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from speakout.com
Everything he's 'voted for or against' matches Clinton.
Also see comparision from
http://www.thetaskforce.org/downloads/reports/reports/final_candidates_positions.pdf Read More »
would love any other links or information anyone has on Clinton. Read More »
Love any other links or articles that you know of. Read More »
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Can anyone show me where Obama has talked about LGBT issues recently?
I have his website info
http://pride.barackobama.com/page/content/lgbthome
But I'm looking for more current info... Read More »
A recent discussion I had on this topic is below... Read More »
My reasons aren't the typical "fluffy distractions" that the media and others seem to "lightly" address. It isn't because of Rezko, Michele's "proud to be American" speech, or even the "Rev Wright issue." I have difficulties voting for Obama because of the highly conflicting message his campaign has effectively delivered.
Obama is the candidate for Change. Obama gives Hope back to America. Obama believes in changing politics and doing things differently. Read More »
blah blah blah
Here's this week's announcement
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23918341/
This one was interesting to me because it addresses Ohio and Florida as two key states in the General election. In the end I think Michigan will be the key state this time around, but I don't disagree that these two states are critical for a democratic win in November.
So I ask... What do you think of this article? does it change your mind about which candidate you support? why or why not?
Personally, it made me think. It doesn't change my mind about who I support but it did make me look a little closer as to why I support them. Read More »
Moving onto the topic of Abortion:
This is a difficult topic to quantify so I narrowed it down to introduced bills in the Senate only, that were pro choice or pro prevention as those are what Obama said he supported in 2004 and what Clinton has said she has always supported. All information is gathered from the Thomas Library Website and referring ONLY to Senate bills/resolutions starting Jan 1 2005 to keep things "fair."
The following are both Obama and Clinton:
s.1173 Freedom of Choice ActTitle: A bill to protect, consistent with Roe v. Wade, a woman's freedom to choose to bear a child or terminate a pregnancy, and for other purposes.
introduced on 4-19-07
Clinton was a cosponsor from the beginning.
Obama became one on 5-11-07.
it appears to still be under review.
s.2916 Unintended Pregnancy Reduction Act of 2006Title: A bill to amend title XIX of the Social Security Act to expand access to contraceptive services for women and men under the Medicaid program, help low income women and couples prevent unintended pregnancies and reduce abortion, and for other purposes.introduced by Clinton 5-19-06 it has 12 cosponsors.
Obama IS one of them from the beginning.
(I think this became s.1075, which Obama does NOT cosponsor.)
s.20 Prevention First ActTitle: A bill to expand access to preventive health care services that help reduce unintended pregnancy, reduce the number of abortions, and improve access to women's health care.
Introduced 1-24-05
Clinton cosponsored from the beginning
Obama cosponsored as of 2-8-05
Became s.21
Title: A bill to expand access to preventive health care services that help reduce unintended pregnancy, reduce abortions, and improve access to women's health care.Both Clinton and Obama cosponsored since 1-4-07 s.res.162Calls on Congress, on the 40th anniversary of Griswold v. Connecticut in which the Supreme Court held that married people have a constitutional right to use contraceptives, to take steps to ensure that all women have universal access to affordable contraception.
introduced 6-7-05
cosponsored by Obama and Clinton from the beginning.
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The following are just Clinton:
s.1264 Compassionate Assistance for Rape Emergencies ActTitle: A bill to provide for the provision by hospitals of emergency contraceptives to women, and post-exposure prophylaxis for sexually transmitted disease to individuals, who are survivors of sexual assault
Introduced on 6-16-05
Clinton was a cosponsor from the beginning (there are 11 co sponsors)
Obama is NOT one.
Became s.1240 I believe…
Title: A bill to provide for the provision by hospitals receiving Federal funds through the Medicare program or Medicaid program of emergency contraceptives to women who are survivors of sexual assault.Clinton introduced on 4-26-07Obama is not a co-sponsorThere are 7 co sponsors at this time s.res.485Title: A resolution to express the sense of the Senate concerning the value of family planning for American women.
Calls for Congress to: (1) help women, regardless of income, avoid unintended pregnancy and abortion through access to affordable contraception; and (2) support programs and policies that make it easier for women to obtain contraceptives.
introduced by Clinton on 5-22-06.
