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Posted by Jonah on June 26, 2009 at 09:00 AM

Happy Friday!

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FINALLY, a Repugican that GETS it!


Republican SC lawmaker: GOP needs to ‘lose the stinking rot of self-righteousness.’


Rep. Bob Inglis (R-SC) was one of President Clinton’s harshest critics in the 1990s, an “impeachment ‘manager’ who attacked the moral failings of the president.” However, in an interview with the Wall Street Journal, Inglis says that while he has since recognized that nobody’s perfect, his party is still clinging to its “self-righteousness”:

But with his governor now felled by similar temptations, Inglis sees an opening for the Republican Party, a chance to “lose the stinking rot of self-righteousness” and “to understand we are all in need of some grace.”

This is not “Bob Inglis 1.0,” the one that was a “self-righteous” expletive, he said in an interview with Washington Wire today. [...]

Indeed, Sanford’s political fall could be a saving grace for what remains of his governorship, Inglis suggested. “This may be an opportunity to extend a little grace to other people, to realize that maybe it’s not 100% this way or that way,” Inglis said.

Inglis also said that while he voted against the stimulus package, he opposed Sanford’s decision to reject the funding. He said that he told the governor, “for goodness sake, take the money.”

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PamB on June 26, 2009 at 09:07 AM

THIS is why you do not see more Republican Women in office! they are dumber than dirt, and these SHOULD have been kept pregnant and in the kitchen!


Bachmann’s Latest Irrational Fear About The Census: It Was Used To Intern The Japanese

On Fox News this morning, Bachmann repeated her determination to break the law. She also suggested that the Obama administration could use the Census data for nefarious purposes — including the imprisonment of Americans in concentration camps:

BACHMANN: If we look at American history, between 1942 and 1947, the data that was collected by the census bureau was handed over to the FBI and other organizations, at the request of President Roosevelt, and that’s how the Japanese were rounded up and put into the internment camps. I’m not saying that’s what the Administration is planning to do. But I am saying that private, personal information that was given to the census bureau in the 1940s was used against Americans to round them up!!!


Think Progress

What a nutcase she is.

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PamB on June 26, 2009 at 09:10 AM

Oh WOW, Sandford could get his ass thrown in jail!


Sanford’s Adultery May Be Criminal Under South Carolina Law
South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford (R) didn’t just “let down a lot of people” when he spent the last week in Argentina with his mistress, he may have committed a crime. Under South Carolina law:

Any man or woman who shall be guilty of the crime of adultery or fornication shall be liable to indictment and, on conviction, shall be severally punished by a fine of not less than one hundred dollars nor more than five hundred dollars or imprisonment for not less than six months nor more than one year or by both fine and imprisonment, at the discretion of the court. . . . “Adultery” is the living together and carnal intercourse with each other or habitual carnal intercourse with each other without living together of a man and woman when either of them is married to another.
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/25/adultery-criminal/#comments

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PamB on June 26, 2009 at 09:12 AM

Good morning, all.

Pam,

The dame has herself in trouble. The census is in the Constitution. As usual, a conservative goes way too far and puts themselves in direct opposition to the Founders...and she is dirt stupid.

Sanford is a similar nutcase. He figures HIS adultery is something special. I bet he spent all kinds of state money on this long-term affair. The very idea that HIS eight-year long affair could have been anything but innocent still doesn't register with this sleaze.

How many children did he have with his wife during this period?

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SandyH on June 26, 2009 at 09:46 AM

I love this political satire. It's so true. This is exactly the way the conservatives think...

We Can’t Afford Universal Fire Protection

by XNeeOhCon
Thu Jun 25, 2009

Republican lawmakers are strongly coming out in opposition to providing Americans a Universal Fire Protection Bill so that every American can have a fire put out if one is accidentally started somewhere. It is estimated that around 75 Million people live outside or at the edges of current fire protection zones.

"This bill would put a bureaucrat between you and your firemen," said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY). "We need to ensure that the government does not ration fire services, and that the principles of the free market are not destroyed."

The CBO estimates that the President’s plan would cost 1.6 Trillion dollars. This estimate does not take into account the value of the property that would be saved from destruction by fire.

"Some people are just going to have their house burn down," said Newt Gingrich, former Speaker of the House in a recent appearance on Fox News, "it sucks to be them, but this will cost too much. We need the money for blowing shit up in the Middle East."...

[The Government] couldn’t possibly put out fires as well as private companies could, but if we let them try, all those companies will go out of business because they would cheat by putting fire houses everywhere. The companies couldn’t afford to do that and make a profit at the same time. We feel that it would be un-American to allow that to happen.

The same group that opposes this plan also released a statement in opposition to all these other government services:

Libraries
Post office
Police Protection
Medicare
Medicaid
Social Security
The FDIC
Free Puppies for cancer patients
Roads and bridges
Electricity infrastructure
The EPA
The FDA
Unregulated personal oxygen consumption
Public education
Military Defense
Sewers
Air Traffic Controlers
Rainbows and butterflies.

Call your Senator and tell them you think Government fire protection is a good thing:
And while you're at it, tell them to give us our freakin' Public Option already!
(list blatantly stolen from Slinkerwink, h/t!)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/6/25/746820/-We-Cant-Afford-Universal-Fire-Protection

Where would we be if those rich conservative people called the Whigs hadn't been driven into oblivion? Where will we be if those rich conservative people called the Republicans aren't given the same treatment by the voters?

Gotta run. later.

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SandyH on June 26, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Sandford-----another nail in the Gop Coffin! They better not try to run on Family Values anymore====we shall laugh them out of town! haha


Sanford's affair another setback for GOP


The GOP has gone through some rough political patches, but thanks to the tabloid-style love tango between high-profile South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford and his mysterious Argentine mistress, the party and its prospects for 2010 and beyond are looking colder than a Patagonian winter.


http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1102622806386&s=5274&e=0011mVyFt08uDU5orDWnU8cGwkfTSv3qNsIDxnMkVq1LU2mZBD5hO4y5eP6iYxZDsaVchrppU7hCKgGAq6PtjHWvA2Gyjg0oiwyEe0FtKWiekT-TOl5BL48YLa0DREQ7fX8VMVqcf-r-NVVNGxzpeWCbsc1a6RtFdQyqA8sBW9vCCcYUhalZnbIP5XeiCf7gHLjEw4KHFWer3585XPBeWnTGnQzWzw_YdLY_ZzvrxsLWMc=

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PamB on June 26, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Here's another thing they cannot run on and hope to win anymore! The Cowboy Bully Boy technique never worked anyways! FEAR pushed every day never worked! Bye, Bye, Republican Party!

Obama Leads Republicans By Over 20 Points — On Terrorism!


Does anyone else find this number from the internals of the new Washington Post/ABC News poll just stunning?

Who do you trust to do a better job handling the threat of terrorism — (Obama) or the (Republicans in Congress)?

Obama 55%

Republicans in Congress 34%

A year ago, when the conventional wisdom held during the campaign that terrorism was a weak point for Obama, would you have predicted that he would come to hold a 21-point lead over the GOP on the issue?


http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1102622806386&s=5274&e=0011mVyFt08uDVr5weatJKuZSOhFLDdAyPadXOFEemZt3nn4VmoZ8ganACc7gC3jBgpNVmqtFWYaVnU9UaLS7A-VCmiRz9bnr0NBFAN8EP2oiwoX1WujhFfN3Ws7vTJFdYnLLUA0IXrkMOschggfiiljcRSfjn_-EuyEST073EBZ_ST1StasqIgFkhPTSUU_IUXKdabxbYA3g63iUE70h9_Oh9QMS3fIC-P

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PamB on June 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM

One for the road....

The Political Enclave That Dare Not Speak Its Name

The Sanford and Ensign Scandals Open a Door On Previously Secretive 'C Street' Spiritual Haven

By Manuel Roig-Franzia
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, June 26, 2009

...On any given day, the rowhouse at 133 C St. SE -- well appointed, with American flag flying, white-and-green-trimmed windows and a pleasant garden -- fills with talk of power and the Lord. At least five congressmen live there, quietly renting upstairs rooms from an organization affiliated with "the Fellowship," the obsessively secretive Arlington spiritual group that organizes the National Day of Prayer breakfast, an event routinely attended by legions of top government officials. Other politicians come to the house for group spirituality sessions, prayer meetings or to simply share their troubles.

The house pulsed with backstage intrigue, in the days and months before the Sanford and Ensign scandals -- dubbed "two lightning strikes" by a high-ranking congressional source. First, at least one resident learned of both the Sanford and Ensign affairs and tried to talk each politician into ending his philandering, a source close to the congressman said. Then the house drama escalated. It was then that Doug Hampton, the husband of Ensign's mistress, endured an emotional meeting with Sen. Tom Coburn, who lives there, according to the source. The topic was forgiveness.
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"He was trying to be a peacemaker," the source said of Coburn, a Republican from Oklahoma....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/25/AR2009062504480.html?wpisrc=newsletter&wpisrc=newsletter&wpisrc=newsletter

This place sounds like a nest of blackmailers and back stabbers. Coburn is the high priest of these cigar smoking, pious bunch of hypocrites and philanderers?

I wonder who really funds the place besides the public organizations mentioned. I wouldn't be surprised if the Rev. Moon isn't involved in some way. Why hasn't any award-winning investigative reporter looked into that organization?

As for all their talk of "forgiveness", where was the forgiveness for Bill Clinton when The Fellowship joined forces nationally with other "Christian" and conservative groups to impeach? Forgiveness is only for conservatives who falter? They even have Sanford's wife talking the talk.

So this place is the site of a former convent? More like it's now a nunnery for those seeking refuge from their chosen wayward lifestyles and possible outtings by other members of The Fellowship. Wasn't the Rev. Ted Haggard involved in establishing those White House Prayer breakfasts?

WE will forgive and protect you if you agree to continue serving the conservative cause?

Power is obviously far more important than prayer in the lives of these people. The power over others is everything. Just how morally and politically corrupt can these conservative Republicans get?

later.

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SandyH on June 26, 2009 at 11:27 AM

After watching a documentary on Michael Jackson's life a few years back, I have sympathy for him and the way he ended up. All that talent! What a shame.

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PamB on June 26, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Good morning fellow Americans.

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BobVADemocratHawk on June 26, 2009 at 11:57 AM

Power is obviously far more important than prayer in the lives of these people. The power over others is everything. Just how morally and politically corrupt can these conservative Republicans get?


8SandyH on June 26, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Sandy,

I read a really good analysis of the Republican Party and it's ultimate goal a while back.

It stated that the Presidency by itself, is not all that important------it is the COURTS they hope to pack with Reich Wing Ideologues who will convert this country back to the Puritan days, where women were treated like objects owned by men, where minorities were without rights, where Religion was the deciding factor in laws!

This is why we must never ever allow them to reach that point, no matter what it takes!

Someone mentioned that they do not see much admiration or approval of Obama on this blog, thus we must think he is not good!

I want to go on record saying the very air is different in this USA since November 4th, 2008. That the morale and HOPE once again is high, where for 8 years, there was nothing but morose and depression by all, as we watched this country fail. Obama is trying to do too much at once, but he understands what needs to be done and will keep it up. Obama is for the PEOPLE, not the corporations and Wall Street. He understands that money does not trickle down to the other classes, when giving to the wealthy. His Intelligence and character are such a pleasant contrast to the Chimp we had before. His family is one of all-american wholesomeness, not some teenage bimbos who roll around bar room floors drunk out of their minds. Foreign countries have new RESPECT for him and for this country and we are not thought of as dimwitted idiots voting in leaders like the Bushes and Cheneys.

Just as Clinton turned around the mess of 12 years of Republican era, so Obama will turn this mess around, and we must back him 100%.

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PamB on June 26, 2009 at 12:06 PM
House Democrats win key test vote on climate bill Jun 26 11:52 AM US/Eastern By H. JOSEF HEBERT and DINA CAPPIELLO Associated Press Writers

WASHINGTON (AP) - House Democrats narrowly won an important test vote Friday on groundbreaking legislation to combat global warming and usher in a new era of cleaner energy. Republican opponents said it included the largest tax increase ever.

The vote was 217-205 to send the White House-backed legislation to the full House. Thirty Democrats defected, reflecting the deep divisions over the plan. Supporters and opponents agree it mean higher energy costs, but they disagree widely on the impact on consumers.

The legislation would impose limits, for the first time, on carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas pollution from power plants, factories and refineries. It would force a shift away from coal and other fossil fuels to renewable and more efficient forms of energy.

President Barack Obama has made the measure a top priority of his first year in office. The president, along with White House aides and House Democratic leaders scrambled for the votes to assure passage. Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has pledged to pass the bill passed before lawmakers leave on their July 4 vacation.

In the Senate, which has yet to act, a major struggle is expected.

The bill's fate in the House depended on the decisions of a few dozen fence-sitting Democrats, mainly conservatives and moderates from contested districts who feared the political ramifications of siding with the White House and their leadership on the measure.

"The bill contains provisions to protect consumers, keep costs low, help sensitive industries transition to a clean energy economy and promote domestic emission reduction efforts," the White House in a statement of support for the legislation...


http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D992ETLG0&show_article=1


I see the anti-science conservatives are up in arms with their stone knives and bearskins complaining that someone is trying to create a healthier biosphere. What they fail to realize is that without a viable biosphere, all the wars they want to create will be pointless because we'll all be dead.

Will it really take an ocean showing up in their back yard to convince them? The science is in. Pollution is bad. Unnatural CO2 emissions are bad. Yet the conservatives seem to think that the air pollution of major cities such as LA, NYC, Atlanta, and others are irrelevant. And yet, we Democrats are going to save their sorry arses in spite of themselves. Elections have consequences. So just like they told us in the earlier part of the decade, get the votes to stop it or shut up.

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BobVADemocratHawk on June 26, 2009 at 12:18 PM
U.S. Stocks Drop as Savings Rate Hits 15-Year High, Oil Falls


June 26 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks fell as the highest American savings rate in 15 years spurred concern that spending will slow, while falling oil drove down energy producers. The dollar dropped after China’s central bank reiterated a call for a worldwide currency.

Exxon Mobil Corp. and Tesoro Corp. dropped as crude oil futures lost 1.5 percent to $69.19 a barrel. Eli Lilly & Co. helped lead declines by health-care companies as Senator Max Baucus said an industry overhaul may be affordable for Congress. The dollar slumped 0.7 percent against six trading partners as China sought to replace it as the global reserve currency.

The Standard & Poor’s 500 Index decreased 0.8 percent to 913.31 at 11:03 a.m. The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 69.68 points, or 0.8 percent, to 8,402.72.

“The magnitude of that savings rate may have gotten some folks by surprise,” said Philip Orlando, who helps manage $409 billion as chief equity market strategist at Federated Investors Inc. in New York. Economic and earnings growth is “potentially not going to be as robust as some were thinking. That’s weighing on stocks.”...


