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President Barack Obama, former President George H. W. Bush and Defense Secretary Robert Gates greet Marine Corps cadets in the Marine Corps Mess Hall at Texas A&M University, in College Station, Texas. Photo by Pete Souza.
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Good morning from PCB with its tropical storm weather. I am Inn Paradise and it is starting to clear.
If you missed this Dems.... get your Christmas shopping done early! These won't stay on the shelf very long! for your Repug friends who only look at the pictures, anyways !
Sarah Palin "Going Rouge" Coloring Book: Receiving National Attention as a Great Comic, Hands-On Parody of Palin's "Going Rogue" Book
By Julie Sigwart and Michael Stinson
BuzzFlash.com's Review (excerpt)
Hysterical and fun coloring book parody of Palin's farcical "Going Rogue" "memoirs." Conceived, written and illustrated by our colleagues Julie Sigwart and Michael Stinson.
As written up in the Washington Post on November 6th:
"'Going Rouge': The Sarah Palin coloring book"
Love her or hate her, people are drawn to Sarah Palin. Now, a new book wants you to color her.
One year after the race for the White House, publishers have released several books about the GOP vice presidential candidate. The most anticipated is her own memoir, "Going Rogue: An American Life," which lands on store shelves on Nov. 17 and is tops in pre-orders on Amazon and Barnes & Noble's websites.
Will there be parodies? You betcha.
In fact, the two spoof books share the same title. "Going Rouge: Sarah Palin - An American Nightmare" features essays by writers for The Nation, a liberal magazine. The other is "Going Rouge -- The Sarah Palin Rogue Coloring and Activity Book" by husband and wife team Julie Sigwart and Michael Stinson.
"That other book just has a bunch of words," joked Stinson of The Nation's book. "We got pictures!"
But coloring pictures is only half of it. There are mazes such as "Help Sarah find her way to the White House" (hint: it's impossible) and a cut-out paper doll page titled "Dress Sarah for Success!" (wardrobe options include an Alaskan wolf pelt skirt). There's also a word search with this theme: "Sarah wins nomination for Pres! Who will she pick for her Veep?" Names to be found include Rush Limbaugh, Joe the Plummer, and Hairstylist.
Stinson, 57, and his wife are long-time liberal political activists who live in Ocean Pines, Md., and work as graphic artists.
He is also well acquainted with the Alaskan terrain. He worked there as a uranium prospector in the 1970s. At one point the helicopter he was flying in crashed over the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and Stinson, along with the rest of crew, spent a week in the remote wilderness before they were found. ("We actually did talk about cannibalism.")
Echoing Palin's "drill, baby, drill" statement from her vice presidential debate, he said the goal of the coloring book is to have it "sell, baby, sell!" He called the response to date "phenomenal," especially among bookstores in Alaska.
"We decided to do something playful and spontaneous," said Stinson, who used to collect every issue of Mad Magazine. "We also figured a coloring book was the perfect vehicle in which to lampoon her."
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From the co-authors, Julie and Michael (colleagues of BuzzFlash):
Yeah, yeah, we heard all about the Sarah Palin's Book Going Rogue – An American Life to be launched on Nov 17th. They expect to move 1.5 million copies, and pre-orders have been brisk.
We couldn't let that stand without a fight. There are two sides to every story, but let's get something clear here – Sarah didn't write this book either.
So we created an alternative: Going Rouge – The Sarah Palin Rogue Coloring and Activity Book, now available for pre-order, with a launch date of November 17th, just like that other shameless rot. But our book is chock full of mazes (like “Help Sarah find her way to the White House”), puzzles, word games, and brilliant illustrations to color or chuckle over as we mercilessly lampoon and parody everything Palin in 48 pages of hilarity.
Sarah Palin Paper Dolls on the Back Cover! Click the image for a larger view!
C'mon, you don't want to create the appearance that you condone or support Sarah Palin by purchasing crap you KNOW will be piled high in the $3 book bin in a few months, do you? Instead, order a classic, collectible Palin book – one that hasn't even been colored in yet – one that's not just a buncha words, it's got pictures!
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Good morning, DEMS!
Hey, Pam, you're FIRST! But you forgot to post:
NO TROLLS ALLOWED!
DEMOCRATS IN BLUE STATES, THAT VOTED FOR THE ANTI ABORTION, ANTI CHOICE, ANTI WOMEN STEPAK AMENDMENT!!
IF ANY OF THEM ARE YOUR'S----GET ON THE PHONE TODAY !
District Representative PVI
PA-14 Doyle, Mike D+19
AL-07 Davis, Artur D+18
CA-43 Baca, Joe D+13
OH-17 Ryan, Timothy D+12
IL-03 Lipinski, Daniel D+11
MI-05 Kildee, Dale D+11
MA-09 Lynch, Stephen D+11
TX-16 Reyes, Silvestre D+10
OH-09 Kaptur, Marcy D+10
RI-02 Langevin, Jim D+9
MA-02 Neal, Richard D+9
CA-20 Costa, Jim D+5
CA-18 Cardoza, Dennis D+4
PA-11 Kanjorski, Paul D+4
TN-05 Cooper, Jim D+3
WI-07 Obey, David D+3
ME-02 Michaud, Michael D+3
IL-12 Costello, Jerry D+3
MN-08 Oberstar, James D+3
OH-01 Driehaus, Steve D+1
GA-02 Bishop, Sanford D+1
GA-12 Barrow, John D+1
If groups like NARAL and EMILY's List ever want to start being effective, they would begin by using this list to find good primary targets. There's absolutely no reason why many of these districts (some of which gave Obama over 60% of their vote) should elect anti-choice representatives. Yet year after year, almost of these Congressmembers seem to get a pass from the pro-choice establishment.
(isn't it amazing, that all but one, are MEN! WTF are men doing sticking their noses into Women's bodily issues for? None of their business. Yet I bet every one of these idiots is out there decrying Welfare aid to Single Mothers !!!!
Good morning, all.
I guess teabaggers living in Germany aren't too happy either?
Happiest States are Wealthy and Tolerant
Jeanna Bryner
Senior Writer
LiveScience.com
Though you might not be able to run away from your problems, moving to another state could be good for the soul. New research suggests U.S. states with wealthier, better educated and more tolerant residents are also happier on average.
The reasoning is that wealthy states can provide infrastructure and so it's easier for residents to get their needs met. In addition, states with a greater proportion of artists and gays would also be places where residents can freely express themselves.
On average, well-being was highest in the Mountain states and West Coast states, followed by the Eastern Seaboard and then the Midwest and Southern states...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20091110/sc_livescience/happieststatesarewealthyandtolerant
The great difference between people in this world is not between the rich and the poor or the good and the evil. The biggest of all differences in the world is between the ones that had or have pleasure in love and those that haven't and hadn't any pleasure in love, but just watch it with envy, sick envy.
Tennessee Willams,
Sweet Bird of Youth, Act 1
We see a lot of sick envy around here from those who have shut themselves off from the rest of the human race.
Hi, Pam.
Thanks for that book recommendation. I'm enjoying it immensely.
Some of those reps you listed above had to vote the way they did. They must represent the people of their districts.
Since this stipulation is not really any different than current law, I don't see that they were turning their backs on the party. We must maintain our big tent.
As the older generation dies off, the population will grow more tolerant and this too we will overcome. The teabaggers are marginalizing and alienating themselves from the young.
As I've said many times, we are not experiencing a normal recession; it's the outsourcing....
In N.C., damage not easily mended
Globalization drives unemployment to 15% in one corner of state
By Peter Whoriskey
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, November 10, 2009
HICKORY, N.C. -- The expansion of global trade may enrich the United States, as economists say, but it has overwhelmed this manufacturing area beside the Blue Ridge Mountains.
This Story
Officially, the remedy for these workers is Trade Adjustment Assistance, a long-standing federal retraining program that offers community-college tuition and extended unemployment benefits to tens of thousands of workers affected by foreign competition. Its budget has run about $1 billion annually.
But as interviews with a few dozen people here show, much of the damage to the affected workers is not so easily mended.
Many workers are forced to forgo the training because they cannot afford to live on unemployment benefits long enough to get the training certificate or a degree. The average unemployment check is roughly $300 a week, and many study without benefit of health insurance.
Ritch, for example, is enrolled in a class to learn how to work in a doctor's office, but she recently lost her home and her health insurance.
"I pray," she said.
Moreover, of those who manage to finish their retraining, a significant percentage do not find jobs. Of those who do, about half earn only a fraction of their former pay, a 2000 Government Accountability Office study found.
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Ken Austin, 55, has twice lost jobs to foreign competition, one in textiles and one at a furniture company. Now he is enrolled in a two-year program that will teach him how to install heating and air-conditioning systems. When he finishes, he hopes to find a job earning about $25,000, or about two-thirds what he made driving a forklift at a furniture company...
Enrich who? Those that conspire with foreign industrialists?
The Republicans like to call it globalization. Outsourcing is what it really is.
There aren't enough doctor offices or air conditioning businesses to absorb all the blue and white collar jobs being sucked right out from under us by multinationals...not fair foreign competition.
Yesterday we lost over 600 chemical research jobs in my area. The corporation decided that cheap Asian workers chould do these jobs better (cheaper). They have determined that American researchers don't have anything to contribute to medical research any longer except perhaps to act like human Guinea pigs to test the new drugs formulated by others overseas?
Those that sew the straightest seams or craft the most stylish furniture are also a drag on the economy and of no value in the great scheme of things according to the world's top 2%?
