Thanksgiving Open Thread
Happy Thanksgiving.
White House Butlers Ron Guy, left, and Von Everett, set the table in the Cabinet Room of the White House. Photo by Pete Souza.
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Happy Thanksgiving, Everyone!
"No weapon forged against you will prevail, and you will refute every tongue that accuses you. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and this is their vindication from me," declares the LORD.
— Isaiah 54:17
Psalm 107:1 —
Give thanks to the Lord, for he is good;
his love endures forever.
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"O Thou who has given us so much, mercifully grant us one more thing: a grateful heart."
— George Herbert
IT MIGHT BE, THAT THE ONLY THING THAT MIGHT MAKE NEW YORK CITY VULNERABLE TO ANY KIND OF ATTACK DURING THE TRIAL AGAINST 9/11 PERPETRATORS’, MIGHT BE IF CHENEY IS IN TOWN WHEN THE TRIAL HAPPENS, SPEAKING.
Has-been-leader, Richard Cheney, might as well have publicized al-Qaeda’s anti-American propaganda over America’s trial against terrorists in New York City for the group rather than have made his own show-trial against America’s Democratic leadership by his saying in public that it is America’s show-trial.
On Nov 13, 2009, Reuters reported Tom Malinowski of Human Rights Watch saying, "Bringing these men to justice in a legitimate system will allow the world to focus at long last on the atrocities they are accused of committing against us, rather than on how we have treated them."
Any anti-American propaganda, illegitimately spread from this trial, might be over the waterboarding of terrorism suspects and the mismanagement of Gitmo’ where detainee’s were held without trial that Cheney had a decision in doing. Both are subjects that extremists might infer that America still does not take accountability for under U.S. Law during the trial, even when they can see America does and is now trying to show the world that America does.
THERE IS ‘NOTHING’ WRONG WITH AMERICA ‘SHOWING’ THE WORLD, ON PURPOSE, THAT WE CARE ABOUT JUSTICE AND LAW THROUGH THIS TRIAL, ESPECIALLY, WHILE IN THE PROCESS OF CLOSING BUSH AND CHENEY’S GUANTANAMO BAY.
After Cheney lobbied a crazy agenda that America would need to sacrifice American principles in our justice system and in the Government’s military management in order to fight terrorism, I see America showing terrorism groups and the rest of the world that America is not afraid to be who we really are through this trial as a winning assertive stand.
So I am thankful that the Obama Administration is exercising the Freedom to manage this type of trial to fight terrorism in America’s favor this Thanksgiving. (All while knowing, that if by a critics chance of make believe, these terrorists are found ‘innocent’, other charges will be brought and if it is humanly possible that they could be found innocent then too, then, they would be held for military trial.)
--------------"HAPPY TURKEY DAY EVERYBODY"--------------
Looks like there is a few on here talking Turkey.
The recent Internet chatter about cooling led NOAA's climate data center to re-examine its temperature data. It found no COOLING TREND.
"The last 10 years are the warmest 10-year period of the modern record," said NOAA climate monitoring chief Deke Arndt. "Even if you analyze the trend during that 10 years, the trend is actually positive, which means warming."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091026/ap_on_sc/us_sci_global_cooling
Happy Turkey Day, all.
The American people have an anger about the growth of the deficit because they’re not getting anything for it. Think Progress, 11-24-09
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On a conference call today, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) explained how she plans to reconcile deficit complaints with the need to pass an adequate jobs bill:
"We’re never going to decrease the deficit until we create jobs, bring revenue into the Treasury, stimulate the economy so we have growth.
We have to shed any weakness that anybody may have about not wanting to be confrontational on this subject for fear that we’d be labeled not sensitive to the deficit.
… The American people have an anger about the growth of the deficit because they’re not getting anything for it. …
So if somebody has the idea that the percentage of GDP of what our national debt is will go up a bit, but they will now — and their neighbors and their children — will have jobs, I think they could absorb that. … If we pull our punch, as they did in the mid-30’s, we shouldn’t be surprised if history repeats itself.
During the Depression, President Roosevelt’s policies brought the unemployment rate down to 14 percent, from 24 percent, by 1937. But then, as Paul Krugman explained, Roosevelt “mistakenly heeded the advice of his own era’s deficit worriers. He sharply reduced government spending, among other things cutting the Works Progress Administration in half, and also raised taxes. The result was a severe recession, and a steep fall in private investment.” The Wonk Room has more.
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/24/pelosi-job-punch/
I've always trusted the Democratic leadership in Peoples House to get the vibe in the country much better than those in the Old Boys Club in the Senate. The American people have always been ready to sacrifice for the right thing.
Continuing the status quo and failed conservative economic "wisdom" could be an additional disaster on top of the Bush Disaster. There is a way to end this Great Depression and there is a way to prolong it.
We must "invest" in our future not worry about the deficits that the Republicans racked up doing all kinds of stupid things in the past...and which continue to be a drain on our recovery if we let them. The Republicans knew they could not sustain their power base for long, so they left us with this legacy of debt on purpose to divert us from constructing meaningful charge.
We must not allow them to obstruct our mandate and mission.
Why are we allowing these incompetents to tell us we are wrong when it is they who have been proven dreadfully wrong?
It's time to be bold not afraid. We must sacrifice now for the common good and our children's future. It is after all the American way. And it's what made us strong and an innovative nation...before the conservatives got ahold of our fears.
Catch you all tomorrow. Have a good day with your families and friends.
Ed Begley Jr Goes Vocal About Global Warming
November 26th, 2009 - 8:33 pm ICT by GD -
By Madhuri Dey
Nov. 26, (THAINDIAN NEWS) Ed Begley Jr. went very vocal on the show on Fox News with Stuart Varney. He had been asked by the host if he thought that the idea of global warming is a hoax, as is the idea that various spam mails circulating around the world are trying to prove. He was emphatic in his denial of anything that might regard the pressing environmental issue as a hoax. He said that there might be skeptics who regard the magnitude of the problem, but there is no way anyone can deny the existence of the issue.
Begley is well known for his lifestyle, which is predominantly painted in the color green. He is primarily an actor who appeared in the series “St. Elsewhere” and the show “Not Evil Just Wrong.” He was apparently so influenced by Al Gore’s steps against global warming that he turned into a vegan. On the show with Stuart Varney, the host asked him what he thought of the hacked emails that claim that global warming is nothing but a hoax. In reply, Begley behaved like the true blue believer, refusing to let Varney tackle him with repeated questions.
Begley kept saying that all the facts about global warming has been “peer reviewed” and hence is absolutely authentic. It was surprising how, instead of citing any real point to back up his supposition, he kept parroting these two words. Towards the end of the show, he started shouting and accusing the host of being an enemy of the people and an anti-environmentalist. The show somewhat took a very confusing stance because of the claims.
I'm not surprised. It's not unlike what would happen if you gave a credit card to a teenager in a socialist country.
Posted by the German burd Brain
Well, you should know, ther German burd ! How did your adopted kids do with their credit cards in that Socialist nation of your's?
