, I see that. She may pick up votes because she is a woman, but will also anger hillary supporters if she uses hillary's accomplishments to propel herself. What he has traded for the above things he has lost any debate that barack isn't experienced enough. I have heard from many people that McCain is too old, there is real concern there. This pick magnifies that worry because barack has more experience than her. She is a 2 yr gov of a very small state, that 98% of the american people have never seen or visited and can't find on a map. She has no foriegn policy experience and couldn't draw a crowd of ten overseas. We do not feal threatened in the least by this choice, actually we rejoice in this choice.
So called "progressives"
You are just a bunch of Bigots under a deferent name.
The actual figure of female pro-lifers is more like 30%...
Nuf said..
Nearly 60 percent of Americans say that, if presented with an opportunity to appoint one or more new justices to the Supreme Court, President Bush should pick individuals who would uphold Roe.
The Associated Press/Ipsos-Public Affairs Poll, which surveyed a national sample of 1,000 adults last November, found that only three in 10 respondents (31 percent) favored nominating justices who would overturn Roe.
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 02:42 PM
I wonder if he got that "dreamy" look on his face as usual.
Kathy, you need to grow up. Blind hatred for the Republican party actually hurts our party. We must be able to see the good with the bad. If we cannot do that fairly and accurately, we lose. I am no more a republican than you are.
What really pisses me off is that unless I bow down to the liberal wing of the party I get blasted.
McCain chose her because she helps him get elected. This was a calculated decision made by the best minds of the Republican party. We dont have to agree or like it but we had better not ignore it.
Only a f'ing idiot would claim that this race is going to be a blow out (either way). It has nothing to do with coming here and engaging in fear mongering. If I was a troll, I would join your band wagon and claim that this race is going to be a blowout and that we dont need to worry about Palin.
Wow, looks like the VP pick has all the republican's panties in a bunch, by the look of the trolls and troll-wannabies on the blog.
If those few angry Hillary supporters still want a woman president at any cost, then McBush better keep one eye open at night. He'll be a sitting duck.
It is amazing what passes for "experience" in the Republican party. But, I guess after Bush 43 lowered the bar on competence, no telling what will pass. Maybe they can pick Michelle Malkin for Secretary of State.
I wonder if he got that "dreamy" look on his face as usual.
Posted by neo_con on August 29, 2008 at 02:54 PM
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I wonder if his Mom walked in on him later in the bathroom, its her house isn't it?
"DoPeyDoole what are you doing in here"?
I really can't wait for the RNC next week, it is always nice to compare and contrast the two conventions. In 2004 we were treated to Republicans mocking soldier's Purple Hearts -- I wonder if anyone will be in blackface on the convention floor this year?
"DoPeyDoole what are you doing in here"?
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 02:59 PM
"Ah Ma, A´m spankin the monkey"
For nearly eight years we, the American people, have wandered a shattered landscape, starving for hope and justice. In Barack Obama we see, not just a man who can lead us out of a failed Republican wilderness, we see a mirror of ourselves. A mirror that shows us our better nature, our true potential. Barack Obama shows us we are so much more than the sum of our disparate parts -- we are, together, the engine of change for a better tomorrow.
We see the best of ourselves in Barack Obama. And in that precious gift, we now see the beginning of a new, brighter day to come.
http://redstaterebels.typepad.com/redstaterebelsnet/2008/08/dnc-day-4-open.html#comment-128219630
I posted this yesterday, but i think i'll post it often.
John McCain promised a group of supporters that he will continue nominating hard-line conservative activist judges to the federal courts. In all probability, two more Supreme Court vacancies will come up during the next 4 years. With McCain in the White House, that means more justices like Alito, Roberts, Scalia and Thomas, and a hard-line right-wing Supreme Court that will be in place for a generation. The same thing will happen to the entire federal court system. That also means more decisions in favor of big corporations, and more hostility toward unions and working people, families, consumers and what is left of the middle class.
The decision we as working people make this year will affect our children and our grandchildren.
Can this nation afford a continuation of the disastrous policies of the Bush administration? Please think about that before you cast your vote.
I agree that national polls dont mean a thing, which is why I only look at the electoral map. I suggest that you go to electionprojection.com for a thorough analysis of the election.
I dont care how many people attended last night or watched the convention, the only numbers that matter are those on election day. We made the mistake 4 years ago thinking that Kerry would trounce Bush (especially after his first 4 years) and look how that turned out.
BlueinIdaho -
BlueinIdaho -
The woman from Alaska has experience at the local and state level, and to me that should not be so easily disregarded.
BY DEFINITION, a woman in politics is going to have a shorter resume than a man, simply because woman at these levels are ground-breakers. They are pioneers. Someone has to go first. Let's not diss the ones that do, please.
Let's stick to disagreeing with her on the issues. This is where she is vulnerable.
sorry for the double name thing. I don't know what happened
sheesh :)
Thanks Gonzoo but I dont need you to defend me. When this thing goes to the wire, you can bet your troll ass that I will be here saying "told you so."
She's young, dynamic, very intelligent, politically savvy and pretty.
Posted by TheGreatGazoo on August 29, 2008 at 02:47 PM
Politically savvy in Alaska?? Before this morning..who the hell hear of her?? Rush??
Jesus...talk about desperation. Look at the options you had. Even they recognize a campaign train running off the rails.
At the very least, you will have someone to perve on during the convention and occasionally on Fox.
Does she have a myspace page or is she on facebook? I wanna check it out and see if she has any friends that have some uncompromising photos of her naked on an Alaskan beach.
Do they have beaches in Alaska??
I think they do have beaches but the water is pretty cold. Up near russia things get chilly, Dave.
Posted by Michigan_Dave on August 29, 2008 at 02:19 PM
There are alot more vagina´s in the democratic party than you would believe. Assholes have hemerroids, not a clitoris.
Does anyone else think it is odd that both McCain and Pallin want to impose things on the rest of the country that they will not allow in their home states.
McCain does not want nuclear waste to travel through Arizona but is perfectly ok with it being dumped in Nevada.
Pallin does not want oil drilling in ANWAR but is perfectly ok with it in the rest of the country and off shore.
More of the same.
Obama/Biden 08
Her Foreign relations experience may be limited to looking across the straits to Moscow and sneaking Canadian whiskey across the border.
Posted by Tawanna_LaShond on August 29, 2008 at 03:03 PM
For starters, being on the city council doesn't qualify anyone for the presidency, whether man or woman, IMO. She has only been governor for, what, two years? My gawd, could you imagine if the dems had made such a pic, either VP or POTUS?
This discussion needs to happen precisely because the issue was raised by the other side. Are we supposed to ignore it now b/c she's a woman?? Nonsense. There are many women out there that have more qualifications in their left pinky to be VP or POTUS then Palin has in her entire being. THAT, is indisputable.
McBush chose her b/c she has more estrogen than testosterone...and that should make every American wince.
TMH -
I thought Palin WAS in favor of ANWAR drilling? Where did I read that ?
Posted by Michigan_Dave on August 29, 2008 at 03:07 PM
Won't it be a hoot to watch as Tweety starts drooling and asks to lick her face? That interview will likely be interrupted by O'Really calling up with a Falafel proposal. If nothing else, this just raised the humor level.
Sarah Palin, currently under investigation, who said she doesn’t know what a vice president does, a creationist and an anti-choice hardliner. They keep trying to make these silly call-outs to Clinton voters, but can anyone seriously put Sen. Clinton’s stature next to Palin’s with a straight face? Plus, the Republican party spent 16 years putting down Sen. Clinton, now they care about her place in history? Please.
Even worse, the whole selling point on the Obama/Biden ticket is that Sen. Obama has the judgement to be president and commander-in-chief while Biden has the experience and breadth of knowledge to back him up. McCain doesn’t have the temperament or judgement, even with a quarter century in Washington, while Palin’s claim to fame seems to be Alaskan corruption and winning a beauty pageant.
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/29/picking-palin-more-of-the-same/
TMH -
I found this in regards to Palin and ANWR.
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/06/23/governor-palin-urges-congress-to-open-anwr/
She is FOR drilling.
Posted by CRTG on August 29, 2008 at 03:03 PM
Here....try to keep up and this is current through today.
Don't look very close to me.
Tawanna i just watched a old interview of her, on C-Span that might be rerun if you want to watch it, it was from Febuary 24th of this year, and she said that she is against drilling in an war.
But yet McNuts picks her and he's for drilling in anwar now after he was against it. Of course now she might be for it.
You know just like McNuts voting against his own Bill.
Chassie - interesting ..... it seems she is a flip flopper, then.
blockquote>She has no foriegn policy experience and couldn't draw a crowd of ten overseas. We do not feal threatened in the least by this choice, actually we rejoice in this choice.
Posted by newsjunkie on August 29, 2008 at 02:50 PM
I could have not said it better.
As far as having a blind hatred to the Republicans, if you have walked in my shoes these last 36 years living in a very red Indiana with friends, neighbors and co-workers who have beaten me down because I chose to take a stand against the republican mantra of the area, then you would understand that I have no love nor do I have any patience with people who are so blind that they would follow Charles Mansion if he were a republican. Mixing their blindness and their over zealous religious political mixture makes me crazy.
I am more then willing to debate anyone who wants to debate the issues but don't - don't ever try to back me in the corner and talk fear - be afraid - and every key word associated with it. I refuse to be intimidated by that method.
We all need to stand up and stop being afraid. It's why we got Bush for the 2nd time and it's the only way the republicans can fight to keep their power. Come in here and talk about issues on how we will win in November - great. But come in here and tell everyone that we need to be afraid and I'll jump your ass every time.
Like I said - enough. I will not be intimidated by fear.
She is FOR drilling.
Posted by Tawanna_LaShond on August 29, 2008 at 03:17 PM
Well i guess she flip floped just like McNuts. I just watched her on c-span from a interview on 02/24/08 and she said that she was aganist it and gave reasons why.
Posted by chassie on August 29, 2008 at 03:23 PM
See what happens when you listen to CNN... you get your facts wrong... Someone on there said she was against ANWAR this morning.
Chassie - interesting ..... it seems she is a flip flopper, then.
Posted by Tawanna_LaShond on August 29, 2008 at 03:20 PM
Yes interesting indeed, in Feb. she was aganist it, and according to what you posted in June she was for it. Which means that McNuts worked on her, and this has been in the works for at least a couple of months, now.
Sarah Palin is no Hillary Clinton. Hillary has earned her stripes over the years. I think Romney declined the offer rather than be on a losing ticket so he can run again in 2012. McCain could just as easily chosen Cindy, also a former beauty queen, who has business and international experience as well. This is a joke.
Posted by chassie on August 29, 2008 at 03:20 PM
She's for drilling, she's against drilling.... No wonder McCain picked her.. They will get along just fine.
We may not agree on abortion, but surely we can agree on reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies in this country. The reality of gun ownership may be different for hunters in rural Ohio than for those plagued by gang-violence in Cleveland, but don't tell me we can't uphold the Second Amendment while keeping AK-47s out of the hands of criminals. I know there are differences on same-sex marriage, but surely we can agree that our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters deserve to visit the person they love in the hospital and to live lives free of discrimination. Passions fly on immigration, but I don't know anyone who benefits when a mother is separated from her infant child or an employer undercuts American wages by hiring illegal workers. This too is part of America's promise - the promise of a democracy where we can find the strength and grace to bridge divides and unite in common effort.
I know there are those who dismiss such beliefs as happy talk. They claim that our insistence on something larger, something firmer and more honest in our public life is just a Trojan Horse for higher taxes and the abandonment of traditional values. And that's to be expected. Because if you don't have any fresh ideas, then you use stale tactics to scare the voters. If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from.
What the debate will boil down to is very simple:
If the President were to die, who would you want to be President? Senator Biden or Sarah Palin?
How safe do you feel now?
It's quitn' time. Everyone have a safe holiday. I'm planning on taking it easy and then will hit the ground running for local/state and national candidates come Tuesday. We have a lot of work cut out for us. To win it - we have to work it.
Keep On Rockn'
Damn these damn Repos have got me dizzy, like a bunch of dogs chasing there tail, against it before there for it, and then for it after there against it. Who in the hell knows what to think. I guess this way they think that there political correct, either way.
Posted by Kathy_from_Indiana on August 29, 2008 at 03:33 PM
Kathy, what are you planning?
For starters, being on the city council doesn't qualify anyone for the presidency, whether man or woman, IMO.
Posted by BlueinIdaho on August 29, 2008 at 03:12 PM
But being a community organizer (Whatever that is) does?
I can just see are military men right now, if she would become commander in chief, and tell them to go to war with a country, that had never done anything to us. ie. Iraq.
They would say no we don't think well do that, but what is your phone number babe.
IMO, McBush would have been better off picking Michael Palin for VP. At least the Monte Python fans would have voted for the ticket. Set the TiVos for the VP debate, that will be great!
chassie - like this :
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0dJ81lnfGm7dM/610x.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.daylife.com/photo/0dJ81lnfGm7dM&h=450&w=610&sz=79&hl=en&start=110&sig2=SghxJEOjSZtSkitv5ytNkQ&um=1&usg=__4gYZjA-r2IW_Mp-UVFCw35Bw4K4=&tbnid=7RgwOUvwzdFaEM:&tbnh=100&tbnw=136&ei=hlG4SJ_BOpKUigGjusSqAw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsarah%2Bpalin%26start%3D100%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN
But being a community organizer (Whatever that is) does?
Posted by Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 03:38 PM
He/she takes care of welfare forms and seeing that little bastards get welfare.
Posted by chassie on August 29, 2008 at 03:40 PM
Yep, I already received an email from a pug friend that said his VP is hotter than mine. I'm loving it. Most of McBush's cronies that haven't finished their bucket list are going to be wetting in their depends thinking that the 'little missie' is going to spend the budget on Zappos and mandate health insurance for bad haircuts.
This is a riot!
Happy Birthday Gramps!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/29/midday-open-thread-happy-birthday-john-mccain/
Michigan, when you want to post a real site, I will look.
the site I posted is the best site on the internet. it also has links to the main sites (cook and sabato). everybody says that this race will be close.
Kathy, there is a difference between fear and correct analysis. With that said, I will revise my statement to make you happy. We shouldnt' fear his pick but should damn well better respect it because if we dont, 4 more years of the same.
