Kicking Ass: The Democratic Party's Blog

Morning Open Thread

Posted by Jonah on November 3, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Good morning.



President Barack Obama at the conclusion of a briefing on Afghanistan and Pakistan in the Situation Room. Photo by Pete Souza.
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If you guys were not desperate, you would not be cyber stalking... PamB on October 31, 2009 at 03:57 PMYou two-faced bitch.

well, first of all, thomasss, WE are not desperate. WE WON, YOU LOST. What part of that did you miss?

Stevie made a choice 6 years ago. Keep coming in here, making a fool of himself, ASKING for revolation about his personal life, or slinking back into the night. He Chose to have himself exposed----after all, it was him who decided to share his information with a Democrat !


OH, and for clarity's sake, Stevie's itty bitty, 1280 sq foot rambler, with 2 bedrooms, is worth $90,300. The land cost more than the house !Told ya he is a compulsive liar !

Just thought you would like to know what the Nazi really owns, out there in the woods...........

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PamB on November 3, 2009 at 10:26 AM

ahahahaha, Thomasssss, your sense of humor is just SOOO not funny.


I told you before, I have my OWN money. George does not drink, and this is ALL public records. Every last bit of info posted about him, is wide open public records. he is unsophisticated enough, that he does not understand one can easily access anything about him they want to, without any paid investigations.
Why so indignant over postings about him? You recognize his mental instability too. You just like having a partner in crime and spreading of more hate ! You roll in it, like a pig in crapola. Speaking of that, how's the old Pig ranch, Dufus?

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PamB on November 3, 2009 at 10:45 AM


Pammy,

What the hell is wrong with you???


8CactusDanny on November 3, 2009 at 10:39 AM


You should reverse the question, and ask your-self that question, SOck Puppet.

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chassie321 on November 3, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Hi Chassie, heading out to vote.

Tuesdays are my Grandson babysitting day, so he is going with us. But the Repugs did not bother running anyone against my Democratic Mayor, who I helped run for office the last two times. She has done a lot of good for this town. Why waste the money.

bbl........

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PamB on November 3, 2009 at 10:57 AM

---"HAPPY ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY""PRESIDENT OBAMA---

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chassie321 on November 3, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Within the Republican Party it remains quite clear the strategy is to remain on the right,” said Julian Zelizer, a politics expert at Princeton University in New Jersey.

‘Don’t Move To The Center’

"The GOP sends a strong signal to other candidates ahead of 2010 with this: don't move to the center," Zelizer said.

At the same time, he said, “New Jersey and Virginia are like any off-year election; it’s very hard to see what the meaning is.”

Also in New York, Mayor Michael Bloomberg has a 12 percentage-point lead over the Democratic candidate, William C. Thompson Jr., according to a poll by Hamden, Connecticut-based Quinnipiac University released Nov. 2. The mayor is founder and majority owner of Bloomberg News parent Bloomberg LP.
(Heard on the news this morning--over the course of his Mayor job, Bloomberg has used millions and millions of his own money! Looks like buying another one. Like the Wrestling broad trying to buy Chris Dodd's Senate seat here in CT..

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PamB on November 3, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Good afternoon, DEMS!

I heard on the Ed Schultz Show a few minutes ago that Harry Reid shamed the Pugs into releasing their "super secret health care reform plan". He basically said "Quit talking about how you have a better plan and either put up or shut up". Well, he shamed them into producing something.

In a nut shell, it is the same old talking points they have been using forever, and only goes towards cost savings and totally ignores expanding coverage.

"Blah blah blah...cap medical malpractice at $250,000.00...blah, blah blah...encourage people to buy into a Medical Savings Plan run by private industry...blah blah blah...deregulate the insurance industry and allow them to operate across state borders at the lowest cost to them...blah blah blah..."

It says NOTHING about seniors, pre-existing conditions, recission, or claims adjustment panels. It has NO budget figures, it hasn't been scored by the CBO AND it lets them set their own rates without interference by the various State's Department of Insurance!

What a deal!

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 3, 2009 at 02:49 PM

Dufus and Stevieboy and Thomasss have been posting libelous attacks on my daughter for over a year-----yet Dufus is appalled I might actually post a picture of one of the troll's daughter? What part of payback is a bitch did you miss?

How about those kids of your's Dufus, who only seem to call when they need something. I wouldn't bring up kids if I were you.


You got something against Section 8 housing for the poor?
OF COURSE you do------you might have to pay for some disabled or elderly's house? But you just sit there with YOUR hand open to your

Free: Medicare Part A

$95 per month Part B

SS check

Veterans Benefits !


All of which I and the Liberals helped you get---and helped pay for.


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PamB on November 3, 2009 at 03:00 PM

Warren Buffett Tells CNBC Burlington Northern Buy Is 'Bet' On America


Well one thing is for sure, old Warren is betting on Obama. He is betting on America.


Old Warren said you lose again Trolls.

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chassie321 on November 3, 2009 at 03:05 PM

Just dropping by today.

House GOP pens 230-page health bill draft

Erica Werner, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON – After months spent criticizing Democrats' health overhaul plans, House Republicans have produced a draft proposal of their own. It's much shorter and focuses on bringing down costs rather than extending coverage to nearly all Americans.

A 230-page draft was obtained Tuesday by The Associated Press. A spokeswoman for Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, said changes were still being made before the bill would be finalized in time to offer as an alternative when Democrats begin floor debate on their bill, possibly at the end of this week.

The bill leaves out a number of the key features of the Democrats' 1,990-page legislation, such as new requirements for employers to insure their employees and for nearly all Americans to purchase insurance. It also doesn't block insurers from denying coverage to people with pre-existing health conditions, as Democrats would do.

Instead, the Republican plan increases incentives for people to use health savings accounts, caps non-economic jury awards in medical malpractice cases at $250,000, provides various incentives to states with the aim of driving down premium costs and allows health insurance to be sold across state lines...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091103/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_care_overhaul

So the Republicans premiered their Healthcare Reform Bill today. What took them so long? They didn't want voters to realize what they were going to try to palm off their same old failed policy?

So they tell us that they want to take the "burden" off employers and cut their costs while allowing insurance companies to make "even bigger profits" off struggling, underemployed workers. New policy?

Republicans are making it clear that they intend to continue walking over the sick and ailing bodies of those who have pre-existing conditions and tell them to get out of their way? Treating the poor like leapers has always been their policy. Still is.

Let us never again let these people imply that they are Christian or compassionate. Their actions speak louder than their very public (and insincere) praises to God.

Their god is greed...across state lines.

bbl.

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SandyH on November 3, 2009 at 03:12 PM

gee, if I remember correctly, it was Stevieboy who started posting my address and information the other night!!!! Fair's Fair.
Now he is ticked off----that I showed what a liar he is with the info on his house from the Pine County site ! You see what a liar you hang around with Dufus? But then, that never stopped you before.


btw, RedState blog has a total of 10 comments if you count all the threads, and many are the same guy. Now whose doing the lying?


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PamB on November 3, 2009 at 03:14 PM


" old Warren " has been losing money for the last year there, MethMan.


14CactusDanny on November 3, 2009 at 03:11 PM

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Your so full of Manure, it ain't even funny.

He'll win like he always does Sock Puppet, and you will lose as always, LOOSER.

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chassie321 on November 3, 2009 at 03:17 PM

Yeah that was a impressive move on Gold today I got to admit, thanks to India buying 200 metric ton's, and China is expected to do the same.

And you had no idea this was going to happen anymore then King Kong. Even the best of the best of the gold traders had no idea, and you sure didn't. You got lucky, now sit on it and lose your shirt.

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chassie321 on November 3, 2009 at 03:20 PM

Even my Iraqi Dinars have gone up 20 cents.

19Cleveland on November 3, 2009 at 03:19 PM


Its about time, i bought 5 million Iraqi Dinars, over 6 years ago, that have went no where. I think i payed about 4,200 for them I knew when i bought them they would never be worth nothing in my life time. I just bought them, for the Grandkids. But i will have to admit, they are sure Pretty.

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chassie321 on November 3, 2009 at 03:27 PM

Of Course I knew it was gonna happen - just not this soon. Countries, predictably, are moving away from the increasingly worthless dollar resulting in increased scarcity of gold. Duh, any moron should have seen that coming.

