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A little humor to start the day. Check out who is painting the White House PINK at the real-time poll http://www.bop-o-rama.com. By the way, take a few bops at McCain.
I like this! Nice to see that the Denver police are prepared to deal with the idiot anarchists who are planning on disrupting the DNC convention. I assume that the Twin Cities police have a similar setup for those disrupting the RNC convention. Regardless of which political party you belong to the right of free assembly should be upheld.
Warehouse set to process convention arrests
By P. SOLOMON BANDA
Associated Press Writer
DENVER (AP) -- Individuals arrested at the Democratic National Convention will be processed at an industrial warehouse with chain-link cells topped by razor wire, a facility some have compared to the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay.
Groups planning marches, concerts and other events during the Aug. 25-28 convention dub the center "Gitmo on the Platte," for the nearby South Platte River.
The Denver sheriff's office, which operates city and county jails, insists anyone taken to the center will be there only a few hours while they're fingerprinted, issued a court date and released after posting bail. Others will be transferred to facilities designed for longer detentions.
"Of course if the numbers are overwhelming, that's all going to be out the door," said Capt. Frank Gale, a sheriff's spokesman. "If we're inundated with a bunch of civil unrest, it doesn't matter how well we prepare. If we get severe numbers it's going to take us forever" to process those in custody.
Video footage of the north Denver warehouse on Denver's KCNC-TV showed coils of razor wire topping chain-link cells. A sign read: "Electric stun devices used here."
Gale said each cell will be about 20-by-20 feet. He refused to say how many people could be processed there.
"It's just ridiculous, the thing looks like a dog pound," said Mark Cohen of the protest group Recreate-68 Alliance. "Even if you only put dogs in there, people will be complaining about it. I think you ought to have the Red Cross and Amnesty International come take a look at this thing."
Lindy Eichenbaum Lent, senior advisor to Mayor John Hickenlooper, said the warehouse was formerly used to store election equipment and construction was still underway to convert it to a processing center. She said the center was an effort to allay fears that those arrested would spend several unnecessary hours waiting to be processed.
Hickenlooper's office said police will ask people to voluntarily comply with their orders before arresting anyone. "The city does not anticipate the need for widespread arrests," the mayor's office statement said. But it noted "the intention of some organizations to deliberately get arrested."
The American Civil Liberties Union and the People's Law Project have been talking with the city about giving attorneys access to detainees. The city said attorneys can meet clients in court, not at the facility.
ACLU-Colorado legal director Mark Silverstein said city officials told him detained protesters will be taken by bus to the facility, about two miles northeast of downtown. Those who are unable or refuse to post bail will be taken to a downtown city jail to await a court date.
Silverstein said warehouse cells won't have running water, bathrooms or telephones. Gale said deputies will escort anyone needing those services.
Denver police working the convention will make as much as $1.2 million in overtime pay, city officials said. Budget estimates were released Friday and are part of the $50 million federal grant to cover convention security costs.
The 1,500 Denver police force plans to work 12-hour shifts from Aug. 23 to Aug. 29. Some are already working overtime training for the convention.
Posted by acarponzo on August 16, 2008 at 09:12 AM
I think this is about the 12th time you have posted a link to that stupid site. what's you reason for being so annoying? You have nothing else to contribute to this blog other than a continuing annoying and imbecilic repetition of bullcrap?
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080818/scheer2
An October surprise in August? Nothing these neocons do would surprise me.
Ah, no wonder the count was staying the same on the other thread....hey, I guess that would make it a "thread count"?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080816/ts_afp/environmentwarmingoceansanimals
Ocean dead zones have doubled...
I'm glad to see more support for Wes Clark as potential Veep nominee. At 64, he has a great military record and would be an asset to an Obama administration. John McCain is obviously already over the hill with his hesitation and confusion when responding to questions.
I am really looking forward to seeing McCain and Obama together on stage for the first time tonight. This should give everyone a chance to see how past-the-expiration date McCain really is.
"The battle of words on Friday sharpened as well: Mr. Medvedev accused the Georgian president, Mikheil Saakashvili, of harboring “idiotic ideas” that had provoked the war.
Posted by gregg
gregg, it sounds almost as if you are supporting Russia in it's aggression against former satellite countries of the Soviet Union. They, that is Russia, are doing this because countries like Georgia, the Ukraine, Poland and the Czech Republic are moving towards a democratic based form of government with free elections and individual human rights and away from socialism which has proven itself time and time again to be a failed mess.
Watch it there Gretchen baby, you are messing with one of the Adams family
Watch it there Gretchen baby, you are messing with one of the Adams family
Posted by neo_con
Reading some of the messages on here makes me wonder about the core values of the posters who seem to have socialist tendencies. They take the side of America's enemies and voice support for actions against the interests of the United States, hiding behind a stated dislike for the current administration but in their words you can read a desire to end the basic values and beliefs that are the underpinnings of America.
YESTERDAY IN HISTORY1991 Often mistaken for a bloated, Speedo-wearing bloviating lib, Teddy The Swimmer Kennedy, another water warrior, Shamu the Whale, dies at age 16.
yes gretchen you have finally uncovered our secret mission which is to force america into a position of weakness and then have the hollandaise army invade and take over after which all americans would be forced onto a diet of hashish and mayonnaise...your insight is miraculous!
Mexas Obamaton Gets Lesson in Free Speech Source: Houston Chronicle [07/24/08]Proving that everything we’ve said about Messiah Barry’s deranged Obamatons is true, Chynethia Gregg plummeted off the deep end, when she saw the bumper sticker decorating Doug and Wendy McKain’s pickup truck. Our Obamaton took one look at the sticker of a tyke taking a piss on the name ‘Obama’, and lost her cool.
Unwilling to let it slide, she followed the McKain’s home, then started to do what comes much too easily to Obamatons. She accused the couple of racism, then got down to issuing threats:
McKain told [Sugar Land police officer H. Norris that] he and his wife were driving home when they noticed a female motorist looking closely at his truck. The couple drove home then pulled into their driveway.
"Mr. McKain said shortly later the same person (Ms. Gragg) pulled up to his residence (blocking his driveway behind his truck.) Mr. McKain said Ms. Gragg began to rant and rave about the sticker on the back of his truck," the court document states.
McKain told police Gragg shouted numerous profanities at him and his wife. "Mr. McKain said Ms. Gragg said she (would) get someone to take care of him later," the report said. (Chronicle)
The good news is that the cops bagged, tagged and dragged the raving Obamaton maniac to jail for ‘making a terroristic threat’. The bad news is that the Messiah Barry worshiping intellectual flatliner made bail and is back out on the streets.
Hey Cactus, I wasn´t intending to insult Ole Shamu. Its not his fault that teddy can´t take care of himself.
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 16, 2008 at 11:36 AM
Its not his fault, he had a crappy childhood
Looks like Gretchen and Greggy run off together. Boy is she in for a suprize!
They, that is Russia, are doing this because countries like Georgia, the Ukraine, Poland and the Czech Republic are moving towards a democratic based form of government with free elections and individual human rights and away from socialism which has proven itself time and time again to be a failed mess.
Posted by GretchenDem on August 16, 2008 at 10:53 AM
bwhahahahahaha. Has nothing to do with the Oil pipelines going thru there, right? Has nothing to do with Georgia, at US request, staging this all themselves, right?
Kind of like how the US invaded Iraq to free them, right?? (Had nothing to do with their oil. Or their lies about WMDs, Al Qaeda, etc)
You blind, close minded little jerks are a joke! You don't know shit about what is going on, but you like to bluster and strut like you do!
And hey there, Old AZ Danny ! Kind of hypocritical of you to bring up Kennedy's weight, when you and your wife sit there with the Pus Guts you both have !!!!! Just SHUT UP, Danny, JUST SHUT UP !
Posted by PamB on August 16, 2008 at 12:08 PM
And you think you know everything? You have all the answers? Bwhahahahahahahahahaah! If you´re so friggen smart, why is your droopy ass parked in some burrow in CT, surly someone of your "intellegence"(bwhahahahahaha
bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
hahahahahahahahahahaahah) should be preening its fur in the Oval office.
Florida has figured out how to fix the whole problem with education.
A Florida school's solution to encourage achievement. T-Shirt with FIRE on the front.
Sometimes I despair.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LG340681.htm
Former German Chancellor says Georgia started the aggression...
Posted by Cate on August 16, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Gerhard Schroeder is nothing more than an old wannabe has been politician. Who gives a shit what he says. he is an old dude that divorced his dumpy wife in order to marry an skinny young thing. In fact they even went to some banana republic and adopted a kid which cost alot of money, instead of staying in germany and adopting a parentless german kid. What a chump. He´s a geek.
September 21, 2004 This is too good to languish in obscurityGot a comment on an old post today:
As one of the persons you choose to single out and post my comments here, let me say this, now 10 months later. It has been determined that there absolutely were no WMDs. It has been proven there is NO al-qaeda link. Bush's invasion has provided a spawning ground now for new terrorists to unite and train. Republicans are now turning on Bush's decision to go in. The 12 yr old mass murders were all financed and approved by the US 1029 US men have been killed, 7000+ maimed. For WHAT? To get rid of an impotent dictator? It is people like you, who have the blood of our men and 10,000+ Iraqi women and children on your hands! You would back this War mongering President no matter what comes out of this. MAY YOU HAVE THE GRACE TO FEEL SHAME !
Posted by: Pam Bergren at September 21, 2004 09:37 AM
My response would basically be "Someone's been watching too much Dan Rather," except for one little gem she tried to slip in under the radar. Can you spot it, there in the middle? I know, your eyes glazed over before you got that far. Let me help:
The 12 yr old mass murders were all financed and approved by the US
That's a new one to me. I wonder how they got it past the Budget Office. Miscellaneous Expenses, perhaps?
Another point you may have missed is where she calls Saddam "an impotent dictator." Does this mean that the folks at the DU keep track of the sexual potency of all the world's leaders? I wish I'd known sooner--I could have forwarded him all that V1agra spam I've been getting for years!
Sorry, Pam, no shame from me--not as long as the checks from the VRWC keep rolling in....
UPDATE: Thanks to Jacqui for this link which debunks two of Pam's assertions...However, I suspect Pam wants to believe The Queen of the Space Unicorns Dan Rather, and no amount of factual information will change the way she "feels"...
