Alaska is nothing more than a republican welfare state!!

Average income per household in Alaska is $54,000 per year.

Average spending by Alaska the state under Palin is $40,000 per family per year.

What kind of crap spend happy monkey are the repugnants electing!!???

In Ohio alone, at least two governors in recent history were literally elected by voters who stayed home on Election Day. Democrats must not allow this diversion to create the assumption that Obama's election is a 'shoe-in.' The Republican proletariat might be malleable but they do turn out for the vote.

Posted by misterconcept on September 2, 2008 at 02:22 PM

You are SO right.

The biggest job we shall have this fall, is to make sure every single one of those millions of new Democrats we got signed up for the Primaries, come out for the general! Blacks, Women, Youth, every single one of them.

That is the key. the Republicans can cheat all they want to again, but with millions of new voters they might as well stay home.

BTW, my neighbor flagged my car down as i drove off a while ago to go to the veggie stand.

He said "What do you think of the VP choice for McCain"? I laughed and said she is a joke.

He said, "well that made up my mind for me. I was unsure who to vote for, but to think this woman will probably BE the President within the next four years just scares me off!"

So one by one, they will turn out and turn up.

Media starts debate on whether Palin should leave the ticket:

“I’m not sure what she brings to the ticket other than she’s a woman and a conservative. Well, she’s a better speaker than McCain,” Faye Palin said with a laugh.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/02/media-starts-asking-if-palin-should-leave-ticket/

testing!

Palin is the "LARRY CRAIG OF FAMILY PLANNING", she and her daughter has a wide stance!!

Good afternoon, Democrats, moderates, Independents and curious undecided Republicans.

President Bush is going to address the GOP convention tonight via teleconference after the President and leader of the Republican Party was pulled from the program last night by the McCain camp....but his wife Laura was warmly welcomed.

Rudy Guilani was also pulled from the program tonight without any explanation.

Featured speakers from the last Republican Convention Gov. Arnold declined to attend and Zell Miller was spotted in Denver looking for the convention center.

McCain stands firm that he fully vetted Palin... although he spoke to her just once last week. You usually get the results from the effort that you put into a job?

Posted by SandyH on September 2, 2008 at 03:27 PM

I saw the video, Sandy. He looked long and hard at her ass-ets.

PamB,

The word is the republicans are going to stay home to engage in local negative campaign ads. Remember elections are local events not national events. They feel they can get a bigger bang for their buck with a "Wide Stance" local negative campaign!! This is because if the local republicans engage in district by disctict negative campaign it will not be captured in national news!!

Remember, elections are local events; even presidental elections are local events. That's because people do not fly to a national polling station to participate in national elections, they participate in local elections for national offices!!

Republicans are going to focus on local district by district negative campaigns during this election cycle!!

Posted by HybridFuel on September 2, 2008 at 03:07 PM

Hybrid,

That's what I don't get.

Alaska is one of the biggest welfare states in the world. They supplement every citizen with money from the oil revenues...otherwise they would all be living waaay below poverty levels in a state with one of the highest cost of living.

Is Governor Palin going to make sure those oil revenues are shared among those of us in the lower 48 and Hawaii?

He said "What do you think of the VP choice for McCain"? I laughed and said she is a joke.

Posted by PamB on September 2, 2008 at 03:21 PM

hi pam and everyone...i haven't had much to say lately but this palin vp thing is just too much. everyone i've talked to also thinks it's a joke. of course the right-wing religious zealots see it differently and think it the best thing since velveta. my question to these hypocrites is what would they be doing now if instead of a pregnancy, their abstinence-only teachings had resulted in hiv/aids instead? my guess is they'ld be throwing palin and her daughter under the proverbial bus.

peace, prosperity, and let's kick butt in november!

Posted by SandyH on September 2, 2008 at 03:36 PM

hell no Sandy! She's a conservative for crying out loud. What's hers is hers and what's ours is hers. In GOP-land it makes perfect sense, trust me.

I heard that one supporter of her "qualities" actually argued that because she lives relatively closer to Russia then most of US, that Palin therefore has "foreign security" credentials.

McBush may have pulled off a trifecta of loser picking. The Hillary supporters hate her because she lacks all the qualities that Hillary brought with her; the old white men (besides McHardon) don't trust her because she's not wearing a prairie dress and baking cookies; the Joe Nascars hate her because she puts America last.

This pick only makes people wonder who he'd be filling his cabinet with. Any ideas?

I'm going to throw out a theory why Bush is going to speak to the convention.

Bush is upset that McCain is keeping Lieberman on the program and not showing him the respect he thinks he is due. It's personal.

But someone else...I'm not sure...insisted that Bush be given a more visible presence at this convention as a way of signaling they are still in control...and intends that the Bush Crime Family will not be replaced by mavericks and evangelicals.

I believe there is a much bigger battle going on behind the scenes of the Republican Party.

The GOP is scrambling and their standard bearer has shot himself in the foot...with the Bush Crime Family stalking his every stumbling, bumbling move looking for an opportunity to pounce on the next mistake.

For all the BS the corporate media threw out there about a lack of unity in the Democratic Party. The real story was developing in the GOP since March.

That said. Who cares? Let them stab each other in the back.

We experienced a good old fashioned, traditional contest between two great Democratic candidates. We have already united. Let's take our advantage and maximize it.

Work harder and longer. Look for opportunities and votes everywhere you go. Keep our newly registered voters energized and encourage the undecided to make the best choice.

Afternoon all good Dems!

When my daughter first landed in alaska a couple years ago, on a 10 month business assignment, she was told by the local women that there were more men that women there, and "The odds are good, but the goods are odd"!

I have a feeling that goes for most of the state.!

