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Call in the Dogs, Wet the Fire, this Hunt is Over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If Barrack was not black he would win by 25 points, but since he is he will win, 56 percent to 44 percent.
270NorthHartford* on October 11, 2008 at 06:04 PMSarah palin is a pissant.
264Johne on October 11, 2008 at 05:55 PM
Johnny, Johnny , you should not be downgrading pis-ants like that. HEE HEE HEE
Its really a farce, that the trolls, never have anything to say positive, about there candidates.
All the Republican party, does is smear, fear, and ridicule.
Is this all they got?
Good afternoon, all.
Back from canvassing all day. Boy, the Republicans are all whacked out.
In the morning I went with other Obama volunteers back to some middle class neighborhoods where we needed to pick up people who had not been home when we called before. The Republicans now say, "I don't want to talk about IT." (IT as in THE OTHER ONE.)
Independents are beginning to commit. Many said the debates showed them what they needed to know. Others said McCain had one more chance next week but they are prepared to "hold their nose and do what is necessary." One issue voters were looking for ways to find common ground.
In the afternoon, I joined with some MoveOn and DFA groups to canvass. There were so many people we had to double and triple up. They will tell voters exactly what they think whether they want to hear it or not. What a riot. We went to a hard core, upper middle class stronghold.
These Republicans are delightful. Well mannered and curious even if they will not vote for Obama. They can't stand McCain...wanted The Flipper and can't believe what they have ended up with. For the second time in a month, I was offered a drink at one house. We even found a few votes.
We were bombarded with questions about Obama and his proposed programs by people who now truly believe he will be the next president. We ran out of lit and position papers. (One guy ran off some more copies for us.) They say this election is all over and they're glad. They think McCain is as McNuts as we do.
It was a great day. I've always enjoyed meeting middle class and working people of all political persuasions when I canvass. They share so many wonderful family stories.
But talking to fiscal conservatives, the highly educated, and small business people/developers who understand the issues behind the current economic meltdown was a real treat.
Unless Spunky starts WW III and declares martial law there is nothing that will change the outcome now. Obama has proven himself to enough voters. The others respect him even if they will not vote for him.
Palin was found guilty, in her state of Alaska, of abusiveness of power, does this sound familiar to anyone?. 8 Republicians, and 4 Democrats.
How will she get out of this one?
Abusiveness, of power, and smear, and fear, and ridicule is all these Repos have left. Futher more thats all they had to start with.
It is so disappointing just knowing that no matter how many years pass by, no matter how many lives are lost, no matter how many civil rights movements occur, Our country remains torn apart by racism. What's really amazing though is how quickly so many Americans are willing to either dismiss or simply ignore the fact that Barrack Obama was born to a white woman and subsequently raised by his white grandparents. Sadly, until we, as a nation, can come together regardless of skin tone, our country may never get the opportunity to prosper at its full potential.
Its really a farce, that the trolls, never have anything to say positive, about there candidates.
chassie on October 11, 2008 at 06:28 PM
Most of those I talked to today said that their own Party really screwed up. Greenspan allowed everything to get out of hand. Bush didn't have enough intellectual curiosity to ask questions. And Cheney over reached.
Depending on who you talked to Romney/Huckabee or Romney/Kay Bailey Hutchison would have energized their entire Base. Stooopid GOP strategists and pundits talked them into the weakest ticket in history.
McCain doesn't appeal to Democrats or Independents...or even most Republicans.
Abusiveness, of power, and smear, and fear, and ridicule is all these Repos have left. Futher more thats all they had to start with.
chassie
It will be so much fun to come on this blog on Wednesday November 5th and read the sad, sad comments from you horrible shocked lefties when the citizens of America say Nobama!!!!!
Its really a farce, that the trolls, never have anything to say positive, about there candidates.
chassie
This is an amazing statement coming from one of the slimiest scummy posters on here. All you do, day in and day out, is sling shit at Senator McCain and Governess Palin, saying some of the filthiest things imaginable.
You should be slapped across the face with a rotted carp.
It will be so much fun to come on this blog on Wednesday November 5th and read the sad, sad comments from you horrible shocked lefties when the citizens of America say Nobama!!!!!
9TheGreatGazoo on October 11, 2008 at 06:49 PM
That will never happen dream, on dreamer.
Call in the dogs, wet the fire, this hunt is over!
Obama 54 percent to 46 percent, if he was not black it would be 58 percent to 42 percent.
Eat your heart out.
Futher more Sally you don't like McNuts yourselve.
After hearing two, not one, but two people speaking for the Republican Party on CNN and still not rebuking the hateful comments expressed by Sarah Palin and John Mccain it's time to bring out the information about the person who really pals around with extremists who would separate a whole state from the United States. And that person is Sarah Palin. Up until the year 2002, her husband Todd, belonged to a separatist organization in Alaska that wanted the state to be it's own nation. Its' leader rip apart the United States and said that he would not even want to be buried under its' flag. Sarah Palin even spoke at this organization and told its leader to keep up the good work. It's time to let this information out so that we can really see who is against the United States and is not a patriot. Why is this not being told? It's time to demand that the true facts about this Vice Presidential candidate be exposed. And what else don't we know? What about John McCain's involvement with the Iran Contras and the people in that organization. The public has a right to know both sides.
Futher more Sally you don't like McNuts yourselve.
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chassie
HUH?
angelarn on October 11, 2008 at 06:38 PM
The country is coming together. Most Republicans were so repulsed by what they saw coming out of those Palin rallies that they gave McCain an ultimatum.
Always a melting pot, this country is fast growing more tan than white. The Census Bureau has stated that whites will be minority by 2042...maybe earlier. It's easy to see a difference in attitudes by generations.
There will always be those among us who suffer so severely with inferiority complexes that they will be easily manipulated, but the GOP better find other ways besides using race or skin color.
TheGreatGazoo on October 11, 2008 at 06:59 PM
Need a new battery in the old hearing aid?
Don't miss this video of two lovely young ladies from Alaska telling it like it is about Sarah Palin. They are intelligent, witty, and speak well for their state.
Two young Alaskan women speak out about Sarah Palin.
My favorite:
"Alaskans have very low standards for their politicians."
Its really a farce, that the trolls, never have anything to say positive, about there candidates.
chassie
This is an amazing statement coming from one of the slimiest scummy posters on here. All you do, day in and day out, is sling shit at Senator McCain and Governess Palin, saying some of the filthiest things imaginable.
You should be slapped across the face with a rotted carp.
10TheGreatGazoo on October 11, 2008 at 06:52 PM
Man have you got nerve they way you attack everyone on the blog.
I'm still waiting for you to tell us, what positive things that your man, is going to do for America, you can't do it cuz you don't have any.
Your so full of hate, that you can't even find a positive about your man, you are just hoping that he get elected, and dies in the first month in office, and Palin the abusiveness one, just like your hero's the Chimp, and Dick and he is Cheney. Abuses their power.
I'm still waiting for you to say something positive about McNuts, i have heard nothing from you in the last 8 months.
i have heard nothing from you in the last 8 months.
chassie
That's because I haven't been on this blog for 8 months, more like 2 months. You're kind of a dope. Like dusty2006. Maybe you are dusty on meds?
CALL IN THE DOGS, WET THE FIRE, THIS HUNT IS OVER.
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Unlike the Trolls. Good night all i got more important things to do.
Take this to heart Dems, after this Election, the Trolls, are going to say it was the Damn Economy, when we knew that all along.
How stupid can Repos be?
WHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA IDIOTS
Unlike the Trolls. Good night all i got more important things to do.
chassie
Considering the low quality of the frequent posters on here something more important would be taking out the garbage.
chassis you're a bitter, bitter commie.
Third on October 11, 2008 at 06:57 PM
If we need it, this is just one of the aces we have up our sleeve that we can use whenever we want. Think of the sensation it will bring. It's important to time the release of toxic material to when it can best be utilized to your purposes.
Palin and Cindy McCain both have a checkered past. Since Cindy went out on ledge and did the nasty this week interjected her credibility into the discussion, both of their pasts are not off limits any longer. We have lots to work with if necessary.
And why hasn't Cindy released the family tax returns and John his medical records (I believe CNN is doing a special on Presidential medical conditions this weekend that should open up that can of worms.)? What are the McCains hiding from the public when Obama and Biden families have released everything?
Hello all you fine Democrats.
I can't stay, but I just wanted to post this.
Now Sarah trooper-gate Palin is pretending that Obama is trying to hide his position on a womans right to choose. How stupid can Caribou Barbie be? How stupid can her handlers be?
Obama HAS A WEB SITE. Ya know?
http://www.barackobama.com/index.php
Look under "issues."
Duh. Republicans are so stupid.
BBL
Gov Palin = Gov Hunt
US News and World Report goes from one of the best governors to conviction and impeachment.
Controversy began to surround Hunt that summer after his use of state planes to fly to religious events in neighboring states was made public.
http://www.encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1509
If you are truly pro-life stop voting on that single issue. If the repugs can use it to get elected and re-elected, do you really believe they are going to throw that issue out the window?
Both parties have members who are pro-life and pro-choice.
When abortion stops being the wedge issue GW and KKKarl have made it, maybe we can work together i.e. the Abortion Reduction Bill
"Palin was found guilty, in her state of Alaska, of abusiveness of power, does this sound familiar to anyone?. 8 Republicians, and 4 Democrats.
How will she get out of this one?"
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chassie on October 11, 2008 at 06:33 PM
chassie, i rechecked and it's...
According to CNN, the panel sat 10 Republicans and 4 Democrats.
and how she'll get out? since she didn't violate a law, they'll change the subject ... today it's abortion, yesterday was ayers ... tomorrow?
stay tuned.
moose mom, sarah palin was booed in Philadelphia at a Flyers and Rangers game.
no matter how the extreme right spins this, it doesn't look good for the moose wearing lipstick in Pennsylvania.
How will Palin get out -
1. You treat the American public as ignorant and
incapable of reading or understanding the
report.
2. You only quote the part of the report that
says you have the power to fire.
DUH- Before you can abuse power it has to be established you have the power.
good evening, everyone.
racism and hatred run rapid in this country. no wonder the charter member trool loves this ticket so much.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20081011-1203-mccain-officialdropped.html
McCain drops Va. GOP county chairman over column
This is great. mcgeezer is insulted that Lewis compares him to Governor Wallace who spread hate during his presidential campaign in 1963. As a result, four black children were blown up in a church by the KKK. (probably KKKarl's father).
How dare mcgeezer deny what he is doing. mccain is truly and asshole and is truly unsuited to be president.
Rep. Lewis says McCain 'sowing seeds of hatred'
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Rep. John Lewis, a Georgia Democrat and veteran of the civil rights movement, says the negative tone of the Republican presidential campaign reminds him of the hateful atmosphere that segregationist Gov. George Wallace fostered in Alabama in the 1960s.
Republican candidate John McCain on Saturday called Lewis' remarks "shocking and beyond the pale."
The Obama campaign said the Illinois senator doesn't believe McCain or his policy criticism is at all comparable to Wallace and his segregationist policies.
In a statement issued Saturday, Lewis said McCain and running mate Sarah Palin were "sowing the seeds of hatred and division, and there is no need for this hostility in our political discourse." He noted that Wallace also ran for president.
"George Wallace never threw a bomb. He never fired a gun, but he created the climate and the conditions that encouraged vicious attacks against innocent Americans who were simply trying to exercise their constitutional rights," said Lewis, who is black. "Because of this atmosphere of hate, four little girls were killed on Sunday morning when a church was bombed in Birmingham, Alabama."
One of the seminal events of the civil rights movement was the bombing of Birmingham's 16th Street Baptist Church on Sept. 15, 1963. Four black girls died in the blast, which was linked to a Ku Klux Klan group.
Lewis' remarks follow widely reported examples of anger at McCain rallies that has been aimed at Obama, the first black man to be a major party's nominee for president. During some rallies featuring McCain and Palin, supporters have shouted "traitor," "terrorist," "treason," "liar" and even "off with his head."
The outbursts came amid a harshly personal line of attack against Obama by the GOP campaign. McCain and Palin have said Obama failed to tell the truth about his ties to 1960s radical William Ayers, had a radical agenda on abortion, and wasn't really known to voters. Last weekend, Palin signaled the uptick in the criticism when she charged that Obama was "palling around with terrorists," a reference to Ayers, and that he didn't see the U.S. as others did.
McCain drew boos at a town-hall meeting Friday in Minnesota when he defended Obama after a supporter said he feared what would happen if Obama were elected president. He also cut short a woman who said Obama was an Arab, and he called his rival "a decent, family man."
On Saturday, McCain called on Obama to repudiate Lewis' remarks. While dismissing the comparison to Wallace, Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton said Lewis was on target in other ways.
"John Lewis was right to condemn some of the hateful rhetoric that John McCain himself personally rebuked just last night, as well as the baseless and profoundly irresponsible charges from his own running mate that the Democratic nominee for president of the United States 'pals around with terrorists,'" Burton said in a statement.
In his remarks, Lewis also said: "As public figures with the power to influence and persuade, Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are playing with fire, and if they are not careful, that fire will consume us all. They are playing a very dangerous game that disregards the value of the political process and cheapens our entire democracy. We can do better. The American people deserve better."
McCain rejected any comparison to Wallace.
"I am saddened that John Lewis, a man I've always admired, would make such a brazen and baseless attack on my character and the character of the thousands of hardworking Americans who come to our events to cheer for the kind of reform that will put America on the right track," McCain said.
In August, while appearing at a forum on faith, McCain was asked to name three "wise people" he would listen to. He cited Lewis as well as Gen. David Petreaus, head of U.S. troops in Iraq, and former eBay CEO Meg Whitman, a top adviser to his campaign.
check out the second to last paragraph. mccain is saddened.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
A HISTORIC TICKET.... Now that Sarah Palin has been found to have abused her powers, violated state ethics, and lied about it, I did a little digging and found an interesting historical footnote.
