Obama/Biden 08

Cafferty To Blitzer: Don't Make Excuses For Her (Palin) (includes video)

Cafferty tells it like it is.

Senator McCain's tellings Dwight's D-Day eve story again.

Socre one for Obama on ear marks.

Obama needs to explain what his earmarks were for. McCain thinks public education is an earmark.

Barack wasn't very clear on the whole tax thing. But he did make a good hit on the bill currently on the table that john won't support because there is no tax cut to big oil.

Posted by newsjunkie on September 26, 2008 at 09:24 PM Obama needs to explain what his earmarks were for. McCain thinks public education is an earmark.

He did fine in my opinion. McCain is using old GOP arguments that have fossilied "liberal voting record", blah, blah - that only excite the GOP base - independents have moved out from under that.

Posted by newsjunkie on September 26, 2008 at 09:27 PM Barack wasn't very clear on the whole tax thing. But he did make a good hit on the bill currently on the table that john won't support because there is no tax cut to big oil.

He should have mentioned that 95% percent of people in the country get a tax cut under his plan - I suspect he'll get to that.

Cut spending, cut spending, how cutting tax cuts for big oil and spending the money on AMERICA.

Cost plus, how about no-bid, I never heard mccain say a word about haliburtons no-bid contracts.

Use a hatchet when you could use a scapel. NICE!

Can you imagine what they would call Obama if he called himself a maverick or something to that effect. "It is well known that I am a maverick" "It is well known that I am a rising star" "It is well known that I was the president of the harvard review" How does McSame get away with bragging on himself all of the time.

McCain's coming off as just reciting talking points (old ones at that) - Obama sounds like he knows what he's talking about.

Obama's handling Pakistan well.

Oh barack just got him good. Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran. McCain resorting to listing his creds of 20 years ago. Oh god, sad story, get sympathy, blah, blah, blah, what's the point johnnie.

No U.S. soldier ever dies in vain.

Yep - without pre-conditions, John - Obama will educate you now.

Hey catass our guy is kicking your guys ass.

McCain's trouble is that he is tied into old rhetoric and that he's not speaking plainly.

I've got a bracelet too, and it was given to me by the mother of a soldier who asked me to make sure no other mother goes thurough what she did.

I wish Obama would have cleared up the, I'm going to ask Iran to basically be nice to Isreal. We have tools sir, and I plan to use them without loopholes for Haliburton to do business with Iran. That would have been good. It's obvious that Obama understands the world very well, and I think that america didn't know that until now.

Where's McCain's flag pin?

McCain keeps the personal attacks, O doesn't understand the difference between strategy and tactics, Obama doesn't understand Russia or Putin. Obama needs to attack this hard.

Very good, foresight, yes foresight is good, anticipate what your opponent is going to do. Don't just be reactive, plan ahead.

McCain said to look at the record, he voted against solar, bio, wind over 23 times

ummm - how many times has John lied tonight? McCain is just awful...

A broader strategic vision, oh yeah that is good.

Obama doesn't have the knowledge or experience, personal attack after personal attack, oh we are back in the surge.

I think the people have just learned that Obama knows a whole lot about the world, more than you Mc don't know a Shea from a suni and kurd from a turd.

McCain has lobbed one attack after another - Obama not so much. Next debate - Obama has to come out swinging - he didn't do that tonight. My take: McCain wasn't as weak as I thought he'd be. Obama has got to do better.....

Here comes the pow sympathy seeker, I thought McCain didn't want to help find the POW's,

This was supposed to be McCain's strong point (foreign policy) and McCain played to a tie at best.

OMG, did you ever see a more petulent, cranky old man? John McCain did not look like a President at all. He looked mad and mean!

OBAMA WON THIS ONE!!!

I missed all of McCain's comments on N Korea, I was laughing too hard when he said S. Koreans were 3" taller than N. Koreans. What the hell is that about?

Obama showed that he can hold his own on McCain's turg

Why didn't we hit him on not parachuting into DC to vote for veterans bill?

Barack was better than he has ever been in a debate. He must have been practicing getting rid of the ah's. No ah's and um's, he just gets better and better every day.

McCain did well, but the question of whether Obama understands foriegn affairs is over. That was the best thing that came out of it for Obama. It is clear, Obama is well versed in what is going on in the world.

Don't get me wrong but Obama was too soft - he kept saying that agreed with McCain.

Why did McCain lie so much tonight? Well he get away with it?

I will say at one point, John looked really pissed - I thought he was going to blow..maybe Obama should put more pressure on the ol coot.

This was supposed to be McCain's strong point (foreign policy) and McCain played to a tie at best.

Posted by dorsano on September 26, 2008 at

Yep, that is huge for obama. He wins on economics, and Palin is a negative while joe is a huge positive.

Well, now I know why my son's are over 6' tall, it's because they live in a democracy rather than a communist country. i.e. S. Korean's are 3" taller than N. Koreans. Can someone explain this to me?

I'm a mother and have a cousin who was killed in Iraq and I can assure you I would not ask for victory in an occupation, but rather that another mother not be put through this agony.

Well, now I know why my son's are over 6' tall, it's because they live in a democracy rather than a communist country. i.e. S. Korean's are 3" taller than N. Koreans. Can someone explain this to me?
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dixiehen on September 26, 2008 at 11:12 PM

It is a fact that comes from 50+ years of malnourishment under the former glorious leader and the present glorious leader in N Korea.

Well McCain certainly won that round.

I thibnk for the next one they should pin Hussein bin Obama's ears back. Maybe some double sticky tape would work.

Well McCain certainly won that round.

I think for the next one they should pin Hussein bin Obama's ears back. Maybe some double sticky tape would work.

I loved it when barack say's that the republicans call him the most liberal, just because he votes against bush.

hi sally. looks like a bad week got worse for your team. and now with the right wing pundits calling for the real miss congeniality's head what are we to do tuesday??

According to CBS News / Knowledge Networks' poll of undecided voters:

40% of uncommitted voters who watched the debate tonight thought Barack Obama was the winner. 22% thought John McCain won. 38% saw it as a draw.

68% of these voters think Obama would make the right decision
about the economy. 41% think McCain would.

49% of these voters think Obama would make the right decisions about Iraq. 55% think McCain would.

Overall, I thought Sen. Obama did very well. He clearly won the debate on the economy, which was as expected; but, he held his own on both foreign policy and on defense.
Next debate, I hope that he will be more agressive mentioning things like McCain's opposition to the Webb Bill to enhance veterans benefits and bring up McCain's elitest up-bringing as the son/grandson of Admirals (basically Military Royalty) and his marriage to a multi-millionaire.
But overall, Sen. Obama did quite well.

I think for the next one they should pin Hussein bin Obama's ears back. Maybe some double sticky tape would work.

Posted by Sally-* on September 26, 2008 at 11:57 PM

I beg to differ, Obama is smarter than McCain on foriegn affairs and represents the middle class on domestic issues. Too bad Rove, Dobson, and Perkins hijacked your candidate. McCain should not have become a shell to them, it ruined anything decent he may have had.Not one way did he beat Obama. Obama did what he set out to do, and that is to let the American People know, he is ready and capable to be a great president. KaChing!

Hi, everyone.

My take? It was one of the most boring debates in history. I doubt most people watched past the first half hour.

McCain was too condescending and Obama too agreeable. Nobody made a mistake and nobody scored a point. Biden won by default and he wasn't even there.

Obama more than demonstrated that he had ALL the facts and then some. McCain proved that he has enough experience and arrogance to repeat every mistake made since Hoover.

I think the real problem was with Jim Lehrer who kept asking the same question in different ways. All he cared about was the Axis of Evil. Not one question about China and trade policy. Nothing about global warming. Has inflation and the recession ceased to exist now that Bush is trying to bail out millionaires?

I doubt either candidate changed any minds or impressed them either. The handlers have taken all the fun and spontaneity out of these events. It’s obvious that both candidates practiced real hard and it showed.

You got the impression that in his mind nobody in the world lives up to John McCain's high standards except himself.

mcbush ran his same old cranky cheapskate shtick and it will add no votes to what he already had...on the other hand folks who are not political junkies got to see a very measured and intelligent guy coming off very presidential. i imagine he picked up a lot of independents tonight.

and for sally who so loves her sister in arms, the sweet dear chicken necked sarah i this,

NYTimes:

Kathleen Parker, a writer for TownHall.com, reversed her initial support for the Republican vice-presidential nominee and said Ms. Palin should drop out. Put the country first, she basically advised, by saying you need to go take care of your family first.

In a devastating assessment, Ms. Parker writes:

Palin didn’t make a mess cracking the glass ceiling. She simply glided through it.

It was fun while it lasted.

Palin’s recent interviews with Charles Gibson, Sean Hannity, and now Katie Couric have all revealed an attractive, earnest, confident candidate. Who Is Clearly Out Of Her League.

No one hates saying that more than I do. Like so many women, I’ve been pulling for Palin, wishing her the best, hoping she will perform brilliantly. I’ve also noticed that I watch her interviews with the held breath of an anxious parent, my finger poised over the mute button in case it gets too painful. Unfortunately, it often does. My cringe reflex is exhausted.

And then Ms. Parker winds it up, turning the backlash against women who criticize women on its head:

If Palin were a man, we’d all be guffawing, just as we do every time Joe Biden tickles the back of his throat with his toes. But because she’s a woman — and the first ever on a Republican presidential ticket — we are reluctant to say what is painfully true.

What to do?

McCain can’t repudiate his choice for running mate. He not only risks the wrath of the G.O.P.’s unforgiving base, but he invites others to second-guess his executive decision-making ability. Barack Obama faces the same problem with Biden.

Only Palin can save McCain, her party, and the country she loves. She can bow out for personal reasons, perhaps because she wants to spend more time with her newborn. No one would criticize a mother who puts her family first.

Do it for your country.

obama did do very well...held his own. I was assuming mccain would have the edge.

obama needs to respond to mccain's jabs more to mccain and less to the moderator. the moderator is the moderator, not the other candidate.

"john, you're slick, but we need a leader. we've had a slick for 8 years."

McCain lost the debate.

There were so many inconsistencies and flip flops that it's only a matter of time that they become common knowledge.

I read The Huffington Post and they have a great post that compares all the times that McCain contradicts himself.

In this day and age of YouTube and instant replay, McCain's gaffes will be out there for everyone to see.

Obama didn't overwhelming win the debate but there is no doubt he is the better candidate for the job.

Obama was very careful in the way he answered and responded in the debate. That's good. He didn't try to offer quick solutions to complex problems and didn't try to dazzle America with stylistic rhetoric. It wasn't a debate that was amazingly entertaining but rather it was a debate that was clear and to the point.

McCain is stuck in a Republican mentality that doesn't respect substance.

His claims to be a Maverick and Reformer are starting to become shallow and pointless.

Obama was correct in not spending too much time attacking McCain. Obama did a solid job of explaining how difficult it is to predict future events and future decisions. Anyone who does, and that includes McCain, is selling snake oil and can't be counted on to keep his promises.

The next two debates will end up an after thought.

The only Americans who vote for McCain in this stage in the game are either very, very rich or very, very stupid.

The rich have a lot to lose in taxes, that's the only reason Donald Trump endorses McCain.

Republicans who still support McCain, after tonight, probably voted for Bob Dole when Bill Clinton was re-elected by a landslide.

The tide has finally turned. And Obama is on his way to becoming the 44th President of the United States.

The tide has finally turned. And Obama is on his way to becoming the 44th President of the United States.

Posted by gregg on September 27, 2008 at 12:23 AM

So McCain is supposed to drop the lovely and talented Sarah who has united the base cause some broad that nobody ever heard of before says so.

Biden will be dropped before the lovely and talented Sarah.

Job 5:23
For you will have a covenant with the stones of the field.
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Esmeralda on September 26, 2008 at 07:41 PM

lay with jacquie, rise with fleas.

Only Palin can save McCain, her party, and the country she loves. She can bow out for personal reasons, perhaps because she wants to spend more time with her newborn. No one would criticize a mother who puts her family first.

Do it for your country.
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gregg on September 27, 2008 at 12:23 AM

For all of our liberal/illiterate(dUHstY) trolls out there, greggy is wanting the Sweet and Talented Sarah to drop out so Obama might have a better chance at MAYBE winning the election.

Call of the Wild
September 24, 2008
Updated: September 26, 2008
A wildlife group's ad attacks Palin for supporting the shooting of wolves from airplanes. She does, but there's more to it than that.
Summary
A new ad from Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund shows the pursuit and shooting of a wolf from a small plane and tells viewers that Sarah Palin "actively promotes" such killings. It's true that she does, and in 2007 she offered $150 payments for anyone who brought the left forepaw of a wolf to state officials. The ad calls the practice "brutal and unethical" but doesn't tell the whole story.

* Alaskan officials call it "predator control," not aerial hunting, and use it to keep the populations of moose and caribou high for subsistence hunters.

* The program is limited to just 9 percent of the state's land mass, or five of 26 Department of Fish and Game districts.

* Far from being endangered, as they are in the Lower 48 states, gray wolves number between 7,000 and 11,000 in Alaska.
That's the situation in Alaska. If you're just some guy or gal with a small plane, a rifle, a hunting license and a six-pack, you can't take off and go hunting for wolves anywhere you happen to be. Predator control programs have been authorized by the state in five of its 26 game management units, which account for 9.4 percent of the state's land mass. Pilot-and-gunner teams have to apply for permits, and they must provide their own planes.

The program exists in large part because the state's intensive game management law puts a premium on efforts to "restore the abundance or productivity of identified big game prey populations as necessary to achieve human consumptive use goals." The "big game prey" in question are the approximately 1 million caribou and 175,000 to 200,000 moose in the state. Subsistence hunters are a major priority in wildlife management in Alaska, although a subsistence hunter is hard to define. Clarke offered some statistics: About 20 percent of Alaska's population, or roughly 135,000 people, is classified as rural. About 92 percent to 100 percent of rural Alaskans use wild fish for food to some extent, and 79 percent to 92 percent use wildlife. Palin, herself a hunter, might live in too urban an area to be included in these statistics, but she has said she eats moose and other game.

State law is so favorable to hunters that it requires the state to have a hunting season before school starts in fall "[f]or the purpose of encouraging adults to take children hunting."

Out of Context on Health Care
September 22, 2008
Obama ad twists McCain's words on health care "deregulation."
Summary
An Obama-Biden ad falsely claims McCain says he wants to "do the same to our health care" that "Wall Street deregulation" has done to the banking industry.

The ad relies on a single phrase from a journal article under McCain's byline, in which he said he would reduce regulation of health insurance "as we have done over the last decade in banking." But the full context reveals that McCain was referring narrowly to his proposal to allow people to purchase health insurance across state lines.

Obama's Social Security Whopper
September 20, 2008
Updated: September 22, 2008
He tells Social Security recipients their money would now be in the stock market under McCain's plan. False.
Summary
In Daytona Beach, Obama said that "if my opponent had his way, the millions of Floridians who rely on it would've had their Social Security tied up in the stock market this week." He referred to "elderly women" at risk of poverty, and said families would be scrambling to support "grandmothers and grandfathers."

That's not true. The plan proposed by President Bush and supported by McCain in 2005 would not have allowed anyone born before 1950 to invest any part of their Social Security taxes in private accounts. All current retirees would be covered by the same benefits they are now.

We used to have a bounty on wolves in Minnesota. It was about $30 but they canceled that about 25 years ago. Now we need it again.

Hell, we had a bounty on Indians who were off the reservation till about 120 years ago. I believe it was $5 and you had to bring in both ears.

September 26, 2008 – Barack Obama is now using local law enforcement officials to carry out his campaign of legal intimidation by assembling a group of high-ranking Missouri police officials and prosecutors – including St. Louis County Prosecutor Bob McCullough and City of St. Louis Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce – to identify and target anyone the campaign determines is producing “misleading” political advertisements.

“This is an outrageous and shocking attempt by the Obama campaign to again employ Stalinist, police state tactics against those who dare to disagree with Barack Obama,” said Ed Martin, American Issues Projects president. “I am frankly stunned to see public officials like McCullough and Joyce abusing their official prosecutorial positions to serve as attack dogs for a national political campaign. I am quite certain Missourians elected these individuals to enforce the laws and arrest criminals, not to throw people in jail for daring to practicing free speech.

“The Obama campaign continues to provide a chilling preview of what would happen to political freedom in an Obama administration.”

This new effort is only the most recent attempt by the Obama campaign to crack down on free speech. Obama’s lawyers twice demanded the Department of Justice investigate and prosecute the American Issues Project, its officers, board of directors, and donors. The campaign also threatened stations running American Issues Project’s ad in an unsuccessful attempt to compel them to pull the spot, and ran its own ad in response.

Is there a bounty on squirrels?

Fighting Obama’s Goon Squad
By Michelle Malkin • September 26, 2008 04:54 PM

Chicago-trained thug Barack Obama has recruited musclemen in Missouri to intimidate critics.

It’s just the latest example of his bare-knuckle, speech-chilling bully tactics.

Missouri-based Jim Hoft at Gateway Pundit has an overview of how “St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch and St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce, both Obama supporters, are threatening to bring criminal libel charges against anyone who levels what turns out to be false criticisms of their chosen candidate for President.”

Sorry, I guess you had to bring their scalp in to receive the bounty.

Is there a bounty on squirrels?
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The_Evil_Dr*Burd on September 27, 2008 at 03:59 AM

No, but I think you can shoot them all year long.

I saw a black squirrel the other day.

Obama grant being probed
$100,000 DEAL | State to charity: What happened to garden money, other cash?

September 25, 2008
A $100,000 state grant for a botanic garden in Englewood that then-state Sen. Barack Obama awarded in 2001 to a group headed by a onetime campaign volunteer is now under investigation by the Illinois attorney general amid new questions, prompted by Chicago Sun-Times reports, about whether the money might have been misspent.

The garden was never built. And now state records obtained by the Sun-Times show $65,000 of the grant money went to the wife of Kenny B. Smith, the Obama 2000 congressional campaign volunteer who heads the Chicago Better Housing Association, which was in charge of the project for the blighted South Side neighborhood.

Smith wrote another $20,000 in grant-related checks to K.D. Contractors, a construction company that his wife, Karen D. Smith, created five months after work on the garden was supposed to have begun, records show. K.D. is no longer in business.

