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Morning Open Thread

Posted by Jonah on November 4, 2009 at 10:51 AM

Good morning.



Interpreter Patsy Arizu leans forward to listen to President Barack Obama, as he talks with Spanish President Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero. Photo by Pete Souza.
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thomassss knows darn well, that I DARED him to go get a Bible, put his hand on it, and say he swore on his Mother's soul, that he had never worked at TORO, but he is playing childish games .

If you don't have the guts to do it, Thomassss, just say so ! We know what a small little man you are----- prove us wrong!

go get it, now. run along and see if you can find such a thing in your little apartment as a BIBLE. Then you swear to me that you never worked at toro, never used the name Michelle Law, etc. got the guts, yellow belly?

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Pam, more comparisons from the researchers. In 2001 right after 9-11 (~7 weeks) at the height of Chimpy's sympathy popularity the Pugs LOST BOTH VA and NJ.

So why is the big doom and gloom talking point today, when of the 10 races yesterday, the Dems won 8?

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Good Morning All

Even though the "Liberal" media has not spoken to the fact that Democrats won 8 seats yesterday, including one Congressional seat that hasn't been won in 150 years, it was a stellar day for the Democratic Party.

Why are our leaders not out there reminding the nation of this?

We won 2 Congressional seats while the Republicans won NONE.

Where is the head of the DNC? Why is there silence?

I think that we need to bombard everyone with these facts!

Plus we need to remind all what the exit polling was saying in NJ and VA - the majority still support President Obama and did not vote against what he was doing..

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GBGram on November 4, 2009 at 11:54 AM

BTW

Why did FOX News call NYC Mayor a Republican last night and this morning?

He left the CON party in 2007!

He is an Independent.

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GBGram on November 4, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Reid and Pelosi are toxic assets that will reverse the Democratic gains of the 2008 elections.

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swimminghawk on November 4, 2009 at 12:22 PM

GB Gram, and Bloomberg BARELY squeaked by, after sinking 100 million dollars of his own money into buy the seat !


Hoffman Gets His Teabags Dunked by Democrat Owens in New York's 23rd!
Submitted by mark karlin on Wed, 11/04/2009 - 10:34am. EditorBlog
BUZZFLASH EDITOR'S BLOG

By Mark Karlin

Forget about the two GOP govenor pick-ups in VA and NJ. The splash heard 'round the country was Right Wing Nut Job (RWNJ) Doug Hoffman getting his teabags dunked by Democrat Bill Owens in New York's 23rd Congressional District, which borders the "socialist" nation of Canada.

Oh, Beck, Pawlenty, the Club for Growth and Dick Armey's gang of Tea Party propagandists thought that this would be the shot that officially started the Civil War in the GOP. But add this to Sarah Palin's ever downward trend in political forays (she prominently endorsed Hoffman, who was running on the New York Conservative Party ticket -- New York has a number of long-standing independent parties -- over the official GOP candidate, one Dierdre Scozzafava); Sarah's going rogue by chronically being on the losing side.

Hoffman was defeated in a district that hasn't been represented by a Democrat as long as anyone living -- or dead -- can remember. The next Republican who gets Palin's endorsement should remember that the pit bull from Alaska is the kiss of death. You definitely don't want her lipstick on your collar if you are running for office (except for maybe South Carolina, where they still think that they can win the Civil War.)

Money flowed into Hoffman's campaign, who had all the charisma of a molding cauliflower, but he still lost by just under (4%) -- in divine justice -- because of the margin of vote garnered by Scozzafava, who received 6% of the vote because her name was still on the ballot after she withdrew just days before the election, as she was teabagged out of the race.

So Republican Candidate Scozzafava proved Hoffman's undoing, even though she was no longer officially a candidate. (Her withdrawal came too late for her name to be removed from the voting machines). Let that be a lesson to "going rogue."

What's more, although there were allegedly 10,000 absentee and military ballots still unopened, Hoffman conceded last night. Why? Because all those ballots were cast before Scozzafava withdrew and Hoffman was embraced by the "let's put America in reverse" crowd, so Scozzafava would probably be the biggest beneficiary of the absentee ballots, decreasing Hoffman's percentage of the vote even further.
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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 12:41 PM


Translating Yesterday's Results

In the run up to yesterday's off-year elections, conservatives sought to cast the high-profile contests as a referendum on President Obama's first year in office. "These are bellwether races -- not just as a referendum on this administration, but on our party as well," said Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele. "So is this really a referendum on Obama, or is this just the political tide changing?" Fox News' Sean Hannity asked former Bush adviser Karl Rove. "Well, I think it's both," replied Rove. Despite the fact that Obama's party lost control of the governor's mansions in both Virginia and New Jersey, claims of a referendum do not pan out. While the two governorships have gone to the party not in control of the White House in every election since 1989, the results have not correlated with presidential approval, indicating that they are not a referendum on presidential leadership. "The Democratic losses of these two governorships should not be interpreted as a significant blow to President Obama," writes CNN Political Editor Mark Preston, noting that 56 percent of Virginians said in exit polls that the President was not a factor in their vote, while 60 percent of New Jersey voters said the same. In fact, "just under half the voters in Virginia, 48 percent, approved of the way Obama is handling his job, rising to 57 percent in New Jersey." Additionally, Democrat Bill Owens' victory over Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman in New York's 23rd district -- where Hoffman's third-party candidacy became the vessel for a Republican Party civil war -- dealt "a major setback to conservative organizations." Still, while yesterday's election was not a referendum on the President, the tea leaves do highlight challenges for the administration going forward as "a vast 89 percent in New Jersey and 85 percent in Virginia said they were worried about the direction of the nation's economy in the next year."


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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Reid and Pelosi are toxic assets that will reverse the Democratic gains of the 2008 elections


As I recall, Reid and Pelosi were both in leadership positions from 2006, 2 years PRIOR to the 2008 elections. If they were so toxic, I wonder how the party suceeded as much as they did November 4th, 2008?

I am no big fan of Reid, but I think the Dems dislike him more than Independents or Repugs.

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 12:46 PM

Dream on, old man Dufus, Dream on! Some Democrat you are, huh????? You're merely an ass. Go to your part time job, will you? Maybe you can pay for those mental health out patient visits !

Saw Pat Buchanan on MSNBC a while ago. I LOL when he said this election was Terrible for the Democrats !

This from GB Gram above is right on:


"Even though the "Liberal" (haha) media has not spoken to the fact that Democrats won 8 seats yesterday, including one Congressional seat that hasn't been won in 150 years, it was a stellar day for the Democratic Party.

Why are our leaders not out there reminding the nation of this?

We won 2 Congressional seats while the Republicans won NONE.

Where is the head of the DNC? Why is there silence? (HE WAS JUST ON MSNBC)

I think that we need to bombard everyone with these facts!

Plus we need to remind all what the exit polling was saying in NJ and VA - the majority still support President Obama and did not vote against what he was doing..

NOW I WONDER IF DEMOCRATS HAD WON THOSE 2 GOVERNOR SEATS------WOULD THE REPUGS BE STILL SAYING IT WAS A REFERENDUM ON OBAMA???????? me thinks NO!

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 01:20 PM

Good afternoon fellow Americans. Good morning to the left coast.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 01:26 PM

Barack's effectiveness has been neutralized. Another look at who he surrounds himself with might render some needed enlightenment. Except for Axelrod, Barack has lost his groove. Time to reshuffle, and get back to basics.

I have faith and look forward to a grand future for this administration, and "We the People". No time to veer off course now.

Good Luck
appul

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appul on November 4, 2009 at 01:33 PM

As the hangover fades from last night's wake here in the Commonwealth of VA, I feel it incumbent upon myself to give y'all the view from VA in regards to last night's elections.

The gubnetorial race in VA was a blowout. There is no other way to describe it. The GOP did a better job on the GOTV front and their was lackluster support for a lackluster candidate in State Sen. R. Creigh Deeds (D- Bathe Co., VA). Don't get me wrong, Sen. Deeds is a good man and would've made a fine governor though his campiagn style leaves something to be desired as he could not defeat the "barefoot and pregnant" GOP candidate, Governor-elect Bob McDonnell. But in the end, we Democrats in VA are to blame because we nominated Sen. Deeds in a three person primary. He defeated Terry McAuliffe and Rep. Moran (D-VA). I share that responsibility with my fellow Democrats in this regard.

Gov. Corzine (D-NJ) was a protest vote against big business and corruption, IMHO. As we all know, Gov. Corzine was the head of Goldman Sachs prior to getting hiself elected to the Senate. I would love to hear RJ's take on this race as he had a front row view of it.

Now, on to the good news. NY23, a district that has voted Republican since 1871, elected a Democrat last night defeating the Fox "News" candidate, Doug Hoffman, who, day before yesterday, vowed to support Glenn Beck and called him a mentor. If you can't get a conservative elected in a district that is 70%+ Republican, that should send a stark message to the GOP that the lunatic fringe of the GOP, which has taken over in the form of Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, will drive the party into oblivion at this rate.

One other major difference should be noted as well. Sarah Palin campaigned for Doug Hoffman in NY23. She did not campaign for Governors-elect McDonnell or Christie. Notice the difference in the outcomes? So I would sincerely hope that the GOP nominates Ms. Palin for POTUS in 2012. That way, President Obama probably wouldn't have to campaign more than a day or two a week and could concentrate on running the nation's affair and we would still end up with a blowout that would be a mirror image of 1984.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 02:42 PM

FOX "News" Opinion Dynamics Poll, 10-30-09

Q15) Are you satisfied w/ accomplishments so far?

YES: 56% NO: 43%

Q22) Who is responsible for the state of the economy?

ALL: Obama, 18% Chimpy, 58%
Pugs: Obama, 35% Chimpy, 27%

FOX "News" Opinion Dynamics Poll, 10-30-09 (PDF

More here: Bush blamed for economy: FOX survey

YOUR numbers came from an Opinion Piece by some right wing loonie from The American Spectatorwho won the laughable "honor" of "journalist of the year for 2009 by the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC)" trinket from the Wingnut Welfare convention, using Rasmussen's phony numbers.