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aLpv3.MFL1Oc


And the sheeple awoke and realized that the fat cats were out to get them and started doing the sensible thing, saving money. So the Chinese is complaining? They want a world currency? Screw 'em. They can have it. Go ahead and build it without the U.S. Dollar and see how far you get.

Cut the Chinese off, Mr. President. We made them. We can break them. The U.S. is more than capable of being self-sufficient. We don't need to be sending billions of dollars a year to a Communist regime who has an attrocious history of human rights violations.

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BobVADemocratHawk on June 26, 2009 at 12:48 PM

PamB on June 26, 2009 at 12:06 PM

And back the POTUS we will, my friend. Well said in that post.

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BobVADemocratHawk on June 26, 2009 at 01:33 PM

Afternoon, Bob

I am enjoying watching how close Obama is working with Germany. Remember how Bush tried to make Germany and France into the enemy, because they refused to back his illegal invasion into impotent Iraq!


WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama scoffed at the idea that he should apologize to Iran's leaders for criticizing their violent crackdown on demonstrators and said Friday it was President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who must answer to his own people.

Standing next to German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Obama said the United States and Germany share "one voice" in condemning the Iranian effort to crush dissent. He said Iran's leaders cannot hide the "outrageous" behavior of clamping down violently on their people.

"We see it and we condemn it," Obama said.

Said Merkel: "We will not forget this."

Obama spoke in a joint White House appearance with Merkel after they conferred privately. The two leaders have met three times since Obama took office, allies linked by such international troubles as the war in Afghanistan and a worldwide recession.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama

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PamB on June 26, 2009 at 01:50 PM

PamB on June 26, 2009 at 01:50 PM

There are a lot of damaged European, and others, relations that the POTUS and the good people of Foggy Bottom are going to have to repair due to eight years of damage and neglect by the Bush 43 Administration. None the less, like you, I still have complete confidence in President Obama and Secretary Clinton. One can only hope that the damage caused by the cavalier attitude of former President Bush can be repaired. And while we're not agreeing on eveything with the German Chancellor, it's definitely good to see progress is being made. Hope has returned to the good people of planet Earth.

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BobVADemocratHawk on June 26, 2009 at 02:13 PM

Hey PamB, while you're here, in case you missed it Harpo made a thinly veiled threat against the POTUS last night. JONAH has already cleaned up yesterday's thread but I sent him the comment link through the DNC site in case he wants to pass it on to the POTUS' Secret Service detail. Since you have better connections at the DNC than I do, I thought you should know in case you wanted to follow up. Being a member of the loyal opposition and voicing disagreements is one thing. Threatening the POTUS is another and a felony, if memory serves.

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BobVADemocratHawk on June 26, 2009 at 02:20 PM

Bob,

The SS has files on racist, homophobic, stalking, and threatening posts already, and have said 'they are aware and watching certain blogs where this kind of thing is prevelent". I fully assume they have added this to their files. I KNOW they know who each of these individuals are, and as cyber abuse if being cracked down more and more, they are on alert.
Timcey sent me a copy of the conversation he had with the SS on a particularly sick individual on here, and was told they already had a file, with several things in it already (mail fraud?)

So rest assured, the FBI and the SS have ways to flag certain conversations and cyber crimes.

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PamB on June 26, 2009 at 02:40 PM

Look at this Bullcrap! And they do it in the name of Jesus??? Those Fundies are getting worse and worse ! and THEY want to rule this country??? Scary and sick.


Kentucky church prepares for celebration of God and gunsUnusual service has brought a mixed reaction, welcomed by gun owners and widely derided elsewhere
Buzz up!
Digg it
Ewen MacAskill in Washington guardian.co.uk, Friday 26 June 2009 17.18 BST Article historyFor tomorrow's service at his church in Kentucky, a pastor has invited his congregation to bring along their Bibles, a tin of canned food, a friend - and their guns.

Ken Pagano, who packs a pistol of his own, wants his parishioners to openly wear their firearms at the New Bethel Church in Louisville to mark the 4 July Independence anniversary and celebrate the part guns played in the making of the nation.

The unusual service has brought a mixed reaction, welcomed by many gun owners but widely derided elsewhere with fellow pastors and victims of gun crime questioning whether it is appropriate to carry weapons in a church.

In a phone interview today, Pagano said: "I do not see any contradiction. I do not see any incongruity as a Christian. It is not unbiblical. It is not illegal. And it is not unconstitutional."

Pagano, a 49-year-old former marine, acknowledged that bringing guns to church was uncommon in modern culture but said in New England in colonial times there were racks at the back of the church for rifles for militia men. America's founding fathers had a genuine belief in arms, he said: "I stand in that tradition and I am proud of it."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/26/kentucky-new-bethel-church-guns


(WOULD have to be in an international news source, so the whole world knows we are still housing some Reich Wing sickos)

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PamB on June 26, 2009 at 02:42 PM

Bob, thanks for the heads up. I do read all the comments throughout the day but don't always have time to jump into the comments and reply.

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Jonah on June 26, 2009 at 02:57 PM

PamB on June 26, 2009 at 02:42 PM

I guess Pastor Pagano's Bible doesn't include this:

Isiah 2:4 - And He shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore.

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BobVADemocratHawk on June 26, 2009 at 03:27 PM

Jonah on June 26, 2009 at 02:57 PM

Understood, sir. Thanks for all you do. As always, proceed as you see fit regarding the alleged threat to the POTUS. I'm leaving this situation up to the professionals.

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BobVADemocratHawk on June 26, 2009 at 03:29 PM


21BobVADemocratHawk on June 26, 2009 at 03:27 PM


profound, considering you use the work "Hawk" while describing yourself! ;)

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PamB on June 26, 2009 at 03:33 PM

Bob, some of those Southern Fundies really need to be locked up---their self assumed power goes right to their heads. And they suck these poor parisoners dry, telling them 'as you tithe, so shall ye prosper".

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PamB on June 26, 2009 at 03:42 PM

Good afternoon, all.

"I do not see any contradiction. I do not see any incongruity as a Christian. It is not unbiblical. It is not illegal. And it is not unconstitutional."

PamB on June 26, 2009 at 02:42 PM

....And it's not very smart. One could bring knives, flame throwers, chainsaws, and poison to church, too. But why would you? Do they do a show-and-tell thing at Sunday School on that day, too?

The colonists probably brought guns to church because of the wild animals and hostile Indians that they might have encountered along the way. So they still have a big problem with that in Kentucky?

Pam, can you please explain to me what is so macho and patriotic about packing a firearm? I could do as much damage swinging my purse at somebody's head. The thing must weight 15 pounds. I'm currently using my red/white/and blue canvass edition in preparation for the 4th.

Maybe the good women of New Bethel Church could swing their purses that day, too, to show their faith in this proud American tradition favored by women everywhere in the nation? They certainly could do a lot more damage with them than Cheney with his blunderbuss.

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SandyH on June 26, 2009 at 03:43 PM

Someone threatened the POTUS...with their purse? I didn't know sally* ever admitted to packing one. So he's finally come out of the closet? Or he keeps his gun in the purse to confuse the Secret Service?

Those teabaggers are more resourceful than we reckoned. Most of them couldn't even find the riverfront for the event they held here in St. Louis. But I thought their little teapots were cute.

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SandyH on June 26, 2009 at 03:54 PM

So Sanford's mistress is missing? He tried to murder her but couldn't pull that off any better than the Republicans could balance the budget during the last eight years?

Time for some somebodies to take a hike...with their teabags and cute little teapots.

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SandyH on June 26, 2009 at 03:58 PM

So this is who paid for Sanford's trysts with his mistress.....

Top Health Care Companies Spent More Than Half Million On Congressional Trips

Sam Stein
06-26-09 09:50 AM

Over the past eight years, some of the largest and most politically active pharmaceutical and health care companies have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on private trips for members of Congress and their staffs.

All of the trips were described as fact-finding missions, designed to put legislators and their aides in touch with the issues they handle and people they represent. But others have interpreted them far more skeptically -- as the equivalent of out-of-session lobbying, where industry executives cozy up with policy makers in fancy and exotic locales....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/26/top-health-care-companies_n_221110.html

So does Argentina have a single payer option?

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SandyH on June 26, 2009 at 04:09 PM


Senate Report: Insurers Charged 'Billions' to Consumers They Were Supposed to Pay

By Susie Madrak
Thursday Jun 25, 2009

It's really important to understand that insurers are not to be trusted, especially now that we know they've been defrauding us all along. Former CIGNA communications chief Wendell Potter (watch the complete video here) testified before the Commerce Committee yesterday and summed it up: Don't trust the insurance companies.

Health insurers have forced consumers to pay billions of dollars in medical bills that the insurers themselves should have paid, according to a report released today by the staff of the Senate Commerce Committee.

The report was part of a multi-pronged assault on the credibility of private insurers by Commerce Committee Chairman John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.). It came at a time when Rockefeller, President Obama and others are seeking to offer a public alternative to private health plans as part of broad health reform legislation. Health insurers are doing everything they can to block the public option.

At a committee hearing today, three health care specialists testified that insurers go to great lengths to avoid responsibility for sick people, use deliberately incomprehensible documents to mislead consumers about their benefits, and sell "junk" policies that fail to cover needed care. Rockefeller said he was exploring "why consumers get such a raw deal from their insurance companies."

The star witness at the hearing was a former public relations executive for major health insurers whose testimony boiled down to this: Don't trust the insurers.

"The industry and its backers are using fear tactics, as they did in 1994, to tar a transparent and accountable -- publicly accountable -- health care option," said Wendell Potter, who until early last year was vice president for corporate communications at the big insurer CIGNA...

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/senate-report-insurers-charged-billio

Republicans believe in self-regulation...and bribes and free junkets to Argentina and other exotic places to get cozy.

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SandyH on June 26, 2009 at 04:16 PM

So that's why she was having an affair with that self-righteous prude? Sanford was acting as her drug mule. Imagine that.

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SandyH on June 26, 2009 at 04:20 PM

I don't know why anyone would care what McCain thinks. He lost and is the history of the Republican party, not it's future! I don't know why anyone is interviewing or listening to him - he's history. Wait, could it be that the Republican party seems to have no future?

McCain says the House is ‘almost under an autocracy now with Speaker Pelosi.’ »
During an appearance on a local radio station in Phoenix, AZ this morning, a caller asked Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) when Republican leaders were going to emerge in Congress to “wake the American people up” to the “cap-and-tax” bill. “Why can’t we get the House members and the Senate members to just walk out on what the Democrats are doing?” the caller asked. In response, McCain said that the GOP lawmakers — particularly his House colleagues — have to stay and fight, even though they are working under Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-CA) authoritarian rule:

McCAIN: We’re fighting every single day. You don’t want to leave the arena; you want to stay in it and fight. And I guarantee you we are using every parliamentary possibility we have and I have great sympathy for my friends in the House because it’s almost under an autocracy now with Speaker Pelosi.


For the House to be an autocracy, Pelosi would have appointed herself ruler and would possess unlimited power. Even if she expressed any desire for this outcome (something she hasn’t done), then American democracy, the electoral process, and the Constitution’s system of checks and balances would prevent that from happening.

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marymac_memphis on June 26, 2009 at 04:20 PM

Afternoon all good Dems!
I do not - not for one second - think that Mark Sanford is glad that Michael Jackson is dead, but I do believe that he is very, very grateful for anything that would push him from the spotlight.

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marymac_memphis on June 26, 2009 at 04:26 PM

Who is the Democrats Liberal leader after Kennedy? I do not want an Obama choice but a Constitutional choice.

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YoungPoet on June 26, 2009 at 04:30 PM

I am like a lot of Democracts, supporting Obama but looking for a real Liberal leader.

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YoungPoet on June 26, 2009 at 04:31 PM

YoungPoet on June 26, 2009 at 04:30 PM

Senator Russ Feingold?

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SandyH on June 26, 2009 at 04:34 PM

When I look at the Republicans and Democrats of today, they are a Tory Country Club Fraternity of the "Shame Ole Same Thing. When In God Bless Made in America "We the people" need Whig birthrights of restored Civil Liberties.

They remind me of a college fraternity running the campus, like in the University of Alabama, where to be Student President you must be a Tory Social Elite member.

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YoungPoet on June 26, 2009 at 04:38 PM

PamB on June 26, 2009 at 03:33 PM

Indeed. I don't like to mix religion with politics. But in cases like this, it seemed appropriate.

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BobVADemocratHawk on June 26, 2009 at 04:40 PM

PamB on June 26, 2009 at 03:42 PM

Exactly! These huckster preachers go around telling people this mess to make them pony up more than the 10% the Lord asks so the preachers can ride around in Cadillacs and live in mansions while the poor have trouble making rent in a mobile home.

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BobVADemocratHawk on June 26, 2009 at 04:45 PM

marymac_memphis on June 26, 2009 at 04:26 PM

Hi, mary.

Not to worry. Sanford is a standing joke. After Jackson is buried, the comics (and his own Republican critics in South Carolina) will be all over him again. This guy acts weirder than Jackson but never had any talent to make up for it.

I'm thinking they both were afraid of women. That's why Sanford was so easily made a fool of by one of them. They had sex only three times in eight years? I bet he never got past first base with her...ever.

I hope she has book deal in the works with distribution slated for sometime early next fall. Sanford's wife will use it as an excuse to divorce him...after her attorney has secured most of Sanford's House and Governor's pension.

Let's hope he doesn't do the dignified thing in the meantime and instead defiantly remains in office till the Midterms. What did Rush say about him? "He could have been OUR JFK...sniffle, sniffle, cry, moan."

Not unless Sanford was willing to take a lot of steroids and have a heart transplant.

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SandyH on June 26, 2009 at 04:50 PM

marymac_memphis on June 26, 2009 at 04:20 PM

mary,

McCain is the worst actor ever. He can say that with a straight face after Tom DeLay personally created K Street and unleashed Jack Abramoff as the GOP's personal House pimp?

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SandyH on June 26, 2009 at 04:56 PM
Sears Tower to Be Revamped to Produce Most of Its Own Power


By SUSAN SAULNY
Published: June 24, 2009

CHICAGO (NYT)— The Sears Tower, that bronze-black monument that forms the 110-story peak of the skyline here and stands as the tallest office building in the Western Hemisphere, will soon have another unique feature: wind turbines sprouting from its recessed rooftops high in the sky.

The building’s owners, leasing agents and architects said Wednesday that they are literally taking environmental sustainability to new heights with a $350 million retrofit of the 1970s-era modernist building — and the turbines are only the tip of the transformation. The plan, to begin immediately, aims to reduce electricity use in the tower by 80 percent over five years through upgrades in the glass exterior, internal lighting, heating, cooling and elevator systems — and its own green power generation.

In such a huge tower, with 4.5 million square feet of office and retail space, 16,000 windows and 104 elevators, the project is bound to be one of the most substantial green renovations ever tried on one site, planners said. The Sears Tower is significantly larger than the 102-story, 2.6-million-square-foot Empire State Building, for instance, which is also undergoing renovation to reduce energy consumption.