23Cleveland on November 3, 2009 at 03:26 PM


And your a damn liar, just like you lie about everything else. You just wait and see what happens to that Gold when the Fed starts raising interest rates, next year.

And you think your smarter then the whole world. Here is the reason you got Lucky.


RBI buys half of IMF's gold for sale; who's next?
Tue Nov 3, 2009 5:49pm

MUMBAI/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The International Monetary Fund has sold 200 tonnes of gold to the Reserve Bank of India for $6.7 billion, quietly executing half of a long-planned bullion sale that has threatened to slow gold's ascent.

The deal, which surprised traders who expected China to be the most likely buyer, will relieve the gold market of some uncertainty over how and when the IMF would sell 403.3 tonnes of gold, about one-eighth of its total stock. The deal will increase India's gold holdings to the tenth largest among central banks.

It also fuelled speculation that other governments -- including Beijing -- may be ready to diversify their reserves even at near-record gold prices, helping soak up IMF supply that the fund may otherwise be forced to sell on the open market.

"Central banks in India and China will be happy to accumulate gold at these levels. I will not be surprised to see even some Southeast Asian banks buying gold," Aaron Smith, Asia head of the $1.65 billion technical trading fund Superfund, told Reuters.

For graphics on the world's top gold reserve holders click here

Spot gold prices earlier rose by nearly one percent, but later reversed those gains to trade little changed at around $1,058 an ounce on Tuesday, within striking distance of last month's $1,070.40 record despite a rallying dollar. Traders said the IMF news could add to the market's upward momentum.

"Its potentially bullish from several points of view," said Commerzbank analyst Eugen Weinberg. "Gold was kept off the market and sold directly to cental banks so potential sales on market are limited by this."

"Secondly, it showed large buyers are ready to accept the current price levels. Thirdly, the central banks are increasing their gold reserves. Last but not least the central bank gold agreement sales of 400 tonnes ... is half empty already."

The Reserve Bank of India said the purchase was an official sector off-market transaction and was executed during Oct. 19-30 at market-based prices.

An IMF official said the sale was concluded at an average price of about $1,045 an ounce and that the transaction would be paid in hard currency and not in IMF Special Drawing Rights.


SURPRISE BUYER

Although the IMF's plan to sell a share of its gold holdings in order to increase low-cost lending to poor countries had been flagged for a year before it was formally approved in September, the speed, scale and identity of the buyer were a surprise.

"It was always thought that some of it would be sold off market but it was a bit of a surprise that as much as 200 tonnes had been sold off market," said Simon Weeks, director of precious metal sales at Bank of Nova Scotia.

Although India is the world's biggest consumer of gold, primarily in the form of jewellery and investment among its billion-plus people, its central bank had given few signs of seeking to diversify its reserves pool into bullion.

The proportion of gold as part of its total foreign reserves has fallen from over 20 percent in 1994 to just under 4 percent.

India's foreign exchange reserves held at the central bank totalled $285.5 billion on Oct. 23, of which gold comprised just over $10 billion. The latest purchase will lift its share of gold holdings from near 4 percent to about 6 percent, much less than most of the developed world but four times China's share.

The RBI does not officially talk about its diversification strategy. On Tuesday, the RBI said the purchase of IMF's gold was done as part of its foreign exchange reserve management.

For a graphic on the share of gold in central bank reserves click here

But there may also be a geopolitical motive behind the deal: India, like China, is also seeking closer ties with the IMF to assert its authority on the global economic stage.

"This transaction is an important step toward achieving the objectives of the IMF's limited gold sales program, which are to help put the fund's finances on a sound long-term footing and enable us to step up much-needed concessional lending to the poorest countries," the IMF's managing director, Dominique Strauss-Kahn, said in a statement on Monday.


NO MARKET DISRUPTION

A senior IMF official, speaking on condition of anonymity, declined to say whether other central banks have expressed interest in buying the remaining gold for sale.

He said if no other central banks came forward, the IMF would proceed as planned to sell the gold in the market, but reiterated that the fund would publicize its intentions before doing so to avoid disrupting the market.

Still, the threat of further open-market sales remains a source of concern for gold traders, mindful of the five-year pact among European central banks to sell down a maximum 400 tonnes a year of their holdings, an agreement that was renewed in August and includes the IMF volume.

The market's focus has now shifted to China, which has reportedly been in talks with the IMF about buying some of the fund's bullion as Beijing seeks to shift some of its more than $2 trillion in foreign exchange reserves away from the U.S. dollar.

"Now people may think China will buy the other half," said Ronald Leung, director of Lee Cheong Gold Dealers in Hong Kong.

Already the world's top producer of gold and rivalling India as a consumer, China revealed this year that it had quietly lifted its own government holdings of gold stocks to 1,054 tonnes from 600 tonnes when it last reported its holdings in 2003.

It is the first time since 2000 that the IMF has sold gold to a central bank. Between December 1999 and April 2000 in separate transactions, the IMF sold a total of 12.9 million ounces of gold to member countries Brazil and Mexico.

(Additional reporting by Lewa Pardomuan and Sambit Mohanty in SINGAPORE and Jan Harvey in EDINBURGH; Editing by Jonathan Leff)


© Thomson Reuters 2009 All rights reserved

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chassie321 on November 3, 2009 at 03:34 PM

So bobby,

Have you got 10 billion to lose, follow Buffet.

26CactusDanny on November 3, 2009 at 03:37 PM

So do you think that he owns everone of those shares in that fund, Danny Boy? Of course he don't.

And even if he did lose 10 billion in that fund, so what. He hasn't sold it yet, you don't lose until you sell. Plus he has made billions, in other investments. Such as Goldman Sac's. And many others.

He's made every dime he's got in the stock market, and you want people to belief he don't know what he is doing. And his concept is really simple he invests in America.

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chassie321 on November 3, 2009 at 03:55 PM

Harpo_TheWatchman on November 3, 2009 at 03:47 PM

Just shut up Harpie, your not even sensible enough to to carry on a honest debate. I've told you before and i'll tell you again, your nothing but a Punk.

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chassie321 on November 3, 2009 at 03:59 PM

Like you said Pam, Danny iq is around 60 He thinks that to follow Buffet, you have to invest the same amt. of money that Buffet does. WHAT A FRIGGIN STUPID IDIOT>

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chassie321 on November 3, 2009 at 04:02 PM

Heirloom pots and pans from my Mother?????Not hardly. She used them for decoration in her kitchen. And they are pure copper, and I nor anyone else wants them-----so now is the time to get rid of them when the price is high.

THAT is what is known as smart investing and selling. But of course, your jealousy that all you have is crap you pick up at yard sales, and have nothing of any value, is so obvious with your taunting of chassie, who has 10 times the smarts you do! Same with Dufus and Thomassss. Don't have a thing they could sell off now that the prices are high, so make fun of those that do! Course if you go over to RedState and mention selling gold, silver, copper, any metals right now, they will tell you how smart you are ! they don't know you are lying.

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PamB on November 3, 2009 at 04:17 PM

36Harpo_TheWatchman on November 3, 2009 at 04:08 PM

You shouldn't worry about other people, when your living out of the back seat, of your clunker.

You better hurry and find a job, it sure is going to get cold there, in Mn. living out of that car.

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chassie321 on November 3, 2009 at 04:19 PM


he lost 13 billion in his Fund last year, no word so far this year.

40CactusDanny on November 3, 2009 at 04:22 PM


I done told you once, he didn't lose crap, he has not sold it. You only lose win you sell into a vortex, in other words for your little bity brain, when the market, sold off for Armageddon like it did last year. THAT YOU DAMN REPUBLICIANS CAUSED.

Now we got adults back in charge of the economy the market is up around 55 percent from its lows in March. So old Warren is having quite a good year, IDIOT.

I mean hell Danny there is only 4 major Railroads, in these United States, and he bought one today lock stock and barrel.

OLD Warren is betting on OBAMA, and AMERICA. He's probably got inside info from OBAMA. If i was you i would bet with him. HA HA HA HA

All your Jackass Mentors, are hoping for failure., of America.

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chassie321 on November 3, 2009 at 04:34 PM

heehee, Chassie------ old Dufus votes against himself time after time. Now he is dissing Buffett! BUFFET IS THE ONE WHO IS SAYING THE TAX RATES ARE UNFAIR TO THE LOW AND MIDDLE CLASS, AND HE, BUFFET IS WILLING TO PAY MORE ! What part of that does not translate to Dufus----Warren Buffet is on his side???