The McCain/Palin ticket is the first in American history in which both candidates were found to have violated ethics standards before a national election.
McCain, of course, was admonished by Senate Ethics Committee "for exercising 'poor judgment' for intervening" with federal regulators on behalf of Charles Keating, as part of the infamous Keating Five scandal.
And now McCain's running mate has also been found to have violated state ethics laws and abused the powers of her office, as part of the "Troopergate" scandal.
The nation has had 102 major-party tickets covering 51 presidential elections over more than two centuries. And we've never had a ticket in which both candidates on the same ticket were responsible for ethics violations before a national election. McCain/Palin is the first.
It makes the whole "reform" pitch a little more difficult, doesn't it?
SandyH, sounds like you had a great day! Thanks so much for working so hard.
31Benji on October 11, 2008 at 08:19 PM
hiya benji. got link?
I'm posting this here because I saw a car driving down the road with it Friday afternoon. I hadn't realized until then how far flung that expression has become. I thought I'd finally decided on Obama, and then I saw this. And, really, it enrages me enough that I got out of my car at the light and talked to the driver who just doesn't understand. Can't you come up with a better title for her than that? Is this the kind of thing that is quietly condoned by this party now simply because she is a Republican? Why is this being tolerated? Why? Why?!!!
--Prince George's county, Maryland (deep in the blue)
Do you think that by making that slur ("Caribou Barbie") a common statement that you can limit it to mean 'only Republican women' or just 'one woman'?
A Barbie is a fashion doll made by Mattel. It has exaggerated dimensions, and it's main function is to provide a backdrop for clothes that are chosen to make a display. "Barbie" is slang now for a woman who has no other purpose than to be ornamental/sexual. But the deeper and uglier truth is that every time it is used, the double-bind on women's appearance vs. intelligence gets tighter.
It's catchy, but surely there are other catchy titles that aren't gender slurs?
Does Obama really *mean* that commercial where he says "I want my daughters to have the same chances as your sons"?
If so, why is that offensive title being bandied about for Palin? Take her appearance out of the argument, folks. It doesn't have a place here. Drop the Caribou Barbie and the even more offensive 'MILF'. The lipstick on a pig comment was bad enough.(1) She agreed to the Vice President job --go after her on her lack of skill not her appearance. Beauty/lack-of-Beauty doesn't have a place here.
Why are the feminists being silent about this offensive slur?
(1) Yes, I know that it was 'really about the Republican agenda,' but that he would go after a parody of the lipstick comment to make that point lacks sensitivity and defies logic that it wasn't meant to link to that pitbull-lipstick comment.
Hey Esmeralda,
Nice to hear from you.
I heard a nasty rumor about old Stevie Lloyd Thornburg from Hinckley, MN (a.k.a.) Sally and you. I heard he hasn't been very nice to you even though you and Fade were the only ones who would stick up for him back in the old blog days.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/washington/12scotus.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1
U.S. Supreme Court Is Asked to Fix Troubled West Virginia Justice System
"reform" pitch is DOA among independents. it'll still stick w/mcmoney-chattie cathie die hard supporters. they'll swallow anything to keep a "darkie" from being elected. They'll do anything to keep a "liberal" from being elected. they'll do anything. and mcstir and chattie cathie did a great job in rebuilding the hate obama was trying to dispel, to bring this country back together. "off w/his head" ... "kill him" ... "SHOOT HIM"
thanks mccain and palin, mission accomplished
38Esmeralda on October 11, 2008 at 08:48 PM
It's currently on huffpo with a video.
You can clearly see the fans in background booing and giving Moose Lips "Two Thumbs Down".
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/11/hockey-mom-palin-greeted_n_133911.html
benji, oh, steve's mad at me because I say he is mentally ill. they do make medications for his disorder, but he enjoys being miserable and hateful.
"They'll do anything to keep"
clarification... i was in no way referring to mccain nor palin. only to those among their crowd of folks that need only a little prompting to express their hate and prejudices. the same if a firearm was provided would do exactly that in a rage.
This was the last post of the last thread, I wanted it to be seen, I hope Mr. WolfWalker doesn't mind that I reposted it on his behalf.
Thank you for your service sir, things will be better with obama. __________________________________________________
Okay folks, I am a 60 year old war disabled homeless Vet, got to use a friends PC for this. Man at my age got to winter were its warm if ya all know what I mean. I have sat back and just watched all of this for years.. Knew that in time the Republicans would trash things big time. Only time I was ever out of a job was when a damn Republican had the White house. (Oops not a political correct statement) I was never out of work when the Democarts held power, when the Republicans took power I knew I could always look to hard times. Bottom line is Republican Govt does not work in large population basis. Only Social Democratic systems do. Where did we lose the fact that that we are all one family, one tribe one lodge. When did we lose the ability to read?? the Constituition is in pretty plain english. For example all those who oppose gay Marriage. "All citizens enjoy equal protection under the law"
We the people have seen 8 years of Empirical Republican Rule and where has it got us? If your a Republican and cant wake up and smell the the coffee. then learn to roll with the punches because when your in the soup line with me, you aint got nothinn special commin.!!!!!
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WolfWalker on October 11, 2008 at 08:27 PM
cnn doing a story about battle ground states. ohio first up, they are doing a story out of Ashland, OH
evening Dems. Long day today. Wish I could say I was phone banking and going door to door, but was moving a daughter.
I see the trolls are all atwitter over their 'lovely and untalented Palin'! LMAO!
The Reformer. The gal who was going to go to DC and Clean it up. the gal who walked on water, WAS JUST ANOTHER POS REPUBLICAN POLITICIAN, ABUSING POWER, CORRUPT, CRIMINAL! What a wonderful example of Family values! Firing a guy who would not fire a family member!! Well, I guess that hit HER in the face like a Carp! hahahahahahahahaha
"That's because I haven't been on this blog for 8 months, more like 2 months. You're kind of a dope. Like dusty2006. Maybe you are dusty on meds?
19TheGreatGazoo on October 11, 2008 at 07:12 PM"
ahhh, give it up MN Thomass! Afraid to use Harpo anymore? I don't blame you buddy, I don't blame you one single bit!!!!! How's that old Qwest Communications IP these days?
You are pathetic you white trash ! HONK HONK HONK!!! bwhahahahahahahahaha
goodnite Dems. Have to call it a night.
Blog ya tomorrow.
44Esmeralda on October 11, 2008 at 09:00 PM
Well, you enjoy being optimistic and bubbly.
I guess that evens things out and that's good enough for me.
I swear if Obama doesn't come out with an ad soon to debunk this crap I'm going to lose it. For a week now I have gotten e-mails, heard J. McShame say it, hear it on the radio and on the MSM. McCains talking heads keep repeating it over and over and their is no democratic response, WHAT!
Apparently the worlds financial meltdown rests solely on the shoulders of barack obama and the fall of freddie and fannie caused all of the problems in the world.
This has to be nipped and quick. Please, blog at baracks site, I did, and let him know the MSM isn't calling the talking heads on this lie and he needs to get an ad out quick on it.
McCain says he doesn't need a politician from chicago telling him to tell the truth, Oh Really, then right after McShame spews this LIE. Call him on it barack and NOW! This is a swiftboating and I don't think obama gets how big this is.
One of the key items I see here is this
"When seeking to occupy the Oval Office, either as top dog or second-in-command, a woman has to choose between running as the candidate with the proper competence -- and thus, being manly -- or as the candidate who is properly feminine -- and thus, being unqualified."
The article went on to say that Clinton ran as the competent candidate instead of the feminine one. The issue, as I see it, concerning Palin, is that she is trying for neither of these two sides when she should go for both or not worry about the standard.
I do not condone the whole Caribu Barbie thing, It's a deliberate insult. I don't think you will ever hear Obama or Biden call her anything of the sort. It is far kinder than many of the things I heard from the other side about Clinton when she was running and vastly less offensive than the majority of the things I hear about Obama. The campaign can no more stop it's supporters from calling her that than McCain's campaign can stop his supporters from calling Obama a muslim or saying he's an Arab, or calling him a terrorist. Name calling by the "base" happens in every election weather it be against gender, ethnicity, age, or sexual preference there are always the few who taint things for the many. Please don't let your view of a few supporters (on either side) make your decision about something this important.
50newsjunkie on October 11, 2008 at 09:11 PM
Nobody, except the extreme right, believes that anyone but the bush administration and the republican party is responsible for the financial meltdown any more than anyone, except the extreme right, believes that Obama is a Muslim.
If Obama spent money and ad time on every mccain, palin, bush, republican and extreme right lie that was repeated over and over again, there wouldn't be any money or advertisement time left to address the real issues that concern America.
The bush, mccain, palin and republican are up to their ears in lies and only the gullible extreme right are buying it.
The trolls on this blog are perfect examples of how ideological loyalty trumps common sense for the gullible and weak.
I grew up in a town outside of Ashland, Ohio --Mansfield. Most of the towns around Mansfield were really hurt by the closing of the manufacturing base back in 1987 when the state raised corporate income tax by 90% of what they had been charging. We were all in the news then too --because about 35% of us were out of jobs. I was in Maryland that year in a job, and when I called home, my Dad told me to just stay in Maryland because there wasn't anything to come home to.
--Prince George's county, Maryland
39MIDDLEOFTHEROAD ON OCTOBER 11, 2008 AT 08:49 PM
Just for the record my last post was in response to this, blog is running kinda slow for me
Where did we lose the fact that that we are all one family, one tribe one lodge.
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WolfWalker on October 11, 2008 at 08:27 PM
I wish would would live like we were intended, too.
Well, well, well if it isn't Stevie Lloyd Thornburg from Hinkley, MN.
(a.k.a.)
Sally
Marge
Lisa
Sarah
Mariah
Kathleen
Julia
etc., etc., etc.
Boy do you love impersonating females on this blog.
I wonder why?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/12/uselections2008-barackobama
Election pendulum swings back to Obama in Ohio's dying downtowns
The travails of Sarah Palin may be making all the headlines in the race for the White House this weekend. But a scandal in Alaska, however embarrassing for the McCain/Palin campaign, is likely to be of only passing interest in Canton, Ohio. Here it has always been about the economy.
Hey Stevie Lloyd Thornburg from Hinkley, MN.
(a.k.a) Sally
How's that lawsuit of yours going?
heh heh heh
Well I guess it's time for me to get some sleep.
Night, night.
54MiddleoftheRoad on October 11, 2008 at 09:19 PM
hiya, former Richland county.
jobs are few and far between, that's why I drive to the Capitol each work day, 92 miles one way.
For those of you who are newcomers here,
57Sally-* on October 11, 2008 at 09:20 PM
According to you, there are only the regular 8, which you, buttwipe dan and jerk neocon are 3, so that leaves 5.
http://pjcockrell.wordpress.com/2007/11/22/amazing-grace-just-the-black-notes/
just the black notes
good evening esmeralda. getting really cool here at night but the leaf change is peaking and is really vibrant this year.
eating a lot of apples and pie. good times.
i wonder if the construction of palin's house will become an issue...just wondering if the folks who built the hockey rink for no one helped old todd out at all...
from Live Like A Champion Devotional:
Make the choice to stay alive your whole life by keeping your dreams, purpose and goals in front of you. Remember, you have a specific destiny to fulfill created by Almighty God. You didn’t just accidentally show up on planet earth. God knew you before you were formed in your mother’s womb, and He has an assignment for you. You were created to make a difference—to impact our society—to make this world a better place.
On the inside of you right now, there are dreams and desires put there by the Creator of the universe. Don’t let the pressures of life push those dreams down. Stir up those dreams. Stir up those gifts. Shake off every disappointment and press forward. This is a new day. Get a new vision. Make up your mind that no matter what comes your way, you’re going to keep pressing forward. You’re going to keep growing. You’re going to keep learning. You’re going to stay active. If you will stay passionate about life, knowing what your purpose is and being your best every day, you will find that you are living a way that generates such enthusiasm, that you are excited about life!
silly sally.
you have no faith! you have limited God Almighty!
hahaha
You can't read either! you twist everything to suit your small corrupt mind.
hi gregg. it has been beautiful fall weather here; warm sunny days, cool nights for perfect sleeping.
one to end the day with:
He sat down opposite the treasury, and watched the crowd putting money into the treasury. Many rich people put in large sums. A poor widow came and put in two small copper coins, which are worth a penny. Then he called his disciples and said to them, "Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put in more than all those who are contributing to the treasury. For all of them have contributed out of their abundance; but she out of her poverty has put in everything she had, all she had to live on."
- Mark 12:41-44
Enjoy the evening, everyone.
For Mike_n_Montana in answer to our previous posts,
You are correct that Palin should go for both, but I do believe that she is going for the strong feminine lead --softened quite a bit with a down-home image. The Hillary lesson hovers above every female politician. Or any female executive, for that matter. 'Be seen as too aggressive and there's a price.'
Would Hillary have gone as far in the race if she hadn't had been linked to Bill? I don't know, but I think she would have gone far. Her link to Bill polarized everything --including even my view of her.
Let me be up front with saying that I'm not a Republican troll. I WANT THE MESSAGE HEARD THAT THE GENDER SLUR 'CARIBOU BARBIE' ISN'T ACCEPTABLE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. (to the supporters that drop by and somehow think that the slur is ok because she's a Republican) She's not an airhead as I noted that she did get Biden to admit that the Democratic party was not supporting gay marriage in the debate, though the rest of her performance lacked bite. But please be my guest to go after her about her qualifications or lack thereof. I'm not voting for Palin or Biden.
