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Posted by Matt Ortega on October 4, 2008 at 02:13 PM

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Just another Corrupt, criminal Repug !

"In an overview of Sarah Palin's tax returns for 2006 and 2007, which she has finally released, the Associated Press reports that Palin neglected to pay the taxes due on $17,000 she received in per diem payments as Governor of Alaska. A McCain campaign official claims, falsely, that Palin owed no taxes on those payments.

Sarah Palin makes $125,000 a year as Alaska governor. Plus, since she took the job in December 2006, she hasn't paid taxes on the more than $17,000 she received in controversial per diem payments for working out of the family's lakeside home in Wasilla...

Regarding the per diem dispute, [McCain-Palin spokeswoman Maria] Comella said Juneau is the governor's home base and therefore whenever she works elsewhere, she is entitled to charge the state. Comella contended the per diem payments are not taxable.

[Former IRS commissioner Sheldon] Cohen said it was fine for the state of Alaska to determine it was okay to reimburse Palin to work out of her home, but the state's decision didn't mean those benefits were not taxable by the federal government. "One has nothing to do with the other," said Cohen.

It's very clear that taxes were due on these per diems. This is tax evasion by Sarah Palin, pure and simple. It doesn't quite rise to the level of Richard Nixon's utter failure to pay any taxes for a few years while he was president. But what a standard to be flirting with.

Palin's per diems are themselves controversial. She billed the state of Alaska nearly $17,000 for 312 nights she spent at her house in Wasilla. Because the governor has a mansion in Juneau and is supposed to reside and work there (though she is in fact absent far more than she's present in the capital), she may be permitted technically under state regulations to claim a per diem for lodging while she's staying at her own home. But it looks pretty cynical to claim to be a reformer while seeking payments for living at home. That's particularly true since Palin also billed the state to fly her husband and children around the state, to the tune of more than $43,000. Once Palin brought one of her daughters with her at great expense to a Women and Leadership conference in New York City, where they stayed in an extremely luxurious hotel.


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PamB on October 4, 2008 at 02:36 PM

I just loved it when Biden was saying, John McCain isn't a maverick when he votes against insurance for children. John McCain isn't a maverick, John McCain isn't a maverick when it comes to the war, John McCain isn't a maverick.

That was the best part of the whole night. And he got away with it without one person questioning his honesty or integrity. Ha Ha Ha

You tell'em Joe, keep telling them that over and over until November.

JOHN MCCAIN IS NO MAVERICK! It's about time someone had the balls to say it.

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newsjunkie on October 4, 2008 at 03:26 PM

Sally are you purposefully ingnoring the fact that obama wrote to treasury secretary paulson and told him of the impending doom on wall street, due to the single fact of deregualation and no oversight by republicans in power. Facts hurt your party more than ours.

Republicans didn't want to fix it, don't you see, that's why chimpy asked for the money now, before we win in Nov. The financial cronnies of the republicans knew GW would bail them out, they were betting on it. Why are republicans so naive.

GW in 2006 "Home ownership is at an all time high" it was the cornerstone of his economic accomplishment in the light of job loss and debt and war.

We are kicking you dumb republicans asses, get used to it, your done.

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newsjunkie on October 4, 2008 at 03:40 PM

Ask yourself dumb dumb sally why did McCain vote for the bailout of wallstreet. If he was a true maverick and this was truely only about freddie and fannie, which it is not, why then did he have to commit political suicide and vote for it?

HEHEHEHE He had to please the rich wall street types that are running his campaign and the country. Hey sally, 2 + 2 = 4

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newsjunkie on October 4, 2008 at 03:44 PM

Sally is it the democrats fault too, that the jobs went to china?

Is it the dems fault that the consumer product safety commissions budget was slashed by bush and the republicans could care less if the babies are being poisened by china?

Is it the dems fault that bush didn't get bin laden yet?

Is it the dems fault that bush stipped the mine investigators of all authority to shut down a mine no matter how many fines they got.

Greed runs your party, your party is of evil, greed is evil. Say good bye to your party, it's over.

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newsjunkie on October 4, 2008 at 03:49 PM

Earlier I drove down a predominately black are in the city closest to me. There were Obama signs everywhere. This year they are registered and will be voting. This is going to be huge across the country.

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newsjunkie on October 4, 2008 at 04:02 PM

Good afternoon, all.

I thought I had caught all of Palin's screw ups from the debate Thursday. But here's yet another one:

Updated: ABC News: Palin flub on bankruptcy has McCain camp flailing

Oct 03, 2008

As anyone who has followed the foreclosure crisis closely knows, there is currently a loophole in federal bankruptcy law that allows John McCain to protect his second through seventh homes and yachts and planes if he were to declare bankruptcy, but doesn't allow you and me to save our primary residence that we live in.

Barack Obama has called for closing this loophole, Joe Biden has called for closing this loophole, and John McCain has defended it to benefit his banker buddies.

So, of course, I was thrilled last night to see Joe Biden press the McPalin ticket on this really important policy distinction, when he suggested that the GOP ticket opposed this important protection for homeowners.

When Gwen Ifill pressed Palin on this point of whether she was opposed, she denied it, saying, "No, that is not so."

ABC News has this story up on their Political Radar blog, and the McCain campaign is already backtracking and trying to spin away Palin's answer, but it's revealing a deeper truth.

In reality, Palin didn't know what she was talking about and immediately pivoted to energy, even though she was asked about bankruptcy, just like she did all night...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/3/84824/0108/623/618748

Apparently, Sarah doesn't know where McCain stands on important issues...and doesn't even agree with him.

Yet she is his point man out on the attack trail? How stupid is that?

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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 04:08 PM

We are kicking you dumb republicans asses, get used to it, your done.

Posted by newsjunkie on October 4, 2008 at 03:40 PM


you sound like some little snotnosed punk with a boner and don´t know what to do with it

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The_Evil_Dr*Burd on October 4, 2008 at 04:10 PM

Earlier I drove down a predominately black are in the city closest to me. There were Obama signs everywhere. This year they are registered and will be voting. This is going to be huge across the country.
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newsjunkie on October 4, 2008 at 04:02 PM

Signs? i think thats what a person would call ghetto grafitti

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The_Evil_Dr*Burd on October 4, 2008 at 04:11 PM

I am not a member of any party.

Sally-* on October 4, 2008 at 03:57 PM

It was pretty sad when they kicked you out of the American Nazi Party? Perhaps they would welcome you in Turd's German Fatherland chapter.

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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 04:17 PM

so tell us Sandy, how much do you fork out for membership dues in the American Communist Party. or have you already gone a step further and just support ole Kim Jong II with a substanial monthly payment?

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The_Evil_Dr*Burd on October 4, 2008 at 04:31 PM

Palin has more experience running government than Obama and she is younger and better looking than you, geez, grow up.

Dan_A_Cactus** on October 4, 2008 at 11:48 AM

Palin has more experience running a welfare state.

If she hadn't extracted funds from the oil companies using a windfall profit tax and earmarks from the federal budget, she'd be having one heck of a time keeping Alaska from going broke.

The only thing she's seems even moderately competent at is using her expense account to feather her own pockets. Since when does a Governor charge the taxpayers for the days she's out of the state Capitol?

And then she says that this compensation is not taxable income for her federal returns? Does she think we were all born yesterday? (Actually, after what's happened in the last month, nobody is that stupid any longer.)

There's a bunk in the same cell block with O.J. awaiting her if Palin doesn't file an amended return pronto.

The lovely Sarah is jail bait just like Abramoff and Duke Cunningham. She may be small town Joe Six Pack, but she has big time aspirations to Republican corruption in her blood.

Get out the checkbook, Todd. Sarah just got caught and you're not going to get that new taxpayer-financed snowmobile after all.

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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 04:44 PM

The_Evil_Dr*Burd on October 4, 2008 at 04:31 PM

I'm a proud member of the Democratic Party.

Shouldn't you be packing before Immigration catches up with you? Or did you pay some poor working class American woman to marry you to get a green card?

The next President of the United States will be Barack Obama. Love him or leave us.

Just leave us and blog from your Fatherland.

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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 05:08 PM

Sally-* on October 4, 2008 at 04:56 PM

She evaded paying income tax. She's no better than Al Capone.

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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 05:12 PM

Posted by SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 05:08 PM


you are so booooooorrrrrrrrrrring old woman.

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The_Evil_Dr*Burd on October 4, 2008 at 05:15 PM

Fire Sale

Hurry, hurry, hurry!
Step right up, folks.
Get your failed economic policies,
Your compromised Constitution,
Your yawning inequality,
Crumbling infrastructure, declining
Middle Class, and Defunct New Orleans
While supplies last.

Going, going, going! A culture war, cheap;
Other wars at deep discount:
Iraq war, complete with oversized embassy;
Afghan war with revived Taliban;
Pakistan war...oops, can't say that...
(But I gotta tell you, folks, this one
Is the enhanced version with
A holed up bin Laden. Don't miss it!)

Hurry, hurry before they all sell out!
Don't miss out on plummeting world standing,
Record deficits accompanied by double-
Digit inflation and a stupendous
One-only-left-in-stock Wall Street Collapse
and Worst Recession In a Generation.
These unbelievable articles were manufactured
By the same great team who brought us
A Resurgent Russia, Growling China,
Unsettled Middle East, Nuclear North Korea,
World Economic Meltdown, Devalued Dollar,
Pending Chaos: all classics available now.
Hurry, hurry, hurry. These things can't last.

Step right up for a chance to own one
Failed presidency, tarnished but
Still glittering with faux pas.
I'll be honest, folks. We may never
See our democracy at such a discount again.
Ashcrofts, Brownies, Rumsfelds, Gonzalaz'
These are limited editions,
Each a-once-in-a-lifetime steal.
You won't see them again at any price
Anywhere after Obama wins the election.
Don't take a chance on
Missing this historic moment.
Sale ends November 3rd.

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tylinCA on October 4, 2008 at 05:15 PM

I'm a proud member of the Democratic Party.
SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 05:08 PM

excuse me, does that mean that not only Kim Jong II gets his handout from you but Little Hugo also gets his share?

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The_Evil_Dr*Burd on October 4, 2008 at 05:19 PM

JOHN MCCAIN IS NO MAVERICK! It's about time someone had the balls to say it.
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newsjunkie on October 4, 2008 at 03:26 PM

news,

It's just like when Joe said in the debate..WE WILL END THIS WAR. People have been waiting to hear it.

It's the kind of plain talk that Palin only dreams of expressing. She can't end a sentence unless it has a tax loophole in it for a corrupt financial banker, oil executive, or lobbyist.

That's the McCain maverick trademark.

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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 05:21 PM

Posted by AussieDem on October 4, 2008 at 05:24 PM

as if some sheepherder wasting away in the outback has an opinion.

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The_Evil_Dr*Burd on October 4, 2008 at 05:32 PM

The_Evil_Dr*Burd on October 4, 2008 at 05:19 PM

Who died and named you Führer?

I could care less about what happens to North Korea or Venezuela. They seem to be progressing quite well towards meeting their goals with Spunky's blessing. Your Republican cowboy couldn't get anything right.

I'm more worried about what happens right here within our own shores. We've been sold out by the Republicans to all kinds of foreign influences...like you.

Go away and count your Euros.

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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 05:32 PM

Posted by SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 05:32 PM

having a stash of euro´s is a good idea.

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The_Evil_Dr*Burd on October 4, 2008 at 05:40 PM

Hello fine dems

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 05:44 PM

The_Evil_Dr*Burd on October 4, 2008 at 05:15 PM

Takes one to know one.

How about a little gossip? I was at a wedding reception today and a Fundamentalist Christian I've know for over 25 years told me she's voting for Obama. Why? Because she thinks "things" have gone too far.

She's more concerned with GOP incompetence in economic and military matters than GOP family values...which she sees very few of in Republican candidates these days.

She figures that liberals will do what they can to help women make "better" choices and that gay people don't threaten anybody's marriage including her's...just don't use public financing to encourage it.

The truth is sinking in.

After 40 years of Lee Atwater and Karl Rove lies and dirty tricks, all kinds of people of different religious and political persuasions have had enough of wedge issues and are ready to work with Democrats to get our train back on track.

The end is near. Get thee back to the Fatherland...or the closest RNC field office. Your work is done here, intern.


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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 05:50 PM

I see the republican-dupe brain trust is with us again today. I thought silly and turd were stupid. Then we got to know Sarah "Caribou-Barbie" Palin and learned what the real meaining of stupid is.