How do you enjoy all those great benefits you get, in exchange for a bit more taxes than the US collects here? You seem to like it enough to stay there, so I don't understand why OUR country is any business of your's, or what we pay or what we choose to do.
Your German peers sure love Obama, don't they? I am sure you are much more discreet about dissing him over there, than on here. They would think you are absolutely uninformed, and not too bright ! Just like we do here !
Statement from Professor Phil Jones, Head of the Climatic Research Unit, University of East Anglia.
In the frenzy of the past few days, the most vital issue is being overshadowed: we face enormous challenges ahead if we are to continue to live on this planet.
One has to wonder if it is a coincidence that this email correspondence has been stolen and published at this time. This may be a concerted attempt to put a question mark over the science of climate change in the run-up to the Copenhagen talks.
That the world is warming is based on a range of sources: not only temperature records but other indicators such as sea level rise, glacier retreat and less Arctic sea ice.
Our global temperature series tallies with those of other, completely independent, groups of scientists working for NASA and the National Climate Data Center in the United States, among others. Even if you were to ignore our findings, theirs show the same results. The facts speak for themselves; there is no need for anyone to manipulate them.
We have been bombarded by Freedom of Information requests to release the temperature data that are provided to us by meteorological services around the world via a large network of weather stations. This information is not ours to give without the permission of the meteorological services involved. We have responded to these Freedom of Information requests appropriately and with the knowledge and guidance of the Information Commissioner.
We have stated that we hope to gain permission from each of these services to publish their data in the future and we are in the process of doing so.
My colleagues and I accept that some of the published emails do not read well. I regret any upset or confusion caused as a result. Some were clearly written in the heat of the moment, others use colloquialisms frequently used between close colleagues.
We are, and have always been, scrupulous in ensuring that our science publications are robust and honest.
Hi global warming. Hope you have a great turkey day today.
Just finished running out for a giant Edible Bouquet, peeled 10 lbs potatoes, 4 turnips, and have my own turkey cooking, even though we eat at my sister's later this afternoon. I like to have hot turkey sandwiches for dinner on Friday.
You have a wonderful day, and give Cindy a hug for me.
CRU statement
Recently thousands of files and emails illegally obtained from a research server at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have been posted on various sites on the web. The emails relate to messages received or sent by the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) over the period 1996-2009.
A selection of these emails have been taken out of context and misinterpreted as evidence that CRU has manipulated climate data to present an unrealistic picture of global warming.
This conclusion is entirely unfounded and the evidence from CRU research is entirely consistent with independent evidence assembled by various research groups around the world.
There is excellent agreement on the course of temperature change since 1881 between the data set that we contribute to (HadCRUT3) and two other, independent analyses of worldwide temperature measurements. There are no statistically significant differences between the warming trends in the three series since the start of the 20th century. The three independent global temperature data series have been assembled by:
• CRU and the Met Office Hadley Centre (HadCRUT3) in the UK.
• The National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) in Asheville, NC, USA.
• The Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS), part of the National Aeronautic and Space Administration (NASA) in New York.
The warming shown by the HadCRUT3 series between the averages of the two periods (1850-99 and 2001-2005) was 0.76±0.19°C, and this is corroborated by the other two data sets.
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its 4th Assessment Report (AR4) published in 2007 concluded that the warming of the climate system was unequivocal. This conclusion was based not only on the observational temperature record, although this is the key piece of evidence, but on multiple strands of evidence. These factors include: long-term retreat of glaciers in most alpine regions of the world; reductions in the area of the Northern Hemisphere (NH) snow cover during the spring season; reductions in the length of the freeze season in many NH rivers and lakes; reduction in Arctic sea-ice extent in all seasons, but especially in the summer; increases in global average sea level since the 19th century; increases in the heat content of the ocean and warming of temperatures in the lower part of the atmosphere since the late 1950s.
CRU has also been involved in reconstructions of temperature (primarily for the Northern Hemisphere) from proxy data (non-instrumental sources such as tree rings, ice cores, corals and documentary records). Similar temperature reconstructions have been developed by numerous other groups around the world. The level of uncertainty in this indirect evidence for temperature change is much greater than for the picture of temperature change shown by the instrumental data. But different reconstructions of temperature change over a longer period, produced by different researchers using different methods, show essentially the same picture of highly unusual warmth across the NH during the 20th century. The principal conclusion from these studies (summarized in IPCC AR4) is that the second half of the 20th century was very likely (90% probable) warmer than any other 50-year period in the last 500 years and likely (66% probable) the warmest in the past 1300 years.
One particular, illegally obtained, email relates to the preparation of a figure for the WMO Statement on the Status of the Global Climate in 1999. This email referred to a “trick” of adding recent instrumental data to the end of temperature reconstructions that were based on proxy data. The requirement for the WMO Statement was for up-to-date evidence showing how temperatures may have changed over the last 1000 years. To produce temperature series that were completely up-to-date (i.e. through to 1999) it was necessary to combine the temperature reconstructions with the instrumental record, because the temperature reconstructions from proxy data ended many years earlier whereas the instrumental record is updated every month. The use of the word “trick” was not intended to imply any deception.
Phil Jones comments further: “One of the three temperature reconstructions was based entirely on a particular set of tree-ring data that shows a strong correlation with temperature from the 19th century through to the mid-20th century, but does not show a realistic trend of temperature after 1960. This is well known and is called the ‘decline’ or ‘divergence’. The use of the term ‘hiding the decline’ was in an email written in haste. CRU has not sought to hide the decline. Indeed, CRU has published a number of articles that both illustrate, and discuss the implications of, this recent tree-ring decline, including the article that is listed in the legend of the WMO Statement figure. It is because of this trend in these tree-ring data that we know does not represent temperature change that I only show this series up to 1960 in the WMO Statement.”
The ‘decline’ in this set of tree-ring data should not be taken to mean that there is any problem with the instrumental temperature data. As for the tree-ring decline, various manifestations of this phenomenon have been discussed by numerous authors, and its implications are clearly signposted in Chapter 6 of the IPCC AR4 report.
Included here is a copy of the figure used in the WMO statement, together with an alternative version where the climate reconstructions and the instrumental temperatures are shown separately
Thats it, I´m leaving this sick bunch of perverts and moving to Roswell, at least they might take me serious.
Irish church obsessively hid child abuse - report
By Andras Gergely in Dublin From: Reuters November 27, 2009 4:14AM
What are these?
ROMAN Catholic archbishops in Dublin obsessively covered up widespread sexual abuse of children by priests until the mid-1990s, a report commissioned by the Irish government said today.
One priest admitted abusing more than 100 children. Another said he had abused every two weeks for over 25 years, it said.
All archbishops in charge over the 1975-2004 period covered by the inquiry were aware of some complaints and the archdiocese was pre-occupied with protecting the reputation of the Church over and above protecting children's welfare, the report said.
It said the Church was "obsessively" concerned with secrecy and operated a policy of "don't ask, don't tell" about abuse.