Posted by BlueinIdaho on August 29, 2008 at 03:46 PM
Thats only logical, Sarah Palin is a hot female and Biden is a crooked old croonie. Anybody who thinks different is probably a fag.
McCain does not want nuclear waste to travel through Arizona but is perfectly ok with it being dumped in Nevada.
Posted by TMH on August 29, 2008 at 03:10 PM
Have you ever been through Nevada? You could dump New Jersey there and no one would notice.
OMG! I wonder what pissed of God? Didn't the nutjobs in the Kristian right just pray for rain?
The Washington Post is reporting this morning that the Republicans are considering delaying the start of their convention because of Tropical Storm Gustav, which is expected to become a hurricane before making landfall on Tuesday. The White House is also debating whether Bush should cancel his speech or not.
Gustav is not the only problem Mother Nature is throwing at our country. Tropical Storm Hannah is out there strengthening also, and expected to become a hurricane in the next couple of days and could hit the U.S. towards the end of next week.
As if that isn’t enough, there are two more potential storms growing.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/29/rain-delay-possible-for-the-gop-convention/
They must have forgot to specify the date, time and place....
Michelle Obama reminds me of one of those crazy aunts on Sanford and Son. What was her name?
Posted by Tawanna_LaShond on August 29, 2008 at 03:45 PM
Thats exactly what i'm talking about Tawanna.
The choice is problematic for McCain on a number of fronts.
Palin is the least qualified and experienced running mate in the history of the office, having served a total of 20 months in office, and none on the national level.
Does anyone really want Sarah Palin a heartbeat away from the Presidency should McCain become unable to serve?
Although known as a reformer, Palin is a product of the corrupt Alaskan political machine, and is even under criminal investigation herself for abusing the power of her office.
Can she possibly face off against Joe Biden on any issue?
She pronounces “nuclear” like George Bush. I knew that the GOP ticket wanted to continue Bush’s policies….but four more years of Bushisms too!?
She supports Obama’s energy plan, all but undercutting the one supposed strength she brings to the ticket.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/29/ready-to-lead-mccain-taps-alaska-gov-palin-as-vp/
Sally -
Perhaps you are saving your biting political analysis for another day. Because today you are a disappointment.
More details on the Nielsen numbers.
Obama's speech beat the final episode of "American Idol", and also beat the Oscars telecast. It could be the most watched thing of the year outside of the Super Bowl, which is usually number 1.
CNN pulled in over 8 million viewers that hour, beating ALL of the broadcast networks' numbers.
Alaska and Delaware have the same number of electoral votes, 3.
Sally -
Perhaps you are saving your biting political analysis for another day. Because today you are a disappointment.
Posted by Tawanna_LaShond on August 29, 2008 at 03:52 PM
You have offended me deeply. I shall go off and mope now.
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 03:50 PM
Dump Ct first, then new Jersey to cover the stench.
Good afternoon, all.
The Republicans continue to use gimmicks to divert attention from why they can't solve problems or manage money.
They're proved that they are sorely incompetent. And they're now saddled with two risky candidates with no achievements to which they can point.
Palin is just their latest distraction from reality. Her nomination might get the Republcians through what was going to be an abysmal convention, but her novelty will wear thin soon enough. Then the anxiety will set in.
Obama has his strategy and I doubt he sees this nomination as any reason to waver from it. Sorry, Rove, we don't have to bite. The spotlight remains on the failed Republican record and how it is holding the country back.
And didn't we just know that the GOP men would have to resort to exploiting an obviously unsuspecting woman instead of stepping up to defend their own actions from the last 15 years? They can't take the heat, so they retreat?
Questioning McCain's judgment is how Obama framed this election last night. Sarah Palin's nomination falls right into his argument for why McCain is not up to the job.
Is this a wise man? Is this a woman ready to lead a nation in economic and military turmoil?
Would she run the Pentagon like her childrens' hockey team sponsor? Would that even be better than the way McCain would do it?
Questions leading to more questions. Palin was the perfect choice...for our purposes.
Posted by BlueinIdaho on August 29, 2008 at 03:50 PM
But Blue, silly sally says there is no Global Warming. He or she or the it, really needs to get out of Minn. I wish he would pipe some of that cooling weather that it is always talking about, down here in the southern part of the country.
Progressives do not believe a woman should be elected to high office, they think they are too stupid and should stay at home, that's why they rejected Hilary, that and Hilary's fat ass.
According to someone i just heard on Cnn, said this pick, is a (Hail Mary Pass) Tee Hee
neo_con are you one of the little bastard waiting for welfare ?
I've been scratching my head over this BP choice, and aside from Palin's being a MILF, she brings only one other thing to the ticket - the reputation for being a maverick. So IMHO, McNuts has decided that his campaign is going to be based on being a maverick and "shaking up" Washington, abandoning the other themes he has tried so far, like experience. But it shouldn;t be to hard for Obama to paint him into a corner on that one, based on the Old Fart's embrace of Bushwa's failed policies. I see this as a large gain for Obama. IMHO.
OUCH!
Statement from the Obama Campaign re: Palin
"Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency. Governor Palin shares John McCain's commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush's failed economic policies -- that's not the change we need, it's just more of the same," said Bill Burton, Obama Campaign Spokesman.
BP = VP. typing too fast.
Blue,
Don't you know that Americans have always clamored to see a beauty queen become president. I believe the founders wrote that into the Constitution under qualifications for president, right?
I wonder what was the talent that won her the crown? Spunky has won two beauty contests and still is in search of a talent. Maybe she could be a better president than him.
And who would be President Palin's Fourth Branch? A professional hockey player? Joe Lieberman? A grizzly bear?
And she smoked joints even when she was pregnant. Now that's really wise.
OK, I'm going to leave her alone until she starts making statements about issues. She is planning on doing that, isn't she? Since McCain isn't?
Funny you should ask neo con that?
Given your grandkid, DuHuhsty/Pammy.
Posted by Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 03:59 PM
So you are a fan of Negro comedy?
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 04:16 PM
DuHsTy has a problem. His daddy is named Richard and his mama is Gordon
Posted by Christopher_blunt_proud_member_of_the_VLWC on August 29, 2008 at 04:14 PM
Maybe not. I read somewhere earlier today that her family is snugly and firmly in the pocket of BP/Amoco.
no dont know pammy at all iam single no kids fat ss troll
Kathy In Indiana, you've think you got it bad I'm a yankee in the bible belt.
no i have no my problem but you to do that you dumb ass trool cant spell and thnk for self with out read the necon websight lol
Doo-Bee
I think her husband works for BP in the off-season (commercial fisherman otherwise) - that's what I read in one of her bio's
let me see if I can find the link .......
Actually, McCain's choice is a form of black comedy. No wonder it makes so much sense to sally*.
I love Palin's delivery style. She sounds like a pageant contestant. Tell us, Sarah, what is is most important issue confronting the world today?
"I want all of the world's children, especially those unborn, to live in peace and harmony...just as long as they don't require any government assistance and I have to pay any taxes."
Sorry, it's just too tempting. I can't help myself.
Posted by Tawanna_LaShond on August 29, 2008 at 04:14 PM
You don't really want to know, but that is the term the right wingers have been using for her all day (as a compliment, no less). Google it, or check out the "urban dictionary". The definition is NSFW as they say.
in the pocket of BP/Amoco.
Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 29, 2008 at 04:20 PM
What you don't know, make up, right DopeyDoodle?
so more americans watched obama's speech than watched the opening of the very well viewed olympics...i wonder what the audience size will be for mcsame and paladin ( have gun-will travel)?
That would also explain the references to her I've been seeing as "VPILF".
I was scratching my head at that one too.
William Ayers's daddy,
Thomas Ayers, was chairman of Commonwealth Edison (now Exelon) and a charter member of the Chicago establishment.
Commonwealth Edison (or "ComEd"), owned by Exelon Corporation, is the largest electric utility in Illinois, serving the Chicago and Northern Illinois area.
. The company's revenues total more than $15 billion annually.
dan, sally's mom is wandering around the wal-mart trying to score some naptha for her huff bag...why don't you give her a hand?
Palin's husband, Todd,[72] works for BP energy corporation at an oil field on Alaska's North Slope...
HEY! Lookie here! She changed her own bio to gussy up the right winger creds and TOLD CLASSIFIED MILITARY TROOP MOVEMENTS in order to tie herself in with the 9-11!!! crowd:
...He now serves in an infantry brigade and will be deployed to Iraq on September 11, 2008.[75]...
defenders of wildlife says palin is to the right of bush on environmental issues:
Shocking Choice by John McCain
WASHINGTON-- Senator John McCain just announced his choice for running mate: Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska. To follow is a statement by Rodger Schlickeisen, president of Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund.
“Senator McCain’s choice for a running mate is beyond belief. By choosing Sarah Palin, McCain has clearly made a decision to continue the Bush legacy of destructive environmental policies.
“Sarah Palin, whose husband works for BP (formerly British Petroleum), has repeatedly put special interests first when it comes to the environment. In her scant two years as governor, she has lobbied aggressively to open up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling, pushed for more drilling off of Alaska’s coasts, and put special interests above science. Ms. Palin has made it clear through her actions that she is unwilling to do even as much as the Bush administration to address the impacts of global warming. Her most recent effort has been to sue the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to remove the polar bear from the endangered species list, putting Big Oil before sound science. As unbelievable as this may sound, this actually puts her to the right of the Bush administration.
“This is Senator McCain’s first significant choice in building his executive team and it’s a bad one. It has to raise serious doubts in the minds of voters about John McCain’s commitment to conservation, to addressing the impacts of global warming and to ensuring our country ends its dependency on oil.”
What you don't know, make up, right DopeyDoodle?
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 04:26 PM
"If you can´t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit." DopeyDoodle
There will be a Vice President Debate, and it will be up to Biden, to put high pressure on her, and ask her, What would you do questions, dealing with Putin, and Putin isn't about to have a young No experence women put him down or even talk with her.
As far as the middle east, dealing with a woman, is a insult, to their religion.
"Lights-out" could be at any time with McCain, due to his health! I liked McCain in 2000, but in 2008, he is dangerous!
I think he wants us to attack her, I would just double the attacks on him, and leave her alone. If she is strong on corruption, she could split the Republican party! Ask her how she feels about lobbyist, and did she take any money from the oil lobby.
Posted by SandyH on August 29, 2008 at 04:16 PM
Sandy, she was (get this) "Miss Congeniality"
HAHAHAA!!
(I wonder whatever happened to her? Her PB account has been closed for some time.)
dan a cactass and sally just rewrites what they dont like alot so it not the same as the real story
dan a cactass and sally just rewrites what they dont like alot so it not the same as the real story
Frankly , DemocracyWon , I could give a crap if the middle eastern countries find dealing with a woman to be an insult to their religion.
Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 29, 2008 at 04:32 PM
Whats classified about saying her son is in the military and going to Iraq?? pull your head out of your ass Pauly
Hillary would have dealt with those middle eastern countries just as effectively as any man. Let's not go backwards here.
neocon do you baffle them with bullshit." when you talk to your red neck freinds about t he election and how they have to vote mcain or thye will go to hell
So IMHO, McNuts has decided that his campaign is going to be based on being a maverick and "shaking up" Washington,
Posted by Christopher_blunt_proud_member_of_the_VLWC on August 29, 2008 at 04:11 PM
Yeah, they'll shake things up in Washington all right.
Palin will introduce the hat trick as the new standard for sports analogies in politics. And McCain will probably blow up Yucca Mountain thinking Bin Lauden is hiding there.
dan a cactass and sally just rewrites what they dont like alot so it not the same as the real story
Posted by dusty2006 on August 29, 2008 at 04:37 PM
Sure, Right, DUHpammy, whatever.
Posted by dUhStY2006 on August 29, 2008 at 04:43 PM
Redneck friends are good friends. They are not like liberals who will betray you in a heartbeat. Redneck friends are good people.
Posted by gregg on August 29, 2008 at 04:29 PM
That will depend on whether it is run like Trump's Miss USA/World pageant or if it's run like Murdock's Fox News Follies.
I can't see many HillRaisers tuning in unless they are planning on shooting at the screen.
I'm assuming that most people will be watching America's Got Talent...and that's not the RNC.
Sarah Louise Heath Palin (IPA: /ˈpeɪlɨn/; born February 11, 1964) is the governor of Alaska, and the presumptive Republican vice presidential nominee for the 2008 United States presidential election.
Palin was elected governor in 2006 after defeating incumbent governor Frank Murkowski in the Republican primary and former Democratic governor Tony Knowles in the general election. She was the youngest person, and the first woman, to be elected governor of Alaska. She gained attention for publicizing ethical violations by state Republican Party leaders. Before becoming governor, Palin served two terms on the Wasilla, Alaska, City Council from 1992 to 1996, was elected and re-elected mayor of Wasilla for two three-year terms in 1996 and 1999. She also ran unsuccessfully for lieutenant governor in 2002. Palin holds a bachelor's degree in journalism from the University of Idaho.
On August 29, 2008, Republican presidential candidate John McCain chose Palin to serve as his running mate,[2][3][4] making her the first female vice presidential candidate of the Republican Party and the second female vice presidential candidate representing a major political party. She will also be the first politician from Alaska to run on a national ticket for president or vice president.