It's the Republican trade deals that eliminated fair competition and put entire American industries at risk. This is what is keeping this country from recovering from Bush's Great Depression. The Republicans worked hand-in-hand with foreigners to undermine their own economy.
This cannot be emphasized enough. And if Bill Clinton has to be called on the carpet for it, too, so be it. It's America First not International Corporations first.
Americans are not going to stand still and allow this once great country to become a third world colony any longer. If President Obama will not lead the way to correct this scam, we can find others among our big tent who will.
bbl.
Hi, Sandy. In the case of Lipinski, ("D"-IL) he has always been a Pug carpetbagger running in his old man's former District. His father was the Congressman forever and decided to retire. Dan Lipinski didn't even live in Illinois (he was a Professor at the U of TN in Knoxville, and lived in Tennessee) but when his father decided to retire he quit his job and moved here and won the Primary based on his father's name.
He then went on to cream the token Pug that was put up against him. He doesn't even own any property in Illinois, he rents a townhouse in one of the few Pug towns in that District.
He is so out of touch with his District that 2 years ago he was blanketing a huge chunk of Danny Davis' District with "Lipinski for Congress" crapola, because he didn't even know the boundaries of his own CD. And they weren't redrawn. Or maybe he did it so he could help out the white Pug because Davis is Black. Who knows with those amoral Pugs these days?
Check out his voting record. It is PUG all the way, regardless of the 'D' after his name.
Members of Congress / Daniel Lipinski / Key Votes
It is all War Funding and Border Fences.
He also has a habit of not showing up for key votes because he doesn't want to take a stand.
Members of Congress / Daniel Lipinski / Missed Votes
Nice, isn't it?
Votes to expand the VA Hospital in Walla Walla Washington? No show.
Extending Student Loan Programs? No show.
Water projects for poor areas? No show.
etc.
His "Vote with Party" ranking is in the 90% range, but like Liebermud, that includes things that are just pat on the back stuff, ot he back benches to see how the vote is going to turn out.
No surprise to see Costello on that list either. Lipinski was an aide to Costello when he was "working" his way through Georgetown.
Apparently, nothing has changed since 911....
Hasan e-mails to cleric didn't result in inquiry
Suspect in Fort Hood shootings will be tried in military court
By Philip Rucker, Carrie Johnson and Ellen Nakashima
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, November 10, 2009
FORT HOOD, TEX. -- Maj. Nidal M. Hasan corresponded by e-mail late last year and this year with a radical cleric in Yemen who has criticized the United States for waging war against Muslims, but the contact did not lead to an investigation, federal law enforcement officials said Monday...
"For me, the number of times that this guy tried to reach out to the imam was significant," Hoekstra said. "Al-Qaeda and radical jihadists use the Internet to spread radical jihadism. . . . So how much of [Hasan's] lashing out is a result of . . . his access to radical messages on the Internet and the ability to interact?
"I believe that the responses from Aulaqi were maybe pretty innocent," Hoekstra continued. "But the very fact that he's sent e-mail . . . to this guy and got responses would be quite a concern to me."
The FBI determined that the e-mails did not warrant an investigation, according to the law enforcement official. Investigators said Hasan's e-mails were consistent with the topic of his academic research and involved some social chatter and religious discourse.
Hoekstra and others are raising questions about whether government agencies paid sufficient attention to warning signs about Hasan.
The FBI isn't sharing info with other intelligence agencies.
And the military is ignoring warning signs from their own people. Why was this guy left to deal with his problems himself when he expressed so many times publicly that he felt he needed help? He had to go all the way to Yemen to get it...from a radical cleric?
Why wasn't this guy getting mental health counseling? It's pretty obvious most of those dealing with the effects of these Middle Eastern conflicts need it. Is it too expensive? The rich in this nation are so overburdened that they can't afford to pay any taxes to support medical care?
The root causes of this massacre were ignored just as the warning signs were. Same old, same old incompetence. The conservatives would rather filibuster and strut around acting like peacocks instead of doing their job.
Fund the damned programs that are designed to address our problems. Make those who can afford it sacrifice like we ask our troops to do.
I'm sick of conservatives acting outraged after these tragedies when they had a large part in creating these messes through their ideology.
Hi, DPD.
Then it's obviously time that we find someone a little more progressive to run for that seat? Howard Dean would be all over it and make sure the right person would get the support he needs.
I sincerely hope that this is a top priority of our party? Sometimes I wonder what is going on among those who were shown the way in 2006. Are they taking it to heart or falling back into bad habits?
This is why I intend to spend all of my time next year helping local and state progressive candidates get a foot hold in the system. We might not win the first time, but we will be chipping away.
Gotta run. I've stayed way to long this morning.
later.
Fort Hood suspect warned of threats within the ranks
Cited stress facing Muslims Hasan spoke at Walter Reed in 2007
By Dana Priest
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, November 10, 2009
The Army psychiatrist believed to have killed 13 people at Fort Hood warned a roomful of senior Army physicians a year and a half ago that to avoid "adverse events," the military should allow Muslim soldiers to be released as conscientious objectors instead of fighting in wars against other Muslims.
As a senior-year psychiatric resident at Walter Reed Army Medical Center, Maj. Nidal M. Hasan was supposed to make a presentation on a medical topic of his choosing as a culminating exercise of the residency program.
Instead, in late June 2007, he stood before his supervisors and about 25 other mental health staff members and lectured on Islam, suicide bombers and threats the military could encounter from Muslims conflicted about fighting in the Muslim countries of Iraq and Afghanistan, according to a copy of the presentation obtained by The Washington Post.
"It's getting harder and harder for Muslims in the service to morally justify being in a military that seems constantly engaged against fellow Muslims," he said in the presentation.
"It was really strange," said one staff member who attended the presentation and spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the investigation of Hasan. "The senior doctors looked really upset" at the end. These medical presentations occurred each Wednesday afternoon, and other students had lectured on new medications and treatment of specific mental illnesses.
An Army spokesman said Monday night he was unaware of the presentation, and a Walter Reed spokesman declined to comment. It is unclear whether anyone in attendance reported the briefing to counterintelligence or law enforcement authorities whose job it is to identify threats from within the military ranks...
WTF is this? Is the military so stretched for doctors in these stupid conflicts that none of these people raised an alert?
Why don't we just invite Al Queada to fight us here at home? It would have been a lot easier and less expensive for everyone apparently.
My heart goes out to the families of the victims at Ft. Hood. The military is not protecting their own.
Sandy,
No, those names above are Democrats in Blue States, who do not have to worry about Constituents who are anti abortion.
that PVI number refers to the index of how strongly their state leans towards their political party.
"The following Democrats sit in blue seats compared to the nation as a whole (as measured by the Cook Partisan Voting Index), yet voted for the anti-choice Stupak amendment"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cook_Partisan_Voting_Index
There was not a reason in the world for them to vote against Women's rights!
Good afternoon fellow Americans. Good morning to the left coast and the Mountain Zone.
Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance?
November 09, 2009 6:30 PMFrom Sunlen Miller:
During an exclusive interview with ABC News’ Jake Tapper today, President Obama said that penalties are appropriate for people who try to “free ride” the health care system but stopped short of endorsing the threat of jail time for those who refuse to pay a fine for not having insurance.
“What I think is appropriate is that in the same way that everybody has to get auto insurance and if you don't, you're subject to some penalty, that in this situation, if you have the ability to buy insurance, it's affordable and you choose not to do so, forcing you and me and everybody else to subsidize you, you know, there's a thousand dollar hidden tax that families all across America are -- are burdened by because of the fact that people don't have health insurance, you know, there's nothing wrong with a penalty.”
Under the House bill those who can afford to buy insurance and don’t’ pay a fine. If the refuse to pay that fine there’s a threat – as with a lot of tax fines – of jail time. The Senate removed that provision in the Senate Finance Committee.
Mr. Obama said penalties have to be high enough for people to not game the system, but it’s also important to not be “so punitive” that people who are having a hard time find themselves suddenly worse off, thus why hardship exemptions have been built in the legislation.
“I think the general broad principle is simply that people who are paying for their health insurance aren't subsidizing folks who simply choose not to until they get sick and then suddenly they expect free health insurance. That's -- that's basic concept of responsibility that I think most Americans abide by,” Mr. Obama said, “penalties are appropriate for people who try to free ride the system and force others to pay for their health insurance.”
The President said that he didn’t think the question over the appropriateness of possible jail time is the “biggest question” the House and Senate are facing right now...
-Sunlen Miller
Mr. President, jail time is inappropriate, IMHO. While I can understand and appreciate the car insurance analogy, one does not get locked up for not having insurance. They may have their driving privileges revoked but not jail time unless they caught a number of times driving without a license.
The most appropriate thing to do is to garnish their tax returns. Rich people will have health insurance. That is a given. Us poor people are significantly more eligible to get tax refunds. Keep the refunds, Mr. President, from those who do not get health insurance. Even us poor people can get Medicaid if we're unemployed or in a low paying job such as the People's Republic of Wal-Mart.
Stand firm on this, Mr. President. This legislation is, by far, not what it is supposed to be. We would've all been better off with a single-payer system, like Medicare. But since the Congress has too many members bought and paid for by the insurance lobby, on both sides of the proverbial aisle, we'll have to resolve that in the election booths across this great nation of ours.
The thought of jail will force the weak to follow,
WE SHALL OVER COME, by all means necessary.