My voting record: did not vote in 1984, Bush Senior 1988, Clinton 1992, did not vote in 1996 by choice, Nader 2000 (oh, no, no way Gore. I'd have stayed home again.), Kerry 2004. I'm not a Republican. But I'm not really a Democrat either. Obama is the freshest thing that I've seen, and even my husband who is a more-Republican middle of the road is listening and we're debating.
Obama has been very cognizant of the sensitivity of gender slurs since the 'lipstick on a pig' comment. (or perhaps I am just not paying enough attention) I do want you to know that the day after he made that comment I sent money to the McCain campaign. That doesn't seal my vote to them in any way, but the comment angered me that much.
And as for the Obama is muslim/Arab/terrorist nonsense, I actually picked up the phone and had that conversation with my aunt back in Mansfield, OH when she forwarded me one of those stupid emails last month. Obama is an American. Period. I told her to start listening/looking to the real issues and stop reading inflammatory trash. Then followed a spirited discussion about the election issues.
I do want to say hello to everyone who actually has common sense out there. I am a 36yr old middle class white man. I work harder than most, make more than most, pay more than most in taxes, and probably recognize more than most what is happening in this country. I took off for the summer to spend real time with family. At night I watch the news. I too was raised for a good portion of my childhood by my grandparents. My grandfather was always straight democrat. He was not even close to being rich. He worked for everything. I do not believe he would vote for Obama because of his race. That is too bad. There are so many other reasons not to that I don't have to feel any white guilt for not supporting him. As far as that goes; maybe, John Mc Cain does not deserve my vote either. But, let's talk about that word "deserve". My son deserves to grow up in a country where he will not suffer for his station in life. It will be good either way. Some people may believe that is because he is white and from a middle class family. Negative, it is because he is being instilled with the belief that he is responsible for himself. I do not need government handouts, I do not need civil rights, I only require the government on all sides to not lie to me. How can anyone look themselves in the mirror for letting us"yes, us"get into the current economic crisis. For the past 10 years I have lived on cash. I finance vehicles and put down what my bank requires of everyone for a down payment. Everything else is paid for by the bank of mike. Instead of pointing fingers, find out the real problems and fix them. How could anyone expect to get ourselves out of this by borrowing more money. Lowering taxes will not do anything but make it worse. Less money coming in, less money going out. Does anyone not understand that? Where I come from your word is everything. How many friends does Obama have to throw under the bus to win this election? Apparently, the ones who do not give him much money. Speculation I know. My father is an Obama supporter, even though it is purely because of his opposition to the Iraq war. More common sense. We cannot accept defeat even if we had flimsy reasons for the invasion. If. Does anyone question Kennedy's motives for Vietnam? I am sorry I was not alive in that era. I come from the rebuilding of our national pride era. Who remembers that? How is universal healthcare a right? That is like homeownership being a right. I do not own my home because I am saving my money to build my house with my dime. My wife and I had to learn these lessons when we were in our twenty's. She has not had a paying job since we were married 11 years ago, by the way. What this country needs is common sense. I cannot stress that enough. ALL SIDES ARE GUILTY. The way for that to end is possibly a great depression. Maybe if all of you on this blog with your sneering and incivility had some serious hardships on that scale, you would have a different view about what people need. I myself will provide for my family. I can subsistence farm, hunt, and build/repair things at my mother's place(paid for). What will the majority of the country do without government handouts. I have taken up more of your time than intended, if you have read this far, and I apologize. Just remember as you go vote this Nov. that the PEOPLE includes a lot of quiet ones in the corner like myself. Government controls cannot protect you. Save Yourself America.
Senate debate between Al Franken, Norm Cole and Dean Barkley
Was aired on C-Span tonight for your enjoyment. Franken sounded good,with good energy from the crowd, Norm wanted Bi-partisan congress and Dean wants less Govt.
Senate debate between Al Franken, Norm Coleman and Dean Barkley
Was aired on C-Span tonight for your enjoyment. Franken sounded good,with good energy from the crowd, Norm wanted Bi-partisan congress and Dean wants less Govt.
Benji said:
"Nobody, except the extreme right, believes that anyone but the bush administration and the republican party is responsible for the financial meltdown any more than anyone, except the extreme right, believes that Obama is a Muslim.
If Obama spent money and ad time on every mccain, palin, bush, republican and extreme right lie that was repeated over and over again, there wouldn't be any money or advertisement time left to address the real issues that concern America."
I beg to differ. There ARE voters out there that see as Obama stated, "There is blame to go around." I remember those Fannie Mae ads a few years back. I saw who was in charge of Fannie Mae. I saw the CRA legislation. I saw the sponsors of the bill that tried to reign it in. I saw the backlash. This was not a sole Republican failure. Nor was it solely a Democratic failure, though there are far more Democratic fingerprints on it. I blame you both.
I blame you both.
Obama has only started touching on the real issues now in his message. His message consists of high level platitudes, but they leave the substance out --like the Biden gay marriage surprise in the VP debate.
I blame you both.
74oilfieldtrash on October 11, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Another nutcase Repo, that thinks that he is the only one that has worked for a living, well here's news for you little one, welcome to the club.
What a dumb ass question, equating home ownership, and health care, as if their equals. Just wait until you get 25 to 30 more years on your ass.
Man i didn't know god made so many damn fools, you need to listen to your daddy, fool. But you probably have always been rebellious.
Good Night Dems, i can't stand the ignorance of these Repos any longer going to bed.
And don't forget if you need a House, McCain wants to buy you one.
I don't need one got 3 already, paid for. McCain can have mine that he wants to give me, that will make him 14.
McCain, and Palin, are the 2 biggest nutcases, that have run for the highest office in the USA.
In response to the comments that Joe Biden was somehow surprised into "admitting" that he doesn't support gay marriage, I respect your opinion, but disagree and request that you remember it is your Opinion. I feel that both Biden and Obama made their stance on the subject clear in the democratic primaries. In fact, I don't see how they could have made the matter more clear. As for the defense that Palin is somehow being treated in a sexist matter, I also disagree. Well, I disagree that the democratic party is being sexist towards her, her own party still leaves me some questions. I don't think Caribu Barbie is simply a slight on her sex, I believe it is a slight on her intelligence. It is no worse than calling McCain Mr. Magoo (which I think is hilarious because he looks like him) because he is old and slightly out of touch. And I would like to reiterate that neither party does much to stop the slanderous nicknames that their base call the others. It's just the way people are. You can't demand equality from one campaign's base and not yell just as forcefully for the same from the others.
As for the fellow who is sure that because he works hard, no one in America deserves any type of social welfare programs, I've been in your shoes. I've worked harder than most, made a better than average wage as a result, and had to watch people who didn't try as hard live pretty well because of the government. That is a situation that calls for reform of social welfare, not its dismantlement. Things change, for example, my plant closed down and got shipped to somewhere in Mexico. I lost that job and all of the standings that I had for my hard work, then found out that my wife was pregnant. If it wasn't for medicade, we would have been little better than people in a third world country. I'm not prepared to let Americans suffer because of a few peoples sense of superiority.
By the way, sorry so long winded. Too much coffee.
I blame you both.
77MiddleoftheRoad on October 11, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Really? Who died and made you referee? Some fools think blaming both sides equaly makes them non-partisan. It does not. It depends on the situation. I don't think you really know what your talking about. Maybe you can convince me. I doubt it.
Regarding the Caribou Barbie label, I don't believe in the "slippery slope" theory. Palin is not qualified for the job. She was chosen BECAUSE she is a woman. She is a dingbat. AND NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO PULL THEIR PUNCHES BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN. Clinton, on the other hand is obviously very well qualified. If anyone tried to use a "Barbie" label on her, it would be seen as foolish. She could lead this country. She is ready for the job. She knows what she is talking about and does a great job in the Senate. So I will use the Caribou Barbie label to represent Palin. I really don't care if you like it or not.
Hi Esmeralda,
Yes, the job situation is why I stayed in Maryland, but then I fell in love with the Chesapeake and my husband. Now, I don't know if you could tear me out of here. ;-)
Wow, 92 miles each way from the Capitol. You must be just north of Mansfield (Crestline? that's from faulty memory). Of course, I am assuming that you're traveling south-north daily. There are people here that commute like that from north of Baltimore due to the housing costs.
It's been 14 years since I've been home after Dad died, but home comes down to visit with me fairly often since I'm close to the other Capitol (D.C.). I've been promising that visit back, but there's never enough time to spare for my extended family with my husband's family so close.
--Prince George's county, Maryland
(It's late. This is my last post because I still have some work to get done before tomorrow, and I've been ignoring it to chatter on-and-on about election stuff that really won't change anything. I just wish I could muzzle every gender slur 'Caribou Barbie' out there, but really, I can't. )
--->Posted by MiddleoftheRoad on October 11, 2008 at 08:49 PM
Geez, I cannot imagine why anyone would be offended with people using that nickname, or how they'd feel when some politician thinks it's funny to be playing around with *somebody's* personal "theme" song as a joke about dropping bombs.
--Barbara Ann
--->Posted by MiddleoftheRoad on October 11, 2008 at 08:49 PM
Geez, I cannot imagine why anyone would be offended with people using that nickname, or how they'd feel when some politician thinks it's funny to be playing around with *somebody's* own personal "theme" song as a joke about dropping bombs.
Meh.
-Barbara Ann
(I see the IT team is still not concerned much with fixing this damnable excuse for a blog.)
Cute. How'd that happen?
And the preview function still doesn't function.
Pbbbbbbbbtht.
Seeing things like this bother me to no end. I wonder if there is any point to this at all anymore. What are we accomplishing when the very people we came to liberate long for a return of the dictator the we "saved" them from?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081012/wl_nm/us_iraq_dujail_1
These are the people Saddam was trying to exterminate and they feel less secure and safe now than when he was killing their families. Sad
Ah, Chicago. I need to take my own advice and stop reading inflammatory trash. ;-)
"I am a 36yr old middle class white man."
--->Posted by oilfieldtrash on October 11, 2008 at 10:43 PM
And you've still got a lot of growing up yet to do, son.
It isn't all about you. It's about the betterment of OUR country and ALL of its citizens.
I saw the CRA legislation. ...
I blame you both.
--->Posted by MiddleoftheRoad on October 11, 2008 at 10:51 PM
11 Racist Lies Conservatives Tell to Avoid Blaming Wall Street for the Financial Crisis
"Conservatives are twisting the facts beyond the breaking point to support their revisionist history. But don't be fooled. "
Sara Robinson, Campaign for America's Future:
>Conservative pundits and politicians have piled onto the excuse like shipwreck victims clinging to a passing log: The real blame for the current economic crisis, conservatives would have you believe, lies not with anything they did, but rather with the 1977 Community Reinvestment Act -- a successful Carter-era program designed to get banks to stop covert discrimination, and encourage them to invest their money in low-income neighborhoods.It's always easy to tell when the cons are completely lost at sea. The lies get more absurdly preposterous -- and also more transparently self-serving. But when they go so far as to openly and unapologetically latch onto race and class as an excuse for their woes (which this is, at its heart), you know they're taking on water fast -- and scared of going under entirely. [snip] Here are the basic myths they're trying to push about the CRA -- and the facts that will enable you to fire back.
MiddleoftheRoad, I don't realy know you. I don't recall seeing you on before. I hope my first response to you was not too harsh. I think it would be interesting to discuss your points of view on issues more. Please understand we have trolls that frequent this site and they change names and play games. So I am leary of new names that make statements such as those you made. We'll have to discuss things further on another day.
Good night all.
blog y'all tomorrow.
Hey, Mike! It's amazing how much one can learn, after they think they know it all.
oilfieldtrash on October 11, 2008 at 10:43 PM
You say you could survive by farming at your mothers. She you would need some help. Not everyone has someone to help, a parent alive. In this country most people simply want the dignity that a job, that provides a living wage, provides. Most Americans are happy with the dream of a small home, family, friends and job security. That is all, and if you have a living wage one day you should be able to afford a home if you spend your money wisely. Unfortunately, wages have been flat for years, worker productivity is maxed at an all time high, jobs have been shipped over seas. We lost 700,000 jobs this year, that's either 700,000 homes lost or that can't be bought, or rent that can not be paid. Without Living Wage Jobs we have no America. It is that simple. That's why we fight for the party that knows this. The party that knows that when the middle class is doing well so do wealthy people. Trickle down economics didn't work for Reagan, he had to raise taxes. Reagan ran up a deficit when he left office so did the first bush and you know about the second. Clinton, a dem, did not run up deficits, we had jobs, and could help those who couldn't help themselves. It's called Humanity, it is what Jesus would do and it is what the Democrats do.
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newsjunkie on October 12, 2008 at 12:10 AM
And don't forget the Pugs' favorite talking point...
"Productivity is UP to its HIGHEST LEVEL since Ray-Gun!".
All that means is that the workers are producing MORE while making LESS.
And they can't quit and go work down the street because THERE ARE ZERO JOBS DOWN THE STREET!
Pugs suck.
Boot them ALL out.
Barbi on October 12, 2008 at 12:05 AM
I've been ranting about this all day. What I have been getting is that it is Obama, Dodd, and Franks stopped the republicans two years ago when they tried to fix fannie and freddie, now fm and fm caused the whole world financial markets to collapse.
Only problem is, it was 2005, it was Chuck Hagels bill, it addressed accounting issues not lending practices, it was the 109th Republican congress and the bill never made it out of Rick Santorums committee.
There is an intense e-mail, radio, MSM, and McCain all are saying this over and over and I haven't seen barack or his contributors on the MSM debunk this bunk.
I think it is serious. If people don't hear anything different they will believe this nonsense. Of course all of the republicans do. I'm worried about the undecided voters.
I've posted this on Huffington Post at least 10 times and on baracks site. This is a swiftboat attack and he needs to end it NOW!