"Unfortunately, it may be that the very prominent role which the Church has played in Irish life is the very reason why abuses by a minority of its members were allowed to go unchecked," it said.
The report, designed to show how the Church and state responded to charges of abusing children, said a representative sample of 46 priests against whom complaints were levelled at made it "abundantly clear" that abuse was widespread.
The inquiry, which came six months after a similarly damning report about Church-run industrial and reform schools, also accused state officials of abetting the cover-up.
The government acknowledged the errors of state agencies mentioned in the report, and Justice Minister Dermot Ahern told a news conference of his revulsion at the findings.
"REVULSION"
"I read the report as justice minister. But on a human level - as a father and as a member of this community - I felt a growing sense of revulsion and anger," Ahern said.
"Revulsion at the horrible evil acts committed against children. Anger at how those children were then dealt with and how often abusers were left free to abuse."
The Church in Ireland has been plagued by sex scandals for at least two decades. The disclosures in May of floggings, slave labour and gang rape in much of Ireland's now defunct system of industrial and reform schools earlier in the 20th century shamed Ireland and further eroded the Church's moral authority.
"The Dublin Archdiocese's pre-occupations in dealing with cases of child sexual abuse, at least until the mid-1990s, were the maintenance of secrecy, the avoidance of scandal, the protection of the reputation of the Church, and the preservation of its assets," today's report said.
"All other considerations, including the welfare of children and justice for victims, were subordinated to these priorities," added the report, which was published by the Justice Ministry.
More than twice as many complaints related to boys than girls, but the report also said it was "risible" when an archbishop defended one case by saying it arose merely from a priest's "'wonderment' about the female anatomy."
Similar abuse cover-up charges have dogged the Catholic Church in other countries, especially the United States. Seven dioceses there have filed for bankruptcy protection to shield themselves from law suits by abuse victims.
Pope Benedict has condemned sexual abuse by clergy and said wayward priests should be brought to justice. He met abuse victims during his 2008 visit to the US.
Abuse cases have also been reported elsewhere, notably in Australia, Austria, Britain, Canada, France and Poland.
"What is of the utmost importance now is that we continue to pursue relentlessly the perpetrators of abuse to bring them to the justice they deserve," Ahern said.
Maeve Lewis, executive director of victims' group One in Four, said: "We ask the minister of justice to extend the investigations to all archdioceses in the country."
Work on the latest report, begun in 2006, finished months ago but publication was delayed until the High Court cleared it last week with some details removed because they could jeopardise criminal proceedings.
Additional reporting by Padraic Halpin, Antonella Ciancio and Tom Heneghan
Rudd to meet Obama
From: AAP November 26, 2009 3:01PM
KEVIN Rudd will meet US president Barack Obama in Washington on Monday to talk about climate change.
The meeting will follow Mr Rudd's attendance at the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting in Trinidad this weekend.
"I've been invited by the President of the United States to meet with him in Washington next Monday," the prime minister told parliament.
He said they would discuss the agenda for the UN climate summit in Copenhagen, adding the meeting was a positive step in the fight against climate change.
He ridiculed the opposition for jeering the announcement.
"I would have thought it was a good thing for the Australian-US relationship," Mr Rudd said.
"I would have thought this was a good thing for our combined action on climate change."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/rudd-to-meet-obama/story-e6frf7kf-1225804225368
The duration period for carbon dioxide molecules in the
atmosphere is somewhere between 100 and 500
years. Obviously, not all carbon dioxide molecules
will stay in the atmosphere that long, but on average
the duration may be around 200-300 years. Some scientists
believe that it could be longer than that, others
believe that the duration is shorter. Presently,
there is some uncertainty in those figures.
The most important thing concerning CO2 duration is that
its large concentration plus its long duration in the
atmosphere make it the most important greenhouse gas
after water vapor.
Some other greenhouse gases also have similarly long
durations in the atmosphere, but their concentrations
are much smaller than CO2 and thus they are less
important (but not unimportant) contributors to
warming.
Although water vapor is the most effective greenhouse
gas, it has a duration in the atmosphere of only 3-7 days
and its concentration will likely only increase if atmospheric
temperature increases. This is a double whammy that
most climate scientists are concerned about. If increasing
concentrations of CO2 result in warmer atmospheric
temperatures, that will likely result in higher
water vapor concentrations in the atmosphere and thus
further enhance atmospheric warming, assuming that the
increased water vapor concentration does not lead to
increased cloudiness (which may reduce warming in
some regions of the world, but increase warming in
others).
David R. Cook
Meteorologist
Climate Research Section
Environmental Science Division
Argonne National Laboratory
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Reducing greenhouse gases may not be enough to slow global warming
November 12th, 2009 - 12:51 pm ICT by ANI -
Washington, November 12 (ANI):
A new research by a scientist at the Georgia Institute of Technology has determined that reducing greenhouse gases may not be enough to slow down global warming, and policymakers would need to address the influence of global deforestation and urbanization on climate change.
The scientist in question is Georgia Tech City and Regional Planning Professor Brian Stone.
According to Stone, as the international community meets in Copenhagen in December to develop a new framework for responding to climate change, policymakers need to give serious consideration to broadening the range of management strategies beyond greenhouse gas reductions alone.
“Across the U.S. as a whole, approximately 50 percent of the warming that has occurred since 1950 is due to land use changes (usually in the form of clearing forest for crops or cities) rather than to the emission of greenhouse gases,” said Stone.
“Most large U.S. cities, including Atlanta, are warming at more than twice the rate of the planet as a whole - a rate that is mostly attributable to land use change,” he said.
“As a result, emissions reduction programs - like the cap and trade program under consideration by the U.S. Congress - may not sufficiently slow climate change in large cities where most people live and where land use change is the dominant driver of warming,” he added.
According to Stone’s research, slowing the rate of forest loss around the world, and regenerating forests where lost, could significantly slow the pace of global warming.
“Treaty negotiators should formally recognize land use change as a key driver of warming,” said Stone.
“The role of land use in global warming is the most important climate-related story that has not been widely covered in the media,” he added.
Stone recommends slowing what he terms the “green loss effect” through the planting of millions of trees in urbanized areas and through the protection and regeneration of global forests outside of urbanized regions.
Forested areas provide the combined benefits of directly cooling the atmosphere and of absorbing greenhouse gases, leading to additional cooling.
Green architecture in cities, including green roofs and more highly reflective construction materials, would further contribute to a slowing of warming rates.
Stone envisions local and state governments taking the lead in addressing the land use drivers of climate change, while the federal government takes the lead in implementing carbon reduction initiatives, like cap and trade programs.
“As we look to address the climate change issue from a land use perspective, there is a huge opportunity for local and state governments,” he said. (ANI)
By 2050 CO2 emissions must fall by half, yet energy demand is likely to double. A combination of measures is needed, including a price for CO2. Shell is involved in a number of carbon capture and storage demonstration projects. And our coal gasification technology produces less CO2 than conventional coal burning.
http://www.shell.com/home/content/responsible_energy/nef/co2/
Bottom line is, even if Global Warming is not as bad, as the scientists say it is. Which i think it is. We need to clean the air anyway, it causes to many different health problems, and deaths. And i personally think it will get much worst, with the other countries growing like crazy. China, India, Brazil, and Africa, just to mention a few, that are becoming more industrialized every day.