SandyH on November 10, 2009 at 12:21 PM
I think we may be giving this incident more credence than it deserves. MAJ Hasan was but one of thousands of mental nealth professionals in today's service. And while you're correct to point out that there were warning flags, the only fix to this is to institute the "thought police". This was an isolated incident as were the other cases of fraticide.
I'm glad MAJ Hasan was captured alive. Now he can be studied in depth. And when he is put to death for his actions, assuming he is convicted for such, a full autopsy and dissection can be performed as well. Anything we can learn from this will go towards preventing such in the future.
Of course, the first thing we should do is to issue sidearms to all military personnel in uniform to be worn anytime they are in uniform. Soldiers are not meant to walk around unarmed otherwise, they wouldn't be soldiers.
**Frosty** on November 10, 2009 at 02:13 PM
And Mr. Salzman's degree is in what, logrolling? While his service is appreciated, his assessment would carry more weight were he a trained psychologist or psychiatrist. Until he has those credentials, he's just another voice in the chorus like the rest of us.
TypperCA on November 10, 2009 at 02:15 PM
You're a bit over the top with this rant as it is now. Care to revise and extend your remarks?
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BobVADemocratHawk on November 10, 2009 at 02:23 PM
Maybe the lumberjack can diagnose Stevie's obsessive need to use sock puppets like "TypperCA".
**Frosty** on November 10, 2009 at 02:36 PM
You're calling into the question the patriotism of the POTUS? You hypocritical bastard! During the previous administration, people like you would've been calling for the POTUS to order the DHS to round us all up had we made such a baseless claim.
If there is a lack of allegiance being exhibited by anyone it is those on the political right who allegiance obviously isn't with America but only to the almighty dollar and Chinese Communists. The POTUS is smart enough to wait until all the evidence is in and all the investigations have been conducted.
What crap.
17**Frosty** on November 10, 2009 at 02:09 PM
What crap is right. Because he used a religious shout before thinking he was about to die, all of a sudden he is a terrorist? One of those big bad Muslims???
Now let me ask you Stevie boy, should the day come when you are going to be forced to embark on a trip, that will take you to a far away place, and the enemy are all Evangelical holy rollers, and you are expected to bomb and shoot them, including their children, will YOU go willingly and in good conscience?
You see, this man happened to be of Muslim faith, and could not see doing that.
You look at a group of Muslims, probably several thousand, who interpret the Koran FAR differently than the millions of other Muslims do who interpret it as Peace and Hope, and you lump them all as being bad. but that is because you do not have the capacity to think clearly, period. It is a case of your HAVING to hate other religions, other races, other genders, in order for you to feel good about yourself.
It is pitiful.
TypperCA on November 10, 2009 at 02:37 PM
If you're looking for socialists then you are in the wrong place. This is America. We are capitalists. And while we Democrats believe in a well regulated capitalist system, in the end, it is still capitalist and should remain such.
If you're interested in Socialism, go here: http://www.sp-usa.org/
We are Democrats, not socialists.
Christian Fundie and right winger Timothy McVeigh (your hero) killed 168 Americans.
I guess in your demented mind your side "won".
Stevie, Stevie, the man was SICK. Just like you. In the head. Does not matter what religion he was. What if he had been a Jew? How about a Catholic? The only thing would be he was a sick man
Who knows when it will be YOU up on the rooftop with your guns, and finally expressing your hatred in a more violent way. Will you shout Hallelujah, perhaps, as you gun them down?
You are a very poor profiler, Stevie---lumping everyone into grooves.
TypperCA on November 10, 2009 at 03:05 PM
Let me make one thing abundantly clear. We Blue Dog Democrats are going nowhere. The Democratic Party does not have a majority without us. And it'll be a cold day in hell before we let some left wing extremists destroy this party like the right wing extremists are doing to the GOP.
PamB on November 10, 2009 at 03:16 PM
The knuckledraggers would have us take out all the Muslims form the service and have them summarily executed though there have been only two incidents of fratricide by Muslims, this decade, including this one. Two out of thousands is pretty good percentage if you ask me and is fairly indicative of the Muslim extremist problem. Funny we didn't hear a call for persecuting all Christians when Timothy McVeigh or Eric Rudolph, amond others, went on their escapades of death and destruction.
Palestinians have weapons????
sheesh, all I have ever seen them with is rocks and burning tires. For those angry enough at the Israeli steam rollers who rolled over and took their homes, they strap on a bomb and try and take out the enemy with them! What if somebody in Hinckley came tomorrow and bulldozed your shack in the woods Stevie, and drove you out on the road with nothing and no place to go? told you God wanted them to have your spot?
You think you would just say, OH, OK then, and walk away? You think you would lay your gun down on the road and tell them you just want peace?
Come on, old man, get real ! You have no concept of what is going on.
TypperCA on November 10, 2009 at 03:24 PM
Indeed, there is only one POTUS at a time. You state the obvious. However, President Obama is no socialist and neither are we Democrats. And your admiration of the POTUS could be construed as worship unless you decide to revise and extend your remarks.
The guy who murdered Dr. Tiller called a radio station and confessed and bragged about killing him saying he did it for for his Christian beliefs.
Lock up ALL the Fundies!
And BAN all those Fundie nut job Chaplains from EVER setting foot on ANY Military base.
Starting with that rats nest of Evangelical Nazism in Colorado Springs.
I wonder how many of are Soldiers, the Right Wing Terrorist's will kill??????????
They are blocking and obstructing, the VA Bill, you know Frosty.
However not a peep out of you, about this terrorism!!!!!
Pammy is showing her age, we haven't used steam rollers for at least 100 years.
And that is your answer to WHAT WOULD YOU DO??
You know damn well, you would fight back for what was your's, too. You just don't want to admit that the Palestinians have a right to fight back. If Israel wants peace, then let THEM lay their weapons down. Park their bulldozers, and extend their hand ! Betcha you wouldn't see anymore reasons for young Palestinians to strap on bombs >
The trouble is, Stevieboy, you live too far out on your own, with not enough Social interaction. You are one of those loners they talk about. Needing a few screws tightened !
**Frosty** on November 10, 2009 at 03:41 PM
While I am not 100% clear on Timothy McVeigh's motives in OK City bombing, Eric Rudolph was a known Christian extremist and he has stated, many times, that his murders were motivated by his religious beliefs.
Furthermore, if you're going to tout Christianity as a peaceful religion, which it is, and then a post or two later call for the murder of all Muslims, you're going to be seen, again, as nothing more than a hypocrite. PamB was absolutely correct. Everyone we've cited today, whether it be MAJ Hasan or Eric Rudolph, are sick people and deserve to be locked up forever and studied under a proverbial microscope so we can learn what makes these people do what they do and find ways to stop future incarnations of them. Their religion is only part of the equation, not the whole.
Good afternoon, all.
BobVADemocratHawk on November 10, 2009 at 01:59 PM
Bob,
We are both grieving today. You seek rational answers. I am angry about the lowering of our standards. How many more isolated incidents are we going to allow to happen?
What would have saved the children of these enlisted men and officers if this egomaniac had decided to go house-to-house on Ft. Hood? Are we going to issue sidearms to the youngsters on military bases, too, while their parents are overseas?
Don't we have a responsibility of picking up on warning signs and sharing intel? This pre-meditated murderer had been very vocal about his insecurities with both the other doctors and those within his command. The FBI knew about his e-mails.
I'd really like us to face the fact that our military has become so stretched that they are letting things slide and others are afraid of speaking up about it.
"You go to war with the army you have," said Rumsfeld. No, you fight with the army that we as a people allow to exist. We need to give our troops the medical care they need and provide the security they deserve especially once they return to our shores from battle. We need to listen to their problems and take them seriously and protect and nourish their needs.
They aren't toy soldiers. They are men and women who have gone through hell not for one tour of duty but sometimes three or four. No modern power has ever asked so much and done so little to alleviate the pressure and nightmares these people carry in their minds everyday.
The least we can do is be honest about this. There is no explanation for this happening. None. This man was allowed to attack unarmed troops on a domestic base. It doesn't happen in other countries. No leadership could survive this sort of incompetence anywhere else. But that's all we've seen in this country for the last decade.
We as a nation have lowered our standards and the first place we saw it all coming apart at the seams was with our military in Iraq long before the economic meltdown. The military should be our first vestige of pride and honor. If we don't demand that it be done right there, we don't deserve for it be done right elsewhere in our economy, health care system, or communities.
I will not allow the America I love to become one big excuse, forever going from one big screw up to another. It's time to take responsibility for our actions...or inaction. No more excuses for not getting it right. Make people accountable for doing their jobs.
These soldiers will never get a second chance because we didn't insist that this be the standard by which all Americans live. It didn't used to be this way. Why is it now?
TypperCA on November 10, 2009 at 03:19 PM
So to hell with the First Amendment, eh? Not a chance that'll happen here.
TypperCA on November 10, 2009 at 03:48 PM
If you think I am weak then you are sorely mistaken, mister. And so you know, I am proud supporter of President Obama and you bet your arse I'm going to be in your way. This is America. And I will not let you, or the likes of you, turn it into another incarnation of the Soviet Union.
YOU are evil. You even use that name as one of your sock puppets.
Chimpy was repeatedly using the term "Crusade" and he invaded an Islamic country for absolutely NO reason other than he thought it would be a cake walk and he would be known as a successful "War President" (Chimpy's words. He admitted it.) And as an added bonus, Cheney could grab control of the oil. It didn't work out that way, did it?
