unforgiving society

Responses

limbo — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:46:22 EDT

Yesterday I was on talking and someone mistook my comment and accused me of lying. She read the comment right above hers and thought it was about her. I think we need to step back and look at the answers. Sometimes there are so many that it is moved down the page and we lose track of the questions. I e-mailed that person and settled it, personaly. She was sorry and I understood. All I'm asking is for all of us as adults. We stop and think a minute before we fire off answers. We are here to discuss not blame one another for our views.

Blogging gone bad

limbo — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 18:30:17 EDT

Last night I was blogging with some people. The user TexasDem seemed to bash Obama at every turn. I would rebuttal to show the otherside. Alot of the time he doesn't know his facts. Yet he is very quick to jump if you defend Obama. I totally believe in Obama and his Truth and Patriotism toward our country. We are in a sad state and need to be lifted up. TexasDem spews hate at everyturn. I can Honestly say when he has written something negative about Obama I have written a lie that Hilary has been caught in, a negative toward Hillary. He doesn't want to see it.
But then he said the lady that wrote the post was a terrible mother because of how she felt about Bill. I have been there and it doesn't feel good to have it happen to you. If it happens once shame on him. When it happens several times shame on me. TexasDem says so..it's just sex. That's where he's wrong. It is the most intimate part of a marriage. I am a strong woman because I lifted myself up and moved on. I had two beautiful children and didn't want my daughter to grow up thinking that was exceptable or my son to think it meant nothing, IT DOES. It has become to exceptable in our society, hence TexasDem's remarks. Obviously that man still hasn't learned how to treat a woman. I had to restart in a trailer. It was cute but a mess. I told the landlord I would fix it up if he gave me a good rent. He said okay. For months I pulled out walls and repainted. Fixed windows and decorated the kids rooms. Put in a new toilet and laid down rugs. Putting love into it as women do. Though very small I made the best of it. When my parents came to see the first time before I started the work. My Dad said: Wow kiddo this will be alot of work. My Mom said she'll do it. And you know what, I did. Six months later they came for Christmas my Dad said I am so proud of you, it looks great. I love working with tools and fixing things. And have been there where men have pulled my tools out of my hands, on my machine, at my job, to try and adjust things. I ran the biggest machine in the plant and because I'm a woman it was the cleanest. But then I was told I could only make $7 a/hr. when the men were running smaller ones and making $11 a/hr. I said okay I'm done, and left. I guess what I'm saying is I do know Hillary is a strong woman in some ways. But, strength isn't always in our words but in our actions.
Last night TexasDem said I was stupid and had no brains. Putting up with the slander on Obama is bad enough but when you get personal, it becomes personal. And I fight back. I told him he wasn't doing his homework. And to go to the cornfield and get some brains from the scarecrow. It seems he can dish it out but can't take it. Then he said I was rude and negative. And I said as he was to me. By then it was 4:15 in the morning. I couldn't believe it. I had gotten caught up in the vortex of hate and started spewing back. I logged off and went to bed. I layed there and thought and thought(it didn't help because I had a cup of coffee to late and was hyped up). I looked inside and realized I was negative. I'm not like that. I am always positive, well 96% of the time. And I was rude, it didn't start out that way. We want to defend what is our side. But we don't have to go over board. I think because we are faceless to eachother it is easier to insult, not even knowing the person. I also added in a post I had written and he said: It was cut and paste and it probably wasn't true. I admit I copied and pasted the post, but it was my post from last week, about forgiveness. I am coping and pasting to add now so you can see.
I was about 15 when I found out my grandfather beat my father everyday. He had to hide in the rafters of the barn. When I found out I was so mad at my grandfather for the hurt he caused my father. But he was still my grandfather so I loved him. My father did too, and had 11 children and he broke the chain of abuse. When we were sitting at the table one day he said n... about something and I said dad I don't like that word, please don't say it. Okay I won't I didn't mean to offend it's just what I learned. I disagreed with his words but I dearly loved the man. He lost his arm to a farm accident but continued on and raised 11 with Mom of course. :) I beleive that is the basis of what Obama means with his words. We need to get past the cynism in this country. Obama's father left when he was little, maybe he felt like the pastor was kind of a father figure.

He respects him for all the good he has done but doesn't agree with him on how he spoke. Sometimes it's hard to tell someone you care for the things that bother you. You don't want to disrespect them. But how do we know they didn't talk about it. Does it really matter in the big scheme of things?