Steve --

I just finished my first debate with John McCain.

Millions of Americans finally got a chance to see us take on the fundamental choice in this election -- the change we need or more of the same.

I will provide tax cuts for the middle class, affordable health care, and a new energy economy that creates millions of jobs. John McCain wants to keep giving huge tax cuts to corporations, and he offered no solutions for the challenges Americans are facing in their daily lives.

I will end the war in Iraq responsibly, focus on defeating al Qaeda and the Taliban, and restore America's standing in the world after eight years of disastrous policies. John McCain wants an unending commitment in Iraq and fails to recognize the resurgent threat in Afghanistan.

Let's be clear: John McCain is offering nothing but more of the same failed Bush policies at home and abroad that he has supported more than 90% of the time in the Senate.

Americans need change now, and I need your help to get the word out about this movement.

In the coming days, it's going to be up to you to organize locally and reach the voters that are going to decide this election.

Now's the time to make your voice heard.

Please make a donation of $5 or more right now to support this campaign to bring the change we need:

https://donate.barackobama.com/thedebate

Thank you for all that you're doing,

Exonerated Marine to sue Rep. Murtha
Thursday, September 25, 2008
By Dennis B. Roddy, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

One of the Marines cleared in the killings of Iraqi civilians in the town of Haditha plans to sue his congressman today for statements he says defamed him and other members of his squad.

Former Marine Lance Cpl. Justin Sharratt, 24, of Canonsburg, will file a civil lawsuit against U.S. Rep. John P. Murtha, D-Johnstown, who was widely quoted two years ago saying that eight Marines carried out a cold-blooded killing of 24 civilians in the Iraqi town on Nov. 19, 2005.

Charges were later dropped against all but one of the Marines, with a military prosecutor calling allegations against Mr. Sharratt "incredible."

Noah Geary, a Washington County lawyer representing Mr. Sharratt, said his client will file suit today in U.S. District Court in Pittsburgh accusing Mr. Murtha of violating his constitutional rights as well as slander for statements about the Haditha incident. A 1:30 p.m. news conference has been planned to announce the suit.

"He just held innumerable press conferences, just repeatedly kept saying this was cold-blooded murder," Mr. Geary said of the congressman.

While Mr. Sharratt killed three insurgents, Mr. Geary said, he followed the rules of engagement for combat.

The Haditha incident remains a political flash point in the Iraq War, with critics saying Mr. Murtha, a Marine Corps veteran of Vietnam, defamed American troops.

Mr. Murtha could not be reached last night and a spokesman did not respond to a message requesting comment.

The_Evil_Dr*Burd on September 27, 2008 at 04:09 AM

That is exactly why I am not going to send Hussein bin Obama $5 no matter how many letters he sends me!

The_Evil_Dr*Burd on September 27, 2008 at 04:13 AM

All Americans whether Democrat or republican should support that suit against noted p.o.s and enemy sympathizer Murtha.

Murtha is also a really fat guy.

Gore urges civil disobedience to stop coal plants
Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:29pm EDT

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Nobel Peace Prize winner and environmental crusader Al Gore urged young people on Wednesday to engage in civil disobedience to stop the construction of coal plants without the ability to store carbon.

The former U.S. vice president, whose climate change documentary "An Inconvenient Truth" won an Academy Award, told a philanthropic meeting in New York City that "the world has lost ground to the climate crisis."

"If you're a young person looking at the future of this planet and looking at what is being done right now, and not done, I believe we have reached the stage where it is time for civil disobedience to prevent the construction of new coal plants that do not have carbon capture and sequestration," Gore told the Clinton Global Initiative gathering to loud applause.
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Yes sirreeeeeeeee, another fine example of the liberal complot to completely destroy our great nation. This asshat just won´t give up in his attempt. Anybody else would have been branded as a moron or retard for pulling this type of uncivilised, anti-american propaganda. he should do the world a favor and finally just shut the F#+k up.

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Sally-* on September 27, 2008 at 04:13 AM

I ahhhhh, wouldn´t give ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh, ahhhhhhhhh, Obamahhhhhhh, the sweat off my áaaaaaahhhhhh ´nads.

Henry Kissinger is "upset" with Obama for distorting his views!

Henry Kissinger believes Barack Obama misstated his views on diplomacy with US adversaries and is not happy about being mischaracterized. He says: "Senator McCain is right. I would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level. My views on this issue are entirely compatible with the views of my friend Senator John McCain. We do not agree on everything, but we do agree that any negotiations with Iran must be geared to reality."

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Sally-* on September 27, 2008 at 04:17 AM

Murtha is a liberal scab. He actually defiled a young soldier with his filthy liberal comments. Actually I believe he should put on trial for treason, for defiling a young patriotic soldier who did nothing but do his duty for his country in time of war. Progressive slandering assclowns do not deserve to live in our great nation. We have several of these slandering anti-american geeks on our blog, most of them live on the north-eastern coast.

We do not agree on everything, but we do agree that any negotiations with Iran must be geared to reality."
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Sally-* on September 27, 2008 at 04:32 AM

Turning the persian desert into a sheet of glass, could well be the only answer to this ongoing problem.

Need for a new climate change champion
By Dr. Tim Ball & Tom Harris Monday, February 4, 2008

Millions of Americans hold this view, yet none of the presidential candidates dare express it – human-induced climate change is a hoax.

You would think that a groundless phobia that has already wasted tens of billions of dollars and threatens millions of jobs would be an obvious target for anyone seeking to be the next leader of the Free World. But no one has picked up the mantle; at least not yet.

Cowed into political correctness by the bully-boy tactics of activists and headline-seeking mass media, none of those aspiring to be President has yet had the courage to speak on behalf of what has become a massive constituency.

How massive? The results of The Yale University Project on Climate Change give us an idea. They found in their survey released on September 26, 2007 that, among average Americans, fears of climate change Armageddon is anything but universal, as most in the press assert. In particular, despite being a ‘push poll’ effectively promoting the global warming hypothesis, the Yale survey discovered that:

# 40% of the American public believe there is “a lot of disagreement” among scientists about whether or not “global warming is happening”. Only slightly more - 48% - said scientists agreed.
# Only a slight majority - 57% - thought that, “If global warming is happening”, it is “caused mostly by human activities”.
# A full 50% of respondents said they worried about global warming only “a little” or “not at all” and only 30% thought global warming was a serious threat to people in the United States.

HEAT OF THE MOMENT
31,000 scientists reject 'global warming' agenda
'Mr. Gore's movie has claims no informed expert endorses'
Posted: May 19, 2008
8:51 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

More than 31,000 scientists across the U.S. – including more than 9,000 Ph.D.s in fields such as atmospheric science, climatology, Earth science, environment and dozens of other specialties – have signed a petition rejecting "global warming," the assumption that the human production of greenhouse gases is damaging Earth's climate.

"There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate," the petition states. "Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth."

"john, you're slick, but we need a leader. we've had a slick for 8 years."

Posted by america1st on September 27, 2008 at 01:36 AM

I assume that you are talking about SlickWilly.

TODAY IN HISTORY
1996 Fun-loving Jihadikaze asshats named the Taliban seize control of Kabul. Seventh century butchery, barbarism and murderous rampage ensues.

Man Allegedly Steals Uniform, Poses as Dodgers Player

Saturday, September 27, 2008

LOS ANGELES — A man faces criminal charges for allegedly stealing a uniform from Dodger Stadium and posing as one of the team's players.

Dopey Doodle pleaded not guilty to several charges Friday, including burglary and trespassing.

The 47-year-old Doodle was arrested Wednesday morning after a security guard found him walking on the field in a Dodgers uniform and holding a glove with two balls. Doodle allegedly identified himself as a Dodgers player, but the guard recognized him from an earlier incident and called police.

Prosecutors say Doodles' clothes were later found in the bat boys' locker room. It was not immediately clear where he got the uniform.

If convicted, Doodles could spend nearly four years in state prison.

Attempts to locate an attorney for Doodle were not successful Friday night.

Whoever winks the eye causes trouble, but the one who rebukes boldly makes peace. The mouth of the righteous is a fountain of life, but the mouth of the wicked conceals violence. Hatred stirs up strife, but love covers all offenses.

- Proverbs 10:10-12

Spending freeze on everything but defense-mcmoreofthesame

lay with jacquie, rise with fleas.

49The_Evil_Dr*Burd on September 27, 2008 at 03:26 AM

nope, the carpenter got some good lovin, a hot breakfast, a packed snack and a kiss before he headed out the door to go deer hunting.

he'll probably come back with a trophy buck that we'll be fed with all winter.

(CBS) It's one of the most explosive and important political charges of the election: "He wants to tax your health benefits," Barack Obama said.

Obama's charge was that that John McCain wants to tax the health insurance benefits Americans buy through employers, CBS News correspondent Wyatt Andrews reports.

"That's a $3.6 trillion tax potentially increase on middle class families," Obama said. "That will eventually leave tens of millions of you paying higher taxes."

John McCain wants a multi-trillion dollar tax on the middle class? Here are the facts.

Obama has the tax part correct, but the impact on the middle class is exaggerated - most people will see tax cuts.

McCain has proposed to end one of the largest tax breaks in the entire economy. Some 60 million Americans buy health insurance thru employers tax-free, and McCain would indeed begin to tax the value of the benefit.

However McCain also proposes to give the money back as a tax credit, $2,500 for individuals, $5,000 for families.

"Let's give them a $5,000 refundable tax credit to go out and get the health insurance of their choice," McCain said.

"It's mostly a tax break," said Len Burman of the Tax Policy Center.

The non-partisan tax policy center says except for the very richest Americans, most people buying insurance will see a tax cut.

"Families at all income levels would pay lower taxes, at least on average," said Burman. "On average, is about a $1,200 tax cut in 2009."

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McCain Wins Round 1
Posted 9/26/2008 10:21 PM CDT on Des Moines Register

It was one of the most substantive debates in recent presidential campaign history and John McCain won it.

The Arizona senator was cool, informed and forceful in Friday’s first presidential debate of the general election campaign.

He repeatedly put Barack Obama on the defensive throughout the 90 minutes session. Obama did little to ease voter concerns that he’s experienced enough to handle foreign and defense policy. That was his number one task Friday night and he failed.

Instead he was often his old meandering self, unable to state a quick, forceful position. Polls taken in the coming days should show McCain holding on to his trump card in the race - the view that he’s better equipped to be commander in chief.

He condescendingly called Obama “naive” at a couple points in the debate, like an old master lecturing a young understudy. Obama never seemed able to attack back.

McCain’s victory came at a good time for him in the race. He has fumbled around for a week on questions involving the economy and the federal bailout of Wall Street. His vice presidential candidate has become a running joke of late night comedy shows. As a result, his poll numbers sagged.

The debate came against the backdrop of a close presidential election at a time when the country faces its greatest economic crisis since the 1930s and some of its greatest military threats since World War II. The nation’s adversaries - Russia, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela and Taliban terrorists - seem to be on the ascendancy.

It has rattled Americans and between the two, McCain came off as the most reassuring. The crabby, grumbling, hotheaded McCain was nowhere to be seen. Instead we saw a calm, seasoned commander in chief . If you looked at your television and squinted slightly, you could better picture him addressing the country during a time of national crisis than Obama. Obama was often left flashing his smile and shaking his head at McCain.

McCain was expected to win on questions of foreign policy and national defense. That’s been his background. Where he routed Obama was on economic and spending questions as he repeatedly accusing Obama of using earmarks and wanting to spend too much.

When Obama tried his line about how McCain voted with George W. Bush 90 percent of the time, McCain slapped back by ticking off a lit of issues where he has disagreed with Bush - like torture, conduct of the war in Iraq and federal spending and Guantanamo Bay. McCain never got rattled or flustered, he just constantly stayed focused on the attack.

When Obama tried his line about how McCain voted with George W. Bush 90 percent of the time, McCain slapped back by ticking off a lit of issues where he has disagreed with Bush - like torture, conduct of the war in Iraq and federal spending and Guantanamo Bay. McCain never got rattled or flustered, he just constantly stayed focused on the attack.

78The_Evil_Dr*Burd on September 27, 2008 at 06:03 AM

that was the other 10% list.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/14003.html

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THEY GAVE YOUR MORTGAGE TO A LESS QUALIFIED MINORITY
September 24, 2008

On MSNBC this week, Newsweek's Jonathan Alter tried to connect John McCain to the current financial disaster, saying: "If you remember the Keating Five scandal that (McCain) was a part of. ... He's really getting a free ride on the fact that he was in the middle of the last great financial scandal in our country."

McCain was "in the middle of" the Keating Five case in the sense that he was "exonerated." The lawyer for the Senate Ethics Committee wanted McCain removed from the investigation altogether, but, as The New York Times reported: "Sen. McCain was the only Republican embroiled in the affair, and Democrats on the panel would not release him."

So John McCain has been held hostage by both the Viet Cong and the Democrats.

Alter couldn't be expected to know that: As usual, he was lifting material directly from Kausfiles. What is unusual was that he was stealing a random thought sent in by Kausfiles' mother, who, the day before, had e-mailed: "It's time to bring up the Keating Five. Let McCain explain that scandal away."

The Senate Ethics Committee lawyer who investigated McCain already had explained that scandal away -- repeatedly. It was celebrated lawyer Robert Bennett, most famous for defending a certain horny hick president a few years ago.

In February this year, on Fox News' "Hannity and Colmes," Bennett said, for the eight billionth time:

"First, I should tell your listeners I'm a registered Democrat, so I'm not on (McCain's) side of a lot of issues. But I investigated John McCain for a year and a half, at least, when I was special counsel to the Senate Ethics Committee in the Keating Five. ... And if there is one thing I am absolutely confident of, it is John McCain is an honest man. I recommended to the Senate Ethics Committee that he be cut out of the case, that there was no evidence against him."

It's bad enough for Alter to be constantly ripping off Kausfiles. Now he's so devoid of his own ideas, he's ripping off the idle musings of Kausfiles' mother.

Even if McCain had been implicated in the Keating Five scandal -- and he wasn't -- that would still have absolutely nothing to do with the subprime mortgage crisis currently roiling the financial markets. This crisis was caused by political correctness being forced on the mortgage lending industry in the Clinton era.

Before the Democrats' affirmative action lending policies became an embarrassment, the Los Angeles Times reported that, starting in 1992, a majority-Democratic Congress "mandated that Fannie and Freddie increase their purchases of mortgages for low-income and medium-income borrowers. Operating under that requirement, Fannie Mae, in particular, has been aggressive and creative in stimulating minority gains."

"Under Clinton, the entire federal government put massive pressure on banks to grant more mortgages to the poor and minorities. Clinton's secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Andrew Cuomo, investigated Fannie Mae for racial discrimination and proposed that 50 percent of Fannie Mae's and Freddie Mac's portfolio be made up of loans to low- to moderate-income borrowers by the year 2001.

Instead of looking at "outdated criteria," such as the mortgage applicant's credit history and ability to make a down payment, banks were encouraged to consider nontraditional measures of credit-worthiness, such as having a good jump shot or having a missing child named "Caylee."

Threatening lawsuits, Clinton's Federal Reserve demanded that banks treat welfare payments and unemployment benefits as valid income sources to qualify for a mortgage. That isn't a joke -- it's a fact."

When Democrats controlled both the executive and legislative branches, political correctness was given a veto over sound business practices.

In 1999, liberals were bragging about extending affirmative action to the financial sector. Los Angeles Times reporter Ron Brownstein hailed the Clinton administration's affirmative action lending policies as one of the "hidden success stories" of the Clinton administration, saying that "black and Latino homeownership has surged to the highest level ever recorded."

Meanwhile, economists were screaming from the rooftops that the Democrats were forcing mortgage lenders to issue loans that would fail the moment the housing market slowed and deadbeat borrowers couldn't get out of their loans by selling their houses.

A decade later, the housing bubble burst and, as predicted, food-stamp-backed mortgages collapsed. Democrats set an affirmative action time-bomb and now it's gone off.

In Bush's first year in office, the White House chief economist, N. Gregory Mankiw, warned that the government's "implicit subsidy" of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, combined with loans to unqualified borrowers, was creating a huge risk for the entire financial system.

Rep. Barney Frank denounced Mankiw, saying he had no "concern about housing." How dare you oppose suicidal loans to people who can't repay them! The New York Times reported that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were "under heavy assault by the Republicans," but these entities still had "important political allies" in the Democrats.

Now, at a cost of hundreds of billions of dollars, middle-class taxpayers are going to be forced to bail out the Democrats' two most important constituent groups: rich Wall Street bankers and welfare recipients.

Political correctness had already ruined education, sports, science and entertainment. But it took a Democratic president with a Democratic congress for political correctness to wreck the financial industry.

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Friday, September 26, 2008
They Said It! Former President Bill Clinton On Democrats Resisting Fannie Mae And Freddie Mac Reform

Clinton: "I think the responsibility that the Democrats have may rest more in resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress, or by me when I was President, to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac." (ABC's "Good Morning America," 9/25/08)

McCain is using the same tactic now that beat him in 2000. GWB just flat out lied and got away with it...McCains' hoping for the same.

As for the difference between a 'tactic' and a 'strategy'..McCain needs to educate himself. He called the surge a strategy...it is not...it is a TACTIC...to achieve a strategy...give the fledgeling gov't breathing room. If you're going to ''school'' someone on national television...be sure you know what you're teaching. Obama should have brought up the fact that the Iraqis have asked us for a timetable.

Watch the debate again...keep an eye out for McCains' creepy snake tongue, and just to keep it fun, drink a shot every time McCain says the word 'fundamental.' You'll be schnockered in no time.

I don't have a problem with Obama saying that he agrees with McCain...it's more obvious that Obama would be the more bipartisan of the two, and open minded...McCain couldn't even LOOK at Obama..a fellow American! How will he be with a foreign leader that isn't a staunch ally?? McCains' whole ''you don't understand'' reminds me of the current administrations' stance that they know all and they know best, and just shut up and follow.

Obama adressed China....McCain steered away from Bin Laden (no claims of following him to the gates of hell this time). Obama bringing up McCains' bomb Iran song speaks against Johnny's prudence and judgement. Did no one notice that McCain, when lecturing Obama on bombing Pakistan (which Obama cleared up that he never said)stated that ''I can't believe you said it out LOUD...you don't say that...but you gotta do what you gotta do.'' He basically said HE WOULD BOMB PAKISTAN. then he said hte if he became president that he would make sure the US never tortures....AGAIN...as in, that's what we're doing.

