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Hybrid , Re: drilling
The reason for the ANWR drilling is very simple. Alaska (as they like to say) is adjacent to Russia and Asia! It will be very easy to ship and export that oil by the oil companies to China, India, and other countries that will pay a lot more for it, than they can rape the US citizens for! They have NO intention of leaving that oil here for the US! that is the hypocrisy of that theory.
Good evening, all.
Where is Sarah Palin?
Why isn't she granting interviews? What is her position on issues other than abortion? Does she have any? Does she have any idea about the problems facing working people in the lower 48 and Hawaii?
How are we supposed to know? She won't face the cameras and answer questions. Why isn't she stepping up?
This will be the leader of the Western World and the Commander of our military if McCain should fail in health. Is she up to this task?
Anyone care to make a wager, on how many times, but i was a POW will come up, i already know that every speaker will probably mention it except for the Chimp.
Posted by PamB on September 2, 2008 at 06:59
Pam,
The Republicans are always looking out for China, aren't they?
They gave them our factories, our jobs, and all the oil that we can pump out of Alaska. Then the GOP borrowed all the money the Chinese reaped for this one-side deal to pay for the waste they created.
Is anyone going to watch the Repubican sideshow tonight? They're changing the program again. I think I'll wait and see what our Dems say on Larry King after it's over.
Putting country first? Mavericks always put themselves first. The slogan doesn't even make sense. How confused can you get?
bbl.
Posted by SandyH on September 2, 2008 at 07:03 PM
She had ONE photo released today, of her having "tea" with Laura Chimpette and Beelzebub McSame.
HEy! I hope that phone doesn't ring at 3AM.
Why is she wearing TEAL??? She should be wearing her "patriotic" colors.
Cnn was doing a survey on the street, asking people who was McNuts, running mate since Palin was a unknown. And belief it or not one older woman in probably her 50's said Obama.
No wonder elections are won or lost. And people like this vote unreal.
Renewing America's "Contract With the Middle Class"»
by: Leo Hindery Jr, The Los Angeles Times
In the last 25 years, what is good for America and what is good for much of corporate America have gotten way out of sync.
Not all that long ago, America's prominent business and government leaders widely believed that our nation's prosperity depended on a strong middle class growing from the bottom up. Workers were rewarded for their hard work with fair wages, benefits and advancement opportunities - and our economy and our national security were much stronger for it.
http://www.truthout.org/article/renewing-americas-contract-with-middle-class
The earmark queen (500,000 per resident) when she was mayor, is not giving interviews because she's in an undisclosed location getting lessons from Dick Cheney.
But she has fired up the kool-aid crowd. Don't know if I can stomach the rest of this week.
Someone needs to start challenging the repugs on the issues around her, the investigation (more than just the former brother-in-law)the husband, and the AIP and not back down. Eggleton in waiting.
The poor kid has been thrown under the bus. Great Obama response, where was George III on this? As long as the msm is dancing around the kid issue they are ignoring the important facts.
Yahhhhh, Kathy. Keep those registration drives going! Everybody take a lesson....
Big Indiana Voter Turnout Expected in November
http://www.truthout.org/article/big-indiana-voter-turnout-expected-november
even if this state does Not turn Blue, this is a Start! this is the beginning. This is how the roll gets started.......
McCain's campaign manager said today that the election will not be about issues, but personalities. What about intelligence? Does anyone honestly think that Gov. Palin has any? The world today needs smart, pragmatic leaders, not hockey moms and an anger-prone, reactionary old man.
McCain's campaign manager said today that the election will not be about issues, but personalities. What about intelligence? Does anyone honestly think that Gov. Palin has any? The world today needs smart, pragmatic leaders, not hockey moms and an anger-prone, reactionary old man.
chassie, when I tune into C-span in the morning, no matter what topic, those who call in on the Republican or McCain line, are so totally uninformed it is mind boggling. You cannot believe there are people out there, who drive cars, who are allowed to produce children, who vote, who are totally ignorant.
They should give tests before some one can vote.
We would no longer have a Republican party
the earmark queen (500,000 per resident) in her home town thanks to Stevens lobbist is in an undisclosed location getting lessons from Dick Cheney on getting rid of emails (requested for the ongoing investigation). He probably recommended her lawyer as well.
The republicans are deep into the spin cycle on this Palin issue. I think they are building that bridge to no-where after all.
Sandy - the republican convention is off limits in this house. I do not allow any lying in this dwelling. They don't have anything new to say anyway that we haven't heard for the last 8 years!
WOW! I just watched the "Opening Ceremonies" of the Pug Lie Fest with "Honor Guard", "Presenting of the Colors", and PRAYERS! PRAYERS! MORE PRAYERS!!!"...
...and the convention center was almost EMPTY. The Pugs are staying away in DROVES. Big Box Churches draw a bigger crowd every Sunday.
The place is an echo chamber.
Talk about "Not Ready For Prime Time", and I ain't even talking about Palin.
The Pugs are an abysmal Party with an abysmal record, holding a "No Show" convention and hoping that Fred Thompson and Holy Joe Liebermudd can "fire up" a non-existent crowd.
"Lethargic" doesn't even describe the atmosphere at this funeral.
I'd feel sorry for them, if I gave a shit about them.
Beyond Carbon: Scientists Worry About Nitrogen's Effects
Public discussion of complicated climate change is largely reduced to carbon: carbon emissions, carbon footprints, carbon trading. But other chemicals have large roles in the planet's health, and the one Dr. Giblin is looking for in Arctic mud, one that a growing number of other researchers are also concentrating on, is nitrogen.
In addition to having a role in climate change, nitrogen has a huge, probably more important biological impact through its presence in fertilizer. Peter Vitousek, a Stanford ecologist whose 1994 essay put nitrogen on the environmental map, co-authored a study this summer in the journal Nature that put greater attention on the nitrogen cycle and warned against ignoring it in favor of carbon benefits.
http://www.truthout.org/article/beyond-carbon-scientists-worry-about-nitrogens-effects
100% of Bush's supporters are idiots.
Not all idiots support Bush, but all Bush supporters are idiots. Where does Dufuss-Dan fit in? Don't know. Don't care.
Wow! This is a great article!
Renewing America's "Contract With the Middle Class"
Monday 01 September 2008
by: Leo Hindery Jr, The Los Angeles Times
In the last 25 years, what is good for America and what is good for much of corporate America have gotten way out of sync.