When the Afghans were fighting the Russians, the leader of the Taliban was brought here and trained at Ft. Hood by the Sponge Brain Pee Pants and Shrub administrations, and financed to the MAX (the largest covert CIA funding scheme in history).
Just days after being appointed and sworn in by the Supremely Corrupt Court in January 2001, Chimpy the Alcoholic Blow Monkey gave the Taliban $40,000,000.00 allegedly to stop the opium poppy production, which they used to fight Chimpy's puppet government headed by Karzai, instead.
ALL of these situations INCLUDING the mess in Pakistan are ALL the fault of THE PUGS since RayGun, and their neo-con "screw up the world and it will make more money for the already rich" philosophy.
Even now, FOX Manure Spreader Channel constantly uses the term "Radical Muslims" and "Muslim Terrorists".
SandyH on November 10, 2009 at 03:57 PM
Unfortunately, my friend, ther will always be crime and thus there will always be criminals. And while we agree that DoD could've been more responsive to MAJ Hasan's glaring issues, we will never be able to stop them all. Please don't construe my take on this as being dismissive of the gravity of the situation. It is not intended as such. But when we step back and look at the whole of the military, the incidents of fratricide appear to be about average. And while they are distasteful, at best, they are to be expected because they have been happening since the invention of armies six millenia, or more, ago.
Took you long enough to notice that, Stevie.
**Frosty** on November 10, 2009 at 03:56 PM
And the prison guards who'll be watching this piece of human scum will save three hundred million people from another right wing extremist determined to force his small minded, religiously motivated, beliefs on others in direct violation of the First Amendment. What has the GOP devolved to when they start hero worshipping murderers?
Well, this explains that Stupak Amendment. He lives at the C Street Cult and Humpatorium* and is Cornyn's roomie.
So, a secretive religious cult is writing legislation now?
The Rachel Maddow Show: Bart Stupak's C-Street Gang
(* from TBogg)
I bet they ain't a Damn One of these Chicken-Hawks, got a damn thing planned, to honor there local Veterans, tomorrow.
All they got is to back, the right wing terrorists of the Pug party, voting against vets.
ITS A DAMN SHAME THAT THE RIGHT IS USING 13 DEAD SOLDIERS, FOR POLITICAL REASONS.
You people really are, HYPOCRITS.
MAY GOD HAVE MERCEY ON YOUR SOULS!
By Marc Kaufman Sunday, November 8, 2009ROME (WaPo)-- A little more than a half-mile from the Vatican, in a square called Campo de' Fiori, stands a large statue of a brooding monk. Few of the shoppers and tourists wandering through the fruit-and-vegetable market below may know his story; he is Giordano Bruno, a Renaissance philosopher, writer and free-thinker who was burned at the stake by the Inquisition in 1600. Among his many heresies was his belief in a "plurality of worlds" -- in extraterrestrial life, in aliens.
Though it's a bit late for Bruno, he might take satisfaction in knowing that this week the Vatican's Pontifical Academy of Sciences is holding its first major conference on astrobiology, the new science that seeks to find life elsewhere in the cosmos and to understand how it began on Earth. Convened on private Vatican grounds in the elegant Casina Pio IV, formerly the pope's villa, the unlikely gathering of prominent scientists and religious leaders shows that some of the most tradition-bound faiths are seriously contemplating the possibility that life exists in myriad forms beyond this planet. Astrobiology has arrived, and religious and social institutions -- even the Vatican -- are taking note.
Father Jose Funes, a Jesuit astronomer, director of the centuries-old Vatican Observatory and a driving force behind the conference, suggested in an interview last year that the possibility of "brother extraterrestrials" poses no problem for Catholic theology. "As a multiplicity of creatures exists on Earth, so there could be other beings, also intelligent, created by God," Funes explained. "This does not conflict with our faith because we cannot put limits on the creative freedom of God."
Yet, as Bruno might attest, the notion of life beyond Earth does not easily coexist with the "truths" that many people hold dear. Just as the Copernican revolution forced us to understand that Earth is not the center of the universe, the logic of astrobiologists points in a similarly unsettling direction: to the likelihood that we are not alone, and perhaps that we are not even the most advanced creatures in the universe. This may not "conflict with our faith," but it may conflict with the stories we tell about who and what we are.
The Vatican's five-day conference is chaired by the religious leader of the highly regarded Academy, Bishop Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo. Scientists (many of them nonbelievers) are offering presentations on subjects as varied as how life might have begun on Earth; what newly found "extremophile" microbes living in harsh places on our planet might tell us about possible life on others; and how life forms might be detected in our solar system, or how their bio-signatures might be found on and around the many distant exoplanets.
Having overcome the giggle factor of most things extraterrestrial, astrobiologists are telling a scientific story to an audience that may someday use it to defend -- or enhance -- its faith...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/06/AR2009110601899.html
My compliments to Pope Benedict XVI for his enlightened approach on this subject. I would hope that the Catholic Church would commit its vast resources to this study, among others. It speaks well of the Church and shows that we Catholics have indeed come a long ways from the days of scientific repression. It's too bad our Republican colleagues have yet to learn that ignorance of science is just plain ignorant.
Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 10, 2009 at 04:29 PM
So Rep. Stupak (D-MI) is a member of the C St. cult? That certainly explains a lot. Rachel Maddow is good with her research. Almost as good as you, Doo-Bee. ;-)
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BobVADemocratHawk on November 10, 2009 at 04:40 PM
I would hope that the Catholic RICO racket use its vast resources to start paying its 220 years of back taxes, especially now that they have decided to become a Political Action Committee.
Pull their tax exemptions, and open their books to IRS auditors!
The same goes for the Mor(m)on Cult.
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TypperCA on November 10, 2009 at 04:40 PM
Maybe it's time you swallow shit. I called you out as a sock puppet just minutes after your second post, asshole.
I was waiting for the flush, you sockpuppet.
TypperCA on November 10, 2009 at 04:40 PM
You really didn't expect my fine Democratic colleagues to fall for your little bait and switch game today, did you? You were pegged for what you are by your second or third post. They merely left it up to me to deal with you.
I am for President Obama. I am an American Democrat, not a communist no matter what you say or how you try to employ the old guilt by association trick. And I'll take Pam and Doo-Bee over you any day because, if nothing else, they are honest in their convictions and they damn sure don't play coy little games on this blog nor do I expect they do such in their public or personal lives.
And one last thing, if you think you're man enough to put that rope around my neck, you're more than welcome to try, bitch. Take this piece of advice. Stay hidden behind your keyboard like the rest of the trolls do. You'll be safer that way. Otherwise, at best, when you step up to me, or someone like me, you had better make sure your dental insurance is paid up because you'll need it.
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TypperCA on November 10, 2009 at 02:15 PM
Maybe the lumberjack can diagnose Stevie's obsessive need to use sock puppets like "TypperCA".
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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 10, 2009 at 02:34 PM
It was a little too similar to a regular's name, asshole. Plus the sentence structure was sock puppet-y.
Stevie was saying that all teh Muslims should be punished for the actions of one.
It's called reducto ad absurdum you ignorant unlearned asswipe.
Maybe if you completed High School you would have learned something other than how to be a friendless loser psychopath.
Still not looking for a job Tommy?
Come on. Only 3.9% of your demographic are currently unemployed. Is it a mental problem or a social thing that keeps you from being gainfully employed?
AZCactusDanTheMan on November 10, 2009 at 05:02 PM
AZCactusDanTheMan on November 10, 2009 at 05:04 PM
I did indeed. I, too, do not want any fundie whackjobs, like MAJ Hasan or the imitation Christians who brainwash our troops into believing they are some sort of religious crusade, in the military no matter what their religion is. No sane person would.
And as far as the Israeli-Palestinian conflict goes, both sides would be well served to agree to a truce for the sake of both of their peoples. Suicide bombers and amatuer rocket attacks are not the way to achieve peace no more than unwarranted excursions into the Palestinian territories by units of the IDF are. Pam, and others, are correct to point out the Palestinian position even when I, and others like me, disagree with said position. Anything less is intellectually dishonest, a practice that you members of the GOP have mastered.
AZCactusDanTheMan on November 10, 2009 at 05:20 PM
You can call me a peanut butter sandwich if you like, Dan, and it won't change one damn thing. And having stared down the Commies in the 1980's in West Germany, I know one when I see one.
My question to you would be why would you support the Republican Party and\or conservatism after it knowingly sold out millions of jobs to the Communists of China? If you're looking for a Communist sympathizer, he is not in the White House, he is in your bathroom mirror, Dan.
A retired Pakistani officer is quoted saying,"The only good thing the United States did for us was to look the other way about an atomic bomb when it suited the United States to do so." That was during the Reagan administration of course.
Defending the Arsenal
In an unstable Pakistan, can nuclear warheads be kept safe?
and:
[S]urely the most glaring omission in the film is the fateful trade-off accepted by President Ronald Reagan when he agreed not to complain about Pakistan’s efforts to acquire a nuclear weapons capability in exchange for Pakistani cooperation in helping the Afghan rebels.On page 463 of his book, Crile characterizes this deal or understanding as “the dirty little secret of the Afghan war” –- General Zia al-Haq’s ability to extract not only “massive aid” from Washington but also to secure Reagan’s acquiescence in Pakistan’s nuclear weapons program via a congressional waiver of U.S. nonproliferation laws...[T]his history remains a taboo topic for many within the Washington Establishment, especially those who look back favorably on the Reagan presidency.
And there's more: the Pakistani bomb was probably funded by Saudi Arabia, just as the Iraqi nuclear program was during the nineteen eighties. The Reagan administration was aware of it in both instances, but had other priorities.