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PamB on November 3, 2009 at 04:39 PM

trooly Tuesday? good golly, you slackers should find some work to do!
Hey! I found this one for Dan (who is really harponeverything and sometimes, our very own S*)

Romans 13:1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.

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Esmeralda on November 3, 2009 at 04:40 PM

oh boy! I'm on a roll!!!

Proverbs 31:16 A good woman knows how to buy land and how to plant a vineyard,

Proverbs 10:4 Laziness leads to poverty; hard work makes you rich.

Proverbs 13:4 No matter how much you want, laziness won't help a bit, but hard work will reward you with more than enough.

Proverbs 22:29 If you do your job well, you will work for a ruler and never be a slave.

Proverbs 27:23 You should take good care of your sheep and goats.

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Esmeralda on November 3, 2009 at 04:42 PM

Proverbs 18:9 Being lazy is no different from being a troublemaker.

Ecclesiastes 10:18 Some people are too lazy to fix a leaky roof-- then the house falls in.

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Esmeralda on November 3, 2009 at 04:44 PM

Luke 12:15-21 Then he said to them, "Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; a man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions." And he told them this parable: "The ground of a certain rich man produced a good crop.
He thought to himself, 'What shall I do? I have no place to store my crops.'
"Then he said, 'This is what I'll do. I will tear down my barns and build bigger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods. 19And I'll say to myself, "You have plenty of good things laid up for many years. Take life easy; eat, drink and be merry."
"But God said to him, 'You fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you. Then who will get what you have prepared for yourself?'
"This is how it will be with anyone who stores up things for himself but is not rich toward God."

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Esmeralda on November 3, 2009 at 04:46 PM

ok you trools! did any of you limp noodles go vote?

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Esmeralda on November 3, 2009 at 04:50 PM

HE LOST 10 BILLION OF HIS OWN MONEY SO FAR THIS YEAR, moron.

What can't you read, little bobby?


24CactusDanny on November 3, 2009 at 04:41 PM


For the third time, he hasn't lost nothing he hasn't SOLD. IS THAT A HARD CONCEPT FOR YOU TO GRASP? He's a long term investor. He's not a day trader.

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chassie321 on November 3, 2009 at 04:50 PM

Sorry Failin's Nazi are causing so much trouble and voter intimidation in NY23 that the police have been called out to at least 2 different polling places.

Hey minions are covering themselves with Adolph Hoptfmann stickers and yelling anti-abortion slurs at people as they try to get into the voting places.

Police Called To NY-23 Polling Sites (Updated) »

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2009/11/police-called-to-ny-23-polling.html#ixzz0VptF7W5n

"We've gotten reports that people are standing there, covered with Hoffman stickers and yelling anti-choice stuff at voters," said O'Neill, a St. Lawrence native who has been running the party's GOTV effort for Bill Owens in NY-23.


"Apparently, there's some woman claiming to be a commissioner," O'Neill continued. "Commissioner of what, I don't know. She's from Texas, I think, and she won't leave."

"This is not the way we roll in the North Country."


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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 3, 2009 at 04:56 PM

32Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 3, 2009 at 04:56 PM

it's that a shame! just wait until next years election. those idiots will end up killing someone.

hate filled pricks!

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Esmeralda on November 3, 2009 at 05:02 PM

What the fuck are you addressing me for, Sockpuppet? Your beef is with someone else, asshole.

BTW, what is the fraction of his total net worth as opposed to a temporary decrease in its 2008 value? When it goes back up are you going to assume he "made" that much?

He didn't "lose" a damn thing, just some of the inflated value ("Market cost") of a portion of some of his portfolio.

When he jumps out of a window it's time to worry, moron.

You are the same idiot who claimed Flush was making $40 Million a year, until I had to explain the concept of "contract 'value'" to you because your tiny conical cement filled noggin couldn't grasp the concept, douchebag.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 3, 2009 at 05:04 PM

Thanks, KA guys and gals.

The trolls are getting goofier by the day, and pretty soon they will start getting violent.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 3, 2009 at 05:12 PM

31Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 3, 2009 at 05:04 PM

visions of trools scurrying on the google machine dance through my head! they can NEVER one-up on you!

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Esmeralda on November 3, 2009 at 05:12 PM

27Esmeralda on November 3, 2009 at 04:50 PM

I'm waiting! inquiring minds DEMAND to know!

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Esmeralda on November 3, 2009 at 05:16 PM

Hey, dere, {{Esme}} It was to be expected with the low IQ following of all those Sorry Failin fans. All they know is violence and intimidation, just like the trolls here.

The hilarious part of that NY23 race is that for the first time since it was originally drawn up 140 years ago, a Pug won't be the Representative!

The loonies drove the Pug off the reservation.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 3, 2009 at 05:17 PM

Good evening fellow Americans. Just a quickie to let y'all know the polls will be closing in VA at 1900EST. I'm on a quick break but its back to work for me until the polls close. I'll be at the Deeds campaign HQ afterwards drinking all the free liquor I can get my hands on as the results come in.

Good night fellow Americans. Keep the Faith and keep the faith. Yes we can, yes we will, and yes we did!

...The torch [was] passed again to a new generation of Americans. So with Barack Obama and for you and for me, our country will be committed to his cause. The work begins anew. The hope rises again. And the dream lives on.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 3, 2009 at 05:47 PM

Wait a minute, I just thought of something (and unlike Dufus Danny, it happens all the time so there is no need to notify the media).

That Dem GOTV Chairwoman said ""Apparently, there's some woman claiming to be a commissioner," O'Neill continued. "Commissioner of what, I don't know. She's from Texas, I think, and she won't leave."".

Does anyone know where Connie is today? PUma Power! Rawwwwr!

;)

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 3, 2009 at 05:48 PM

Hi everyone - Just a quick post and run. I found this over on Matt Taibbi's blog at True Slant. It's long but very worth the read! He wrote it after Palin's resignation:

If you didn’t know any better, if you didn’t know what that you were watching wasn’t an overdose of strong uppers but simple garden-variety stupidity mixed with severe stress, you’d have thought Sarah Palin’s breathless, rambling resignation speech a few weeks back was one the great public performances in the history of recreational narcotics – a masterpiece on par with Dock Ellis’s 1976 LSD-aided no-hitter and Britney’s seminal 2007 MTV Awards “comeback” performance.

The speech was a tour de force of Palinism, a dozen-plus feverish minutes of strident paranoia and passionate incoherence that in the end only just barely managed to achieve their ostensible rhetorical purpose – an announcement that John McCain’s erstwhile train-wreck running mate was stepping down as governor of Alaska in order to set the bloodthirsty tabloids working on the most intriguing political mystery story in years.

Why did Sarah quit? This is the question that the national political press will surely spend a good part of the next two years debating, until Palin inevitably resurfaces in February of 2011 buoyed by her inevitable hot bestseller (I, Sarah Palin, Goes Washington), by the inevitable rave reviews at whatever no-show, dingbat job she ends up taking (Liberty University Athletic Director? American Idol judge?), and by the fifty or sixty million in quietly-collected search committee money we all know is already being arranged.

Until that time comes, we’ll all be left to wonder just why exactly Sarah Palin quit her day job when the playbook seemed so obviously to call for eighteen more months of gubernatorial pseudo-rectitude in preparation for the presumed 2012 assault on Mount Obama; whether it really was just a case of premature media burnout, as she seemed to imply, or whether some darker reason forced her hand.

Clues were scarce at first. In the initial surprise announcement, made against a backdrop of swarming bugs and paddling lake fowl outside her Wasilla, Alaska home on July 3, Palin seemed almost monomaniacally focused on the tabloid circus that had become her daily existence, mentioning hostile press coverage over a dozen times. In the most weirdly tasteless and uncomfortable part of her speech, she even contrasted the Iraq war veterans she’d recently visited overseas to her media antagonists, implying that these patriotic soldiers were too busy getting shot for the good of the flag to “waste time” crucifying a hardworking Republican governor. “We can all learn from our selfless troops,” she said. “They’re bold, they don’t give up, they take a stand and know that life is short so they choose to not waste time” on “superficial wasteful political bloodsport.”

