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Afternoon Open Thread

Posted by Matt Ortega on November 21, 2008 at 01:44 PM

Chat away...

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Conservatives don't "get" irony...or hypocrisy, for that matter.

321BlueinIdaho on November 21, 2008 at 01:22 PM


Blue, It is such a way of life to them, they think it is normal to pretend to care about a turkey's life, then stand and smell the stench and watch the slaughter of them! Probably the very one she was petting and pardoning inside, came out on a belt and was being killed before our eyes !


Barbi, I know. All that is needed to be said is "WE WON, YOU LOST, BE A MAN ABOUT IT AND SUCK IT UP!!!"


(OOOPS, I forgot who we are talking to. REAL men would not be here)


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PamB on November 21, 2008 at 02:09 PM

Trolls remind me of marching in the band in the hometown rodeo parade.
They would put the bands between the horse units. Horse units had a certain amount of fall out in the form of horse manure.
If you marched through the poop you stirred up the stink, and it got all over you shoes. You learned to step around the poop.
I try to use that same philosophy on trolls. I guess you can equate them with a similar elephant fallout, which is generally piled higher and deeper.

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Butte on November 21, 2008 at 02:15 PM

PamB, really SMART men wouldn't be trolling here, either!

5Barbi on November 21, 2008 at 02:11 PM


You noticed that too, Barbi? Each one just a little less intelligent than the next. :)

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PamB on November 21, 2008 at 02:22 PM

Barbi, if not for anonymity, they would not DARE to show how stupid they are for fear their wives (those that have wives), their children , neighborgs, bosses would see how truly ugly there insides are.


shhhh, don't tell them how much they helped the Dems! The more they insulted our candidates and our party, the deeper I dug to help win this thing. They reminded me what this country would be like with another 4 years of the same.

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PamB on November 21, 2008 at 02:40 PM

He's too busy getting on Danny's weenie.

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GregL on November 21, 2008 at 03:11 PM

SNL should be having an absolute heydey with that latest Palin video. I can imagine Tina Fey yucking it up to reporters while all manner of lifeforms are executed behind her.

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BlueinIdaho on November 21, 2008 at 03:29 PM

duhhh, Stevie, see my message to the German. IT IS THE HYPOCRISY! Inside the building, saying she is merciful and will spare the turkey, then outside watching them being killed. My father killed many a chicken back in my day for sunday dinner. Doesn't faze me. But he never pretended ahead of time that he wouldn't dream of killing one!
GOT IT????

And believe me , if the Alaskans can stand Palin, Stevens and Young, they can stand a few Other Turkeys , even those being killed!

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PamB on November 21, 2008 at 03:34 PM

Palin-----the gift that keeps on and on and on giving ! Thank you

Ethics Complaint Filed Against Palin Over Fox News Interview


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/19/ethics-complaint-filed-ag_n_144873.html

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PamB on November 21, 2008 at 03:40 PM

Here is a cool idea. An online food bank to help feed the victims of Chimpy's trickling down on people.

YES WE CANS.

You can donate specific amounts and they will buy case lots of whatever you choose and you can also designate which food bank you want to support from a list of around 200.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 21, 2008 at 03:42 PM

I guess all you Christmas stealers are at it again. Ramping up the efforts to steal the holiday and not permit anyone to say Merry Christmas.

I got a chain mail today about people stealing Christmas. Started getting them before Halloween. I guess it's all they have left now.

Fess up. Which of you liberals is trying to steal Christmas from the AFA again this year?

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madfloridian on November 21, 2008 at 03:46 PM

uh oh, is this HIS Mucacca moment?????

Chambliss Knocks Over Camera When Asked About Lawsuit


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/21/chambliss-knocks-over-cam_n_145507.html

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PamB on November 21, 2008 at 03:50 PM

PamB on November 21, 2008 at 03:50 PM

That is good news. It appears that chambliss is the typical repug criminal.

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Johne on November 21, 2008 at 04:52 PM

it was just reported on CNN radio news that Barack Obama is picking a member of the Federal Reserve in New York to be Treasury Secretary. His last name is Geithner. Just before the market closed the stock market was about 10 points ahead. When it closed after the announcment, the Dow was up 500 points. I think they like this Geithner.

Also, Richardson may be on tap for Commerce. Bill has brought many businesses into New Mexico during his six years as governor.

Things are looking up.

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Johne on November 21, 2008 at 05:05 PM

I just heard on CNN news that there will be 5,000,000 people at the inauguration in january.

People are driving 200 miles to West Virginia to find a room. Lots of people are camping out in tents at the local campgrounds. It's crazy.

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Johne on November 21, 2008 at 05:15 PM

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Cheney will feel left out.

Iraqi Shiites burn Bush effigy in anti-US protest

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Johne on November 21, 2008 at 05:20 PM

Afternoon all good Dems.
Kkkarl is a criminal - pure and simple. He is an admitted Watergate conspirator and when you look at the negative political climate that he played a huge role in creating, I believe that he deserves a large percentage of the blame for what is happening right now. He is scum that belongs on trial and when convicted, executed. He is one of the very worst things to happen to this country (thanks is great part to pappy bush and the dub)!

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marymac_memphis on November 21, 2008 at 05:20 PM

I guess all you Christmas stealers are at it again. Ramping up the efforts to steal the holiday and not permit anyone to say Merry Christmas.

Holy crap, has the war on the war on Christmas started already??! I was just oiling up the turkey giblet firing catapult to try to do my part in the war on the war on thanksgiving...and there are all these rotting pumpkins lying about from the siege of halloween...

h/t to Gregg

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BlueinIdaho on November 21, 2008 at 05:27 PM

This what the raygunites have done to America culminating in the worst imperialist "president" ever.


"It has become a rather common yearly and some times even monthly occurrence that the imperial elites of America gallop up on their white horses to read the riot act to the rest of the world, some times even to the EU, on how to be a republic.

But does this corruption stop the hypocrites from lecturing the world? Of course not. It is a pity for them that, at least in Europe and East Asia, the level of literacy is much higher than the US' 65% and the people there see that the Imperial preaching is nothing but hypocritical nonsense. However, at home, this plays into the self righteous ignorance of the masses.

One additional, of many possible, examples. While DC's favorite target is the "autocratic" Russian state, let us examine the passage of a Russian bill. The bill, which stands alone, must be read twice to a quorum of the Duma , from the first word to the last word. This by its nature causes bills to be short and to the point, with clear laws and they stand or fall on their own merit. A proper system if ever one could be invented.

This is of course rather humerus for as far as republics go, the US is definitely a failed one. Disregarding the fact that the US constitution is routinely ignored, the power politics of the past 130 years have done everything in their power to make sure there are enough stumbling blocks and hurdles that only their chosen candidates can muster the needed support to run for any high office.

An example of this is Patriot Act, which in essence created the American KGB. This was a bill of 10,000+ pages, something that would break even Dostoevsky . What percentage of the congressmen read the whole bill before signing? Zero...that is right, zero read any significant portion...none, but vote on it they did. Who even knows all the little surprises hidden in those 10,000+ pages?

And this is the model of a democratic republic?

Stanislav Mishin

Sanctimonious hypocritical preaching by the imperials

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Johne on November 21, 2008 at 05:31 PM

Evening all good dems!

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marymac_memphis on November 21, 2008 at 05:32 PM

This is interesting. Could this explain bush's behavior?

Adolf Hitler was mentally unbalanced because he had only one testicle

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Johne on November 21, 2008 at 05:34 PM

In light of reports that the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) is preparing to enact a rule that would undermine critical health care services for women and families, Senators Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) and Patty Murray (D-WA) today introduced legislation that would prevent the HHS rule from going into effect. The proposed HHS rule would require any health care entity that receives federal financing to certify in writing that none of its employees are required to assist in any way with medical services they find objectionable. The proposed bill would keep HHS from moving forward with this rule.

"In the final days of his administration, the President is again putting ideology first and attempting to roll back health care protections for women and families. The fact that the EEOC was never consulted in the drafting of this rule further illustrates that this is purely a political ploy. This HHS rule will threaten patients' rights, stand in the way of health care professionals, and restrict access to critical health care services for those who need them most.

http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/hillary-clinton-and-patty-murray-introd

This is why Clinton should be HHS secretary and not SOS, imo.

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BlueinIdaho on November 21, 2008 at 05:36 PM

Clown: I have not yet read that one. Based on your recommendation, I'll try to get it from the library here before Thanksgiving. It sounds like a 'fun read'!

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marymac_memphis on November 21, 2008 at 05:37 PM

Clinton should be HHS secretary and not SOS, imo.

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BlueinIdaho on November 21, 2008 at 05:36 PM

Blue:
IMHO, she would do a much better job than Reid and have more influence as Sen. Majority Leader.
She would be great as HHS - without a doubt. (What was it she said - 'the scars to prove it!) Obviously - she's going to be in the cabinet rather than stay in the Senate but I would really love to see her as majority leader.

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marymac_memphis on November 21, 2008 at 05:40 PM
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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 21, 2008 at 05:55 PM

I've never figured out what the Repugs were talking about in their war on "The Holidays". When I was a kid, back in the ever so uptight '50s, "the holidays" was pretty much the time between Thanksgiving and New Year's Day, and nobody though anyone was trying to do away with anything.
They just discovered the "Holiday Seson"? Does this mean that the right wingnuts are trying to do away with Thanksgiving and New Year's? ;-D

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Butte on November 21, 2008 at 06:28 PM

Butte on November 21, 2008 at 06:28 PM

Another irony lost on the conservatives is their indignation over the use of "Holidays" which stems from the term Holy-days...

But, otoh, thank God they cried their false indignation because it was just one of the ways they showed the American people who NOT to vote for.

have a great weekend Dems!