“If we can take care of one building that size, it has a huge impact on society,” said Adrian Smith, an architect whose firm designed the Sears Tower renovation. “It is a village in and of itself."....


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/25/us/25sears.html?_r=1


Welcome to the 21st century. Through legislation, we ought to make it mandatory that commercial buildings, such as the Sears Tower, supply their own power using green technology and\or renewable energy. We have to save the money worshipping Republicans in spite of themselves.

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BobVADemocratHawk on June 26, 2009 at 05:04 PM

Good afternoon, DEMS!

Sandy, Sanford doesn't sound like he's planning on going anywhere. HE said King David didn't resign so why should he?

THAT will go over big with the Fundies, I'm sure.

Sanford: King David Didn't Resign, So Why Should I?

I give him until next Friday.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on June 26, 2009 at 05:06 PM

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SandyH on June 26, 2009 at 04:34 PM

Thank You

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YoungPoet on June 26, 2009 at 05:14 PM

Op-Ed Columnist

Not Enough Audacity

By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: June 25, 2009

When it comes to domestic policy, there are two Barack Obamas.

On one side there’s Barack the Policy Wonk, whose command of the issues — and ability to explain those issues in plain English — is a joy to behold.

But on the other side there’s Barack the Post-Partisan, who searches for common ground where none exists, and whose negotiations with himself lead to policies that are far too weak.I sometimes get the feeling that President Obama is still in shock from winning with such a large mandate. It's like he's afraid of the success he achieved and is testing it out a little at a time to make sure it's for real.

I wish Secretary Clinton would take him aside and talk to him like the mother who died before seeing her son succeed and the father he never had.

"You won in a landslide, son, you don't need anybody's approval from the other side of the aisle. You are the President...believe me I know it only too well. It was supposed to be me."

Or maybe he's taking it one issue at a time and building up speed as he goes along?

Catch you all tomorrow, everyone. I've got a late meeting to attend.

Good night, all.

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SandyH on June 26, 2009 at 05:16 PM

I finally received a paycheck after being Terminated for Poetry four years ago, I will start getting SS early retirement checks, after depleting my Keogh funds upon living the American dream, somewhere in America not on company time.

Poetry Of The American Intellect

Words reigning complexity of gray matter wordplay,
Cerebral Uni-Verse sailing silken canvassed words.
Terrestrial terrain creative combustion germination
Furrowing lines, seeded inside intellectual creation.

Weathering birth’s core inspiration among seasons aging,
Tides of emotional writing roller coaster reasons paging.
Poets legacy in questioning, never fearing treasons caging,
But spreading Phoenix wings of Truth, in beacons raging.

Flames of Lady Liberty divine enlightenment of Civil Liberties,
Where America Artmosphere bears “We the people” Liberty.
With God Bless Made in America gifted Free Speech Liberal
HeArt birthrights of Constitutional diversity in Poetry’s liberation.

America’s Terminated for Poetry of the American Intellect.

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YoungPoet on June 26, 2009 at 05:18 PM

What about Kucinich? Or Durban? Or Bernie Sanders?

In other news, the Pug Governor of CT signed a new Bill into Law today that takes the appointment of a new Senator to fill a vacancy out of the Governor's hands, and forces a Special Election.

It's time for President Obama to appoint Holy Joe as Ambassador to Israel (the ONLY job he really wants) and let the voters pick Lamont AGAIN!

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on June 26, 2009 at 05:19 PM

Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on June 26, 2009 at 05:06 PM

DPD,

Didn't King David have a bunch of concubines? Are we going to be treated to more of these stream-of-conscience confessions...and treks on the exotic side?

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SandyH on June 26, 2009 at 05:28 PM
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SandyH on June 26, 2009 at 05:31 PM

I think it was Rudy and Newt with the slew of concubines.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on June 26, 2009 at 05:39 PM
Obama Scoffs at Ahmadinejad's Demand for Apology


By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: June 26, 2009


WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Barack Obama's criticism of Iran escalated Friday into an unusually personal war of words. To Iranian
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's demand he apologize for meddling, Obama shot back that the regime should ''think carefully'' about
answers owed to protesters it has arrested, bludgeoned and killed.

''The violence perpetrated against them is outrageous,'' Obama said. ''We see it and we condemn it.''

The president spoke at an East Room news conference capping his third set of meetings with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, one of several European leaders who spoke out more forcefully, more quickly than Obama on the unrest in Iran that followed the disputed June 12
elections...


Allow me to help you with this one, Mr. President. Hey Mahmoud, you want an apology? Fu*k you!

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BobVADemocratHawk on June 26, 2009 at 05:52 PM

White House Drafts Executive Order to Hold Detainees Indefinitely


The war is on for the Constitution is om, it seems that President Obama is the Shame Ole Same Thing Bush Administration.

It is like Iran, where "We the people" must stand up for Freedom and Democracy.

I think that the Democratic Party has turned into a Republican "At Will" White House.


I am resigning as an Tory Obama Democrat of the Shame Ole Thing Same Bush agenda White redefinitions.

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YoungPoet on June 26, 2009 at 06:45 PM

It looks like Washington's White House is working against Freedom and Democracy just like the Iranian President is.

President Obams is going to have a Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama legacy.

It seems like Carter, Obams will be a one term President. He will never become a Lincoln. or a Kennedy, and maybe a 3/4 Reagan. He is trying to be a star while undermining the Constitution.

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YoungPoet on June 26, 2009 at 06:58 PM

I see the trolls are coming out of the woodwork now that they think everyone at DNC HQ has gone home for the weekend. Take a good long look, America. This is what the DHS report referred to as right-wing extremists and radicals. These are the homegrown terrorists. These are the precursors of the next Timothy McVeigh or James von Brunn, the Holocaust Museum alleged killer. Their comments speak for themselves. Be wary of them. Report any threats against the POTUS, or any other elected or appointed officials to your local Secret Service office.

http://www.secretservice.gov/contact.shtml

Good night fellow Americans. Keep the Faith and keep the faith. Yes we can, yes we will, and yes we did!

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BobVADemocratHawk on June 26, 2009 at 07:08 PM

I cannot be a Obama Democrat like Bill Moyer, I have to agree Obama is a Fashion Model Star, just like Palin is, rather than a person working for Constitutional solutions, he becomes this Iranian autocratic image.

He promises are failing like Washington Katrina Bush responses.

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YoungPoet on June 26, 2009 at 07:11 PM

YoungPoet on June 26, 2009 at 06:58 PM

President Obama is a far cry from the likes of the Iranian president. Perhaps you'd like to revise and extend your remarks. If you wouldn't then I'd recommend a trip to Tehran for you so you can see the difference first hand as opposed to going off on some rambling tirade that has little to no basis in reality.

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BobVADemocratHawk on June 26, 2009 at 07:12 PM

Hello fine Dems

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Chicago on June 26, 2009 at 07:20 PM

Free Speech is a misnomer, that even America, abuses daily.
Patriot Act demanding Abu Ghraib National Security secrecy,
Military Tribunal Guantanamo denied civilian due process,
America Scales of InJustice into the Dark Ages of Inquisition.
Upon White House lifetime without due process Indefinite Detention
Where labeling someone terrorist, they lose their human rights
Where Iran and China claims Democracy terrorists
And an American claims a Moslem religion terrorists
Where the whole world is labeled without the Scales of Justice

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YoungPoet on June 26, 2009 at 07:24 PM

61BobVADemocratHawk on June 26, 2009 at 07:12 PM

Absolutely right, Bob. Some people seem to have short memories. They forget how inept Bush/Cheney were. Katrina, Iraq, the economy, K-street scandal, Cheney's energy task force, tax breaks for the top 1%, etc. They must have either forgotten how bad Bush/Cheney were, OR they expect Obama to FIX it all over night. And comparing Obama to the Iranian president, that's just ludicrous.

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Chicago on June 26, 2009 at 07:26 PM

That loser hannity has his head up his ass.

He apparently spent the entire show today bitching about the Clean Energy Bill and how it will destroy America. He sounds more shrill every day, yet the asshole that owns faux news keeps him on TV. I just pray that this old bastard rots in hell when he meets his maker. I can't think of a more deserving person.

He is the original Chicken Little Pecker Hawk and fits the description to a "T".

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Johne on June 26, 2009 at 08:31 PM

Oh shut up Harpo, you stupid fool.

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Chicago on June 26, 2009 at 09:27 PM

69Cleveland on June 26, 2009 at 09:26 PM

Anybody know the difference between Cleveland and a stinking pile of dog shit?...

Don't feel bad. Most people can't tell them apart.

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Chicago on June 26, 2009 at 09:32 PM

Oh shut up Harpo, you stupid fool.

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Chicago on June 26, 2009 at 09:33 PM

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A sharply divided House of Representatives narrowly passed a White House-backed climate change bill Friday after hours of cajoling and arm-twisting by Democratic leaders among members worried about the legislation's potential economic and political fallout.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/26/house.energy/index.html

We don't need no stinking republicans.

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Chicago on June 26, 2009 at 09:39 PM

Evening Chicago,

Yeah! Screw the party of NO! They must listen to Chicken Little Pecker Hawk. "The sky is falling." "The sky is falling". HAHAHA. It's going to fall on them!

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Johne on June 26, 2009 at 09:48 PM

Chicago,

The trolls don't know shit from shinola. That's why they fail at everything they do. I think they take pride in failure.

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Johne on June 26, 2009 at 09:51 PM

Chicago,

Thom Hartman recommended this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhpUG4apgrE

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Johne on June 26, 2009 at 09:58 PM

raygun was a f**king asshat. hannity plays him every day and I am sick of listening to the old prick. He didn't know shit from shinola and was proud of it. All he knew how to do is play with himselff. The destruction of California started under his watch in 1967 and the destruction of America started under his watch in 1981.

Give it a rest hannity. Kissing his ass is no longer an option.

'

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Johne on June 26, 2009 at 10:18 PM

I'll bet the fascist republican party is proud that raygun destroyed America. I wonder which fascist government they represent.

F**K THE PARTY OF NO!!!

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Johne on June 26, 2009 at 10:23 PM

JOhne,
Good to see you.
Yeah, the party of no still doesn't get it.
I hope they continue on their present path through the next election. Their numbers are down to where only complete idiots are still supporting them. (pssst... Harpo, that would be you, you stupid idiot).

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Chicago on June 26, 2009 at 10:38 PM

(CNN) -- Jenny Sanford said Thursday that her husband Mark Sanford's political career is "not a concern of mine" and that she'd be just fine -- regardless of whether their marriage survives.

She would not speculate whether her husband would resign as South Carolina governor.

"His career is not a concern of mine," she told reporters as she departed the family's vacation home in Sullivan's Island, South Carolina. "He's going to have to worry about that. I'm worried about my family and the character of my children."

She added that she would be fine, with or without her husband.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/25/south.carolina.sanford.wife/index.html

She don't need no stinking republicans either. Do the right thing, dump his ass.

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Chicago on June 26, 2009 at 10:42 PM

chicago,

The clean energy bill just barely passed the House with NO fascist pig votes as expected and with some Democrats voting against it. Apparently there are stupid asshole Democrats too. They apparently don't get it.

The neotards keep saying that it will be a tax on electric ratepayers, blah blah blah. I personally think this is utter bullshit.

It increases in the cost of electricity produced by coal, gas, diesel and nuclear. This will be totally offset by increases in the availability of green energy created by the 2.5 million jobs.

The asshole chicken little pecker hawks like hannity just don't get it because they are stupid bastards who don't know shit from shinola.

The same assholes warned us that if we don't allow smoking in restaurants it will drive them out of business and they will raise prices and blah blah blah.

Well, lo and behold, the restaurants are doing just fine thank you. That makes these neotard bastard, tiny-peckered jerkoffs f**king liars. hannity is one of their leaders and is also a tiny-peckered little prick.

I am so sick of these holier than thou neotards. They are nothing but a bunch of raygun wannabe's who no doubt have peckers the size of a pencil and spend their lives blustering about everything in order to disguise their gross inadequacy. I think that is why they are pedophiles and chase skirts. THEY ARE INADEQUATE IN THE SEXUAL ORGAN DEPARTMENT AND EVERYONE ELSE PAYS FOR THEIR INADEQUACY. F**K THEM ALL!!!!!

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Johne on June 26, 2009 at 10:53 PM

Johne,
We've seen this crap from the idiot republicans before. Remember what they said about the 1993 deficit reduction act? They claimed it would create a recession. They claimed it would cost jobs. They claimed it was going to be a disaster for this country. What really happened? It lead to a record expansion resulting in a SURPLUS!. All those idiots where wrong then. The republicans are still listening to those SAME idiots. Gingrich, Limpballs, and McLame.

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Chicago on June 26, 2009 at 10:58 PM

CNN) -- The Republican Party is in need of a leader and boost in its self-esteem, a new poll suggests.
A new poll indicates there is no clear leader of the Republican Party.
Nearly half (47 percent) of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents surveyed in a USA Today/Gallup Poll failed to come up with a single name when asked who is the party's spokesperson.

Of the names that were mentioned, radio host Rush Limbaugh and former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich received the most nods. Each was named by 10 percent of Republicans as the voice of their party.

Former Vice President Dick Cheney was close behind, at 9 percent.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/10/republican.party.poll/index.html

Without Cheney, it appears the repelican party is "Dick-less".

Why doesn't Dick run for president. He could have Sarah as his VP pick as long as someone helps her buy some cloths.

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Chicago on June 26, 2009 at 11:07 PM

Mrs. Sanford looked so sad in a picture I saw yesterday. I could see it in her eyes.

You know what a good retaliation would be, she should make fun of his manhood to the press. She could say:

"Screw him, I deserve better than a pissant like that needle-dick SOB".

"I can do so much better than that limp dick SOB."

"He needs to grow up."

She should run for governor of South Carolina against her husband. That would be a blast.

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Johne on June 26, 2009 at 11:08 PM

ann coldsore could run as dickheads running mate.

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Johne on June 26, 2009 at 11:12 PM

WASHINGTON (CNN) — General David Petraeus, head of the U.S. Central Command, has asked a pro-military group with extensive public ties to conservative leaders to remove references to him from its Web site because they incorrectly appear to show Petraeus endorsing the group’s political stances, his aides told CNN Friday.
http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2009/06/26/petraeus-distances-himself-from-political-groups-event/

Petraeus don't need no stinking repelicans either.
Unemployment is going to go up when all these republican idiots have to go looking for a job. They'll blame that on the Democrats too.

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Chicago on June 26, 2009 at 11:13 PM

The republican party will go down in history as the party that destroyed the earth's atmosphere by their intransigence and utter stupidity.

The only trouble is that there won't be anyone around who gives a damn since we will all be dead.

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Johne on June 26, 2009 at 11:16 PM

ann coldsore could run as dickheads running mate.