Obama could have really gone after McCains' jugular several times...but he didn't. This morning I am glad he did not, because that would not be the Obama he has been up to this point. McCain is too erratic, hysterical...Obama has been steady and held his own just fine. He was far more presidential than McCain in demeanor, tone, and words.

Henry Kissinger is "upset" with Obama for distorting his views!

From the Weekly Standard Blog:

bwhahahahahahahaha. The Weekly standard is owned and run by non other than the Kristols---major members of PNAC, intent on taking over the Middle East and all the Oil!!!!!

And the morning paper, ran back WORD FOR WORD what Obama said, and WHAT Kissinger said, and trust me, Obama did NOT say Presidents should do the talking, and Kissinger DID say that the US should talk to Iran!!!

Oh, ye who are so easily fooled. I have a bridge. A very nice bridge. It is for sale. Would you like to own your very own bridge?? Call me: 1-800-sucker

Pam...is that a bridge to nowhere??

NEXT DEBATE:

Obama, in his opening remarks looks right into the camera and says:

"John, a few weeks ago, in our first debate, all you did was attack me. You told lies and distorted the truths about my campaign and what I stand for. Tonight, I am going to look directly into the camera and tell the American people what I'm going to do as President to return this country to where it should be. When the American voter goes to the polls, they will know exactly what they are voting for and who can take them there. If you want to waste time in attacking me and what I can do for the American people, then go ahead. I'll not waste my time nor the voters time on attacking you. This time tonight will be for what I stand for and how I'm going to bring the American people together and make us a great nation as it once was."

NEXT DEBATE:

Obama, in his opening remarks looks right into the camera and says:

"John, a few weeks ago, in our first debate, all you did was attack me. You told lies and distorted the truths about my campaign and what I stand for. Tonight, I am going to look directly into the camera and tell the American people what I'm going to do as President to return this country to where it should be. When the American voter goes to the polls, they will know exactly what they are voting for and who can take them there. If you want to waste time in attacking me and what I can do for the American people, then go ahead. I'll not waste my time nor the voters time on attacking you. This time tonight will be for what I stand for and how I'm going to bring the American people together and make us a great nation as it once was."

mamo, shhhhhh, there are those McCain supporters who are not the sharpest tacks in the box, who might buy it anyways! :)

For there shall be a sowing of peace; the vine shall yield its fruit, the ground shall give its produce, and the skies shall give their dew; and I will cause the remnant of this people to possess all these things.
- Zechariah 8:12

McCain declares that there’s “a lot more than $18 billion” in earmark spending. Perhaps he’s returning to his unsubstantiated claim to be able to cut “$65 billion” in earmarks “that’s already on the books.” That figure included aid to Israel, which McCain later said he would not cut.

9:17: McCain mocked an earmark to study bear DNA, but his own running mate, Sarah Palin, has requested money to study seal DNA.

While McCain claims the U.S. is still the “greatest exporter,” it is in fact Germany that holds that distinction.

McCain has already used the joke that he wasn’t “elected Miss Congeniality in the Senate” twice during this debate. Ironically, Sarah Palin was Miss Congeniality.

Discussing ways he would save money in the federal budget, McCain said, “Look, we’re sending $700 billion a year overseas to countries that don’t like us very much.” But as the Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler points out, McCain is confusing foreign aid with the amount of money that Americans spend on foreign oil. The U.S. spends only $39 bllion a year in foreign aid.

studying dna is such a silly thing to do. after all it is only the biochemistry of living things. we should instead be spending money to find out why cranky old guys get crotch rot and repeat themselves so much.

obama won the debate if one looks at all scientific and unscientific post debate polling. and obama did a very nice job of introducing himself to working folks who may not have had time to pay much attention the election circus till now. my guess is mcbush gained nothing and obama gained alot.

Morning Screwum!! :)

Good debate. Did you happen to watch the post debate on CNN, and they discussed how they had Independent voters hooked up to wires, and McCain's sarcasm, lies, his not looking at Obama, all skewed downward by these people as he went on? So Obama played it right. No nasty remarks, attacks.

Obama came out looking Presidential, McCain petulent, unstable, mean, and very very un-CIC like. You want this little man with his finger on a red button?

btw, did you read the one at 9:10 last night by Dors, where Cafferty talks about Palin's interview and how bad it was???? OMG, if McCain ever kicked the bucket, and this bimbo was in office, God Help Us All !!!

Good morning, all.

I hope everyone will try to canvass today. We're going to reach out for our excellent candidate for Governor, Jay Nixon.

Next week is the Biden/Palin debate here in St. Louis. One of my sons attends Washington University. He says they have been preparing the campus all week. He and his friends are going to be part of the crowd waving Obama/Biden signs outside the "Hardball" set on the lawn. He'll be the tall good-looking redhead with sparkling blue eyes and his father's smile.

Obama did just fine last night. He knew his stuff, acted confident, and didn't act cocky. McCain was his usual arrogant self.

If most people were scoring on demeanor, Pat Buchanan said that McCain didn't do himself any favor last night. After McCain's publicity stunt in the middle of a crisis this week, Independents may have been looking at attitude carefully.

The old man showed no respect for his opponent which is very unsportman-like and generally acted condescending to someone who showed just as much knowledge of the subject as he did. It made him appear self-centered...a big no-no in any debate.

The last thing either candidate in a close election wants to do is alienate Undecided voters. McCain may have confirmed their worst fears last night.

later.

dan, you might want to visit reality once before you die. of course you can always wait until 11/4 when reality will visit you.

OXFORD, Mississippi (CNN) -- A national poll of people who watched the first presidential debate suggests that Barack Obama came out on top...Fifty-one percent of those polled thought Obama did the better job in Friday night's debate, while 38 percent said John McCain did better...

and

(CBS) The first presidential debate helped uncommitted voters learn about the candidates - and it appears that Democrat Barack Obama benefited the most, according to a CBS News/Knowledge Networks poll taken immediately following the debate...
...Immediately after the debate, CBS News interviewed a nationally representative sample of nearly 500 debate watchers assembled by Knowledge Networks who were "uncommitted voters" - voters who are either undecided about who to vote for or who say they could still change their minds. Thirty-nine percent of these uncommitted debate watchers said Obama won the debate. Twenty-four percent said McCain won, and another 37 percent thought it was a tie.

Nearly half of those uncommitted voters who watched the debate said that their image of Obama changed for the better as a result. Just eight percent say their opinion of Obama got worse, and 46 percent reported no change in their opinions...

but hey dan don't worry i'm sure sarah will turn it around for your team...hahahahahaha...unless she withdraws first...

more good news for mcbush...

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows Barack Obama attracting 50% of the vote while John McCain earns 44%.

mcbush is dropping so fast in the polls it may be time for some big move. the trip to dc to save the economy blew up in his face and i believe all he is left with is dumping palin and bringing in someone like....well that is the hard part...dumping palin pisses of the religious fanatics so would loserman or mittens bring in more folks than a palin under the bus move loses?? this is where mcbush really is at this morning. tough shit.

gregg, I think I read yesterday, that no candidate garnering 50% or more in the polls prior to election day has ever lost??

And there are a LOT of people that go by visual, instead of listening to words, and to those people, those smirks of McCain while Obama was talking, that SLOUCH and stooped back, that pompous beligerant attitude did it ! the Old Man showed he is an Old Man!

hey Danny Boy, turn on your TV set this morning, and listen to everyone OUTSIDE of the McCain campaign itself, say that when it came down to it, Obama won! You small minded little creep!

McShame: Unprofessional, stubborn, petulant, impolite, disrespectful, angry, trite, crabby, untruthful! A "uniter"? Can "reach across the aisle"? If this is how he treats his friends, then how does he treat his enamies, of which this thug has many?

Obama: Presidential

When asked by Chris Wallace on Fox "news" after the debate if he would be "respectful" (there's that word again)toward Palin next week, Senator Joe Biden said, "oh sure, I won't treat her the same way McCain treated Obama tonight."

Poor McShame, he must have attended the Rush Limbaugh School of Diplomacy during that two day delayed trip to Washington after skipping out on Letterman. He was downright disgraceful and tactless. No McShame, you don't get it!

morning pam. paul newman passed away. one of the best actors and human beings of all time. may he rest.

w just thanked Sen. Obama for his work on the economy. maybe mcsame will tie Obama to this failed administration. hahaha

is this thing stuck?

I was kind of hoping for more fireworks last night, but in retrospect, I'd say Obama played it about right.
I do wish he'd called McInsane on the "supporting veterans" thing though. McCain consistently votes AGAINST veterans, when he bothers to show up to vote at all.
"Earmarks" needed to be defined clearly, because Obama and McCain were very obviously using different definitions for the term.
McCain's refusal to address Obama was insulting. He'd stand there and tell the audience "Obama doesn't know what he's talking about" and then try to refute whatever Obama said, which had been knowledgeable and to the point. That was just bizarre.
I think that both candidates weren't wanting to commit too much detail on how the economy might affect their presidency until they see what the compromise package that the Congress works out holds. Can't fault them for that.
Some of the commentators kept saying that Obama was a good counter-puncher, but needed to be more aggressive. I don't know about that. More aggressive might have turned the swing voters off. The way it was it was like an experienced boxer fending off a intoxicated bully boy who was insisting on throwing wild punches at him. McCain was out classed!

I was kind of hoping for more fireworks last night, but in retrospect, I'd say Obama played it about right.
I do wish he'd called McInsane on the "supporting veterans" thing though. McCain consistently votes AGAINST veterans, when he bothers to show up to vote at all.
"Earmarks" needed to be defined clearly, because Obama and McCain were very obviously using different definitions for the term.
McCain's refusal to address Obama was insulting. He'd stand there and tell the audience "Obama doesn't know what he's talking about" and then try to refute whatever Obama said, which had been knowledgeable and to the point. That was just bizarre.
I think that both candidates weren't wanting to commit too much detail on how the economy might affect their presidency until they see what the compromise package that the Congress works out holds. Can't fault them for that.
Some of the commentators kept saying that Obama was a good counter-puncher, but needed to be more aggressive. I don't know about that. More aggressive might have turned the swing voters off. The way it was it was like an experienced boxer fending off a intoxicated bully boy who was insisting on throwing wild punches at him. McCain was out classed!

Hehehe...

The trolls are here to try to convince themselves that McCain did well at the debate. I guess they still follow the GOP strategy...repeat it often enough...maybe it will stick.

McCain lost last nights debate.

I say that because his own rhetoric set him up for failure.

Obama only really needs to stick to solving the issues we face as Americans.

McCain will not have to justify his "Maverick/Reformer" complex but he will also have to contend with the fact that the majority of Americans have already come to the conclusion that the Iraq invasion was a mistake and it was the Republican economic agenda of deregulation and irresponsible tax policies and his voting record with Bush and etc., etc., etc.

Obama won the debate, hands down. Not just my opinion, that's the consensus across the political spectrum, except for a few right-wing ostriches. Unforunately, I think that McDumb manged to exceed the very low expectations for his performance, so there is probably not a lot of swing coming due to this debate. The counterweight to that is that for the next debate expecations for McDumb will be much higher, and he won't be able to meet them. Last night was his zenith.

And yeh, Pam, no candidate for President with 50% or more within 30 days of an election has lost since Dewey.

122mammalicious on September 27, 2008 at 11:36 AM

Repeat it often enough and it will stick.

That's true.

Only the only thing that is being repeated is McCain and the Republicans got us into the mess we are in now and they're stuck.

I've not seen McCain have a SERIOUS discussion with anyone lately. It's more like the prattlings you hear in the dementia ward of the nursing home.

The Republicans are stuck with a legacy of corrupted, unreasonable, illogical and contradicting agendas and they just keep on repeating it.

Here's one thing that bothered me while watching last night's festivities - in the split-screen shots, McDumb appeared to be slightly taller than Obama, when in reality Obama is several inches taller than McDumb. In general I'm cool with them trying to keep a level playing field, but to me that was just a distortion of reality.

Was it my imagination or did Sen. McCain confuse 'dividends' with "deductions" during the first 30 minutes of the debate. I think that I remember his doing so several times. Does anyone know of a site where the transcript is available so that I can double check?

A little less that 20% of Americans still approve of Bush. That 20% would "stay the course" on a "bridge to nowhere" as long as the brand name is "Republican". So it should come as no surprise to anyone that Obama will not win a unanimous election.

But a landslide is still his for the taking.

Those Americans who are still on the fence trying to justify voting for an out of touch 72 year old Bush loyalist and his nowhere to be seen trophy vp nominee.

McCain still has a record of voting along side Bush 90% of the time even though he was thoroughly humiliated by Bush in the 2000 Republican primary.

And the fact of the matter is McCain is the default nominee for the Republican party because there are no strong leaders. Does anyone even remember Guiliani, Romney, Huckabee and Thompson.

Why does John McCain think he knows how to win a war? Cause he sat in a Vietnamese prison for 5 years?? How does that mean he was engaged in the process or affected policy?

Seems ol' Johhny always wants the credit for when things go right...but none of the responsibility/accountabilty when he's part of things going bad.

He wants to start Iraq the sequel in Russia over oil pipelines from the Caspian. THAT is why it mattered that Obama reiterated the importance of learning something about WHY we are in Iraq. McCain...has not learned. What's that they say about old dogs? He's a warmonger..."I know how to win a war!" He plays to the bloodthirsty (ironically proclaimed pro-life) base, and smirks the whole time. Didn't we have enough of that for the past 8 years?

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StewartT on September 27, 2008 at 11:45 AM
One definition of insanity is trying something, that didn't work the first time, over and over and expecting different results.

What was funny was on MSNBC after the debate last night, was Pat Buchanan. He commented on how McCain had really ''matured since the 2000 elections.'' Really?? At 72?? He's only maturing now? Does that mean he's settled down into the party line, and put away for good his 'youthful exuberences' for disagreement with party?

It took him 72 years to grow up?

Posted by Butte on September 27, 2008 at 12:06 PM

It's funny.

Bush wants to donate 700 billion dollars in taxpayer money to perpetuate the Wall Street insanity.

McCain wants to campaign for the presidency to perpetuate Republican insanity.

mammalicious on September 27, 2008 at 12:08 PM

Now, be fair, Mamm - McDumb was only 64 in 2000. Practcally an adolescent.

133mammalicious on September 27, 2008 at 12:08 PM

Republican loyalists are going to say anything to cheerlead they're choice.

This reminds me of 96 Clinton v Dole. Dole was clearly out of his league and Clinton humiliated Dole on his way to re-election. But talking to Republicans you would have thought Clinton didn't stand a chance.

And that was before the invention of the political blog.

I talked to some supporters on the phone and some believed that Obama wasn't attacking McCain enough.

I believe that Obama should stick to his agenda and his own policies and if McCain attacks him the same way he always does all Obama needs to do is remind us about how McCain voted for Bush 90% of the time.

And McCain has an abundant of examples of hypocrisies that Obama can use.

I just think Obama should use McCain's own inadequacies as a defense against attacks rather than the platform to address issues.

I'm afraid Senator Obama was far too collegiate and conciliatory in his words and actions towards McCain. He should have been more formal (addressing him not as "John" but as Sen. McCain), he should NOT have repeated over and over that Sen. McCain was "CORRECT", and he should have been more on the offensive with passion and strength. We watched the debates knowing Obama is the rightful winner, but he could have done much more to claim the evening as his own. OBAMA COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR - PLEASE ADVISE HIM BETTER FOR THE NEXT ROUND!!!

Christopher...good point, but does this mean that he's gonna live till 140??

A clear majority of Americans have a lot to lose if McCain becomes president.

That's a fact that is clearly at issue.

Even McCain said last night to check the record.

The record is simply, McCain voted 90% of the time in favor of Bush.

I think that Obama realized that to get dragged into a mudslinging match with McCain was a trap. He rose above the petty insults and hit him with what worked...the truth.

Furthermore, what's up with Obama slapping John McCain on the back after the debate and saying "Good job, John" .... what is this, a t-ball game? McCain could hardly even look Obama in the face, and Obama was Mr. NiceGuy? Come on, it's showtime Barack, the gloves have to come off!!!

McCain tried to play for laughs...and it looked pathetic with the audience having to remain silent.

Obama was being grown up. I have no problem with that...the fact that McCain is petty shouldn't mean Obama has to be too.

Posted by gregg on September 27, 2008 at 09:11 AM

gee gweggy, you´re not the youngest, what do you do for relief when it starts itching?

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StewartT on September 27, 2008 at 11:58 AM
"McCain still has a record of voting along side Bush 90% of the time even though he was thoroughly humiliated by Bush in the 2000 Republican primary."
"Even though"? or because?
McCain is a whipped dog trying to act like an Alpha wolf. How much of his, to borrow a word, pitbull attitude has been and still is overcompensation for his actions when he was POW, and later when he was trounced by Bush in the 200 primary?
McCain is really pretty pathetic. He is an ineffectual old coot who is trying to be something he's not while he slips into senility. A willing shill for his handlers as long as they keep pandering to his ego.
That he chose a running mate who is nothing more than an over-age high school bully also says volumes none of it good.
It says that the Republican party is morally bankrupt, and pwnd by the uncaring rich and greedy.
It also says a lot about the low regard the powers behind the throne in the party hold their fellow Americans.
It will be interesting to see what happens to the Republican party in the next few years. Will it fracture into unrecognizable fragments, or will it become just another third party as a newer more viable entity takes its place?

There's part of the debate that isn't finished:

Mr. McCain, exactly how and when do we pull our troops from Iraq? What is your definition of victory? Who will be the last to die for your war? Will you stay in Iraq after we're told by their government tney don't want us there anymore? Have you told Bush you don't agree with setting a "time horizon?"

Do you enjoy sending troops into Iraq without proper safety equipment, you know, "You go into war with what you got not what you wish you had?" Where were you when all the looting started? Where were you when we were losing troops by the hundreds long before your beloved "surge?" Why are there more troops in Iraq now since before the "surge?" Where were you when incompetents were sent to administer Iraq based on their party loyalty, not expertise? Where were you when Paul Bremmer was making all those boneheaded decisions?

