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It's not about winning the Presidency anymore... Support your Down-Ticket Dems... Let's get our 60 seat Majority in the Senate and a Crushing Majority in the House... We Cannot reverse the Bush neo-policy without 60 senators... You don't have to live in a particular State to Donate to a congressional candidate... Give to all 50 States... We have races all over that need your time and money.
You can see a list of underfunded but competitive races at Orange to Blue's Web-site http://www.actblue.com/page/orangetoblue
I just wish Obama would come out with a commercial crushing the myth that fannie and freddie and dodd and franks are the sole cause of the worlds financial crash.
Please, it would do a wealth of good.
Hopefully, Dusty and his Merry band of Trolls don't follow the breadcrumbs to this site...
Re-post:
NEO CON IS A DORK
McCain is dropping like a bomb in the polls. Even Republican insiders are now saying that Obama is going to win. I think that says it all!
You have to wonder why continue. Sarah Dumbass gets up there and acts like nothing is happening in the polls. They have got to know that they are tanking like the Stock market... (still down -415.13).
And Pam - I've heard here too in Indiana that absentee ballots are up by a huge number. That's a great sign for Obama! But they should be. They have had grass roots runners on the ground here for over a year. In fact, in our county we had 2 Obama offices - they finally closed one down and now we have one big one! McCain - I don't think he even has an office within 100 miles from me....
well the repelicans are getting down to the real nitty gritty of their gestalt...hate, bile and mob frenzy. let it all hang out freaks...and say hello to president obama.
Matt
Saw you post on Obama in Cinnci on the home page. I was in Cinnci (Wyoming) for a fun run last week end. There are Obama/Biden yard signs everywhere. They out numbered the McCain signs, two to one. Cinnci is as red as....well the Red's. It is a impressive display on behalf of the Democratic Party and obviously, Obama.
Wyoming is an older established upmarket suburb close to downtown Cinnci. Also, it is very hmmm....white. We saw a couple of bumper stickers there we hadn't seen before, the best one being "Old White Women for Obama"..:)
Gotta love it!
Now if the Wicked Witch of the North was Innocent, wouldn't you think they would be ANXIOUS to prove it???? hmmmmmm, me thinks she is guilty as hell!
Supreme Court Won't Block Troopergate Inquiry
Thursday 09 October 2008
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by: Sean Cockerham, Anchorage Daily News
Alaska Attorney General Talis Colberg during a news conference in Anchorage, Alaska. The Alaska Supreme Court rejected an appeal by Alaska Republican state legislators to stop the investigation into Governor Sarah Palin's dismissal of the state's public safety commissioner. (Photo: Al Grillo / AP)
The Alaska Supreme Court today rejected an attempt by a group of six Republican legislators to shut down the Legislature's investigation of Gov. Sarah Palin.
The ruling means that Steve Branchflower, the investigator hired by the Legislative Council, will release his report as scheduled on Friday. Branchflower is looking into Palin's dismissal of her public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, and whether she improperly pressured him to fire a state trooper divorced from her sister.
The american people have a right to know that palin is entrenched with domestic terrorists that hate the united states and want alaska to be it's own country. The american people have a right to know of her involvement with the AIP and it's haters of America. Just this year she did a taped interview wishing the AIP luck in their endeavor to separate Alaska from the other 49 states.
When will the republican/energy conglomerate owned MSM tell the truth about the trader palin?
ah President Obama and Vice President Biden - has a nice ring to it doesn't gregg?
"WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush urged Americans on Friday to resist feelings of "uncertainty and fear" in the economic crisis and assured them his administration is working to solve the problem."
where have all the ayn randers gone? the greenspam and eggs fans?? the uncle miltie friedman freaks??? gone to intellectual graveyards everyone...when will they ever learn? when will they ever learn?
gee bush wants me to resist feelings of uncertainty and fear....ok mr. presidummie whatever you say....now about those 401k's....
PamB on October 10, 2008 at 01:35 PM
Does this mean that the McCain campaign's announcement that Palin was exonerated by the investigation committee was blantant bullshit or that is was patented bullshit.
good golly gabanzos when is that great patrite christian breeder sister sarah's report comin out today....i jess know it'll be more good news for her....
BlueinIdaho on October 10, 2008 at 01:30 PM
Yer so funny :)...Check yer pockets and make sure nothing can fall on the floor. Those little bastards are like bat's in a cave. They can fly in the dark and sleep hanging upside down pissing on themselves during the day.
lol Dave - bullshit is bullshit no matter how thick the make-up!
gregg on October 10, 2008 at 01:43 PM
She's busy mavericking around the country takin on them rotten oil companies....giving those old white washington insiders erections and doin' intervewing with closet pedophiles.
What does Todd Palin do for a job? Did he take maternity leave?
Screwum on October 10, 2008 at 01:44 PM
Some republican mole was carrying on about Newsweeks cover shot of her makeup last night. Up close she has some imperfections...like blackheads and zits. From a distance, she is apparently hot..I don't think so..but some old, white, washington insiders do.
I'll bet some of those erections will go down when they get up close and see the zit's...
Probably why Todd stands behind her everywhere they go. He's seen them real close and has probably gotten tired of cleaning the pus off the mirror.
Market down: -569.09
This from an Alaskan newspaper:
An obscure figure outside of Alaska, Chryson has been a political fixture in the hometown of the Republican vice-presidential nominee for over a decade. During the 1990s, when Chryson directed the AIP, he and another radical right-winger, Steve Stoll, played a quiet but pivotal role in electing Palin as mayor of Wasilla and shaping her political agenda afterward. Both Stoll and Chryson not only contributed to Palin’s campaign financially, they played major behind-the-scenes roles in the Palin camp before, during and after her victory.
The AIP is the group of American terrorists who wants Alaska to secede from the United States of America.
For the record:
The Secretary of State here in Michigan has reported that the NYT's story is, inaccurate. The NYT reported that in access of 35,000 registered voters have been purged. The SOS up here that the real figure is 11,900 which is about the right average for dead ones and ones headed out of state to either die there or vote there.
Can someone suggest something to Palin to help with her blackhead and zit problem before she does another cover photo?
I heard that if you scrub your face with a brick it will remove dead skin and black heads.
Bonus...Todd could use that to scrape the pus off the mirror.
Question Dave - if she has zits on her face - what's on her butt?
Good afternoon, all.
Don't you love Sarah Silverman's THE GREAT SCHLEP for Obama?
It was conceived by her generation and it's brilliant. Who else is better to convince nervous grandparents being bombarded by Republican fear-mongering that there is still hope?
It started out targeting Jewish grandparents in Florida and now it's spreading across the country as a program to convince all grandparents in every state.
Would you listen to your grandkids pleas to help save their future or Joe Lieberman's lies?
Check it out for yourself...
From the AIP WEbsite. My preview screen ain't working. I thought you guys would appreciate these Q and A's.
Q: If Alaska became independent, wouldn't we lose a lot of federal money?
A: No. If Alaska returned to territorial status, most federal money would still be available. If Alaska were to attain complete independence, its revenues from oil and other natural resources would far exceed the amounts currently received from the federal government, at our current level of resource utilization.
Q: If Alaska were independent, what would happen to my social security check, federal pension, or military retirement?
A: People receive these checks around the world, regardless of their place of residence. In most cases eligibility for such checks would not be affected by Alaskan independence
Kathy, there is a great article (with videos and video interviews) if the AIP clowns that was just released yesterday. This link has an excerpt to it, and is written by one of the 2 guys who did the story.
Sarah Palin's dalliances with Wasilla's wackiest extremists
Basically, she is dirtier than the Chimp WH.