Early life
Palin was born Sarah Louise Heath in Sandpoint, Idaho, the daughter of Sarah (née Sheeran), a school secretary, and Charles R. Heath, a science teacher and track coach.[5][6] She has English, Irish, and German ancestry.[5] Her family moved to Alaska when she was an infant.[6] The Heaths were avid outdoors enthusiasts; Sarah and her father would sometimes wake at 3 a.m. to hunt moose before school, and the family regularly ran 5 km and 10 km races.[6]
At Wasilla High School in Wasilla, Alaska, Palin was the head of the school Fellowship of Christian Athletes.[6] She was the point guard and captain for the basketball team. She helped the team win the Alaska small-school championship in 1982, hitting a critical free throw in the last seconds, despite a stress fracture in her ankle.[6] She earned the nickname "Sarah Barracuda" because of her intense play,[6] and was the leader of team prayer before games.[6]
In 1984, Palin won the Miss Wasilla contest earlier, then finished second in the Miss Alaska beauty pageant[7], which won her a scholarship to help pay her way through college.[6] In the Wasilla pageant, she played the flute and also won Miss Congeniality.[8][9]
Palin holds a bachelor's degree in journalism from the University of Idaho, where she also minored in political science.[10]. She married Todd Palin, who had been her boyfriend from high school onward, on August 29, 1988, and briefly worked as a sports reporter for local Anchorage television stations while also working as a commercial fisherwoman with her husband.[6]
Pre-gubernatorial political experience
Location of Wasilla, AlaskaPalin served two terms on the Wasilla City Council from 1992 to 1996. In 1996, she challenged and defeated the incumbent mayor, criticizing wasteful spending and high taxes.[6] The ex-mayor and sheriff tried to organize a recall campaign, but failed.[6] Palin followed through on her campaign promises to reduce her own salary, and to reduce property taxes by 60%.[6] She ran for reelection against the former mayor in 1999, winning by an even larger margin.[6][11] Palin was also elected president of the Alaska Conference of Mayors.[12]
In 2002, Palin made an unsuccessful bid for Lieutenant Governor, coming in second to Loren Leman in a five-way race in the Republican primary. After Frank Murkowski resigned from his long-held U.S. Senate seat in mid-term to become governor, Palin interviewed to be his possible successor. Murkowski appointed his daughter, then-Alaska State Representative Lisa Murkowski.[6]
Governor Murkowski appointed Palin Ethics Commissioner of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission,[13] where she served from 2003 to 2004 until resigning in protest over what she called the "lack of ethics" of fellow Alaskan Republican leaders, who ignored her whistleblowing complaints of legal violations and conflicts of interest.[14][6] After she resigned, she exposed the state Republican Party's chairman, Randy Ruedrich, one of her fellow Oil & Gas commissioners, who was accused of doing work for the party on public time, and supplying a lobbyist with a sensitive e-mail.[15] Palin filed formal complaints against both Ruedrich and former Alaska Attorney General Gregg Renkes, who both resigned; Ruedrich paid a record $12,000 fine.[6]
Governorship
In 2006, Palin, running on a clean-government campaign, upset then-Governor Murkowski in the Republican gubernatorial primary.[6] In August, she declared that that education, public safety, and transportation would be three cornerstones of her administration.[16] Despite the lack of support from party leaders and being outspent by her Democratic opponent, she won the general election in November, defeating former Governor Tony Knowles.[6]
Palin visits a wounded soldier in Landstuhl, Germany, July 2007Palin became the first woman to be Alaska's governor, and at 42, the youngest governor in Alaskan history. Palin was also the first Alaskan governor born after Alaska achieved U.S. statehood and the first not to be inaugurated in Juneau, instead choosing to hold her inauguration ceremony in Fairbanks. She took office on December 4, 2006.
Highlights of Governor Palin's tenure include a successful push for an ethics bill, and also shelving pork-barrel projects supported by fellow Republicans. After federal funding for the Gravina Island Bridge project that had become a nationwide symbol of wasteful earmark spending was lost, Palin decided against filling the over $200 million gap with state money.[17][18] "Alaska needs to be self-sufficient, she says, instead of relying heavily on 'federal dollars,' as the state does today."[19]
She has challenged the state's Republican leaders, helping to launch a campaign by Lieutenant Governor Sean Parnell to unseat U.S. Congressman Don Young[20] and publicly challenging Senator Ted Stevens to come clean about the federal investigation into his financial dealings.[17]
In 2007, Palin had an approval rating often above 90%.[19] A poll published by Hays Research on July 28, 2008 showed Palin's approval rating at 80%[21], while another Ivan Moore poll showed it at 76%, a drop which the pollsters attributed to the controversial firing of Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan.[22]
Energy policies
Palin has strongly promoted oil resource development in Alaska, but also helped pass a tax increase on oil company profits.[17][19] Palin has announced plans to create a new sub-cabinet group of advisors, to address climate change and reduce greenhouse gas emissions within Alaska.[23]
Shortly after taking office, Palin rescinded thirty-five appointments made by Murkowski in the last hours of his administration, including the appointment by Murkowski of his former chief of staff James "Jim" Clark to the Alaska Natural Gas Development Authority.[24][25] Clark later pled guilty to conspiring with a defunct oil-field-services company to channel money into Frank Murkowski's re-election campaign.[26]
In March 2007, Palin presented the Alaska Gasline Inducement Act (AGIA) as the new legal vehicle for building a natural gas pipeline from the state's North Slope. [27] This negated a deal by the previous governor to grant the contract to a coalition including BP (her husband's seasonal employer). Only one legislator, Representative Ralph Samuels, voted against the measure,[28] and in June Palin signed it into law.[29][30] On January 5, 2008, Palin announced that a Canadian company, TransCanada Corp., was the sole AGIA-compliant applicant.[31][32] In August of 2008 Palin signed a bill into law giving the state of Alaska authority to award TransCanada Pipelines a license to build and operate the $26-billion-dollar pipeline to ship natural gas from the North Slope to the Lower 48, through Canada.[33]
In response to high oil and gas prices, and in response to the resulting state government budget surplus, Palin proposed giving Alaskans $100-a-month energy debit cards. She also proposed providing grants to electrical utilities so that they would reduce customers' rates.[34] She subsequently dropped the debit card proposal, and in its place she proposed to send Alaskans $1,200 directly and eliminate the gas tax.[35]
Conservation policies
In May 2008, Palin objected to the decision of Dirk Kempthorne, the Republican United States Secretary of the Interior, to list polar bears as an endangered species.[36]
Social issues
Palin in Kuwait, 2007Palin is pro-life, and a prominent member of Feminists for Life.[37][38][39] While running for Governor of Alaska, Palin supported the teaching of creationism alongside evolution in schools;[40] however, she noted she would not use "religion as a litmus test, or anybody's personal opinion on evolution or creationism" as criteria for selection to the school board.[40]
She opposes same-sex marriage, but she has stated that she has gay friends and is receptive to gay and lesbian concerns about discrimination.[16] Palin complied with an Alaskan state Supreme Court order and signed an implementation of same-sex benefits into law under protest, stating that legal options to avoid doing so had run out.[41] [42] She supported a non-binding referendum on whether there should be a constitutional amendment on the matter.[43] Alaska was one of the first U.S. states to pass a constitutional ban on gay marriage, in 1998, along with Hawaii.[44] Palin has stated that she supported the 1998 constitutional amendment.[16]
Palin's first veto was used to block legislation that would have barred the state from granting benefits to the partners of gay state employees. In effect, her veto granted State of Alaska benefits to same-sex couples. The veto occurred after Palin consulted with Alaska's attorney general on the constitutionality of the legislation.[42]
Budget
In the first days of her administration, Palin followed through on a campaign promise to sell the Westwind II jet purchased (on a state government credit account) by the Murkowski administration. The state placed the jet for sale on eBay three times. In August 2007, the jet was sold for $2.1 million.[45]
Shortly after becoming governor, Palin cancelled a contract for the construction of an 11-mile (18-kilometer) gravel road outside Juneau to a mine. This reversed a decision made in the closing days of the Murkowski Administration.[46]
In June 2007, Palin signed into law a $6.6 billion operating budget—the largest in Alaska's history.[47] At the same time, she used her veto power to make the second-largest cuts of the construction budget in state history. The $237 million in cuts represented over 300 local projects, and reduced the construction budget to nearly $1.6 billion.[48]
Public Safety Commissioner dismissal
Palin at Alaska Airmen's Trade Show in Anchorage, Alaska (2008-05-10)Governor Palin is currently under investigation by an independent investigator hired by the legislature[49] to determine if she abused her power when firing Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan.[50][51] On July 11, 2008, Palin dismissed Walter Monegan as Commissioner of Public Safety and instead offered him a position as executive director of the state Alcoholic Beverage Control Board, which he subsequently turned down.[52][53] Her power to fire him is not in dispute, however, Monegan alleged that his dismissal may have been an abuse of power tied to his reluctance to fire Palin's former ex-brother-in law, an Alaska State Trooper, Mike Wooten. In 2006, before Palin was governor, Wooten was briefly suspended for ten days for threatening to kill McCann's (and Palin's) father, tasering his 11-year-old stepson (at the stepson's request), drinking beer in his squad car, and violating game laws. After a union protest, the suspension was reduced to five days.[54] Incidentally, Wooten had been involved in a divorce and child custody battle with Palin's sister, Molly McCann.[55] Palin replaced Monegan with Chuck Kopp, who had previously been removed from supervision of an employee he had allegedly sexually harassed.[56] Palin knew of Kopp's alleged sexual harassment before she appointed Kopp.[57]
Palin said that her dismissal of Monegan was unrelated to the fact that he had not fired Wooten, and said that Monegan was instead dismissed for not adequately filling state trooper vacancies, and because he "did not turn out to be a team player on budgeting issues."[58] Monegan claims that the two most-recent trooper graduating classes had the most recruits in years, and that Palin stated the audit Monegan provided made the administration look like it did not support the troopers. [59] Palin acknowledged that a member of her administration, Frank Bailey, did contact the Department of Public Safety regarding Wooten, but both Palin and Bailey say that happened without her knowledge and was unrelated to her dismissal of Monegan.[58] Bailey was put on leave for two months for acting outside the scope of his authority as the Director of Boards and Commissions. Commissioner Monegan received no severance pay, though at the same time another dismissed Commissioner, Charles Kopp (who served only 11 days) received $10,000.[60]
In response to Palin's statement that she had nothing to hide, in August 2008 the Alaska Legislature hired Steve Branchflower to investigate Palin and her staff for possible abuse of power surrounding the dismissal. The investigation is being overseen by Democratic State Senator Hollis French, who is overseeing the investigation, says that the Palin administration has been cooperating and that subpoenas are unnecessary.[61] The Palin administration itself was the first to release an audiotape of Bailey making inquiries about the status of the Wooten investigation.[58][62]
Palin later admitted that members of her staff had made about two dozen contacts with public safety officials about the trooper, including at least one "smoking gun" conversation.[63]
Matanuska Maid Dairy Closure
When on June 6, 2007, the Alaska Creamery Board recommended closing Matanuska Maid Dairy, an unprofitable state-owned business, Palin objected, citing concern for the impact on dairy farmers and the fact that the dairy had just received $600,000 in state money. When Palin realized that the Board of Agriculture and Conservation appoints Creamery Board members, she simply replaced the entire membership of the Board of Agriculture and Conservation.[19][64] The new board, led by businesswoman Kristan Cole, reversed the decision to close the dairy.[64] The new board approved milk price increases offered by the dairy in an attempt to control fiscal losses, even though milk from Washington was already offered in Alaskan stores at lower prices.[65] In the end, the dairy was forced to close, and the state tried to sell the assets to pay off its debts but received no bids.[66][67]
2008 vice-presidential candidacy
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Alaskan governor Sarah Palin chosen by McCain as Vice Presidential running mate
A 2008 McCain-Palin campaign logoMain article: John McCain presidential campaign, 2008
See also: Republican Party (United States) vice presidential candidates, 2008
On August 29, 2008, Palin was announced as presumptive Republican presidential candidate John McCain's vice-presidential candidate, or running mate.[68] Palin's selection surprised many Republican officials, several of whom had speculated about other candidates[69][70] such as Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty, former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, United States Senator Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut, and former Pennsylvania Governor Tom Ridge.[71] A month previously, Palin had refused to speculate about the job, saying,
"[A]s for that V.P. talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the V.P. does every day? I’m used to being very productive and working real hard in an administration. We want to make sure that that V.P. slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things that we’re trying to accomplish up here for the rest of the U.S., before I can even start addressing that question."[72]
Palin is considered to have similar policy positions to John McCain in most respects. One major exception is drilling for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR), which Palin strongly supports and McCain has opposed.[73] She has praised John McCain's energy plan, as well as aspects of Senator Obama's energy plan, although opposing Senator Obama's proposal for a windfall profits tax on oil companies.[74]
Palin is the second U.S. woman to run on a major party ticket, after Geraldine Ferraro, the Democratic vice-presidential nominee under former vice-president Walter Mondale in 1984.[68]
Family and personal life
Palin's husband, Todd Palin,[75] works for BP energy corporation at an oil field on Alaska's North Slope[76] and works as a fisherman in his hometown in the summers. Todd is a champion snowmobiler, winning the 2,000-mile (3,200 km) "Iron Dog" race four times.[6] Todd is one-eighth Yup'ik. The two eloped shortly after Palin graduated from college; when they learned they needed witnesses for the civil ceremony, they recruited two residents from the old-age home down the street.[6] The Palin family lives in Wasilla, about 40 miles (64 km) north of Anchorage.
On September 11, 2007, the Palins' then eighteen-year-old son Track, eldest of five, joined the Army.[77] He now serves in an infantry brigade and will be deployed to Iraq on September 11, 2008.[78] She also has three daughters: Bristol, Willow and Piper.[12]
On April 18, 2008, while in office as governor, Palin gave birth to her second son and fifth child, Trig Paxson Van Palin, who prenatal genetic testing showed would have Down syndrome.[79] She returned to the office three days after giving birth.[17] Her decision to have the baby was applauded by the pro-life community.[80][81]
Details of Palin's personal life have contributed to her political image. She hunts, eats moose hamburger, ice fishes, rides snowmobiles, and owns a float plane.[19][82] Palin holds a lifetime membership with the National Rifle Association. In December 2007, Palin posed for a photo spread in the fashion magazine Vogue.[83]
Electoral history
Election results
2006 Gubernatorial Election, Alaska
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Republican Sarah Palin
Well, moron, troop movements are NOT supposed to be telegraphed in advance. It is a simple exercise on Google to find out which unit he is in, and her stupidity just put EVERY Soldier in that unit in greater danger.
That's why the British Press, although knowing where Prince Harry was, NEVER revealed the whereabouts. As soon as it was leaked, he was pulled out.
THAT, and her giving out THE EFFIN' DATE of the deployment (which "just happens" to be 9-11, a mere coincidence, I'm sure) smacks of rank stupidity, bordering on Treason.
So you are a fan of Negro comedy?
Posted by SandyH on August 29, 2008 at 04:19 PM
Yes I am, Sanford and Son is on my list of all time favorite show - Amos n Andy too. I didn't care for the Jeffersons or any of the other ones though.