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BlueinIdaho on November 21, 2008 at 06:51 PM

Barbi: Can we survive 59 more days? Can the GOPPERs make it any more challenging for President Obama?
I heard a report today about the SOFA agreement putting control of the U.S. Military Forces in Iraq under Iraq control? If that is the case, I think that the members of the military have a case for 'justifyable (? Spelling) AWOL.' They should just leave - just get up and leave. I don't think anyone would blame them. They swore an oath to protect and defend the U.S.A. not an oath to answer to those who were the enemy!

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marymac_memphis on November 21, 2008 at 06:52 PM

Good evening fellow Democrats!

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peaceman on November 21, 2008 at 06:53 PM

60Sally-* on November 21, 2008 at 06:53 PM
At least he likes girls!! can't say the same for you neocons.You like footsies undr the stall.

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peaceman on November 21, 2008 at 07:00 PM

Good evening fellow Democrats.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 21, 2008 at 07:06 PM

wow! you dems. are even hateful whenyou won. just remember obama is my president too and i hope he can take care of the terrorists well see ya and GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

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smith58 on November 21, 2008 at 07:09 PM

Sally-* on November 21, 2008 at 07:02 PM

Oh no you don't. This crisis is all George W. Bush's and we will keep reminding the sheeple of such all the way through 2012.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 21, 2008 at 07:14 PM

Evening Bob! I hope all is well in Blue Virginia tonight!

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marymac_memphis on November 21, 2008 at 07:16 PM

smith58 on November 21, 2008 at 07:09 PM

If a terrorist attack does come, I'm sure President Obama will do something more than read a copy of My Pet Goat while NY and DC burns. But there is one thing we can agree on. May God Bless the United States of America and the rest of the inhabitants on the planet.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 21, 2008 at 07:18 PM

marymac_memphis on November 21, 2008 at 07:16 PM

Hello Mary. Good to see you again.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 21, 2008 at 07:19 PM
Citigroup May Get Government Rescue, Investors Say (Update1)

By Christine Harper and Bradley Keoun

Nov. 21 (Bloomberg) -- Citigroup Inc. will probably get rescued by the U.S. government after a crisis in confidence erased half its stock-market value in three days, investors and analysts said.

Citigroup has more than $2 trillion of assets, dwarfing companies such as American International Group Inc. that got U.S. support this year. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke may favor a rescue to avoid the chaotic aftermath of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.’s bankruptcy in September.

“There is no question that Citi is in the category of ‘too big to fail,’” said Michael Holland, chairman and founder of Holland & Co. in New York, which oversees $4 billion. “There is a commitment from this administration and the next to do what it takes to save Citi.”...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a3ArjWNoRSKw&refer=worldwide

So we're going to save Citibank and let the Big 3 go under. Not no but, hell no! Citibank doesn't produce anything but paperwork. Citibank does not build infrastructure. Citibank does not produce one tangible asset. Screw the financial sector. This whole economic debacle is their fault.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 21, 2008 at 07:22 PM

SwirlyEyedObamabot on November 21, 2008 at 07:22 PM

So what is more important, the defense of the nation against a terrorist attack or the feelings of some schoolkids? Surely you're not trying to advance that arguement?

I'm quite confident that should a terrorist attack come during the Obama Administration, he'll handle it far better than President Bush who looked like a deer in headlights when notified of the attack. And considering how the GOP has sold us out to the Chinese over the past eight years, we may all be wise to learn Mandarin, I fear.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 21, 2008 at 07:28 PM
China 'using cyberwarfare to challenge US power' China is using cyberwarfare to challenge American power and distorting economic policy to exert political influence over other countries, according to a hostile congressional report.

The report accuses China of using its foreign exchange reserves, built up through "heavy-handed government control" to buy influence.

In one recent example, a government sovereign wealth fund agreed to use the reserves to loan money to Costa Rica in return for its dropping diplomatic recognition of China's rival, Taiwan.

Meanwhile, it has built up its army of cyber-spies to such an extent that it can launch attacks "anywhere in the world at any time".

The number of attacks on US government, defence companies and businesses rose by a third in 2007, to 43,880 incidents affecting five million computers, according to the claims by the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission.

Some were so sophisticated that they might be impossible to counteract, or even detect. Meanwhile, its space programme, targeted at what one Chinese military strategist called "America's soft ribs", was steadily increasing the vulnerability of US assets.

"China is intent on expanding its sphere of control even at the expense of its Asian neighbours and the United States," it said...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/3495181/China-using-cyberwarfare-to-challenge-US-power.html

Speaking of the Chinese, the same Chinese the GOP insisted on granting most favored nation trade status to and has sold out millions of manufacturing jobs to with their failed trade policy.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 21, 2008 at 07:32 PM

I read on page 4 of the Albuquerque Journal in a small article at the bottom that bush and cheney fired a missile deep into Pakistan.

Why did the MSM bury this article?

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Johne on November 21, 2008 at 07:34 PM

Sally-* on November 21, 2008 at 07:23 PM

If that did happen as you put it, you bet your sorry Republican arse I would be the first to slam a President Obama for it. The way President Bush managed 11SEP01 was absolutely appalling and constituted a dereliction of duty, IMHO.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 21, 2008 at 07:35 PM

I received a thank you note from Barack and Michelle today. How gracious.

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Johne on November 21, 2008 at 07:39 PM

Well folks, gotta go cut and split firewood. bbl
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Sally-* on November 21, 2008 at 07:25 PM

Why don't you go to crawford and help chimp cut brush. That is all he is good for.

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Johne on November 21, 2008 at 07:41 PM

the same Chinese the GOP insisted on granting most favored nation trade status to and has sold out millions of manufacturing jobs to with their failed trade policy.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 21, 2008 at 07:32 PM

Yes, and the same one that the WTO deems "emerging and developing," thus giving them 'priority' on trade agreements within the WTO and exemptions when it comes to pollution control and global warming issues!

Yep - the same China that 'owns' 54% of our national debt!

Yep, Bob - you are absolutely right!

P.S. Sorry if I got a little 'touchy' about title X funding last night. That's an important issue for me. I just feel like making birth control available to anyone who wants to 'family plan' in a responsible manner is important and I feel that it is one of the things that 'allowed' for meaningful welfare reform to happen.

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marymac_memphis on November 21, 2008 at 07:43 PM
Obama makes key Cabinet picks

News organizations confirm likely State, Treasury, Commerce choices

NBC News and news services
updated 2 hours, 51 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Just over two weeks after Barack Obama won the presidential election, his new Cabinet and economic team are starting to take shape.

Several key appointments, including State and Treasury Department secretaries, appear to be nearly done deals, with Democratic officials confirming Obama's intended nominees.

Hillary Clinton will give up her Senate seat and accept the nomination for secretary of state, The New York Times reported Friday.

NBC's Andrea Mitchell and Political Director Chuck Todd reported that Obama will unveil his economic team on Monday, with New York Federal Reserve President Tim Geithner likely taking the helm as Treasury secretary.

Wall Street got a boost of confidence following NBC's report. Stocks surged, with the Dow Jones industrial average closing up nearly 500 points...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27832013/

And there goes the troll theory of the market reacting negatively to President-Elect Obama up in a puff of smoke just like their majority that was supposed to last a generation.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 21, 2008 at 07:44 PM

Only great minds can read this

This is weird, but interesting!


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Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.

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Esmeralda on November 21, 2008 at 07:45 PM


In letter to Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), McConnell urged Reid to adopt a more conciliatory tone and warned him that Republicans will unite against Democrats if he does not. The letter was signed by all 40 GOP senators and two Republican incumbents who are awaiting the results of elections in Georgia and Minnesota


what part of "MINORITY" did this old fool miss? One of my biggest regrets is that this idiot did not get voted out! I hope the Dems broadcast how much Repugs are looking forward to reaching across that aisle! And that bipartisan bullshit !

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PamB on November 21, 2008 at 07:47 PM

Bob,

Hitler must be ecstatic, His third reich lasted twelve years and chimp's fourth reich only lasted eight. They were both about equal in mentality.

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Johne on November 21, 2008 at 07:50 PM

marymac_memphis on November 21, 2008 at 07:43 PM

Mary, I seriously doubt that you'll ever owe me an apology for anything. You're a class act and welcomed asset to our blogging community.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 21, 2008 at 07:52 PM

Have a good weekend fellow Democrats. Keep the Faith and keep the faith. Yes we can, yes we will, and yes we did!

Johne on November 21, 2008 at 07:50 PM

Sad but true, Johne, sad but true. Only 60 days and counting....

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 21, 2008 at 07:56 PM

Evening Essie,

That is interesting. I have seen this before and it is really fascinating.

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Johne on November 21, 2008 at 07:57 PM

The stock market has been declining ever since it became clear that Obama was going to win - since Sept 15th. It is the Obama recession.

67Sally-* on November 21, 2008 at 07:02 PM


nice try, bubba, but there is a lot more to a Recession than just stock market falling.

decline in GDP, personal income, employment, industrial production, wholesale/retail sales, etc.


OH, NO, This is Bush and The Republican's Recession for a second time in the last 8 years, and he owns it lock, stock and barrell!@!!

You forget the bloggers here are smarter than you are.

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PamB on November 21, 2008 at 08:23 PM

If a terrorist attack does come, I'm sure President Obama will do something more than read a copy of My Pet Goat while NY and DC burns.
BobVADemocratHawk


Hi bob, it was not the book reading, it was the look on his face and his not moving or getting up or anything for SEVEN MINUTES after he heard we had been attacked! I am sure they had to find a new pair of underwear for the Cowardly chimp when they did leave there.

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PamB on November 21, 2008 at 08:30 PM

Has Obama selected anyone who was not part of the Clinton administration yet? That's change you can believe in.