# That Gov. Palin, when a Wasilla city council member, formed an alliance with some of the more radical far-right citizens in Wasilla and vicinity, particularly members of the secessionist Alaskan Independence Party who were allied with local John Birch Society activists. These activists played an important role in her election as Wasilla mayor in 1996. # Once mayor, one of Mrs. Palin’s first acts was to attempt to appoint one of these extremists (a man named Steve Stoll) to her own seat on the city council. This was a man with a history of disrupting city council meetings with intimidating behavior. She was blocked by a single city council member. # Afterward, Mrs. Palin fired the city’s museum director at the behest of this faction.
There is a LOT more at the link, and an internal link to the whole piece.
Question Dave - if she has zits on her face - what's on her butt?
Screwum on October 10, 2008 at 02:01 PM
Yick!
I took a close look at the cover of Time today and I didn't see any acme. Considering all the junk food she's been probably eating since the start of the campaign, she looks pretty good.
Don't the McFearMongers realize that HD TV shows a lot more when the cameras zero in at a rally? The twisted look on her face has got to be scaring as many people as her heels make some Fundies hot.
Michigan_Dave on October 10, 2008 at 01:55 PM
Apparently Alaskans don't believe in exfoliation.
Screwum on October 10, 2008 at 02:01 PM
My guess those sweaty, festering boils. Everytime her nylons get hooked on one...she wink's..
Ok, enough Sarah bashing....Well except for this...God will give you zit's and blackheads if you lie...most liars have zits and blackheads...
Sarah..The Mavericky Energy Czar"
Excerpt from the NYT
In fact, there is no $40 billion dollar pipeline from Alaska bringing natural gas to the lower 48 states. As the New York Times explained last month, “the pipeline exists only on paper” —
The first section has yet to be laid, federal approvals are years away and the pipeline will not be completed for at least a decade. In fact, although it is the centerpiece of Ms. Palin’s relatively brief record as governor, the pipeline might never be built, and under a worst-case scenario, the state could lose up to $500 million it committed to defray regulatory and other costs.
Palin initiated the project by giving $500 million in Alaska state funds to TransCanada Corp. for the pipeline. However, the Canadian energy company “is not obligated to build it” and has made no promises to do so.
No, but Pugs believe in deforestation. Same thing to them.
puggles on October 10, 2008 at 02:18 PM
Is that what it's called when you hit yourself in the face with a brick?
SandyH on October 10, 2008 at 02:17 PM
She's on the cover of "Newsweek". I saw it on Larry King last night. I haven't seen it at a newstand. I walked up to the TV last night to have a look up close to see the black heads.
I think I saw a couple. It was either that or fly shit on my screen.
Hey, maybe it's not zit's or blackheads on her face. Maybe it's fly shit.
fox poll just out has some fun palin stuff....the more i hear about this lil'gal the more i like her....
8. Does Barack Obama’s selection of Joe Biden as his vice presidential running
mate make you more or less likely to vote for him for president?
More likely 34% Less likely 23%
9. Does John McCain's selection of Sarah Palin as his vice presidential running
mate make you more or less likely to vote for him for president?
More likely 32% Less likely 40%
oh and they have obama up 7 points nationally....and that's fox........!
Screwum on October 10, 2008 at 01:59 PM
Kathy,
So these radical secessionists are Palin's mentors?
They recruited her to run as a stealth candidate for Mayor and have since continued to nurture her career whenever possible. Why else did she address their convention in a taped message only this March wishing them continued success?
Why hasn't she distanced herself? You betcha. She's been palling around with domestic terrorists her whole political career and isn't about to publicly repudiate them.
Why not?
BranosukeX on October 10, 2008 at 02:30 PM
I can relate to that. I once took this really hot chick out. It was the first date. I picked up and did all the male chavo stuff. Open the door, out to the resturant...push the chair it...and then I saw it.
She had this big zit on the side of her neck and it was over. I sat across the table and tried to get the picture of this zit out of my head. It didn't matter how hot she looked straight on, it didn't matter what she said....all I could see was the zit.
I'm pretty weird though. I have a zero tolerance for zits. I know there are people that have a problem with them and I feel sorry for them.
I think that people with zits should date other people with zits and they can have zit babies.
gregg on October 10, 2008 at 02:33 PM
Fox with an asterisk *
"Keep in mind that you have to factor in the Bradley Effect and that when you take that into consideration, Obama will need to have a margin of 36% or more and you have to discount all registered voters in Puerto Rico."
Here is the cover, in case anyone hasn't seen it.
SandyH on October 10, 2008 at 02:33 PM
Wonder if these wacko's are the ones who run around buck naked in the woods, and have rituals around a blazing campfire pissing on photo's of presidents past and present?
Ya think?
They wanna succeed from the lower 48, still collect their welfare and earmarks and keep all the revenue collected from oil and gas sales, without remitting any taxes to the Federal Government.
Now there's a plan.
gregg on October 10, 2008 at 02:33 PM
gregg,
Murdock is no fool. He wants that half hour Obama ad revenue on election eve night.
Besides, don't we all remember how Faux News was launched…by the Clinton witch hunt? With McCain in office, they would have to defend him. He’s boring. Their ratings would tank.
But the minute Obama wins, O Reiley and Hannity will be out there beating the bushes looking for terris under Obama's door mat. Fox News has no interest in McCain being president.
None of us do...including those racist authoritarian men crying with rage at those Palin/McCain rallies. Nobody likes him. The few that respected him now think he's a coward...and stupid to boot.
Faux might yet retract their McCain endorsement to back Paris Hilton instead...and then have her kidnapped and sold into white slavery to some Middle Eastern country or Aruba. McCain might do the same with Palin if it looks like he's going to be embarrassed by a landslide.
Diversions centered around missing bosomy white blondes are surefire Faux News ratings hits...and GOP vote-getters, too?
Michigan_Dave on October 10, 2008 at 02:49 PM
Well, at least it's a better plan than McSame has?
Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on October 10, 2008 at 02:47
G'dammmm....look at those blackheads in the crease of her nose. And speaking of her nose..look at the zit on that beak. Is that earwax hanging in her ear, or is that just lighting?
That republican mole was right. Newsweek ought to be fined for grossing out america with a close up shot of blackheads and zit's.
"Toddd????...Todddd??...wheres the g'dam brick Toddd??"
Wouldn't you like to see...
30 second TV spots of McCain & Bush hugging each other, while the announcer talks about who got us into this financial mess?
"Women Against Palin" rallies everywhere Sarah goes?
30 second TV spots of Sarah's witch doctor experience?
Tv spots that discuss that fact that Wasilla charged rape victims for their rape kits while Sarah was mayor?
Strange, our values! After hearing that she was mayor of a town that allowed that, is there anything else we really need to know about her? Isn't that one fact enough to disqualify her for leadership?
(I'm not a proponent of negative ads, but gee, gang, shouldn't we drive home the point?)
Wouldn't you love to see TV ads that mention the world website that indicates that 87% of the world would vote for Obama?
Crossing my fingers on Nov 4th.
LOL - I once told someone I'd rather vote for a Democrat in a coma, than another Republican.
Just kidding, but you know what I mean.
a few quotes from a life that mattered...and a woman who really cared.
Emma Goldman (1869-1940)
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Before we can forgive one another, we have to understand one another.
Every daring attempt to make a great change in existing conditions, every lofty vision of new possibilities for the human race, has been labeled Utopian.
I'd rather have roses on my table than diamonds on my neck.
Idealists are foolish enough to throw caution to the winds. They have advanced mankind and have enriched the world.
No great idea in its beginning can ever be within the law. How can it be within the law? The law is stationary. The law is fixed. The law is a chariot wheel which binds us all regardless of conditions or place or time.
No real social change has ever been brought about without a revolution... revolution is but thought carried into action.
One cannot be too extreme in dealing with social ills; the extreme thing is generally the true thing.
Only when human sorrows are turned into a toy with glaring colors will baby people become interested - for a while at least. The people are a very fickle baby that must have new toys every day.
Politics is the reflex of the business and industrial world.