Where were you on the vote for the new GI Bill? Why do vets give you a 20% favorable vote rating and Obama 80%. Why is it the vets from Iraq don't much like you?

THEY DON'T CALL YOU "JOHNNY COME LATELY" FOR NOTHING

Posted by mammalicious on September 27, 2008 at 12:28 PM

I agree whole heartedly.

Obama's biggest challenge wasn't Hillary.

Obama's biggest challenge isn't McCain.

Obama's biggest challenge is Russia, China, North Korea, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, the American Economy, etc., etc., etc.

McCain is a lightweight that the Republican party is stuck with for a lack of a better alternative. McCain is merely the default nominee for the Republican party.

Obama attacking McCain is like a Heavyweight boxer going for a knockout against a Featherweight. That would only make Obama look like a bully.

TODAY IN HISTORY

1919 The Democratic National committee decides to give the female half of humanity a seat at the table; Comrade Hillary laughs demonically, plans her hostile takeover.

143mammalicious on September 27, 2008 at 12:30 PM

I agree.

Going for the laughs only works if the incumbant political party is in the favor of the majority of voters.

Obama didn't just blindly agree..he went on to say...but here's where we differ on the finer points.

Far more open minded, more bipartisan in his outlook. McCain only reinforced his appearance to be a continuation of Bush last night.

Biden stated that he believes that the American people are smarter than given credit for...I sure hope he's right...for our country's sake, afterall enough of them were fooled in 2000 and 2004.

Obama live on msnbc..he's attacking mcsame now. ;)

McCain needs to turn this election into a mudslinging contest because he has no political substance that can be verified by his record.

Obama has always been an agent of change since he first spoke at the Democratic National Convention in 2004.

What are you talking about there, dr. turd?

Comrade?? Wow..are you sure you're not McCain? Cause he really seemed like he wanted to begin the cold war again....or start a hot one with Russia with his ''I looked in Putins eyes and saw K...G...B.''

Obama's biggest challenge is Russia, China, North Korea, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, the American Economy, etc., etc., etc.

Posted by StewartT on September 27, 2008 at 12:37 PM

Dumbo´s biggest challenge is that of getting elected, but the chance of that happening is pretty darned slim.

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114Dan_A_Cactus** on September 27, 2008 at 11:03 AMis this thing stuck?

113Esmeralda on September 27, 2008 at 10:40 AM

Chicken bucket stuck on your head again?

Going for that last wing at the bottom?

115Dan_A_Cactus** on September 27, 2008 at 11:05 AM

you had to type in a letter to get the posts to show up then you type this in response to me? what a dumbass you are!

Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on September 27, 2008 at 01:12 PM

such as jacquie who switched to essie

hey danny boy here are today's polls. i know, i know mcbush's brilliant performance will change them all completely by monday...how about some predictions for us mere mortals as to what they will be monday...sally gave us some figures a few weeks ago but sadly they were WAY off so what don't you take a shot at the brass ring??

Iowa Rasmussen Obama 51, McCain 43 Obama +8

National Gallup Tracking Obama 49, McCain 44 Obama +5

National Rasmussen Tracking Obama 50, McCain 44 Obama +6

National Hotline/FD Tracking Obama 48, McCain 43 Obama +5

Good afternoon, all!

I see the trolls are dissing Letterman as some sort of TV clown.

It must be why McBozo made his announcement to run for President on his show, then.

McCain announces '08 bid on Letterman

I guess McLame-o is a user and a loser.

She didn't say if she got her head out of the bucket with that last wing lodged in her mouth.

Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on September 27, 2008 at 01:23 PM

Hey cactus, i would guess that it´s stuck crossways in her gullet

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on September 27, 2008 at 01:26 PM

hey Pauly, speaking of losers.....

Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on September 27, 2008 at 01:29 PM

BWhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

way to go Cactus!!!!!!

bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!

Chicken bucket stuck on your head again?

Going for that last wing at the bottom?

Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on September 27, 2008 at 11:05 AM

Jacquie´s so-called carpenter supossedly went hunting this morning. Either he didn´t shoot anything or he´s passed out down at the local beer joint.

Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on September 27, 2008 at 01:43 PM

You never know about them liberals. That "young dear" could even be a "young Buck".

Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on September 27, 2008 at 01:26 PM
Afternoon DBDBD! I hope that you are well.
I have been looking for a transcript of last night's debate and haven't been able to find one. any ideas?

Posted by marymac_memphis on September 27, 2008 at 01:48 PM

Good morning, marymac,

Transcript of the first presidential debate

.

so dan and burd i take it that neither of you will make a concrete poll prediction? and of course polls are irrelevant? got it. say hello to president obama kids...

Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on September 27, 2008 at 01:52 PM
Thank you!

polls are irrelevant?

Posted by gregg on September 27, 2008 at 01:54 PM

Thats pamellla´s favorite thing to say, then she´ll post a poll an hour later and pretend that she is an expert. But we know the truth. Yobama is a friggen loser.

i will make the trolls predictions for them:

9-29-08 polls don't matter the bradley effect will take down obama

11-3-08 mccain will win in an upset

11-5-08 about 1am obama will only get one term then gingrich/delay will win in 2012

Strange way to debate.

119Dan_A_Cactus** on September 27, 2008 at 11:16 AM

We are smarter than you, dumb dumb. You give the compliment and then you tear his ass of. It's the new style that works.

Polls are only irrelevant when the R's are losing. That's what they say when they are freaking out.

Posted by gregg on September 27, 2008 at 01:57 PM

A gerbil must have crawled up your ass and is gnawing at your spleen, or is that a black squirrel?

dan you are an asshole. a concrete prediction is simply putting a number down that you think a poll will register on a particular day. but you are so worried about your moronic ticket of grouchy gramps and the alaska scamp that you are afraid to make a prediction. you are also incredibly stupid. why not take off your mom's bra and shoes before she comes back from the store and finish that general science homework you promised the teacher you would get done over the weekend?

Seems to me it just the opposite on this blog. Pam, gregg and others will try and disregard polls as non factors when Obama is trailing but as soon as he's ahead by 1 pt they are all a twitter.

Posted by MarkLof on September 27, 2008 at 02:07 PM

a twitter? they wet themselves with joy!

Boy was McSame pissed when Obama brought up Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran. What did he say under his breath, I could of sworn it was somethings like, "you son of a bitch." He wanted to blow but kept it under wraps.

I think the best line of the night was, "I've got a bracelet too" priceless.

What about, (not exact quote) "you said we'd be greeted as liberaters, you said it would be over in 6 months" your were wrong senator. And your judgement has been called into question.

What about when McSame was going off on earmarks and barack says, ending earmarks alone isn't a plan for the economy. Then he says, John you voted for 90% of all of that spending that was done under bush.

Ha, gotcha!

gregg on September 27, 2008 at 02:10 PM

greggy is back on his mother complex again

John McCain said:
"So the point is, I want people to have tax cuts. I want every family to have a $5,000 refundable tax credit so they can go out and purchase their own health care. I want to double the dividend from $3,500 to $7,000 for every dependent child in America."

I want to double the DIVIDEND?

Shouldn't this be DEDUCTION?

Dividends are proceeds from stocks and other investments. Deductions are what reduces the amount of income that taxes are a percentage of.

Isn't that correct?

i bet palin does really well tuesday.

the only way to be nice to a goat humper is to sell him a gallon bucket of "Bag Balm" at half price

Posted by marymac_memphis on September 27, 2008 at 02:15 PM

-------------------------------------------------

Your right, he should have said double the deduction. He probably doesn't know the difference.

Hey, whoever handles the McCains checkbook, didn't pay the property taxes for years on the LaJolla, CA property. It shows they hire incompitant people in their private lives. Just think of the incompitants they would employ as president.

Also, when McCain said he would axe almost ever budget except defense, he looked like a big war mongorer. I loved the line Obama used that he would use a scapel rather than a axe. That not every program needs to be slashed to fix it, a little scapel to the parts that are not working would go a long way.

Our candidate is far superior in intellect and heart. If anyone wondered why we fought soo hard for barack to be our candidate, they shouldn't wonder now.

Time to indict Abu GOnzales, and haul Chimpy off to the Hague.

Report: Bush ‘Personally Directed’ Gonzales To Strong-Arm Ashcroft At His Bedside.

So much for "plausible deniability".

Sarah Palin will mop the floor with Biden. He'll make some crack about her being a woman and his ratings will fall faster than Bill Clinton's pants at the sight of a chubby White House intern.

Posted by MarkLof on September 27, 2008 at 02:19 PM

Sarah is more woman than any of these liberal wenches ever will think of being. She is sweet, hot and intelligent.

Man Allegedly Steals Uniform, Poses as Dodgers Player

Saturday, September 27, 2008

LOS ANGELES — A man faces criminal charges for allegedly stealing a uniform from Dodger Stadium and posing as one of the team's players.

Dopey Doodle pleaded not guilty to several charges Friday, including burglary and trespassing.

The 47-year-old Doodle was arrested Wednesday morning after a security guard found him walking on the field in a Dodgers uniform and holding a glove with two balls. Doodle allegedly identified himself as a Dodgers player, but the guard recognized him from an earlier incident and called police.

Prosecutors say Doodles' clothes were later found in the bat boys' locker room. It was not immediately clear where he got the uniform.

If convicted, Doodles could spend nearly four years in state prison.

Attempts to locate an attorney for Doodle were not successful Friday night.

Palin out debate Biden?? That's the best laugh since Obama getting McCain hot under the collar last night!

Palin got out debated in the Miss Alaska pagent and came in second...you think she'll come remotely close in a VP debate?? Biden should hammer her...afterall, she stated (on video) that a woman running for public office should expect no less and not whine when it happens.

I love the the GOPers still haven't learned that videotape remains long after the comments are made..no sense trying to deny shit anymore.

It wasn't clever of funny the first time you posted that, but whatever amuses you keeps you off the streets, I guess.

As for Palin mopping the floor with anyone or anything (talk about sexist), why was Biden on the tube right after the debate giving his take and McLame-o had McNitwit holed up in a bar with a fat cat anti net neutrality Pug donor and McBozo had to put Rudy 9/11 on in her place?

If she's so damn awesome and ready to go why is she being kept in a beer bubble away from any questioning reporters?

IS their new campaign slogan "McCrank and McDrank?

i guess we will just have to wait till 11/4 to see what the real deal is. me, i like our chances.

Some of the pundits were wondering why McCain never looked at Obama. Well, the New York Times is reporting that every time McCain sees Obama's big "bat like" ears he giggles so he tries not to look at him to maintain decorum.

When the lovely and talented Sarah Palin is finished with Biden, he will be reduced to nothing but a nose pickin´crotchety old man.

Doo-Bee, check out below what was going on outside the bar palin was holed up in, below. Why are my links white or invisable? Check it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oNukjPtSc4&NR=1

Posted by newsjunkie on September 27, 2008 at 02:54 PM

Ooooooooooh a gaggle of leftist hairballs at a Sarah event. What a surprise!

This blog is the only one, where the the regulars switch from their regular anonymous names to use new anonymous names so their friends posting , won't no who they are.

158Dan_A_Cactus** on September 27, 2008 at 01:12 PM

You are really Very Very simple, Danny old boy.

You have used more names here pretending to be someone else than every blogger in the internet bubble put together. You think you are clever or something, but I have told you before, you have a very low IQ and it shows through in every single post.

So, Look up what the term Hypocrit, or anal opening means, and then shut your fat mouth about people using other names, because YOU are the only one that does it. Got It?

WOW, look at these numbers from Debate watchers who did so using Text messaging!! Especially Independents and even Republicans.

http://mediacurves.com/

Yes, and lame ass comments about diapers (ahem) and goats, and now chicken buckets (not to mention squirrels) are the height of political discourse when you can't defend your Party or your candidate based on facts and THEIR record of abject total failure.

McLame-o IS cranky.

McNitwit WAS pounding brewskis in a bar instead of going on the tube and facing the American voters.

Which campaign is made up of leaders, and which one is made up of cowards?

If she's going to mop the floor in 6 days, she had better start trying to find where the bucket is, and it sure as Hell ain't gonna be filled with beer.

WHY is teh McLame campaign handkers terrified of her saying ANYTHING in public, or answering the simplest of questions?

We all have heard that her mock debate practices and mock press conferences were all unmitigated disasters.

Ready to lead?

Not even the Idiot-ride.

She's a spectator thrust into the limelight like the "SuperFan" or the San Diego Chicken, and she's not even good at being an interesting diversion at that.

The bloom is off the rose, it still smells like fertilizer.

the dems are too busy communicating with Elvis, and playing with ouija boards.

Think Letterman is the only one who thinks McCain is a riot to joke about???

. Late Night Jokes Of The Week: McCain's Age & Poll Numbers, Palin's Hunting & Kids' Names

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/27/late-night-jokes-of-the-w_n_129735.html

McCain is nothing but a Loser ! A very OLD loser.

And in case anyone Still is Mistaken over who Won last night, then get your fill:

Who Won The Debate? Reviews Go To Obama

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/26/debate-reviews-go-to-obam_n_129803.html

vaddayaddayaddayadda
Posted by PamB on September 27, 2008 at 03:05 PM

Hi, Gregg,

I saw that Paul Newman died. too bad. He lived in Westport , CT, and considered running against Lieberman when he realized how bad Lieberman was , but then threw his support behind Lamont.

He was your Typical Wealthy Liberal. He started that Hole In the Wall Camp for Cancer kids and started up his chips, salsa, food business and all the money went to it. A man who would have been better off financially following Republicans, but followed his conscience and heart instead.

Last time, 3 days before the election, Zogby had Kerry ahead 47 - 46%. Bush won 51 - 48%. And Kerry was white guy (albeit an extremely ugly one) so there was no Bradley effect.

Are you a babe?

Posted by MarkLof on September 27, 2008 at 03:11 PM

bwhahahahahahahahahahahahabwhahahahahahahahahahah!

Obama was better at foriegn affairs than Mclame. McLame looked his name when he kept saying obama doesn't understand, when clearly not only does he understand, he understands the world better than Mclame.

I bet a lot of people were surprised last night. After all of the lies and mischaracterizations of Obama, he looked strong. All he had to do was tie a 26 year old veteran of war on the topic of foriegn affairs. He did it easily and out debated Mclame on the bad judgement Mclame has had over the years.

Posted by Sally-* on September 27, 2008 at 03:10 PM

Yeah, they rigged the machines dumb ass. They showed it months after, a vote for kerry went directly into the bush category. In ohio, at that time they had a republican heading it up. They got rid of her and now a dem is heading up the voting. Also, barack is a constitutional expert, we will not back down this year to cheating, we may be counting the votes for a while. Barack don't quit. If you haven't realized that by now, you've got a whole new world coming your way.

We all have heard that her mock debate practices and mock press conferences were all unmitigated disasters.

Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on September 27, 2008 at 03:03 PM

Of course we have heard that but only the stupid believe it. The lovely and talented Sarah has already defeated in debate a US Senator in her quest for the governorship. The gaffmeister, Biden, will say something incredibly stupid during the debate. You can take that to the bank! The lovely and talented Sarah will come off as knowledgable, pleasant, decisive and desirable.

Are you a babe?

Posted by MarkLof on September 27, 2008 at 03:11 PM

June, 01,1942 would hardly qualify her has being a "Babe". More like an "old Woman".

A "looney Old Woman".

newsjunkie on September 27, 2008 at 03:20 PM

Dream on!

Posted by newsjunkie on September 27, 2008 at 03:20 PM

say "Hi" to Elvis for me the next time you see him.

PamB, how old are you? It seems you are often making reference to Sen. McCain's age as if you were some young babe.

Are you a babe?

218
MarkLof on September 27, 2008 at 03:11 PM

Maybe in the gargoyle world.

Mcgeezer was disgusting last night. Every word out of his mouth was a lie. One lie in particular really pissed me off. He was bragging that he held hearings on the MIA POW's which were very suddessful.

What a frigging lie. Google it and see. In one case he walked into the hearing room and claimed that there were no missing POW's. He becaqme furious at their questions and started yelling at the families of the MIA POW's and stormed out of room pushing a woman in a wheelchair aside so violently that she almost fell out of his chair.
Is this the kind of man(?) we want as president?

Last night he invoked raygun at least two times. Everything he said was off point or so it seemed to me.

I can't wait too see the beauty queen impaled by Biden.

...The lovely and talented Sarah will come off as knowledgable, pleasant, decisive and desirable...

Posted by some moron @ who cares PM

REALLY?

She sure demonstrated that during this interview, didn't she?

WHAAAAAAA???

Posted by Johne on September 27, 2008 at 03:26 PM

watch it johnnywierd, pammy is on her oldman and crotchety trip again. 1935 certainly qualifies you to be one of her victims.

The lovely and talented Sarah will come off as knowledgable, pleasant, decisive and desirable.

223Sally-* on September 27, 2008 at 03:20 PM

Why should she start now??

Maybe in the gargoyle world.

Posted by Sally-* on September 27, 2008 at 03:25 PM

somebody should mount her on the ledge of some midevil church roof.

Aww...Everyone is out trying to protect poor little fragile Sarah before Thursday's debate. Don't worry...they'll be trying to get the debate moved or cancelled...what other issue can McCranky cry ''they sky is falling'' (after he first says skies are clear and bright) and that he needs to ''fix'' it (when he'll actually get in the way)?

McCrank and McSkank...the dysfunctional duo!

Grow up.

202Dan_A_Cactus** on September 27, 2008 at 02:45 PM

hahahahahahahahahahaha

You are in rare form there today, Old Man!

Grow UP? You are here, cyber stalking and posting 4th grade material, and you have enough balls left on that old body----to tell somebody to Grow Up????????

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Gasp.........

Cut it out, now will ya? First with the criticism about using other names, and now with the immaturity remark?????

God, if you could only find a Life ! Pitiful.

She sure demonstrated that during this interview, didn't she?

Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on September 27, 2008 at 03:28 PM

I have not seen her flop in any interviews yet.

Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on September 27, 2008 at 03:40 PM

Oh, and the story about the guy in Hartford hit by a hit and run, seems the guy was wearing a McCain button, so nobody really gave a shit ! Figure somebody that ignorant----well, what's the big loss?

take care, Dems. Blog ya tomorrow, and hope that things get ironed out here. Know that your Post will eventually appear.
Posted by PamB on June 6, 2008 at 08:21 PM
############################################

Hmmmm, deja vu?