Posted by Susie at September 21, 2004 10:43 AM
Some of you remember the Cuban Missile Crisis when Russia was trying to put missiles in Cuba. What we have here now is the Polish Missile Crisis only the roles are reversed. I don't think Putin is going to blink.
Everyone says that Georgia started the agression except the U.S.A. and Georgia.
I wonder how ole Pam sees straight... We could sit here and pull her statement apart bit by bit, but geez, that's been done before.
Posted by: yayaempress at September 21, 2004 01:28 PM
True, but it would be so much fun! Hey, Susie, maybe you can take this apart for Mango's next Fisk Fest ;) Got some links I can share if you need them, namely http://qando.net/archives/002062.htm if it's working. I have trouble with that sometimes.
Posted by: Jacqui at September 21, 2004 03:10 PM
We, along with the U.K. supplied them with with weapons and training and then egged them on to this disaster. This is part of the "be afraid, be very afraid" strategy for the American voters.
Posted by francespryor on August 16, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Theres no reason for Putin or you to get your panties twisted. These are DEFENSIVS NOT OFFENSIVE! DUH!
Boy oh Boy! Those were the days! "Middle of the day thread! 718 posts! I´m impressed!
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The Cuban Missile Crisis, October 18-29, 1962
After weathering the failed Bay of Pigs invasion by CIA-backed Cuban exiles in 1961, Castro observed as U.S. armed forces staged a mock invasion of a Caribbean island in 1962. The purpose of the invasion was to overthrow a leader whose name, Ortsac, was Castro spelled backwards. Although Ortsac was a fictitious name, Castro "got the message" and soon became convinced that the U.S. was serious about invading Cuba. Sensing an opportunity to gain a strategic foothold in America's "back yard," Khrushchev eagerly extended an offer of assistance to the desperate Cuban general. The Soviet Premier offered Castro new trade opportunities, to ease the effects of U.S. sanctions, and a promise of protection from U.S. hostilities. The cozy alliance which ensued between Castro and Khrushchev laid the ground for what culminated in a Soviet missile base in Cuba and ended in the Cuban missile crisis.
It would seem that Fidel was acting in a defensive manner. After all, he would be crazy to attack the United States, even with Russia's OK.
RAHN: Oil and oily politicians
By Richard W. Rahn in the Washington Times
Oil reserves are largely a function of price. Global proven reserves of conventional oil obtainable at prices of less than $40 per barrel are estimated at more than 1.3 trillion barrels, with much of it concentrated in the Middle East. Additionally, reserves of so called “heavy oil,” the largest reserves of which are in Venezuela’s Orinoco area, are estimated at 1.2 trillion barrels, and most of this could probably be recovered for less than $50 per barrel.
The reserves of oil sands, which are actively being mined in Canada’s Alberta Province, are estimated to be 1.8 trillion barrels. Experts estimate that much of this can be produced for $45 per barrel or less. Global reserves of oil shale are estimated at more than 3.3 trillion barrels, with 70 percent in the United States (primarily in Colorado, Utah and Wyoming).
Shell Oil Co. last year announced it has developed a process for extracting the oil from the shale, without mining, at a price of roughly $35 per barrel. The United States also has the world’s largest reserves of coal - enough for hundreds of years of production at present levels. Coal also can be turned into liquid petroleum (as the Germans and South Africans proved decades ago). Current estimates of the conversion cost are as low as $35 per barrel.
Does it seem a bit odd that the current price of oil is more than twice the cost of producing all the oil the world presently needs and will need long into the future? The reason the price is so high is that the supply has been artificially constrained by governments. Most (88 percent) of the conventional oil reserves are owned by governments, and these governments have underinvested in new production. As is well-known, the U.S. government has restricted offshore and onshore drilling, shale development, and coal conversion.
Some politicians argue, even if the U.S. government started to allow increased production, that it would be seven to 10 years or more before there would be additional output. This is nonsense. Oil wells can be drilled at an average rate of 1,000 feet or so per day, which means that the average U.S. well can be drilled in a week. It does take a few weeks to set up the pump and install the separation tanks, etc., but new land wells can be producing within months, even if the product has to be trucked rather than piped away.
The very same politicians who claim we cannot increase oil production quickly are often the same ones who tell us we need to move to alternative forms - windmills and solar, etc. - without seeming to understand these desirable technologies will take far more time to meet the goals of “energy independence” than ramping up oil production. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said she would not allow a vote on more drilling because she wanted “to save the planet,” without seeming to understand, if increased oil production does not take place in the United States with all its environmental safeguards, it will take place where U.S. environmental law cannot be enforced - and that is not healthy for the planet.
Colorado Sees Flood Warnings, Snow and Record Cold
The AP in the Denver Post
Heavy rains have prompted flood watches and advisories on Colorado’s eastern plains and snow has closed Loveland Pass in the mountains west of Denver. The National Weather Service has issued a flood warning for the Arkansas River in La Junta and the Purgatoire River near Las Animas in southeastern Colorado.
In the mountains, the Colorado Department of Transportation has closed Loveland Pass because of snow and ice and is requiring chains on commercial vehicles on the westbound approach to the Eisenhower Tunnel.
Also Denver set a new record low high of 59 yesterday, breaking the old record of 68 degress set 129 years ago in 1880. It looks like today will also set a record low high. It only reached 49 yesterday in Chyenne, tying the record low high for the month set on August 28, 1892.
hi troll! nice to see you.
your presidummie bush is such a little bitch:
"President Bush sent a stern warning to Russia on Saturday that it cannot lay claim to two breakaway provinces in Georgia."
this is like watching your best friend take an ass whooping in the parking lot and then after the whole thing is over and everyone has moved on you run out and yell to the wind " you can't do that, i'll, i'll, i'll tell my mommie...".
face it kids, bush is a punk and putin smacked him like around like a wet rag doll....just like the saudis do every time he goes hat in hand begging for a break...what a joke...worst douche bag ever!
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 16, 2008 at 01:53 PM
Does this mean that these missiles can never be armed but must always remain defensive or is this like "your Social Security number will never be used for any other purpose" or like "read my lips -- no new taxes"?
and so looking into putin's soul didn't really give bush a clue to how much smarter and devious putin could be compared to the little lord fauntleroy from connecticut....and invading iraq for no good reason didn't put him in any position to do shit to help the georgians...
"The Russian foreign minister said Thursday that Georgia could "forget about" getting back the two separatist regions, South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Medvedev also met with their leaders in Kremlin this past week, raising the prospect that Moscow could absorb the regions even though the territory is internationally recognized as being within Georgia's borders."
from scientific american...troll please refute using no material evidence at all...thank you :)
News - August 15, 2008
Oceanic Dead Zones Continue to Spread
Fertilizer runoff and fossil-fuel use lead to massive areas in the ocean with scant or no oxygen, killing large swaths of sea life and causing hundreds of millions of dollars in damage
By David Biello
More bad news for the world's oceans: Dead zones—areas of bottom waters too oxygen depleted to support most ocean life—are spreading, dotting nearly the entire east and south coasts of the U.S. as well as several west coast river outlets.
According to a new study in Science, the rest of the world fares no better—there are now 405 identified dead zones worldwide, up from 49 in the 1960s—and the world's largest dead zone remains the Baltic Sea, whose bottom waters now lack oxygen year-round.
Click here to see a map of dead zones around the world.
This is no small economic matter. A single low-oxygen event (known scientifically as hypoxia) off the coasts of New York State and New Jersey in 1976 covering a mere 385 square miles (1,000 square kilometers) of seabed ended up costing commercial and recreational fisheries in the region more than $500 million. As it stands, roughly 83,000 tons (75,000 metric tons) of fish and other ocean life are lost to the Chesapeake Bay dead zone each year—enough to feed half the commercial crab catch for a year.
"More than 212,000 metric tons [235,000 tons] of food is lost to hypoxia in the Gulf of Mexico," says marine biologist Robert Diaz of The College of William & Mary in Williamsburg, Va., who surveyed the dead zones along with marine ecologist Rutger Rosenberg of the University of Gothenburg in Sweden. "That's enough to feed 75 percent of the average brown shrimp harvest from the Louisiana gulf. If there was no hypoxia and there was that much more food, don't you think the shrimp and crabs would be happier? They would certainly be fatter."
Only a few dead zones have ever recovered, such as the Black Sea, which rebounded quickly in the 1990s with the collapse of the Soviet Union and a massive reduction in fertilizer runoff from fields in Russia and Ukraine. Fertilizer contains large amounts of nitrogen, and it runs off of agricultural fields in water and into rivers, and eventually into oceans.
This fertilizer runoff, instead of contributing to more corn or wheat, feeds massive algae blooms in the coastal oceans. This algae, in turn, dies and sinks to the bottom where it is consumed by microbes, which consume oxygen in the process. More algae means more oxygen-burning, and thereby less oxygen in the water, resulting in a massive flight by those fish, crustaceans and other ocean-dwellers able to relocate as well as the mass death of immobile creatures, such as clams or other bottom-dwellers. And that's when the microbes that thrive in oxygen-free environments take over, forming vast bacterial mats that produce hydrogen sulfide, a toxic gas.
"The primary culprit in marine environments is nitrogen and, nowadays, the biggest contributor of nitrogen to marine systems is agriculture. It's the same scenario all over the world," Diaz says. "Farmers are not doing it on purpose. They'd prefer to have it stick on the land."
In addition to fertilizers, the other primary culprit is the consumption of fossil fuels. Burning gasoline and diesel results in smog-forming nitrogen oxides, which subsequently clear when rain washes the nitrogen out of the sky and, ultimately, into the ocean.
Technological improvements, such as electric or hydrogen cars, could solve that problem but the agricultural question is trickier. "Nitrogen is very slippery; it's very difficult to keep it on land," Diaz notes. "We need to find a technology to keep nitrogen from leaving the soil."
Or farmers can reduce the overall amount of nitrogen required by employing new biotechnologies, such as the nitrogen use efficiency (NUE) improvements offered by Arcadia Biosciences. By engineering crops to overexpress a gene that allows roots to absorb more nitrogen, Arcadia scientists have shown that "it's possible for NUE crops to produce the same yield with half as much fertilizer," president and CEO, Eric Rey, says. "In canola, we saw a two-thirds reduction."