Maybe he will hire Monica, he likes fat gals.

60Sally-* on November 21, 2008 at 06:53 PM

Yes his name is Tim Geithner, and the stock market loved it, and so did i, and so did your pug friends, or the market would not of made a 550 point turn around, from 3:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. eastern time. It really was like a thousand point turn around the market was headed for a 500 point decline, before this announcement.

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chassie on November 21, 2008 at 10:29 PM

Yah Hoo Obama is getting pro-active, which is exactly what we needed, now its time for congress to do the same, and quit F@@cking around.

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chassie on November 21, 2008 at 10:33 PM

G.M. has announced in case no body here knows that BankRuptcy is on the table, they said this was not a option, several times, but now they have announced it publicly. If the Dem, congress, don't quit dragging their feet on this issue. It will be worst then 9/11 and last for years to come. If you all think that the economy is bad now, just let the big three go down, and it will be worst then any of you have seen in your life times, that includes people that are 80 years and older.

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chassie on November 21, 2008 at 10:43 PM

Folks, if you have took a hit on your investments, and i know that you have, even the best of the best have.

If the big three go down, sell everything that you got or convert it to your Sealy Mattress, if this happens it will be great depression nub. 2. Its time to get pro active people, this is your money and future at stake here.

But from what i read here, nobody really cares, and are more concerned with gays, etc. And the weekend football games!

The future is yours to grasp, but weekend football games is not it. Get pro active with the economy. That's your future.

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chassie on November 21, 2008 at 10:57 PM

Sally, i agree with you, Hillary has got a large back side. However I would not kick her out of bed, for eating crackers.

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chassie on November 21, 2008 at 11:05 PM

Sally, Hillary can put her shoes under my bed anytime, she wishes!!!

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chassie on November 21, 2008 at 11:09 PM

Barbi on November 21, 2008 at 11:05 PM

Barbi, i married a woman from the show me state.

SHOW ME.

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chassie on November 21, 2008 at 11:11 PM

Now, please stop the brow-beating on wedge issues, okay?

Barbi, if you consider, are future a wedge issue then your sick.

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chassie on November 21, 2008 at 11:13 PM

O.K. Barbi, shoot me dead, i don't have the time to read all of the posts, but you attack me, and said that i was making wedge issues, that's not true I'm serious about my posts. I hate wedge issues, but reality is a bitch, and the posts that i made are reality, and not wedge issues. I apologize to you.

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chassie on November 21, 2008 at 11:30 PM

barbi, chassie is evolving as a cyber space entity.

i wonder if sarah saw this from her house??

"CALGARY, Alberta - A massive ball of fire that lit up the skies over two Western Canadian provinces on Thursday evening was likely among the biggest meteor events to be witnessed in Canada this year, one expert said.

The fireball, which streaked through the darkening skies over Alberta and Saskatchewan at about 5:30 p.m. Calgary time, likely weighed between 1 and 10 tons and shone brightly enough to be seen over an area 435 miles (700 kilometers) wide.

"It was somewhere between the size of a chair to the size of a desk," said Alan Hildebrand, a planetary scientist at the University of Calgary and a coordinator of a fireball reporting service.
Story continues below ↓advertisement | your ad here

"This one was pretty spectacular. For this year it will be one of the biggest that happens over Canada. ... Something like this radiates like a billion-watt bulb. It's a pretty bright light in the sky."

Hildebrand said the meteor may have broken into hundreds of smaller meteorites that likely landed in central Saskatchewan near that province's border with Alberta.

The fireball lit up the skies for about five seconds, he said."

you can check out some video of this event at msnbc an probably lots of other sites. pretty amazing...

i like the obama cabinet a lot. it will be so nice to try smart after having lived with stupid for the past eight years.

good night.

good night.

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gregg on November 21, 2008 at 11:31 PM

146YayObama on November 21, 2008 at 11:28 PM

Justify it any way you want to, it won't make any difference, if these guys go down it will be worst then anyone can imagine. Thats what i'm telling you. Are you prepared for that i doubt it! You have been watching to much T.V. and not using your common sense, like most educated people.

Why is it that educated people always think that educated sense, always trumps common sense. I've said it more the once on this blog, animals have more common sense then people, and it serves them well. As far as I'm concerned common sense trumps, educated sense, cuz educated sense don't have any rationality, none, zero, zippo!

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chassie on November 21, 2008 at 11:44 PM

Chassie,

The auto industry problem is bush's legacy and bush's problem. ("Wrong, its all of are problem).


When bush leaves office there will be no more incompetence. (Argeed)

When Obama is inaugurated, the real debate for what to do will begin.

(It will be to late at this time, we don't have that time to spare.)

50YayObama on November 21, 2008 at 11:33 PM

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chassie on November 21, 2008 at 11:50 PM

Barbi, do you really think that I'm posting wedge issues? And if you do please elaborate. Cuz i don't understand that terminology.

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chassie on November 21, 2008 at 11:53 PM

Barbi i got a question for you off of the subject, who make the song, Rain Drops keep falling on my head. Who's the artist? My spouse is asking me this question as we speak.

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chassie on November 22, 2008 at 12:00 AM

The auto industry debacle is not doomsday.

Benji, It might not be doomsday for you, or your friends but it could be very well be doomsday, for your parents, grandparents, uncles, and aunties, ect. But maybe that don't concern you huh? I take it that your relative young, and naive. If you don't belief me ask your elders, in your family, forget your friends they don't no shit about reality.

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chassie on November 22, 2008 at 12:13 AM

Benji, and Barbi thank you for the info, and the video Barbi. If I'm not mistaken B.J. Tomas also remade the song I'm so lonesome i could cry, originally made by Hank Williams Sr. Am i right my spouse and i are reminiscing.

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chassie on November 22, 2008 at 12:25 AM

GM hasn't run out of liquid cash, neither has Ford or Chrysler.

If that is the case Benji why has G.M. went public this day and said that they are considering bankruptcy? When they said upteen times that that was not a option?

You can spin it anyway you want but we don't have the time for obama to take charge before this happens. The next couple of weeks will prove this to you if nothing is done.


Benji why don't you quit the games and use your real name, this makes you look as bad as the trolls?

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chassie on November 22, 2008 at 12:34 AM

YayObama on November 22, 2008 at 12:41 AM

Benji, your clearly behind the curve here G.M. has been retooling for 4 years. all they need is a brige loan to get there.

Of course your to young to remember, but the big three brought us through World War 2. and on top of that if it was not for the big three they would of never been a middle class, they created the middle class. You can thank them for what you got today. Of course the Pugs are still pissed off, cuz Henry T. Ford payed his employees a living wage. The pugs don't want a middle class, and i'm even starting to wonder about are leaders, in congress if they want one.

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chassie on November 22, 2008 at 12:49 AM

Benji, i'm not arguing with you anymore, you don't make sense, and you are very very "NAVIE".

Good night don't let the bedbugs bite.

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chassie on November 22, 2008 at 12:55 AM

YayObama on November 22, 2008 at 12:41 AM

If yor respect it, then defend it! And quit blow hearting.

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chassie on November 22, 2008 at 01:04 AM

cactus but thier only 50 states you LIAR!

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dusty2006 on November 22, 2008 at 01:28 AM

I'M SO LONESOME I COULD CRY

B J Thomas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5nimQVpqPA

Hank Williams Live Performance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvW6_-TP5cs

Marty Robbins:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrVpImnBWOI

Dean Martin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6uloaHIX4Q

198Barbi on November 22, 2008 at 12:58 AM

Barbi i don't know whether to thank you for keeping me up with these postings, and bringing tears to my eyes, or or or.

But anyway your a sweetheart, and you went to a lot of trouble to do that, and obviously a music addict. Nothing wrong with that, your a professional in this field.

Thank You Barbi, your the one when it comes to the music videos.

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chassie on November 22, 2008 at 01:45 AM

Okay, Chassie and Benji. Here's how I see the big three auto problem:

Right now, our country is in an economic downturn and things are not going to get better for a while. Yes, the Big Three ignored the handwriting on the wall for decades.

But if they go down, a lot more Americans, millions are going to be unemployed. They need this, now, to restructure. Obama has said they need the help. They've got to straighten out their acts, finally, and get with the program.

But, yes, also, they are not the only American industry in dire straights. But if they aren't helped out now, it's going to get worse for a lot more people and auto elated businesses.

============================================Barbi on November 22, 2008 at 01:18 AM

Barbi while i can appreciate your view on the big three, i don't share your prognosis. There is no other business in these USOA that has the rippling effects of the big three None Zero Nada!

If we let them go down, forget about winning in 2010, and 2012 this country will make a complete turn around to the pugs, oh i know you don't believe me but the far reaching effects will ripple right thur 2010 and 2012. Yeah I know its the pugs fault. But America will blame the Dems. And the center of America will turn back to the right and screw us for another decade. Its time to get ahead of this and not let it happen, if it happens, were screwed, just wait and see, and never forget that i warned you.

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chassie on November 22, 2008 at 02:08 AM

hi this is robertgregg reporting in. no one has been able to find president bush, he was last seen using his hands to push his head further and further up his own ass....is it possible that he "swallowed" himself and disappeared?

rush is calling the economic disaster the obama recession. this is hysterical and pathetic all at the same time....right wing nuts have so little to say these days they have to rant the most idiotic stuff just to get noticed....rush is like the guy who rear ended a school bus of disabled kids and when the cops show up claims the cops were driving his vehicle. i am going to enjoy watching rush's head melt over the next decade...

