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Yes, Poor Obama INHERITED the biggest mess in history !
Yikes, only 57%! what a shame, and that is because of this Inherited economy which took 8 years to dig us into, and will take years to dig us out !
Obama Approval Rating Slips to 57 Percent
CBS News Poll: President Loses Support Amid Concerns About Economy
The president's current approval rating, which is 57 percent, is still relatively high.
The driving issue behind the president’s decline in approval appears to be the economy.
Pam. I remember that "smoking jacket" line too. He was going out to a cocktail party / nice dinner.
I guess it was a joke which meant it was a run to the case and can store for a bottle of Muscatel and a Slim Jim.
But once again, ignore the ignorant trolls.
good morning pam another beautiful day in the northeast!
it's funny how after five months in office the troll and other cranks want us to worry about how obama's poll numbers. here is something for the troll and company to worry about...the repelicans have voted against every single obama initiative to fix the economy, protect the environment, improve the health care of the country and so on....when these initiatives which are about issues that real people care about work what will the landscape look like for the extremely weak repelican party?? answer--very grim indeedy do....
dpd, great piece on the climate change denier nut. and isn't that name of his a bit......french?? the horror, the horror!
Good morning, again.
I swear these Republicans are truly suicidal....
GOP Senate Candidate Blunt Attacks Government Health Care -- Like Medicare And Medicaid
By Eric Kleefeld
July 10, 2009
Rep. Roy Blunt (R-MO), the likely Republican nominee in this swing state's top-tier 2010 Senate race, made a very interesting statement about health care reform: Suggesting that government should never have gotten involved in health care through Medicare and Medicaid back in the 1960s -- and possibly blaming those programs for the problems we have today.
"Well, you could certainly argue that government should have never have gotten in the health care business, and that might have been the best argument of all, to figure out how people could have had more access to a competitive marketplace," Blunt said during a radio interview. "Government did get into the health care business in a big way in 1965 with Medicare, and later with Medicaid, and government already distorts the marketplace."
"A government competitor would drive all the other competitors away," he explained. "What we should be doing is creating more competition. One of the reasons the marketplace doesn't work the way it should work right now is we really don't have the competitive marketplace that I'd like to see put in place."...
Distorts the marketplace? Who encouraged American corporations to outsource all their assets to other countries and re-invest all their profits there?
Well, at least he's admitting that "the best health care system in the world" sucks and that the conservatives knew about it ever since the Reagan Revolution and did nothing to correct it.
It's funny how every time they try to explain something it only makes it more difficult for them to evade the their own incompetence. People have actually come to expect it.
Gotta run. later.
when these initiatives which are about issues that real people care about work what will the landscape look like for the extremely weak repelican party?? answer--very grim indeedy do....
5gregg on July 14, 2009 at 09:34 AM
Gregg, they just don't seem to get it !
This is what lost them the last 2 elections, yet they are continuing the same path! Obviously, the lack of any kind of leadership has taken it's toll. The party that thought it was so superior, has shown it's ugly dumb head.
stick to the truth if you can, Thomasss, you never saw me praising Dictators!!!
That mental disorder of your's is beginning to border on some real problems! Hard to find anything positive to say about your own party, isn't it? tough luck you had to inherit the greedy, racist genes, instead of the ones Jesus had !
What another vacation day ane no where to go, no one to do anything with? No yard or projects to take care of? I am amazed at how sub-human, abnormal, you Republicans are !
DPD,
isn't it amusing, that the real extreme hard core reich wingers, still have a resentment against France and Germany, because they were the only two countries which would not go along with Bush's illegal invasion and lies into Iraq! For some reason, even after all has been exposed (no WMDs, no 9/11 connection, no terrorists, Saddam no worse than many other dictators), they still stick up for Bush and his Failures !
a good read:
"It's safe to say that a large majority of the "Limbaugh-Palin-Hannity" populist Republican teabaggers are open or covert racists. The world is changing around them; whites are destined to become the minority in America, as they already have in our largest state, California. This is a scary and -- shall we say -- unsettling thought to a lot of people who have assumed entitlement just for being born white and Christian.
That is one of the reasons Christian fundamentalism plays such a big role in the grassroots of the Republican Party. The leaders of this faction make no bones about believing America is a manifestation of God's will that white Christians should govern.
So, it is a kick in the gut to the populist "white is right" base of the GOP to see President Obama appoint so many people of color to high positions.
Sonia Sotomayor will be confirmed as a Justice of the Supreme Court, as she should be -- on her merits. But it will only be after the Republican senators perform for their racially explosive base who think that the end of America is at hand because white people no longer completely control its destiny.
Just remember that thought when you watch or read about the Sotomayor hearings. There are a lot of Republicans who are patriotic as long as the white guys are in charge, but once real demographic democracy takes over they believe the apocalypse is at hand.
Old man Dick, still has his daughter out pimping for him!
Liz Cheney refuses to discuss veep's role in CIA
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_cia_concealment
how embarassing to be the daughter of one of the most vile, hated men in History!
Cool, Gregg!
Howsa 'bout from Casablanca?
"Take THAT, you invaders and occupiers!"
The Republican Blight Wing is such a Cheney Blackwater demand for secrecy that one needs to reach level 33 to know all its secrets. Even at that level their are no national leaders, just the men with no faces, who hide among us worldwide.
Why Cheney demanded a level beyond Bush and all of Congress, but in the end because of publicity that claim will wilt away, as supporters learn to side by him means Terminated for Liability. Who in the Intelligence Agencies will side with someone who may have blown an agents cover? I think that those that support the Constitution in the CIA, FBI, and NSA plus others will do their Plame reporting of Patriotism. I salute those that opposed Cheney's direct acquisition of the CIA bypassing Congress and its CIA Director. How many sub ordinates defied the real chain of command?
I guess those bailouts were not such a bad idea after all........
"Goldman's profit would have been better had it not been for a charge taken to repay the government investment.
In early June, Goldman became one of the first banks to repay the government TARP funds it received. The government provided banks with capital in exchange for preferred stock and warrants to purchase common shares. The program was launched last fall after Lehman Brothers collapsed and insurer American International Group Inc. needed a government bailout to remain in business.
The government investment also included certain restrictions, such as caps on executive compensation.