Not all that long ago, America's prominent business and government leaders widely believed that our nation's prosperity depended on a strong middle class growing from the bottom up. Workers were rewarded for their hard work with fair wages, benefits and advancement opportunities - and our economy and our national security were much stronger for it.
http://www.truthout.org/article/renewing-americas-contract-with-middle-class
and the convention center was almost EMPTY. The Pugs are staying away in DROVES. Big Box Churches draw a bigger crowd every Sunday.
it was empty yesterday too, Doo Bee
They were trying to give away seats. They had said that those delegates who decided to go home because of the storm, that they had gotten replacements for them, but if this is all that is there, I LMAO ! This is their big party? This is who will sit there and wave little signs for Liberman and Bush via satellite?
It just gets better and better........
Arab news editorial regarding the Iraqi oil contract with Chinese. But George III still doesn't get it. I guess the earmark queen really is his soul-mate, if you want to drill, drill, drill.
http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7§ion=0&article=113588&d=30&m=8&y=2008
Hi Chicago.
Pam: Sorry for double posting you. Your post had not come up before I posted the same article/link.
Some Barack Obama supporters in Elkhart have taken their enthusiasm to a whole other level - all the way to the roof.
Tuesday morning, volunteers helped paint the Democratic presidential candidate's logo on the roof of this barn on a family farm off County Road 17 in Elkhart.
They plan to spend a few more days painting before finishing what is basically a giant campaign sign that they hope will bring more attention to their candidate.
“It's something for us to do that doesn't involve phone calls or knocking on doors and we still can support the Democratic party and support Obama this way," said Sheryl McClure, one of the volunteers painting the roof.
The owners say Obama's camp contacted them with the idea. They hope to paint as many as six barns throughout the state.
...and the convention center was almost EMPTY. The Pugs are staying away in DROVES. Big Box Churches draw a bigger crowd every Sunday.
Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on September 2, 2008 at 07:46 PM
DPD,
Wow is right. The place is half empty. I think I will watch a baseball game instead. But I see the chimp is scheduled to lie at 9:45 (Eastern). I hope he gives McLame a great big slobbery kiss and neck-cruncher hug. The four people watching need to have that reinforced as much as possible. McLame, more of the same.
Posted by Kathy_from_Indiana on September 2, 2008 at 07:45 PM
Kathy remember the old saying keep your enemies, closer then your friends.
I think we need to pay attention, for defensive reasons.
PS i don't know whether i can stand it either, but i'm going to try my best. I got a 12 pack of budweiser, so maybe i'll get thur it. LOL
Well, I'm watching something much more intellegent - Americas Got Talent. After that, in honor of the Lying Convention, I'm cleaning my toilets....something that has much better appeal.
What a line-up of speakers at the Repug convention.
Chimp
Fred Thompson (the guy Nixon said was stupid?)
Joe Loserman
Can't wait to see the ratings for this one...
chassie - a 12 pack of Bud???
Didn't you know there is a boycott of that beer since they sold out? But I'll help you - just bring it over to my house and I'll dispose of it in a proper manner - we'll show those bastards!
Even the commentators and reporters have a different level of enthusiasm for this Convention compared to last week. You could FEEL how excited everyone was. And that Finale last week. Let's see Grampy top that one!
Can't wait til DeLay speaks - that may take more than a 12 pack.
OMG, now they are talking about being the party for women. I don't know if MN has enough shovels to remove the bullshit when they leave the state
OMG, it gets better and better !
WASILLA, Alaska - The boyfriend of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's unwed, pregnant daughter will join the family of the Republican vice presidential candidate at the GOP convention in St. Paul, Minn.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080902/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_palin_daughter
Posted by Chicago on September 2, 2008 at 07:56 PMM/i>
MSNBC just did a cut-away before a commercial break, and I could see the Pug "Floor Staff" had people moving to every other row, and emptying out the corners in order to fill the middle seats. How are they going to arrange all the State signs that are supposed to be prominently shown?
Ron Paul has a few thousand at the Target Center in MPLS, on a budget of about a few thousand bucks.
This is happy sad.
HAHAHAHAAAAA!
got to head out, Dems. Babysitting tonight, and the little devil wants to be held , so best go get him!
blog ya all tomorrow...........
Did the speaker (Jo Ann Davidson) on the Pug convention just call her "Sarah Palinty"? Wow. She should turn around and read the sign.
It's P-a-l-i-n. Palin.
I am flabergasted that the republican party doesn't have the dignity or respect of a sitting president of their own party, to invite the Honorable George Bush, to personally speak at their own convention. After all, he is a favorite of their base and he's raised millions of dollars for the McCain campaign. If Hurricane Gustav was any stronger I guess the president would be seen in a photo-op bailing water over a canal wall. Guess the presidential plane needed refueling and the republican party didn't have the money for gas.
Also too bad that Dick Cheney, who was also scheduled to speak, was sent out of the country, to Georgia of all places (at least the fighting has died down and all he can do is blow off his big chicken hawk mouth). Cheney's another favorite politician of the right wing, a fund raiser for Halliburton and their hundreds of subsidiaries, and deserves their respect as well.
So who will speak, why Joe Lieberman and Fred Thompson of all people. Joltin Joe will talk about what a "maverick" McCain is, in other words he doesn't need anyone's advice on anything and he will do to the country anything he damn well pleases, sort of Bush-lite.
Fred Thompson will probably be the last sleepy time speaker, should be there around 8PM, just in time for McCain's bedtime snack of milk and cookies.
(See repug bloggers, no Palin references, just a convention update)
Didn't you know there is a boycott of that beer since they sold out? But I'll help you - just bring it over to my house and I'll dispose of it in a proper manner - we'll show those bastards!
Posted by Kathy_from_Indiana on September 2, 2008 at 08:03 PM
No Kathy i didn't know that, i knew that bud sold out to a overseas company, but i didn't know we was boycotting it. Anyway its been around here for some time, just thought this was a good night to ice it down.
Nest time i'll buy some Ripple.
How many of the earmark quesns investigators will be there, what about her atty?