222newsjunkie on September 27, 2008 at 03:20 PM

While it is true that the Ohio Secretary of State is Democratic, the county boards of elections are run by bi-partisan teams of repugs and democratic election officials. The county level is were the voting machines are stored, programmed and utilized on election day.

Sec. Brunner has outlined very specific Directives, Advisories and countess memos that provide legal and administrative procedures for Ohio election officials to follow to ensure every Ohio voter is treated equally and that our elections are fair and accurate.

Sally...you need to get out from under that rock of yours.

Hello....??

Bridge to nowhere...she SUPPORTED IT
Selling plane on eBay....UNTRUE
Earmarks...leads the pack in amounts per constituent.

She's a nutjob who believes Iraq is a mission from God and that the blessings of a witchhunter got her into the governors mansion!

She is fiscally IRRESPONSIBLE, Socially fascist, and mentally incapable.

She is fiscally IRRESPONSIBLE, Socially fascist, and mentally incapable.

Posted by mammalicious on September 27, 2008 at 03:52 PM

Now you´re describing Hillary

Posted by MarkLof on September 27, 2008 at 03:53 PM

Oh ya, thats our pammy alright.

What's the deal with Teddy Kennedy these days? Is he ill or something? I was comparing recent photos of him against one's from 10 years ago and I can't tell the difference.

Maybe less drunk is all.

244MarkLof on September 27, 2008 at 03:48 PM

Nice...he was rushed to the hospital yesterday you ass.

Why won't McShame release his medical records? He don't look so good either...

Start making your excuses now as to why Sarah tanks at the debate.

Even conservative journalists are now calling for her to step down and go home to look after her kids....

Now that a great example of a compassionate liberal.

Do you think it might have been her? I have seen old women drive badly, you know, doing their makeup or resetting their false teeth with caulk.

Posted by MarkLof on September 27, 2008 at 03:53 PM

pammy wrote the book on "compassionate"

Am I correct in my impression that the average age of the bloggers on this site is approximately 72.8 years? I bet some funeral home has hired help watching this site for potential business.

250MarkLof on September 27, 2008 at 03:56 PM

LMAO!!! No...that's your candidate for president!!

Posted by mammalicious on September 27, 2008 at 03:52 PM

Sarah never said she sold the airplane on ebay. She said she listed it there which she did do.

That is the trouble with liberals (one of them), they put words into someones mouth and them call the person a liar based on something they didn't say.

Meekloaf, Silly and evil turd...

Why do you guys try so hard to convince others and yourself that you are backing a winning team? You'd do better on a GOP blog where the brain is shared so you don't tire out so fast.

.

Posted by mammalicious on September 27, 2008 at 04:03 PM

you are backing a rascist terrorst friend

"That luxury jet was over the top," Palin, the Republican vice presidential nominee, said to loud cheers. "I put it on eBay."

Palin's statement implied the plane was sold through the online auction site revered for empowering millions of small entrepreneurs, and Palin's spokeswoman insisted Thursday that the transaction occurred. But the plane failed to sell on eBay.

It actually sold at a loss to the state...nice fiscal work. She built a sports complex on land the town she was mayor of didn't even own...resulting in legal problems and costs for years. She left the town in debt to the tune of 20 million...when she entered office with no debt AND got millions in earmarked money!

BTW... you name (mammalicious) is intriguing...

Are you a MILF, a GILG or a GGILF? I am laying money on the last one.

Posted by MarkLof on September 27, 2008 at 04:02 PM

She is a Negro lap dancer.

Congress is still brainstorming Bernanke's proposed bail out despite having received a letter signed by over 200 economists oppoing the plan. They have not given taxpayers a voice in this decision. I'm sure many people are feeling very frustrated to be shut out on such an important matter.

One thing that might help is to insist that Congress members disclose, along with their favorable decision on a bail out, their own holdings in bailed out companies. There should be no conflict of interest when considering the well-being of citizens.

mammalicious on September 27, 2008 at 03:52 PM

it has een reported in the National Enquirer that she had an extramarital affair. If the NE was correct about Gary Hart & John Edwards, they are spot on with this one too.

;P

Meekloaf...seems you are a typical repub...acting righteous...but really obsessed with the perverse. No wonder you see your fine, ''qualified'' VP candidate as just a ''hot'' piece of ass. I guess that's all she needs to be qualified for.

It actually sold at a loss to the state...nice fiscal work.

mammalicious on September 27, 2008 at 04:09 PM

Well duh, the aiplane was ten years older when she sold it. Try getting what you paid for it from your 10 year old car.

BTW... you name (mammalicious) is intriguing...

Are you a MILF, a GILG or a GGILF? I am laying money on the last one.

Posted by MarkLof on September 27, 2008 at 04:02 PM

She is a Negro lap dancer.

261Sally-* on September 27, 2008 at 04:09 PM

Sally, Sally, Sally...if you hate blacks so much...why do you seem to fantasize about them so often?? Nice to see you dolts make judgements so completely off base..just lends to your intellect and credibility.

What I learned from last night's debate: I have made the right choice for Obama as president. He is everything we need in a president for these times: thoughtful, compassionate, competent, through and Constitutional.

McCain is worse than Bush. He is only good at one thing: war. We don't need wars. We can't afford wars. It's time to try something else.

it has een reported in the National Enquirer that she had an extramarital affair.

;P

Posted by Esmeralda on September 27, 2008 at 04:11 PM

Jacquie,
You´re choice of reading material is really substandard, but nothing else could be expected from a woman of your caliber.

it has een reported in the National Enquirer that she had an extramarital affair. If the NE was correct about Gary Hart & John Edwards, they are spot on with this one too.

;P

263Esmeralda on September 27, 2008 at 04:11 PM

Wouldn't suprise me. Even McCain couldn't keep from straying...and I don't mean from his wife that stood by him through his injuries and that he abandoned because of her injuries...I'm talking about a fling with a lobbyist that hung in his orbit...

Esmerelda is spreading rumors and gossip again.

it has een reported in the National Enquirer that she had an extramarital affair. If the NE was correct about Gary Hart & John Edwards, they are spot on with this one too.

;P

263Esmeralda on September 27, 2008 at 04:11 PM

Wouldn't suprise me. Even McCain couldn't keep from straying...and I don't mean from his wife that stood by him through his injuries and that he abandoned because of her injuries...I'm talking about a fling with a lobbyist that hung in his orbit...while being married to miss moneybags.

U.S. lending standards before the global credit crisis were "ridiculous," and the world can learn from China's more cautious system as it considers financial reforms, the top Chinese bank regulator said Saturday.

Beijing curbed mortgage lending in 2003 and 2006 to keep debt manageable amid a real estate boom, while American regulators responded to a similar situation by letting credit grow, said Liu Mingkang, chairman of the Chinese Banking Regulatory Commission.

"When U.S. regulators were reducing the down payment to zero, or they created so-called `reverse mortgages,' we thought that was ridiculous," Liu said at the World Economic Forum in this eastern Chinese city. He said debt in the United States and elsewhere rose to "dangerous and indefensible" levels.

Liu's comments were unusually pointed criticism of U.S. financial regulation for a Chinese official. They added to suggestions by countries that are under U.S. pressure to liberalize their financial markets that Washington's model might not be ideal.

More...........

Chinese regulator calls US lending 'ridiculous'

Posted by mammalicious on September 27, 2008 at 04:17 PM

and lap dancing is an "honorable" profession?

Essie, I heard about the affair on the Stephanie Miller show last Friday.

I guess an affair is ok for a beauty queen but not for John Edwards.

This double standard should not be tolerated.

Posted by Johne on September 27, 2008 at 04:24 PM

don´t worry about it gramps, its probably nothing but liberal prpaganda anyway. you asshats are real good at that.

you trolls provide all the cheap entertainment I need. hahaha the National Enquirer which was located in the magazine rack at the grocery store had it front and center. I noticed it while in line at the grocery store. Steve would have bought all the copies and drooled (or is that trooled) all over them.

Was one of McCains' earmarks to go over to Korea and compare the height of N. Koreans to those in the south??

What a ridiculous statement during the debate!! If democracy equals greater height...equals better country....then the obvious conclusion to draw from Obama being 6'1'' and McCain 5'9'' is....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!

You're right tylinca...and you can't keep having wars if your economy is in shambles

...no matter how long you pretend the fundamentals are strong.

hahaha the National Enquirer which was located in the magazine rack at the grocery store had it front and center. I noticed it while in line at the grocery store.

Posted by Esmeralda on September 27, 2008 at 04:28 PM

Sure jacquie, we believe every word you say, NOT!
of course you believe everything the NE says don´t you?

In China they hang people that screw up companies or they commit suicide first.

Maybe we should be a little less forgiving and hang these criminal CEO's.

Posted by mammalicious on September 27, 2008 at 04:29 PM

You really are that stupid aren't you?

N Koreans are on the average 3" shorter than S Koreans because of the lack of food in 60 years of leftist glorious leaders.

Time to finish cooking for tonights get together we are having in the back yard. In addition to the awesome deck he built, the carpenter created a really unique "ring of fire," the family will be sitting around while enjoying each others company and toasting marshmallows.

Enjoy the afternoon, everyone.

Posted by Sally-* on September 27, 2008 at 04:35 PM

lap dancers can´t think that far

Sally, Sally, Sally...if you hate blacks so much...why do you seem to fantasize about them so often??

mammalicious on September 27, 2008 at 04:14 PM

It's not just blacks, mamma...Poor Sally just can't seem to stop wishing he could have sex with human beings again...but people take one look at his rotting Cryptkeeper flesh and run screaming, so he has to settle for Rosy and her five sisters...maybe occasionally getting a chance to stick it in a knothole in a tree (although I've heard those even pull up their roots and run when they see him coming.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbc0BkjgzRY&NR=1

Sally you may want to look at this.

God I LOVE that this shit is on tape forever and ever so when the denials start from the minions we just have to put up the links.

You really are that stupid aren't you?

N Koreans are on the average 3" shorter than S Koreans because of the lack of food in 60 years of leftist glorious leaders.

286Sally-* on September 27, 2008 at 04:35 PM

So...then why are Ethiopians so tall? If your theory held true...all those starving people would be the size of hobbits! I guess you learned creationism in school, not actual science?

...you dolt!

Sally your pals sould have told you that it is better to keep your mouth shut and have people THINK you're a moron, than to open your mouth and let them KNOW you are one.

Saracuda vs. "Feminist" Piranhas

Bruce Walker explains the difference between the personification of true feminism, Sarah Palin, and the rabid moonbat "feminists" who denounce her with such hatred:

What we have been taught to call "feminism" today has nothing to do with original feminism. The pseudo-feminism of NOW is simply the Ladies Auxiliary of modern Leftism. When Clinton brutally raped a woman, where were these feminists? No where. When radical Moslems right now treat women in ways that would have horrified Americans two centuries ago, where is the support for American troops in Iraq and Afghanistan? Again, no where. When a woman, lovingly supported by her husband, builds a career as a reformer against a corrupt political machine, where are the pseudo-feminist cheer leaders of the Democrat Party? Cheer leading for Obama, the product of a corrupt political machine.

What the original feminists had and what Sarah Palin has is what the pseudo-feminist party hacks lack: Principles. Feminism was based not upon the proposition of advancing "women's issues," but upon [advancing] principles of individual equality. The platform for these principles was not the Democrat Party Platform but the Judeo-Christian moral tradition of divinely created human souls. Feminism was concerned above all with the process of fairness, not the equivalence of result.

Like the civil rights movement in general, feminism has been corrupted into something its founders would not have wanted any part of.

Good afternoon, all.

We just got back from another terrific canvassing experience.

If you haven't done this before you should. It's wonderful to knock on a door and hear Republicans so angry at Bush and their Congressional reps over this Wall Street bail out.

And the lovely Sarah is turning off Republican women in droves. Even those Catholic women who usually vote one issue/anti-abortion were shaking their heads and saying No way, No how, No Palin.

Iraq, the economic meltdown, and Palin...the Axis of Republicans Evils.

It was like a litany repeated back to us time and time again...by Republicans of all people. The cement that used to hold together that GOP coalition is cracked and crumbling.

To think that Palin has become a Democratic wedge issue...courtesy of McSame. Thank you very much, John. You've made voters wonder about your age and your judgment.

"What was he thinking?" How many times have I heard that from these new "Independents?" in the last few week.

And the Undecided? They're finally getting off the fence and saying they've had enough. McCain shouldn't have acted so glib and cavalier the last two weeks...and especially in that debate last night.

And Democrats? They're proudly asking for yard signs. They all want their neighbors to know who they are again.

It's now very clear to everyone that McCain remembers all the fatal mistakes made since Hoover...but hasn't learned a thing from any of them.

God I LOVE that this shit is on tape forever and ever so when the denials start from the minions we just have to put up the links.
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mammalicious on September 27, 2008 at 04:49 PM

Your video proves exactly what I said. What is your point?

mammalicious on September 27, 2008 at 04:54 PM

It is not a theory it is a fact. Duh

The N and S Koreans are the same people. The S Koreans eat well because they live in a Democracy. The N Koreans eat slop or nothing because they live in the ultimate of leftist societies.

In France, President Nicolas Sarkozy says the death knell has rung for freewheeling, U.S.-style capitalism. German's finance minister calls it downright "dangerous." Even the leader of more Wall Street-friendly Britain says financiers need closer watching, maybe on a global scale.

The crisis has put new momentum behind measures to be unveiled by the European Commission on Oct. 1 that include plans to strengthen rules on the capital that banks must hold back and the way credit rating agencies are overseen. Other measures being pushed by some European leaders in response to the crisis include bans on short selling of securities and tighter controls on executive compensation. The European Parliament called this week for tighter controls on hedge funds and private equity investors, an idea so far rejected by top EU officials.

Crisis boosts urge to regulate in Europe

Esmeralda on September 27, 2008 at 04:36 PM

Essie,

Before all the craziness starts, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for all your efforts in trying to make this election run smoothly and efficiently in your state.

You and other election officials have an important but difficult job walking the line while still making sure you get the job done right.

I'm glad to hear your family are getting though your personal loss by pulling closer to one another.

God's peace to you all.

You looked at the link...so then you saw her IMPLYING that she sold it on eBay...and you also saw McCain outright stating that she SOLD it on eBay.

So it is just McCain that's the liar...and Palin is the Missleader.

Could you get me the scientific study where N. Koreans/S. Koreans were measured and the difinitive finding was that democracy makes one taller.

It was a retarded statement to toss out during a serious debate.

Could you get me the scientific study where N. Koreans/S. Koreans were measured and the difinitive sp finding was that democracy makes one taller.

It was a retarded statement to toss out during a serious debate.

Posted by mammalicious on September 27, 2008 at 05:34 PM

Lack of food and proper nourishment makes one shorter. Try it your self. Give birth to two childrren. Feed one of them good food and serve the other N Korea type slop or nothing some days and then see which one grows taller.

Could you get me the scientific study where N. Koreans/S. Koreans were measured and the difinitive sp finding was that democracy makes one taller.

It was a retarded statement to toss out during a serious debate.

Posted by mammalicious on September 27, 2008 at 05:34 PM

Lack of food and proper nourishment makes one shorter. Try it your self. Give birth to two children. Feed one of them good food and serve the other N Korea type slop or nothing some days and then see which one grows taller.

Giuliani sets up firm ‘to cash in on Wall Street’s train wreck,’ then joins McCain for tonight’s debate.»

Giuliani flew to Memphis this afternoon with Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), on the way to tonight’s presidential debate. Giuliani “is positioning his law firm to cash in on Wall Street’s train wreck,” according to the New York Daily News.

The former mayor announced yesterday that his firm, Bracewell & Giuliani, would set up a task force “to help corporate clients get a piece of the action — or keep federal wolves from the door,” as the Daily News put it...

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/26/giuliani-bailout/

The greedy, opportunistic Republican leadership is circling the rotting corpse that their President is asking us to buy with their eye on making a profit?

Who would have guessed that this would happen?

"Lack of food and proper nourishment makes one shorter. Try it your self. Give birth to two children. Feed one of them good food and serve the other N Korea type slop or nothing some days and then see which one grows taller."

careful with this ... height is more genetics. lack of body mass is a better indicator.

suppose the argument is north korea and mccain's big edge in national issues...

well in case you haven't noticed, or doing a number to change the focus of an average american, it's the economy.

most americans are not concerned with measuring koreans. they're more interested in putting food on the table, gas in their tanks, and keeping the house...

something mccain doesn't understand w/13 cars and 7 houses, or doesn't remember.

watching the debate last nite with an open mind, he never really connected w/me... one small house, one car i'm glad still runs, and eating at home vs eating out to eat healthy.

IT'S THE ECONOMY (AGAIN). i'll worry about the koreans after americans are fed, including children. including those still recovering from katrina and ike....

It's the ECONOMY and MCCain doesn't have a CLUE

hello

Thanks for correcting my spelling...since I am sure you never made a mistake. But again...you avoided the ACTUAL question. How does DEMOCRACY make one taller??

And the fact that it was a ridiculous item to toss out in a serious debate.

Yep...McCains' understanding is that 'what do you mean you don't have money...just go to the bank and get some out!'

So now we have to worry about Halloween candy for our kids and cupcakes for their school parties?

Tainted milk crisis hits more global companies

Sep 27,

By ELAINE KURTENBACH

SHANGHAI, China (AP) - Snackers, beware: Your favorite chocolate or creamy treats might contain milk contaminated with melamine.

The list of companies facing potential recalls grew Friday as reports of foods tainted with the industrial chemical melamine, which has been blamed in the deaths of four Chinese infants, spread to a widening range of products.

Food companies around the globe are rushing to assess their products and in some cases setting new strategies to prevent problems.

"We have to think about any processed food with milk or protein in it," said James Rice, a food industry veteran who is now China country manager for Tyson Foods Inc. (TSN), the world's largest meat processor.

Many food companies already were taking special precautions before Chinese milk suppliers were found to be adding melamine to watered-down milk to boost its apparent protein content. The chemical, which is high in nitrogen, can fool tests aimed at verifying protein levels. The compromised dairy products are blamed for sickening 54,000 children...

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080927/D93F1MIO0.html

(Emphasis mine.)