WHEN SHOULD WE GIVE OTHERS OR OURSELVES PUBLIC CREDIT FOR MAKING BETTER DECISIONS THAT OTHERS IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC MIGHT NOT MAKE, AS SONIA SOTOMAYOR SPOKE OF 10 OR 20 YEARS AGO, AND WHEN SHOULD WE NOT?
Thank god there was some wise FBI Agents and Police Officers in the Chicago area who had enough experience to take someone’s complaint about cemetery plot reselling serious enough to investigate, because it was an unbelievable crime that others in law enforcement without the same experiences might have dismissed as simply being one misunderstanding somehow.
We could have thanked wise Republican leaders in the government if they had learned from their yes-man-political-decision experience working for the Bush Administration for now making better decisions than the white male, George Bush; however, they’re still doing it, now making their no-decisions strictly for political purposes.
Republican leader’s lack of reasoning in pledging to not vote for Sonia Sotomayor before they even ask her about her position on issues during the Confirmation Hearing insults their constituents by not using the hearing to make the case for their agenda to possibly build on Sonia Sotomayor’s good objective take between U.S. Law and the issues.
I mean Republican Constituents might as well just contribute 50 cents and a six-pack for a vote either way and hope for the best.
WHEN SHOULD WE GIVE OTHERS OR OURSELVES PUBLIC CREDIT FOR MAKING BETTER DECISIONS THAT OTHERS IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC MIGHT NOT MAKE, AS SONIA SOTOMAYOR SPOKE OF 10 OR 20 YEARS AGO, AND WHEN SHOULD WE NOT?
Thank god there was some wise FBI Agents and Police Officers in the Chicago area who had enough experience to take someone’s complaint about cemetery plot reselling serious enough to investigate, because it was an unbelievable crime that others in law enforcement without the same experiences might have dismissed as simply being one misunderstanding somehow.
We could have thanked wise Republican leaders in the government if they had learned from their yes-man-political-decision experience working for the Bush Administration for now making better decisions than the white male, George Bush; however, they’re still doing it, now making their no-decisions strictly for political purposes.
Republican leader’s lack of reasoning in pledging to not vote for Sonia Sotomayor before they even ask her about her position on issues during the Confirmation Hearing insults their constituents by not using the hearing to make the case for their agenda to possibly build on Sonia Sotomayor’s good objective take between U.S. Law and the issues.
I mean Republican Constituents might as well just contribute 50 cents and a six-pack for a vote either way and hope for the best.
Cheney reminds me of Col. Oliver North, but acting as President.
If President Obama would stand up to the Cheney/Bush reign, he would gain a hero status in History, but he will probably surrender fearing being labeled Liberal in supporting the Constitution's Paramount Concrete Accounting to Truth. He will be like some Popes in the past hiding its skeletal Holocaust Abu Ghraib powers of abuse that tortures History until revealed in a cleansing of the spirit of a healing nation of living in Truth rather that what "Lies" in Washington Blackwater secrecy.
Give me Free Speech Poetry over eminent domain edicts of poetic censorship. I wonder how many civilians were censured by Cheney intimidation into silence by amputating their words rights.
It seems that the CIA and other agencies were run from the Vice President office that had immunity from Congressional oversight, while the Bush Administration put puppet figureheads in with no rights to needs to know, while the select inner circle had closed door meeting with Big Oil, and those Creative Intelligence loyalists. That way they could do all their damage without Congressional Oversight, except those in Congress who reported to Cheney's inner circle of covert actions.
yawnnnnn, these trolls just don't see how childish and shrill they are. Gawd, how it has totally killed them, that
THEY LOST
WE WON !!!
heehee.........
(ps, thomasss, hold up a pair of size 4 petite capris next time you are in Walmart buying your clothes, and I think you will have to agree, I am not fat at all!)
After Republican Senator Hatch tried to politically play on one case out of hundreds that Sonia Sotomayor ruled over that was once overturned by a five to four Supreme Court ruling, I hope others realize that this 5 to 4 vote was not like an 8 to 1 vote. Obviously, even other Supreme Court Judges saw this one case that Sotomayor ruled over in the same manner as she, in a case that was so intellectually legally challenged, that it made it to the Supreme Court where her decision was almost half approved of after the Supreme Courts careful analysis.
I like the intellectual challenge that Sotomayor gave to this campaign through her past comments, and I almost appreciate the media not presenting the entire text in which her comments were made which makes us wonder in what text her comments might be appropriate. It leads some of us to be more aware that some people in our society deserve public credit for their carefully thought out decisions coming at no better time for America when George Bush and Richard Cheney slighted decisions that were suppose to me made by our Democracy.
Typical Republican Double Standard Hypocrisy:
Grassley Admits That ‘Empathy Standard’ He Finds ‘Troubling’ In Sotomayor Didn’t Apply To Alito
During the opening day of confirmation hearings, Judge Sonia Sotomayor came under fire from Sen. Charles Grassley (R-IA) for stating that her experiences as a Latina affects her judicial outlook. “This empathy standard is troubling to me,” Grassley said. “The Constitution requires that judges be free from personal politics … feelings and preferences.”
But Grassley never objected when Judge Samuel Alito said virtually the same thing during his confirmation hearing, when Alito testified he “can’t help but think of” his immigrant family when evaluating immigration cases:
When I get a case about discrimination, I have to think about people in my own family who suffered discrimination because of their ethnic background, or because of religion or because of gender, and I do take that in to account.
Then yesterday, Grassley admitted to applying a double standard to Sotomayor during an interview with NPR’s Robert Siegel. Siegel reminded Grassley that during Alito’s confirmation hearing, the judge said his background plays a role in his judicial philosophy — and Alito still managed to secure Grassley’s support:
NPR: By your standard that would be disqualifying. He should have said instead my family, my background counts for nothing.
GRASSLEY: That’s absolutely right. […]
NPR: But you didn’t vote against Justice Alito’s confirmation.
GRASSLEY: No I didn’t.
Also in Alito’s confirmation hearing, the judge referenced his father’s experience as the basis of his view on district reapportionment. The answer was in response to a questions asked by Grassley. Alito’s testimony and subsequent ruling in Ricci v. DeStefano prompted Salon’s Glenn Greenwald to ask in jest: “Did Alito’s Italian-American ethnic background cause him to cast his vote in favor of the Italian-American plaintif
Re: Liz Cheney, how embarassing to be the daughter of one of the most vile, hated men in History!