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 05:51 PM

The_Evil_Dr*Burd on October 4, 2008 at 05:40 PM

Apparently, Dick Cheney agrees. I hear he converted his stash of war profiteering funds over to Euros last year. (He didn't have some insider info?).

Wouldn't you like to see where Cindy McCain has been putting the family reserves before this economic meltdown? When is she going to release her tax returns?

You Republicans made Teresa Kerry do it just four years ago. What are you hiding?

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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 05:57 PM

Posted by SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 05:50 PM


fatherland?

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The_Evil_Dr*Burd on October 4, 2008 at 05:57 PM

I've been reading this blog for a long time. Normally I don't say much (frankly it's pretty hard to sign on here) but I just wanted to say keep up the good work to those on this site that are trying, in their own states to push for the votes we need to finally get a democrat back in office. The grass roots campaign that Obama has put together is the reason that this campaign will succeed where the other ones have failed for the past couple of times by such a narrow margin (well that whole florida thing too but....) I've never seen so many people charged up with such energy for change and I am proud to support this feeling in a state that is pretty much a lost cause. It's funny to look at it from where I sit. I'm in the most liberal city in Montana and it seems from here that Obama should win by a land slide. I look at the polls and see that the rest of the state is different and I get bummed out that the effort was stopped in this state. I know we've only got three electoral votes, but when this all started, I thought for sure we'd be a blue state after a hard fight that lasted the whole campaign. I'll not give up on it, I saw a guy from Butte on here that hasn't given up, so maybe we can turn Montana around. I lived in North Carolina for most of my life and looking at that, I'm beginning to think that anything is possible.

I'm going to find a link to this wonderful article that I read the other day about McCain leading the charge to cover up the fact that we left men in Vietnam. I showed this to a couple of my undecided friends in N.C. and after some research on their own, they let me know that that had made up their mind. It needs to get out. I've seen that the McCain camps plan is to attack Obama for his past, I hope that he would use some of those little nuggets to attack back.

I'm sure that the paid consultants for the RNC that troll (get it, troll) all blogs and try to shout down Dems will attack me for something. I can't imagine what, but just to pre-empt them, I don't really care.

Keep it up Strong Supporters Of Change!

Obama/Biden 08'

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mike_n_montana on October 4, 2008 at 06:07 PM

McCain's Tortured Untruths

Lots of folks have noticed John McCain's tendency to flip-flop during the presidential campaign, but over the past week he's sort of burst the sound barrier on self-contradiction, like the verbal Top Gun he is. In fact, he has so loosed the surly bonds of consistency that you've got to start wondering if there's some deeper meaning behind the constant double-talk.

On Monday, for example, after the bailout bill collapsed, McCain did a 180 in one breath: "Senator Obama and his allies in Congress infused unnecessary partisanship into the process. Now is not the time to fix the blame, it's time to fix the problem."

Then on Tuesday, just minutes after the candidate publicly decried the lack of "bipartisan good will," his campaign released an ad that accused Obama and the Democrats of blocking the reforms that he is certain would have averted this crisis. (Not so, says Factcheck.org).

When ABC's Ron Claiborne asked McCain that same day how could he insist he wasn't assigning blame while pointing fingers at Obama and the Dems, McCain stared like a porcelain doll and denied blaming anyone.
It's similar to his denial that he ever said he didn't know much about the economy--though that, too, is on tape.

Actually, the Janus-faced statements are marbled throughout McCain's campaign. "The fundamentals of the economy are strong"/the fundamentals are f***ed; I won't debate till the bailout deal is sealed/I'm hustling down to the debate even though the deal just collapsed. We could go on and on, and not just during this campaign--remember how the Confederate flag was bad, then good, then bad again? Or how Jerry Falwell was an agent of intolerance, only later to be elevated to good people? (See the full "My sister! My daughter!" drama here and here.)

All this fits inside the framing flip-flop between Senator Honor and McDirty Campaigner. McCain ran for the Republican nomination promising an "honorable" general election fight over the issues with his preferred opponent, Hillary Clinton (Bill Clinton even barnstormed the nation saying such a campaign would be civilized and super for the country). But when confronted by the unexpected rise of Barack Obama, McCain quickly resorted to the Paris Hilton ad, the Obama-is-a-sex-perv ad, and the ad insinuating Obama was in the pocket of an African-American former Fannie Mae CEO (who isn't even an Obama advisor, though he does share Obama's skin color).

It's not just that McCain lies (though he does). It's not just age or forgetfulness or a tendency to phone it in on policy (though his campaign, "concerned about his tendency to adopt the last opinion he has heard," does try to restrict McCain's cell phone use, according to the New York Times).

His reversals go far beyond the usual political hypocrisies--it's as if he's turning inside out, daily, hourly, sometimes minute-by-minute, right in front of our eyes.

And, inevitably, as his manner has begun to seem increasingly erratic, the McCain problem has come back, again and again, to torture. And not to his flip-flop on the Bush administration's use of torture, either, but to his own experience of being tortured during his five-and-a-half years in a POW camp.

I'm not suggesting McCain is a Manchurian Candidate, not at all. But let's think about the nature of McCain's heroism, which is both his chief claim to fitness for office and his gob-smacking comeback to any criticism whatsoever. His hero status grew out of a series of reversals--one minute the indomitable flyboy, next minute the helpless victim; one minute the son of the admiral commanding the fleet that was pounding Hanoi with heavy ordnance daily, the next, North Vietnam's most-prized prisoner, singled out for particularly vicious treatment. Offered early release, he refused, nobly insisting that he be treated no differently than the other prisoners. Yet even in claiming he was one of them, he was simultaneously asserting that he was somehow special.
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters/367490/mccain_s_tortured_untruths

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 06:08 PM

how could anybody who disagrees with you have an opinion?Posted by AussieDem on October 4, 2008 at 06:06 PM

You could ask our resident trool queen Pammy(duhsty speak for troll) the same exact question. that old broads is extreme friggin biased.

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The_Evil_Dr*Burd on October 4, 2008 at 06:16 PM

Here's that link. The article is pretty long, but really informative. It would appear that Senator Kerry was a part in this as well. I think that these men need to answer for their actions. This also gives you a good idea of McCain's temper and how to bring it out.

Obama/Biden 08'

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mike_n_montana on October 4, 2008 at 06:17 PM
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mike_n_montana on October 4, 2008 at 06:21 PM

Independent watchdog groups and, increasingly, mainstream media are debunking what many call an unprecedented number of distortions and smears put forward by John McCain as he attempts to lie his way into the White House.

oncern about the McCain lies is being raised by non-partisan groups, fact check operations, newspapers and columnists. Jonathan Alter, the Newsweek reporter who has covered eight presidential elections, is among many who have described the number of lies as “unprecedented” for a candidate seeking the highest office in the land. Even Karl Rove, longtime GOP mastermind of smear tactics, said in a TV interview that McCain’s “stretching of the truth” has been “over the top.”
http://current.com/items/89320221_liar_liar_liar_john_mccain_s_on_fire

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 06:22 PM

Btw - love your posts - funniest things I've EVER seen.
Posted by AussieDem

Hell, you want to see funny, I can send you photos of your leftist blogger friends on here.

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TheGreatGazoo on October 4, 2008 at 06:22 PM

Sally-* on October 4, 2008 at 02:51 PM

[Yawn] Not the "blame the democrats" spin again, is it? None the less, since you want to engage in facts, let's do so.

...It was Senator Dodd, Congressman Frank and other liberal Democrats who for years refused requests from the Bush administration to set up an agency to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. It was liberal Democrats, again led by Dodd and Frank, who for years pushed for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to go even further in promoting subprime mortgage loans, which are at the heart of today's financial crisis.

Alan Greenspan warned them four years ago. So did the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers to the President. So did Bush's Secretary of the Treasury, five years ago.

Yet, today, what are we hearing? That it was the Bush administration "right-wing ideology" of "de-regulation" that set the stage for the financial crisis. Do facts matter?...

Mr. Sowell must be ignorant to the fact that the GOP controlled the Congress from 1995 until 2007. Alan Greenspan warned the GOP controlled Congress four years ago. Secretary Paul O'Neill warned the GOP controlled Congress five years ago. And what did the GOP do about this? They called for more deregulation.

...But the facts show that it was the government that pressured financial institutions in general to lend to subprime borrowers, with such things as the Community Reinvestment Act and, later, threats of legal action by then Attorney General Janet Reno if the feds did not like the statistics on who was getting loans and who wasn't...

Yeah, silly us for wanting to keep an eye on a GOP controlled Congress notorious for being partial to people who are white, Christian, and rich. So I suppose it is now the position of you and\or Mr. Sowell that African-Americans and other minorities are the cause of the sub-prime mortgage meltdown. Well, that is classic GOP politics.

...The tie between Barack Obama and Franklin Raines is not all one-way. Obama has been the second-largest recipient of Fannie Mae's financial contributions, right after Senator Christopher Dodd...

It is a direct violation of FEC laws for an organization to give campaign contributions to candidates. And since the GOP still controls the Dept. of Justice, why haven't y'all started a criminal investigation? Where is AG Mukasey on this; out test driving new waterboards?

In closing, the GOP is desperate and grasping at straws. This is nothing more than yet another smear by the equivalent of "Swift Boat" attack entity this time in the guise of one Thomas Sowell who is notorious for his views on deregulation as if every one who is rich would never be greedy. Right... we don't know any greedy rich people, do we?

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BobVADemocratHawk on October 4, 2008 at 06:23 PM

Hi Mike N Montana, we welcome all fine dems and even republicans and independents that actually want to discuss issues, not parrot Fake News lies and call names only.

I am in a red state but so far there are a lot less bumber stickers and signs for republicans than in 2004. There is still time, but hopefully they are voting dem or they are too embarassed to put something out. I know I would be too if I was voting R.

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newsjunkie on October 4, 2008 at 06:31 PM

mike_n_montana on October 4, 2008 at 06:07 PM

Thank you for your input, Mike. We hope you continue to come here. We certainly do appreciate the fact that the great state of Montana has two Democratic Senators currently serving in the 110th Congress and hopefully in the 111th Congress as well. The Montana Democrats have done an excellent job in turning that state around and we look forward to your continued success.

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BobVADemocratHawk on October 4, 2008 at 06:32 PM

Does anyone know what would happen if, when Obama wins the election, the losing neo-cons create an incident not unlike 9/11 thereby enabling them to declare Martial Law and refuse to hold the inauguration? Would George W. remain President or would Obama be President without being sworn in? I am concerned about this.

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francespryor on October 4, 2008 at 06:36 PM

Posted by francespryor on October 4, 2008 at 06:36 PM

That post took real brains to do. talk about stupid.

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The_Evil_Dr*Burd on October 4, 2008 at 06:38 PM

Well, lookee here. We can play the electoral vote game better than Karl Rove. Bet no one in the GOP saw this coming:

Indeed, add up all the averaged probabilities and safe states and trends and positive toss-ups and Obama currently stands at a whopping 353 electoral votes to McCain's 185. That is a whole lot of electoral territory for McCain to recoup, and his every retraction, such as in Michigan, only means more Obama resources poured into shoring up other probabilities and toss-ups.

http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/carpenter/202

Of course, these numbers will not remain this high, but we have a chance of making some big inroads in states where we've been told we have no support. If not this election, the the next election.

We now have the grass roots organization and coordination needed to change hearts and minds...and we aren't afraid to reach out to those who have turned against us in the past tricked by lies and wedge issues. They might not embrace us (yet) but they will respect us.

This is what citizenship should be. You don't only register and vote, you know the candidates and work for the ones you know will work for the common good.

A Middle Class agenda and a commitment to re-building our military strength is just what this nation needs. It's a Democratic principle which somehow got lost in the Reagan tax fraud BS and moral majority hooplah.

A whole new generation has signed on to get this nation and our Party back on its feet. I expect everyone from the Baby Boom generation to give them a hand. Canvass or phone bank. Put up signs. Talk to your neighbors and friends. Don't be afraid to speak up and explain your views.

This is our country (all of us...from red, white, and blue states) and McCain doesn't want to put it first. He's part of the same GOP political machine that tried to destroy our stateside economy and the stability of the world body politic with dangerous Neocon meddling.

We have a big tent and everyone is welcome and respected whether they agree with us or not. We need perspective and new members from outside our Base.

This is our time. We can do it. We will do it.

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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 06:39 PM

I am concerned about this.
Posted by francespryor

You should be. Word here at HQ is that you are targeted and will be among the 1st ones to be "processed". You'd better pack up a go-bag and head for the hills.