Seeds bearing the technology have already been licensed to agricultural giants Monsanto Company and Dupont's Pioneer Hi-Bred International in the case of canola and corn, respectively—and even grass seed from Scotts Miracle-Gro Company may one day employ it. Although field trials over the last four years have proved the genetic changes effectiveness, further testing and government approval means that such crops will not be grown before 2012.
"It's a big economic benefit for farmers if they use only half as much nitrogen as well a big beneficial impact on nitrogen runoff into waterways," says Rey, who hopes that this product will be adopted as quickly as herbicide-resistant crops, which only took five years from introduction in 1998 to become nearly 70 percent of the corn grown in the U.S., and is now nearly 90 percent. "A reasonable expectation is that there would be a dramatic reduction, maybe by 2018."
But that still might not solve the dead zone problem. So much nitrogen is now reaching these coastal waters that much of it ends up buried in sediment, Diaz says, even when new nitrogen sources are removed those sediments release that nitrogen over time, perpetuating the cycle.
That inability to recover is driven not only by the nitrogen buried in the sediment but also by water layers that don't mix with one another, despite the massive flow of rivers like the Mississippi. Instead, warmer, fresher water on the surface sits on top of cooler, denser, saltier water and it takes the energy of multiple powerful hurricanes to blend the two.
For example, as Hurricane Katrina bore down on the Louisiana coast with its powerful winds blowing faster than 130 miles (210 kilometers) per hour, the monstrous tropical storm delivered a benefit: it mixed the warm, oxygen-rich surface waters with the colder, almost oxygen-free waters beneath, dispelling the largest dead zone in the U.S. for a time. Hurricane Rita followed and finished the work, ending early the seasonal dead zone that forms each year at the mouth of the Mississippi.
That dead zone—which last year stretched over roughly 8,500 square miles (22,000 square kilometers), an area the size of New Jersey, and is predicted to grow even more extensive in 2008, thanks to the early summer floods—forms because of the rich load of nitrogen and phosphorus the Mississippi carries down from the farm fields of the U.S. Midwest.
Hoping for hurricanes is neither popular nor sensible, so scientists in the Baltic Sea nations, desperate for solutions, are considering so-called geoengineering options: large-scale human interventions into natural systems. In this case, air would be bubbled into some of the smaller bays to assess what happens. "If you look at agricultural ponds, you can aerate them to prevent low oxygen," Diaz says. "But that's a pond. We're talking about open systems with tides. The water doesn't just stay there."
Ultimately, it may take revolutions in agriculture and transportation, along with the energy of hurricanes to bring life back to dead zones. "If you can't mix a dead zone with the energy of a hurricane," Diaz adds, "I don't see how geoengineering is going to do it."
troll is that bob as in sally's mom bobbing for tube steaks in the boy's locker room??
"Georgian government says Russian forces control half the country and are setting fires that threaten electricity, cellphone communications."
i guess condi and the presidummie will pack up their feragamos, tricycles and oscar myer lunchables and head off to georgia to save the day....if babs will drive them that is....what a bunch of inept assholes....
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 16, 2008 at 02:25 PM
About what? The social security numbers, the new taxes or the impotent missiles?
(AP) Whenever someone reports sighting the hairy beast of yore (details always fuzzy) or capturing the hirsute humanoid on film (images always grainy), it scares up a dubious debate of international proportions. Friday was just the latest episode in the Sasquatch show, as unreal as it may be.
Two men who claim to have stumbled across a Bigfoot corpse in the woods of northern Minnesota indignantly stood by their story at a news conference in Ass Wipe during which they offered an e-mail from a scientist as evidence and acknowledged they wouldn't mind making a few bucks from the "find" they have kept stuffed in a freezer for over a month.
The two men who said their names were Sally and Dan tried to prove the heap of maggot infested hair and flesh they had in their fridge was the long sought after Sasquach. DNA testing revealed the heap to be none other than Sally's mother who had expired after her son crazy glued her lips to the exhaust pipe of his 1983 Oldsmobile. Both were led off in cuffs while ranting about how it was all the fault of illegal aliens.
dan, send them to my high school along with a picture of you and sally at the emergency room in ass wipe yomahaha having the proctologist extract those cam shafts from your butts. we'll put them in the year book!! next time your looking for kicks try the wind shield wipers....
Posted by gregg on August 16, 2008 at 02:28 PM
Maybe we should send your remarks to your high school, I don't think you should be around kids.
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 16, 2008 at 02:34 PM
Yeah, he is a sick fuq, always talking about mothers and boys locker rooms and goats and such.
I think the high school should be notified pronto.
When they run out of facts, they start posting insults to muddy the waters. It's like a 3rd grader screeching "your mother wears army boots"!
When they run out of facts, they start posting insults to muddy the waters. It's like a 3rd grader screeching "your mother wears army boots"!
Posted by francespryor on August 16, 2008 at 02:46 PM
Well Duh - stop reading greggy's posts!
yes please send it all to my high school and send me some of sally's mom's fur so i can make a voodoo doll for my religious practices....hey nice job by your boy mcsame raising what...27 million in july? very impwesive...course obama raised almost twice that....hope you trolls are working those highway aprons collecting bottles and cans to help sluggo out....hahahahaha
It does not matter how much money Obama raises, the American people are not going to elect a communist, racist, unqualified and inexperienced asshat, who happens to be a Negro. Those are the kind of qualifications it takes to get nominated in the moonbat dominated Democrat Party.
sally likes to piss on it's own leg and tell itself its raining. this is the reason:
a. sally has trouble finding a bar stool that it doesn't get knocked off by an old lady and...
b. sally has nothing else to do on a saturday than play with itself while writing foolishness on our blog.
McCain’s lobbyists have raked in nearly $1 BILLION in fees
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/16/mccains-lobbyists-have-raked-in-nearly-1-billion-in-fees/
NEO-CONS ARE SICK SUM BITCHES!
What are the roots of neoconservative beliefs?
The original neocons were a small group of mostly Jewish liberal intellectuals who, in the 1960s and 70s, grew disenchanted with what they saw as the American left's social excesses and reluctance to spend adequately on defense. Many of these neocons worked in the 1970s for Democratic Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson, a staunch anti-communist. By the 1980s, most neocons had become Republicans, finding in President Ronald Reagan an avenue for their aggressive approach of confronting the Soviet Union with bold rhetoric and steep hikes in military spending. After the Soviet Union's fall, the neocons decried what they saw as American complacency. In the 1990s, they warned of the dangers of reducing both America's defense spending and its role in the world.
Unlike their predecessors, most younger neocons never experienced being left of center. They've always been "Reagan" Republicans.
What is the difference between a neoconservative and a conservative?
Liberals first applied the "neo" prefix to their comrades who broke ranks to become more conservative in the 1960s and 70s. The defectors remained more liberal on some domestic policy issues. But foreign policy stands have always defined neoconservatism. Where other conservatives favored détente and containment of the Soviet Union, neocons pushed direct confrontation, which became their raison d'etre during the 1970s and 80s.
Today, both conservatives and neocons favor a robust US military. But most conservatives express greater reservations about military intervention and so-called nation building. Neocons share no such reluctance. The post 9/11-campaigns against regimes in Afghanistan and Iraq demonstrate that the neocons are not afraid to force regime change and reshape hostile states in the American image. Neocons believe the US must do to whatever it takes to end state-supported terrorism. For most, this means an aggressive push for democracy in the Middle East. LIKE BUSH? CHENEY? RICE? ETC??Even after 9/11, many other conservatives, particularly in the isolationist wing, view this as an overzealous dream with nightmarish consequences.
How have neoconservatives influenced US foreign policy?
Finding a kindred spirit in President Reagan, neocons greatly influenced US foreign policy in the 1980s.
But in the 1990s, neocon cries failed to spur much action. Outside of Reaganite think tanks and Israel's right-wing Likud Party, their calls for regime change in Iraq were deemed provocative and extremist by the political mainstream. With a few notable exceptions, such as President Bill Clinton's decision to launch isolated strikes at suspected terrorist targets in Afghanistan and Sudan in 1998, their talk of preemptive military action was largely dismissed as overkill.
The terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 moved much of the Bush administration closer than ever to neoconservative foreign policy. Only days after 9/11, one of the top neoconservative think tanks in Washington, the Project for a New American Century, wrote an open letter to President Bush calling for regime change in Iraq. CHENEY, RUMSEFLED, PERLE, WOLFOWITZ, KRISOL.
Neocons envision a world in which the United States is the unchallenged superpower, immune to threats. They believe that the US has a responsibility to act as a "benevolent global hegemon." In this capacity, the US would maintain an empire of sorts by helping to create democratic, economically liberal governments in place of "failed states" or oppressive regimes they deem threatening to the US or its interests. In the neocon dream world the entire Middle East would be democratized in the belief that this would eliminate a prime breeding ground for terrorists. This approach, they claim, is not only best for the US; it is best for the world. In their view, the world can only achieve peace through strong US leadership backed with credible force, not weak treaties to be disrespected by tyrants.
Any regime that is outwardly hostile to the US and could pose a threat would be confronted aggressively, not "appeased" or merely contained. The US military would be reconfigured around the world to allow for greater flexibility and quicker deployment to hot spots in the Middle East, as well as Central and Southeast Asia. The US would spend more on defense, particularly for high-tech, precision weaponry that could be used in preemptive strikes. It would work through multilateral institutions such as the United Nations when possible, but must never be constrained from acting in its best interests whenever necessary.
Today, both conservatives and neocons favor a robust US military. But most conservatives express greater reservations about military intervention and so-called nation building. Neocons share no such reluctance. The post 9/11-campaigns against regimes in Afghanistan and Iraq demonstrate that the neocons are not afraid to force regime change and reshape hostile states in the American image. Neocons believe the US must do to whatever it takes to end state-supported terrorism. For most, this means an aggressive push for democracy in the Middle East. Even after 9/11, many other conservatives, particularly in the isolationist wing, view this as an overzealous dream with nightmarish consequences.
Good afternoon, all.
I'm back from canvassing a heavily Republican upper middle class neighborhoold. They do have good manner overall. And some said they were going to vote for the person not the Party this time.
Oveall, I think they were a little amused. However, some seemed glad to see us. It never hurts to make a few cold calls on folks who are no longer happy with the service they are getting from their current suppliers.