It is co-sponsored by 17 other senate members and is still under review.
Obama is NOT a co-sponsor.
s.1075 Unintended Pregnancy Reduction ActTitle: A bill to amend title XIX of the Social Security Act to expand access to contraceptive services for women and men under the Medicaid program, help low income women and couples prevent unintended pregnancies and reduce abortion, and for other purposes.
introduced by Clinton 3-29-07 to prevent unwanted pregnancy and abortion.
It is cosponsored by 8 other senate members and is still under review.
Obama is NOT a cosponsor.
S.2108 Emergency Contraception Education Act of 2007Title: A bill to establish a public education and awareness program relating to emergency contraception.
Introduced 9-27-07
Clinton is a cosponsor from the beginning
Obama is NOT a cosponsor
s.844 Family Planning Services ActTitle: A bill to expand access to preventive health care services that help reduce unintended pregnancy, reduce the number of abortions, and improve access to women's health care.
introduced by Clinton 4-19-05 with 2 cosponsors.
Obama is NOT one of them.
It is related and linked to s.20
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Obama has not introduced anything of his own to support pro-choice.
http://www.health08.org/sidebyside_results.cfm?c=5&c=11&c=16
Campaigning for the Illinois Senate seat in 2003 and 2004, Obama scolded Bush for invading Iraq and vowed he would "unequivocally" vote against an additional $87 billion to pay for it. Yet since taking office in January 2005, he has voted for four separate war appropriations, totaling more than $300 billion.
Last June, Obama voted no to Senator John F. Kerry's proposal to remove most combat troops from Iraq by July 2007, warning that an "arbitrary deadline" could "compound" the Bush administration's mistake. And last week, he voted for a Republican-sponsored resolution that stated the Senate would not cut off funding for troops in Iraq.
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John Cabral, a member of the Oak Park Coalition for Truth and Justice, an anti war group in suburban Chicago, said Obama now seems more concerned with avoiding Republican accusations of harming the troops than ending the war. "It's disappointing that he got swallowed up in the Senate in his two years there," Cabral said. "He didn't do some of the things we would have liked him to. He is worried about his political future."
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As a Senate contender in October 2003, with the Senate on the verge of approving the $87 billion war budget, Obama told the Chicago Sun-Times that approving additional funds "enables the Bush administration to continue on a flawed policy without being accountable to the American people" or to the troops.
A few weeks later, at a Democratic forum outside Chicago, Obama said that he would have "unequivocally" voted against the $87 billion "because, at a certain point, we have to say 'no' to George Bush." As Democrats, "If we keep on getting steamrolled, we are not going to stand a chance," he said.
Nevertheless, Obama had muted some of his strident criticism of the war even before arriving in Washington. In 2004, Obama defended pro war votes by Kerry and Edwards, that year's Democratic presidential ticket; although he thought the invasion was wrong, "there is room for disagreement," he said.
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He has ramped up his criticism of the war since then and is now pushing a bill that sets a goal of withdrawing combat troops from Iraq by the end of March 2008. But unlike Kerry's withdrawal plan, Obama's bill would not set firm deadlines and would allow troops to remain in Iraq if the government meets specific benchmarks.
As last week's vote attests, Obama opposes using Congress's power of the purse to force the war to end. That's a deep disappointment to some liberals, who recall Obama as a Senate candidate speaking forcefully at antiwar rallies.
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Obama, who has consistently said that he would have voted no based on what he knew at the time.
But Obama has often added a caveat: He did not have access to the classified intelligence that members of Congress saw, and he might have voted differently if he had.
the above link lists some very general info, but if you haven't seen it, you should probably give it a look.
I'm confused again.
So when this all started Obama's camp was claiming they got the undecided votes and the liberal republican votes. By saying that he was seen as a person who unified the country and crossed party lines.
hmmmmm
So, coming to the present, Mississippi exit polls show that 13% of the democrats who voted used to be Republicans and that CLINTON was the candidate of choice for that population. By saying that she is seen as a case of the Republicans manipulating the caucus to get the candidate elected that they can beat.