Kind of like in Hinckley, MN. There are more women than men there, yet not one single one of them will give Steve the time of day! :0

Is your's a paid internship or do you just get college credit for re-posting Republican copy points off their wire?

I bet you wish you got that Heritage Foundation plum assignment instead. Your efforts are being noted by absolutely nobody in the conservative movement.

You are not in the trenches networking with the true up and comers within the Party. Your's is a lonely job. And you aren't even good at it.

Take a cigarette break. Nobody will notice.

don't let your friends fall for that "drill now, drill here" bit!!

John McCain Wants to Drill in Your Toilet: Part II

Anyhow, the basic point is straightforward. There is very little oil potentially available in the areas in which the Republicans are anxious to drill here and now. The Energy Information Agency (EIA) - remember, these people work for President Bush - tells us that the oil in the offshore-protected areas will eventually add about 0.2 percent to world's oil output. This would be sufficient to lower the price of gas by 3-4 cents a gallon.

http://www.truthout.org/article/john-mccain-wants-drill-your-toilet-part-ii

ahhh, so they were hoping to keep the lie about the daughter under wraps until after the election. Take a glimpse of the poor kid's face in the background here, with her body covered by the downs baby and her blanket to try and disguise it! Couldn't just leave the litter at home, could they!

"St. Paul - Only four days ago, the nation's voters were asked to accept John McCain's assurances that Sarah Palin, known to only a tiny portion of the public and barely to McCain himself, was fully suited to be vice president.

But now the magnitude of McCain's gamble is becoming clear.

For every piece of the portrait of Palin that the McCain campaign sketches, a far more complicated picture of the Alaska governor is drawn.

The youthful mother of five whose placement on the ticket was meant to reinforce traditional values has now revealed that her unmarried teenage daughter is pregnant - a piece of information that the family and the campaign said they had hoped to keep private.

The woman introduced to America as a reform-minded Washington outsider who opposed the infamous "bridge to nowhere" - the symbol of McCain's hatred of wasteful spending - originally supported its construction. The governor who in her introductory speech decried the practice of budgetary "earmarks" sought, as the state's chief executive and as mayor of Wasilla, hundreds of millions of dollars in such federal funding for local projects.

Moreover, Palin has now retained a lawyer to represent her in a controversy the McCain campaign said it had fully researched - Palin's role in dismissing a state police official who had refused to fire a trooper who divorced Palin's sister.

http://www.truthout.org/article/with-palin-revelations-mccains-gamble-is-clearer

hmmmmm, who was it used to say that old Bin Laden was all holed up in a cave and didn't have much of a life????? ahahahahaha

Al-Qaeda Has Free Movement in Pakistan, Top Official Concedes

http://www.truthout.org/article/al-qaeda-has-free-movement-pakistan-top-official-concedes

(Don't worry, the Democrats will finally get Bin Laden when they get in. While McCain is standing by the gates of hell looking for him)

Here we go again.

Todd Palin Was Registered Member of Alaska Independence Party Until 2002

The GOP has had to scrub their slogan "America First" because it looks and sounds too much like that sepatatist / secession fringe domestic terrorism group the Palins belong(ed) to.

GOP: “God Damn America!”

And a repost from the previous thread:

They have identified the remains of the guy who founded Palin's secession / separatist group. He was killed in a plastics explosive deal gone bad.

Palin joined a domestic terrorism group??

Remains of Alaska Separatist Are Identified

Why would that fringe group need plastics explosives?

Sarah Palin and the Alaska Independence Party. Palin addresses AIP convention

And here is a video of them saying that she was a member, but left in order to run for office.

Palin's fringe party colleague: "We don't say we're Americans. We say we're Alaskans."

Talk about a Manchurian Candidate!

Dearest X-tian Riech Repugnants,

Please explain the "Wide Stance Family Planning" policies of Sarah Palin? Please explain how her abstinence preaching does not apply to her own behavior or her daughter’s behavior??

Please explain how her policy of spending $6.6 billion on estimated 650 thousand people or $40,000 per family with such dismal results in Alaska can translate to a national policy for conservative spending and smaller government?

Alaska has a per capita income of $54,000 thousand; how can any reasonable governor spend $40,000 per family of four translate to such poor results in schooling, health benefits, corporate investment, infrastructure investments, etc. in Alaska and such poor employment results!!??

ahahahahaha, McCain was praying to be able to leave Bush out of the Convention, but Bushie say NO-NO.

The Battle Between McCain and Bush: The Cancelled First Night, The "Furious" President and the Palin Gambit

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sidney-blumenthal/the-battle-between-mccain_b_123147.html

BREAKING NEWS: Hot on the heels of his on-target pick for his VP, a McCain staff member leaks the first few picks to fill out his presumptive cabinet.

McCain’s Cabinet Picks:

Secretary of State: Melanie Griffith -- she played a hot secretary in Working Girl.

Secretary of the Treasury: Ivana Trump – she knows how to spend money, plus she’s hot.

Attorney General: Monica Goodling – like a younger Cindi.

Secretary of Health and Human Services: Laura Schlessinger – she’s a people person with a great backside.

Secretary of Defense: Tonya Harding – she looks hot in boxing gear.

Secretary of Agriculture: Ann Coulter – If she can live without food, the rest of us can too…plus she wears short skirts.