87Johne on June 26, 2009 at 11:12 PM

JOhne
I think he would want someone WITHOUT an adams apple larger than his.

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Chicago on June 26, 2009 at 11:17 PM

Johne,
I think the repelicans thought that "stupid" was a commodity they could trade on the open market. So they cornered the market and have generally created a monopoly. Today, they OWN stupid. And their best sales people are out there pitching it every day; Limbaugh, Gingrich, Boner...
But most people aren't buyin' it.

79
Chicago on June 26, 2009 at 11:27 PM

When Adolf Hitler was holed up in his bunker towards the end of WWII, he gave the order to slash and burn everything in the path of the Allies. He said that the German people didn't deserve to live and that he wanted to take them down with him.

Doesn't this sound like the actions of the repbulican party? If they can't retain power, they will stamp their feet, throw themselves to the floor, hold their breath and turn blue. They will also deny the entire world a planet to live on. That will teach those liberals. "Oh, my kids will die too? "So what, we will have some collateral damage which is normal". "Jesus will watch over us".

Nazi Party = Republican party.

When the Germans started the invasion of Russia, they slashed and burned every town, destroyed all crops, killed all Jews and gypsies and killed all livestock. How stupid was that? As soon as they bogged down just short of Moscow, they were faced with the coldest winter in years. The roads were so bad that they couldn't get anything to the troops so they either starved to death of froze to death. Hitler refused to send them winter clothing.

This is the way America is headed. The republicans are all for slashing and burning America by sending all our jobs overseas, making our money worthless, closing our farms because they don't like "handouts" to farmers, moving all our factories overseas, stealing all our money and give it to wall street, and selling everything to the Chinese.

What's left?

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Johne on June 26, 2009 at 11:32 PM

As a result of what happened to the German Army in Russia, Dwight Eisenhower insisted on a very strong supply situation when he planned the D-Day landings.

After Dwight Eisenhower became president, he pushed through the Interstate Highway System. When he was a young officer before WWII, he led a military convoy from the east coast to the west coast. He saw the stunning disrepair and lack of proper interstate highways. Having been in charge of the occupation of Germany, he saw the fantastic Autobahns and how great they were. He resolved to introduce the Autobahn to the US.

This is something that we could never get past the party of NO today. Eisenhower was a great president. It is exeedingly unfortunate that he was a republican. Do you believe that nixon was his vice president. Yuk! That was very poor judgment on his part.

81
Johne on June 26, 2009 at 11:51 PM

Oh shut up, Cleveland, you stupid idiot.

82
Chicago on June 27, 2009 at 12:07 AM

Oh shut up, Cleveland, you stupid idiot.

83
Chicago on June 27, 2009 at 12:52 AM

Good morning fellow Americans.

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BobVADemocratHawk on June 27, 2009 at 06:27 AM

Congratulations to Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Hoyer on getting the Climate Change legislation passed. Now it's up to Marjority Leader Reid (D-NV) in the Senate to get something passed so we can get to a conference committee. We have the majority. We will save the anti-science Republicans whether they like it or not.

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BobVADemocratHawk on June 27, 2009 at 06:36 AM

Good morning, Bob.

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Esmeralda on June 27, 2009 at 07:01 AM

By hanging my laundry on the line, I am able to keep my electric bill under $40. a month. The laundry smells fresh too. The money I save on electric costs allows me to purchase more clothes! hahaha


and as an added bonus, it sets the undesirables off in a tizzy when they read about it here. snicker

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Esmeralda on June 27, 2009 at 07:07 AM

Anybody know the difference between Cleveland and a stinking pile of dog shit?...

Don't feel bad. Most people can't tell them apart.

72Chicago on June 26, 2009 at 09:32 PM

I can shovel the shit over the hill, but limpnoodle still remains?

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Esmeralda on June 27, 2009 at 07:10 AM

Harpo-TheWatchman on June 26, 2009 at 09:31 PM

Nice try in walking back that post where you threatened the POTUS. One of two things will happen. The FBI and\or Secret Service will show up on your doorstep to have a little chat reminding you that making veiled threats against the POTUS, such as stating you're going to "stop" the POTUS and [Conservatives like you] do not "come in peace", is illegal, at best. That post speaks for itself as does your, and your compatriot's, long history of low-brow rants here. When compiled, it will paint a picture of an individual who is one more perceived transgression away from emulating Timothy McVeigh, James von Brunn, or the nut in Pittsburgh, PA who thought President Obama was going to outlaw handguns and shot up three or four Pittsburg police officers.

Or federal law enforcement will recognize you as a tired, old man from a dark era of American history where anyone who wasn't white, Christian, and wealthy were second class citizens, or worse. Y'all had your chance. The page has turned.

Your racist tendencies will not be tolerated. Your hate speech will not be tolerated. Your attempts at turning America into a theocracy will not be tolerated. A new era has begun. Deal with it or find the votes to turn the clock back. I doubt you can do either. This is the 21st century.

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BobVADemocratHawk on June 27, 2009 at 07:30 AM

Esmeralda on June 27, 2009 at 07:01 AM

Good morning, Esme. Good to see you again. How are things in the great state of OH?

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BobVADemocratHawk on June 27, 2009 at 07:31 AM
India plans hot chilli grenades


Indian defence scientists are planning to put one of the world's hottest chilli powders into hand grenades.

They say the devices will be used to control rioters and in counter-insurgency operations.

Researchers say the idea is to replace explosives in small hand grenades with a certain variety of red chilli to immobilise people without killing them.

The chilli, known as Bhut Jolokia, is said to be 1,000 times hotter than commonly used kitchen chilli.

Scientists at India's Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) are quoted as saying the potent chilli will be used as a food additive for troops operating in cold conditions.

And the powder will also be spread on the fences around army barracks in the hope the strong smell will keep out animals.

Other forms of pepper spray are commonly used for crowd control in many parts of the world.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/8119591.stm

Published: 2009/06/25 17:54:10 GMT

© BBC MMIX

This sounds like a good idea. Anything is better than curry.

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BobVADemocratHawk on June 27, 2009 at 07:58 AM

Morning Bob and Essie,

92
Johne on June 27, 2009 at 07:58 AM

Johne on June 27, 2009 at 07:58 AM

Good morning, Johne.

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BobVADemocratHawk on June 27, 2009 at 08:01 AM

Our Senator Tom Udall is coming to our city to talk with his constituents and ask our opinions about different bills. He sent me a personal email telling me that he was going to be here.

He votes progressive on everything. Our other Senator Bingaman had to have his arm twisted to give us a public option on health care but it is reported that he finally agreed.

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Johne on June 27, 2009 at 08:01 AM

Things are looking up. Gasoline is coming down and the Obama administration is studying regulations to stop the commodity trading scam that sent gasoline prices so high last summer. We just saw a run up in prices for that same reason. GREED AND SELFISHNESS. These run ups are brought to us by the same people who stole our 401k's and IRA's. And of course, the talking religious freak radio neotards keep telling their moron followers that "Obama" will take away their 401k's and IRA's.

I see where ms. madeoff was allowed to keep a million and a half dollars of our money and probably one of the multi-million dollar apartments. What a crock. The judge should have stripped her of every dime. She has kids, she can live with them. Besides, madeoff probably gave them millions just before he was arrested.
This judge is too soft.

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Johne on June 27, 2009 at 08:09 AM

Have a good weekend fellow Americans. Keep the Faith and keep the faith. Yes we can, yes we will, and yes we did!

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BobVADemocratHawk on June 27, 2009 at 08:32 AM

I see where madeoff is whining in jail now. "My sentence is too long and I am going to faint, oh my."

97
Johne on June 27, 2009 at 08:34 AM

Good morning, all.

US announces shift in Afghanistan drug policy

By NICOLE WINFIELD, Associated Press Writer

TRIESTE, Italy – The United States has announced a new drug policy for opium-rich Afghanistan, saying it was phasing out funding for eradication programs while significantly increasing its funding for alternate crop and drug interdiction efforts.

The U.S. envoy for Afghanistan, Richard Holbrooke, told The Associated Press on Saturday that eradication programs weren't working and were only driving farmers into the hands of the Taliban.

"Eradication is a waste of money," Holbrooke said on the sidelines of a Group of Eight foreign ministers' meeting on Afghanistan, during which he briefed regional representatives on the new policy.

The G-8 ministers "strongly appreciated" the shift, which also includes an increase in annual U.S. funding for agricultural development from a few million dollars to a few hundred million dollars, said Foreign Minister Franco Frattini of Italy, the current G-8 president.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090627/ap_on_re_eu/eu_italy_us_afghanistan

Another incompetent Bush/Cheney policy bites the dust.

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SandyH on June 27, 2009 at 10:13 AM

BobVADemocratHawk on June 27, 2009 at 06:36 AM

Bob,

Yes, we can.

We're going to wear down the naysayers or go around them.

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SandyH on June 27, 2009 at 10:15 AM

as an added bonus, it sets the undesirables off in a tizzy when they read about it here. snicker

Esmeralda on June 27, 2009 at 07:07 AM

It does sort of hang them out to dry, doesn't it?

I hang my laundry from spring to fall most of the time, too. My husband almost tore out the poles a few years ago because he hated ducking under the lines to cut the grass. I told him to leave them up unless he wanted to do the clothes as well.

Those poles are proudly holding my topsey turvey tomato plants and some sheets this morning. I'm sure my well-off Republican neighbors must think it looks way too much like a third-world country to their caviar tastes.

Well, that's what they get for giving welfare to the wealthy and the rest of us the TARP. I'm getting more green all the time and proud of it. Yes, we can.

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SandyH on June 27, 2009 at 10:25 AM

BobVADemocratHawk on June 27, 2009 at 07:58 AM

OMG, even the military industrial complex world-wide is going green. It must be making Rumsfeld turn green as well.

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SandyH on June 27, 2009 at 10:28 AM

Johne on June 27, 2009 at 08:01 AM

Hi, Johne,

My Republican Congressmen held a telephone town hall meeting yesterday. I've sent a few obscene e-mails to him in the past, so of course he thinks I'm one of this biggest supporters and hooks me up with this stupid propaganda device?

Anyways, I decided to listen to the taped recording to see what this jerk was planning. He is spewing the usual deficit and tax hike fears as well as the "Christian" evils of caring for the sick with a single-payer plan when he feels that they can die on the streets more easily (and cheaply) with the current "world's best health care system".

Little does he know, but I and a lot of other St. Louis County progressives have joined a Dem group over in the next county (his stronghold) and we're already busy getting things underway to undermine this Fundie and the rest of his unholy alliance.

One of his chief allies is that Republican woman State Senator (whom Olbermann nominated for worst person in the world last week) who thinks poor children shouldn't be fed school lunches in the summer because "hunger is a great motivator."

This is the same woman that my brother-in-law almost choked once when she came around the subdivision canvassing with her hate message from heaven a few years ago. She dresses in the same slutty stewardess fundie outfits as Palin.

It's time to send these incompetents back to their church basements and the devil. And, yes we can do it this time around. A lot of middle class families are really hurting and need those food programs for their families in this Second Great GOP Depression.

And where did this woman ever get that Jesus ever said that hunger is a great motivator? Satan, get away from me.

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SandyH on June 27, 2009 at 10:51 AM

Johne on June 27, 2009 at 08:09 AM

The short-term memory problems being experienced by most Republicans these days have become alarming. Someone needs to see that they retire to a rehab center asap, so they can fully contemplate how badly the Reagan Revolution failed them and the country.

There must be a ten step program. Didn't Arianna Huffington and Ed Scultz go through one after the 2000 election?

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SandyH on June 27, 2009 at 10:58 AM

Catch you all later. It's the weekend and my hubbie doesn't have to work overtime for a change.

bbl.

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SandyH on June 27, 2009 at 11:01 AM

Morning. Do the Democrats ever hold strategy meetings prior to tackling big legislation like health care? Because they really suck at it.

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Oilfieldguy on June 27, 2009 at 12:41 PM


Afternoon all good Dems,

It is only sanford telling us it is a woman in Argentina. What if this "woman" turns out to be a man. This would blow the lid off the republic party for good. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Isn't it strange that limpballs was gone from the air during the time sanford was in Argentina? Then he shows up on the radio the day after sanford returns.

Inquiring minds want to know the answer.

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Johne on June 27, 2009 at 01:49 PM


Afternoon Dems......


just a hit and run as usual. So much to do these day, so little hours.

Just when you think the little girlie trolls cannot get much shriller, Wow---they surprise you with their sound and fury, signifying nothing!


YOU ARE NOT a Conservative, Tommy boy! True Conservatives condemned Bush and his spending and his actions! True conservatives saw through what he was doing. True conservatives either did not vote, or voted for Obama, in order for McCain not to get in and continue the fiscal mess.

YOU, my aging, balding plump friend, are a Reich Wing Extremist! The kind that lock stepped, and goose marched with Hitler years ago. You hate social programs, yet every day you yourself enjoy everything Democrats gave you in this country. You MEAN you hate social programs for the lower income, people of color, don't you? You hate having to spend a dollar on the poor, the elderly (except your own grandparents and parents), hungry Children (but a poor woman better not abort, but don't ask you to help feed and clothe the kid). The disabled and the Veterans can kiss your ass----this is a sink or swim society according to your view of the world. Everybody responsible for themselves !


You are a loser, Thomass. You and your peers come here with your arrogance, your pretend religion, your greedy greasy wallet, and try and act superior, while all the time, you merely show how very low intelligence, lack of any sense of humor, any education, any understanding or empathy of human nature. You want WARs, but you would never fight in one. Cowardice is one of your character traits.

So do us a favor, and don't try and preach to us that you somehow are better than us. YOU have a long climb to even lick the boots of any one of the Dems here.

There is a bumper sticker says" When there is Love in the Home, there is Joy in the Heart'! Your very being here, where you are an unwelcome presence, shows what kind of home, what kind of heart you have !


back later Dems.....

Staining some wooden doors today, while the rain is holding off.

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PamB on June 27, 2009 at 02:20 PM

Conservatives are one of the following:

PEDOPHILE

PHILANDERER

ADULTERER

HOMOSEXUAL

CRIMINAL

Why are more conservatives one of the above than any other group. Is it that they are brain dead or brain washed? Perhaps they are just ignoramuses. Their rich daddies gave big donations to ivy league schools which gives their kids an "education" for just breathing. They apparently don't have to struggle, take out loans or even attend classes and take tests. They receive an automatic passing grade.

Talk about dishonable creeps. Unfortunately our once great nation has been taken over by these lazy f**ks.

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Johne on June 27, 2009 at 03:18 PM

Will some one tell me why Farrah Fawcett went to Germany for cancer if we have the best care?

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Guion on June 27, 2009 at 03:24 PM

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Guion on June 27, 2009 at 03:24 PM

Afternoon Guion,

Farrah's doctor didn't have an answer either. He simply said "we can do that treatment too". So why didn't they?