The governor, without a doubt, was by the end getting it in every orifice from a variety of highly creative antagonists never dreamed of before August 29, 2008 (the Anno Domini in the Palinoid calendar, marking the date she was named to the presidential ticket by the ever-regretful John McCain), including a bevy of emboldened in-state enemies who had slapped her with no fewer than 18 ethics complaints since last year. “Some say things changed for me on August 29,” she said. “I say others changed.”

In fact things have been tough all around since we last saw Palin on the big stage last fall, playing the role of the overmatched anchor round the neck of the probably doomed-already McCain candidacy. After the November catastrophe she and her family became a favored paparazzi target, especially after daughter Bristol squeezed out her apparently unwanted love child and promptly became a creepily outspoken advocate for abstinence (the world anxiously awaits baby Tripp’s unavoidable teenage breakdown upon reading, in the People magazine archives, Bristol’s disturbing tirade against the drag of motherhood).

Palin also engaged in an uncomfortably heated spat with David Letterman that managed somehow to make both sides look bad, while so severely mismanaging her relatively modest responsibilities as an off-year presidential hopeful (missing a series of promised engagements) that the national Republican party had to send officials to Alaska for a sort of intervention, to straighten out her calendar and prevail upon her to answer her telephone.

While a lot of this stuff was undoubtedly annoying and some of the ethics complaints in particular were absurd (in one of the 18 cases she was criticized for wearing a jacket with the logo of her husband’s snowmobile race sponsor), Palin’s reaction to all of it, particularly the media criticism, was way out of proportion to reality, far beyond the usual “the liberal press is out to get us” bullshit that more psychologically healthy conservative politicians will sling in public either out of calculation, or just for the fun of it.

In fact, Palin’s obsession with her critics appears really to have advanced beyond even Nixonian levels – culminating in an extraordinary letter written by her attorney Thomas Van Flein to various news organizations the day after her resignation that seemed to be evidence of a major paranoid episode.

The rambling four-page letter amazingly threatened legal action against any reporter who implied that Palin was facing a federal investigation into whether or not she embezzled funds from a sports complex construction project in her hometown of Wasilla. Palin’s intent was to head off speculation that she had resigned in advance of a pending investigation – a story that to date had mostly been pushed by a little-known blogger in Alaska – but the letter instead only heightened interest in the obscure story and guaranteed that it became a major national headline.

Moreover Van Flein’s letter, which was directed at Palin-unfriendly news organizations like the Washington Post, MSNBC, and the New York Times, read like a late-stage Lenny Bruce rant, full of arcane details humorlessly offered in Palin’s defense and lots of hideously leaden sarcasm directed at her enemies. The letter’s sneering footnote broadside at Village Voice investigative ace Wayne Barrett, who had written about the Wasilla story, sums up the Palin frame of mind in the last days of her governorship:

“[Barrett’s story is] written in the style of one pretending to be amazed that so many people in a small town like Wasilla appear to know one another, support one another, and take on big projects together. Apparently that is uncommon in New York…”

What was remarkable about the Van Flein letter wasn’t so much that Palin seemed really to believe she could head off bad press by blanket-threatening the entire national political media with a lawsuit, but that she took this extraordinary step just weeks after another similarly damaging story had broken that should have woken her up to the p.r. dangers of such nutty-ass paranoid behavior.

Just a few weeks before, CBS News had published a series of emails written last year between Palin and McCain chief campaign strategist Steve Schmidt, in which Palin tried to order Schmidt to proactively issue a false press release about her husband Todd’s membership in a secessionist political party.

Apparently Palin during the campaign last year heard someone shout at her in a ropeline about Todd Palin’s membership in the Alaska Independence Party (AIP); she immediately blew this up in her mind to a major threat and directed Schmidt to issue a press release saying that his seven-year membership in the party was an “error,” the result of checking a box on a ballot by mistake, a clearly absurd if not actually insane excuse. As the lone grownup in the equation Schmidt unhesitatingly pulled rank and told her to shut the fuck up, noting that Todd had been in a secessionist party and it was useless to deny that fact, sensibly advising her to just smile and say “Todd loves America” if it ever came up again.

But Palin didn’t let it go, and sent a letter back to Schmidt continuing to deny the obvious facts about Todd’s membership and demanding that Schmidt relent (“I still want it fixed”), making the curious decision to CC the letter to five completely extraneous campaign workers, including a junior staffer from Palin’s own office in Alaska who had absolutely no input on campaign decisions. This was like a campaign trail version of Mommie Dearest, with poor Schmidt playing the role of the director hauled into the diva’s trailer to get reamed for showing too many of her wrinkles onscreen.

Viewed alongside some of the other Palin scandals – the alleged intervention to attempt to get a former brother in-law fired from the State Police, the apparent firing of the Wasilla librarian after she refused to consider censoring books – all of this points to a serious gash in the Palin psyche, one that overreacts to imagined enemies and is willing to go to wildly irrational lengths to head off even the mildest threats. Taken as part of this larger pattern, Palin’s surprise resignation almost seems like a kind of self-flagellating strike against her critics, as if she is trying to punish the world for targeting her by depriving us of the one valuable thing she thinks she has to offer us – her career.

And here’s the really scary part: it worked. Palin’s paranoid ramblings and self-pitying tantrums on the way out of office not only didn’t injure her chances for national office, they actually appeared to help, as polls taken in the week after her resignation showed that 71% of Republicans were now prepared to vote for her for president in 2012. Just as she had during the campaign last fall, Palin defied rational analysis by making a primal connection with the subterranean resentments of white middle America, which is apparently so pissed off now at the rest of the planet for not coddling its hurt feelings in the multicultural age that it is willing to embrace any politician who validates its insane sense of fucked-overness.

Nobody understands this political reality quite like Palin, even if she doesn’t actually understand it in the sense of someone who thinks her way to a conclusion, but merely lives it, unconsciously, with the unerring instinct of a herd animal. Palin’s supporters don’t judge her according to her almost completely nonexistent qualifications for serious office, they perceive her as they would a character in a Biblical narrative, a Job in heels with cross-eyes and a mashed-potato-brained husband who happens to spend a lot of time getting shat upon by Letterman and Maureen Dowd and the other modern-day Enemies of Christ.

On some level Palin understands better than any of us that what’s important to her base isn’t how well she does her job or even what she does with her time before 2012, but who her enemies are and how loudly she beats the drum against them – and when the news comes out that these foes have recently driven her to such distraction that she even started losing her hair (reportedly necessitating a recent emergency trip to personal hairdresser Jessica Steele), it elevates her conservative martyr credentials to previously unimagined levels.

As a national candidate she seems to us normal/rational observers mortally wounded, but as a conduit for middle American resentment she may actually have gained in stature, and don’t be at all surprised if she doesn’t emerge with the status of something like a religious figure when they roll the rock back for her inevitable candidacy three years from now.

Of course there’s another way of looking at this too, especially in light of exiled Bristol Palin cheerful-lunkhead baby-daddy Levi Johnston’s recent revelations that, while living with the Palin family over the winter, he had heard Sarah Palin talk about cashing in on her fame via million-dollar book deals and other opportunities. “She had talked about how nice it would be to take some of this money people had been offering us and you know just run with it, say ‘forget everything else,’” Levi said.

It may be that the notoriously work-averse Palin (whose gubernatorial office hours grew steadily shorter as this year went on, according to reports) realized that in the current cultural climate, she could have it all without having to bother with the actual work of politics. She could turn her resignation into the supreme expression of conservative principle, seeming to show such high distaste for government that she can quit an executive job in a nervous panic and still get high marks from her base for ideological leadership – a hilariously contradictory and idiotic situation only possible in a country willing to go past a certain intellectual point of no return.

THE MOST DELICIOUS moment in the recent Palin brouhaha, after all, was her classic fuckup in the days after her resignation, when she slipped up while arguing that as president she wouldn’t have to deal with the persecution she faced as Alaska governor. “I think on a national level your department of law there in the White House would look at some of the things that we’ve been charged with and automatically throw them out,” she said, apparently unaware that there is no federal “Department of Law.”

This amazing gaffe reminded everyone of what we might have to look forward to in 2012, when the Republican Party may well nominate a woman who would lose at Trivial Pursuit to a Chilean sea bass, who makes George W. Bush look like Sir Isaac Newton. What’s incredible about Palin isn’t that she has a few gaps in her knowledge base, but that she doesn’t know anything about anything at all; she moreover doesn’t seem to feel the need to make sure one idea follows the next when she talks, instead just blurting out random unconnected bits and pieces of deep-seated resentment and persecution complex. Even ideological consistency is an alien concept to her (she wears her religious fundamentalism on her sleeve, but lets her unmarried daughter shack up with a human hard-on in the next room over) and she appears to resent the notion that it shouldn’t be.