I agree with Sen. Obama, that the lives of family members should be 'out of bounds;' however, the primary planks of the republican platform are not. One of these 'planks' is the 'Abstinence Only' program that the GOPers have insisted upon. Gov. Palin, from all of the GOP descriptions, appears to have what the GOPers would term an ideal home life. They say that she and her husband provide a stable home with two responsible, hard-working parents that attend church regularly. They live in a relatively small town and are able to control, to a great degree, the influences upon their children. If that is the case, why did 'abstinence only' fail them so miserably? If the abstinence only programs fail so completely in what the GOPers consider an 'ideal family' life, how can they hope that it will succeed in what they perceive as less than an 'ideal' situation?
How can GOPers oppose reproductive health education and contraception, while favoring programs that are proven failures?
Gov. Palin stubbornly refuses to consider programs other than abstinence only while facing the obvious failure of these very programs. This tells me that she is either unwilling or unable to learn from her own or anyone else's mistakes. She exhibits bad judgment and is too arrogant to admit it. . That is not who I want in any position of influence or power in my country.

One of the most disturbing events of this Labor Day weekend was the arrest of several journalists who were attempting to cover the antiwar protest at the Republican Convention. You can hear Amy Goodman's report here or read a transcript here. It's important to keep in mind these journalists were not themselves protesters. They were not affiliated with the antiwar group. They were completely independent reporters attempting to do their job. What does this mean for our democracy? Is our news media now to be wholly owned and controlled by corporate interests backed up by police forces paid for by citizens? This is an issue that needs immediate attention and redress.

Putting on my tin hat, I envision a scenario where an election is again stolen, but this time citizens take to the streets in protest. There they are met by brutal riot-control police forces using the same tactics employed in the reports above. It's not a pretty picture. Eventually people may decide that dying for democracy doesn't happen only in other countries. It may happen anywhere freedom is curtailed.

If you’re afraid to sit for an interview, how the hell can you back up the president in negotiations, preside over the senate, and for Christ’s sake, be commander-in-chief in a time of emergency?

Davis demurred when asked when Palin will sit for interviews with major news organizations, pointing out that now would not be the right time given the ‘combative’ attitude the media has seemingly adopted toward Palin. Pressed on the issue, Davis insisted that ‘we allot a lot more access in our campaign than any campaign in modern political history….we’ll get around to it.’

I’m sure somewhere in John McCain’s addled mind he was reaching out to women voters, particularly those who supported Sen. Clinton, but at the end of the day his pick of Palin just insults all women.

http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/02/palin-cant-stand-up-to-media-how-can-she-be-a-heartbeat-away/

Posted by marymac_memphis on September 2, 2008 at 04:31 PM

Mary, Did you read Max Blumenthal's article on Palin? Very scary, indeed.

So. This is what being pandered to feels like.

John McCain picked Sarah Palin, governor of Alaska and mother of five, to be his running mate to woo women like me.

He seems to think that my girlfriends and I are so disappointed that an utterly qualified woman is not going to be president that we will jump at the chance to vote for an utterly unqualified woman for vice president.

You gotta love a guy who thinks things are that simple.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/features/bal-te.reimer01sep01,0,3951691.column

Please explain the "Wide Stance Family Planning" policies of Sarah Palin? Posted by HybridFuel on September 2, 2008 at 04:24 PM

It's called "Peanut Butter Legs".

They're easy to spread.

PamB,

The repugnants want to drill where we do not want them to drill, so at a later time they can have an environmental disaster whereby the people have to pay for the poor clean up job.

They want to shit on your lawn and make you pay to clean up their mess!! Just like always!

If a company purchases a lease to drill today, it would take:

1) 1-2 years waiting list before finding someone to explore the area leased.
2) 2-3 years of exploration before understanding the results of their lease.
3) 2-3 years before setting up a production drill head.
4) 3-5 years before a platform can be constructed for the site.
5) 2 more years before the oil from the site can be brought to a refinery.

Average time is more than 10 years!!

The billions needed to build a site can better be utilized to build a wind farm. A megawatt wind turbine is about $2.5 million dollars. For a billion dollars needed to build a platform to harness oil ten years from today, one can purchase 40 megawatt of turbine wind power. If a second billion is used to build a solar farm, a billion dollars can build many megawatts solar farm. If another billion is spend on energy storage units to buffer the times when wind and solar are not producing (which is rare), power can be supplied 24-7.

How many millions of barrels of oil can be replaced by spending $3 billion on wind, solar and energy storage sites?

Why do we need to transfer billions of wealth to a select few?

We are at a turning point, just like the 19th century was a turning point for horses, donkeys and ox power. As the population grew, it became impractical for every adult to own a horse, donkey or ox. The land and feed needed to support the animals in the city, the manpower needed to remove the manure and piss, the stables, the animal doctors, the slow speed; the animal parking just became an obstacle for industrial growth. Horses, donkeys and ox produce 10 times the waste of humans and motorized power. That is why motorized power came into being. Today we are at that same turning point; it has become impractical to continue to use fossil fuel. The capital development cost, the pollution, the scarcity, and the per capita spending needing to power the economy will become a burden on advancement of our society.

That is why we must get away from fossil fuel economy.

By show of hands, how many think that Palin will use her child, Trig, in the campaign, as often as mcBush uses his worn out get-out-of-everything POW card?

Posted by tylinCA on September 2, 2008 at 04:41 PM
I have not, but I will right now. Thanks for the link.
By the way - loved your post about the arrest of the journalists and I could not agree MORE!

How's this for an observation?

"Sarah Palin could very well be the future face of the Republican Party."

That's what a pundit just told Tom Brokaw on MSNBC.

I bet that sets a chill up the spine of Mitt Romeny (if he has one), Guilani, and Dick Cheney.

The pundit said that John McCain is 72 and in poor health. He most likely would not run in 2012 if he loses this time.

So by putting Palin on the ticket as VP, McCain has propelled her to the top of the Party and she would then control the mechanism by which the next Republican nominee will be chosen.

The Christian Right is now going to be fully in charge of the next election cycle for the Republicans? A one issue party that appeals to only a narrow group of demographics?

Priceless.

Every time the Pugs try to spin this preggers daughter story it just gets worse.