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PamB on July 14, 2009 at 10:42 AM
Yes, but she definitely lives up to the title! Does she not?
He, He, He - This is good - first she got Grassley and now Sessions. This woman is good!
Sotomayor Surprises Sessions
Ouch!
Sen. Jeff Sessions (R., Ala.), seeking to discredit Judge Sonia Sotomayor’s judicial philosophy, cited her 2001 “wise Latina” speech, and contrasted the view that ethnicity and sex influence judging with that of Judge Miriam Cedarbaum, who “believes that judges must transcend their personal sympathies and prejudices.”
Sen. Jeff Sessions (R., Ala.), ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, questions Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor, during her confirmation hearing before the committee Tuesday. Sen. Orrin Hatch (R., Utah) is at left.
“So I would just say to you, I believe in Judge Cedarbaum’s formulation,” Sessions told Sotomayor.
“My friend Judge Cedarbaum is here,” Sotomayor riposted, to Sessions’ apparent surprise. “We are good friends, and I believe that we both approach judging in the same way, which is looking at the facts of each individual case and applying the law to those facts.”
Cedarbaum agreed.
“I don’t believe for a minute that there are any differences in our approach to judging, and her personal predilections have no effect on her approach to judging,” she told Washington Wire. “We’d both like to see more women on the courts,” she added.
Cedarbaum, a pioneering woman lawyer who graduated from Columbia Law School in 1953, goes way back with both participants in the colloquy. Cedarbaum mentored Sotomayor after she joined the federal district court in Manhattan in 1992, and they have been close friends ever since.
In 1986, Cedarbaum and Sessions were both nominated to the federal bench by President Ronald Reagan, and were members of the same orientation class for future judges. Their paths then diverged, however. Cedarbaum was confirmed, but Sessions nomination floundered over a controversy surrounding comments he made involving the Ku Klux Klan and the NAACP.
sighhhhh, these trolls just can't take the rejection of elimination, nor the hint that they are stalking where they are not welcome! But then manners nor corruption, nor crimes, nor sexual perversion never mattered to a Republican---the Party of I will do what I want to, and no one better tell me otherewise.!
Let me wise you up there a little, you misguided litte man:
After eight years of trying to tell me and every other Democrat that any attitude other than getting 100% behind the US President, no matter who he may be, means you are a traitor, your frenzied antipathy toward Obama makes you all seem like the most ridiculous of hypocrites on the American political scene.
You might want to think about that some. and what hypocrites you are now!!!
Look, YOU LOST ! WE WON !
Remember back in 2000 and 2004, when you told us to Suck it Up???? WELL SUCK IT UP AND QUIT THE SOUR GRAPES , YOU SORE LOSER !!
Right now (still on CNBC, but by the time I post this they might be done) Pelosi & Hoyer are making an announcement that the Health Care Reform Bill has been hammered out with the Pugs and will be released later today if not first thing tomorrow morning. They are all smiles.
I guess we'll see what is in it then.
One should not come stalking into an opposing blog, not even you children, and try and pretend you know something about grammar!
Obviously, you are out of summer school for the day, because you are flunking your grade.
The Democratic Party is one of the two major contemporary political parties in the United States, along with the Republican Party. It is the oldest political party in continuous operation in the United States and it is one of the oldest parties in the world.[3][4] Today, the party supports a center-left platform.[5]
The Democratic Party has the most registered voters of any party as of 2004, with 72 million voters.[6] Polls taken over the last decade indicate 34% to 36% of American voters self-identify as Democrats.[7]
Since the 2006 general elections, the Democratic Party has been the majority party with the seating of the 110th Congress; the party holds a majority in both the House of Representatives and the United States Senate. Democrats also hold a majority of state governorships and control a majority of state legislatures. Barack Obama, the current President of the United States, is the 16th Democrat to hold that office.
remember when these same freakzoids shielded and supported flip flop Roberts and Wimpy Alito???
Republicans Deride Sotomayor Testimony as 'Confirmation Conversion'
http://news.yahoo.com/s/cq/20090714/pl_cq_politics/politics3165735
Can you believe the balls on Palin, to try and even pretend she KNOWS what cap and trade is, say nothing about writing a piece on it? This bimbo gets more ridiculous every day, and the media that goes along with her is assanine !
"Just when you think a Washington institution has hit rock bottom, the bottom drops out. No, we're not talking about the woeful Washington Nationals. I wish we were. No, this is about the Washington Post, and it's this morning's sad tale.
Sarah Palin on the op-ed page "writing" about cap-and-trade. Or, as Palin might put it, "cap and..."
With all the talk about how newspapers are dying, can we add one more reason to the list of horribles -- suicide. The "salon" scandal still hasn't died down, not after the paper's ombudsman published his scathing critique calling the intimate dinners at publisher Katharine Weymouth's house an "ethical lapse of monumental proportions." The damage to the credibility of the paper can't be measured. How often does a publisher print a mea culpa as Weymouth did?
How does the Post regain its equilibrium? How does it recover not only from this disaster but also from the dismissal of popular blogger Dan Froomkin, whose sacking led to great protests from the readers the Post execs didn't think existed?
Why, by putting the soon-to-be ex-gov on the op-ed page, one of the prime places of real estate left in the newspaper world? Not to put too fine a point on it -- is there any sane person left over in the Post management?
The op-ed page, despite what conservatives say, is seen by progressives as a neo-con haven, sheltering talents like Jim Hoagland and conservatives like Kathleen Parker. But Palin is another case entirely. It's not simply that no one who saw her last two press conferences about her quitting Alaska for the bright lights of the Lower 48 believes she actually wrote the piece. Ghost-writing is a fine established art. Few politicians do their own writing.
It's quite another to believe that she actually knows or cares sufficiently about cap-and-trade and environmental legislation to care enough to write about it for a major newspaper. And even if she does, what possible justification on Earth is there for the Post publishing her?
The only one I can think of is to "get people talking" about the Post page. To create "buzz." Well, there's good "buzz" and bad "buzz." This is definitely the latter. It's not only that Palin has no constituency to speak of. It's not even that she has been trashed by the right, in addition to criticism by the left. She has no authority to write an article like this and the Post has no business running one.