The Reagan administration and its foreign policy is truly the gift that keeps on giving to America
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Get That Man a Place on Mount Rushmore
and:
Reagan's Bargain/Charlie Wilson's War
By Peter W. Dickson
January 6, 2008
It has been written about for over a year, and now Seymour Hersh is fleshing out more of the gory details.
You must have missed it when they mentioned it on the FOX Manure Spreader Channel 24/7/365.
You smug, willfully ignorant asshole.
Failing the troops at Fort Hood
By Eugene Robinson
Tuesday, November 10, 2009
There's a difference between sensitivity and stupidity. If there were indeed signs that Maj. Nidal Hasan, the alleged Fort Hood mass murderer, was becoming radicalized in his opposition to the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Army had a duty to act -- before he did....
But fairness is one thing, foolishness another. Any soldier who seemed as if he might be falling apart -- and it seems that Hasan gave a lot of people that impression -- should have been given more scrutiny. In Hasan's case, a closer look would have revealed his growing religiosity and his feeling that his faith was under assault. That Hasan had worshiped at a Virginia mosque whose spiritual leader was a radical named Anwar al-Aulaqi might also have come to light. The Post reported Monday that Aulaqi, who now lives in Yemen, has posted a message on his Web site calling Hasan a "hero" for what he allegedly did at Fort Hood.
Had authorities learned in advance of any link between Hasan and radical Islam -- as opposed to the mainstream Islam practiced by more than a billion people worldwide -- they could have moved immediately to ensure that Hasan could not hurt others or himself. That wouldn't have been an act of bigotry, it would have been an act of prudence, even compassion...
How is the Pentagon supposed to tell the difference between reasonable caution and blatant discrimination? There are thousands of Muslims in uniform, serving their country at home and abroad. Ask them.
Ask them? How about just listening to them?
Why do we need to spy on everyone when the ones who are going rouge are telling their superiors and they just ignore them?
Go fuck yourself, asswipe. That was the linking site. MAybe you should click on it and read all the internal links provided to more evidence.
RonZo and Shrub also created al Qaeda and funneled money to them through Saudi Arabia via Osama bin Laden.
When the Russians finally pulled out there were all these trained fighters of different factions with a TON of US tax money and plenty of time on their hands, so some went after the Afghan government allowing the Taliban to use al Qaeda as its enforcement arm.
The Pugs and their neo-Con foreign policy are the root cause of all that is happening today in that entire region.
But you Pug suckers are too stupid or vain to realize it.
AZCactusDanTheMan on November 10, 2009 at 05:36 PM
You are also one of the biggest bold faced liars on the planet.
Continue to to saying the most outrageous things. But you still can't match Palin. She's gotcha hands down.
BobVADemocratHawk on November 10, 2009 at 04:17 PM
Bob,
I appreciate your comments. You are much more realistic and rational than I. I just can't abide incompetence among authorities any longer. Do I tend to overreact? Well, maybe more than I should.
I'm not going to allow the military to call this a terrorist act when they were accessories to the crime, imho.
AZCactusDanTheMan on November 10, 2009 at 06:01 PM
Hey, this mass murderer was giving Jahadist sermons to the top brass at Walter Reed over two years ago. Where was the then Commander-in-Chief?
Oh, yeah. Bush was ignoring Walter Reed and the conditions of our wounded troops there entirely, wasn't he?
What was another mass murderer to Spunky when he was one himself?
Harpo_TheWatchman on November 10, 2009 at 06:15 PM
Four years of reading our posts have taken a toll on my sanity?
AZCactusDanTheMan on November 10, 2009 at 05:36 PM
I am a Democrat from a long line of Democrats. I have known and worked with Democrats of all stripes. You are no Democrat, Dan.
If anything, you're an old Dixiecrat that didn't get the memo, like Sen. Strom Thrumond (R-SC) and others did, that backward thinking conservatism and racism would no longer be tolerated in the Democratic Party. We had this necessary purge in the sixties. And people like you are certainly not welcome anymore in this party.
Speaking of crazy....
Palin faults coin design approved by Bush
•Politico says that in a speech Friday night in Wisconsin, former Gov.Sarah Palin took issue with the design of the new dollar coin, suggesting that President Barack Obama may be pulling a fast one.
In addition to the suggestion that government officials would consider hastening the death of the infirm or handicapped, she began her remarks with a puzzling commentary on the design of newly minted dollar coins.
Noting that there had been a lot of “change” of late, Palin recalled a recent conversation with a friend about how the phrase “In God We Trust” had been moved to the edge of the new coins.
“Who calls a shot like that?” she demanded. “Who makes a decision like that?”
She added: “It’s a disturbing trend.”
Unsaid but implied was that the new Democratic White House was behind such a move to secularize the nation’s currency.
But the new coins – concerns over which apparently stemmed from an email chain letter widely circulated among conservatives – were commissioned by the Republican-led Congress in 2005 and approved by President Bush."
For more, read Jonathan Martin’s story on Politico, http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29267.html
She sees dead people...and death panels at work even on coins. So in 2005 Obama voted to reject God and kill Jefferson, Eisenhower, JFK, etc?
Didn't know she was into conspiracy theories, too. Obama and Spunky worked together to kill JFK...on the half dollar?
SandyH on November 10, 2009 at 06:08 PM
You have never overreacted here, IMHO, nor are you prone to do such. And we fully agree that incompetence, of any degree, should not be tolerated. You're an excellent Democrat, Sandy, and don't ever believe otherwise.
AZCactusDanTheMan on November 10, 2009 at 06:34 PM
Now am I a left wing bozo or a fence sitter as you stated earlier? Stalin and Hitler are dead and Castro is as good as dead and none of them would've lasted three months here.
This is America. We don't have dictators though George W. Bush and his band of rogues certainly tried only to be stopped by us Democrats. You state that President Obama has no friends. By the last count, he has nearly seventy million of them or did you forget the results of last year's election?
Dan, you have the intellectual prowess of a box of rocks. Keep posting, though. We want the whole world to see what you Republicans have devolved to.
Obama will control the banks, cars and energy, health care and the food you eat Bob.
Whats that called, Bob?
Its not freedom.
That's what you give your kids.
How smart are you, just as smart as a Hitler supporter.
You state that President Obama has no friends
Bob
Count the ones that went under the bus in the last year, Bob.
If we are going to send anybody more into Afghanistan, why not make it 40,000 Peace Corps volunteers? I thought Obama wanted to ask all young Americans to commit to service in exchange for a free college education.
It would make a lot more sense to send these young out-of-work Americans to help Afghanis with education, agriculture, and public works instead of fighting them. Our military are not social workers but we do have people who could do that work. Why waste warriors for a peace mission?
I'd rather have a community organizer controlling the economy than a bunch of Wall Street gamblers and crooks.
Evening all good Dems,
I heard a guy last week on a progressive show who said that he lives near or next to mcloser's place in arizona. He said the property is heavily gated and one can't get near it. It has been for sale for a long time now and has gone into foreclosure.
So mcloser's wife has apparently dumped his ass and let the house go into foreclosure taking advantage of the taxpayers again.
I'd rather have a community organizer controlling the economy than a bunch of Wall Street gamblers and crooks.
66SandyH
Who were the first ones your Community Organizer gave money to?
AZCactusDanTheMan on November 10, 2009 at 06:50 PM
The POTUS does not control the banks or the car companies, only the ones that have yet to pay back their TARP loans. The POTUS does not control the energy sector. He does want to stop pollution through cap and trade legislation. The POTUS does not control any food companies. Who should reap the benefits of our healthcare system? Just those who can afford it and to hell with everyone else? And you Republicans wonder why you got your arses kicked in 2006 and 2008.
I voted for Al Gore and John Kerry. You're the one who voted for W twice and you see where that got us. Once again, you've proven just how inane your rants are. And when you start breaking out the Nazi comparisons, you further show just how far out of touch with reality you are.
Good night fellow Americans. Keep the Faith and keep the faith. Yes we can, yes we will, and yes we did!
...The torch [was] passed again to a new generation of Americans. So with Barack Obama and for you and for me, our country will be committed to his cause. The work begins anew. The hope rises again. And the dream lives on.
Talk about the intellectual prowess of a box of rocks.
Just talk to a hard core Obama supporter.
BBL
hannity today was bitching about the guy who shot those army guys at Fort Hood. He said we shouldn't jump to conclusions but the guy is a terrorist and that Obama should have done something about him. Obama was doing the politically correct thing by not getting him out of the army.
What a laugh. If this is true then hannity is a terrorist enabler and should be tried for terrorism with all his blabbering. beck and some of the other aholes should be tried for terrorism since they made threats against President Obama.
This guy was determined to be unfit for duty back in 2007 and who chimp was president then if I recall. Why the hell didn't he do something about him.
It seems to me that if we had determined him unfit for duty back in 2007 and did nothing then chimp is the one who should take the heat.
If we are going to send anybody more into Afghanistan, why not make it 40,000 Young Republicans?
Just a bit of editing to fix that for you, Sandy.
SandyH on November 10, 2009 at 07:01 PM
As much as that is a great idea for the future, it would be impractical to do that just now due to the security situation which the previous administration ignored for over six years. Let's let GEN McChrystal get a handle on the situation first with the extra troops. If the General fails, then the Afghans didn't want our help anyway and they should be left to wallow in their own squallor especially since, as a nation, they were complicit in the attacks of 11SEP01.
Hi, johne.