Posted by chassie on August 29, 2008 at 04:57 PM
Knock it of, stupid, post a link or don't post!
We don't need ten pages of copy paste crap.
Posted by chassie on August 29, 2008 at 04:57 PM
Knock it of, stupid, post a link or don't post!
We don't need ten pages of copy paste crap.
Harry and Louise Return!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/29/harry-and-louise-return/
Awesome!
Oh for crying out loud. Here is a link I got from a PB post by LizHere is some "Scarey" for you about Ms. Palin
She's a "Rapture" nut!
"End Times - The Rapture of the Church. (official Assembly of God Position Paper)
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 05:13 PM
Kiss my ass numbsy, and don't double post.
of= off
sorry about the double post, but damn, Rj has been told that how many times?
DooBee -
MSNBC has published the info on the Palin son here:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/08/29/1305153.aspx
Can they do that?
Palin on global frickin warmin:
A changing environment will affect Alaska more than any other state, because of our location. I’m not one though who would attribute it to being man-made.
Palin Speaks:
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/08/29/video-sarah-palin-said-hillary-clinton-was-whining/
and, not very well.
DAmn! Dean and the Obama ream are right on it. They hired the original actors from that Pug 'Harry & Louise" anti Health Care ad from 1993 to do a new one, which they will run during the Pug Lie Fest next week 9if they hold it).
Posted by Tawanna_LaShond on August 29, 2008 at 05:17 PM
It's too late. It's out there on her Wikipedia page. All they are doing is restating stuff that SHE leaked. (As if a million people didn't immediately look her up after the announcement.)
MAYBE she did it on purpose in order to keep her kid home, and screw all the other Soldiers in his unit?
I wouldn't put it past a Pug to do that.
Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 29, 2008 at 05:15 PM
There are many Assembly of God members in Idaho. Pretty normal people...and like all the other religions, most of the members don't follow the rules to the letter.
No need to reach very far to find a whole mess of stuff wrong with his choice. But, then again, it is so right for us!
It is now a lead pipe cinch, Sarah brings the base back, she brings me back. McCain/Palin will win 60% - 40%.
DPD,
Bold VP pick the media whores are calling it?
More like incredibly strange VP pick? How could this be a choice to get the Hillary Clinton vote? McCain would have done better to nominate Joe Lieberman in that case.
McCain has met Palin just once. She couldn't have been on his short list before this week. It's obvious that the McCain camp felt desperate and had to to do something quickly before the convention to least shore up their Base.
It's another one of those trigger-happy, quick- from-the-hip decisions. McCain always over-react to what's going on around him instead of thinking things through. Hillary's supporters didn't vote for her because she was a woman...they voted for her because she was one terrific, highly-qualified candidate.
McCain and his advisers got it all wrong again.
Pat Buchanan just referred to Palin as a bright and intelligent "girl." That's just what the GOP men think of Palin...an attractive distraction. No wonder they didn't pick Kaye Hutchinson. Nobody would ever think of insulting her saying she's a "good girl."
The Rpublicans have found their "trophy wife" for the Religious Right. That's all she is.
Palin doesn't appeal to the same voters who chose Hillary. Besides, the Democratic Base is united and stoked to get out the vote. We ended our convention last night and aren't shopping around any longer.
McCain has gambled away any chance he ever had of being taken "seriously" as president. Independents will look at this McCain decision as confirmation that he's McNuts.
That palin dame was on a talk show later in the morning where they asked her how she will handle the job as VP. She stated she really couldn't say until someone fills her in on the duties involved since she had no idea what the job entails.
Stupid mcgeezer has really stepped in crap this time.
I'll bet the entire world is laughing their asses off at the pick of another malcontent to add the neocon collection of morons.
Posted by Tawanna_LaShond on August 29, 2008 at 05:17 PM
TRACK?? Her son is named "Track"?? I like it. It sounds like a secret agent or super-hero name.
"Track Palin, Defender of Neo-Cons starring in "OIL WARS, Part IV, "Onward to the Rapture!" "
Posted by Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 05:32 PM
A sucker for a pretty face are you?
I wouldn't be too fast to jump on her bandwagon, if I was you. She's into defending women in divorce cases. You just might be in her sights...and she knows how to shoot.
I can't stand the bitch already. Anyone that heard her speak knows what I mean. She has vile, shrill, hateful manner of speaking. She will drive mcgeezer nuts.
I wonder what her laugh is like. They were making fun of Hillary's laugh.
Someone heard tom brokaw say on the air after Obama's speech last night that he felt Obama's speech sounded "imperial". What an asshole.
Leave it to a pedophile repuke to pick a "young" "beauty queen" as a running mate. I wonder if he is entertaining the idea of leaving his current beauty queen because she is too damn old.
Not to change the subject of the day, but i was just wondering if you all picked up on Obama's line last night, when he said that McNuts likes to boast that he will follow Osama to the gates of hell, and Barrack said he won't even follow him to a cave in Afghanistan. I thought that was true, how about you all?
That palin dame was on a talk show later in the morning where they asked her how she will handle the job as VP. She stated she really couldn't say until someone fills her in on the duties involved since she had no idea what the job entails.
Johne,
She really said that on camera? That could be used in ads during the debate.
McCain obviously didn't bother to give her any media training before she started doing interviews. She thinks it's "cute" to be unprepared to do a job?
She's not a maverick; she's incredibly green. What must the leaders of Russia and China think? They've already been running circles around Condi.
Why would McCain allow himself to look so weak to Putin? Doesn't he understand the gravity of the situation in Europe? Does he think he's invincible?
Palin might at least be able to turn on the charm like Spunky. But McCain doesn't have a cute bone in his body...nor any brains.
Well I guessI don't "get it" as you libs say.
You think Obama's poor, he must be he is black.
You do not think a woman should be elected to a high office, if one is she must have been doing some one,
An maybe her husband has a funny name like Track, not a regular name like Hussain.
This is the progressive way, open minded?
Go sit on the tail gate of your truck Sandy and pop open another beer.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Obama was brilliant in preemptively countering the BS and baloney attacks aimed at him through the sickly MSM.
Next time he can focus attention on the MSM story itself, and perhaps get some action on the ownership and equal time issues to help restore trust in the media.
Meanwhile, this neo-conked-out militarist is their man:
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By Glenn Greenwald
~snip~
The foreign policy team exerting chief influence over John McCain is truly more extremist -- in a purer and more deranged form -- than the foreign policy team of the Bush administration. They're not only the most extremist faction in American political life, but also the most delusional. These aren't just the people who led the U.S. to war in Iraq -- though they are that -- but they're also the ones who actually believe that the Bush administration has been far too meek in its assertion of U.S. military force and too passive in its interference in the affairs of other countries. They want to accelerate -- massively intensify -- virtually every one of the polices that has brought the U.S. to such disgrace and near ruination over the past eight years. There is nothing "moderate" or "centrist" about any of them. John McCain is the Candidate of Bill Kristol and Joe Lieberman and John Bolton for good and clear reasons (including in Georgia): he's the best and most devoted instrument to advance their militaristic agenda.
Sorry to tell you Sally 60 40 will never happen!
In about 9 weeks McNuts, will be like Bob Dole, doing Viagra commercials, with his smiling beauty queens by his side. Its all over for you except for the shouting.
chassie,
Definitely true. Since mcgeezer had crashed five expensive fighter jets when he was a "pilot", I was wondering how long would it take him to crash the American dream here at home.
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mcgeezer appears to have very poor judgement having picked that woman for VP. mcgeezer has demostrated time and time again that his judgement is seriously impaired.
How does a person crash five fighter jets. These planes are so fast that it only takes a single mistake to pull a stupid stunt that will crash the plane. I would say that his judgement is seriously impaired.
Go sit on the tail gate of your truck Sandy and pop open another beer.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 06:00 PM
Sounds like a good idea to me. Celebration time.
The GOP pundits are now saying, "But she's not running for President." So the excuses are already being made for this decision?
Not even 12 hours into the announcement and they know they've put themselves into a bind.
The Republicans have taken one bad selection and added to it. Look out for more of these Change Agent references. It's BS Rovarian code for saying that both McCain and Palin are mavericks who don't have a record they can run on.
It's the same old change the Republicans can't deliver. They represent the failed status quo.
later.
Posted by Johne on August 29, 2008 at 06:06 PM
Johne, i read , on another blog that McNuts is so incompetent that he would not put him in charge of his rubbers.
follow him to a cave in Afghanistan. I thought that was true, how about you all?
Posted by chassie on August 29, 2008 at 05:53 PM
Ola chassie,
He can't be found, and for good reason. He's not in a cave, he's in the imagination: a boogie-man, to inspire us to open our wallets to the defense industry.
If he should be caught, he would have to be hung, and that would cause serious problems for our pals the Saudis.
Dare I say that he is probably at the Bush ranch, Bar-b-que chef in residence, or just maybe in the Oval Office, hiding under the desk?
Sounds like a good idea to me. Celebration time.
Posted by chassie
You are not allowed to drink with your meds robert, remember what happened the last time?
You were on a fried bologna and egg diet for a week in the rubber room Hilton.
Butt out bush. What is happening in Russia is none of our damn business. Russia may cut off oil and gas shipments to Europe if we insist on sanctions. The price of gas and oil would go through the roof for Europe and the U.S. Thanks bush for sticking your rotten nose into eastern European affairs.
"The diplomacy coming out of Washington these days, the more so under Secretary of State Rice and President Bush, appears to follow the norm that laws are made to be disregarded, disrespected, ignored, manipulated or simply broken, which is patently obvious through the sheer hypocrisy of Washington’s position on the territorial integrity of Georgia. Let us then examine this question from a legal perspective, which is supposed to be definitive and binding in civilised countries, in states of law which follow due process, presupposing that the USA wishes to include itself in this group of nations."
"Beginning with Abkhazia and Georgia, Georgia was a signatory of the Constitution of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and was bound under this Constitution to respect all its clauses. One of these was the voluntary dissolution of the Union and the clause which states that minority groups (South Ossetia and Abkhazia) in other Republics (Georgia) had the statutory and constitutional right to a referendum to decide as to the degree of independence/autonomy/self-government that their people chose in a free and fair electoral process. "
More.......
Abkhazia, Georgia, Kosovo, South Ossetia and something called international law
I found this article in the Anchorage News on Todd Palin - husband of the R-VP candidate
http://dwb.adn.com/news/politics/story/8924080p-8824177c.html
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 06:16 PM
Why do you keep on insisting on calling me Robert numbsy? Does Robert live in South Georgia to?
Just heard on the radio, that the number of people who tuned in to Obama's speech, was more than those for the Olympics opening ceremonies, for American Idol Finale, for the Oscars, etc !
Now you can't tell me all those people have been polled! You can't tell me that even if they will not vote for him, they tuned in for him.
Let's watch and see the numbers for Mcnumbnuts next Thursday! Oh, I will bet all 200 of his supporters are all atwitter just waiting for it!
hahahahahahahahahahaha
I will not be watching, that is for sure. His soprano voice, and his lies just turn my stomach.
Interesting history and stuff on the monetary system based on debt. And an alternative way out of the inevitable bankruptcy and collapse: American Monetary Act:
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Looking at the growth of GDP from 1945 to 2003, the increase was from $223.1 billion to $10,987.9 billion, a factor of 49. But the debt ($463.4 billion vs. $44,967.7 billion) grew by a factor of 97, almost twice the rate of GDP growth. Thus the total debt burden on the economy has doubled from a ratio of 2:1 to more than 4:1 (though it was much less than that during the early days of the nation).
But with continued compound growth of debt and a slow- or no-growth state of the economy as we head into a recession, we are starting to see what Dr. Blain called an “acceleration to meltdown.” He wrote:
“We are buying more and more in the same amount of time. Witness the efforts of people to get rid of their excess through yard sales, storage units, and big trash pickup days, and the massive size of what are euphemistically called landfills. While two billion people in the world lack basics such as clean water, food, and shelter, Americans throw away their microwave ovens, televisions, computers, refrigerators, furniture, and cars. Meanwhile, acceleration is applauded as increasing productivity. It’s like arguing that cancer is good because it grows.”
These are the things the Democrats in Denver should be talking about, instead of going to so many parties. They should be making note that the U.S., to quote economists close to the Federal Reserve, is “functionally bankrupt.”
In fact, the debt this nation owes to the banks, to foreign creditors, and to each other can never be paid off. Further, one big reason for all of our fruitless military endeavors overseas may simply be to escape unpleasant economic realities at home. But this is pointless. Nothing creates more debt than war, as the bankers have always known.
oops - meant to add it had info on his ties to BP oil - sorry
bush and cheney are war criminals. Naturally they support other war criminals in Georgia, Poland, Ukraine, etal.
I will not be watching, that is for sure.
Posted by PamB on August 29, 2008 at 06:25 PM
That's why you will continue to be dopey and uninformed.
You were on a fried bologna and egg diet for a week in the rubber room Hilton.
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 29, 2008 at 06:16 PM
No numbsy i like pan sausage, and fried eggs, over easy, hash browns, and onions, and Grits. Toast lightly buttered with blackberry jelly, or gallberry honey, or organge blossom honey.
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Posted by chassie on August 29, 2008 at 06:30 PM
Shut up, stupid robert, nobody wants to read your crap.
Dan -
on the contrary, I like reading chassie's posts. You do not speak for me, sir.
How would react if Russia meddled in Puerto Rico by arming them, sending over "advisors", sending over 2,000 marines to train Puerto Rican troops and then attacking their chosen government.
This is exactly what we did in Georgia. Georgia is part of the Russian Federation as is the Ukraine.
We are obviously violating international law. bush, cheney and rice will be tried for crimes against peace. mcgeezer is deeply involved in the voter scam set up by rove in Georgia and Ukraine.
Dan_A_Cactus** why do we have to read your dopey and uninformed crap
Dan -
on the contrary, I like reading chassie's posts. You do not speak for me, sir.
Posted by Tawanna_LaShond
i like pan sausage, and fried eggs, over easy, hash browns, and onions, and Grits. Toast lightly buttered with blackberry jelly, or gallberry honey, or organge blossom honey.
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Well enjoy.
"bush, cheney and rice will be tried for crimes against peace."
Are there such laws?
I will not be watching, that is for sure.