They Are Family

Mice. She sandbagged her own kid.

Kathy!

The repugnant are stating its a family matter. Well of course it's a family matter. It's a matter of poor family planning when a 24 year old goes and elopes. It's poor family planning when a 16 year old daughter is sleeping around and gets knocked up. It more stupendous when that same person is preaching abstinance when her own conduct and the conduct of her daughter do not represent what her public statements and policies!!

Palin is the Larry Craig of Family Planning, it's a WIDE STANCE Family Planning policy!!

Hillary to step up campaigning against Palin

McSame can't stand up to Larry King, so he cancels tonight's appearance. He says it's because Campbell Brown was a meanie to his flack hack.

Infuriated About Tough CNN Interview, McCain Cancels Larry King Appearance

Yes, but he can go toe to toe with Pooty-Poot, right?

The "straight talk express" is looking more and more like a train wreck.

Sandy - that is just plain scary. We would really be countryless then.

McCain always goes for the risky choice. He likes to live dangerously. He likes to make people upset.

That's what the pundit are saying to Chris Matthews on Hardball.

This is what worried Americans want to hear about the way the Republican presidential candidate operates...especially when his back is against the wall?

McCain is the presidential candidate and he's looking weaker and more reckless with every day this woman stays on the ticket.

But he can't take her off of it without the Christian Right having a hissy fit...and making himself look like he was confused and had to backtrack.

That's their new slogan:

McSame incompetence that you can dependent on happening over and over again?

Mrs. Clinton’s friends said she was galled that Ms. Palin might try to capitalize on a movement that Mrs. Clinton, of New York, built among women in the primaries….Guy Cecil, the former political director of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign, said it was “insulting” for Republicans to compare Ms. Palin to Mrs. Clinton. “It is insulting to compare Hillary’s lifetime of service and her commitment to progressive causes with that of a novice, right-wing governor,” Mr. Cecil said.

If I were Hillary, I would be livid that a women who is not a creditable candidate is demeaning a life time of service!

I look forward to the debate about a woman making the choice to have a special needs child.

It rolls naturally into the Democratic agenda which provides universal health care.

Without Governor Palin's state paid health plan or her husband's union plan, how could they be adequately providing the expensive health care that such a child must have for the rest of its life?

The GOP would give them a $5,000 a year credit if they set up a individual health plan. After that the Palin's baby would be on its own.

HAH!

She lied about going to Ireland as part of her "international experience" (she had a 45 minute refueling stopover at Shannon airport and she went to a duty free store), and now it turns out that she WASN'T "Miss Congeniality" either. When she gussied up her Wikipedia page 15 minutes before the announcement it looks like she just started piling on the BS.

And...

...gwin, who was president of her class, does not recall palin holding school office. the wikipedia entry on palin said she was head of the school's fellowship of christian athletes and captain of the basketball team

she's no sandra bullock

Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on September 2, 2008 at 04:49 PM

He served as a senator in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. That's what he was referring to.

Good evening ya all.

Now this is getting fun!!!

McCain Throws Tantrum Over CNN Interview Hotlist
by gsadamb [Subscribe]
Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 01:42:19 PM PDT

According to Wolf Blitzer, John McCain was supposed to give an interview to CNN today. Excerpts of this interview were to be shown throughout CNN's Tuesday coverage of the RNC.

However, McCain has since withdrawn from this interview. I don't have a direct quote, but Blitzer tells us that the McCain camp claims that Campbell Brown's interview with Tucker Bounds last night went too far. What's "too far?" Simply insisting that he gives an example of Sarah Palin's foreign policy experience.

Video, just in case you haven't seen it, after the jump.

* gsadamb's diary :: ::
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Blitzer rightly noted that CNN doesn't feel as if the conversation was out of bounds (no pun intended), and that it's America's right to know if the VP pick has any foreign policy experience whatsoever.

What's been McCain's line in the past? "Hysterical" response? Yes, I think that's it.

So, what do you think? Legitimate outrage, or is McCain just afraid to confront a national media that all of a sudden has developed the backbone to ask about his judgment?

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/2/163035/8405/137/583631

No Way. No How. No McCain.

Posted by Kathy_from_Indiana on September 2, 2008 at 05:21 PM

Sen. Clinton needs to be all over this pretender! I love Sen. Biden and totally agree with Sen. Obama's choice for VP but I would have dearly loved to see Sen. Clinton debate (demolish) her! Sen. Clinton's speech was one of the highlights of the DNC. Let's see if Palin's speech even compares!

PHOTO: The image that proves McCain has lost this one, big time Hotlist
by Jsn [Subscribe]
Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 02:02:55 PM PDT

Right-wing-talking-point idiocy and nattering pseudopunditry aside, the Palin VP candidacy is indisputably dead in the water. If you've ever spent five minutes in a checkout counter, you'll know that the image that follows is proof of that.

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As Rick Klein says on his ABC news blog:

Let’s say you don’t read The New York Times or The Washington Post (or The Note, for that matter). Let’s say you don’t follow the big political blogs and you’re not obsessed with every turn of the screw of this fascinating presidential race.

Let’s say, instead, like millions of working-class Americans, you get your “news” on the political race from the supermarket aisle. Let’s say you’re -- I don’t know, a “hockey mom” -- and you’re intrigued by this Sarah Palin person you’ve been hearing so much about since Friday.

So you’re shopping this week -- and what do you see on the cover of US Weekly? That esteemed journalistic institution is taking it right to John McCain’s running mate -- with a hard-hitting piece that details the “scandal” involving her daughter’s pregnancy.

“BABIES, LIES & SCANDAL,” screams the headline on the cover, with a picture of a smiling Palin holding her fifth child, 4-month-old Trig.