And I found a few Democrats. I think they had been Reagan Democrats and are now relieved that there is a sane alternative...or they were Irish Catholics and feel guilty for what the Republicans have done to this country and the next generation.
Can't say that rubbing shoulders with the upper crust (or at least those who aspire to it) wasn't interesting. I was even offered a margarita at one home that was having a pool party. Alas, I still had a few more streets to walk (actually private streets with long, long driveways) so I declined.
I didn't met one Republican man who wasn't coridal if not outright nice and only two hostile Republican women. One seemed upset that we were running such a good candidate for governor.
The other snooty lady acted like she didn't know what planet I was from...actually just the other side of the same suburban city. Our kids have probably gone to school together or played on the same youth sports teams at one time. We both probably voted against the same incompetent mayor last election.
She obviously had no idea that Democrats lived in her vicinity and shop at the same stores. I guess she'll have to move...to Paraguay?
So the old blog is bouncing around again? I'll try one more time to post and then go cut the grass.
Good afternoon, all.
I'm back from canvassing a heavily Republican upper middle class neighborhoold. They do have good manner overall. And some said they were going to vote for the person not the Party this time.
Oveall, I think they were a little amused. However, some seemed glad to see us. It never hurts to make a few cold calls on folks who are no longer happy with the service they are getting from their current suppliers.
And I found a few Democrats. I think they had been Reagan Democrats and are now relieved that there is a sane alternative...or they were Irish Catholics and feel guilty for what the Republicans have done to this country and the next generation.
Can't say that rubbing shoulders with the upper crust (or at least those who aspire to it) wasn't interesting. I was even offered a margarita at one home that was having a pool party. Alas, I still had a few more streets to walk (actually private streets with long, long driveways) so I declined.
I didn't met one Republican man who wasn't coridal if not outright nice and only two hostile Republican women. One seemed upset that we were running such a good candidate for governor.
The other snooty lady acted like she didn't know what planet I was from...actually just the other side of the same suburban city. Our kids have probably gone to school together or played on the same youth sports teams at one time. We both probably voted against the same incompetent mayor last election.
She obviously had no idea that Democrats lived in her vicinity and shop at the same stores. I guess she'll have to move...to Paraguay?
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 16, 2008 at 02:51 PM
I was asking questions regarding your "facts". The statement about the SS numbers is a true fact and we all heard GHWB make the "no new taxes" statement. Is it a fact that these missiles could never be armed?
Pammy and the others are going to hide out all day.
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 16, 2008 at 01:14 PM
Danny, Danny. Just because you sit on your fat ass all day on your computer, does not mean the rest of us to not have something to do on a Saturday! Does not mean that we do not have yards that require maintenance. That we do not have family! Friends! That want us around. I am cooking food all day today, for a big party. What has your lazy ass done? NADA. Yet you get your Social Security check the Democrats got for you, don't you????? And enjoy your health coverage through Medicare the Democrats got for you!
You didn't get that gut from any productive work, that is for sure !
So shut your hate filled pie hole. I liked it better when you first came on and were too afraid to post until one of your other balkie trolls came on.
see, this is why we have the simple minded, easily led sheeple thinking there is no global warming! The White House has not let any Truth about it out!
Global Warming Battle Heats Up
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by: Matthew Blake, The Washington Independent
Whistleblower helps build case against EPA chief.
Four Democratic senators demanded late last month that the head of the Environmental Protection Agency must go. Their call for EPA Administrator Stephen Johnson's resignation - after eight months of looking into his actions as agency chief - is largely due to Jason K. Burnett, Johnson's former deputy in developing global warming policy.
Since resigning in May as the No. 3 official at EPA, Burnett has helped congressional investigators build a compelling case that the White House strong-armed Johnson into denying California a waiver to police greenhouse gas tailpipe emissions and also stopped the EPA from setting a national greenhouse gas standard.
In stepping forward - no one has directly challenged his statements - Burnett, 31, has won over Johnson's many critics in Congress.
http://www.truthout.org/article/global-warming-battle-heats-up
Obama is a Communist and a negro? I thought he was bi-racial and a United Church of Christ member. So the Reds have not only invaded Georgia (and the offices of CNN in Atlanta) they are also infiltarating the Christian Right movement? OMG.
Get Leslie Graham and Joe Lieberman on the case immediately since Condi is incapable of handling the situation. It's sort of like watching an incompetents tag team match isn't it. Bush ignored Russia so they decided to shake things up with the first stupid move made by one of Cheney's puppets in Eastern Europe.
Watch out Poland. John McCain's lobbyist friends and that dysfunctional Bi-Partisan Dynamic Duo dependent Democrat and overall Republican crackpot) Duo may be coming to your rescue soon, too.
Perhish the thought.
Love it !!!!!
GOP Crying Foul Over Law It Passed
by: Alan Johnson, The Columbus Dispatch
In trying to close a brief window that will allow simultaneous voter registration and absentee voting, Ohio Republicans are engaging in "blatant voter suppression," a leading legal expert on voting said yesterday.
"This is exactly what the law says and what it allows," said Daniel Tokaji, a professor at the Ohio State University Moritz College of Law. "If the Republicans are trying to close the window, they would be violating the law they wrote."
Tokaji, a frequent critic of Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner, said she is "absolutely right on this one. ... It could be the best thing she's done in office."
Partisan battle lines are being drawn over Brunner's directive to county boards of elections, clarifying that state law allows a five-day overlap during which Ohioans can register to vote and vote by absentee ballot at the same time.
The "no-fault absentee" voting law has been in place since 2005, when it was passed by the Republican-controlled General Assembly and signed by GOP Gov. Bob Taft.
http://www.truthout.org/article/gop-crying-foul-over-law-it-passed
ok, bbl...........
Posted by PamB on August 16, 2008 at 03:19 PM
Thank you, Pam. You summed it up very nicely.
Posted by SandyH on August 16, 2008 at 03:29 PM
Uh Sandy, Obama does not attend a Christian right church. He attends a socialism favoring leftist church.
Pam,
I hear the global warming debate is really heating up within the evangelical community...just like the abortion debate. The old timers are meeting resistence from the younger pastors and their flocks.
I've never been able to understand how those who follow the Old Testament so closely could over look the lesson taught by the story of Noah and the Ark. And how those that genuinely look closely at the life of Christ could be so judgmental and condemning.
But then I'm on the outside of that community. But I've had to deal with the crazies within the Bishops of the Catholic Church. That's another story entirely and has you scratching your head trying to figure out what those old men are thinking. The pedifile priest thing crys out for more supervision by women within the Church.
Times awasting. Off to the mower and sprinklers.
He's wouldn't have won the nomination if he was stupid. And he'd be wealthy if he was crooked.
No, I'm not voting for Nader. He's as squirelly as McCain.
Where are all those Edwards supporters now that he has been caught boinkin that mousey looking broad while his wife was dying of cancer?
Posted by Sally-* on August 16, 2008 at 05:13 AM
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Where is all of those Toe Tap pin Crag supporters? I guess your one of them you blood sucking tick!!!!!!!!! Your nothing but a parasite, wherever you presence is. FYI the Repos have just as many gays, and adulteresses as the dems. and you can't handle it and won't admit it, even though i can't prove it I'd say that the repos have even more gays then the demos. Dimwit!
Where are all those Edwards supporters now that he has been caught boinkin that mousey looking broad while his wife was dying of cancer?
Posted by Sally-* on August 16, 2008 at 05:13 AM
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You are such a dimwit, and post more bs then i thought possible by one human being, oh i forgot your not human, your a blood sucking tick parasite. Go jump on a animal and get some more blood for your fuel to post more idiotic posts. Get a brain parasite!!!!!!!!!!
Sally is a parasite folks, and i hate parasites, there worst then rats, or any other kind of scavenger!
To all parasites, you all just as we'll give it up your wasting your time Obama will win this election by the electoral vote and by 8 points on the popular vote, so go and eat crap, that is what you parasites do the best, ain't it?
O.K. folks I'm going out to work for Obama, i can't stand to read these parasites B/S. What a bunch of losers, and closet gays, and adulterers!!!!!!!! And then they want to polk bs about others, what a bunch of blood suckers.
Cactus it might be a rant, but its the truth, and I'm not Robert by any means Robert is much smarter then I. But your still a blood sucking parasite, that don't have a clue about nothing whats so ever, all you know how to do is stir the crapo. But really I would expect nothing less from a idiot repo like you, your even worst then most repos, some of them unlike you actually have some sense, but not you, your a blood sucking parasite, with absolutely no brains!
Posted by chassie on August 16, 2008 at 04:23 PM
When you pass a gay bar, be sure and yell, "hey you Faggs, vote for Obama.
hahahahahahaa
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 16, 2008 at 04:30 PM
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Hey Cactus you make sure you do the same with the old man that i know that you don't like, say hey fags vote for more of the same with McSame. Give it a break parasite, and watch the olympics, or bend double and suck your own genitals fool.
Cactus is a toe tapper, what do you folks think of that? The kettle coloring the kettle black, shit i digress.
Posted by Cate on August 16, 2008 at 10:17 AM
I am behind you 100%. What was KKKarl doing in the Ukraine and Georgia recently?
Then read this report:
Georgia used US and Ukrainian mercenaries in its aggression against South Ossetia
bush, rove, mccain, cheney and anyone else involved in egging Georgia into attacking Russia for political reasons must be arrested immediately sent to the Hague, tried and hanged before the election
Cactus is nothing but a shit stirring parasite, no matter how much bs he spew es, he will not work for McSame, unlike us, i am now gone to work for Obama. Have a good night Dems, and enjoy the Olympics.
Latest news, saakashvilli is insane.
Latest news bush, rove, cheney and mccain are war criminals.
Georgian President Saakashvili eats his tie on TV live
We must act to save America from these criminals.
VOTE and be vigilant when these criminals try to steal the next election.
Take your directions, for your self and go there parasite, i am not even close to that area as i live is S. Georgia Extreme S Georgia. You for sure got a Psychiatric Disorder, me thinks several!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good night going to work for Obama make sure you tell all of the gays in your blood sucking party to vote for more of the same with Mc Same loser.
Here's the story about the U.S. and Ukraine mercenary traitors who helped attack Russia killing 2,000 Russian citizens.