Since every effort in our educational life seems to be directed toward making of the child a being foreign to itself, it must of necessity produce individuals foreign to one another, and in everlasting antagonism with each other.
Someone has said that it requires less mental effort to condemn than to think.
The higher mental development of woman, the less possible it is for her to meet a congenial male who will see in her, not only sex, but also the human being, the friend, the comrade and strong individuality, who cannot and ought not lose a single trait of her character.
The history of progress is written in the blood of men and women who have dared to espouse an unpopular cause, as, for instance, the black man's right to his body, or woman's right to her soul.
The most unpardonable sin in society is independence of thought.
The most violent element in society is ignorance.
The political arena leaves one no alternative, one must either be a dunce or a rogue.
The State is the altar of political freedom and, like the religious altar, it is maintained for the purpose of human sacrifice.
The ultimate end of all revolutionary social change is to establish the sanctity of human life, the dignity of man, the right of every human being to liberty and well-being.
When we can't dream any longer we die.
"
This is for those idiots, who were foolish enought to buy the Republican Koolaid about Obama's Brother! Another lie you can quit repearting !!!
New York Post: BARACK BROTHER IN SHACK SHOCK
LIVING IN KENYA ON $1 A MONTH AND ASHAMED TO REVEAL WHO HE IS
The Texas Republican Party even made a Web video, attacking Obama for being uncaring. It had garnered over 100,000 views on YouTube before being removed.
But the story is hardly as sensational as some made it sound. As background, Obama and his half-brother, George, share a biological father, Barack Obama Sr., but have different mothers. The father left when Obama was 2 years old, and he was raised by his mother and maternal grandparents in the U.S. and, for a few years, in Indonesia. George grew up in Kenya. Neither had their father as much of a presence in their lives. The two met briefly when George, who is about 20 years younger than Barack, was very young.
After the Italian Vanity Fair story was reported, a CNN correspondent caught up with George Obama and interviewed him on camera. When asked about the brouhaha about his economic situation, he said that the media reports made him angry, adding:
George Obama: I was brought up well. I live well even now. The magazines, they have exaggerated everything ... There are some challenges, but maybe it is just like where you [the reporter] come from, there are the same challenges.
–Justin Bank
Sources
Pisa, Nick, "Barack Obama's 'lost' brother found in Kenya: Senator Barack Obama's long lost brother has been tracked down for the first time living in a shanty town in Kenya, reports claimed," Daily Telgraph (London). 21 Aug 2008.
McKenize, David, "Behind the Scenes: Meet George Obama," CNN.
www.factcheck.org
Let them go. All they have to do is pay back that #7.2 million bucks with interest compounded daily from 1868. When they pay it all back, we could invade and occupy them because they won't have any Military to speak of. Besides, we will have ready built bases just waiting for the invasion.
BranosukeX on October 10, 2008 at 02:30 PM
Welcome. The more the merrier.
I have got to stay off of other blogs. There are so many nut cases out there and they are depressing me. A few have actually come close to scaring me. With the repubs trying to incite riots and possible physical harm upon Sens. Obama and Biden, I'm frightened for their lives. Maybe after tossing back a few this evening, I'll feel better. At least on this blog, there are people who feel as strongly as I do about our Dem candidates. I didn't feel this way in May, but once I commit, I don't go back.
Hey {{{Michigan Dave}}}
I saw a Republican vs a Dem on TV the other night, debating that Cover with Palin on it. The Repug was OUTRAGED that they did not clean up that picture before using it. she said they do Obama's every time they use it, in fact he even had a halo of light on one of their covers ! You know that saying, if the shoe fits, then wear it? Well if you face has facial hairs, zits, blackheads, then wear it! Why the hell pretend you are something you are not? all those silly women out there will REALLY say" ohhhh, look, she IS just like me!"
"imaginary or invisible blackheads."
ahhhh, but that's the problem. They were NOT imaginary nor invisible. Go buy a copy of the Newsweek (well, forget that cheapskate, at least go look at it), and you will see why she is yelling ! Her face is a mess! Kind of like Cindy's waddle in her neck. I just can't keep my eyes off it when they show a close up of her.
ps, I never noticed Obama's ears. Is there a problem? And I never even realized he was black till you mentioned it in one of your racist rants recently ! Gee, I wonder why that should bother you? With his education and his intelligence, he is Still WAY over your class.
Truth of the matter is Palin is really not that attractive. I laugh when she appears in public with her hair down and she tosses it around hoping to excite the men. And, I certainly don't think that she and I are in any way alike.
neo_con on October 10, 2008 at 02:53 PM
It's Clinton's fault...and Obama is his illegitamate son? Clinton used to hang with Ayers? Al Gore understands how to solve the economic problem but you aren't interested because he's too elitist?
Let's flash forward to Spunky speaking this morning at the White House and how well that worked out shall we?
Posted by a Cave Dweller
By STEVEN A. HOLMES
Published: September 30, 1999
Hmmmmm....1999?? September 30, 1999??
How many Billions of dollars in sub prime loans do you think were written in October/November/December 1999 under a Clinton Adminstration??
Let's see...Republican President..Republican Majority..in 2000..??
The root cause of our current economic crisis is not sub prime mortgage lending. The root cause of our current crisis is un-regulated sub prime lending and de-regulation of investment banks.
Failed sub prime mortgages is only a small piece of the disaster. Speculation on Credit Default Swaps is what is causing a credit and banking meltdown.
But you dumb asses want to blame it on the poor suckers who got a loan to buy a house, with bad credit and then defaulted when they lost a job or the company they were working for went bankrupt.
Fuck me. Will you stupid shits please move to Alaska and stay there where you can raise stupid kids and have statewide stupid conventions. You could even have a Miss Stupid pagent and have your own flag with a stupid logo on it. You could put your hand over your heart and recite the Alaskan pledge to loyalty to stupidity.
It could be a utopion paradise for stupid people. You could inbreed and cross breed and come up with some exciting variables of stupid.
You could have 6 degrees of stupid. You could start with window lickers all the way advance stupid that could continue to be members of the republican party.
Just do it so we could get on with having a real country without the handicap of stupid people that we have to allow the right to vote.
damn - Dave is on a roll with the zit thing....
Got to run early today - getting new glasses so I can read....
Keep on Rockn'
k
Yeah, the FOX bimbos are all up in arms because Newsweek didn't airbrush that Pig with lipstick like a Playboy centerfold. After all, it is the usual practice for FOX to touch up photos of people so they look better, RIGHT?
Barnet on October 10, 2008 at 02:56 PM
I'm guessing we will be seeing a lot of those McCain/Bush hugging shots in various types of campaign media. You don't have to say a word. One look and everyone feels the same about the two Huggies.
{{{{PamB}}}} on October 10, 2008 at 03:04 PM
Hey Pammie :)
I'm a long ways from perfect and I'm well aware of my imperfections...
Really, I am just playing, hoping to incite a riot with knuckle draggers who might fly down from the cave roof today.
I've decided not to talk about issues today. I think the national conversation should be about Palin's zit's and blackheads. It doesn't matter if she is not qualified today.
What matters is the idea that if she does become the vice president there is no way that she can meet with other world leaders with those zits. Nothing could ever get done. Everyone would be focused on the zit. Some would want to pop it, whilst others would be repulsed by it.
America needs a zitless leader and president.
Hey, somebody gave Putin a tiger cub for his birthday. What did McCain get an albatross?
Maybe Silly* was right all along about Global cooling.
Hell just froze over!!
That's right, the son of William F. Buckley just jumped on the bandwagon of the known winner. The National Review will never be the same.
I can't wait to see those clowns at the NRO on line site go apeshit!
VICTOR DAVIS HANSON
DAVID FREDDOSO
RICH LOWRY
JONAH GOLDBERG
CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER
MICHELLE MALKIN
JOSEPH ANTOS
Any comments from you assclowns? (Besides AAAAAUUUUUGHGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!)