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gregg on November 22, 2008 at 08:06 AM

speaking of mind bending here is sally in the run up to the election:

"McCain wins 56 - 44. Take it to the bank.
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Sally-* on October 30, 2008 at 12:15 AM"

here is sally yesterday:

"The stock market has been declining ever since it became clear that Obama was going to win - since Sept 15th. It is the Obama recession.
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Sally-* on November 21, 2008 at 07:02 PM"

so either sally was making shit up about what it believed in october or what it believed yesterday. this is the rush gambit....keep saying it's obama's recession and eventually everyone will buy it....the old big lie stratergy...wow is this an overly played hand by the right ( wmd, deregulation will solve all our ills, there really is an easter bunny and so on ) and it will go nowhere except to even bigger democratic congressional majorities in 2010....could it be that sally and sarah get advice from the same "experts"...gobble, gobble didley....?

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gregg on November 22, 2008 at 08:12 AM


it is because the Democrats cannot ignore the Republicans and pass foolish leftist crap willy nilly. They have to get some Republican support on everything they do or face annihilation at the polls next time

124Sally-* on November 21, 2008 at 09:57 PM


YES WE CAN!!! And when Americans SEE what gets passed---they will be so happy to vote in even more Democrats in 2010! Take THAT to your bank. (ooops, I forgot, you have to have money to walk into a bank)

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PamB on November 22, 2008 at 08:34 AM

Yes PB, you are a real brain.
121CactusBarrack on November 21, 2008 at 09:41 PM


Why THANK YOU, Danny Boy. But compared to you, EVERYONE here is, except for Stevie, Thomass & Burd of course........

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PamB on November 22, 2008 at 08:37 AM

No way, I have more self estime than to stoop that low.

178The_Evil_Dr*Burd on November 22, 2008 at 12:19 AM


BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!!!!!!!!! GASP..........

thanks for the chuckle! You don't even know how to SPELL it, say you have any of it!!!!!!
LMFAO!!!!!!

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PamB on November 22, 2008 at 08:50 AM

it is because the Democrats cannot ignore the Republicans and pass foolish leftist crap willy nilly. They have to get some Republican support on everything they do or face annihilation at the polls next time

124Sally-* on November 21, 2008 at 09:57 PM


YES WE CAN!!! And when Americans SEE what gets passed---they will be so happy to vote in even more Democrats in 2010! Take THAT to your bank. (ooops, I forgot, you have to have money to walk into a bank)

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JimmyJeep on November 22, 2008 at 11:14 AM

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JimmyJeep on November 22, 2008 at 11:14 AM

These right wingnut trolls are delusional. They are steadfastly not only refusing to admit that the American people have rejected their party's tired, failed ideas, but that they have succeeded in driving out the moderates in their party, who have been repulsed by the monomaniacal rantings of the wingnuts and the blatant hypocrisy of their stance on "pro-life" while supporting a war started on debliberate lies, and the pandering to the sociopathic me-ism of the K-street bosses that many Republicans have openly supported Obama. They have gutted their party by their extreme single-issue views, and are trying to blame Democrats.
These trolls represent the demented babblings of a dying party, whose few remaining supporters seem to feel that repeating enough hate, and personal attacks and other such elephant poop will somehow force the Republican party's former followers to return with hats in hand.
I've got news for the wingnuts. If the moderates return to the Republican fold, it will be with figurative if not literal, baseball bats, pick handles, and tar and feathers. Then we'll see whose clocks get cleaned.
It'll be fun to watch!

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Butte on November 22, 2008 at 11:36 AM

Go Ohio state O H I O !!!!

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peaceman on November 22, 2008 at 11:56 AM


Out with Cox, in with Uptick Rule

There's one specific decision, Jim Cramer believes, that President-elect Obama can make that would have immediate positive effects and "restore stability and credibility to our stock market" -- without costing a dime! It could even stop the "endless incredible pummeling of stocks." What's this miracle move, you ask? Simple: he should replace SEC Chairman Chris Cox.

Cramer strongly feels that everything Cox did to benefit short-sellers over regular, long investors needs to be repealed. The market rallied today with Obama's selection of Tim Geithner for Treasury Secretary. Cramer hasn't exactly showered Geithner with love on the show, for good reason: he was the "main architect" in the Lehman Brothers debacle that started the landslide.

Despite all that, Cramer is willing to be magnanimous and give Geithner a chance -- perhaps he learned from that disaster and will act accordingly. But in Cramer's mind, there's simply no excuse for Cox 's actions and "he must be moved out immediately."

The policies he enacted in the SEC gave huge power to short-sellers -- power enough to "manipulate stocks down legally through multiple different means." The worst of his policy decisions was eliminating the "uptick rule."

The uptick rule was devised in the '30s by Congress and the SEC following the Great Crash to prevent a repeat of it from ever occurring. They investigated the tactics used by market manipulators and installed the simple yet effective uptick rule -- a rule that "required short-sellers to wait until a buyer could be found to pay an uptick, meaning a higher price, before they could short a stock."

The government back then understood that buyers are smart -- they'd "vanish if they believed there was something wrong with a stock," like when sellers "want to get out so badly they'll sell at any price."

After Cox did away with this safeguard, short-sellers ran rampant, shorting stocks "all the way down" without needing to wait for buyers, which is what happened to Citigroup [C 3.77 -0.94 (-19.96%) ]. Cramer: "I think the shorts played a key role in obliterating this once great American bank."

Bottom line: "You want order restored, the markets to work again, an end to the endless sowing of fear? Then bring back the rules we put in place to avoid another Great Crash. The uptick rule wasn't broken, but the SEC 'fixed' it and put the 'fix' in for the shorts. It's time to give the longs back a level playing field, stop the rigging of the market by the shorts, and bring capitalism, not capital destruction, back to our markets

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chassie on November 22, 2008 at 12:40 PM

PalinClown: I am a Christian and I agree with you. Billo is just being stupid. I wish people 'happy holidays' because that covers everything. Christians, while - yes we celebrate Christmas - we also celebrate Thanksgiving and New Years. So when someone says that "Happy Holidays" is anti-Christian, I just shake my head and walk away. What a bunch of numb-skulls who are simply trying to make a 'wedge' issue where none really exsists. Just Billo being an a$$!

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marymac_memphis on November 22, 2008 at 01:14 PM

The 18-year-old from Alaska reported the assault the next morning. No arrests have been made.

Let me guess - she's related to the woman who carved a 'b' into her own face and then tried to blame it on supporters of Sen. Obama?

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marymac_memphis on November 22, 2008 at 01:18 PM

Tuning Out the Braindead Megaphone
Friday 21 November 2008
by: David Sirota, Creators Syndicate


If you're having trouble remembering what the recent election was all about, rest easy: you're probably not going senile - you're likely experiencing the momentary effects of brainwashing. For weeks, your television, newspaper and radio have been telling you America is a "center-right nation" that elected Barack Obama to crush his fellow "socialist" hippies, discard the agenda he campaigned on, and meet the policy demands of electorally humiliated Republicans.
This is the usual post-election nonsense from the Braindead Megaphone, as author George Saunders famously calls our political and media noise machine. When George W. Bush wins by 3 million votes, the megaphone blares announcements about a conservative mandate that Democrats must respect. When Obama wins by twice as much, the same megaphone roars about Democrats having no mandate to do anything other than appease conservatives.
It's confusing, isn't it? We hazily recall backing Obama and his progressive platform. Yet, the megaphone's re-educative shock treatment aims to wipe away that memory and conjure eternal conservatism from our spotless minds.
Luckily, we have polling to maintain our sanity. Public opinion surveys show most Obama voters knew the Illinois senator is a progressive when they cast their ballots - and those votes for him weren't just anti-Bush protests, they were ideological. According to a post-election poll by my colleagues at the Campaign for America's Future, 70 percent of Americans say they want conservatives to help this progressive president enact his decidedly progressive agenda.
Sensing the enormity of these numbers, Obama seems ready to back a "big bang" of far-reaching initiatives. "We can't afford to wait on moving forward on the key priorities that I identified during the campaign," he said in his first radio address as president-elect.
Based on advertisements, Obama identified no more important priority than guaranteeing health care for all citizens. As the Campaign Media Analysis Group reported, he devoted more than two-thirds of his total television budget to ads that included health care themes. Consequently, a Pew poll found 77 percent of Americans said health care would be a decisive concern in their presidential vote.
The moral case for universal health care is obvious. In the world's richest country - in a country that builds lavish sports stadiums and showers Wall Street with trillion-dollar bailouts - 18,000 people die each year because they lack health insurance. We permit this annual massacre while our wasteful system exacerbates our debt and saps our economic competitiveness by forcing us to spend more money per capita on health care than any other nation. Thatroblem would have been addressed long ago. Overcoming inertia on such a thorny issue requires budget pressure - which Obama definitely faces. While some claim the deficit should preclude bold health care legislation, it's the other way around. The Congressional Budget Office says America's fiscal gap is "driven primarily by rising health care costs," meaning a fix is an imperative. "People ask whether (Obama) has the fiscal breathing room to push health-care reform," economist Jared Bernstein told the Washington Post. "He doesn't have the fiscal breathing room not to do health-care reform."
Additionally, as with everything in Washington, a political motive is needed for action - and even conservatives acknowledge Democrats have such a motive when it comes to health care.
Fifteen years ago, Republican strategist William Kristol warned that the Clinton administration's universal health care proposals represented "a serious political threat to the Republican Party" because, if passed, they "will revive the reputation" of Democrats as "the generous protector of middle-class interests."
As we all remember, Democrats failed to capitalize on the health care opportunity. But Kristol's prophecy was correct then, as it is now. With huge Democratic majorities in Congress come 2009, only the Braindead Megaphone is in Obama's way.

http://www.truthout.org/112208B

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marymac_memphis on November 22, 2008 at 01:32 PM
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marymac_memphis on November 22, 2008 at 01:46 PM
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marymac_memphis on November 22, 2008 at 01:49 PM

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SwirlyEyedObamabot on November 22, 2008 at 01:00 PM
"She declined medical attention?"
That tells you something right there. Experienced medical personnel are pretty good at spotting self-inflicted wounds.
Things that make you go Hmmmm???!!!