I do apologize if I was snarky about the Barbie thing. NOT! And I DO kind of cringe when I see it flung around. Probably about the same as any Kathy, or Cathy. would when hearing "Chatty Cathy" flung around, too.
But I am, as I would guess our "keep on rockin'" gal would be, NOT so old fogeyish as to not understand the snark and humor behind it.
"Barbara Ann" IS my real, legal name.
And you just have to know that song was written just for me, doncha?!! And how many of you other oldies remember the two other "Barbara" songs from that era? Huh? Huh?
;o)
Then leave, you worthless piece of shit.
Your Densa membership sure as Hell isn't raising the Public discourse, now is it? You moron.
Well, if you, and your other inane troll cohorts, were to take your drivel and leave it Stevie Sally, and the intelligence quotient would go up considerably.
Um, I remember that Streisand had an album called "My name is Barbra" and I said "who cares? You still suck". Other than that can you fill me in on the others?
The Barbara of Seville?
Haley Barbour?
I'm at a loss here.
LOL!
"Please Don't Ask About Barbara"
and (*giggle*)
"If Barbara Were An Angel"
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/stoptheinsanity/gGgyTb
Here is the so called republicans trying to fix fannie and freddie, it's from barack so you know it is true, unlike McCain who lies through the whole in his teeth.
WOW!!!!
YOU are famous!
Bobby Vee had the Number ONE hit on the Billboard list and was knocked off by a quartet of mop tops from Liverpool.
Nobody has ever heard of any of them since.
Hey!
I just remembered... no forget about that. It was during the "dead teenagers in a car crash" phase of AM radio. And her name was always Laura or Lori or something that rhymed with "BOO HOO I KILLED HER". BUT at least she got her class ring while the train was barreling down on her and, and, and the dude returned the Letter sweater to her house and, and, and, she was a GHOST, and, and, and whatever else happened...too many "dead teenagers in a car songs. Thank GOD we never had sex anywhere, let alone in a car!
(Those Ramblers had GREAT back seats. Studebakers were like being in *uckingham Palace!)
For the trolls, that is probably true.
Oh, forget it.
(She was a ghost, doncha know? {{wink}})
KIDS!! STAY OUT OF CARS! AND DON'T DATE THE QUARTERBACK!
EVER!
He WILL kill you! But he will regret it and sing about it in 2 minutes and 20 seconds.
--->Posted by newsjunkie on October 12, 2008 at 12:24 AM
and
--->Posted by newsjunkie on October 12, 2008 at 12:58 AM
The depths the republic will sink to are amazing. Just goes to show you how good their credibility really is. They've got nothing, except a Reagan economy on steroids, and since the republics had control of both houses in Congress, the onus is on them for the f-ed up economy they helped drive the country into.
In other words, they've got nuttin' left but fear and smear.
This country deserves better than that. Time to clean the houses, and clocks.
"Enough!"
http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1849399,00.html
The reform, good ole boy, ruffle some feathers, fake palin got busted for being, what else, just another dumb republican crook. No morals, so much for all of that church time, no ethics, nadda.
Now the Public Safety Director will sue her in a civil suit, and get lots of dough.
Barbi on October 12, 2008 at 01:19 AM
When is Barack going to end this crap. On Bill Maher this republican twit even mentioned that it was barney frank and chris dodd, who stopped the republicans on fixing fm and fm.
I swear I'm going nuts, why is he missing the fact that no one on the msm is adequately putting this thing to bed?
Famous! Bwahahahaha!
Doo-Bee. Yes, you Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo!
In the back seat. Now! {{smooch}}
(Were you thinking of "Tell Laura I Love Her?"
--->newsjunkie on October 12, 2008 at 01:30 AM
Hopefully, this can start to end on the day Barack Obama gets sworn in.
It's going to be a very long and difficult road to try to even start to repair all the damage the PNAC neo-cons forced on this country for all the years they have had control of Congress and government through the different administrations, from Reagan on up to this lousy @$$ed irresponsible one. Remember, W has been a failure and EVERY dang business venture he's ever been involved in. And his being selected as president of this great country hasn't broken his track record of being a failure at everything he"s ever done. Someone here said he has the "Anti-Midas touch: everything he touches turns to crap." ( {{SandyH?}} )
Obama cannot do all that needs done all by himself, either. He will need the help of Congress, too. That's why it is important that more Democrats get elected into seats in Congress.
And the government needs to go back to being a government of "WE, the PEOPLE" and not one controlled by crooked corporate cronies and lobbyists who get rewarded by the taxpaying hard-working class citizens for their incompetence in running things, or that of a "commander/dictator guy" who has no respect for the laws of our land, natural law, or our country's own ("god-damned piece of paper") Constitutional law.
Fasten your seatbelt, the rough ride is only just beginning.
Here's a "handy-dandy" little guide from the editors at AlterNet that may help folks understand some of the economic issues we have, and the stances each candidate has on them.
failure and EVERY *blush" (It's late.)
s/b "failure at EVERY dang"
Hey, it's alright, (uptight, outta sight), and I've got two more bottles of whine.
...why is he missing the fact that no one on the msm is adequately putting this thing to bed?
--->newsjunkie on October 12, 2008 at 01:30 AM
First off, you have to understand exactly who it is that owns most of the MSM! And it is NOT Democrats, no matter HOW much the Morans screech about the (so-called) "liberal" media!
It's all just a bunch little buzz words and parroted phrases that they repeat over and over again that doofus people swig down like BS Kool-Aid, because they are too stupid to know how stupid they are, or too fricken lazy to take the time to research real facts for themselves.
In 1980 I worked at a club and made, after 90 days, 4.50 an hour plus tips. We had two shows a night. Phylis Diller, John Cougar (before the mellancamp), Ian Hunter, The Romatics, all played there. I got fired though when they found out I was only 17. Hey, a girl has got to make a living. We had big names and I was making big bucks.
Today, 28 years later, a waiter makes 2.12 an hour plus tips.
Your lucky if, without an education, you can find a job making 10 bucks an hour. In the North everyone got out of school and went to work in the factory making 15 an hour with bennies, 28 years ago.
Peace good dems, and good night.
Whine on Harvest MOON? You're such an @$$, Stevie Sally.
"So is it written. So shall it be."
May some god have mercy on your sick soul. But I sincerely doubt it will happen.
--->Stevie (*moran*) Sally, your troll buddy "Dr. Burd crap" from Germany has no say, either, and yet you think it is okay that he posts here? What a hypocrite POS you are!
Pbbbbbtht!
--->AussieDem, I see you have already figured out that the "resident troll" is a demented and delusional sicko!
(I am, mostly, a long time devoted "lurker" to this site, and I have been here since about the same time as the tiny weenied troll, who calls himself Sally, followed the Foiled Hat Friends (as I did) over to this site when it was first created. He's a moon barking asshat of the nth degree, and out of touch with sanity and reality.
Thumbs up to you, AussieDem! And good luck in your elections on, from across the big pond.
---
Karma's gonna getcha, Stevie Sally. Go to bed and sleep it off, ya old doofus buzzard. DPD has done more really great things in his life than you could ever hope to accomplish. And he is my friend.
You've got nothin' going for you, Frosty Sally. Absolutely nothing.
--
Goodnight/morning to all you {{good Dems}}!
{{{smooches!}}}
"There you go, again."
Thought I was gone, didja, Stevie? Idiot.
I smooched the {{good Dems}}. I wouldn’t smooch you if you were dipped in chocolate and covered in gold.
AssHat!
Aussie, I really do understand what you are saying about the history of your country.
(Kinsman! Aye!)
Many of me own ancestors were "forced" to come here to this country, some well before Rev. War, and from those verra same "Isles" during those many bad times. Peace be upon you, and
Sláinte mhór!
Go to Hell, Stevie Sally. They've got a special spot reserved for you and your nasty kind.
Put your alcohol wipes where the sun doesn't shine, Stevie. That's the best thrill you can ever hope to get.
Stevie Sally, I am neither old, nor ugly. You're just a frustrated and dysfunctional useless (in SO many ways) impotent old coot.
Blech.
Wrong again, Steverino. And kiss my royal @$$. You know absolutely nothing about the long and detailed history of my clans. And many they be, from Kenneth MacAlpin, his ownself, and all the way down to the MacGregors (*Despite them!*), and more, who were forced off their ancient and ancestral lands by greedy money grabbing opportunists.
So, just STFU yer own damn self you old potato boat Swede.
You're lacking again in your factual historical knowledge, Stevie Sally. My Irish kin also kicked a lot of Norse and Brit arse, and big time. You ignorant silly old fool. And the damn Brits still don't want to let go of Northern Ireland, which they are not, and never were, entitled to.
Don't EVER try to instruct me as to MY ancestry.
feel bette ???
Bette Midler??
Phffft. In your dreams, maybe.
No, you stupid asshat. The Scots originally came from Ireland. So much for your "Densa" knowledge.
No, Not MY kin. Yeah, there were some raids and monastic plundering made by barbarian greedy Norsemen. That's not something to be very proud of. My people were the ones that fought you wussies off and made you either surrender and assimilate, or fricken die or leave the country.
Nice diverionary tactic, Sally. No soup for you.
Adam and Eve did NOT ride to church every Sunday on a dinosaur. Your thinking is so Flintstone cartoonish.
Go to bed you old fool. It's way past your bedtime and you're not making any sense. (Not that you ever do.) You're just the comic entertainment that the DNC allows here. That's all.
Morning barbi,
My power has been off now for fourteen hours. A bunch of cells went through here last afternoon and we had a tornado warning in northeastern New Mexico.
Thank goodness for my generator and satellite.
They announced on the radio that the power is off in central New Mexico and said they will have it back on some time today.
Now I see how the Iraqis live.
Yeah, and croc and gaters and caymans are living dinosaur-like creatures, too. What's your point?
Top of the mornin' to ye, {{JohnE}}.
I'm sorry to hear about the storms knocking out your power, but the rain was welcome, yes?
Barbi,
We didn't have rain where I live. The cell went through north of us.
I just heard on the news that the hurricane just slammed Baja California and heavy rains are expected in Mexico, Texas and New Mexico. They will probably be south of us. We are in central NM.
Even the phones are out. I tried to call the power coop last night on my cell phone but their phones are out too.
It is comforting to see the lights of Albuquerque in the distance.
bbl, off to get some gas for my generator. With the whole of central NM without power, it could be days before they get it fixed.
Well, it is difficult to tell amongst liberals where we have man like women and women like men but both genders are pussies.
152Sally-* on October 12, 2008 at 06:09 AM
and you brag about being a charter member here. hahaha
Oh, dang! I hope you may still have a decently good day, Johne, in spite of it all.
Good morning, Esmeralda! Did I read that there was a *special* birthday yesterday?
CNN
Bush to country:
"Bush: 'Lot of work to do' before leaving office
President Bush is down to his final 100 days in office as of Sunday, but don't expect a quiet fade into the Texas night. The bleakest economic downturn in decades has changed the dynamic drastically, keeping Bush and his financial team in activist mode to the end."
Country to Bush:
"No thanks champ. You've done more than enough for us already!"
Morning Dems and {{{Barbi}}} a special Hello to you! I am always happy to see your posts here. Some of the best information we get. You KNOW the way to shut these trolls up, is to post FACTS and TRUTH that prove they are nothing but sheeple drinking the koolaid, because they vote with their wallet (or in Stevie's case who has no wallet, his screwed up religious beliefs)!
And for the poster "Oilfieldtrash", I am amazed at such smugness and little understanding of those in America's society who do not just go farm, hunt and repair in their Mother's paid for home!
The trolls latest on me is that I am a housewife. Yeah, I guess I am now that I was able to retire at 59 1/2 because I worked my ass off and got promoted and promoted for years. But you see, I understand that the people in the tenements in the inner cities are there because of their environment and circumstances. They just tried to get out of there, when dishonest mortgage companies promised them, YES, they too could move to a house in the suburbs. Not all of them are future basketball players you know. they HAVE no Mother's paid for homes to go to and 'repair' whatever the hell it is you repair. They have no fields to farm. Yet I saw these people getting up before dawn, riding 2-3 buses to hospitals, factories, etc, to make a day's pay. I was up with them and at my desk every morning as the sun came up. So do not lecture anyone on the fact that all they have to do is go and do for themselves, because it is Bias like your's that keeps them down! Why Affirmative Action is still necessary in this day and age.
And you like to imagine that you made it all on your own. Well remember My Friend, that if not for Democrats over the years, you would not have had : Minimum Wage, Unemployment insurance, 8-hour workday, Child work laws, Unions, Workers Compensation, overtime pay, Social Security, ADA and FMLA! They took good care of you !
So have some understanding, empathy, compassion for those who are struggling to make it each day, instead of this Republican idea that they are all sitting there waiting for the welfare check to arrive !
"AussieDem on October 12, 2008 at 02:46 AM"
"From an inhabitant of a former penal colony who has absolutely no say in our election."
"126Sally-* on October 12, 2008 at 03:34 AM"
Would you kindly remind your German buddy who trolls here, the same goes for him? His hatred knows no bounds!
and one last one before I leave for the morning:
Crossing Over
As the U.S. Economy Sputters, Working-Class Women Shift to Obama
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122370058766625819.html
good morning pam. it is good to see barbi up and about. i understand you can see palin's house from her house up there in wood buffalo national park.
staying with my policy of only paying attention to polls that are going my way i find myself paying attention to a lot of polls these days...
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrat Barack Obama has opened a 6-point lead over Republican rival John McCain in the U.S. presidential race, according to a Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll released on Sunday.
Obama leads McCain by 49 percent to 43 percent among likely U.S. voters in the latest four-day tracking poll, his widest lead since the poll was started on Tuesday. It was up from a 4-point lead on Saturday. The poll has a margin of error of 2.9 percentage points.
"Pollster John Zogby said Obama's lead was now statistically significant.