Question:Is there ANYTHING a democrat will not do or say about anyone(doesn't matter if true or not)just to put an inexperienced-american flag disrespector-unknown in office? However,if Obama is telling the truth about -children being offlimits-then it seems the democrats do not care what he wants,they just want the presidency-at any cost.well,i hope they do get it,because that will mean-no more wars(ever)-more jobs(right away)higher salaries-homes not being foreclosed-all credit card debts deleted(after all,Bush caused all these problems,and hes a republican)-oh,and lets not forget gas prices will go down-and we will have medical care "coming out the kazoo"-be so much of it-everyone will want to get sick,just to be able to use it.Now--i do not care who makes comments on this-just be sure i am wrong when you do.I would vote for Obama if i KNEW i could trust him-and,if he had more experience in Washington-or-anywhere--even Alaska.
OMG As questions have been raised over how thoroughly Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign vetted Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin for the V.P. slot, it seems the McCain campaign was unaware of a video -- available online -- in which Palin talks about God's role in U.S. military action overseas, according to a political operative familiar with the situation.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/02/1327574.aspx
We have two Constitutional Lawyers running against a former POW with PTSD and a beauty queen with a degree in journalism. How can there be any question of who is capable of leading this country out of the dark days ahead.
Let's not loose sight and get lost in old muddy river politics. Facts speak Fact. EnronMcCain/PrudoBayPalin Represent OIL & Energy CEO's, K st., and Off-Shore Special Interest and very little else. While the citizenry flips for their bill, boarding & the tab. As has been proven over the past 7 1/2 years of full republican control of D.C.. Barack & Joe on the other hand represent a real meat, potato & gravy promise of a new 21st century. One being of American technology's to come, such as electric and hydrogen type fueled vehicles SOONER than LATER. As well as Jobs in Wind and Solar technology programs SOONER than LATER. If McCain/Palin the OIL Addicts win this election, forget it.
The repug are still trying to use 9/11 to get elected.
Sad.
Posted by dixiehen on September 2, 2008 at 08:09 PM
Palin is billing the taxpayers of the State of Alaska for her Legal Fees, and she hired the best Lawyers that the RNC could find. First order of business for them was to gum up the works and ask for a shit load of extraneous bullshit (which will be billed to the State) and then say they need to "review" the documents for a few years.
Transparent Maverick Reformer VP pick clams up, lawyers up, and claims executive privilege
Posted by java on September 2, 2008 at 08:12 PM
Question.
How is it that your mouth is bigger than your asshole, considering how often you shove your head up it?
Eat shit.
sounds like the repugs are trying to recycle Obama's message, but it just falls flat. George III and the earmark queen are not Obama and Biden.
Y'all must be REALLY proud of your Presidential Ticket.
I can hear all the chest thumpin' going on all over the entire U,S, of A!!
HAHAHAA!!
You Pug parasites are pathetic.
WE should be nice to the Party of murders, thieves, child molesters, and War Criminals?
Eat shit, Pugs.
You should be used to it now, after 7 1/2 years.
Idiots and fools. All of you.
Thanks to rogue Democrats like Landrieu et al, there will be no court reviewing these arrests and the convictions that result from them. The only appeal possible is to the Attorney General's office for a "review." Thanks to Senators Schumer and Feistein, The AG is Mukasey, a Bush clone just like McCain. Fascism if alive and well, and HERE! Right in the good ol' USA. All the guys who died in WWII died in vain. They must be turning over in their graves.
Thanks to rogue Democrats like Landrieu et al, there will be no court reviewing these arrests and the convictions that result from them. The only appeal possible is to the Attorney General's office for a "review." Thanks to Senators Schumer and Feistein, The AG is Mukasey, a Bush clone just like McCain. Fascism if alive and well, and HERE! Right in the good ol' USA. All the guys who died in WWII died in vain. They must be turning over in their graves.
Thanks to rogue Democrats like Landrieu et al, there will be no court reviewing these arrests and the convictions that result from them. The only appeal possible is to the Attorney General's office for a "review." Thanks to Senators Schumer and Feistein, The AG is Mukasey, a Bush clone just like McCain. Fascism if alive and well, and HERE! Right in the good ol' USA. All the guys who died in WWII died in vain. They must be turning over in their graves.
I don't think a 12 pack is going to be enough, this is the most boring shit i have ever watched.
After thinking about Palin's daughter's pregnancy.
Didn't Bush's campaign, attack McNuts in 2000, about his adopted daughter? If so they just need to shut the F@@k up.
Thanks to rogue Democrats like Landrieu et al, there will be no court reviewing these arrests and the convictions that result from them. The only appeal possible is to the Attorney General's office for a "review." Thanks to Senators Schumer and Feistein, The AG is Mukasey, a Bush clone just like McCain. Fascism if alive and well, and HERE! Right in the good ol' USA. All the guys who died in WWII died in vain. They must be turning over in their graves.
Thanks to rogue Democrats like Landrieu et al, there will be no court reviewing these arrests and the convictions that result from them. The only appeal possible is to the Attorney General's office for a "review." Thanks to Senators Schumer and Feistein, The AG is Mukasey, a Bush clone just like McCain. Fascism if alive and well, and HERE! Right in the good ol' USA. All the guys who died in WWII died in vain. They must be turning over in their graves.
So it looks like the Palin's are going to have a shot-gun wedding. Good thing they got old man Cheney to help the young man make the right choice.
Seeing Lieberman as a Republican makes me realize how much a part Lieberman played in bringing Gore DOWN.
( http://www.securityconference.de/konferenzen/rede.php?menu_2002=&menu_2000=&menu_2001=&menu_konferenzen_archiv=&menu_2008=&menu_konferenzen=&sprache=de&id=76& ) 02.02.2002 Part of McCain Speech- Almost everyone familiar with Saddam's record of biological weapons development over the past two decades agrees that he surely possesses such weapons. He also possesses vast stocks of chemical weapons and is known to have aggressively pursued, with some success, the development of nuclear weapons. He is the only dictator on Earth who has actually used weapons of mass destruction against his own people and his neighbors. His regime has been implicated in the 1993 attacks on the World Trade Center. Terrorist training camps exist on Iraqi soil, and Iraqi officials are known to have had a number of contacts with Al Qaeda. These were probably not courtesy calls.
Americans have internalized the mantra that Afghanistan represents only the first front in our global war on terror. The next front is apparent, and we should not shirk from acknowledging it. A terrorist resides in Baghdad, with the resources of an entire state at his disposal, flush with cash from illicit oil revenues and proud of a decade-long record of defying the international community's demands that he come clean on his programs to develop weapons of mass destruction.