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Butte on November 22, 2008 at 02:28 PM

Anyone there?

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Butte on November 22, 2008 at 04:27 PM

I guess all that elephant poop clogged the server.

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Butte on November 22, 2008 at 04:29 PM

hi butte

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dusty2006 on November 22, 2008 at 05:00 PM

Evening Dems. Busy day here.


the smell of sour grapes is permeating thru my smell-o-vision monitor! Mixed with smell of arrogance, it is not a pleasant odor!

The paranoia and racism in Thomass' posts are really something! The blacks are going to take over and beat him up now? Better stay hiding in the TORO factory then, Tomm-ass! Behind one of those new Snowblowers! Your boss does not want you touching any more of their computers anyways. He was sure pissed! Wait till he sees today's little gems. I am sure you will be in line for a BIG promotion! hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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PamB on November 22, 2008 at 06:29 PM

i love the sarah and the turkey video. that will have many uses as the years go by and the wackos try to drag her out and about for various purposes....put it together with her bubbly glee at the suggestion that she go baby seal butchering with the fake french president and it becomes priceless!

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gregg on November 22, 2008 at 07:08 PM


Michelle will be a real force as lst Lady. Why is it, Republican 1st ladies all have no ambition, no interest in bettering the country and the world. They are so used to being subservient!

Great expectations await nation's next first lady


The moving trucks haven't even arrived, and already Michelle Obama's being touted as the next Jackie Kennedy, the woman who'll infuse Washington with a sense of style and vigor not seen since the days of Camelot.

Never mind that Obama has repeatedly indicated she'll focus first and foremost on getting her daughters settled. Expectations on all fronts are running high.

Will she be a fashion trendsetter? Redefine and revitalize the capital's social scene? Be a globe-trotting emissary for her spouse? Going beyond Kennedy, will she influence policy on family issues? Will she be an exemplary mom, hostess, ambassador, advocate and politician, combining it all without wrinkling feathers or breaking a sweat?

The primary focus for the first year will be making sure that the kids make it through the transition," she said, sitting alongside her husband. "But there are many issues that I care deeply about." She cited two that she focused on during the campaign: Military families, and the work-family balance.

The first lady has enormous authority and power in this country to shed light on things she cares about," he says. "She's a megastar. She'll be able to choose and transform issues that she finds important

If Carter was criticized for being too politically active, Nancy Reagan, her successor, was criticized for being too socially active (and spending money on new china). But they can at least take heart that criticism of first ladies goes back to the beginning of the Republic


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081121/ap_on_re_us/michelle_obama_the_next_jackie;_ylt=AkAYu4D26y9ZiuHRxYNfC_lsnwcF

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PamB on November 22, 2008 at 07:31 PM


I love the sarah and the turkey video. that will have many uses as the years go by and the wackos try to drag her out and about for various purposes....put it together with her bubbly glee at the suggestion that she go baby seal butchering with the fake french president and it becomes priceless!


Hey gregg, I love how all the networks are showing that over and over and laughing their asses off at her! The media just find so much amusement at Palin.

Can you imagine her as President of the USA, after seeing her standing near those turkeys being shoved down some kind of machine, knowing that she guts caribous, shoots wolves, etc? I can't WAIT until she comes out of the closet and starts trying to become President! My cup runneth over at the thought! She thought SNL and the media made a fool of her before? They have just begun!

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PamB on November 22, 2008 at 07:38 PM

blog ya all tomorrow, Dems.

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PamB on November 22, 2008 at 07:39 PM

"Bush signs bill to extend jobless benefits".

Not that he found a heart. He's just trying to help all the Republications that have been out of work since the 4th.

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TexasLane on November 22, 2008 at 07:43 PM

Go Ohio state O H I O !!!!

317peaceman on November 22, 2008 at 11:56 AM

whooped them wolverines.

;)

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Esmeralda on November 22, 2008 at 08:09 PM

amusing:


Advertisements [?]
Source: Los Angeles Times

Overwhelmed by piles of junk mail, 'Mailman Steve' quit bringing it to the people on his North Carolina route. Customers are grateful. The Direct Marketing Assn., however, is not amused.

"Mailman Steve" -- a pudgy, kindly 58-year-old who toiled along a route in a rapidly growing neighborhood here -- was given probation in federal court this week for squirreling away at least seven years' worth of undelivered junk mail, which he had stacked in his garage and buried in his yard.

It should come as no surprise that the U.S. Postal Service did not receive a single complaint from Padgett's customers about missing mail during the years he withheld pizza circulars, oil change discount notices and Chinese menus.

"That 'Mailman Steve' should get a commendation," Doug Kopp, one of hundreds of people who contacted local news media to praise Padgett, said in a call to the paper.

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gregg on November 22, 2008 at 09:19 PM

all these people our different not all robert your insane sally and im
dusty from minnesota i don't know robert
going out to see real people don't bore your self to much talking to yourself

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dusty2006 on November 22, 2008 at 11:48 PM

Hello fine Dems

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Chicago on November 23, 2008 at 12:35 AM

Hello Dusty and Yayobama,
good to see you both on the boards.

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Chicago on November 23, 2008 at 12:37 AM

Sally-* on November 23, 2008 at 12:30 AM

Hello stupid_sally.
I see you are still confused as to who I am. I am Chicago. That is the only name I have ever posted under. Remember? I'm the one that saves a LOT of your REALLY STUPID predictions.
I will share some with you if you like.

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Chicago on November 23, 2008 at 12:39 AM

Here's one for startes:

Well DoPeyDoodle, ABC is not a reliable news source and it matters not who is collecting the most money from service people. If Hussein is collecting more it is because he is collecting it from people who are fired up about his candidacy. McCain doesn't fire anyone up but when it comes time to vote, the military will vote 60% - 40% Republican just like always.
Posted by Sally-* on August 27, 2008 at 08:01 PM

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Chicago on November 23, 2008 at 12:47 AM

Here is another:

This place is gonna be damn funny on election night when Hussein Obama loses 60 - 40%.
Posted by Sally-* on August 30, 2008 at 01:41 PM

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Chicago on November 23, 2008 at 12:48 AM

Here is another fine example of Sally's stupidity:

McCain with the fair Sarah will win 60% - 40%.
Posted by Sally-* on September 1, 2008 at 05:22 AM

HAAHHAHAHHAAHAHAHHH... What a DUPE.

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Chicago on November 23, 2008 at 12:52 AM

Election night is going to be damn comical here. No one will be here except me and cactus and harpo and birdman. The regular 8 will be down in the dumps. Some will commit suicide, others will get drunk and the rest will beat their significant others.
I'll be here tho.
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SALLY-* ON SEPTEMBER 11, 2008 AT 10:13 PM

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Chicago on November 23, 2008 at 12:57 AM

Looks like STupid_Sally slithered off...

I don't blame you Sally. Better for you to tuck tail and run than to have to face all the things YOU said that turned out to be WRONG!

Poor stupid little republican dupe

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Chicago on November 23, 2008 at 01:02 AM

I'll provide a few more for everyone's reading enjoyment:

Obama will lose by 20 points and if you are not a moron you know it. And that big a gap will flip the house and senate as well. Sorry baldy, you lose!
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SALLY-* ON SEPTEMBER 11, 2008 AT 10:26 PM

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Chicago on November 23, 2008 at 01:09 AM

Sarah will dismantle Biden in the debate. He will look really puny and it is likely to be the most watched show of the year - maybe ever.
Biden has the 3rd most liberal record in the Senate right after Hussein Obama and some other dude. Those liberal votes are gonna look real foolish to 75% of Americans.
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SALLY-* ON SEPTEMBER 13, 2008 AT 05:07 PM

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Chicago on November 23, 2008 at 01:15 AM

McCain/Palin hit 50% in daily tracking poll - Obama Bin Biden at 47%.
Subtract 5% from Obama Bin Biden and add it to McCain/Palin for the Bradley effect and it is McCain/Palin 55% and Obama Bin Biden 42%.
And it will get worse for Obama Bin Biden.
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SALLY-* ON SEPTEMBER 14, 2008 AT 04:29 PM

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Chicago on November 23, 2008 at 01:18 AM

Oh boy, greggy has made a prediction. A dopey prediction but a prediction.
Here is a better, more correct prediction. Obama will continue to lose ground until election day culminating in a Mondale type ass thumping.
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SALLY-* ON SEPTEMBER 16, 2008 AT 11:28 PM

AHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAH

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Chicago on November 23, 2008 at 01:19 AM

Of course if Obama is not ahead by 10 points in any given state, he will lose that state because of the Bradley effect.
If the Democrats wanted to elect a flaming asshat communist they probabley shouldn't have chosen a Negro.
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SALLY-* ON OCTOBER 1, 2008 AT 08:24 PM

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Chicago on November 23, 2008 at 01:20 AM

Well,
Good night all.
Looks like Sally tucked tail and ran.
Blog ya' tomorrow.