Posted by PamB on August 29, 2008 at 06:25 PM
That makes 2 of us Pam.
Thank you for the discussion. See you later, and have a wonderful Labor Day weekend. Thank a worker.
Palin?
Now I don't know much about Palin, but on the face of it, this would seem to be a Dan-Quayle-like-pick. Quayle was picked to woo the woman vote. So was Palin. Let's pull up all the Quayle quotes and spread them around again.
I wonder if she can spell p-o-t-a-t-o-e.
Posted by Johne on August 29, 2008 at 06:17 PM
Hey Johne,
The chickens are coming home to roost, eh? Putin seems to be enjoying sticking his finger into Bush's eye in calling out his hypocrisy.
Like agreeing to a time-table in pulling forces out of Georgia. And like saying an invasion is all about saving lives and standing up to a tyrant and never mentioning oil. And like saying there is a precedent for unilateral action.
But this may all just be window dressing and fun show, when behind the scenes, the US and Russia, like two rival gangs securing turf, agree to threaten each other, with no real intention of fighting, in order to keep each gang in power? Conceding each other little victories and territories to enhance each their image at home, to keep up the military funding and security apparatus. ?
I say this because I can't trust either of these secretive regimes. The US and Soviet Union pulled the wool over the eyes of their populaces way too long during the cold war and kept the wasteful military economies running when we should have been in a peace and war-on-poverty-and-disease mode. We were duped, and I imagine that these rascals would try it again, given the chance.
Did Obama figure out there are only 50 states and not 57?
Well I'll leave it to the Pretend posters , have a good night robert of many names.
Tawanna,
I believe war crimes, crimes against peace and crimes against humanity are all part of International Law. As near as I can tell, bush, cheney and now mccain are guilty and should be sent to the Hague for trial.
Nuremberg Principles
Tom,
I think you are right. I never looked at it from this angle.
Chicago,
Let's google dan quayle and see if we can find anything interesting. That is a good comparison.
Text of Medvedev statement
Published: August 26 2008 14:35 | Last updated: August 26 2008 14:35
Russian President Dmitry Medvedev on Tuesday signed decrees recognising the independence of Georgia’s breakaway regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Following is a translation of his statement, which was posted on the Kremlin web site.
“My dear fellow countrymen, citizens of Russia!
You are no doubt well aware of the tragedy of South Ossetia. The night-time execution-style bombardment of Tskhinval by the Georgian troops resulted in the deaths of hundreds of our civilians. Among the dead were the Russian peacekeepers, who gave their lives in fulfilling their duty to protect women, children and the elderly.
The Georgian leadership, in violation of the UN Charter and their obligations under international agreements and contrary to the voice of reason, unleashed an armed conflict victimizing innocent civilians. The same fate lay in store for Abkhazia. Obviously, they in Tbilisi hoped for a blitz-krieg that would have confronted the world community with an accomplished fact. The most inhuman way was chosen to achieve the objective – annexing South Ossetia trough the annihilation of a whole people.
con't
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The president of Russia's statement. Doesn't quite match Mccain's, does it? Just propagandas to kick start the cold war, and help militarists stay in power? This is a big moment for change -if the truth be told.
And as DK says, Wake Up America.
Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on August 29, 2008 at 04:14 PM Statement from the Obama Campaign re: Palin
McCain seems to have made his age an issue.
I hope Palin comes out of this OK - the national stage is tough place to play and she'll be doing it without much preparation.
I don't agree with the woman on some important things but she seems like a good person from the things I've heard.
Man Bay Buchanan, is a stupid Repo female.
She's on Cnn blowing her top.
McCain/Palin = OIL$ McBushlican Palin's husband works where? The Oil Fields in Alaska? Ya don't say. Hmmmp...... No special interest here, ya say? You really think? Oild Man Mcbush$ wouldnt be Enroning U.S. about this now would he?
Does anyone know if Hillary has made a statement about the V.P. pick yet? Sarah has already insulted her.
i hope they run her over and back up and do it again...she looks like just the kind of self righteous twit that waits until the classroom fills up before telling you your fly is open...crush her.
so mcsame threw us the experience card....weird....here is begala on the palin choice:
(CNN) -- John McCain needs what Kinky Friedman calls "a checkup from the neck up."
In choosing Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to be his running mate, he is not thinking "outside the box," as some have said. More like out of his mind.
Palin a first-term governor of a state with more reindeer than people, will have to put on a few pounds just to be a lightweight. Her personal story is impressive: former fisherman, mother of five. But that hardly qualifies her to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.
For a man who is 72 years old and has had four bouts with cancer to have chosen someone so completely unqualified to become president is shockingly irresponsible. Suddenly, McCain's age and health become central issues in the campaign, as does his judgment.
In choosing this featherweight, McCain passed over Tom Ridge, a decorated combat hero, a Cabinet secretary and the former two-term governor of the large, complex state of Pennsylvania. iReport.com: 'McCain pick might be a gimmick'
He passed over Mitt Romney, who ran a big state, Massachusetts; a big company, Bain Capital; and a big event, the Olympics.
He passed over Kay Bailey Hutchison, the Texas senator who is knowledgeable about the military, good on television and -- obviously -- a woman.
He passed over Joe Lieberman, his best friend in the Senate and fellow Iraq Kool-Aid drinker.
He passed over former congressman, trade negotiator and budget director Rob Portman.
And he also passed over Mike Huckabee, the governor of Arkansas.
For months, the McCainiacs have said they will run on his judgment and experience. In his first presidential decision, John McCain has shown that he is willing to endanger his country, potentially leaving it in the hands of someone who simply has no business being a heartbeat away from the most powerful, complicated, difficult job in human history.
Dan Quayle quotes:
"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."
"Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child."
"What a waste it is to lose one's mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is."
"One word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice president, and that one word is 'to be prepared.'"
"Welcome to President Bush, Mrs. Bush, and my fellow astronauts."
"The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century."
Maybe having Palin around will help McCain keep his temper under control. He'll be afraid she'll call 911 on him if he has a tantrum
Why does CNN put on nitwit irate women like Bay Buchanan? The only issue she votes on is Pro Life, she's a one issue voter, and pundit, so why do they put her on the airways? I want to hear about all the issues. I hate one issue voters.
Posted by SandyH on August 29, 2008 at 03:58 PM
Maybe he should have picked Paris Hilton. After all, she said she was totally ready to lead!!
This web site is to sign a petition that demands Congress impeach Bush and Cheney --
http://www.democrats.com/peoplesemailnetwork/65
DEAR GOVERNOR PALIN
WE KNOW HILLARY CLINTON AND YOU ARE NO HILLARY CLINTON!!
(CNN) — John McCain first met Sarah Palin only six months ago and had just one conversation with the Alaska governor before offering her the vice presidential slot on the Republican ticket, the Arizona senator's campaign said Friday.
Posted by BlueinIdaho on August 29, 2008 at 05:22 PM
Man! She talks about as as good as Dubya! ;-P
And what's with the sloppy hairdo?
This is comedy, right? Is McInsane really as far gone as all that? They are picking this right wing-nut to take over when McCain kicks the bucket????!!!!!
WOW. Like I said, let's wait and see what Grampy McCain gets to tune in. You know he will be on early. Has to be in bed by 9:00. Remember, he does not work weekends, so any terrorists be warned--you must strike during the week!
"Democratic National Convention Ratings: 38 Million Watch Obama's Acceptance Speech
NEW YORK - Barack Obama's acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention was seen by more than 38 million people.
Nielsen Media Research said more people watched Obama speak than watched the Olympics opening ceremony in Beijing, the final "American Idol" or the Academy Awards this year. Obama talked before a live audience of 80,000 people in Denver.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/29/democratic-national-conve_n_122440.html
Obama-Biden commend McCain's VP pick
Obama called Palin “a compelling person” with a terrific personal story and said that her nomination next week is one more indicator that the country is moving forward.
“I think [it] is one more hit against that glass ceiling and I congratulate her and look forward to a vigorous debate,” said Obama. “I'm pleased with my choice for vice president Joe Biden. I think he's the man who can help me guide this country in a better direction and help working families.”
hmmm very warm waters in the gulf, thousands of oil rigs, big storm....nothing to talk about here during the pelican convention...keep moving, keep moving....
hmmmmmm, will we be having another name to add to our Republican Wall of Shame ?? I think in order to be a Republican, you have to have a criminal, a corrupt, or a perverted streak in you.
Palin, With Reputation as Reformer, Faces Probe Over Firing
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by: McClatchy Newspapers
Washington - Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, picked Friday to be Senator John McCain's running mate in his pursuit of the presidency, has a reputation as a reformer in a state where the Republican party is under siege by prosecutors in a long-running corruption probe.
Palin shocked fellow Republicans in March when she quickly endorsed Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell in his primary bid to unseat U.S. Rep. Don Young, who has been Alaska's lone member of the U.S. House for three decades. Young has been the focus of federal prosecutors, though he has not been charged with a crime. The results of Tuesday's primary will not be known for several more days, but Young currently is leading Parnell by 151 votes out of more than 90,000 cast.
Palin also acted quickly in July to call for the resignation of State Sen. John Cowdery, the oldest member of the Alaska legislature and a Republican power when he was indicted on federal bribery charges for his role in an effort to buy the support of another senator in the battle over tax legislation favored by North Slope oil producers.
Stevens and Palin remain close. Palin's former chief of staff serves as manager of Steven's re-election campaign. Stevens trounced six opponents in Tuesday's Republican primary, but faces a tough November battle against Anchorage Mayor Mark Begich. Stevens' trial on the seven-count indictment is set to begin Sept. 24 in Washington.
Palin also faces problems in her own state over what appears to have been questionable efforts by her staff to force the firing of her sister's ex-husband from the Alaska Public Safety Department. The state legislature hired a private investigator to investigate after the governor fired the head of the Public Safety Department, Walt Monegan, who says she did so because he would not fire the trooper.
After initially denying that her staff had brought pressure to have the trooper, Mike Wooten, who was involved in a child custody dispute with Palin's sister, dismissed, Palin had to reverse course after an audio recording emerged in which Frank Bailey, the governor's director of boards and commissions, urged the dismissal of the trooper.
http://www.truthout.org/article/alaska-governor-palin-faces-probe-over-firing
Why is Sen. Obama portrayed in the media and, claims it himself, that he is African American? His father was African and his mother was Caucasian. Why with this mixed ethnic background does he claim one over the other and his pick is African American? Is it our society that forces him to do so? Or, are we lacking in new terminology such as "Cauc-African American"?
The top 11 things you should know about Sarah Palin:
1) She is presently under investigation in Alaska for abuse of power
2) She strongly supports big oil (her husband even works for an oil company)
3) She stands for everything that Hillary Clinton stood against
4) She is adamantly opposed to reproductive rights for women
5) She has no federal or international experience & has only been mayor of a small town and a beauty queen!
6) She believes global warming is a farce and is opposed to listing the polar bear as an engangered species
7) She believes creationism should be taught in public schools
8) She supports drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and anywhere else big oil wants
9) She supports Pebble Mine which will destroy the richest salmon run in the world
10) She supports aerial shooting of bears and wolves in Alaska
11) She is pro-war
Posted by gregg on August 29, 2008 at 08:11 PM hmmm very warm waters in the gulf, thousands of oil rigs, big storm.
If the levies fail again - someone should be hung.
Dear Governor Palin and Senator McCAIN:
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO STOP PEOPLE FROM HAVING UNPLANNED PREGNANCIES?
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO PROVIDE EDUCATION, JOBS, HEALTH CARE AND HOUSING FOR TEENS BORN INTO POVERTY WHO CHOOSE TO NOT HAVE AN ABORTION?
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO PROMOTE UNIVERSAL SEX EDUCATION TO OUR CHILDREN?
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO PROMOTE ADOPTION OF UNWANTED, ABUSED AND NEGLECTED CHILDREN?
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO SUPPORT FAMILIES WHO PROVIDE TEMPORARY SHELTER TO DEPENDENT WARDS OF THE COURT?
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO ENSURE CHILDREN DON'T SPEND A LIFETIME IN FOSTER CARE?
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR THE LATE TEENS/YOUNG ADULTS WHO MUST TRANSFER FROM FOSTER CARE TO INDEPENDENT LIVING WITH FEW, IF ANY, RESOURCES?
DO YOU AND McCAIN WANT TO CAMPAIGN FOR AN END TO ABORTION WHEN YOU ARE PARTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR SO MANY PRE-TEENS, TEENS AND WOMEN, INCLUDING RAPE AND INCSET VICTIMS, WHO CHOOSE NOT TO OR SIMPLY CAN NOT GIVE BIRTH?
ARE YOU SUCH AN ELITIST THAT YOU DENY THE PROBLEM EXISTS IN YOUR COMMUNITY, YET YOU WOULD GLADLY IMPRISON WOMEN AND THEIR MEDICAL PRACTITIONERS FOR THEIR DECISION TO HAVE A MEDICALLY ASSISTED ABORTION?
ARE YOU PREPARED TO FOOL THE AMERICAN PUBLIC AGAIN SO THAT YOU HAVE POWER OVER OUR DOMAIN FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS?
HAVE YOU NO COMPASSION OR HUMILITY, ARE THE TWO OF YOU THAT MUCH OF AN ELITIST, MEMBERS OF A SPECIAL ARISTOCRACY?
The hurricane will probably hve no effect on the weather in St Paul, MN.
Posted by JudyK on August 29, 2008 at 08:11 PM Why is Sen. Obama portrayed in the media and, claims it himself, that he is African American?
Heard a question like that posed on National Public Radio - you can find the answer there, Sally. "Talk of the Nation"
judy, this is a very good question. if you swallow some belladonna and get in your closet and crazy glue the door shut behind you sarah palin will send a fairy godmother to answer your question...bye, bye...
sally, your mom called and said that you and dan should not forget your benzene enemas tonight...she left the bag hanging from the shower rod in wood shed.....
gregg -
on that thing about her husband working for an oil company -
I think this is a dead end issue, as he is a blue collar worker, union member. Not management. Works with his hands.
OK, I have read all the links, and the comments about Palin. I keep thinking "They've gotta be kidding", then I shiver and remember that they are serious. I don't know if anyone here is familiar with Leonard Wibberly, who was a political satirist. Hwrote "The Mouse That Roared" among others. It sounds like a plot he'd have dreamed up.