So first the Republicans outsourced these jobs and factories to China and now they are not overseeing the products that are sent back to our country for consumption?

54,000 sick children in China? How many more will be affected here? There is just no excuse for the incompetence and complete lack of concern for the public health.

Who are these Republicans who didn't think once about the consequences of their greedy globalization trade policies?

But again...you avoided the ACTUAL question. How does DEMOCRACY make one taller??

Posted by mammalicious on September 27, 2008 at 06:00 PM

Well duh, the freedom of a Democracy allows one to prosper and afford good food which is readily available. Good food is not available in N Korea unless you personally know the blessed leader.

"The greedy, opportunistic Republican leadership is circling the rotting corpse that their President is asking us to buy with their eye on making a profit?"

MCCAIN IS FOR GIULIANI. THAT'S A GIVEN.

Giuliani flew to Memphis this afternoon with Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), on the way to tonight’s presidential debate. Giuliani “is positioning his law firm to cash in on Wall Street’s train wreck,” according to the New York Daily News.

MCCAIN IS NOT FOR MAINSTREET. THAT'S A GIVEN.

How is everyone doing today?
Did ya'll watch the debate last night?

I'm not sure I understand the debate. I would agree that democracy is better for people (in general). But that is not absolutely true. I believe Hitler was elected in a democratic election. I suspect there are some non-democracies that take better care of their people than some democracies.

Could voters been so disgusted by the Bush economic bailout that they didn't care to hear what McCain had to say about coming to the rescue this week? Or what he had to say about foreign policy?

September 27, 2008

McCain-Obama debate pulls average early rating

The first debate between John McCain and Barack Obama is on track to pull a surprisingly average viewership number, drawing fewer households in the preliminary ratings than George W. Bush's face off against John Kerry four years ago.

In the meter-market overnights, Friday night's 90-minute debate in Mississippi received a preliminary household rating of 33.2, according to Nielsen Media Research.

That's 16% lower than the national number from the 2004 debate, which aired on a Thursday -- generally TV's most-watched night of the week. Friday's number is only slightly above George W. Bush and Al Gore's first debate in 2000 and the Clinton-Dole debate in 1996...

The first 1980 bout between Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter still holds the record as the most-viewed televised presidential debate, with a 58.9 household rating and 80.6 million viewers...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/presidential_debate_analysis

If the Republicans can't support their own president's plan or the House Republican plan, I say shelf them both.

Let the Republicans explain how the meltdown happened after 15 years of their Congressional stewardship and why they are just posturing now to fix it.

Roy Blunt is a Hatchet Man like Tom De Lay not a statesman. He's only in those negotiations to find a way for his Party to weasel out of taking the blame and distancing themselves from Bush. Don't trust him.

And whatever our Congressional Dems do, don't vote for something that they won't vote for. Make them blink or walk away from it altogether.

It's very good to be able to get on the blog again. I have been unable to post for weeks now. Some sort of technical difficulty. It is frustrating to read the blog and want to make a comment but be unable to get the comment to post.

chicago,

what would be your thoughts about holding an election on a weekend, sat and sun.

as to a democracy, it's better in general, but monies rule. so does sleaze and politics ... turning many voters off. except this time the economy is the elephant for the repubs.

"Or go play with each others pickles?"

?

Chicago on September 27, 2008 at 06:33 PM

Chicago,

Good to see you back. What's on your mind?

Some sort of technical difficulty.

chicago, yea, sorta tricky. i have to hit preview, and at times have to log back in.

so what does the current president do while congress convenes...(cnn now reporting)

planting trees around the white house and then going for a bike ride.

reminds me of a fishing trip during katrina.

I wonder how all those moron, misinformed voters felt last night when barack said there is a bill with a compromise on off shore drilling that mccain and the rest of the crooks with an R by their name won't vote for because there are NO tax breaks for big oil in the bill.

HA, see stupids, we are always right and you are always stupid.

yes dan that is correct the democrats are going to make the republicans eat their words about free markets regulating themselves and how it is always best to just let the markets fix things on their own. and when we are done dan all that ayn rand, milton friedman bullshit will be down the toilet forever....hahahahaha

Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on September 27, 2008 at 07:46 PM

Yes isn't it ironic that the supply side, trickle down economics of the republicans is coming home to roost, while the dems have a tie in the senate. We should just stay home and do nothing, let the "sucker" crash.

Since when did being the responsible party pay off with the bulk of the uninformed voter.

Below is the link of US senators, we have 49, 50 if you count bernie sanders. Of course lieberman is a republican. Correct me if I'm wrong here, we don't have congress, it's a tie.
see below
^ http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm?OrderBy=party&Sort=ASC

Maybe in the gargoyle world.

228Sally-* on September 27, 2008 at 03:25 PM

That reminded me. Has your daughter sailed off to Iraq yet? Hopefully that stunted, fat hipped body did not keep her out. That would be a shame, with her Father thinking this Iraqi Occupation is keeping us all so safe!!!

The Democrats, who control both the House and the Senate, could have passed their bill without a single Republican vote.

Idiot Republicans ! We are damned if we don't try any partisianship, we are damned if we do! Yeah, don't try and get a concensus on an Important Issue like this. Just go ahead and shove it down their throats, and hear them roar!
You guys are dumber than dirt! And older!!!
No wonder you like McCain !

Good night Dems. Blog ya tomorrow. Glad to see the various polls and articles today, that all agreed that Obama came out looking better than senile McCain. He thought those smirks were so superior------they made him look like they just let him out of the State Mental Hospital!

What is so unnerving about the candidacy of Sarah Palin is the degree to which she represents—and her supporters celebrate—the joyful marriage of confidence and ignorance. Watching her deny to Gibson that she had ever harbored the slightest doubt about her readiness to take command of the world's only superpower, one got the feeling that Palin would gladly assume any responsibility on earth:

"Governor Palin, are you ready at this moment to perform surgery on this child's brain?"

"Of course, Charlie. I have several boys of my own, and I'm an avid hunter."

"But governor, this is neurosurgery, and you have no training as a surgeon of any kind."

"That's just the point, Charlie. The American people want change in how we make medical decisions in this country. And when faced with a challenge, you cannot blink."

The prospects of a Palin administration are far more frightening, in fact, than those of a Palin Institute for Pediatric Neurosurgery. Ask yourself: how has "elitism" become a bad word in American politics? There is simply no other walk of life in which extraordinary talent and rigorous training are denigrated. We want elite pilots to fly our planes, elite troops to undertake our most critical missions, elite athletes to represent us in competition and elite scientists to devote the most productive years of their lives to curing our diseases. And yet, when it comes time to vest people with even greater responsibilities, we consider it a virtue to shun any and all standards of excellence. When it comes to choosing the people whose thoughts and actions will decide the fates of millions, then we suddenly want someone just like us, someone fit to have a beer with, someone down-to-earth—in fact, almost anyone, provided that he or she doesn't seem too intelligent or well educated.

I believe that with the nomination of Sarah Palin for the vice presidency, the silliness of our politics has finally put our nation at risk. The world is growing more complex—and dangerous—with each passing hour, and our position within it growing more precarious. Should she become president, Palin seems capable of enacting policies so detached from the common interests of humanity, and from empirical reality, as to unite the entire world against us. When asked why she is qualified to shoulder more responsibility than any person has held in human history, Palin cites her refusal to hesitate. "You can't blink," she told Gibson repeatedly, as though this were a primordial truth of wise governance. Let us hope that a President Palin would blink, again and again, while more thoughtful people decide the fate of civilization.

Dan,

There is no Democratic bailout on the table.

There is Bush's proposal and the House Republican proposal. It's only fair that the people who got us into this mess get credit for the blame.

Let's face it. Bush cried wolf once too often. So the real trouble now is that there is a Crisis of Confidence in the country. The bottom 98% don't believe a thing they are being told by this Republican president after being lied to for eight years.

People have finally figured out that it was this Republican president and his Republican Congressional contingent who used their Contract with America to defraud the nation and wreck both its military and economic strength.

You deregulated the markets so the filthy rich could take the outrageous tax cuts you Republicans gave them to swindle everybody else in this country.

One dirty, greedy hand was washing the other.

We Democrats have been trying to protect the bottom 98% from as much of the fallout as we can. We are not proposing any solution. Just offering some oversight.

If you Republicans don't agree to a bi-partisan bill which you ALL agree to vote for, this thing lands at your feet dead on arrival come Monday morning.

What happens after that is also your fault come November 4.

"We should just stay home and do nothing, let the "sucker" crash."

It's going to crash anyway, no matter what they do now. Something should have been done four years ago. There's no way to stop this train wreck, and they know it. All they are trying to do is save their friends.

Go to YouTube and search for "Jim Rogers." He'll give you the straight dope on this situation. Also do a Google search on "ecomonists opposed to the bailout." Lots of good information there, too.

Video of Letterman, Day 2 of slamming McLame-o for dissing him:

Letterman Taunts McCain, Day 2

What a putz.

McCain never showed up at Capitol Hill for bailout negotiations today.»

After declaring he’d return to Washington to help with the bailout negotiations immediately after last night’s debate, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) never went to Capitol Hill today. In fact, McCain stayed largely holed up in his Arlington apartment, leaving only to go to his campaign headquarters just around the block, the New York Times reports:

Asked why Mr. McCain did not go to Capitol Hill after coming back to Washington to help with negotiations, [McCain adviser] Mr. Salter replied that “he can effectively do what he needs to do by phone.’

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/27/mccain-in-arlington/

So McCain didn't have to go back to Washington or call off the debate after all. Some people have one of those new fangled inventions called a cell phone that he could have kept in his pocket and answered at any time.

But then he still uses a land line and maybe smoke signals? Or two cans with a string?

hello

wow, I finally signed in. It's been 2 months and I finally figured it out. geesh, a lot has happened. Of course, it finally works when we're sitting at a post every 30 minutes.

Posted by SandyH on September 27, 2008 at 10:23 PM

Haven't you heard? The reason John "The LIAR" McLame-o doesn't know how to use a computer is because he was a (drum roll, now.....) POW.

Check out the Google page

Even though he invented the BlackBerry he can't dial a touch tone phone or change the channel on his 700 billion TVs.

Because he was a POW and all. Just ask all the trolls. They have ALL the answers and explanations.

Which doesn't stop him from using">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/12/yes-mccain-can-use-electr_n_126130.html">using a BlackBerry AND a cell phone at the same time, while driving one of his 700 Billion cars.

can I post with a differnt name, or did I now screw it up?

well karen signing in has become a bit of a rubic's cube. first you climb a telephone pole holding a tube tester in your teeth and roach clip attached to your ear....good to see you!

apparently not. I cannot change my name. can I still post?

dooB2doo - how's chicago - thank the cubs for putting the Cards out of my misery.

This is Karen from Michigan, formerly from Oregon, blah blah blah

GREGG!!! How'd you know it was me?!!

sniff, sniff, seriously moved here.

Gregg, aren't you supposed to be duck-and-covering from the Nor'easter on its way?

HEY, Karen! LTNS!!

If you just want to read while waiting to post, after you log in, hit any key and then hit "preview". Scroll down through the garbage and old banners and the posts will all be there.

After you are in, though, DO NOT use the "back" button on your tool bar. ONLY use the "preview" thingy at the bottom of the comment box, and scroll down again to catch up.

Simple?

NO!

They are still working on things.

well this looks pretty with its new layout, but it's still buggy as H.E.double-hockey-sticks. Also, in my effort to get onto this blog again, I accidentally signed up for email updates, and then tried to unsubscribe a month ago when I was getting 4+ a day and I'm still getting the emails, but not able to effectively use this here blog-thing. geesh.

Had to vent. It's downright embarrassing how flawed this is. my blogspot works better, for goodness sakes!

btw, Gregg, I had to set aside those alligator clips - useful as they were - I have now made the switch from child welfare to dementia and Alzheimer's - imagine how it would look to be hanging from a pole riggin' up these here internets with those clips between my teeth - my clients would start offering ME advice! ;)

DooBee - is that with a full moon or a new moon, because tonight it's all over the place.

It is good to stop by and at least not see stinky trolls all over the place (did I jinx it?). It was funny one night - it was just two troll arguing with each other over who was more committed to the downfall of the Democrats. quite funny, actually.

HI!! I'm supposed to be at a democrat "barn bash" tonight, but instead I have a bit of glass stuck in my foot - can't imagine bashing a barn in this situation!

Anyway, imagine my delight to find FRIENDS here!!

karen i find the blog sign in really weird. sometimes if i go to preview and resign in it helps but it really seems to take random flailing about to work. then other times i am on for hours and can't log off. curious.

anyhow over at redsnakes they are getting real nervous and feel mcbush should let sarah be sarah...instead of whoever she is being which near as i can tell is a failed actress who once got to read for a part in valley girls...

from red state,
"SAZMD, you have it exactly right. Sarah's best selling point is Sarah. Surely, she has her own opinions of things, and I've seen her show complete capability to express those opinions.

The love and admiration that so many have expressed for her since she was selected is as much for her as a person than any positions she holds. (Of course, we in the base love her positions on life, guns, etc., but we're looking for independent votes now.) If she comes across as herself (i.e. relaxed, witty, charming, intelligent, REAL), many will like her regardless of whether she is towing the "McCain line" or not. And that probably includes McCain himself. If she contradicts him on some (perceived) major issue, John can just say "I'm proud to have an independent-thinking maverick on the ticket with me."

Anyone, ANYONE, who reads this site who has any connection to the McCain/Palin team, pass on this message to them. Please. PLEASE. PRETTY PLEASE!"

doh, spoke too soon.

Financial collapse - I was pushing for the idea of buying up all outstanding mortages - probably cheaper than the current proposal. Of course, it helps with poor folk like me who don't have a dime in the stock market - just another series of 0's and 1's that are largely meaningless to me, except that they are only guaranteeing my current poverty level. Then again, I recently talked to my host "family" from my semester in Zimbabwe - things could definitely be worse. Stocking up on those Canadian coins that get passed off so frivolously here in Michigan - I'm sure that will get my kids through college.

ok, ending my current babble now.

karen, sounds like you are doing good works. the hurricane is going way north of here and out on the coast. maine is supposed to get hit. weird.

i knew it was you because i can receive people's individual photon emission patterns in the small devices the aliens implanted in my molars...

Gregg - the Palin-Couric interview, sadly, was more entertaining than the debate last night. Not to say I didn't think Obama was ingenious for waiting until attacked, and then fighting back with, whaddaya call 'em, oh yeah, facts. But the shear entertainment value of watch COURIC, of all people, being horrified by the vapid nothingness that erupted from Palin was really worth You-Tubing over and over again.

oops, I mean, it is sooooo refreshing to see Palin come into her own and showcase her amazing ability to tell it like it is... is that the message we're encouraging Republicans to report? ;D

Doo-b!! Preview works SOOO much better than "refresh" THANK YOU!!

I'm posting a lot, randomly, and quickly, before I get booted out for another couple of months.

LOVING Obama's poll numbers here in Michigan - wish they were higher, but they will be when it counts, with what I know of the GOTV efforts here - folks will be surprised with the inner city turnout in Detroit, that's all I'm saying...

Damn me and my photon emissions!!! And you should really look into those clear/white fillings that they have now with the dentists - I am guessing you are agreeing that it's the dentists that are the aliens - certainly fits here!! :)

I had an ongoing debate with my mother during the debate. Seems Alabama has seeped into her normally liberal mind. Sheesh, she used to work for Legal Aid Society, and now she's just sure that McCain is going to win. I think REAL alligators have clipped her intelligence down there in the swamp of her 1.5 acres. In any event, she did concede that McCain made her twitch a bit when his comments reminded her of Bush one-liners. If only we could have a debate every week...

Anyway, how ARE you?!!

KAren, I knew it was you from the git-go.
The Chubbies are OK now it looks like dorsano's Twinkies will beat the (hated) White Sox for their Division.

Doesn't matter to me one way or the other. As Ernie Banks said and Jack Brickhouse stole, "Hey ANY team can have a bad Century". Well, it's 2008. The 100 year drought has about 1 month to go. The Angels will go all the way and now we will have to wait for another great tear jerker song about "lovable losers" to be written.

Some Day We'll Go All The Way". (Eddie Vedder from "Pearl Jam")

So the cactus is sally, or is it the person who was debating sally the other week. whatever.

babble babble babble

scroll, scroll, scroll the troll
gently off the screen
merrily merrily merrily merrily
jerk-offs wear tight jeans...

karen, yes sarah has made me believe in god again because we would never had been granted such a gift in this election if there wasn't a god.

meanwhile tina fey was on snl as sarah again tonight but i missed it.

see you tomorrow or whenever the chrono-synclastic infundibulum bring you and kazak back this way...

good night.

DooB2doo- well, this year I've actually been rooting for the Cubs all year (unbeknown to the hubby - the HORROR) since the Cards crashed and burned back in April. I would LOOOOOVE to see the Cubs vs. the zit-stadium's (I mean the Twinkies). Sad year, really, for folks around me - Tigers and Cards - is there another team more disappointing? ooops, sorry gregg!! :D Then again, Cubs vs Tampa?!!! crazy, crazy

Karenhowdoyousignin:
I have had the best luck (doesn't always work but more often than not) by first signing out. Then going through preview to sign in. You may have to repeat the process a second time but that usually does it for me.

But, what I came to say
TINA FEY on SNL
I love Tina Fey.
Tina does Palin better than Palin does. Tina actually gives the woman some measure of actual (not manufactured) charm!
Tina Fey is so very talented!

goodnight, Gregg! Nice "seeing" you!

take care, until I am allowed back onto this hallowed forum

Thanks, Ms. Memphis!!

I will have to YouTube Tina tomorrow! I actually was putzing around trying to get on here for a few minutes to kill time before SNL. Little did I know I'd actually get on for once! and then get distracted and miss SNL. Ah well, it was worth it.

And thanks for the advice. That's actually how I managed to finally do it tonight for the first time in months - sign out - sign in - get "errored" - sign out - sign in - change my name - get rejected - sign out - sign in - and it worked!! weird.

Anyway, I will try to remember this process, especially as it appears to have worked for others. Thanks again.

I guess I'd better sleep. I have to go to a church tomorrow and talk to the members about Alzheimer's Disease, and how to maintain your brain!! Sleep ranks pretty high up there, actually.