Don't forget your Crayons and Tang.

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TheGreatGazoo on October 4, 2008 at 06:40 PM

Hi Sally, Hi Cactus, hello Doctor.

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TheGreatGazoo on October 4, 2008 at 06:41 PM

This is our time. We can do it. We will do it.

Posted by SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 06:39 PM

I´ve been saying all along that when McCain and the lovely and talented Sarah are elected, that our resident liberal moonbat clan will beshit themselves.

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The_Evil_Dr*Burd on October 4, 2008 at 06:43 PM

hey cactus,sally, gazoo!

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The_Evil_Dr*Burd on October 4, 2008 at 06:44 PM

I´ve been saying all along that when McCain and the lovely and talented Sarah are elected, that our resident liberal moonbat clan will beshit themselves.

Posted by The_Evil_Dr*Burd on October 4, 2008 at 06:43 PM


The smell will be apalling. Just like a CT ghetto in the summer.

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The_Evil_Dr*Burd on October 4, 2008 at 06:45 PM

A whole new generation has signed on to get this nation and our Party back on its feet.
Posted by SandyH

Not on this blog. Same old anal retentive select few still holding a grudge for losing that last two elections. Anyone new on here is just a name change.

2 losses, 3rd time's a charm!

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TheGreatGazoo on October 4, 2008 at 06:48 PM

48newsjunkie on October 4, 2008 at 06:31 PM

I am in one of the blue-est of Blue Obama states, but I live in an area that has voted republican most of the time. And I have seen an election or two. There were a lot of Bush signs around here in 2000 and 2004. Not many Kerry or Gore signs. There are WAY more Obama signs than McLame signs this time around. People have caught on.

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 06:55 PM

francespryor on October 4, 2008 at 06:36 PM

The short answer to your question is that the Oath of Office can take place anywhere, even in a secure location, as long as a federal judge administers the Oath. When President Keneedy was assassinated, Lyndon Johnson was sworn in by a federal judge on Air Force One, if memory serves.

While I can sympathize with your concerns, it would take a classic coup for President Bush to remain in office. I have confidence in our Armed Forces and the Secret Service to keep this from happening even in another 11SEP01 scenario or, God forbid, worse.

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BobVADemocratHawk on October 4, 2008 at 06:58 PM

mike_n_montana on October 4, 2008 at 06:07 PM

You're not alone, mike. There are others like yourself throughout your state and your country. We've let ourselves become exiles within our own land way too long.

The grassroots reaches out to any and all who want to make this land a better place again. We might be down right now but we aren't out.

I got a call just an hour ago from a young woman in Colorado who was a MoveOn volunteer. Her local group had adopted my zip code and was looking for Obama workers for the last weekend canvass events.
I call that impressive.

She had all the information and could even e-mail me a map and directions to the field office nearest me with two or three volunteer contacts and phone numbers. She apologized for not being able to pronounce the name of the street (it's an Osage Indian name which I'm sure she never encountered before.).

This is the same sort of coordination that I saw before the primaries started. I got e-mails from the Obama campaign looking for people from Missouri to work in Iowa on weekends...months before that first caucus. They do their homework, set priorities, build teams, and then give them direction.

We can re-build the greatness within this country again with the same kind of leadership. Montana is just as important as Florida. Howard Dean saw the potential where nobody else thought was possible. You are important and your ideas and energy can make the difference.

Don't ever think you are alone...ever again. I'd appreciate hearing your views on any issue whether they are less than glowing for Kerry or any other Democrat. We need your input.


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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 07:02 PM

TheGreatGazoo on October 4, 2008 at 06:48 PM

Oops. Looks like TheGreatPooh forgot something. The LAST election was in 2006. The republicans got their asses whipped. Any predictions this time around their pooh face?

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 07:04 PM

Dan_A_Cactus** on October 4, 2008 at 06:46 PM

Next Generation Swift Boaters

In 2004, Harold Simmons was the biggest funder of the manipulative smear group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. In 2008, Simmons is the sole donor funding a vicious attack ad in some battleground states that uses tortured logic and clumsy innuendo to invent a tie between Barack Obama and terrorism.

The ad goes completely beyond the pale by cynically exploiting the tragedy of 9/11 in an unfounded connection with Chicago academic William Ayers. Then it claims that Ayers somehow launched Barack Obamas career an assertion so outlandish that not even Simmons fellow discredited Swift Boater Jerome Corsi included it in his smear book.

The ad may even be a criminal violation of campaign finance laws. Simmons has previously been fined tens of thousands of dollars for campaign finance violations including forging the signatures of his own daughters to make political contributions from trust funds.

Minnesota Star Tribune: Swift Boater Behind Anti-Obama Ad

Texas billionaire Harold Simmons, a major backer of Republican John McCains presidential campaign and Swift Boat Veterans for Truth four years ago, is the sole donor to an advertisement attacking Democrat Barack Obama over his relationship with one-time radical activist William Ayers.

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/11/nextswiftboat

Bzzzzzt, I'm sorry Dan, that is incorrect. What's next, Sen. Obama is a closet Muslim hellbent on subjugating all caucasians and turning the White House into the new HQ for the Black Panthers? Oh yeah, y'all have tried that already.

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BobVADemocratHawk on October 4, 2008 at 07:05 PM

Have a good weekend fellow Democrats. Keep the Faith and keep the faith. The populist revolution has begun!

Yes we can!

Si se puede!

Change we can believe in!

Fight the Smears!

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BobVADemocratHawk on October 4, 2008 at 07:09 PM

Hey, look who showed up, Dufus Dan.

Poor, poor Dufus-Dan.
Head full of gas like a methane can.
Dumber than a post,
Stupider than most,
Spews his gas like a flatulent fan.

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 07:11 PM

Just the kind of guy America wants for president:



Palin: Obama 'palling around with terrorists'

VP nominee refers to Democrat's association with former 1960s radical

updated 1 hour, 21 minutes ago

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. - Sarah Palin on Saturday accused Democrat Barack Obama of "palling around with terrorists" because of his association with a former 1960s radical, stepping up the Republican campaign's effort to portray Obama as unacceptable to American voters.

The vice presidential candidate's reference was to Bill Ayers, one of the founders of the group the Weather Underground. Its members took credit for bombings, including nonfatal explosions at the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol, during the tumultuous Vietnam War era four decades ago. Obama, who was a child when the group was active, served on a charity board with Ayers several years ago and has denounced his radical views and activities.

The Republican campaign, falling behind Obama in polls, plans to make attacks on Obama's character a centerpiece of presidential candidate John McCain's message with a month remaining before Election Day.

Palin told a group of donors at a private airport, "Our opponent ... is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect, imperfect enough, that he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country." She also said, "This is not a man who sees America as you see America and as I see America."

Palin cited a New York Times story published Saturday that detailed Obama's relationship with Ayers.

Summing up its findings, the Times wrote: "A review of records of the schools project and interviews with a dozen people who know both men, suggest that Mr. Obama, 47, has played down his contacts with Mr. Ayers, 63. But the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called 'somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.'"

Oddly enough Nobama is OK with hanging around with him now that he's an adult.

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TheGreatGazoo on October 4, 2008 at 07:14 PM

TheGreatGazoo on October 4, 2008 at 06:48 PM

Has it ever occurred to you that they may be phone banking? Or blogging on a more secure site that doesn't allow your inane interruptions of real discussions about issues?

I find your simpering platitudes to Republican incompetents to be amusing. Others do not suffer fools. I'm sorry, but that's what they call you for never posting anything but GOP copy points and press releases or remarks made by paid conservative performers like Limbaugh.

Grow up and start thinking for yourself. Research an issue and come back here with some relevant articles with sources and links. You do yourself no favor by acting like a ventrilicist dummy.

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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 07:17 PM

Barack Obama is just so damned smart it makes you proud to be a Democrat. He knows how the republican slime machine works and how these trolls operate. He also has figured out better than any other how to use the internet. So he provides a great web site where we can all go to quickly debunk the lies of the likes of turd and dufus.
He is going to make a GREAT president.

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 07:20 PM

Dan_A_Cactus** on October 4, 2008 at 07:14 PM

Dufus, get a grip. So Obama's wife worked at a place where someone else did something wrong??? OOOHHHH wow.

And she ran a "juvenile program" that was grant funded? Gosh. Does that sound bad to anyone??

The clueless continue to support the republican party.

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 07:29 PM

If the recent past is any indication, Obama is more than ready for McLame and Caribou Barbie to go negative. People will see these attacks for what they are. Lame attempts to smear using inuendo, half truths or outright lies.

Dufus,Greatpoop and turd will eat it up and regurgitate it like the good little dupes they are.

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 07:35 PM

Palin told a group of donors at a private airport, "Our opponent ... is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect, imperfect enough, that he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country." She also said, "This is not a man who sees America as you see America and as I see America."

aftenoon demos. see the trolls are playing up chattie cathie's (not my name for palin, took off another blog) comments.

job loses, foreclosures, infrastructure needs and the that's the focus?

diversion time. on this blog does anyone really believe it's anything but a diversion hoping someone will bite and make it newsworthy...so what's up w/palin and troopergate? good question if we need a diversion from what the average person is concerned with. i guess when your mccain with 13 vehicles and ? houses, you surely wouldn't want anyone making that a topic... or maybe it should. especially folks facing foreclosure or can't purchase a car?

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america1st on October 4, 2008 at 07:36 PM
ELECTION 2008 Obama worked with terrorist Senator helped fund organization that rejects 'racist' Israel's existence Posted: February 24, 2008 5:44 pm Eastern

By Aaron Klein
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

JERUSALEM – The board of a nonprofit organization on which Sen. Barack Obama served as a paid director alongside a confessed domestic terrorist granted funding to a controversial Arab group that mourns the establishment of Israel as a "catastrophe" and supports intense immigration reform, including providing drivers licenses and education to illegal aliens.

The co-founder of the Arab group in question, Columbia University professor Rashid Khalidi, also has held a fundraiser for Obama. Khalidi is a harsh critic of Israel, has made statements supportive of Palestinian terror and reportedly has worked on behalf of the Palestine Liberation Organization while it was involved in anti-Western terrorism and was labeled by the State Department as a terror group.

In 2001, the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based nonprofit that describes itself as a group helping the disadvantaged, provided a $40,000 grant to the Arab American Action Network, or AAAN, for which Khalidi's wife, Mona, serves as president. The Fund provided a second grant to the AAAN for $35,000 in 2002.

Obama was a director of the Woods Fund board from 1999 to Dec. 11, 2002, according to the Fund's website. According to tax filings, Obama received compensation of $6,000 per year for his service in 1999 and 2000.

Obama served on the Wood's Fund board alongside William C. Ayers, a member of the Weathermen terrorist group which sought to overthrow of the U.S. government and took responsibility for bombing the U.S. Capitol in 1971.

Ayers, who still serves on the Woods Fund board, contributed $200 to Obama's senatorial campaign fund and has served on panels with Obama at numerous public speaking engagements. Ayers admitted to involvement in the bombings of U.S. governmental buildings in the 1970s. He is a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

The $40,000 grant from Obama's Woods Fund to the AAAN constituted about a fifth of the Arab group's reported grants for 2001, according to tax filings obtained by WND. The $35,000 Woods Fund grant in 2002 also constituted about one-fifth of AAAN's reported grants for that year.

The AAAN, headquartered in the heart of Chicago's Palestinian immigrant community, describes itself as working to "empower Chicago-area Arab immigrants and Arab Americans through the combined strategies of community organizing, advocacy, education and social services, leadership development, and forging productive relationships with other communities."

It reportedly has worked on projects with the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights, which supports open boarders and education for illegal aliens.

The AAAN in 2005 sent a letter to New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson in which it called a billboard opposing a North Carolina-New Mexico joint initiative to deny driver's licenses to illegal aliens a "bigoted attack on Arabs and Muslims."

Speakers at AAAN dinners and events routinely have taken an anti-Israel line.

The group co-sponsored a Palestinian art exhibit, titled, "The Subject of Palestine," that featured works related to what some Palestinians call the "Nakba" or "catastrophe" of Israel's founding in 1948.

According to the widely discredited Nakba narrative, Jews in 1948 forcibly expelled hundreds of thousands - some Palestinians claim over one million - Arabs from their homes and then took over the territory.

Historically, about 600,000 Arabs fled Israel after surrounding Arab countries warned they would destroy the Jewish state in 1948. Some Arabs also were driven out by Jewish forces while they were trying to push back invading Arab armies. At the same time, over 800,000 Jews were expelled or left Arab countries under threat after Israel was founded.