Inside is a collection of Palin lowlights -- from her daughter’s now well-known pregnancy; to Internet rumors that the governor pretended to be pregnant to cover for her daughter; to “troopergate”; to her onetime support for the “bridge to nowhere”; to a radio appearance where she giggled while shock jocks called a political rival a “bitch” and a “cancer.”

“Within hours of McCain’s surprise introduction of the little-known, charismatic mother of five as his running mate, the scandals began to emerge as quickly as flies at a Labor Day picnic,” Mara Reinstein writes for the magazine.

Um...yeah. Does everyone understand now why Obama has been signaling to back off on Sarah Palin? Because for once, the realities of this misbegotten candidacy are so apparent that even the supermarket tabloids can pick up on them.

You know, "back off!" is what they shout when a missile is misfiring on the launchpad--it's either going to fizzle out or explode. To quote Klein one last time:

It should be noted that there is no new reporting here that I can discern -- just a greatest hits from what’s out there.

But this, to me, is the clearest evidence yet that the McCain-Palin campaign is losing the battle over Palin’s image. US Weekly readers are the voters her selection was designed to attract. There’s not much to like in this early take -- and not much to indicate that the next round will be much better.

Amen. Despite the Republican's desperate attempts to the contrary, the framing of Palin has indisputably solidified. And keep in mind this is before she's opened her mouth in anything but a staged setting.

This missile's going nowhere. I, for one, am happy to back off.

Hey, we are giving Palin the vetting she deserves ...

McCain is toast.

No Way. No How. No McCain.

Posted by tylinCA on September 2, 2008 at 05:33 PM

Don't even bother trying to explain things to him. All he does is C & P talking points from Pug sites.

This is the clown who thinks a $192K Federal Grant to start up a Community Nursing Training Program at a local University is the height of pork barrel spending.

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on September 2, 2008 at 05:14 PM

DPD,

I saw that interview and the McCain flack was incredibly inept. Brown gave him plenty of opportunities to answer her questions and he just kept repeating copy points and campaign slogans.

Besides, I thought Brown was married to a Republican operative. Does this mean that even the GOP media plants are fed up with McCain?

Or, are we seeing the shadowing hand of the Fourth Branch reaching out to push all of McCain's buttons?

Here's the type of x-rated, partying children Palin is raising, good job mom and dad, real good job.

http://www.mediatakeout.com/2008/26330-explosive_pics_vp_candidate_palins_daughter_is_wilder_than_britney__pics_of_her_and_her_girls_getting_drunk_and_kissing_each_other.html

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on September 2, 2008 at 05:30 PM

DPD,

Oh, sure. Palin doen't lie. She would just embellish her WMD intel before attacking Iran.

What did she mean by Hockey Mom? Are we to believe that she was at the games cheering for her kids or was she personally coaching a few of the male players on the team?

I've seen the pin up posters. I bet they grace more than a few locker rooms in Alaska. That's a Hockey Mom?

Hey gang, here's another one. It would seem that the media has decided to do McCain's job of vetting Palin for him!

The WaPo is now reporting that Sarah Palin and her husband were part owners of a business that was shut down by the state for noncompliance with state regulations:

State records show the business ran into trouble with Alaska's division of corporations business and professional licensing after Palin became governor of the state in 2006.

A Feb. 11, 2007 letter to the governor's business partner advises that the car wash had "not filed its biennial report and/or paid its biennial fees," which were more than a year overdue.

The warning letter was written on state letterhead, which carried Palin's name at the top, next to the state seal.

On April 3, 2007, the state went further and issued a "certificate of involuntary dissolution" because of the car wash's failure to file its report and pay state licensing fees.

How can this woman be trusted to run the U.S. government if she can't even run a carwash in Anchorage with plenty of help?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/2/174313/9403/46/583730

Or, are we seeing the shadowing hand of the Fourth Branch reaching out to push all of McCain's buttons?

Posted by SandyH on September 2, 2008 at 05:59 PM
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Sandy, I don't know. McNasty has been particularly nasty to the media of late. I think he can't believe that they would actually ask him a tough question. He is used to softballs.

Why Sarah Palin is NOT like Hillary clinton!!

http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/contributors/1729

newsjunkie,

I'm so glad McCain has defined for everyone what being a maverick is.

Impulsive, hasty, risky, and reckless.

Now we know just how qualified Palin is for her job...just about as qualified as McCain is for his?

Actually, she seems to be more stable them him. It's not to late to flip the ticket?

Posted by newsjunkie on September 2, 2008 at 06:01 PM
This is a troubled kid. Didn't it occur to anyone that Palin's daughter is totally rebelling against her screwed up parents, and probably got pregnant so she could get married and get AWAY from them? Granted, from I've seen on line about the boyfriend, she is probably jumping from the frying pan into the fire, but this girl is yelling "HELP!",and not getting it.
I feel sorry for her. I pray she gets help from somewhere, I doubt if it will be from her parents.

I hope he doesn't dump her, I'm having too much fun.

NOW should be proud that Republicans are going to nominate Sarah Palin for Vice President this week. She is a very accomplished woman who proves on a daily basis that she can handle both her work load and her family life. But that is not good enough for them........

bwhahahahahahaha. Sarah Palin handles both her work and her family???? Her 17 year old is out in the back seat of a car making babies, and that is handling her family life?? Wonder what kind of stories she bought from the kid when she said she was going out so much?

The so called Family Values Party Is marching out there finest Family Value People to give speeches!

(1) McNuts, that throw his first disabled wife, that waited on him for how many years?

(2) Old womanizer Ruddy Tootie, just how many times has he been married?

(3) Liver Lips, who was a Democrat, then a Independent, now is a Republican in disguise.