All of which makes Sarah Palin the perfect leader for the inevitable pushback against the Obama era, when America in a vague and superficial sort of way decided to celebrate the values of culture, tolerance and knowledge. The other America doesn’t read and doesn’t remember anything it didn’t learn in the last five minutes; it’s angry and unhappy but doesn’t want to think about why, and knows only that it wants someone to pay the price for what it feels.

These people don’t want a president who reads Urdu poetry, they want a president who thinks Urdu is a Swedish dog food and doesn’t care if you know it. Just like them, Sarah Palin is now an unemployed loser who lost her job and her status thanks to forces beyond her comprehension and thinks she knows exactly whom to blame – laugh at her now if you like, but see if her humiliating exit doesn’t turn out to be the hole card that wins her the Republican nomination.

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marymac_memphis on November 3, 2009 at 05:48 PM

Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 3, 2009 at 05:12 PM

No, they won't Doo-Bee. They just hide behind their keyboards and vent their frustrations here. They know full well that if they said out loud half of what they post here they would need dental work afterwards.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 3, 2009 at 05:49 PM

I'm totally agree with A.R.Shams (of Pakistan's ) comments on Web site of BBC.COM (Have A Say)against a news "What will be the next in Afghanistan" i.e. herewith, as : "The best president of Afghanistan would be the one who can restore peace and harmony in the country, otherwise, no use of election or re-election in the country that causes unrest and loss of national economy and energy worthlessly".

But, how is it possible? How to control Extremists, Terrorists and underground-Activists as well ? obviously, Group of 8 Developing countries of OIC & Regional players can play a positive role, only.

Let United State & Allies must have to Support behind the curtain with all Social,Political, Technical & financial, Peace & Development resources. But, I do not hesitate to repeat: "Afghanistan is a regional Problem now, so the 'Regiona-Players' have to bother for".

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TahirZaheer on November 3, 2009 at 06:07 PM

Well Bob, actually I do say out loud what I post here. I am by no mean afraid of speaking my mind on the issues of the day and if some liberal asshat takes offense to what I say then that's to fuq'ing bad for him.


Which explains why you are out by the mailbox every week, looking for your unemployment check!

Maybe if you find a sucker to hire you again, next time you will keep that very large racist, homophobic, Hate filled Nazi mouth shut!

Toro must still be smiling they were able to get rid of you! Arrogant, smug, Pompous,loud mouthed, and so very very wrong!

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PamB on November 3, 2009 at 06:44 PM

Well Bob, actually I do say out loud what I post here. I am by no mean afraid of speaking my mind on the issues of the day and if some liberal asshat takes offense to what I say then that's to fuq'ing bad for him.


Which explains why you are out by the mailbox every week, looking for your unemployment check!

Maybe if you find a sucker to hire you again, next time you will keep that very large racist, homophobic, Hate filled Nazi mouth shut!

Toro must still be smiling they were able to get rid of you! Arrogant, smug, Pompous,loud mouthed, and so very very wrong!

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PamB on November 3, 2009 at 06:54 PM

you should really be more sensitive with remarks about weight, Thomasssss. You know Dufus is not nicknamed Boss Hog for nothing!

BTW, my mayor, whom I worked on her campaign the last 2 elections, did not even have anyone running against her this time. She has done such a great job! People love her !

It must suck to be such an extreme fringe right wing hater like you, and have to live in a Blue State !

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PamB on November 3, 2009 at 06:58 PM


Now Thomassss, not even the trolls laughed at your sick attempt at humor this morning---because it was clear I was talking about Stevieboy, and all the public info on him!!!!!!


On the wrong track and damned proud of it.

Let's settle this once and for all, thomasssss.


Go find a Bible, bring it back here, and put your hand on it. Type the following:

I promise on my Mother's soul, may she rot in hell if I am lying, that I was never Michelle Law, and I never worked for TORO !


Then maybe I might believe you.

run along---get the Bible. I DARE YOU!

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PamB on November 3, 2009 at 07:09 PM

Did you hear this story about Palin????


Seems the egotistical bimbo, when told she could NOT give a speech after McCain's concession one, said she wanted to go back out on stage for pictures with her family! Can you believe it, when your OWN campaign aides have to turn out the lights on you, to get you to shut the hell up?


In "Sarah From Alaska," two campaign reporters share the behind-the-scenes story of Sarah Palin's rise to national stardom and surprising resignation.

On the "Early Show" on CBS, authors Scott Conroy and Shushannah Walshe said Tuesday there was a "remarkable internal war" at the end of the campaign between Palin and McCain's teams when the VP candidate was told she could not deliver a concession speech. "Governor Palin tried to create some confusion" so that she would be able to speak, but she ultimately failed. "It really turned into an all-out civil war," Walshe said. On election night, Palin went back out onstage to take pictures with her family and McCain's staff was so terrified that she would give a speech after all that they turned out the lights on her.

According to a copy of the book obtained by Huffington Post, when senior McCain aide Carla Eudy heard the news, she immediately called campaign manager Steve Schmidt, who barked, "Take the set down. Unplug it."

The McCain staff didn't believe Palin's claim that she just wanted to take pictures with her family on stage - to one aide, it sounded like a "dubious cover story."

When she found out what was happening, an incensed Carla Eudy called [Palin advisor Jason] Recher to express her displeasure. "You never had control of her," she said, according to Recher. "Get control of her! Get her ass off stage!"

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/03/sarah-from-alaska-book-mc_n_343660.html

Power hungry, money grubbing bitch!!!

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PamB on November 3, 2009 at 07:17 PM

Now just in case Hoffman wins in NY, I don't want Stevieboy crowing that somehow it was due to Palin!

Palin Actually Not That Popular In NY-23
Sarah Palin may have managed to drastically alter the course of upstate New York's special congressional election with a comment on her Facebook page. But despite catapulting the Conservative Party's Doug Hoffman to a likely victory in Tuesday's election, the former Alaska Governor is, herself, relatively unpopular in the state's 23rd district.

According to Public Policy Polling, 44 percent of voters in NY-23 said they had a negative view of the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee. That's one percentage point higher than those who viewed her favorably. Isolating just Republicans in the district, the numbers are better, but not overwhelmingly so. Fifty-three percent of Republican voters said they had a positive view of Palin while 32 percent said their view was negative.

More important, however, is what these numbers portend for future elections. NY-23 is a decidedly Republican district, with the GOP enjoying a 14-percentage point advantage in voter ID, according to Public Policy Polling. That Palin is just breaking even in one of the "reddest" areas of the northeast shows the current limitations of her political reach.

As PPP concludes: "She could overcome those kinds of numbers in a contest to get the Republican nomination but they certainly wouldn't be good enough in a general election. The North Country should be friendly ground for her and if she can't make it there it's hard to see how she can make it anywhere."


Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/03/palin-actually-not-that-p_n_344241.html

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PamB on November 3, 2009 at 07:21 PM

Well, Thomass is having a hard time finding that Bible,(because we KNOW he would never renege on a bet), and ole Dufus is out feeding his hogs on that fantasy 'ranch' of his. Stevieboy dumpster diving for cans to redeem so he can pay his next tax due on his lovely 1250 sq foot rambler.

I will take a break and come back in to check results with you Dems in a while ! and of course, to see Thomasss' pledge with hand on Bible!

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PamB on November 3, 2009 at 07:36 PM

did the limp noodles vote today?

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Esmeralda on November 3, 2009 at 08:22 PM

37CactusDanny on November 3, 2009 at 05:35 PM

beep, beep, zip, bang!

the carpenter loves a good woman who can be raunchy.

so, tell me, limpy, did you vote today?

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Esmeralda on November 3, 2009 at 08:31 PM

never mind. your sock puppet isn't as fun the real stupid dan.

so, did you vote, limpy?

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Esmeralda on November 3, 2009 at 08:53 PM

limp noodle trools don't even know it's general election day!

http://enr.sos.state.tx.us/enr/

http://enr.sos.state.tx.us/enr/

well, looky there! the simple gal from a tiny hamlet knows how to use the google machine!