I'd say truth in this case is not only stranger than fiction but is making much less sense.
That remark about "He didn't pick her for president." is especially scary.
Forget McCain's cancer, the old coot is senile, and extremely ill tempered. All he has to do is throw one of his infamous tantrums too many, and he will pop an aneurysm, and she would be president.
If he gets elected, I doubt that he'd last through the second year, unless they have him doped up on 'ludes, which is also not something that gives me warm fuzzies.
OMG!!!! The Republican party is having a mental breakdown!!! Where's the guys in the white coats! Quick!!!!
Greggy, your mom called and she finally has a customer who wants a blow job and was wondering if you could run change of a quarter down to her stand.
If he gets elected, I doubt that he'd last through the second year,
Posted by Butte on August 29, 2008 at 08:23 PM
By that time the lovely Sarah would have 2 years as VP to add to her resume. A resume that already dwarfs Hussein Obama's.
Posted by Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 08:18 PM The hurricane will probably hve no effect on the weather in St Paul, MN.
Sally, MPR, Midday interviewed a St. Paul cabbie bemoaning the fact that "Commie protesters have a stage 80 yards away from the Xcel Energy Center but but cabs can't get within 4 blocks."
Was that your brother?
You see the Democrats did it backwards. You are supposed to put the experienced one on top of the ticket and the inexperienced one as VP.
Maybe they will get it right next time.
11) She is pro-war
Posted by gregg on August 29, 2008 at 08:13 PM
You forgot number 12 gregg. She is a fucking neocon slut.
Posted by Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 08:34 PM You are supposed to put the experienced one on top of the ticket and the inexperienced one as VP.
Actually - I prefer a vice president who is ready to be president - regardless of party.
This time around, Democrats have a ticket with two qualified candidates.
Given, McCain's choice - it looks to me like Republicans don't have anyone on their ticket qualified.
mcgeezer doesn't give a damn about America or Americans. It's all about money for his reich friends, kissing the bony asses of the evangelical freaks and getting elected.
"What we do know about Palin is that she's a soccer mom with five kids (two of them named Trig and Track...go figure), knows how to cheer on a youth hockey team, and probably looks great in a one-piece bathing suit (hey, I'm not being sexist; she's a 1984 "Miss Wasilla" and a 2nd place runner-up in the "Miss Alaska" beauty pageant).(the other two contestents were Huskies) But wait, there's more. Prior to running the huge Metropolis of Wasilla, she served two terms on the City Council and ran unsuccessfully for lieutenant governor. And, she's worked as a sports reporter for local Anchorage television stations. Hardly a stupendous resume, although she's clearly a big hit in many Alaskan circles.
But when the guy at the top of the ticket, at 72, would be the oldest president in U.S. history, and his health remains a concern given his battle with Melanoma, Palin would be more than a heartbeat away from the Oval Office. Is there any sane American who thinks Palin even remotely has the experience and readiness to be president? Commander-in-Chief? Leader of the free world? Is she who we'd want defending our citizens from terrorists and from our enemies abroad? She's so unqualified it's offensive. Her appointment is so inexplicably irrational that we should seriously begin to wonder if there's some sort of early senility settling in with McCain. And he doesn't help his own case when he's on record saying the only real qualification for vice president is whether that person can step in and be president. If he truly thinks Palin is that person, he's worse off than we think.
In one fell swoop McCain has taken the whole experience issue off the table. This had been a key weapon in his arsenal against Obama. Palin is younger than Obama, less experienced, has less national name recognition and zero foreign policy experience. The real take-away here is that in his first major "presidential" decision, McCain so clearly demonstrates poor judgement that it's obvious that it's he, not Palin, who should be nowhere near the Oval Office.
http://ostroyreport.blogspot.com/2008/08/mccains-birthday-gift-to-obama-gov.html
No Way, No How, would Hillary want her supporters voting for a Pro Gun, Anti Abortion, Home Schooling Bimbo, whose experience consists of town council, mayor of 6000 eskimos, and Governor for a year and a half.
You forgot number 12 gregg. She is a fucking neocon slut.
Posted by Johne on August 29, 2008 at 08:40 PM
Really. This is uncalled for. On what basis do you call her a slut? Are all women 'sluts' to you, Johne?
I don't see a slut. I see a woman who raises a family with her husband and went into politics at the grass root level and got elected to a state office, and has been picked to run on a Presidential ticket. I don't agree with her politics, but as a feminist it really really burns me to see a woman at this level being called a slut for no other reason than she is in the opposition party.
Must we demonize EVERYONE who does not agree with us? Can't we defeat them on the basis of ideas? I say that our positions defeat their positions. I do not say that they must roast in hell for having them.
Gee whiz.
the POINT of the fear of Hurricane Gustav hitting New Orleans, for those of little minds, is that the Republican Convention will run , sharing visual TV clips of the Convention, then the repeat what happened with katrina, where Bush spent 12 days before he appeared and gave a shit! THAT IS THE BIG DEAL!
They are considering not having bush nor Cheney there is that happens, because of the bad image it will give to them all!
LMAO. the sins come back to haunt, don't they!!!!!
Betcha old Reverand Dobson wishes he had kept his bad prayers to himself now!!! these guys think God is not paying attention sometimes, but guess what! He sees it all! Even mail fraud.
Send bush and cheney to the Hague NOW. Try them for war crimes. crimes against peace and crimes against humanity, find them guilty and hange their asses in Moscow.
"Certain forces in the United States could have initiated the conflict in Georgia to create an advantage to one of the US presidential candidates. Vladimir Putin voiced this opinion during his recent interview with CNN."
"This point of view appeared in Russia soon after Georgia’s aggression in South Ossetia. Prominent Russian politicians said that the conflict had been orchestrated by the USA because Georgia, being a tiny state, would have never invaded South Ossetia without the USA’s permission. The version also said that the war in South Ossetia had been plotted by Vice President Dick Cheney not to let Barack Obama take the White House as a result of the November elections."
More........
Why is Obama called an "African-American"? Because of the infamous "one drop" rule that was instituted in the South during the days of slavery.
The rule was that as long as a person had "one drop" of African blood, they were not white, they were "negro" or African and could be sold into slavery.
Later that rule was used during the reign of segregation in the South to keep people from inter-marrying through the miscegenation laws, and to bar people from from their civil rights. Some people have continued it because of prejudice, but most people do so through habit, not knowing the origins of the practice. If you want turn the term around, stand it on its head, whatever, hey, maybe it will make some people think. It wouldn't hurt.
Posted by Tawanna_LaShond on August 29, 2008 at 08:45 PM Really. This is uncalled for. On what basis do you call her a slut? Are all women 'sluts' to you, Johne?
I have a hard time telling Johne and Sally apart myself and I've told both of them that.
Some of Sarah's supporters consider her a MILF - Sally is one of them.
They support MILF sites rather than the GOP.
Big money supports the GOP
I'm not sure which is more pornographic myself - but I'm not a woman.
Tawanna,
The likes of hannity, limbaugh, cunningham, savage, coulter, ad infinitum have called Hillary a hell of a lot worse names. I believe in fighting fire with fire.
Iraqis say get the hell out !
Iraqi PM changes team negotiating U.S. troops pact(Reuters)
BAGHDAD - Iraq's Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki has reshuffled and replaced the head of a negotiating team seeking to finalise an agreement on the future presence of U.S. troops here, a senior Iraqi politician said on Thursday.
U.S. and Iraqi officials have been locked in discussions over the security pact, which will provide a legal basis for U.S. troops to remain in Iraq after a United Nations mandate expires at the end of this year.
Maliki replaced officials on the negotiating team, which had been headed by Deputy Foreign Minister Mohammad al-Haj Hamoud, said Mahmoud Othman, a senior member of the Kurdish bloc in parliament.
The new team is headed by national security advisor Mowaffaq al-Rubaie, Othman said. He described the move as a "normal" step that would allow more senior officials to make decisions.
"There was a technical delegation which has done its part in the negotiations and achieved results," Othman said. The government has not so far confirmed any changes to the team.
U.S. and Iraqi technical negotiators have completed a draft agreement, which must be approved by Iraqi leaders and by parliament, but negotiations continue and U.S. officials stress there is no deal yet.
Maliki said earlier in the week that both sides had agreed that the approximately 144,000 U.S. troops stationed in Iraq would be required to leave the country by the end of 2011.
Washington had long refused to be held to an firm timeline for leaving Iraq, but it appears to have softened its objections as violence drops dramatically in Iraq and the Maliki government becomes increasingly assertive in security talks.
Iraq has also said it would like a future deal to end routine U.S. patrols of Iraqi cities and towns by mid-2009.
but I'm not a woman.
Posted by dorsano on August 29, 2008 at 08:54 PM
That's okay. I'll try not to hold that against you.
Just kidding :)
Posted by Butte on August 29, 2008 at 08:53 PM Why is Obama called an "African-American"?
Because today, people like Sally call Obama a Negro - it's something they've paid Rush Limbaugh to teach them.
Pam, God writes straight with crooked lines. I think he's trying to sent a message, but the right wing Evangelicals and the rest of the Repubs are just not getting it. LOL!!!
I believe in fighting fire with fire.
Posted by Johne on August 29, 2008 at 08:56 PM
I believe in fighting smart.
sorry sally i'm too busy trying to unglue your mom's lips from the tailpipe of my car. she crazy glued herself there after reading some of your posts...
Posted by Tawanna_LaShond on August 29, 2008 at 08:58 PM That's okay. I'll try not to hold that against you.
Good - I've got plenty of other things I'm working on so that people don't hold them against me - glad to know I'm on the right track with that one. :)
Posted by dorsano on August 29, 2008 at 08:58 PM
Nah, Rush didn't teach them, he is only enabling them, giving them their hate fixes. Race hatred is an addiction like drugs, and alcoholism, which goes hand in hand with such beliefs.
sorry sally i'm too busy trying to unglue your mom's lips from the tailpipe of my car. she crazy glued herself there after reading some of your posts...
Posted by gregg on August 29, 2008 at 09:01 PM
LOL, gregg! Not a pretty sight. nice of you to help Bernice out !
I think Danny is having a colonoscopy tomorrow. They are going to try and find his head up his arse! Good Luck, Old man!
I am heading out Dems. Will blog ya all tomorrow!
Carville is on Larry King live, Debating with a Neo Con Bimbo.
Good evening, all.
I don't agree with the woman on some important things but she seems like a good person from the things I've heard.
Posted by dorsano on August 29, 2008 at 07:16 PM
These good sort of good people are destroying this country.
I expect the person who wants to be Vice President to know what the job requires...not have somebody brief her on it at her leisure. She also said the same thing about Iraq.
That's not good enough. She failed my interview. If we had been given a chance to really interview Bush, would we be in the fix we are now?
I wish her son well. His mother doesn't seem to realize the danger he's in.
Posted by Johne on August 29, 2008 at 08:56 PM I believe in fighting fire with fire.
Here's the deal, Johne - everyone here has their minds made up
If you want to "fight" - get involved with the campaign - but if you go door kocking
don't torch anyone's house - regardless of which party they belong to.
If you want to come here to chat - that works too
I find sally boring - but maybe other's here don't.
Posted by Butte on August 29, 2008 at 09:06 PM
Nah, Rush didn't teach them, he is only enabling them, giving them their hate fixes.
I guess it's a win-win then - Rush gets rich - they get high.
Posted by SandyH on August 29, 2008 at 09:12 PM These good sort of good people are destroying this country.
That's a debate that we'll win and hopefully we we'll all come away from the task richer.
She failed my interview.
At least you interviewed her - John McCain had his staff do it - the same ones that keep him abreast of how many houses he has.
I wish her son well.
So do I.
i watched a bit of sarah's thing with mcsame. it really reminded me of a lot of elaine's bits on seinfeld...i can't wait to see her dance...
sally is an acidic piece of crap that needs to be ridiculed and offended as much as possible. it comes here for that so doing so is a kindness...
this sarah moron is for teaching creationism in public schools and not allowing abortions in cases of rape and incest, and if someone asks her i bet she will be against contraception...she should really rack up those hillary votes....IS ROVE OUT OF HIS FRIGGIN MIND OR WHAT!!
Given, McCain's choice - it looks to me like Republicans don't have anyone on their ticket qualified.
Posted by dorsano on August 29, 2008 at 08:42 PM
They really don't seem to take these jobs and the responsibilities involved seriously, do they? And they don't seem to think that there has been any negative consequences because of it.
I wonder what Palin's life would have been like if she wasn't married to a man with a good union job? She might not have had medical insurance. Does she realize that this could be a problem for a family with five children?
I'm really interested to find out her views of these kind of issues...not why she likes mooseburgers.
I'm always surprised when Republicans are union members but reject the idea outright for others.
IS ROVE OUT OF HIS FRIGGIN MIND OR WHAT!!
Posted by gregg on August 29, 2008 at 09:32 PM
Gregg i think all of these Republican are out of there minds. Every Repo Pundit that i have seen on TV today, thinks this woman is qualified to be President.
Posted by PamB on August 29, 2008 at 09:09 PM I am heading out Dems. Will blog ya all tomorrow!
Goodnight, Pam
Hey Pammy, we've been having and argument and we have a lot of money on your answer. Are your Depends for number 1 or number 2?
Oh greggy your momma called and she doesn't need change for a quarter anymore, the customer opted for a rimjob too so he used up the entire quarter.
Posted by SandyH on August 29, 2008 at 09:43 PM I wonder what Palin's life would have been like if she wasn't married to a man with a good union job?
She is a unique voice - that's why I hope that she comes out of this OK.
I have absolutely no problems with a GOP that is Union Friendly.
So I guess someone will have to ask her about how she feels about workers - and their rights to organize and bargain collectively -
and what she thinks of the anti-union messages framed by Rush Limbaugh and Karl Rove.
Seems like a chance to acquire some good experience to me.
I wonder what Palin's life would have been like if she wasn't married to a man with a good union job?
Posted by SandyH on August 29, 2008 at 09:43 PM
His union job is part time. His main job is as a commercial fisherman (salmon) and he owns his own business.
