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This group does not endorse the nomination of Senator Obama. This group will endorse and support all other democratic candidates in the 2008 election cycle. This group does not endorse any specific course of action with regard to the presidential vote. It is a matter of personal conscience. This group will seek to discuss and promote change in the electoral system of the democratic party. This group will promote the popular vote as the only reliable measure of the expressed will of the people.

Lord I may not be fond of Obama, and definitely think Michelle, needs to check herself, but she already wrecked herself, but come on, all this Obama bashing is sickening. For the Love of GOD, Obama is not the Anti-Christ and he is not weak because he gaved the Clintons respoect.

If anything I respect him a little more because he knows that the Clintons have allot of followers that feel they were disrespected and he wants them to feel at ease and understand that he needs to show compassion for the purpose of party unity. He is not wrong, he's done what he feels is necessary, and on top of that he is sharing his spot light not hogging it. It's his way of saying to stand together we have to share it all together, good and bad.

So for once I wish the CNN/MSNBC/FOX,etc would shut up and give the Clinton's and the Obama's breathing room, to do what needs to get done.
For the first time since I have been on this forum I can truly say thank you to the Obama supporters. I was afraid to even bother coming on, because I figured it was going to be a repeat performance, because of what Penn said, she would be attack on this site, and to my surprise she was not.

I was really impressed, I mean I know that on the CNN and MSNBC blogs they were ripping into her, but allot of that is also caused by people who want to keep the fight in the democratic party alive, because if we stop and talk then potential there is the ability to attempt to resolve our difference, so rarely do I pay those site any mind.

Once again thank you to the Obama supporters for not reading to much into what Penn stated, after all he's still upset that the Clintons moved on and didn't put up a fight after Obama became the party nominee. Bill and Hillary may not be happy, but they are moving forward with their lives and work and have endorsed Obama. Penn is bitter, old and really needs to by a new wig, that one is just so revealling for my taste. So now that he figures he can't beat Obama with the Clintons, he'll simply trash their name as well.

What I took out of this story is that I respect the Honorable Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton for not taking his suggestion, and at a cost to her maintained her integrity. The 3 am bit is one thing, but to say Obama does not have American values because of his upbringing is simply wrong, and I am proud of her for holding to her instincts and saying no to those ads.
I would like to thank you for all you have done, for your eternal vigilance, and you eternal love for this nation and her people. You and your husband are eternal in my mind for all you have done, for all you have reach and always turning around and reach for the rest of us to pull us up with you. Regardless of what happens you are my candidate and you will always represent the best of this nation.

Even when the obamanation and michelle sought to tear you down you responded as a woman of your statue with grace, dignity, and elegance. You are truly a hybrid of Jackie O, Eleanor Roosevelt, The Queen of England and The Queen of Hearts.

I think both Obama and Michelle realize that you and Bill are still a primal force to be reconned with and your supporters regardless who we vote for will not abandon you or Bill simply because they wish us to do so. While this nominee was stolen from you, and your suppose members of your party did not stand by you when you was told "stay in the kitchen" and so on, we stood by you and Bill, and till this day we stand by you and with you and tomorrow we will do the same.

Now while I personal do no like the man because of his behavior to my two communities and to you and while I can not stand his wife for her nastiness, I did hear your words and I will consider voting for him and convincing my friends and family to do the same.

To borrow a word from Disney Onastra - Onwards, Forwards and Upwards. Obama may win the presidency but he will never take our support away from you and Bill.
Reality is I believe that Obama has been disrespectful to the Clintons and they and their supporters have a right to be angry and deserve an apology. Obama has attemtped to dismiss them, the 8 years Bill Clinton servers as president (which revitalized this country) and the achievements of Hillary.

Not for nothing Obama has been around for a minute, his poor record speaks for itself (150 votes present in two years, etc, etc, etc) and then he has the nerve to think he can dismiss Hillary. Like it or not, Hillary did what was asked of her by the state she represented. As a survivor of 911 I wanted to war, plain truth, I was angry so many of my friends died, and I wanted revenge, plain and simple, and she voted as was asked of her. Now the war has not gone well and we asked her to end the war and she said she would. You can all say I never wanted it, but I was there when so many of us screammed for it.

Also the DNP behavior was right down dispresectful and dismissive of the Clintons and that's wrong. Pelosi, Dean, Brazile can all kiss my gritts. How dare they behave in the way they did.

Now that I vented. Obama is many times seen as cold, he's been dismissive of the GLBT community and thinks of many minorities as an afterthought, or I should say it is how he's perceived. It's why so many are on the fence with him. He might be a great public speaker (one of the best I have ever heard), but he has no substance, sorry my opinion.

He needs to stop playing the Rock Star to the kids who are in college, who do not take the time to understand what's happened and be a real catalyst for change and not just words.

I challenge Obama to prove to us all that his words are true, and those who think he does not need the Clintons, you can scream change all you want, but if you don't have the right people to help you with congress and senate you are nothing. Even with a republican senate and congress Bill accomplished allot for the great USA.

Just my thoughts and opinion, here are two great articles

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008085423_clinton01.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26043808/
Girl where are you we need to see you again, forget the primaries and talk to us about what's going on....

Your definitely a friend in my head. How you doing?

Looks like McCain might be close to announcing his running mate. Any thoughts about who he might choose? I think Mitt Romney or Carly Fiorina.

 

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0708/McCain_closes_in_on_VP.html?showall

Queen Rania says cultural dialogue, education and increased opportunities are ways to combat terrorism...One woman's views on how to change the world.