The theme of AAAN's Nakba art exhibit, held at DePaul University in 2005, was "the compelling and continuing tragedy of Palestinian life ... under [Israeli] occupation ... home demolition ... statelessness ... bereavement ... martyrdom, and ... the heroic struggle for life, for safety, and for freedom."

Another AAAN initiative, titled, "Al Nakba 1948 as experienced by Chicago Palestinians," seeks documents related to the "catastrophe" of Israel's founding.

A post on the AAAN site asked users: "Do you have photos, letters or other memories you could share about Al-Nakba-1948?"

That posting was recently removed. The AAAN website currently states the entire site is under construction.

Pro-PLO advocate held Obama fundraiser, describes Obama as 'sympathetic'

AAAN co-founder Rashid Khalidi was reportedly a director of the official PLO press agency WAFA in Beirut from 1976 to 1982, while the PLO committed scores of anti-Western attacks and was labeled by the U.S. as a terror group. Khalidi's wife, AAAN President Mona Khalidi, was reportedly WAFA's English translator during that period.

Rashid Khalidi at times has denied working directly for the PLO but Palestinian diplomatic sources in Ramallah told WND he indeed worked on behalf of WAFA. Khalidi also advised the Palestinian delegation to the Madrid Conference in 1991.

During documented speeches and public events, Khalidi has called Israel an "apartheid system in creation" and a destructive "racist" state.

He has multiple times expressed support for Palestinian terror, calling suicide bombings response to "Israeli aggression." He dedicated his 1986 book, "Under Siege," to "those who gave their lives ... in defense of the cause of Palestine and independence of Lebanon." Critics assailed the book as excusing Palestinian terrorism.

While the Woods Fund's contribution to Khalidi's AAAN might be perceived as a one-time run in with Obama, the presidential hopeful and Khalidi evidence a deeper relationship.

According to a professor at the University of Chicago who said he has known Obama for 12 years, the Democratic presidential hopeful first befriended Khalidi when the two worked together at the university. The professor spoke on condition of anonymity. Khalidi lectured at the University of Chicago until 2003 while Obama taught law there from 1993 until his election to the Senate in 2004.

Khalidi in 2000 held what was described as a successful fundraiser for Obama's failed bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives, a fact not denied by Khalidi.

Speaking in a joint interview with WND and the John Batchelor Show of New York's WABC Radio and Los Angeles' KFI Radio, Khalidi was asked about his 2000 fundraiser for Obama.

"I was just doing my duties as a Chicago resident to help my local politician," Khalidi stated.

Khalidi said he supports Obama for president "because he is the only candidate who has expressed sympathy for the Palestinian cause."

Khalidi also lauded Obama for "saying he supports talks with Iran. If the U.S. can talk with the Soviet Union during the Cold War, there is no reason it can't talk with the Iranians."

Asked about Obama's role funding the AAAN, Khalidi claimed he had "never heard of the Woods Fund until it popped up on a bunch of blogs a few months ago."

He terminated the call when petitioned further about his links with Obama.

Contacted by phone, Mona Khalidi refused to answer WND's questions about the AAAN's involvement with Obama.

Obama's campaign headquarters did not reply to a list of WND questions sent by e-mail to the senator's press office.

Obama, American terrorist in same circles

Obama served on the board with Ayers, who was a Weathermen leader and has written about his involvement with the group's bombings of the New York City Police headquarters in 1970, the Capitol in 1971 and the Pentagon in 1972.

"I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough," Ayers told the New York Times in an interview released on Sept. 11, 2001

"Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon," Ayers wrote in his memoirs, titled "Fugitive Days." He continued with a disclaimer that he didn't personally set the bombs, but his group set the explosives and planned the attack.

A $200 campaign contribution is listed on April 2, 2001 by the "Friends of Barack Obama" campaign fund. The two taught appeared speaking together at several public events, including a 1997 University of Chicago panel entitled, "Should a child ever be called a 'super predator?'" and another panel for the University of Illinois in April 2002, entitled, "Intellectuals: Who Needs Them?"

The charges against Ayers were dropped in 1974 because of prosecutorial misconduct, including illegal surveillance.

Ayers is married to another notorious Weathermen terrorist, Bernadine Dohrn, who has also served on panels with Obama. Dohrn was once on the FBI's Top 10 Most Wanted List and was described by J. Edgar Hoover as the "most dangerous woman in America." Ayers and Dohrn raised the son of Weathermen terrorist Kathy Boudin, who was serving a sentence for participating in a 1981 murder and robbery that left 4 people dead.

Obama advisor wants talks with terrorists

The revelations about Obama's relationship with Khalidi follows a recent WND article quoting Israeli security officials who expressed "concern" about Robert Malley, an adviser to Obama who has advocated negotiations with Hamas and providing international assistance to the terrorist group.

Malley, a principal Obama foreign policy adviser, has penned numerous opinion articles, many of them co-written with a former adviser to the late Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat, petitioning for dialogue with Hamas and blasting Israel for numerous policies he says harm the Palestinian cause.

Malley also previously penned a well-circulated New York Review of Books piece largely blaming Israel for the collapse of the Israeli-Palestinian negotiations at Camp David in 2000 when Arafat turned down a Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza and eastern sections of Jerusalem and instead returned to the Middle East to launch an intifada, or terrorist campaign, against the Jewish state.

Malley's contentions have been strongly refuted by key participants at Camp David, including President Bill Clinton, then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak and primary U.S. envoy to the Middle East Dennis Ross, all of whom squarely blamed Arafat's refusal to make peace for the talks' failure.

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TheGreatGazoo on October 4, 2008 at 07:40 PM

What a bunch of roving misinformation. I see that the local troll population can't come up with anything that is accurate so they revert to old news, quoting faux, and acting like anything Sarah said could possibly be contrived as the truth. That sure put us in our place. She sure told us. This attack is coming so strong now for the same reason they released her crooked tax returns on a friday, to distract the voters from the issues. Well, I've got bad news for them, half of the people who were suckered into voting bush for a second term by lies and "swift boating" aren't in a position to be fooled again. They pawned their tv's! It's hard to watch faux news when you live in a tent outside of reno. So, spread your lies. Actually, keep spreading them here. That's a good idea. I'm sure that you will start changing our minds any minute.

By the way, I live in Missoula, not Butte.
I'm going to be staying on this blog for a while now because I love playing troll tag. You should have just let me be.

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mike_n_montana on October 4, 2008 at 07:48 PM

Dufus is again proving himself to be a dufus.

Republicans -- led by the Governor of Missouri and the Republican National Committee -- are alleging that there is something untoward about the "Truth Squad" the Obama campaign has set up in the "Show Me" State. The problem, these Republicans say, is that these "Truth Squad" members are prosecutors and sheriffs with law enforcement powers, thus creating an atmosphere where Missourians might be afraid of being prosecuted for criticizing Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill.

There is no evidence, however, that these prosecutors are threatening to use their prosecutorial powers in such a way.

And despite GOP complaints that the mere presence of prosecutors on the "Truth Squad" could intimidate Obama's critics, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and his running mate Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin have used prosecutors on their "Truth Squads" too, prompting no complaints from the GOP at the time.

**

The Missouri Truth Squad, an Obama campaign press release stated last week, would “respond quickly, forcefully, and aggressively when John McCain or his allies launch inaccurate claims or character attacks about Barack Obama, or when they distort Barack Obama’s record or plans.”

So what's the problem?

Read the artilcle, get a clue.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/attacking-obama.html

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 07:50 PM

trolls do good for dnc...

evening demos...i think i've figured it out. the gazoos and dans and sallys are either trying to change us or hope to use up enough space on the blog to create havoc. either way, it's good for the demo party. they aren't spending time registering new voters and convincing no one here. so essentially, they're good for the blog. only problem is the (gutter) language. actually, it's very good for the dnc.

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america1st on October 4, 2008 at 07:52 PM

Did you actually just post something off of world net daily? Are you serious? Please, go look at that web site if you've never seen it. It's pathetic! You might as well put up quotes from the kkk web site that "prove obama's a terrorist". How stupid do you have to be? This is going to be fun.

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mike_n_montana on October 4, 2008 at 07:54 PM

TheGreatGazoo on October 4, 2008 at 07:40 PM

Greatpoop,
Here's a clue. When you post a REALLY long article like that which you usually get from some nut-job political hack site, NO ONE is going to read it except Turd and Dufus. And that's not because of political affiliation. Its because everyone else on here is smart enough to know it is a waste of there time. Here is what I do. When I see a really long post like that, I scan to the bottom. When I see it is from a known fool such as yourself, I skip it.
Fool.

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 07:54 PM

By the way, I live in Missoula, not Butte.
I'm going to be staying on this blog for a while now because I love playing troll tag. You should have just let me be.

mike_n_montana on October 4, 2008 at 07:48 PM

Mike,
Good. Come on back. I like playing Whack-a-troll as well. Its kind of like shooting fish in a barrel. Dufus, Turd and Greatpoop make great targets.

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 08:01 PM

You should have just let me be.
Posted by mike_n_montana

OMG!!!! We've awakened a sleeping bear! Everyone, drop your goat and head for the hills!!!

That was for greggy.

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TheGreatGazoo on October 4, 2008 at 08:04 PM

Great Pain in the You Know What,

We've been over this way to many times. Obama was 8 years old. I once sat across from Paul Newman on a plane. Does that mean I was a movie producer?

If Palin wants to play the part of a bimbo, she sure has the talent and skills to pull it off. Give her a wardrobe to match it.

So this is all your side has left to work with?

She also said, "This is not a man who sees America as you see America and as I see America."

You betcha. Neither do I see America the way she does.

According to Palin's calculations, she's more Russian than she's American. Her attempts to socialize oil profits in Alaska and redistribute them to the masses smacks of Communistic tendencies.

She's also been palling around with the oil industry. She must be a member of OPEC. That raises all kinds of terrorist red flags?

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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 08:05 PM

america1st on October 4, 2008 at 07:52 PM

I agree. I think having trolls like Dufus, turd and greatpooh in here show EVERYONE what it means to be a republican in this post-George-Bush era. Anyone who can't understand how bad the rethug's have been for this country IS a dufus and should be a republican. Others coming in will see that.

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 08:09 PM

Cactus, you can throw all the rocks, you want to, but you still are going to lose. Now go to the blackboard, and put you nose in the circle.


214Dan_A_Cactus** on October 4, 2008 at 06:52 PMDon't waste your time here Cactus, you can get 2 to 1 odds, at several on line casino's. Put your money where your, big mouth is.

215chassie on October 4, 2008 at 06:53 PMI blogged on barack's website that he needs to do an ad showing that McCain wanted to privatize social security. Can you imagine the scare that would be, when the markets are swinging wildly with speculation. The 50 and overs won't vote McCain if they know that.

I also said he needs to do an ad showing McCain voted for CAFTA. I googled, "who voted for cafta" McCain voted for it and barack did an open letter stating why he would not support it. This would really pull in the working class white males in Penn., MI, OH and elsewhere.

Hopefully he has already done it.

Bye, bye repubicans.

216newsjunkie on October 4, 2008 at 06:58

PMPosted by Dan_A_Cactus** on October 4, 2008 at 06:52 PM

You'll still lose dopey one, whether i take a map on not. You should go and drink some shine, since, you have a glow on, already. It will be clear to even you dopey one's this time next week.

217chassie on October 4, 2008 at 07:00 PMPosted by newsjunkie on October 4, 2008 at 06:58 PM

How right you are News, we got the young folks from 18 to 30, and the old folks from 50 to 65, seeing there money, dissipate. The pugs don't have a chance in hell.

218chassie on October 4, 2008 at 07:03 PMi take a map on not


Nap Robert, NAP.

You know how goofy you get when you have been up three days.

219Dan_A_Cactus** on October 4, 2008 at 07:09 PMCactus did i mention that the majority of the baby boomers, and a majority of the young folks are going to vote for Obama. Where does that leave your German Ass at?

220chassie on October 4, 2008 at 07:09 PMi take a map on not

I did that on purpose German, cuz i knew you would bite. Now go to the blackboard, and put your big nose in the chalk circle.

221chassie on October 4, 2008 at 07:12 PMGood night Dems, going to town, and help raise the economy, have a good night and a better tomorrow. Blog you all tommorrow.