That Adams Family Mansion has gone into arrears? Where will McCain hold family BBQs and entertain the rest of the old geezers of the Republican Party?
Maybe he's afraid the teabaggers are going to storm his Bastille like they did in NY 23? Heaven knows there isn't any love lost there any more.
So now that Cindy won't be playing the part of Jackie Kennedy in the White House, she's said the heck with pretending they live together? Good for her. Just having to listen to Lieberman whining all the time at her home would have driven most women to the progressive side.
Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 10, 2009 at 07:14 PM
Oh, that is so tempting....
BBL
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AZCactusDanTheMan on November 10, 2009 at 07:11 PM
Awwww, widdle Stevie needs a nappy so he can retire his daytime sock puppet and come back as Stevie and Evil again later.
Such a wonderful and joyous life he leads full of such mirth, with friends galore, all living in his head.
Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 10, 2009 at 07:14 PM
Are there even 4,000 left? I thought they all had jumped to the Libertarians.
Any young fool who is clinging to the skirts of Palin needs to take a good look at sally* to see where their nuttiness will lead in the future. The Birthers are evil geniuses in comparison.
Ha ha = Glen Beck got rid of another one.
A Sad Day For Commies… White House Mao Supporter Steps Down From Top Post
It’s a sad day for commies.
Barack Obama’s Mao supporting communications director Anita Dunn will step down from her post at the end of the month and Dan Pfeiffer, her deputy, will take over, according to sources familiar with the move.
Dunn praised Mao in a recent speech to high school graduates.
But don’t worry. She wasn’t alone.
Obama’s manufacturing czar, Ron Bloom, is also a Mao supporter.
Bob,
You and McCrystal are just putting off the inevitable. Why pretend that this can end any differently than it did for the Soviets? We are spinning our wheels in Afghanistan at best.
I'm all for public works projects to get the economy going but not in a foreign country. The Afghanis just keep blowing up or abandoning anything our occupying army tries to build for them.
BTW, The Peace Corps was a brilliant strategic foreign policy idea. We should have tried it first in the Middle East before invading.
It was a sad day today. How many more of these memorial services must the country welcome back our soldiers with before we realize that we can't make them cooperate over there. It has to be their idea.
Looking at our current economic and military situation, they don't think we have anything to offer...and they might be right.
Good night, everyone.
Glenn Beck got rid of anyone? I think it was more frustration by those who left. People get sick of making nice with obstructionists...well, everyone but President Obama.
Bye.
Dunn praised Mao in a recent speech to high school graduates.
**Frosty**
Hahaha, I saw that on CNN. It's like these idiots in the white House think they are bullet proof.
Stupid woman put a big ass firecracker in her ass and lit it with her mouth.
It just went off.
Let me make one thing abundantly clear. We Blue Dog Democrats are going nowhere. The Democratic Party does not have a majority without us. And it'll be a cold day in hell before we let some left wing extremists destroy this party like the right wing extremists are doing to the GOP.
25BobVADemocratHawk on November 10, 2009 at 03:17 PM
I second that!
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Doo-Bee-Doo-Bee-Doo on November 10, 2009 at 07:14 PM
We should send fatass hannity to Afghanistan. He can broadcast on armed forces radio in his bunker and direct bush's war.
To fear the LORD is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech.
Proverbs 8:13
enjoy the evening.
Evening Dems........
Ahhhh, it is so nice and peaceful here on Tuesdays while Dufus has to be at his part time job. Only problem is, the old man comes in meaner than a junk yard dog at night because he thinks it is OUR fault he has to go out to work at his age of 70. sheesh, this recession started December 2007!!! Bush's failed regime.
And thank goodness Thomassss' retraining classes do not allow them near a computer all day.
I was worried about Thomass---he was missing a couple of days, and I figured he must have gone to visit Dufus's pig ranch, and picked up Swine flu. No job yet, huh Thomasss? Hang in there, Your Liberals just gave you an extra 14 weeks of unemployment. You are safe through the holidays. Just won't be able to buy any presents----but you Repugs don't go in for that anyways, right?
Blog you Dems tomorrow.
Enjoy your evening..........
Obama 101,
No reprieve from such a fierce government was offered when Stalin took power after Lenin’s death either, in fact such dire circumstances were only intensified. Stalin established a totalitarian dictatorship, in which he only ever elected those devoted to his own beliefs and goals, giving the impression that the entire nation supports him.
From this pedestal Stalin could impact all areas of society, and put to use heavy propaganda to mould peoples thoughts regarding his policies and himself; developing what is known as the “cult of the great leader” that presented Stalin as a father of the nation; “For us, Stalin was an idol”
Obama 101,
The first five year plan entailed the re-nationalization of all land and industry, meaning the luxury of consumer goods was lost and Russians lost their individuality (same clothes, cars etc.), and the collectivization of farming, meaning private farming was abolished and the peasantry were forced to farm on organized, government owned farms – no longer could they make a profit off their work.
Obama 101
Stalin continued Lenin’s previous tirade of fear and intimidation, using the NKVD, his secret police, to enforce obedience. “Show trials” (public persecution) were used to show punishment in action, and between 1936-38 used the NKVD to purge as much opposition as possible, with Soviet records stating that during 1937-38, 681,692 people were executed – averaging 1,000 brutal executions a day
And it'll be a cold day in hell before we let some left wing extremists destroy this party like the right wing extremists are doing to the GOP.25BobVADemocratHawk on November 10, 2009 at 03:17 PM
I second that!
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Esmeralda
That'll piss off a few of the "Regular 8" like Pammy, DoPeyD and Johne Piss Pants.
BTW, what happened to Marvelous Marvin and his wondrous bad of tricks?
BTW, what happened to Marvelous Marvin and his wondrous bad of tricks?
90Harpo_TheWatchman
He Benji'ed himself out.
Where is greggy and pammy??
Did greggy open that kettle of fish again and pass out?
Oh look,
We have Dufus-Dan pretending he understands socialism.
Stick with something you know, Dufus.
Weren't you the "boss" at a McDonald's before you retired? Maybe you should stick with flipping burgers, Dufus.
National Overview:
* Temperature Highlights - October
* The average October temperature of 50.8°F was 4.0°F below the 20th Century average and ranked as the 3rd coolest based on preliminary data.
* For the nation as a whole, it was the third coolest October on record. The month was marked by an active weather pattern that reinforced unseasonably cold air behind a series of cold fronts. Temperatures were below normal in eight of the nation's nine climate regions, and of the nine, five were much below normal. Only the Southeast climate region had near normal temperatures for October.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=national&year=2009&month=10&submitted=Get+Report
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Harpo_TheWatchman on November 10, 2009 at 09:10 PM
I think Marvin had some of that fish.
Confessions of an ObamaCare Backer
A liberal explains the political calculus.
The typical argument for ObamaCare is that it will offer better medical care for everyone and cost less to do it, but occasionally a supporter lets the mask slip and reveals the real political motivation. So let's give credit to John Cassidy, part of the left-wing stable at the New Yorker, who wrote last week on its Web site that "it's important to be clear about what the reform amounts to."
Mr. Cassidy is more honest than the politicians whose dishonesty he supports. "The U.S. government is making a costly and open-ended commitment," he writes. "Let's not pretend that it isn't a big deal, or that it will be self-financing, or that it will work out exactly as planned. It won't. What is really unfolding, I suspect, is the scenario that many conservatives feared. The Obama Administration . . . is creating a new entitlement program, which, once established, will be virtually impossible to rescind."
Why are they doing it? Because, according to Mr. Cassidy, ObamaCare serves the twin goals of "making the United States a more equitable country" and furthering the Democrats' "political calculus." In other words, the purpose is to further redistribute income by putting health care further under government control, and in the process making the middle class more dependent on government. As the party of government, Democrats will benefit over the long run.
This explains why Nancy Pelosi is willing to risk the seats of so many Blue Dog Democrats by forcing such an unpopular bill through Congress on a narrow, partisan vote: You have to break a few eggs to make a permanent welfare state. As Mr. Cassidy concludes, "Putting on my amateur historian's cap, I might even claim that some subterfuge is historically necessary to get great reforms enacted."
No wonder many Americans are upset. They know they are being lied to about ObamaCare, and they know they are going to be stuck with the bill.
I notice that Pelosi's tits have been hanging really low lately. That usually means rain.
Good Morning MoonBatz!!!
http://www.pigazette.com/Pigraphics/Priority%20A%20OR%20B.jpg
QUOTABLE QUOTES
"You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."
– Adrian Rogers, 1931
TODAY IN HISTORY
1885 A great warrior, General George S. Patton, marches into the world.
"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't.”
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
TODAY IN HISTORY
2004 Rational adults from sea to shining sea and around the world celebrate when a Terrorist rat bastard in dirty dish towel headgear, Yasser Arafat, finally dies.
Economic Policy:
Grade: F. Blaming Bush for all of America’s economic woes, Barry has run up a $1.4 trillion annual deficit, and that number is destined to get much, much, bigger, when all the two-fisted spending bills kick in, in a couple of years. Leaving nothing to chance, he’s done more than squander YOUR money. He has pissed away your kids’ money, your grandchildren’s money, and your great grandchildren’s money.
The first terrorist attack (other than that muslim slug who gun down those Army recruiters) on American soil since 9/11 and what is Erkele's solution? Don't call it terrorism.
: 'No faith justifies' Fort Hood rampage
By S.A. Miller
Sen. Jim DeMint says Washington politicians are like fruit on the vine: the longer they hang around, the more rotten they get.