Oh, and THERE IS NO SUCH THING as "the daily Presidential Tracking Poll". It's just some number formula he invented last October when it bacame obvious to everyone that McNuts and Sorry Failin were going to tank link the Titanic.

So, she has managed (so far) to kill McNut's campaign AND the sure Pug win in NY23, AND she basically quit the Pug Party when she "went rouge" and endorsed the Conservative Party candidate. Everything she has touched has turned to shit overnight.

She has her eye on being the Presidential candidate in 2012 for the Conservative Party because she KNOWS that the Pugs hate her guts and she will never be the Nominee let alone win any Primaries.

That screechy bitch is making herself more irrelevant every day.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 02:51 PM

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 02:42 PM

Bob, both McDonnell and Christie told Sorry Failin to keep her traveling flea circus AWAY from their campaigns. They had better things to do than baby sit a whiny litle spotlight hogging loose cannon who was attempting to ride their coat tails and make it all about HER. It's always "me me me" with that bitch.

Unfortunately, Sorry Failin never let the message sink into her empty head and she did robo-calls for McDonnell over the last few days and his campaign IS PISSED(!) that she went behind their backs and did it on her own with funding from the loonies that funnel money into SarahPac.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 03:00 PM

Good afternoon, all.

It's been a busy couple of days for me with the economy beginning to finally generate some business again. I'm not going to be able to visit here as often...I hope.

So. A former Wall Street banker, a lackluster Republican Lite, and Palin all lost at the polls yesterday (and she wasn't even running). There was nary a progressive in the whole bunch.

When a Democrat isn't offering anything but "more of the same" how can you expect anyone to vote for you? It's time to not only be the alternative but deliver on real change.

I hope everyone at the DNC and in Congress has learned an important lesson here. Running as Republican Lite or as part of the the same corrupt, gridlock system that brought down our middle class way of life and credit/financial markets will not be tolerated.

Democratic candidates must stand for something besides the status quo. You must deliver on the new policies that were promised or people will vote in protest...for whoever else is on the ballot.

The unemployed and underemployed middle class is facing tough times these days because of the inaction in Washington. So why shouldn't politicians face the same brave new world that the rest of us are?

Democrats and Independents don't want bi-partisan agreement. They want progressive change. Give it to them or they will give you the boot. Be the change that gets the job done.

We've had 35 years of incompetence. Don't be surprised if voters are getting impatient.

Voters don't want excuses. They want progressive action.

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SandyH on November 4, 2009 at 03:35 PM

heehee, hey DooBee, do you notice that the girlies today, are trying to pretend that winning two Republican seats as Governor, was MORE important than someone just like themselves----the anti-abortion, anti gays, Palin campaigned, Hoffman in NY? That in a RIGHT WING area , where they were sure they could waltz another Religious freak into office ----they lost? hmmmmm, I wonder what kind of message they were trying to send????? If exit polls were asked, I am sure they were trying to send the message that they STRONGLY approve of Obama and what he has done!!! :)

Like I said, if VA and NJ went to Democrats----would the girls be accepting that it was a Referendum on Obama and Democrats??????

Plus we need to remind all what the exit polling was saying in NJ and VA - the majority still support President Obama and did not vote against what he was doing..

I watched a lot of roundtable last night---and even the Republican guys were saying the same thing. Only Buchanan today, was sour grapes.

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 03:48 PM

BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 02:42 PM

Bob,

So the primary was three way? Was there any outside interference contributing to making sure that the weakest candidate would win?

I'm quite frankly baffled with where Kaine was in all of this. He is the one now charting the strategy for the Midterms across the country. Should we be concerned? He couldn't deliver in his own state. Something is wrong here.

Maybe I'm just not aware of the internal politics within the Virginia Democratic party. Is there a split? Why did the weakest candidate end up on the ballot?

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SandyH on November 4, 2009 at 03:49 PM


Dear Pamela-

From the bottom of my heart, I want to say thanks for all you’ve done for our campaign for Congress.

I’m honored by the trust the voters of the 23rd district have placed in me. I look forward to representing you in Congress and working to bring jobs to Upstate New York, reforming healthcare, and strengthening the economy.

Thank you for all your hard work. We couldn’t have won without all the time and energy you dedicated to our campaign. From the day I was nominated by the country chairs to run as the Democrat in this district, we faced an uphill battle. Together we built an amazing campaign from the ground up built around our commitment to finding bipartisan solutions on behalf of our best interests. We’ve had an exceptional journey.

There is much work to do and I am anxious to get started. I look forward to hearing from you as we begin this new journey together.

Many thanks,

Bill Owens

Another failed attempt to shove something down our throats.

You don't live in Maine, MN Thmasssss---if there is anything shoved down your throat, check your ass! You got your head shoved up it !


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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 03:50 PM

PamB on November 4, 2009 at 03:48 PM

Pam,

But they are not supporting the gridlock in Congress. It's time to drop the bi-partisan attempts at compromise. The Republicans are stalling to making us look bad.

And we are bad if we allow them to do it. Is this the best that can be accomplished when we could be using reconciliation like Lott did? Independents get really angry about that sort of foot dragging. I know because that's what I was for nearly 30 years.

If Reid and Rahm can't deliver, they need to step aside and let those who are willing to move our agenda forward do it. The only real risk to Blue Dogs and the President now is that they might look ineffective. It's time to put the health care coverage and energy bills to a vote.

Let the voters see where everyone stands. Independents will vote in protest against any who stay on the fence and do not act. They will reward those that risk something for the common good of the majority.

You have to believe. Is that so hard?

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SandyH on November 4, 2009 at 04:01 PM

Sarah is the threat that Republicans cannot embrace. Neither of the GOP Governor candidates did. The one in New Jersey actually ran as an Obama Republican.

But I'm looking for your party to do just that in 2010. Boss Limbaugh will not be denied. Beck will not be ignored. And Palin can't keep her trap shut.

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SandyH on November 4, 2009 at 04:25 PM


What a ridiculous concept. How can two people get married when the very definition of marriage requires a man and a woman?


Well, Stevieboy, you are so concerned aboiut the definition? Well DOMA is currently being reviewed in congress as to changing from the old archaiac definition, to one that more suits the 21st Century! Welcome to Real World.

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 04:44 PM

SandyH on November 4, 2009 at 03:49 PM

Not really, on the primary question, Sandy. State Sen. Deeds lost to Governor-elect McDonnell in 2005 for VA AG by less than a thousand votes which is the same election that elected Gov. Kaine (D-VA). Sen. Deeds' 2005 campaign was superior to his 2009 campaign.

I would not be too concerned about Gov. Kaine running the DNC. He is an able administrator. VA has been named the best managed state in the union at least twice during his tenure and has never fallen out of the top three. The only thing that concerns me about a DNC Chairman Kaine is that he may be too nice a guy. Former Chairman Dean knew how and when to get nasty with the GOP. I've yet to see that necessary trait from Chairman Kaine. Time will tell.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 04:45 PM

NEW JERSEY AND VIRGINIA: In both Virginia and New Jersey, voters ranked the economy as their top issue of concern. Voters who focused on the economy favored Republican Bob McDonnell over Democratic nominee Creigh Deeds by an 18-point margin. In contrast, defeated New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine (D) "won economy voters by a broad margin" over Republican Chris Christie. Local issues were paramount in both races. But as Newsweek's Howard Fineman said on MSNBC last night, the real story of the gubernatorial elections may be how the face of the electorate changed from 2008 to 2009. "This was a revolution in reverse, or a rebellion reverse in the sense that it was as much about people who didn't turn out in Virginia and maybe as much about people who don't turn out in New Jersey," said Fineman. "The Obama supporters didn't show up in anywhere near the numbers they did." Indeed, as Politico's Ben Smith pointed out, "this wasn't your president's electorate." In 2008, young voters were 21 percent of Virginia's electorate while yesterday, just 10 percent of voters were under the age of 30. Though youth turnout is always down in off-year elections, the fact that Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds ran away from core progressive priorities might explain why there was such a huge drop off, considering that the so-called "millennial generation" is strongly progressive. Deeds ran against transitioning to a clean energy economy and dithered on the public option for health care reform.

NEW YORK AND CALIFORNIA: While conservative politicians found success in statewide Virginia and New Jersey contests yesterday, the special congressional elections in New York's 23rd district and California's 10th district told very different tales. Hoffman's four-point loss to Owens in upstate New York marks the first time in a century that the seat will not be held by a Republican -- and it's "a setback for national conservatives who heavily promoted" his campaign. Hoffman, who considers Glenn Beck to be a "mentor," became a hero to grassroots conservatives when he mounted a third-party campaign against Republican nominee Dede Scozzafava. Tea Party activists and special interest groups like the Club for Growth declared Scozzafava too liberal because she supports "gay rights and abortion rights and had embraced some Democratic economic policies like the federal stimulus package." Over the weekend, Scozzafava dropped out of the race and endorsed Owens, saying that he "understands this district and its people, and when he represents us in Congress he will put our interests first." Hoffman, who lives outside the district, "didn't even try to pretend that the election was about the issues of the district," instead trying to make it about proving the power of the Tea Parties and Glenn Beck's 9/12 project. While the national media focused on NY-23, they largely ignored the evidence of a progressive resurgence in CA-10. California Lt. Gov. John Garamendi resoundingly won the contest to fill Blue Dog Democrat Ellen Tauscher's vacant seat. Garamendi is an unabashed liberal. He is a strong supporter not only of a public option, but of a single-payer Medicare-for-all health care system, supports the creation of an exit strategy from Afghanistan, and actually defeated Tauscher's hand-picked candidate for the Democratic endorsement.

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 04:46 PM

There was no "sweep". Out of the 10 elective offices, EIGHT were won by Dems, and BTW, Governors have ZERO say in what happens in Congress, dope.

VA hasn't elected the same Party to 3 consecutive terms of Governor for over 40 years, so that is just following the trend, and Christie had a lead of over 14% less than 2 months ago and only won by 5%. And Deeds ran a shitty campaign that everybody knew was doomed from the start. The Pug ran as a Centrist Dem (although he is a far right wingnut) and Deeds ran as a Centrist Blue-dog Pug-Lite. As Harry Truman said, any time a Dem runs as a Pug the voters will vote for the real Pug.