223Dan_A_Cactus** on October 4, 2008 at 07:19 PM


Hazing, is an often ritualistic test and a task, which may constitute harassment, abuse or humiliation with requirements to perform random, often meaningless tasks, sometimes as a way of initiation into a social group. The definition can refer to either physical (sometimes violent) or mental (possibly degrading) practices; it may also include an 'erotic' element (notably nudity).


This is good definition of the resident asshat, trolls. HONK HONK HONK HONK HONK HONK.

224chassie on October 4, 2008 at 07:22 PM

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chassie on October 4, 2008 at 08:10 PM

She's also been palling around with the oil industry. She must be a member of OPEC. That raises all kinds of terrorist red flags?

90SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 08:05 PM

Sandy,
So true. And what about McLame. I think he spent some time having tea with the North Vietnamese. I'ver heard brain-washing sometimes takes decades to play out.

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 08:16 PM

Hazing, is an often ritualistic test and a task, which may constitute harassment, abuse or humiliation with requirements to perform random, often meaningless tasks, sometimes as a way of initiation into a social group. The definition can refer to either physical (sometimes violent) or mental (possibly degrading) practices; it may also include an 'erotic' element (notably nudity).


This is good definition of the resident asshat, trolls. HONK HONK HONK HONK HONK HONK.


Where is frosty, and harpo? I liked them names better then the Great Gazoo, and Sally.

HEE HEE>

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chassie on October 4, 2008 at 08:17 PM

Hazing, is an often ritualistic test and a task, which may constitute harassment, abuse or humiliation with requirements to perform random, often meaningless tasks, sometimes as a way of initiation into a social group. The definition can refer to either physical (sometimes violent) or mental (possibly degrading) practices; it may also include an 'erotic' element (notably nudity).


This is good definition of the resident asshat, trolls. HONK HONK HONK HONK HONK HONK.


Where is frosty, and harpo? I liked them names better then the Great Gazoo, and Sally.

HEE HEE

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chassie on October 4, 2008 at 08:19 PM

"All you are doing Sandy, is making yourself look very insecure as a woman. Do you feel dumb, ugly or old?"

"Well, looks like Robert, just fell apart again."

Looks like Dufus continues to post comments that don't make any sense and have nothing to do with anything of consequence.

Dufus is a typical republican dupe.

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 08:22 PM

So, Dufus, what do you think of your man McLame's lame attempts to capitalize on the bailout for political gain? You know, the "I'm suspending my campaign" stunt where he didn't suspend his campaign. Can you put three coherent thoughts together on the subject and share them with us???
Hmmm?

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 08:25 PM

Palin said____________________________________Wink Wink Wink. That was so hilarious. Wink Wink.

Just a empty airhead, Wink Wink.

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chassie on October 4, 2008 at 08:27 PM

Posted by Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 08:09 PM

chicago,

yep. the issues of lost jobs, health care, and foreclosures. mccain and palin are lost. so, attack with a new method ... obama as a terrorist. next it'll be biden. oh wait, maybe when biden went to that lowes store the cashier was a 60's radical?

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america1st on October 4, 2008 at 08:30 PM

I think maybe, these trolls on here are a LOT like Sarah "Caribou-Barbie" Palin. They can regurgitate talking points and use those to attack, but when asked to answer questions, well they sort of fall apart. Because they can't think for themselves. In the vein of Bush, all hat, no cattle.

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 08:30 PM

I have to step out for a while.
BBL

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 08:32 PM

I have to step out for a while.
Posted by Chicago

One can only hope that you are on a ledge.

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TheGreatGazoo on October 4, 2008 at 08:34 PM

Cactus the odds are 2 to 1 at several on line casinos, you can bet 10,000 for example and win 20,000. on McNuts. But my guess is you would not bet 1 dollar, if the odds was 1000 to 1, if you had to put your Money on the line. You know that McNuts, and whats her name, is cooked ass-hats, if you would admit the truth, but you would never do that would you?

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chassie on October 4, 2008 at 08:34 PM

Posted by Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 08:30 PM

actually chicago, i like the name for palin on another blog ..."chattie cathy." all fluff and no substance aka knowledge. notice it's not mccain doing the talking. i suppose he'll save it for the debate. let chattie make the talking points and keep the focus off the crisis in our economy... JOBS--FORECLOSURES--HEALTH CARE ... TAKE COVER, BIDEN IS ASSOCIATING WITH A TERRORIST, HE IS OBAMA.

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america1st on October 4, 2008 at 08:35 PM

I think pathetic is the perfect word for you trolls and I believe I will continue to use it. Every time you drool out some stupid, debunked, misleading, right wing BS, I will call it what it is. If you want me to come up with a new word for that, I guess I can. How about I call all your lies, slander, ignorance, and off topic rants, let's see.........Ha, got it. Palinesque.

There, new word.

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mike_n_montana on October 4, 2008 at 08:38 PM

Palin says the Iraqi war, is from God.

Wink Wink Wink!!!!!!!!!!

What a assine idiot. Pathetic.

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chassie on October 4, 2008 at 08:45 PM

Lap top dancer, that's a good one. It doesn't make any sense, but it's great. Good come back.

You put me on my guard with your cleverness. I will try to be more clever.

McCain is old!
dudu
Palin is just a stupid woman! Huck Huck

There, now we're intellectual equals.
Oh shoot, I forgot to post someone else's work like it was
A) confirmed &
B) my own info.

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mike_n_montana on October 4, 2008 at 08:46 PM

Posted by Dan_A_Cactus** on October 4, 2008 at 08:40 PM


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Only a cliff dweller, and a hazer, would even respond, with such a idiotic statement.

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chassie on October 4, 2008 at 08:48 PM

Evening all good Dems,

I think it is time to point out that mcgeezer was one of the Keating Five who brought about the last great banking collapse. If I recall correctly, wasn't the brother of mcgeezer's twin in the White House up to his eyeballs too?

And how about him spilling his guts in Hanoi and endangering our troops in Vietnam. According to the Code of Military Justice, he had a duty to escape but didn't even try. That's a court martial offense. At a recent subsequent reunion Hanoi, he actually hugged his guard. Is he gay?

Then we have his dealings with abramoff. I am sure this was an honest relationship. NOT.

I am sick of these sleaze repukes smearing Democrats. Maybe we need to smear back in spades.

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Johne on October 4, 2008 at 08:50 PM

Pammy sees corruption everywhere. Except her sleazy own Senator Dodd.


3Sally-* on October 4, 2008 at 02:55 PM>


hey slimeball, If Chris Dodd is guilty, then let's put him in line to be punished right behind all the Republican criminals and corrupt POS s. Shall I list them all for you again? You and AZ Danny seem to have small memories. Sign of small intelligence!

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PamB on October 4, 2008 at 08:52 PM

Greeting Johne!

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chassie on October 4, 2008 at 08:53 PM

Oh No! Say it ain't so !!! LMAO!!!

GOP Strategists Whisper Fears Of Greater Losses in November

»
by: Chris Cillizza and Shailagh Murray, The Washington Post


With the party already struggling to generate enthusiasm for its brand, Republican strategists fear that an outpouring of public anger generated by Congress's struggle to pass a rescue package for the financial industry may contribute to a disaster at the polls for the GOP in November.

"The crisis has affected the entire ticket," said Jan van Lohuizen, a Republican consultant who handled the polling for President Bush's reelection campaign. "The worse the state's economy, the greater the impact

http://www.truthout.org/100408A

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PamB on October 4, 2008 at 08:54 PM

Where is Robert?

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chassie on October 4, 2008 at 08:55 PM
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Esmeralda on October 4, 2008 at 08:55 PM

"Then we have his dealings with abramoff. I am sure this was an honest relationship. NOT."

johne,

point well made. suppose mccain was meeting w/crooks.

"Maybe we need to smear back in spades."

1st you have to get the media's attention. but that's exactly what "we" and "media" should do. and this trooper gate that palin and mccain are trying to shut down.

leaving for the evening ... keep the trolls busy here. keeps them from being productive, like registering voters.

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america1st on October 4, 2008 at 08:55 PM

That's right pugs' keep on coming after me. It doesn't make you look cowardly or stupid or narrow minded or out of talking points to regurgitate.
I am also really glad to see that you've all decided to get involved.

Why don't you start bringing up some other discredited BS instead of just acting like a bunch of school yard thugs.

Fact of the matter is, you're on a losing team. Sucks for you.

John McCain is a corrupt, lying, power hungry old man. Sarah Palin in a crazy narcissist who will say what ever she has to to get her way. That is just how things are, but you just keep hanging in there and keep insulting the people who are proving your failed ideals to be "pathetic". If that is the way you want to do things, I'm sure your failed party will reward you with $.08 per reply post. They've got all of the money they need, clearly you don't so I don't mind helping out.

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mike_n_montana on October 4, 2008 at 09:07 PM

Dan,

You amaze me with how you can open up so many opportunities for the rest of us to debunk your half ass attempts to skew the truth.

Dems deny Missouri "truth squad" amounts to intimidation

By SCOTT CANON
The Kansas City Star

It began as a St. Louis television story about Barack Obama standing tough against unfair attack ads. It became a Republican accusation that he was bullying critics.

When Obama included prosecutors and sheriffs on his “truth squad,” the intent was to add integrity to debunking ads. But Republicans said the presence of law officers chilled legitimate Obama opposition and support for Republican John McCain...

Dan_A_Cactus** on October 4, 2008 at 07:38 PM

As I recall Guilani and The Flipper were part of a "Truth Squad" sent by the RNC to the Democratic Convention. And guess what? They didn't give chills or thrills to the MSM or to anybody else in Colorado for that matter.

Little Matt Blunt, our esteemed dumbbell Republican Governor, thought someone was intimidating him? All those policemen and prosecutors made him think he might be indicted?

Is that the real reason why the Missouri RNC told him not to run for re-election? Or was it just because he's less popular in downstate Missouri than John Kerry?

The Boy Wonder pulled Medicaid covered from so many poor children and the disabled while closing all the rural clinics, he got the Scrooge Award. He's effectively made it necessary for people in Northwest Missouri to drive to Chicago to see a specialist. His policy was a real crowd pleaser with the Bible Belt in the Southern part of the state as well.

If you can't face a truth squad with people of authority on it, you've got plenty to hide...like all kinds of dirty tricks? The Obama campaign was yet again on top of the situation.

It just kills the Far Right that we are always one step ahead of them now. All those years of funding voter suppression techniques and now they can't use them...because they are afraid of the authorities?

We ready for them on election day, too. There's going to be a lot of off-duty union people in uniform working the polls. Don't even think about trying something fancy. We have union nurse volunteers available to sew up any of the resulting collateral damage.

Good try at distortion, but no cigar.

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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 09:15 PM

Pam do you have a brother named Robert, or perhaps a friend by that name?

The German seems to be stuck on Robert. I think that Robert must of left him. And he feels emotional about it. Poor Poor German.

Maybe he'll volunteer, and go to Iraqi, and find a Muslim Robert.

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chassie on October 4, 2008 at 09:17 PM

Evening, Dems. Wish I could hang around and put up some more Posts about how badly McCain, Palin, Republicans are doing, but I have to log out.

McCain has absolutely NOTHING left, except negative lies . Not that he had anything to begin with, outside of his 'poor pitiful me, I was such a bad pilot I got shot down and spent 5 years telling every single American secret I could think of". And now Palin with her fear mongering Terrorist bullshit---which will backfire on her ass sure as shit!


Smile for the night:

http://news.yahoo.com/election/2008/dashboard

Obama = 330 Electoral votes

McCain = 175 electoral votes !


This is all that matters ! Doesn't take any silly Bradley effect into consideration or anything. Just those electoral votes !!!
Keep em coming!


Nite, fine Dems. Remember Monday last day in many states to get your registrations in. Register a Voter tomorrow ! Get it to town hall on Monday.

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PamB on October 4, 2008 at 09:18 PM

You know, it's no small wonder that the leadership of John McCain has led you trolls to keep up these small minded attacks on anyone who brings up the issues. I guess that is the main campaign strategy of the GOP. Your attempts to steer us off topic are reminiscent of everything that I've seen from your leadership.

The fact still remains that your candidate, and by extension you, support the failed policies of George Bush. That the country is ready for change, and change is not what you have. That you're on the verge of a loss in states that you've carried for decades. And most importantly, that there is nothing you, or your fell party, can do about it.

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mike_n_montana on October 4, 2008 at 09:21 PM

McNuts, and Palin, should hitch a ride on the next space shuttle, to no where, and go for a moon walk together without a space suit. And hopefully they'll take the Chimp, Cheney, and Rove with them on a Moon Walk to no where.

