Stunning Admission by McCain Camp on Healthcare Plan
Posted by Matt Ortega on October 28, 2008 at 01:36 PM
John McCain's healthcare plan will "blow up" the employer-based system and healthcare experts are not so hot on that idea.
Experts, however, fear that eliminating the tax advantage of employer-based coverage would prompt younger, healthier workers to leave their office plans. If that happened, costs for the remaining workers could skyrocket. Companies may drop coverage altogether.
But the McCain campaign fought back that idea with an even stranger defense:
Younger, healthier workers likely wouldn't abandon their company-sponsored plans, said Douglas Holtz-Eakin, McCain's senior economic policy adviser.
"Why would they leave?" said Holtz-Eakin. "What they are getting from their employer is way better than what they could get with the credit."
Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton on this stunning admission:
“This morning, the McCain campaign’s top economic policy advisor unleashed an October Surprise of straight talk when he finally admitted that the health insurance people currently get from their employer is ‘way better’ than the health care they would get if John McCain becomes President. Independent studies have shown that under John McCain’s health care plan, at least 20 million Americans will lose the insurance they rely on and be forced to buy health care coverage on the individual market that costs more than $12,000 with a tax credit of just $5,000. Senator McCain has been trying to cover this up for months, but his advisor’s brutal honesty today is certainly better late than never, and it should give every American pause about electing a candidate who has proposed such radical and dangerous changes to our health care system,” said Obama-Biden Spokesman Bill Burton.
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Who are these Republicans? Anarchists?
They want to destroy not build or create anything in this country. From our military strength to the economic markets and banking system to Social Security....they want to slash and burn.
What's wrong with them? Do they enjoy chaos? Do they think that anything they can make the middle class bear is worth it so they can make a profit off the confusion?
There is are some real moral and ethical issues here that need to be addressed by Americans. Why would any political party suggest that those who are the most vulnerable (poor, sick, children) be victimized and everyone else in the middle class put at risk?
The GOP doesn't even care if people know that they want to destroy the American Dream. The are wantonly suggesting that promoting the Common Good is old fashioned just like the protections detailed in the Bill of Rights? They want Everyman for Themselves as the new world order...in this country, too.
Who are these Republicans. They are are multinational business interests and see their own countrymen as just human resources that can be used and tossed aside.
I knew when they started using that term "human resources" that they didn't respect human dignity or potential...only profit.
Heath care is NOT a "right".
It is hard to pursue happiness when I cannot breathe without an asthma inhaler.
to those that sya health care is not a right I say this is the only developed nation that treats health care and medicin as a for profit industry. All the other industrailized nations do not have facelss halth insuarnce emplyees making decisions for the apitient but it is between the doctors and the patient.
This conceptual expression, if given the number impressions of some competing ideas, will literally change the election landscape in these last few days from a mere probability, in words of ‘Joe the Plumber’ to a “lead pipe cinch.” Do your part to get it out there. Sincerely, Chuck Bamford
SIMPLE TAX ARITHMETIC FOR ALL VOTERS
McCain’s plan
If you are in business and the demand for your product is down from prior years and your taxes are reduced by $5000.00 do you go out and hire more workers? Answer: Of course not! It’s insane to hire more workers unless demand for your products increases by a decent amount. No matter how much taxes are reduced a business does not go out and hire until there is an increase in demand for their product. This plan does nothing for America. No businessperson recommends doing this.
Obama’s plan
If all of your prospective customers get a $5000.00 raise in their income for whatever reason is it possible you would be able to sell more of your product? Answer: Of course it would be possible! And if you sold more and needed more hands to produce and sell your product would it be logical to go out and hire more workers? You’d be insane if you didn’t hire more people. This is the simple plan that will bring America out of this economic morass. Every businessperson wants more potential buyers with funds available to buy their product.
Be honest with yourself. If you’re a republican or a democrat, only the last plan has any merit at all. The first plan will do absolutely nothing except increase the profit for all businesses, big or small. There is nothing wrong with increased profits, but if product sales do not increase an employer will not ever hire more people. It’s very simple arithmetic that all members of our society understands.
Does it not matter to anyone in this country that the Gov. gets their health care for FREE, or rather should I say at the cost of us the middle man. As a former Viet Nam Vet I am still fighting with the Gov. to pay for my health care for everything that has taken my life from me due to that war. Agent Orange has Already Killed me, I am just waiting for the day. As millions of others fight to get the health care that they need all other countries take care of their people and military, our country just throws you back into the mix and says "hey we will raise the taxes again and that way we can take that money and spend it on something other then what we tax you for."
If you or I can not afford our home payment, what happens, we lose our home. If the Gov. can not afford to pay the bills what happens, Easy they just take more money from you and in in the form of more taxes. When are you people going to open your eyes to the corruption.
This is the same plan that Henry Ford came up with 90 years ago when he raised the wages of his auto workers so they could all be able to buy Model Ts. In doing so he created the boom in Detroit because the other auto makers were forced to raise their wages in order to keep their workers from leaving. If workers are to broke to buy anything, you lose your customers, bottom line. Wages are the REAL rising tide that floats all boats, not the other way around. It is sustainable capitalism as opposed to the parasitical capitalism practiced by the Republicans and their Big Business rich and greedy.