A day of reckoning is approaching. Not simply for Saddam Hussein, but for all members of the Atlantic community, whose governments face the choice of ending the threat we face every day from this rogue regime or carrying on as if such behavior, in the wake of September 11th, were somehow still tolerable. The Afghan campaign set a precedent, and provided a model: the success of air power, combined with Special Operations forces working together with indigenous opposition forces, in waging modern war.
The next phase of the war on terror can build on this model, but we also must learn from its limitations. More American boots on the ground may be required to prevent the escape of terrorists we target in the future, and we should all be mindful that such a commitment might entail higher casualties than we have suffered in Afghanistan. The Bush Administration understands that history will judge this campaign favorably not only for our commendable success in Afghanistan, but also for our firm purpose in fulfilling our larger mission of eliminating terror at its source. Our success in Afghanistan has put Al Qaeda on the run, and diminished their ability in the near term to organize and execute mass atrocities as they did in New York and at the Pentagon. But the campaign's organizing purpose is to put terrorists permanently out of business, and defeating or otherwise transforming the regimes that harbor them.
The combined examples of regime change in Afghanistan and Iraq would likely compel several other state sponsors of terror to change their ways or go out of business, accomplishing by example what we would otherwise have to pursue through force of arms. These nations -Syria and Sudan, for instance - have a choice, and it is in their interest to make the right one. As President Bush has said, Iran and North Korea remain question marks - rogue regimes where a few leaders hold their people hostage, and where aggressive development of weapons of mass destruction has gone unchecked. It can go unchecked no more. The consequences of inaction, of allowing our enemies to choose their moment, are far greater than the costs we will incur in taking action against this clear and present danger.
The most compelling defense of war is the moral claim that it allows the victors to define a stronger and more enduring basis for peace. Just as September 11th revolutionized our resolve to defeat our enemies, so has it brought into focus the opportunities we now have to secure and expand freedom ---------------------But Hey, What ever you say Sen. McCain ( http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/press.htm )
Oh, God!
Christine Todd Whitman is saying that since Little Miss Fill in the Blank is so green that there will be a "dynamic tension" going on between her and Grampy Grumpy.
THAT is their selling point? That she's so "green" that McSame has to stay on his game in order to train her, that way it'll keep his dementia in check?
What a way to inspire confidence!
And the theme for tonight's RNC is Shotgun weddings! F. Thompson got his teen girlfriend preggers and - you guessed it - had to get married. After she bore and raised his 4 children and put up with him for 24 years, he dumps her so that he can go out and play with starlets and singers less than half his age! Now he's married to a trophy wife young enough to be his daughter and has a second family.
Worse - he graduated from law school (here in Memphis I am ashamed to say) and panders to the right wingnuts by insinuating that federal judges should make rulings based on the word of religion rather than the letter of the law!
And people are supposed to pay attention and believe anything this dipstick says! No way! No How - NO ReTHUGs!
Posted by Chicago on September 2, 2008 at 08:49 PM
Chicago, i'd say its more like the Repulicians, are paying this young man to marry, with lots of tax payer dollars.
Will the VP debate be held in alaska? Bi-partisan investigation of the earmark queen to proceed and she's expected to testify.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/02/palin.investigation/index.html
I see the rest of the Chimp family is entering the room.
Look! Here comes the Great Silverback. And she brought her husband, too. I think the Pug natives call them "Babs" and "Poppy".
GAWD! These Pug pundits are really trying to stretch credulity with pretending that that are happy as can be about "Little Miss-Take".
In over 40 years of observing this, it seems like the religious families are always the ones whose daughters get pregnant out of wedlock - why IS that?
McCan't is punishing wolf blitzer because campbell asked what qualifications palin has. That was so sexist of her to ask what qualifications she has for Vice President of the United States. The world is watching and laughing it's ass off at the downfall of america.
02.02.2002 McCain Say's A terrorist resides in Baghdad and Sen. Byrd on Wednesday, February 12, 2003~ Who do you beleive now ?--- Published on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 -
Reckless Administration May Reap Disastrous Consequences
by US Senator Robert Byrd
Senate Floor Speech - Wednesday, February 12, 2003
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0212-07.htm
To contemplate war is to think about the most horrible of human experiences. On this February day, as this nation stands at the brink of battle, every American on some level must be contemplating the horrors of war.
Yet, this Chamber is, for the most part, silent -- ominously, dreadfully silent. There is no debate, no discussion, no attempt to lay out for the nation the pros and cons of this particular war. There is nothing.
We stand passively mute in the United States Senate, paralyzed by our own uncertainty, seemingly stunned by the sheer turmoil of events. Only on the editorial pages of our newspapers is there much substantive discussion of the prudence or imprudence of engaging in this particular war.
And this is no small conflagration we contemplate. This is no simple attempt to defang a villain. No. This coming battle, if it materializes, represents a turning point in U.S. foreign policy and possibly a turning point in the recent history of the world.
This nation is about to embark upon the first test of a revolutionary doctrine applied in an extraordinary way at an unfortunate time. The doctrine of preemption -- the idea that the United States or any other nation can legitimately attack a nation that is not imminently threatening but may be threatening in the future -- is a radical new twist on the traditional idea of self defense. It appears to be in contravention of international law and the UN Charter. And it is being tested at a time of world-wide terrorism, making many countries around the globe wonder if they will soon be on our -- or some other nation's -- hit list.
Good evening, all.
This is a good summary of most of the current Palin allegations and investigtions.
Campaign money hurts Palin's outsider image
By MATT APUZZO, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - GOP vice presidential pick Sarah Palin accepted at least $4,500 in campaign contributions in the same fundraising scheme at the center of a public corruption scandal that led to the indictment of Sen. Ted Stevens.
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080903/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_palin
It appears that Palin's image was tarnished before she even started calling herself a maverick. That state is run on corruption.
Why do we need a third Bush term?
Yeah, good old repug family values. George III marries his best friends wife and then dumps her when she is no longer a barbie doll and marries the current version of Barbie.
check Ross Perot on George III's family values.
OOOH, the "McSame is the same as Poppy Bush" movie is starting.
WTF?? They are the same age!
The wacko right was going to vote for McCain anyway, whether they were energized or not. Trust me I talked with many of them. No win there with palin. Next they will try to get the voters that felt like hillary was victumized by obama, when the MSM said some not so nice things, obama never did. They are loosing independants that thought McCain was a moderate and now just think he's nuts.