Now that's funny, what a gas.

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chassie on October 4, 2008 at 09:28 PM

Esmeralda on October 4, 2008 at 08:55 PM

Essie,

I don't know why she bothered to use index cards. From her performance it appears that all the cards had drawings of either a winking smiley face or a pit bull. And oil pipelines.

You betcha.

My favorite moment was when she corrected Biden on the proper oil industry jargon...."It's drill baby drill...not drill, drill, drill."

Can't you just see Rove now in those practice sessions with a pointer sticking her in the gut every time she got it wrong? Or was he whacking her on the hand that was bandaged?

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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 09:29 PM

chassie on October 4, 2008 at 09:28 PM

I could see The Chimp as part of a risky new Chinese space experiment where they don't want to risk a real monkey.

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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 09:31 PM

I could see The Chimp as part of a risky new Chinese space experiment where they don't want to risk a real monkey.

Posted by SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 09:31 PM


Sandy that was really a gas, i'm still laughing, please don't do this to me. I'm hurting myself.

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chassie on October 4, 2008 at 09:41 PM

mike_n_montana on October 4, 2008 at 09:21 PM

You have that right. You can't reason with them because they are paid to be stupid. Or they just enjoy acting like children.

I don't know if you have seen the slide show that they run every night after Midnight on bogus global warming articles. It's an absolute exercise in futility. But they keep doing it night after night. It's like one of them has an obsession with Al Gore...although he's been showing signs of changing his affection for Chris Dodd of late.

They accuse us of never posting anything positive about Obama, but they can't even bring themselves to mention Bush's name any longer...or McCain's name for that matter. Without the lovely Sarah life would not be worth living anymore?

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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 09:42 PM

John McCain is a corrupt, lying, power hungry old man. Sarah Palin in a crazy narcissist who will say what ever she has to to get her way.
=========================


See,

That's not "clever", just juvenile nonsense.
128DAN_A_CACTUS** ON OCTOBER 4, 2008 AT 09:17 PM


Actually, it's just the facts maam'
McCain is oldhttp://www.livescience.com/health/050228_life_expectancy.html

and Palin is a Narcissist
http://www.livescience.com/health/050228_life_expectancy.html
As for McCain being corrupt, power hungry, and lying, well, I just thought we could take that as a given because of the ton of evidence that is kind of, well, everywhere.

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mike_n_montana on October 4, 2008 at 09:44 PM

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (Oct. 4) - Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin on Saturday accused Democrat Barack Obama of "palling around with terrorists" because of an old association with a former '60s radical, stepping up an effort to portray Obama as unacceptable to American voters.

She's a fu**king sleaze bitch. Anyone who would vote for McCain and this bimbo deserves to be deported.... they're not fit to be Americans

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Screwum on October 4, 2008 at 09:44 PM

Dan_A_Cactus** on October 4, 2008 at 09:36 PM

Sort of like taking away habeas corpus and legalizing waterboarding?

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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 09:45 PM

woops. wrong link on the narcissist thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

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mike_n_montana on October 4, 2008 at 09:47 PM

Dan_A_Cactus** on October 4, 2008 at 09:42 PM

That was an honest mistake.

"There will be mushroom clouds."
"They will meet us with flowers and sweets."

...those were outright lies and mistakes that changed the course of history.

You have no sense of proportion and that's why your mistakes are always huge and involve real suffering.

btw, how safe do you think is your retirement?

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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 09:50 PM

PamB on October 4, 2008 at 09:18 PM

Pam,

That's what counts...electoral votes. And we aren't hanging on by a thread in just one or two states to make the magic number this time. We have four or five different ways to reach it with like 20 different states in play.

They have to get Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Colorado...all of them. And there is a very real possibility that they won't even get a few of the border states and some Southern states.

Nobody likes McCain.

And more and more women, authoritarian men, and all the Independents are beginning to be annoyed by Palin if not outright sick of her routine.

Can you believe she thinks she's going to be as powerful as Cheney? McCain better watch his back. Or have Cindy do it since he seems oblivious to what going on around him these days.

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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 10:04 PM

Wow, that has nothing at all to do with what I was talking about, but okay.

Lets take the conservative stance and cut off social assistance programs. Let's see where that gets us. We'll be like third world counties everywhere just letting the masses die while the majority get rich. Do you think you will be amongst the great or the gone?


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mike_n_montana on October 4, 2008 at 10:05 PM

meant the minority

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mike_n_montana on October 4, 2008 at 10:06 PM

Can't let a slip like that stay unanswered too long or they will start acting like it's the parties policy because some blogger made a typo.

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mike_n_montana on October 4, 2008 at 10:08 PM

Dan_A_Cactus** on October 4, 2008 at 10:02 PM

Nobody would give any Texas politician an award for honesty. But LBJ is dead.

Spunky, Cheney, and Condi are still in office and could start another bogus foreign entanglement if we don't watch them like a hawk.

You Republicans don't like oversight, do you? People auditing books? Checking facts? Investigating treasonous crimes?

"Trust us...with your money, your jobs, the life of your sons and daughters. We'll take good care of all of them." Sure you GOP bastards will.

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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 10:11 PM

On Bill Maher last night Alec Baldwin kept doing the palin wink, wink thing. It is such a stupid, unimaginative, juvenille trick to try to con people. Know what I mean, wink, wink.

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newsjunkie on October 4, 2008 at 10:31 PM

Below is an invisable link, because I am majic, of Brian Williams on David Letterman, pretty good stuff. So McCain uses the excuse that because Keith is on MSNBC he won't let Brian interview her. Barack went of Fixed News with Billo the Clown.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/04/brian-williams-on-the-lat_n_131858.html

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newsjunkie on October 4, 2008 at 10:34 PM

Guidelines Expand FBI's Surveillance Powers

Techniques May Be Used in U.S. Without Any Fact Linking Subject to Terrorism

By Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, October 4, 2008

Justice Department officials released new guidelines yesterday that empower FBI agents to use intrusive techniques to gather intelligence within the United States, alarming civil liberties groups and Democratic lawmakers who worry that they invite privacy violations and other abuses.

The new road map allows investigators to recruit informants, employ physical surveillance and conduct interviews in which agents disguise their identities in an effort to assess national security threats. FBI agents could pursue each of those steps without any single fact indicating a person has ties to a terrorist organization...

Caroline Fredrickson, director of the ACLU's Washington legislative office, said: "Since, under these guidelines, a generalized 'threat' is enough to begin an investigation, the FBI will be given carte blanche to begin surveillance without factual evidence. . . . These guidelines will lead to political witch hunts and more unwarranted investigations of political enemies and peace groups."...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/03/AR2008100303501.html

(Emphasis mine.)

Witch hunts? Isn't that Palin's field of expertise?

So the Republicans are going after political demonstrators not terrorists any longer? I don't recall any Petra members flying those jets on 9/11. So it's come to this?

These people are not only power-hungry they are paranoid in ways that even Nixon would find crazy. The Republicans don't trust any of their own citizens.

Can't you just see the Fourth Branch with Palin at its helm going after that librarian in Missula for holding a book club meeting? How about the ex-brother-in-law for holding a poker game at a VFW hall?

These people need to be removed from office and put under surveillance themselves after they're gone...before they shoot someone who they think might dare to exercise their Constitutional rights to assembly.

These Nazis are going after one Constitutional Amendment after another. The Bill of Rights is their enemy? Where is Bob Barr and Ron Paul on this?

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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 10:43 PM

Dan_A_Cactus** on October 4, 2008 at 10:31 PM

Time for "Saturday Night Live?" Sorry, I don't think Tina Fey is doing Palin tonight.

You might as well stay here and tell us more fairy tales about how the Republicans didn't deregulate everything that moves in the markets for the past 30 years.

It's all Dodd's fault? Why aren't you blaming Clinton? He's always the RNC scapegoat of first resort. You do realize he's going to be campaigning for Obama in all those states you Republicans "must have" as well as the ones that have weak incumbent Republican Senators?

And Hillary is going to do the same. The next few weeks are going to be wall-to-wall Clintons. It will seem like old times. I know you just can't get enough of them.

Sweet dreams.

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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 10:58 PM

I think I'll get off of here for a bit too. I'll be back in a bit.

Oh, and just for the record, Biden was one of the few senators trying to get legislation to allow the Bush administration to go after WMD's but nothing else. When that was no longer an option, he voted the only other way he could accept what with the "fact" that Iraq had WMD's and the intent to use them against us. You can't fault him for that.

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mike_n_montana on October 4, 2008 at 11:08 PM

Evening Sandy,

NPR radio had barr on this morning. His platform is blaming bill clinton for lying. He didn't even mention the war crimes committed by bush and his gang. He said we should leave Iraq at once and not look back, we don't belong there. He ranted on about the usual libertarian crap.

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Johne on October 4, 2008 at 11:17 PM

Hi all you great Democrats. Good to see you all on and energized. And isn't it telling that the only troll left appears to be Dufus Dan? All the other trolls seem to at least have been smart enough to get out when they were looking like idiots. NOT Dufus Dan. He just keeps right on posting his stupid comments that everyone else can see are idiotic. Poor, poor Dufus Dan. Destined to be a republican dupe for life.

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 11:22 PM

newsjunkie on October 4, 2008 at 10:34 PM

news,

Do you think that Brian Williams will ever get an interview?

The poor man had the same look about him that "Cheers" Sam got when Diane coxed him into proposing time and again and then she would said "No." He's sick of being toyed with and would love to say so. Maybe he will before the end of this election season.

Maybe Obama will give him the first interview after he wins?

It's always fun and games with the McCain campaign. They aren't straight shooters. They're just gamblers who are so afraid someone will guess how little they hold in their hand...or their heads.

Well, I'm going to call it a day.

Good night, everyone.

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SandyH on October 4, 2008 at 11:25 PM

Okay, I was wrong.
Sally is still posting so he is evidently just as stupid as dufus Dan. Now there is an accomplishment for you.
Sorry for leaving you out of the Dufus squad Sally. You've certainly earned inclusion in that group. Congratulations. You parents must be so proud.

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 11:27 PM

It is really sad what the likes of Karl Rove and George Bush have done to politics in this country. We have about a month before the election, and because McLame is falling behind in the polling, his campaign has decided to "go negative". What kind of a "patriotic American" is that? All he cares about is winning.

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 11:34 PM

chicago,

trolls and palin-mccain are desperate.

like we've all said, it's clear mcmoney and chattie cathie have no solution to the economic-health crisis, so change the debate.

and if they could pull it off they'd say biden is hanging around with a terrorist, obama.

somehow, they missed again, it's the economy stupid(s).

i use to post here regularly, but find the trolls clog the blog. yet, this is good. as i said, keeps them from registering voters.

back later or tomorrow. give the trolls more space to place.

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america1st on October 4, 2008 at 11:37 PM

I shouldn't be surprised. McLame has proven that the only thing he cares about is himself. He cheated on his first wife after she waited for him to come home. While waiting, she was in an accident that required many operations. So she was not the "swimsuit model" she used to be. So John cheats on her and divorces her for a younger, richer woman. What a typical republican.
So much for family values.

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 11:42 PM

Good night america1st. See you tomorrow.

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 11:48 PM

I'm thinking Saturday Night Live's ratings have gone way up since they started spoofing Caribou Barbie. Anyone have any data to confirm or deny that theory???

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Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 11:51 PM

Gosh darn it, I just can't get over how palin is such a blank slate when it comes to anything haveing to do about anything other than Alaska.

Remember on the campaign trail, right before they cut her mike off for good, when she said that Fannie and Freddie were being taken over by the govt. because they were becoming too costly for the govt. WTF

Then in the couric interview she thinks the Bailout was going to shore up Healthcare? WTF

This is an atrocity to the people of the united states of america. How dare they put someone out there that doesn't understand basic concepts of current political and financial circumstance in the United States. They will pay dearly for this one.

If John McCain had picked Mitt Romney he would have a much closer race. He wouldn't be bailing out of Michigan. These two just might be the dumbest people in politic's I've ever seen.

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newsjunkie on October 4, 2008 at 11:58 PM

Posted by Chicago on October 4, 2008 at 11:42 PM

Interesting that you say that. My sister, that doesn't have the time to keep up with politics, must be nice, political ignorance is bliss, stated that about McCain after the debate the other night between palin and biden. I think she is using it in her decision about the candidates and their integrity. She said something about how McCain did that to his wife shows his true character. I wonder how many others like her will do the same in weighing out barack and mcshame.