And have you listened to the whole sermon, it is true of America we have used violence for to long. And Clintons camp have done work with the Rev. before. Maybe that's why they kept silent on the subject. Obama does understand both sides and I have no doubt he will do our country good. And move past all the abuses that happen in our country. I see an honest, genuine man in Obama and he will have my help til the end. Which I truly believe will be Nov. and we will welcome him as our President.
TexasDem it's okay if you feel differently then I do but don't insult it really isn't nessasary to have a good discussion on the issues. It's like we are so caught up in it we don't step back to look at ourselves. Well I did and I didn't like it. So, I apologize for being rude and negative. I will go to higher ground like Obama wants. And I feel better already.

I saw some pain growing up, but my parents rose above it. And showed us love, compassion, disipline and ambition. When we act negatively it just teaches our children to do the same. From now on I will do my best to be nice to TexasDem and let his words slide over me, because they really don't matter. We need to Chill.
On this Holiday I am sad my parents are no longer here. But I get a vibe from my Mom for Obama. Please read and look into your hearts and minds and try to remove one hateful thought for today. Happy Easter.
Sincerely, Limbo

rising up

limbo — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 01:47:14 EDT

I was about 15 when I found out my grandfather beat my father everyday. He had to hide in the rafters of the barn. When I found out I was so mad at my grandfather for the hurt he caused my father. But he was still my grandfather so I loved him. My father had 11 children and he broke the chain of abuse. When we were sitting at the table one day he said n... about something and I said dad I don't like that word, please don't say it. He looked at me and said you have spunk. Okay I won't I didn't mean to offend it is just what I learned. I disagreed with his words but I dearly loved the man. He lost his arm to a farm accident but continued on and raised 11 with Mom of course. :) I beleive that is the basis of what Obama said. His father left when he was little, maybe he felt like the pastor was a father figure. He respects him for all the good he has done but doesn't agree with him on those words. And have you lsitened to the whole sermon, it is true of America we have used violence for to long. And Clintons camp have done work with the Rev. before. Maybe that's why they kept silent on the subject. Obama does understand both sides and I have no doubt he will do our country good. And move past all the abuses that happen in our country. I see an honest, genuine man in Obama and he will have my help til the end. Which I trully believe will be Nov. and we will welcome hime as President.

rising up

limbo — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:32:57 EDT

I was about 15 when I found out my grandfather beat my father everyday. He had to hide in the rafters of the barn. When I found out I was so mad at my grandfather for the hurt he caused my father. But he was still my grandfather so I loved him. My father had 11 children and he broke the chain of abuse. When we were sitting at the table one day he said n... about something and I said dad I don't like that word, please don't say it. He looked at me and said you have spunk. Okay I won't I didn't mean to offend it is just what I learned. I disagreed with his words but I dearly loved the man. He lost his arm to a farm accident but continued on and raised 11 with Mom of course. :) I beleive that is the basis of what Obama said. His father left when he was little, maybe he felt like the pastor was a father figure. He respects him but doesn't agree with him. Obama does understand both sides and I have no doubt he will do our country good. And move past all the abuses that happen in our country. I see an honest, genuine man in Obama and he will have my help til the end. Which I trully believe will be Nov. and we will welcome hime as President.

Racism is a form of abuse

limbo — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:04:51 EDT

I was about 15 when I found out my grandfather beat my father everyday. He had to hide in the rafters of the barn. When I found out I was so mad at my grandfather for the hurt he caused my father. But he was still my grandfather so I loved him. My father had 11 children and he broke the chain of abuse. When we were sitting at the table one day he said n... about something and I said dad I don't like that word, please don't say it. He looked at me and said you have spunk. Okay I won't I didn't mean to offend it is just what I learned. I disagreed with his words but I dearly loved the man. He lost his arm to a farm accident but continued on and raised 11 with Mom of course. :) I beleive that is the basis of what Obama said. His father left when he was little, maybe he felt like the pastor was a father figure. He respects him but doesn't agree with him. Obama does understand both sides and I have no doubt he will do our country good. And move past all the abuses that happen in our country. I see an honest, genuine man in Obama and he will have my help til the end. Which I trully believe will be Nov. and we will welcome hime as President.