This is the whole rogues gallery of wing nuts that get posted here all night every night.
John McCain keeps upsetting rock artists by using their songs without permission
Submitted by Chad on Fri, 10/10/2008
Heart, Jackson Browne, Foo Fighters, and so much more. K-Tel Records presents "Songs used by the John McCain campaign without permission." All the classic hits by the original artists, none of whom want to be associated with John McCain.
This collection might sell really well. Jackson Browne ("Running On Empty"), Heart ("Barracuda"), Foo Fighters ("My Hero"), and John Mellencamp ("Our Country" and "Pink Houses") makes for a nice set of music.
But do you think that is all to the collection? Not even close. How about Van Halen's "Right Now" and Frankie Valli's "Can't Take My Eyes Off You" (used as a parody for McCain). Let's not forget the Orleans' classic "Still the One," written by John Hall, or rather I should say, Rep. John Hall (D-NY), mis-used by McCain in 2008 AND George W. Bush in 2004.
And if you act now, you will get bonus tracks such as Tom Petty's "I Won't Back Down" (used by Bush in 2000 against the wishes of the artist), Boston's "More than a Feeling" (Mike Huckabee in 2008). And you will get an extra special bonus track, we have Bruce Springsteen's "Born in the USA" used with no irony by Ronald Reagan, whose team paid attention to the title of the song, but not the lyrics.
John McCain may be doing more to revive the careers of classic rock artists than a triple-play weekend on the local rock station...
Good day,
Dave, show some human kindness for Pimple Palin? Blackheads and comedos are testosterone surges in plain sight. Guess that the media is just trying to show who wears the pants in that family, and that she is qualified to be cranker-in-chief of the armies. Very sly, but ultimately pretty scary.
Sandy, it just goes to show; Pugs are THIEVES. They even steal intellectual property, so never mind about that old line of them stealing anything that isn't nailed down to the floor. They'll steal the nails. And the hammer. And the floor.
This is an interesting take. The Empire tax is that these countries get to purchase bombs and intelligence stuff with credits? To help convince the actual workers to toe the line?
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The Silent Financial Coup d’état
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Lesson 3: The dollar’s value is determined politically, which is supported by military capacity and power projection.
Q: Is it possible for the US to combat the ongoing financial crisis as a lonely financial superpower?
A: Yes, if the US and UK in combination are prepared to use sufficient military and covert force.
Q: What you mean? Hard power or covert power projection, certainly will accelerate other strategic moves from China, Russia and even a few others, including provocateurs, and I am not sure that Europe (even UK) will follow…
A: The dollar’s value is determined politically, which is supported by military capacity. The new president will not have a mandate to support the dollar. The people who finance the government will decide and the question is what they want. If continuing a global taxation system through the dollar managed system is what they desire for political reasons, it can and will continue. See my post.
Q: So you mean that the countries and institutions all around the world that finance American crazy debt and deficit system are paying a kind of global tax to the superpower?
A: Global Treasuries and Sovereign Wealth Funds, central banks and a variety of large institutions buy Treasury securities or hold dollars not because there is true economic value behind them or because these financial assets are sound fiscally or in terms of credit. The US debt and deficit financing is no longer a debt system. It is a global taxation system.
Q: Even with all this recent financial carnage?
A: Hence, demand for US dollars and government and agency bonds continue even as value falls dramatically. The losses on these holdings represent a tax paid to the “Empire”.
Love it! They are right! Obama has the advantage of end of quarter, 401K statements as a reminder to EVERYONE, even Republicans what this administration and the Republican majority congress for 14 years did to us!!!!!!!
McCain in a Bear Market
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by: George Will, Washington Post Writers Group
Washington - Time was, the Baltimore Orioles manager was Earl Weaver, a short, irascible, Napoleonic figure who, when cranky, as he frequently was, would shout at an umpire, "Are you going to get any better or is this it?" With, mercifully, only one debate to go, that is the question about John McCain's campaign.
In the closing days of his 10-year quest for the presidency, McCain finds it galling that Barack Obama is winning the first serious campaign he has ever run against a Republican. Before Tuesday night's uneventful event, gall was fueling what might be the McCain-Palin campaign's closing argument. It is less that Obama has bad ideas than that Obama is a bad person.
This, McCain and his female Sancho Panza say, is demonstrated by bad associations Obama had in Chicago, such as with William Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist. But the McCain-Palin charges have come just as the Obama campaign is benefiting from a mass mailing it is not paying for. Many millions of American households are gingerly opening envelopes containing reports of the third-quarter losses in their 401(k) and other retirement accounts -- telling each household its portion of the nearly $2 trillion that Americans' accounts have recently shed. In this context, the McCain-Palin campaign's attempt to get Americans to focus on Obama's Chicago associations seem surreal -- or, as a British politician once said about criticism he was receiving, "like being savaged by a dead sheep
Dave, I agree. Talking about Palin and her imperfections is so much more fun.
I am waiting impatiently for that Judge and panel to make a decision in Alaska, but too much money has washed hands up there for any Justice to be done. The truth on Troopergate may not come out for some time.
Joe Biden is a real gem. He speaks to voters in way that average Joes can reelate without being too negative. He's been doing what Palin should be doing...making a point without inciting a riot.
It would be hard to find an objective person inside or outside Washington who wouldn't say he's not a rock. Just another reason why we will win in November.
bbl.
Joe Biden is a real gem. He speaks to voters in a way that average Joes can relate without being too negative. He's been doing what Palin should be doing...making a point without inciting a riot.
It would be hard to find an objective person inside or outside Washington who wouldn't say he's not a rock. Just another reason why we will win in November.
bbl.
Oh great, let this gang of pirates and thieves re-write the financial rules of the world? Disaster casino-capitalism moves the international wealth class into the 21st century.
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Berlusconi Says Leaders May Close World's Markets (Update1)
By Steve Scherer
Oct. 10 (Bloomberg) -- Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi said political leaders are discussing the idea of closing the world's financial markets while they ``rewrite the rules of international finance.''
``The idea of suspending the markets for the time it takes to rewrite the rules is being discussed,'' Berlusconi said today after a Cabinet meeting in Naples, Italy. A solution to the financial crisis ``can't just be for one country, or even just for Europe, but global.''
The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell as much 8.1 percent in early trading and pared most of those losses after Berlusconi's remarks. The Dow was down 0.5 percent to 8540.52 at 10:10 in New York.
Group of Seven finance ministers and central bankers are meeting in Washington today, and will stay in town for the International Monetary Fund and World Bank meetings this weekend. European Union leaders may gather in Paris on Oct. 12, three days before a scheduled summit in Brussels, Berlusconi said today, while Group of Eight leaders may hold a meeting on the crisis ``in coming days,'' he said.
Berlusconi didn't give any details about what kind of rules leaders were looking to change, except to say that leaders are ``talking about a new Bretton Woods.''
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aP5mpMUORBWM
Afternoon all! I hope all you good dems are doing great. God Bless America, God Bless Sen. Obama, God Bless Sen. Biden and God Bless all of us!
We cannot afford to act as if the Presidential elction is already won. McCain does not want to lose, he thinks this election is supposed to be his turn, he's waited thru W and he deserves to be Presient. Also Bush/Cheney do not want a Democrat revealing all that they have made "secret" for 8 years and they do not want a recession/depression on their watch so they will do just about anything. Lastly, Karl Rove has not retired or given up his stated ambition to make the Republicans a permantent majority. We cannot assume that the Republicans will not try to steal this election as they clearly stole the 2004 Presidential and the 2006 Congressional in states with fully electronic voting. Just today the Albany, NY Times Union reported that in Republican controlled Renneslaer County, NY all the absentee ballots mailed out so far have "Obama" spelled "Osama".