HARDLY a "sweep". The Dems won TWO House seats, the Pugs lost 1 for a net House GAIN if 1 extra Dem. The seat the Dems picked up was so Pug that the last time anyone other than a Pug won it, he was a Whig, over 140 years ago.

But go on and pamper yourself with false security and keep running more lunatics like Sorry Failin and her minions. PLEASE!

So what is her score so far? Oh, that's right, Won ZERO, Lost TWO.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 04:47 PM

They've come a long way, baby!!


DOWN THE BALLOT: In Maine last night, same-sex marriage advocates were handed a disappointing defeat as voters "repealed the state's same sex marriage law after an emotionally charged campaign that drew large numbers to the polls." "Gay-rights activists had hoped Maine voters -- known for their moderate, independent-minded views -- would have been the first to endorse same-sex marriage in a statewide ballot," but with 87 percent of precincts reporting as of 2 a.m. last night, "gay marriage opponents claimed 53 percent of the vote to supporters' 47 percent." Election day news wasn't all bad news, however, for the gay rights movement. Politico's Ben Smith notes that "a lesbian candidate for Houston mayor whose campaign had become a cause celebre in the gay community, Annise Parker, won a surprising plurality and takes a strong hand into the run-off in that city, not generally seen as a gay rights hub. A gay man was also elected mayor of Chapel Hill." Additionally, Detroit elected a gay City Council president. In Washington state, voters narrowly approved Referendum 71 granting "registered domestic partners additional state-granted rights currently given only to married couples."

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 04:49 PM

aHHH, THE LOCK STEPPING NAZI PARTY IS ON THE ATTACK! God forbid an Olympia Snowe should dare to not circle her wagon around radical, right wing crap she does not believe in!


"RADICAL RIGHT -- ARMEY TO MEET WITH AUTHOR OF TOWN HALL HARASSMENT MEMO TO PLAN PURGE OF MODERATES FROM THE GOP: The Hartford Courant reported Tuesday that former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, chairman of FreedomWorks and chief astroturf organizer, is planning to travel to Fairfield, CT on Nov. 11 for a "strategy session" with conservative activists, including Bob MacGuffie, the original author of the infamous town hall harassment strategy memo. Armey will be discussing how to scale-up the purging of moderates from the GOP, a strategy that created a national sensation in New York's 23rd congressional district. As The Progress Report first reported in late July, MacGuffie authored the now infamous memo detailing how conservative activists can successfully disrupt Democratic health care town halls. The memo was distributed through a listserv controlled by FreedomWorks, the corporate front group which organized the tea party movement earlier this year. In town hall after town hall this August, MacGuffie's strategy was used to target members of Congress who were considering supporting health care reform. Although Armey disputed his relation to the memo, both Rolling Stone and Talking Points Memo have verified that FreedomWorks staffers, like FreedomWorks Florida coordinator Tom Gaitens, control the Tea Party Patriots listserv that distributed the memo. Armey has gone so far as denying even knowing Gaitens, even though he has worked for FreedomWorks for years and can be seen in the last 10 seconds of this ABC News segment handing a microphone to Armey. Both MacGuffie and Armey are targeting Republican candidates like Sens. Lindsey Graham (SC) and Olympia Snowe (ME), Reps. Bob Inglis (SC) and Mark Kirk (IL), Gov. Charlie Crist (FL), and other Republicans who have strayed from rigid party-line positions.


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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 04:53 PM

Limpnuts, Beck, and his Birthers, Army, and sorry Fallin, i almost fell sorry for Hoffman, he didn't stand a chance.

WAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Maybe you all can resurrect Jerry Falwell.

WHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 04:58 PM


A Lesson from Yesterday's Election


The Republican Party isn’t dead. Republicans can survive, and even thrive, if they appear to embrace moderation. But yesterday, the Sarah Palin-“movement conservative” wing of Republicanism was shown to be wildly unpopular.
As you surely know, Democrat Bill Owens defeated Conservative Party candidate Douglas Hoffman yesterday in the Special Election for Congress in New York’s 23rd district. This was a stunner because the 23rd is a bedrock Republican district—essentially held by the Republican Party for the entire 20th century.

Republicans made the “mistake” of nominating a moderate-conservative woman, Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava, who supports gay rights and abortion rights. The right wing was appalled. The likes of Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck denounced the Assemblywoman.

Sarah Palin jumped on this right-wing bandwagon and endorsed Hoffman over Scozzafava and the race became a cause célèbre for “movement conservatives” across the country. As the New York Times reported:

The Club for Growth, a group that promotes limited government and lower taxes, spent about $1 million promoting Mr. Hoffman. Social conservative organizations like the Susan B. Anthony List, which opposes abortion, and the National Organization for Marriage, which fights same-sex marriage laws, joined forces in support of Mr. Hoffman. They printed literature, made phone calls and flooded the district with volunteers from across the country.
Assemblywoman Scozzafava shocked everyone when she first withdrew from the race and then, the next day, threw her support to Bill Owens, the Democrat. Despite weekend polls showing that Hoffman would surely win, Owens came out on top.

Here’s the lesson: Voters continue to allow conservative candidates to define themselves. The Republican candidates for governor in both New Jersey and Virginia promoted themselves as practical, mainstream, and moderate—and persuadable voters believed them. But even bedrock Republicans will reject candidates who openly embrace the extremist, tea-bagger philosophy that dominates Republicans in our Nation’s Capital.

There’s another example in yesterday’s election. Right wingers tried to pass a “Taxpayers Bill of Rights” (TABOR) by referendum in the states of Maine and Washington. This is a measure that ties the growth of state, county and local budgets to population growth and the rate of inflation, hamstringing legislators and forcing draconian cuts during any economic downturn. The TABOR initiative was adopted in Colorado in 1992 and extremists have been trying for years to get it passed elsewhere.

But TABOR was defeated handily, by 60 to 40 percent in Maine and by 55 to 45 in Washington. Even in a terrible recession, voters rejected government-by-ideology

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 04:59 PM

PamB on November 4, 2009 at 04:53 PM

And these were the same people who were saying Obama had an enemies list?

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SandyH on November 4, 2009 at 05:01 PM

In the 2010 midterms, we will have the Young, and the black vote, out in force, to send the Birthers to the basement.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 05:04 PM

In the 2010 midterms, i will be concentrating my entire effort, with the young folks, and the black folks. And get out the vote.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 05:15 PM

Harpo_TheWatchman on November 4, 2009 at 04:37 PM

...The Republican fought Deeds' charges that he intended to advance a socially conservative agenda. McDonnell emphasized his efforts to promote and support working women and focused on local concerns, such as unclogging Virginia's highways. He ignored an offer from a favorite of GOP conservatives, former Alaska governor Sarah Palin, to campaign for him...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-11-03-va-governor_N.htm


Republican gubernatorial candidate Bob McDonnell repeatedly and personally asked former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin for help this summer in his campaign for Virginia governor, a Palin spokeswoman said.

But by late August, Palin learned that the McDonnell campaign no longer wanted her assistance, Palin adviser Meg Stapleton said in an interview tonight.


Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/11/palin-mcdonnell-personall_n_316685.html&cp


Y'all keep that crazy broad out of our Commonwealth. Even the Republicans here don't want her.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 05:19 PM

Y'all keep that crazy broad out of our Commonwealth. Even the Republicans here don't want her.

53BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 05:19 PM

Very well said Bob, with crazy being the key word.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 05:24 PM

54Harpo_TheWatchman on November 4, 2009 at 05:23 PM

As per usual you missed the point the young covers everyone of those groups. Damn if you ain't stupid.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 05:28 PM
"This is about New Jersey issues and New Jersey, and I don't think having Gov. Palin here would do me, or frankly the state, a whole lot of good in the sense that we need to talk and focus on what the New Jersey issues are," Christie said during a radio interview on New Jersey 101.5 FM. CNN confirmed his comments with Christie's campaign.

Christie won't ask for Palin's help

(...)

In June, Palin and McDonnell spoke at the the House-Senate GOP fundraising dinner in Washington. McDonnell appeared at Palin's table to ask for assistance and she agreed, Stapleton said. McDonnell also spoke to Stapleton, handing her his business card and again asking for assistance, she said. She reiterated her promises to help McDonnell and asked his campaign to contact her, she said.

In August, Palin's staff was notified by a Northern Virginia Republican operative that McDonnell no longer wanted help, Stapleton said.


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(She was being a pest at that point and couldn't take a hint)

Palin: McDonnell Personally Asked for Help

(As you can see, it you read, Failin is lying about that. SHE was pestering HIM.)

SO, to answer your latest fetish question, NO, I didn't pull that out of my ass, but I'm sure you would like to insert something, along with your vibrating objects, Thumbass.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 05:30 PM

54Harpo_TheWatchman on November 4, 2009 at 05:23 PM

Oh and i forgot to mention, we got a lot of black folks down here in the south. You need to get out more.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 05:34 PM

Harpo_TheWatchman on November 4, 2009 at 05:23 PM

While I do not speak for whom you directed the question at, the answer is simple. We have a soft spot for African-Americans because of the way people like you have treated them here on this continent over the last four centuries. You should be ashamed but your flagrant racism prevents such.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 05:37 PM

along with your vibrating objects, Thumbass.

57Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 05:30 PM

Doo-Bee, i think he uses rough corn cobs.

He wipes on them too he's to cheap to buy toilet paper.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 05:37 PM

The truth may and will hurt the Republican Party.

Democrats are still going to pass a health care reform bill and the people whose lives it saves, whose worries about losing a job and coverage are aleievated, who can finally get coverage with pre-existing conditions, those who see a slow down the rising costs, and those who will finally get a choice...will be Democrats for life.

And the stimulus will be kicking in big time next year with maybe even another round of infrastructure projects, tax cuts for the middle class, and relief for those trying to pay for advanced training/higher education.

Let's keep things in perspective. All politics is local. These were local elections. But there are still some Far Right conservatives who are going to screw around and hurt the Republican Party trying to prove this wrong. They are our secret weapon going into 2010...and we know they will not let us down.