We could ask the neotards like hannity and limpballs. I suspect it is cost. If one has money, they get the best care. The rest of us bother them and the neotards want us to go away and die.

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Johne on June 27, 2009 at 03:37 PM

We will get single payer health care! The neotards are worried that we will raise their taxes to get it.

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Johne on June 27, 2009 at 03:40 PM

Basically they are trying their damnedest to ram the most far-reaching changes to American life as possible in the shortest amount of time.

The problem is that is what they are not doing. The military knows how to do this with their civilian overloards. They always come in with three plans: a) Complete surrender b) Completely nuke there ass c)the real plan

The health care debate should've been a) status quo b) single payer everybody in c) public option

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Oilfieldguy on June 27, 2009 at 06:50 PM

This blog is glitchy. When I refresh, several recent comments vanish, although with some that is not entirely a bad thing.

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Oilfieldguy on June 27, 2009 at 06:59 PM

Good evening fellow Democrats.

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peaceman on June 27, 2009 at 07:09 PM

Oh shut up Harpo, you stupid fool.

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Chicago on June 27, 2009 at 07:53 PM

Hello fine Dems.

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Chicago on June 27, 2009 at 07:54 PM

Good evening, all.

Oilfieldguy on June 27, 2009 at 06:50 PM

There isn't three alternatives. There is only one. We have to solve this problem asap before it destroys the economic standing and moral compass of this country. We are literally sinking into a third world banana republic.

Everyone has to be covered, costs must be contained, and the rich have to start paying taxes in proportion to the benefits that they have enjoyed during the last 35 years of unprecedented greed, profits, and graft.

That is the only answer. We must overcome or we perish.

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SandyH on June 27, 2009 at 07:55 PM

The private "for profit" health insurance companies are scared to death of the "public option" because they know they can't compete. They send their employees on expensive trips to exotic places. They pay their CEO's enormous sums. They make huge profits. The private companies don't want to give up all their benefits that are obtained on the backs of the average American.

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Chicago on June 27, 2009 at 07:59 PM

Hello Sandy. Good to see you.

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Chicago on June 27, 2009 at 08:02 PM

Sandy,
I think we do have options. And I think it is a good choice to have a "public option", amongst others. Let the American people decide. I believe it should be a "non-starter" to not include the public option. Not having a public option would simply force more money into the hands of the "for profit" health insurance companies. And forcing everyone into the public option does not seem right either. Having a public option means they will compete. Eventually, I think the public option will prove to be the most efficient. But competing them means the most efficient will win out.
I do believe that everyone must have health care. Otherwise, those "healthy 25 yr. olds that the idiot troll spoke of will go to an emergency room when they do have a problem, and WE end up paying for them.

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Chicago on June 27, 2009 at 08:12 PM

This country works best when we all work together. We put a man on the moon. We defeated the Germans in the world war. We may even survive the aftershocks of the Bush/Cheney disaster administration. Together, our tax dollars and hard work built the highway system. If we pool our money and our efforts, we can establish a health care system to provide health care for all.
We just have to keep the greedy, elitist, republicans from de-railing the effort. But we don't need their votes. Pass it without them.

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Chicago on June 27, 2009 at 08:20 PM

Krauthammer finily tells the truth "Mikhail Gorbachev and Yeltisin both began as orthodox party regulars. They subequently evolved together into reformers. Then come the revolution. Gorbachev could not shake himself from the system. Yeltsin rose up and engineered its destruction." Wow it was not Reagan that did it.

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Guion on June 27, 2009 at 08:26 PM

Calling for “real reform and not rhetoric,” the group denounced AHIP’s “astroturf” health care reform campaign orchestrated by private, for-profit health insurance executives that is masquerading as a grassroots initiative.

Rome told the crowd that during the past five years, health insurance company profits have soared by 1,000 percent while health care premiums for working families have risen five times faster than wages.
http://blog.aflcio.org/2009/03/10/health-insurance-industry-gets-the-profits-patients-get-the-shaft/

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Chicago on June 27, 2009 at 08:37 PM

If I were a Republican, I'd be ready to slit my wrists at the prospect of former Columbia/HCA Healthcare CEO Rick Scott heading the conservative response to Obama's health reform effort. This is like liberals getting Franklin Raines to run their economic messaging or Bush tasking Donald Rumsfeld with a comprehensive defense of his administration's legacy.

In the 90s, HCA was the largest for-profit hospital company in America. As Forbes wrote, "it bought hospitals by the bucketful and promised to squeeze blood from each one." More than any other single company, it was responsible for the cruelty that turned the public against managed care. Indeed, remember when audiences began spontaneously clapping for Helen Hunt's anti-HMO rant in As Good As It Gets? That was the sort of ruthless cost-cutting pioneered by HCA they were shouting down. If Scott didn't exist, health reformers would have to invent him.

But it turned out that HCA's wild profitability wasn't all efficiencies. A seven-year federal investigation uncovered widespread fraud. According to Forbes, HCA has "increased Medicare billings by exaggerating the seriousness of the illnesses they were treating. It also granted doctors partnerships in company hospitals as a kickback for the doctors referring patients to HCA. In addition, it gave doctors 'loans' that were never expected to be paid back, free rent, free office furniture, and free drugs from hospital pharmacies."

When all was said and done, HCA agreed to pay the government $1.7 billion. It was the largest fraud settlement in U.S. history. Richard Scott, the CEO, was forced to resign in shame.

And now, he's back.

Conservatives for Patients Rights is a multimillion dollar initiative that plans to stand athwart health reform and yell, "stop!" They've hired the same PR firm that sold the Swift Boat veterans for Truth. Their first ads will come this week on conservative talk shows and cable news. Their media blitz has already started. Today, Scott was profiled by The Politico. “If we have more government involvement we’re going to have dramatically worse health care,” he told said.

So, to recap: The first major health care group fielded in opposition to Obama's initiative comes from a for-profit hospital executive who resigned amidst the largest fraud case in United States history and means to sell an anti-government message using the same PR firm that helped the Swift Boat veterans.

There's an old saying: It is good to be lucky in your friends. But it is even better to be lucky in your enemies. Health reform, it would seem, is lucky in its enemies.
http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/ezraklein_archive?month=03&year=2009&base_name=health_reformers_meet_their_en

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Chicago on June 27, 2009 at 08:46 PM


United Health Group profits $4.159Billion (up 26%)
Wellpoint profits $3.095 Billion (up 26%)
Aetna profits $1.702 Billion (up 4%)
Humana profits $487 Million (up 58%)
Cigna profits $1.155 Billion (down 29%)

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2007/industries/Health_Care_Insurance_Managed_Care/1.html

It goes on and on. Health Insurance Company Profits are way up. The Health Insurance companies are making Billions. They are "the house" at the black jack table. And we are forced to gamble on our health. Everyone knows the "the house" always wins in the long run. They set the odds. It's time to walk away from that table.

The doctors and nurses aren't the ones with soaring profits. It's the "middle man", the health insurance companies. Let's get rid of them.

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Chicago on June 27, 2009 at 09:13 PM

Oh shut up Harpo, you stupid fool.

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Chicago on June 27, 2009 at 10:46 PM

Oh shut up Harpo, you stupid fool.

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Chicago on June 27, 2009 at 10:51 PM

Evening all good Dems,

This blog is glitchy. When I refresh, several recent comments vanish, although with some that is not entirely a bad thing.
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Oilfieldguy on June 27, 2009 at 06:59 PM

Click "Preview".

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Johne on June 27, 2009 at 10:53 PM

Hello Johne,

Good to see you.

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Chicago on June 27, 2009 at 10:55 PM

Chicago,

The ceo of national health gave himself a salary of $1.7 billion. What can any one person do with so much of our money. This guy is a greedy SOB and I suspect the ceo's of the 1,300 health insurance companies in the US give themselves similar excess.

THIS IS BULLSHIT AND IT MUST BE ENDED. HOW ON EARTH ONE PERSON CAN, IN ALL CONSCIENCE, RIP OFF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IS DOWNRIGHT CRIMINAL. TALK ABOUT UNMITIGATED GREED. THAT'S THE FACE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

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Johne on June 27, 2009 at 10:58 PM

Oh shut up Harpo, you stupid fool. We aren't fooled by your stupid stories about Candada's health care.

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Chicago on June 27, 2009 at 11:01 PM

The hannity talking points are alive and well. The stupids spout them off non-stop. hannity keeps lying about the health care systems of other countries. How the hell would dumb shit hannity know anything about medicine. The US is 37 in the world in medical outcomes.s

HANNITY IS A LYING PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Johne on June 27, 2009 at 11:05 PM

163Johne on June 27, 2009 at 10:58 PM

Johne,
That is exactly the problem with our health care system today. We are all being ripped off by the greedy and corrupt. They are buying our publicn officials. And the stupid republican dupes like Harpo think it is great if Americans are dying because they cannot afford health care. As long as the health care companies increase their profits.
Republicans are stupid idiots.

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Chicago on June 27, 2009 at 11:07 PM

Are all conservatives utter assholes?

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Johne on June 27, 2009 at 11:12 PM

Oh shut up Harpo, you stupid idiot. YOu don't know squat about health care.
Go play with your dolls, you fool.

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Chicago on June 27, 2009 at 11:15 PM

Are all conservatives utter assholes?
168Johne on June 27, 2009 at 11:12 PM

Yes

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Chicago on June 27, 2009 at 11:17 PM

Chicago,

I can't think of a more greedy bunch of bastards that the conservatives unless we look to wall street. We need to come up with a new name for these greedy bastards.

The Nazi's were angels and philanthropists compared to these "people?"

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Johne on June 27, 2009 at 11:17 PM

Buh ahahahahahah.
Harpo thinks he can drudge through some idiotic rightwing nutjob web sites and make himself an expert on health care.
What a complete idiot.

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Chicago on June 27, 2009 at 11:19 PM

Johne,
I think the next order of business needs to be fixing the health care system. Establishing a "public option" would seem to be the best approach. Let the American people decide which health plan they want. The private health insurance companies are scared to death of the public option. And it is just for the reason you mentioned above; the huge profits and CEO salaries. The private companies won't be able to compete.

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Chicago on June 27, 2009 at 11:25 PM

Oh shut up Harpo, you stupid fool.

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Chicago on June 27, 2009 at 11:30 PM

Hi, Chicago.

Sorry I just stopped by earlier and didn't see your post.

The canary in the mine is dying. It’s been slowly expiring ever since skimming profits off the top became more important than re-investment in this country.

The Republicans coined phrases like shareholder return, productivity, and globalization to divert attention from what they were really doing...killing the core assets and equity of everything in this nation from our corporations to our infrastructure. The GOP totally sold out to foreign interests and their own greed.

Health care is our last stand. If we don't put the focus back on creating a quality product with built in cost savings, we will end up with nothing. We are already at the point where too many Americans do not have coverage and those that do can't afford it any longer.

Health care providers and their patients have become slaves to middle men with the quality of care becoming stretched thin and harder to get. The health care industrial complex is like the Iraqi war profiteers on steroids.

The only term that really applies to the Republicans' stance on this issue is incompetence. It will destroy what little is left of our economy if they are not stopped. We have to stand up to them. I'd rather we had no bill at all if the cost savings and any new cash infusions are simply funneled back to shareholders.

We have to draw a line in the concrete and let it dry so the Blue Dogs and President Obama can see it clearly. If this President can't produce a bill with a single-payer option along with all the rest of the private insurance company choices, he really isn't anything different than a Republican...and that’s what voters will say next year.

We need to go into the Midterms with Democrats showing middle class voters that we are fighting for them and that the Republicans are still resisting the change that was mandated last November. Let’s put up the bill that we promised...not some bi-partisan, homogenized fraud. If it fails, it's the Republicans fault.

It's more important than ever that we make the choice between the two parties crystal clear. We can only gain more seats.

Good night, all.

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SandyH on June 27, 2009 at 11:47 PM

Chicago,

The trolls are self appointed experts at health care. They play with their balls through the holes in their pockets.

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Johne on June 27, 2009 at 11:48 PM

Goodnight Sandy.

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Johne on June 27, 2009 at 11:49 PM

Good night Sandy.

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Chicago on June 27, 2009 at 11:54 PM

great! oilfieldguy was back on.

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Esmeralda on June 28, 2009 at 07:37 AM

Morning Esme, and Dems......


What a storm we had here in CT on Friday night.

Almost between a tornado and hurricane. My car is dented from hail stones as big as golf balls. I was out in it, when it started. Wind and rain so hard, cars were pulling over. Streets flooded with water(my brakes still are screwed up). Trees down all over the place, Many still without power.

Never saw anything like it. The weather in the Northeast has been rain and cool for weeks and weeks. Saw the sun briefly Sat. It hurts the eyes now, once you get used to cloudy all the time.

If this is not Climate Change, I do not know what it is.

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PamB on June 28, 2009 at 08:53 AM

Morning Essie,

As you know, the conservatives are trying to dumb down America. They are trying to bring us all down to their level with single digit IQ's.

It seems to have started with raygun, continued with both bush's and now they are pushing phalin who is dumber than a box of rocks.

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Johne on June 28, 2009 at 08:56 AM

This is a really good read. I remember only too well, how the media chose a blind eye to Bush's lies, because they were quickly called unpatriotic if they reported the truth. THAT is why we still have so many (21%) who ended up approving of Bush's failure. The media that reported what they thought the WH wanted during those days, should all be begging our forgiveness for going along with the Emperor with no clothes!

"It's hard to summarize the past five and a half years. But I'll try.

I started my column in January 2004, and one dominant theme quickly emerged: That George W. Bush was truly the proverbial emperor with no clothes. In the days and weeks after the 9/11 terror attacks, the nation, including the media, vested him with abilities he didn't have and credibility he didn't deserve. As it happens, it was on the day of my very first column that we also got the first insider look at the Bush White House, via Ron Suskind's book, The Price of Loyalty. In it, former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill described a disengaged president "like a blind man in a room full of deaf people", encircled by "a Praetorian guard,” intently looking for a way to overthrow Saddam Hussein long before 9/11. The ensuing five years and 1,088 columns really just fleshed out that portrait, describing a president who was oblivious, embubbled and untrustworthy.

When I look back on the Bush years, I think of the lies. There were so many. Lies about the war and lies to cover up the lies about the war. Lies about torture and surveillance. Lies about Valerie Plame. Vice President Dick Cheney's lies, criminally prosecutable but for his chief of staff Scooter Libby's lies. I also think about the extraordinary and fundamentally cancerous expansion of executive power that led to violations of our laws and our principles.

And while this wasn't as readily apparent until President Obama took office, it's now very clear that the Bush years were all about kicking the can down the road – either ignoring problems or, even worse, creating them and not solving them. This was true of a huge range of issues including the economy, energy, health care, global warming – and of course Iraq and Afghanistan.