Anti-Democratic Nature of US Capitalism is Being Exposed
Bretton Woods was the system of global financial management set up at the end of the second World War to ensure the interests of capital did not smother wider social concerns in post-war democracies. It was hated by the US neoliberals - the very people who created the banking crisis writes Noam Chomsky
THE SIMULTANEOUS unfolding of the US presidential campaign and unraveling of the financial markets presents one of those occasions where the political and economic systems starkly reveal their nature.
Passion about the campaign may not be universally shared but almost everybody can feel the anxiety from the foreclosure of a million homes, and concerns about jobs, savings and healthcare at risk.
The initial Bush proposals to deal with the crisis so reeked of totalitarianism that they were quickly modified. Under intense lobbyist pressure, they were reshaped as "a clear win for the largest institutions in the system . . . a way of dumping assets without having to fail or close", as described by James Rickards, who negotiated the federal bailout for the hedge fund Long Term Capital Management in 1998, reminding us that we are treading familiar turf. The immediate origins of the current meltdown lie in the collapse of the housing bubble supervised by Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan, which sustained the struggling economy through the Bush years by debt-based consumer spending along with borrowing from abroad. But the roots are deeper. In part they lie in the triumph of financial liberalisation in the past 30 years - that is, freeing the markets as much as possible from government regulation.
~snip~
"Politics is the shadow cast on society by big business," concluded America's leading 20th century social philosopher John Dewey, and will remain so as long as power resides in "business for private profit through private control of banking, land, industry, reinforced by command of the press, press agents and other means of publicity and propaganda".
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/10/10-4
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wider social concerns -smothered by usury and war? 1984, love it, or what?
Surprise, surprise, surprise, as Gomer Pyle might nicely say.
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GOP OCTOBER 'SURPRISE' SPREADS TO OHIO: Coordinated Plan to Wreak Havoc, Bring Bogus 'Voter Fraud' Allegations Hits Buckeye State
VIDEO: McCain Picks Up Phony ACORN 'Voter Fraud' Allegations in Stump Speech Today
Concerns of Actual Election Fraud, Voter Registration Purges in State After State, Completely Ignored by Republicans, Media...
The GOP's October "Surprise" continues...Even as it's no surprise at all that they are hoping to cause absolute bedlam at the polls. They are off to a good start, as the Democrats seem to be caught flat-footed, despite years of warnings about all of this.
The latest Republican assault on democracy began earlier this week with a 'stunt' raid in (swing state) Nevada, then unsubstantiated allegations in (swing state) Missouri last night (raid coming soon, no doubt), and just hours ago as AP reports, it's (swing state) Ohio...
I just went to get the mail and tuned into hannity to see what lies he was spewing today. He is non-stop blaming Obama for everything the weathermen did when Obama was eight years old.
He has the rabid right-wing extremists all stirred up and incited to riot by his bullshit. These animals are describing in detail the explosions and damage done by the weathermen.
ayers was obviously not part of the activity because he was never indicted.
hannity needs to be removed from the radio. He is inciting people to harm Obama and I for one will no longer tolerate his lies and hate.
If anything happens to Obama, hannity needs to be tried for inciting to riot and being an accomplish to whatever happens to Obama
He then needs to spend the rest of his miserable hate filled life in solitary confinement in silence with no human contact. hannity is unfit to be a civilized human being.
Fox News should be permanently removed from television. Pull their license and pull the radio license of any radio station that plays hannity's bullshit.
Typo? I don't think so! This smells like KKKarl Rove!
NY election mix-up: 'Osama' on the ballot
By RICHARD RICHTMYER, Associated Press Writer 27 minutes ago
TROY, N.Y. - Who is running for president? In an upstate New York county, hundreds of voters have been sent absentee ballots in which they could vote for "Barack Osama."
The absentee ballots sent to voters in Rensselaer County identified the two presidential candidates as "Barack Osama" and "John McCain." In the United States, the best-known individual named Osama is Osama bin Laden, leader of the al Qaida terrorist group behind the 2001 attacks that destroyed the World Trade Center in New York City.
The typographical terror error was first reported by the Times Union of Albany.
The elections office faxed a statement in which the two commissioners, Democrat Edward McDonough and Republican Larry Bugbee, said they regret the error but never acknowledge what the error was.
re: Osama/Obama mailing typo
It might very well be an oversight. I have noticed that when I use "spellcheck" program, it always comes up correcting "Obama" as "Osama." If you're not cautious, one could accept the alternate spelling. It annoys me to no end. The only way around it is to enter "Obama" into the dictionary.
McLame-o just lost another prominent Pug.
"He is not the McCain I endorsed," said Milliken, reached at his Traverse City home Thursday. "He keeps saying, 'Who is Barack Obama?' I would ask the question, 'Who is John McCain?' because his campaign has become rather disappointing to me.
"I'm disappointed in the tenor and the personal attacks on the part of the McCain campaign, when he ought to be talking about the issues."
Hey Dave, this one's for you!
I just saw this on BuzzFlash. What in the hell is Paulson doing with our taxpayer bailout money? I thought it was going toward small businesses trying to make payroll or citizens trying to buy cars and houses...
October 8, 2008
First Bailout Results Known
Sources: NRCC Secures $8 Million Loan for Final Election Pushl.
The National REPUBLICAN Congressional Committee has received $8 MILLION from Wachovia Bank.
Credit crunch? Unsecured loans impossible to find?
Chris Bowers at OpenLeft writes that,
in the short term, this is effectively an $8 million donation to the NRCC from Wachovia at a time when Wachovia is supposedly in dire straits, about to be bought out by other banks, and will receive money from the government via the bailout.
The Bush administration is about to start handing out taxpayer cash for bad debts, and suddenly the NRCC gets $8 million from Wachovia. Come on. How blatant can it be?
Northhartford: I leave you posts with specific questions all of the time and each time I leave you a post, you run and hide. Let's watch you scamper away like the cowardly little vermin that you are! I'll try again:
Re-post from yesterday:
Northhartford: Several days ago I left you a post that you have yet to respond to. I was wondering if you would care to 'defend' the 'Bush tax cuts' that Sen. McCain has vowed to make permanent and explain specifically how they have benefited the economy when middle class households now have $2,000 less than they did 8 years ago?
I was wondering if you would care to explain and 'defend' the "Trickle down economics" employed by Bush and which McCain has also vowed to, not only keep in place, but to expand. Can you please compare and contrast the economic theories employed by Coolidge and Hoover that led to the Great Depression against the economic theories employed by R. Reagan, G.H.W. Bush and the current administration, as well as promissed by J. McCain.
Can you please explain how and why you believe that J. mcCain can or has an desire to help middle class America in the area of economy and finance?
Can you please explain how and why you believe that J. mcCain 'knows how to win a war?' as he has been on the loosing side of each and every one that he has been associated with?
Can you please define "define" victory in Iraq. I was told that it was to get into the hands of the Iraqi people the responsibility for their own safety and rebuilding of their own country. As that is exactly what Sen. Obama is promissing to do in a safety-first, phased way, how can that we called anything but 'victory?'
Just a few quick questions that I hope you can explain to me as you not only voted for the worst president in history, - not once but twice - and plan to vote for all of his policies yet again! Please defend your position!
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marymac_memphis on October 9, 2008 at 01:12 PM
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SandyH on October 10, 2008 at 03:28 PM
Nah! He got a turkey buzzard!
The pugs gave up on their voter fraud scam here. It's about time. When you know you are in the right, you don't just give up. The democratic party still plans to go ahead with their law suit, which is great. They plan to expose the corrupt tactics of, at least, the RNC in Montana.
Went and voted early on Wed. and I was told that there had already been some 16,000 early votes cast.
How's the weather there, Butte. Ha! Snow in October.
The Bush administration is about to start handing out taxpayer cash for bad debts, and suddenly the NRCC gets $8 million from Wachovia. Come on. How blatant can it be?