(4) Who's next Larry Craig, a real family value man. Maybe it will be Scooter Libby, a real family values CROOK? Or maybe they will just march out old Osama Bin Laden. and declare that he has converted to the Christian religion and now is a Republican.

(5) And on top of that, the Chimp, the most unpopular President in History, and the worst, is going to speak.

Someone said you just can't make this stuff up, and i agree.

This is just so funny.

How can this woman be trusted to run the U.S. government if she can't even run a carwash in Anchorage with plenty of help?

Posted by rjsnj on September 2, 2008 at 06:08 PM

Well, I suppose if McCain had taken more than a day to vet his Veep before making the announcement, some of this might have come out?

Did you ever see that movie about the car wash in the inner city? I can see her now managing a car wash like that one.

I love it. Gregory just asked a pundit, "Do we know all we need to know about Palin to make an educated decision?" The pundit says, "We have 63 days left. I hope that's long enough." Then they all laughed.

McCain is regular comedian.

Butte, you are right. I do feel sorry for the girl. There is only one reason why Palin would defend the rumers of her recent pregnancy by telling the world her daughter is pregnant, instead of providing proof and keeping her out of it. If it's private, then it should have been kept private. She is the one that announced it. This isn't someone I would like to have around me.

I agree with Sen. Obama, that the lives of family members should be 'out of bounds;' however, the primary planks of the republican platform are not

I couldn't give a shit about the kid. When Cheney's lesbian daughter had a kid with another woman, who cared?

But for someone they want to make the POSTER GIRL of the GOP and the Religious Right and the Evangelical movement, to wait FIVE months and then demand the kid marry their daughter so it looked good to the American Voter, well, that is a bit too hypocritical to swallow.

Thank you James Dobson for handing the democrats the 2008 election. I guess god does work in mysterious ways. LMAO!

(5) And on top of that, the Chimp, the most unpopular President in History, and the worst, is going to speak.
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All Hail, The Chimpenfuhrer is going to speak!

Hybrid , Re: drilling

The reason for the ANWR drilling is very simple. Alaska (as they like to say) is adjacent to Russia and Asia! It will be very easy to ship and export that oil by the oil companies to China, India, and other countries that will pay a lot more for it, than they can rape the US citizens for! They have NO intention of leaving that oil here for the US! that is the hypocrisy of that theory.

GWB Library to Open in 2009

The George W. Bush Presidential Library is now in the planning stages. ·

*The Library will include:

The Hurricane Katrina Room, which is still under construction.

The Alberto Gonzales Room, where you won't be able to remember anything.

The Texas Air National Guard Room, where you don't even have to show up.

The Walter Reed Hospital Room, where they don't let you in.

The Guantanamo Bay Room, where they don't let you out.

The Weapons of Mass Destruction Room, which no one has been able to find.

The National Debt Room which is huge and has no ceiling.

The 'Tax Cut' Room with entry only to the wealthy..

The 'Economy Room' which is in the toilet.

The Iraq War Room. After you complete your first tour, they make you to go back for a second, third, fourth, and sometimes fifth tour.

The Dick Cheney Room, in the famous undisclosed location, complete with shotgun gallery.

The Environmental Conservation Room, still empty.

The Supreme Court's Gift Shop, where you can buy an election.

The Airport Men's Room, where you can meet some of your favorite Republican Senators.

The 'Decider Room' complete with dart board, magic 8-ball, Ouija board, dice, coins, and straws.

The museum will also have an electron microscope to help you locate the President's accomplishments

This missile's going nowhere. I, for one, am happy to back off.

Posted by rjsnj on September 2, 2008 at 05:44 PM

Nobody went after her family. She put them up there without a thought of what the consequences would be for her daughter. I don't see anyone going after the daughter.

If Palin was a man, you would not be saying this.
Backing off the vetting of an opposition candidate is not an option.

We need all the information about a public servant running for veep who may have done some ethical and legal things that demand being examined.

Palin is a candidate for one of the highest offices in the world...not a mere Hockey Mom who enjoys presenting the image of a maverick politician. We only have her word for it.

She refuses to grant interviews. She will not hold a press conference. How else do we find out the facts besides digging for them ourselves. The media has been behind the curve every step of the way with the McCain campaign.

Once all the info is out there. I'll step back. The major question now is why she isn't stepping forward.

Pre birth control, when girls got pregnant, the shot gun wedding took place the week after the girl told her parents ! Or else they went to St. Mary's Home for unwed mothers, where they had the baby, left it for adoption, and left.

Funny. Five months (second trimester) goes by, and then when McCain asks about VP slot, there is a quickie wedding planned! Bet that boys parents are livid. Of course, he and Bristol and the new First Grandchild will live with Gramma Sara in the White House when Grampy McCain corks off. I know the trolls all have their fingers crossed that that is very very soon after January 2009!

oooops, here is one that will scare the bejesus out of Repugs who thought they were getting 2 candidates who would bring a halt to abortion, and would find a way to terminate all gays!!

ST. PAUL (Reuters) - The Log Cabin Republicans endorsed Arizona Sen. John McCain's bid for the presidency on Tuesday, four years after the gay Republican group refused to back President George W. Bush's bid for reelection.

The endorsement may boost McCain's reputation as a maverick who reaches across partisan lines, but it may not go down well with his party's conservative Christian base."Sen. McCain is no George Bush when it comes to gay issues. We are much more optimistic and enthusiastic about Sen. McCain," Patrick Sammon, the group's president, told Reuters.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080902/pl_nm/usa_politics_republicans_gays_dc

heeheehee, there are trolls now reconsidering their votes for McCain!!!!! There must be something there, if the Gays like him!