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Chicago on November 23, 2008 at 01:25 AM

why is everybody robert to you ? sally are you insane i'm not robert i'm dusty cant you read ! are you just a stupid troll iam from minnesota not newjersey you dumb clown

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dusty2006 on November 23, 2008 at 03:23 AM

i don't fried bologna and eggs i"m not robert your retard burd turd cnat you to read my post iam dusty from minnesota or do you two need to go back to school to learn to read

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dusty2006 on November 23, 2008 at 05:57 AM

you two near-sighted ass clowns can read it.SO WRITE IT BIG IM NOT ROBERT IM DUSTY FROM MINNESOTA GET THAT STRAIGHT

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dusty2006 on November 23, 2008 at 06:02 AM
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Esmeralda on November 23, 2008 at 07:16 AM

good morning ESMERALDA

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dusty2006 on November 23, 2008 at 07:18 AM

see you latter going to go back to bed nice to see you on here ESMERALDA

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dusty2006 on November 23, 2008 at 07:20 AM

and roberts

http://www.southernledger.com/ap/199781/Obama_plan_aims_for_25_million_new_jobs_by_2011

Obama plan aims for 2.5 million new jobs by 2011

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Esmeralda on November 23, 2008 at 07:22 AM
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Esmeralda on November 23, 2008 at 07:27 AM
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Esmeralda on November 23, 2008 at 07:34 AM
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Esmeralda on November 23, 2008 at 07:41 AM


Can't we just roll out the tar and feathers and ship this idiot back where he came from? I have to lmao when I hear a Republican today say that Democrats are the party of tax and spend!!!


Federal deficit could top $1 trillion. That is the Bush Inauguration gift to Barack Obama and the American people.


http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2008/11/23/federal_deficit_could_top_1_trillion/

Good Morning, Dems !!!

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PamB on November 23, 2008 at 07:48 AM

good morning esmeralda.

one of the great crimes of the bush years has been the abuse of deregulation and no where are the outcomes of these crimes more obvious and immediate than in mortgage lending which is one of the root causes of the economic mess the world is currently in. the following two excerpts from a great piece at msnbc capture the issue. one of the big tasks for the new administration will be to re-regulate in many areas and to seek out those right wing nuts bush has planted in the varoius agencies and fire them where possible and where that is not possible strip them of responsibilities and move there desks to the parking lot....after a bit of such treatment they will leave....i know i've seen it done in government...

"When Countrywide Financial felt pressured by federal agencies charged with overseeing it, executives at the giant mortgage lender simply switched regulators in the spring of 2007.

The benefits were clear: Countrywide's new regulator, the Office of Thrift Supervision, promised more flexible oversight of issues related to the bank's mortgage lending. For OTS, which depends on fees paid by banks it regulates and competes with other regulators to land the largest financial firms, Countrywide was a lucrative catch..."

"..."What you had here is a regulatory motif that was too accommodating to private-sector interests," said Jim Leach, a former Republican lawmaker who led what was then the House Banking Committee and now lectures in public affairs at Princeton University. "In this case, the end result is chaos for the industry, their customers and the national interest."..."

"...Reducing regulation
In the summer of 2003, leaders of the four federal agencies that oversee the banking industry gathered to highlight the Bush administration's commitment to reducing regulation. They posed for photographers behind a stack of papers wrapped in red tape. The others held garden shears. Gilleran, who succeeded Seidman as OTS director in late 2001, hefted a chain saw.

Gilleran was an impassioned advocate of deregulation. He cut a quarter of the agency's 1,200 employees between 2001 and 2004, even though the value of loans and other assets of the firms regulated by OTS increased by half over the same period. The result was a mismatch between a short-handed agency and a burgeoning thrift industry.

He also reduced consumer protections. The other agencies that regulate banks review corporate health and compliance with consumer laws separately, which consumer advocates say helps ensure that each gets proper scrutiny from specialists. Gilleran merged the consumer exam into the financial exam.

Gilleran did not respond to multiple requests to be interviewed for this article. But at the time he headed the agency, he defended the consolidation of the exams, saying thrifts would be required to conduct "self-evaluations of their compliance with consumer laws."

Then-Rep. John J. LaFalce (D-N.Y.), who at the time was the ranking Democrat on the House Financial Services Committee, wrote in a letter to Gilleran that this was "a complete abrogation of the mandate your agency has been given by Congress."..."

....in so many ways bush and his team of demented, deluded and greedy shit heads mocked the government they were empowered to run and tried to wreck it...they succeeded some but not completely and now we can repair it and return it to it's real purpose...to serve the people of the nation.

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gregg on November 23, 2008 at 08:04 AM

pam, i would prefer handcuffs and leg irons and some really short trials held on the mall in dc followed by a full secret service escort to a maximum security federal prison...but hey that's just me!

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gregg on November 23, 2008 at 08:06 AM


So they are now admitting that Palin was the wrong choice. I do not know how they think she will overcome that Far, Far, Right Image she definetly has, and try and capture any Independents or moderates! Democrats she will never capture.






Top advisers to President-elect Barack Obama’s presidential campaign said Friday that Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (I-Conn.) would have been a powerful boost to the Republican ticket.

During a conference on the 2008 election hosted by Politico and the University of Southern California, Obama-Biden deputy campaign manager Steve Hildebrand said choosing the renegade senator as McCain's running mate would have helped him undermine Obama’s claim to represent a new kind of politics.

“I think if he would’ve picked Lieberman or another Democrat, he would’ve taken away an important trademark of Barack’s,” Hildebrand said, explaining that he believed the Republican base would have accepted a Lieberman nomination. “I think the convention would’ve been just fine.”


Republican panelists defended the nomination of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, though they acknowledged that she had not accomplished all the goals the McCain camp hoped she would.

“Certainly our hope with Gov. Palin, going forward, was that there would be a connection to more moderate voters,” said Mike DuHaime, who served as the McCain campaign’s political director.

Greg Strimple, a Republican political consultant, said the Obama campaign’s financial advantage allowed Democrats to portray Palin as an extreme conservative.

“We allowed the Obama people to define her as somewhere far, far, far right,” he said.

Though panelists agreed that Democrats were able to overcome the advantages Palin brought to the Republican ticket, Obama campaign veterans acknowledged that there was a moment, following the end of the Republican convention in early September, when the Alaska governor seemed to have helped McCain establish a small lead.

“The reaction from women in the country made me nervous,” said Obama’s former traveling press secretary, Linda Douglass.

“It was suburban women we were losing,” Hildebrand said, though he continued: “I think after the first interview she did, and the Couric interview, my own sense was that this was going to be a candidate that just was not going to wear well over that eight-week period.”



http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15876.html

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PamB on November 23, 2008 at 08:16 AM

this is excerpted from a friedman essay and i got it over at kos. i never liked friedman but on this point i am in total agreement:

"If I had my druthers right now we would convene a special session of Congress, amend the Constitution and move up the inauguration from Jan. 20 to Thanksgiving Day. Forget the inaugural balls; we can’t afford them. Forget the grandstands; we don’t need them. Just get me a Supreme Court justice and a Bible, and let’s swear in Barack Obama right now — by choice — with the same haste we did — by necessity — with L.B.J. in the back of Air Force One."

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gregg on November 23, 2008 at 08:21 AM

gregg, However they do it, I will be there. I would love to see Bush and Cheney frogmarched into a prison. The entire world would.

Yet, isn't it amazing how the trolls and last of the neo-cons STILL defend this administration? I don't understand how they can look back at what they did over the last 8 years, the lies they told, the dead US boys for nothing, yet stick up for him. I chalk it up to just "taunts", because even these dumb mofos know they made a BIG mistake.

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PamB on November 23, 2008 at 08:22 AM

Good morning all good Dems,

why did we let the chimp escape to Peru for a "trade" summit this weekend? The SOB was spewing the same crap about free trade and further damaging our image abroad. When Putin and he met Putin was very cold. chimp said "we have our differences".

Will he ever stop pretending to be president and deepening the hole he has created for Obama.

it is criminal negligence on his part and of all the cronies he let loose on our financial deregulation. They should all pay with lengthy prison terms. However, I want to reserve the ultimate punishment for bush, cheney and dobson.

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Johne on November 23, 2008 at 08:23 AM

I don't know why they hold onto Lame Ducks, when they have no use either. I am watching as the entire World leaders are waiting for a New Leader to be sworn in, so they can all get back to straightening out this International crisis.

Nobody even shakes the Chimps hand at these gatherings.

ps, did you see how Oprah is trying to get Palin on? Now anybody who thinks she is trying to have her on, in order to swoon and paint her as a potential future President did not watch Oprah on Election night, crying over the victory.
She wants to do a Katie Couric on her, and prove once again, Palin is dumber than dirt! Palin belongs up in the boonies where she can do no harm other than to the Wild !

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PamB on November 23, 2008 at 08:28 AM

Oh, I forgot. I would like to throw in scalia too.

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Johne on November 23, 2008 at 08:29 AM

Morning Johne

bb after breakfast, etc.

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PamB on November 23, 2008 at 08:30 AM

This explains a lot. From the AP. Now chimp is busy destroying world regulations. Remove bush and cheney today.

"The APEC countries signed on as well, endorsing the effort to overhaul global regulations to prevent future crises and pledging to refrain from raising trade barriers in the face of the current downturn."

Bush wrapping up final global summit '

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Johne on November 23, 2008 at 08:44 AM

Morning Pam,

bbl too. I have to fix my gates before the wind destroys them again.

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Johne on November 23, 2008 at 08:46 AM

Happy Thanksgiving to you ...

Imagine, a music video by John Lennon.

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Jonathan_Graham on November 23, 2008 at 11:22 AM

good afternoon, roberts and robertas

Psalm 100:4-5
Enter [the Lord's] gates with thanksgiving and his courts with praise; give thanks to him and praise his name. For the Lord is good and his love endures forever; his faithfulness continues through all generations.

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Esmeralda on November 23, 2008 at 02:19 PM

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15895.html

Axelrod says he won't emulate Rove

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Esmeralda on November 23, 2008 at 02:32 PM
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Esmeralda on November 23, 2008 at 02:44 PM

I'm going to turn on Bluegrass Junction and wrap some Christmas presents.

Then those solar/wind dried bedsheets come off the line....ahhhh, nothing smells or feels so fresh and clean!