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SandyH on October 10, 2008 at 05:07 PM
And Bush 'bailed out' his cousin! Two birds with one stone!
Big Oil is sitting pretty in this meltdown. Largest profits in the history of the world. They got us in a stranglehold and are directing our fighting-madness into acquisitions for the industry.
Wake up America. Switch on the sun and electric power.
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AMY GOODMAN: You have a chapter called “Lobbyists, Lawyers and Elections: How Big Oil Kills Democracy.”
ANTONIA JUHASZ: Yeah, one of the things that I found fascinating, actually, in doing my own research and as someone who has worked for two members of Congress, was to uncover how this profit—and just to be clear, these are the highest profits in the history of the world, unparalleled with any other industry.
AMY GOODMAN: Which companies?
ANTONIA JUHASZ: Big Oil, the big oil companies: Exxon—Exxon Mobil, Chevron, ConocoPhillips, BP/Shell, also Marathon and Valero, are the biggest companies operating in the United States. The profits are unparalleled, with the defense industry, pharmaceuticals, banks, you name it, no comparison.
So this money just infiltrates every layer of government, from the most local level—I tell the story of Richmond, California, near where I live—to the state level, federal, international, and permeates, not just in campaign contributions, which of course is important—so far, about $1.6 million by the oil industry to McCain-Palin, a little less than $400,000 to the Obama-Biden ticket, a pretty clear difference there, about 75 percent of oil given to Republicans overall. But campaign contributions are just the very tip of the iceberg. It really is lobbying, where the big money comes in. It’s the front groups that you don’t even know are associated with the oil industry, where the influence comes in.
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AMY GOODMAN: You talk about wars for oil.
ANTONIA JUHASZ: Yeah, I mean, one of the things that’s been amazing was with Senator McCain constantly reiterating this need for US energy independence, as if more drilling would give us that, which is another topic, but his admittance essentially that we are engaging in wars for oil, and if we don’t want to do that, in his framework, we’re going to need to drill more in the United States—I think a clear admission that we are, of course, engaged in wars for oil and will continue to do so.
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AMY GOODMAN: How do you propose taking on Big Oil, Antonia Juhasz?
ANTONIA JUHASZ: A number of ways, but two very simple ones. A great campaign launched by Oil Change International calling for the separation of oil and state, essentially based on the very successful campaigns against the tobacco industry in the 1990s that made it toxic for elected officials to receive tobacco money. It became a badge you did not want to wear. And they started not taking that money, and it made it possible to start regulating an industry that everyone thought was impenetrable throughout the ’90s, now no longer considered quite so quite so much. Oil, of course, another toxic substance on which we have developed an intense addiction. Getting candidates to renounce all oil industry money and calling on individuals to vote for the least oily candidate out there, and being able to hold election promises to account after elections.
Also, of course, dealing substantially with lobbying reform, reducing consumption, investing in alternatives and public transportation, and, I believe, following the model of the successful populace a hundred years ago who broke up Standard Oil, breaking up the big oil companies today.
AMY GOODMAN: Antonia Juhasz, I want to thank you for being with us, congratulate you on your second new book, The Tyranny of Oil: The World’s Most Powerful Industry—And What We Must Do to Stop It.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/10/7/the_tyranny_of_oil_antonia_juhasz
What was Ayers and Obama doing together in 1993? Making bombs? Storming ROTC buildings? Writing Communist manifestos?
Or were they just meeting with other Republicans on a foundation committee to improve education in Chicago?
Isn't that the issue?
Obama never participated in any Weathemen activities ever...in 1993 or when he was a child in the 1960's. The hate-mongers are coming out at Palin rallies like the Nazis did in Germany when their economy fell appart suggesting that someone, "that one", should pay for their frustration.
"So what?" That is what the Republican pundit just said on Hardabll. "So what?"
The RNC has become the last bastion of the the lunatic fringe. They don't want to solve our economic problems. They just want to lynch somebody; and because they can't admit that their Republican heroes caused this mess, they are going after Obama.
Now they are encouraging their angry band of rabble to fire verbal bullets...egged on by Sarah Palin, John McCain, and now Cindy McCain. If it ends up turning to real bullets will the GOP pundits be saying, "So what?"
And why are Catholic schools sending children to these Far Right hate feasts? Where are the parents and responsible priests? No wonder pedifiles worked those parishes without any oversight. There is something really sleazy about THIS ASSOCIATION.
NorthHartford* on October 10, 2008 at 05:04 PM
And you have friends who want to "Kill Him."
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mike_n_montana on October 10, 2008 at 05:26 PM
What do you expect, Montana Tech's having homecoming tonight! LOL!
NOAA has a winter weather advisory out for tonight, they canceled the storm warning, but right now, it's just cold and cloudy with just a bit of snow on the ground.
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SandyH on October 10, 2008 at 05:34 PM
What link can you provide for Catholic schools sending kids to McInsane/Palin rallys?
The Church tries to stay away from involvement in political rallies, and if any Catholic institutions are participating in any such rally, the Diocese needs to be notified.
Where did the hyperlinks go? I can't link to this site!
Anyway, Sandy, I tracked down a link from the United Council of Catholic Bishops' site.
It's Catholics for Faithful Citizenship at
http://www.faithfulcitizenship.org/resources/dos_and_don'ts that will give you the guidelines that the Catholic Church uses for political involvement.
From what I've seen and read Catholic schoolkids should NOT be at any political rally, at least not in their school uniforms and only if their parents bring them.
Commentary: Is this the start of another Great Depression?
Eichengreen: Serious mistakes were made by policy makers in Depression
Today's leaders know the lessons of the Depression, he says
Still, events are rapidly overtaking the resources of the central banks, he says
Eichengreen: The problem can't wait until Inauguration Day to be solved
By Barry Eichengreen
Special to CNN
Editor's Note: Barry Eichengreen is George C. Pardee and Helen N. Pardee Professor of Economics and Political Science at the University of California, Berkeley. He is the author of "Golden Fetters: the Gold Standard and the Great Depression, 1919-1939."
Barry Eichengreen says strong action should be taken to stop the financial crisis from getting worse.
BERKELEY, California (CNN) -- Every time the economy and stock market turn down, financial historians get predictable calls from reporters.
Could this be the start of another Great Depression? Could "it" possibly happen again? My stock answer has always been no.
The Great Depression resulted from a series of economic and financial shocks -- the end of a housing bubble in 1926 and the end of a high-tech bubble in 1929 -- but also from truly breathtaking neglect and incompetence on the part of policymakers.
It couldn't happen again precisely because policymakers know this history. Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke is a student of the Great Depression. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson remembers the mistakes of Andrew Mellon, Herbert Hoover's treasury secretary.
We can be confident, I always answered, that there will not be another Great Depression because policymakers have read financial histories like mine. At least that was my line until recently. Now I have stopped taking reporters' calls.
Paulson endorses bank stock purchase plan
By MARTIN CRUTSINGER, AP Economics Writer 12 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said Friday that the Bush administration will move ahead with a plan to buy stock in financial institutions.
Paulson said the program to purchase stock in financial institutions will be open to a broad array of institutions.
The administration received the authority to make direct purchases of stock in banks in the $700 billion measure Congress passed last week to rescue the nation's financial system.
Hi Chicago! I am starting to actually get worried about the McCain/Palin ticket inciting violence. They really should be acting in a more responsible way, don't you think?
There are three specific constituencies that make up the republican party...
...the evangelicals
...the wealthy capitalist
...and the extreme right
McLame is finally trying to tone down the obscene rhetoric. Of course the lunatic fringe that is showing up at his events don't like it.
McLame's campaign is in bad shape.
And when is that trooper-gate report going to be let out.
The wealthy capitalists support the republican party for it's "self-professed" claim of fiscally conservative spending practices, government de-regulation and free market capitalism.