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Esmeralda on November 3, 2009 at 09:06 PM
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Esmeralda on November 3, 2009 at 09:07 PM

wood is good. something you wouldn't know a thing about, harponeverything. hahaha

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Esmeralda on November 3, 2009 at 09:10 PM

it's so easy to get you trools all fired up. too bad you're all limpos.
hahahaha

gotta go spend time with my loving carpenter! love that wood!

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Esmeralda on November 3, 2009 at 09:19 PM

I hope that in 2010 and 2012 when elections "really mean something" that educated baby boomers who would like to retire but can't (because they have no affordable health care options) will make their voices heard again and we change this country towards a more positive future. It amazes me constantly how PUG lies, misinformation, fear mongering and conspiracy theories can still turn the middle class against itself.


Good night Dems.... have fun gloating to yourselves Trolls.

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chassie321 on November 3, 2009 at 09:39 PM

METAL FUTURES

GOLD 1081.9 -3.00 -0.28%
SILVER 1717.0 -1.00 -0.06%
COPPER 299.1 +3.50 +1.18%

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chassie321 on November 3, 2009 at 11:21 PM

so after being a republican seat for 130 years sarah palin got involved in the congressional race in ny 23 and the republicans/conservatives lost! last time this happened there were whigs running for seats!!

sarah....the gift that keeps on giving.

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gregg on November 3, 2009 at 11:55 PM

i watched ny23 hoffman's concession speech. the guy obviously had just completed a very difficult series of electro shock treatments and undoubtedly was the victim of hundreds of atomic wedgies in high school....if sarah and rush and glenn keep picking folks who are as nerdy as they are to run for office we can't lose.

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gregg on November 4, 2009 at 12:30 AM

ah sally tries again to turn a humiliating defeat that the entire redstate/teabagger/beck army was counting on to ride to dominance of the repelican party into a win! sarah and thompson and beck and rush and the whole crew were in the ny 23 up to their asses and sally knows it and in a district that hadn't gone democratic in 130 years the voters looked at that gaggle of assholes and mealy mouths and said FUCK NO !!

and sally the stupid shit knows it in her bones....hahahahahahahaha

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gregg on November 4, 2009 at 12:33 AM

When it comes to democrats voters need to stay on their backs to not be afraid of republicans. Republicans have a nasty history.

For example:

1. The Reagan/ Bush Home Loan Scandal
http://rationalrevolution0.tripod.com/war/bush_family_and_the_s.htm

2. The Bush/Cheney Home Loan Scandal
http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2009/0709macewan.html

3. What did Bush and Henry Paulson do with the bail out money?
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/10/good_billions_after_bad_one_year

4. Why did GW Bush Lie About Social Security?( This would cost taxpayers $4 trillion and wreck the economy)
http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2005/0505orr.html

5. Reagan/Bsuh Iran-Contra Secret Weapons Deal
* http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nsa/publications/irancontra/irancon.html
* http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/reagan/peopleevents/pande08.html

6. Reagan/Bush - Bush/Cheney Weapons Deals
* http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0208-05.htm
* http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/4120/we_arm_the_world/

7. $9 Billion Lost In Iraq
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/09/60minutes/main1302378.shtml

8. Thousands of Weapons Lost In Iraq May be Going To Taliban
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/11/AR2009021103281_pf.html

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merrill on November 4, 2009 at 05:41 AM

The dollar may be trouble in fact it may be deemed worthless in many circles. Jobs jobs jobs is the central issue.

Reagan/Bush began the big push of shoving jobs beyond our borders. Consequently millions upon millions lost jobs that have yet to be replaced.

FACE IT the USA needs 20 million new jobs with NEW INDUSTRY as the source.

USA citizens have got to say SCREW IT we don’t need bi-partianship WE NEED JOBS and WE NEED NEW INDUSTRY!

For the new administration it is about how Bush/Cheney wrecked the economy.

It is about how Bush/Cheney and their worshippers being idiots trying to blame Obama for the economy After Bush/Cheney managed to put 8 million people out of work.

This is about the RINO party that took over the republican party and wrecking the good republican name.

This RINO party is neither fiscally responsible nor socially responsible.


RINO's have taken over our city,state and federal governments.

RINO's represent Reaganomics = Wreckanomics by way of tax favors, war and financial scandals.

It's about the NEW RINO party that first entered the scene in 1980 which has cost the nation 15-20 million USA jobs.

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merrill on November 4, 2009 at 05:45 AM

Here's the deal. National Health Insurance is not a free ride and never will be perhaps with few exceptions.

You see my tax dollars will pay for my portion therefore no one else would be paying for MY National Health Insurance coverage.

However if you listen to the republican party NOT and Max Baucus you would be led to believe that my tax dollars are not my tax dollars. How can that be?

The fact that National Health Insurance would come from the rather substantial tax dollar cookie jars simply means that no monthly or weekly deductions would come out of my pay check per se..

Since federal, state, and local governments collect trillions in taxes of all kinds—income, sales, property, corporate etc etc this is how medical bills would be paid as it is now.

You see as we speak the government tax dollars support medical insurance payments to the tune of at least $1.2 trillion which is quite a gravy train I'd say. Next year this will increase by changing nothing and not passing the National Health Insurance Act.

In essence MY tax dollar amount to pay MY portion of National Health Insurance would be about $2700 annually for the entire family.

What coverage would this buy the family:

*long term care such that cancer demands
*prescription drugs
* hospital
* surgical
* outpatient services
* primary and preventive care
* emergency services
* dental
* mental health
* home health
* physical therapy
* rehabilitation (including for substance abuse)
* vision care
* hearing services including hearing aids
* chiropractic
* durable medical equipment
* palliative care

A good deal that would free up more expendable cash to be spent elsewhere thus creating new jobs. Things like birthdays,christmas,home improvements,taking better care of my lover and investments would benefit.

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merrill on November 4, 2009 at 05:47 AM

Shouldn't taxpayers have the choice of National Insurance For All? Absolutely!


A family of four making the median income of $56,200 would pay about $2,700 in payroll tax for all health care costs.

HR 676 ends deductibles and co-payments. HR 676 would save hundreds of billions annually by eliminating the high overhead and profits of the private health insurance industry and HMOs.


National Health Insurance
http://www.healthcare-now.org/

Doctors for Single Payer
http://www.pnhp.org/

Unions for HR 676
http://unionsforsinglepayerhr676.org/union_endorsers

Organizations and Government Bodies Endorsing HR 676
http://www.pnhp.org/action/organizations_and_government_bodies_endorsing_hr_676.php

Health Care In the USA
http://www.dollarsandsense.org/healthcare.html

Consumer Reports On Health Care
http://blogs.consumerreports.org/health/health_reform/


National Health Insurance does not remove competition from the actual health care industry. It will be alive and well. Profits will be based on customer service and clinic performance based on the clients experience. This is my perception of competition.

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merrill on November 4, 2009 at 05:50 AM

Smart National Health Insurance will save 400 billion annually by eliminating the high overhead and profits of the private health insurance industry and HMOs according to the Congressional Budget Office. Reduces admin waste,negotiates budgets for hospitals and purchases drugs in bulk = $400 billion in savings annually.

National Health Insurance does not remove competition from the actual health care industry. It will be alive and well. Profits will be based on customer service and clinic performance based on the clients experience. CHOICE returns to the clients ballpark.


Prudent reasons why National Health Insurance for All should be the choice for all in America: http://www.healthcare-now.org/ ( TRUE PUBLIC OPTION)

65% want citizen/taxpayer supported National Health Insurance plan:
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2009/09/25/us/politics/25pollgrx.html

Never never never forget… It is the private medical insurance industry that cancels YOUR medical insurance AFTER taking YOUR MONEY for years.

Smart National Health Insurance WILL NOT cancel your coverage.

Bankruptcy due to medical bills CANNOT happen with Smart National Health Insurance.

Smart National Health Insurance = CHOICE across the board

Smart Medicare Insurance for All will not only improve our quality of life but also our wallets. Yes we would have more expendable cash for birthdays,Christmas, vacations and investments.

Smart National Health Insurance is fiscally prudent.

How much is the sick U.S. health care system costing you?
http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2008/0508harrison.html

Bill Moyers - $380 million health care dollars spent thus far to stop reform
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/blog/2009/10/bill_moyers_michael_winship_in.html#more

Smart National Insurance ends deductibles and co-payments.