THIS IS GENOCIDE JUST LIKE PUTIN SAID. If you don't think there is a credence to this story then you are stupid.
Georgia used US and Ukrainian mercenaries in its aggression against South Ossetia
California's grapefruit, Arizona Cactus, I thing I'll take on Dan A Cactus just for practice.
Where is all of those Toe Tap pin Crag supporters? I guess your one of them you blood sucking tick!!!!!!!!!
Posted by chassie on August 16, 2008 at 04:04 PM
There are no Craig supporters. That's why he is not running for re election. Duh
Where is all of those Toe Tap pin Crag supporters? I guess your one of them you blood sucking tick!!!!!!!!!
Posted by chassie on August 16, 2008 at 04:04 PM
There are no Craig supporters. That's why he is not running for re election. Duh
BUSH=FASCIST PIG=WAR CRIMINAL=HATE COMMIES=HATE AMERICA=HATE AMERICANS.
DITTOS FOR ROVE, MCCAIN AND CHENEY.
Cactus changed his name from Cactus to Sally folks the same blood sucking tick. Nothing but a parasite.
We can do this all night Parasite, but i got to go and work for Obama to make sure your kind die for the next 8 years. Enjoy the evening and night with you idiotic crapo. But starting in 09 have a bad 8 yrs. its coming take it to the bank parasite.
Before i go just want to let all of the good Dems here no I'm not Robert, as I'm not even close to being as smart as Robert, I don't even know how to post a link on this site, or any other as far as that goes. And remember this that blood sucking trolls have Psychiatric Disorders, or they wouldn't be here period.
RICE IS A MORON AND APPARENTLY A WAR CRIMINAL TOO!
Stanford University must have some pretty low standards if they had her as a "professor".
Condoleezza Rice believes that she can instruct Russia of its actions in Georgia
bwhahahahahaha. Has nothing to do with the Oil pipelines going thru there, right? Has nothing to do with Georgia, at US request, staging this all themselves, right?
Posted by PamB
Well Pam, you are half right in that the oil and natural gas pipeline running through Georgia has a great strategic value but mostly to western Europe. If Russia holds the power to raise tariffs on fuel transferred via those lines or even worse shut them off to punish Europe it would not be good for their economies.
As far as Georgia, at US request, staging this all I have to call into question your sources for such information as that wouldn't be something you would be privy to. Of course, since you don't have any valid sources by which you can claim such astounding statements as truth, what you are putting forth is hearsay (as in your hear yourself say it) and wild theory. Neither is valid.
You blind, close minded little jerks are a joke! You don't know shit about what is going on, but you like to bluster and strut like you do!
Why resort to juvenile name calling and foolish talk. Simply address the issues please!
Good night going to work for Obama
Posted by chassie on August 16, 2008 at 04:53 PM
Is that called peddlin yer ass?
bwhahahahahaha. Has nothing to do with the Oil pipelines going thru there, right? Has nothing to do with Georgia, at US request, staging this all themselves, right?
Posted by PamB
I wonder when one of you commies assclowns are finally going to google "gazprom". Do it and then tell me what Russia´s interest in Georgia is.
hello johne, good evening cassie yer doin a great job here. looks like the trolls had to get back on their roller skates and resume serving those A&W root beer floats to the folks in the parking lot...
The loudest "Global warming" screamer among those commie punks probably drives a friggin Bentley
Anyone you believes that Russia moved into Georgia in defense of the breakaway region is not a realist or informed person. Russia did so primarily as a strong warning to other countries in the region not to make alliances with western governments or attempt to increase the amount of freedoms of their citizens under democratic rule.
Russia would actually crush Georgia, because Gazprom wants them to do it. Gazprom/Russia wants that pipeline and the control over it bad, but that doesn´t fit your commie ideas at all. You would rather blame President Bush for all the trouble.
Misguided fools the lot of you!
GOD BLESS PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!
trolls back? must be a slow night at the A&W or they took jobs as bowling pins and the morons in their town keep throwing gutter balls....speaking of gutter balls i wonder how dan's mom is doing??
SOME VILLAGE IS MISSING AN IDIOT NAMED GEORGE W. BUSH!
GOD HAS CURSED AMERICA BECAUSE OF GEORGE W. BUSH AND HE WILL ROT IN HELL ALONG WITH CHENEY!
neo_con, you are correct. Gazprom used to be a private corporation with stockholders but is now simply an extension of the Russian government after being taken over in December, 2005. Make no mistaken fellow dems, Russia is no longer an allie of the US or Western Europe but instead now under the iron grip of Putin who intends to rebuild it into a next generation of the Soviet machine.
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 16, 2008 at 03:50 PM
I hope you are right. I mentioned the SS and taxes because the best intentions often go awry. These promises were made in good faith but circumstances made them impossible to keep. Once those missiles are in, they're in and there is no way to know now where it will lead in the future.
Posted by Johne on August 16, 2008 at 06:20 PM
retard on the loose!
As far as Georgia, at US request, staging this all I have to call into question your sources for such information as that wouldn't be something you would be privy to. Of course, since you don't have any valid sources by which you can claim such astounding statements as truth, what you are putting forth is hearsay (as in your hear yourself say it) and wild theory. Neither is valid.
Uhhhhhmmmmmmm, numbie, I posted 3-4 various articles last night for you! ONE WAS PAT BUCHANAN! Yeah, he is not a valid source is he!
Look, Thom-ass, why don't you have the balls to just post under your own name?
Is it because perhaps I am capturing all of your posts, and sending them on the TORO, to put in your personnel file, so your sorry ass never sees a promotion in his lifetime there?
You are stupid as Thom-ass. You are even goofier as GretchenDem!!!
Grow up little man! and wise up while you are at it.
You think for one single minute, that Bush is not in on this Georgia invasion thingy???
You are more simple than I thought.
You think for one single minute, that Bush is not in on this Georgia invasion thingy???
You are more simple than I thought.
Posted by PamB on August 16, 2008 at 06:27 PM
you can´t prove it
Grow up little man! and wise up while you are at it.
Posted by PamB on August 16, 2008 at 06:27 PM
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Thats not possible Pam, he's not a little man, or any kind of a man. He's a parasite. Just get out your Texas fly swatter, and swat the parasite the it is a parasite!!! A man Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good evening, all.
Cate,
The Georgian attack was an August surprise alright. It surprised the Republicans how quickly the Russians could recipricate.
And it also surprised the Republicans how fast the American people ruled out getting involved.
They might trick some of the sheep into feeling sorry for these reckless Georgian idiots, but they're not going to get on the bandwagon to start WW III. The pity stops at the Russian border.
If McCain continues to place himself in the middle of Georgia, he's going to make people wonder why? It just dredges up Randy Scheunemann's PNAC connection and Georgian lobbyist roots.
Instead of making McCain look like a "better" president than Bush, it just drags up the lobbyist question. Does he want to be president of the American people or Georgia?
Does he really want to make the Bush Crime Family and thus the whole incumbent Republican Congressional contingent look bad? The GOP have just about had enough of The Maverick and his superiority complex.
If this is the August/October surprise, the surprise is all on McCain. He's got himself deeply involved in yet another losing neocon proposition...just like Bush. And he's pissing off the Republican Base, too.
Not bad for a delusional meglomaniac...with memory problems. Throw him a fish.
Mostly nutty old women in here today.
And greggy (a nutty old wanna be woman.)
you can´t prove it
Posted by neo_con on August 16, 2008 at 06:40 PM
We don't have to. All we have to do is whisper our suspicions and spread rumors.
Guess what? He still have Bush to kick around till January...and McCain till November.
So loosen up a little. Where is your sense of humor? Follow Dr. McStranglove's advice.
who sally is this man or woman or gay man who come in here to spread lies and non sence
is neo_con and Dan_A_Cactus** are they both mentel unstable and lovers ?
Idiot ideas, like FREEDOM, self determination, democracy.
Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on August 16, 2008 at 10:41 AM
Hey, the Georgians had all the Freedom they needed to act like idiots. They self determined all by themselves that they wanted to be Cheney's patsies.
It's not the Russians' fault that they saw it coming and were waiting. Anyone with an ounce of sense would not believe any promises made by the Bush Crime Family.
Here's a question for you: Who has ever dared to make Spunky look weak and prospered from it?
McCain is skating on thin ice. Lesley Graham on even thinner ice. Cheney is going to use them as the fall guys if this crisis continues to look like a blunder.
I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't part of the plan either.
Make no mistaken fellow dems, Russia is no longer an allie of the US or Western Europe but instead now under the iron grip of Putin who intends to rebuild it into a next generation of the Soviet machine.
Posted by GretchenDem on August 16, 2008 at 06:20 PM
You actually thought Russia was our ally? I thought only Spunky was stupid enough to think the former head of the KGB was an upstanding citizen with soulful eyes.
And gording him with a missle defense shield on his border and trying to overthrow Russia's pipeline advantage in Europe gave Putin all the incentive he needed to practice his trade openly again.
Ally, my eye. You're a freckin' romantic.
Ally, my eye. You're a freckin' romantic.
Posted by SandyH
No romantic Sandy, I am a realist. There was a time but a brief one, where Russia had the appearance of an ally to the west. There was hope that after the collapse of the Soviet government a shift towards a more democratic type of government might occur but since Putin that hope is gone.
No freakin' romantic but I am not cheering Putin on like some on here.
War crimes and genocide are nothing new to cheney and bush.
On the night of 7/8 August, Georgian Armed Forces (backed by the USA) murdered 2.000 civilians in South Ossetia. This treacherous act of mass murder has been totally ignored in the western press and by the US leadership. We therefore present photographic evidence for the benefit of George Bush and Condoleeza Rice. Maybe now they will start mentioning the Georgian war crimes that started this sorry episode.
Mikhail Saakashvili announced a ceasefire on 7th August. While doing so, his armed forces were getting ready to push into South Ossetia, a Republic that should have had a referendum back in 1991, under the Soviet Constitution, upon the secession of Georgia, for its people to vote freely and fairly on autonomy. Georgia did not respect its legal obligation.
Why have George Bush and Condoleeza Rice given their unconditional backing to the war criminal and mass murderer Mikhail Saakashvili? To what extent were the US military advisors envolved in this savage act of murder? How to explain the American English voices heard among the fleeing and panic-stricken defeated military forces once Russia entered the fray?