At the least, and it's a far stretch, a global-warming denier like Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) represents a constituency -- the oil industry and the people of his state. Palin has just abandoned whatever electoral constituency she had, and now the Post is helping to establish herself in this brave new world of hers with conservative celebritydom and punditocracy.
The Lerner family, the owners of the Nationals, finally let their manager go after one too many embarrassments. It's time for the owners of the Post to wake up and to realize that having a joke of an op-ed page is no joke.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/art-brodsky/how-much-more-pathetic-ca_b_231365.html
PamB on July 14, 2009 at 03:29 PM
Back during the VP debate, she was all for "Cap and Trade" wasn't she? Didn't she and McCain both support Cap and Trade policies?
MaryMac, I am always too busy LMAO, or shaking my head back and forth when Palin is talking, to remember any points she tried to make!
Isn't it too funny, these 'pretend' ex military men, who say no matter who the CIC is, you must respect him, DARE to say otherwise now?? They don't seem to get it----THE AMERICAN PUBLIC VOTED FOR THIS SO CALLED SOCIALIST PRESIDENT AND UNLESS THEY WANT TO MOVE, THEY ARE STUCK WITH HIM!
Tough luck, losers!!!!!!!!!!!
So Thomasssssss,
Socialism run amok? Are you going to renounce YOUR medicare when you are eligible? Were you in the Military and can take advantage of the VA benefits? Both of these are socialistic programs. Or is it just socialism when it is paying for a program you don't like? There are programs set aside for the elderly, many of whom can not work; the children and babies - who can not work - should we just let them die because their parents are unlucky enough not to have jobs? That's not very Christian is it? What these tea parties were protesting was Bushs tax rates. Obama hasn't had any yet. He wants to tax the rich like they were under Clinton. What is fair about a rich person making 17 times more than a regular person and paying perhaps 2-3% of that in taxes? Does that money go into your pocket? To feed your family? NO. Obama is not a socialist - even the socialists say so. He is not a fascist and he is not a communist. So, perhaps you should wake up and find out what the issues really are. As for pork - well, it is pork as long as it belongs to someone else - when it is yours it is called necessary spending.
You guys are such Hypocrites, it is sickening !
Looks like the American People knew exactly what they were getting when they voted !!
"Barack Obama won a decisive victory against John McCain - winning 365 electoral votes to McCain's 173 and winning the popular vote by 9 million - the largest popular vote margin ever for a non-incumbent"
You got a Mandate, Obama, You go Guy"
You guys are such Hypocrites, it is sickening !
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PamB on July 14, 2009 at 04:25 PM
You go girl! I love it!
AFternoon Bob: I hope that you are well today.
Does anyone have any updates on the hearings. I haven't been near a TV all day and I was just wondering if the 'questioning' portion of the hearings are over?
House bill to hit millionaires with 5.4 pct surtaxWASHINGTON, July 14 (Reuters) - A sweeping overhaul of the U.S. healthcare system to be announced on Tuesday in the U.S. House of Representatives will include a surtax on millionaires of 5.4 percent, congressional sources said.
The tax rate is higher than the 3 percent surtax lawmakers had been discussing earlier and would be imposed on those making more than $1 million a year, the sources said.
(Reporting by Donna Smith; Editing by Sandra Maler)
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSWEN055320090714
While I am completely supportive of any additional surtax on the fat cats, this is a better way to do this. We ought to remove the FICA and Medicare caps on the payroll taxes. Currently, you're taxed 6.2% for everything up to approximately $100K for Social Security (FICA) and 1.8%, if memory serves, for Medicare. Simply remove the caps.
This solves the alleged Social Security insolvency issue coming up around 2042 and the boost to Medicare would go a long way in paying for the single payer insurance every American should have. However, since the POTUS declared no tax increases on anyone making less than $250K per year, we could simply restart the tax for all money made over $250K per year. Therefore, a person making $100K would pay the same payroll tax as a person making $250K and the POTUS would not have to break his campaign promise.
Regardless of how it's done, as Gov. Long (D-AL)used to say, it's time to soak the fat cats and spread it out thin.
BobVADemocratHawk on July 14, 2009 at 04:41 PM
Don't forget that employers pay the same amount toward social security and medicare. If the employee contributes 6.2% of $100,000.00 which is $6,200 his/her employer will contribute on his/her behalf $6,200.
Back during the VP debate, she was all for "Cap and Trade" wasn't she? Didn't she and McCain both support Cap and Trade policies?
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marymac_memphis on July 14, 2009 at 04:09 PM
Here it is, Mary:
Flashback: When Asked If She Supported Capping Carbon, Palin Said, ‘I Do’ (With Video)
Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on July 14, 2009 at 05:16 PM
Thanx! I was sure that I had seen that! Nice to know that i wasn't imagining it!
Happy All Star game day fellow baseball fan! (To you too Sandy, when you come in!)
Sen. Kyl made a big mistake in my opinion. He came across as nothing but a politically opportunistic bully in the hearings today:
Sen. Jon Kyl gave a lengthy speech during his question and answer session with Sonia Sotomayor that was undoubtedly the type of red-meat inquiry for which conservatives pined.
The Arizona Republican accused the Obama Court nominee of "embracing" the different jurisprudence that women and Hispanics could bring to the court, of championing the idea of judges having personal interpretation of law, and of "relativism run amok."
In what was far more a lecture than a back-and-forth (Kyl went on for nearly ten minutes before allowing Sotomayor to answer) the senator did not reference a single case decided during the judge's career. Rather, he honed in on the infamous "wise Latina" remarks delivered on several occasions during her public speeches.
"You seem to be celebrating [the superiority of being a minority judge]," Kyl said at one point. "You understand it will make a difference," he added at another point. "And not only are you not saying anything negative about that. But you are embracing [it]."
Finally, after waiting her turn, a somewhat exasperated Sotomayor chimed in, noting that there was little of substance in Kyl's critique.
"I have a record for 17 years, decision after decision," she replied. "It is very clear that I don't base my judgments on my personal experiences or my feelings or my biases. All of my decisions show my respect for the rule of law." -- Sam Stein
marymac_memphis on July 14, 2009 at 04:56 PM
That's correct. Thanks for pointing it out. We could waive the employer side of the equation.
Regardless, I doubt they take up my plan. The 5.4% millionaire plan will generate a lot of revenue that was frittered away by the previous administration, though.