Goodnight. Hopefully talk to you soon!

good night music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-rjbuYTSaU&feature=related

G'Nite, gregg
G'Nite, Karen

Here is the "October Surprise!!!"

The romantic wedding of the Century!

(from a link at TPM)

In an election campaign notable for its surprises, Sarah Palin, the Republican vice- presidential candidate, may be about to spring a new one — the wedding of her pregnant teenage daughter to her ice-hockey-playing fiancé before the November 4 election.

Inside John McCain’s campaign the expectation is growing that there will be a popularity boosting pre-election wedding in Alaska between Bristol Palin, 17, and Levi Johnston, 18, her schoolmate and father of her baby. “It would be fantastic,” said a McCain insider. “You would have every TV camera there. The entire country would be watching. It would shut down the race for a week.”

(more at link)

McCain camp prays for Palin wedding
The marriage of the vice-presidential candidate’s pregnant teenage daughter could lift a flagging campaign

THAT will keep her from talkin' doncha know.

Has anyone else noticed that MC Lipstick sounds like the entire cast in that scene from "Fargo" when Frances McDormand is talking with the 2 teenaged hookers in the burger joint?

They sound exactly like McNitwit.

ALL 3 of them. Doncha know? Yaaa. Ya think?

Who gives a crap about the wedding. It should be a private affair. Palin should cover it up, like she used her own baby to cover up the pregnancy to begin with, literally.

What the country is supposed to forget it's bankruptcy and turn all of their attention to, Oh look,how sweet this shotgun wedding is. The epitime of a match made in heaven. NOT

I declare, I just cannot wait for the debate between the lovely and talented Sarah and the bumbling Biden. It will be a hoot to see her destroy him.

"Stand up Chuck -Stand up -- Oh what am I talking about".

Lack of food and proper nourishment makes one shorter. Try it your self. Give birth to two childrren. Feed one of them good food and serve the other N Korea type slop or nothing some days and then see which one grows taller.
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Sally-* on September 27, 2008 at 05:38 PM

that won´t work at all. Libs suffer from an uncontrolable urge to abort.

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PamB on September 27, 2008 at 09:23 PM

I bet you´re 3 in shorter than the average north korean.

I declare, I just cannot wait for the debate between the lovely and talented Sarah and the bumbling Biden. It will be a hoot to see her destroy him.

I would laugh if she just walked up to him, kicked him in the balls, and asked him if he has anything to say. Yes sir, a hot intelligent woman that can hunt, fish and take care of themselves. Hillary would never have been able to keep up with our Lovely Sarah.

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PamB on September 27, 2008 at 03:09 PM

of course you were personal friends with himyaddayaddayaddahe was always over to swim in your walmartpoolyaddayaddayadda

Gov. Blunt Statement on Obama Campaign's Abusive Use of Missouri Law Enforcement

JEFFERSON CITY - Gov. Matt Blunt today issued the following statement on news reports that have exposed plans by U.S. Senator Barack Obama to use Missouri law enforcement to threaten and intimidate his critics.

"St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch, St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce, Jefferson County Sheriff Glenn Boyer, and Obama and the leader of his Missouri campaign Senator Claire McCaskill have attached the stench of police state tactics to the Obama-Biden campaign.

"What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment.

"This abuse of the law for intimidation insults the most sacred principles and ideals of Jefferson. I can think of nothing more offensive to Jefferson's thinking than using the power of the state to deprive Americans of their civil rights. The only conceivable purpose of Messrs. McCulloch, Obama and the others is to frighten people away from expressing themselves, to chill free and open debate, to suppress support and donations to conservative organizations targeted by this anti-civil rights, to strangle criticism of Mr. Obama, to suppress ads about his support of higher taxes, and to choke out criticism on television, radio, the Internet, blogs, e-mail and daily conversation about the election.

"Barack Obama needs to grow up. Leftist blogs and others in the press constantly say false things about me and my family. Usually, we ignore false and scurrilous accusations because the purveyors have no credibility. When necessary, we refute them. Enlisting Missouri law enforcement to intimidate people and kill free debate is reminiscent of the Sedition Acts - not a free society.

Brockovich praises Palin; lefties fume

Erin Brockovich is a liberal darling. She's foul-mouthed and sexed-up, and she took on a big corporation on behalf of the little people and the "environment". Hollywood made a movie about her starring Julia Roberts, and now Erin Brockovich is livin' the high life, beloved by liberals everywhere.

Until she had the nerve to say something positive about Sarah Palin. Oh, the outrage!

Although she rates herself as a leading environmentalist, she is extremely keen on Sarah Palin, the huntin', shootin' Alaskan governor running for vice president with the Republican candidate John McCain.

Environmentalists have painted Palin as the arch-enemy, to the right of Bush, because until last week she was denying climate change had anything to do with man, thought polar bears could go live on land and wants to see the Arctic drilled to within a quart of its oil.

But Palin is also being called the "Erin Brockovich of Alaska" and last week, on her blog, Brockovich came close to endorsing Palin. "Sure, she may be loud. So am I," she said. "Sometimes you've got to scream to get anyone to hear you. So what if her 17-year-old is pregnant? None of us should judge Sarah Palin for anything but her own actions."

What about her wanting to drill the arctic reserve? What about the bears and wolves that Palin shoots?

"No buts," says Brockovich. "The fact is that Sarah Palin positively emanates strength. She gives off the aura of being a strong woman who doesn't back down, and she does it sporting heels and wearing her family like a badge of honour. I am sure there are a million other women out there who are doing the same thing."

The blogosphere went wild, with people applauding or accusing. She denies moving to the right, pointing out that she's a registered Democrat, and says she'd be elated if asked to work with the Democrats. "But it's not about politics. I don't pick a person because they are a Republican or a Democrat but for the person. I like Obama. I like McCain. Both have strong points".

Her real beef is neither capitalism nor industry, Democrats nor Republicans, she says, but greed.

Look, I don't buy that Erin Brockovich is some kind of miracle worker and I don't buy the hype. I personally think that she exploited residents of Hinkley to get tons of cash out of a big corporation, all in the name of the little guy, even though it turns out the science is against her. But I don't hate her because I happen to disagree with her. I certainly don't think she has no right to live.

The DUmmies, though, do.

And all because she committed the cardinal sin of saying some nice about Sarah Palin.

billyoc: What is she, the Joe Lieberman of the Green Party? Don't they have their own candidate for Prez? Oh, wait. She's from Kansas.

Warren Stupidity: Who would have thought that Erin would be this stupid?

Windy: think of Erin Brockovich's roots. she relates to Palin because she came from nowhere with little education and became famous...

Some people can excell without education as they are born with a certain intellectual level that is inherited. Palin does not have it. It is evident that she lacks basic critical reasoning and logic skills.

Palin is not bright. Its too bad that Brockovich doesn't see that.

notadmblnd: I don't know, I think it's more an attitude of... we former bimbos have got to stick together.

Demeter: Then Brockovich Isn't Too Bright Either and they are both too ignorant to live.

jrockford: She was in those beauty competitions too...and quite the FRAUD

torbird: This is a woman who got depositions by showing her tits. She just EMANATES strength...from her boobs.

For libtards like these, you aren't allowed to give any kind of credit or praise to the "enemy". And if you do, you're automatically castigated and shunned. If Brockovich wants to keep her label as a progressive darling, she'd better start apologizing, quick. Liberals don't accept opposing viewpoints. The left doesn't tolerate intellectual diversity. And that's why they've turned on Erin Brockovich. She didn't even endorse Sarah Palin. She just said positive things about her, which is enough for her to be told that she's too ignorant to live.

Henry Kissinger has already weighed in on a subject touched upon during the debates. The Weekly Standard reports: “Henry Kissinger believes Barack Obama misstated his views on diplomacy with US adversaries and is not happy about being mischaracterized. He says: ‘Senator McCain is right. I would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level. My views on this issue are entirely compatible with the views of my friend Senator John McCain. We do not agree on everything, but we do agree that any negotiations with Iran must be geared to reality.’”

"George Bush has dug us into a deep hole. John McCain was carrying the shovel."

Sen. Obama @ rally in in Greensboro, N.C.

US House approves historic India nuclear deal

The House of Representatives Saturday passed a civilian nuclear pact with India that lifts a three decade-old ban on civilian nuclear trade with India.

Negotiators reach breakthrough on bailout

Following marathon talks, congressional negotiators early Sunday announced that a framework had been established for a $700 billion Wall Street rescue plan.
Emerging at 12:28 a.m. from a nine-hour meeting in House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (D-Calif.) office, principal negotiators said they expect to put the finishing touches on a deal later in the day.

yes another great week for the pelicans. palin was humiliated again, mcbush lost the debate helping obama make further inroads with independents and undecideds and they were forced to toss their idiotic economic ideology under the bus and sign on to the "bail out the bush economic disaster" plan. oh and they tanked in the polls.

yeah the trolls are right this was a great week for the pelicans...hahahahahaha

i am not sure if this is really an idea put forth by the mcbush campaign or a joke from the leftosphere...could the mcbush campaign really be planning a big shotgun wedding up in alaska for the palin kid and her "proud to be a red neck" back seat beau? can you picture cindy dripping diamonds and the best man dripping white lightning? gosh i hope this is for real...could do wonders for the condom industry.

would laugh if she just walked up to him, kicked him in the balls, and asked him if he has anything to say. Yes sir, a hot intelligent woman that can hunt, fish and take care of themselves. Hillary would never have been able to keep up with our Lovely Sarah.p>

373The_Evil_Dr*Burd on September 28, 2008 at 04:10 AM216p>

it took about nine tries to get on this blog this morning. there is no rhyme or reason to the process just a lot of random behavior...kinda like the mcbush campaign.

A Great Review of the Debate!!!

" The McCain camp, researching past debates, obviously came to the conclusion that aggression wins. John Kennedy and Ronald Reagan were aggressive when they won their debates, but their attacks were tempered by their charm.

McCain had no charm Friday night. He was snide. He was mean. He was all attack, and all over the lot. It is easy to see that his demeanor could have put off a lot of people.

Obama was calm but passionate in the way he stood his ground. He answered McCain but didn't sink to his level. He looked like a man who could be president, which undoubtedly was his goal when the debate began.

http://www.truthout.org/092708A

obama takes a grownup position. seems the democrats had a little surprise for mcbush in the big meeting thursday at the white house forcing him to declare whether he was with the "the answer is more deregulation" bozos from the house republican side or with bush and paulson....mcbush got flustered and stormed out refusing to appear in front of the press...or maybe he just needed to get fitted for his snow mobile outfit for the palin kid's wedding?

"Sep 28th, 2008 | WASHINGTON -- Barack Obama says bailing out Wall Street bankers is necessary to keep the U.S. economy from crumbling even further and taking American workers down with it.

In a statement Sunday, the Democratic presidential nominee said, "regardless of how we got here, a failure to deal with the current crisis would have devastating consequences for our economy, costing millions of Americans their jobs and retirement security."

Obama says he pressed for several provisions that were in the agreement, including oversight by an independent board and measures to help homeowners stay in their homes.

He said that when taxpayers are asked to take such an "extraordinary step because of the irresponsibility of a relative few, it is not a cause for celebration. But this step is necessary."

Obama said that if he's elected president, he'll order a review to ensure the plan is working."

here's another one:

"Here's the politically incorrect way of phrasing one of the central questions about tonight's presidential debate: Did John McCain come across as too much of a grumpy old man?

That might not be a nice question, but it's an important one. Americans like to vote for the nice guy, not the grumbling prophet of doom. Throughout the 90-minute debate, McCain seemed contemptuous of Obama. He wouldn't look at him. He tried to belittle him whenever possible -- how many times did he work "Senator Obama just doesn't understand" into his answers? His body language was closed, defensive, tense. McCain certainly succeeded in proving that he can be aggressive, but the aggression came with a smirk and a sneer.

http://www.truthout.org/092708B

McCain invoked Reagan how many times, trying to connect himself with him! " John McMean, you are no Ronald Reagan!" You are a small man.

good morning pam. obama still up by 6 points on the right wing rasmussen poll.

mcbush is a big gambler? likes to toss the bones...nice touch for a guy appealing to the christian right....i guess?

NYTimes:
McCain and Team Have Many Ties to Gambling Industry
By JO BECKER and DON VAN NATTA Jr.
Published: September 27, 2008

Senator John McCain was on a roll. In a room reserved for high-stakes gamblers at the Foxwoods Resort Casino in Connecticut, he tossed $100 chips around a hot craps table. When the marathon session ended around 2:30 a.m., the Arizona senator and his entourage emerged with thousands of dollars in winnings.

A lifelong gambler, Mr. McCain takes risks, both on and off the craps table. He was throwing dice that night not long after his failed 2000 presidential bid, in which he was skewered by the Republican Party’s evangelical base, opponents of gambling. Mr. McCain was betting at a casino he oversaw as a member of the Senate Indian Affairs Committee, and he was doing so with the lobbyist who represents that casino, according to three associates of Mr. McCain...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/us/politics/28gambling-web.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1222607179-iT+vI8pP0b7dF+/6HFNnSA

Oh, Danny boy, OF COURSE I VOTED FOR DODD! Shall I post the lists and lists of hundreds of criminal, corrupt, perverts in the Repug Party again? Shall I remind you, (who voted for Bush two times), of the corruption, crimes and dead 4200 US boys that HE has committed???

TRY NOT TO BE SO STUPID, WILL YOU? You give a bad name to Republicans who do have brains!

And please try and get some new material. Your use of other troll's past quotes, for instance bologna & Eggs, calling every new blogger Robert, etc, is very telling of a small mind! It is not OUR fault your party picked the Worst Candidate to run as President! that he is dropping more every day. That his pick of a VP was nothing more than a stunt that is now backfiring! Not our fault at all! So go to the McCain blog, and get your anger out there ! You old slug

bbiab, Dems.......

sarah is a truly a gift from god:

http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/couric-palin-open/704042/

who would want to be on the same blog and grouped together with the regular 8 hairballs?

395Dan_A_Cactus** on September 28, 2008 at 09:40 AM

The evidence is quite clear...you and Steve.

may I suggest we move to bull in china shop.

Good morning, al.

gregg on September 28, 2008 at 09:09 AM

gregg,

Bill Bennett's gambling addiction has been widely publicized. It's about time McCain's problem was made public, too.

These irresponsible GOP politicians have no sense of responsibility or self-control. If they want to roll the dice in a casino that's their business. But when it becomes part of a major political Party's platform it's time to condemn it...loudly and often.

This should be a new line of attack by our Dems.

The Republicans only offer governance by crisis management...with no safeguards or common sense restraint taken as a forethought. The RNC has repeatedly created chaos in the last 30 years not built lasting solutions to problems.

You don't have to look any further than the broken electrical grid and failing bridges to see what is wrong in all sectors of our society because of this risky Republican disregard for the common good.

Why should the American taxpayer allow a bunch of rich, irresponsible GOP playboys to continue threatening our future economic and military stability?

If they want a thrill, let them do what Bush Sr. does when he needs a reckless fix... jump out of airplanes.

btw, have you noticed that the McCain camp is now using a male voice over on its ads instead of that whiny woman? I guess they now realize that Palin is not working and they must appeal to authoritarian males again if they have any chance of winning.

So much for reaching out to Hillary's supporters?

good morning esmeralda.

i think i will avoid the trolls for awhile.

should i pick you up on my way to the big wedding in alaska? i will be hitch hiking of course.

LIKE I SAID, GOD MADE SO MANY STUPID PEOPLE !!!PamB on September

The old broad is preaching about hate again, and again and ever again. But posts compassionate posts like this:

Oh, and the story about the guy in Hartford hit by a hit and run, seems the guy was wearing a McCain button, so nobody really gave a shit ! Figure somebody that ignorant----well, what's the big loss?

take care, Dems. Blog ya tomorrow, and hope that things get ironed out here.
Posted by PamB on June 6, 2008 at 08:21 PM

Yes, the Old squirrelfaced Old woman is truly a compassionate dem.

more great news for the pelicans!! because just like the greater the damage deregulation of lending causes the more deregulation we need....the higher obama goes in the polls the more likely mcbush will win!!

National Rasmussen Tracking Obama 50, McCain 44 Obama +6

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on September 27, 2008 at 10:57 PM
I've known quite a few of the older motor sergeants, who couldn't type. The younger ones grew up using a computer keyboard. They still had to enter reports into a computer. They were two finger typists. A couple of them had memorized the keyboard and got reasonably fast.
If McInsane can use a blackberry, he can use a computer, all else is horse crap.

I am amazed at the ignorance of a statement like above, discussing Abortion of a fetus as something where 2 people made a mistake! Sarah Palin is against abortion for ANY reason. Do you call Rape a mistake that a female made? How about Incest. (Oh yeah, there is plenty of that around from Fathers and Brothers, as disgusting as it is to believe). These are some kinds of mistakes? What about those women who choose abortion , when they discover the fetus is badly disabled and deformed, will live a short painfilled life? You think God wants this fetus to be brought into this life? You think this is some kind of mistake? Maybe it was nature's and environmental mistake, but not a woman who is compassionate enough to end the pain before it begins.

God is paying attention, you know. the bible is filled with much much more about poverty and suffering than it is about any gays or aborting. In fact, Jesus never said one word about Abortion nor Gays! So before you go and make a vote, you think of What Would Jesus Really Do! You think Jesus would turn the other cheek on the elderly, the children, Veterans, US troops dying for a lie, the disabled, minorities and vote Republican? I think Not! Not the Jesus I know!

Posted by: PamB at September 1, 2008blog.christianitytoday.com/ctpolitics/2008/08/sarah_palins_fa.html

Likes like the wicked witch from CT also likes to troll Christian blogs just to get her jets a goin´. gee pammy, i believe that the jesus YOU KNOW is really called Belzebub.

"Why don't you just shoot him yourself, and save the travel expenses?"

Posted by PamB on August 10, 2005 at 11:27 AM

Somebody has a violent streak running through the veins.

ahhh the very religious, racist, war mongering, profane trolls are here to bring us messages they received directly from the lord....hallelujah!

Posted by gregg on September 28, 2008 at 11:20 AM

your words, not ours

O.K Let's review -- Republicans equal low wages, no benefits, ever-increasing and unpredictable price increases in fuel, transfer of America's industrial infrastructure to the Communist Chinese, militarized our civilian police forces, sent our military on a fool's errand in Iraq at the cost of thousands American soldiers dead and wounded, billions of dollars wasted with no hope of payback or return, shamefully blindsided by the collapse of the financial markets as shockingly as they were blindsided on 911.