The photos we present here are proof of what happened. The camera does not lie.
Has the reader seen these photos published elsewhere? Has the reader heard the leaders of the USA refer one single time to these war crimes?
Or has the reader heard George Bush and Condoleeza Rice repeat time and time again the same message, supporting Georgia’s leadership, and tacitly giving their approval to this act of butchery?
I truly believed in 2000 that Putin was leading Russia toward friendship and cooperation with the United States. Putin was working with us in oil exploration in the old Soviet satellite countries.
I also felt that we were becoming more friendly with Iran. They offered help immediately after 9/11 and bush told them to go to hell.
bush did the same thing during the Katrina atrocity. He refused foreign help from Venezuela.
Notice that these are all bush's "Axis of Evil" countries. bush and rasputin have destroyed our standing around the world with their cowboy diplomacy and no diplomacy at all when it came to North Korea, Iran and Venezuela.
bush's saber rattling around the world is unacceptable to me for one and I am not going to stand by and watch this asshole destroy my country.
Georgia went in to South Osetia everyone knows that all three MSM's fox,cnn and msnbc were reporting that. South Osetia does not want to be a part of Georgia. The election of the Georgian President was questionable also, as has been some of his tactics, like shutting down news organizations, namely fox's sister station. This is why we need a national peace keeping force you can't believe bush and your can't believe putin either - they both are equally evil.
The invasion of Kuwait by Saddam was very similar to the invasion of South Ossetia.
In Kuwait, king bush the first gave Saddam the imnpression that we would wink and ignore his incursion into Kuwait.
In Georgia, king bush the last and our buddy mclame gave saakashvili the impression that we would just wink and ignore his incursion into South Ossetia.
Does anyone else notice the similarities?
newsjunkie,
I agree they are both evil but I think bush and cheney edge out putin. At least putin hasn't killed over 1,000,000 Iraqis.
I also felt that we were becoming more friendly with Iran. They offered help immediately after 9/11 and bush told them to go to hell.
Posted by Johne
Yes Johne, they were real "pals" alright. With friends like that who needs enemies?
9/11 Panel Links Al Qaeda, Iran Bin Laden May Have Part in Khobar Towers, Report SaysBy Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, June 26, 2004; Page A12While it found no operational ties between al Qaeda and Iraq, the commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks has concluded that Osama bin Laden's terrorist network had long-running contacts with Iraq's neighbor and historic foe, Iran.
Al Qaeda, the commission determined, may even have played a "yet unknown role" in aiding Hezbollah militants in the 1996 bombing of the Khobar Towers complex in Saudi Arabia, an attack the United States has long blamed solely on Hezbollah and its Iranian sponsors.
The notion that bin Laden may have had a hand in the Khobar bombing would mark a rare operational alliance between Sunni and Shiite Muslim groups that have historically been at odds. That possibility, largely overlooked in the furor of new revelations released by the commission last week, comes amid worsening relations between the United States and Iran, which announced on Thursday that it would resume building equipment necessary for a nuclear weapons program.
The Sept. 11 panel's findings on Iran have been eclipsed by the continuing political debate over Iraq, which the commission said had not developed a "collaborative relationship" with al Qaeda despite limited contacts in the 1990s. That appeared to conflict with previous characterizations made by President Bush, Vice President Cheney and other administration officials in their justifications for launching the war against Saddam Hussein.
In relation to Iran, commission investigators said intelligence "showed far greater potential for collaboration between Hezbollah and al Qaeda than many had previously thought." Iran is a primary sponsor of Hezbollah, or Party of God, the Lebanon-based anti-Israel group that has been designated a terrorist organization by the United States.
The commission's Republican chairman, former New Jersey governor Thomas H. Kean, also said in a television appearance last week that "there were a lot more active contacts, frankly, with Iran and with Pakistan than there were with Iraq."
But perhaps most startling was the commission's finding that bin Laden may have played a role in the Khobar attack. Although previous court filings and testimony indicated that al Qaeda and Iranian elements had contacts during the 1990s, U.S. authorities have not publicly linked bin Laden or his operatives to that strike, which killed 19 U.S. servicemen. A June 2001 indictment of 14 defendants in the case makes no mention of al Qaeda or bin Laden and lays the organizational blame for the attacks solely on Hezbollah and Iran.
Bruce Hoffman, a terrorism expert who heads the Washington office of Rand Corp., said that although bin Laden's then-fledgling group was an early suspect in the blasts, "the evidence kept pointing to an Iranian connection, so people tended to discount a bin Laden connection."
"What the commission report is raising is that the relationship might have been much tighter and was in fact operational and not just spiritual," Hoffman said.
U.S. officials who have worked on the Khobar case are more skeptical. A law enforcement source with knowledge of the case, who declined to be identified because of the ongoing criminal investigation, said authorities searched carefully for an al Qaeda connection but found no basis for it.
The broader notion of links between bin Laden's group and Hezbollah or hard-line elements in Iran's security forces has been a hot topic in U.S. law enforcement and intelligence circles for years. Many analysts have viewed such an alliance as dubious, largely because of ancient animosities between Shiite and Sunni Muslims. Several leaders of al Qaeda, a Sunni organization, have issued rabidly anti-Shiite proclamations.
Nonetheless, the United States previously compiled evidence of limited contacts between Iranian interests and al Qaeda. U.S. officials alleged that Iran was harboring al Qaeda militants who had fled neighboring Afghanistan after the U.S. invasion there.
Iran has denied that al Qaeda was operating from its territory, and announced earlier this year that it would put on trial a dozen suspected members of the terrorist group.
The original U.S. indictment of bin Laden, filed in 1998, said al Qaeda "forged alliances . . . with the government of Iran and its associated terrorist group Hezbollah for the purpose of working together against their perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States."
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Since when does freedom mean suppressing the truth and supporting lies in order to support the country. That my friend is what a dictatorship is. America is best when people question it's leaders not blindly follow, believe, and support anything they say. Blind Faith is for God not Politicians, especially not Presidents and that is what true patriotism looks like CactASS.
I'm for manufacturing jobs in America, your party, the republicans, passed CAFTA giving jobs to communists. Your party, the republicans, want you to believe, as you do, that that is free markets. Only commie lovers would give US jobs to commies. You CactASS should be more concerned about the poisen you eat everyday from commies that your commie party, the republicans, don't want to label the country of origin on the food. Your party loves the commies. You are much more likely to be poisened by a commie than bombed by a terrorist. Grow one CactASS.
True patriots question freely their governments. In your world, Cactass, it is unamerican to question America or its president. To most people that would be a dictatorship, but not to you commie lover. Blind faith in your government is what commies do. Save your blind faith for god, not politicians CactASS.
The republican party are true commie lovers as they gave American jobs to commies and call it free markets. Republicans slash Consumer product safety's budget, soo communist to protect american people, in favor of looking the other way when commies ship poisenous food, toys and goods to the US. Only the commie loving republican party would propose and pass CAFTA. Only the commie republican party doesn't want to label food with the country of origin. Republicans are the Commies but their blind, devoted followers, like CactASS, are a bunch of bobble heads that don't know what real threats look like.
So what's the verdict? Is Obama up to the challenge of carrying out God's will for America?
So why exactly is Obama pandering to these twisted, right-wing evangelical mega-church freaks?
A simmering conflict between Georgia and Russia erupted on 7 August when Georgia launched an assault to retake its Russian-backed separatist province of South Ossetia.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7564776.stm
The fact that Georgia initiated the attack seems to be missing from some people's "thinking".
chicago,
I'm here. I am doing my best and would be very happy if mclame is exposed for his lies about Georgia. This smacks so much of a rovian POLITICAL operation.
When is our MSM going to grow up and quit being so anti-truth?
U.S. President George W. Bush warned Russia Saturday that it cannot lay claim to the two separatist regions in U.S.-backed Georgia even though their sympathies lie with Moscow. "There is no room for debate on this matter," the president, with Rice, told reporters at his Texas ranch.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/16/world/main4355768.shtml
So this is not about what the people want. The people there want to be part of Russia. Georgia is part of the group who is trying to keep them part of Georgia against their will. So much for the GOP fighting for freedom.
Check this out. They have a picture where she really looks evil. Maybe she is pissed because
cheney and rove set her up to look stupid.
Has the US Secretary of State got her cassette stuck? For a week now she has been reiterating the same phrase “Russian forces must leave Georgia now” and for a week now the world has been informed of Georgian war crimes against Russians in Ossetia. The war crimes happened, the Russians call the shots now, Ms. Rice. Like it or lump it.
Is Condoleeza Rice stupid? OK her boss is, we all know that and that’s why nobody pays any attention to what he says or if they do, it is to have a good laugh at how such an imbecile could supposedly rule the roost in Washington (when everyone knows it is Cheney and his energy and arms lobbies). So Bush gets a discount, like the uncle that farts at family dinners, like the retarded nephew who belches swearwords after his third litre of Coke, like the simpleton that sits outside the church on Sundays begging for money informing everyone that he is an astronaut on Thursday afternoons.
Is Condoleeza Rice stupid? She claims to be a Russian expert but her command of the language was recently exposed as being basic/elementary level on a Russian radio programme, just as her grasp of what is going on in Russia today seems beneath the informed blogger level.
Is Condoleeza Rice stupid? How can this female purport to broker events between an evil regime in Tblisi supported by her own evil regime in Washington, and Russia, while not mentioning one single time the war crimes committed by Georgia against Russian peacekeepers and civilians?
So we come to the conclusion that she is either stupid, or incompetent, or downright evil. If she didn’t know about Georgia’s war crimes, when everyone else did, she is incompetent (as she proved as National Security Advisor during 9/11). If she knows about the war crimes and fails to mention them, as Secretary of State, she is plain stupid and if she purposefully covers them up, maybe because her own armed forces were involved, then she is one evil piece of work, as many of us suspected all along.
Is Condoleeza Rice stupid? Or incompetent? Or just plain evil?
Posted by Johne on August 17, 2008 at 12:01 AM
John,
We don't have real media any more so the truth is not reported on. We have tabloid media. They believe they have no responsibility to report/educate the masses on the true events that are important to this country. Their main goal is to make a profit. It is the old "privitization scheme". That means that if the news isn't about a blonde bombshell disappearing in a bikini, it wont make the front page.