Is anyone downloading this stuff to a cd? Rove is scrubbing everything he can find. He's such a Nazi.
Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on September 2, 2008 at 08:55 PM
DPD,
So the Other Women of the GOP are calling Palin green...and that's a plus so the old coot can teach her everything he knows. I hope she's a quick study because the lesson might be over before she knows it.
It says 81 comments on the title page but 72 come up and when I refresh it's down to 54? Is anyone else having this problem?
Another wannabe (Posted by johnnyfaster on September 2, 2008 at 09:09 Pm) But, Hey! That's OK. I'm Original, Not a Phony!
EEEWWWwwww!
They just said that Chimpy will be giving a 'brief" address to the Country. I hope that doesn't mean he'll be sitting around in his shorts talking about how comfortable they are.
If by "brief" they mean "short", well, that joke writes itself.
Give the Chimp 30 seconds to apologize for the messes he's made and then submit his resignation effective NOW.
Now THAT would make it an historic convention.
BRING ON CHIMPY (for 30 seconds)!!
Evening all good Dems,
Chassie, funny you should mention mcgeezer's POW comments. It seems like every second word out of his mouth is a sentence starting with "When I was a POW".
There is a guy who claims to have been in the same cell with mcgeezer and he is going to speak at the convention. He supports mcgeezer all the way. I thought mcgeezer was in solitary the whole time he was in the Hanoi Hilton. If mcgeezer was in solitary as he claims, how could he have a cellmate.
Marymac_ Just hit preview on the comments section, don't hit f5, if you click on the preview button, another page will come up, scroll to the bottom of the new page, and presto all of the posts will be there.
Bushies are giving earmark queen foreign policy 101 - Oh great, now we have stepford VPs
http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/09/02/bushies-come-to-palin-s-rescue.aspx
bush aides are going to tutor palin...i guess they figure she knows too much and want her to be dumber.
Give the Chimp 30 seconds to apologize for the messes he's made and then submit his resignation effective NOW.
Only if he removes Cheney from his undisclosed location and they go together
Another wannabe (Posted by johnnyfaster on September 2, 2008 at 09:09 Pm) But, Hey! That's OK. I'm Original, Not a Phony!
Posted by johnyfaster on September 2, 2008 at 09:32 PM
Johnyfaster, the old dumb numbsy drone troll, can't get anyone to talk to him, hes lonely, so he's using your name, trying to get someone to talk to him.
Look at that standing ovation!
(Not a flag pin in the bunch! Commie America haters, all of them!)
You better go cactass, your buddy lieberman is coming. Mccane wanted lieberman but the preacher dobson said no. We kicked him out of our party a couple of years ago, he ran independant and republicans voted for our trash.
Maybe grampa has narcolepsy and fell asleep during his interview with that person he picked for vp.
How do you like that dig the bitch palin made about Clinton. When she admitted that she smoked pot she ocmmented that at least she didn't inhale like Clinton. She is despicable.
How can these republician drones, vote for McNuts, if they care so much about are Veterans.
When McNuts votes aganist all of the Veterans GI Bills
I can't believe that people are saying Palin has no experience. She has 2 years MORE experience than Obama, and Obama is running for PRESIDENT!
i was listening to savage nation tonight for the laughs while driving...weird mike is livid and wants palin to withdraw so mittens can be vp....it was wonderful stuff!
Sign the petition to the mayor of minneapolis telling him to knock off the Gestap tactics. These photographers were charged with a felony. Do you believe this shit? Talk about f**king Nazis.
I saw a worn out bumper sticker for bush 2004 today. I have seen none for mcgeezer and a bunch for Obama.
I saw the bush bumper sticker in the walmart parking lot. It was there when I arrived and when I left. Could it be one of their employees?
That poor NBC announcer who said Lieberman was a registered democrat, OMG, where has that idiot been?
Slight shift in schedule with last minute changes to a dismembered convention. Giuliani is out, Fred Thompson who was out is in, Dick Cheney who was in is away, George W Bush who was in is partially in, George daddy Bush who was out was only partially in.
They're shouting, "stop that blogging and vetting going on in the internet world, shame on them, some women are hopping mad." So are democrats, independents and fair minded republicans, people who want religion OUT of our lives and right wing facist propaganda to stop controlling our votes or how we're supposed to raise our children. If the repugs are so damned good at it, show it, they're really killing us out here.
Fascist right wingers have ruled long enough, it's time to restore sanity!
They are loosing independants that thought McCain was a moderate and now just think he's nuts.
Posted by newsjunkie on September 2, 2008 at 09:23 PM
He is nuts.
And he's losing Republicans, too. He cast his fate with the fundies and cast off the Romney business interests.
There are more of them than fundies.
He's nuts.
Laura Bush another real family values woman, didn't she crash her car into her first boyfriend's car and kill him?
CalDemo,
Where the hell is rasputin. Could he be planning a "shock and awe" finale for the repuke convention? He is probably in the Gulf at the helm of the flagship of the three battle groups and plans to nuke Iran from sea to shiny desert.
I wouldn't be surprised. dobson probably put his blessing on it saying "kill all those infidel muslims".
I hope someone is recording all of these good things that the Chimp is saying about McNuts.
And then show the videos, of the 2000 election, where he didn't have a good word to say about him.
Good idea chassie. I haven't the stomach to watch these slimeballs.
coulter was on glenn dreck saying she liked palin...looked like she had been given an "all you can smoke" gift card to a meth lab..dreck was drawing the snot out of her nose with a turkey baster, putting on some frozen waffles and claiming it tasted like maple syrup....
I haven't the stomach to watch these slimeballs.
Posted by Johne on September 2, 2008 at 10:01 PM
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Johne, I'm washing it down with lots of beers.
When Obama becomes president we should require all fundies to be forceably "relocated" to Israel or
maybe someone has a better idea. Maybe we could move them to bush's ranch or his property in Paraguay.
It's a good thing the RNC hired an "actor" to deliver those lies tonight. Anyone else would choke saying those words.
Little Miss Fill in the Blank is so green Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on September 2, 2008 at 08:55 PM\\
Hey Doo - I was using "What's her name" but I think I like yours better...
litle mis fill in the blank.. snicker
"It is easier for evildoers to lower others to their depths than it is for those who do good to elevate others to their heights. The most graphic illustration of this has been the abysmal legacy of George W. Bush and his cabal of criminals. In a few short years, his dictatorship has reduced the once hallowed principles of the United States to their “lowest common denominator.” And the rest of the world has followed."