Dubai debt `standstill' raises alarms
By BARBARA SURK, Associated Press Writer
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates – Just a year after the global downturn derailed Dubai's explosive growth, the city is now so swamped in debt that it's asking for a six-month reprieve on paying its bills — causing a drop on world markets Thursday and raising questions about Dubai's reputation as a magnet for international investment.
The fallout came swiftly after Wednesday statement that Dubai's main development engine, Dubai World, would ask creditors for a "standstill" on paying back its $60 billion debt until at least May. The company's real estate arm, Nakheel — whose projects include the palm-shaped island in the Gulf — shoulders the bulk of money due to banks, investment houses and outside development contractors.
In total, the state-backed networks nicknamed Dubai Inc. are $80 billion in the red and the emirate needed a bailout earlier this year from its oil-rich neighbor Abu Dhabi, the capital of the United Arab Emirates...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091126/ap_on_bi_ge/ml_dubai_desperate_times
Remember when Bush wanted to sell our ports to these deadbeats?
Dubai World would have been using our ports as collateral to hold off their creditors and our Treasury would never have seen the money for the buyout.
Just imagine what else the Republicans would have cooked up with their Arab friends if McCain/Palin had taken over for Spunky.
Let us stroll down memory lane one more time for old time sakes...
http://www.nationalcorruptionindex.org/pages/profile.php?profile_id=430
Denmark approves new police powers ahead of CopenhagenControversial legislation gives police sweeping powers of 'pre-emptive' arrest and extends custodial sentences for acts of civil disobedience
Felicity Carus guardian.co.uk, Thursday 26 November 2009 18.14 GMT Article history
AVAAZ activists during the Meeting on Climate Change in Barcelona, earlier this month. Photograph: Toni Albir/EPA
The Danish parliament today passed legislation which will give police sweeping powers of "pre-emptive" arrest and extend custodial sentences for acts of civil disobedience. The "deeply worrying" law comes ahead of the UN climate talks which start on 7 December and are expected to attract thousands of activists from next week.
Under the new powers, Danish police will be able to detain people for up to 12 hours whom they suspect might break the law in the near future. Protesters could also be jailed for 40 days under the hurriedly drafted legislation dubbed by activists as the "turmoil and riot" law. The law was first announced on 18 October.
The Danish ministry of justice said that the new powers of "pre-emptive" detention would increase from 6 to 12 hours and apply to international activists. If protesters are charged with hindering the police, the penalty will increase from a fine to 40 days in prison. Protesters can also be fined an increased amount of 5,000 krona (671 Euros) for breach of the peace, disorderly behaviour and remaining after the police have broken up a demonstration.
The Danish police also separately issued a statement in August (pdf) applying new rules and regulations for protests at the climate conference, warning that "gatherings that may disturb the public order must not take place".
Earlier this month, the Guardian published a letter by environmental activists that described the new law as "deeply worrying" and called for the Danish government to uphold their right to legitimate protest.
Tannie Nyboe, a spokewoman from campaigning group Climate Justice Action in Denmark, said the new law was designed to control civil disobedience during the summit. "These laws are a big restraint in people's freedom of speech and it will increase the police repression for anyone coming to Copenhagen to protest. Denmark normally boasts of how open and democratic a country we are. With this law we can't boast about this anymore.
"It will increase the repression of any protester or activist coming to Copenhagen. This law creates an image of anyone concerned about climate change being a criminal, which will of course also influence the general treatment of any activist who comes into contact with the police or other authorities."
A Danish justice ministry confirmed that the laws had been passed today and would come into effect before the climate conference starts on 7 December.
China announces carbon target for Copenhagen
China has announced its first firm target to cut carbon dioxide emissions, ahead of climate talks in Copenhagen next month
By Malcolm Moore in Shanghai
Published: 5:22PM GMT 26 Nov 2009
China pledged it would cut its carbon intensity by 40 per cent to 45 per cent compared to 2005 levels Photo: REUTERS
Officials announced Wen Jiabao, the prime minister, would personally take the offer to the summit a day after Barack Obama, the American president, pledged to attend.
China pledged it would cut its carbon intensity, the measure of carbon dioxide emissions per unit of GDP, by 40 per cent to 45 per cent compared to 2005 levels.
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Obama will attend Copenhagen climate summit
Civil war risk of climate change "This is a voluntary action taken by the Chinese government based on its own national conditions and is a major contribution to the global effort in tackling climate change," said the State Council, China's equivalent of a ministerial cabinet.
The news was described as a "huge morale booster" by a spokesman for the United Nations Climate Change secretariat.
A deadlock over carbon dioxide emissions targets has developed, with the United States offering only a 17 per cent cut in its emissions, compared with 2005, over the next decade.
That figure, however, only represents a four per cent cut in the amount of carbon dioxide that the US was producing in 1990. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has called for cuts of between 25 per cent and 40 per cent on 1990 levels by 2020.
Beijing is reluctant to commit to a concrete fall in carbon dioxide emissions, arguing that China remains a developing country. The carbon intensity goal means that as the economy continues to grow, overall emissions will continue to rise, but at a lower rate.
"Everyone expected the announcement on carbon intensity," said Greenpeace in a statement. "President Hu Jintao said he would announce a notable carbon intensity target back in September."
"Given the urgency and magnitude of the climate change crisis, China needs stronger measures to tackle climate change," said Ailun Yang, a Greenpeace spokesman.
However, the State Council said the goal was a demanding one, and would involve a range of tax policies and a drive for nuclear and renewable energy.
"Personally I think this number is a bit high for China's present capabilities," said Pan Jiahua, a member of China's negotiating team for Copenhagen.
"Achieving it will require shifting more from old power plants, and also financial subsidies, for example, for power-saving appliances, clean vehicles, and so on."
A British government spokesman said it was “studying the Chinese numbers in detail” to see whether the offer represented a significant step forward from “business-as-usual” over the last 15 years
EVEN THE Communist BELIEVE IN GLOBAL WARMING!
I guess you non believers, actually believe that AL Gore, tell them what to do. You are really small minded.
To read you Republicans comments, Mr. Gore, must have more power then "God"" All Mighty" himself. He sure is a Powerful Man, that controls everything about Global Warming. I don't know but one man with that kind of Power.
And its not Al Gore.
Irish Catholic Church covered up child abuse, report says
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/11/26/ireland.religion.abuse/index.html
The Church is like a government in that it needs to get rid of abuse by having open air discussions in solving the problem.
With the Abu Ghraib abuse it is imperative to get it out in the open, in order to say this is not acceptable behavior and therefore having a standard set down not to cross. It is no so much as putting blame on someone, but to make an example that this will not be tolerated in the future.
The Catholic Church carried the secrets around within itself refusing to fix it because it might create some harm. Well that harm kept escalating into the Catholic Church having to deal with it as a super big problem.