Alaska's economy is very dependent on oil -- taxes from its oil fields account for more than 90 percent of its revenues. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5637231 --- Some didn’t like the energy package for various reasons, but they also didn’t want to return home having to explain why the state’s coffers are filling up with billions from oil revenue, but there was no help for the state’s residents. http://www.newsminer.com/news/2008/aug/07/alaska-legislature-passes-1200-energy-rebate/
IS ROVE OUT OF HIS FRIGGIN MIND OR WHAT!!
Posted by gregg on August 29, 2008 at 09:32 PM
They were pretty desperate, gregg. Like everything else with numbers, Republicans were not sharing with us the true situation in the swing states.
My guess is that they were losing even the conservative Base. Palin is a temporay diversion from the bad news.
It's not going to stop the bleeding, but it will shore them up until enough voters realize that this is a 42-year-old woman...who has no foreign policy knowledge nor any practical domestic problem-solving experience besides what is essentially local politics.
She thinks everything is just fine...and that's what the corporate media will let her tell people till the price of gasoline goes up to $4 again or Russia invades Poland.
Then the diversion becomes a huge liability.
howdy fine dems. does this thing still work?
greg- you've got mail, but since i'm here now i'll say it again- wtf?
i was at the barber today, and i asked the question, and although he and his wife are more conservative than i am (more than i'd care to know), they were wondering what the point was with this choice.
the man has melanoma, he's 72 and he's showing significant signs of dementia. wtf?
Posted by Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 09:56 PM His main job is as a commercial fisherman (salmon) and he owns his own business.
His part-time job is salmon fishing - and it's been run amok by climate change and over fishing
So much so - that they all signing on to harvest regulations.
Posted by Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 09:56 PM
Independent fishermen like farmers must hold jobs to get medical insurance. It's too expensive to buy on your own and it's not available to those who have pre-existing conditions like Palin's child with Down's Syndrome.
Try to face reality for a change and stop acting like your are rich and don't have a care in the world.
Posted by queencityjefro on August 29, 2008 at 10:02 PM howdy fine dems.
Hey - it's been awhile.
haven't been here in a while. howdy fine dems. i guess hitting the refresh button is still not a good idea?
what is the assemblies of god governors name? i've forgotten already.
Posted by Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 09:50 PM Hey Pammy, we've been having and argument
No, Sally - you've been masturbating - don't count me in that
Posted by queencityjefro on August 29, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Hi, jefro.
I've found that most Republicans and Independents have stopped pretending.
They are weighing the choice between a black man who might not be as progressive as Clinton with a maverick Republican whom they've never really liked and who is obviously declining in health.
I don't think enough of them are willing to go down with ship with McSame at the helm. Times change and sometimes it's better to just let go and try something new...that's were the Undecided are.
But we have to make sure our Base votes and these new voters come out amass and actually vote.
I'm feeling that old familiar feeling that Democrats are getting too over-confident. This thing is going to be close no matter how smart the Obama strategists are. Or how much anxiety Americans are feeling.
My regards to the family. Say hello to jen.
Good night, folks. We canvass early tomorrow.
hey dors. it has. i got tired of waiting on the dnc to fix this thing. although i will say right here that i do appreciate howard dean looking into it. it took a few weeks or more, but it does seem to be working better than it did.
hail mary, full of grace, please let me win this thing and then after that maybe you could let me somehow figure out how to ditch the current bag and move in with my veep?
how does this thing work these days? obviously not up to full speed, but i haven't been here in a while so have no idea what the latest tricks are for playing the game of now you see um now you don't posting
nite sandy. let us not imagine that the pow who sold us the keating five is a maverick. that is his own fantasy and the fantasy of our corporate fed press who are only too glad to allow him to continue the sham. just ask the telecom lobbyist who he got into bed with in more ways than one. he is no maverick. that is make-believe
i'm guessing that this pick was shoved down his phony-ass mouth like everything else that has happened to him since he decided to run again- maybe dobson told him he'd pick her or else?
he's the biggest phony that that party has ever run in a major election. the guy that they've had running things since the last two elections knew full well what a phony he is
Posted by SandyH on August 29, 2008 at 10:16 PM Good night, folks. We canvass early tomorrow.
Good night, Sandy.
Posted by queencityjefro on August 29, 2008 at 10:18 PM hey dors. it has. i got tired of waiting on the dnc to fix this thing.
I know - but any fix needs to include a mechanism for us to boot the likes of Sally.
All the action is on Obama blog - they all are having a great time there.
I've got some friends here - that's why I pop in from time to time.
Posted by queencityjefro on August 29, 2008 at 10:20 PM what are the latest tricks are for playing the game of now you see um now you don't posting
:)
I'm no expert - but I use the "Preview" button a lot.
dors- i'm just not that active with the posting part of the internet (or tubes as ted stevens likes to call them) speaking of ted stevens, what is up with all that corruption in alaska politics? apparently the baggage of all of that didn't enter into their minds when they picked their airy pentecostal beauty queen? hey, who am i to question a party that has as much scandal as they do- i mean after all, they are running one of the kingpins of the keating savings and loan scandal who has his head so far up the ass of the christian nationalists that it is hard to tell whether he's a pow or a martyr
i think they should drop the pow thing and just say that he's such a maverick that he's willing to compromise every principle he's ever stood for to win the votes of just one more crazy-eyed christian nationalist- just as long as they'll elect him.
yeah dors that and to try to sell those boxes of self shining shoes you have stacked up in your basement.
that would take him from just your standard pow who happened to marry a millionaire into that martyr for jesus category. then this vp choice begins to make perfect sense. maybe after he's annointed the next air-headed leader of this crowd, he steps down due to recurrence of the melanoma and we have our beauty queen (it just occurred to me that he does like abba, he must have had that song playing in his head this morning- "i'm john mccain and i'm diggin' the dancin' queen... she'll make everything allright"
Posted by queencityjefro on August 29, 2008 at 10:42 PM i think they should drop the pow thing and just say that he's such a maverick that ...
When it comes down to that question, Jeff - I trust the people who protect us. If they see any politician overplaying the POW or whatever it is war card -
they will be his or her harshest critic - I have absolutely no doubt in mind on that one.
Posted by gregg on August 29, 2008 at 10:46 PM yeah dors that and to try to sell those boxes of self shining shoes you have stacked up in your basement.
Yes I do - you interested?
i've read a number of things (and talked to people currently either in the military or connected with it post-retirement) that suggest that things have changed dramatically there in the last 8 years. there is little respect left for the party in power- they are not the protectors of our military and most are well aware of that now.
Why is Sen. Obama portrayed in the media and, claims it himself, that he is African American? His father was African and his mother was Caucasian. Why with this mixed ethnic background does he claim one over the other and his pick is African American? Is it our society that forces him to do so? Or, are we lacking in new terminology such as "Cauc-African American"?Posted by JudyK on August 29, 2008 at 08:11 PM
Umm, precisely because his father was AFRICAN and his mother was AMERICAN. See, it works out that way that most people born to someone from anothr country and and American are citizens of both. I suppose he should rightly be called Kenyan American, but African is close enough. He sure has more of a claim to it than most who call themselves that.
Duh.
I have a hard time telling Johne and Sally apart myself and I've told both of them that.Posted by dorsano on August 29, 2008 at 08:54 PM
Me, I just tend to ignore both. If I didn't, my language would be even worse than normal
Posted by TheGreatGazoo on August 29, 2008 at 10:53 PM Inconsistent idiot.
no need to post your autobiography here - we've lived it.
Obama - is informing our county of just how similar you and the new and improved Senator McCain are.
I wish him God's speed.
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You'll come out better in the end - that's what makes us liberals.
time to head off. nite dems. i wish that the fundagelical christian nationalist wack-jobs would heed the calls of some of their own (like that young guy that left the current administration or the one that they originally put in charge of the faith-based money grab) and take a number of years off to just be patient and wait for the second coming instead of trying to hasten its coming by pushing more air-headed losers on us through this moribund thing they call a political party that has as its spokesperson an idiotic piece of shit (turdblossom) and a tired tv channel. someone needs to tell them that soon there will be plenty of time to visit their child-leader's presidential library and when they get tired of that fantasy, they can visit the museum just south of here where they can ride dinosaurs with adam and eve and sarah palin
Posted by GregL on August 29, 2008 at 11:04 PM Duh.
Hey, Greg - glad to catch you before I log.
Why is Sen. Obama portrayed in the media and, claims it himself, that he is African American? His father was African and his mother was Caucasian. Why with this mixed ethnic background does he claim one over the other and his pick is African American? Is it our society that forces him to do so? Or, are we lacking in new terminology such as "Cauc-African American"?
Posted by JudyK on August 29, 2008 at 08:11 PM
Well, technically the correct term in his case would be "mulatto".
Posted by Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 11:18 PM Posted by JudyK on August 29, 2008 at 08:11 PM
talking to yourself - masturbating - explain the difference to me - I'm intrigued - for about 5 minutes because I hear my wife getting ready for bed
Ooops - I guess I don't have 5 minutes - sorry, Sally.
Good night, all.
i'll take the self shining shoes if you'll buy a gross of these zero cholesterol hot wings...
Gee whiz.Posted by Tawanna_LaShond on August 29, 2008 at 08:49 PM
Ok, those aren't the words *I* would use, but the rest of that post captured my sentiments exactly. :)
we are so lucky the presidummie saw into this guys soul...
MOSCOW (Reuters) - Vladimir Putin launched a fresh attack on the United States, saying U.S. advisers were involved in the Georgian conflict and accusing the White House of provoking the crisis to help Republicans win the U.S. election.
Russia is fighting back against a storm of condemnation from the United States and European governments for sending troops into Georgia and recognizing its two breakaway regions as independent states.
Prime Minister Putin's comments, broadcast by German television station ARD on Friday, expanded on remarks in an interview with CNN shown on Thursday which the White House said were "patently false".
"We know there were a lot of U.S. advisers (in Georgia) ... but instructors, teachers and personnel for military weapons should be on firing ranges and in the teaching centers -- but where were they? They were in the zone of military operations.
"And that pushes one to the conclusion that the leadership of the United States knew about the action that was being prepared and moreover probably took part in it," Putin said.
"If the leadership of the United States had sanctioned that, then I have the suspicion that it was done specially to organise a small, victorious war," he said.
"And if it didn't work, then to create from Russia the appearance of an enemy and on that ground unite the electorate around one presidential candidate, of course the ruling party."
Dunno about the rest of you, but fighting fire with fire sounds like a pretty good way of making sure everything burns to the ground. Is that what we want to accomplish?
Oh my...
Sarah Palin is accused of using her position as Governor of Alaska to pressure her Public Safety Commissioner, Walt Monegan, to fire a state trooper, Mike Wooten. After she fired Monegan, suspicions arose that it was because he refused to cooperate.Why would she want this state trooper fired? It turns out Wooten went through a messy divorce with Sarah Palin's sister, Molly McCann. The Palin family had previously made several complaints and allegations against Wooten.
According to the Associated Press they accused Wooten of drinking beer while in his patrol car, illegal hunting, firing a Taser at his 11-year-old stepson, and threatening to kill Sarah Palin's father.Wooten was suspended over the allegations for five days in 2006 but is still on the job.
So basically, it looks like the Palin family has it in for Mike Wooten and Sarah Palin crossed the line and used her power as Governor to get him fired.
Looks like she is going to fit right in with the Bush/Cheney/Rove/McLame crowd...
Mike Huckabee on Hannity says Palin more qualified to be president than obama. So that needs to be dealt with and I'm sure Obama gets this. I don't think that being a mayor of 9000 people compares with representing a district in chicago in the state senate, no way, no how, no palin. Now it's like Palin is running for president against obama. This is really strange. God these crooks are billionares for a reason, somehow this is all twisted now that we are the party that don't respect women. WTF Oh well she is pro life even in incest and rape, so the only women he will get will be ones in the south he was going to get anyway. No feminist is anti-choice.
So if you are a 14 year old girl that is raped by your father and you become pregnant from that rape, Sara Palin believes that that 14 year old child should go through emotional and physical trama for nine months and give birth to her brother. This is very sick. NO WAY, NO HOW
So her husband takes care of the kids. Oh that's going to go over big in the south. She is the man and he is the women. Now they have a newborn special needs child, not that all children have needs, but a special needs child needs ten times more care in the early stages of their lives to reach their full potential. Who will be the primary care giver of their child, the husband, that's fine. Can you care for a new born, special needs child and take care of your responsibility as the VP of the United States. Is she choosing a job over her child. I don't think this goes over well either. When you make the choice to be a mother, you have made the choice to be a present, loving, nurturing mother. She will be abandoning her child.
Hey, I better make myself clear before I get it from the women. Many women have careers and jobs and have children and are wonderful mothers. But they are not the VP of the US.
When you make the choice to be a mother, you have made the choice to be a present, loving, nurturing mother. She will be abandoning her child.
Posted by newsjunkie on August 30, 2008 at 01:13 AM
Hillary abandoned her child along time ago.
Posted by newsjunkie on August 30, 2008 at 01:01 AM
If you are a 25 year old woman thats likes to go out have fun, get drunk and screw around and get pregnant, is that a reason to go out and have an abortion? people like that should be sterilized. The y are nothing but irresponcible asshats for continually producing little bastards for the taxpayers and the system to pay for.
I hear my wife getting ready for bed
Posted by dorsano on August 29, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Be nice to Gordon tonight
Oh greggy your momma called and she doesn't need change for a quarter anymore, the customer opted for a rimjob too so he used up the entire quarter.
Posted by Sally-* on August 29, 2008 at 09:52 PM
I bet she even takes out her dentures
We've all heard it--, "tolerance," sometimes noted in terms of being "intolerant." Have you ever noticed that the left uses these terms to describe anyone who doesn't agree with their viewpoint? They reserve their most biting and acidic comments for Christianity. And these charged terms are designed to try to put people "in their place."If you don't agree with homosexuality, you're branded a "homophobe." However, looking at this carefully, the same people who throw around the term "homophobe" are actually heterophobes. In a very, very real sense they are terrified that a rational person might reject having homosexuality forced on their children in public schools against their wills, or might disagree with their vulgar displays of public masturbation and public sexual acts during their "gay pride parades," and of all things, that reasonable people might disagree with their insane lust to push for "gay marriage." Let's not forget that no other culture in the history of civilization has ever had gay marriage--, not even in the "fashionably gay" Roman days before its collapse. Looking at this objectively, one really must wonder if those who use the word "homophobe" aren't actually insane with their heterophobia--, the sheer terror of marriage being defined as a man, a woman, and biological offspring. What a novel and strange concept to these heterophobes. And as they shout platitudes about "equality" and "discrimination," never forget that NO ONE is stopping them from being married to a member of the opposite sex, so if there is no discrimination, then the real agenda is to change marriage.