Democrats must stand for something besides the status quo. When we get this one problem addressed, voters will want to see what else we can solve that the Republicans broke.

Good night, everyone. Catch you later.

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SandyH on November 4, 2009 at 05:41 PM

and will you be helping White folks as well or are they off the table?

59Harpo_TheWatchman on November 4, 2009 at 05:36 PM

Well since i've been white, for 65 years, you guess.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 05:41 PM

Harpie here is some wisdom for you, if the young vote in force, you all don't have a chance, i don't care what there nationality is. You all are a dying breed, and don't know it.

Within the next decade you all are going by the way of Sabre Tooth Tigers, and drive in theaters.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 05:47 PM

Dems, i think i know why Pugs, like war so much. They want to kill off the young. They know thats the only way that they got a chance in hell to stay in power.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 05:51 PM

Pugs, pro life my ass, what a forrest.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 05:53 PM

No, asshole, it doesn't frost a damn thing. EVERYBODY in the country knows Sorry Failin was given the heave-ho (as in "heave that Ho overboard before she screws up another race").

Everybody except the Sorry Failin fanboys who are enamored by her wink. Like YOU and Stupid Stevie. You asswipes refuse to see anything you don't want to. You are blind to your idol's failings.

She stinks on ice, and y'all know it, but you have nothing else to cling to.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 05:55 PM

Pugs, really stand for NO LIFE.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 05:56 PM

Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 05:55 PM

Sure they do, Doo-Bee. The bitter ones cling to religion and weapons as the POTUS stated when he was a candidate.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 06:01 PM

Dems, it time for every Dem, in the united states, to put pressure on that mealy mouthed Reid, and get this Health Care Passed, what a pussy he is. And it time for Obama to step up and be a man, and quit trying to appease the almost distinct party of NO.

Its time for HARD BALL DEMS> Put the pressure on the leaders, and make them do what we elected them to do, before its to late.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 06:01 PM

Harpo_TheWatchman on November 4, 2009 at 05:59 PM

So big business is OK with you Republicans only when you Republicans are profiting from such? Now we know that you Republicans think we Democrats are all on welfare and food stamps but that is not the case. We are capitalists. And if we can make a buck out of making the planet's biosphere more viable instead of less, as people like you and Sen. Inhofe (R-OK) want to, then so be it. And if proper investment in former VP Gore's organization is made, heating bills will actually go down because the technology will allow for cheaper energy prices. Furthermore, we won't have to send $700 billion+ to third world countries, dictatorial regimes, and monarchies in the form of buying oil from these people who want nothing more than to destroy us after they get finished bleeding the money supply dry. But you go right ahead and keep trying to scare the old and\or stupid with that nonsense. In the mean time, we're going to get rich off of saving the planet instead of getting rich off of destroying the planet, as you propose.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 06:09 PM

chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 06:01 PM

Agreed; otherwise the electorate is going to get pissed for giving us this huge majority and then failing to do anything of significance with it. If major healthcare and Wall St. reforms are not passed in the 111th Congress, 2010 will be another 1994.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 06:12 PM

Personally i hope Al Gore makes a couple of Trillion, off of saving the planet.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 06:17 PM

77Harpo_TheWatchman on November 4, 2009 at 06:32 PM


When you answer the questions, of not giving a human being adequate health care then I'll answer you question.

You should worry as much about the greedy capitalism on wall street, and your buddy MURDOCK.

Until you can give a sensible answer, then don't ask me any questions, you got that.

BTW i noticed you haven't put your hand on the bible yet, that Mrs. Pam ask you to do.

I don't have to answer questions from asshat liars.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 06:43 PM

Geez, a couple of days ago, Harpie was ok, with big oil going over the roof, and passing on the costs, to everybody, now he's worried that a Dem. is going to make a couple of bucks. Go Figure.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 06:47 PM

good night dems, i done put in my mini shift, its all your turn.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 06:59 PM

Harpo_TheWatchman on November 4, 2009 at 06:37 PM

If it were the grand scheme you are trying to make it out to be, I would agree with you. However, investing in companies and organizations that are inherently designed to ween us off of foreign oil has to be considered a positive.

So even if we ignore the science, as you would have, getting us off of foreign oil should be an objective we could both agree on. We can do such with solar, renewable fuels such as switchgrass and sugar beets, hydrogen, and a host of other possibilities. Cap and trade policies taxing the polluters is a way to pay for such research.

My God, man, if we can build a nuclear bomb from scratch in lass than four years and put a man on the moon inside of a decade certainly the U.S. Government can fund the research necessary to get us off of foreign energy supplies and, in the mean time, the people who live in major metropolitan areas can finally take a deep breath without it being smog filled. We owe energy independence to our fellow Americans. Everyone else can pay for the technology or watch their citizenry keel over from a host of illnesses associated with pollution.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 07:00 PM

Moron, the fascination with Sorry Failin is like the "water cooler talk" about the last weekend's SNL, or some other oddity. (The oddity with SNL is that it had a joke for the first time in at least 20 years, the oddity with Sorry Failin is her total lack of humility, and her constant need for attention, even when she is told to GET LOST YOU PEST!)

SHE is the car crash that everybody looks at and feels bad for the victims afterward, but you can't stop talking about it.

She is the latest stupid Holiday stunt joke like that dude who tied a bunch of weather balloons to a lawn chair and floated away, or "Spider Dan" who knew it was a slow news weekend, so he scaled Sears Tower.

She is "Balloon Boy".

She is INFO-TAINMENT.

The ONLY job she ever wanted after coming in third for Miss Alaska, and second for Miss Congeniality (which she lied about too, BTW) was to be on TV; whether as a sportscaster, a weather bunny, the next Sham-Wow screamer, or a soap opera vixen, she didn't care.

She's a JOKE! Don't you get it?

And YOU are the punchline.

Sorry Failin: "I may be broke but I'm not flat busted!".

Well, she may or may not still be "broke" but she's still whoring herself and her family out to the lowest bidder.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 07:11 PM
Dejection fills ballroom after gay marriage vote

By JOHN CURRAN, Associated Press Writer John Curran, Associated Press Writer Wed Nov 4, 2:21 pm ET

PORTLAND, Maine (AP)– Cecelia Burnett and Ann Swanson had already set their wedding date. When they joined about 1,000 other gay marriage supporters for an election night party in a Holiday Inn ballroom, they hoped to celebrate the vote that would make it possible.

Instead, they went home at midnight, dejected and near tears after a failed bid to make Maine the first state to approve same-sex marriage at the ballot box.

"I'm ready to start crying," said Burnett, a 58-year-old massage therapist, walking out of the ballroom early Wednesday with Swanson at her side. "I don't understand what the fear is, why people are so afraid of this change.

"It hurts. It hurts personally," she said. "It's a personal rejection of us and our relationship, and I don't understand what the fear is."

With 98 percent of precincts reporting, gay-marriage foes had 53 percent of the vote in a referendum that asked Maine voters whether they wanted to repeal a law allowing same-sex marriage that had passed the Legislature and was signed by Democratic Gov. John Baldacci...


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gay_marriage_maine


As in CA last year, the voters have spoken and should be respected. And while this defeat of gay marriage rights is certainly nothing more than a kneejerk fear reaction or worse, purely prejudicial, it is what it is. Those in the LGBT community should take heart, though. Once again, the younger generations voted overwhelmingly in favor of granting gay marriage proponents their due civil rights. Once enough of the baby boomers meet their inevitable demise, gay marriage will become the law of the land. One can not stop the tide of history.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 07:14 PM

Sorry Bob. Since when can Civil Rights be put up to a popularity contest?

And how does this get reconciled with the 14th Amendment?

Last year the VOTERS said the Pugs should go to Hell.

Good idea. Let's kill them all.

After all, there was a vote.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 07:23 PM

One for the road send Harry Reid a message, to get this health care passed.

http://reid.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 07:35 PM

Evening all good Dems,

I couldn't believe that ahole hannity today. he is praising bachman for setting up a tea bag party in the capitol building to protest Obama's health care plan. hannity said he was going to be there too.

If these people enter the capitol building and don't act like human beings - which is highly unlikely - they should all be arrested and jailed.

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johhne on November 4, 2009 at 07:38 PM

Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 07:23 PM

Well, this is one topic we're going to have to agree to disagree on. The Constitution is quite clear. So is the ME Constitution. The 14th Amendment is a viable challenge for those willing to go forth with a legal claim however, checks and balances come into play as well. The courts interpret the Constitution but, the voters can write, or rewrite such.

Furthermore, the voters can write or repeal any aspect of a state or the Federal Constitution. In theory, a Constitutional Amendment could be passed that nullifies the Fourth Amendment, for example. As long as the proper procedure was followed, our rights to be protected from unreasonable search and seizure could be taken away in the manner which I cite.

This is, unfortunately, what happend in ME last night and CA last year. The most important part of our government have spoken, the voters. And their directive must be followed otherwise, both the ME and Federal Constitutions aren't worth the paper they're written on.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 07:40 PM

Next to Palin, Bachman is the next big Female GOP joke!!! Even her staff thinks she is crazy as a loon!!!

"The aide who helped turn Rep. Michele Bachmann into a controversial mainstay of cable news has informed colleagues that she’s quitting — just as the firebrand Republican congresswoman prepares for her biggest media moment yet.


Multiple sources have confirmed that Michelle Marston, a veteran Hill aide, is leaving Bachmann’s office.



The image of travel-ready conservatives flooding the hallways of the Capitol complex to confront members of Congress may not be one that Republican leaders are too keen to project.


A conservative Republican House member, speaking on the condition of anonymity, suggested that Bachmann’s views — and her willingness to state them — make it hard for her to keep staff.


“When your captain’s crazy, it’s time to find a new ship,” the lawmaker said.