From the CNN.com website via Oprah.com (NOT an Oprah fan)

http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/07/14/o.women.changing.world/index.html

 

Here is a link about Senator Obama's Tuesday interview with CNN's Larry King. Obama addresses the cover of the current issue of The New Yorker magazine.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/15/lkl.obama/index.html

Today is primary day for local, state, and US congressional races. I have been particularly interested in the Demo Senate race...We have to get someone to unseat Saxby Chambliss! Looks like there will be a runoff....Vernon Jones is the guy who mailed fliers that pictured him and Obama "togehter". BTW, he is the current CEO of my county and he sucks!

 http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/2008/07/15/us_senate_democrats_race.html

1. His distance from addressing issues about him. If he is to be president, why is it he does not address things that are considered rumors to clear the air? ie Being Muslim, how he diverts the conversation and says those are old politics makes me ask what are you hiding? What are you not telling us?

2. His distance also has kept me away as a gay man. I attended two gay events for Obama and in both instances he would not approach the members of the gay community unless they were donating money and even then it was a quick shake and gone. What do you think Obama we going to make you gay by standing next to us? Though if you donate a large sum of money he's right there.

3. His Elitist ways, well more so his followers. How they behave and have to belittle everyone else who is not an Obama Nation member, this gets old and annoying fast. Also how it seems that other communities only matter when it comes down to a vote, other then that he forgets us.

4. One major factor is his wife. Her behavior toward Hillary and this country is just wrong.

You might disagree, but these are my opinions. You can discuss them with me to better understand my prespective and hopefully open my eyes, but if you list an Obama style comment that we have become use to seeing on this board from his endearing fans, you will be ignored.

Cynthia Tucker is an editorialist for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, my local paper. This is her take on the recent situation with Jesse Jackson and Senator Obama. The AJC endorsed Obama in the Democratic primary and Tucker is an outspoken Obama supporter as well.

 http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/tucker/stories/2008/07/11/tucked_0713.html

Hillary I would like to Thank You for everything you and Bill have done for this country. I would like to Thank You for the time you and Bill simply stopped in Washington Heights and shock our hands while the Secret Service was in a tail spin trying to protect you guys. I want to Thank You for the opportunity you have given me, my mother, my family, my friends and the great people of the USA. I would like to Thank You for marching in our parades waving our flags showing us you care. Thank You for remembering the Queen of Hearts. Thank You for voicing our voice when we wanted war after being hurt so badly during 9/11 (I won't be one of those people who screamed war and now says no she voted for the war) and Thank You for fighting to bring our troops. Thank You for all the little things you do that we might not be aware of and all the big things that are too numerous to write down.

Thank You for standing up for us and when everyone tried to bring you down, Thank you for rising and not giving up because you did it for us. Let our strength be your shield and sword against the hatered, let our hearts be your light and guide you in the darkness, and let our courage carry you forward and onward.
As I was reading the CNN posting about Hillary's debt, so many Obama people do not want to help Hillary, yet they want us supporters of Hillary to support and help Obama.

This confuses me, because they keep saying you donate to Hillary, well do they know that some of us have donated to Hillary. They say she miss managed her campaign by staying in the race so long, do they realize the same could have happened to Obama? Do the Obama people even fanthom that Obama only won by 120 points (not including the Super Delegates and that's based on how the DNC sat Florida and Michigan)? Do they understand that the DNC (Dean, Pelosi, Brazile) all played roles on how things played out?

I'm not sure why they hate Hillary and the Hillary supporters so much. If we are suppose to be one party, do they even realize that by behaving the way they do it continues to alienate the Hillary supporters?

How do we traverse this and try to unify the party? I don't know but if these attack continue I am 100% sure I won't support or help Obama. At a time where Obama's campaign preaches love, cooperations, unification, understanding, his members preach hate.

They even attack Bill, who did many things for this nation and I am proud to have had him as a president. Regardless of what you think, we have to be greatful that he issued in an economic boom at a time when all looked bleak.

I have been a voting Democrat since 1990, and I have been a Democrat in my heart before 1990, but this is the first election that I feel will destroy this party. Many are starting to lean to the independent party and many of us are dishearted about the party after how the DNC treated Hillary and how the Obama people have behaved after the primaries were over. Now I also do know that some of the fault comes to the Hillary supporters. But if Obama is trying to preach unity, understanding, cooperation, etc, shouldn't his supporters do the same?

I am a proud supporter of the Honorable Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Obama's flipflops have earned him a new nickname "Barack W. Bush". Read the editorial here:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/07/barack_w_bush.html

The GOP will have a field day with all the changes in Obama's positions.

Sameh El-Shahat argues that George W Bush has been the most under-rated president... ever.  Now, I am not familiar with this person or his work, but if he thinks GWB is UNDER-rated he's a damn fool! 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/holycows/2270920/Holy-Cows-George-W-Bush---buffoon-or-great-leader.html

Looks like our friends at the mybarackobama.com website are dealing with dissent there as well. Interesting article from the Chicago Tribune.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-obama-internet_wedjul09,0,1582289.story

I just read this about the FISA bill that gets a vote later today.

 

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat/334933

I just saw this on CNN and thought it very interesting. A US soldier is suing the military regarding his negative treatment since he became an athiest...He doesn't want money just a guarantee of freedom of religion within the military.

 http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/08/atheist.soldier/index.html

 

Jack just mentioned 'moral compass' in his post and it reminded me of this website about your Political Compass. Check your own political compass and compare it to the 2008 Primary candidates (and others). Interesting.

 

http://www.politicalcompass.org/test

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