"As we watch each day, it is clear that he has gone from a 2-point lead to a 3-point lead on up to 6 points," Zogby said. "It is certainly trending his way."
With just over three weeks to go before the November 4 election, the poll showed Obama gaining traction among independent voters who now back him by a 21-point margin.
Among women, another crucial group, the Illinois senator held a solid 12-point lead, while the two candidates were tied among male voters at 45 percent apiece..."
http://www.newstin.co.uk/tag/uk/80770952
Nun, 106, to back Obama after not voting since 1952
Sister Cecilia has lived in the convent in Rome for 50 years A 106-year-old American nun living in a convent in Rome could well be the oldest person to vote in the 2008 US Presidential election. Sister Cecilia Gaudette, who last voted for President Eisenhower in 1952, has registered to vote and says she will vote for Democrat Barack Obama.
Good morning, PamB! It's about as easy for me to finally get into this blog to post as it is to shoot pool with a rope!
I didn't notice that anyone had referenced this article from a few days ago (forgive me if I overlooked it), but I thought this was a pretty good article:
McCain and Bush: Unconcerned with the Needs of Ordinary Americans
McCain is not a perfect replica of George W. Bush. But neither man seems to have any sense of how we actually live or what we need from government.
I am not a conventionally religious man, or even a very superstitious one, but I do wish George Bush would stop asking God to bless America. Every time he does, we seem to be visited with another plague, suggesting divine wrath over our president's evil ways. How else to explain the persistent calamity that has marked this administration: a pointless but very costly war over nonexistent Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, the devastating New Orleans flood, the betrayal of the nation by the money-changers -- from Enron to Goldman Sachs -- that Bush welcomed into the temple of the White House?
What's next? Pestilence, frogs, locusts or incurable boils? Dare we risk four more years of catastrophic misrule by a "W" alter ego? For those indifferent to the serious implications of that question, I recommend Oliver Stone's new bio-flick, which brilliantly captures the "banality of evil" that has controlled our political life these past eight years. This phrase from Hannah Arendt's characterization of the mundane cruelty that so marked the daily experience of European fascism has a frightening applicability to the Republican leadership that has done so much damage to this nation's reputation for democratic integrity.
Cynicism rules even as ritualistic prayer breaks, as depicted in the film , abound. The pretense of piety earns the president and his accomplices a get-out-of-jail-free card; at no point in the film do any in the top ranks of this administration -- captured so accurately and depressingly -- accept one iota of accountability for how much damage they have wrought. Unrepentant, the same Republican apparatchiks are employing the familiar Rovian tactic of divide and conquer in seeking to continue their hold on power. Once again, they seek to focus attention on hot-button social issues and patriotic litmus tests to draw attention from the fact that family values are being destroyed by the loss of job and home.
Perhaps John McCain is not a perfect replica of George W. Bush, but the parallels go beyond the senator's enthusiastic support for the toxic mix of Bush's imperial foreign policy and his arrogant indifference to the travails of our domestic existence. [snip]
Don't say we weren't warned...
Did I read that there was a *special* birthday yesterday?
178Barbi on October 12, 2008 at 08:29 AM
hi Barbi! good to read you.
It was very special! Bella is the best behaved baby I have ever seen. (not just bragging here either) I can't wait for the 2 December girls to arrive. Today we (all us girls) are going shopping for decorations and party supplies for Necee's baby shower. (which will be the Sunday after the election).
"WASHINGTON — Significantly more monthly churchgoers are supporting the Democratic nominee — Sen. Barack Obama — in this year's presidential election than in the 2004 election cycle, according to a new poll.
Voters who attend religious services one to two times a month are supporting the Democratic nominee by 60%, up from 49% who supported Sen. John Kerry in 2004, based on a survey released Oct. 8 by the nonpartisan group Faith in Public Life.
"The fact that he's getting 60% of those voters shows that there has been a movement overall in the last four years in terms of Democratic outreach with religious Americans," said Amy Sullivan, whose book The Party Faithful examines Democrats' outreach to religious voters.
"That might be related more to economic issues than anything else this year, but it does show that religious voters are willing to vote for Democrats."...
...another factor in this apparent change of heart on the part of the faithful could be the discovery of a contract written on a leg of lamb between sarah palin and a guy named beelzebub that would make her capable of lying and chewing gum at the same time in exchange for her dog sled team...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/10/12/MNVM139IPN.DTL
Palin poses dilemma for some evangelicals
In a white-steepled church along a stretch in picturesque Canyon Country, the preacher laid out the basic blueprint of a godly marriage: Husbands lead, wives submit.
Oops that was supposed to be
"in the film W, abound."
(Stupid dysfunction junction preview function.)
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008257178_favorfactory12.html
The Favor Factory | Despite reforms, Congress hides $3.5B in defense earmarks
No matter who wins, the next president promises to take back Washington from powerful interests and lobbyists.
--->Esmeralda on October 12, 2008 at 09:03 AM
Oh, good! My mind isn't going... umm... totally! Yet.
May I request that you pass a smooch and hug to that little sweetie pie, from a "secret pal" me, through you?
You lucky woman!
Lots to do before the carpenter gets home from Charlotte, NC where he attended his first NASCAR race. His boss took him as a BONUS for all the hard work he has done this year.(it was awesome to watch on tv, I bet he has lots of great pictures and stories to tell...I can't wait)
Gotta put that "solar clothes dryer" to good use. ahhh...bed sheets dried outside on a cool, crisp, sunny Autumn morning. That outta feel good to fall into tonight!
Proverbs 3:5-6
Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make your paths straight.
Enjoy this day, everyone.
I will gladly give her a smooth from you! I love her so much!
Be well, cause I know you're good.
;)
oh crud! a kiss..smooch! haha
(I'm getting to be as bad as the anal trools)
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just because today is so wonderful! I'm blessed beyond measure, I drink from my saucer.
"Sow for yourselves righteousness, reap the fruit of unfailing love, and break up your unplowed ground; for it is time to seek the LORD, until he comes and showers righteousness on you."
— Hosea 10:12
husbands lead, wives split is more like it.
i can't wait for the movie "W"...barbi i could have sworn i saw oliver stone on the tube a year ago saying the movie wouldn't be critical of bush but the preview stuff is hysterical...
Gregg, I think he was on Maher Friday {?}, but I was multitasking (messing up several things at once) and didn't catch it all.
McCain and Greenspan's Keating Connection
For the second time in two decades, John McCain and Alan Greenspan find themselves jointly linked to a major crisis in the American financial system. The New York Times' stinging rebuke of Greenspan Friday for his role in helping trigger the current Wall Street meltdown only served to remind Americans of John McCain's 2007 admission that his limited knowledge of the economy amounted to "I've got Greenspan's book." But as it turns out, McCain turned to Greenspan's writing once before during the 1980's, work the future Fed chairman did on behalf of none other than Charles Keating.
Good morning, all.
You know what's wrong with McCain?
He's at war...with the American worker, fiscal conservatives, military planners, women, seniors on social security, consumers, civil libertarians....the list goes on.
One by one he's pissing off every demographic group with his mavericky ways. Our people want stability. We want firm plans to handle our programs not more Bush policies that constantly change and always have individuals scrambling around looking for the answers themselves.
We want to be protected by our government. We don't want more incentives and bailouts for those who cause the problems. In particular, we don't want the health care system deregulated the way the housing system was. We want our President to stand up to the market and tell insurers what the bare minimum is that HE WILL ALLOW.
We don't want any more of this crap about here is the deal...YOU figure out how to do it yourself.
Be our leader. Mavericks are gamblers who risk other peoples fortunes and futures.
QUESTION: How can Obama promise to take back Washington from powerful interests and lobbyists when he is now accepting campaign contributions from them. McCain has it on this point. Obama will have a lot more media coverage, but pay attention to who is sponsoring some of those Obama biased claiming to be unbiased shows. I voted for Obama for congress, I won't make that mistake again.
-Disappointed in Illinois
Despairing Republicans Turn On McCain
Republicans, unlike Democrats, have not had a track record of sharing their angst in print and in public. Rarely do they admit that the Democrats have an effective strategy.
Not this time. Obama's "he's erratic, just look at him" strategy is so effective, it's sparked this headline in the NY Times:
G.O.P. Officials Hope for Stability From McCain
;o)
How will she get out of this one?
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chassie on October 11, 2008 at 06:33 PM
hey s fo brains, how many counts of sexual harrassment did slickwilly get over on. Teddy "the swimmer" Kennedy got away with murder. By the way, is he still alive?
You are pathetic you white trash ! HONK HONK HONK!!! bwhahahahahahahahaha
goodnite Dems. Have to call it a night.
Blog ya tomorrow.
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PamB on October 11, 2008 at 09:06 PM
speaking of white trash, where are you living now that the fire dept used your flea infested trailer for a "practice" burn?
Sally-* on October 11, 2008 at 09:20 PM
Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
I´d be afraid too. Of any std´s.
DisappointedinIL on October 12, 2008 at 09:50 AM
How do we know if McCain isn't accepting money from powerful interests? His wife won't release the family tax returns.
Obama's money trail is public record and can be examined easily if you Google it instead of instantly buying into every Heritage Foundation generated e-mail sent to you by hysterical "dear friends." McCain is the one who refuses to be transparent about who he is.
And McCain is the one who relies on a staff full of lobbyists whose strategy is to divert your attention from what McCain really wants to do...for them.
The mavericky way he conducts himself has you trying to evaluate policies he changes almost daily now. He wants you to believe he is for and against everything at the same time. I don't believe anything he says.
The GOP should have nominated The Flipper. He at least admitted he was wrong and was changing his mind. McCain appears to be losing his.
One of mccain's religios freak pseudo friends, in the lower 48, spewed from the pulpit that he is praying to God that Obama loses.
Talk about not caring for America. I'll see if I can find the link.
--->DisappointedinIL on October 12, 2008 at 09:50 AM
Surely you jest!
Hereeee's Johnny!
Good OLD Lobbyist Lovin' McCain:
For documentation and citations for the information provided in the graph, see the links on...
...this page: "The McCain-Lobbyist Connection Citations"
McCain Campaign Staffed By Telecom Immunity Lobbyists:
McCainSource.com has compiled a list of lobbyists on the McCain campaign ("McCain Has Had At Least 133 Lobbyists Running His Campaign & Raising Money For Him")
newsjunkie on October 12, 2008 at 02:20 AM
Real Groupie material huh? Wow, I´m impressed.
Do they REALLY want to stay with the fuzzy links to Ayers??
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/10/palin_chryson/
Sarah's political career helped and shaped by a radical secession extremist
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/07/palins_unamerican/
Sarah's ties to antiAmerican radicals...and IRAN
Sarah NEEDS to tell the truth completely about HER involvement with THESE shady folks.
Obama is on record (although, since it isn't what the repubs weant to hear...they feel it's not the truth)
Sarah has YET to explain herself. And I doubt she will prior to the elections.
Yep - for a small number of years we had convicts sent here to live the remainder of their lives for horrible crimes such as stealing food - AussieDem on October 12, 2008 at 05:02 AM
other horrible crimes such as murder, faggotism. And you guys really had fun treating the Aborigines "good" for many years didn´t you?
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Barbi on October 12, 2008 at 05:21 AM
What would you do for $5?
Barbi on October 12, 2008 at 09:56 AM
Hi, Barbi.
That's the same sentiment that I was finding yesterday when canvasssing. Either the Republicans could not defend McCain and didn't want to say if they would vote for him or they were openly questioning how he's conducting himself.
The Independents now believe Obama can conduct himself reasonably and responsibly. They don't feel the same way about McCain.
He has one more chance in this last debate with the few Undecided Independents left...and they aren't expecting to see anything different than what they have been seeing in the past few weeks.
I'm thinking Bob Barr is going to do a lot better than anyone has predicted and he hasn't even gotten any press. McCain is driving away Republicans from their own Party.
well it's almost a month gone by now since ms. sally promised that obama's poll numbers would steadily drop...so let's see just how accurate sister sally was....
polls on 9/16
RCP Average 09/05 - 09/15 -- 46.3 45.0 McCain +1.3
Gallup Tracking 09/13 - 09/15 2800 RV 47 46 McCain +1
Hotline/FD Tracking 09/13 - 09/15 909 RV 42 46 Obama +4
Rasmussen Tracking 09/13 - 09/15 3000 LV 48 47 McCain +1
Newsweek 09/10 - 09/11 1038 RV 46 46 Tie
Battleground* 09/07 - 09/11 1000 LV 48 44 McCain +4
FOX News 09/08 - 09/09 900 RV 45 42 McCain +3
and now...
RCP Average 10/03 - 10/11 -- 49.9 42.2 Obama +7.7
Gallup Tracking 10/08 - 10/10 2773 RV 51 42 Obama +9
Hotline/FD Tracking 10/08 - 10/10 808 LV 50 40 Obama +10
Rasmussen Tracking 10/09 - 10/11 3000 LV 51 45 Obama +6
Newsweek 10/08 - 10/09 1035 RV 52 41 Obama +11
GW/Battleground Tracking 10/06 - 10/09 800 LV 51 43 Obama +8
FOX News 10/08 - 10/09 900 RV 46 39 Obama +7
well once again sister sally's predictions are uncannily accurate!! hahahahahahahahaha
Daring to utter the 'L' word: Obama on track to a landslide
Steven Thomma - McClatchy Newspapers
Barring a dramatic change in the political landscape over the next three weeks, Democrats appear headed toward a decisive victory on Election Day that would give them broad power over the federal government.
neocon,
Your people did a hell of alot worse. The killed indians and n-----s for target practise.
In this modern day Hitler's stooges killed Jews for fun.
So knock of the lies about Australia and their treatment of the Aborigines.
Hey, Butte, if you're out there...