How did the media cover it all? Not well. Reading pretty much everything that was written about Bush on a daily basis, as I did, one could certainly see the major themes emerging. But by and large, mainstream-media journalism missed the real Bush story for way too long. The handful of people who did exceptional investigative reporting during this era really deserve our gratitude: People such as Ron Suskind, Seymour Hersh, Jane Mayer, Murray Waas, Michael Massing, Mark Danner, Barton Gellman and Jo Becker, James Risen and Eric Lichtblau (better late than never), Dana Priest, Walter Pincus, Charlie Savage and Philippe Sands; there was also some fine investigative blogging over at Talking Points Memo and by Marcy Wheeler. Notably not on this list: The likes of Bob Woodward and Tim Russert. Hopefully, the next time the nation faces a grave national security crisis, we will listen to the people who were right, not the people who were wrong, and heed those who reported the truth, not those who served as stenographers to liars.

contd.
http://messenger.truthout.org/ss/link.php?M=181559&N=56&C=e5cedf15aa0be2c656f9aa698a4a3404&L=309

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PamB on June 28, 2009 at 08:58 AM

This is why Obama's strategy of standing back and letting the people of Iran to solve this is working. If the people really believed that the West was working against their country, they would unite in a force behind their leaders, instead.


Battle for Iran shifts from the streets to the heart of powerAyatollah Khamenei's support for President Ahmadinejad has led both moderates and hard-liners to start plotting against him

http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1102624309603&s=5274&e=001fA6tJPN0iMkg5v5x13zChfulzgaL_isDuxRAEhPlvF3mRetpEKuD0Hg0b2dTKEXP6o0OOq333th7OzPMqzMVovRsmQBvhbDsDFx7wvj6B5ID_MVX6CoyIX0VwWZIk1fIhp7dcx82_2rEWoxpw83pY8L7ZFSp8V6Q4KdiZb1sxeKtL2NsD0IDqQ==

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PamB on June 28, 2009 at 09:02 AM

Morning Pam,

I am driving a city car with dents. Sorry to hear about your storm. That sounds like a bad one. We have had an endless stream of rain cells moving through which is typical of our monsoon.

Despite all the signs and warnings from scientists, the neotards still want only coal and oil. These fools are really beholding to the coal and oil industry. I wonder why? Could it be that they are being paid millions in tribute?

The climate bill and the public option health care bill had better pass or there will be trouble in the streets. It will make the Million Man March look like a stroll in the park.

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Johne on June 28, 2009 at 09:03 AM

And this one makes my heart sing!!


House Passes Bill to Address Threat of Climate !

WASHINGTON — The House passed legislation on Friday intended to address global warming and transform the way the nation produces and uses energy.


The vote was the first time either house of Congress had approved a bill meant to curb the heat-trapping gases scientists have linked to climate change. The legislation, which passed despite deep divisions among Democrats, could lead to profound changes in many sectors of the economy, including electric power generation, agriculture, manufacturing and construction.


http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1102624007171&s=5274&e=001rZcOcAqwna1nj5kJIfssIKJHalsRieRXnrROoc49eQUYzVk2O4ZU9guo42P62XdcbOcKjt8y1BmjV-CPOugR4doojbGcgt1gaifP_fsymhXtbTgfxp-sPZrfOWpdFOughq-3wuwJd2DSoegojCXzbc99kiCE59W9H2d8PdYapC1ZFeQjtjei_rq_ysx-fP4n--o-6MaYspcZJYCP7QhfAQ==

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PamB on June 28, 2009 at 09:05 AM

Oh wait, people are unable to travel to Washington because they don't have jobs and gas is too expensive again. Oh well, it was a good thought.

Maybe we have to sink deeper into the Great Republican Depression of 2009 before people will have the urge to march on Washington by hitchhiking or skateboarding. It will be done.

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Johne on June 28, 2009 at 09:05 AM

Hi Johne,


It is supposed to rain again this afternoon, so I must get started early. I may bbl........

Have a good day !

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PamB on June 28, 2009 at 09:17 AM

ahahaha, Hey Minny Thomasssss, I got quite a kick out of your attemp to pretend you know ANYTHING about health care and the uninsured in this country and how other countries LOVE having Socialized medical insurance ! (ask your little girl friend, Burdie if he does not enjoy the fact that he can walk into a Dr office any day any time and be taken care of for free)


Save your very bad breath, little man, you know NOTHING about the subject your are trying hard to again prove superiority in! It all comes down to your skinny little wallet, where you protect that dollar so mightily! Screw the uninsured if it means you must pay another dollar to make sure kids get immunization, the elderly get their medicine !


just in case you missed this one, here it is again:


just a hit and run as usual. So much to do these day, so little hours.

Just when you think the little girlie trolls cannot get much shriller, Wow---they surprise you with their sound and fury, signifying nothing!


YOU ARE NOT a Conservative, Tommy boy! True Conservatives condemned Bush and his spending and his actions! True conservatives saw through what he was doing. True conservatives either did not vote, or voted for Obama, in order for McCain not to get in and continue the fiscal mess.

YOU, my aging, balding plump friend, are a Reich Wing Extremist! The kind that lock stepped, and goose marched with Hitler years ago. You hate social programs, yet every day you yourself enjoy everything Democrats gave you in this country. You MEAN you hate social programs for the lower income, people of color, don't you? You hate having to spend a dollar on the poor, the elderly (except your own grandparents and parents), hungry Children (but a poor woman better not abort, but don't ask you to help feed and clothe the kid). The disabled and the Veterans can kiss your ass----this is a sink or swim society according to your view of the world. Everybody responsible for themselves !


You are a loser, Thomass. You and your peers come here with your arrogance, your pretend religion, your greedy greasy wallet, and try and act superior, while all the time, you merely show how very low intelligence, lack of any sense of humor, any education, any understanding or empathy of human nature. You want WARs, but you would never fight in one. Cowardice is one of your character traits.

So do us a favor, and don't try and preach to us that you somehow are better than us. YOU have a long climb to even lick the boots of any one of the Dems here.

There is a bumper sticker says" When there is Love in the Home, there is Joy in the Heart'! Your very being here, where you are an unwelcome presence, shows what kind of home, what kind of heart you have !


So I take my leave now, Dems. Back later part of the day............. try not to laugh too much at the lack of facts and truths from these idiots! Notice, outside of reich wing crapola, they have NOTHING! (Stevie must have gotten lucky with some blind gal last night! Or else the guys with the butterfly nets caught up with him!) :)

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PamB on June 28, 2009 at 09:41 AM

Good morning, all.

"We aspire to the highest ethical standards."

Mitt Romney, "Meet the Press", June 28, 2009

Republicans aspire but they always fail. Why is that?

Could it be that they quite honestly don't care about the welfare of others? That their own personal pride and power mean everything to them? That their families and neighbors really come last even as they say they aspire for the highest ideals?

They talk about God's Law in the Christian sense. Yet they neglect to note that Jesus did not live that way nor advocate that kind of arrogance. He shared and loved freely.

The highest aspiration is to love others before yourself. They just don't get it and refuse to consider that they are wrong.

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SandyH on June 28, 2009 at 10:00 AM

"When there is Love in the Home, there is Joy in the Heart'!

PamB on June 28, 2009 at 09:41 AM

Pam,

I love that bumper sticker. Enjoy your day.

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SandyH on June 28, 2009 at 10:03 AM

They are such frauds.

I love the web that the GOP tries to weave when they send their pundits and party leaders out to speak. They are still talking about the importance of bi-partisan support when they rejected it entirely when they were in power.

They only want to weaken if not completely derail the Democratic agenda that voters mandated last year with a landslide victory. They don't want change. But the country still does.

And, yes, we can have it. We will let them talk and be heard, but at the end of the day we will give our people the change they have longed for since Bush and his Republican majority so thoroughly destroyed everything in their quest for greed and personal glory.

bbl.

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SandyH on June 28, 2009 at 10:14 AM

Republicans are saying that Sanford "did nothing wrong" because he met with his mistress on private time on a "legitimate" business trip.

Who cares if he didn't see his kids on Father's Day? Certainly not Sanford or his GOP apologists.

Let them continue to talk about their "aspirations" instead of talking about their $1.5 trillion deficit, Iraq, Katrina, 911, the TARP, or outsourcing and downsizing our economy. They will just continue "doing" what makes them rich and personally corrupt as human beings.

Let them talk. Their actions speak louder than their words and aspirations. And their actions cannot be ignored any longer...no matter how hard they try to do just that.

158
SandyH on June 28, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Oh shut up Harpo, you stupid fool.

159
Chicago on June 28, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Morning Pam, Sandy and Chicago,

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Johne on June 28, 2009 at 12:45 PM

The teabaggers have gone overboard this time...quite literally.

They threw an illegal alien off a bridge last night here in River City. Like all conservatives they botched it up. The guy wasn't killed. He was fished out of the water with minor injuries, so he can now finger the racists who did this to him.

When are these idiot conservatives going to figure out that they are born losers?

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SandyH on June 28, 2009 at 04:36 PM

It looks like someone on this blog has first-hand knowledge of a hate crime in addition to making threats against the POTUS. Only a conservative would boast about such things...or flaunt their Argentinian mistress to the world.

Catch me if you can? Please catch me? I need attention.

162
SandyH on June 28, 2009 at 05:26 PM

So Limbaugh, John Boehner, and the rest of their conservative golf buddies are socialists? Who could have guessed?

Bill McClellan
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
06/28/2009

To understand the American economic system, which is a hybrid of free enterprise and socialism, you have to understand the difference between a well-struck golf ball at the Tower Tee driving range in Affton and a well-struck golf ball at the St. Louis Country Club in Ladue.

The golf ball at Tower Tee is going to land on property taxed at 32 percent of its appraised value. That is the standard rate for commercial property. The golf ball at St. Louis Country Club is going to land on property taxed at 19 percent of its appraised value. That is the standard rate for residential property.

The golf course at St. Louis Country Club is not really residential. Even in hard times, people don't live on its fairways, or on its greens, or even in its rough. The sort of people who might be so inclined are not welcome. But for tax purposes, golf courses are considered residential.

That's not just country clubs. That's all golf courses. Chapter 137 of the Missouri Revised Statutes declares that the definition of residential property should include "land used as a golf course."


In other words, we subsidize golf courses. Not driving ranges, but golf courses. I'm talking of privately owned golf courses, of course. Municipal golf courses are not taxed.

I am not a golfer, but I have friends who are. Maybe we should subsidize the game. Just don't complain about socialized medicine while on the course. That's all I ask.

But the most interesting aspect is this: A privately owned public course — that is, a course that allows the public to play — faces a higher tax burden than does a private club that excludes the public.

A public course pays the residential rate for the actual golf course but pays the higher commercial rate for other land — the clubhouse, parking lot, swimming pools, tennis courts, outbuildings, etc.

A private club pays the lower residential rate for all its property. That includes its spacious, handsome clubhouse.

This means we're doing more than subsidizing golf. We're subsidizing a lifestyle.

After all, if you go to the corner tavern and order a beer, the price of that beer is going to reflect the taxes the tavern owner pays, and he pays at the commercial rate. Nobody is subsidizing your beer. It's free enterprise and capitalism at the tavern.

But when the country clubber relaxes on the veranda of the clubhouse after a nice round of subsidized golf, the price of his drink reflects the much lower residential rate that the club pays. He gets a subsidized drink.

It's socialism at the country club...

The clubs' basic argument was that the public courses were businesses, but the private clubs operate on a not-for-profit basis.

I like that. The St. Louis Country Club. A not-for-profit. Kind of like the Salvation Army or Goodwill...

I'm sure this is not easy on them. I suspect many of them are deeply conflicted. A lot of the folks at St. Louis Country Club are politically conservative. Titans of industry and so on. Talking the conservative talk, living the socialist life.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/columnists.nsf/billmcclellan/story/FC6EF30ECF2193A8862575E2000D52F7?OpenDocument

Republicans are such deeply conflicted people? Or is the Argentinian mistress problem just the tip of the iceberg in these "fiscally conservative" hypocrites lives?

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SandyH on June 28, 2009 at 05:53 PM

"Making matters worse, the media have no excuse for this current oversight for several House members held a press conference about this issue early Thursday afternoon (h/t NBer Joseph Johnson):

REPRESENTATIVE JOE BARTON (R-TEX.):
Also in attendance at the press conference which took place at 12:32 PM EDT Thursday were Rep. James Sensenbrenner (R-Wisc.), Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.), Rep Greg Walden (R-Ore.), Rep. John Shadegg (R-Ariz.), Rep. Steve Scalise (R-LA), Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), and Rep. John Fleming (R-Louis.).

bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha,,,,, now THIS group we should give credibility to, and really believe their crapola! Oh COURSE the media does not print lying bullcrap like this a bout global warming and Obama administration hiding facts!!!!!

THIS is all you got????? Get a job, old man!


dinner time.....bbl.

164
PamB on June 28, 2009 at 06:09 PM

Support Whig Democrats, over Tory elements.

Grand Ayatollah Of Iran’s Persian Shiite Republic

Ayatollahs merging Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Palestinian nations,
Shiites under Iran’s Grand Ayatollah Iranian Persian Republic
Private religious armies in theocracy suppression of Freedom
Women rights Shea law in male supreme supremacy intimidation
Religious police baton swings “At Will” punishment retribution.


It seems that the people are losing their Whig representation from Tory Fraternity redefinitions.

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YoungPoet on June 28, 2009 at 07:22 PM

No, simpleton, they changed the name because low witted backwoods folks like yourself, did not understand Global Warming, so they changed the name to try and help you understand it.


And for the other small weenie troll, who likes to pretend he is so informed, so savvy, so smart, here are the facts on Welfare and the old tales of 2nd and 3rd generations just continuing on welfare all their lives. YOU are one of the easily swayed individuals they counted on think Democrats are pushing Welfare for those who do not need it, or will not work!!!!

NOTE, it was Bill Clinton who Reformed Welfare in 1996 and 1997. The Repugs liked to bitch about it, but never did anything about it.


"The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 (PRWORA, Pub.L. 104-193, 110 Stat. 2105, enacted August 22, 1996) is a United States federal law considered to be a fundamental shift in both the method and goal of federal cash assistance to the poor. The bill was a cornerstone of the Republican Contract With America and was introduced by Rep. E. Clay Shaw, Jr. (R-Florida) who believed welfare was partly responsible for bringing immigrants to the United States.[1] Bill Clinton signed PRWORA into law on August 26, 1996 under his promise to "end welfare as we know it".