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newsjunkie on October 5, 2008 at 12:10 AM

169newsjunkie on October 4, 2008 at 11:58 PM

News,
You are absolutely right. I think the Palin pick seemed like a good idea at first. Then people got to know her. I guess the best analogy would be like if someone showed up at a wedding with a good looking hooker. At first, everyone would be impressed. "Look at John's date." Then, as they talked to her and found out what her experiences were, they would not be so impressed.

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Chicago on October 5, 2008 at 12:20 AM

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Chicago on October 5, 2008 at 12:34 AM

Let's not forget this one:

TOLEDO, Ohio (CNN) -- Sen. John McCain on Thursday denied assertions published in The New York Times that he once had a close relationship with a female lobbyist whose clients had business before his Senate committee.

"I'm disappointed in The New York Times piece. It's not true," he told reporters in Toledo, Ohio, his wife, Cindy, standing by his side.

He added that he has never "done anything that would betray the public trust or make a decision" that would favor a particular group.

His wife added that her husband always puts family and country first, and is "a man of great character."

The New York Times issued a statement Thursday saying it stands by its reporting and that "the story speaks for itself." Watch McCain deny the paper's claims »

"We publish stories when they are ready," Executive Editor Bill Keller said in a statement, explaining that the story reached his desk Tuesday. " 'Ready' means the facts have been nailed down to our satisfaction, the subjects have all been given a full and fair chance to respond and the reporting has been written up with all the proper context and caveats.

"This story was no exception. It was a long time in the works."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/21/mccain/index.html

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Chicago on October 5, 2008 at 12:45 AM

Rep. Rick Renzi (AZ01) has been in the news for a land deal scandal since 2005, when he introduced a land swap bill in Congress that made his business partner and major campaign donor James Sandlin rich.

After the FBI investigation into Renzi was first reported in October 2006, McCain vouched for Renzi’s “integrity” in a robo-call to Arizona voters:

This is Senator John McCain. I’m calling to urge you to support my friend, Representative Rick Renzi for Congress. Rick has represented the first district of Arizona with tenacity, honesty and integrity beyond reproach.


McCain honored Renzi by putting him on the National Campaign Committee for his Presidential campaign and making him a co-chair of his Arizona Leadership Team.

In February 2008, Renzi was indicted on 35 counts of extortion, wire fraud, money laundering and other crimes, but McCain refused to remove him from his campaign committee, saying "it doesn't matter" because Renzi is presumed innocent (video).

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Chicago on October 5, 2008 at 12:50 AM

Scott Pelley of 60 Minutes asked John McCain if he regretted helping the deregulation of Wall Street back in 1999 and McCain said no because it helped grow our economy to where it is today. Yes, that’s his story and he’s sticking to it. It helped out economy so much that President Paulson is asking for 700 billion dollars with no strings attached to save McCain’s economy that is a step away from turning into another great Depression. Is he kidding me? We have another Enron type scandal on our hands in the financial markets only this scandal is on Super steroids.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/tag/scandals/

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Chicago on October 5, 2008 at 12:53 AM

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Chicago on October 5, 2008 at 01:07 AM

CNN) – The McCain campaign decided this week that the battleground state of Michigan may be out of reach for the Republican ticket this year — a move that's drawn criticism from one prominent dissenter: VP nominee Sarah Palin.

Considering all the interest in Palin, why don't they let her lead. They claim she is capable of leading the country. If that's true, she should be able to run a campaign.

Come on, Mr. McLame, put your campaign where your mouth is.

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Chicago on October 5, 2008 at 01:23 AM

The US Jobs lost video is so good. It is visually effective in realistically showing the scale of the increase of unemployment in contrast to the lies being spoken by Bush and McCain. The amount of unfactual misinformation they are spewing out to their audience is beginning to look as extreme as something out of a communications/film or history class on Pre Nazi Germany.

Give them enough rope and they will go farther and farther, an inch then a foot then a yard and on and on like Pinnochio's nose. What a show they are putting on now, just watch how they reveal themselves with their old modus operendi of below the belt persecution of the individual to distract from the enormously important issues about the whole nation, and we want inquisitors like this in the White House?

The whole world is watching and waiting to tear their lies and mean-hearted, hateful propaganda apart, not only on one mainstream media station but many moderate or neutral stations now. I can't wait to see how Olberman and Maddow among many others will respond to the latest outrageous smear speeches and ads attempting to whip their base into some hysterical reactionist frenzy against some old hippy when we had Woodstock and the March on Washington to protest the thousands of brothers sacrificed by the same elite for way too long in Viet Nam.

How long will this insanity go on? Let's stop the madness now and slam them back hard with a strong ad in rapid response, especially this latest stunt by Palin falling back on that already debunked myth of guilt by distant association on many channels where she has been spreading her lies because from the looks of it there were many people there who either have biased news coverage locally or are ignorant enough to cheer as if they believe her and this is what is so alarming. We had freedom of speech last I checked? Sheeeee! Pathetic attempt at scapegoating, really ugly.

Meanwhile back in Alaska, one legal official states that the refusal to honor officially standing subpoenas this way is an unprescedented first in our history of candidates. Palin, simply put, is not obeying the law, the real official law of the land of her state in this United States, and this is - IS - a real impeachable offence. Perhaps she is spewing out this extremist BS because she knows she has nothing to lose??? Hmmmm....this is going to be interesting.

I think good old middle of the road mainstream America has had quite enough. Let's get Obama and Biden so we can get to mending our country and putting our families back in their homes NOW!!!

Obama/Biden 2008

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MarieDNC on October 5, 2008 at 01:28 AM

Alaska goes Blue, now wouldn't that be the kicker. And when she returns home she is impeached. Now that would be deserving of someone who calls themself a christian and lies through her teeth, without remorse, and actually appears to enjoy it.

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newsjunkie on October 5, 2008 at 02:01 AM

They are showing clips on CNN of the debate. The more they show this stuff the more you see bidens passion and intelligence. Palin doesn't even make sense with her run on sentences and her que card, one liner attacks.

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newsjunkie on October 5, 2008 at 02:05 AM

The Boss is still the Boss Come on up for the Risen"

Bruce Springsteen called the Bush presidency "a disaster" and said many Americans have "justifiably lost faith" in the American dream.

The legendary rocker interrupted a seven-song acoustic set at a voter-registration rally in Philadelphia on Saturday to praise Democrat Barack Obama and bemoan the crises facing the next president.

Includes video of the massive crowd in Philly and Springsteen's appeal to the nation.

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dorsano on October 5, 2008 at 02:10 AM

Biden cancels events as mother-in-law battles illness

Joe Biden is a great man and a great leader for this nation.

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Chicago on October 5, 2008 at 02:10 AM

The Boss is still the Boss Come on up for the Risen"

182dorsano on October 5, 2008 at 02:10 AM

Bruce got it right as usual. The Bush presidency IS a disaster.

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Chicago on October 5, 2008 at 02:13 AM

Oh, how the young get all a-twitter and act so.

Sorry, dors and Chicago, "The 'Right' Brothers" sum it all up.

Bush Was Right

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on October 5, 2008 at 02:28 AM

Palin/McCain already debunked:

CNN writes:
Palin cited an article in Saturday's New York Times about Obama's relationship with Ayers, now 63. But that article concluded that "the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called "somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8".

Several other publications, including the Washington Post, Time magazine, the Chicago Sun-Times, The New Yorker and The New Republic, have debunked the idea that Obama and Ayers had a close relationship.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/04/palin.obama/index.html

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MarieDNC on October 5, 2008 at 02:29 AM

Posted by dorsano on October 5, 2008 at 02:10 AM

You have to realize that the big crowd was because he had semi-popular local bands performing, and there were vendors selling Bratwurst.

Just like what happened with Obama in Portland and Berlin.

Those local bar bands really pack them in.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on October 5, 2008 at 02:32 AM

CBS reports 50,000 at the Philly voter registration drive and includes additional video and comentary.

Pennsylvania's voter registration deadline is Monday. The weather today on the Franklin Parkway was great, the music free, and the turnout tremendous.

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dorsano on October 5, 2008 at 02:32 AM

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on October 5, 2008 at 02:28 AM Oh, how the young get all a-twitter and act so. ... "The 'Right' Brothers" sum it all up. Bush Was Right

You have no appreciation of satire, DPD.

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dorsano on October 5, 2008 at 02:39 AM

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on October 5, 2008 at 02:32 AM You have to realize that the big crowd was because he had semi-popular local bands performing, and there were vendors selling Bratwurst.

Just like what happened with Obama in Portland and Berlin.

:)

OK, Mr. DooPeeDee. What your describing though is the "Sheboygan Bratwurst effect" - sort of like the Bradley affect in reverse - but there was no Sheboygan Bratwurst there - just fake stuff.

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dorsano on October 5, 2008 at 02:46 AM

Photos surface of Obama's radical past

In the photo above, Barack Obama is seen, brandishing a weapon, at the forefront of a violent terrorist raid being conducted by the Weathermen in the late 1960's. In fact, it was during this raid that the young Obama first befriended Bill Ayers.

Bill and Barack had everything in common: Bill was 23, the son of the CEO of Commonwealth Edison, and a recent U. Michigan grad; Barack was 6 years old and being raised in Hawaii by a single mom. Both were horrified by the atrocities of the Vietnam War and decided that violence could only be fought with violence.

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dorsano on October 5, 2008 at 02:58 AM

The Pugs have been at it since Indiana opened their "Early Voting" centers. They are challenging ONLY African-American sites ONLY in Northwest Indiana. (Gary, Hammond, East Chicago, etc.).

Voter Suppression Battle Brewing In Northwest Indiana

And...

"The implication here is that citizens in Gary, Hammond and East Chicago -- heavily Democratic areas -- have some right citizens in Hamilton County, for instance -- a heavily Republican area -- do not," Brooks said.

But Democratic lawyer Fred Work characterized the dispute as a federal voting rights issue for residents of Lake County's poorer northern end who may have trouble getting to Crown Point, the only place in the county where early in-person voting now is allowed.

Early vote sites await court OK

So basically, if these old blind widows of former steel workers can't drive from Gary to Crown Point (and just are "those types" doing here? It had better be to clean out the stables!!) they can go to Hell. Alllll righty, then.

"Real" "American" of the Pugs to deny Blacks early voting.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on October 5, 2008 at 03:00 AM

Palin Sued for Private E-Mails About State Business

ANCHORAGE -- In a lawsuit filed in Alaska Superior Court, a Republican activist seeks to force Gov. Sarah Palin to produce copies of official correspondence she sent and received on private e-mail accounts.

But McLeod said she believes the Palin administration fostered a "culture of corruption" in Alaska where neither she nor her top aides were accountable to rules of transparency in government.

"The extent of the use of these private e-mail accounts demonstrates the extent of deception that the governor is operating under," McLeod said in an interview today. "The process is corrupt. The overall question now becomes, how did it become so broken that nobody could tell her, 'Don't do that.' That's why I'm going to the courts."

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dorsano on October 5, 2008 at 03:04 AM

Sorry dors. I just got back from my 4th Ocktoberfest in 3 weeks. Cincinnati KICKS ASS! Those Porkopolis denizens know how to have a Brat Fest!. Take that Milwaukee!

(I LOVE these local town shindigs. Whiting Indiana throws a GREAT "Pierogi-Fest every year too.)

And now, excuse me while I burp. Brrrrraaaaaaaaat!.

Ah, much better.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on October 5, 2008 at 03:15 AM

Palin tax returns show couple made $166,000 in 2007, but fell short on estimated payments

Sarah Palin is the breadwinner and husband Todd is, well — he takes a lot of deductions for his fishing and snowmachine racing careers, according to 2007 and 2006 federal tax returns released Friday.

Sarah Palin makes $125,000 a year as Alaska governor. Plus, since she took the job in December 2006, she hasn't paid taxes on the more than $17,000 she received in controversial per diem payments for working out of the family's lakeside home in Wasilla — some 575 miles from the capital of Juneau.

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dorsano on October 5, 2008 at 03:23 AM

Thanks to Dorsano for that link above to the coverage of "The Boss" in action - that was so good that I am adding the direct Youtube video link here for all to share with friends.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B61C2Pl23oo

Also, thanks to Dusty for providing us with that great link on the US Public Debt yesterday. This really shows how much we owe now to Japan and China as a matter of FACT! Good one Dusty! :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt

And if you didn't get that on Palin's taxes, thanks PamB for this one!

http://www.unbossed.com/index.php?itemid=2325

Also thanks to Doo Bee Doo, SandyH, Chicago, Johne, America1st and all the great Dem bloggers here at Kicking Ass who keep us informed, and welcome to MikenMontana! :D

Newsjunkie, I am also dreaming of a blue Alaska, thanks for that beautiful vision.