I've been wondering about that report myself. They keep saying that it will be today but today where, in Alaska? What time zone is that, anyway? Pacific?
Evangelical Christians support the republican party for their "self-professed" claim of family and traditional values.
The extreme right supports the republican party because if it wasn't for the republican party the extreme right would have no place to go.
Marymac,
Good to see you. I just watched Pat Buchanon try to defend the McLame campaign calling the questioning of Obama's ties to Ayers as legitimate questions. What the a-hole forgot was that there ARE NO REAL ASSOCIATIONS between Ayers and Obama. The McLame camp is using inuendo, half truth and out-right lies to try to sell this to people. It is dishonest and the McLame campaign is a dishonorable campaign.
Benji on October 10, 2008 at 07:08 PM
And the evangelicals just want the 'legal right' to impose their narrow minded views upon the rest of the world. They are willing to trade, not only their own financial security, but that of everyone else in order to do so!
Chicago on October 10, 2008 at 07:11 PM
So they served on a charity board organized by a REPUBLICAN who was a close friend of their Saint Ray-gun! Does that somehow qualify Sen. Obama for Republican Sainthood via the six degrees of separation, guilt by association, McCarthiestic world of the idiot right wing fringe? What a bunch of nut cases!
The reason why the republican party is destined to fail is simple.
True capitalists know that the republican party can't be trusted to effectively run the economy.
True Christians know that the republican party worships false gods.
And the extreme right neither have the intellect to understand the complex global economy and...
...extreme right can't tell the difference between god and satan.
Chicago, do you ever wonder about Pat Buchanan? Sometimes, you can just tell that his 'heart' just is not in it. He 'tows the party line' as best he can but even he just can not get firmly behind McCain or Palin. Have you noticed that or is it just my imagination?
marymac_memphis on October 10, 2008 at 07:14 PM
The Republican base is getting very ANGRY. Why? Because they are like spoiled little brats. In the last two elections, they were able to dictate the message to the masses. For Gore, he was an exagerator. For Kerry it was obviously the free swift-boat coverage by ALL the news channels giving the lunatic fringe legitamacy in simple minds.
So this time, when they do not seem to be able to dictate the message, they are stamping their little stupid feet. They are frustrated.
Poor stupid little republican dupes.
In the absence of a technological revolution, the republican party has been historically successful electing loyal politicians via misleading campaign slogans and political gimmickery.
marymac_memphis on October 10, 2008 at 07:19 PM
Pat seems to shift with the wind. Some days he supports McLame/Palin. Other days, he sort of dismisses them as, well, lame. But when they get on a "Republican" issue like swift-boating or lying he defends the Republicans right to do those things. He knows they can't win an election without them.
When wealthy capitalists are hit in the pocket book over the current financial crisis, the finger of blame will only have so many places to point.
Benji,
Just listen to these nuts on the religious radio shows. They want the country to go back to christian values. In other words they want a theocracy.
This doesn't do much for other religions in America if they want everyone to follow christian values.
These people need to be sent to live in alaska with the wicked witch of the north.
I just went to get the mail and tuned into hannity to see what lies he was spewing today. He is non-stop blaming Obama for everything the weathermen did when Obama was eight years old.
He has the rabid right-wing extremists all stirred up and incited to riot by his bullshit. These animals are describing in detail the explosions and damage done by the weathermen.
ayers was obviously not part of the activity because he was never indicted.
hannity needs to be removed from the radio. He is inciting people to harm Obama and I for one will no longer tolerate his lies and hate.
If anything happens to Obama, hannity needs to be tried for inciting to riot and being an accomplish to whatever happens to Obama
He then needs to spend the rest of his miserable hate filled life in solitary confinement in silence with no human contact. hannity is unfit to be a civilized human being.
Fox News should be permanently removed from television. Pull their license and pull the radio license of any radio station that plays hannity's bullshit.
We really need some more Palin interviews. I mean really. Even if all we get is questions shouted accross a lunch counter. When this trooper-gate report comes out, they should be hounding her like the paparazzi. Tina Fey needs to make a living too ya' know.
121Chicago on October 10, 2008 at 07:30 PM We really need some more Palin interviews.
I'd also like to supporters at her rallies interviewed and broadcast as far and wide as possible.
It looks like McLame is catching on that the hate filled events he has been running are not helping him in the polls. All the people that would vote for him no matter what are fine with those hate filled events. But all the non-idiots are being turned off. McLame is putting the brakes on the "Hate Talk Express".
dorsano on October 10, 2008 at 07:33 PM
Dorsano,
That is a great idea.
123Chicago on October 10, 2008 at 07:37 PM McCain is putting the brakes on the "Hate Talk Express".
We'll see ... I'm hoping McCain doesn't.
These people think they are mainstream. While it's doubtful massive rejection by the rest of the country will lead them to introspection, such rejection is the best chance of achieving that end it seems to me.
You have to wonder what is wrong with those people in the crowd at the Republican hate fests. Obama is a US SENATOR. Think about that for a minute. He was elected by the people of his state and has served honorably in the Senate. But some of those fools BELIEVE he is a terrorist? I think we all can agree that McLame KNOWS Obama is NOT a terrorist. So, why would he then have Palin telling people Obama is a terrorist? John McCain has no honor left.
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AussieDem on October 10, 2008 at 06:42 PM
First of all, Welcome back.
Second of all that rip-off "organization was only formed on October 6, 2008.
I'll do some more "Whois" digging if you want me to.
So far it looks like it is "affiliated" with Rupert Murdoch and the AEI. (And some other clown outfit that just incorporated this week).
SCHEDULE E
INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURES
FILING FEC-365554
Committee: NATIONAL REPUBLICAN TRUST PAC...
LAKEVILLE, Minn. (AP) -- The anger is getting raw at Republican rallies and John McCain is acting to tamp it down. McCain was booed by his own supporters Friday when, in an abrupt switch from raising questions about Barack Obama's character, he described the Democrat as a "decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared of as president of the United States."
A sense of grievance spilling into rage has gripped some GOP events this week as McCain supporters see his presidential campaign lag against Obama. Some in the audience are making it personal, against the Democrat. Shouts of "traitor," "terrorist," "treason," "liar," and even "off with his head" have rung from the crowd at McCain and Sarah Palin rallies, and gone unchallenged by them.
The Secret Service confirmed Friday that it had investigated an episode reported in The Washington Post in which someone in Palin's crowd in Clearwater, Fla., shouted "kill him," on Monday, meaning Obama. There was "no indication that there was anything directed at Obama," Secret Service spokesman Eric Zahren told AP. "We looked into it because we always operate in an atmosphere of an abundance of caution."
Palin, at a fundraiser in Ohio on Friday, told supporters "it's not negative and it's not mean-spirited" to scrutinize Obama's iffy associations.
But Kathleen Hall Jamieson, director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania an author of 15 books on politics, says the vitriol has been encouraged by inflammatory words from the stage.
"Red-meat rhetoric elicits emotional responses in those already disposed by ads using words such as 'dangerous' 'dishonorable' and 'risky' to believe that the country would be endangered by election of the opposing candidate," she said.
More.....
MarkLof on October 10, 2008 at 08:32 PM
I was wondering if you would care to 'defend' the 'Bush tax cuts' that Sen. McCain has vowed to make permanent and explain specifically how they have benefited the economy when middle class households now have $2,000 less than they did 8 years ago?
I was wondering if you would care to explain and 'defend' the "Trickle down economics" employed by Bush and which McCain has also vowed to, not only keep in place, but to expand. Can you please compare and contrast the economic theories employed by Coolidge and Hoover that led to the Great Depression against the economic theories employed by R. Reagan, G.H.W. Bush and the current administration, as well as promissed by J. McCain.
Can you please explain how and why you believe that J. mcCain can or has any desire to help middle class America in the area of economy and finance?