This is really good. I found it over on Huffpo:
What Gov. Palin Forgot by Sen. John Kerry
Writing in this morning's Washington Post, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin wrote, "many in the national media would rather focus on the personality-driven political gossip of the day than on the gravity of these challenges."
Unfortunately, her promise to roll up her sleeves and tackle serious issues is followed by a column that focuses on everything but the single grave challenge that forms the basis of all of our actions: the crisis of global climate change.
Yes, she manages to write about the climate change action in Congress without ever mentioning the reason we are doing this in the first place. It's like complaining about the cost of repairing a roof without factoring in the leaks destroying your home.
The global climate change crisis threatens our economy and our national security in profound ways. Governor Palin need look no further than the view from her front porch in Alaska to see how destructive this crisis can be. The small native village of Newtok is being literally wiped off the map because of a melting permafrost and disappearing sea ice. The New York Times reported nearly two years ago:
"The earth beneath much of Alaska is not what it used to be. The permanently frozen subsoil, known as permafrost, upon which Newtok and so many other Native Alaskan villages rest, is melting, yielding to warming air temperatures and a warming ocean. Sea ice that would normally protect coastal villages is forming later in the year, allowing fall storms to pound away at the shoreline.
Erosion has made Newtok an island, caught between the ever widening Ninglick River and a slough to the north. The village is below sea level, and sinking. Boardwalks squish into the spring muck.....The ragged wooden houses have to be adjusted regularly to level them on the shifting soil.
Studies say Newtok could be washed away within a decade. Along with the villages of Shishmaref and Kivalina farther to the north, it has been the hardest hit of about 180 Alaska villages that suffer some degree of erosion"
Since then, the citizens of Newtok voted to move their village to higher ground nine miles away.
Around the world, the effects are already being felt. The Himalayan glaciers, source for almost all the major rivers of India and China, are shrinking, putting the future water resources of billions of people in doubt. Shifting weather patterns may turn the American "breadbasket" into a dustbowl. And stronger storms and rising sea levels can devastate coastal communities across our country and around the world.
All of these effects (and many, many more) will have a devastating effect on our economy and threaten our national security. For example, just imagine the situation in India and Pakistan if the rivers on which the region depends for agriculture dry up. Imagine how much worse the problems of poverty, terrorism, and instability would become in that situation.
Reading Gov Palin's op-ed too often it sounds like the only threats America faces are solely economic. But that's not what our intelligence experts and military leaders tell us. General Anthony Zinni, a rock-jawed military man and former commander of our forces in the Middle East who is tough to peg as any sort of climate alarmist warned that without action -- and I quote -- "we will pay the price later in military terms. And that will involve human lives. There will be a human toll."
We can't afford to ignore this reality -- in an op-ed column or in our public debate over an entire piece on legislation designed to meet these challenges. An op-ed on Guantanamo policy that fails to acknowledge the existence of terrorists would not be taken seriously. Neither should an op-ed on energy reform that fails to mention the irrefutable reality of climate change.
And, unfortunately, even in the areas Gov. Palin does focus on, she gets things wrong. She focuses on energy production, but ignores the huge expansion of new, clean energy sources made possible through smart energy reform legislation.
She says that, "The Americans hit hardest will be those already struggling to make ends meet." That's incorrect: The Congressional Budget Office's analysis says, of the measurable costs, "Households in the lowest income quintile would see an average net benefit of about $40 in 2020, while households in the highest income quintile would see a net cost of $245."
Governor Palin also states of energy reform legislation: "It is an enormous threat to our economy." Once again, this is just wrong. Palin confidently claims job losses are "certain," she somehow neglects to mention that jobs in our emerging clean energy economy grew nearly two and a half times faster than overall jobs since 1998. And objective analysis indicates, at most, a nominal cost to the economy and, at best, a significant benefit.
And here's the big thing: almost all of these models don't take into the account the enormously destructive effects of doing nothing. This legislation will be a clear win for the economy -- and for our future economic security.
We need a 21st century economy that is powered by clean, renewable energy sources, and uses that energy efficiently and wisely. But the reality is that we will reform our energy economy not only because of the upside, but also because we must do so if we are to avoid a climate catastrophe. Our climate demands it, our economy needs it, and our security depends on it.
To get this right, we need an honest debate that focuses on the real issues. Both Democrats and Republicans will be better off if Governor Palin joins the debate we need to have -- one about climate change as well as energy security -- rather than leaving so many important details on the editing room floor.
BobVADemocratHawk on July 14, 2009 at 05:36 PM
I agree. I like the sur-tax but I would prefer a flat 10%;but, as a wise man once pointed out to me (that would be you!), one must be practical and fight the fights than can be won ;-)
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marymac_memphis on July 14, 2009 at 05:28 PM
Sen. Kyl acted the way I expected him to. After all, he has to kiss up to his constituency which includes the Hispanic-hating Minute Men, so he has to come off like a racist jerk. Of course if he wasn't a racist jerk, would he have been a Republican in the first place?
Soldier balks at deploying; says Obama isn’t presidentBy Lily Gordon
U.S. Army Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook, set to deploy to Afghanistan, says he shouldn’t have to go.
His reason? Barack Obama was never eligible to be president because he wasn’t born in the United States.
Cook’s lawyer, Orly Taitz, who has also challenged the legitimacy of Obama’s presidency in other courts, filed a request last week in federal court seeking a temporary restraining order and status as a conscientious objector for his client.
In the 20-page document — filed July 8 with the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia — the California-based Taitz asks the court to consider granting his client’s request based upon Cook’s belief that Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and is therefore ineligible to serve as commander-in-chief of the U.S. Armed Forces.
Cook further states he “would be acting in violation of international law by engaging in military actions outside the United States under this President’s command. ... simultaneously subjecting himself to possible prosecution as a war criminal by the faithful execution of these duties.”
Cook, a reservist, received the orders mobilizing him to active duty on June 9.
According to this document, which accompanies Cook’s July 8 application for a temporary restraining order, he has been ordered to report to MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, Fla., on Wednesday. From there, the Florida resident would go to Fort Benning before deploying overseas.
Documents show Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, two years after it became a state.
A hearing to discuss Cook’s requests will take place in federal court here Thursday at 9:30 a.m.
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/story/776335.html
First and foremost, Orly Taitz is a right-wing hack milking this so called citizenship issue for every bit of quasi-publicity it is worth. He has had a number of similar suits fail in the past as no doubt this one will.