Go Dems Go!!!

OBAMA/BIDEN 2008 Yes WE Can! Fight The Smears

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MarieDNC on October 5, 2008 at 03:29 AM

She had an 85% approval rate on ONE question on ONE poll. "Do you approve of the extra $1.200 windfall oil revevue that you will get>" Yup. They ate 9or drank0 that up.

Her rating is about in the high to middle 60's in her own state; however,she ain't-a-runnin' there, donchaknow?


Also, contrary to McCain's statement that Palin is "overwhelmingly popular" with Americans, in a new survey Pew finds that 51% of Americans now believe that Palin is unqualified, up from 37% after her announcement.

So, Palin be failin', donchaknow?

By crackey!

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on October 5, 2008 at 03:29 AM

Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on October 5, 2008 at 03:15 AM Cincinnati KICKS ASS! Those Porkopolis denizens know how to have a Brat Fest!. Take that Milwaukee!

Pfffhhhttt ...

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dorsano on October 5, 2008 at 03:32 AM

Good night, DPD. Next year's the year.

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dorsano on October 5, 2008 at 03:40 AM

Per diem rates are established by the federal government and are taxable above the rate and the employee must file an expense report with the employer within a reasonable period of time (60 days).

If any of these requirements are not met, the payment is taxable to the employee.

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dorsano on October 5, 2008 at 03:46 AM

Yes, and if Stevie was split in half he would be 2 things without a brain to share.

What is your point, (and not the one on your head.)?

IF Alaska was split into thirds would your "argument" still be valid? (Not that it was from the get go.)

How about in fifths? Yes, you will "take the fifth" and complain that you didn't have enough ice so you had to chug it.

Grow up.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on October 5, 2008 at 03:47 AM

I was referring to the Cubs, Sally.

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dorsano on October 5, 2008 at 03:49 AM

Posted by Sally-* on October 5, 2008 at 03:57 AM When? Where?

In my post that you quoted

Anyway there will not be a Cubs/White Sox series this year.

I know - it will be next year instead.

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dorsano on October 5, 2008 at 04:03 AM

Yup, dorsano.

20 years after he dies, Steve Goodman still sums it up.

A Dying Cubs Fan's Last Request

Or Eddie Vedder.

When Ernie Banks said "Let's Play 2", did he mean 200 years?

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on October 5, 2008 at 04:13 AM

Posted by Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on October 5, 2008 at 04:13 AM When Ernie Banks said "Let's Play 2", did he mean 200 years?

Some day we'll go all the way.

Night, MarieDNC, expats, DPD.

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dorsano on October 5, 2008 at 04:27 AM

Yes. listen to Stevie. the Jews LOVE Palin.

http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=sarah+palin+jew+problem&btnG=Google+Search

If Stevie says it, 926,000 people MUST be wrong. So he says. So it must be.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on October 5, 2008 at 04:50 AM

Gee stupid Stevie can't even fact check his own "fact checked" "news" stories.


Hamas wins in West Bank elections
Hamas supporters in Ramallah
Hamas supporters celebrating council election victories
Palestinian militant group Hamas has won a sweeping victory in municipal elections in the West Bank.

Oyh, too "British" for you>

Hamas Sweeps Palestinian Elections, Complicating Peace Efforts in Mideast

Or howza 'bout doin' yur own work, you talking point machine?

Google Search

But you "think" that "wizbang" is a reputable "news" "source".

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on October 5, 2008 at 05:09 AM

I don't give a shit what any town "has". I lke the small town / small city festivals. It's the people taking pride in themselves and their neighborhoods. It's called "Pride of Place" in both socio-economic and psychological lexicons. Architects also use that term, but it is expanded to a wider definition for that particular application.

Who gives a crap about a run down former factory town other than the people who live there? The factories are all gone.

THE PEOPLE WHO LVE THERE! That's who.

But they did build a new water tower about 5 or 10 years ago. You can see it from the expressway on the way into the Loop.

BTW their annual fest is called "Houby Fest" and it celebrates some weird mushroom thing. Big parade, lotsa tents, good time great fun.

Maybe you should make an attempt to stop being such a sociopath and make friends with total strangers. You know, lose at some stupid carnival game, give some family a stuffed dog that you won by shooting hoops on a rigged game, turning over your unused food and drink tickets to a young family who may be on a tight budget but are trying to show their kids a fun time??

You may have heard the term. It's called being "neighborly". Although I don't live anywhere near that town I have been to their little fest. IT'S BIG! Nor do I live anywhere near Whiting Indiana, the home of one of my favorites, "THE PIEROGI FEST" or Cincinnati, for that matter, and they have a GREAT Ocktoberfest.

All I know is that when I meet people, they are happy when I approach and sad when I leave. With your type, it's just the opposite. (Although you always leave them laughing.)

Anti-Social personalities can only make themselves feel they have any shred of worth by trying to cut other people or cultures down.

You have such a sad existence. You are the guy who can't scale the minimum rung on the social ladder, so you trash the ladder and all who are above you.

Pathetic.

It's sap season. I hope Maple Grove isn't drained.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on October 5, 2008 at 05:38 AM

Yes, and Stevie doesn't get the dual use of the word. He's SUCH a "wit" (plus he adds an extra 'T')

{At the front, you satire deficient free moron.}

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on October 5, 2008 at 05:51 AM

Uh huh. Maple Grove is where the sap do stir. Doncha know?

Haven't you heard that old song? I transfered it from a 78 to a cassette some time in the 70's. Lots of clarinet, if I remember correctly. It wasn't Woody Hermann or Benny Goodman or Artie Shaw (WAY too rockin' for Artie Shaw), but it was one of the lower level "upper tier" licorice stick guys.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on October 5, 2008 at 06:30 AM

good morning, everyone. as for me, I'm still in my jammies. but then, I think life should be lived in them. (hef was on to something when he started that trend)


What voters wear: A battle over dress codes

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Esmeralda on October 5, 2008 at 07:25 AM

Then in 2 years the Republicans would nominate truly conservative candidates who would be elected and retake the Congress.

209Sally-* on October 5, 2008 at 03:47 AM

You know nothing of politics or how the wind blows in any other aspect of life. Blue dogs will be elected over conservative repugs.

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Esmeralda on October 5, 2008 at 07:37 AM

A-to-Z voters guide too much of a good thing?

Proposition R, for example, is to rename the Oceanside Water Treatment Plant the George W. Bush Sewage Plant. This is one of those ideas that sounds hilarious in the wee hours of the evening but comes across as juvenile and pointless in the clear light of day. Removing or painting over the inevitable graffiti is likely to turn into a tiresome and expensive chore. What are you going to say in 2025 when Bush is long gone and rarely mentioned? It seemed funny at the time?

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Esmeralda on October 5, 2008 at 07:50 AM

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/TECH/10/04/chertoff.cyber.security/index.html?eref=edition_technology


Homeland Security seeks cyber counterattack system

First, there was "Einstein," the federal government's effort to protect itself from cyber attacks by limiting the number of portals to government computer systems and searching for signs of cyber tampering.

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Esmeralda on October 5, 2008 at 07:58 AM

http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=343&sid=1491013

Major Supreme Court cases for the new term

Highlights of some high-profile cases that the Supreme Court will take up in its term that begins Monday:

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Esmeralda on October 5, 2008 at 08:04 AM

Enjoy your slacker Sunday, everyone.


Proverbs 29:25
Fear of man will prove to be a snare, but whoever trusts in the Lord is kept safe.

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Esmeralda on October 5, 2008 at 08:39 AM

Ya, I bet. Its called the puppy aproach. You come on wagging your tail, then you pee all over the place and they run you off.

236The_Evil_Dr*Burd on October 5, 2008 at 05:45

AM


Hmmmmmm, isn't "puppy approach' something to do with your wife's boobs in Germany??? thought you Germans called them puppies for some reason! Now just because your wife is a dog, no reason to call them baby doggies! :)

How are things in Neutrabling these days? Any Octoberfests going on there? Maybe you should be there drinking, instead of sitting here drinking !

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PamB on October 5, 2008 at 08:46 AM

good morning. i see palin is in full bulldog ( or is it bullshit? ) mode. i bet they want to see if she can finish the election with lower favorability than the presidummie himself....and if so she will become the leader of the repelican party in exile as they wait out the next few decades on saint helena...

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gregg on October 5, 2008 at 08:46 AM

Oh, and to jump into the conversation on Jews for Obama, here is that video again from my Jewish friend, Israelis for Obama. Seems the entire world is holding it's breath praying Obama wins! Obviously even Israel understands that McCain will just make them more unsafe with his Arrogant Hawkish approach, than Obama.


http://www.jews4change.com/Israelis4Obama.php

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PamB on October 5, 2008 at 08:50 AM

You GO, Obama. Now when do you think McCain will pull up camp here? He is on those limited dollars now, and can only run Negative ads, which people are sick to death of !

In Florida's Economic Pain, Obama Gains Ground
Saturday 04 October 2008

»
by: Damien Cave, The New York Times

http://www.truthout.org/100408Z

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PamB on October 5, 2008 at 08:52 AM

Morning gregg and Dems.

gregg, living here in the NOrtheast, where maple sugaring is the largest in the country, don't you get a kick out of MN troll, stating he taps 50 trees each Spring for Maple syrup?

Now as we know, it takes 40 gallons of sap to make one gallon of syrup. And you get about a quart per season out of each tree. so he must get just about enough for one breakfast for all that work! :)

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PamB on October 5, 2008 at 09:09 AM

This must be why the two MN trolls are getting so Shrill these days! This must kill them!


Minnesota Poll: Obama leaps ahead of McCain
The Democrat's lead in the state is tied to the economy, the debate and new party strength.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/30470234.html?kn


Thanks for your work, Dorsano!

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PamB on October 5, 2008 at 09:11 AM

Lovely does not mean SMART ! Nor acceptable for the 2nd top position in the USA!

U.S. Fiscal Crisis Seems to Have Altered Political Map
McCain's Challenge Is Underscored by Pullout From Mich.



The faltering economy has left Sen. John McCain on the political defensive, altering the landscape in many of the most important battleground states and providing a series of avenues for Sen. Barack Obama to claim the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House in November, according to political strategists in both parties.

Over the past two weeks, Obama has opened up leads both nationally and in the states likely to decide the outcome of the presidential election. A combination of factors -- the tumult in the financial and credit markets, the performance of the two candidates in responding to it, and increased doubts about Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin -- have contributed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/04/AR2008100402135.html?hpid=topnews

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PamB on October 5, 2008 at 09:14 AM

McCain the Gambler, gambled with an Empty Hand! And his bluff is being called, and he is merely trying to hold them lousy cards till the last minute before giving them up!

Why not call and concede right now, Johnny? And you can then go to the Rest Home with the rest of the senile old men! :)


Yesterday there was a town that had Townwide yard sale, and probably half this town participated either at the school with a spot, or at their homes. There was a map available which showed you where the Home ones were.
I went with my daughter, looking for antiques and furniture for her new house.

At one of the houses, the 2 people running it were having a conversation with 2 other people. They were discussing McCain and Palin, and the debate. They were saying how the Wink-o-meter showed how many winks Palin gave, and that Bill Maher or somebody had a spoof on that on his show. They were talking about how anybody could vote for a senile old man. I was LMAO, and told them how much they made me smile ! They said how appalled they have been, at the selection of Palin, and the fact that this inexperienced backwoods person could someday step into the Presidency! It will be over our Dead Bodies, believe me! I will never allow this bimbo to lead my country!

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PamB on October 5, 2008 at 09:26 AM

Wake up Michigan Republicans! Game over in your state! what was it about a double digit lead by Obama that you missed???

Michigan Republicans oppose McCain pullout


In the aftermath of John McCain's decision to pull out of Michigan, Republicans in the state are expressing shock and bewilderment at his move — and aren't willing to cede the state's 17 electoral votes just yet.

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“We’re blindsided, along with everybody else in Michigan,” said Oakland County Executive L. Brooks Patterson. “I feel like I woke up this morning, and there was a note on my pillow.”

“When the general leaves the battlefield when the fight’s still going on, it creates a lot of chaos,” he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081004/pl_politico/14267;_ylt=Agv71tQK05jRxUL3VJNyVRJsnwcF

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PamB on October 5, 2008 at 09:29 AM


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