I read where the people of the Ukraine overwhelmingly disapprove joining NATO.
chimpenfuhrer wants NATO shoved down their throats. The leader of Ukraine apparently sent mercenaries to Georgia to fight alongside U.S. mercenaries (Blackwater?).
cheney is bound and determined to shove NATO down the throats of all the ex-Soviet satellites whether they want if or not.
This is chimp's democracy in action.
I am convinced more and more that cheney and rove are running this country and doing a great job running it into the ground. cheney is pissed at Russia for nationalizing their oil.
We should nationalize our oil. Screw these oil companies and their minions.
Off to bed. Maybe tomorrow we will wake up and it will all be over and we will realize that it was all a nightmare.
Posted by Johne on August 17, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Johne,
The evidence seems to support the proposition that she is stupid, incompetent AND evil. If she was not stupid, she would have stopped supporting Bush long ago. If she was not incompetant, she would have seen this coming AND would understand why and how it happened. If she was not evil, she would have informed them of the true events and exposed Bush/Cheney/McLame as the manipulators they are.
I'm thinking Obama is not going to want her in his cabinet. She's a dupe, dope AND a Neocon republican tool.
I don't expect much from the media in this country. I don't expect them to get the facts straight on any of the news events. I have seen them get it entirely wrong too many times. But I do expect them to put the interests of this country AHEAD of their need for profit. We watched as they pretended Bush tied Gore in the debates. Now they are doing the same with McSame.
God's speed to a full recovery, Barbara.
BEIJING, China (CNN) -- The woman whose husband was killed in a knife attack while attending the Summer Olympic Games in Beijing, and who was herself critically wounded in the attack, is back in the United States, according to her doctors.
...
Barbara Bachman arrived at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, late Friday morning, according to a written statement from the hospital.
you can´t prove it
Posted by neo_con on August 16, 2008 at 06:40 PM
We don't have to. All we have to do is whisper our suspicions and spread rumors.Posted by SandyH on August 16, 2008 at 08:30 PM
That sounds like a conspiracy to take down and overthrow our legally elected government. that one goes into file SandyH.
We should nationalize our oil. Screw these oil companies and their minions.
Posted by Johne on August 17, 2008 at 12:14 AM
The next step to communism you sick old f#*k.
bush's saber rattling around the world is unacceptable to me for one and I am not going to stand by and watch this asshole destroy my country.
Posted by Johne on August 16, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Well Mr.best from belen NM, what do you plan on doing? You´ve been making these threats long enough now.
A book that will never be read - a review from Kansas City.
Swiftboating Barack Obama
When confronted with specific errors or falsehoods, Corsi’s own responses reveal him to be a shameless propagandist, not a serious researcher.
I wonder what Harry and Louise have to say about HMO's rationing health care.
Doctors skip blood tests, often misdiagnose West Nile virus
A department representative asked Long if any blood work had been done to confirm her husband's diagnosis. She answered no, and was surprised to find that what authorities consider to be a crucial step in the process had been skipped.
"They said doctors can't diagnose without a blood test," she said.
...
The Utah County Health Department said the same thing, and suggested some doctors may forgo testing because their patients' insurance won't pay for it.
Whiskey's for drinking, water's for fighting.
McCain suggests raiding Colorado's water
Memo to: John McCain.
From: Five million thirst-crazed Coloradans.
Subject: Forget about winning our nine electoral votes next November. We don't vote for water rustlers in this state; we tar and feather them!
via mcjoan
The Idaho Election Campaign Fund, for which Idahoans have checked boxes on their state tax returns since 1975 if they want to donate a dollar to a political party of their choice or to a general political campaign fund, this year is giving more money to the Democrats than the Republicans. The checks, which will be handed over to the parties in a ceremony tomorrow, total $35,540 for the Democrats and $30,891 for the Republicans. The Libertarian Party will collect $2,854 and the Constitution Party $2,144.
The Moral Issue
By Norm Kalmanovitch
I have spent the last 3 days driving back to Calgary from Montreal which has given me the opportunity to ponder the reality of this whole issue (of man-made global warming). Our letter to the UN demonstrates that this is not an issue of science but a moral issue of self serving individuals imposing their ideology on the world under the guise of environmentalism and this has caused nothing but hardship for the entire world.
It is not about science because the globe is cooling and CO2 is increasing falsifying the hypothesis. It is not about reducing fossil fuel consumption because biofuels do not increase the energy supply but in fact require more energy than they produce. Sequestering CO2 is also a negative with respect to energy because the compression of CO2 to 30 atmospheres requires the energy equivalent of about 5000bbls for each megatonne sequestered.
It is not about the environment because CO2 is not a pollutant and this issue focuses primarily on reducing CO2 and totally ignores the actual pollution from fossil fuels as is clearly demonstrated by the current state of the air quality in Beijing which has resulted primarily from coal fired power plants that have no pollution controls. It is not about economics because unlike the premise of the Stern Report that states economic
benefit to addressing human caused global warming now as opposed to the cost of dealing with its consequences, there is no human caused global warming to address so there are no consequences of human caused global warming to face in the future.
Like it or not the global economy is based on energy. The countries with the highest energy consumption are the economic leaders and those with the lowest are the poorest countries. All of the global temperature datasets show that the world has cooled since 2002. In 2002 the oil price was $27.60/bbl; in the last month it has peaked to over $145.00/bbl. By 2002 the warmers realized that the global thermometers were not supporting their agenda and they stepped up the rhetoric about impending disasters and vilified CO2 as a pollutant and the source of this problem. The most significant consequence of this attack on CO2 was to make new coal fired power generation an uneconomic venture because “clean coal” now required sequestering CO2 which increases the cost by at least 3 times. Effectively this removes coal as a competitive energy source and with nuclear energy already in the environmental bad books there is no competitive alternative to oil and therefore no price control. Without this control, speculators can take advantage of every rumor about possible threats to the oil supply and drive up the price of oil to its current level with no energy alternative providing a ceiling cap to the price.
I think Johne, Pamb and greggy are trolls. They are here to make the party look bad with goofy communistic and Anti American views.
Pammy has even had her nutty views reported in the Wall Street Journal and on Fox News!
The Idaho Election Campaign Fund, for which Idahoans have checked boxes on their state tax returns since 1975 if they want to donate a dollar to a political party of their choice or to a general political campaign fund, this year is giving more money to the Democrats than the Republicans. The checks, which will be handed over to the parties in a ceremony tomorrow, total $35,540 for the Democrats and $30,891 for the Republicans. The Libertarian Party will collect $2,854 and the Constitution Party $2,144.
Posted by dorsano on August 17, 2008 at 04:28 AM
You are reading a lot into a meaningless statistic. The only win for the Democrats in Idaho will be a new Republican to replace the dishonored fag Larry Craig.
We don't have to. All we have to do is whisper our suspicions and spread rumors.Posted by SandyH on August 16, 2008 at 08:30 PM
bush's saber rattling around the world is unacceptable to me for one and I am not going to stand by and watch this asshole destroy my country.
Posted by Johne on August 16, 2008 at 10:04 PM
All sounds like a liberal plot to undermine our national security. its a conspiracy.
Due to popular demand, we are going to extend "Rightwing Day" to include today.
Common sense in Texas!
North Texas school district will let teachers carry guns
Associated Press
HARROLD, Texas — A tiny Texas school district may be the first in the nation to allow teachers and staff to pack guns for protection when classes begin later this month, a newspaper reported.
Trustees at the Harrold Independent School District approved a district policy change last October so employees can carry concealed firearms to deter and protect against school shootings, provided the gun-toting teachers follow certain requirements.
In order for teachers and staff to carry a pistol, they must have a Texas license to carry a concealed handgun; must be authorized to carry by the district; must receive training in crisis management and hostile situations and have to use ammunition that is designed to minimize the risk of ricochet in school halls.
Superintendent David Thweatt said the small community is a 30-minute drive from the sheriff's office, leaving students and teachers without protection. He said the district's lone campus sits 500 feet from heavily trafficked U.S. 287, which could make it a target.
"When the federal government started making schools gun-free zones, that's when all of these shootings started. Why would you put it out there that a group of people can't defend themselves? That's like saying 'sic 'em' to a dog," Thweatt said in Friday's online edition of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.
Thweatt said officials researched the policy and considered other options for about a year before approving the policy change. He said the district also has various other security measures in place to prevent a school shooting.
"The naysayers think (a shooting) won't happen here. If something were to happen here, I'd much rather be calling a parent to tell them that their child is OK because we were able to protect them," Thweatt said.
Texas law outlaws firearms on school campuses "unless pursuant to the written regulations or written authorization of the institution."
It was unclear how many of the 50 or so teachers and staff members will be armed this fall because Thweatt did not disclose that information, to keep it from students or potential attackers. Wilbarger County Sheriff Larry Lee was out of the office Thursday and did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment, the newspaper said.
Barbara Williams, a spokeswoman for the Texas Association of School Boards, said her organization did not know of another district with such a policy. Ken Trump, a Cleveland-based school security expert who advises districts nationwide, including in Texas, said Harrold is the first district with such a policy.
The 110-student district is 150 miles northwest of Fort Worth on the eastern end of Wilbarger County, near the Oklahoma border
Does evil exist, and if so, do we ignore it, do we negotiate with it, do we contain it, or do we defeat it?
Obama: "...A lot of evil has been perpetrated in the claim that we were trying to confront evil."
He's not talking about another country there. He's talking about the US perpetrating evil.
Does evil exist, and if so, do we ignore it, do we negotiate with it, do we contain it, or do we defeat it?
McCain: Defeat it.
I am beginning to like McCain. He is beginning to realize that their have been no non wartime Presidents who governed as liberals and were declared good Presidents. (i.e. Johnson Carter) Kennedy was a conservative and Clinton a moderate.
McCain kicked Hussein Obama's ass in that Rick Warren fiasco. Hussein came off as a wishwashy phony whilst McCain was decisive and firm.
She obviously had no idea that Democrats lived in her vicinity and shop at the same stores. I guess she'll have to move...to Paraguay?
Posted by SandyH on August 16, 2008 at 03:20 PM
Sounds to me like she will be one of the few who will be able to afford the water that gw owns in Paraguay.