PRWORA instituted Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) which became effective July 1, 1997. TANF replaced Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) program which had been in effect since 1935 and also supplanted the Job Opportunities and Basic Skills Training (JOBS) program of 1988. The law was heralded as a "reassertion of America's work ethic" by the US Chamber of Commerce, largely in response to the bill's workfare component. Some criticized the bill as a reinstitution of workhouses and believe the new system has been ineffective in getting people out of poverty. TANF was reauthorized in the Deficit Reduction Act of 2005

PRWORA proposed TANF as AFDC’s replacement. The Congressional findings in PRWORA highlighted dependency, out-of-wedlock birth, and intergenerational poverty as the main contributors to a faulty system.[9] In instituting a block grant program, PRWORA granted states the ability to design their own systems, as long as states met a set of basic federal requirements. The bill's primary requirements and effects included:

Ending welfare as an entitlement program;
Requiring recipients to begin working after two years of receiving benefits;
Placing a lifetime limit of five years on benefits paid by federal funds;
Aiming to encourage two-parent families and discouraging out-of-wedlock births.
In granting states wider latitude for designing their own programs, some states have decided to place additional requirements on recipients. Although the law placed a time limit for benefits supported by federal funds of no more than 2 consecutive years and no more than 5 years over a lifetime, some states have enacted briefer limits. All states, however, have allowed exceptions with the intent of not punishing children because their parents have gone over the time limit. Federal requirements have ensured some measure of uniformity across states, but the block grant approach has led individual states to distribute federal money in different ways. Certain states more actively encourage education, others use the money to help fund private enterprises helping job seekers.

The legislation also greatly limited funds available for unmarried parents under 18, and restricted any funding to immigrants (legal or illegal).[3] Some state programs emphasized a shift towards work with names such as "Wisconsin Works" and "WorkFirst". Between 1997 and 2000, enormous numbers of the poor have left or been terminated from the program, with a national drop of 53% in total recipients.[10]


Welfare and poverty rates both declined during the late-1990s, leading many commentators to declare that the legislation was a success. An editorial in The New Republic opined, "A broad consensus now holds that welfare reform was certainly not a disaster--and that it may, in fact, have worked much as its designers had hoped."[14]

AND, IF YOU REALLY CARED ABOUT VETERANS, YOU WOULD HAVE VOTED BUSH OUT, AND DEMOCRATS IN!!! He screwed them over royally !


The Bush Administration Has Failed to Provide the Resources, Leadership, and Management to Meet the Needs of Veterans

In the past two years, Bush Administration mismanagement has resulted in funding shortfalls in the VA’s medical care budget. In a September 2006 report, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) found that flaws in the Administration’s budget formulations were largely to blame for budget shortfalls in veterans’ medical programs in both Fiscal Years 2005 and 2006. According to the report, “unrealistic assumptions, errors in estimation, and insufficient data” contributed to the President’s requests for additional funding, including a $975 million supplemental appropriation request in June 2005 and a $1.977 billion budget amendment in July 2005. In addition to a faulty budgeting process, the GAO found that the Administration failed to report anticipated budget problems to Congress in a timely manner to ensure effective oversight. The VA began to anticipate budget shortfalls as early as October 2004 yet, it did not report these looming problems to Congress until June of 2005. (GAO-06-958, 9/20/06)

The Bush Administration has consistently underestimated the health care needs of veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan. The GAO also found that the VA significantly underestimated the needs of veterans returning from service in Iraq and Afghanistan in fiscal years 2005 and 2006 in part, because its budget formulations relied on data that preceded these wars. Last year alone, the VA underestimated veterans’ demand for care by 68 percent. In spite of these findings, the Bush Administration has continued its practice of underestimating the demand for VA services from veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. According to Senate committee reports, the Bush Administration’s budget projections underestimated the number of veterans who would access the VA health care system by 100,000 patients, or nearly 100 percent, in its Fiscal Year 2007 budget proposal and by 50,000 patients in its Fiscal Year 2008 budget proposal. (GAO-06-958, 9/20/06; Senator Murray, Press Release, 9/29/06; Appropriations Committee Minority Staff, 3/29/07; Veterans’ Affairs Committee Majority Staff, 2/05/07)

Bush Administration policies have created barriers to veterans’ health care. Year after year, Bush Administration budget proposals have included measures that seek to artificially reduce demand for VA services. Measures that limit veterans’ access to VA health care have passed under Republican leadership. In January 2003, the Bush Administration imposed a ban on Priority Group 8 Veterans from enrolling in VA medical care, allegedly due to limited resources. According to VA estimates, this ban has prevented approximately 273,000 of these “middle-income” veterans, whose annual income is as low as $27,790, from accessing VA medical services in Fiscal Year 2006 and 242,000 in Fiscal Year 2007. (CRS RL33993, 5/10/07)

Under the Bush Administration, Veterans Have Not Received the Care They Deserve

Veterans face substandard care and bureaucratic delays at many of our nation’s health care facilities. As the mistreatment of wounded soldiers at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center has highlighted, the Bush Administration has failed to provide the necessary funding or exercise the leadership to ensure quality care to our nation’s veterans. Over the past several months, investigations, Congressional hearings, and media reports have uncovered significant bureaucratic obstacles and substandard medical care at many of our nation’s military and veterans’ health care facilities. These problems have raised concerns about the capacity of the VA medical system to provide outpatient care for returning soldiers and, in particular, to deal with the long-term health care challenges many of our soldiers face as a result of brain injuries, post-traumatic stress, and other debilitating physical and psychological wounds. (New York Times, 4/12/07)

In a recent Department of Veterans Affairs review, over 1,000 problems were found in VA Centers across the country. As the Washington Post reported, “A review by the Department of Veterans Affairs of 1,400 hospitals and other veterans care facilities…has turned up more than 1,000 reports of substandard conditions – from leaky roofs and peeling paint to bug and bat infestations – as well as a smaller number of potential threats to patient safety, such as suicide risks in psychiatric wards.” (Washington Post, 3/22/07)

Vet Centers are understaffed. According to VA records, the number of returning Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans who have accessed Vet Centers has more than doubled since 2004, while the staff at these clinics has increased by less than 10 percent. A recent VA survey of Vet Center team leaders found that, in some instances, staff shortages have led to longer wait times for veterans and even limited the treatment and services that the centers are able to provide to veterans. (USA Today, 4/19/07)

Bush Administration mismanagement has rendered mental health care “virtually inaccessible” for veterans. As reported in the May 2006 edition of Psychiatric News, “Frances Murphy, M.D., undersecretary for Health Policy and Coordination at the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA), said the growing numbers of veterans seeking mental health care has put emphasis on areas in which improvement is needed. She noted that some VA clinics do not provide mental health or substance abuse care, or if they do, ‘waiting lists render that care virtually inaccessible.’” With an estimated one-third of veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan facing mental health challenges, the lack of access to critical health care for these veterans raises concerns that our nation’s veterans will not be provided the services that they need and deserve. While the VA has claimed to be increasing funding for its mental health programs, in November, the GAO found that the department failed to spend more than $100 million in funds that had been allocated for treating post-traumatic stress disorder and other mental health conditions. (Psychiatric News, 5/5/06; GAO-07-66, November, 2006)

http://democrats.senate.gov/dpc/dpc-new.cfm?doc_name=fs-110-1-85

SO SIT BACK AND SHUT UP, LITTLE TOMMY! THE BIG BOYS ARE NOW IN CHARGE, AND WE SHALL TAKE CARE OF YOU AND YOUR'S!!!! DON'T SHOW HOW STUPID YOUR ARE ANYMORE.

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PamB on June 28, 2009 at 07:23 PM

Free Speech is a misnomer, that even America, abuses daily.
Patriot Act demanding Abu Ghraib National Security secrecy,
Military Tribunal Guantanamo denied civilian due process,
America Scales of InJustice into the Dark Ages of Inquisition.

167
YoungPoet on June 28, 2009 at 07:25 PM

All conservatives are assholes.

168
Johne on June 28, 2009 at 07:25 PM

Cheney Secret Patriot Act America

Secret Think Tanks prefabrications in Mission Accomplished
Creative Accounting of truth that “Lies” in Washington facts.
CIA of manipulative data Right Wing Conservatism Inquisition
Taking America back to the Dark Ages of Holocaust reflections.

Tyrants of Histories Patriot Act past need for security secrecy
Where Free Press Free Speech has muted filters denying Liberty.
Crushed Lady Liberty of Tiananmen Square Civil Liberty rights,
When a CEO President becomes the Supreme Court Commander.

Enron of one branch Goliath against “We the people” David’s.

169
YoungPoet on June 28, 2009 at 07:26 PM

hmmmmm, not a word about any made up global cooling!!!!!!!!

Climate change is any long-term change in the patterns of average weather of a specific region or the Earth as a whole. Climate change reflects abnormal variations to the Earth's climate and subsequent effects on other parts of the Earth, such as in the ice caps over durations ranging from decades to millions of years.

In recent usage, especially in the context of environmental policy, climate change usually refers to changes in modern climate (see global warming). For information on temperature measurements over various periods, and the data sources available, see temperature record. For attribution of climate change over the past century, see attribution of recent climate change.


Main article: Global warming
Anthropogenic factors are human activities that change the environment. In some cases the chain of causality of human influence on the climate is direct and unambiguous (for example, the effects of irrigation on local humidity), whilst in other instances it is less clear. Various hypotheses for human-induced climate change have been argued for many years though, generally, the scientific debate has moved on from scepticism to a scientific consensus on climate change that human activity is the probable cause for the rapid changes in world climate in the past several decades.[12] Consequently, the debate has largely shifted onto ways to reduce further human impact and to find ways to adapt to change that has already occurred.[13]

Of most concern in these anthropogenic factors is the increase in CO2 levels due to emissions from fossil fuel combustion, followed by aerosols (particulate matter in the atmosphere) and cement manufacture. Other factors, including land use, ozone depletion, animal agriculture[14] and deforestation, are also of concern in the roles they play - both separately and in conjunction with other factors - in affecting climate.


Physical evidence for climatic change
Evidence for climatic change is taken from a variety of sources that can be used to reconstruct past climates. Most of the evidence is indirect—climatic changes are inferred from changes in indicators that reflect climate, such as vegetation, ice cores,[15] dendrochronology, sea level change, and glacial geology.


Wikipedia.......


read it and weep, freakoid!

heading out Dems....

blog ya in the morning.

170
PamB on June 28, 2009 at 07:30 PM

Who said sanford met a girl in Argentina. Could this be a craig moment at the airport in Argentina?

171
Johne on June 28, 2009 at 08:45 PM

Hello fine Dems.

172
Chicago on June 28, 2009 at 08:46 PM

OH shut up Cleveland, you stupid fool.

173
Chicago on June 28, 2009 at 08:59 PM

Evening Chicago,

We have had a rainy day. Very unusual. It must be that pesky MAN-MADE GLOBAL WARMING.

174
Johne on June 28, 2009 at 09:00 PM

Chicago,

It appears to me that all trolls are morons. You will find their pictures under stupid in your Funk and Wagnall's.

175
Johne on June 28, 2009 at 09:02 PM

The simple fact is that the republicans couldn't pass welfare reform. They did not have the votes.
And Newt Gingrich is a pig AND a fool.

176
Chicago on June 28, 2009 at 09:02 PM

Gingrich is an opportunist.

177
Johne on June 28, 2009 at 09:04 PM

OH shut up Harpo, you stupid fool.

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Chicago on June 28, 2009 at 09:10 PM

Hello Johne,
I hope Gingrich runs for president.
Only the complete idiots will vote for Gingrich.
That group of GOP bottom feeders that listen to Rush. Brainless fools, the lot of them.

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Chicago on June 28, 2009 at 09:15 PM

Let's see...
1. They were stupid.
2. They disliked someone who was different from them.
3. They were violent.
Yeah, they were conservatives.
No doubt about it.

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Chicago on June 28, 2009 at 10:00 PM

We make love. Not war. Throwing people off bridges is definitely a check in your column. Your side torched Joan of Arc and tortured liberals during the Spanish Inquisition...Leslie Graham said that "worked" well.

And whatever happened to the Cheney family tag team Rally for Torture? I thought they were really convincing...nobody? Maybe they were looking and sounding too much like the dictators in Iran?

181
SandyH on June 28, 2009 at 10:05 PM

OH shut up Harpo, you stupid fool.

182
Chicago on June 28, 2009 at 10:11 PM

Hi Sandy, good to see you.

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Chicago on June 28, 2009 at 10:12 PM

Poor stupid republican trolls.
They believe whatever the Gee-Oh-Pee tells them to think.
Climate change is a liberal conspiracy.
Tax breaks for the rich will be good for America.
Iraq has WMD's
Nixon wasn't a crook.
Sarah Palin will bring in the female vote.
Dan Quayle will bring in the female vote.

They must be too stupid to learn...

184
Chicago on June 28, 2009 at 10:36 PM

raygun is still fucking us from the grave. Let's bury the prick and his so called "legace" once and for all. raygun hated America and Americans. He was a fucking fascist pig. If he wasn't then why did he visit the grave of a Nazi SS soldier in Germany.

"In 1961, then private citizen Ronald Reagan partnered with the American Medical Association to record this 10 minute speech that was to become part of what was known as Operation Coffee Cup (OCC). OCC was a campaign conducted by the American Medical Association (AMA) in opposition to the Democrats’ plans to extend Social Security to include health insurance for the elderly, later known as Medicare. As part of the program, doctors’ wives would organize coffee meetings and play the Reagan recording to convince acquaintances to write letters to Congress opposing the program."

More................

http://mindserased.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/reagan-was-an-asshole/

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Johne on June 28, 2009 at 11:10 PM

The Bastard Is DEAD!!

"Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.

-Imperial Grand Prophet Ronald Reagan (mystically foreseeing TARP")

With the passage of the massive economic stimulus plan set to be signed into law by President Obama on Tuesday in Denver the dying squeals of Republican piggies grown fat on the failed policies of Ronald Wilson Reagan are becoming more shrill, psychotic and deafening. The stimulus plan, even as diluted as it is by the inclusion of all of those great tax cuts that have resulted only in proving that trickle down economics is nothing more than Gulliver pissing on the heads of the Lilliputians (translation: the working class) and doing so with sadistic mirth. What the stimulus package represents more than anything even including the ridiculous fucking tax cuts is that the end of an era is nigh and that the machinery of government is being slowly redirected to a previous form where it was not weaponized by overly wealthy pigs, Wall Street looter capitalists and avaricious corporations who only stand for, to borrow form the words of the late Hunter S. Thompson:

... the systematic destruction of everything this country claims to stand for except the rights of the rich to put saddles on the backs of the poor and use public funds to build jails for anybody who complained about it."

More....................

The conditions on the ground in early 2009, the beginning of the era of Barack Obama and the end of the lie of Reaganism are those of unmitigated fury as the right confronts the greatest threat to the supremacy of their cancerous capitalism since the days of the hated Franklin Delano Roosevelt. The battlefield is overrun by the defenders of failed dogma and by the well paid servants who stand to lose their meal tickets. Already, in the early weeks of the Obama administration the Republicans have squealed like stuck pigs, outraged at the massive jacking up of the debt to somehow staunch the bleeding and to create jobs for the jobless. Of course they never gave a rat’s asshole when Lord Bush was robbing from their grandchildren to build the police state infrastructure, wage illegal wars of aggression where trillions of dollars were sucked down a black hole inhabited by the slime creatures that are blood barters and war profiteers.

more.........................

http://www.opednews.com/populum/diarypage.php?did=12202

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Johne on June 28, 2009 at 11:25 PM

Wake up you commie bastard neotards. You have fucked America for the last time. RAYGUNOMICS WAS A FRAUD. It is dead like like the commie bastard that saddled us with his bullshit republican pary.