Today politicians are acting like priests in that they are hiding the facts for fear it might hurt the country. So in another war they actions will only repeat or escalate into something bigger like a Holocaust.
Happy Thanksgiving fellow Democrats,I see turd and dufus are here and I'm sure thomass and the rest of the pathetic loser trolls will on as well since they have no family or friends to spent the holiday with,almost makes you feel sorry for the aholes....NOT.
Iran seizes rights lawyer's Nobel Peace medal
TEHRAN, Iran – Iranian authorities have confiscated Nobel Peace laureate Shirin Ebadi's medal, her lawyer and Norway's government said Thursday, in a sign of the increasingly drastic steps they are taking against any dissent.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091126/ap_on_re_mi_ea/shirin_ebadi_nobel_seized
I think this is outrageous to have any government confiscate a Nobel Peace Prize.
WIC is Women Interested in Children. It is a program that supplies milk, eggs, peanut butter, cereal and baby formula to low income parents.
It's a wonderful program to insure children are receiving proteins to maintain good health.
Good evening Dems...I hope you all are having a wonderful Thanksgiving.
I see that Red-Dog has spent the entire day here, spewing his usual hate.
Oh well you got to overlook folks with LEAD IN THE HEAD. That would be DUFUS.
It's a wonderful program to insure children are receiving proteins to maintain good health.
74Esmeralda on November 26, 2009 at 05:04 PM
Jacq, he don't care about children, if he did he would get out of his lazyboy, and go see his kids.
DEMS..
It was not that long ago that my fellow crew members who rode on the caboose of the train, declared that there is no way to do the job without them.
Today Republicans try to defend the for-profit health insurance industry and their profits, employees, executives and stockholders.
It's been years since the caboose has been gone an our rail system is more streamlined and efficient than ever and engineers are underpaid and overworked but still doing journeyman's job.
Imagine an entire for-profit bureaucracy in between me and my VA medical health care system, yes the for-profit health-insurance industry is that unnecessary and to try and defend it, is to try and keep the caboose and the unnecessary people on the train.
If tax breaks and or tax refunds are such a great idea then why doesn't the Republican Party lobby the government to do away with the VA medical health care system and just issue us veterans a healthcare credit card, good at any medical facility in United States.
The VA medical health care system is the face of socialized medicine, the wealthy will always have more options.
Take a look at this asshole. He is accusing the "liberals" of the same thing the republicans have been doing for thiry years, taking away our freedoms. These people really piss me off dissing our military, our government employees and the only people left who give a shit about America and Americans.
This guy is a FUCKING PRICK LIAR.
unemployed,
We don't have jobs because the fucking cheap bastard republicans who bailed out the fucking banks gave all our money to them. Now the banks are pigeonholing the money in their greedy big bank vaults and not lending money to small businesses so they can hire people.
THIS IS THE PROBLEM AND I AM TIRED OF NEOTARDS BLAMING PRESIDENT OBAMA FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA AND TURNING US INTO A NAZI STATE.
I am furious about the crap that bush, cheney and the neotards shoved down to the states. It is called the Real ID Act. The neotards decided that illegal aliens shouldn't fly so they shoved a law through requiring states and territories to issue new drivers licenses which indicate a person is a legal alien. Then the bastards are trying to make the states pay for it. It will cost billions.
Fifteen states are suing the government and 36 are trying to have the Act overturned. They are saying that if the states don't comply, people in all these states will not be able to board a plane without a passport. Talk about taking away our freedoms. How long will it be before we will need a passport to drive to another state or board a train or a bus?
The neotards are acting just like fucking Nazis and we should rise up and tell the federal government (especially the republicans) to go fuck themselves using vaseline peppered with sand.
That asshole cal thomass uses one of the main talking points of the neotards saying that the "liberals" are taking away our rights and freedoms.
We must resist these bastards with every fiber of our bodies. They are trying to provoke a revolution and we should not stand by and let them get away with it.
Mind your own fucking business burdturd. You no longer live in the United States and should have your citizenship rescinded. Then when Germany doesn't let you remain there, you will be a "man" without a country until the day you die.
Evening Dems...
Just loggin out, but got another email subscription saying those hacked emails mean nothing ! this is for Global Warming, in case you have not seen this one:
INTERVIEW-Climate science untarnished by hacked emails-IPCC
* UN climate panel report "in no way" tarnished
* Review process makes bias impossible
By Gerard Wynn
LONDON, Nov 26 (Reuters) - The head of the U.N.'s panel of climate experts rejected accusations of bias on Thursday, saying a "Climategate" row in no way undermined evidence that humans are to blame for global warming.
Climate change sceptics have seized on a series of e-mails written by specialists in the field, accusing them of colluding to suppress data which might have undermined their arguments.
The e-mails, some written as long as 13 years ago, were stolen from a British university by unknown hackers and spread rapidly across the Internet.
But Rajendra Pachauri, who chairs the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), stood by his panel's 2007 findings, called the Fourth Assessment Report (AR4). "This private communication in no way damages the credibility of the AR4 findings," he told Reuters in an email exchange.
This report helped to underpin a global climate response which included this week carbon emissions targets proposed by the United States and China, and won the IPCC a share of the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize.
The e-mails hacked from Britain's University of East Anglia last week showed scientists made snide comments about climate sceptics, and revealed exchanges about how to present the data to make the global warming argument look convincing.
In one e-mail, confirmed by the university as genuine, a scientist jokingly referred to ways of ensuring papers which doubted established climate science did not appear in the AR4.
Pachauri said a laborious selection process, using only articles approved by other scientists, called peer review, and then subsequently approving these by committee had prevented distortion.
"The entire report writing process of the IPCC is subjected to extensive and repeated review by experts as well as governments," he added in a written statement to Reuters.
"There is, therefore, no possibility of exclusion of any contrarian views, if they have been published in established journals or other publications which are peer reviewed."
"This thoroughness and the duration of the process followed in every assessment ensure the elimination of any possibility of omissions or distortions, intentional or accidental."
"It is unfortunate that an illegal act of accessing private email communications between scientists who have been involved as authors in IPCC assessments in the past has led to several questions and concerns," said Pachauri. (Editing by David Stamp) ((gerard.wynn@thomsonreuters.com; +44 207 542 2302; Reuters Messaging: rm://gerard.wynn.reuters.com@reuters.net))
SO THERE IT IS, STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH----DOES NOT UNDERMINE THE CREDIBILITY OF GLOBAL WARMING. SO DON'T EVEN BOTHER READING DRUDGE, COULTER, OR ANY OTHER RIGHT WINGER TRYING TO MAKE THIS INTO SOMETHING IT IS NOT!!
heading out, Dems.
blog you tomorrow.
I remember reading about Naziland and the occupied countries during WWII and how the Nazi soldiers would stop anyone in the streets after curfew and demand their papers. If they couldn't produce them or the soldiers thought they were spies they were sent off to be tortured by the Gestapo and end up in a concentration camp and gassed.