More..........
palin slashed funds for teen moms...guess bristol will be using those ice cave skills...
Sandy,
Did the "actor" doze off during his prepared (by KKKarl) speech?
newsjunkie,
Great idea. Let them suffer with the high heating bills and the high price of oil.
Incidentally, gasoline went up 4 cents a gallon today probably because of the hurricane. They stick it to us every chance they get.
johnyfaster,
I wouldn't be surprised. I understand that they were paying people on the street to attend. Maybe this explains why cheney's Gestapo is taking away all the press credentials.
Liver Lips, just called himselve a Democrate, what a frigging pig.
(Posted by johnnyfaster on September 2, 2008 at 09:38 PM) - - - Not only a wannabe phony impostor, But a Moron as well!
Thanks Matt for doing the cleanup on aisle 5. voila! no more illiterate trolls.
Posted by Johne on September 2, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Johne,
I'm not watching. We've got the U.S. Open Tennis on instead. McCain could learn some pointers on anger management from John McEnroe?
When does the Dem rebuttal begin with Larry King? My husband isn't going to want to leave in the middle of the match.
H
NEWSFLASH!
phil gramm was just seen in a Minneapolis Airport restroom. I wonder who he is meeting there.
(NEWSFLASH!
phil gramm was just seen in a Minneapolis Airport restroom. I wonder who he is meeting there.
Posted by Johne on September 2, 2008 at 10:54 PM
) ----------- Maybe that's where kenny lay is hiding out?
Sandy,
Did mcgeezer actually blow up on public television?
I think this would be a good tactic during the debates. We should do everything we can to subtly piss him off and maybe he would actually strike or attempt to strike his opponent, That would be all she wrote.
Sorry Dan. I was watching your handlers at convention on t.v.. I hope they notice you have escaped, when they return home.
Here's a fact that Fred probably didn't include in the McCain bio...it happened after Vietnam.
McCain Voted Against All Katrina Aid in 2005September 1st, 2008
As the Democratic minority tried throughout the fall of 2005 to get help for people in Louisiana and Mississippi, the Republicans wanted no part of it and despite his post-Katrina pledge to “do all that is necessary to fund essential relief and recovery efforts and help those in need,” John McCain was right there to shoot down every initiative that would have helped, including the following Democratic-sponsored bills:
So when John McCain makes his grand exploitation trip to Louisiana later this week — and especially if he follows that stunt by making his convention speech from there — keep in mind that no matter what words of resolve or sympathy he throws at the latest hurricane victims, he voted down every chance he had to actually provide help and oversight the last time this happened.
The best McCain can hope voters assume is that he simply didn’t care. The worst — and probably closer to the truth — is that he was just doing what he was told.
www.teambio.org/2008/09/01/mccain-voted-against-all-katrina-aid-in-2005/
Palin Slashed Funding for Teen MomsAlaska Gov. Sarah Palin wrote in her line-item veto changes by hand in this copy of a 2008 spending bill obtained by The Washington Post.
By Paul Kane
ST. PAUL -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee who revealed Monday that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant, earlier this year used her line-item veto to slash funding for a state program benefiting teen mothers in need of a place to live.
After the legislature passed a spending bill in April, Palin went through the measure reducing and eliminating funds for programs she opposed. Inking her initials on the legislation -- "SP" -- Palin reduced funding for Covenant House Alaska by more than 20 percent, cutting funds from $5 million to $3.9 million. Covenant House is a mix of programs and shelters for troubled youths, including Passage House, which is a transitional home for teenage mothers.
According to Passage House's web site, its purpose is to provide "young mothers a place to live with their babies for up to eighteen months while they gain the necessary skills and resources to change their lives" and help teen moms "become productive, successful, independent adults who create and provide a stable environment for themselves and their families." ...
voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/02/palin_slashed_funding_to_help.html?hpid=artslot
Candy Crowley said that Lieberman endorsed Sarah Palin tonight?
He doesn't even know her. But he must know by know that she opposes all the social issues that he has always supported. Has he changed his mind on those, too?
That's the end of any credibility he ever had.
CNN is reporting that more than a number of Republicans (including Lieberman) have conceded tonight that Obama may someday be ready to be President?
How about January?
Really. That is a huge concession.
Has the Palin screw up make them change strategy again? Don't they realize that they are conceding that Palin might not be ready either?
These people are McNuts. They can't keep their message straight.
Sen. Joe Lieberman spoke this evening at the convention.
Biden is on record, twice in 07 saying he would be honored to run against or WITH McCain.
Comments from the group?
How much did Covenet request and how much was needed?
Well, it's pretty obvious that the number of teenagers who will be needing those services is rising.
We all know one kid who would probably appreciate getting some help in figuring out how he's going to finish high school while raising a family.
Palin might have to reconsider and put that earmark back in her budget...along with the others she must have forgotten about before making that speech last Friday.
The only issue the Republicans were facing tonight was Lieberman and Palin.
Is that good judgment?
palin bounce...hahahahaha
National Gallup Tracking Obama 50, McCain 42 Obama +8
National Rasmussen Tracking Obama 51, McCain 45 Obama +6
National USA Today/Gallup* Obama 50, McCain 43 Obama +7
National Hotline/FD Obama 48, McCain 39 Obama +9
National CBS News Obama 48, McCain 40 Obama +8
trolls are in for a long hard slog to defeat.
see you in the morning.
So. McCain is angry at NBC and CNN right now? No Republican trusts CBS. And ABC has journalists who use too many big words.
That means McCain is only going to communicate to undecided voters on Faux News? If you are watching Faux News, you've already made up your mind.
Hasn't McCain by losing his temper eliminated the very media sources he needs to reach undecided voters?
So they are going to throw the kids out in the snow and let them put the baby in a manger?
I'm calling it a night to watch the Dem rebuttal.
Good night, all.
One for the road:
I just saw a clip on Larry King's Show.
Lieberman finished his speech saying he wants to talk directly to his fellow Democratic Independents.
He's the only Democratic Independent in America. So he was speaking to himself? Doesn't surprise me.
When in Rome do as the Romans do.
Bye.
notice that obama is now getting over 50% in some polls. that is good news indeedydo....