Are you guys getting snow already? Our weather guy just said there was two feet in some places in Montana.
Yikes. I had forgotten about the weather on election day. Well, that's why I've signed up to drive voters to the polls. A little rain wouldn't make me melt...but snow is always a possibility in early November in many parts of the country.
Get out the vote...even if you have to borrow Todd Palin's snowmobile.
Only Singapore, South Africa and Hong Kong are growing faster than us in terms of $Millionaires
AussieDem on October 12, 2008 at 06:17 AM
You should be carefull when posting stuff like THAT on THIS blog. The liberal Queens and Dykes here only brag about that behind closed doors. Its not something they would do in public.
Hi SandyH! Knowing they are all 'flustrated' is kind of nice, isn't it?!
I'm catching similar sentiments here, too! And I have only seen a maybe yard signs in our area for the McFailin' team.
*snicker*
Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence. Conservatism is distrust of the people tempered by fear. ~William E. Gladstone
by DCBlue on Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 10:12:04 AM PDT
Is there any prettier place on earth than Nag's Head, NC? The Lord must have reached into the ocean and formed Man from it's abundance.
Don't you love the final segment of CBS Sunday Morning? They always take you someplace in America that is still untouched and left natural the way God meant it to be.
bbl.
Johne on October 12, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Johnnyweird, are you still holed up out there in Belen, playing with those dools out in the shed?
neocon,
Your people did a hell of alot worse. The killed indians and n-----sfor target practise.
In this modern day Hitler's stooges killed Jews for fun.
So knock of the lies about Australia and their treatment of the Aborigines.
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Johne on October 12, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Hey johnny, what is this: n-----s ? And just what do you mean by my people? Please clarify that you old moron.
A clarification needed-
Dear Senator Obama:
As a life long Democrat there is a point of clarification I hope you can address. Regarding the issue of the leadership of the Republican Party, it is apparent Mr. McCain can not so, so it is up to you. It is important that the American public see what has happened during the current financial train wreck. A wreck that affects us all.
(with all due respect and that this is not a personal attack but simply an outsider’s observation) Please ask Senator McCain the following:
As self proclaimed “mavericks” of the Republican Party and after nearly 30 years of ineffectively changing your party regarding important issues, do you think the American public is so naïve as to expect that you and Sarah Palin can now lead the nation when you can not lead your own party? If you can not change the direction of your own party, how are you to change the direction of the country?
We have seen time and again that under Republican leadership, rather than be the party change, the party of business and commerce, we have seen Republican leadership destruct business and commerce. This leadership has time and again resulted in the utter destruction of wealth! The historical Republican ideology of hands off, deregulation has led us into the worst economic crises of modern times…..1929 with Republican Herbert Hoover, 1987 with Ronald Reagan, and now 2008 with George W. Bush. Is there a pattern here? I THINK SO! Even Sarah Palin must know the adage that those who are ignorant of their own history are doomed to repeat it.
Through the Republican leadership and the undue influence of “big oil”, our country has had the policy of no energy policy. I’m sorry but “Drill, baby, drill” is NOT an energy policy. Letting the oil industry direct energy policy will only INCREASE our dependence on foreign oil. Letting the oil industry direct energy policy will result in the destruction of some of our countries most cherished natural areas. This is not a legacy I want to see. We need a BETTER county for our upcoming generations NOT a degraded country for the sake of gasoline. Corporations should not be left to lead our nation. The Republican policies of getting government out of the way have only, to our misfortune, allowed the "wolves to run the chicken coop". When the wolves cry that all the chickens are gone, we know why the chickens are gone. I, for one, do not think the American people should just go buy them more chickens. We need to recognize the coop and the chickens are not the problem, it is the wolves. We need change that recognizes problems, not just get different wolves!
By insisting on having a “hands off” policy regarding the financial and banking system, the Republicans once again have led us into another financial crisis. Mr. Bush inherited a spending surplus, but has led us into an unwarranted war in Iraq with deficit spending. Is this what we can expect of more Republican leadership? If not, what is? For what does the Republican Party stand? Where is it leading us? Where is their leadership? Where have the “mavericks” been over the last 8 years? Where is the change in the Republican Party!
When our country, our ship, stops dead in the water we need a captain. We don’t need a captain that says “eh, we seem to have an engine problem, but basically our ship is sound”. We need leadership that can see the problem before the crisis. We need someone who can get in there, get their hands dirty and fix our nation’s economic engine. We need a captain who can also have enough leadership to perform regular engine maintenance! We need a captain who can see the horizon and recognize when we have a problem before it become a crisis. We can’t wait until we hit Niagara Falls to turn the ship. We need hands on the wheel with vision or we do not have direction. We need leadership, not “hands off” policies. We need ideas not ideology!
Back to my question: When will you, Mr. McCain gain control of the Republican Party? Are we going to see, under your administration, four years of “herding cats”? Can our country endure four more years of Republican lack of leadership? We need leadership in time of crisis, not more poor judgment. Please, wait until you can effectively lead the Republican Party BEFORE you ask America to lead this nation. We can not have MORE OF THE SAME. Enough is Enough!!
I think we should have a poll for our blog. Everybody should post they´re opinion: is dUHstY a trool, liberal or one of the reg 8´s feeble efforts at being someone else. Personaly, I thinks its DopeyDoodle.
Check out this website. This man William Wilberforce led the fight to outlaw the importation of slaves to the West Indies. He was inspired by the hymn Amazing Grace.
It turns out that Thomas Jefferson's grandson led the Virginia government to outlaw the importation of slaves 29 years earlier.
We rented the movie Amazing Grace from Netflix and thoroughly enjoyed it.
William Wilberforce in his long career as a commoner in the British Parliament led the fight to pass legislation on health, labor and many other issues.
We need a man like this in our government and I am certain that Barack Obama is that man.
Amazing Grace, William Wilberforce, and Thomas Jefferson's Grandson
One for the road...
Don't you think that the McCain camp is just compounding their problem?
By turning their attack on John Lewis who was voicing his concern about some of the racial tension that has cropped up in Palin rallies...McCain's lobbyist advisers are acting even more out of touch with voters who are already worried about McCain's uncertainty over what to do about the economy.
Those videos don't lie. McCain and Palin do...constantly....because they don't have any concrete ideas about what to do about the very real problems the middle class faces in this country.
All they have are those rallies...and they have turned ugly.
the British "upper class" acted just like the neocons. They kept commoners down and did not let them get an education because they were afraid they would eventually revolt. These British "upper class" assholes wanted it all for themselves and their rich friends. Doesn't this sound familiar?
WORD OF THE DAY
MESSIAHISM
An inexplicable 21st century mental meltdown, which instills those so afflicted with a smugly sanctimonious conviction of being specially anointed to save the merely mortal from their political sins.
Please clarify that you old moron.
JOHNE,
The troll called you a "moron" and said "please" at the same time.
You better be careful, next thing you know, the troll will be attempting to make a coherent argument.
Oh no, anything but that.
WORD OF THE DAY
"ASSHOLEISM"
An inexplicable 21st century mental meltdown, which instills those so afflicted with a smugly sanctimonious conviction of being the decider, taking instructions from God, and especially anointed to dominate the world as leader of the Fourth Reich.
Benji on October 12, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Are you pro jewish?
I find it fascinating how little sally has found herself new playmates in the schoolyard.
Morning BENJI,
Don't worry, I have my anti-troll spray. It's called "Loser Troll" and guaranteed to fend off troll attacks.
232neo_con on October 12, 2008 at 11:05 AM
Are you pro jewish?
Benji on October 12, 2008 at 11:09 AM
You are starting to act like dUHstY
We received our absentee ballots in the mail yesterday. I am voting straight DEMOCRATIC.
I will be sure to use a number two pencil. We were warned the other day on progressive radio that if one uses a pen, the readers reflect light off the ink and does not register your vote. So be sure to use a number two pencil if the ballot so instructs you to do.
KKKarl has all kinds of tricks up his sleeve. He has probably corrupted the Post Office and has Democratic ballots "lost" until after the election. I am fooling this treasonous pig and I am hand carrying our ballots directly to the election offials some 32 miles away.
So there.
Johne on October 12, 2008 at 11:12 AM
Right Johnny, just like those CIA spy planes flying over your shanty.
Terrific. Bush led us into an economic Iraqi strategy, too.
Instead of going after the real problem with the stability of the banks Paulson told us it wasn't Afghanstan at all but the mortgage companies in Iraq.
White House Overhauling Rescue Plan
By EDMUND L. ANDREWS and MARK LANDLER
Published: October 11, 2008
WASHINGTON — As international leaders gathered here on Saturday to grapple with the global financial crisis, the Bush administration embarked on an overhaul of its own strategy for rescuing the foundering financial system.
Two weeks after persuading Congress to let it spend $700 billion to buy distressed securities tied to mortgages, the Bush administration has put that idea aside in favor of a new approach that would have the government inject capital directly into the nation’s banks — in effect, partially nationalizing the industry.
As recently as Sept. 23, senior officials had publicly derided proposals by Democrats to have the government take ownership stakes in banks.
The Treasury Department’s surprising turnaround on the issue of buying stock in banks, which has now become its primary focus, has raised questions about whether the administration squandered valuable time in trying to sell Congress on a plan that officials had failed to think through in advance.
It has also raised questions about whether the administration’s deep philosophical aversion to government ownership in private companies hindered its ability to look at all options for stabilizing the markets.
Some experts also contend that Treasury’s decision last month to not use taxpayer money to save Lehman Brothers worsened the panic that quickly metastasized into an international crisis...
Republicans just don't know what they are doing.
They wasted weeks of precious time and efforts by Congress going after red herrings when they couldn't even isolate the real problem till now.
Republicans in the White House are the ones with the raw data which they have kept to themselves for the last eight years manipulating it to make themselves look good....while a crisis brewed. We have to rely on the Executive to be frank about economic conditions and work with Congress.
The Republicans in the White House haven't and nobody trusts McCain to act any differently.
From the Urban Dictionary "mccainiac".
A chest-thumping, brown-person-hating warmonger who wants an ever expanding American empire.
McCainiacs think that Muslims attack us because we are supposedly free
Are you pro jewish?
neo_con on October 12, 2008 at 11:05 AM
It's pro Israel not Jewish, you bigot. You never miss a chance to inject prejudice or fear into any policy or argument...just like Palin.
Fear mongers of the world unite...as you turn your gaze lovingly toward Russia.
McCain
An adjective that describes someone or something as egocentric, vainglorious, full of bad judgments, hypocritical, whiney and grumpy. "McCain" combines stubborn with ill-temper. Variants: McCainiacal, McCainiac
My neighbor chewed me out in a rather McCainiacal
by Shiningcity May 1, 2008 share this 2 comments
there was some moron professor on Coast-to-Coast radio last night. He said "I look to a future where there will be no government".
What a moron. Can you imagine this world without a government? This is exactly what we don't need. The neocons would have a field day pillaging and looting in their "every man for himself" fashion.
Having no government would be a complete disaster. We might was live in caves then. This "professor" sounds like a real moron. He is probably a professor at liberty "university".
232neo_con on October 12, 2008 at 11:05 AM
What's your point?
Are you here to talk politics?
Or are you here to compare bloggers?
232neo_con on October 12, 2008 at 11:05 AM
What is you purpose in life?
232neo_con on October 12, 2008 at 11:05 AM
Why do you exist?
From the November/December 2008 issue of the AARP Magazine....
89%
The percentage of adults recently in the market for health coverage who didn't find a policy they could afford -- and did without.
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If you ever get sick, McCain's $5,000 health care credit will be worthless. The Republicans are trying to set up a sub prime health care crisis. How much do you want to bet they don't start allowing insurance companies to speculate and create worthless new health care products that sound to good to be true?
They want to gamble with your health over a craps table...make money off your illness and then leaving with their golden parachutes while you lie in an emergency room with bill collectors hounding you to your death.
They did it to Obama's mother and they will do it to you if you buy into this latest GOP scam.
It's pro Israel not Jewish, you bigot. You never miss a chance to inject prejudice or fear into any policy or argument...just like Palin.
Fear mongers of the world unite...as you turn your gaze lovingly toward Russia.
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SandyH on October 12, 2008 at 11:28 AM
isreali or jewish wants the friggin difference?
''McCain
An adjective that describes someone or something as egocentric, vainglorious, full of bad judgments, hypocritical, whiney and grumpy. "McCain" combines stubborn with ill-temper. Variants: McCainiacal, McCainiac ''
You forgot to mention erratic...
Instead of flip-flop...he zig-zags...
Or are you here to compare bloggers?
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Benji on October 12, 2008 at 11:36 AM
Ok, if you also want it technical like ole sandyH, are you pro jewish? or are you pro isreali?
248neo_con on October 12, 2008 at 11:43 AM
Is your purpose on this blog to ask everyone questions?
Finally! It only took three tries to get the comment screen!
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SandyH on October 12, 2008 at 10:27 AM
Looks like we have a bit over an inch of snow, maybe two, right now. The weather dog came in, a little bit ago, with snow on his back, so it's still snowing. (If dog is wet, it's precipitating, if he only stays out only three to five seconds, it's below freezing, if he stays out and goes to sleep under a tree, it's a nice day, if he blows away, head for the cellar!;-D)
Actually according to NOAA it's 25 degrees, with an expected high of 30 today, the snow will taper off tonight, and it will get all the way up to a warm 39 tomorrow.
As for snowmobiles, why would we want one of Todd Palin's pieces of junk! I don't have a snow machine, though a lot of people do. I have a 4WD pickup truck which is a lot more practical! ;-P
Would you buy a used snowmobile off that man? If you would, I have a lovely bridge in Alaska to sell you. LOL!
248neo_con on October 12, 2008 at 11:43 AM
What's the meaning of life?
248neo_con on October 12, 2008 at 11:43 AM
Why do bad things happen to good people?