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29141.html

And the day I am jealous of low class, dumber than dirt, joke of Palin, is a cold day in hell.
Like DooBee says, She is A JOKE! A joke of a woman thinking in her own mind, that she is anything more than stupid, uneducated, uninformed, loud mouth, who honestly thought she could be a VP of the USA! Did you hear that Putin said the other day "I can see Sarah Palin's house from my kitchen window"? ahahahahahahaha

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 07:41 PM

Send Reid a message, and tell him to quit fucking being a mealy mouthed pussy.

http://reid.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 07:42 PM

Send Reid a message, and tell him to quit fucking being a mealy mouthed pussy.

http://reid.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 07:45 PM

We won, you lost - get over it!


NOW TELL THE TRUTH, STEVIEBOY, WOULDN'T YOU HAVE MUCH BETTER HAVE WON THE NY RACE---PROVING THAT YOUR DISTORTED LAST 20% WHO CALL THEMSELVES RIGHT WINGERS ARE STILL ALIVE? Those 2 Governors who won VA and NJ are MODERATES! Betcha they believe in abortion and gays rights. So you won shit !

Sarah is coming to the Mall of America this month!


lock up the good china !

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 07:46 PM

Dems, flood Reid's e-mail, and tell him to grow a pair, and quit being a mealy mouthed jerkoff. And get something done before its to late.

Send Reid a message, and tell him to quit fucking being a mealy mouthed pussy.

http://reid.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 07:49 PM

**Frosty** on November 4, 2009 at 07:40 PM

You actually raise a valid point here, Frosty. Perhaps one of my Democratic colleagues could find the discrepancy because I was under that impression as well.

As far as Speaker Pelosi ramming healthcare reform through the House next week, more power to her. Sen. Reid (D-NV) needs to do the same and with a public option.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 07:52 PM

... In theory, a Constitutional Amendment could be passed that nullifies the Fourth Amendment, for example.. .

Chimpy did that with a signing statement.

And the voters CAN NOT nullify the US Constitution by a majority vote in a single State.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 07:55 PM

This is for ole Dufus when he gets off his part time job. He always professes such a great concern for Vets, although he doesn't give a shit about the 4300 who died for a Lie.
HERE is what your Republican buddies are doing now to them, Dufus.

Tom Coburn Put Anonymous Hold On Major Veterans Bill


The Marine Corps Times:

Thirteen major military and veterans groups have joined forces to try to force one senator -- Republican Tom Coburn of Oklahoma -- to release a hold that he has placed on a major veterans benefits bill.

Coburn has been identified by Senate aides as the lawmaker preventing consideration of S 1963, the Veterans' Caregiver and Omnibus Health Benefits Act of 2009, by using an informal but legal practice of putting a hold on a bill.

Read the whole story: The Marine Corps Times


http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2009/11/military_veteransbill_coburnhold_110309w/


NOTE THE SOURCE, IN CASE YOU DOUBT A FINE REPUBLICAN ASSHOLE WOULD DO SUCH A THING


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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 07:56 PM

As always, the wing-nuts don't like to be confused by the facts, so they keep on screaming at the rest of us to keep cutting off our noses to spite our faces. Judging by some of yesterday's election results, the screaming works. This country is beginning to resemble the movie "Groundhog Day," where the same thing keeps happening over and over again.

God help our children and grandchildren.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 07:56 PM

PamB on November 4, 2009 at 07:46 PM

As much as I hate to admit it, Governor-elect McDonnell is no moderate. He is a closet conservative exactly like George W. Bush. He ran the exact same type of campaign as W did in 2000. He ran in the middle and he is going to govern from the far right. Bob McDonnell is the guy who said something akin to women in the workforce are causing an erosion of American values and that women should stay home and take care of the house and children exclusively. The VA voters failed to pick up on that and it will be our Commonwealth's undoing.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 07:58 PM

Ned lamont going to run for Governor of our State against the Republican broad.

Looking forward to working for him again.


He is a wealthy man, who cares more about the people than the wealthy and the corporations.

He will not be praying for Wars, so that the State's Defense industry thrives and makes billions.

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 07:58 PM

Here are some FACTS about the Election Results, for any who are interested in the Truth:


First of all, the Democratic candidate in New Jersey, Jon Corzine, was an unbelievably unpopular incumbent who ran a tragically poor campaign. Corzine's unpopularity vastly predates Obama's impact on the electorate, and was the entire reason he lost. As for Virginia, well, that state has been a tough get for any Democrat for a couple of generations now; Obama's success there in the 2008 presidential election was the exception and not the rule for Democrats historically, and speaking of history, the party that wins the White House has gone on to lose the Virginia governor's office one year later every time since the Carter administration, so we're not into any kind of mold-breaking situation there.

Second of all, these were two statewide elections where Obama was not on the ballot, and there is no national significance whatsoever behind two states out of fifty voting for Republicans. Furthermore, Democrats cleaned up in local elections all across the country, especially in mayoral races, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of breathless reporting on this facet of yesterday's vote coming from the news folks.

Speaking of the national picture for the GOP,it is difficult to make a cogent argument that two statewide gubernatorial wins are enough to alter the country's opinion of the party, especially since the country's opinion of Republicans remains monumentally bleak. Just two weeks ago, a Washington Post/ABC News poll reported:

Less than one in five voters (19 percent) expressed confidence in Republicans' ability to make the right decisions for America's future while a whopping 79 percent lacked that confidence.

Among independent voters, who went heavily for Obama in 2008 and congressional Democrats in 2006, the numbers for Republicans on the confidence questions were even more worse. Just 17 percent of independents expressed confidence in Republicans' ability to make the right decision while 83 percent said they did not have that confidence.

On the generic ballot question, 51 percent of the sample said they would cast a vote for a Democratic candidate in their congressional district next fall while just 39 percent said they would opt for a GOP candidate.

And, perhaps most troubling for GOP hopes is the fact that just 20 percent of the Post sample identified themselves as Republicans, the lowest that number has been in Post polling since 1983. (No, that is not a typo.)
http://messenger.truthout.org/ss/link.php?M=181559&N=346&C=e5cedf15aa0be2c656f9aa698a4a3404&L=3152

Sorry, Repugs. Not a big deal yesterday. 2010 still bodes poorly for the GOP. Those who are smart, will be getting out. I think we already have like 4 GOP Senators not running again! Can't wait!!!!!

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 08:06 PM

Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 07:55 PM

You're correct, they can't nullify the U.S. Constitution with a simple majority vote. Thirty-eight states (3/4) would have to vote to throw out the Fourth, or any other, Federal Amendment. But this was a matter of the ME Constitution. And the ME Constitution gave a vehicle to its voters to repeal a law passed by its legislature.

And those signing statements you refer to have been knocked down every time by a Federal Court when challenged, if memory serves. But there is a legal process for everything, my friend. And the voters of ME exercised their rights in due process according to the terms of ME Constitution and that, above all else, has to be respected even when we disagree with it.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 08:07 PM

Sure is funny to see Sally, in her dress dissing all over weight women. But a over weight fat assed man from NJ. is ok. Go Figure.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 08:07 PM

Sarah is coming to the Mall of America this month!

She's going to the biggest teen age loser joint in the Western Hemisphere?

A pseudo domed Disneyland inside a MALL?

Now tell me that the door count that day is ALL because she is there buying a new pair of Funky Monkey Hooker Boots.

Nothing to do with the indoor amusement park called "Camp Snoopy" (hey, wasn't that the name of Larry Craig's man's room?)?

Why the Hell is she trolling schlock Malls when she should be home taking care of her "Special Needs Prop"?

Is there something important taking place in Bloomington that needs her shrill shrieking?

Really, WHY is she going there other than to promote herself to her masturbatory minions so she can bask in the glow of a bunch of bored parents waiting for their kids to get off the rides and throw up in the car later?

What an attention craving media whore she is!

As pathetic as YOU. And just as self-unaware.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 08:13 PM

DEMOCRATS-----IT IS NOT TOO EARLY TO START UNITING AND WORKING LOCALLY WITH YOUR STATE AND TOWN TO EITHER BACK AN INCUMBENT DEMOCRATIC SENATOR, OR TO GET RID OF A RED ONE!

LOOK OVER THE LIST AND SEE IF YOUR'S IS ONE COMING UP NEXT YEAR.


http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm?Class=3


If there is a tough race in the state next to your's, maybe get together with other Dems in your state to bus in and phone bank, go door to door, do what needs to be done.

We did it last year, Dems, and we can do it again!

Let's move that Senate majority up, so we can kick Lieberman's ass out of our caucus ! The dirty POS. Now he and Graham are trying to ruin the Climate bill !

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 08:13 PM

Harpo_TheWatchman on November 4, 2009 at 08:04 PM

Attempting to foment an insurrection again, Harpo? It won't happen. Because just like with Pam and everyone else here, Doo-Bee and I will have our debate and carry on still respecting the views of the other even when we disagree.

That's why we're here with our fellow Democrats. We make each other smarter. We sharpen our debate skills. We make each other more able to expatitate our views both here and in the real world.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 08:17 PM

Fallin, said that they did not lose in NY. 23 last night that it just was put off until next year. That stupid bitch is insanely insane. She needs to call the Witch Doctor back and give her some guidance. Any Mother that would call her down syndrome baby her retarded child is possessed.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 08:19 PM

ahahahahahahaah.....Thomasss Thomasssss, if that is all you have----you won, when you took a measly 2 Gov races, well you just enjoy your itty bitty teeny weeny self!!!!


It must have irked the shit out of you, too to watch that NY race go from a Conservative with bug eyes, to a Democrat for the first time! How did that grab ya, loser?


just a little repost, to remind you it meant nada! READ THE NUMBERS AND WEEP !


Less than one in five voters (19 percent) expressed confidence in Republicans' ability to make the right decisions for America's future while a whopping 79 percent lacked that confidence.

Among independent voters, who went heavily for Obama in 2008 and congressional Democrats in 2006, the numbers for Republicans on the confidence questions were even more worse. Just 17 percent of independents expressed confidence in Republicans' ability to make the right decision while 83 percent said they did not have that confidence.

On the generic ballot question, 51 percent of the sample said they would cast a vote for a Democratic candidate in their congressional district next fall while just 39 percent said they would opt for a GOP candidate.