Posted by Johne on September 2, 2008 at 11:00 PM I think this would be a good tactic during the debates. We should do everything we can to subtly piss him off and maybe he would actually strike or attempt to strike his opponent, That would be all she wrote.
That's what Sally does.
LeeAnn, When he said he would be honored to run against McCain he meant as the dem. vp nominee. When he said he would run with John McCain he meant a jog around the capital. Duh. Do you think he meant run with McCAin as McCain's VP, your dreaming.
hi dors. gotta get some sleep but here is the crux of the palin matter...mccain was too stupid to realize he would undercut his whole "obama is inexperienced argument" and she was too stupid ( or too devious ) to mention her family stuff until the very last minute...and then we have the mccain staff who wanted to use the fbi to run checks on political candidates:
WaPo:
"...Last weekend, two campaign officials told The Washington Post that the background investigation of the finalists included an FBI check of any possible ongoing criminal investigations. That information was incorrect. A knowledgeable official said Tuesday that the vetting team had hoped to run such a check but that FBI officials declined to do so because that type of inquiry is reserved for people nominated for senior administration jobs. The official also said the FBI was uncomfortable providing the information to a political campaign, rather than to government officials.
One U.S. law enforcement official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue, said the FBI does not conduct any kind of background checks or criminal history searches on behalf of political candidates or parties..."
and i must add that the cops in the twin cities seem to be way out of control...
i left this out from my last post:
WaPo
"ST. PAUL, Minn., Sept. 2 -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin was not subjected to a lengthy in-person background interview with the head of Sen. John McCain's vice presidential vetting team until last Wednesday in Arizona, the day before McCain asked her to be his running mate, and she did not disclose the fact that her 17-year-old daughter was pregnant until that meeting, two knowledgeable McCain officials acknowledged Tuesday..."
Posted by gregg on September 3, 2008 at 12:38 AM hi dors. gotta get some sleep but here is the crux of the palin matter...mccain was too stupid to realize he would undercut his whole "obama is inexperienced argument" and she was too stupid ( or too devious ) to mention her family stuff until the very last minute...and then we have the mccain staff who wanted to use the fbi to run checks on political candidates:
No, McCain was spun by the media who manufactured a narrative that there were millions of disgrungtled Hillary supporters and he chose to give them Sarah Palin and expose her family to public scrutinty and she agreed because she enjoys pumping oil.
and i must add that the cops in the twin cities seem to be way out of control...
I disagree on that - the people arrested (most of them) have disrupted MY events - they want a picture - of police in the news paper - and they got that (though not as many pictures as they would they would like)
Sally would be right at home with them.
I watched most of the RNC tonight and I found it a little offensive that they would exploit the story of a young man who was killed in a war they started based on their lies! Actually I found it very offensive!
Chassie, are you still here? You posted earlier about Laura Bush hitting a bf with a car? How did I miss this? Please tell me more or where to find more?
Actually I found it very offensive!
Posted by sodulguy on September 3, 2008 at 12:52 AM
There is little about the majority of reTHUGlicans that I do not find offensive - very offensive. But to exploit the death that they caused with lies and deceit, that's beyond sickening!
Here you go MaryMac
Not everybody knows Laura Bush (we call her "Pickles") killed her boyfriend/fiance in 1963.
We could let this go, but they want to talk about Ted Kennedy's driving record.
Every time you hear some ditto-monkey say the word, "Chappaquiddick," between now and the convention,
send them this link - and ask them what heroic action Pickles took to try to save her boyfriend.
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Texas Tragedy Attribution
IT HAPPENED in the dark, after a thunderstorm, more than 36 years ago and she has never spoken about it.
But according to her friends it remains the key event which has shaped the character of Texas First Lady Laura Bush.
When she was 17 years old, the future wife of Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush, then known as
Laura Welch, made a mistake that killed her boyfriend.
On Nov. 5, 1963, at 8 p.m., Laura was driving east on Farm Road 868 in her hometown of Midland en route
to a party. At a dangerous intersection, she allegedly failed to see Mike Douglas, also 17, heading south on State Road 369.
Laura, traveling with her best friend Judy Dykes and allegedly chatting about clothes, collided with Douglas' Jeep,
which was doorless. He was thrown from the vehicle and broke his neck, dying instantly.
"She didn't see him, he didn't see her," says Dan Harris, who also was cruising Midland that night, with
Laura's close friend Beverly Girdley.
"It was a terrible accident."
The Midland City authorities have declined to release the full accident report. They have referred Freedom of Information
requests for release of the document to the attorney general of Texas, who has until May 15 to decide if he will make the report public.
SOURCES in Midland's City Hall say they have heard Texas Gov. George W. Bush will use his influence to make sure the report is never released.
"People here don't want that wound reopened," says Sandra Wegner, the Midland City chief librarian. "It was a nightmare for the whole town."
An abbreviated version of the report concluded neither Douglas nor Laura could be blamed for the accident.
But friends say she has never fully recovered from the tragedy.
"I don't think it has ever been far from her mind," says Barba Bellenger, who worked with Laura on the Richard E. Lee
High School Yearbook in 1963.
"Laura was one of the most popular girls at Lee High. Mike was one of the most popular boys. There were people who
thought they would get married."
Jenna Welch is Laura Bush's mother and still lives in the same house on Humble Avenue where her daughter was raised.
She recalls the tragedy like it was yesterday.
"It hurt all of us very deeply," she says remembering her anxieties when she heard her daughter was in the hospital with
injuries from the wreck.
"Laura is an only child. It was dreadful to think she might have been killed."
MIDLAND is a small town with conservative values; a place where everybody's business is an open book. The aftermath
of the tragic accident hung over the town for weeks.
"The students were devastated," says Annalon Glibreath, an adviser at the school from 1962 until 1968. "Like all young kids
they thought they were immortal. Laura spoke like she thought she was invulnerable. The accident broke her heart and made
her realize life is full of as much tragedy as laughter."
Mike Douglas had moved to Midland in 1950, from San Benito. He entered Lee High School in the same class as Laura and
quickly became a favorite with all the girls.
"He was handsome and funny," recalls Dwayne Casbeer, a pallbearer at Douglas' funeral. "He had a quality that drew people in."
Douglas, like Laura Bush, was an only child. His parents lived just to the north of Midland and were involved with ranching and oil.