But most importantly, Major Cook is out of line. President Obama is as legitimate as President Bush 43, President Clinton, or any other POTUS. The Electoral College made it so as the same Electoral College for President Obama's forty-three predecessors.
The Major is AWOL and should this action go past thrity days he should be considered a deserter. And in wartime, desertion is a capital offense and should be treated as such. We are still a nation of law, not men. Major Cook is a disgrace to his uniform and this great nation of ours.
Butte:
Good point. I was thinking in terms of his re-election campaign and thought that this type of appearance would hurt him; but, you are correct in that I need to remember who elected him in the first place. (A version of 'consider the source' I guess! LOL)
BobVADemocratHawk on July 14, 2009 at 06:11 PM
The military can 'kick out' people for being gay but they keep this 'yahoo?' He's probably scared of going to a war zone - I know that I would be - but he's coming up with excuses to serve. You are absolutely right about him being a deserter!
I was just reading about the health care reform plans that are now out of committee (s) in the house. I'm going to have to do a lot more reading before I understand them. One questions to anyone who knows: will the public option be open only to individuals and families to purchase on their own or will it be open to employers and other groups (such as unions) to purchase the same way that private insurance is purchased now.
I am one of the very fortunate ones in that my employer furnishes and pays 100% of the premiums for me for both health and dental - we have high deductibles ($2,000 for health and $1,000 for dental) each year but no monthly premiums but I am wondering if my employer will be able to save some money with the public option. Does anyone know?
marymac_memphis on July 14, 2009 at 05:45 PM
While I can respect your position on the flat tax, Mary, I have to respectfully disagree. With very, very few exceptions, there is not a single rich person who got that way without making it off the backs of good, hard working people like ourselves. A flat tax penalizes the poor and lets the rich get away.
The CEO of McDonald's did not flip a single burger today. Steve Jobs did not construct one single iPod today. Even Bill Gates, who is a great philanthropist, didn't write a single line of code today. For far too long, the rich have been getting richer off of our backs and this has to end. So it begs the question, which is better; one person with a billion dollars or 10K people with $100K each?
Is this class warfare? Yup, it sure is my friend. And we need to wake up to it because the rich have been perpretrating it on us for decades if not centuries.
It seems the more I weather like a hundred dollar bill (in Terminated for Poetry), the more time leaves me with Lincoln penny remains. It seems that since Kennedy, there has been no President that is worth being put on our currency.
12 bodies found in Mexico drug war zone
Off-duty federal officers had been tortured, officials say
MORELIA, Mexico (AP)- Twelve people tortured, slain and dumped along a mountain road in a drug-plagued Mexican state were off-duty federal agents, an official said Tuesday. It is one of boldest attacks on federal forces since President Felipe Calderon launched his national war on drugs.Mexico’s national security spokesman Monte Alejandro Rubido said the 11 men and one woman were investigating crime in Calderon’s home state of Michoacan, which has been a center of his crackdown on organized crime.
They were ambushed by members of the La Familia drug cartel, Rubido said. Their bodies were found piled up along a mountain highway late Monday near the town of La Huacana.
Michoacan state prosecutor J. Jesus Montejano initially said Tuesday that they were soldiers, but the army denied that. His office later acknowledged the mistake.
Montejano said the case was turned over to the federal attorney general’s office. There have been no arrests so far...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31909590/ns/world_news-americas/
I'll say it again. Seal the border, Mr. President. Deploy the TX, NM, AZ, and CA National Guards. It's obvious President Calderon does not have his nation's security under control and it would be naive to believe he has U.S. interests in mind.
If you finally want to make the war on drugs succesful, Mr. President, seal the southern border and blow up anything that comes within a kilometer of it. Either that or legalize pot and tax the hell out of it. It really is that simple, sir.
I'm sorry Bob! Oops - my bad for not being specific. I was referring to the other sur-tax plan (that was abandonded) for taxing those with Million dollar incomes the sur-tax of 10% of everything over a Million! My bad!
marymac_memphis on July 14, 2009 at 06:19 PM
It is a strange dichotomy, isn't it?
marymac_memphis on July 14, 2009 at 06:53 PM
Not to bother, my friend. Thanks for clarifying.
Good night fellow Americans. Keep the Faith and keep the faith. Yes we can, yes we will, and yes we did!
With President Obama being micro managed, he is slipping too fast, he needs a meeting to get him in sync with the people, he is now being played like Carter. The fact is, if given the choice, of Caroline Kennedy or Barrack Obama right know, I would choose Caroline. Time to send the Democratic Party troops out into mainstream America and get their vibrations, or soon he might even join Bush's falling star. Obama needs a Gettysburg Address, A MLK dream, and/or ask not what you do for your country speech. Right know it is a delicate balance of just right exposure with the right props about believing in our Children futures birthrights. The sad fact is some of Obama supporters have been turned off.
A President can be a star overseas, and start to be a failure in his own country. He needs the right props around him, like a public school that is suffering blight with the grade school children around him, Barrack explaining that everyone must work together in harmony of God Bless Made in America, where the children lift their flags to show America's faith in accomplishing dreams.
The sad Inquisition is that Cheney is still in the chain of command, like Putin is in Russia. Cheney is still being supplied data from his secret comrades cohorts.
It seems the Patriot Act need is for Cheney, where AT&T, Microsoft, and the FBI monitor him with warrant less searches, and invasive maneuvers getting at the Truth of Cheney Abu Ghraib reasoning..
Good evening, all.
I'm just stopping by to see what's on everyone's mind tonight before I start watching the All Star pre-game stuff.
BobVADemocratHawk on July 14, 2009 at 04:41 PM
Hi, Bob.
Why can't we levy both?
Certainly after all the welfare that the wealthy has gotten during the last eight years, there has to be a few spare dimes knocking around in the pockets of those making over $1 million a year. They couldn't be still gambling it away. And then they have those bonuses from the TARP still streaming in.
The wealthy should feel privileged that they will finally be contributing to a real "trickle down" effect...one which the GOP never could seem to make happen. If the upper crust ever want to be looked on as pillars of the community again instead of irresponsible clods, they better start contributing to the common good instead of their vices.
After all, working folks can't afford taxes either but conservatives in Congress have never had any qualms about taking them right out of our paychecks and forcing us to pay sales tax up front before we eat. The rich will learn to live with automatic withdrawals, too. You betcha.