Smart National Health Insurance = true public option
http://www.healthcare-now.org/

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merrill on November 4, 2009 at 05:54 AM

Obviously Frosty has no legitimate rebuttal against HR 676 National Health Insurance.

That is understandable considering HR 676 National Health Insurance is the only true public option.

National Health Insurance is the only option which reduces the cost... an estimated $350-$400 billion annually according to the CBO.

HR 676 is what 65%-72% of the population
consistently desires.

National Health Insurance is a key player in bringing on new industry,supporting small business and the only way 15 million new jobs will find their way into a new USA economy.

Unfortunately too many democrats are looking like republicans on this issue. It is time for the Democratic party to be bold. This would put them in the drivers seat for many many many years to come.

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merrill on November 4, 2009 at 06:03 AM

It is time for the OBAMA democratic party to step up the plate and clean up the Obama administration.

Fire all former Bush admin people....all of them.

PEOPLE WANT an Obama administration not a Bush/Clinton administration.

Pres Obama show some courage. You are capable and YOU CAN DO IT.


The Hostile Take-Over of the Republican Party

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=a_hostile_takeover

Republican Strategic Errors of Monumental Proportions

What Can Be Done in Iraq?

by Lt. Gen. William E. Odom (Ret.)

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/odom.php?articleid=10396

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merrill on November 4, 2009 at 06:14 AM

And NJ wasn't even close enough for the Democrats to cheat on the recount.

62**Frosty** on November 4, 2009 at 12:35 AM

you limp noodle. there is no recount unless it is close or the loser requests one.

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Esmeralda on November 4, 2009 at 07:04 AM

Morning Dems........


Well, locally, my Mayor won again, but had no challengers, because people are happy with the way things are going.

Despite small turnout, Democrats won overwhelmingly. Town Council still Democratic majority. The new Tea Bag Party nuts (kind of like Hoffman in NY), lost big time.

I took my little 17 month old grandson to the polls yesterday, and as he toddled in, holding my hand, I yelled back to my Democratic council member holding her sign---"I am teaching him what being a Yellow Dog Liberal is all about".


Glad to see Owens won, over that Extreme Right Wing nutty ! My sister and her husband who live up there, told me last night on the phone, that they both voted for Owens, (they are Independents), because they could not stand Hoffman and the way he looks.


Too bad about NJ. Think I will design a bumper sticker and sell it in NJ on Craig's.

"After a year of Christie, you will be begging for Change. Vote Democratic Governor" :)

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 07:38 AM

i watched hoffman's concession speach, i thought it was a rerun of the show "V". he kept his fake human face on but his little lizard tongue kept flickering at the camera.....what a complete dweeb like clown!

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gregg on November 4, 2009 at 07:52 AM

Hey Merrill, thanks for all the good info.

Now if we could only get the close minded Repugs to read them, and consider the truth of them, maybe this would be a better world.


I agree----Obama has tried to include Republicans too much! Giving them opportunity to ignore his extended hand! It is time for him to run this country without them---despite McConnell and boner out there in front of the TV cameras, crying and whining that they never get a chance to present their proposals! What a crock of Crapola ! They don't have a thought between them that is anything but driving this country backwards again.

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 07:54 AM

Good morning all good Dems,

I was dumped last Friday and couldn't get back on until now. I emailed the contact on the website but nothing happened until this morning.

New Jersey gets what they deserved. They voted in a bushite who was part of the most corrupt attorney generals department in world history.


I hope they enjoy four years of despair and disillusion. They deserve it.

This buttfuq has a plan. "cut taxes", "cut taxes" and "cut taxes". It is a very detailed plan. It also includes "cutting taxes for the rich", "cutting taxes for the rich", and "cutting taxes for the rich."

For good measure he will cut out all social programs. he will screw the middle classs and he will pay off all his political buddies hannity and limpballs.

Good luck folks. You got what you voted for. It is time to move out of new jersey and leave it to the republican Mafia.

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johhne on November 4, 2009 at 07:57 AM

Morning Gregg, That is what turned my sister and brother in law off on Hoffman----that weird looking stare of his, that somehow you expect a bird to come out of his mouth and say "Cuckoo".


Everyone I saw on various panels on TV last night, mostly agreed----this has nothing to do with next year's elections----365 days in the future. And if health care gets passed----there will be a Surge for Democrats !

I may attend this today. I only wish Lieberman would be around. I would have one of those effigys of him hung on a pole!


When it comes to health care reform, whose side is Joe Lieberman on?

Sen. Lieberman, who has taken more than a million dollars in campaign contributions from health and insurance interests, is opposed to the public health insurance option. And he has indicated he might consider helping Republicans block an up-or-down vote on health care reform with a public option.


So, on Wednesday at 12:30 p.m. in Hartford, local MoveOn members will be releasing a report to the media that demonstrates how real health care reform with a public option will save money for Connecticut families.

A good crowd will put pressure on Sen. Lieberman and make sure this important information gets noticed by the press. Can you come show your support for a public option in Connecticut?

Yes, I'll be there at 12:30 p.m. on Wednesday

Sorry, I can't make it.

The report will detail:


How much the typical Connecticut family will save under proposed legislation with a public option, compared to health care legislation without it.
How much Sen. Lieberman has accepted in campaign contributions from insurance and HMO interests who are overwhelmingly opposed to health care reform.
Why only reform with a public option can solve the health care crisis facing America.

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 08:00 AM

Morning Johne,


glad to see you aboard. How did your local elections go?

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 08:07 AM

pam, yeah 2010 will be determined by how the economy is going, how our various conflicts around the world are going and just how creepy and demented the candidates that the right forces on the repelican party will be and based on my viewing of hoffman i'd say they are in deep shit...

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gregg on November 4, 2009 at 08:10 AM

LOL, Gregg, not even the magnificant Sarah Palin could pull off Hoffman! but then I posted an article above, that she really was not well liked up there in the boonies! Those residents are religious and easily led----but they are not masochists ! Unemployment up there is high, and they know more than gay marriage and abortion, JOBS and Economy are more important!

I must have missed Thomasss' pledge on the Bible last night. That he never worked at TORO.
I will keep looking, because sheesh, I would hate to be accusing him, if he and Michelle Law did not! :)


bbiab. Need another coffee and some toast.

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 08:15 AM

better quit the meth old harpie. even if it helps you stay up all day and night, it isn't good for the complexion.

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Esmeralda on November 4, 2009 at 08:18 AM

glad to see you aboard. How did your local elections go?
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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 08:07 AM

Morning Pam,

I don't get the local news except from the newspaper. We will elect a new governor next year. I hate to see Richardson go. The pugs are already scrambling and lying through their teeth to run. One piece of good news, the lockstepper congressperson, air farce religious academy graduate, bush lock-stepper heather wilson was going to run for governor. What a laugh. She just dropped out.

We did lose our great mayor in Albuquerque. He was replaced by a right-wing extremist no doubt. Remember, we have a large air base here in ABQ. I imagine a lot of the military folks are the right-wing extremist, religious nuts we are so fond of.

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johhne on November 4, 2009 at 08:21 AM

Morning Essie,

I wonder if meth is good for harporhoids?

Morning gregg,

Did the Dem win in New York. After the crap that the failin gestapo pulled it's no wonder. Why do people tolerate this crap at their polling places. They should have been run out of town.

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johhne on November 4, 2009 at 08:23 AM

Essie,

This one caught my ear last Sunday.

The Beatitudes (Matthew 5:1-12)

7Blessed are the merciful, for they shall be shown mercy.

9Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the sons of God.

11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.

Doesn't this just fit President Obama perfectly.

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johhne on November 4, 2009 at 08:27 AM

Our second stimulus project is starting the Monday after Thanksgiving. It runs about $5 million.

The first one started last week and I figure he will hire about 20 people during the life of the project.

They are both small local contractors.

We have two more stimulus projects in the wings, one for Arsenic removal and one for more sewer replacement. They will start in January.

Things are slow starting but it will all add up to a blazing economy sometime next year.

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johhne on November 4, 2009 at 08:32 AM

LOL, a couple of Governor races, and the GOP is having wet dreams! Just a note, Steele, we have a Repug Governor in this state of CT. The majority Dems here, just went thru and vetoed a bunch of her crappy bills ! She is nothing but a figurehead.