Are we heading in this direction and be sent to cheney's concentration camps in wyoming or texas and tortured and gassed if we talk back?
This Real ID Act appears to be a way for the neotards to be able to arrest illegal aliens. What a bunch of sneaky bastards.
It is supposed to take effect on December 31, 2009. Can you just imagine how many people will be caught flatfooted without a passport and be turned away at the airport? This act alone would bankrupt the airlines. It will be the last straw and they will all go bankrupt. I wouldn't be surprised if the people who are trying to get home or go somewhere didn't rise up and board the plane despite the TSA. We would have riots at the airports and people would be burning their driver licenses. Screw government interference.
I may be in agreement with adding this information to a driver license provided it is done at renewal or original issue. This makes a hell of a lot more sense than what they have done. Eventually all licenses would have this information and the neotards would be happy.
US Markets Bracing for Selloff On Worries About Dubai's Debt US markets are bracing for a shakeup Friday after investors fled risk assets globally on concerns about Dubai's debt rescheduling.
Dems, brace yourselves, tomorrow is going to be the worst day in the stock market, for over a year. Its all over DUBAI'S DEBT.
Stock markets around the world are down big time.
And the US Market futures is down over 200 points as we speak.
Its not going to be pretty tomorrow.
I should of said its not going to be pretty tomorrow, for investors. It might be time to pull some of your holdings back out of the market.
The Dow Jones Futures, is down 205 points right now.
The S&P Futures is down 26 points, right now.
The Nasdaq Futures is down 46 points, right now.
I look for it to get worst over night before the market opens in the morning.
Unless something good happens overnight, to calm the storm.
Fuck lieberman and the jackass on which he rode into washington.
Evening Chassie,
I think the rich man's tax on stocks is a good thing. Why should they get off with paying only 15% while I am paying a full 30% on my 401k which is invested in stocks.
Sock it to them! Of course the yacht owners of america will scream like hell. They won't be able to afford yachts anymore. In fact California didn't charge sales tax on yachts which is unfair as hell for the average joe. The repukes refuse to start charging this sales tax on yachts.
Walk softly but carry a big stick as Teddy Roosevelt used to say. Instead of invading Afghanistan without a plan, cheney should have sent in the B-52's from Diego Garcia like they did in the first gulf war. They carried cruise missiles and fired and they weren't anywhere near Iraq. We should have fitted the cruise missiles with low-yield nuclear weapons and taken out every damn al-quaida training camp in the country. chimp's buddy bin jackin-off wouldn't have gotten away. But then again, maybe that's how cheney and chimp planned it to cover up their mishandling of the vast amount of intelligence they had that al quaida was going to strike New York.
Why are we such pussies yet strut around the world like we are the master race?
If Iran acts up we should do the same to them.
Of course if we ended a war too soon, the military/industrial complex would not get rich at our expense.
trolls would have been calling for Galileo's head back in the day. the data is clear on human caused climate change, as is the agenda of the deniers....who in this case happen to be creationists dreaming of their perfect life in the hereafter while they make themselves as miserable as they can possibly be in this one......gonna be a let down for them if there is no hereafter.....but they there won't be any "them" to get letdown....which must be why they spend so much time in this world being bummers on bummers.
ahhh but anyhow happy thanksgiving to you all.
chicken hawks like cheney, bush, and all republican senators are pussies.
hannity and the rest of the chicken hawk radio jocks are pussies too.
Oh well you got to overlook folks with LEAD IN THE HEAD. That would be DUFUS.
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chassie321 on November 26, 2009 at 05:14 PM
I think the LEAD IS IN HIS BOXCAR BUTT.
Geez, you just told us to definitely not sell any stocks till at least next spring.
94**Frosty
For once your not lying, i did say that.
However conditions change, and i'm not telling anybody to sell everything, i'm just saying it might be time to take a little off the table, for a hedge. Thats all.
Why are you worried about it? You got all that gold and silver. You said you didn't have any stocks didn't you.
Evening Chassie,
I think the rich man's tax on stocks is a good thing. Why should they get off with paying only 15% while I am paying a full 30% on my 401k which is invested in stocks.
John, i really don't like the idea, it will hurt the little man, more then the big man, just like everything else. You have to pay a transaction fee, every time you switch in and out of funds, sell them or buy them. The only benefit i can see to it. IS that it will stop some trading, with not as many transactions taking place. Especially the big time day traders that make 100's a day. It will definitely slow them down.
106chassie321 on November 26, 2009 at 11:18 PM
And i forgot 2 great grand children.
Al Gore has spent his career in public office preaching about two issues. The first — the threat of global warming — earned him a Nobel Peace Prize. The second — the political potential of the Internet — has earned him mostly ridicule. But ever since Barack Obama's election, even Web-savvy Republicans have started to hail Gore, who sits on the board of Apple and serves as a senior adviser to Google, as one of the earliest and most influential prophets of digital democracy. Andrew Rasiej, founder of the bipartisan Personal Democracy Forum, the largest annual gathering of tech-political geeks, calls Gore a "godfather of this emerging political movement."
On a crisp fall day, Gore sits down with Rolling Stone at his home in Nashville, a few minutes south of downtown. Powered by a geothermal system and 33 solar panels, the house is certified as Gold LEED, one of the highest ratings attainable for green design. "It's been a long process, getting all of this done," Gore says proudly. Dressed in jeans and a faded blue shirt, an iPhone vibrating from his left pocket, he seems leaner and more relaxed than he's been in years. On the eve of the publication of his new book, Our Choice: A Plan to Solve the Climate Crisis, Gore reflects on both the evolution of the Internet and the survival of the planet.
"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegut.
steve urkel, I do not envy. you twist everyones post to your liking.
REPORT: At Least 40 GOP Lawmakers Fail A Principle Of The ‘Purity Test’
Yesterday, Republican National Committee member Jim Bopp unveiled a resolution to deny funding of candidates who do not uphold right-wing conservative values. The resolution, termed a “purity test,” is being touted as a mechanism for actually avoiding the party schism that occurred in the NY-23 special election, when the Republican Party nominated a moderate who violated several of the resolution dictates.
Yesterday it was almost 60 degrees...right here and now, it's snowing!
keep defending your she beast, steve urkle. she cares nothing about you or your ilk. only of herself. very, very shallow. now run along for your little nap. fall on your crusty old bed sheets or saggy couch. you can get back up in a few hours as a sock puppet or your own loonatic self. (well, all your sock puppets are loony too)
SoS Clinton didn't quit, she accepted another position that is beneficial to all Americans, not just those in NY state.
she beast is roaming the USA on other peoples dime to help pay for the legal fees she has mounted against her. you should send her a gold bar or two to show your appreciation of her efforts.
I don't know if it's warming or cooling, I just know that it's not normal. my annual plants are still growing and blooming, my bushes are starting to bud again, and rain fall we get is tinted orange.
I live in the country where the air is fresh, and work in the big city where the air is stale and polluted. I know the difference.