248neo_con on October 12, 2008 at 11:43 AM
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll tootsie pop?
Will Palin answer on this as well?? Will someone ever ask her to explain it?
No less disconcerting was a still-unexplained passage of Palin’s convention speech: Her use of an unattributed quote praising small-town America (as opposed to, say, Chicago and its community organizers) from Westbrook Pegler, the mid-century Hearst columnist famous for his anti-Semitism, racism and violent rhetorical excess. After an assassin tried to kill F.D.R. at a Florida rally and murdered Chicago’s mayor instead in 1933, Pegler wrote that it was “regrettable that Giuseppe Zangara shot the wrong man.” In the ’60s, Pegler had a wish for Bobby Kennedy: “Some white patriot of the Southern tier will spatter his spoonful of brains in public premises before the snow falls.”
colo_henhouse on October 12, 2008 at 10:45 AM
I think you characterized the problem well.
Just having a coherent, determined leader in charge again would restore a lot of the uncertainty in the markets. There is a crisis in confidence because Bush and the GOP-controlled Congress have been so inept and reckless for close to 15 years no.
Luckily, we had so many great Democratic candidates this time that it's reassuring to voters to know that our side has been trying to come up with strong leadership for the future, as well as programs to restore the middle class and create assets in this country again.
The world markets will react very favorably to an Obama win and Democratic majority. It won't solve anything really but it will give them time to get our Ship of State back on course.
Thanks for sharing your views.
later.
an article dated May 7, 2006, in Britain's Arabic-language Elaph newspaper:
"Russian Foreign Secretary Sergueii Lavrov called for the establishment of a world government, bringing together the United States and Russia. Lavrov's call comes at a time of a chilling of relations between Moscow and [Republican] Washington and amidst signs of a new Cold War...
In an interview granted to the magazine 'Russia in Global Politics,' Lavrov said that bringing together a 'chorus' of major nations into a world government will eliminate the jockeying for power that creates imbalances. Lavrov was certain that 'most countries will welcome such a grouping of leadership.'
He also said that there is no place in Russian politics for animosity toward the U.S., and that the basic goals of American and Russian foreign policy were nearly identical. He made clear that the policies of both countries are to create a more secure and predictable world...
http://www.watchingamerica.com/elaph000001.shtml
Is that unbelievable or what? A Russia still on her knees, and yet asking, as though she were equally influential in world affairs, to form/join a one-world government with the United States. What are the Russians up to? Surely, there is no way for such a partnership to take place with the current Republican-led America. In fact, Vice-President Cheney lashed out at Russian policy recently (May 2006), and Lavrov hit back defensively. Therefore, if Russian leaders announce publicly the desire to form a global government with the United States, I suspect that they are talking about, and talking with, leading Democrats who feel confident of regaining power in America at this time that Bush has tumbled in the polls.
I watched Democrats closely in the previous (2004) election and wasn't surprised so much at their making sky-high complaints against every tiny defect in the Bush Administration as I was at the feverish levels of hatred toward the "Christian right." In fact, Democrat hatred for Bush is clearly the result, not of his Iraqi policies, but of his public confessions and acknowledgements that Jesus Christ is important to him.
Why is Dusty getting so much flak?
His posts are quite similar to emails I get from a vet friend of mine.
My friend was in the Sand Box for Desert Storm breathing the air from the oil well fires. That and an unexpected allergy to an anesthetic that stopped his heart for several minutes during a routine operation on an impacted wisdom tooth, he is now 100% disabled.
He can talk fairly well, but he cannot put his thoughts on paper in any kind of order or remember names of things or ideas. It can be very frustrating to be able to have ideas, and not be able to express them well.
Cut him some slack.
From: The Free Press
OHIO 2008 OPENS WITH A SUBPOENA, A SURGE AND CALLS FOR ELECTION PROTECTION
by Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman
October 1, 2008
Ohio 2008 has opened with a surge of first-time voters and the subpoena of a shadowy Bush electronic operative who may have helped steal the White House, a subpoena that may be followed by one for Karl Rove.
The presidency could again be decided here by how well what’s left of the American democratic process can be protected. So election activists are asking concerned citizens everywhere to become registration volunteers, poll workers and judges, Video the Vote observers and to conduct post-election hearings with legal standing.
In-person balloting began Tuesday, September 30, as new Ohio voters registered and voted simultaneously. Thousands crammed into county facilities throughout the state. Set to continue until October 6, the innovation came by accident in an otherwise repressive piece of legislation foisted on the state by Republican legislators after the theft of the 2004 election.
The GOP has since sued to stop this simultaneous register-and-vote process, but lost 4-3 in the Republican-dominated Ohio Supreme Court. Thousands of new Buckeye voters have now surged into election centers, and may do so through October 6.
Election officials predict as many as a third of Ohio voters---around 2 million---will vote absentee this year. But the GOP now appears to be mailing to Democratic voters fake absentee ballots with bogus return addresses and features that could result in their being discarded. The Republicans are also using caging techniques, such as fake mailings, to eliminate likely Democratic voters from the registration rolls.
Democratic Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner has tried to make paper ballots available at every polling station for those who don’t trust electronic touchscreen machines. But GOP legislators intervened, claiming “cost problems,” and Brunner so far has limited availability to just a quarter of the potential demand. Pro-democracy activists are suing to make them universally available.
While that fight proceeds, ATTORNEYS BOB FITRAKIS AND CLIFF ARNEBECK HAVE SUBPOENAED IT SPECIALIST MICHAEL CONNELL, a shadowy operative who managed the Bush-Cheney 2000 web site. Connell has a checkered history in highly partisan behind-the scenes information manipulation (http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2008/1665).
IN 2004, CONNELL WAS PAID WITH STATE FUNDS BY GOP SECRETARY OF STATE J. KENNETH BLACKWELL TO SHUNT THE OHIO VOTE COUNT TO THE SAME BASEMENT IN CHATTANOOGA, TENNESSEE, WHICH HOUSED THE SERVERS FOR THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE. IN THE WEE MORNING HOURS OF ELECTION DAY, VOTE COUNTS MYSTERIOUSLY SHIFTED FROM JOHN KERRY TO GIVE GEORGE W. BUSH HIS SECOND TERM IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
CONNELL HAS SINCE BEEN FINGERED BY STEPHEN SPOONAMORE, A McCAIN SUPPORTER AND GOP COMPUTER OPERATIVE, WHO HAS CHARGED THAT CONNELL MAY HAVE MANIPULATED THE OHIO 2004 VOTE COUNT. AS A REPUBLICAN INSIDER, SPOONAMORE'S SWORN TESTIMONY IS BEING GIVEN LEGAL CREDENCE BY FEDERAL JUDGE ALGERNON MARBLEY, WHO CERTIFIED THE SUBPOENA AGAINST CONNELL.
Connell and the GOP are certain to continue fighting demands for public testimony. But as the case escalates, it becomes increasingly likely that Connell’s close associate, former White House advisor Karl Rove, could also be subpoenaed as part of the on-going King-Lincoln-Bronzeville civil rights lawsuit.
The final outcome of the case is not likely to be settled until long after the 2008 election. Amidst what is likely to be the largest voter turnout in US history, election protection activists are recruiting and training thousands of democracy advocates to register new voters and to check the registrations of those who may be knocked off the rolls without their knowledge. More than 300,000 Ohio voters were disenfranchised in the run-up to 2004, and at least 170,000 have since been eliminated in Franklin County alone. Many citizens who believe they are registered may not be.
Democracy advocates are also asking citizens throughout the nation to serve as poll workers, poll judges and Video-the-Vote observers, and to organize post-election pubic hearings. With thousands of new voters already surging to the polls, with millions of absentee ballots beginning to pour in, and with an energized electorate expected to overwhelm the precincts on November 4, the difference between what happened in 2004 and who next enters the White House will likely be determined by how well the 2008 electoral process can be protected.
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Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman have co-authored four books on election protection, including AS GOES OHIO, now at www.freepress.org, where they are publisher and senior editor. They are attorney and plaintiff in the King-Lincoln-Bronzeville federal lawsuit.
The original article can be found at:
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2008/3214
The so-called "liberalmedia" have avoided the issue of massive electronic voter fraud like the plague, probably because of the implications to the future of democracy (or what's left of it) in the country, if it turns that this has been going on. However, they have jumped on the ACORN allegations with both feet.
As things stand today, Obama's lead is widening every day, helped in no small measure by voter dissatisfaction over the collapsing economy. So what happens if Obama goes into the election with a huge lead and then somehow "loses" the election? The mainstream media have been laying the groundwork for a convenient explanation: The "hidden racism" factor; i.e., people who told the pollsters they voted for Obama, but who actually voted for McCain because deep down inside they are racists. Sad to say, with their recent TV ads and their demagoguery on the campaign trail, McCain and Palin have brought much of this "hidden" racism to the surface. It's incredibly ugly, and it has gotten so bad that it looks like McCain might be having second thoughts about the wisdom of continuing down this road.
The ACORN allegations also make it possible for the Republiecans to contest election results in states where they lose by small margins. It should be noted that the GOP is playing this card in just about every "purple" state on this year's electoral map.
As things stand right now, McCain/Palin are going down in flames, so it looks like the Republiecans are going to attempt to limit their losses in the House, Senate and state races. The only way to combat their shenanigans is to get labor and other folks out there in such massive numbers that McCain and the entire GOP is buried under an avalanche so huge that any screwy results like what happened in 2000, 2002, 2004 and 2006 will raise a red flag that nobody can ignore any longer.
From: The Hill.com
OBAMA OUTSCORES McCAIN IN VETERANS' GROUP'S REPORT CARD
By Roxana Tiron
Posted: 10/07/08 12:01 AM [ET]
Barack Obama outscored his Republican rival, Vietnam veteran John McCain, in a report card issued by an influential, nonpartisan veterans’ group.
The Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA’s) Action Fund gave the Arizona senator a “D” as part of its congressional report card. Obama received a “B” from the group.
McCain is among three senators who scored a “D.” Only one senator, Jim DeMint (R-S.C.), received an “F.”
McCain — a former Navy officer and prisoner of war — and Obama, who has not served, have made military and veterans’ issues central to their campaign as they try to show voters who would be a stronger advocate for those who have fought in two wars in the last seven years.
Much of IAVA’s scoring revolves around legislation to boost education benefits for Iraq and Afghanistan veterans, known as the “Post 9/11 GI Bill: Fair Education Benefits for Veterans.” The bill was the brainchild of Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) and garnered wide sponsorship throughout the upper chamber.
Because of campaigning, McCain missed six votes on the issues the group rated, out of which four were the votes regarding the GI Bill.
The maximum of points for an “A+” in the Senate is 11. McCain received a total of three. IAVA gave two points to those who co-sponsored the GI Bill — its main priority for 2008.
McCain did not sponsor that bill, but sponsored a competing bill with Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Richard Burr (R-N.C). One major aspect of the McCain-sponsored bill was the ability for veterans to transfer educational credits to their spouses and children. Ultimately, the transferability option was included in Webb’s GI overhaul bill. As a result, McCain issued strong support for the bill, but was not present at the final vote.
IAVA did not credit McCain for the bill he sponsored with Graham and Burr because the group opposed it and threw its full support behind Webb’s bill.
“Sen. McCain has been endorsed by 21 past National Commanders of the American Legion, the largest veterans’ organization in America, and the Veterans of Foreign Wars, the largest organization of combat veterans in America,” said Lang Sias, national veterans director on McCain’s campaign. “Sen. McCain is proud of having fought hard to ensure that an extremely high priority for career service members — the freedom to transfer their education benefits to their spouse or their children — was included in the final version of the GI Bill. John McCain made the GI Bill better for military families and veterans.”
Despite being a co-sponsor of the GI Bill, Obama did not score a particularly high mark, but well above McCain. IAVA gave Obama a “B,” or a total of seven points. Obama, who like McCain has been on the campaign trail, missed four votes on issues the group rated. One of those votes was a procedural vote regarding the veterans’ education bill. Obama was present for the other three votes regarding the bill, including final passage.
Obama’s running mate, Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.), also scored a “B.” He missed three votes that coincided with campaigning during the primaries, when Biden himself was a presidential candidate.
“Sen. Obama has a long record of supporting our veterans and honoring the sacred trust with our veterans and military families. The fact that IAVA has recognized his unending support is a great tribute,” said Obama national security spokeswoman Wendy Morigi. “If he is fortunate enough to be elected in November, veterans can rest assured knowing that he will fight for them every day as president.”
“We think attendance is important,” said Paul Rieckhoff, IAVA executive director of the scoring. “Lawmakers have to put the money where their mouth is. You can’t support the troops if you do not vote on the key issues.”
IAVA is officially releasing its congressional report card Tuesday, the same day Obama and McCain are going into another presidential debate. Rieckhoff said the release was planned that way to make veterans’ issues part of Tuesday’s debate, because none of the candidates approached that topic in detail.
“We hope that it lets them know that people are watching and that veterans are watching,” he said in an interview. “Whoever the president is, they have a huge challenge ahead with veterans’ issues. These guys have a chance to turn the page.”
In the Senate scoring, IAVA focused on nine legislative actions: boosting of funding for veterans’ healthcare in 2007 and 2008; more money for Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles, known as MRAPs, for troops fighting in Iraq; expanded veterans’ benefits in 2007; 2008 legislation dealing with adaptive housing for disabled veterans, disability claims processing and education benefits for apprenticeships and on-the-job training; stopping the McCain-sponsored competing GI bill; and three votes on the Webb-sponsored GI Bill.
Among the Senate’s co-sponsors of the education benefits overhaul are several who received an “A+” for their support of veterans. Those members not only co-sponsored the landmark education bill, but also voted in favor of all the other legislation on IAVA’s agenda. Among those who received an “A+” are: Webb, Susan Collins (R-Maine), who is facing a tough reelection campaign, Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), Harry Reid (D-Nev.), the Senate majority leader, Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), Daniel Akaka (D-Hawaii) and Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.).