Can you please explain how and why you believe that J. mcCain 'knows how to win a war?' as he has been on the loosing side of each and every one that he has been associated with?
Can you please define "define" victory in Iraq. I was told that it was to get into the hands of the Iraqi people the responsibility for their own safety and rebuilding of their own country. As that is exactly what Sen. Obama is promissing to do in a safety-first, phased way, how can that we called anything but 'victory?'
Just a few quick questions that I hope you can explain to me as you not only voted for the worst president in history, - not once but twice - and plan to vote for all of his policies yet again! Please defend your position!
Ha! She's guilty! I hope they impeach her. Any idea where a link to the whole report is?
Woo Hoo!
Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing
By MATT APUZZO, Associated Press Writer 16 minutes ago
ANCHORAGE, Alaska - A legislative committee investigating Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has found she unlawfully abused her authority in firing the state's public safety commissioner. The investigative report concludes that a family grudge wasn't the sole reason for firing Public Safety Commissioner Walter Monegan but says it likely was a contributing factor.
The Republican vice presidential nominee has been accused of firing a commissioner to settle a family dispute. Palin supporters have called the investigation politically motivated.
Monegan says he was dismissed as retribution for resisting pressure to fire a state trooper involved in a bitter divorce with the governor's sister. Palin says Monegan was fired as part of a legitimate budget dispute.
I flipped over to Faux news to see what their take on this "breaking story" was and Bill-O was just chatting away about something else. They didn't even have it on their ticker yet. Fox News - Far, Biased
A Buckley endorses Obama
Posted: 07:08 PM ET
Christopher Buckley, son of William F. Buckley, is backing Obama.
(CNN) — No, hell has not frozen over, but a Buckley is backing a Democrat for president.
Christopher Buckley, the son of the late conservative icon William F. Buckley, said Friday he's decided to back Barack Obama's White House bid, the first time in his life he will vote Democrat.
“It’s a good thing my dear old mum and pup [sic] are no longer alive. They’d cut off my allowance," Buckley, a columnist for the conservative National Review, wrote on the Web site The Daily Beast Friday.
Buckley, who praised McCain in a New York Times Op-Ed earlier this year and defended the Arizona senator's conservative credentials against wary talk-radio hosts, said McCain is no longer the “real” and “unconventional” man he once admired.
"This campaign has changed John McCain," Buckley wrote. "It has made him inauthentic. A once-first class temperament has become irascible and snarly; his positions change, and lack coherence; he makes unrealistic promises, such as balancing the federal budget 'by the end of my first term.' Who, really, believes that?
"Then there was the self-dramatizing and feckless suspension of his campaign over the financial crisis," Buckley added. "His ninth-inning attack ads are mean-spirited and pointless. And finally, not to belabor it, there was the Palin nomination. What on earth can he have been thinking?"
But Buckley made clear he's not just voting against McCain, praising Obama for his "first-class temperament and first-class intellect.
"Obama has in him—I think, despite his sometimes airy-fairy 'We are the people we have been waiting for' silly rhetoric—the potential to be a good, perhaps even great leader. He is, it seems clear enough, what the historical moment seems to be calling for," Buckley wrote.
Panel Finds Palin Abused Authority
A legislative committee investigating Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, the Republican vice presidential candidate, issued a report Friday night that found she unlawfully abused her authority by firing the state’s public safety commissioner.
She's a Maverick
137mike_n_montana on October 10, 2008 at 08:55 PM I flipped over to Faux news to see what their take on this "breaking story" was and Bill-O was just chatting away about something else. They didn't even have it on their ticker yet. Fox News - Far, Biased
The culture war won't die till this generation dies. Even after the election, the likes of Palin's supporters will still come here and claim that
* the election was stolen by ACORN
* McCain was incompetent
* The panel was rigged
* The media has a liberal bias
* Global warming hysteria distracted the country
* The financial crisis was caused by low income housing
* Hollywood and Jane Fonda corrupted America
....
Pammy,
A look at Factcheck. org turned up neg. on results for Obama's brother George, pulled that out of your ass did ya?
79NorthHartford* on October 10, 2008 at 05:00 PM
I am sorry, Danny you old mental idiot. I forgot that you are not very bright, and unable to research anything on your own.
Is Obama's brother really dirt poor in Kenya and living on a dollar a day?
A: CNN tracked down George Obama, and he said that he was "brought up well" and "live[s] well now."
On August 21, tabloids and news organizations picked up reports from the Italian edition of Vanity Fair about George Obama, Barack Obama's half brother, living in Nairobi, Kenya. The magazine said George was "earning less than a dollar a day."
The Daily Telegraph in London trumpeted the news with this line:
Daily Telegraph: Senator Barack Obama's long lost brother has been tracked down for the first time living in a shanty town in Kenya, reports claimed.
Stateside, our own New York Post gave it this all-caps treatment:
New York Post: BARACK BROTHER IN SHACK SHOCK
LIVING IN KENYA ON $1 A MONTH AND ASHAMED TO REVEAL WHO HE IS
The Texas Republican Party even made a Web video, attacking Obama for being uncaring. It had garnered over 100,000 views on YouTube before being removed.
But the story is hardly as sensational as some made it sound. As background, Obama and his half-brother, George, share a biological father, Barack Obama Sr., but have different mothers. The father left when Obama was 2 years old, and he was raised by his mother and maternal grandparents in the U.S. and, for a few years, in Indonesia. George grew up in Kenya. Neither had their father as much of a presence in their lives. The two met briefly when George, who is about 20 years younger than Barack, was very young.
After the Italian Vanity Fair story was reported, a CNN correspondent caught up with George Obama and interviewed him on camera. When asked about the brouhaha about his economic situation, he said that the media reports made him angry, adding:
George Obama: I was brought up well. I live well even now. The magazines, they have exaggerated everything ... There are some challenges, but maybe it is just like where you [the reporter] come from, there are the same challenges.
–Justin Bank
Sources
Pisa, Nick, "Barack Obama's 'lost' brother found in Kenya: Senator Barack Obama's long lost brother has been tracked down for the first time living in a shanty town in Kenya, reports claimed," Daily Telgraph (London). 21 Aug 2008.
McKenize, David, "Behind the Scenes: Meet George Obama," CNN
YOU GOT IT NOW, MENTAL MIDGIT???
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_obamas_brother_really_dirt_poor_in.html
Mary Mac, notice how fast the trolls scurry like little cockroaches when you ask them an intelligent question about the economy or something! heeheehee.
Hey Benji, welcome back.
As you see, the trolls are getting very shrill, very panicky, very frustrated as they watch McCain getting flushed down the toilet !
Hi Aussie Dem. Nice to see you too. Thanks for your view from across the world. We used to have a Dutchman visit 4 years ago, encouraging us and letting us know what the world was thinking.
My husband blogs on a music blog that is international. There are Aussies, Brits, people from all countries on it, and they all tell my husband "You have got to get rid of Bush and the Republicans!" We Know, We Know. We are working on it and not going to take it anymore!! :)
Good evening to you all Dems. blog ya tomorrow.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The wicked witch of the north is going down in flames. The American people saw through her lies.
There are some honorable people left in the world.
An economic expert on the Thom Hartman show today said that we will either be in a bad recession or a depression. He said it will be much shorter than the 1929 depression.
Thom asked him if there is any hope of us getting our of this soon and he said we will have to wait for the Obama administration.
Today on CNN, with Wolf, the govenor of Montana was on. He said it is a tie in Montana, if you consider the Paul factor. Cnn had McCain up by five percent.
This guy actually knew about his state and could speak very clear. Such a contrast to the "energy" expert palin who answered a supporter at a rally yesterday that she didn't think Alaska exported 75% of their oil. Actually, Alaska exports 0 of their oil to foriegn countries. So much for being an expert or having a brain.
I hope you all know that
THERE IS AN EVENING OPEN THREAD
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