What I do know is, that people are supposed to take care of the Earth and those that live in it.
steve, go to bed. you always want to "win" an argument when there isn't an argument.
I'm going to go chat with friends on fb and look up news, then I'll prep the food for this afternoons feast. Maybe by the time I finish you will have gone to take your non peaceful rest.
HERE IT IS, DEMS. THIS WAS NOTHING BUT AN ATTEMPT AT A SMEAR CAMPAIGN AGAINST GLOBAL WARMING RIGHT BEFORE THE COPENHAGEN MEETINGS.
DO NOT GIVE ANY CREDANCE TO ANY OF THE RIGHT WING PROPOGANDA TRYING TO MAKE IT INTO SOMETHING IT WAS NOT.
Hacked climate emails called a "smear campaign"
SolveClimate) Three leading scientists who on Tuesday released a report documenting the accelerating pace of climate change said the scandal that erupted last week over hacked emails from climate scientists is nothing more than a "smear campaign" aimed at sabotaging December climate talks in Copenhagen.
"We're facing an effort by special interests who are trying to confuse the public," said Richard Somerville, Distinguished Professor Emeritus at Scripps Institution of Oceanography and a lead author of the UN IPCC Fourth Assessment Report.
Dissenters see action to slow global warming as "a threat," he said.
The comments were made in a conference call for reporters.
The scientists—Somerville, Michael Mann of Penn State and Eric Steig of University of Washington—were supposed to be discussing their new report, the Copenhagen Diagnosis, a dismal update of the UN IPCC's 2007 climate data by 26 scientists from eight nations.
Instead they spent much of the time diffusing the hacker controversy, known in the media as "Climate Gate."
The scandal began on November 20, when an unknown hacker stole at least 169 megabytes of emails from computers at the prominent Climate Research Unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia and put them online for the world to see.
CRU is considered one of the world's leading institutions concerned with human-caused global warming. The leaked emails contain private correspondence on climate science dating back to 1996.
Skeptics of global warming say these messages are filled with evidence of manipulated data from lead authors of the UN's highly influential IPCC reports.
U.S. Sen. James Inhofe (R-Oklahoma, pictured here), a climate skeptic, said he would launch an inquiry into UN climate change research in response.
In an interview with the Washington Times radio show, Inhofe explained the investigation would look into "the way cooked the science to make this thing look as if the science was settled, when all the time of course we knew it was not."
CRU Vice-Chancellor of Research Trevor Davies responded in an official statement:
"There is nothing in the stolen material which indicates that peer-reviewed publications by CRU, and others, on the nature of global warming and related climate change are not of the highest-quality of scientific investigation and interpretation."
Michael Mann, co-author of the Copenhagen Diagnosis and lead author of the UN IPCC Third Assessment Report, blamed skeptics for taking the personal emails out of context.
"What they've done is search through stolen personal emails—confidential between colleagues who often speak in a language they understand and is often foreign to the outside world. Suddenly, all these are subject to cherry picking," he said. Continued...
They've turned "something innocent into something nefarious," Mann added.
The vital point being left out, he said, is that "regardless of how cherry-picked," there is "absolutely nothing in any of the emails that calls into the question the deep level of consensus of climate change."
This is a "smear campaign to distract the public," said Mann. "Those opposed to climate action, simply don't have the science on their side," he added.
Professor Davies called the stolen data "the latest example of a sustained and, in some instances, a vexatious campaign" designed "to distract from reasoned debate" about urgent action governments must take to reverse climate change.
According to Somerville, the comments in the emails "have nothing to do with the scientific case" for climate change.
It is "desperate" to launch this right before Copenhagen, Eric Steig, co-author of the Copenhagen Diagnosis, said on the call.
Sen. Inhofe, meanwhile, lauded the timing of the incident.
"The interesting part of this is it's happening right before Copenhagen. And, so, the timing couldn't be better. Whoever is on the ball in Great Britain, their timing was good," he said.
Science Can't Silence Skeptics, Still
The fallout from the scandal is putting some of the world's leading climate scientists on the defensive and underlining the influence of skeptics, even as the case for human-caused warming gets stronger.
According to the Copenhagen Diagnosis report, climate change has rapidly accelerated beyond all previous predictions and humans are to blame.
The findings are a synthesis of 200 peer-reviewed papers that continued to pour in from all over the world after the UN IPCC issued its 2007 analysis. Somerville described the report as an "authoritative assessment" of the newest climate change data.
The results reveal that global warming emissions in 2008 were nearly 40 percent higher than those in 1990. Further, sea level rise is 80 percent above past IPCC predictions.
If 2 degree Celsius warming is to be avoided—the point at which catastrophic damage is predicted to occur—fossil fuel emissions must peak between 2015 and 2020, "and then decline rapidly," the authors warn.
"There's an urgency to this that is not politically or ideological driven," said Somerville. This is "objective scientific reality," he added, and we're "running out of time," to stop the problem.
In a statement released on Tuesday, three of the UK's leading science organizations—the Met Office, the Natural Environment Research Council and the Royal Society—issued an unusually strong statement in advance of Copenhagen. They wrote:
The scientific evidence which underpins calls for action at Copenhagen is very strong. Without co-ordinated international action on greenhouse gas emissions, the impacts on climate and civilization could be severe.
INTERVIEW-Climate science untarnished by hacked emails-IPCC
UN climate panel report "in no way" tarnished
* Review process makes bias impossible
By Gerard Wynn
LONDON, Nov 26 (Reuters) - The head of the U.N.'s panel of climate experts rejected accusations of bias on Thursday, saying a "Climategate" row in no way undermined evidence that humans are to blame for global warming.
Climate change sceptics have seized on a series of e-mails written by specialists in the field, accusing them of colluding to suppress data which might have undermined their arguments.
The e-mails, some written as long as 13 years ago, were stolen from a British university by unknown hackers and spread rapidly across the Internet.
But Rajendra Pachauri, who chairs the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), stood by his panel's 2007 findings, called the Fourth Assessment Report (AR4). "This private communication in no way damages the credibility of the AR4 findings," he told Reuters in an email exchange.
This report helped to underpin a global climate response which included this week carbon emissions targets proposed by the United States and China, and won the IPCC a share of the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize.
The e-mails hacked from Britain's University of East Anglia last week showed scientists made snide comments about climate sceptics, and revealed exchanges about how to present the data to make the global warming argument look convincing.
"The entire report writing process of the IPCC is subjected to extensive and repeated review by experts as well as governments," he added in a written statement to Reuters.
"There is, therefore, no possibility of exclusion of any contrarian views, if they have been published in established journals or other publications which are peer reviewed."
"This thoroughness and the duration of the process followed in every assessment ensure the elimination of any possibility of omissions or distortions, intentional or accidental."
good morning, bold. enjoy arguing with the trools. they have been waiting for you.
steve urkle even slept during the night so he could be bright eyed and bushy tailed during daylight hours.
they remind me of my girls dad...fight morning, noon and night over meaningless matters, even wake up in the middle of the night to argue.
no wonder he's all alone and so are they.
something to be thankful for;
Lobbyists pushed off advisory panels
White House initiative to limit influence could affect thousands
By Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, November 27, 2009
Hundreds, if not thousands, of lobbyists are likely to be ejected from federal advisory panels as part of a little-noticed initiative by the Obama administration to curb K Street's influence in Washington, according to White House officials and lobbying experts.