The South Carolina Republican - hearkening back to the days of the party's "Contract with America" - on Tuesday offered a fix to the corrupting influence of "permanent politicians," introducing an amendment to the Constitution that would limit Senate members to three six-year terms and House members to three two-year terms.
"As long as members have the chance to spend their lives in Washington, their interests will always skew toward spending taxpayer dollars to buy off special interests, covering over corruption in the bureaucracy, fundraising, relationship building among lobbyists, and trading favors for pork - in short, amassing their own power," said Mr. DeMint, who is running for a second term next year.
Senate leaders and longtime Washington watchdogs said Mr. DeMint's bill had a zero chance of becoming law, mostly because of a general lack of interest and the high hurdles to amending the Constitution.
"It's a great issue to talk about, but it's not going to happen," said Sen. Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, the Democratic majority's second-highest ranking leader.
Mr. Durbin said he didn't know whether the bill would even get a vote.
Term limits have not been a cause celebre on Capitol Hill since the issue featured prominently in the "Contract with America" that helped the Republican Party win control of Congress in 1994. House Republicans brought three versions of constitutional amendments for term limits to the floor in 1995 and each failed to win the two-thirds majority needed to pass.
Melanie Sloan, executive director of the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW), disagrees with Mr. DeMint's premise that politicians get more corrupt the longer they serve.
"There are plenty of bad members who have been there a short time and plenty of bad members who have been there a long time," she said. "Length of service just isn't telling enough. It doesn't make a great member or a terrible member."
Mrs. Sloan said the amendment appeared to be more about Mr. DeMint making a statement than about changing the Constitution.
DeMint spokesman Wesley Denton said the bill will succeed if the American public get behind it and force lawmakers to put it to a vote.
It takes a two-thirds vote of approval in both chambers to pass a constitutional amendment and then it must be ratified by three-fourths of the states. The last one to succeed - the 27th Amendment that delays pay raises for members of Congress until after the next election - was proposed in 1789 as part of the Bill of Rights but was not ratified by the states until 1992.
Despite the long odds, Mr. DeMint's bill picked up two Republican cosponsors: Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, who is running for a second term next year and has pledged to not seek a third, and Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas, who is in her third full term but next year is running for governor.
American Bitch Hillary Clinton scrubs Ronald Reagan from history
Telegraph.co.ul
By Nile Gardiner
It’s bad enough that President Obama could not be bothered to attend the celebrations marking the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall. But Hillary Clinton’s refusal to even acknowledge the role played by Ronald Reagan in the Wall’s demise as well as the downfall of Communism was highly insulting towards one of the greatest figures of our time, and reeked of petty and partisan mean-spiritedness.
The Secretary of State’s remarks yesterday in Berlin completely erased from history the huge contribution played not only by President Reagan but also by the United States in confronting the Soviet Empire. In her speech she applauded half of Europe, but could not bring herself to thank those Americans who bravely served their country and in many cases laid down their lives in defeating Communism, under Reagan’s leadership.
Here is what Clinton said in Berlin on behalf of the Obama administration:
“We remember the allies who conducted the largest humanitarian airlift in history, completing more than a quarter million flights to sustain the people of West Berlin. We remember the Poles – (applause) – who waged a campaign for liberty that began with a strike in the shipyards of Gdansk and ended by shattering a system of tyranny. We remember a Polish Pope who spoke out for the aspirations of people across Europe and the world. (Applause.) We remember the people of the Baltics who joined hands across their lands and helped to break the chains that held their nations captive. We remember the students of Prague who propelled a dissident playwright from a jail cell to the presidency of a free republic. And tonight, we remember the Germans on both sides of the wall, but particularly the Germans in the East who stood up and finally were able to say, “No more. Freedom is our birthright and we will take it by our own hands.”
Incredibly, Clinton ended her remarks, with a tribute not to the tens of millions of victims of Communism, but to Barack Obama!
“I am deeply honored to introduce now a message from someone who represents the fall of different kinds of walls – of walls of discrimination, of stereotype, of character, the walls that too often are inside minds and hearts. Let me introduce a message from President Barack Obama.”
Hillary Clinton would do well to learn from Margaret Thatcher, a great friend of the United States, whom I had the privilege of working for in her private office. Like Ronald Reagan she is a statesman who understands that evil must be confronted and defeated, and a true leader who believes in the greatness of America as a force for good on the world stage.
As Lady Thatcher observed in her eulogy to Reagan at his funeral service at the National Cathedral in Washington in June 2004:
“We live today in the world that Ronald Reagan began to reshape… It is a very different world, with different challenges and new dangers. All in all, however, it is one of greater freedom and prosperity, one more hopeful than the world he inherited on becoming president. .. With the lever of American patriotism, he lifted up the world. And so today, the world – in Prague, in Budapest, in Warsaw and Sofia, in Bucharest, in Kiev, and in Moscow itself, the world mourns the passing of the great liberator and echoes his prayer: God bless America.”
These were the words that Clinton should have echoed in front of the Brandenburg Gate – a recognition of President Reagan’s huge contribution to the advancement of freedom in Europe and across the world.
U.S. tracked Fort Hood suspect before shooting
Exchanges with radical cleric detected but probe was dropped, sources say
By David Johnston and Scott Shane
updated 4:52 p.m. PT, Mon., Nov . 9, 2009
excerpted:
WASHINGTON - Intelligence agencies intercepted communications last year and earlier this year between Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, who is accused of shooting to death 13 people at Fort Hood, Tex., and a radical cleric in Yemen known for his incendiary anti-American teachings.
*snip*
The communications, the subject of an inquiry by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and Army investigators, provide the first indication that Maj. Hasan was in direct communication with the cleric, who on Monday praised Maj. Hasan on his Web site, saying the Army psychiatrist “did the right thing” in attacking soldiers preparing to deploy to Afghanistan and Iraq.
*snip*
‘He is a man of conscience’
Mr. Awlaki, an American citizen born in New Mexico to Yemeni parents, wrote on Monday on his English-language website that Mr. Hasan was “a hero.” The cleric said, “He is a man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people.”
He added, “The only way a Muslim could Islamically justify serving as a soldier in the U.S. Army is if his intention is to follow the footsteps of men like Nidal.”
Oh yes, the Moonbatz will certainly blame this on bush, but why didn´t any of BarryO´s Czar do anything? Janet? DO YOU FRIGGIN HEAR ME? Ya Slacker!
Officials: U.S. Army Told of Hasan's Contacts with al Qaeda
Army Major in Fort Hood Massacre Used 'Electronic Means' to Connect with Terrorists
By RICHARD ESPOSITO, MATTHEW COLE and BRIAN ROSS
Nov. 9, 2009
U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan was attempting to make contact with an individual associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News.
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Army knew suspected Fort Hood gunman had contact with al Qaeda recruiter.
According to the officials, the Army was informed of Hasan's contact, but it is unclear what, if anything, the Army did in response.
Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-MI), the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, said that he requested the CIA and other intelligence agencies brief the committee on what was known, if anything, about Hasan by the U.S. intelligence community, only to be refused.
In response, Hoekstra issued a document preservation request to four intelligence agencies. The letter, dated November 7th, was sent to directors Dennis Blair (DNI), Robert Mueller (FBI), Lt. Gen Keith Alexander (NSA) and Leon Panetta (CIA).
Hoekstra said he is "absolutely furious" that the house intel committee has been refused an intelligence briefing by the DNI or CIA on Hasan's attempt to reach out to al Qaeda, as first reported by ABC News.
"This is a law enforcement investigation, in which other agencies—not the CIA—have the lead," CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano said in a response to ABC News. " Any suggestion that the CIA refused to brief Congress is incorrect."
Ya BarryO´s Czars are really screwing up now, I wonder if this will turn into "BarryGate"?
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**Frosty** on November 11, 2009 at 05:33 AM
What do you expect from a wideassed liberal harpy?
It's too bad that Virgina only offers a condemned man only 2 choices for the method of execution. Lethal injection or the electric chair. A 3rd choice should be death by being fed into a wood chipper. That last method should be mandatory.
D.C. sniper's execution met with grief, bitterness
November 11, 2009 3:37 a.m. EST
Jarratt, Virginia (CNN) -- Justice fell short with the execution of Washington-area sniper John Allen Muhammad, one of his victims' survivors said after witnessing his death by lethal injection.
Muhammad died silently Tuesday night in a Virginia prison death chamber filled with lawyers, lawmen and his victims' survivors.
114PatrickO on November 11, 2009 at 07:07 AM
you've been watching too may SAW movies.
(another sock puppet!)
thanks, vets.
You were called to freedom, brothers and sisters; only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for self-indulgence, but through love become slaves to one another. For the whole law is summed up in a single commandment, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."
- Galatians 5:13-14
enjoy the day, everyone. (another 70 degree day here in SE OH...can you say laundry hung on the line?)
But Hillary Clinton’s refusal to even acknowledge the role played by Ronald Reagan in the Wall’s demise as well as the downfall of Communism was highly insulting towards one of the greatest figures of our time, and reeked of petty and partisan mean-spiritedness.
I am so sick of these sick blind Repugs worshipping at the alter of Reagan to this day.
This from an article:
"I constantly see Reagan lovers talk about the man as if he was the "second coming of Christ."
The truth is simply this.....Reagan NEVER carried a balance budget at any time during his 8 years in the White House. His deficit spending would have been much, much larger than it was if he hadn't borrowed from the Social Security Trust Fund. And trust me, he borrowed billions and billions of dollars that were never paid back....