I don't get it. Why is it okay for him to get the Republican vote but it isn't okay for her to get it?
.... sometimes the posts on this site make my head spin....
We fight the fights we can win - Clinton '08
Newsweek had this article:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/120070
It highlights a key thing I have seen here. I know we can get mean - I know we through around loyalties and middle names. And, yeah, I realize we taked about being more civil a couple weeks ago... but this article really accents the main reason to keep things respectable when discussing the issues or trying to get out the vote in states that have yet to hold their primary/caucus.
Thank you for reading
BUT EVERY VOTE SHOULD COUNT!!!!
call me young, call me crazy, but EVERY VOTE SHOULD COUNT!!!
What is the matter with everyone ... I don't care if FL and MI voted for NADER to be president... they are part of "WE THE PEOPLE" and they should have a say just as much as the next guy.
They should get a re-do... and the DNC should help pay for it... 50-50. They should both have a caucus that assigns 49% of the delegates and a primary that assigns 51% of the delegates.
Not counting them is what divides us. If the DNC told me I didn't matter, I'd be far more willing to vote Nader or McCain. Luckily, the DNC likes my state. Why WHY would ANYONE vote for a party that doesn't think their vote counts?
Use some logic people. Treat everyone equally!
Dean and the DNC are being stubborn to teach a lesson and all they are going to do is hurt democracy and alienate thousands and thousands of Americans.
Why is everyone so against allowing MI and FL to count?
Greed (1924)
Metropolis (1926)
Potemkin (1926)
Grand Illusion (1937)
The Rules of the game (1939)
The River (1951)
Bridge on the River Kwai (1957)
Lawrence of Arabia (1962)
To Kill a mocking bird (1962)
2001 (1968)
Doctor Strange love (1964)
The Seventh Seal (1957)
Wild Strawberries (1957)
Fanny and Alexander (1982)
La Strada (1954)
Hamlet (1948)
One Flew Over The Cuckoo's nest (1975)
When The Levees Broke (2006)
Strangers On a Train (1947)
Citizen Kane (1941)
Casabanca (1942)
Gone With The Wind (1939)
Bowling For Columbine (2002)
Cookies Fortune (1993)
The 39 Steps (1935)
If you would like to mention any thing please do.
WY Obama Big
MS Obama Big
PA Clinton small
Guam Split 2-2
IN Obama Big
NC Obama Big
WV Clinton Fair size
KY Clinton Big
OR Obama Fair Size
SD Obama Big
MT Obama Big
I feel Obama is the best choice for his policy positions, his inspirational speaking, his electability, His Judgment, his experience and his debate preformance (I still don't know why the media is saying Clinton is winning). My first look at November is Obama 300 McCain 225 with 13 (Virginia) a complete Tossup.
http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/delegates/index.html
and I a little "detail" caught my eye. Many states haven't actually assigned the delegates yet. They will assign them at the state convention. That means the percentages for Obama and for Clinton could change.
I strongly encourage everyone to stay in touch with their elected delegates in these states. Keep your elected delegate aware of your vote and help make sure they continue to represent the votes of the people.
The last thing anyone would want is their delegate suddenly switching teams and voting for the other candidate, right?
or maybe you've changed your mind, maybe you were a Clinton supporter and now you want Obama... or maybe you were Obama and now you want Clinton...
In a race as close as this one, everything is constantly changing. It is even more important that - if you have an "undecided" delegate, or a delegate for a candidate no longer running, you need to let them know where your vote lies and help them make a decision.
It's not too late - stay in touch with your delegate and get the word out. It's too close to assume anything.
Obama joined the Senate Jan 2005, here is what his site shows for his Iraq stance and what he has done about it.
http://obama.senate.gov/issues/iraq/
Clinton has been there far longer - which is why she was there to vote "incorrectly" in the Fall of 2002. Here is what her site shows about her stance on Iraq and what she has done about it.
http://clinton.senate.gov/issues/nationalsecurity/iraq/
For those of you against WAR in general, I encourage you to look at the two candidates and what they have done for Afghanistan.
I also encourage you to compare what they have done for the families of war fatalities and for the care of those that have returned from their duty abroad.
(no i did not put those links up)
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