The new policy -- issued with little fanfare this fall by the White House ethics counsel -- may turn out to be the most far-reaching lobbying rule change so far from President Obama, who also has sought to restrict the ability of lobbyists to get jobs in his administration and to negotiate over stimulus contracts.
The initiative is aimed at a system of advisory committees so vast that federal officials don't have exact numbers for its size; the most recent estimates tally nearly 1,000 panels with total membership exceeding 60,000 people.
Under the policy, which is being phased in over the coming months, none of the more than 13,000 lobbyists in Washington would be able to hold seats on the committees, which advise agencies on trade rules, troop levels, environmental regulations, consumer protections and thousands of other government policies.
"Some folks have developed a comfortable Beltway perch sitting on these boards while at the same time working as lobbyists to influence the government," said White House ethics counsel Norm Eisen, who disclosed the policy in a September blog posting on the White House Web site. "That is just the kind of special interest access that the president objects to."...
"Teach us to number our days aright, that we may gain a heart of wisdom"
Psalm 90:12
Well, Stevieboy, let's see you find denial of any of those charges, about your "fine Christian Bimbo". don't take it out on me----that she is a fraud, a Pretend Christian, a fool! You can't defend her---so you attack !
Esme, Stevie has been very annoyed at me, especially from the day I said I OWN HIM! There is almost not a piece of his life I do not know about.
It must have killed him yesterday to have to sit and lurk and pretend he was at dinner with family, when we all know, his parents are dead. His brother Jim would not touch him with a 50 ft. pole. His sister lives in New Mexico, probably next door to Johne. And outside of a daughter, who undoubtedly spent the day with Mom and boyfriend, has NO ONE ! So he sat and bit his fingernails until he could come in and pretend he had had a nice day.
And of course, Dufus, as usual was on here all day long, stopping only when the little wifey poured his meal into the trough for him! He, too, has no one that wants to spend the holidays with him, so the pitiful wretch comes in here, it is all he has ! Pathetic ! But then I knew he would be here.
Poor Dufus----This blog takes the place of his children and his wife. No one wants anything to do with the old retard, so we are all he has.
You have a ball, here as usual, Dufus Danny !
Know what I was most thankful for yesterday-----that I was not married to any of you little pretend men! Gawd, how I pity those of you that did find a sucker ! And I mean it when I ask"What on earth are you doing with a female that would have anything to do with YOU?" What winners they must be!
Had a great day yesterday. Got my Christmas tree and decorations done, cooked my veggies for the dinner, went to my sister's where there were 11 kids running around, and plenty of great food and conversation.
will bbl,
The Post Turtle
http/www.time.com/time/cartoonsoftheweek?xid=newsletter-cartoons-weekly
global frickin warmin is over with the admissions of manipulating the data and excluding dissenting views. The populous never bought it before and they sure as hell ain't gonna now.
If by 'populous', you mean deniars like yourself, because you are so paranoid, you can't stand the thought that smarter people than you say there IS global warming, you are wrong.
You see really intelligent people, people with reasoning powers, understand that the freaken oceans are not 2 degrees warmer than they ever were before, Mountain tops half the size they were ever before, the North and South Pole ice melting and can be seen through, for any other reason than this planet is warming. Now you may not want to admit that co2 is the reason, but there is not a smart person in the world that can deny this planet is WARMING!
Usually on Thanksgiving, we take a lot of the leftovers at my sister's and put them in the garage to keep cool over night. This year, we were unable to, because the temperature was in the 50's and too warm, PLUS there are still ants and other bugs around. Some of my summer flowers are still in bloom. AND IT IS DECEMBER 1ST IN NEW ENGLAND !
And you know, Stevie---you are so silly with your calling me ugly, etc. You KNOW I have met with just about every Democrat who came in here, or else I am conversing on FaceBook! They all know what I look like. It makes you look so foolish to try and act like you know what I look like from a distorted picture you stole from a private blog. Funny you never mention the other picture of me you also stole. So really-----save your bad breath for Sarah !
We had a guy at yesterday's party, who is a savvy investor, like Chassie is. the subject of Gold came up-----and he said do NOT get taken in by the ads on TV right now, saying you should invest in gold.
He mentioned that the only place you can sell back that gold bricks is to the place you bought them---AND THE FEES PRACTICALLY OUTWEIGH ANY GAIN.
Said because of the raise in value right now----PRODUCTION IN MINES IS AT AN ALL TIME HIGH, AND THE MARKET IS BEING INFUSED WITH MORE AND MORE OF IT, WHICH WILL REDUCE THE VALUE
Said that unlike stocks, etc, that are subject to Capital Gains taxes, GOLD IS TAXED AS ORDINARY INCOME TAX, PLUS A 20% MARKUP.
So, one can sit back and look at the market value climb and think they are making money ON PAPER, while they have no idea what lies ahead when they try and obtain that gain !
So Stevie, if you were really smart, you would cash that in as fast as you can, and leave your daughter something besides an albatross around her neck ! (although it is down right now today along with the other stocks, etc, due to Dubai. Chassie was right)
I see Stevie was posting some heavily edited crap from the Freepers about Al gore facing a massive protest rally and having to "flee" a book signing.
As usual he is full of shit. Gore stayed the whole time and signed all the books, and didn't flee like Sorry Failin did to her bussed in lemmings.
Oh, and that "massive" protest was 2 guys inside the book store and a handful more outside - AND THEY WERE 9-11 TRUTHERS!
Steve Miller reporting WBBM Newsradio 780CHICAGO (WBBM) -- Former Vice President Al Gore drew a crowd of a few hundred yesterday at the State Street Borders store - where he autographed his latest book, "Our Choice: A Plan to Solve the Climate Crisis."
WBBM's Steve Miller was there.
(...)
A couple of protesters were tossed out, and some others gathered outside the store at State and Randolph to sing a protest song."Al Gore will kill you," the song said, "not CO2."
WBBM CBS NEWSRADIO: Gore draws fans, protesters to book signing
Here is the link to the Northwestern U. Journalism School Asssignment Paper (it's not even the official NU Student Paper) that Stevie partially posted from Freeperville. Notice that he or they cut off about 60% of the story.
Protesters disrupt Gore book-signing event
Here is a picture of the "massive crowd" outside:
Why is that ALL Pugs can do is LIE?
If anything even remotely close to what Stevie posted actually happened it would have been covered on the news. ABC is is the SAME BUILDING as that Borders (they are almost next door neighbors), and CBS is a block away.
Good morning, all.
PamB on November 27, 2009 at 09:53 AM
Hi, Pam.
If he really had any money to invest, he'd deposit it into an account at the local tavern...or donate it to a teabagger port-a-potty fund.
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