Enjoy the afternoon, roberts.

Fruitful Suffering
Genesis 41:52
..."It is because God has made me fruitful in the land of my suffering."


Joseph named his second son Ephraim. Ephraim was given to him after he had been delivered from his suffering of 13 years. Joseph said that he named him this because God had made him fruitful in the land of his suffering. Ephraim means "twice fruitful."

Joseph was fruitful in two instances. He was fruitful during his time of adversity and in his prosperity. When God brings us into a time of suffering, it can be a fruitful time. It's rare for us to see the fruit during the suffering period. But know that the roots are going deep into the spiritual soil of our soul because of our pressing in to God during our time of suffering. This is producing a work in our character that cannot be seen until it finishes the process. Such was the case for Joseph.

It was not until several years after such a time of suffering that I began to see the fruit of the trials that the Lord allowed me to experience. How grateful I am to understand some of the "why" that has led to a new life in Him that I would never have had without this period.

Samson had great anointing but lacked character. We see many today who have great anointing yet lack character. But God is raising up Josephs who not only have great anointing for these days but also great character. Suffering produces character.

If you find yourself in a time of suffering, now is the time to press into God. Let your roots grow deeper. Whenever there is a famine, tree roots are forced to drive deeper into the soil to find water. These times are designed to create such a deep-rooted faith that our natures will be changed forever.

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Esmeralda on November 23, 2008 at 02:51 PM

Here is a sure sign, the economy is really bad, MSM is reporting, that the oldest profession in the world, is in the dumps. Prositudes are having a hard time making a living.

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chassie on November 23, 2008 at 03:20 PM

BBL this old man is going to take a nap, after a wonderful dinner, that my lovly wife cooked.

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chassie on November 23, 2008 at 03:22 PM

426SwirlyEyedObamabot on November 23, 2008 at 05:17 PM

Swirly, show me in my post where i said i care, or gave a shit, all i did was report that the MSM was reporting that it, was a sign of a bad economy. And it came from your favorite Network, Fix News, so call them and raise hell, why don't you?

And yes i misspelled Prostitute, big deal.

You damn pugs, are good at making a mountain, out of a molehill. But you all ain't worth a shit, at resolving anything. That's why your losing elections idiot. Every thing you pugs touch, goes to hell in a hand basket.

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chassie on November 23, 2008 at 05:46 PM

Anybody interested in seeing, how Obama's cabinet is shaping up.

Go to-------- FoxNews.com/Cabinet

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chassie on November 23, 2008 at 06:09 PM

Did you notice how nobody but the No-Life Trolls are the only ones on here on a Sunday evening?
So sad, all that sour grapes from LOSING! :)

Night Good Dems. Keep the Fire going, we have more elections in 2010 to take more of those seats!!! YAHOOOOOOOOO!

Pam Robert


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PamB on November 23, 2008 at 07:16 PM

Chassie,

I've NEVER watched fox news and I don't intent to now.


but thanks for the info.

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Esmeralda on November 23, 2008 at 07:16 PM

pamrobert,

I had a wonderful weekend with my Bella & Necee (Christmas shopping all day Sat.) and a wonderfully relaxing slacker Sunday. We cut some firewood late morning. While the carpenter went on an afternoon hunt, I wrapped presents and enjoyed a glass of vino. We're having pizza and pepsi right now. ;)

Are you getting caught up?

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Esmeralda on November 23, 2008 at 07:21 PM

Do ya notice how few the posters are when Robert takes the afternoon off?
431Sally-* on November 23, 2008 at 07:13 PM

The election is over, people are getting ready for the holidays, some folks only blog during the work week, and robert is off on an island hopping cruise.

I stopped here in between looking for recipes.


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Esmeralda on November 23, 2008 at 07:28 PM

sorry to interupt the trools night out. I'm outta here. lots of recipes to gleen through.

enjoy the evening, every robert.

Colossians 3:15
Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, since as members of one body you were called to peace. And be thankful.


(see, even trools are members of the one body, the butthole)

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Esmeralda on November 23, 2008 at 07:37 PM

you can dredge all you like. If you would have asked with good intentions and not being snide, I would look up as many bible verses as possible on the subject of prostitution.

here's a question for you, was Mary of Magdalene a whore or Christ's wife?

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Esmeralda on November 23, 2008 at 08:04 PM

Tamar: The wife of a son of Judah, who after having her husband and her husband’s brother struck dead by God before giving her a child, eventually tricked her father-in-law into impregnating her. It’s an interesting story not just because there’s so much sex involved, but because Judah says, “she is more righteous than I.” (Genesis 38)

Rahab: The prostitute who took in Israelite spies and hid them from the guards- she was rewarded by herself and her whole family being saved and accepted into the Israelite camp- something which directly contradicted God’s command. If I remembered correctly, she is in Christ’s lineage
Joshua 2

Now, do you still wish for me to drudge, butthole?

you don't have a clue what chassierobert was posting about. you just want to pull flap doodle out of your pooper.

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Esmeralda on November 23, 2008 at 08:13 PM

Esmeralda, this is chassie/robert I don't watch Fix News either, but i do watch Fox Business News, some. Which is where i got the info that I posted, that the Trool took isuue, with. This stupid people would argue with a 2x4.

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chassie on November 23, 2008 at 08:23 PM

you just want to pull flap doodle out of your pooper.

441Esmeralda on November 23, 2008 at 08:13 PM

Esmeralda, that's all they got left is flap doodle, they lost and are mad. They can't debate with any intelligence whats so ever, all they know is attack attack attack. Small men, with big ego's, reminds me of the Chimp in Chief.

These folks need to go bottom fishing, they would be good at it, since there so well versed in bottom fishing from the bottom of the barrel.

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chassie on November 23, 2008 at 08:30 PM

3 day work week for me. here's a couple of recipes I watched PD make today. I'll probably make the stuffing for turkeyday dinner, (my dad loves oyster stuffing) and save the sweet potato balls for another day.


http://recipes.pauladeen.com/index.php/recipes/view/oyster_dressing/

http://recipes.pauladeen.com/index.php/recipes/view/sweet_potato_balls/


no drudging, just googled bible verse of the day:

1 Thessalonians 5:15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.

enjoy the night, roberts.


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Esmeralda on November 23, 2008 at 08:31 PM

did jesus tell you to spew hate on here dr turd

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dusty2006 on November 23, 2008 at 10:04 PM

Good evening, all.

Well, it looks like I wasn't the only one out of town this week. So Matt is finally cashing in on all those vacation days he didn't take during the campaign? Good for him and the rest of the staff.

The first thing that caught my eye when I got home and looked through the headlines is this:

Rich countries launch great land grab to safeguard food supply

Rich governments and corporations are triggering alarm for the poor as they buy up the rights to millions of hectares of agricultural land in developing countries in an effort to secure their own long-term food supplies.

The head of the UN Food and Agriculture Organisation, Jacques Diouf, has warned that the controversial rise in land deals could create a form of "neo-colonialism", with poor states producing food for the rich at the expense of their own hungry people...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/nov/22/food-biofuels-land-grab

Instead of the Pope worrying about the Unborn, why in the hell isn't he worrying about the starving poor in this life? John Lennon didn't do anything that needs to be forgiven. But the Vatican is pushing the envelope, imho.

Between the land grabs and the harvesting of human organs from the poor in developing countries, the multinational corporations are now taking the food right out of their mouths before they can grow mature specimens for transplants?

Somehow, you'd think this would be more of a concern to the fundamentalist Christians (and Catholics) than women using birth control pills or gays marrying. But then these are the same people who cheered on Bush when he invaded and plundered Iraq under suspicious circumstances..still are cheering him on after they know he lied about the WMD.

So now we now know why the Bush Crime Family is buying up all that fresh water in Paraguay. They're going to sell it to the South Koreans and Arabs to grow their food in Africa...while the Africans starve?

What in the hell is wrong with the Human Race that we are standing by and letting these rich Multinationalists act like apes? Peace and good will to all this holiday season?

I'm ready for Jesus to come again and kick some more serious butt in the temples of the high and mighty.

We really need to start standing up to the these wealthy parasites. It's time to let the irresponsible entities like CitiCorp fail and take what's left of the financial bailout money to rebuild our manufacturing base...before the American middle class finds itself selling our organs to rich potentates, too.

No wonder Jesus had no problem with the Romans. He knew a lot worse was yet to come...beginning with the Reagan Revolution.

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SandyH on November 23, 2008 at 11:15 PM

you want god. here is some god for you...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd2LSKL9Yjs

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gregg on November 24, 2008 at 12:09 AM

sally your idiot you think everybody is robert get help for this problem

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dusty2006 on November 24, 2008 at 03:19 AM

Call me a fagist if you like.

285Sally-* on November 22, 2008 at 04:29 AM

===

It's okay if you are gay, Sally* Stevie. Really.

289Barbi on November 22, 2008 at 04:33 AM

===

Stevie Lloyd Thornburg from Hinckley MN who posts under the name Sally, just admitted that he is a homosexual?

Wow.

Don't worry sally, we won't tell anyone.

298YayObama on November 22, 2008 at 04:46 AM

===

Why, yes, Benji, I think he did.

300Barbi on November 22, 2008 at 04:51 AM

_____

Fagist:

a fag, someone who's just really gay, an object that's not working, something being totally gay and stupid
_____


The election is over, people are getting ready for the holidays, some folks only blog during the work week, and robert is off on an island hopping cruise.

I stopped here in between looking for recipes.

437Esmeralda on November 23, 2008 at 07:28 PM

===

Sally is an ignoranus: not only ignorant, but is also an asshole ...

... because he thinks that a lot of the people who post here are somebody else. And they aren't.

Maybe, it's just paranoia.