I know it seems a long way away but if things keep getting worse, the silver lining to this long dark bush cloud we've been under would be the hope that during the national elections is November the Republican Party candidates would come in third.

Dan_A_Cactus** on September 28, 2008 at 10:30 AM

You guys just can't accept responsibility for anything you do, can you? It doesn't matter now.

It's your Republican economic crisis and your votes that will pass Bush's Republican bailout bill to fix it.

Dodd and Frank did the heavy lifting for you by cutting out as much of the crap that we know about. But with Bush still refusing to open up the books so we can audit them, how can we know what else may be wrong with HIS bill. Our Dems exercised what little oversight power you Republicans took away from Congress (until January).

But it will be you Republicans who own this GOP bailout not us.

And when the House Republicans reacted in desperation to offer a alternative GOP bill (which offers more deregulation and tax cuts for the wealthy), we all realized that you were just preparing for the worst on November 4. This crisis may well be your last chance in decades to act irresponsible and greedy at the expense of the Middle Class and Working Poor...so you jumped at the chance. So predictable.

It all comes down to this: You Republicans are now going to have to eat crow and vote to stab St. Reagan and his conservative ideology in the back...admitting in a public roll call vote that your conservative policies don't work.

You're going to be traitors to your own principles.

You will be publicly embracing Socialism after liquidating our Capitalist system and giving it away for nothing to Communists in China. This humiliation will be heaped on top of invading the wrong country and now being unceremoniously being booted out by the conquered in Iraq. You've also allowed Russia to get the upper hand in the world again. And you're going to lose both the White House and Congress because of your own greed and corruption.

What a bunch of heroes you guys turned out to be. It took you only eight years to destroy what 40 years of Atwater and Rove deception and lies worked so hard to set up.

Now you're going to put the final nail in your own coffin by voting for Bush's Republican Bailout and taking official blame for all of your economic incompetence.

I'd call that poetic justice.

bbl.

The next debate will be between vice presidential candidates -- is like comparing a Hummer to a Locomotive -- if there is anything left after the debate the Hummer and the Republican spinmeister's will say she won.

What's this? Newt Gingrich is on ABC Sunday Morning talking about inventing a whole new economic policy?

Grab your children and protect your women. Newt has come up with a new way to destroy your family's stability and it's financial future. Risky business remains the official Republican credo.

The Republicans haven't even been thrown out yet and they are already running a new scam? Why isn't this man in jail?

Thank goodness, the 2nd Amendment wasn't nullified by Bush, too. At least we still have guns to hold of these lying, cheating GOP thieves in their newest attempt to defraud the nation.

later.

Enjoy: Repo Trolls!

Indicted / Convicted/ Pled Guilty

* Eric G. Andell - deputy undersecretary in charge of newly created Office of Safe and Drug-Free Schools (previously senior adviser to Secretary of Education Rod Paige) - pleaded guilty to one count of conflict of interest for using government travel for personal causes and was sentenced to one year of probation, 100 hours of community service, and fined $5,000.

* Claude Allen - Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy- resigned, pled guilty to shoplifting from Target stores.

* Lester Crawford - Commissioner, FDA - resigned in late September 2005 after only two months on the job. On October 17th, he pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor counts, making a false writing and conflict of interest. On February 27, 2007, Crawford was sentenced to to three years of probation and was fined $90,000.

* Brian Doyle - Deputy Press Secretary, Department of Homeland Security - Resigned in wake of child sex scandal. Doyle was arrested on April 4th, 2006 and pleaded no contest on September 19, 2006 to seven counts of use of a computer to seduce a child and sixteen counts of transmitting harmful material to a minor. On November 17th, 2006 Brian Doyle was sentenced to five years in state prison and ten years of probation. He will also need to register as a sex offender.

* Steven Griles - Deputy Secretary at the Interior Department - is the highest-ranked administration official yet convicted in the Jack Abramoff scandal. In March 2007, Griles pleaded guilty to lying about his role in the Jack Abramoff scandal. Sentenced to 10 months incarceration.

* John T. Korsmo – Chairman of the Federal Housing Finance Board from 2002 to 2004 – pleaded guilty in 2005 to lying to the Senate and an inspector general. He swore he had no idea how a list of presidents for FHFB-regulated banks were invited to a fundraiser for his friend's congressional campaign. On the invites, Korsmo was listed as the "Special Guest." Got 18 months of probation and a $5,000 fine.

* Scooter Libby - Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff - resigned after being indicted for lying to a grand jury and investigators in connection with the investigation stemming from the leak of Valerie Wilson’s covert CIA operative's identity. Convicted on four of five counts, making him the highest-ranking White House official to be convicted of a felony since the Iran-contra scandal. Sentenced to thirty months imprisonment and a fine of $250,000. On July 2nd, after a judge decided that Libby would remain in prison during the appeals process, President Bush commuted Libby's sentence by removing the thirty months in prison.

* David Safavian - former head of the Office of Federal Procurement Policy at the Office of Management and Budget - convicted of lying to ethics officials and Senate investigators about his ties to lobbyist Jack Abramoff. On October 27, 2006, he was sentenced to 18 months in prison. He is currently appealing the ruling.

* Robert Stein - former comptroller and funding officer for the now disbanded Coalition Provisional Authority, Southern Central Region in Al-Hillah, Iraq - pleaded guilty to conspiracy, bribery, conspiracy to commit money laundering, possession of a machine gun, and being a felon in possession of a fire arm. On January 30, 2007 Stein was sentenced to nine years in prison and ordered to forfeit $3.6 million.

* Roger Stillwell - desk officer, Interior Department - pleaded guilty to failing to report Redskins tickets and free dinners from Jack Abramoff.

Resigned Due to Investigation, Pending Investigation or Allegations of Impropriety

* Philip Cooney - chief of staff, White House Council on Environmental Quality - a former oil industry lawyer with no scientific expertise, Cooney resigned after it was revealed he had watered down reports on global warming.

* George Deutsch - press aide, NASA - resigned amid allegations he prevented the agency's top climate scientist from speaking publicly about global warming.

* Michael Elston - chief of staff to Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty - announced his resignation on June 15, 2007. Despite allegations that he’d threatened at least four of the eight fired US Attorneys, McNulty said Elston had served the Justice Department "with distinction for nearly eight years."

* Kyle Dustin “Dusty” Foggo - appointed executive director of the CIA, the agency’s third-highest post, in October 2004 - resigned and was ultimately indicted on bribery charges related to the Duke Cunningham scandal.

* Alberto Gonzales - former Attorney General - resigned without explanation amidst investigations of the firings of U.S. Attorneys, the politicization of the Justice Department, warrantless surveillance, and the torture and mistreatment of detainees.

* Monica Goodling - former Justice Department liaison to the White House and senior counsel to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales - resigned on April 7, 2007 amidst the investigation of the firings of U.S. Attorneys.

* Michelle Larson Korsmo - deputy chief of staff, Department of Labor - Helped her husband (see John Korsmo, above) with his donor scam. Quietly left her Labor plum job in February 2004, about two weeks before news broke that she and her husband were the targets of a criminal probe.

* Howard "Cookie" Krongard - former State Department inspector general -- accused of not properly investigating State Department contractor fraud in Iraq and Afghanistan; of retaliating against whistleblowers in his own office; and of not telling the truth about his knowledge of his brother's ties with Blackwater, a State Department contractor. Faced with a possible perjury investigation, Howard Krongard resigned on December 7, 2007.

* Julie Macdonald - former deputy assistant secretary for fish, wildlife and parks at the Interior Department - resigned in May 2007 after an "inspector general's report found she had improperly leaked information to private organizations, bullied staff scientists and broken federal rules." The Department of the Interior is investigating many of her decisions regarding endangered species; so far seven have been overturned.

* Paul McNulty - Deputy Attorney General for the Department of Justice – resigned, after questions about his involvement in the U.S. attorney firings and his testimony to Congress about the firings.

* Richard Perle - Chairman, Defense Policy Board - resigned from Pentagon advisory panel amid conflict-of-interest charges.

* Susan Ralston - assistant, White House - resigned amidst revelations that she had accepted thousands of dollars in gifts from Abramoff without compensating him, counter to White House ethics rules.

* Janet Rehnquist - inspector general, Department of Health and Human Services - resigned on June 1, 2003 in the face of an investigation into her alleged efforts to block a politically dangerous probe on behalf of the Bush family.

* James Roche - secretary, U.S. Air Force - resigned in the wake of the Boeing tanker lease scandal, after it was revealed he had rather crudely pushed for Boeing to win a $23 billion contract.

* Kyle Sampson -former chief of staff for Attorney General Alberto Gonzales - resigned amidst the investigation of the firings of U.S. Attorneys.

* Joseph Schmitz - Inspector General, Defense - Resigned amid charges he personally intervened to protect top political appointees.

* Bradley Schlozman - resigned from his third and final post with the Justice Department after accusations of actively politicizing the department. He's currently under investigation by the Department's inspector general.

* Thomas Scully - Administrator, Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services - shortly after Scully resigned in 2003, an investigation by the Department of Health and Human Services inspector general found that Scully had pressured the agency's actuary to underestimate the full cost of the Medicare reform bill by approximately $100 billion until after Congress passed the bill into law. Scully was also hit with conflict of interest charges by the U.S. attorney's office for billing CMS for expenses incurred during a job search while he still headed the agency. He settled those charges by paying $9,782.

* David Smith - deputy assistant secretary for fish, wildlife, and parks, Interior Department - resigned on July 21, 2006 after shooting a buffalo and accepting its skeletal remains and meat as an illegal gratuity. He eventually paid over $3,000 for the dead buffalo, but only after the internal inquiry had commenced. The Department of Interior inspector general also noted in a May 16, 2006 report that Smith's involvement in the designation of Houston as a port of entry for imported wildlife in order to benefit a friend was inappropriate.

* John Tanner - Voting Rights Section Chief, Justice Department - resigned in December of 2007 and moved to the Office of Special Counsel for Immigration-Related Unfair Employment Practices. Already under suspicion for aiding efforts to politicize the voting section, the bumbling proponent of voter identification laws angered lawmakers with his comments that such laws actually discriminate against white voters because "minorities die first". Even more impressive was his apology for the comment. The DoJ's Office of Professional Responsibility is currently investigating his travel habits and those of his deputy.

* Sara Taylor - Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of Political Affairs at the White House, where she was Karl Rove´s top aide - resigned amidst the U.S. attorneys investigation and other probes of Rove´s alleged politicization of the government.

* Ken Tomlinson - Board Chairman, Corporation for Public Broadcasting; member, Broadcasting Board of Governors - resigned at the release of an inspector general report concluding he had broken laws in spending CPB money to hire politically connected consultants to search for "bias" without consulting the board. At BBG, a separate investigation found he was running a "horse racing operation" out of his office, and continuing to hire politically-wired individuals to do "consulting" work for him. After being nominated and serving another term, he finally stepped down from that spot earlier this year.

* Carl Truscott - Director, Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Bureau - resigned. A report by the Justice Department's inspector general found that Truscott wasted tens of thousands of dollars on luxuries, wasted millions on whimsical management decisions and violated ethics rules by ordering employees to help his nephew with a high school video project.

* Paul Wolfowitz - World Bank President - resigned in May 2007 after a committee report found that he broke ethics rules by giving his girlfriend a substantial raise.

Nomination Failed Due to Scandal

* Linda Chavez - nominated, Secretary of Labor - withdrew her nomination in January 2001 amidst revelations that an illegal immigrant lived in her home and worked for her in the early 1990s. Chavez blamed what she said were the "search-and-destroy" politics of Washington.

* Timothy Flanigan - nominated, Deputy Attorney General (also Alberto Gonzales’ top deputy at the White House) - withdrew his nomination in October 2005 amidst revelations that he'd worked closely with lobbyist Jack Abramoff when he was General Counsel for Corporate and International Law at Tyco, which was a client of Abramoff's.

* Bernard Kerik - nominated, Secretary, Department of Homeland Security - withdrew his nomination amidst a host of corruption allegations. Eventually pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor relating to improper gifts totaling tens of thousands of dollars while he was a New York City official in the late 1990's. Subsequently, on November 8, 2007, Kerik was indicted on sixteen counts for bribery, tax fraud, and false statements with a maximum sentence of 142 years and more than $5 million in fines. Kerik has pleaded not guilty. For a rundown of Kerik's myriad indiscretions, check out TPM's Ultimate Kerik Scandal List!.

* William Mercer - the former associate deputy attorney general and US Attorney for Montana - withdrew his nomination to be the permanent number three official at the Department of Justice on June 22, 2007 due to his role in the U.S. attorney firings.

* Hans von Spakovsky - Commissioner, FEC - nomination to another term after his recess appointment failed due to allegations that he'd worked at the Justice Department to suppress minority voter turnout.

Under Investigation But Still in Office

* Stuart Bowen - Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction (SIGIR) - was once admired for his successes while investigating allegations of waste and fraud in Iraq, but now employee allegations have prompted four government investigations into the Office of the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction (SIGIR).

* Lurita Doan - Administrator of the U.S. General Services Administration - still in office, despite investigations by both the Office of Special Counsel and the House oversight committee that found that Doan had "crossed the line" by suggesting that the GSA use its resources to help Republicans get elected.

* Alfonso Jackson - Secretary of Housing and Urban Development - following reports that Jackson told a business group in April 2006 that he once canceled a contract after the contractor criticized President Bush, an investigation by the HUD inspector general found that while Jackson told his deputies to favor Bush supporters, there was "no direct proof that a contract was actually awarded or rescinded because of political affiliation." A second, criminal investigation was triggered in part by Jackson's claim before Congress in May 2007 that "I don't touch contracts." That probe, now before a federal grand jury, has turned up evidence that Jackson may indeed have touched contracts - and steered them towards friends.

you would think the german troll would be able to find somrthing to do in his city, wouldn't you? been there 40 years, and thinks he still has some kind of say in OUR country!

"Neutraubling is a town in the state of Bavaria in southern Germany, in the district of Regensburg.

The town has only existed since 1951. After the second world war displaced Germans from the east parts of the Reich settled in the ruins of the bombed military airport. Today it is a more or less important industrial site. During second world war Neutraubling was used as an airbase. Its closeness to the Messerschmitt production in Regensburg may have been an advantage at some point. However, still today there can be relicts found of the early history of Neutraubling and its airbase past. For example the so called "Schlangenbau", now giving home to people from various nations all over the world, was the commando center of the airbase. The small pond allocated next to the Schlangenbau was used as a water reservoir for the fire watch of the airbase. Even the Catholic church there still harbors various signs of the past. It is said that parts of the wall of the church have been taken from a destroyed hangar. The main road leading through the city itself has its roots in one of the WW II airstrips. It is also a rumour, that Neutraubling also served as one of the outposts of Concentration Camp Dachau, which is situated about 75 miles to the south (in Munich's neighbourhood). For a better understanding it is essential to check out the of this article. Despite Neutraubling's earliest roots, dating back to the stone age period, it can't compete with Regensburg's rich history. "

Mccain, worse than Bush!

Although he is frantically trying to distance himself from President Bush, Mr. McCain, by his own accounting, would be more Bushian in foreign policy than even Mr. Bush is now. While Mr. Bush has been forced to accept more sensible policies in his second term, Mr. McCain has become steadily more of a neocon in the cowboy role that Mr. Bush played in his first term, prone to solving problems with stealth bombers rather than United Nations resolutions.

Judging from Mr. McCain’s own positions, he might well revive a cold war with Russia and could start a hot war with Iran or North Korea. In those three hot spots, Mr. McCain could constitute a dangerous gamble for this country:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/opinion/28kristof.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin

For McCain and Team, a Host of Ties to Gambling

By JO BECKER and DON VAN NATTA Jr.

Senator John McCain was on a roll. In a room reserved for high-stakes gamblers at the Foxwoods Resort Casino in Connecticut, he tossed $100 chips around a hot craps table. When the marathon session ended around 2:30 a.m., the Arizona senator and his entourage emerged with thousands of dollars in winnings

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/us/politics/28gambling-web.html?hp

Lobbyists in McCain’s inner circle cashed in on Senate Abramoff investigation.

McCain often brags that he led the Senate investigation into fallen lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who overbilled his Indian tribal clients millions of dollars. However, the New York Times reports that lobbyists in McCain’s inner circle “played a behind-the-scenes role in bringing Mr. Abramoff’s misdeeds to Mr. McCain’s attention — and then cashed in on the resulting investigation“:

For McCain-connected lobbyists who were rivals of Mr. Abramoff, the scandal presented a chance to crush a competitor. For senior McCain advisers, the inquiry allowed them to collect fees from the very Indians that Mr. Abramoff had ripped off. And the investigation enabled Mr. McCain to confront political enemies who helped defeat him in his 2000 presidential run while polishing his maverick image

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/28/abramoff-mccain-lobbyist/#comments

Lobbyists in McCain’s inner circle cashed in on Senate Abramoff investigation.

McCain often brags that he led the Senate investigation into fallen lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who overbilled his Indian tribal clients millions of dollars. However, the New York Times reports that lobbyists in McCain’s inner circle “played a behind-the-scenes role in bringing Mr. Abramoff’s misdeeds to Mr. McCain’s attention — and then cashed in on the resulting investigation“:

For McCain-connected lobbyists who were rivals of Mr. Abramoff, the scandal presented a chance to crush a competitor. For senior McCain advisers, the inquiry allowed them to collect fees from the very Indians that Mr. Abramoff had ripped off. And the investigation enabled Mr. McCain to confront political enemies who helped defeat him in his 2000 presidential run while polishing his maverick image

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/28/abramoff-mccain-lobbyist/#comments

NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY STEVIE LIKES THE BIMBO!

Palin Claimed Dinosaurs And People Coexisted

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/28/palin-claimed-dinosaurs-a_n_130012.html

NOT EVERYONE THINKS SHE IS LOVELY AND TALENTED!!

THEY WANT HER RECALLED!

Hundreds Protest Palin Troopergate Stalling In Alaska

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/28/hundreds-protest-palin-tr_n_129995.html

sunday thread open for business

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you are truly I G N O R A N T!