WASHINGTON – An ebullient Republican Party Chairman Michael Steele asserted Wednesday that GOP victories in governors' races in New Jersey and Virginia demonstrate "a transcendent party" on the move again. Democratic Party Chairman Tim Kaine said that nothing about the election returns amounted to a repudiation of President Barack Obama.

"We're not crowing, we're just smiling," Steele said in a nationally broadcast interview. "I think it's a bellwether for the party ... You look at where we were nine months ago."

Steele said he believes Chris Christie's victory in New Jersey and Robert McDonnell's win in Virginia show that the GOP has "really found its voice again" after sustaining damaging losses last year.

Kaine, who will be succeeded at the Virginia statehouse by McDonnell, said he thought voter anxiety about jobs and the economy played heavily in the balloting and said the defeat of incumbent Gov. Jon Corzine in New Jersey and candidate Creigh Deeds in Virginia shouldn't be seen as a referendum on Obama. He said Obama "really retains a strong popularity among the voters."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091104/ap_on_el_ge/us_election_reax

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 08:40 AM


here you go, Johne. After 100 years of Repugs !

Democrat wins House seat in heavily GOP area in NY


ALBANY, N.Y. – President Barack Obama's decision in June to appoint a Republican congressman to a Pentagon post has paid dividends in November now that Democrats have gained the House seat by capitalizing on a split between moderates and conservatives in the GOP.

Lawyer and retired Air Force Capt. Bill Owens won the special election Tuesday in northern New York in which the Republican candidate withdrew over the weekend under pressure from the party's right wing and GOP heavyweights endorsed the Conservative Party nominee.

Owens said he hopes to bring the heavily Republican district together after the contentious race left the GOP with one less seat in this bluest of states.

"Our challenges aren't Democratic or Republican. They're not liberal or conservative. They are American challenges that we will overcome with American resolve," Owens said in his victory speech. "The only way that we can create jobs and attract economic development to our communities is by bringing people of all parties together and giving everyone a seat at the table."

With 92 percent of the precincts reporting early Wednesday, Owens defeated businessman Doug Hoffman, the Conservative Party candidate, 49 percent to 45 percent, after a boost from unified labor efforts in the last days of the campaign.

The GOP had represented the region for more than a century. Republican John McHugh vacated the seat to become Army secretary.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091104/ap_on_el_ho/us_ny_special_election

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 08:43 AM


Predictably, victorious Republicans tried to spin their wins in Virginia and New Jersey as a referendum on the man who, almost exactly a year before, had won both states handily in the 2008 presidential election. "This is the first time since 1997 that the Republican Party has swept all three top state offices in Virginia," GOP Chairman Michael Steele crowed as the first results came in. "The Republican Party's overwhelming victory in Virginia is a blow to President Obama and the Democrat Party. It sends a clear signal that voters have had enough of the president's liberal agenda." (Read David Plouffe on Obama's 2008 victory.)


But in fact, Obama still enjoys favorable approval ratings in both Virginia and New Jersey. And according to the exit polls, he wasn't much of a motivator for the relatively small numbers of voters who actually bothered to cast a ballot. In New Jersey, 60% said the President was not a factor in their decisions; among those who said he was, nearly as many were there to show their support (19%) as their opposition (20%) to Obama. In Virginia, the results were similar. Weighing far more heavily were concerns about the economy. (Read "What's Still Wrong with Wall Street.")


What the election may have shown is that Obama's popularity cannot be transferred. The President had campaigned and raised money for both Corzine and Deeds; Obama had also tried to put the remnants of his own campaign operation to use on their behalf. But many of those who voted for him in 2008, particularly young people and African-Americans, stayed home this year. And in the end, both Corzine and Deeds stumbled on their own weaknesses.

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 08:47 AM

and Bloomberg almost was not able to buy his term again !!!


NYC mayor bruised by surprisingly close victory

NEW YORK – Billionaire Mayor Michael Bloomberg heads toward a third term bruised by a surprisingly close re-election battle that exposed lingering anger over his reversal on term limits and his prodigious campaign spending.

In the days leading up to the election, Bloomberg was expected to secure an easy victory, perhaps by double digits. But he won by just five percentage points — an advantage of less than 51,000 votes out of just over a million cast.

The mayor called it a "hard-fought victory in a very difficult year," and promised that New Yorkers "ain't seen nothing yet" from him.

"I'm committed to working twice as hard in the next four years as I did in the past eight," Bloomberg said.

Facing an underdog Democratic opponent who had little money and no name recognition, Bloomberg still waged the most expensive self-financed political campaign in U.S. history.

But city Comptroller William Thompson Jr. hammered the mayor relentlessly on term limits, saying Bloomberg went back on his word when he orchestrated a change to a term-limits law that voters had upheld by referendum twice in the 1990s.

Thompson also blasted Bloomberg as an out-of-touch elitist who abandoned the middle class. But Thompson gave voters few other reasons to support him.

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 08:49 AM

Good morning, DEMS!

I just heard some research dude say that Virginia hasn't had the same Party in the Governor's seat for three consecutive terms in over 40 years.

So this is NO referendum on Obama in any way shape or form. Also, Deeds ran a crappy campaign that totally ignored the Northern Counties.

Slime Slimy in N.J. had a 14%+ lead just a few months ago and his support has been tanking the more people found out about him, so his winning by 5% is also no great shakes. And BOTH of these races were about local issues, NOT anything to do with D.C.

The 2 races that DID have to do with D.C. were CA10, which was won by a Dem, and NY23, which was also won by a Dem, in fact the first Dem snce the dawn of Cr4eation.

THAT was the "referendum with National Implications". It showed the Baggers that even the Pug Districts have some thinking people in them, and the Bagger's brand of Nazi-ism doesn't play with the sane people of the Country. They were PISSED at all th4e carpetbaggers (and teabaggers) who swarmed in there meddling with their local affairs all for an ideology, and their "Public be damned" attitude.

Massive FAIL, Sorry Failin!


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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 09:09 AM

DooBee,


Just think how the Repugs would be in here crowing right now, had Hoffman won. OH, it would all be because of Palin and Beck! That the Extreme Religious Right fringe was alive and well ! Oh, gay marriage and abortion---so so bad ! hahahahahahaha.....

Sarah Palin is still nothing! a low class bimbo with a loud mouth!

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 10:01 AM

A BEST SOLUTION OF AFGHANISTAN CRISIS:

I'm totally agree with A.R.Shams (of Pakistan's ) comments on web site ofBBC.News (HAVE A SAY) against a news abourAfghanistant "What next to do ?" i.e. herewit, as under :

"The best president of Afghanistan would be the one who can restore peace and harmony in the country, otherwise, no use of election or re-election in the country that causes unrest and loss of national economy and energy worthlessly". But, I say, how is it possible? How to control Extremists, Terrorists and underground-Activists as well ? 0bviously, Group of 8 Developing countries of OIC & Regional players can play a positive role, only.

Of course, United State & all of the allies along with UN & relevant Agencies, NGO's& stakeholders must have to provide all sort of social & political, Technical & Financial, Peace & sustainable development support, however, I don't hesitate to repeat once again that :

"Afghanistan is a regional problem now, so the 'regional-players' are actually responsible to bother for".

And my this ONE sentence is "A BEST SOLUTION OF AFGHANISTAN CRISIS" , should have to be better understandable in perspective of recent diagnosis of reason of terror-crisis resulted to a loss of lives of peoples especially a HEAVY loss of Muslims, for that OIC have right concerns according to OIC-secretary General - Mr. Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu who suggests through OIC especially by OIC Group of the 8 Countries to work out on root-causes for remedy of terror-based problems, to resolve with an integrated approach encompassing political, economic & social aspects.

Let us make an strategy for Replacement of Unites State & Allied western forces by "PEACE-KEEPING-FORCES" with mutual understanding to manage Peace & development matters by the Nearest (to Afghan-Cultural) Traditional Forces of Group of 8 Developing countries of OIC & Regional-Players along with national & international NGOs like 'Hilal-e-Ahmer'(Red–Cross), also to extend development works on social-political-economic sectors as well as Training of Afghan Forces & law enforcement agencies to control those common elements who are required to deal for. So that, an immediate OIC-Summit to join the Heads of OIC member Countries is a 'binding' requirement with all 'confidence-taking' prior planning & measures to do so.

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TahirZaheer on November 4, 2009 at 01:37 PM


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