Posted by PamB on September 2, 2008 at 06:27 PM
It is too hypocritical to swallow. Sarah, Todd and the Irreligious Right are doing enough damage to the kids with their glory hallelujah BS. She doesn't need smart ass remarks from our side too. She's got enough pain. Obama is right about leave the kids out of it. They have enough grief.
Besides, there's enough crap and corruption between Simple Sarah and ol' Toddy boy to bury them without dragging the kids into it.

Posted by PamB on September 2, 2008 at 06:27 PM

Pam,

Precisely.

We wouldn't be treating Mitt Romney with kid gloves. And we wouldn't be going after his daughter either.

She is the candidate and she's not putting herself out there for scrutiny. Are we to let her hide till the Veep debates and then have her suggest she's a victim that night and it's all Biden's fault?

That's the canard that the GOP has been floating around in the media from the start. I'm not going to let them set up Biden.

She has to state her case now. And she has to run as a political candidate with detailed programs and policies to address real problems facing Americans....not as a abuse victim or a televangelist.

I don't see her as a woman candidate. I see her as a weak sister who can't take the heat...just like McCain.

There is a New Evening Open Thread.

Pam,

Please repost your comment at 6:27 PM. It bears being repeated.

Who's backing off? These two gems of the North have had so much crap come out about them in the last 24 hours, that there has to be more.
I mean you have a pastor that makes Obama's pastor look positively mild, Todd's ties to Big Oil, the fact that Todd is the power behind the throne, the Alaska seccionist movement, shooting wolves and bears from a plane for sport (???!!!), getting the scope of the Valdez oil spill totally wrong (by a million barrels at least!), the lying about earmarks(like she'd thought nobody'd check?), the Troopergate investigation, the Librarian getting fired over banning books.
Shucks knows what's going to come out tomorrow!

Cnn was doing a survey on the street, asking people who was McNuts, running mate since Palin was a unknown. And belief it or not one older woman in probably her 50's said Obama.

No wonder elections are won or lost. And people like this vote unreal.

GOP What a Mess...all backwards...not credible, not convincing...

"NOW should be proud that Republicans are going to nominate Sarah Palin for Vice President this week. She is a very accomplished woman who proves on a daily basis that she can handle both her work load and her family life. But that is not good enough for them........"

But is Palin really handling both? Only a mother really understands what it takes to be there for her kids through all stages of their growth to adulthood and even thereafter. And is this even the issue? What about the philosophical premise of Pro-Choice, again, some people just don't get it...so walk the talk then...bring it out on the table and when it gets too close, wow. When confronted with the truth of how people are taking this, the Republicans do not like to see it or hear it. Look at this...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/26511793#26508701

Sure, it's okay if you are rich and can hire a nanny so that you can go out and be important and massage your insatiable ego in this competitive big shot world of the high office where ever so quickly if you weren't an insider, you will be on the inside doing as the inside requires you to do... Nope, the People are not buying this maverick and outsider/insider stuff at all.

Social definitions do rule many people's lives. You can choose to let yourself and your kids get preggies and make lots of little babies if you can afford it and Pro-choice respects your right to make that personal decision on how you handle yourself, your teen children and their decisions; but what so many Repugs just do not get is that the right to choose works both ways and that is initially why it is superior to activating freedom above and beyond social rules that create hypocracy in the first place. You see, things like class standing also come into the picture here.

While they go on about this hiccup, we are so far ahead taking care of the real issues. How can one follow a leader that wages aggressive wars that kill children so that you can have the money to pay the nannie but when some poor person says I cannot afford to feed this child or provide it with a life worth living which is a mother's first duty, you have no solution or care. So we have children born to suffer and die by age 3, what is so righteous before God about that? To torture and starve a child to death, to watch it suffer? Is that not hypocracy when looking at the ethical logic of this issue?

So we are shown that this is the way it goes in pro-life families, let the girl wed and live happily ever after and hope her marriage lasts. The decision is made and guess what! That choice is a choice and can be made because of the freedom of choice and that is what pro choice is all about!

On the other hand...
"Too bad it won't be a real white wedding", one can just hear what the high society gossips would say right in the front row of the church on Sunday, and then they would go right out and sin by Monday and the minister that is so adored by everyone gets in trouble for being a child molester or beating his wife. Yeah, sure, been there done that heard that and the tricks are not working so well anymore to fool the People. Hypocritical reasoning is blind, does not connect the dots and has no concience or awareness. It is egotistical and relies on un-natural man made social laws and definitions that are arbitrary. We do not all fit the same cookie cutter!

Republicans are looking strangely liberal these days, and yet they are still blind theoretically and don't seem to understand why they are suddenly doing the big "live and let live" number. Their economic policies have forced more and more families into welfare which is what their conservatives would label socialist.
It seems they do not see the results of their actions, they muddle this way and that, flip flopping through the contradictions.

We are shown an athletic gal with a bright eyed Britney Spears-like smile and brown hair working as a sportscaster in Alaska and are told how she gets a Bachelors in Journalism and has done this and that while juggling motherhood. Like so many other women, this is commendable, but it is not convincing as a career path for consideration of the office of Vice President.

Then we are told that in her role as governor she is under investigation for abuse of power in her state. Anyone would wonder then, if she has problems at state level, can someone like this lead the whole country ethically and fairly?

Also, the media spokespeople are not selling Palin very well to staunch Republicans who are shaking their heads at this crazy pick by John McCain and will not accept this slightly dysfunctional family in their strict standards to fill the reqirements to set an example in their perfect socialite world. To them this is an embarrassment.

There can be no doubt that we would hear a lot of hooplah by the Republican camp if it were, hypothetically, one of Obama's daughters which is one reason why it is off limits to use and abuse issues of the private domain as a spotlight for fingerpointing. But it is here and so let us face it and the issue on choices itself openly not target anyone directly with the old letter A thing.