Good morning, everyone. No slacker Sunday for me. We are pulling 7 days a week, 12 hour shifts.
Today we are splitting a shift. I only need to work 6 hours today. ;P
evil theme, anyone? (becuase I'm feeling a little Lucy today)
1 Samuel 16:16 Let our lord now command thy servants, which are before thee, to seek out a man, who is a cunning player on an harp: and it shall come to pass, when the evil spirit from God is upon thee, that he shall play with his hand, and thou shalt be well.
18:10 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the evil spirit from God came upon Saul, and he prophesied in the midst of the house: and David played with his hand, as at other times: and there was a javelin in Saul's hand.
19:9 And the evil spirit from the LORD was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with his hand.
God created Evil spirits;
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Was sent by God;
Judges 9:23 Then God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with Abimelech:
Posted by Sally-* on August 17, 2008 at 07:09 AM
repug talking points, nothing more, nothing less.
Beautiful weather here.
My Bella won the LC princess contest yesterday. I took her on her first amusement ride. She loves her Mamey...and I love her more than I thought was imaginable. I can't wait for the 2 December babies!
Life is good and getting better all the time.
Enjoy the day, everyone.
Morning Essie and dusty,
We had a good lightning storm and rain last night. Our dogs were scared stiff.
I am glad your life is better. Keep up the good fight.
Morning gregg,
I have been trying to plant a gate post in concrete for about a week now but it has been either windy or rainy. Yesterday I finally got one planted. I am doing the next one today.
I bought these fancy gates with two automatic openers. One set is for my driveway and the other set is for my orchard. The gates are really upscale and look great out in the middle of nowhere. The drive gate has a solar panel.
I bought a long range transmitter and can open the gates 600 feet away from my veranda.
i find it sad that the presidential candidates have to "prove" their faith in christian theology in order to get elected. what are those of us who don't follow such faith suppose to think has happened to our country? i want a president who doesn't depend on mysticism to know right from wrong or to fashion a national agenda. i doubt very much that either obama or mcsame believe as strongly as they are insisting in the existence of god, they are most likely skeptical agnostics who use church attendance to placate voters who are looking to get to paradise someday. we would all be better off with leaders who were focused on creating paradise here on earth...
This is very interesting. Why are we protecting British pipelines? It seems that one was damaged by fire and not by the godless Russians as bush claims.
"British oil company BP PLC says it has resumed pumping gas into a pipeline that runs through Georgia, while two oil pipelines that also run through the country remain closed.
BP says it began pumping gas into the Baku-Tbilisi-Erzurum pipeline earlier Thursday. It had stopped pumping gas into the pipeline on Tuesday because of security fears.
BP's Baku-Supsa oil pipeline - also shut down on Tuesday - remains closed as the company continues to assess the security situation.
The larger Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan line remains out of action after a fire earlier this month on the Turkish section of the line. BP says that engineers are still trying to review the damage and no time has been set for the reopening of that line.
gregg,
We have about 2 acres contained in barbed wire and need a gate to keep the cattle out. The rest of the property is open range. At first I thought the gate would look ridiculous but now that it is in place it really looks classy. Check out AmazingGates.com,
That really bothers me that Obama is kissing up to these religious freaks. Of course one of the first subjects mentioned was apparently "abortion".
mclame was kissing their collective asses and Obama told the audience that we need to support women with support programs and not just leave them on their own to the wolves. Women are now being forced into abortions because of worries about how they can afford to support them.
Naturally they are going to seek abortion. If abortion is once prohibited, these women will still seek illegal abortions because of their living conditions.
These bastards just don't get it. I was reading that under Clinton, the number of abortions was being reduced because the women received help.
Are these fascist pigs going to put women in jail for having an abortion and letting them starve to death forcing them to have the child. This seems to be their plan.
We need to quit pandering to these morons.
I suppose the subject of stem cell research also came up at this debacle.
Occasionally I listen to the religious extremist bates brothers. Their entire political agenda is abortion, stem cell research and killing those nasty Muslims. They couldn't care less about America. They contend that it should be every man for himself and there should be very little federal government. These guys are ignoramuses.
One of these malcontents claims to have a doctorate and claims to be an expert in economics, foreign affairs, etc.,etc. He most likely received his "degree" from regency U.
I can't stand these hateful pricks. The people who call in are also hateful losers who eat up all this bullcrap these two spew every weekday on the air.
johne, that is funny cause once i lived in conn. in a little cabin in the middle of about a thousand acres of open fields that cattle roamed on. sometimes we would wake up and there would be a giant face looking at us in the window. they also liked to chew the remains in the bottom of our barb-q pit which is where we mostly grilled steaks....
gregg,
Before we had the fence put in we had a horse staring in our family room window looking for a handout. Of course he could have been watching television.
Gregg,
Got to walk the dogs and put in that last gate post. bbl.
Am I the only one but did Obama screw up the big one by walking into the lions den last night? I tried to watch but felt he was totally fake.
Why oh why did he ever think going to the town Hall religious crape last night was gong to bolster his polls? If anything, it only made the religious wackos more into the McSane camp.
I am sickened by what Obama did last night. Big mistake!
Fine, then stay the fuck home in November, you hate filled bitch.
Posted by Johne on August 17, 2008 at 08:35 AM
maybe these women should learn about birthcontrol or even better, SELFCONTROL instead of going out and screwing around like there is no tomorrow. You wouldn´t need abortions and there would be a hell of a lot less little bastards running around.
Fine, then stay the fuck home in November, you hate filled bitch.
Posted by GregL on August 17, 2008 at 09:59 AM
Gee, the natives(cannibals) are restless.
The liberals' intolerance by Klaus Rohrich Wednesday, February 8, 2006Last week I heard some left-wing commentator talk about how "dangerous" the "Religious Right" is and how an overtly Christian agenda has wound its way into conservatism. Hmmm. As a card-carrying member of the vast-right-wing-conspiracy this is news to me. I haven't heard a lot of "God is on our side" rhetoric emanating from my fellow conservatives. But assuming that there are some devout Christians who have gotten interested in politics, so what?
Does having strongly-held religious beliefs automatically disqualify one from participating in a democracy? Well, if you listen to the hysterical rantings of people like Al Franken and Michael Moore, you'd think the Spanish Inquisition was being revived in America because Christians are getting involved in politics.
It's really interesting to note that when some liberal icons, like the famously incompetent former President Jimmy Carter, or the famously incompetent former Vice-President Al Gore, talk about their faith and God, they're transformed into paragons of goodness. Yet According to left/lib orthodoxy conservative Christians pose a grave danger and should be disenfranchised.
See, there is yet another example of liberalism's famous contradictions. You would never hear a liberal say that fundamentalist Muslims, for instance, should barred from voting as they pose a danger to our way of life. Even if they espoused hatred toward Western culture, it's considered their right in a free society. Anyone who would dare suggest that Islam might be a threat to our way of life would be vilified by liberals; yet, they'd take the vote away from Jerry Falwell in a New York minute.
We are all familiar with the Rev. Jessie Jackson and the Rev. Al Sharpton, both of who figure prominently among liberals as outstanding leaders of the civil rights movement. But no one is warning Americans about the dangers of their faith, even if that faith is apparently the same as that of those on the "Religious Right".
What's with that? Is it because the Rev. Jackson, who is famous for putting the bite on American corporations with threats of mass boycotts and using the proceeds to pay off his mistress, is an alleged black civil rights leader? Or is it because Jackson has been given some kind of special dispensation from Chuck Schumer or Ted Kennedy and is therefore an "acceptable" Christian.
The Rev. Sharpton, you may recall, was involved in the Tamara Brawley affair some years ago, which amounted to bearing false witness (a Christian ‘no-no') as the rape that Tamara and the Rev. Sharpton alleged never occurred. Those falsely accused are still waiting for an apology. What makes Sharpton's faith acceptable over George W. Bush's and why is it that no one seems to be able to note the contradictions of the liberals' viewpoint?
It appears that liberals have a built-in filtering mechanism, somewhat like those 3-D glasses they used to give you at the movies that allows them to determine good Christians from bad Christians. I don't think it's a color thing, as that would have sunk former President Jim-ah and I certainly don't think it's a "character" thing, as that would sink both Jackson and Sharpton.
So the only reason to fear conservative Christians would seems to be their belief in "traditional values", which are directly opposed to the radical left's anti-family, pro poly-sexual agenda.
Jimmy Carter seems to constantly be defending America's enemies, among them some individuals whose world views are a hell of a lot scarier than any Christian, while Sharpton and Jackson are working hard to keep African Americans down on the liberal plantation, as it is in their own self-interest for them do so.
Yet those who have a belief system that opposes the cynical nihilism of the left are reviled as iconoclasts and treated like pariahs. What's wrong with this picture?
LIBERAL RACISM AND CONDI RICE By Michelle Malkin • November 17, 2004 03:37 PMWhen it comes to minority conservatives, liberal bigotry knows no bounds. Readers of this blog will recall the recent racist scribblings of liberal cartoonists in hoods, Ted Rall and Jeff Danziger.
The great Rush Limbaugh has picked up on this thread, with links to new anti-Rice cartoons. Winfield Myers, who blogs at The Democracy Project, adds more here.
As Dr. Rice’s star rises, expect even uglier attacks. There’s nothing the Left hates more than a “person of color” who is a person of substance and stature and intellect and independence first.
The Liberal Bill of Wrongs# Liberals supposedly champion the downtrodden, but care nothing for the people who must bear the brunt of their ill-advised and socially- disruptive programs, especially the lower classes. It has been pointed out many times that "compassionate" liberal programs such as welfare have wreaked havoc among the poor, and especially blacks, whose motivation to succeed by their own efforts has been sapped by these programs. What has rarely been mentioned, however, is the fact that liberal programs usually affect the working class adversely while leaving untouched the wealthier classes to which most of the liberals belong. For example, the liberals can usually afford to move to the suburbs and/or send their kids to private school, while the working class cannot, and thus must contend by themselves with the liberal-created devastation and criminality of the inner cities.
# Liberals are fascists. While liberals rightly denounce totalitarianism of the right, they are quite acclimated to similar behavior on the left. From speech codes to economic regulation up the ass, from mandatory seat belts to mandatory integration, liberal fascism lacks only the goose step and the nazi salute.
conservative Christians hate the poor that not "traditional values
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