Concerned Democratic Party Members

Palin answering questions

NJ member — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:53:29 EDT

or maybe not:

here is a clip of her dodging a question in a friendly audience

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ8QDea5Jaw

If you have clips of Palin demonstrating how unprepared she is post them

No Gas

NJ member — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:51:59 EDT

Why is the South East with no gas when other parts of the country are seeing the prices go to their lowest levels in months? If there is a gas shortage it would be felt country wide, and there is ton of gas here!!!

Then again NJ and Maryland have lots of refineries

The Fall of the New Rome

NJ member — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:28:40 EDT

Today is a very bad day, if you read the board that fact is pretty obvious. What you may not realize this is not a crisis, it is much more than that. What is being destroyed here can not be rebuilt, even when the market does recover it will not be the same. Everyone thinks this just happened but that is not the case. This is the collapse of the house of cards we built to hide us from the real truth. Over the last few years maybe 10 we have seen the dramatic destruction of what made our country great. In the late 1930's and for decades after we were a industrial super power, so much so that we were able to manufacture enough material to win a World War. Speaking of WWII besides the manufacturing ability, it is often called the greatest generation ever. Why is that a sense of duty, courage, integrity, and the ability to sacrifice personally for the greater good.

In the 80's into the 90's we let our industrial base deplete, (NAFTA and China Favorite Nation)
We then lost our integrity with Enron and WorldCom, of course compounded by current events.
We our imports of oil at record highs we are more vulunable to countries that hate us, empowering them to attack. Both by funding them and by displaying our weakness in plain site!
With Katrina Bush let the world see us as a third world country as American's walked for days amongst their dead and dying as the country proved feeble.
Now with the collapse of our banking system and wall street we are no longer able to be the beacon of light to the world.

No longer can we say be like us, we have integrity, we have a sense of community, we are the masters of free trade. Perception effects everything, you can not undo this damage. Future generations will not know the America we knew.

Keep you eye on the big picture, people lost their savings today.

The bailout would of cost us 700 billion, we lost 1.2 TRILLION today in the market, unlike the 700 Billion that would of been a loan, that 1.2 TRILLION is just gone, no longer exists!!

Keep an Eye on the Big Picture

NJ member — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:52:12 EDT

I can see everyone is happy with the vote today, a great win for main street? Really? Do you think so? The market is down 700 points right now, that is money evaporating into nothing, Billions of dollars just disappearing into nothing, money American's once had. People with mutual funds in their IRA, 401K funds, and individual investors just lost their shirts, and this may only be the beginning, and its already been a disaster of a summer. Of course people will now begin to hord the money they have. So less money will be donated to charities. If you work in retail, watch out! I hope you do not work in manufactoring, your in real trouble.

I am not saying the bailout was right, but neither is its failure. Lets not be too happy as we watch many of our fellow Americans sink out of the middle class into the unknown, many of them close to retirement or in retirement with little time to recover from this A Bomb of a summer.

It is a sad day, no matter what your view is on the bailout, we all lost today, maybe we never truly had a chance to win even with the bailout

Just a little BS Filter

NJ member — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:08:13 EDT

So McCain and Obama are only Senators so they do not have real executive experience, they do not have the responsibility and pressure of running a huge state like hmmmm Alaska. Never mind that there are more people in NYC then the entire state. This lack of responsibility is what allows them to campaign while still holding office. So answer me this, if being governor of Alaska is so much work that being it for only two years, not in National politics at all, then who is holding down the fort while Palin campaigns?

Could it be that the oil companies?

WOW this board is different

NJ member — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:20:50 EDT

I used to post on the board here a lot, I had to leave a couple months ago, all the stupid arguing was driving me nuts and most of the people that were still arguing on here, for candidates that had already ended their campaigns clearly were not reflecting the views of the party as a whole. After the debate the other night I decided to see how nuts this place would be, what a surprise it was to see really cool stuff on this board again with little to no arguing. I looked up some of the people that were real negative, at least the ones I remembered, only to see their profiles gone. This really seems like a good democratic board now. Lots of new profiles I had not seen before but thats good. A new look and feel too.

The only thing is it does seem like there is a little less activity but thats OK, quality of quantity. I know there is not much to this post but just wanted to note the changes

Bailout Question

NJ member — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:02:17 EDT

So the latest news is they are hoping to have a vote tomorrow or Tuesday. Earlier this weekend the talk was to have it before the foreign markets open tonight. There was some talk of having this down last weekend. When I first heard of the bailout, seeing all the issues on wall street and in the market it made lots of sense to me. But now I have heard it must be done by . . . several times, the time and date came and went and yet the DOW has not been crushed yet. I still guess we need to do something, but is it really as bad as we were led to believe?

How much of this is politics? There is little doubt that we are in a slow down and the next Congress and President will take office in the middle of a recession, but do you think by making such a big deal of it now they are able to say it happened on the other guys watch, being able to deflect blame?