Also, "presidential platitude" didn't bring the Cold War to an end all by himself. The Berlin Wall and the fall of communism in East Germany & points east, including the Soviet Union, was on its death bed long before Reagan made his historic speech saying "Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall."
If you don't believe me, go read Jerry Ford's book that came out a short time after Ford's death...Ford, a fellow Republican of Reagan's, tells several interesting stories about you know who!
When talking about the Reagan years economically, it should be pointed out that the economy was in much better shape during the Clinton years than the Reagan years.....
For example, the GDP grew at a much faster rate under William Jefferson, than under Reagan. Not only that, Clinton left office with a budget surplus which Reagan never had....
If Reagan had anything going for him, it was the fact that he made people feel good about themselves.......sort of a FDR approach of the 1980's......
(AND THEN THEY TALK ABOUT OUR LOOKING AT OBAMA AS 'THE ONE'. SHEESH, THEY WANT THIS DUFUS ON A COIN!)
perhaps on Sunday, at 6:00PM you can all send your vibes to this vigil!
pray for senator lieberman !
When: Sunday, November 15 at 6:00 p.m.
Where: Stamford High School (in Lieberman’s neighborhood), 55 Strawberry Hill Avenue, Stamford, CT [Google Map Directions]
Why: Pray for Senator Lieberman: Call on him to stand up for national health care reform that includes a strong public option
Please join people from across Connecticut – representing all walks of life and all faith traditions. Remind Senator Lieberman that we are united in our call for quality, affordable health care we can count on!
“Our various faith traditions and our various experiences as pastors, rabbis, priests, imams and people of faith from all walks of life have taught us that no one should be left behind in receiving care that heals the body and quiets the mind.”
– Efrain Agosto, Academic Dean, Hartford Seminary
(ps, for those of you who are not familiar with Stamford, it is New York City Bedroom for the very wealthy. Joe likes to stay close to where the money is. all those wealthy CEO's to cozy up to. When they are out mowing their lawns? hahaha )
Morning Essie,
It's going to be another warm one here too. It must be that pesky Repbulican Global Warming.
It's 36 right now and high clouds are expected later today.
Reagan was a good man there pammy.
It is great that he told Russia "Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall."
Obama will be remembered saying, "wall, hey, that's an idea....Axlerod, we need a wall!!"
Esmeralda on November 11, 2009 at 07:47 AM
No. I have not seen those movies. The preview alone are enough to convince me to avoid them. I did once see a movie call Fargo where they fed a guy into a wood chipper which to me would be a fitting punishment for a mass murderer like this Muhammad creep.
Obama will be remembered saying, "wall, hey, that's an idea....Axlerod, we need a wall!!"
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AZCactusDanTheMan on November 11, 2009 at 08:20 AM
Perhaps a wall is what we need to build around Afghanistan. The President is now faced with a decision he must make soon. Does he withdraw all of our troops from that God forsaken place or does he reinforce them? If he does the 2nd choice he must put in the maximum.
108The_Evil_Dr*Burd on November 11, 2009 at 05:39 AM
Those communications happened LAST YEAR BUNGHOLE,That would fall on bushes watch again!!
PatrickO on November 11, 2009 at 08:22 AM
you shouldn't watch shows that put those kinds of thoughts in your mind.
as a man thinks, so he is.
remove hate, anger, jealousy, war from your thoughts.
Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things. Philippians 4:8
The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Galatians 5:22
ronnie reegan was a crappy movie actor as well as a crappy president. Let his memory along with teh repuke party. Maybe we should bury hannity on top of him when he dies. The two could skip off into the sunset in hell together.
It doesn't matter who was president and when. That they left this guy in the army was not good. if he was known to be in contact with terrorist clerics he should have been thrown out of the US army.
Hey, Obama can be remembered for the Americans now being held in Iran
.............................., wait,
...Carter has that prize.
Off to work.
9Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the sons of God. Matthew 5:1-12.
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peaceman on November 11, 2009 at 08:30 AM
bunghole? ok ya wornout fairy, it said moths ago, how long has chairman zero been in office? and prove that I am wrong, with a link please.
128PatrickO
The liberals have been busy tearing apart the FBI and CIA.
The end result will be more Americans killed.
Morning Dr Burd.
Where did pammy run away to?
it don't come easy.
obama is fighting for progressive agendas on many fronts. the fights are tough and anxiety provoking because they are about important issues. things like health care that matter to real people. the forces of greed and bullshit know they are losing their whole anti-government ideological fog they laid over the american people back in the reagan years. people are realizing that they need an effective government to raise children and live in a safe secular democratic society and combined with the changing ethnic makeup of the country....the right wing agenda is dying off....but it will fight hard against the light so be tough and push our agenda day in and day out.
Great, the troll, who NEVER provides a link to anything is now demanding links from other people?
The communications were gathered by investigators beginning in December 2008 and continuing into early this year.
Blame Game Erupts Over Alleged Fort Hood Shooter
Chimpy broke the CIA AND the FBI.
Chimpy broke the Military.
Chimpy broke the economy.
Chimpy broke EVERYTHING!
Oh yeah, Gorbechev was shivering in his boots, and ran right out and took down the wall!
You crazy old fool. Reagan had dementia most of his administration. Soviet Union was on the brink of collapse financially for years. Reagan did nothing, but start the sweep to Economic disaster here, that Clinton had to clean up !
You must have LOVED the part where Reagan was looking at disarming the US of Nukes and other WMDS, calling on Gorbechev to join him.
"William F. Buckley agreed, as Daniel McCarthy writes in a review for the January American Conservative of his posthumous book, The Reagan I Knew:
“What I [once] said. . . was that Reagan would, if he had to, pull the nuclear trigger,” writes Buckley. “Twenty years after saying that. . . in the presence of the man I was talking about, I changed my mind.” Reagan would not have unleashed a nuclear holocaust, even in retaliation.
How about the truth about Reagan and those illegals in your back yard?
"Reagan actually signed the law that authorized the last amnesty, back in 1986. Romney deals with this small difficulty by declaring, "Reagan saw it. It didn't work." He offers no evidence that Reagan had a change of heart about amnesty, and learning from experience was not something Reagan was known for. The proper cliché is McCain's: "Ronald Reagan came with an unshakeable set of principles." And—pointedly—"he would not approve of someone who changes their positions depending on what the year is."
Would Reagan "walk out of" Iraq? Far from clear. He scurried out of Lebanon fast enough after things got hot there in 1984. During the Reagan years, the United States was actually pro-Iraq in its war against Iran, although we also sold weapons to Iran in order to raise money for a terrorist war we were secretly financing in Nicaragua, while denouncing terrorism. It's hard to find any "unshakeable set of principles" in this mess.
McCain declared in Wednesday's debate that he would appoint Supreme Court justices like John Roberts and Sam Alito—that is, reliable conservatives. Romney characteristically upped the ante: "I would approve justices like Roberts and Alito, Scalia and Thomas." Roberts and Alito were appointed by George W. Bush, and Clarence Thomas was appointed by his father. Reagan did appoint Antonin Scalia, but he also appointed Sandra Day O'Connor, an unbending pragmatist who postponed the conservative revolution in constitutional law for a generation.
But the biggest fairy tale about Reagan is the most central one: about taxes and spending.
Obama can be remembered for the Americans now being held in Iran
.............................., wait,
...Carter has that prize.
NO!!!!---------Reagan made a deal with Iran NOT to release those prisoners until after he was elected, so that the release would not get credited to Carter and Carter would win the election!
Don't they have any REAL news in Tucson, AZ???????
You Right Wing Asshat!
Run Away?????? From YOU, crazy fat old man?
Not hardly. How many times have I told you I will fly into AZ airport, and meet you face to face anytime you can waddle down to meet me!
And then I will say to your face, what I say to you here------You are a sick, Extreme fringe, Right Wing pretend Christian who no morals, no ethics, no self pride, no honor. That you are NOT a REAL man. That you have an IQ the size of a fly. You talk about your caring for Veterans----yet vote for the side that has hurt them the most. You vote for the side that killed 4300 of our boys for Lies, and don't even care.
So you tell me when, Lardass, and I will be there !!!
Alex for $200.00,
Things a STALKER would say,
Not hardly. How many times have I told you I will fly into AZ airport, and meet you face to face anytime you can waddle down to meet me!
DOO-PEE,
Nancy Pelosi
CIA are LIARS.
We must stop the FBI from spying on Americans,
last 8 years.
Who has been in CHARGE of the House intel and the Senate intel committee's for the last 2 years ??
Alex for $200.00,
"Not hardly. How many times have I told you I will fly into AZ airport, and meet you face to face anytime you can waddle down to meet me!"
Things a STALKER would say?
WASHINGTON - Intelligence agencies intercepted communications last year and earlier this year between Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan,
107The_Evil_Dr*Burd on November 11, 2009 at 05:35 AM
your post BUNGHOLE!
A guy called Randi Rhodes today and said he was with military intelligence in Iraq and Afghanistan. He said that they weren't allowed to operate in the US. They have to turn everything over to the FBI.
He said something interesting about listening in on our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. They listened in on our troops and picked up all kinds of insults about Muslims and how happy they are to kill them and that they are a bunch of jerks.
This is probably the same shit that Hasan got here in the US. No wonder he bought a gun. This Hasan thing falls squarely on chimp and cheney who allowed our troops to diss Muslims just like savage, limpballs, hannity, drudge, coldsore, cunningham and yatayatayata.
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