Paranoia: a psychiatric disorder involving systematized delusion, usually of persecution

Yeah, paranoia ... that's the ticket.

Sally* is definitely the most prolific paranoid lunatic loser and the dumbest wing-nuttiest poster to ever troll on this site.

NOBODY is claiming to be Robert J Scardapane.

Knock it off with posting his information.

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KA-Boom on November 24, 2008 at 06:45 AM

sally im not robert get that straight why dont you take vacation with your gay lover cactus dan and go to nevada and stay for spell

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dusty2006 on November 24, 2008 at 08:04 AM

"Did you notice how nobody but the No-Life Trolls and myself are the only ones on here on a Sunday evening?"


duhhhh, stevie old man, you been coming here about 3 years now, and you have seen me come in and log out every single one of those nights. Not blogging, merely logging off my machine. What part of that did your sick little mind miss? sheesh, I wonder how you function as sick as you are.

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PamB on November 24, 2008 at 08:08 AM

Good morning all good Dmes,


I was forced to listen to a few minutes of that ahole cunningham on the radio last night. This guy is such a moron. He says that hoover just had a recession and it was Roosevelt who got us into a depression. What a laugh. The country was in the Great Republican Depression when Roosevelt took office. hoover didn't have a clue just like the neotards of today.

cunningham also says that the bush administration is filled with idiots and that the country has been led by Democrats since 1932. he even valls Eisenhower an Independent. This ahole is deluded.

cunningham also says that Obama is leading us into socilaism and that he won't stand for it.

cunningham also says that we should do away with all departments like education, energy, commerce, etc. This guy needs a straight jacket. He is playing to the demented fools who voted for mcstupid and phalin.

Give me a break.

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Johne on November 24, 2008 at 08:11 AM

how iam i claiming to be robert ? this allways how i type
i think sally is insane and need to be put away for his own good away from the computer in a rubber room

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dusty2006 on November 24, 2008 at 08:12 AM

hi pam im not troll just good democrat

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dusty2006 on November 24, 2008 at 08:21 AM

dusty, do not pay ANY attention to Stevie. Between his paranoia, naricissism, and just a great need to feel like he is superior to Something other than a rock, he chooses to pretend that he is aware of some big conspiracy on here where only one person named Robert is posting. He KNOWS this is not the truth, but he must act like he knows something we are putting over on him!

We should all feel very sorry for a man who has absolutely nothing else in his life, (now even the only daughter has a boyfriend she would rather spend time with) so he must resort to being up all night long trying to make friends with other sick beings like German Burd, MN Thomass (who now is trying to pretend that is not him, so his boss can't pin it on him when he gets the emails) and then old sicko AZ Danny.

Take pleasure in knowing that these guys are absolutely sick in their guts that WE WON, THEY LOST. That their ideas and thoughts are in a minority of merely un-informed , easily swayed, koolaid drinking sheeple.

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PamB on November 24, 2008 at 08:29 AM

where is robert

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dusty2006 on November 24, 2008 at 08:37 AM

Good morning fellow Democrats!

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peaceman on November 24, 2008 at 08:56 AM

Esme, I am getting more organized. Still a lot to do , but I am getting there.

bbl, Dems.

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PamB on November 24, 2008 at 08:59 AM

i find it strange that no one has more interest in this blog than the troll.

seems lots of pundits and others want to find a way to get bush out of office today...of course when polled last year a vast majority of the american people wanted the bush years to end immediately. probably would have been a good idea to go for impeachment back then...

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gregg on November 24, 2008 at 09:09 AM

President-elect Barack Obama's top adviser insisted Sunday that Obama's economic plan would be big enough to handle the country's financial challenges, but he declined to speculate about how large the plan would need to be.
Senior adviser David Axelrod says it will take the "best people we can find" to carry out Obama's economic plan.
During the presidential campaign, Obama proposed a $175 billion stimulus package over a two-year period, but some of his economic advisers have said recently that the package would need to be much larger.
Asked if Obama would scale up the package, given the economic conditions, Obama's incoming senior adviser, David Axelrod, said he thinks Obama is "going to do what's necessary

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peaceman on November 24, 2008 at 10:22 AM

Good morning, all.

Weasel McConnell Knifes Bush in the Back

Nov. 23, 2008

Did the Senate Minority Leader just say he’ll be happy to see Bush go?

A top Republican said on Friday that Democratic U.S. President-elect Barack Obama is “off to a good start” and indicated he was pleased to see President George W. Bush get ready to leave.

“Our members, in one way, are kind of relieved by the departure of an administration that became unpopular and made it very difficult for us to compete,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell told reporters on Capitol Hill.

McConnell won 52.9 percent of the votes over Democratic challenger Bruce Lunsford in a surprisingly (to McConnell) competitive re-election campaign. Had he lost, it sounds like McConnell would have blamed it all on Bush, the man who employs McConnell’s wife, U.S. Labor Secretary Elaine Chao. McConnell has also been at Bush’s side on Iraq, cheering on the alleged progress that showed victory was just around the corner every year since he backed Bush’s ill-fated plan to invade.

http://www.pensitoreview.com/2008/11/23/weasel-mcconnell-knifes-bush-in-the-back/

There seems to be so many Republican Congressional leaders who are also part of a tag team couple for incompetent Republican administrations. Their was Gramm and his wife, Dole and his wife, and this charming wedded twosome. It smacks of the K Street lobbyist stench....one corrupt hand washing the other in graft and power.

They like to keep all in the family...Bush Crime Family.

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SandyH on November 24, 2008 at 10:38 AM

It's like GOP Reefer madness, cont'd

Now Bill O'Reilly weighs in on the all-important Fairness Doctrine, which conservatives have become comically obsessed with.

Actually, our favorite part of the segment was when it became clear O'Reilly didn't even know what a re-instated Fairness Doctrine would mean. (He thinks it would apply to cable television.)

http://mediamatters.org/countyfair/200811210005?show=1

Me thinks the conservative media pundits doth protest too much. So this is their newest global warming-type rant.

Fairness, like being too well educated, is detrimental to the health of the nation? What a bunch of morons.

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SandyH on November 24, 2008 at 10:55 AM

failure has no parents sandy...and all bush has touched has failed in epic proportions. the party he and rove were going to build that would last a thousand years is on it's death bed and hoping desperately for a head, heart and soul transplants.

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gregg on November 24, 2008 at 10:59 AM

Expertise Trumps Ideology in Obama's Early Picks

After he waged a campaign built around a stirring message of change, many of President-elect Obama's supporters expected him to begin stocking his administration with passionate progressives bristling to challenge the status quo. Conservatives anticipated something akin to the second coming of the New Deal.

Neither scenario has materialized.

At the quarter point in the transition process, Obama has surrounded himself with a cadre of seasoned political operatives and Clinton administration veterans known more for their expertise than ideology...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/cq/20081124/pl_cq_politics/politics2990448

Did the MSM really think that Obama would waste time setting up shop with people who needed to learn the ropes before taking action? The man understands the gravity of the situation. He has about 100 Bush fires to put out while he also institutes his own middle class agenda.

This is one Democrat who knows how to multitask and also make adjustments when necessary. He won't think twice about changing course when the situation warrants it and won't accept anything but innovation from his staff.

This is the American way. The MSM has accept incompetence for so long they have forgotten how this country became great.

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SandyH on November 24, 2008 at 11:10 AM

gregg on November 24, 2008 at 10:59 AM

I'm not too sure about failure not having parents.

We forget how much of the current mess started with the manipulations of George Sr. and his pals during the Reagan coronation. While he was far more sophisticated than his son and would never proceed without a clear plan, Poppy didn't have any qualms about twisting the facts and bulldozing through the Constitution to reach his goals.

The roots of modern Republican Party are as corrupt as the rotten fruit our nation is dealing with now. Wedge issues and Lee Atwater have been poisoning the well for near on 40 years now. Poppy adopted and engineered the Big Lie as his guide. He's one cold Multinational bastard. He treated his own country as nothing more than a pigeon to pluck.

The sad truth is that none of the Bush Crime Family feels any allegiance to the United States of America or its countrymen. While Spunky was almost pathetic in his corruption, George Sr. has been diabolical; and he’s gotten away without any scrutiny…till now. That’s going to change. We progressives must put a bright spotlight on how this greatest transfer of wealth and power in history was perpetrated. It started with the George Herbert Bush...not the son.

They are both traitors to their own nation and enemies to all Mankind.

I've gotta run. later.

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SandyH on November 24, 2008 at 11:48 AM

One for the road...

Bush says Citigroup deal needed to protect system

By JENNIFER LOVEN, AP White House Correspondent
WASHINGTON – President Bush argued Monday that the government's dramatic rescue of Citigroup was necessary to "safeguard the financial system" and help the economy recover, and he said there could be more such moves if other institutions need help...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081124/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_paulson

So why isn't Bush racing to save the auto industry? So he can break the Unions?

This creep and his GOP enablers in Congress aren't fooling the middle class any longer. Why do the delight so much in torturing the workers in this country?

bbl

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SandyH on November 24, 2008 at 11:57 AM

What are the chances of seeing a new thread soon....

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BlueinIdaho on November 24, 2008 at 01:09 PM

Do you think Congress will try and force the Big Three automakers away from the internal combustion engine and require a complete retooling for the exclusive manufacturing of electric cars?

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LincolnParkLiberal on November 24, 2008 at 01:12 PM

Yay! NEW THREAD...

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BlueinIdaho on November 24, 2008 at 01:29 PM

HI
im 13 and been a democrat all my life! GO OBAMA!!!!
Everyone here should be extremily proud God gave you common sense! thats why everyone here is a democratic!
Finally there is HOPE!

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CAdemocrat4444 on November 24, 2008 at 09:51 PM


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