Other Issues that are not in the news but important

NJ member — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:07:10 EDT

The South East is still in a significant drought, Atlanta especially. China besides investing heavily in our economy is emerging as a serious threat to our country. Spying on us close to cold war levels. Let's talk about industrializing our nation again, NAFTA takes a lot of the blame for jobs moving over sees, but I see the phrase "made in China" over and over these days. Many of our tech jobs are moving to India. We have become a Nation of buyers, with lots of service industries helping us buy things. We are living on our accumulated wealth hoping it never runs out. We are now the Nation of Paris Hilton, living on the wealth and efforts of those who came before us. The election will not solve most of this. One person can not solve this no matter who he is. We need to get involved and stop the bleeding.

One plan I like is the Pickens plan, we are sending way to much money on foreign oil. We also need to think about putting some tariffs on goods coming from China, maybe remove some of that favorite nation status we have been giving them.

Of course this will take many years but we need to start now

Sarah Palin

NJ member — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:30:50 EDT

I am not hearing much from her last couple days, even after the debate the McCain camp had a female staffer taking questions instead of her. I think we all know why, or at least one reason why. How much are you willing to bet she is locked in a room some where already in debate prep. That being said, if she loses it is going to reflect that much worse for the ticket. Even republican broadcasters are calling for her to leave the ticket.

This is another demonstration of poor leadership by McCain and the republicans. They should of leaked it was going to be her, the press would of went nuts for her, she would of gotten known. Then picked a real candidate for the VP and let her be a pun dent.

Church's planning to talk Politics tomorrow

NJ member — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:56:46 EDT

What the heck? Separation of church and state mean anything to anyone. If they start preaching for McCain then they should loose their tax exempt status, PAC's are taxable organizations!!

Everyone Know's!!!!

NJ member — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:43:38 EDT

It's time for a change in our countries direction. I was thinking about all of the different departments and parts of our government that is controlled by the executive branch, and I could not think of one Bush did not screw up. McCain, on his own, is proving to follow Bush's model. It's a shame because he was not always this way but it is apparent that you have to be stupid and be willing to oppress our freedoms to win the Republican Nomination. I think the debate last night was a good step for Obama. I was so impressed I had to come back and see what was happening on this board. I was so pleasantly surprised to see the posts and comments on the board recently, so much better then before.

Farewell Tony Snow

NJ member — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:09:06 EDT

Tony Snow died this morning, he was a good man and a true patriot. He was a news anchor at fox and left to take the post at the white house, that is a serious pay cut. Whatever you think of President Bush it should not apply to Tony. Tony was a great communicator and a brilliant man. My thoughts and prayers are with his family.

The last time I saw him on TV he was on RTwBM show on HBO, I was taken back on how smart he was on the show and how well he communicated. Bill was on one of his rants that do not have much fact behind them and Tony handled himself fantastically, I remember thinking Tony seems a lot smarter and believable then Bill. He was just that good at communicating.

He was respected by all and will be missed

The Executive Branch can not solve our problems

NJ member — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:16:00 EDT

Everyone is so hyped up about the election this year, like if Obama does not agree with everything you want the world will come to the end. The real problem is that it will take more then the president to solve our problems, we all need to change our behavior.

Start looking at your electrical bill and make sure you do not run your AC too often, by new appliances, sell your hummer or large SUV. Take the train, car pool. For clothes and other things look at tags try to buy things built in America. Do not buy fruit out of season

If you are not willing to make these changes and many others like it, this is all talk and nothing will change

Lets talk third Party

NJ member — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:23:35 EDT

First of all, a viable third party in this country is not a bad idea. Second it will have nothing to do with this presidential election, anyone who is saying otherwise is just angry and ignorant. If there was going to be a third party before it had a chance of the White House or for the party to have any real power at all, it would have to start with Congress and State Politics. The president only signs bills into Law, Congress controls the purse strings and drafts bills, then votes on them before they can go to the President to be signed into law. A third party candidate in the white house would be absolutely useless since the party would have no base any where else. So anyone is serious about a third party, will talk about its platform and starting to get local and state candidates on ballets. I think that would probably be a good thing. Anyone who talks about million person marches and taking the white house are just angry and lack a clear understanding of politics. Do some research on the UK, its Parliament but you can draw some good conclusions from that model for a third party.

If you are one of these angry people crying for revolution, I suggest you chill and put on a Beatles album.

McCain and the Environment, A Serious Question

NJ member — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 17:49:59 EDT

The other week McCain gave a speech on his Environmental policy. I saw the whole thing and then the talking heads analyze it. It looks to be very green, in some areas even greener then the democratic platform. I need some double checking on my bull shit filter here to make sure I am not missing something.

The policies look similar, differences are as follows:

both want to start a CO2 credit program, but McCain wants to give the credits away for free to get it started.
McCain wants to drill off shore

McCain has this 300 million dollar research prize, which does not sound like a bad idea.