I simply cannot understand why the wealthiest, most technologically advanced nation on Earth cannot provide a free comprehensive health care system for it's citizens, paid for through taxation. PLEASE don't tell me that it can't be done or that you can't afford it! Other nations in the world have done it for years. I live in New Zealand, we have it! And please don't say that it is not a "right." It is just as much a right as the right to be protected by the nation's defence system from attack, or the right to feel secure using the services of the police and fire brigades. And please don't tell me that you can't afford it! You can afford to send spacecraft to Mars, so you can afford to have a good health system for the citizens of your great country!
my name is kim mccullar.and i am appalled at what mr mccain wants.why do people not wake up and smell the coffee?i am an obama supporter and always will be.mccain is a serious dunkoof.we need healthcare that is affordable for everyone.like me.i am looking for work and have had insurance that costed me an arm and a leg.i was raised in a military family.and even i know that war is stupid. why is it that people can not sit down and talk to each other instead of at each other.that makes me very sad.please for the love of god stop this war now.it is time for peace.all we are saying is give peace a chance.lets work together for the common good of all.i love this country but i despise what is happening with all this useless killing.STOP IT NOW.kim mccullar
I cannot understand the inane comment that Govt funded health-care is not a "right." It is just as much a right as the right to be protected by the Defense Dept, the right to feel secure with a police force, the right to be provided with a judicial system. And all those rights are funded through taxes, so why not a health-care system? The USA is the laughing stock of so many other nations which have such systems in place for their citizens.
Health care may be a right in your value system (like it is to many Europeans and quite a few of the people here), but health care is not a right enumerated in the constitution. It does enumerate that the federal government is to provide for the common defense and it does enumerate a judicial system and the general bounds for how it should be operated. Regardless of whether or not another country laughs (a terrible reason for US citizens to base our values on), this is the system as enumerated in our constitution and we, not a group of Europeans, are the sole decision makers on if we want to change it.
whether it is affordable or not is purely a question of how we want to tax the wealthy(because, at the end of the day, it is the wealthy who support the most government programs) and whether or not we want to lose our medical research industry; in fact, the world needs to decide if it wants to lose it because the profit margins just aren't there for new products in all those countries that laugh at us.
The real question then, is how much medical care is enough/is the desired amount for the government to subsidize? The government already subsidizes health care by making it tax deductable if it is through employers. I personally would like to see all these deductions removed and overall tax rates dropped for people (concurrent with how much the credit is worth). This isn't "reducing" the benefit, rather it is letting everyone then make a fair decision as to whether or not they would like the benefit or would rather use the money for something, anything, else.
While I support Obama in a lot of things, I think part of having a fair tax code is making it one where everyone gets to make their own decisions. He does a good job of this by removing the effective tax break we give capital gains against other forms of income. I'm glad he doesn't support the single payer system because I don't want to be part of one.
I want coverage limited to what I need and I want everyone else to have that choice as well. I like the middle ground he offers and it forces the congress to either pay up for the very subsidized coverage they get or figure out a more equitable system for government employees to receive.
Health care may be a right in your value system (like it is to many Europeans and quite a few of the people here), but health care is not a right enumerated in the constitution. It does enumerate that the federal government is to provide for the common defense and it does enumerate a judicial system and the general bounds for how it should be operated. Regardless of whether or not another country laughs (a terrible reason for US citizens to base our values on), this is the system as enumerated in our constitution and we, not a group of Europeans, are the sole decision makers on if we want to change it.
whether it is affordable or not is purely a question of how we want to tax the wealthy(because, at the end of the day, it is the wealthy who support the most government programs) and whether or not we want to lose our medical research industry; in fact, the world needs to decide if it wants to lose it because the profit margins just aren't there for new products in all those countries that laugh at us.
The real question then, is how much medical care is enough/is the desired amount for the government to subsidize? The government already subsidizes health care by making it tax deductable if it is through employers. I personally would like to see all these deductions removed and overall tax rates dropped for people (concurrent with how much the credit is worth). This isn't "reducing" the benefit, rather it is letting everyone then make a fair decision as to whether or not they would like the benefit or would rather use the money for something, anything, else.
While I support Obama in a lot of things, I think part of having a fair tax code is making it one where everyone gets to make their own decisions. He does a good job of this by removing the effective tax break we give capital gains against other forms of income. I'm glad he doesn't support the single payer system because I don't want to be part of one.
I want coverage limited to what I need and I want everyone else to have that choice as well. I like the middle ground he offers and it forces the congress to either pay up for the very subsidized coverage they get or figure out a more equitable system for government employees to receive.
I would think that the person who says health care is not a right is more than likely not poor and old, not poor with a sick child nor even middle class with cancer. Do you really think that you can pursue happiness when you are going broke trying to pay medical bills . The poor are not poor by choice they are not poor because they like to be poor , it was their lot in life and life is not always fair . You should remember the old saying " there but by the grace of God go I "
Our healthcare system needs to be reformed. It is worthless. Patients and doctors, not insurance companies should decide on what kind of care a patient receives. I support a single payer health care system. It provides preventitve care, does not limit the amount of care you receive, and streamlines health care. a good book to read is called "critical care" big buisness should not be involved in healthcare and only until recently, it was not. It is a cruel system that needs to be abolished. My cousin is dying from liver failure right now because she cannot get insurance. she is middle-classed but cannot afford the care and the insurance companies won't accept her. So she is going to die a slow and painful death with no healthcare in this "great nation" WE SHOULD BE ASHAMED!!
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