Blogitis

limbo — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:11:57 EDT

I have been enjoying blogging. But recently it has gotten ugly. I have been depressed about how the issues aren't being talked about or how others are. But race, why aren't we past this? It saddens my heart to think my children whom I taught to find the best in people, no matter there sex or skin color still have to deal with this. Then this afternoon I watched Obama's speech on race. It was wonderful, I cried. I am a 45yr. old white woman and have seen change. Both with race and sex. I truly hope everyone can sit back and watch it. In its entirety not just the snippets you see on the news. Keep an open mind and try to understand the roots of the story. I think each generation has made new plantings and shaken the roots of the bad and replanted to grow better more full blossoms. I challenge you to not be touched in some way. I pray we can get past this and merge as a whole toward a more beautiful and caring nation.
I have decided to stop blogging. It takes to much of my time and I get all worked up. We need to chill. So have a good life and prosper.
I still believe in Obama and can't wait to see him become our President in 2008. Sorry I had to get in one more plug before I signed off.

Miss America

limbo — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:02:49 EDT

For many years we have watched our pageant and always like to hear them say they would like world peace. Do we really want to just hear it. No, I can't believe that. We need to find away to overlook peoples differences. Look past color, race and sex. I love being a woman. I also love that my husband respects me and knows my abilities. Do we have disagreements, of course. But we still work it out. Excepting eachother for our strong and weak points. But we both want Obama. Experience isn't always that important. Bill Gates changed the world with Microsoft. A young man helped to start MySpace and is now on Obamas Techno committee. We can't discount the young vote. The country will be theirs before long. Let us hope we can leave them a good one. And in the future maybe Miss America can say we did it, we changed history. Peace begins in our own homes and our own country. I don't think America is ready for a woman President. I think woman have really made great strides in history. And I am proud of that. But, I think America needs to find Peace in its Races. Seperate church and state like the Declaration says. Maybe if we can find some kind of peace in our country then we can be to the point of having woman President. Then maybe just the issues will be discussed instead of race, sex and religion.

Let's face it Obama won Texas and Ohio

limbo — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:52:55 EDT

Why are republicans allowed to cross over? Obama really won in Texas and Ohio. If the republicans hadn't been allowed to cross over, Obama would have won those primaries too. Please don't let dirty politics change the future. Obama will be nomminee. The talk about a dirty preacher is it because the Clintons know dirt when they see it. No he has been a preacher for years but they just try to cause trouble and bring it up now. They know they are losing and can't stand it. They should do a revote in Texas and Ohio. I'm sure there where many hand s that were greased by the Clintons to acheive the win. Republicans should not be allowed to count their vote if they cross over.

Wake up America

limbo — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:41:04 EDT

With all the trash the Clintons have dished out can we sift through it all. I hope so. America let us not forget the past, The Clintons past. So many lies, so many lost documents. And why won't she release her taxes. I want to know before the nomination. I give Obama credit for making it through it all. He is not his preacher, Obama should not pay for his preachers comments. That's like saying Chelsea should pay for her parents tainted past and Spitzers wife and daughters should pay for his bad judgement. Not, let us stand up and bring real change to America. Talk the issues and stop causing trouble for our party Hillary, it makes you even more unattractive.

Miss America

limbo — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:35:28 EDT

Sins of the father

limbo — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:59:56 EDT

I sit here listening to the news and the statements coming from Obama's retired minister. I hope people look at this with open eyes. Maybe he spoke that way because of things that happened to him throughout his life. It doesn't mean Obama feels the same way. Let's face it each generation has become a little less racist. I would hope people will realize this and maybe stop and think about the things we all have had to deal with in our own lifes and how we have reacted. But it doesn't mean we pay for the sins of our fathers. Our children learn from us and take away the things they like and change the things they don't. We are getting better as a nation but have to continue to work together and strive for a better stronger America. I see my children growing and teaching me things all the time. We need to be receptive to change and compromise. I see them have many kinds of friends and they are happy. Learning about eachother. Change is good for us, for our country. It helps us grow. We may have different beliefs or cultures. Ways of praying or not. We are not here to judge but to encourage. If we all closed our eyes color wouldn't matter. We cry the same when we lose a child. Love the same. Want the same things. To be happy and prosper. To teach our children to pull themselves up and continue on for all mans sake. Talk to older people and help them to see the past is not the present. Things have changed and will continue to change. There really is no stopping that. But sitting back and letting things stay the same will make us become stagnent. If we allow hatred to grow will we be able to stop it? Look at your neighbor not with hate but understanding. We really can't change the world but we can start in own our homes,neighborhoods and states. Then and only then will we be able to try to find some peace in the world.