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), a former candidate for president, scored an “A.” So did retiring Sens. John Warner (R-Va.), who was pivotal in negotiations on the GI Bill, and Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.), an original co-sponsor of the bill, as well as Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), Kit Bond (R-Mo.) and Gordon Smith (R-Ore.).
In the House, 249 lawmakers received an “A” or “A+” for voting on 13 bills relating to veterans issues. Many of the freshman and vulnerable Democrats have received an “A+.” Democrats, and particularly the freshmen, have made it a key point to prove that their party is strong on national security. Among those vulnerables receiving an A+ are Reps. Chris Carney (D-Pa.), Patrick Murphy (D-Pa.), Paul Kanjorski (D-Pa.), Carol Shea-Porter (D-N.H.) and Nancy Boyda (D-Kan.). Another Democratic vulnerable, Rep. Nick Lampson (Texas), received a “B.”
Several vulnerable Republican members earned top grades, but many of them have also scored “B’s.” Among them, Reps. Robin Hayes (N.C.), Christopher Shays (Conn.), Randy Kuhl (N.Y.) and Ric Keller (Fla.) stand out with an “A.” Reps. Don Young (R-Alaska) and Marilyn Musgrave (R-Colo.) received a “B,” as did Reps. James Walsh (R-N.Y.) and Steve Chabot (R-Ohio).
Reps. John Campbell (R-Calif.), Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.), John Duncan Jr. (R-Tenn.) and Chris Cannon (R-Utah) scored a “D.” Rep Ron Paul (R-Texas) scored the only “F.”
IAVA has about 105,000 members and makes no political contributions or endorsements.
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chassie on October 12, 2008 at 12:50 PM
The Repubs tried it in Montana and had to back off. I guess we're not as red a state as they are wanting everybody to think. They sure didn't win any friends over the voter registration crap that they tried to pull.
the so-called christian right hates America and Americans and wants to stuff their stupid interpretation of religion down everyone's throat. They are no better than Al-Quaida or the Taliban and much more dangerous.
I am sick of their bullshit Saying God is mad at New Orleans because of gays and just the other day saying that they are praying to God that Obama loses.
The chrisitian right are illiterate, ignorant, fascist pigs and psychopaths. They are a losing combination.
Real Americans see the wacks showing up for the Palin/McShame rally's and don't want to see themselves in that group. The old bag with the unbrushed hair that said, she did some reading and that Obama is an Arab is one example.
God what a room full of misfits. Easily fooled, misinformed, hate filled losers.
If I were McCain, I'd save the country boatloads of money and just concede now.
Also, today a Toledo, OH paper and a Dayton, OH paper endorse barack with a wonderful write up of him.
Can you say, LANDSLIDE
I think we should all attach brooms to the grills of our rides with bungie cords. Cause it's going to be a SWEEP!
President Obama
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Loser McCain
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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BUSH
CHENEY
RICE
RUMSFELD
ROVE
BONER
GINGRICH
MUKASEY
GONEZALES
HAGUE-TRIAL-HANG
Can we say that mcgeezer will retire in December?
can we say that palin will be recalled in December?
can we say mcgeezer's wife doesn't like losers and will divorce him leaving him penniless?
can we say palin will try to secede Alaska from the Union before she is recalled?
bush, cheney, mccain and palin are not good enough to shine Castro's and Chavez's boots.
bush, cheney, mccain and palin's imperialistic and militaristic ambitions are doomed to failure just like the Third Reich.
How are we going to get that Sulphur smell out of the White House? I guess we could check with Heloise.
We might have to tear it down and start over.
Meanwhile, bush and cheney will be in Paraguay or Dubai with our money living it up and laughing at how stupid that the ignorant religious freaks are too stupid to realize they have been had.
The New York Times
October 10, 2008
Letter To The Editor
PROSECUTING WEATHERMEN
To the Editor:
Re “Politics of Attack” (editorial, Oct. 8) and “Obama and ’60s Bomber: A Look Into Crossed Paths” (front page, Oct. 4):
As the lead federal prosecutor of the Weathermen in the 1970s (I was then chief of the criminal division in the Eastern District of Michigan and took over the Weathermen prosecution in 1972), I am amazed and outraged that Senator Barack Obama is being linked to William Ayers’s terrorist activities 40 years ago when Mr. Obama was, as he has noted, just a child.
Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen.
Because Senator Obama recently served on a board of a charitable organization with Mr. Ayers cannot possibly link the senator to acts perpetrated by Mr. Ayers so many years ago.
I do take issue with the statement in your news article that the Weathermen indictment was dismissed because of “prosecutorial misconduct.” It was dismissed because of illegal activities, including wiretaps, break-ins and mail interceptions, initiated by John N. Mitchell, attorney general at that time, and W. Mark Felt, an F.B.I. assistant director.
William C. Ibershof
NOW I MUST ASK, WHERE IN THE HELL IS THE SO CALLED LIBERAL MEDIA AT?????
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081012/OPINION02/810120311/-1/OPINION
Here is the Toledo Blade Today. Read em' and weep commies.
NorthHartford* on October 12, 2008 at 12:58 PM
neo_con on October 12, 2008 at 12:25 PM
Oh, it's so sad. You've developed Acorn on your big toe.
You can't accept the fact that people need real economic opportunities to better themselves. Instead you’d rather deal with the crisis that inevitably erupts when you neglect the underlying problem of poverty.
And now you are concerned with Russia after Bush looked into Putin's eyes eight years ago and fell in love with Communism?
Spunky has already formed the United States of North America and dismantled the Bill of Rights. Now he's nationalizing our banking system and socializing our economy before the next president can stop him. He's authorized domestic spying and set aside a military brigade on our shores ready to enforce it all if anyone dares to question him.
Then we have Palin who is obsessed with the golden shores across the Bearing Straits in Russia. Her political muse Joe Vogler of the Alaskan Independence Party wanted Alaska to branch out with new political alliances with its neighbors separate from the United States. She sounds pretty smitten with the Russians herself.
It's about time you Republicans anticipated a problem before it blew up in you faces. Bush and Palin are globalists not Americans. They aren't concerned with what happens to the United States economy. They only want to protect oil interests around the globe.
Exporting our capital assets to places like Communist China was a really stupid Republican idea. I'm glad you finally realize your GOP leadership has issues. And McCain is challenged in more ways than most.
He'll be fighting the Vietnam War all over again and shooting for another military blunder in Iran whether they have a bomb or not. WMD issues? You betcha.
I'd consult with Dr. Dean about that troubling A corn problem. He has many ready solutions and won't even charge you for a house call.
What a concise statement.
From the Dayton Daily News.
"The nation faces a choice that looks more and more like a choice between the future and the past. It has never been one to shrink from the future."
It was dismissed because of illegal activities, including wiretaps, break-ins and mail interceptions, initiated by John N. Mitchell, attorney general at that time...
Chassie,
The corrupt Nixon administration keeps coming back to bite the GOP in the ass.
It's so ironic that G. Gordon Liddy, the mastermind of the Watergate break in and convicted felon, is such a favorite among John McCain's "dear friends." I wonder if..."he has become a responsible citizen."
With eight years of unchecked GOP power in Washington you have to question whether the old Watergate bugler hasn't been up to his old tricks. Once we get back control and start taking inventory of the White House pantry, we just might find out.
NorthHartford* on October 12, 2008 at 01:47 PM
Obama is running for President of the Untied States. Try living in the present...even though the truth of the present situation might be too much for you to handle.
You Republicans have adopted socialism in the present economic crisis to solve your mismanagement. You killed capitalism with your incompetence.
Admit it.
Johne on October 12, 2008 at 02:12 PM
Johne,
A choice between competence and continued failure? Being smart rather than giving into stupidity? Raising the bar instead of continuing to wallow in the mud? Stability versus greed and corruption? Health care versus deregulating that system, too?
It was truly a momentous discussion today on "ABC Sunday Morning." You had George Will and Cookie Roberts preaching to the Democrats on the panel about how a bi-partisan Obama Cabinet could lead this country back to solvency and sanity. They even offered their preferred picks for various posts.
A McCain presidency was dismissed by these influential Republican pundits as an alternative...too risky to contemplate. I found a similar sentiment among those I canvassed in an upper middle class neighborhood yesterday.
McCain is a leaper in his own Party. Even Palin's rabid adoring fans don't want to hear him lecture them any longer. He's lost his credibility and integrity for stooping too low...even among those who love stooping too low.
I wonder who it was who told McCain he had to speak up at that rally yesterday? Nancy Reagan or Joe Lieberman? His mother? He's been acting like Julius Caesar lately, one wonders if he listens to anyone including God at this point.
bbl.
Someone's preoccupation with graveyards makes one think they may have been employed as a grave robber at one time.
Good afternoon, ALL!
Newsjunkie, the St.Louis Post-Dispatch also endorsed Obama, as well as the Wisconsin State Journal. (Among others.)
UPDATE: 9 Top Newspapers Endorse Obama Today
E&P is charting every endorsement. So far Obama leads by a 19-9 margin with at least 300 to go. Send us any pick you see, to: gmitchell@editorandpublisher.com
One for the road...
Clintons Campaigning for Obama-Biden in Pa.
By BETH FOUHY Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON October 12, 2008 (AP)
When Bill and Hillary Clinton take the stage Sunday at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania, it will be the launch of an active campaign for their former nemesis Barack Obama in the home stretch of the 2008 presidential race...
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., waves after a campaign rally in support of Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., Friday, Oct. 10, 2008 outside the Capitol in Little Rock, Ark., as retired Gen. Wesley Clark, back left, and Sen. Vic Synder, D-Ark., back right, look on. (AP Photo/Mike Wintroath)
...The New York senator and the former president will appear with Obama's running mate, Joe Biden, at a rally Sunday in Scranton, a working class town that has assumed something of an outsize role in the presidential race.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=6014175
I love this photo. What a wonderful role model for young people across this country do Senator Clinton and General Wesley Clark represent.
Let's lobby to get them to appear together in those Counties in Ohio that Essie pointed out yesterday afternoon.
We are so blessed to have so many competent, hard working, and smart people joining Obama to lead this countty back to its rightful place in the world. He will have their close counsel and cooperation in getting our military strength and middle class lifestyle back on their feet.
later.
mammalicious on October 12, 2008 at 11:56 AM
Thanks for the info. This was a new one for me. Palin seems to know all the usual domestic terrorists by heart and can even quote them at will.
NorthHartford* on October 12, 2008 at 04:46 PM
NorthFart, proving every day what it means to be a stupid republican dupe.
Does someone pay you to post your idiotic lies? Or do you just do it because you don't know what your talking about?
NorthHartford* on October 12, 2008 at 05:27 PM
NorthFart, you stupid fool. Thanks for posting the link to your right-wing nut-job web site. What a bunch of dufus'. Do you post on that site? I'm guessing you would seem normal compared to them. At this site, you seem like an ignorant fool only able to regurgitate information fed to you from other right wing hacks. Oh, as a matter of fact, it looks like thats what you've done in this case.
Look dupe, the claim that this financial crisis was solely caused by Freddie and Fannie is a gross oversimplification. And where does the letter indicate it was written by McLame. We know McLame jumped on that bandwagon late. Some of those senators had been pushing for that for years before Johnny come lately signed on. You know, those years when McLame was pushing for more DEREGULATION. You really need to start thinking for yourself (if possible) and you really need to stop counting on this sort of right-wing-nut-job web sites for your "facts"
Poor stupid little republican dupe.
Dusty,
I see the stupidity trio has jumped on the site again when they think nobody is watching. Do you know which one of these dopes is Dufus Dan?
I encourage everyone to go to NorthFarts right-wing-nut web site for a few good laughs. You can get emails from Ann Coulter. YOu can get Newt Gingrich's Weekly email newsletter. You can read lots of goof-ball articles like:
"ECON 101 which states that the current meltdown is the result of Washington's interference in free markets.
OR
"A Deck Full of Race Card" which states that McCain has been the target of the lefts use of race as a weapon to cut off debate.
The site is a complete joke. Only dupes and fools like NorthFart actually believe that crap.
But it is funny to read.
NorthHartford* on October 12, 2008 at 05:24 PM
The missing letter? Magically reconstructed digitally for the trolls.
If this issue was so important to the GOP, why didn't the Republican-controlled Congress get it out of committee? It died before it ever got off the ground. (That pretty much sounds like everything else McCain has taken credit for in the last two weeks.)
Get your story straight. Either McCain spearheaded an effort to change accounting rules or he called for deregulation. Or maybe he didn't do either?
Your side's reliance on gimmicks and publicity stunts doesn't impress anybody. McCain and the GOP didn't get the job done. Big commitment; great results.
Sally-* on October 12, 2008 at 06:35 PM
You really should see Gore's film. It predicted these sorts of cool downs in Europe. The key to all the havoc was the melting Artic icecaps between Greenland and the United States. Scientists said the warm gulf steams that protect England and Western Europe would change with the addition of all that cold water melting.
But then you don't really care. It's your life's work. Nevermind.
Sally-* on October 12, 2008 at 06:46 PM
Why didn't they bring it up for a vote on principle? You conservatives like to say you do that when usually you don't even bother...it makes a good sound bite. All talk; no action.
So it wasn't that important? And McCain didn't spearhead the effort?
Sandy,
It's just another ploy by the republicans. They are trying to pretend McLame is a leader. He's not a leader, he's a Maverick. Don't they listen to Sarah? Mavericks don't lead, they go their own way. And hardly anyone follows them. If more people followed them, they would be leaders, not mavericks.
Geeez. The republican dupes should read your own party's press releases.
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