The bigger the better...the faster things will turn around. Go rich people. We know you can do it.
later.
Either that or legalize pot and tax the hell out of it. It really is that simple, sir.
59BobVADemocratHawk on July 14, 2009 at 06:51 PM
hiya bob. I wish they would tax the hell out of the legal stuff first...cigs, booze
YOur party CLAIMS to be tolerant. The irony in that is you people are the most INTOLERANT group I have ever met.
46MelodicMetal on July 14, 2009 at 05:18 PM
The party is tolerant, sometimes it's members are not.
You are wrong, mr metal...I am the most tolerant person you will meet here, and I'm one of the charter members on this blog.
hi mary. I'm well. I hope you are too. busy at the office and busy here on weekends. through the week, we restore! (from all the work we do on weekend!)
we have some interesting primary challenges next year.
The irony in that is you people are the most INTOLERANT group I have ever met.
46MelodicMetal on July 14, 2009 at 05:18 PM
when have you met all of us? I thought you were new here? or are you a remake of a leftover?
Esme: We have an interesting mayoral race coming up. Our current mayor is rumored to be under investigation by the FBI and has announced his plan to 'retire' before the end of his term - hopefully by the end of the month. The 'special' election will be held in the fall, which will be relatively quick. I have an idea of who some of the candidates will be but I'm not sure who I will support as of yet.
Esmeralda on July 14, 2009 at 07:50 PM
That particular troll posting under that name first appeared here (that I know about) yesterday. The first post was a big slam on the majority of the posters here. He posts nothing of substance, just comes in and critizes and then slams everyone as being intollerant. He's just your garden-variety troll trying to start arguments for the sake of arguing - nothing more.
See ya' later! Gotta' get dinner started.
time for me to do my evening chores.
"My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one."
— John 17:15
a good prayer for our children and grandchilden, who are gifts from God.
enjoy the evening, everyone.
I've posted this one before, but it's always a goodie.
For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
Hebrews 4:12
Evening all good Dems,
A lot of states only have one asshat republican senator. arizona appears to be home to the biggest assholes of all, mcloser and kile of shit.
How do people get this way? Is it the water or heat stroke?
Evening Essie,
How is the garage planning going? One of the properties on our vast subdivision of 72,000 acres is building a garage to live in while they build their house. It will probably come in handy for guests after the house is built.
kyl is a neotard asshole. He is even worse than mcprick. Screw them, give the money to California.
If we did give the money to other states, his constituents as stupid as they are would shit a brick. DO IT!!!!!!
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_KYL_STIMULUS?SITE=CASON&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Just passing by. The American League is already ahead. Oh, well. We're getting use to this baseball tradition.
Hi, marymac.
Thanks for your posts about the testimony today. I didn't have time to watch. It appears that Judge Sotomayer held her own against those old white segregationists. When are these dinosaurs going to realize that their time has come and gone?
The Judge has such a brilliant mind and is probably more qualified than anyone else currently on the bench. Yet the conservatives can't see past the color of her skin or their own fears that any woman might distinguish herself by standing toe-to-toe with Scalia intellectually.
And their fears are probably sound.
I suppose it would be too asking too much to see them spare in public from time-to-time while hearing a case? I can't wait to read her first written dissenting opinion.
The stupid bastard neotards have their heads up their collective asses. We won't have job recovery because all the corporations have sent their jobs overseas.
The stimulus bill should have had a mandatory "Buy American Clause".
I have seen a few new cars running around. Guess what, they were all foreign makes.
Lastly, we need to reinstate the Works Progress Administration and hire people directly to do public projects like President Roosevelt did in 1933. One big project could be our electric grid, building windmills and solarizing all public buildings including schools. President Obama had mentioned this early on but it was shot down by the asshole fascist pig republicans who have their heads up their collective asses.
President Obama needs to tell all republicans to bend over and f**k themselves.
We must bring our jobs home. I don't care if chinkland doesn't like it. They can go f**k themselves too.
Well then MelodicMetal... a warm welcome.....
After all these years you don't recognize the signature "concern" troll?
His cubicle is right down the hall from the other RNC summer interns. They never text you a message? It's a shame that you're the only troll on this blog who isn't paid to do whatever it is you guys fail to do so well.
It must be discouraging that your Ivy League education doesn't seem to mean much in this economy. Don't you hate that it's always who you know not what you can lift and post from Free Republic? But hang in there. The stimulus should be kicking in big time by fall.
And there could always be a job for you on the lovely and talented Sarah's senate primary campaign.
Sarah's staff. S
The neotards watered down the stimulus bill knowing full well that it would fail.
All neotards hate America and Americans. They pray nightly to their God, MONEY AND POWER.
Apparently the neotards follow the old adage. "It's not who you know, it's who you blow." This seems to be in full bloom with the republitard party.
I wonder how much toe tapping goes on in the senate restrooms and how many interns both male and female are exploited by the republitard senators and congresspersons.
Harpo_TheWatchman on July 14, 2009 at 09:33 PM
I really do think you and Sarah must be soulmates.
Can't understand a word.
That had to be the most convoluted definition of racism I've ever seen. Besides, you don't have to explain something to us that you exhibit on this blog regularly.
Your mere presence reinforces your idiotic argument.
The neotards watered down the stimulus bill knowing full well that it would fail.
Johne on July 14, 2009 at 09:41 PM
Hi, Johne.
Isn't that the truth. You would have thought Rahm would have learned from that mistake and insisted that Reid stand his ground. If Baucus can't toe the White House line, he needs to lose his chairmanship.
Damn. This is the most important piece of legislation of my generation and these ninnies are afraid of offending someone? Those who can't do their job out of "respect" for those cagey jackals across the aisle need to be thrown to their cubs for "blood sport".
Sarah used that term this week. Blood sport. I like it. None of her speeches make any sense at all, but she sure has an entertaining way of delivering them. Where does she come up with this stuff?
We? You have an imaginary friend?
Oh, yeah. Your alter egos come in whenever you need a climate change link posted to change the subject. Like when one of your predictions goes haywire or another conservative family values man goes dancing (or tap dancing) on the wild side.
Who do you think will be the next conservative icon to fall off the RNC pedestal?