What am I missing here, did McCain just get Greener then us?

Please explain this behavior to me

NJ member — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 17:30:01 EDT

OK, months ago there was lots of arguing on this site, in the public and on the news. The Democratic primaries were full of passion. The arguing got to be a bit much at times, but it was for real reasons, there was a real debate going on. That is all over!!!

So now when I log on to this site and see people arguing over things like PUMA, something that has zero news coverage and is so small and silly I do not get it. I see almost all of the old school folks, some I used to have some serious debates with and the Obama supporters say who cares, for good reason, WHO CARES!?!? yet I continue to see people argue of this and other silly little points. Why?

There are real questions to be asked and real issues to discuss, why is everyone commenting on these silly posts?

I do not get it,

The clintons and Obama's seem to be getting along pretty well, we are up in every poll! The congressional races look good for us as well, so we are arguing why?

State of the Union

NJ member — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 16:21:48 EDT

lets take a look at the different agencies over the last 7 years to see how they have been doing under bush.

CIA: Did not see Sept 11 coming, and the terrible job with Iraq intell.

FBI: Was never able to find out how anthrax was sent through our mail system. Spying by China is at a all time high

Fema: katrina, need I say more?
Army Core of Engineers: katrina need I say more?

FDA: The current deal with contaminated food

CDC: Contaminated Flu shots a few years ago

NASA: Tragic loss of Columbia

department of Justice: How many were fired for no reason?

Department of Energy: Where do I start?

The White House: VP leaked information about a CIA agent.

EPA: does this even still exist?

SEC: The bank crisis

DOT: Has anyone flown recently? Not to mention the 8 lane bridge that collapsed 2 years ago.

I am trying to think of an agency that has done a good job with the current leadership, can not think of one. I have other examples of screw ups but I think I made my point. During the same time the EU and China have become world leaders with strong economies and with the case of the EU very good diplomatic policies.

The EU is in the middle of working out a deal with Iran, where are we on the sideline.

Besides listing some of the things that are issues, the real point is its going to take a long time for us to dig ourselves ourselves out of this whole, maybe 10-15 years. Damage from bad policies is like gaining weight, its adds up or goes on real easy, but it is a pain to undo it.

Here are the most likely realities of our future.

The next 4 years our influence in the world will continue to fall to pre WWI levels
We are probably looking at a decent size depression until we break the oil dependency, this will take at least 4 years and will come at a great cost.
We will pull out from Iraq but the middle east will continue to be a major problem for us and the world, we will be forced to take a back seat and hope the EU can work it out for us.

Now consider what happens if we do not get good leadership?

Sad fact is if we get a leader that looks for the quick fix we will see this pain again in the near future or worse. The best thing we can do now is chin up and take our medicine and get through this.

The Answers to all of our Energy Problems

NJ member — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:16:25 EDT

So I could be off my rocker but I think I have the answer to all of the energy problems in our country. I am curious to see how far off my rocker I am. The key to our energy problems is hydrogen. It can be stored as a liquid or gas, can be burned or used in fuel cells to create electricity. So here is the deal, people have been saying for years that there are areas of this country that has tons of wind potential and solar potential, geo thermal, the list goes on. The problem is these areas are not near where we need the energy and having new very long very high voltage power lines running across the country is just not very attractive. So what I am proposing is build these power plants in the middle of no where and build gas plants right next to them to produce hydrogen. This hydrogen can then be shipped via pipeline or train or truck to other locations. We can have power plants that burn hydrogen instead of oil and coal to produce electricity. I do realize using hydrogen in cars is still a little far off, but it can be used in trains and other large equipment. Then to be used in cars in the years to come. The premise of argument is as follows:

More Oil from Saudi

NJ member — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:36:50 EDT

They are increasing the output of oil, by a pretty good margin. Realizing we were beginning to see how addicted we really are it is time to flood us with more oil to get us back in our energy policy coma. This oil topic is kind of a pet peeve of mine.

What really kills me is Bush and McCain saying drilling in more off shore locations and in the arctic is the answer. The core of this argument is that we have no where to drill. So they are saying we have a fleet of oil drilling rigs sitting idle because they have no where to go. This is not the case, they are all very busy right now. They have been for a long time. If you ask anyone in the oil industry, they will tell you that it will take 7-10 years to get these new wells on line. Of course you have to realize our existing wells would decline in production, that's what they do. If we do nothing, the world demand will continue to increase, so basically we are screwed. In the oil market there really is no such thing as our oil, its a free market so there is only supply and demand. the last two years production was down and demand is up. The booming economies in China and India are a large contributors to this. The only real answer is to move off oil for our portable energy supply.

Why does Michelle Obama get so much crap

NJ member — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:57:26 EDT

I do not get it, why does she get so much flack. I am not sure I have ever seen a spouse get so much flack. Except maybe Hillary but that's a different story, Hillary was and is obviously more politically active