It is also here that we remember the media rape of other families, like Hart, Kennedy, Clinton and others...ummmm...no one likes the thing, but really, the private domain of the these families and recently the Edwards family was tresspassed and that is a sad and sorry fact. It happens often these days. It has happened for years.

The difference in the old camp is that you disown it, hide it, never get caught and when you do it's a disaster. There are many families torn apart for years now over this problem of trying to live up to perfection and not, then being hypocritical. Many kids down through the years have been kicked out and suddenly were "on their own" having to cut their own path and raise their own families. The tragedy is the result of not being accepted, is that of being cut off, being estranged from one's own family, sometimes for a lifetime.

If you choose to not exercise any birth control or abstinence as a way of dealing with how or when you start a family or maintain your family; if you can afford it and are responsible, that is fine. But respect the other options as a private choice for others. Like freedom of religion, it is actually pro-choice that allows you to choose that option from many.

The basis of freedom and respect that allows for privacy in the decision making by individuals is why Obama understands and has the wisdom and grace to do the decent thing. After years of experience and education, he gets it.

Let's get back to focusing on the real issues that affect the well being of All of The People and not fixate on one "celebritized" family in this country. This show is turning into a typical soap opera of distraction. We need to keep our eye on the real issues like oil in Alaska and abroad, drilling, the war, alternative energy and the economy, just to mention a few.

One thing is for sure. We DEMS are definitely not being fooled or distracted by this "not very convincing presentation". It is obvious that we are way ahead of the shabby sales pitch in front of empty GOP convention seats from the informative rebuttals that are coming out here and elsewhere!

Obama/Biden 2008
Working in The People's interests on the People's issues.

Dan_A_Cactus* should run for dog catcher and find a wife and get of the websight and leave it to the adults

dan and sally Copy and paste gibberish, all we have is gibberish, post more gibberish!

you do quite abit of it your self

You all need to go to YouTube and find the piece that shows Ms. Palin speaking to the church youth group -- she describes the iraq war as a "task from God" (part of God's plan) -- REALLY -- she is Bush in a Skirt, and everyone who is sick and tired of Bush needs to know it. Look, See, tell everyone to see it, too!

If you enjoyed Dan Quayle, you're going to love Palin! Further evidence we're facing another Bush-style presidency. In order to leave a legacy, Sarah Palin, as Mayor, literally stole Alaskan land to build a sports arena. The judicial system ordered her,years later, to properly compensate the individuals for this illegally seized property. Unfortunately, by this time Palin was already out of office and left this financial burden to be dealt with to the residents of the town.

To avoid a conflict of interest, Todd Palin, her husband, resigned his position with BP Oil while Sarah Palin was campaigning for office. Shortly after the election, Todd returned to his previous position, something he promised not to do because of the sensitive business dealings the oil companies maintained with the state of Alaska. As the town mayor, the first order on her agenda was to meet with the town council about removing certain books from the public library which Palin found offensive to her religious ideals. The Head Librarian, opposing government censorship of any kind refused to comply with this order. The next logical step for Palin, was to remove and terminate this individual to advance her conservative religious views.
Sarah Palin, a strong advocate for Republican-style family values supported a pro-life, religious conservative to succeed her in office over her mother-in-law, Faye Palin who was registered as unaffiliated and promoted abortion rights. Favoring slashing taxes for the wealthiest in this great land of ours, Palin pursued raising sales taxes during her reign as mayor. Sales taxes are the most regressive of all, since they unfairly burdens the poorest in our society.
We as a nation are potentially facing another Reagan/ Bush style right-wing presidency. Sarah Palin brings similar credentials to the White House as the late president Reagan. Both candidates are former sports announcers and television personalities, a vital trait to lead this country.

In order to prevent the polar bear from becoming extinct it was recently added to the endangered species list by the federal government. Palin totally opposed this action since she believed strongly it will interfere with oil drilling rights in Alaska.

All of the above information is verifiable, factual and obtained from reliable sources.

Vote Democratic, Always!

If you enjoyed Dan Quayle, you're going to love Palin! Further evidence we're facing another Bush-style presidency. In order to leave a legacy, Sarah Palin, as Mayor, literally stole Alaskan land to build a sports arena. The judicial system ordered her,years later, to properly compensate the individuals for this illegally seized property. Unfortunately, by this time Palin was already out of office and left this financial burden to be dealt with to the residents of the town.

To avoid a conflict of interest, Todd Palin, her husband, resigned his position with BP Oil while Sarah Palin was campaigning for office. Shortly after the election, Todd returned to his previous position, something he promised not to do because of the sensitive business dealings the oil companies maintained with the state of Alaska. As the town mayor, the first order on her agenda was to meet with the town council about removing certain books from the public library which Palin found offensive to her religious ideals. The Head Librarian, opposing government censorship of any kind refused to comply with this order. The next logical step for Palin, was to remove and terminate this individual to advance her conservative religious views.
Sarah Palin, a strong advocate for Republican-style family values supported a pro-life, religious conservative to succeed her in office over her mother-in-law, Faye Palin who was registered as unaffiliated and promoted abortion rights. Favoring slashing taxes for the wealthiest in this great land of ours, Palin pursued raising sales taxes during her reign as mayor. Sales taxes are the most regressive of all, since they unfairly burdens the poorest in our society.
We as a nation are potentially facing another Reagan/ Bush style right-wing presidency. Sarah Palin brings similar credentials to the White House as the late president Reagan. Both candidates are former sports announcers and television personalities, a vital trait to lead this country.

In order to prevent the polar bear from becoming extinct it was recently added to the endangered species list by the federal government. Palin totally opposed this action since she believed strongly it will interfere with oil drilling rights in Alaska.

All of the above information is verifiable, factual and obtained from reliable sources.

Vote Democratic, Always!