These people hate America and hate Americans. These commies have stolen America and have destroyed the middle class. We can't let them win. Our way of life is in danger. Asshole raygun fought against national health care in 1961 and has crushed American ideals for the last 48 fucking years.

It's over. Stick a fork in raygun's bony ass and all the rest of the bony assed repulican commies. They must be defeated and driven from power of any kind. They aren't fit to kiss Adolf Hitler's ass.

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Johne on June 28, 2009 at 11:36 PM

Morning all Dems.......

Dr Mitchell Taylor has been researching the status and management of polar bears in Canada and around the Arctic Circle for 30 years, as both an academic and a government employee. More than once since 2006 he has made headlines by insisting that polar bear numbers, far from decreasing, are much higher than they were 30 years ago. Of the 19 different bear populations, almost all are increasing or at optimum levels, only two have for local reasons modestly declined.


Stupidity like this make me grimace. 2006???? Now who was in office from 2006, until Jan. 2009???? YUP, non other than Chimpy Bush!
Funny how we have posted article after article over the years from 2001 till Jan 2009 about how Scientists were not allowed to publish their reports on climate change, and the sheeple never paid one bit of attention---but you get some old archived piece of crapola about polar bears and they jump on it! Who really gives a damn about the polar bears, when every single bit of scientific evidence proves that the earth and the oceans have warmed at least 2degrees and is going faster. Republicans do not understand what the Eco Balance system even means, and what this warming is doing. If it means their beloved corporations and CEOs must clean up their emissions, and they will have to pay an extra dollar for that next IPOD or 6 pack, then you better watch out----they will fight it.

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PamB on June 29, 2009 at 07:12 AM

Now why am I not surprised, that ole Lordy Lordy Monckton is a Conservative?? You know, one of those close minded, not too bright ones.

"He returned to Conservative Central Office in late 1982, this time as a policy advisor for Margaret Thatcher.[

Eddy Shah: Today and the Newspaper Revolution describes him as "a fervent, forthright and opinionated Roman Catholic Tory"[24] who has been closely associated with the "New Right" faction of the Conservative Party

The British writer and environmentalist George Monbiot has criticized Monckton's arguments, labelling them "cherry-picking, downright misrepresentation and pseudo-scientific gibberish."[10]

The APS further added a disclaimer to the top of Monckton's article stating: "...Its conclusions are in disagreement with the overwhelming opinion of the world scientific community. The Council of the American Physical Society disagrees with this article's conclusions."[20] In a response[21], Monckton called the APS "red flag" "discourteous" and claimed his paper had been "scientifically reviewed in meticulous detail". Notwithstanding, Arthur Smith, long-time member at the APS Forum, has identified 125 errors, irrelevancies, and contradictions in the article.[22][23]


Guess that takes care of the credibility of THAT piece of nonsense!

189
PamB on June 29, 2009 at 07:25 AM

An email from my Congressman:

"As the Chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, I am writing to inform you of the important accomplishments already achieved by the 111th Congress and President Obama. All the following bills have been signed into law after the tireless work of my colleagues in Democratic leadership:

· (H.R. 11) Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act: to restore the rights of women and other workers by helping to close the wage gap in which women earn 78 cents for every $1 earned by men in America.

· (H.R. 2) Health Care for 11 Million Children: to provide cost-effective health coverage for 11 million children whose parents earn too little to afford their own insurance, but too much to qualify for Medicaid.

· (H.R. 1) American Recovery and Reinvestment Act: enacted to jumpstart our economy, create and save 3.5 million jobs, to provide a tax cut for 95% of American workers, and begin to rebuild America’s road, rail, and water infrastructure, with unprecedented accountability measures.

· (S. 383) Strengthening Oversight of TARP: to expand the authority of the TARP Special Inspector General, to help ensure that taxpayers’ funds are effectively used to get credit flowing to businesses and families.

· (H.R. 1106) Helping Families Save Their Homes Act: building on the President’s housing initiative, to provide significant incentives for lenders, servicers, and homeowners to work together to modify loans and to avoid foreclosures.

· (S. 386) Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act of 2009: to provide tools for prosecuting the mortgage scams and corporate frauds that contributed to the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression; and to create a Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission to examine its causes.

· (S. 454) Military Procurement Reform: to crack down on Pentagon waste and cost overruns by dramatically strengthening oversight of weapons acquisition, promoting greater competition, and cutting conflicts of interest.

· (H.R. 627) Credit Cardholders Bill of Rights: to provide new protections for consumers by banning unfair rate increases, abusive fees and penalties, giving consumers clear information, and strengthening enforcement.


In addition to these meaningful legislative victories, we continue to work hard with the United States Senate leadership and President Obama on the following initiatives.

· (H.R. 2454) American Clean Energy and Security Act: to strengthen our economy by making America the world leader in new clean energy and energy efficiency technologies; to create millions of new clean energy jobs, save consumers hundreds of billions of dollars in energy costs, enhance America's energy independence, and cut global warming pollution.

· (H.R. 384) Tarp Accountability and (H.R. 1664) Pay for Performance: to strengthen accountability of the financial rescue effort launched by President Bush; support President Obama’s efforts to get credit flowing to businesses and families and provide new tools to fix the housing foreclosure crisis; to set up an Inspector General to monitor TARP spending; and ban unreasonable compensation to top employees at participating institutions.

· Health Care Reform: to reinvent the American health care system; to ensure affordable health care for individuals while allowing them to keep their current coverage if preferred; to create shared responsibility among individuals, employers, and government to guarantee all Americans have affordable coverage of essential health benefits; to expand and create new prevention and wellness services; to increase the health care workforce; and to reduce the growth in health care spending and return those savings to families, employers, and taxpayers.

I am extremely proud of all the hard work the 111th Congress has put forth and how much we have already been able to accomplish on behalf of the American people and citizens of the First Congressional District and the State of Connecticut. The 111th Congress is working hand in hand with our President to make the promise of change real. With our efforts to bring meaningful health-care reform and energy independence on the horizon, I will continue to communicate with you and ask for your input.

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PamB on June 29, 2009 at 07:29 AM

THIS is why we must do something about the earth's warming and the Climate change:

News

Analysis: Climate Bill May Spur Energy Revolution
Saturday 27 June 2009

by: H. Josef Hebert | Visit article original @ The Associated Press

(Photo: Vlastula / flickr)
Washington - Congress has taken its first step toward an energy revolution, with the prospect of profound change for every household, business, industry and farm in the decades ahead.

It was late Friday when the House passed legislation that would, for the first time, require limits on pollution blamed for global warming - mainly carbon dioxide from burning fossil fuels. Now the Senate has the chance to change the way Americans produce and use energy.

What would the country look like a decade from now if the House-passed bill - or, more likely, a water-down version - were to become the law of the land?

"It will open the door to a clean energy economy and a better future for America," President Barack Obama said Saturday.

But what does that mean to the average person?
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PamB on June 29, 2009 at 07:31 AM

and OF COURSE, MN Thomass did not read my rebuttal to his post! I never thought he would.

It contained FACTS, which he would be unable to debate, so he just skipped it.


Keep those blinders on, old man. Look how far that got you! All that hate in your gut!

Remember! YOU came looking for us, not vice versa! You had one purpose , and one purpose only, just like the other sicko who has been here over 5 years. Want to talk about Sick?

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PamB on June 29, 2009 at 07:59 AM

How are things in the great state of OH?

101BobVADemocratHawk on June 27, 2009 at 07:31 AM

We are experiencing great weather in my part of SE OH.

Politically...we have two great candidates for U.S. Senator, petitions were filed last week to put on a state issue (almost 900,000 signatures gathered), the state's budget looks grim, and I'm hoping for an announcement of my Rep. who stated she may run for Sec. of State!

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Esmeralda on June 29, 2009 at 08:00 AM

I'm out for a while again. bbl, Dems.....

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PamB on June 29, 2009 at 08:00 AM

It's a shame that harponeverything has nothing to do over the weekend but to sit at the computer and nag on the DNC blog.

what sad, miserable lives the trools have. (but they will "argue" just to "argue" that they are really happy)

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Esmeralda on June 29, 2009 at 08:03 AM

Morning Pam,

It is really wet here. It rained on and off all day yesterday. It is really welcome.

Isn't it great that our Congressperson is emailing us letting us know what they have accomplished. In the 110th Congress we had rep. wilson and sen. dumbinici. The only answer we ever got from them was negative. "We did this and to hell with America".

It is so refreshing to have things going our way after eight years of treasonous behavior.

Last night on our radio -the only station we receive at night- we had the usual crap. It used to be hannity. Now it is cunningham. This guy reads right out of the Nazi SS manual.

"The democrats are hypocrites". "I am a great american".

This guy is a real ahole. The callers are just as bad. They are mostly from the south in places like georgia and alabama. These people are still complaining about the Civil War.

You lost aholes. Get over it. You will continue to lose with your racist lies and inuendos. Get over it.

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Johne on June 29, 2009 at 08:05 AM

good morning folks. i see the paper in south carolina is predicting that governor "i cry for you argentina" will resign this week. what i find particularly delightful about this family value soldier's contradiction is how righteous and gallant the good guv was in telling the people of his state that he would protect them from extensions of unemployment insurance and increased funds for public schools.....and now it turns out his real interests were about an extension he was experiencing in his pants and public funds for air travel.....hahahaha....he will be missed but i am not sure by who.....and this moves sarah further up the emaciated repelican food chain of 2012 presidential candidates.....most excellent!

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gregg on June 29, 2009 at 08:08 AM

Morning Essie,

Were you rained on too. It is so great.

Today my Senator Udall is coming to Belen. He is coming to the City Hall council chambers about 20 feet from my office. Wow, what a guy. He sent me a personal email and wants to talk with myself and whoever else he sent the emails too. What a refreshing change from dumbinici who never visited our town and couldn't care less about Americans or America.

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Johne on June 29, 2009 at 08:09 AM

Morning gregg,

I am still wondering if he had a girlfriend in Argentina or a boyfriend. Remember that limpballs was missing last week too and showed up the day after sanford reappeared. Inquiring minds want to know what this hypocrite was actually doing in Argentina.

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Johne on June 29, 2009 at 08:12 AM

well, limpnoodle harpie, read the blog over the past couple of weeks and the weekends, and you will see that I have not been here and that the remaining 5 (which 2 left???) didn't sit here from sun up to sun down like you did all weekend.

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Esmeralda on June 29, 2009 at 08:17 AM

Good morning, DEMS!

Ignore the ignorant, Pam.

I see that thoroughly debunked and exposed as a charlatan "Lord" Monckton has been pulled out of mothballs yet again. First of all, he isn't a Member of Parliament, and never was. Secondly, he BOUGHT his peerage giving him the honorary title of "Lord". Just like that phony "Lord" Stanford.

And the Scientific Journal that he butchered in his hack piece (which the trolls post here non stop) was completely sliced and diced by actual scientists that wrote it.

Here is a brief compilation of the debunkings. Just click on the titles to read the entire posts chock full of linky goodness.

Monckton

Next up will be that phony "Dr." Landschultz from the Bullshits Institute somewhere in Germany. The ONLY "researcher" at that imaginary "institute" is that Landscultz (or whatever) dude, and he lived in Nova Scotia for years before he died several years ago, but keeping the "Germany" post office box made it sound a lot more "sciency".

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on June 29, 2009 at 08:17 AM

Gregg,

Isn't dereliction of duty a crime in South Carolina? His Lieutenant Governor was supposed to be informed about any absences and sworn in to act as governor. sanford just vanished without the proper ceremony.

What if they had a hurricane or other natural disaster?

The good people of South Carolina should stand up and be counted. The rest can go to hell.

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Johne on June 29, 2009 at 08:21 AM

good morning, johne. we had great weather this weekend and this morning looks awesome too. I'm just taking in some internet time while Miss Lily is sleeping. She has been staying asleep for over 12 hours. Mamey's house is cool & quiet!

I've been taking Mon. & Fri. off work the past couple of weeks. I enjoy the long weekends and I don't get too behind in my work at the office.

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Esmeralda on June 29, 2009 at 08:22 AM

We haven't heard anything from the terminator the last couple of weeks. Is he licking his wounds? Hopefully the good people of California will recall the SOB and take out the republican trash. I am still waiting for California to sue the crap out of the only remaining criminal from Enron. While they are at it they should sue bush and cheney who were buddies of Enron. If you will remember, Enron screwed California good and it cost the state billions of dollars in excess electricity charges to get the State out of the crisis. The bush crime family was involved in the criminal act.

And whatever happened to worldcom? We never hear anything about that. Was that another bush crime family values ripoff of the American taxpayer?

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Johne on June 29, 2009 at 08:31 AM

Essie,

It's nice to take some time off to be with your family.

Tomorrow we open bids on our $6 million dollar stimulus project. This is really good news because the contractors are really hungry.

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Johne on June 29, 2009 at 08:45 AM

Hi again,

Your weather sounds great, Esme.

The Northeast has suffered some of the worse weather in history. Last Friday late afternoon, a tornado actually formed in the next town over and cut a path across several towns in line. You should have seen hundred year old trees uprooted and laying on their sides, or over houses. The leaves blown off trees were like a capret in the towns. No power still in some areas. I was in the town when it first began, heading to home, when the hail stones started beating on my car. We have not seen tornados here in the Northeast for many years. The weather sure has changed in the 55 years I have been here! Rainy and cool almost every single day.

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PamB on June 29, 2009 at 08:47 AM

Doesn't matter whether it was a gal or guy, Johne, Sandford just proved to be another one of those pretend "Family Value" Repugs. More are exposed every single day. All that adultry, perversion comes from their attempts to pretend they are so holy and religious !

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PamB on June 29, 2009 at 08:49 AM

Something just occurred to me. I can't remember if it was when raygun was governor or when he was pretend president but I have a quote from his own mouth.

"Taxes should hurt." "Then people will rise up and do away with government."

This would explain the largest tax increase in history in the 1980's.

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Johne on June 29, 2009 at 08:50 AM

going out to string trim and work in gardens for a little while before the rains come again..........

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PamB on June 29, 2009 at 08:50 AM

Off to work. bbl.

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Johne on June 29, 2009 at 08:52 AM

Once again proving that President Obama plays chess while the neo-cons play "whack-a-mole".

Has There Been a Military Coup in Iran by the Revolutionary Guard in Iran?

So the Imams are as irrelevant there as the Pugs are here?

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on June 29, 2009 at 09:21 AM

Hello?

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IowaHenry on June 30, 2009 at 04:23 PM

Oops wrong day.

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IowaHenry on June 30, 2009 at 04:27 PM


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