And, perhaps most troubling for GOP hopes is the fact that just 20 percent of the Post sample identified themselves as Republicans, the lowest that number has been in Post polling since 1983. (No, that is not a typo.)


Now you can argue all you want----but you can't change FACTS. Suck it up, Loser, you are in for a lot more pain! Maybe when you find another job, you won't have all this time on your hands to worry about the Democrats taking good care of you! they just voted in an extension of your Unemployment benefits today. You're welcome !!!

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 08:20 PM

Ned's a sharp fella alright.

113Harpo_TheWatchman on November 4, 2009 at 08:17 PM

One thing is for sure your not sharp, your as dull as the blunt end of a log.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 08:21 PM

Harpo_TheWatchman on November 4, 2009 at 08:12 PM

While you're correct to point out the GOP wins in VA and NJ, if that is all you have to show then y'all didn't do as well as you thought you did. You lost NY23, CA10, the mayor's races in ATL and NYC as well as other races. With that logic, Harpo, y'all are going to start calling Sen. McCain (R-AZ) by the name of President McCain because he won twenty-two states. We'll see you in 2010 and, we're looking forward to it.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 08:24 PM

Chassie, when only the Republicans pray for war, and buy stocks in Defense industry to make money, well that tells you something about that person. If ole thomass had a buck, he would be heavily invested in our State's planes, guns, subs, helicopter industries. But ole thomass will be using up his 401K before too long. TORO threw his ass out. And Thomass does not dare go get the Bible, put his hand on it, swear on his Mother's soul, that he did NOT work for TORO, so what does that tell you??? THOMAASSS IS A YELLOW BELLY LIAR !


Night good Dems.......

will blog ya tomorrow.

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PamB on November 4, 2009 at 08:25 PM

And, Democrat Michael R. McNulty represented NY-23 from 1989-1993.

Which was redrawn and renumbered several times before and after those dates.

But it is easier to lie or neglect to look up easily found info than to do any actual work, as YOU and Andy Breitbart are wont to do.

...that the district has only been around in its present "single-district" form since the 1940's (since that time it has always included Jefferson, St. Lawrence and Franklin Counties, as well as Lewis Co. - except for 1971-73, and Oswego Co. - except for 1945-53 and 1983-93; Clinton Co. and most of Essex have also been part of the district since 1969 and 1971, respectively. The other, more peripheral counties have been part of this district only briefly over the last 60 or so years). Between 1883 and 1943, there were basically two districts here - a "western" one, encompassing Jefferson, Oswego, Lewis and Madison, and an "eastern" one, encompassing St. Lawrence, Franklin, Clinton and Essex, although during one period of time redistricting created three districts centered in what is now NY-23. Prior to 1883, what is now NY-23 was part of four or more different districts.

Since the 1856 election (when the Republican party entered the political arena) the territory in what is now NY-23 has almost exclusively been represented by the GOP. In fact, the last Democrat elected to represent St. Lawrence Co. in Congress was a man named Francis Spinner, elected in 1854. He ran successfully for re-election as a Republican in 1856, and was later appointed as Treasurer of the United States by Abraham Lincoln. The last Democrat to represent Jefferson Co. was even earlier - Willard Ives elected in 1850. The most amazing fact I found was re. Franklin Co. The last Democrat elected to represent that county was Joseph Russell, also in 1850. In 1852, the district that then included Franklin elected George Simmons, a member of the Whig party. Therefore, Franklin Co. has been more recently represented in Congress by a WHIG (1854) than by a Democrat (1852) !

Amazing Political History of NY-23 (with historical boundry map)

AND

New York's 23rd congressional district (With historical boundry map)

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 08:28 PM

Can anyone translate that? Can anyone speak DoPey talk?

117**Frosty** on November 4, 2009 at 08:21 PM


I can, i thought your was a genius, guess not!

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 08:31 PM

Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 08:28 PM

Thanks for clarifying that, Doo-Bee. As always, well done on your research.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 08:34 PM

Good night fellow Americans. Keep the Faith and keep the faith. Yes we can, yes we will, and yes we did!

...The torch [was] passed again to a new generation of Americans. So with Barack Obama and for you and for me, our country will be committed to his cause. The work begins anew. The hope rises again. And the dream lives on.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 08:36 PM

120PamB on November 4, 2009 at 08:25 PM

I hear you Pam, its a trait with pugs, being liar's, then in the next breath they claim to be God Fearing people. GOD HELP THEM.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 08:37 PM

chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 08:19 PM

The fringe right couldn't pull off a victory in NY23 even though it's about as red a district as you can get. We have nothing to worry about from Ms. Palin and her merry band of idiots. All we have to do is to keep reminding everyone how much of an idiot she really is and the best part about that is, she'll do everything she can to help us with that.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 08:40 PM

No, O Duke of the Dildos. What I was doing was pointing out the fallacy of Bob's "they took a vote" defense for putting Civil Rights up to a popularity contest, and ignoring the UnConstitutionality of it all. His point was that a single State could ignore the US Constitution by dint of a single vote.

My point is that if it is OK to make certain groups into second class citizens without the same Rights as the Majority by way of a popularity contest financed by a bunch of tax exempt Cultists from Vatican City and Salt Lake City, then last year the voters told the Pugs to shove off.

I defended the Pugs, you fucking idiot! But of course you have to insert yourself into everything without even grasping the concept.

On second thought, YOU and the rest of the trolls should be exiled to the Isle of Lost Brains.

Then we can use it for nuke tests.

After all, there was a vote!

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 08:41 PM

**Frosty** on November 4, 2009 at 08:40 PM

And the Republican candidate got how much of the vote in NYC? Mayor Bloomberg spent upwards of $100 million to maintain his seat and did so by less than 5%. And yes, ATL is headed to a runoff. How the Republican candidate doing in that race, Frosty? Again, better luck in 2010. Y'all will need it as long as you're beholden to the likes of Ms. Palin, Rush Limbaugh, and Glenn "where did I put my tinfoil hat" Beck.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 08:45 PM

BlueDogCactus on November 4, 2009 at 08:43 PM

And exactly how does Sen. Coburn (R-OK) propose we pay for these much needed veteran benefits since he is opposed to raising taxes? What shall we cut from the budget to pay for this bill? When Sen. Coburn has the answer to that, get back with us. Until then, we're going to keep calling him out on this.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 08:52 PM

Must be getting cold, in Bumb-Fuck, Mn., Sally has done changed her name from Cleveland, to Frosty, that's her winter time name. She really needs to move to International Falls, Mn. where it really gets cold. She could then put on her Polar Bear suit. Oh wait i forgot, they are going extinct, do to Global Warming.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 08:52 PM

Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 08:13 PM

Can anyone translate that? Can anyone speak DoPeyDumbshit talk?
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**Frosty** on November 4, 2009 at 08:21 PM

Can anyone explain to fuckwad Stevie that there is NO NEED for that attention whore to even BE there, rather than staying at home looking for a job and taking care of her family?

She's an unemployed twitter and facebook freak, like the jilted high schooler she has always been.

Except for staying in her room at home and popping her zits she is staying in fancy hotels like a kept woman and having the Armey of Dick pop them for her. (Right Little Stevie?).

Only this time she is having her teenage angst breakdown on whatever TV outlet that thinks she is "news", which is all she has EVER wanted.

Maybe she can be on Survivor next season. She would probably win by default because all the other contestants would willingly throw themselves into a volcano just to avoid ever hearing her grating whiny voice again.

Blinders, fanboy. Blinders.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 08:55 PM

Chassie,

I can't stand to look at that jerk the people of NJ elected. He was part of the chimp administration. He was a US attorney in the most corrupt department of justice in world history. Even Adolf's justice department looked better.

He is a fat slob just like limpballs. I can't stand his arrogant puss. Pardon me while I puke.

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johhne on November 4, 2009 at 08:56 PM

BlueDogCactus on November 4, 2009 at 08:50 PM

Uh Dan, close does not win otherwise President Kerry would be in his second term or President Gore would be a year into his retirement. Furthermore, a Democrat winning the current configuration of NY23 is the equivalent of President Obama winning MS or UT in 2012 even if he does it only by 4% as Rep.-elect Owens (D-NY) last night.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 08:58 PM

OK, one more time.

Good night fellow Americans. Keep the Faith and keep the faith. Yes we can, yes we will, and yes we did!

...For all those whose cares have been our concern; the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die.

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BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 09:02 PM

Hey Harpie, YOUR YOUR YOUR YOUR YOUR YOUR YOUR YOUR a lying PUNK.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 09:03 PM

Chassie,

harpy is a hemorrhoid in disquise. It even uses preparation H on its blackheads. Chicago is right on.

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johhne on November 4, 2009 at 09:08 PM

At some point the "Rich" are going to run out.

144BlueDogCactus on November 4, 2009 at 09:02 PM

That's b/s Catass they never have in the history of this country and they use to pay over 70 percent in taxes. Your full of shit as always.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 09:09 PM

One thing for sure, when Thumbass can't back up his Bullshit he starts picking out typos in other people's posts.

Stevie and his sock puppets usually resort to calling everyone "fags" at this point, but Thumbass has to put up a front of intellectual superiority.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 09:11 PM

Just exactly what part of this is that you don't understand Dufus? You are a simple fucking idiot.


NEW YORK, June 26 -- Warren E. Buffett was his usual folksy self Tuesday night at a fundraiser for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) as he slammed a system that allows the very rich to pay taxes at a lower rate than the middle class.

Buffett cited himself, the third-richest person in the world, as an example. Last year, Buffett said, he was taxed at 17.7 percent on his taxable income of more than $46 million. His receptionist was taxed at about 30 percent

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 09:14 PM

No one one as mayor of Atlanta ...

Watch out, Little Stevie. Thumbass has his school Ma'arm dress on again.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 09:15 PM

150Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 09:11 PM

Exactly!

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 09:17 PM

It doesn't do any good to pass a bill with no funding to pay for it , you know, like that phoney 100,000 cops bill that Clinton pushed through.

Like Chimpy's TWO Wars of choice that he quickly grew tired of and left on the floor for someone else to clean up; like the toddler he is.