And why is Steele still your chairman? Fire him. Give the job to Newt and be done with it. I thought even you would be fed up with that doorknob by now. The only hip hop we've seen from your party is the adultery coming from C Street.
MARYMAC,
You posted comment earlier on Republican Senator Grassley’s statements about Judge Sotomayor’s empathy during the Confirmation Hearing after President Obama said that her ability to have empathy is one reason why he nominated her for Supreme Court Justice?
I, for one, interpreted The President’s acknowledging her capabilities of bringing empathy to The Court as meaning empathetic to the working people and the ‘little people’ (if you will) instead of the corporate world and special interests that have dominated our Court system during the Bush Administration.
Quite honestly, I found Senator Grassley’s question to Judge Sotomayor asking why she once denied a person further Court hearings with the State regarding property rights as the Senator, himself, being empathetic to the property owner instead of corporate developers. So what would the Senator find wrong with Sonia Sotomayor being empathetic? (That may be a good example of how Republican’s divisive political decisions can ruin ‘both’ parties credible intentions by refusing to work bipartisan with us.)
You made a powerful post about how Senator Grassley did not spin these same concerns during the Confirmation Hearing of Judge Samuel Alito when he literally talked about using his experience with immigration to evaluate immigration cases. Well done, MARYMAC.
How can anyone expect much from Senator Grassley, who allowed his GOP/Campaign people to talk him into twittering statements that did not even make sense to anyone?
little lindsey tried to be so cute with judge sotomayor...in the bronx where she grew up his face would be used to scrap chewing gum off the sidewalk...and sessions is doing his best to make sure the deep south is the only region that ever votes for repelicans again...nice job boys keep it up!
Morning gregg,
Don't forget that asshole kyl.
If this guy and mcloser are typical of the people from arizona then they should be ashamed to call themselves Americans.
I would expect this from some neo-Nazis. And what's with the "minutemen". How dare these people call themselves Minutemen. They are a bunch of cowboy losers like bush and cheney. My fifth great grandfather was a Minuteman in Boston.
And how dare they call their bitch session a "tea party". One of my Irish ancestors in Boston was involved in the original Tea Party.
These people are anti-American and Anti-America.
t
We have the best REPUBLICAN senators and congressmen that money can buy. Just drop a cool million into their bank accounts and they will kiss your ass. They will do anything including sexual favors with men or women for votes.
Remember that old GI song from WWII.
"Screw them all, Screw them all, the long the short and the tall............"
I have lived here for nearly 62 years and can clearly state that the climate has not changed, it certainly hasn't gotten warmer. The last couple of years the winters have been much colder and this summer is the coolest I can recall. I have turned my AC on only twice.
NOW, NOW, STEVIE BOY, YOU FORGET THE NUMBER OF YEARS YOU LIVED IN CLEAR LAKE, FL !!! No wonder the temp seems cooler to your old bones, you came from FL, to the Anal Opening of the world and expect to feel warm??
PLUS, you ignore this information. If Minneapolis is experiencing Warming, then that extends to the entire state. Has nothing to do with the cement or whatever silliness you want to invent.
57% of Major U.S. Cities Are Seeing Warmer Winters
cities studied show increasing temperatures.
Increases are most prevalent in Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Arkansas and in the Midwest. Eight
Midwestern cities, including Minneapolis
1 Minneapolis/ St. Paul, Minnesota
Annual Trend Temperature: 0.2°F
Over 30 Years: 6.4°F
It’s not Minnesota summers that bring in the tourists. Winters are the bread-and-butter for the state.
Warmer winters are bad news for the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul. The cities host winter
tourists who flock to the state for winter recreation. Skiing, snowmobiling and ice fishing businesses face
revenue losses and cost increases when the mercury rises.
http://www.weatherbill.com/static/content/temperature_trends_summary_2007-09.pdf
Global frickin warmin ia flap doodle and total foolishness. Sounds like a 95 year old senile man bitching and moaning about flap doodle?? You should come into the 21st century with your English old fool!
Move back to Clear Lake if you don't like the weather there, and knock off your ignorant foolish dug up crapola about Global cooling. Aren't you gonna look so so stupid when Obama's climate change plans start making an effect on the planet and our country!
I am usually pretty darned good at spotting you asshats when you post under "fake-fake" names in a pathetic effort to make this blog appear as if it's a dynamic site with new members signing in all the time but this guy is a mystery.
bwhahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha..........gasp........
There has not been ONE single one of the DNC regular members, now nor ever, who use a different name for ANY reason on here!! You my paranoid little man, are full of Crap, as usual.
Now be a good little employee and go and get in your spot on the assembly line at TORO, ( or is this another day off when you have nothing, absolutely nothing, nor any money to do anything with???)
Gawd, you guys do not realize in your arrogance and smugness and false superiority how really really stupid you come across! If you did, there would be gun shots in MN today!
back after shower and breakfast, Dems........
Lordy, I need the laughs on here each morning, to get me going!!!!
Morning Pam,
"We used to say that the cold weather kept the riffraff out of our fine cities but since they have been issuing warm winter coats to arriving welfare refugees from Chicago, Gary Indiana, Detroit, Cleveland, Baltimore, etc the riffraff are staying."
That's a racist remark from the troll. What part of mississippi did the troll come from? He obviously hates people of color.
duhhhhhh, Thomass, see the link I provided to THAT report on MN! You see, we Dems, unlike you Reich wingers on here, show the source of our info! Any ass pulling is done by you !
Nice report in morning paper, that of the 100 top US places to live in, SIX of them are in CT ! Don't think there was one single on in MN! But then, it IS the anal opening of the world, so what can you expect !
Oh, and RJ has NEVER once posted under any other name. Your leader, Stevie boy, likes to show off to you other easily led little guys, and throws that out, but I know for a fact, RJ has never ever posted by any other name. And you can take THAT to the bank, you idiot!
Did you see, your leader , the MENSA braggard, had to have the dumbest one of you all, Dufus Dan tell him how to get back on the blog a month or so back? Now that cracked me up! Talk about coming in with different names----I could give you a list of all the names Stevie boy has used, starting with one Marge Hansen with a dead baby linked to his/her name ! Sick, man, Sick.
You never did answer me when I asked wherabouts YOUR Swastika tatoo was! Do you keep it hidden from your bosses at TORO? Do they know you are a skinhead, and white supremist?
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