NEO-CON If you are a 25 year old man that likes to go out to have fun, get drunk and screw around and get women pregnant they should put on a condom, if not, they should be sterilized as to prevent unwanted pregnancy. They are nothing but irresponsable asshats for continually producing little bastards for the taxpayers and the system to pay for.
Good grief, John McCain doesn't even know this person for VP, he met her once and then talked to her on the phone. Listen here jerk, this country is in a ditch thanks to you and your rediculous excuse for a party. It's all adding up that John McCane has no mind.
John F. Kennedy The 35th president of the United States.
We’ll use Vietnam to prove our strength.“Now we have a problem in trying to make our power credible, and Vietnam looks like the place.”
Posted by newsjunkie on August 30, 2008 at 02:10 AM
Now that post took alot of energy to produce
What the child rapist, saved today by Supreme Court liberals, did to his 8-year-old stepdaughter By Michelle Malkin • June 25, 2008 01:20 PMAnthony Kennedy and the leftists on the Supreme Court ruled this morning that what child rapist Patrick Kennedy did to his 8-year-old stepdaughter is a crime that should not be punishable by death.
The MSM will tiptoe around what child rapist Patrick Kennedy actually did.
I’m reprinting the full description of the crime from Kennedy’s ruling below in the interest of fully informing you all (warning - explicit). Is the death penalty “not a proportional punishment” to this crime? You decide. And the next time liberals wave the “For the children” banner, ask them about L.H.
Posted by newsjunkie on August 30, 2008 at 02:18 AM
Jerk? ok dipshit, If you are so friggin smart and have all the answers, why aren´t YOU running for president?
Didn't know that little tid bit did ya Connie Boy. You really need to watch Keith Olberman on MSNBC you could be friggin smart too!
The clearest evidence that choosing Palin as the VP was a good move can be seen in the panic with which the Democrats are responding to it. Any "lack of experience" attacks at Palin will surely reflect badly on Obama, but personal attacks on for Palin herself are almost certain to backfire. Obama is a loyal servant of the Chicago Democrat machine; Palin bucked her own party in several cases (a trait that probably endeared her to Maverick). Palin strikes me as the kind of woman that other women would like: pretty, but not too; smart, but not too; and safely married with kids so she's not a rival. Palin's husband seems like the kind of two-fisted guy that makes liberal men feel inadequate...plus he's an Eskimo, godssake, which should make the identity-politics and victim-group liberals' heads explode.
The clearest evidence that choosing Palin as the VP was a good move can be seen in the panic with which the Democrats are responding to it. Any "lack of experience" attacks at Palin will surely reflect badly on Obama, but personal attacks on for Palin herself are almost certain to backfire. Obama is a loyal servant of the Chicago Democrat machine; Palin bucked her own party in several cases (a trait that probably endeared her to Maverick). Palin strikes me as the kind of woman that other women would like: pretty, but not too; smart, but not too; and safely married with kids so she's not a rival. Palin's husband seems like the kind of two-fisted guy that makes liberal men feel inadequate...plus he's an Eskimo, godssake, which should make the identity-politics and victim-group liberals' heads explode.
As Governor of Alaska Palin has been to Iraq as many times as Senator Barack Obama.
She also knows the importance of completing military missions and not leaving a battlefront to al-Qaeda or Iran…
Unlike Barack Obama or Joe Biden who both voted for defeat.
Palin also has more executive experience than both Biden and Obama.
Palin has 80% approval rating in Alaska– the highest in the nation.
What an awesome embarrassing mess.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26458400/
Obama/Biden 2008
Because they know what they are doing.
Sarah Palin "I admit, someone with only two years of experience in a top elected position isn't ready for President. But I'm not running for President. Barack Obama is."
Obama, a young man in good health, could have a heart attack, die, making Biden president. It is possible.
What is far more likely is that McCain,with his famous temper, will have a melt down, have a heart attack, die making Palin president. (assuming McCain were to be elected)
The thought of Palin, as president, dealing with the possibility of nuclear warfare is a scary thought.
Can you visualize her sitting across the table trying to negotiate with Putin?
When you look at it in this context, it becomes a question of who is better to step in and assume the responsibilities of the presidency, Palin or Biden? For me, that is an easy choice, the answer is BIDEN!
If you watched the body language when McCain was introducing Palin, he seemed a little too enamored with her, a little to rapt. Old John may have nominated her as "eye candy" for his personal enjoyment around the White House. While this might be a relatively innocent diversion for an old man to quietly enjoy, it might well show that this election is all about him and not about the American people and what is best for us.
I am not casting dispersions at M/s Palin, she appears to be innocent in this: she simply wants to be vice president. However, as M/s Palin gets more involved in this election, she may find that she is in way over her head.
On the other hand, if McCain were to be elected and Palin were to have to complete his single term in office, we might be pleasantly surprised.
However, it is all a moot question. I suspect, that in two weeks or so the irrational "Maverick" will decide he has made a mistake, ask her to step aside and he will replace her. All of which will be another wild move in his run for the W/H.
If you watched the body language when McCain was introducing Palin, he seemed a little too enamored with her, a little to rapt. Old John may have nominated her as "eye candy" for his personal enjoyment around the White House. Whata Dopey thing to say, this is John McCain not SLick Willy Clinton! While this might be a relatively innocent diversion for an old man to quietly enjoy, it might well show that this election is all about him and not about the American people and what is best for us.
I am not casting dispersions at M/s Palin, she appears to be innocent in this: she simply wants to be vice president. However, as M/s Palin gets more involved in this election, she may find that she is in way over her head.
On the other hand, if McCain were to be elected and Palin were to have to complete his single term in office, we might be pleasantly surprised.
However, it is all a moot question. I suspect, that in two weeks or so the irrational "Maverick" will decide he has made a mistake, ask her to step aside and he will replace her. After two weeks it will be out of John McCains hands, the convention will have nominated her and he cannot fire her. All of which will be another wild move in his run for the W/H.
Posted by goodfoe on August 30, 2008 at 05:04 AM
She had a baby in April. She knew that baby was going to be afflicted with Downs syndrome. She did not have him killed as you all would have done. She is true to her convictions.
And she has a lifetime membership in the NRA!
They will work on her voice a little bit as they did with Hillary and then she will be an awesome VP.
The nomination of M/s Palin will prove to be either a disastrous move or a brilliant one by John McCain.
I suspect it will be the latter. If John McCain were elected and if he lived two or three years to give M/s Palin time to begin to learn the complexities of Washington and the world, then she might well be a capable president when McCain dies in office. But gambling on old Jon not dying of cancer or a heart attack in the next two or three years is a gamble the Ameican public is not going to be willing to take.
Those white "lunch pail" blue collar voters who are not to sure about Obama are really going to be scared of a nice, very attractive lady with only one years experience running a state government in one of our smallest states (population wise)
Old John has just handed the election to Obama. Thanks John, I can sleep moch better now!
M/s Palin's voice is too shrill which is another thing that will turn off those blue collar voters. The last thing these white males will want to listen to is a shrill, aggressive woman. Thanks, John. It was a brilliant move, ...for the Democratic Party!...It is almost like old John is already conceding the election and just wants to have a little fun before he goes down in flames, again!
I've heard that there are many unhappy Republicans on this choice of McCain's, that many were expecting Romney or Pawlenti. They are saying it is a BAD choice. Palin may be disqualified because of a very real legislative investigation on an abuse of power in her active governing, an active case against her exists and it is known there were 20 plus pressure contacts to Monegan to fire Wooten and then he gets fired!!! Details:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/26463356#26463336
This is pathetic! No experience, problems already on her current post. A baby with special needs and she tosses it at a nanny? Even the most conservative and cautious women are not going to like that. She should be at home. Or is there some kind of double standard between some women? What kind of example is this?
Is it a strategy move by McCain & Co.? Is it Oil, money and Anwar? Or is it that modus operandi of doing the opposite of what one promises? She's a Maverick they claim? Naw..she's been called from the insiders...What tricks are these?
Wow...this is so bad, they all sound so desperate - is this really the best the Republicans have to offer? Is this a joke?
Many think not and many are Republicans. This will be interesting. What a gaff! Tax cuts for the rich, more of the same, not even a competent experienced veep! Does this gal look like a president to you? Is this a copy cat thing? An attempt to shame or a Dan Quaile move? Is McSame giving away the election to the DEMS this year?
Are they really this out of touch? An obvious ulterior motive lurks behind the choice, whose judgement is this, what trick is this, this certainly is not concerning the real business of leadership and protection of the People of any serious kind...but a grab for world dominion, and profits by the extreme right faction of the Republican party in all the wrong ways for all the wrong reasons.
It seems that they keep leaving out parts of the equation, like the consequences of retaliation or the creation of a back-lash by the very women they are attempting to appeal to in such an insulting way. Where is the depth, the original thinking, we have nothing here but contradictions. A B.A. in Journalism? To educated, experienced DEMS like Boxer, Pelosi, Wasserman-Schultz, Jackson Lee, Sanchez, and Hillary who are real Pros - it is an obvious comedy of errors by McCain and his backers.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/26463356#26463404
Bring on the debates...
Obama/Biden 2008
Because history is on our side.
Posted by Tawanna_LaShond on August 29, 2008 at 02:09 PM
You are correct, it was out of character of me.
She has a very interesting life story and has obtained many accomplishments that I admire in everyone.
I don't agree with her stances on almost all of the issues.
She will appeal to the repug base, therefore a formidable candidate to be reckoned with.
Not one Student or school or University should vote for that ticket.
Mc Cain has gone NUTS, & Palin, has turned into a Abortation!
This would turn our Education system, back to Century One.
His VP pick is a insult to the American People!
http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/08/mccains-vp-want.html
MCCAIN AND PALIN SUPPORT CREATIONISM AND INTELLIGENT DESIGN IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS!
Not one Student or school or University should vote for that ticket.
Mc Cain has gone NUTS, & Palin, has turned into a Abortation!
This would turn our Education system, back to Century One.
His VP pick is a insult to the American People!
http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/08/mccains-vp-want.html
sally finds palin's voice upsetting? probably reminds him of his mother when she would call him upstairs to exfoliate her gums with the belt sander....
looks like the answer to the dobson rain prayers must have richochete off the clouds in heaven and landed in the gulf...
DATA FROM AN AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT MAXIMUM
SUSTAINED WINDS HAVE CONTINUED TO INCREASE AND ARE NOW NEAR 120
MPH...195 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. GUSTAV IS A DANGEROUS
CATEGORY THREE HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON HURRICANE SCALE.
GUSTAV IS EXPECTED TO PASS OVER WESTERN CUBA AS A MAJOR
HURRICANE...AND COULD REACH CATEGORY FOUR STATUS BEFORE MAKING
LANDFALL THERE. ADDITIONAL STRENGTHENING IS POSSIBLE OVER THE
SOUTHERN GULF OF MEXICO.
GUSTAV IS A LARGE TROPICAL CYCLONE. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND
OUTWARD UP TO 60 MILES...95 KM...FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL
STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 160 MILES...260 KM.
THE MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE BASED ON REPORTS FROM BOTH AIR FORCE
AND NOAA RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT IS 955 MB...28.20 INCHES.
by the power's invested in my by reverand dobson, jerry falwell and great ceasar's ghost we are going to start using the "Friday, August 29, 2008
Senator Barack Obama's Acceptance Speech" thread up above as the open thread for all pilgrims out there with dial up and for dors who has built an intertubes information extraction and fowarding electric machine out of popsicle sticks and sparrow feathers....see you up there.
Morning JohnBoy, Marie, Essie and Democracy,
I stepped in it last night and it appears that I brought out the closet republicans who don't give a damn about this country and will not fight to save it from extinction in the hands of the likes of bush, cheney and mccain.
I will not be silenced. Someone has to raise the red flag. Al Gore and John Kerry were too nice to these people. They should have kicked ass and taken names. Nice doesn't cut it anymore. The survival of our nation is at stake and I am not about to let a bunch of criminals take it from us.
How could any honest person be associated with the rabble that is the republican party? It appears to me that they are war criminals of the first order. I am not about to pussy foot around because there is a woman running for VP.
She is in the race with the big boys now and we should not pull any punches.
"...gambling on old Jon not dying of cancer or a heart attack in the next two or three years is a gamble the Ameican public is not going to be willing to take.
Those white "lunch pail" blue collar voters who are not to sure about Obama are really going to be scared of a nice, very attractive lady with only one years experience running a state government in one of our smallest states (population wise)"
Posted by goodfoe on August 30, 2008 at 05:36 AM
Good point goodfoe! This is so true! The blue collar cousins are beginning to see through the illusions - the veil of the status quo wannabe dream (envy) is lifting to expose their real limits, especially when there is an empty lunch pail and no job to go to, things have to be fixed around the house if you still have one, and everything is more expensive, not to mention the problems Palin is already having - being investigated for an abuse of her power which is improper rulership in her small state already!
If she cannot rule properly at the state level, what on earth kind of bully can she be as VP or POTUS? To fire the commissioner like that??? No, you just cannot do this on a personal whim like some corporate manager, it is illegal! She may very well be screwed legally already because there are witnesses and evidence. What a mess. This is not looking good for the Repugs this year.
Obama/Biden 2008
Working For the People, not just the Few.
Right on Marie,
I pray that the republicans are going to go down in flames this year.
What they have done to our own citizens and what mccain proposes to do to us in the future is totally unacceptable.
What they have done to our world standing and our allies is also despicable and cannot be tolerated any further.
Alaska is so far 'out of it". It is about 25 years behind the rest of the nation. It is made up of Eskimos, and others. The alcoholism rate there is extremely high because of the long night, and then sun when you try to sleep.Posted by PamB on August 29, 2008 at 12:11 PM
I bet a person could walk down the street in Alaska without getting runover and left for dead by some retarded "compassionate" liberal slimball.
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