So, by your stupid 3rd grade "logic", Chimpy can send people off to be maimed and damaged for the rest of their lives in 2 wars that HE started for fun and profit, and the US doesn't have ANY obligation to help them when they get back?

Real Christian of you, you asshole.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 09:22 PM

"NewsBusters" interpreting and embellishing an OPEd in the NWT IS NOT "news" asshole.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 09:27 PM

Nope, O Earl of the Anal Oil. I have never been to Camp Snoopy or its Mall. I hate malls. I do my shopping at Ma and Pa shops in small towns. Been doin' it since the early 1970s.

I HAVE been to Baseball games at Metropolitan Stadium, where Camp Stupid now ruins the landscape and decimates the small town shops.

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 09:34 PM

Harpie just exactly what is it with your FETISH about poop, and every time that john makes a post you call him piss pants? One of these days one of your elders is going to smack Your Punk ass to the Dirt with your smart foolish mouth, and make no mistake about it YOUR A FUCKING PUNK and i will tell you that to your face if you got the guts, and then this elder will smack your ass to the dirt and shit on your face.

Your Daddy should be horse whipped for not teaching you any better. Your daddy taught you to be a Punk. Damn that Bastard!!

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 09:37 PM

Chassie, he had to be kept out of Kindergarten because he was still in diapers until he was 6. He has ALWAYS had a poop fetish.

Right Tubby Tommy?

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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 09:44 PM

Good evening Johnny, i didn't mean to ignore you just got caught up with stupidity, maybe i'm stupid. However i don't think so, i know that i'm not the brightest bulb around and don't claim to be like Densa Sally, and Harpie.

Remember what Clint said, a man has to know his Capabilities, and I know mine. If i don't at my age then i got left at the Dock.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 09:46 PM

160Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 4, 2009 at 09:44 PM

Doo-Bee, me thinks that your giving him to much credit, I think that he is still bed wetting like the punk that he is. All punk's piss in there own bed.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 09:51 PM

No I ask you... who has the poop fetish?


163Harpo_TheWatchman on November 4, 2009 at 09:57 PM


It sure is not me, i just told you what you can expect from me. You put poop, and piss, in every post you make, regarding Johnny, what did he do to you? Every post you make to Doo-Bee you call him a fag, why is that? Every post you make about Gregg, you call him a fag, why is that? Have you had personal experience with these people? Of course you haven't, like i said your a PUNK>

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 10:25 PM

Rupert Murdock says, your poor bastards, stop getting health care, i don't have too.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 10:37 PM

Good Night Dems, you all can rest assured what ever happens, next year the rich assholes taxes is going up, starting on, 01/01/2011.

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chassie321 on November 4, 2009 at 11:12 PM

Update: Bush, Clinton cancel joint event

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

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YoungPoet on November 5, 2009 at 05:52 AM

sally is back as frosty. her clever of her. perhaps a walk down memory lane is called for...

"Do you really think that who Obama chooses as a running mate is going to have any bearing on the election? Obama is going to lose in the biggest landslide ever. How is that not obvious to you all?
Posted by Sally-* on August 22, 2008 at 03:05 AM"

"The Republicans will hold a 4 seat advantage in both the House and the Senate.
That prediction may change again but one thing is certain - it will not be a blowout year for either side.
Posted by FrostyPumpkins on November 2, 2006 at 03:21 AM"

and of course the other night she explained that if sarah of saks had made a visit to ny 23 hoffman would have won!! so very silly....

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gregg on November 5, 2009 at 07:42 AM


The fringe right couldn't pull off a victory in NY23 even though it's about as red a district as you can get. We have nothing to worry about from Ms. Palin and her merry band of idiots. All we have to do is to keep reminding everyone how much of an idiot she really is and the best part about that is, she'll do everything she can to help us with that.

>i>128BobVADemocratHawk on November 4, 2009 at 08:40 PM

This is what my plan is, Bob. I shall find and post every single piece of crazy actions of this bimbo, including letters to editors. There is no way in God's earth, that this creepy dame will ever get anywhere near our White House !

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PamB on November 5, 2009 at 07:48 AM

Coburn spokesman John Hart said the senator has questions about the new benefit, wondering why, if it is such a good thing for families, it is limited to helping only those of Iraq and Afghanistan combat veterans. But the main objection is cost.
“We are at a point in our history when we have to start paying for things,” Hart said.

130BlueDogCactus on November 4, 2009 at 08:43 PM

That's bullshit and you know it Dufus! If you really were so fired up for Veterans, you would be appalled. You never bitched about the money Bush put on Credit Cards and hocked our kids futures on! Now all of a sudden you think Coburn , an Obstructionist Republican, wants to hold up a Veteran's bill till we get the money to pay for it? Well, how about YOU go over to the Veterans Hospital and VFW, etc, and tell them you agree that they should not have these benefits until Obama finally straightens out this mess that Bush made !!!! Don't let me hear you talk about the poor Veterans ever again, you two faced pos !

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PamB on November 5, 2009 at 08:02 AM

Oh Boy, Stevie's daughter will not only get a copy of Sarah Palin's lying book for Christmas, it will be a SIGNED copy which Stevieboy shall go and get himself at the Mall ! won't she be so delighted on Christmas morning? And of course, Stevie, studdering and stammering and peeing himself while he stands in front of the bimbo, trying to get in somehow that he got a DENSA certificate, to impress her !!!!! Don't wear those dirty ole overalls, Stevie !

sheesh, she is first traveling to her ghost writer to write the book for her, now is going around trying to sell it. She sure doesn't care too much about her kids, especially the special needs one, does she? Wonder how long before Bristol is pregnant again?

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PamB on November 5, 2009 at 08:14 AM

Oh, L@@KY, the Repugs finally came up with a health care plan! the CBO says it is JUNK!


Budget Monitor Says G.O.P. Bill Leaves Many Uninsured


By David M. Herszenhorn
The Congressional Budget Office said on Wednesday that an alternative health care bill put forward by House Republicans would have little impact in extending health benefits to the roughly 30 million uninsured Americans, but would reduce average insurance premium costs for people who have coverage.

The Republican bill, which has no chance of passage, would extend insurance coverage to about 3 million people by 2019, and would leave about 52 million people uninsured, the budget office said, meaning the proportion of non-elderly Americans with coverage would remain about the same as now, at roughly 83 percent.

The budget office has said that the Democrats’ health care proposal would extend coverage to 36 million people, meaning that 96 percent of legal residents would have health benefits. The Democrats’ bill would cost $1.1 trillion, with the costs more than covered by revenues from new taxes or cuts in government spending, particularly on Medicare.

House Republicans, including their leader, Representative John A. Boehner of Ohio, have said that they did not intend for their legislation to expand insurance coverage, because they viewed that goal as unaffordable. Instead, they said the bill was tailored narrowly to reduce costs.

According to the report by nonpartisan budget office, the Republican bill would reduce future federal deficits by $68 billion over 10 years, compared to a reduction of $104 billion by the House Democrats’ legislation.

http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/budget-monitor-questions-impact-of-gop-health-bill/

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PamB on November 5, 2009 at 08:19 AM

Looks like the US is not the only one who thinks Murdoch should just stay in Australia, and Mind his own business about other country's politics. Murdoch thrives on his self-imagined power. Well, Murdoch, Intelligent people recognize the distortions and slants you present in your second class media sources:


Gordon Brown: Murdoch's Sun Trying To "Become A Political Party"

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/04/gordon-brown-murdochs-sun_n_345050.html&cp

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PamB on November 5, 2009 at 08:29 AM

I am a Democrat that is looking at President Obama from the distance that grows daily, while his inner circle of Progressives grows smaller. The Democratic Party is not one man and one image, but a team, where everyone has a say and is heard.

Like Mr. Bush, the White House is becoming an island that does not allow Liberals, free thinkers, and Independents in. Those are the people that decide elections.

The extreme right will not sway, nor bend in being Cheney stubborn. But the moderates of both parties are being decimated by lack of support in each party loosing its roots.

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YoungPoet on November 5, 2009 at 08:32 AM

anybody watch Olberman's show last night? Lawrence O'Donnell was hosting it, but he had a guy who went over Concession night of McCain and Palin again. How Palin had tears in her eyes on stage, because they told her NO she could not speak. Then they did a skit on how after her campaign aides pulled the lights on her, she took a flashlight out and gave her speech! It was hilarious .

You see, Repugs-----it is not just us here, who are jealous or afraid of Palin. The majority of Americans think she was a terrifying joke! I have run into many a Republican since last November, who changed their vote from Republican for the first time in their lives----BECAUSE of Palin. So if you are really, really smart, you will work on finding a REAL TRUE Republican, who is part of the 21st Century, who does not want to run on FEAR of abortion and gays, who is truly interested in turning this country into the Leader it once was, and putting your efforts into that person ! You saw how it was done last time around for Democrats----well as long as you sit here and just bitch and moan, we will continue to win over and over and over.
Thanks for your past non participation, and thank you for your future whinning tit baby non efforts!

back later, Dems.

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PamB on November 5, 2009 at 08:46 AM

Productivity Jumps Higher as Job Losses Show Drop
Published: Thursday, 5 Nov 2009 | 8:38 AM ET

Size By: Reuters

U.S. non-farm productivity in the third quarter rose at its fastest pace in six years as companies squeezed more output from a smaller pool of labor and cut costs to deal with a slump in demand, government data showed on Thursday.


AP
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The Labor Department said non-farm productivity surged at a 9.5 percent annual rate, the quickest pace since the third quarter of 2003. Productivity grew at a 6.9 percent pace in the April-June period.

Analysts polled by Reuters had forecast productivity, which measures the hourly output per worker, rising at a 6.4 percent rate in the third quarter.

Productivity in manufacturing rose at a record 13.6 percent rate in the third quarter.

Total non-farm output rebounded, growing at a 4 percent rate in the July-September quarter after dropping 1.1 percent in the previous period.

Productivity has increased sharply over the past two quarters, largely driven by aggressive cost cutting by businesses.

Analysts see little room for more cuts and believe that this, coupled with the economy's resumption of growth in the third quarter, may cause companies to start increasing payrolls.