"They did a great job raising Mike," says Dan Harris. "He was a wonderful young man. Mike could have gone on to do anything he wanted."
At Lee High, Mike Douglas excelled at sports, winning places on a strong track team three years running and playing football.
He also helped organize the Powder Puff Cheerleaders.
ONE of the traditions of Texas football is an annual "powder puff" game where roles are reversed, the girls play and the boys cheer.
It was how Douglas met Laura.
"Laura's friend Judy Dykes was on the 1963 Powder Puff team and Mike was a cheerleader," says one of Douglas' best friends.
"Mike liked Judy but she was dating and introduced him to Laura instead."
Laura was a very active member of school in 1963. Her yearbook reveals she was a member of the Junior Council, the 100 Club,
the Student Council and the Rebelee yearbook staff.
Laura's high school friends say she was not involved with sports but had made a habit of dating the most handsome guys from
the football and track teams.
"She was a very pretty girl and as smart as a tack," says Dan Harris, who believes most boys had a crush on the future
Mrs. George W. Bush. "She dated a lot of guys but she was never seriously involved with anyone."
In fact, Laura, like all her girlfriends, was playing the field, looking for suitable marriage material. This, after all, was a
different era. Young people cruised Main Street not the Internet and, especially in West Texas, women dated with little
thought it might lead to sex or the altar. In 1963, romantic life moved at a slower pace and it was at that tempo that Laura
conducted her relationship with Mike Douglas.
"She and Mike went out a few times," recalls Harris. "They went to the Agnes Diner for sodas."
HARRIS and other Lee High students from 1963 recall everybody thought Douglas and Welch had the potential to be a
perfect couple and talked of them being nominated as Homecoming King and Queen.
"Anybody would have been lucky to get Laura," says a girlfriend who still lives in Midland. "She was very mature for her age."
"I think that appealed to all her boyfriends," says Dan Harris. "Laura never yielded to pressure, she lived her own life her own way."
By the fateful night of the accident, Laura and Mike Douglas had not been together for several months.
Harris remembers this made the crash all the more heart wrenching.
"I was out cruising with Beverly Grindley," he says. "We heard about the accident on the radio and immediately contacted
our other friends, all of whom knew both Mike and Laura."
Laura and her friend Judy Dykes were lucky, they only suffered minor injuries. Both were admitted to the hospital,
but released two days later.
"Laura didn't know who she had killed at first," says Dwayne Casbeer. "Nobody could bring themselves to tell her it was Mike."
By all accounts, the news hit Laura hard.
"It was pitiful," says Harris. "It took the heart and life out of her. She kind of disappeared for a few weeks."
Jenna Welch said her daughter needed careful counseling after the accident which cast her into a deep depression that
was noticed by everybody.
"The hurt was all over her face," says a friend who often called at the Welch household in the days after Douglas' death.
"It made Laura realize every act has consequences that cannot be escaped."
THE funeral for Douglas was held the following Saturday. It is believed neither Laura nor her parents attended,
although they sent flowers.
Laura also helped write a poem for Douglas that appears in the 1964 yearbook.
"I can still see those eyes -- full of delight," it begins before recalling his confident walk and sense of fun.
In the third verse it says, "His imprint lingers in the halls, Where he walked only a while ago."
"The poem made everybody cry," says a Lee High School counselor who had just begun her career in 1963.
"After the accident, Laura became extremely subdued and you can feel that in the memorial poem."
"People were worried about her," recalls a friend who edited the 1964 yearbook with Laura.
"She withdrew from a lot of activities. She felt responsible and she realized it could have been her that died. Some people
complained she could have done more to comfort Mike's parents but she didn't feel it was her place to intrude on their grief."
Dan Harris said Douglas' parents were knocked flat.
"Their house became a place of sadness and tears," he says. "They never recovered. He had filled their house with so much
energy which was suddenly snuffed out."
THE Douglases erected a memorial to their son at Lee High. Within two years they had moved away. Laura went on to SMU
and to the University of Texas at Austin where, in 1972, she earned a master's degree in library science.
She then went to Houston where she worked as a librarian, living in the same apartment complex as George W. Bush,
although neither of them was aware of each other.
It was not until 1977, when she was back living in Austin as the librarian at the Dawson Elementary school, that she was
formally introduced to her future husband.
By then she was 30 and friends say she had grown lonely and saddened that she had not yet found a man with whom to
have the children she craved.
"I think the accident was one of the reasons she stayed single so long," says Barba Bellenger. "I believe it did kind of haunt her."
And, friends say, it has made her very protective of her twin girls, Barbara and Jenna.
"She has seen what it was like for parents to lose a young child," says Harris, who lost his daughter 11 years ago.
"That changes somebody forever."
And, like many of her friends, Harris believes Laura Bush only survived the harrowing incident because she had such a
strong supportive family.
"They raised her to survive adversity," says her school counselor. "I think it is one reason she could make a great first lady."
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Laura Bush: 1963, ran stop sign & killed boyfriend
Miscellaneous News Keywords: STRANGE
Source: AP
Published: 5/3/00 Author: JIM VERTUNO
Posted on 05/03/2000 16:12:46 PDT by Jethro Tull
Wednesday May 3 6:13 PM ET Report: Laura Bush in 1963 Car Wreck
Report: Laura Bush in 1963 Car Wreck
By JIM VERTUNO, Associated Press Writer
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - At 17, Laura Bush ran a stop sign and crashed into another car, killing her boyfriend
who was driving it, according to an accident report released to The Associated Press on Wednesday.
Mrs. Bush is the wife of Republican presidential nominee-to-be George W. Bush (news - web sites), the Texas governor.
``It was a very tragic accident that deeply affected the families and was very painful for all involved, including
the community at large,'' said her spokesman, Andrew Malcolm. ``To this day, Mrs. Bush remains unable to talk about it.''
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Mrs. Bush did say in March, when asked at a campaign stop about the crash, ``I know this as an adult,
and even more as a parent, it was crushing ... for the family involved and for me as well.''
According to the two-page accident report released Wednesday by the city of Midland, Laura Welch was
driving her Chevrolet sedan on a clear night shortly after 8 p.m. on Nov. 6, 1963, when she drove into an
intersection and struck a Corvair sedan driven by 17-year-old Michael Douglas.
Although previous news accounts have reported Douglas was thrown from the car and broke his neck,
those details were n