The economy grew at a 3.5 percent annual pace in the July-September period, probably ending the worst U.S. recession since the Great Depression of the 1930s.

Hours worked fell at a 5 percent rate in the third quarter, the Labor Department said. Unit labor costs, a gauge of inflation and profit pressures closely watched by the Federal Reserve, fell 5.2 percent after declining 6.1 percent in the second quarter. Analysts had expected unit labor costs to fall 4 percent in the third quarter. Compensation per hour rose at a 3.8 percent pace and, adjusted for inflation, was up 0.2 percent.

Compared with the July-September quarter of 2008, non-farm productivity rose at a 4.3 percent rate. Unit labor costs fell 3.6 percent year-on-year.

Separately, t

he number of U.S. workers filing new claims for jobless insurance fell more than expected last week to a 10-month low, pointing to a gradual improvement in the labor market.

Initial claims for state unemployment benefits dropped 20,000 to a seasonally adjusted 512,000 in the week ended Oct. 31, the lowest since early January, the Labor Department said.

New jobless claims had bounced around the 520,000-532,000 range over the previous four weeks.

Analysts polled by Reuters had forecast new claims slipping to 523,000 last week from a previously reported 530,000.

While new applications for unemployment insurance have substantially fallen from March's high levels, they remain elevated and analysts say they need to drop below 400,000 to signal that the economy is creating jobs.

The four-week moving average for new claims slipped 3,000 to 523,750 last week, also the lowest in almost 10 months and declining for the ninth week in a row, indicating the labor market continues to edge toward stability.

The four-week moving average is considered a better gauge of underlying trends as it irons out week-to-week volatility.

The Labor Department is expected to report on Friday that the decline in employment is slowing. Analysts have forecast that payrolls fell 175,000 in October, compared with a decline of 263,000 in September.

Some healing of the labor market is crucial to sustaining and strengthening the economy's recovery after its worst recession in 70 years. The economy grew in the third quarter for the first time in more than a year, driven largely by the government's stimulus program.

There were further signs of labor market improvement, with the number of people collecting long-term unemployment benefits dropping 68,000 to 5.75 million in the week ended Oct. 24, the lowest since March.

So-called continuing claims have stayed below the 6 million mark for a third successive week. The decline is likely both the result of fewer new applications for unemployment benefits and many jobless workers exhausting their benefits.

The four-week moving average of continuing claims dropped 79,500 to 5.89 million. The insured unemployment rate, which measures the percentage of the insured labor force that is jobless, was unchanged at 4.4 percent in the week ended Oct. 24.


Copyright 2009 Reuters. Click for restrictions.

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chassie321 on November 5, 2009 at 08:52 AM

203Harpo_TheWatchman on November 5, 2009 at 08:59 AM
Lovely and Talented Sarah Palin.
This is the kind of leadership you want in your party?She helped you lose a congressional seat the the pugs have held for 100 years!!Go ahead,she will be a nightmare for the pugs,count on losing more seats in 2010!

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peaceman on November 5, 2009 at 09:22 AM

call it what you want to Thomassss, but you know it is true---the entire country dislikes Palin! and I am referring to YOUR assertions that we are jealous or afraid of her-----because we are not ! WHY would I be afraid of someone who has been a joke since her first interview?
Obsession? I have no anxiety at all---merely an excitement on taking on Palin and winning in the end ! I am very competitive----and I shall watch her go down, hopefully with my help!


Your boy Obama is opening credit card accounts at a rate unlike ever seen before!
Funny how you manage to overl@@k that!


OH, au contraire, Thomassss. I have watched, L@@ked and listened as economists and experts have all said----the only way out of this mess Bush created is to SPEND, SPEND, SPEND. It has now come to light that the stimulus package was no where near enough---because of Republican's obstruction. I am supposed to believe YOU, you silly pussy, that he has to cut spending in order to fix this----or to those who know what the hell they are talking about???

Peaceman-----they suddenly ignore the fact that Palin jumped on the Conservative's bandwagon and came out in support for him! Sure wasn't HER fault that a RED RED district suddenly decided a Democrat was a better choice, than a bug eyed Nut case ! Just a sign of things to come. If Repugs are smart, they will keep Palin Poison away from their campaigns.

back later on.

Leaf pickup chore today.

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PamB on November 5, 2009 at 09:41 AM

and one last one for Thomassss, who has gone off to his retraining class:


"However, perhaps the most consequential race of the night was the special election in the 23rd Congressional District of New York in which the Republican candidate, a moderate, was purged from the Republican Party by the most extreme elements of the conservative right wing including Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. This race turned out to be the worst of all possible worlds for Republicans as not only did the Democrat, Bill Owens, win a seat that Democrats have not held in more than 100 years, but what occurred in New York has exposed a war within the Republican Party that will not soon end. It played itself out in Pennsylvania earlier this year when longtime Republican Senator Arlen Specter became a Democrat and is playing itself out in House, Senate and Gubernatorial races nationwide. The all out war between Republicans and the far right wing is a disaster for the Republican Party and will dog it well after today


They are talking about YOU, thomasss.

You know thomasss, both Stevie and Dufus are crazy blowhards, just ranting and crying to feel important to themselves, so I do not picture them doing anything for the party.

but YOU, on the other hand, I imagine if you took that Anger of your's, and channeled it and directed it to some positive effort for the Republican Party , you might be one to accomplish something. but you see, you would rather keep that hate, that anger, those Limbaugh/Fox distortions inside of you and spew them here, than to go out and get involved. Oh, I don't mean the few hours volunteer work you did at the RNC convention last year. I mean REAL work.

So you keep coming, Thomassss. I would much rather you here, than out there !

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PamB on November 5, 2009 at 09:53 AM

Fourteen Charged By FBI for Hedge Fund Insider Trading

Published: Thursday, 5 Nov 2009 | 9:52 AM ET

Federal prosecutors say criminal charges have been filed against 14 people, including attorneys and Wall Street professionals, in a widening $25 million insider trading case.

Court papers say the case is connected to an investigation of the Galleon Group. Its founder, the billionaire hedge fund manager Raj Rajaratnam and five others were arrested in the case last month.


Rajaratnam denies participating in a scheme to use inside information to trade stocks at a profit ahead of public announcements.

The FBI has confirmed to CNBC that 7 people are in custody after being arrested in connection with an ongoing probe of insider trading in the hedge fund industry.

The FBI says those arrested are employees of Galleon, Schottenfeld Group, law firm Ropes & Gray, and Incremental Capital.

A press conference will be held Thursday to announce the filing of criminal charges against 14 individuals, including attorneys and Wall Street professionals, for their alleged involvement in insider trading that netted $25 million.

Investigators had previously said they expected more people


More Here

http://www.cnbc.com/id/33653962

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chassie321 on November 5, 2009 at 09:57 AM

Good morning, all.

It's time to beef up job placement services...

Despite millions of job seekers, many positions sit open

Jessica Dickler
CNNMoney.com staff writer
November 3, 2009

Despite millions of unemployed job seekers desperate for work, many open positions are languishing unfilled. The reason? Not enough candidates.

With job openings largely concentrated in specialized industries like health care, green technology and energy, some employers say the problem is finding qualified workers, which are in short supply. Meanwhile, they are inundated with eager candidates from other industries who lack the skills and experience that the job requires.

According to a recent survey by Human Capital Institute and TheLadders, more than half of employers said "quality of candidates" or "availability of candidates" are their greatest challenges -- despite the recession.

Mary Willoughby, the director of human resources at the Center for Disability Rights in Rochester, New York, has been trying to hire registered nurses, home health aides and service coordinators for several of the agencies that she oversees.

Many of the positions, which require specific skills and offer salaries in the range of $30,000 to $45,000, have been vacant for six months or longer.

The job postings, which appear on CareerBuilder, Craigslist and some regional sites, garner a lot of attention, she says. "We get tons of résumés from people. We are just not getting highly qualified candidates."

The problem, according to Willoughby, is that they are bombarded by résumés from job seekers without the two years or more of health care experience necessary. "We're seeing a lot of people trying to break into the health care arena," she said.

As a result, human resources spends too much time sifting through résumés for people who aren't remotely qualified, and can't find many that are. "We've gotten close to 300 résumés for a service coordinator position. Out of that we brought in four people," she said.

Those that didn't make the cut included someone with previous experience as an office clerk and a job applicant with a bachelor's in mathematics, currently employed at a café...

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Despite-millions-of-job-cnnm-215026799.html?x=0&mod=career-work

The reason? Where is the government agency that could be expediting jobs placement?

Someone needs to start matching up people to available jobs. Having everyone scrambling around looking in the wrong places is inefficient and wasting everyone's time.

The state unemployment offices used to do this. There were career counselors working with employers to find the right person and the unemployed the right job. Now we just send people off on their own to access computers that don't sort experience and qualifications qualitatively. We need professionals making possible matches and judgment calls to speed along the process.

There are plenty of private job services out there but few of the unemployed or the employers (in this economy) have the money or knowledge of how to utilize them. And then most of them are so specialized they don't work together. This just doesn't work when we have an unemployment rate as high as 10%.

There are matches between people and skills that are just not always obvious. Everyone is out there on their own.

The Obama Administration needs to ask Congress for appropriations to immediately re-establish a job search infrastructure which addresses this problem. We need a clearinghouse approach like we did back in the 1970's. It's just another example of how a system that used to work was "downsized" and became a casualty of the Reagan War on the Middle Class.

Aren't you just sick of the incompetence and penny pinching the Republicans instituted within government just so a few very wealthy people could make gobs of money off of the inefficiencies these conservative policies create?

This was deliberately done to cause chaos. Privatization, outsourcing, and deregulation are the evils of a vigorous free enterprise system. It creates monopolies not capitalism with its many choices and opportunities for all.
It's time for the privileged few to start competing on a level playing ground.

The system is broken and the conservatives caused it. It's the responsibility of government to fix it. And it's just too bad if the Republicans don't want to face up to the task.

Get out of the way, you cry babies, if you don't want to be part of the solution. We're going to help put people back to work and give employers a helping hand in doing it.

Gotta run. later.

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SandyH on November 5, 2009 at 10:24 AM


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